[nabs-l] accomodations for english classes

Tue Feb 3 02:22:43 UTC 2015

So,=20like=20I=20was=20saying,=20you=20could=20convert=20it=20yourself=20th=
rough=20
robobraille.org=20or=20convertfiles.org=20or=20one=20of=20a=20number=20of=20=

different=20places.=20=20There's=20also=20a=20free=20version=20of=20adobe=20=
you=20could=20
use,=20or=20most=20modern=20web=20browsers=20can=20convert=20PDFs.=20=20Als=
o,=20the=20
BrailleNote=20has=20a=20PDF=20conversion=20utility,=20but=20it=20only=20wor=
ks=20for=20
accessible=20PDFs.=20=20Once=20you=20convert=20the=20file,=20it=20will=20al=
so=20be=20a=20
lot=20smaller,=20so=20any=20size=20flash=20drive=20will=20work.

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=202=20Feb=202015=2021:09:06=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20accomodations=20for=20english=20classes

Carl,

Again,=20the=20school=20denied=20my=20request=20to=20convert=20to=20a=20dif=
ferent=20
format.
She=20said=20the=20text=20comes=20in=20pdf=20and=20it=20has=20to=20stay=20t=
hat=20way=20for=20
security
reasons.
They=20are=20being=20difficult.=20They=20have=20the=20conversion=20software=
=20which=20
is=20adobe
pro.
They=20just=20will=20not=20do=20it.
The=20school=20knows=20about=20the=20website=20accessibility=20=20issues=20=
too,=20and=20
fails=20to
fix=20them.=20Me=20and=20a=20blind=20staff=20member=20and=20student=20told=
=20them=20of=20
it.

I=20need=20to=20see=20the=20text.=20Learning=20ally=20is=20not=20working=20=
well=20for=20me=20
for=20a=20lit
class.
I=20do=20like=20your=20idea=20of=20the=20braille=20display.=20I=20can=20use=
=20the=20
notetaker's
braille=20display=20hooked=20to=20the=20pc.
That,=20or,=20I=20can=20see=20if=20putting=20the=20text=20file=20on=20a=20U=
SB=20drive=20and=20
placing=20the
drive=20in=20the=20BrailleNote=20will=20work.
Then=20I=20can=20read=20the=20pdf=20on=20the=20notetaker=20and=20forget=20t=
he=20step=20of=20
the=20pc.

I'll=20just=20have=20to=20see=20what=20happens=20when=20the=20file=20comes.=
=20I'm=20just=20
so
frustrated=20with=20the=20school,=20northern=20virginia=20community=20colle=
ge.=20
nova=20for
short.

I=20would=20think=20they=20=20would=20want=20to=20be=20helpful,=20not=20mak=
e=20excuses.

The=20norton=20anthology=20text=20is=20so=20big,=20I=20will=20have=20to=20e=
xperiment=20
and=20see=20what
size=20USB=20drive=20I=20need=20to=20put=20it=20on.

Ashley

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Karl=20Martin=20Adam
Sent:=20Monday,=20February=2002,=202015=206:17=20PM
To:=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Student=
s=20
mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20accomodations=20for=20english=20classes

If=20you=20have=20a=20Braille=20display=20you=20can=20connect=20it=20to=20y=
our
computer,=20and=20it=20should=20display=20anything=20your=20computer=20can=
=20read.
It=20doesn't=20have=20to=20be=20a=20BRF=20file.=20=20Similarly,=20you=20can=
=20connect
your=20notetaker=20to=20the=20computer=20and=20use=20it=20as=20a=20braille=
=20display=20or
read=20files=20on=20it=20directly.=20=20Many=20schools=20don't=20have=20con=
version
software=20to=20make=20the=20PDF=20into=20something=20else,=20and=20anyway,=

converting=20it=20won't=20make=20the=20words=20unsmoosh.=20=20If=20it's=20r=
eally=20a
big=20deal=20for=20you,=20try=20using=20robobraille=20or=20one=20of=20the=20=
other
conversion=20services=20out=20there.

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=202=20Feb=202015=2017:41:12=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20accomodations=20for=20english=20classes

This=20is=20a=20copy=20for=20the=20list.

Hi=20Lucy=20and=20all,
thanks=20for=20the=20responses.

Unfortunately,=20I=20was=20informed=20that=20I=20will=20get=20a=20pdf=20fil=
e=20only.
I=20requested=20it=20from=20the=20school=20and=20am=20waiting.=20They=20den=
ied=20my
request=20to
convert=20it=20to=20a=20text=20based=20format=20even=20though=20other=20col=
leges=20do
that.
This=20community=20college=20is=20just=20difficult,=20IMO.=20Its=20an=20ele=
ctive
thankfully=20so
if=20I=20have=20to=20miss=20copying=20quotes=20because=20I=20cannot=20go=20=
find=20them,
its=20not=20such
a=20big=20deal.

