[nabs-l] nabs-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 25

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Accessible TI84 Calculator (Jordyn Castor)
>   2. BrailleNote Apex Maintenance (Miso Kwak)
>   3. Re: BrailleNote Apex Maintenance (Jorge Paez)
>   4. Re: Bookstore problems (Karl Martin Adam)
>   5. Re: powerpoint question on embedding objects or videos
>      (Ashley Bramlett)
>   6. Re: Accessible TI84 Calculator (Sophie Trist)
>   7. Re: Accessible TI84 Calculator (Miso Kwak)
>   8. Re: Accessible TI84 Calculator (James Hulme)
>   9. Re: Accessible TI84 Calculator (Lillie Pennington)
>  10. Creating E-Mail Mailing Lists that are Accessible to Manage
>      (Zach Mason)
>  11. Re: Accessible TI84 Calculator (Greg Aikens)
>  12. Re: Creating E-Mail Mailing Lists that are Accessible    to
>      Manage (Tyler)
>  13. Re: powerpoint question on embedding objects or videos
>      (Arielle Silverman)
>  14. Re: Bookstore problems (Arielle Silverman)
>  15. Re: Bookstore problems (Elizabeth Mohnke)
>  16. Re: Accessible TI84 Calculator (Jeff Crouch k8tvv)
>  17. early action for colleges (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
>  18. Re: Inclusive Digital Accessibility World (Kevin Chao)
>  19. Re: early action for colleges (Sophie Trist)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:02:40 -0400
> From: Jordyn Castor <jordyn2493 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
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> Hi All,
> 
> I am in need of an accessible TI84+ calculator for my Statistics for Engineers course. Do you have any suggestions other than the one from APH? I think $599 is  a bit pricy. haha Are there any apps for the iPhone that are decent scientific calculators?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jordyn
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:42:37 -0400
> From: Miso Kwak <kwakmiso at aol.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Apex Maintenance
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> Hello all,
> For those of you who use BrailleNote Apex regularly for school and 
> other daily functions, how often do you send your device in for 
> maintenance and/or repair?
> Humanware located in Canada is the only place we can get the service, 
> right?
> When the device is away for maintenance/repair, what is your back-up 
> strategy?
> I have received a BrailleNote Apex in the summer of 2013 from the 
> Department of Rehab in my state. So far it's functioning well but I 
> want to make sure I do my best to maintain it. As school is just 
> starting up for me again I won't be able to send it in any time soon 
> but I am trying to plan it ahead if getting it checked and cleaned is 
> beneficial for the long term use of the device.
> Best,
> Miso Kwak
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:45:30 -0400
> From: Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez1994 at gmail.com>
> To: Miso Kwak <kwakmiso at aol.com>,    National Association of Blind
>    Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Apex Maintenance
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> My backup strategy has usually been to use my laptop.
> LuckallyI had only needed to send mine in 1 or 2 times during high school,
> and at least1 such time was really close to either spring break or
> Winter break, so I just sent it in then and it was returned by the
> time I was back in school.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/23/14, Miso Kwak via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> For those of you who use BrailleNote Apex regularly for school and
>> other daily functions, how often do you send your device in for
>> maintenance and/or repair?
>> Humanware located in Canada is the only place we can get the service,
>> right?
>> When the device is away for maintenance/repair, what is your back-up
>> strategy?
>> I have received a BrailleNote Apex in the summer of 2013 from the
>> Department of Rehab in my state. So far it's functioning well but I
>> want to make sure I do my best to maintain it. As school is just
>> starting up for me again I won't be able to send it in any time soon
>> but I am trying to plan it ahead if getting it checked and cleaned is
>> beneficial for the long term use of the device.
>> Best,
>> Miso Kwak
>> 
>> 
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> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:49:17 -0400
> From: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
> To: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>, National Association
>    of Blind Students mailing list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
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> Hi Kaiti and all,
> 
> I would imagine DSS wouldn't want to give you contact information
> for their students, but I wonder if they would be willing to 
> forward an e-mail to their list of students?  Perhaps you could 
> also just start a group and advertize for it.  At my school 
> student organizations get websites, so when people look for 
> groups to get involved with, it's pretty easy to find them.
> 
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>, National Association
> of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:59:13 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am not required to buy my books on campus, but the scholarship
> I
> have is there so it is silly to not use it.  At least, that was 
> my
> thinking before I realized that these changes were made and it 
> would
> take forever for me to just get the print copies of the books so 
> I
> could exchange my receits for the text files the DS office had 
> done
> well in advance of the school year.  I did end up buying one book 
> from
> Amazon this semester, but looking ahead to next semester and next
> year, I think I should have the right to use my book scholarship
> and
> get my books on-time like everyone else in my class who qualified 
> for
> it.  Especially since I submit my alternative format requests way 
> in
> advance of the start of each semester, it's silly to have the 
> books
> done and stuck in the DS office where they can't be used.
> 
> I'm hoping that the manager will be willing to let me continue 
> paying
> in advance for any print copies which don't come in due to 
> bookstore
> error when the DS office has them ready to be picked up.  I have 
> no
> problem with paying via my scholarship, and look at it this way; 
> if I
> pay for the book and never actually pick up the print copy, 
> that's one
> more they have in their stock so its a win win situation.  I'm 
> just
> shocked that the DS office didn't say something before I did.  I 
> told
> them back in the first and second weeks of school the issues I 
> was
> having, and though the worked wieth me to make sure I was still 
> able
> to do my assignments they didn't actually work towards putting 
> more
> than a bandaid on the problem.
> 
> I've thought about trying to organize a group of students on 
> campus to
> discuss issues like this and to get a little more backing on 
> certain
> things, but the DS office seems pretty tight-lipped when it comes 
> to
> confidentiality.  I really don't know that many other people who 
> go to
> the DS office for accomodations even though I do know they're out
> there, so I'm not quite sure how I'd start such a group.  It's a 
> great
> idea that could be really awesome if carried out though.
> 
> On 9/20/14, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
> Hi Kaiti,
> Any chance you can buy your books, at least some of them, on 
> Amazon
> and email your receipts to the disability office? Or are you 
> required
> to buy books on campus?
> Any books available on Learning Ally or BookShare?
> Arielle
> 
> On 9/20/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
> Kaiti,
> 
> That sounds like a huge mess. I'm sure professors will complain 
> loudly;
> full
> 
> time professors have committee meetings and those working there 
> years
> have
> power; I'm sure they hate the system as much as students.
> 
> What I do is rather than mess with online stuff wich is probably 
> half
> accessible, I go to the bookstore with my schedule and ask a 
> store person
> to
> 
> walk around with me for books; I get used if possible. I pay for 
> them.
> then, the last step I do is the same as you.
> I give a copy of my receit to the disabilities office so they 
> can get me
> alternative format books.
> 
> In your case, I suggest speaking to the manager which you 
> already did.
> For books you did not receive, I can only think of four options. 
> Order
> from
> 
> amazon, barns and noble, or other vendor.
> You  could also borrow a friend's copy and scan relevant 
> sections.
> You might even borrow your professor's copy and do the same.
> The library may have a copy on reserve which you could use.
> Finally, you might ask other students who took the class if you 
> can buy
> their copy at a discount. I know at my schools, students have  
> often
> bought
> 
> used books from other students. Have someone walk around campus 
> with you
> to
> 
> look for used book fliers as well. At least at Marymount where I 
> was,
> those
> 
> were often around bulletin boards.
