[nabs-l] taking a college class for no credit

[Karl Martin Adam]

You=20wouldn't=20want=20to=20sneak=20in,=20but=20it=20would=20maybe=20be=20=
possible=20to=20
get=20permission=20from=20the=20professor=20to=20do=20this.=20=20Many=20sch=
ools=20won't=20
allow=20it=20though=20because=20they=20have=20rules=20against=20people=20wh=
o=20aren't=20
students=20there=20sitting=20in=20on=20classes.=20=20I've=20sat=20in=20on=20=
several=20
classes=20at=20my=20college=20with=20professor=20permission,=20but=20it's=20=

different=20because=20I'm=20a=20student=20there.

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Thu,=203=20Dec=202015=2001:51:46=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20taking=20a=20college=20class=20for=20no=20credi=
t

Well,=20consistently=20sitting=20in=20on=20classes=20without=20registering=
=20
probably=20would
be=20a=20problem.
I=20suppose=20if=20the=20school=20and=20professor=20are=20okay=20with=20it,=
=20you=20
could.
But=20most=20professors=20take=20attendance=20unless=20it=E2=80=99s=20a=20l=
arge=20lecture=20
class.=20You
cannot=20easily=20sneak=20in=20a=20class=20consistently.
Also,=20I=20cannot=20see=20the=20school=20approving=20an=20=20unofficial=20=
audit.
Kaiti,=20I'm=20rather=20curious=20which=20schools=20people=20do=20this=20at=
=20and=20do=20
so=20without
questions.

Ashley

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Kaiti=20Shelton=20via=20nabs-l
Sent:=20Thursday,=20December=2003,=202015=201:16=20AM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Cc:=20Kaiti=20Shelton
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20taking=20a=20college=20class=20for=20no=20credi=
t

Hi,

First,=20it=20depends=20on=20whether=20or=20not=20you=20actually=20plan=20t=
o=20enroll=20
at
Tech.=20=20As=20Arielle=20pointed=20out,=20you=20will=20only=20be=20there=20=
for=20a=20short
amount=20of=20time=20and=20if=20you=20don't=20officially=20enroll=20they=20=
can't=20even
issue=20you=20a=20transcript.=20=20I=20definitely=20agree=20that=20you=20sh=
ouldn't
jeopardize=20your=20scholarship,=20but=20I=20also=20see=20the=20value=20in=
=20what=20you=20
are
wanting=20to=20do=20to=20gain=20some=20practical=20experience=20with=20coll=
ege=20
before
jumping=20in.=20=20One=20thing=20I've=20recently=20heard=20of=20someone=20d=
oing=20was
"unofficially=20auditting"=20the=20class.=20=20You=20might=20have=20interes=
ting=20
times
figuring=20this=20out=20as=20a=20new=20incoming=20student,=20but=20I've=20h=
eard=20of=20
people
just=20consistently=20sitting=20in=20on=20classes=20to=20learn=20without=20=

registering
with=20the=20university=20or=20officially=20auditing=20the=20class.=20=20I=
=20know=20at=20
our
university=20people=20who=20audit=20aren't=20really=20expected=20to=20take=
=20the=20
tests
and=20do=20the=20homework=20if=20they=20don't=20want=20to=20since=20they're=
=20not=20being
graded=20anyway,=20but=20if=20the=20prof=20is=20willing=20to=20still=20prov=
ide=20you=20
with
electronic=20coppies=20of=20the=20materials=20I=20don't=20see=20why=20you=20=
couldn't=20
still
do=20the=20work=20for=20practice.=20=20I=20agree=20that=20you=20should=20as=
k=20the=20
college
prep=20coordinator=20or=20Pam,=20whoever=20you=20are=20in=20contact=20with.=


You=20can=20also=20call=20your=20school's=20scholarship=20or=20financial=20=
aid=20
office
and=20explain=20the=20situation.=20=20You=20don't=20have=20to=20give=20away=
=20specifics=20
if
you=20don't=20feel=20like=20it,=20but=20if=20you=20say=20you're=20a=20stude=
nt=20with=20
deferred
enrollment=20who=20has=20an=20opportunity=20to=20practice=20adjusting=20to=
=20
college
while=20receiving=20some=20life=20skills=20training=20you=20could=20maintai=
n=20some
annonymity=20if=20you're=20nervous=20about=20that=20being=20an=20issue.=20=
=20However,=20
no
one=20you=20talk=20to=20on=20the=20front=20lines=20of=20an=20office=20phone=
=20should=20have=20
any
authority=20to=20mess=20with=20your=20scholarship=20even=20if=20you=20did=20=
use=20your=20
name
and=20say=20it=20was=20blindness=20training=20you're=20going=20for,=20becau=
se=20you
haven't=20made=20any=20final=20moves=20yet.=20=20I'd=20personally=20recomme=
nd=20just=20
being
upfront=20about=20it=20and=20say=20that=20this=20is=20something=20you'd=20l=
ike=20to=20do=20
if=20it
will=20not=20jeopardize=20your=20scholarship,=20because=20then=20you=20coul=
d=20
outline
the=20benefits=20you'll=20get=20out=20of=20it.=20=20You=20could=20also=20th=
en=20have=20
someone
from=20disability=20services=20back=20you=20up=20if=20you=20wished,=20which=
=20could
possibly=20swing=20things=20in=20your=20favor=20since=20you=20are=20trying=
=20to=20do=20a=20
good
thing=20which=20would=20be=20beneficial=20to=20you.

