From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:26:57 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 12:26:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! Message-ID: Good afternoon Federation family! Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce myself. My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at Wake Forest University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double major in Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a minor in Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging out with friends. In under one week, we will gather together as students at the annual Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind Students. I am eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS Board! As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students, I have been able to work with various students across diverse backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have revitalized our web site, created new fund-raising initiatives, and held a second student seminar in addition to the North Carolina State Convention. Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current NABS Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am passionate about advocating for equal access to education through legislative activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising Committee, I have helped plan the upcoming Penny Wars Fund-Raiser, as well as strategize various ways in which we can move forward with gaining funds. One of these ideas is grant writing, and we are hopeful that our organization will increase funding for future initiatives. I have learned that financial support is vital in nearly everything we do. As State Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s first BELL Program seven months in advance. I hope to take the skills I acquired through this experience to increase funds for NABS’ initiatives. I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students of today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for students to have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with school, or rely on a group of dedicated individuals when they need guidance but cannot find that support. I want to be a leader of an organization that has already helped me so much. I am passionate, hard-working, thoughtful, and ambitious. I believe that I have the experience necessary to take on this position. NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our efforts, while providing new ideas for the coming year. Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job with NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working alongside her by updating our web site regularly. Student division presidents should genuinely want to update us, and I am enthusiastic about fostering that connection and building communication among our states. Furthermore, social media is so pertinent now, and I hope to incorporate Twitter and Facebook into our Communications Committee. Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on account of personal finances. I know I have been in that position, and we should work to increase student participation since two of the huge initiatives are highly relevant to us as students. Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome everyone into our movement, while providing them with encouragement, friendship, and resources. Building relationships with colleges and universities is a great way of doing just that. I helped both the Connecticut and North Carolina student divisions compile a bulk list of both public and private institutions in these states. By creating a relationship with Disability Services, we can build that connection and strengthen our national participation. Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is why I’m asking for your support. I am running for the NABS Board because I believe in our cause and believe in blind students nationwide. I hope you will consider voting for me next week at our Business Meeting. Thank you! Kathryn Webster (203) 273-8463 kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Wed Jul 1 17:15:47 2015 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 13:15:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55942043.4060305@tysdomain.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Kathryn, I only want to raise one issue because I know you are incredibly busy. Until recently your email had listed 4 or 5 different positions in your signature. Also having worked with you, I know you were in a pretty tight time crunch when it came to serving on the ACBS board, which left us unable to draw on your experience. - From what I've seen and heard, the NABS board takes a lot of dedication and work. It is afterall a really big organization. Though I'm not on the board or not really a member, I just wanted to point some of this out, in the hopes that it will somehow be helpful. Thanks, On 7/1/2015 12:26 PM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: > Good afternoon Federation family! > > Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce > myself. My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at > Wake Forest University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double > major in Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a minor > in Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging out with > friends. > > In under one week, we will gather together as students at the > annual Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind > Students. I am eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS > Board! > > As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students, > I have been able to work with various students across diverse > backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have revitalized our > web site, created new fund-raising initiatives, and held a second > student seminar in addition to the North Carolina State > Convention. > > Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current > NABS Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am > passionate about advocating for equal access to education through > legislative activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising Committee, I > have helped plan the upcoming Penny Wars Fund-Raiser, as well as > strategize various ways in which we can move forward with gaining > funds. One of these ideas is grant writing, and we are hopeful that > our organization will increase funding for future initiatives. I > have learned that financial support is vital in nearly everything > we do. As State Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s > first BELL Program seven months in advance. I hope to take the > skills I acquired through this experience to increase funds for > NABS’ initiatives. > > I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind > Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students of > today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for students > to have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with school, or > rely on a group of dedicated individuals when they need guidance > but cannot find that support. I want to be a leader of an > organization that has already helped me so much. I am passionate, > hard-working, thoughtful, and ambitious. I believe that I have the > experience necessary to take on this position. > > NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring > multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our > efforts, while providing new ideas for the coming year. > > Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job > with NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working > alongside her by updating our web site regularly. Student division > presidents should genuinely want to update us, and I am > enthusiastic about fostering that connection and building > communication among our states. Furthermore, social media is so > pertinent now, and I hope to incorporate Twitter and Facebook into > our Communications Committee. > > Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of > potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully > increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those > interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on account > of personal finances. I know I have been in that position, and we > should work to increase student participation since two of the > huge initiatives are highly relevant to us as students. > > Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome > everyone into our movement, while providing them with > encouragement, friendship, and resources. Building relationships > with colleges and universities is a great way of doing just that. I > helped both the Connecticut and North Carolina student divisions > compile a bulk list of both public and private institutions in > these states. By creating a relationship with Disability Services, > we can build that connection and strengthen our national > participation. > > Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is > why I’m asking for your support. I am running for the NABS Board > because I believe in our cause and believe in blind students > nationwide. I hope you will consider voting for me next week at our > Business Meeting. > > Thank you! Kathryn Webster (203) 273-8463 > kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing > list nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To > unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVlCBDAAoJEAdP60+BYxejPBAH/0KH/vq0d3/GribG3fanjPPf ahtzFNabMHux+aS8JnF5V+qu/dugJobGiQ/VHVkYJXsQhper57RG+wo1hCkutZBb 2AUXzvAhrDzwy0NvFZV/TIfeCybBwTh+qfZiT8vdi7UMxO3n08i1BQOtVKBqIcXH NCQVIHnfbPxvNPAV58A7rtDEwewHlcj5tBbSEqjhQbrP4tWQANf+ptk18Jp4NdMS 7W5ZHKT75pZteOsGxZYztkUPy7bTXIpH36eQDyvaYX8kkR4+PnCow3vWEV2ArBwh Vc1olvPEHleDBcynzZAwzdL3V3v/hSL3pC38a9AOOvtuO8mWMBeTXTsdu6g1mbo= =Vk4X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kaybaycar at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 17:36:02 2015 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 12:36:02 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Calling Outlook users Message-ID: Hi all, I am learning Outlook as a part of my job. Although it seems to be accessible for the most part, I am finding it clunky with the keyboard. Also, there seem to be so many keystrokes I can't keep track of all of them. The learning process is difficult because I am struggling with the keystrokes and finding things. For example, I still don't know where the drafts go... I read the help topics for Jaws and changed the Jaws settings the way I wanted them. Do any of you who use outlook have any other suggestions? Which keystrokes are the most useful, or do you even use most of them? Do you prefer to use Outlook or some other email client? I think I'm stuck with Outlook, since one of my work tasks is to learn it, but I am interested in email cliants since I have never used one. I look forward to seeing many of you at convention! -- Julie McGinnity National Federation of the Blind of Missouri second vice president, National Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary, Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President graduate, Guiding Eyes for the Blind 2008, 2014 "For we walk by faith, not by sight" 2 Cor. 7 From hbwilliams16 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 17:52:40 2015 From: hbwilliams16 at gmail.com (Hindley Williams) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 13:52:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Guinness World Record Attempt at National Convention Message-ID: Hello, Fellow Students! Are you attending this year's National Convention in Orlando? If so, then please sign up for our Guinness World Record attempt, to be held on Wednesday, July 8 at 7:00 a.m. More information, including the sign-up form and specifics about the event, can be found here: https://nfb.org/gwr I hope to see all of you in Orlando, and at the Guinness World Record attempt! All Best, Hindley -- Hindley Williams Summer Intern National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street Baltimore, Maryland 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2527 hbwilliams16 at gmail.com The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. From bunnykatie6 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 17:56:25 2015 From: bunnykatie6 at gmail.com (Katie Wang) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 13:56:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Calling Outlook users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Julie, I use Outlook 2010 for all of my email needs and it has worked well for me. I do use the standard Windows keystrokes, such as Control plus r for replying, Control plus f for forwarding, and Control plus Enter for sending messages, but rarely bother with memorizing the specific JAWS keystrokes, as I'm able to accomplish everything I need to do by going through the menus. The message drafts should be stored in the Drafts folder by default. I have heard that the layout for Outlook 2013 is a bit different,so I'm not sure if that might be contributing to your difficulty. Feel free to let me know if you have any more specific questions though and I would be happy to help if I can! Best, Katie On 7/1/15, Julie McGinnity via nabs-l wrote: > Hi all, > > I am learning Outlook as a part of my job. Although it seems to be > accessible for the most part, I am finding it clunky with the > keyboard. Also, there seem to be so many keystrokes I can't keep > track of all of them. The learning process is difficult because I am > struggling with the keystrokes and finding things. For example, I > still don't know where the drafts go... > > I read the help topics for Jaws and changed the Jaws settings the way > I wanted them. Do any of you who use outlook have any other > suggestions? Which keystrokes are the most useful, or do you even use > most of them? Do you prefer to use Outlook or some other email > client? I think I'm stuck with Outlook, since one of my work tasks is > to learn it, but I am interested in email cliants since I have never > used one. > > I look forward to seeing many of you at convention! > > > -- > Julie McGinnity > National Federation of the Blind of Missouri second vice president, > National Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary, > Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President > graduate, Guiding Eyes for the Blind 2008, 2014 > "For we walk by faith, not by sight" > 2 Cor. 7 > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bunnykatie6%40gmail.com > From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Wed Jul 1 18:08:40 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Manners, Derek) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 14:08:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! In-Reply-To: <55942043.4060305@tysdomain.com> References: <55942043.4060305@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Tyler, as a NABS board member I can tell you that Kate has been more than accessible to the Board and worked with us on a number of endeavours. She has collected the most TEACH Act testimonials of any student on or off the board. She has done research on 25 of the largest companies in the United States to identify grants and donations policies at these institutions. She has attended every Presidents' Call, almost every membership