> 
> 
> In terms of advocacy, maybe you can get a group of students with
> disablities
> 
> to
> speak up about this.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Ashley
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:21 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
> 
> Hi, NABSters,
> 
> I'm having a serious issue with my university's bookstore, and 
> I'm
> wondering if a few of you could weigh in with suggestions as to 
> how I
> might work to change it.
> 
> Until this semester, I could order my textbooks in advance 
> online.
> The site was super accessible, and since it is linked to my 
> schedule
> on our university management site, all I had to do was make sure 
> all
> the books were in my cart and check out.  All the books would be
> packaged up in boxes and ready for pick up when I got to school, 
> and
> since I got an electronic receipt emailed to me when I completed 
> my
> orders online, I could just forward it right away to my 
> disability
> services coordinator, and she would give me most of my books 
> weeks
> before school started.  It was a great system.
> 
> However, the bookstore decided to stop taking online orders.  
> Starting
> with my class, everyone has had the option to take advantage of 
> a book
> scholarship.  This scholarship program is part of a U.S Dept of
> Education grant the school received, and allows for qualifying
> students to receive a 500 ddollar allowance to use on textbooks 
> per
> semester for four years.  This has encouraged more people to buy 
> books
> directly from the university store, where they can essentially 
> get
> them for free or for significantly less, rather than go to 
> Amazon,
> Cheg, or other sources to get their books.  I guess for the 
> first two
> years the book scholarship program was in place everything 
> worked
> great, but now with three classes of students qualifying for 
> books,
> and most of the people wanting to not spend money when they 
> don't have
> to open their wallets, the bookstore decided the demand was too 
> great
> for the man-power they had, so they stopped accepting online 
> orders
> and now have everyone come to the bookstore once they're on 
> campus to
> buy their books.
> 
> This has created several problems for the general campus student
> without any extenuating circumstances or disabilities. E.G, the 
> way
> professors submit adoptions or book orders is different now, so 
> the
> bookstore lost the adoption one of my professors placed, and 
> only
> ordered enough books for one section of his class when he 
> teaches two.
> Another class I'm in doesn't have books yet because for some 
> reason
> the bookstore didn't realize that class would be taught this 
> semester,
> so they didn't replenish their supply of the book.  One person 
> in the
> class is sharing the last copy the store had with everyone else.
> Thank goodness it's a class that meets once a week so everyone 
> can get
> their reading done.  The other book for the class wasn't in 
> either,
> and the professor just decided to loan out her personal copies 
> until
> the bookstore got the ones for the class in.  Because the 
> bookstore
> didn't take online orders, they didn't really have an accurate 
> count
> of how many books they would need to order for each class.  I 
> saw
> plenty of students in the special order line when I was in there
> trying to sort out my stuff, "special order" being for books 
> that
> aren't necessarily rare, but just aren't in any of the bulk 
> orders the
> bookstore thought to place.  Plenty of sighted students have had 
> to
> wait for books to come in, have had to special order things for 
> their
> classes, and professors have needed to postpone assignments when 
> their
> class was textbook-less.  Overall, it's just a less-efficient 
> system
> that isn't working for anyone.
> 
> The problem for me, and other students who get alternative 
> formats, is
> that legally the university can't give out the alternative 
> format copy
> without a receipt.  When I went to special order two of my 
> books, I
> tried to get the employees to give me a receipt for my order.  
> They
> refused, and said that I would get a receipt when I picked the 
> books
> up and paid for them then.  They would not let me pay in 
> advance, even
> though sooner or later I would pay for and get the book in some 
> order
> anyway.
> 
> Today, when I took my third trip to the bookstore to check on 
> another
> book which is still not in, I asked if my special order I had 
> placed 2
> weeks ago had arrived, because I was told I would be notified by 
> phone
> when it came in and it had been a while.  I picked up two other 
> books
> a week ago, and the third book I placed on special order along 
> with
> the other two was not in then.   I didn't get a phone call about 
> those
> other two books even though they had been on the shelf when I 
> checked
> in person, so I just wanted to check again in the store.  This 
> time I
> was a little more insistent with the employees that they figure 
> out
> what was going on with my textbook, because it was my third trip
> there, and I wasn't receiving phone calls I was told I would 
> receive,
> so I wanted to leave there with the book or with knowledge about 
> what
> was going on.  They called the publisher and said that the order 
> was
> automatically canceled by them when they saw I ordered the 
> second
> edition of the book rather than the third, and Oxford Press 
> didn't
> tell the bookstore that they did that.  How I, the student, am
> supposed to know that happened when the second edition is what 
> the
> bookstore site said I should buy is beyond me, and I mentioned 
> to them
> that the other students in my class who don't have their books 
> will
> probably come in wanting new orders as well because midterms are 
> in 2
> weeks, and no one has their stuff yet except for one person.  I 
> then
> tried to get them to somehow give me proof of order or purchase, 
> which
> I had tried to do with some other books before when I special 
> ordered
> them.  I had already been told once that they won't let me pay 
> for the
> books in advance as I mentioned before, but I told them that it 
> is
> pointless for the Disabil8ity office to have these books done 
> and to
> have put all the time into converting them, and for them to not 
> be
> able to give them to me on a technicality that isn't their 
> fault.
> Plus, by week 5 of school, it is ridiculous that people are 
> still
> having isssues getting books, and it really does hold the people 
> with
> alternative formats hostage because we can't just borrow someone
> else's book to get our reading done.  I finally got a manager 
> and
> explained the situation I'm having, and he went with me to a 
> register
> and told the casheer to charge me for the book in advance so I 
> could
> have a receipt to take to the disability office and get my book.
> 
> The textbook manager seemed to understand why this is a problem, 
> and
> apologized for not thinking about it when they changed how 
> things work
> for ordering books, but it is clear that the disability office 
> hasn't
> said anything to the bookstore, and no other student has 
> explained the
> problems related to alternative formats and getting the print 
> copy so
> we can get the alternative copy to the manager.  I know there 
> are
> plenty of students on my campus who use alternative format 
> textbooks,
> but I guess I'm going to have to be the one who is the squeaky 
> wheel.
> The only issue is that I'm not exactly sure what to do next now 
> that
> I've explained what the problem is.  I have the textbook 
> manager's
> name now and know how to get ahold of him directly, but this is 
> a
> bigger issue than just getting my personal books, and I'd like 
> for it
> to be fixed next semester.  Who knows; maybe changes that would 
> make
> it easier for people to order in advance to get alternative 
> formats
> would make the system more like what it was, and therefore 
> easier for
> everybody.
> 
> Thoughts?
> --
> Kaiti
> 
> 
> --
> Kaiti
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:47:12 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] powerpoint question on embedding objects or
>    videos
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> 
> Jimmy,
> Thanks. This answers some of my questions. I?m still wondering if jaws will recognize embedded videos.
> If it does not, how can I access the video? I thought about copying and pasting the URL of the video, but then this requires internet access to click on it and watch. This may or may not happen depending on where I am.
> Another idea can be to download the video and just click on the file separately rather than being in a powerpoint. 
> I don?t know how to download  youtube videos though.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Ashley
> 
> From: James Hulme 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 2:59 AM
> To: Ashley Bramlett ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> Cc: New Jersey Technology Division 
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] powerpoint question on embedding objects or videos
> 
> Hello Ashley Bramlett, 
> 
> 
> I do not use JAWS or any version of JAWS 16 at all but this is an article from Microsoft that might help answer your questions.
> 
> I have attached the link below, if you have any further problems please do not hesitate to e-mail me off list. I have also asked the question to our tech division list so they could provide other feedback as well. I hope thsi helps.