Even=20if=20it=20doesn't=20work=20out,=20Justin=20makes=20a=20good=20point=
=20that=20you=20
do
have=20nabs=20as=20a=20resource,=20as=20well=20as=20any=20other=20college=20=
student=20
friends
or=20mentors=20you=20might=20have.=20=20Don't=20forget=20about=20the=20reso=
urces=20that=20
are
already=20available,=20especially=20because=20even=20after=20you=20go=20to=
=20LCB=20
and
possibly=20take=20the=20class=20at=20Tech=20taking=20one=20class=20will=20b=
e=20very
different=20from=20taking=204=20or=205=20at=20the=20same=20time.

HTH

On=2012/2/15,=20Elizabeth=20Mohnke=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20
wrote:
=20Hello=20Vejas,

=20I=20think=20Arielle=20made=20some=20great=20suggestions.=20In=20addition=
,=20I=20am=20
wondering
=20if
=20it=20would=20make=20any=20difference=20as=20to=20what=20type=20of=20clas=
s=20you=20might=20
want=20to
=20take
=20while=20receiving=20training=20at=20the=20Louisiana=20Center=20for=20the=
=20Blind.

=20I=20know=20some=20colleges=20offer=20classes=20on=20how=20to=20be=20a=20=
successful=20
college
=20student
=20where=20you=20learn=20things=20such=20as=20time=20management,=20effectiv=
e=20study=20
habits,
=20tips
=20for=20taking=20tests,=20and=20other=20things=20that=20make=20for=20a=20s=
uccessful=20
college
=20student.=20I=20am=20wondering=20what=20your=20college=20in=20California=
=20would=20
think=20about
=20you=20taking=20such=20a=20class=20as=20a=20part=20of=20your=20training=20=
at=20the=20
Louisiana=20Center
=20for=20the=20Blind.=20Since=20most=20scholarships=20depend=20on=20maintai=
ning=20a=20
certain
=20grade
=20point=20average,=20the=20college=20in=20California=20might=20be=20willin=
g=20to=20
make=20an
=20exception=20to=20their=20rules=20if=20you=20are=20interested=20in=20taki=
ng=20a=20
nonacademic
=20class
=20that=20would=20allow=20you=20to=20be=20a=20more=20successful=20student=20=
once=20you=20
start=20taking
=20classes=20there.

=20I=20have=20no=20idea=20if=20the=20college=20in=20California=20would=20be=
=20willing=20to=20
make=20an
=20exception=20to=20their=20rules,=20but=20it=20might=20be=20something=20wo=
rth=20
investigating.=20I
=20know=20I=20was=20not=20prepared=20for=20college=20straight=20out=20of=20=
high=20school,=20
so=20I
=20would
=20definitely=20encourage=20anyone=20to=20take=20a=20college=20class=20as=20=
a=20part=20of=20
their
=20training=20at=20the=20Louisiana=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind=20if=20they=
=20believe=20
it=20is
=20something=20that=20would=20benefit=20them.

=20Warm=20regards,
=20Elizabeth

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20=

Vejas
=20Vasiliauskas=20via=20nabs-l
=20Sent:=20Wednesday,=20December=2002,=202015=2010:00=20PM
=20To:=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Cc:=20Vejas=20Vasiliauskas=20<alpineimagination at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20taking=20a=20college=20class=20for=20no=20credit

=20Hi=20All,
=20I=20was=20wondering=20if=20anyone=20has=20had=20any=20experience=20with=
=20this,=20or=20
could=20give
=20me
=20some=20guidance=20on=20my=20situation.
=20I=20live=20in=20California,=20but=20am=20taking=20a=20year=20off=20betwe=
en=20my=20senior=20
year=20and
=20my
=20first=20year=20of=20college=20so=20that=20I=20can=20attend=20LCB.
=20I=20applied=20for=20college=20last=20year=20as=20a=20senior,=20and=20alr=
eady=20have=20a=20
place=20at=20a
=20college=20in=20California,=20which=20I=20deferred.=20=20I=20received=20a=
=20
scholarship=20from
=20this
=20school=20for=20a=20very=20generous=20amount=20of=20money.
=20I=20am=20allowed=20to=20keep=20the=20scholarship=20provided=20that=20I=20=
don't=20take=20
any
=20college
=20courses=20at=20all=20from=20anywhere=20else.
=20Most=20LCB=20students=20have=20the=20opportunity=20to=20take=20a=20colle=
ge=20class=20
at=20Tech,
=20and
=20I=20would=20like=20to=20be=20able=20to=20do=20that=20too,=20for=20two=20=
main
=20reasons:=20to=20learn=20about=20how=20tests=20work=20and=20to=20learn=20=
about=20asking=20
for
=20accommodations=20in=20a=20place=20where=20I=20have=20lots=20of=20support=