call, and has a good working relationship with many of us on the Board. We don't hand out MVP trophies but if we did, she would get my vote for MVP for NABS and that is why I'm supporting her for the board. As to your point about Kate being busy, I concur. She is tremendously busy. That makes her dedication and tireless work for the Federation all the more impressive. Furthermore, she has leveraged the relationships that her business fosters to get a letter from her University urging passage of the TEACH Act. This is something no other student has been able to do as of yet (although we at Harvard are close). Finally, she has resigned her position with ACB several months ago because she realizes that what we do in the Federation is more affective at helping our community live the lives we want. Best regards Derek Manners Rising 3L Harvard Law School Editor in Chief of the Harvard Human Rights Journal Summer Legal Associate at Allen and Overy Part time Legal Associate at the Connecticut Attorney General's Office 1st Vice President of the Massachusetts Association of Blind Students NABS Board Member On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Kathryn, > I only want to raise one issue because I know you are incredibly busy. > Until recently your email had listed 4 or 5 different positions in > your signature. Also having worked with you, I know you were in a > pretty tight time crunch when it came to serving on the ACBS board, > which left us unable to draw on your experience. > > - From what I've seen and heard, the NABS board takes a lot of > dedication and work. It is afterall a really big organization. Though > I'm not on the board or not really a member, I just wanted to point > some of this out, in the hopes that it will somehow be helpful. > > Thanks, > On 7/1/2015 12:26 PM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: > > Good afternoon Federation family! > > > > Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce > > myself. My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at > > Wake Forest University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double > > major in Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a minor > > in Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging out with > > friends. > > > > In under one week, we will gather together as students at the > > annual Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind > > Students. I am eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS > > Board! > > > > As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students, > > I have been able to work with various students across diverse > > backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have revitalized our > > web site, created new fund-raising initiatives, and held a second > > student seminar in addition to the North Carolina State > > Convention. > > > > Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current > > NABS Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am > > passionate about advocating for equal access to education through > > legislative activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising Committee, I > > have helped plan the upcoming Penny Wars Fund-Raiser, as well as > > strategize various ways in which we can move forward with gaining > > funds. One of these ideas is grant writing, and we are hopeful that > > our organization will increase funding for future initiatives. I > > have learned that financial support is vital in nearly everything > > we do. As State Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s > > first BELL Program seven months in advance. I hope to take the > > skills I acquired through this experience to increase funds for > > NABS’ initiatives. > > > > I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind > > Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students of > > today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for students > > to have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with school, or > > rely on a group of dedicated individuals when they need guidance > > but cannot find that support. I want to be a leader of an > > organization that has already helped me so much. I am passionate, > > hard-working, thoughtful, and ambitious. I believe that I have the > > experience necessary to take on this position. > > > > NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring > > multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our > > efforts, while providing new ideas for the coming year. > > > > Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job > > with NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working > > alongside her by updating our web site regularly. Student division > > presidents should genuinely want to update us, and I am > > enthusiastic about fostering that connection and building > > communication among our states. Furthermore, social media is so > > pertinent now, and I hope to incorporate Twitter and Facebook into > > our Communications Committee. > > > > Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of > > potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully > > increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those > > interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on account > > of personal finances. I know I have been in that position, and we > > should work to increase student participation since two of the > > huge initiatives are highly relevant to us as students. > > > > Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome > > everyone into our movement, while providing them with > > encouragement, friendship, and resources. Building relationships > > with colleges and universities is a great way of doing just that. I > > helped both the Connecticut and North Carolina student divisions > > compile a bulk list of both public and private institutions in > > these states. By creating a relationship with Disability Services, > > we can build that connection and strengthen our national > > participation. > > > > Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is > > why I’m asking for your support. I am running for the NABS Board > > because I believe in our cause and believe in blind students > > nationwide. I hope you will consider voting for me next week at our > > Business Meeting. > > > > Thank you! Kathryn Webster (203) 273-8463 > > kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing > > list nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To > > unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > nabs-l: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > > > > - -- > Take care, > Ty > twitter: @sorressean > web:http://tysdomain.com > pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVlCBDAAoJEAdP60+BYxejPBAH/0KH/vq0d3/GribG3fanjPPf > ahtzFNabMHux+aS8JnF5V+qu/dugJobGiQ/VHVkYJXsQhper57RG+wo1hCkutZBb > 2AUXzvAhrDzwy0NvFZV/TIfeCybBwTh+qfZiT8vdi7UMxO3n08i1BQOtVKBqIcXH > NCQVIHnfbPxvNPAV58A7rtDEwewHlcj5tBbSEqjhQbrP4tWQANf+ptk18Jp4NdMS > 7W5ZHKT75pZteOsGxZYztkUPy7bTXIpH36eQDyvaYX8kkR4+PnCow3vWEV2ArBwh > Vc1olvPEHleDBcynzZAwzdL3V3v/hSL3pC38a9AOOvtuO8mWMBeTXTsdu6g1mbo= > =Vk4X > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu > From nabs.president at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 18:33:53 2015 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Sean Whalen) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 14:33:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! Message-ID: <010401d0b42c$7cb39910$761acb30$@gmail.com> Good afternoon NABS, I hope many of you are preparing to depart for Orlando! This year's convention promises to be action-packed and memorable. And NABS has a ton going on (stay tuned for a promotional email)! I just wanted to drop a quick line on this thread in response to Tyler's message. I have worked with Kathryn over the past year and been extremely impressed. She has been a standout on both our legislative and fundraising committees, and has also lent support on communications projects. I will let Kathryn speak to her time commitments with other projects inside and outside of the Federation, should she so choose. I've certainly learned that she is more than capable of speaking for herself. But to my mind the best way to judge how much one will contribute to the work of NABS on the board is to look at how much time, effort, and interest they have devoted to NABS while off the board. As investment professionals say, past performance is no guarantee of future results, but it sure seems to be the strongest indicator available in cases like this. And the past performance of Kathryn Webster with NABS has been extremely strong. Kathryn led the effort to collect letters about student experiences with inaccessible technology prior to Washington Seminar. Her work was professional and meticulous. In fact, the job she did prompted NFB government affairs staff to tell me directly how impressed they were with her. Kathryn has played a key role on Fundraising for NABS. With Derek and Candice she is running our Penny Wars fundraiser this year. She has compiled a list of grants for which we may be eligible and provided info on requirements and processes for applying for each. And I know she has had a great deal of success gaining grant funding for state student divisions. Beyond this, she has been involved in mundane efforts to make calls and send emails to recruit help and move projects along. I think the concern that you raise, Tyler, is a very good one. NABS takes a commitment of time and energy. And anybody seeking a position on the board should be aware of this and committed to providing that time and energy. I can say absolutely unequivocally that Kathryn has devoted the time and effort required of a board member over the last year, and then some. In addition, I find her smart, capable, honest and kind. Kathryn is exactly the type of individual we need in leadership. I can say that I will without a doubt be supporting Kathryn for whichever position on the board she decides to run. And I would urge anybody who wants to see NABS and the Federation bigger, stronger, and more active to do the same. Thanks for taking the time to read, and I will see many of you in Orlando! Take care, Sean Sean Whalen President, National Association of Blind Students (608) 332-4147 From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 20:57:38 2015 From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 16:57:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Meeting Up At NFB15 Message-ID: Hi All! I'm going to be arriving at nfb15 on the fifth of July. If anyone would like to connect/meet, tweet me at aca_fan1980 which is my twitter jackbauerfan4ever on Skype or email me here. Also, tonight between 7 and 10PM eastern, you can reach me on Skype at aaonacaville or at http://acaville.com Looking forward to meeting new and old people this year! From hope.paulos at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 22:53:44 2015 From: hope.paulos at gmail.com (Hope Paulos) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 18:53:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Meeting Up At NFB15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012f01d0b450$c9744cd0$5c5ce670$@gmail.com> I am also going to the convention. If you'd like to meet up, please tweet me at: @Fidelco4Ever My email is hope.paulos at gmail.com Take care! Hope -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Dunphy via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:58 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Dunphy Subject: [nabs-l] Meeting Up At NFB15 Hi All! I'm going to be arriving at nfb15 on the fifth of July. If anyone would like to connect/meet, tweet me at aca_fan1980 which is my twitter jackbauerfan4ever on Skype or email me here. Also, tonight between 7 and 10PM eastern, you can reach me on Skype at aaonacaville or at http://acaville.com Looking forward to meeting new and old people this year! _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 00:46:51 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 20:46:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! Message-ID: <55948a0a.06da0d0a.1909e.03cb@mx.google.com> Hi Kathryn I'm glad that you are running for the Nabs board. I will be listening to the convention via livestream next week. I hope you get the position. From amieelsabo at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 01:10:30 2015 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 19:10:30 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Meeting Up At NFB15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c601d0b463$e3ca91d0$ab5fb570$@gmail.com> Hello david, That's awesome that you will be attending convention this year! I too will be attending the convention too! I will be arriving on july 4th and leaving on july 11th. Are you staying at the main hotel or you staying at the overflow hotels? I'm staying at the main hotel. I would love to connect with you. I haven't seen you in sooo long and, I would love to catch up with you. You can email me at amieelsabo at gmail.com Well, that's all for now my dear take care and, I will talk to you soon. Hugs always, amy -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Dunphy via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:58 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Dunphy Subject: [nabs-l] Meeting Up At NFB15 Hi All! I'm going to be arriving at nfb15 on the fifth of July. If anyone would like to connect/meet, tweet me at aca_fan1980 which is my twitter jackbauerfan4ever on Skype or email me here. Also, tonight between 7 and 10PM eastern, you can reach me on Skype at aaonacaville or at http://acaville.com Looking forward to meeting new and old people this year! _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com From zumbagecko at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 01:24:56 2015 From: zumbagecko at gmail.com (petras) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 18:24:56 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] nemeth tutorial for braillente apex Message-ID: <559492eb.a5f8420a.4e15.ffffa096@mx.google.com> Hi, can some body give me the nemeth tutorial file for the braillenote apex? I accedently deleted the folder. 