> 
> Providing feedback to Microsoft at teh end of teh article with a click on yes or no is what you have to do after reading the artcile if you want tod o so. 
> 
> Here is the link:
> 
> Microsoft article for PowerPoint help with JAWS or a screen reader
> 
> 
> Jimmy Hulme
> Member of NFB of NJ since 1998
> 908-868-2836 (Mobile)
> jim.hulme at gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  I?d like to enhance my presentation with audio clips, videos from youtube and hyperlinks.
>  I?ve learned how to do some of this from the internet. For creating hyperlinks, it seems easy; it?s a matter of selecting the text you want as a link and clicking on hyperlink in the context menu and then adding what to link to. For videos, I learned that if you click on the shared button in youtube, then embed, plus  a few more steps, you can embed it in your presentation.
> 
>  So, I?ve learned this.
> 
>  Unfortunately, I think it is inaccessible.
> 
>  Will jaws or any screen reader recognize hyperlinks, sound clips, or embedded objects which are videos?
> 
>  If so, how?
> 
>  So far it seems to ignore them as if the hyperlinks and embedded objects are not there. Yet, I see them, so I know I did this correctly. Your hyperlink is a different color if done right. If jaws fails to see them, I cannot click on them with the keyboard.
>  I rarely use the mouse and I?m not sure my eyes will be able to see and track the mouse arrow to click on anything.
> 
>  I sure hope there is a way for hyperlinks to work. I know they do when reading word files, so I just assumed they would work in powerpoint.
> 
>  I use version 2010. Thanks for any help!
> 
>  Ashley
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:22:01 -0500
> From: Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> To: Jordyn Castor <jordyn2493 at gmail.com>,    National Association of
>    Blind Students mailing list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
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> 
> I just got the Orion TI84+ calculator this school year. It is a 
> bit pricey, but it's worth it in my opinion. No other accessible 
> calculator has nearly the array of features of this one. Also, 
> can't you get your school (assuming you're in high school) or voc
> rehab to buy the Orion for you?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jordyn Castor via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:02:40 -0400
> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am in need of an accessible TI84+ calculator for my Statistics 
> for Engineers course. Do you have any suggestions other than the 
> one from APH? I think $599 is  a bit pricy. haha Are there any 
> apps for the iPhone that are decent scientific calculators?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jordyn
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> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:27:56 -0700
> From: Miso Kwak <kwakmiso at aol.com>
> To: Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>,    National Association of
>    Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
> Message-ID: <C5C5F849-BDCE-4F97-AD6A-DFA94BCCE645 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Sophie what does your calculator have four its advanced features?
> I might be purchasing or trying to get my department of rehab consular to purchase me a Calculator.
> Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I just got the Orion TI84+ calculator this school year. It is a bit pricey, but it's worth it in my opinion. No other accessible calculator has nearly the array of features of this one. Also, can't you get your school (assuming you're in high school) or voc
>> rehab to buy the Orion for you?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jordyn Castor via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:02:40 -0400
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I am in need of an accessible TI84+ calculator for my Statistics for Engineers course. Do you have any suggestions other than the one from APH? I think $599 is  a bit pricy. haha Are there any apps for the iPhone that are decent scientific calculators?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jordyn
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:33:08 -0400
> From: James Hulme <jim.hulme at gmail.com>
> To: Miso Kwak <kwakmiso at aol.com>,    National Association of Blind
>    Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
> Message-ID:
>    <CAKMC2e5Wq_d-uy4g=aiAn-GdKsa7AayA_zjVsNvudvPYvpGKPw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> *Hi Miso Kwak, *
> 
> *For your information here are the features for the Orion TI-84 calculator
> from APH. *
> 
> 
> *Features:*
> 
> ? Graph functions and trace points made accessible with speech and audible
> tone.
> ? Listen to entire graph, including special sounds for negative regions and
> axis crossing points.
> ? Scroll the history of calculations and quickly recall and edit
> input/output.
> ? Choose how to view calculations on screen: as decimals or fractions.
> ? Matrix functions and calculations.
> ? Amazing list of scientific, statistical, and financial functions.
> ? Superb synthesized speech (FonixTalk? from SpeechFX?) with choice of
> voices, speech rates, and pitch.
> ? Listen using stereo earphones or built-in stereo speakers.
> ? Full key help mode, which describes all keys, including 2nd and Alpha
> functions, without losing your work position.
> ? Temporary mute mode for teacher/student interaction.
> ? Use the screen reader to review the screen without losing your place.
> ? Full access to all menus, expressions, text, and symbols displayed on the
> screen.
> ? Expandable hardware accessories using USB port.
> ? Connect to your computer via USB cable to print or emboss graphs and
> other work (requires a printer or embosser and a PC).
> ? LCD display and keypad functionality are identical to the standard TI-84
> Plus.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Jimmy Hulme
> 908-868-2836 (Mobile) (New Jersey)
> jim.hulme at gmail.com
> 
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Miso Kwak via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Sophie what does your calculator have four its advanced features?
>> I might be purchasing or trying to get my department of rehab consular to
>> purchase me a Calculator.
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just got the Orion TI84+ calculator this school year. It is a bit
>> pricey, but it's worth it in my opinion. No other accessible calculator has
>> nearly the array of features of this one. Also, can't you get your school
>> (assuming you're in high school) or voc
>>> rehab to buy the Orion for you?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jordyn Castor via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:02:40 -0400
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I am in need of an accessible TI84+ calculator for my Statistics for
>> Engineers course. Do you have any suggestions other than the one from APH?
>> I think $599 is  a bit pricy. haha Are there any apps for the iPhone that
>> are decent scientific calculators?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jordyn
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareade
>>> r%40gmail.com
>>> 
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:50:20 -0400
> From: Lillie Pennington <lilliepennington at fuse.net>
> To: James Hulme <jim.hulme at gmail.com>,    National Association of Blind
>    Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
> Message-ID: <6283B280-F42B-4582-8FA3-CE03FBD920A1 at fuse.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> I have the TI 84 from a pH and think it is a very worthwhile investment.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 3:33 PM, James Hulme via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> *Hi Miso Kwak, *
>> 
>> *For your information here are the features for the Orion TI-84 calculator
>> from APH. *
>> 
>> 
>> *Features:*
>> 
>> ? Graph functions and trace points made accessible with speech and audible
>> tone.
>> ? Listen to entire graph, including special sounds for negative regions and
>> axis crossing points.
>> ? Scroll the history of calculations and quickly recall and edit
>> input/output.
>> ? Choose how to view calculations on screen: as decimals or fractions.
>> ? Matrix functions and calculations.
>> ? Amazing list of scientific, statistical, and financial functions.
>> ? Superb synthesized speech (FonixTalk? from SpeechFX?) with choice of
>> voices, speech rates, and pitch.
>> ? Listen using stereo earphones or built-in stereo speakers.
>> ? Full key help mode, which describes all keys, including 2nd and Alpha
>> functions, without losing your work position.
>> ? Temporary mute mode for teacher/student interaction.
>> ? Use the screen reader to review the screen without losing your place.
>> ? Full access to all menus, expressions, text, and symbols displayed on the
>> screen.
>> ? Expandable hardware accessories using USB port.
>> ? Connect to your computer via USB cable to print or emboss graphs and
>> other work (requires a printer or embosser and a PC).
>> ? LCD display and keypad functionality are identical to the standard TI-84
>> Plus.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Jimmy Hulme
>> 908-868-2836 (Mobile) (New Jersey)
>> jim.hulme at gmail.com
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Miso Kwak via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sophie what does your calculator have four its advanced features?
