[nabs-l] NABS List Manners

Sat Sep 6 16:17:01 UTC 2014

Carly,
I'm a political libertarian myself… but I think the post that started this whole mess proof that moderation is, in fact, necessary here. And, at least so far since that time, it seems to have worked reasonably well.
Best,
Kirt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning, Lillie,
> 
> I don't know about you but when I see those types of messages which you described, around the 1st of each month, my hand slides down to the delete key upon seeing that.After all, the message is telling me what I already know.
> I'm sure I'm not the only subscriber who exhibits similar behavior.
> After all, as you say, we are all people who oughta know etiquette. Yes, indeed I guess there are some jack offs who don't, and a plague on all their families!
> No moderation, we don't need it!
> Car
> 
> Mary and all,
> 
>> First, something else to add to the google search front. You not only find
>> posts from this list when doing a google search on any sort of topic, you
>> more specifically find them when you or someone else google your name. Just
>> thought I'd throw that out there because not everyone may know that and that
>> could potentially cause problems if someone like a potential employer were
>> to google you.
>> 
>> As to how we can improve the list, its difficult. I myself do think the list
>> does need some sort of reform, but to restrict some is to restrict all of
>> us, and to implement a complex system of reform would most likely be quite
>> time consuming for those involved, and in my opinion, a little unnecessary.
>> Most of us are old to know what things are and are not appropriate forms of
>> listserve edicate, and in my opinion it is a little ridiculous that we are
>> even having to have this discussion. I am not in any way flaiming you or any
>> member of the NABS board, or any of the members of this list in a specific
>> manner. I am saying this because I think it does need to be said; I am not
>> trying to cause trouble here. This all being said, I do still really do
>> enjoy this list and find it a valuable resource.
>> 
>> I have two suggestions:
>> 
>> 1. Would it be possible for once a month or so, the list guidelines to be
>> sent out? Perhaps this could be done on the first of the month when the
>> other list passwords are sent out or around this time? This may help new
>> members and prevent problems before they start.
>> 
>> 2. Is there any way we could have some sort of form when you sign up for
>> this list. This could be very simple, like name, status, and why you want to
>> join this list. For example, when I would fill out the form, it would be
>> something like
>> Name: Lillie Pennington
>> Status: High School Junior
>> Why I want to join: To learn and gain insite and advice from other blind
>> students and young professionals.
>> 
>> This may help so that not every random person can join this list. I know and
>> respect that we want to be an open forum, but there is such a thing as being
>> too open.
>> 
>> Let me know if you have anymore questions. Sorry if I have offended anyone
>> with this message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary Fernandez
>> via nabs-l
>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:55 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NABS List Manners
>> 
>> Good evening all,
>> I hope everyone's weekend was very enjoyable.
>> I am writing because I am deeply concerned about the manners, or lack
>> thereof, which are more and more frequently being displayed on the list
>> serv. I'll quickly remind you that the list is supposed to be a resource for
>> blind students, of all ages, young professionals, parents and teachers. The
>> list is "public" and "archivable", which means that anything we write on
>> here is easily brought up when someone, anyone, conducts a Google search.
>> When someone inquires about software, or help with anything, which relates
>> to blindness, or has a question and asks that you contact them off line, it
>> does not mean that you can be disrespectful to that person. The list is NOT
>> here for insults to be thrown back and forth, for inappropriate comments, or
>> for general disrespect towards others.
>> So, here is my question, how can we improve communication among list
>> members? Does this list still have value, and if so what are the values and
>> how to we maintain them? Let's have a discussion about issues and solutions.
>> I'm probably opening a can of worms, but I'm truly concerned about the tone
>> of the messages on here, and the frequency with which they have been
>> occurring. Please, be polite and respectful when responding to this message,
>> and if you have strong feelings you do not wish to make public, simply click
>> on my email
>> address: trillian551 at gmail.com and reply to me directly.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Sincerely,
>> Your list moderator,
>> 
>> --
>> Mary Fernandez
>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what
>> you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
>> --
>> Maya Angelou
>> 
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