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Repeated violations of the guidelines could result in disciplinary action from the list owner, including list removal. From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Thu Jul 2 03:39:04 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 23:39:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! References: <55943052.5030000@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: I think this was meant for the full list from Tyler. > From: "Littlefield, Tyler" > Date: July 1, 2015 at 2:24:18 PM EDT > To: "Manners, Derek" > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! > Reply-To: tyler at tysdomain.com > > Hello: > Thanks a lot. I applaud her efforts and wish you luck in your board > position, Kathryn. As I said, I'm not on the board so I don't know > what's been happening; I do know that a position like that takes a lot > of time. > > Also, I don't know if I'd grant you that you're more effective, but > that's a matter for another discussion. I personally prefer an > organization that doesn't dictate how I live my life, but I don't want > to discount any work from either organization as we're all making > progress in one way or another. > >> On 7/1/2015 2:08 PM, Manners, Derek wrote: >> Tyler, as a NABS board member I can tell you that Kate has been >> more than accessible to the Board and worked with us on a number >> of endeavours. She has collected the most TEACH Act testimonials >> of any student on or off the board. She has done research on 25 of >> the largest companies in the United States to identify grants and >> donations policies at these institutions. She has attended every >> Presidents' Call, almost every membership call, and has a good >> working relationship with many of us on the Board. We don't hand >> out MVP trophies but if we did, she would get my vote for MVP for >> NABS and that is why I'm supporting her for the board. >> >> As to your point about Kate being busy, I concur. She is >> tremendously busy. That makes her dedication and tireless work for >> the Federation all the more impressive. Furthermore, she has >> leveraged the relationships that her business fosters to get a >> letter from her University urging passage of the TEACH Act. This >> is something no other student has been able to do as of yet >> (although we at Harvard are close). >> >> Finally, she has resigned her position with ACB several months ago >> because she realizes that what we do in the Federation is more >> affective at helping our community live the lives we want. >> >> Best regards Derek Manners Rising 3L Harvard Law School Editor in >> Chief of the Harvard Human Rights Journal Summer Legal Associate at >> Allen and Overy Part time Legal Associate at the Connecticut >> Attorney General's Office 1st Vice President of the Massachusetts >> Association of Blind Students NABS Board Member >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l >> > wrote: >> >> Hello Kathryn, I only want to raise one issue because I know you >> are incredibly busy. Until recently your email had listed 4 or 5 >> different positions in your signature. Also having worked with you, >> I know you were in a pretty tight time crunch when it came to >> serving on the ACBS board, which left us unable to draw on your >> experience. >> >> - From what I've seen and heard, the NABS board takes a lot of >> dedication and work. It is afterall a really big organization. >> Though I'm not on the board or not really a member, I just wanted >> to point some of this out, in the hopes that it will somehow be >> helpful. >> >> Thanks, On 7/1/2015 12:26 PM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: >>> Good afternoon Federation family! >> >>> Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce >>> myself. My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at >>> Wake Forest University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double >>> major in Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a >>> minor in Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging >>> out with friends. >> >>> In under one week, we will gather together as students at the >>> annual Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind >>> Students. I am eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS >>> Board! >> >>> As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind >>> Students, I have been able to work with various students across >>> diverse backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have >>> revitalized our web site, created new fund-raising initiatives, >>> and held a second student seminar in addition to the North >>> Carolina State Convention. >> >>> Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current >>> NABS Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am >>> passionate about advocating for equal access to education >>> through legislative activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising >>> Committee, I have helped plan the upcoming Penny Wars >>> Fund-Raiser, as well as strategize various ways in which we can >>> move forward with gaining funds. One of these ideas is grant >>> writing, and we are hopeful that our organization will increase >>> funding for future initiatives. I have learned that financial >>> support is vital in nearly everything we do. As State >>> Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s first BELL >>> Program seven months in advance. I hope to take the skills I >>> acquired through this experience to increase funds for NABS’ >>> initiatives. >> >>> I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind >>> Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students >>> of today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for >>> students to have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with >>> school, or rely on a group of dedicated individuals when they >>> need guidance but cannot find that support. I want to be a leader >>> of an organization that has already helped me so much. I am >>> passionate, hard-working, thoughtful, and ambitious. I believe >>> that I have the experience necessary to take on this position. >> >>> NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring >>> multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our >>> efforts, while providing new ideas for the coming year. >> >>> Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job >>> with NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working >>> alongside her by updating our web site regularly. Student >>> division presidents should genuinely want to update us, and I am >>> enthusiastic about fostering that connection and building >>> communication among our states. Furthermore, social media is so >>> pertinent now, and I hope to incorporate Twitter and Facebook >>> into our Communications Committee. >> >>> Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of >>> potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully >>> increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those >>> interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on >>> account of personal finances. I know I have been in that >>> position, and we should work to increase student participation >>> since two of the huge initiatives are highly relevant to us as >>> students. >> >>> Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome >>> everyone into our movement, while providing them with >>> encouragement, friendship, and resources. Building relationships >>> with colleges and universities is a great way of doing just that. >>> I helped both the Connecticut and North Carolina student >>> divisions compile a bulk list of both public and private >>> institutions in these states. By creating a relationship with >>> Disability Services, we can build that connection and strengthen >>> our national participation. >> >>> Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is >>> why I’m asking for your support. I am running for the NABS Board >>> because I believe in our cause and believe in blind students >>> nationwide. I hope you will consider voting for me next week at >>> our Business Meeting. >> >>> Thank you! Kathryn Webster (203) 273-8463 >>> kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing >>> list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To >>> unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for nabs-l: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > >> >> _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing >> list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To >> unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu > > - -- > Take care, > Ty > twitter: @sorressean > web:http://tysdomain.com > pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVlDBSAAoJEAdP60+BYxejaU4H/2gQ6oDkyEA/cKNw4sVWxI6p > m4PwkAR2hxYPqU7TAvDP1m/8YkOJfoWq9jx8ZHIFRuJYSeM8q+Y4UTdnyt4R6cB4 > 3m21Y31iJ0MhtQMpiVhhGJWtcvGpXGeGMWokzG0wiVY7hsAaLayUFKPimWGkyCIz > NhQUUw5/2Qfz5FDvFj63++MnZlDWt64N4wGM9a1BNPtTSeO3qy/sZov/OmEmixlS > 2XnBAq7OiiXFVY739mghxRWWjYFPCUICrWqHfCmi+zUNN22ye0I2UN32rwNTSu31 > kvwsfsjsZ1wAFyqTCW+CkS9dGvUgpYzyKVz3jXTTn8QMJKFNwmj6/hoHS+6CsY4= > =POg6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dlawless86 at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 05:20:37 2015 From: dlawless86 at gmail.com (Domonique Lawless) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 00:20:37 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking advice from a blind mechanic Message-ID: Please respons to e-mail address in the message, not this list. Dave Hi David, Would you mind passing this along to the appropriate lists? Thanks, Domonique Dear friends, A friend of mine is exploring various job possibilities. One of the careers this person is interested in is as a mechanic. Right now, my friend does not know what alternative techniques a blind mechanic uses to successfully and safely complete this job. If you are a blind mechanic, or know a blind mechanic please email me at dlawless86 at gmail.com with the subject blind mechanic. My friend is looking for the answers to the following questions: 1. How did you become a mechanic? If you had to take any courses, how accessible were they? 2. How do you access the individual computers required to fix the electronic components of many modern vehicles? 3. What alternative techniques do you use to efficiently and safely do your job? Any advice you could pass along would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Domonique dlawless86 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From jim.hulme at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 07:12:32 2015 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:12:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] nemeth tutorial for braillente apex In-Reply-To: <559492eb.a5f8420a.4e15.ffffa096@mx.google.com> References: <559492eb.a5f8420a.4e15.ffffa096@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Nemeth tutorial Hi Petras, You will need the latest version of Adobe to read this file. HTH James Hulme jim.hulme at gmail.com On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM, petras via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, can some body give me the nemeth tutorial file for the braillenote > apex? I accedently deleted the folder. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From Vyingling at nfb.org Thu Jul 2 12:36:16 2015 From: Vyingling at nfb.org (Yingling, Valerie) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:36:16 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] =?windows-1252?q?Self-advocacy_in_Higher_Education_Works?= =?windows-1252?q?hop_at_this_Year=92s_Convention?= Message-ID: Hello, NABS! Mark your calendars to attend the Self-advocacy in Higher Education Workshop at this year’s convention on Wednesday, July 8th, from 6:00-7:30pm in Salon 5, level 2. The NFB Legal and Advocacy and Policy Departments are co-sponsoring this informative workshop, geared towards current or soon-to-be college and graduate students, parents of students, and state affiliate leadership. Topics will cover related disability rights laws, best practices for ensuring an accessible college experience, and how state affiliates can support and promote accessible college campuses. We hope to see you there! Valerie Yingling Paralegal National Federation of the Blind Telephone: (410) 659-9314, extension 2440 E-mail: Vyingling at nfb.org From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 14:39:45 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 10:39:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] nemeth tutorial for braillente apex In-Reply-To: <559492eb.a5f8420a.4e15.ffffa096@mx.google.com> References: <559492eb.a5f8420a.4e15.ffffa096@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <56FB578E-AD11-4BFB-AFD9-749F62DB2FCD@gmail.com> The file can be downloaded from the company's website Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:24 PM, petras via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi, can some body give me the nemeth tutorial file for the braillenote apex? I accedently deleted the folder. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 2 15:08:10 2015 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:08:10 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Greater Baltimore Chapter has items to ease your mind and body at convention Message-ID: > >The Greater Baltimore Chapter of the NFB is selling items that will >ease your mind and body at Convention this year. > > > >Our NFB branded power pack Portable Charger will give you Pease of >mind during the action-packed convention. Now you can have some >extra battery power with you to keep your iPhone and Android Smart >Phones, as well as other small portable devices such as the Victor >Reader Stream and Braille displays, juiced up. The battery has 2200 >mAH capacity, which is enough for a full charge of your iPhone 5S. >The unit measures 3.5 X 1 X 1 and includes a mini USB cable. Only >$15, while supplies last. > > > >And to keep your body or more specifically your lips comfortable, we >have vanilla natural lip balm. These are also NFB branded. Pick up >one for $3 or save and get two for only $5. > > > >We don't have a table in the exhibit hall. But if you haven't >encountered us at convention meetings or in the halls and elevators, >find us in the Maryland delegation. From: "Danielsen, Chris" > > > From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 2 15:39:37 2015 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:39:37 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Looking for Female Roommate Message-ID: > >Subject: Urgent roommate wanted national convention. >From: Alexa 33u > >Woman looking for woman >Roommate wanted for the upcoming national convention in Florida. She >is respectful, tidy, non-smoker, non-snorer, please respond to this >email or Phone 310-968-0114 Name Cindy. >Cheers Sent from my iPhone From rriffle2 at wvup.edu Thu Jul 2 15:48:02 2015 From: rriffle2 at wvup.edu (Ryan Riffle) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:48:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Looking for Female Roommate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thursday, July 2, 2015, David Andrews via nabs-l wrote: > > >> Subject: Urgent roommate wanted national convention. >> From: Alexa 33u >> >> Woman looking for woman >> Roommate wanted for the upcoming national convention in Florida. She is >> respectful, tidy, non-smoker, non-snorer, please respond to this email or >> Phone 310-968-0114 Name Cindy. >> Cheers Sent from my iPhone >> > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rriffle2%40wvup.eduI > am also looking for a roommate > From hbwilliams16 at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 17:28:32 2015 From: hbwilliams16 at gmail.com (Hindley Williams) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:28:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kathryn, I am very pleased to hear that you are running. I think you are a great candidate, and you have a multitude of skills that NABS will benefit from. I look forward to working with you on the NABS Notes, and in other areas as well. Best, Hindley On 7/1/15, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: > Good afternoon Federation family! > > Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce myself. > My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at Wake Forest > University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double major in > Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a minor in > Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging out with > friends. > > In under one week, we