>>> I might be purchasing or trying to get my department of rehab consular to
>>> purchase me a Calculator.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just got the Orion TI84+ calculator this school year. It is a bit
>>> pricey, but it's worth it in my opinion. No other accessible calculator has
>>> nearly the array of features of this one. Also, can't you get your school
>>> (assuming you're in high school) or voc
>>>> rehab to buy the Orion for you?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Jordyn Castor via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:37:16 -0400
> From: "Zach Mason" <zmason.northwindsfarm at gmail.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Creating E-Mail Mailing Lists that are Accessible to
>    Manage
> Message-ID: <009501cfd787$5284deb0$f78e9c10$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hello: 
> 
> 
> 
> Although I know this is the Student's list, I thought someone would have
> ideas or experience on the subject of this posting. I'm trying to create
> several professional e-mail groups for various organizations I belong too.
> When I first tried making a Google group I was not happy. I know Google has
> made strides towards accessibility in their product line, but they aren't
> convenient solutions for someone with as much love for computers as me. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Zachary Mason
> 
> Assistant Shepherd and Young Stock Manager
> 
> Northwinds Farm
> 
> (603) 922-8377 Work
> 
> (603) 991-6747 Cell
> 
> <mailto:zmason at northwindsfarm@gmail.com> zmason at northwindsfarm@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 806 U.S. Route 3
> 
> North Stratford, NH 03590
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:40:45 -0400
> From: Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com>
> To: Jordyn Castor <jordyn2493 at gmail.com>,    National Association of
>    Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
> Message-ID: <03048C9B-1B4F-4B7B-A1F8-9548168977F9 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> If you are going into an engineering or mathematics field that will use a graphing calculator consistently, I would think this would be a good investment of Voc Rehab money, or your own if you have to. I have seen it demonstrated and really wish I had something like it in high school and college to complete my calculus and advanced math courses. 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Jordyn Castor via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I am in need of an accessible TI84+ calculator for my Statistics for Engineers course. Do you have any suggestions other than the one from APH? I think $599 is  a bit pricy. haha Are there any apps for the iPhone that are decent scientific calculators?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jordyn
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:46:46 -0400
> From: Tyler <programmer651 at comcast.net>
> To: Zach Mason <zmason.northwindsfarm at gmail.com>,    National Association
>    of Blind Students mailing list    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Creating E-Mail Mailing Lists that are
>    Accessible    to    Manage
> Message-ID: <20140923234645.12084.66176.levelstar.mail at everest>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> It's gotta be a freelists.org mailing list for a blind person. Easy forum to get a list 
> going (they have to approve you and make sure the list is appropriate), the list URL will let you log 
> into your list and change settings, and some settings can be changed rather from the request prompt. Easy as pie!
> Tyler Z
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:37:16 -0400, Zach Mason via nabs-l wrote:
> 
> 
>> Hello: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Although I know this is the Student's list, I thought someone would have
>> ideas or experience on the subject of this posting. I'm trying to create
>> several professional e-mail groups for various organizations I belong too.
>> When I first tried making a Google group I was not happy. I know Google has
>> made strides towards accessibility in their product line, but they aren't
>> convenient solutions for someone with as much love for computers as me. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Zachary Mason
>> 
>> Assistant Shepherd and Young Stock Manager
>> 
>> Northwinds Farm
>> 
>> (603) 922-8377 Work
>> 
>> (603) 991-6747 Cell
>> 
>> <mailto:zmason at northwindsfarm@gmail.com> zmason at northwindsfarm@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 806 U.S. Route 3
>> 
>> North Stratford, NH 03590
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:51:00 -0700
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> To: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>,    National Association
>    of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] powerpoint question on embedding objects or
>    videos
> Message-ID:
>    <CALAYQJCLEtspH65YjA3x8uvJF8VTZZRCjSCge-1yyw8G84J9zQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi Ashley,
> When I used videos in my teaching, I had a reader help me download
> them from Youtube as .mp4 media files. I'm not sure if the process for
> doing that is accessible or not. After downloading, I inserted them
> into my slide by selecting media under the insert ribbon. Once the
> video was in, when I viewed the presentation in slide show mode, the
> video would auto-play. I had to click a setting during the insert
> process to make this happen.
> Best,
> Arielle
> 
>> On 9/23/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Jimmy,
>> Thanks. This answers some of my questions. I?m still wondering if jaws will
>> recognize embedded videos.
>> If it does not, how can I access the video? I thought about copying and
>> pasting the URL of the video, but then this requires internet access to
>> click on it and watch. This may or may not happen depending on where I am.
>> Another idea can be to download the video and just click on the file
>> separately rather than being in a powerpoint.
>> I don?t know how to download  youtube videos though.
>> 
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> 
>> Ashley
>> 
>> From: James Hulme
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 2:59 AM
>> To: Ashley Bramlett ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Cc: New Jersey Technology Division
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] powerpoint question on embedding objects or videos
>> 
>> Hello Ashley Bramlett,
>> 
>> 
>> I do not use JAWS or any version of JAWS 16 at all but this is an article
>> from Microsoft that might help answer your questions.
>> 
>> I have attached the link below, if you have any further problems please do
>> not hesitate to e-mail me off list. I have also asked the question to our
>> tech division list so they could provide other feedback as well. I hope thsi
>> helps.
>> 
>> Providing feedback to Microsoft at teh end of teh article with a click on
>> yes or no is what you have to do after reading the artcile if you want tod o
>> so.
>> 
>> Here is the link:
>> 
>> Microsoft article for PowerPoint help with JAWS or a screen reader
>> 
>> 
>> Jimmy Hulme
>> Member of NFB of NJ since 1998
>> 908-868-2836 (Mobile)
>> jim.hulme at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi all,
>> 
>>  I?d like to enhance my presentation with audio clips, videos from youtube
>> and hyperlinks.
>>  I?ve learned how to do some of this from the internet. For creating
>> hyperlinks, it seems easy; it?s a matter of selecting the text you want as a
>> link and clicking on hyperlink in the context menu and then adding what to
>> link to. For videos, I learned that if you click on the shared button in
>> youtube, then embed, plus  a few more steps, you can embed it in your
>> presentation.
>> 
>>  So, I?ve learned this.
>> 
>>  Unfortunately, I think it is inaccessible.
>> 
>>  Will jaws or any screen reader recognize hyperlinks, sound clips, or
>> embedded objects which are videos?
>> 
>>  If so, how?
>> 
>>  So far it seems to ignore them as if the hyperlinks and embedded objects
>> are not there. Yet, I see them, so I know I did this correctly. Your
>> hyperlink is a different color if done right. If jaws fails to see them, I
>> cannot click on them with the keyboard.
>>  I rarely use the mouse and I?m not sure my eyes will be able to see and
>> track the mouse arrow to click on anything.
>> 
>>  I sure hope there is a way for hyperlinks to work. I know they do when
>> reading word files, so I just assumed they would work in powerpoint.
>> 
>>  I use version 2010. Thanks for any help!
>> 
>>  Ashley
>> 
>>  _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:55:35 -0700
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> To: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>,    National Association of
>    Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
> Message-ID:
>    <CALAYQJDm=zvkjSPKH+e-f4T8GyjopApvNtxtiTUq4n21adA9wA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi Kaiti
> If you write up a meeting announcement, somebody at DSS can forward it
> to everybody for you. However, it sounds like this problem is
> irritating for a lot of students, not just those who use alternative
> formats. Why not create a larger group and invite some of your
> classmates to join?