Lucy,
I=20wish=20I=20could=20use=20my=20braille=20display,=20but=20I=20do=20not=20=
have=20a=20=20brf
file=20and
never=20will.
I=20checked=20bookshare.
They=20do=20not=20have=20this=20book.

The=20text=20is=20Norton=20Anthology=20of=20short=20fiction.=20The=20sevent=
h
edition.

If=20you=20can=20assist=20me,=20I'll=20write=20off=20list.
Just=20let=20me=20know,=20and=20which=20email=20you=20want=20me=20to=20use.=

Thanks.

Ashley

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Lucy=20Sirianni
Sent:=20Tuesday,=20January=2027,=202015=203:17=20AM
To:=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Student=
s
mailing=20list
Subject:=20re:=20[nabs-l]=20accomodations=20for=20english=20classes

Hi=20Ashley,

As=20a=20doctoral=20candidate=20in=20English=20and=20a=20college-level=20En=
glish
instructor,=20let=20me=20take=20a=20stab=20at=20answering=20just=20a=20few=
=20of=20your
questions.

First,=20I=20would=20encourage=20you=20to=20obtain=20the=20text=20in=20a=20=
format=20you
can=20access=20via=20Braille=20display.=20=20This=20will=20not=20only=20all=
ow=20you=20to
access=20them=20in=20class=20but=20will=20also=20make=20it=20much=20easier=
=20to
integrate=20quotes=20into=20your=20writing,=20as=20you=20can=20simply=20pas=
te=20them
into=20your=20analysis.=20=20Many=20of=20the=20Norton=20anthologies=20are=20=
available
via=20Bookshare.=20=20If=20the=20one=20you're=20using=20isn't,=20feel=20fre=
e=20to
contact=20me=20directly,=20as=20I=20frequently=20teach=20from=20various=20N=
orton
anthologies=20and=20may=20be=20able=20to=20point=20you=20toward=20an=20acce=
ssible
version=20of=20the=20one=20assigned=20for=20your=20class.

Second,=20I=20would=20ask=20for=20both=20comments=20and=20handouts=20to=20b=
e=20sent=20to
you=20electronically.=20=20These=20are=20very=20reasonable=20accommodations=
=20to
request=20and=20ones=20I=20routinely=20offer=20students=20with=20no=20incon=
venience
to=20myself.=20=20Assuming=20you=20do=20indeed=20have=20a=20note-taker,=20y=
ou
shouldn't=20need=20the=20handouts=20too=20far=20in=20advance=20of=20class,=
=20so=20the
professor=20shouldn't=20need=20to=20alter=20his=20or=20her=20schedule=20of=
=20lesson
planning=20substantially.

I=20haven't=20worked=20with=20Blackboard=20or=20with=20texts=20in=20audio=20=
format,
so=20I=20can't=20offer=20any=20input=20on=20your=20other=20questions,=20but=
=20please
don't=20hesitate=20to=20be=20in=20touch=20if=20I=20can=20help=20with=20anyt=
hing=20else.

Enjoy=20the=20course!

Lucy

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2026=20Jan=202015=2023:24:54=20-0500
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20accomodations=20for=20english=20classes

Hi=20all,

I?=99m=20taking=20a=20literature=20elective.=20=20A=20year=20or=20so=20back=
,=20I=20tried
taking=20one=20and=20wrote=20to=20you=20all=20about=20a=20professor=20not=20=
interested
in=20accomodating=20me.
He=20showed=20videos=20of=20the=20literature=20he=20used=20and=20I=20would=
=20not=20be
able=20to=20access=20that=20outside=20class=20with=20a=20reader=20among=20o=
ther
issues.

Fortunately,=20my=20new=20professor=20for=20short=20story=20seems=20nice=20=
and
willing=20to=20help.=20=20No=20videos=20are=20used=20and=20his=20class=20is=
=20very
auditory=20with=20lots=20of=20discussion;=20sometimes=20in=20small=20groups=
=20and
sometimes=20as=20a=20whole=20class.