will gather together as students at the annual > Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind Students. I am > eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS Board! > > As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students, I > have been able to work with various students across diverse > backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have revitalized our web > site, created new fund-raising initiatives, and held a second student > seminar in addition to the North Carolina State Convention. > > Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current NABS > Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am passionate > about advocating for equal access to education through legislative > activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising Committee, I have helped > plan the upcoming Penny Wars Fund-Raiser, as well as strategize > various ways in which we can move forward with gaining funds. One of > these ideas is grant writing, and we are hopeful that our organization > will increase funding for future initiatives. I have learned that > financial support is vital in nearly everything we do. As State > Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s first BELL Program > seven months in advance. I hope to take the skills I acquired through > this experience to increase funds for NABS’ initiatives. > > I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind > Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students of > today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for students to > have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with school, or rely on > a group of dedicated individuals when they need guidance but cannot > find that support. I want to be a leader of an organization that has > already helped me so much. I am passionate, hard-working, thoughtful, > and ambitious. I believe that I have the experience necessary to take > on this position. > > NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring > multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our efforts, > while providing new ideas for the coming year. > > Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job with > NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working alongside her by > updating our web site regularly. Student division presidents should > genuinely want to update us, and I am enthusiastic about fostering > that connection and building communication among our states. > Furthermore, social media is so pertinent now, and I hope to > incorporate Twitter and Facebook into our Communications Committee. > > Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of > potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully > increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those > interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on account of > personal finances. I know I have been in that position, and we should > work to increase student participation since two of the huge > initiatives are highly relevant to us as students. > > Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome everyone > into our movement, while providing them with encouragement, > friendship, and resources. Building relationships with colleges and > universities is a great way of doing just that. I helped both the > Connecticut and North Carolina student divisions compile a bulk list > of both public and private institutions in these states. By creating a > relationship with Disability Services, we can build that connection > and strengthen our national participation. > > Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is why > I’m asking for your support. > I am running for the NABS Board because I believe in our cause and > believe in blind students nationwide. I hope you will consider voting > for me next week at our Business Meeting. > > Thank you! > Kathryn Webster > (203) 273-8463 > kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hbwilliams16%40gmail.com > -- Hindley Williams Summer Intern National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street Baltimore, Maryland 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2527 hbwilliams16 at gmail.com The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 17:38:12 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:38:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4553BCF3-95B0-4364-9410-03C74F6815B3@gmail.com> Kathryn: I too am very excited to see that you are running for the Board. Anyone who has followed your work over the past few years can clearly see the dedication, enthusiasm, and hard work you bring to all levels of NABS's work. It is with great enthusiasm that I plan to support you on July 6. Thank you for all you do; it's only just begun! Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Hindley Williams via nabs-l wrote: > > Kathryn, > I am very pleased to hear that you are running. I think you are a > great candidate, and you have a multitude of skills that NABS will > benefit from. I look forward to working with you on the NABS Notes, > and in other areas as well. > Best, > Hindley > > >> On 7/1/15, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: >> Good afternoon Federation family! >> >> Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce myself. >> My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at Wake Forest >> University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double major in >> Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a minor in >> Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging out with >> friends. >> >> In under one week, we will gather together as students at the annual >> Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind Students. I am >> eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS Board! >> >> As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students, I >> have been able to work with various students across diverse >> backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have revitalized our web >> site, created new fund-raising initiatives, and held a second student >> seminar in addition to the North Carolina State Convention. >> >> Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current NABS >> Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am passionate >> about advocating for equal access to education through legislative >> activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising Committee, I have helped >> plan the upcoming Penny Wars Fund-Raiser, as well as strategize >> various ways in which we can move forward with gaining funds. One of >> these ideas is grant writing, and we are hopeful that our organization >> will increase funding for future initiatives. I have learned that >> financial support is vital in nearly everything we do. As State >> Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s first BELL Program >> seven months in advance. I hope to take the skills I acquired through >> this experience to increase funds for NABS’ initiatives. >> >> I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind >> Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students of >> today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for students to >> have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with school, or rely on >> a group of dedicated individuals when they need guidance but cannot >> find that support. I want to be a leader of an organization that has >> already helped me so much. I am passionate, hard-working, thoughtful, >> and ambitious. I believe that I have the experience necessary to take >> on this position. >> >> NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring >> multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our efforts, >> while providing new ideas for the coming year. >> >> Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job with >> NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working alongside her by >> updating our web site regularly. Student division presidents should >> genuinely want to update us, and I am enthusiastic about fostering >> that connection and building communication among our states. >> Furthermore, social media is so pertinent now, and I hope to >> incorporate Twitter and Facebook into our Communications Committee. >> >> Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of >> potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully >> increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those >> interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on account of >> personal finances. I know I have been in that position, and we should >> work to increase student participation since two of the huge >> initiatives are highly relevant to us as students. >> >> Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome everyone >> into our movement, while providing them with encouragement, >> friendship, and resources. Building relationships with colleges and >> universities is a great way of doing just that. I helped both the >> Connecticut and North Carolina student divisions compile a bulk list >> of both public and private institutions in these states. By creating a >> relationship with Disability Services, we can build that connection >> and strengthen our national participation. >> >> Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is why >> I’m asking for your support. >> I am running for the NABS Board because I believe in our cause and >> believe in blind students nationwide. I hope you will consider voting >> for me next week at our Business Meeting. >> >> Thank you! >> Kathryn Webster >> (203) 273-8463 >> kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hbwilliams16%40gmail.com > > > -- > Hindley Williams > Summer Intern > National Federation of the Blind > 200 East Wells Street > Baltimore, Maryland 21230 > (410) 659-9314, extension 2527 > hbwilliams16 at gmail.com > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you back > > To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination > Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From gpaikens at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 19:33:52 2015 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 15:33:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Volunteer opportunity with Empowerment Through Integration Message-ID: <7A389729-9808-46EF-AC7F-88F246CDD620@gmail.com> Dear NABS, I want to let you know of a volunteer opportunity some of you may be interested in. Empowerment Through Integration (ETI), a non profit dedicated to empowering blind youth in developing nations, is actively recruiting volunteers to assist with our programs. To date we have run programs in Lebanon and Nicaragua and plan to eventually expand to other areas as well. For more information about who we are and what we do, please visit our website: www.eti-vision.org We are looking for like-minded individuals who have a positive attitude toward blindness, are passionate about sharing that attitude with others, and are interested in international development. In particular, we are looking for individuals interested in helping develop curricula for summer camp programs, parent seminars, and ongoing social projects; individuals to help manage our social media; and individuals interested in traveling with a team to run our summer camps, parent seminars, and ongoing social projects. We are also looking for individuals who can connect us with the broader blind community, both domestically and internationally. If this sounds like you, please contact me using the info below. ETI will be at the convention next week and we would love to connect with any interested individuals while in Orlando. Even if you will not be at convention, we would love to connect with you. Sincerely, Greg Aikens Program Director Empowerment Through Integration www.ETI-Vision.org Emails: gaikens at eti-vision.org , gpaikens at gmail.com Cell: (404) 444-8661 From kfarrow at colled.msstate.edu Thu Jul 2 21:07:36 2015 From: kfarrow at colled.msstate.edu (Farrow, Kendra) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:07:36 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Calling Outlook users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Julie, I use Outlook 2013, so maybe I can give you some tips. From the inbox you shift tab to get the list of folders where you should find drafts. Once you select it you should use up and down arrows to read, just like the inbox. Shift tab again to go back to the list to find inbox. Let me know if you have any other questions. I also use the calendar. Kendra -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:36 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Julie McGinnity Subject: [nabs-l] Calling Outlook users Hi all, I am learning Outlook as a part of my job. Although it seems to be accessible for the most part, I am finding it clunky with the keyboard. Also, there seem to be so many keystrokes I can't keep track of all of them. The learning process is difficult because I am struggling with the keystrokes and finding things. For example, I still don't know where the drafts go... I read the help topics for Jaws and changed the Jaws settings the way I wanted them. Do any of you who use outlook have any other suggestions? Which keystrokes are the most useful, or do you even use most of them? Do you prefer to use Outlook or some other email client? I think I'm stuck with Outlook, since one of my work tasks is to learn it, but I am interested in email cliants since I have never used one. I look forward to seeing many of you at convention! -- Julie McGinnity National Federation of the Blind of Missouri second vice president, National Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary, Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President graduate, Guiding Eyes for the Blind 2008, 2014 "For we walk by faith, not by sight" 2 Cor. 7 _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kfarrow%40colled.msstate.edu From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 21:50:41 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 17:50:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! In-Reply-To: <4553BCF3-95B0-4364-9410-03C74F6815B3@gmail.com> References: <4553BCF3-95B0-4364-9410-03C74F6815B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <020001d0b511$24d0ce80$6e726b80$@gmail.com> Good evening all, and thank you for your support! Tyler, thank you for bringing up an understandable concern, and one that should most definitely be addressed. I held the position of Treasurer for ACB Students for a time, yet that is in my past. I don't believe that that should dictate my involvement in the NFB stepping forward. Of course, I will not devalue any organization, though I am eager to put forth full effort into the National Federation of the Blind. After increasing my involvement with the NFB and learning from various mentors and students, the Federation appears to be a much better fit for what I am looking for in an organization. I have learned an immense amount in the past year and feel that I am fully committed, prepared, and excited about prioritizing NABS in the future years. I will say, I truly appreciate your concern with the success of NABS, as that is one we all should have. Regardless, I have conversed with current and past board members in regard to the time commitment component of the board positions themselves, and am confident in my capabilities. We are all students, right? I would be lying if I said I've never over extended myself here and there. Either way, this is not one of those times. I am most enthusiastic about advancing, expanding, and strengthening our movement, and I am grateful for what the Federation has provided me thus far. Again, thank you for your concern Tyler. Please feel free to give me a call if you have any additional questions. Everyone, get ready for an unforgettable Convention! TWO MORE DAYS PEOPLE!!! Love, Kathryn Webster -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:38 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! Kathryn: I too am very excited to see that you are running for the Board. Anyone who has followed your work over the past few years can clearly see the dedication, enthusiasm, and hard work you bring to all levels of NABS's work. It is with great enthusiasm that I plan to support you on July 6. Thank you for all you do; it's only just begun! Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Hindley Williams via nabs-l wrote: > > Kathryn, > I am very pleased to hear that you are running. I think you are a > great candidate, and you have a multitude of skills that NABS will > benefit from. I look forward to working with you on the NABS Notes, > and in other areas as well. > Best, > Hindley > > >> On 7/1/15, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: >> Good afternoon Federation family! >> >> Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce myself. >> My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at Wake Forest >> University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double major in >> Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a minor in >> Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging out with >> friends. >> >> In under one week, we will gather together as students at the annual >> Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind Students. I am >> eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS Board! >> >> As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students, I >> have been able to work with various students across diverse >> backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have revitalized our >> web site, created new fund-raising initiatives, and held a second >> student seminar in addition to the North Carolina State Convention. >> >> Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current NABS >> Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am >> passionate about advocating for equal access to education through >> legislative activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising Committee, I >> have helped plan the upcoming Penny Wars Fund-Raiser, as well as >> strategize various ways in which we can move forward with gaining >> funds. One of these ideas is grant writing, and we are hopeful that >> our organization will increase funding for future initiatives. I have >> learned that financial support is vital in nearly everything we do. >> As State Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s first BELL >> Program seven months in advance. I hope to take the skills I acquired >> through this experience to increase funds for NABS’ initiatives. >> >> I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind >> Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students of >> today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for students to >> have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with school, or rely on >> a group of dedicated individuals when they need guidance but cannot >> find that support. I want to be a leader of an organization that has >> already helped me so much. I am passionate, hard-working, thoughtful, >> and ambitious. I believe that I have the experience necessary to take >> on this position. >> >> NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring >> multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our efforts, >> while providing new ideas for the coming year. >> >> Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job with >> NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working alongside her >> by updating our web site regularly. Student division presidents >> should genuinely want to update us, and I am enthusiastic about >> fostering that connection and building communication among our states. >> Furthermore, social media is so pertinent now, and I hope to >> incorporate Twitter and Facebook into our Communications Committee. >> >> Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of >> potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully >> increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those >> interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on account of >> personal finances. I know I have been in that position, and we should >> work to increase student participation since two of the huge >> initiatives are highly relevant to us as students. >> >> Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome everyone >> into our movement, while providing them with encouragement, >> friendship, and resources. Building relationships with colleges and >> universities is a great way of doing just that. I helped both the >> Connecticut and North Carolina student divisions compile a bulk list >> of both public and private institutions in these states. By creating >> a relationship with Disability Services, we can build that connection >> and strengthen our national participation. >> >> Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is why >> I’m asking for your support. >> I am running for the NABS Board because I believe in our cause and >> believe in blind students nationwide. I hope you will consider voting >> for me next week at our Business Meeting. >> >> Thank you! >> Kathryn Webster >> (203) 273-8463 >> kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hbwilliams16%40gm >> ail.com > > > -- > Hindley Williams > Summer Intern > National Federation of the Blind > 200 East Wells Street > Baltimore, Maryland 21230 > (410) 659-9314, extension 2527 > hbwilliams16 at gmail.com > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you back > > To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination > Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com From jim.hulme at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 22:10:05 2015 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:10:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Calling Outlook users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use Outlook 2010 with Zoom Text 10.1 and NVDA. Perhaps I might be ablke to assist you with your PC conflicts. James Hulme Long-time member of NFB of New Jersey jim.hulme at gmail.com On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Farrow, Kendra via nabs-l wrote: > Hi Julie, > > I use Outlook 2013, so maybe I can give you some tips. From the inbox you > shift tab to get the list of folders where you should find drafts. Once you > select it you should use up and down arrows to read, just like the inbox. > Shift tab again to go back to the list to find inbox. Let me know if you > have any other questions. I also use the calendar. > > Kendra > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie > McGinnity via nabs-l > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:36 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Julie McGinnity > Subject: [nabs-l] Calling Outlook users > > Hi all, > > I am learning Outlook as a part of my job. Although it seems to be > accessible for the most part, I am finding it clunky with the keyboard. > Also, there seem to be so many keystrokes I can't keep track of all of > them. The learning process is difficult because I am struggling with the > keystrokes and finding things. For example, I still don't know where the > drafts go... > > I read the help topics for Jaws and changed the Jaws settings the way I > wanted them. Do any of you who use outlook have any other suggestions? > Which keystrokes are the most useful, or do you even use most of them? Do > you prefer to use Outlook or some other email client? I think I'm stuck > with Outlook, since one of my work tasks is to learn it, but I am > interested in email cliants since I have never used one. > > I look forward to seeing many of you at convention! > > > -- > Julie McGinnity > National Federation of the Blind of Missouri second vice president, > National Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary, > Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President graduate, Guiding Eyes > for the Blind 2008, 2014 "For we walk by faith, not by sight" > 2 Cor. 7 > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kfarrow%40colled.msstate.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From zumbagecko at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 23:50:25 2015 From: zumbagecko at gmail.com (petras) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:50:25 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] upding jambox software Message-ID: <5595ce42.e591420a.58d2e.3103@mx.google.com> Hi, I will be getting a new jambox after the nfb convention. How do I do a software update using jaws? From bluezinfandel at hotmail.com Fri Jul 3 02:55:36 2015 From: bluezinfandel at hotmail.com (Ben Fulton) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 20:55:36 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] learning outlook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Katie, Do you use Dragon. I learned jaws fairly quickly and use the key stokes but have heard many good things about Dragon. If anyone else knows about using Dragon with outlook please feel free to chime in. Happily yours, Ben Fulton From jim.hulme at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 03:00:58 2015 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 23:00:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] learning outlook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Ben, I have no experience w/ Dragon, but I use Outlook 2010. Here is a usable doc you might find interesting. http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/connect/resources/dragonspeak/Outlook%20Cheat%20Sheet.pdf HTH James Hulme jim.hulme at gmail.com On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Ben Fulton via nabs-l wrote: > Hi Katie, > > Do you use Dragon. I learned jaws fairly quickly and use the key stokes > but have heard many good things about Dragon. If anyone else knows about > using Dragon with outlook please feel free to chime in. > > Happily yours, > Ben Fulton > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From nabs.president at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 04:32:01 2015 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Sean Whalen) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 00:32:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS at Convention and Win an iPad without Buying a Raffle Ticket! Message-ID: <00c301d0b549$35dcd790$a19686b0$@gmail.com> Good evening NABS, The 75th anniversary convention of the National Federation of the Blind is upon us, and the National Association of Blind students (NABS) is excited to celebrate this milestone! NABS has three events at convention of which I would like to make all of you aware, and in which I would like to request your participation: #1 NABS Annual Business meeting On Monday July 6, NABS will be holding our annual business meeting in Junior Ballroom F, located on the first level of the Rosen Centre. Registration will open at 6:00pm, and the gavel will drop at 7:00pm sharp, kicking off what promises to be an informative and energizing meeting! But wait, before the meeting deets, didn't somebody say something about an iPad? Yes, indeed we did. Thanks to the generosity of Learning Ally, NABS will be opening our meeting by giving away an iPad with use kit, including head phones and an external speaker. And, no. You don't need to buy a raffle ticket. This is a door prize! That is correct. All you need to do to have your shot at this sweet piece of Apple tech is to be registered and in the ballroom when the meeting starts at 7:00. Want more good news? If you are through the line, registered, and in the ballroom by 6:30, your name will be double entered in the door prize pool. I wasn't a math major, but those sound like favorable odds to me. So come early, beat the chaotic lines, and maximize your chances of walking away with the iPad, cash, or other great prizes. And, while we're on the subject of beating chaotic lines, don't forget that you can save yourself the trouble of providing your contact information by preregistering for the meeting right here: http://nabslink.org/events/2015-annual-meeting. Lest you think that the iPad is the only reason to come out and spend your evening with NABS, let me provide a preview of the killer content at this year's meeting. We'll have students talking about studying and interning abroad, and building strong state student divisions. We'll have presentations on legislative efforts to ensure that blind students have accessible instructional materials in higher education, and ongoing legal action to make the promise of laws that mandate equal access a reality. We'll be hearing from true experts in the fields of accessible math and graphics and accessibility of collaboration software. And, of course, Mr. Mark Riccobono will be addressing and inspiring attendees for the first time as the President of the National Federation of the blind. There will be numerous additional presentations of interest to all Federationists. Check the agenda out, it's attached! We'll also be holding elections. So, come on out! And, in case you can't make it to Orlando, stay tuned. Technology permitting, we will be streaming the meeting at the following link: http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php Big thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing the stream. More details will be distributed closer to the meeting date. #2 Monte Carlo Night You know it, you love it, and it is back again! From 8:00pm to 11:30pm on Wednesday July 8, NABS is giving you the chance to play blackjack, hold'em, and other card games to win cash prizes of $100, $75, and $50 for the top three chip-holders at the end of the night. The action will be in Salon 9, on the second level of the hotel. There will be a cash bar available. So drop in before or after the ball, or come for the whole thing to play cards, chat with old friends, and meet some new ones. #3 Penny Wars and Exhibit Hall You won't want to miss our first ever Penny Wars fundraiser! Get ready for some competition between five proud national divisions: the Lawyers, Merchants, Parents, Performing Arts, and Travelers. Stop by table B25 in the Exhibit Hall to throw some silver into the divisions you love most, while negatively contributing to those you want to see defeated by dropping the copper. Silver coins and dollars add lots of points to the buckets, while pennies subtract five points for each. The winning division will take home 50% of the total raised, while NABS takes the other half. Come by, bring your friends, and join us as we have exciting and competitive fun! And even if you don't have cash to drop, we are always eager to speak with students and Federationists about issues impacting blind students and the work of NABS. I look forward to meeting and reconnecting with many of you in Orlando! Please do not hesitate to be in touch with any questions, concerns, or