> It's too bad DSS can't come up with an amendment to their policies
> until the bookstore process is straightened out.
> Arielle
> 
>> On 9/23/14, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Kaiti and all,
>> 
>> I would imagine DSS wouldn't want to give you contact information
>> for their students, but I wonder if they would be willing to
>> forward an e-mail to their list of students?  Perhaps you could
>> also just start a group and advertize for it.  At my school
>> student organizations get websites, so when people look for
>> groups to get involved with, it's pretty easy to find them.
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>, National Association
>> of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:59:13 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am not required to buy my books on campus, but the scholarship
>> I
>> have is there so it is silly to not use it.  At least, that was
>> my
>> thinking before I realized that these changes were made and it
>> would
>> take forever for me to just get the print copies of the books so
>> I
>> could exchange my receits for the text files the DS office had
>> done
>> well in advance of the school year.  I did end up buying one book
>> from
>> Amazon this semester, but looking ahead to next semester and next
>> year, I think I should have the right to use my book scholarship
>> and
>> get my books on-time like everyone else in my class who qualified
>> for
>> it.  Especially since I submit my alternative format requests way
>> in
>> advance of the start of each semester, it's silly to have the
>> books
>> done and stuck in the DS office where they can't be used.
>> 
>> I'm hoping that the manager will be willing to let me continue
>> paying
>> in advance for any print copies which don't come in due to
>> bookstore
>> error when the DS office has them ready to be picked up.  I have
>> no
>> problem with paying via my scholarship, and look at it this way;
>> if I
>> pay for the book and never actually pick up the print copy,
>> that's one
>> more they have in their stock so its a win win situation.  I'm
>> just
>> shocked that the DS office didn't say something before I did.  I
>> told
>> them back in the first and second weeks of school the issues I
>> was
>> having, and though the worked wieth me to make sure I was still
>> able
>> to do my assignments they didn't actually work towards putting
>> more
>> than a bandaid on the problem.
>> 
>> I've thought about trying to organize a group of students on
>> campus to
>> discuss issues like this and to get a little more backing on
>> certain
>> things, but the DS office seems pretty tight-lipped when it comes
>> to
>> confidentiality.  I really don't know that many other people who
>> go to
>> the DS office for accomodations even though I do know they're out
>> there, so I'm not quite sure how I'd start such a group.  It's a
>> great
>> idea that could be really awesome if carried out though.
>> 
>> On 9/20/14, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Kaiti,
>> Any chance you can buy your books, at least some of them, on
>> Amazon
>> and email your receipts to the disability office? Or are you
>> required
>> to buy books on campus?
>> Any books available on Learning Ally or BookShare?
>> Arielle
>> 
>> On 9/20/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> Kaiti,
>> 
>> That sounds like a huge mess. I'm sure professors will complain
>> loudly;
>> full
>> 
>> time professors have committee meetings and those working there
>> years
>> have
>> power; I'm sure they hate the system as much as students.
>> 
>> What I do is rather than mess with online stuff wich is probably
>> half
>> accessible, I go to the bookstore with my schedule and ask a
>> store person
>> to
>> 
>> walk around with me for books; I get used if possible. I pay for
>> them.
>> then, the last step I do is the same as you.
>> I give a copy of my receit to the disabilities office so they
>> can get me
>> alternative format books.
>> 
>> In your case, I suggest speaking to the manager which you
>> already did.
>> For books you did not receive, I can only think of four options.
>> Order
>> from
>> 
>> amazon, barns and noble, or other vendor.
>> You  could also borrow a friend's copy and scan relevant
>> sections.
>> You might even borrow your professor's copy and do the same.
>> The library may have a copy on reserve which you could use.
>> Finally, you might ask other students who took the class if you
>> can buy
>> their copy at a discount. I know at my schools, students have
>> often
>> bought
>> 
>> used books from other students. Have someone walk around campus
>> with you
>> to
>> 
>> look for used book fliers as well. At least at Marymount where I
>> was,
>> those
>> 
>> were often around bulletin boards.
>> 
>> 
>> In terms of advocacy, maybe you can get a group of students with
>> disablities
>> 
>> to
>> speak up about this.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> Ashley
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:21 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
>> 
>> Hi, NABSters,
>> 
>> I'm having a serious issue with my university's bookstore, and
>> I'm
>> wondering if a few of you could weigh in with suggestions as to
>> how I
>> might work to change it.
>> 
>> Until this semester, I could order my textbooks in advance
>> online.
>> The site was super accessible, and since it is linked to my
>> schedule
>> on our university management site, all I had to do was make sure
>> all
>> the books were in my cart and check out.  All the books would be
>> packaged up in boxes and ready for pick up when I got to school,
>> and
>> since I got an electronic receipt emailed to me when I completed
>> my
>> orders online, I could just forward it right away to my
>> disability
>> services coordinator, and she would give me most of my books
>> weeks
>> before school started.  It was a great system.
>> 
>> However, the bookstore decided to stop taking online orders.
>> Starting
>> with my class, everyone has had the option to take advantage of
>> a book
>> scholarship.  This scholarship program is part of a U.S Dept of
>> Education grant the school received, and allows for qualifying
>> students to receive a 500 ddollar allowance to use on textbooks
>> per
>> semester for four years.  This has encouraged more people to buy
>> books
>> directly from the university store, where they can essentially
>> get
>> them for free or for significantly less, rather than go to
>> Amazon,
>> Cheg, or other sources to get their books.  I guess for the
>> first two
>> years the book scholarship program was in place everything
>> worked
>> great, but now with three classes of students qualifying for
>> books,
>> and most of the people wanting to not spend money when they
>> don't have
>> to open their wallets, the bookstore decided the demand was too
>> great
>> for the man-power they had, so they stopped accepting online
>> orders
>> and now have everyone come to the bookstore once they're on
>> campus to
>> buy their books.
>> 
>> This has created several problems for the general campus student
>> without any extenuating circumstances or disabilities. E.G, the
>> way
>> professors submit adoptions or book orders is different now, so
>> the
>> bookstore lost the adoption one of my professors placed, and
>> only
>> ordered enough books for one section of his class when he
>> teaches two.
>> Another class I'm in doesn't have books yet because for some
>> reason
>> the bookstore didn't realize that class would be taught this
>> semester,
>> so they didn't replenish their supply of the book.  One person
>> in the
>> class is sharing the last copy the store had with everyone else.
>> Thank goodness it's a class that meets once a week so everyone
>> can get
>> their reading done.  The other book for the class wasn't in
>> either,
>> and the professor just decided to loan out her personal copies
>> until
>> the bookstore got the ones for the class in.  Because the
>> bookstore
>> didn't take online orders, they didn't really have an accurate
>> count
>> of how many books they would need to order for each class.  I
>> saw
>> plenty of students in the special order line when I was in there
>> trying to sort out my stuff, "special order" being for books
>> that
>> aren't necessarily rare, but just aren't in any of the bulk
>> orders the
>> bookstore thought to place.  Plenty of sighted students have had
>> to
>> wait for books to come in, have had to special order things for
>> their
>> classes, and professors have needed to postpone assignments when
>> their
>> class was textbook-less.  Overall, it's just a less-efficient
>> system
>> that isn't working for anyone.
>> 
>> The problem for me, and other students who get alternative
>> formats, is
>> that legally the university can't give out the alternative
>> format copy
>> without a receipt.  When I went to special order two of my
>> books, I
>> tried to get the employees to give me a receipt for my order.