Here=20are=20my=20=20questions=20and=20concerns=20though.
Note=20that=20I=20have=20the=20book=20in=20audio=20form=20now,=20but=20am=20=
looking=20for
it=20in=20text=20form=20and=20may=20ask=20my=20dss=20office=20to=20get=20it=
=20from=20the
publisher.=20=20I=20generally=20have=20found=20publisher=20files=20unfriend=
ly
though=20as=20its=20pdf.=20=20the=20words=20are=20often=20smashed=20togethe=
r=20and
words=20are=20broken=20up=20with=20hyphens=20as=20jaws=20reads=20them.
But,=20I=20might=20need=20to=20try=20that=20way=20as=20I=20really=20need=20=
to=20see=20the
text=20and=20spelling=20of=20some=20words.=20=20Otherwise,=20I=20may=20have=
=20to=20pay=20a
reader=20to=20read=20some=20of=20the=20stories=20where=20Learning=20ally=20=
readers
are=20low=20quality=20or=20in=20situations=20where=20I=20need=20to=20see=20=
the=20spelling
and=20quotes=20in=20the=20story.

What=20ideas=20do=20you=20have=20for=20these=20issues.

1.=20=20The=20class=20is=20asked=20to=20bring=20their=20texts=20and=20refer=
ence
passages=20for=20discussion.
So=20far,=20the=20prof=20or=20a=20student=20reads=20the=20quotes=20to=20me.=
=20=20But=20I=20am
at=20a=20disadvantage=20not=20seeing=20the=20quotes=20in=20their=20context.=
=20=20Other
students=20can=20read=20further=20past=20the=20quote=20or=20skim=20the=20pa=
ge=20to
refresh=20their=20memory=20where=20the=20passage=20came=20from.

Do=20you=20bring=20=20an=20accessible=20copy=20of=20the=20book=20to=20class=
?=20for
instance,=20a=20brf=20file=20or=20text=20file=20on=20your=20braille=20notet=
aker.

2.=20=20We=20have=20to=20write=20about=20the=20readings=20either=20a=20read=
ing=20journal
response=20or=20discussion=20board.
After=20writing=20them,=20how=20has=20your=20professor=20given=20you=20feed=
back?
Do=20you=20ask=20for=20it=20electronically=20so=20you=20can=20read=20his/he=
r
response?
In=20the=20past,=20I?=99ve=20handed=20in=20homework=20and=20professors=20wr=
ote=20it=20by
hand=20like=20everyone=20else;=20they=20would=20go=20over=20it=20with=20me=
=20if=20I=20asked
or=20I=20just=20asked=20my=20reader=20to=20read=20it=20over.
But,=20since=20the=20prof=20does=20it=20electronically=20via=20blackboard,=
=20maybe,
he=20could=20write=20the=20feedback=20in=20the=20paper.

3.=20=20For=20the=20discussion=20boards,=20is=20that=20accessible?=20I=20us=
e=20jaws=2015.
If=20you=20had=20issues,=20what=20were=20they?=20They=20use=20blackboard=20=
and=20we
have=20to=20not=20only=20have=20to=20write=20a=20new=20post=20but=20also=20=
=20comment=20on
them=20as=20well,=20and=20I=20don?=99t=20know=20if=20I=20will=20be=20able=20=
to=20comment=20on
them.=20=20I=20know=20I=20could=20not=20years=20ago=20in=20an=20english=20c=
lass.

4.=20=20How=20do=20you=20work=20quotes=20into=20your=20reading=20responses=
=20or=20essays?
Doing=20this=20auditorily=20is=20harder=20and=20I=20hope=20I=20can=20get=20=
this=20book=20in
text=20soon.

The=20only=20way=20I=20can=20think=20of=20=20is=20to=20copy=20it=20carefull=
y=20verbatum=20on
my=20braille=20note=20first=20as=20I?=99m=20reading.
I=20cannot=20go=20back=20like=20everyone=20else=20and=20skim=20for=20quotes=
=20and=20then
pick=20what=20I=20want=20to.=20=20I?=99ll=20have=20to=20think=20about=20it=
=20as=20I=20read=20and
copy=20it=20down=20as=20I=20listen.
Is=20it=20okay=20to=20start=20a=20paragraph=20with=20the=20quote=20or=20sho=
uld=20I
explain=20it=20and=20then=20quote=20it?

5.=20=20Our=20responses=20have=20to=20be=20a=20certain=20word=20count=20or=
=20more.=20=20I=20use
word=202010.=20=20How=20do=20I=20find=20the=20word=20count?

Also=20when=20=20using=20handouts=20in=20class=20for=20activities,=20how=20=
=20do=20you
access=20them?=20Just=20use=20another=20student=20as=20a=20reader?=20That?=
=99s=20what
I?=99ve=20usually=20done.
I=20was=20considering=20trying=20to=20get=20handouts=20ahead=20of=20time,=20=
but=20I
don?=99t=20think=20the=20professor=20preps=20too=20far=20in=20advance.

Thanks.

Ashley
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