suggestions. Sean Whalen President, National Association of Blind Students Nabs.president at gmail.com @NABSLink -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Sean Building Bridges and Breaking down Barriers National Association of Blind Students A Division of the National Federation of the Blind Annual Seminar and Business Meeting July 6, 2015 7:00 Welcome and Call to Order - Sean Whalen, President, National Association of Blind Students 7:05 A Message from Our President - Mark Riccobono, President, National Federation of the Blind 7:20 Meet the Class of 2015 Part I - Patti Gregory-Chang, Chair, NFB Scholarship Committee 7:35 Blind abroad: The three most useful characteristics that helped me in Latin America - Justin Harford, Mobility International USA 7:45 An Introduction to Accessible Math and Graphics - John Gardner, President, ViewPlus 8:00 Visual Interpreter using Google Glass - Suman Kanuganti, CEO, Aira Tech Corp and Michael Hingson, President, Michael Hingson Group 8:05 Why I'm in NABS and Why Stepping up Matters - Karen Anderson, 1st Vice President, National Association of Blind Students 8:15 Meet the Class of 2015 Part II - Patti Gregory-Chang, Chair, NFB Scholarship Committee 8:25 Mentoring Matters - Mary Alexander, National Director, Initiatives for the Blind, Learning Ally 8:35 What Can I Do?: NABS Update - Sean Whalen, President, National Association of Blind Students 8:50 The Long Arm of the Law: NFB's Work to Ensure an Equal Education for Blind Students - Mehgan Sidhu, General Counsel and Valerie Yingling, Paralegal, National Federation of the Blind 9:00 TEACH to SMART: Our Journey toward Achieving Accessibility in Higher Education - Gabe Cazares, Government Affairs Specialist, National Federation of the Blind; 2nd Vice President, National Association of Blind Students 9:10 How Diversifying Technology Proficiencies Can Ease Problem Solving and Collaborating - Cindy Bennett, 1st Year Ph.D. Student in Human Centered Design and Engineering, University of Washington 9:20 Have You Considered Entrepreneurial Opportunities in Randolph-Sheppard?: Maybe You Should - Jesse Hartle, Rehabilitation Services Administration, United States Department of Education 9:25 The PAC Attack is Back - Scott LaBarre, Chair, PAC Committee; President, National Federation of the Blind of Colorado 9:30 Revitalizing the Massachusetts Student Division - Derek Manners, 1st Vice President, Massachusetts Association of Blind Students; Board Member, National Association of Blind Students 9:40 Announcements 9:55 Elections 10:30 Adjourn From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 04:51:45 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 00:51:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] learning outlook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dragon is voice dictation software, isn't it? On 7/2/15, James Hulme via nabs-l wrote: > Hello Ben, > > I have no experience w/ Dragon, but I use Outlook 2010. > > Here is a usable doc you might find interesting. > > http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/connect/resources/dragonspeak/Outlook%20Cheat%20Sheet.pdf > > > HTH > > James Hulme > jim.hulme at gmail.com > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Ben Fulton via nabs-l > wrote: > >> Hi Katie, >> >> Do you use Dragon. I learned jaws fairly quickly and use the key stokes >> but have heard many good things about Dragon. If anyone else knows about >> using Dragon with outlook please feel free to chime in. >> >> Happily yours, >> Ben Fulton >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti From jim.hulme at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 04:57:07 2015 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 00:57:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] learning outlook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes Kaiti that is correct. sold by Nuance Communications. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > Dragon is voice dictation software, isn't it? > > On 7/2/15, James Hulme via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello Ben, > > > > I have no experience w/ Dragon, but I use Outlook 2010. > > > > Here is a usable doc you might find interesting. > > > > > http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/connect/resources/dragonspeak/Outlook%20Cheat%20Sheet.pdf > > > > > > HTH > > > > James Hulme > > jim.hulme at gmail.com > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Ben Fulton via nabs-l < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Katie, > >> > >> Do you use Dragon. I learned jaws fairly quickly and use the key stokes > >> but have heard many good things about Dragon. If anyone else knows > about > >> using Dragon with outlook please feel free to chime in. > >> > >> Happily yours, > >> Ben Fulton > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list > >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >> nabs-l: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > nabs-l: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > > > > > -- > Kaiti > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From mnflammia86 at aol.com Fri Jul 3 12:57:29 2015 From: mnflammia86 at aol.com (=?utf-8?B?bW5mbGFtbWlhODZAYW9sLmNvbQ==?=) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 08:57:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] =?utf-8?q?Anatomy_and_Physiology_Questions?= Message-ID: Hi there. I have been a lurker on this mailing list, and so far all that I have read has been a great help. I hope that I have done this email correctly, and it gets sent! I am curious if anyone has taken Anatomy and physiology with the lab? If so, what kind of accommodations helped the best? My college isn't one that suggests accommodations, so I am in the dark. Greetings, Melissa From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 14:24:04 2015 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 10:24:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS at Convention and Win an iPad without Buying a Raffle Ticket! In-Reply-To: <00c301d0b549$35dcd790$a19686b0$@gmail.com> References: <00c301d0b549$35dcd790$a19686b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <037E5A4F-7BF4-4888-9943-45C8D602BC00@gmail.com> When I try to preregister for the meeting, I am given a fatal error on the website. Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio Email: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Phone: 937-733-0525 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian proverb > On Jul 3, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Sean Whalen via nabs-l wrote: > > Good evening NABS, > > > > The 75th anniversary convention of the National Federation of the Blind is > upon us, and the National Association of Blind students (NABS) is excited to > celebrate this milestone! > > > > NABS has three events at convention of which I would like to make all of you > aware, and in which I would like to request your participation: > > > > #1 NABS Annual Business meeting > > > > On Monday July 6, NABS will be holding our annual business meeting in Junior > Ballroom F, located on the first level of the Rosen Centre. Registration > will open at 6:00pm, and the gavel will drop at 7:00pm sharp, kicking off > what promises to be an informative and energizing meeting! But wait, before > the meeting deets, didn't somebody say something about an iPad? Yes, indeed > we did. Thanks to the generosity of Learning Ally, NABS will be opening our > meeting by giving away an iPad with use kit, including head phones and an > external speaker. And, no. You don't need to buy a raffle ticket. This is a > door prize! That is correct. All you need to do to have your shot at this > sweet piece of Apple tech is to be registered and in the ballroom when the > meeting starts at 7:00. Want more good news? If you are through the line, > registered, and in the ballroom by 6:30, your name will be double entered in > the door prize pool. I wasn't a math major, but those sound like favorable > odds to me. So come early, beat the chaotic lines, and maximize your chances > of walking away with the iPad, cash, or other great prizes. And, while we're > on the subject of beating chaotic lines, don't forget that you can save > yourself the trouble of providing your contact information by preregistering > for the meeting right here: > > http://nabslink.org/events/2015-annual-meeting. > > > > Lest you think that the iPad is the only reason to come out and spend your > evening with NABS, let me provide a preview of the killer content at this > year's meeting. We'll have students talking about studying and interning > abroad, and building strong state student divisions. We'll have > presentations on legislative efforts to ensure that blind students have > accessible instructional materials in higher education, and ongoing legal > action to make the promise of laws that mandate equal access a reality. > We'll be hearing from true experts in the fields of accessible math and > graphics and accessibility of collaboration software. And, of course, Mr. > Mark Riccobono will be addressing and inspiring attendees for the first time > as the President of the National Federation of the blind. There will be > numerous additional presentations of interest to all Federationists. Check > the agenda out, it's attached! We'll also be holding elections. So, come on > out! And, in case you can't make it to Orlando, stay tuned. Technology > permitting, we will be streaming the meeting at the following link: > > http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php > > Big thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing > the stream. More details will be distributed closer to the meeting date. > > > > #2 Monte Carlo Night > > > > You know it, you love it, and it is back again! From 8:00pm to 11:30pm on > Wednesday July 8, NABS is giving you the chance to play blackjack, hold'em, > and other card games to win cash prizes of $100, $75, and $50 for the top > three chip-holders at the end of the night. The action will be in Salon 9, > on the second level of the hotel. There will be a cash bar available. So > drop in before or after the ball, or come for the whole thing to play cards, > chat with old friends, and meet some new ones. > > > > #3 Penny Wars and Exhibit Hall > > > > You won't want to miss our first ever Penny Wars fundraiser! > Get ready for some competition between five proud national divisions: the > Lawyers, Merchants, Parents, Performing Arts, and Travelers. Stop by table > B25 in the Exhibit Hall to throw some silver into the divisions you love > most, while negatively contributing to those you want to see defeated by > dropping the copper. Silver coins and dollars add lots of points to the > buckets, while pennies subtract five points for each. The winning division > will take home 50% of the total raised, while NABS takes the other half. > Come by, bring your friends, and join us as we have exciting and competitive > fun! And even if you don't have cash to drop, we are always eager to speak > with students and Federationists about issues impacting blind students and > the work of NABS. > > > > I look forward to meeting and reconnecting with many of you in Orlando! > Please do not hesitate to be in touch with any questions, concerns, or > suggestions. > > > > Sean Whalen > > President, National Association of Blind Students > > Nabs.president at gmail.com > > @NABSLink > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 15:58:09 2015 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 11:58:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando Message-ID: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> Hello everyone, I would like to know if anyone has suggestions on getting from the airport (Orlando Sanford) to the Rosen Center? I have looked into Mears and SuperShuttle and they are both out of my price range. And, my paperwork for pair transit wasn't processed in time. Also, if anyone else is flying into this airport I would be extremely interested in sharing transportation and splitting the costs. Thank you for any suggestions! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 http://bobbialpompey.webs.com From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Fri Jul 3 16:45:52 2015 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 16:45:52 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando In-Reply-To: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> References: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bobbi, I am sorry to hear that those are out of your price range. I usually plan for that cost to exist and either take the shuttle with convention rates or group up for a cab. I encourage you to try to find people who are arriving or departing at about the same time as you are, and share rides with them. It will be hard to get down to $10 per person, which is why I often take the $16 one-way or $28 roundtrip SuperShuttle (in this case) option. Good luck finding people on your travel schedule! Justin Justin Salisbury - Running Thunder Phoenix Graduate Student Professional Development and Research Institute on Blindness Louisiana Tech University Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu Twitter: @SalisburyJustin First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. Martin Niemöller -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 AM To: Association of Blind Students mailing list National Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando Hello everyone, I would like to know if anyone has suggestions on getting from the airport (Orlando Sanford) to the Rosen Center? I have looked into Mears and SuperShuttle and they are both out of my price range. And, my paperwork for pair transit wasn't processed in time. Also, if anyone else is flying into this airport I would be extremely interested in sharing transportation and splitting the costs. Thank you for any suggestions! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 http://bobbialpompey.webs.