>> They
>> refused, and said that I would get a receipt when I picked the
>> books
>> up and paid for them then.  They would not let me pay in
>> advance, even
>> though sooner or later I would pay for and get the book in some
>> order
>> anyway.
>> 
>> Today, when I took my third trip to the bookstore to check on
>> another
>> book which is still not in, I asked if my special order I had
>> placed 2
>> weeks ago had arrived, because I was told I would be notified by
>> phone
>> when it came in and it had been a while.  I picked up two other
>> books
>> a week ago, and the third book I placed on special order along
>> with
>> the other two was not in then.   I didn't get a phone call about
>> those
>> other two books even though they had been on the shelf when I
>> checked
>> in person, so I just wanted to check again in the store.  This
>> time I
>> was a little more insistent with the employees that they figure
>> out
>> what was going on with my textbook, because it was my third trip
>> there, and I wasn't receiving phone calls I was told I would
>> receive,
>> so I wanted to leave there with the book or with knowledge about
>> what
>> was going on.  They called the publisher and said that the order
>> was
>> automatically canceled by them when they saw I ordered the
>> second
>> edition of the book rather than the third, and Oxford Press
>> didn't
>> tell the bookstore that they did that.  How I, the student, am
>> supposed to know that happened when the second edition is what
>> the
>> bookstore site said I should buy is beyond me, and I mentioned
>> to them
>> that the other students in my class who don't have their books
>> will
>> probably come in wanting new orders as well because midterms are
>> in 2
>> weeks, and no one has their stuff yet except for one person.  I
>> then
>> tried to get them to somehow give me proof of order or purchase,
>> which
>> I had tried to do with some other books before when I special
>> ordered
>> them.  I had already been told once that they won't let me pay
>> for the
>> books in advance as I mentioned before, but I told them that it
>> is
>> pointless for the Disabil8ity office to have these books done
>> and to
>> have put all the time into converting them, and for them to not
>> be
>> able to give them to me on a technicality that isn't their
>> fault.
>> Plus, by week 5 of school, it is ridiculous that people are
>> still
>> having isssues getting books, and it really does hold the people
>> with
>> alternative formats hostage because we can't just borrow someone
>> else's book to get our reading done.  I finally got a manager
>> and
>> explained the situation I'm having, and he went with me to a
>> register
>> and told the casheer to charge me for the book in advance so I
>> could
>> have a receipt to take to the disability office and get my book.
>> 
>> The textbook manager seemed to understand why this is a problem,
>> and
>> apologized for not thinking about it when they changed how
>> things work
>> for ordering books, but it is clear that the disability office
>> hasn't
>> said anything to the bookstore, and no other student has
>> explained the
>> problems related to alternative formats and getting the print
>> copy so
>> we can get the alternative copy to the manager.  I know there
>> are
>> plenty of students on my campus who use alternative format
>> textbooks,
>> but I guess I'm going to have to be the one who is the squeaky
>> wheel.
>> The only issue is that I'm not exactly sure what to do next now
>> that
>> I've explained what the problem is.  I have the textbook
>> manager's
>> name now and know how to get ahold of him directly, but this is
>> a
>> bigger issue than just getting my personal books, and I'd like
>> for it
>> to be fixed next semester.  Who knows; maybe changes that would
>> make
>> it easier for people to order in advance to get alternative
>> formats
>> would make the system more like what it was, and therefore
>> easier for
>> everybody.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> --
>> Kaiti
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Kaiti
>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:08:41 -0400
> From: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Kaiti Shelton'" <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>, "'National
>    Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
> Message-ID: <COL401-EAS479D4DF21D384422412CEDDBAB10 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hello Kaiti,
> 
> Sounds like there was a systematic lapse of communication between the
> college and the professors and the bookstore. I can understand that you
> would want to purchase your books from the bookstore if that is the only way
> to make use of the book scholarship. However, if you are not able to receive
> your textbooks in a timely manner then I would wonder how much the
> scholarship is really worth and would consider purchasing your textbooks
> somewhere else if you are not able to get them when you need them.
> 
> Other people have already suggested other ideas for what to do when you are
> not able to obtain your textbook on time. In addition to what has already
> been said, I would suggest forming a study group with someone who has a copy
> of the textbook if they are in limited supply. You could have the members of
> the group take turns reading the textbook aloud while you take notes on what
> is being read from the textbook. You could also offer everyone else in the
> group a copy of these notes in exchange for reading the textbook aloud for
> you. You could even offer to bring some munchies for the study group too.
> This way you could still participate in the study group even though you
> could not read the textbook aloud to other members of the study group.
> 
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 11:59 PM
> To: Arielle Silverman; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am not required to buy my books on campus, but the scholarship I have is
> there so it is silly to not use it.  At least, that was my thinking before I
> realized that these changes were made and it would take forever for me to
> just get the print copies of the books so I could exchange my receits for
> the text files the DS office had done well in advance of the school year.  I
> did end up buying one book from Amazon this semester, but looking ahead to
> next semester and next year, I think I should have the right to use my book
> scholarship and get my books on-time like everyone else in my class who
> qualified for it.  Especially since I submit my alternative format requests
> way in advance of the start of each semester, it's silly to have the books
> done and stuck in the DS office where they can't be used.
> 
> I'm hoping that the manager will be willing to let me continue paying in
> advance for any print copies which don't come in due to bookstore error when
> the DS office has them ready to be picked up.  I have no problem with paying
> via my scholarship, and look at it this way; if I pay for the book and never
> actually pick up the print copy, that's one more they have in their stock so
> its a win win situation.  I'm just shocked that the DS office didn't say
> something before I did.  I told them back in the first and second weeks of
> school the issues I was having, and though the worked wieth me to make sure
> I was still able to do my assignments they didn't actually work towards
> putting more than a bandaid on the problem.
> 
> I've thought about trying to organize a group of students on campus to
> discuss issues like this and to get a little more backing on certain things,
> but the DS office seems pretty tight-lipped when it comes to
> confidentiality.  I really don't know that many other people who go to the
> DS office for accomodations even though I do know they're out there, so I'm
> not quite sure how I'd start such a group.  It's a great idea that could be
> really awesome if carried out though.
> 
>> On 9/20/14, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Kaiti,
>> Any chance you can buy your books, at least some of them, on Amazon 
>> and email your receipts to the disability office? Or are you required 
>> to buy books on campus?
>> Any books available on Learning Ally or BookShare?
>> Arielle
>> 
>>> On 9/20/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Kaiti,
>>> 
>>> That sounds like a huge mess. I'm sure professors will complain 
>>> loudly; full
>>> 
>>> time professors have committee meetings and those working there years 
>>> have power; I'm sure they hate the system as much as students.
>>> 
>>> What I do is rather than mess with online stuff wich is probably half 
>>> accessible, I go to the bookstore with my schedule and ask a store 
>>> person to
>>> 
>>> walk around with me for books; I get used if possible. I pay for them.
>>> then, the last step I do is the same as you.
>>> I give a copy of my receit to the disabilities office so they can get 
>>> me alternative format books.
>>> 
>>> In your case, I suggest speaking to the manager which you already did.
>>> For books you did not receive, I can only think of four options. 
>>> Order from
>>> 
>>> amazon, barns and noble, or other vendor.
>>> You  could also borrow a friend's copy and scan relevant sections.
>>> You might even borrow your professor's copy and do the same.
>>> The library may have a copy on reserve which you could use.
>>> Finally, you might ask other students who took the class if you can 
>>> buy their copy at a discount. I know at my schools, students have  
>>> often bought
>>> 
>>> used books from other students. Have someone walk around campus with 
>>> you to
>>> 
>>> look for used book fliers as well. At least at Marymount where I was, 
>>> those
>>> 
>>> were often around bulletin boards.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In terms of advocacy, maybe you can get a group of students with 
>>> disablities
>>> 
>>> to
>>> speak up about this.
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> Ashley
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:21 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Bookstore problems
>>> 
>>> Hi, NABSters,
>>> 
>>> I'm having a serious issue with my university's bookstore, and I'm 
>>> wondering if a few of you could weigh in with suggestions as to how I 
>>> might work to change it.
>>> 
>>> Until this semester, I could order my textbooks in advance online.
>>> The site was super accessible, and since it is linked to my schedule 
>>> on our university management site, all I had to do was make sure all 
>>> the books were in my cart and check out.  All the books would be 
>>> packaged up in boxes and ready for pick up when I got to school, and 
>>> since I got an electronic receipt emailed to me when I completed my 
>>> orders online, I could just forward it right away to my disability 
>>> services coordinator, and she would give me most of my books weeks 
>>> before school started.  It was a great system.
>>> 
>>> However, the bookstore decided to stop taking online orders.  
>>> Starting with my class, everyone has had the option to take advantage
>>> of a book scholarship.  This scholarship program is part of a U.S 
>>> Dept of Education grant the school received, and allows for 
>>> qualifying students to receive a 500 ddollar allowance to use on 
>>> textbooks per semester for four years.  This has encouraged more 
>>> people to buy books directly from the university store, where they 
>>> can essentially get them for free or for significantly less, rather 
>>> than go to Amazon, Cheg, or other sources to get their books.  I 
>>> guess for the first two years the book scholarship program was in 
>>> place everything worked great, but now with three classes of students 
>>> qualifying for books, and most of the people wanting to not spend 
>>> money when they don't have to open their wallets, the bookstore
>>> decided the demand was too great for the man-power they had, so they 
>>> stopped accepting online orders and now have everyone come to the 
>>> bookstore once they're on campus to buy their books.
>>> 
>>> This has created several problems for the general campus student 
>>> without any extenuating circumstances or disabilities.  E.G, the way 
>>> professors submit adoptions or book orders is different now, so the 
>>> bookstore lost the adoption one of my professors placed, and only 
>>> ordered enough books for one section of his class when he teaches two.
>>> Another class I'm in doesn't have books yet because for some reason 
>>> the bookstore didn't realize that class would be taught this 
>>> semester, so they didn't replenish their supply of the book.  One 
>>> person in the class is sharing the last copy the store had with everyone
> else.
>>> Thank goodness it's a class that meets once a week so everyone can 
>>> get their reading done.  The other book for the class wasn't in 
>>> either, and the professor just decided to loan out her personal 
>>> copies until the bookstore got the ones for the class in.  Because 
>>> the bookstore didn't take online orders, they didn't really have an 
>>> accurate count of how many books they would need to order for each 
>>> class.  I saw plenty of students in the special order line when I was 
>>> in there trying to sort out my stuff, "special order" being for books 
>>> that aren't necessarily rare, but just aren't in any of the bulk 
>>> orders the bookstore thought to place.  Plenty of sighted students 
>>> have had to wait for books to come in, have had to special order 
>>> things for their classes, and professors have needed to postpone 
>>> assignments when their class was textbook-less.  Overall, it's just a 
>>> less-efficient system that isn't working for anyone.
>>> 
>>> The problem for me, and other students who get alternative formats, 
>>> is that legally the university can't give out the alternative format 
>>> copy without a receipt.  When I went to special order two of my 
>>> books, I tried to get the employees to give me a receipt for my 
>>> order.  They refused, and said that I would get a receipt when I 
>>> picked the books up and paid for them then.  They would not let me 
>>> pay in advance, even though sooner or later I would pay for and get 
>>> the book in some order anyway.
>>> 
>>> Today, when I took my third trip to the bookstore to check on another 
>>> book which is still not in, I asked if my special order I had placed 
>>> 2 weeks ago had arrived, because I was told I would be notified by 
>>> phone when it came in and it had been a while.  I picked up two other 
>>> books a week ago, and the third book I placed on special order along with
>>> the other two was not in then.   I didn't get a phone call about those
>>> other two books even though they had been on the shelf when I checked 
>>> in person, so I just wanted to check again in the store.  This time I 
>>> was a little more insistent with the employees that they figure out 
>>> what was going on with my textbook, because it was my third trip 
>>> there, and I wasn't receiving phone calls I was told I would receive, 
>>> so I wanted to leave there with the book or with knowledge about what 
>>> was going on.  They called the publisher and said that the order was 
>>> automatically canceled by them when they saw I ordered the second 
>>> edition of the book rather than the third, and Oxford Press didn't 
>>> tell the bookstore that they did that.  How I, the student, am 
>>> supposed to know that happened when the second edition is what the 
>>> bookstore site said I should buy is beyond me, and I mentioned to 
>>> them that the other students in my class who don't have their books 
>>> will probably come in wanting new orders as well because midterms are 
>>> in 2 weeks, and no one has their stuff yet except for one person.  I 
>>> then tried to get them to somehow give me proof of order or purchase, 
>>> which I had tried to do with some other books before when I special 
>>> ordered them.  I had already been told once that they won't let me 
>>> pay for the books in advance as I mentioned before, but I told them 
>>> that it is pointless for the Disabil8ity office to have these books 
>>> done and to have put all the time into converting them, and for them 
>>> to not be able to give them to me on a technicality that isn't their
> fault.
>>> Plus, by week 5 of school, it is ridiculous that people are still 
>>> having isssues getting books, and it really does hold the people with 
>>> alternative formats hostage because we can't just borrow someone 
>>> else's book to get our reading done.  I finally got a manager and 
>>> explained the situation I'm having, and he went with me to a register 
>>> and told the casheer to charge me for the book in advance so I could 
>>> have a receipt to take to the disability office and get my book.
>>> 
>>> The textbook manager seemed to understand why this is a problem, and 
>>> apologized for not thinking about it when they changed how things 
>>> work for ordering books, but it is clear that the disability office 
>>> hasn't said anything to the bookstore, and no other student has 
>>> explained the problems related to alternative formats and getting the 
>>> print copy so we can get the alternative copy to the manager.  I know 
>>> there are plenty of students on my campus who use alternative format 
>>> textbooks, but I guess I'm going to have to be the one who is the squeaky
> wheel.
>>> The only issue is that I'm not exactly sure what to do next now that 
>>> I've explained what the problem is.  I have the textbook manager's
>>> name now and know how to get ahold of him directly, but this is a 
>>> bigger issue than just getting my personal books, and I'd like for it 
>>> to be fixed next semester.  Who knows; maybe changes that would make 
>>> it easier for people to order in advance to get alternative formats 
>>> would make the system more like what it was, and therefore easier for 
>>> everybody.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> --
>>> Kaiti
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Kaiti
>>> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 22:37:32 -0400
> From: Jeff Crouch k8tvv <kd8qiq at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible TI84 Calculator
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> Hey Jordyn,
> I use the TI84+ for the algebra 2 class, and I used it for the
> geometry class I took last year, its definatly well worth the 600.
> Wile I don't know how to use  the more advanced capabilities of it, it
> is still worth the investment.
> 
> HTH
> 
>> On 9/23/14, Jordyn Castor via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I am in need of an accessible TI84+ calculator for my Statistics for
>> Engineers course. Do you have any suggestions other than the one from APH? I
>> think $599 is  a bit pricy. haha Are there any apps for the iPhone that are
>> decent scientific calculators?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jordyn
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:54:24 -0700
> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] early action for colleges
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> Hi All,
> I am considering applying for one of the colleges I want to go to with early action 
> and the rest for regular action.
> Have any of you applied with early action or had thought of it? If you did, did you 
> have to write an extra essay? Did you find that doing so was to your advantage?
> Thanks for any input.
> Vejas
> 
> 
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 23:09:55 -0700
> From: Kevin Chao <kevinchao89 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Inclusive Digital Accessibility World
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> The Chao Train and Accessibility Internet Rally (OpenAIR)
> http://chaosat.wordpress.com/
> September 17, 2014
> On 9/7/14, The Chao Train was formally launch. My role is
> Volunteer/Community Coordinator.
> What is it?
> "non-profit skills-based donation service -- all experience from Kevin Chao's:
> IDAW accessibility firm;
> and PMI mobile stabilization stand hardware 2.0.
> These two businesses have been integrated and are core-values in our
> organization...
> Chao Train has expertise in delivering world class Mobile OCR training
> and skills in alt media support!!!
> These 2 services are absolutely free to anyone who is blind or
> visually impaired..."
> ON September 16, at 9:04 AM, I received a phone call from Sharron Rush
> (Executive Director @Knowbility). Sharron provided this wonderful
> endorsement:
> "He is a brilliant technologist and successful entrepreneur who is
> interested in Knowbility and our mission."
> Rush connected me with: Jessica Looney, Community Programs Manager.
> The action item was the following:
> "Thanks to you both, I am excited to have Kevin on the AIR advisers
> and look forward to introducing him to the others this evening."
> Jessica informed me "that OpenAIR are in need of a chair for the
> mentoring committee".
> I responded with:
> "I would be honored and privileged to serve as Chair for OpenAIR
> Mentoring Committee. I appreciate you asking me about this wonderful
> opportunity..."
> 
> 
>> On 9/12/14, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kevin Chao Has Arrived At His Destination
>> September 10, 2014
>> It's about time that I can finally say that my life feels complete...
>> I have retired twice at the age of 24. I invested a lot of energy into
>> academia and the financial services, spent lots of energy at an
>> educational institution and in the banking world; in July 2014, I took
>> out my 401K and pension plans from the University System of Georgia
>> and JPMorgan Chase.
>> I am engaged with the love of my life with a glamorous house, fancy
>> cars, animals as babies...
>> All American blonde (French, Irish, and Swedish) woman;
>> 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, spacious front/backyards;
>> Mercedes E350, Mitsubishi Eclipse;
>> Exotic Australian Bird and Poodle/Shih Tzu/Maltez dogs;
>> And, we will get married on 10/17/14, exactly a quarter-of-a-century
>> after the big earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area...
>> ON September 8, 2014, I formed my own not-for-profit organization,
>> which is in academia, an educational campaign, an awareness effort for
>> those of us who are blind/visually impaired...
>> 
>>> On 9/11/14, Sami Osborne <ligne14 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> Wow, really nice story! It does seem that you've been through a
>>> lot in the past 6 years.
>>> 
>>> Wow, you've actually been to China? That's cool.  I've never been
>>> all the way over there, but would love to go some day and see how
>>> it is.
>>> 
>>> How was that Skype conference you were talking about? That's
>>> really awesome that you got to travel around the world, which is
>>> also one of my dreams :)
>>> 
>>> Good luck with all your future endeavors.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Sami.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Kevin Chao via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:29:47 -0700
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Inclusive Digital Accessibility World
>>> 
>>> Resurrecting Kevin's Blog After Six Years...
>>> August 14, 2014
>>> The Summer of 2008 is when my cousin, Michell Gip experimented
>>> with
>>> Beike Biotech and went in for treatment for an entire month in
>>> Qingdao.  In May 2009, I went to China to make myself a test
>>> subject
>>> for stem cell therapy.  This was an attempt to create a solution
>>> for a
>>> problem that I experienced when I was 14.  A decade ago, three of
>>> my
>>> cousin's (10 years old girl, 5 YO boy, and 12 YO boy) on my
>>> mother
>>> side of the family, and I were diagnosed with: Leber hereditary
>>> optic
>>> neuropathy (LHON).
>>> Since October, 2009, I had Twitter.com/KevinChao89 and handed the
>>> Twitter account over to my significant other in June 2014.  Our
>>> joint-personal Twitter handle is: https://twitter.com/janicem2020
>>> and
>>> our business handle is: https://twitter.com/probizmgmt
>>> On 10/1/12, I was ask to RSVP - Skype Closed Beta Days 2012.
>>> Below is the letter I received:
>>> "Dear Beta Tester,
>>> Every year we honour those members of our beta test team who have
>>> excelled in their participation to join us for a two day
>>> technical
>>> conference and meet people from all over the globe.
>>> We are deeply thankful for your contribution to Skype Beta
>>> Program
>>> during 2012.  And you are cordially invited to 2012 Skype Beta
>>> Days.
>>> Skype will cover all your travel cost (air flight, hotel) for the
>>> event attendance.
>>> Event Details
>>> Place : Prague, Czech Republic
>>> Venue: Radisson Blu, Prague
>>> Date: Nov 14 -16"
>>> In November, 2012, After working at the Georgia Institute of
>>> Technology (job title: Accessibility and Quality Control
>>> Specialist)
>>> in Atlanta, I founded Inclusive Digital Accessibility World.  IDA
>>> WORLD
>>> is your accessibility consultant providing audits, quality
>>> assurance
>>> evaluations, and trainings for small businesses, large
>>> enterprises,
>>> and people with disabilities.
>>> Biz Clients: Google, Apple, Microsoft, Skype, CourseSmart,
>>> MailChimp,
>>> My Blind Spot, Pro Money Image, PayPal, JPMorgan Chase & Co.,
>>> Braille
>>> Works, RSA Security Management, etc.
>>> Business Partners: Janice Messier, Lyft, Uber, Michaels Arts &
>>> Crafts,
>>> Tap Plastics, Niche Business Cafe, Mike May Speaking, 6dot,
>>> Intuit,
>>> UpperCloud Media, The Michael Hingson Group (Motivational
>>> Speaker),
>>> etc.
>>> In the mix of my business trip to Europe, I had to plan for my
>>> work
>>> with JPMorgan Chase & Co.  as Digital Accessibility SME in San
>>> Francisco, CA.  My dreams of traveling the world, working for a
>>> technology company, and working in Silicon Valley all came true;
>>> I
>>> felt like I was in paradise!!!
>>> For detailed specifics on my career, please see my professional
>>> profile on: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinchao89
>>> 
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:31:12 -0500
> From: Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> To: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>, National
>    Association of Blind Students mailing list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] early action for colleges
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> Vejas, I think you should apply early action to all of your 
> colleges. Unlike early decision, early action is not a binding 
> legal agreement. The benefit of early action over regular action, 
> which I don't intend to use at all, is that you find out whether 
> you're acepted earlier. This gives you ore time to apply for 
> appropriate scholarships and make your final decision.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:54:24 -0700
> Subject: [nabs-l] early action for colleges
> 
> Hi All,
> I am considering applying for one of the colleges I want to go to 
> with early action
> and the rest for regular action.
> Have any of you applied with early action or had thought of it? 
> If you did, did you
> have to write an extra essay? Did you find that doing so was to 
> your advantage?
> Thanks for any input.
> Vejas
> 
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