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From zdreicer at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 16:46:41 2015 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 10:46:41 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando In-Reply-To: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> References: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <362B7ECB-B7EF-4654-BD93-4195D2B4FC57@gmail.com> +42 goes from the airport every half hour on Saturday and every hour on Sunday, the Chicago affiliate sent me this information. I will be taking that bus. If you would like me to give you a call or forward the email let me know. Sent from my iPhone 6 Using VoiceOver > On Jul 3, 2015, at 09:58, Bobbi Pompey via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I would like to know if anyone has suggestions on getting from the airport (Orlando Sanford) to the Rosen Center? I have looked into Mears and SuperShuttle and they are both out of my price range. And, my paperwork for pair transit wasn't processed in time. > > Also, if anyone else is flying into this airport I would be extremely interested in sharing transportation and splitting the costs. > > Thank you for any suggestions! > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > http://bobbialpompey.webs.com > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From hope.paulos at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 16:49:25 2015 From: hope.paulos at gmail.com (Hope Paulos) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 12:49:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando In-Reply-To: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> References: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <68360B58-B0F4-40CF-B336-641747A4DE06@gmail.com> Hello Bobbi. It's nice to hear that someone is also coming from Orlando Sanford. I am coming from there, and going to the Rosen Plaza Hotel, but I am using paratransit… I don't know if I can have guests, as I am a guest myself… I am hoping someone will offer some assistance! I can go ahead and callparatransit if you want me to to see if we could share a ride. Hope Paulos > On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Bobbi Pompey via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I would like to know if anyone has suggestions on getting from the airport (Orlando Sanford) to the Rosen Center? I have looked into Mears and SuperShuttle and they are both out of my price range. And, my paperwork for pair transit wasn't processed in time. > > Also, if anyone else is flying into this airport I would be extremely interested in sharing transportation and splitting the costs. > > Thank you for any suggestions! > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > http://bobbialpompey.webs.com > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com From dsmithnfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 17:02:34 2015 From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 10:02:34 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] You are invited! NFB Community Service Division. Message-ID: Hey NABS, Just wanted to pass along info about the Community Service Division Meeting taking place on Tuesday of the convention. all are welcome! if you have any questions, comments ,etc or might want to get together (crazy schedules permitting) I can be reached at (415)215-9809 or on twitter at @goldengateace. below is division meeting info: ( Fellow Federationists, Do you believe in the impact community service and volunteerism have on individuals and communities? Do you believe that our society only stands to benefit when all of its members are included, engaged, and appreciated? Do you desire to be around like-minded individuals who believe in the true integration of the blind on the basis of equality in society and service? Then we, the Community Service Division of the National Federation of the Blind, would like to invite you to our first annual seminar and business meeting. Join your Federation family on Tuesday evening, July 7 from 6:15-10 pm for an evening filled with thought-provoking presentations, inspiring speeches, and the unveiling of a special project we’ve been working on for our Federation family. The meeting will take place in Salon 7, Level 2 ! . From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Fri Jul 3 17:37:30 2015 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:37:30 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! In-Reply-To: <020001d0b511$24d0ce80$6e726b80$@gmail.com> References: <4553BCF3-95B0-4364-9410-03C74F6815B3@gmail.com> <020001d0b511$24d0ce80$6e726b80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Kate, I'm going to write to you on this thread, and everyone else gets to read it, too. I think it speaks volumes that you tried out the ACB and NFB and, after learning about the two, made the same decision I did. It shows that the National Federation of the Blind was something that you actually chose rather than something that you just stumbled into. At least on paper, you and I have followed similar paths, but you have done so with greater speed than I have. It is possible for those of us who have not climbed with such speed to see you as a threat, and I'll admit that I feel that way about people like you sometimes. In your case, I ask myself if Dr. tenBroek and Dr. Jernigan were looking down from Heaven and watching what you have done and intend to do, would they be pleased? I never met either of them in person, but, from listening to their speeches and recorded works, I feel like I do know them. I also feel like they knew me, even before I was born. So, as I evaluate you as a candidate, I ask myself about that. As long as it's a yes, then I'd want to have you on the board. Some people are just negative. They would be whether you were running for the board or just ordering in front of them at McDonald's. It's just how they are, and most of us see them for what they are. They won't sway voters toward anyone else because they don't like anyone, often including themselves. You do hold an unfathomable number of leadership responsibilities throughout your life, like those in student government at Wake Forest, political organizing, Girl Scouts, and everything else, but you manage to get it all done. As long as you aren't neglecting the Federation, which I haven’t seen you do since I met you last decade, then that's what matters here. As I transition into being a rehab professional, I'm grappling with the realization that it will prevent me from doing a lot of other things in the Federation. As just one example, I don't like the fact that I am not allowed to head to the NABS meeting until 9:00 on that night. Overall, I am glad to know that other people like you will be available to carry the division forward. I have appreciated your willingness to step up time and time again, especially when nobody's looking, and I wish you the best of luck with your campaign. See you in Orlando! Justin Justin Salisbury - Running Thunder Phoenix Graduate Student Professional Development and Research Institute on Blindness Louisiana Tech University Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu Twitter: @SalisburyJustin First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Martin Niemöller -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Webster via nabs-l Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:51 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Kathryn Webster Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! Good evening all, and thank you for your support! Tyler, thank you for bringing up an understandable concern, and one that should most definitely be addressed. I held the position of Treasurer for ACB Students for a time, yet that is in my past. I don't believe that that should dictate my involvement in the NFB stepping forward. Of course, I will not devalue any organization, though I am eager to put forth full effort into the National Federation of the Blind. After increasing my involvement with the NFB and learning from various mentors and students, the Federation appears to be a much better fit for what I am looking for in an organization. I have learned an immense amount in the past year and feel that I am fully committed, prepared, and excited about prioritizing NABS in the future years. I will say, I truly appreciate your concern with the success of NABS, as that is one we all should have. Regardless, I have conversed with current and past board members in regard to the time commitment component of the board positions themselves, and am confident in my capabilities. We are all students, right? I would be lying if I said I've never over extended myself here and there. Either way, this is not one of those times. I am most enthusiastic about advancing, expanding, and strengthening our movement, and I am grateful for what the Federation has provided me thus far. Again, thank you for your concern Tyler. Please feel free to give me a call if you have any additional questions. Everyone, get ready for an unforgettable Convention! TWO MORE DAYS PEOPLE!!! Love, Kathryn Webster -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:38 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I'M RUNNING FOR THE NABS BOARD! Kathryn: I too am very excited to see that you are running for the Board. Anyone who has followed your work over the past few years can clearly see the dedication, enthusiasm, and hard work you bring to all levels of NABS's work. It is with great enthusiasm that I plan to support you on July 6. Thank you for all you do; it's only just begun! Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Hindley Williams via nabs-l wrote: > > Kathryn, > I am very pleased to hear that you are running. I think you are a > great candidate, and you have a multitude of skills that NABS will > benefit from. I look forward to working with you on the NABS Notes, > and in other areas as well. > Best, > Hindley > > >> On 7/1/15, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: >> Good afternoon Federation family! >> >> Before I jump into things, I would like to briefly introduce myself. >> My name is Kathryn Webster, and I am a rising junior at Wake Forest >> University in North Carolina. I am pursuing a double major in >> Mathematical Business and Computer Science, with a minor in >> Statistics. I enjoy traveling, exercising, and hanging out with >> friends. >> >> In under one week, we will gather together as students at the annual >> Business Meeting of the National Association of Blind Students. I am >> eager to gain your support as I run for the NABS Board! >> >> As President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students, I >> have been able to work with various students across diverse >> backgrounds and interests. This past year, we have revitalized our >> web site, created new fund-raising initiatives, and held a second >> student seminar in addition to the North Carolina State Convention. >> >> Prior to Washington Seminar, I worked closely with the current NABS >> Board in order to gather TEACH Act testimonies because I am >> passionate about advocating for equal access to education through >> legislative activity. As a member of the Fund-Raising Committee, I >> have helped plan the upcoming Penny Wars Fund-Raiser, as well as >> strategize various ways in which we can move forward with gaining >> funds. One of these ideas is grant writing, and we are hopeful that >> our organization will increase funding for future initiatives. I have >> learned that financial support is vital in nearly everything we do. >> As State Coordinator, I successfully funded Connecticut’s first BELL >> Program seven months in advance. I hope to take the skills I acquired >> through this experience to increase funds for NABS’ initiatives. >> >> I am running for the Board of the National Association of Blind >> Students because I believe in our efforts. We are the students of >> today, yet the leaders of tomorrow. It is important for students to >> have somewhere to turn when they are stressed with school, or rely on >> a group of dedicated individuals when they need guidance but cannot >> find that support. I want to be a leader of an organization that has >> already helped me so much. I am passionate, hard-working, thoughtful, >> and ambitious. I believe that I have the experience necessary to take >> on this position. >> >> NABS is an exceedingly strong division with members that bring >> multiple perspectives to the table. I want to continue our efforts, >> while providing new ideas for the coming year. >> >> Communication – With Hindley Williams doing such a fabulous job with >> NABS Notes each month, I am eager to continue working alongside her >> by updating our web site regularly. Student division presidents >> should genuinely want to update us, and I am enthusiastic about >> fostering that connection and building communication among our states. >> Furthermore, social media is so pertinent now, and I hope to >> incorporate Twitter and Facebook into our Communications Committee. >> >> Fund-Raising - The fund-raising committee has compiled a list of >> potential donors, and my grant-writing experience will hopefully >> increase funds. I want to create a scholarship fund for those >> interested in attending Washington Seminar, but cannot on account of >> personal finances. I know I have been in that position, and we should >> work to increase student participation since two of the huge >> initiatives are highly relevant to us as students. >> >> Membership – We always want new members! We want to welcome everyone >> into our movement, while providing them with encouragement, >> friendship, and resources. Building relationships with colleges and >> universities is a great way of doing just that. I helped both the >> Connecticut and North Carolina student divisions compile a bulk list >> of both public and private institutions in these states. By creating >> a relationship with Disability Services, we can build that connection >> and strengthen our national participation. >> >> Regardless, I cannot tackle these initiatives alone; and that is why >> I’m asking for your support. >> I am running for the NABS Board because I believe in our cause and >> believe in blind students nationwide. I hope you will consider voting >> for me next week at our Business Meeting. >> >> Thank you! >> Kathryn Webster >> (203) 273-8463 >> kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hbwilliams16%40gm >> ail.com > > > -- > Hindley Williams > Summer Intern > National Federation of the Blind > 200 East Wells Street > Baltimore, Maryland 21230 > (410) 659-9314, extension 2527 > hbwilliams16 at gmail.com > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you back > > To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination > Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 17:56:16 2015 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 13:56:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando In-Reply-To: <68360B58-B0F4-40CF-B336-641747A4DE06@gmail.com> References: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> <68360B58-B0F4-40CF-B336-641747A4DE06@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3028E9E4-E40C-4E3A-AB0B-E826370AA1F5@yahoo.com> Hope, It would be great if you could call them to see if I can join you. I would really appreciate it. Zack, feel free to call, text, or email me about the bus. All of my contact information is below. Justin, the convention rates don't apply for the Orlando Sanforf Airport. So I would spend around $100 each way using SuperShuttle and Mears. Thank you, Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 http://bobbialpompey.webs.com > On Jul 3, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Hope Paulos via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello Bobbi. It's nice to hear that someone is also coming from Orlando Sanford. I am coming from there, and going to the Rosen Plaza Hotel, but I am using paratransit… I don't know if I can have guests, as I am a guest myself… I am hoping someone will offer some assistance! I can go ahead and callparatransit if you want me to to see if we could share a ride. > > Hope Paulos > >> On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Bobbi Pompey via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I would like to know if anyone has suggestions on getting from the airport (Orlando Sanford) to the Rosen Center? I have looked into Mears and SuperShuttle and they are both out of my price range. And, my paperwork for pair transit wasn't processed in time. >> >> Also, if anyone else is flying into this airport I would be extremely interested in sharing transportation and splitting the costs. >> >> Thank you for any suggestions! >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> http://bobbialpompey.webs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 18:13:23 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:13:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando In-Reply-To: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> References: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bobbi: Last year I requested an Uber ride at convention and will do so again this year. It was about $20 each way if I remember correctly. However, if you use a promo code i'm going to your ride will be free. If you would like I can send you mine off list. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Bobbi Pompey via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I would like to know if anyone has suggestions on getting from the airport (Orlando Sanford) to the Rosen Center? I have looked into Mears and SuperShuttle and they are both out of my price range. And, my paperwork for pair transit wasn't processed in time. > > Also, if anyone else is flying into this airport I would be extremely interested in sharing transportation and splitting the costs. > > Thank you for any suggestions! > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > http://bobbialpompey.webs.com > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From mhmdrizvi8 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 20:24:16 2015 From: mhmdrizvi8 at gmail.com (Syed M Rizvi) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 16:24:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Ride to the hotel Message-ID: <9FC00767-3E83-45B9-B783-9E07BE67AC20@gmail.com> Hi everyone! If anyone gets into MCO Orlando around 1pm on Saturday, let me know, we can share a ride. Please reply outside of the list. My number is 413-250-3523, feel free to call or text. My email address is syed.rizvi at WNE.edu Sent from my iPhone From jsoro620 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 20:37:44 2015 From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 16:37:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] DocuScan Plus V3.0 is Hhere and It's Brought Discounts! Message-ID: <007d01d0b5d0$1df75d80$59e61880$@gmail.com> After extensive development and excellent feedback from the community, we're ready to unveil the final release of DocuScan Plus V3.0 for Windows and Mac! Already the most affordable assistive technology OCR package in the industry, we're saving you even more money in the month of July. Keep reading for Details: http://www.serotek.com/blog_docuscan_plus_v3_is_here_and_its_brought_discoun ts -- Musings of a Work in Progress: www.JoeOrozco.com/ Twitter: @ScribblingJoe From dandrews at visi.com Fri Jul 3 20:59:44 2015 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 15:59:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA Remote Add-on Released Message-ID: > > From Christopher Toth ... >Hi there, > >I'm writing to happily inform you that the NVDA Remote Access add-on has >been released! > >After our successful crowdfunding campaign, Tyler and I created >something which we are very proud of, and we can't wait until you get to >use it. > >The add-on, as well as supporting documentation and source code are all >available from the add-on's website: http://NVDARemote.com > > From this point forward, the add-on source code is available for review >and open to contributions from members of the community. > >As one of the first demonstrations of crowdfunded accessibility as a >public good, this entire project has been an incredible success. We were >able to raise the necessary funds, develop the software, and are now >super pleased to release it free and open source for everyone to enjoy. > >Thank you for all you have done to make this awesome day a reality. > > > > >-- >David Goldfield, >Assistive Technology Specialist > >Feel free to visit my Web site >www.davidgoldfield.info > David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 21:15:19 2015 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:15:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Transportation in Orlando In-Reply-To: References: <3A97E6BF-70E9-473F-8183-AC7790AC28FC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B3FE8CA-A10D-469E-9E3C-61D08665F862@yahoo.com> Chris, that would be excellent! You can send it to me off list. Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 http://bobbialpompey.webs.com > On Jul 3, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > > Bobbi: > > Last year I requested an Uber ride at convention and will do so again this year. It was about $20 each way if I remember correctly. However, if you use a promo code i'm going to your ride will be free. If you would like I can send you mine off list. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Bobbi Pompey via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I would like to know if anyone has suggestions on getting from the airport (Orlando Sanford) to the Rosen Center? I have looked into Mears and SuperShuttle and they are both out of my price range. And, my paperwork for pair transit wasn't processed in time. >> >> Also, if anyone else is flying into this airport I would be extremely interested in sharing transportation and splitting the costs. >> >> Thank you for any suggestions! >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> http://bobbialpompey.webs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo.com From nfbcs at nfbnet.org Fri Jul 3 21:38:29 2015 From: nfbcs at nfbnet.org (Rasmussen, Lloyd via nfbcs) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 16:38:29 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] [nfbcs] FW: [program-l] Survey about Barriers in CS Education Message-ID: From: program-l-bounce at freelists.org [mailto:program-l-bounce at freelists.org] On Behalf Of Catherine Baker Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:16 PM To: program-l at freelists.org Subject: [program-l] Survey about Barriers in CS Education Hello, I am a graduate student in Computer Science and Engineering at the University of Washington. My group is interested in creating tools to help blind programmers. In order to better understand the challenges faced by them, I am conducting a survey on the barriers encountered as they learned to program. We would also like to invite some participants to take part in follow-up interviews to expound upon their answers and get more details about the barriers they have faced. You will be able to indicate if you would be willing to participate in the follow-up interviews at the end of the survey. The survey is intended to be completed by adults who have completed an undergraduate degree in computer science or a related field and used a screen reader while completing that degree. If you meet the criteria, are one of the first 100 people to complete the survey answering at least half the questions, and provide your information, you will receive a $5 Amazon gift card. Please note, responses deemed to be spam will not receive compensation. Those who are interviewed as a follow up to the survey will receive a $30 Amazon gift card. The survey should take approximately 15 minutes. The follow-up interview should take approximately an hour. Here is the link to the survey: https://catalyst.uw.edu/webq/survey/cmbaker/260612. The survey will close July 16. Please feel free to forward this to anyone else you know who may be interested in participating in our study. Sincerely, Catherine Baker Computer Science and Engineering University of Washington Paul Allen Center Seattle, WA 98195-2840 From DiamondQuest at nfb.org Fri Jul 3 21:59:14 2015 From: DiamondQuest at nfb.org (Diamond Burlingame) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 21:59:14 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention Newbie Message-ID: Dear List: I'm coming to the convention for the first time this year and I'm looking to network with other blind people and learn more about the organization. If you have time to show a newbie the ropes, call or text me. I look forward to seeing everyone at convention! Rpunz vm Ruvdslknl, Wbggsl Wshfpun Whduz, Johsslunl svcpun Johtwpvuz: ollk tf dvykz. Aol Kphtvuk Xblza pz bwvu fvb! Aol nhbuasla pz aoyvdu ha fvby mlla; aol ypzrz thuf, aol yldhykz wsluapmbs. Qvpu aol jhkyl vm puaylwpk dhyypvyz, msle fvby ruvdslknl vm aol UMI, kltvuzayhal fvby klaljapcl zrpssz huk bulhyao vby wyljpvbz nlt. busvjr fvby mpyza johsslunl if cpzpapun vby zayvunovsk huk npcpun aol nhalrllwly aopz flhy'z ubtily vm zpnupmpjhujl. Yltltily, dolu pu Yvtl, dypal hz aol Yvthuz dvbsk. #UMIKX Safe travels, Diamond Burlingame (203) 364-4263 http://j.mp/1FpTGmI From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 22:03:13 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 18:03:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fellow Connecticutian! Definitely come out to the NABS Social at 8 pm on Sunday in salon 11 level 2! Kathryn :) Kathryn C. Webster (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Diamond Burlingame via nabs-l wrote: > > Dear List: > > I'm coming to the convention for the first time this year and I'm looking to network with other blind people and learn more about the organization. If you have time to show a newbie the ropes, call or text me. I look forward to seeing everyone at convention! > > Rpunz vm Ruvdslknl, Wbggsl Wshfpun Whduz, Johsslunl svcpun Johtwpvuz: ollk tf dvykz. Aol Kphtvuk Xblza pz bwvu fvb! Aol nhbuasla pz aoyvdu ha fvby mlla; aol ypzrz thuf, aol yldhykz wsluapmbs. Qvpu aol jhkyl vm puaylwpk dhyypvyz, msle fvby ruvdslknl vm aol UMI, kltvuzayhal fvby klaljapcl zrpssz huk bulhyao vby wyljpvbz nlt. busvjr fvby mpyza johsslunl if cpzpapun vby zayvunovsk huk npcpun aol nhalrllwly aopz flhy'z ubtily vm zpnupmpjhujl. Yltltily, dolu pu Yvtl, dypal hz aol Yvthuz dvbsk. #UMIKX > > Safe travels, > Diamond Burlingame > (203) 364-4263 > http://j.mp/1FpTGmI > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 23:54:40 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 19:54:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Diamond, You might also want to go to the "Rookie Roundup" if it isn't already on your itinerary for the week. It will be held on Sunday night from 8:00-9:30 PM in Junior Ballroom G. Yes, this does overlap the NABS social a bit, but you can always pop into both and the NABS social will go longer after the rookie roundup if you like it there or strike up conversation. Our president and other Federation leaders will be there to welcome rookies to convention, and they're great people. Also, about that personal itinerary I mentioned... many people find it useful to create a personal schedule of events for the week so they can plan out where they need and want to be. If you haven't done this and would like to you can look through the agenda found at www.nfb.org/convention. Hope this helps, and welcome to convention! This is a great one to be your first! On 7/3/15, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: > Fellow Connecticutian! > Definitely come out to the NABS Social at 8 pm on Sunday in salon 11 level > 2! > Kathryn :) > > > Kathryn C. Webster > (203) 273-8463 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 3, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Diamond Burlingame via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Dear List: >> >> I'm coming to the convention for the first time this year and I'm looking >> to network with other blind people and learn more about the organization. >> If you have time to show a newbie the ropes, call or text me. I look >> forward to seeing everyone at convention! >> >> Rpunz vm Ruvdslknl, Wbggsl Wshfpun Whduz, Johsslunl svcpun Johtwpvuz: ollk >> tf dvykz. Aol Kphtvuk Xblza pz bwvu fvb! Aol nhbuasla pz aoyvdu ha fvby >> mlla; aol ypzrz thuf, aol yldhykz wsluapmbs. Qvpu aol jhkyl vm puaylwpk >> dhyypvyz, msle fvby ruvdslknl vm aol UMI, kltvuzayhal fvby klaljapcl >> zrpssz huk bulhyao vby wyljpvbz nlt. busvjr fvby mpyza johsslunl if >> cpzpapun vby zayvunovsk huk npcpun aol nhalrllwly aopz flhy'z ubtily vm >> zpnupmpjhujl. Yltltily, dolu pu Yvtl, dypal hz aol Yvthuz dvbsk. #UMIKX >> >> Safe travels, >> Diamond Burlingame >> (203) 364-4263 >> http://j.mp/1FpTGmI >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti From zdreicer at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 02:14:09 2015 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 20:14:09 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Public transit information to and from Rosen center References: Message-ID: Hello all, looking forward to seeing everyone in Convention. i'm hoping that this message helps some of you. The bus that our fellow Federationist mentions also runs weekdays and Saturdays. It has relatively the same schedule. See you in Orlando! Sent from my iPhone 6 Using VoiceOver Begin forwarded message: > From: Glenn III > Date: June 26, 2015 at 17:30:21 MDT > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Subject: Fwd: [il-talk] Fwd: shuttle discount > > FYI, I'm forwarding shuttle info below. > > Of course, I'll be taking the Linx public bus #42. It's a 'line style' bus (so it goes from point a to z then reverses back to A, rathern than a continuous loop). > At the airport, where the taxis are, you go outside and turn right, and the buses are at the end of the queue. bus 42 from the airport goes westbound to, and a little past International drive. On Sunday, it leaves from 6:15am up to 9:15pm. > You'll pass the major stops: airport, Sand Lake, Florida Mall, Rio Grand and Oak Ridge intersection, and Orlando Premium Outlet (but if you hear Destination Parkway, you went too far). After Premium Outlet you get off at the stop, International Drive and Hawaiian Court, which is the stop right after International Dr. and convention way. By the way, Hawaiian ct. is the side street that you always cross to go to the block with the walgreens, denny's, red lobster, baskin robins, McDonald's and mini mall--Oh, and the map says Walgreens has a cardtronics atm too. > On Saturday, returning, I plan to catch the same bus eastbound at international drive and Hawaiian ct (same stop, but accross the street since the bus is going back, and further ahead in the direction the bus will be driving). on Saturdays, the schedule says it picks up there as early as 5am to 10pm. > this also is the bus route: http://www.golynx.com/maps-schedules/routes-detail.stml?portalProcess_dd_0_1_1=showPublicPosting&calendar_entry_id=2404 > > -Glenn Moore III > State Secretary, > National Federation of the Blind of Illinois > (find our calendar at nfbofillinois.org/?page_id=158) > nfb.org "Live the Life You Want" > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Patti S. Gregory-Chang Esq via il-talk > Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:23 PM > Subject: [il-talk] Fwd: shuttle discount > To: il-talk il-talk > Cc: "Patti S. Gregory-Chang Esq" > > > > SuperShuttle at convention: > Once again we have a special rate with SuperShuttle in Orlando. The rates are $16.00 for one-way travel and $28 for round-trip travel to the Rosen Centre and the Rosen Plaza. Make reservations on their website athttp://groups.supershuttle.com/nfb75.html to take advantage of the discounted rate. > > > _______________________________________________ > il-talk mailing list > il-talk at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/il-talk_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for il-talk: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/il-talk_nfbnet.org/gmoore3rd%40gmail.com > From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 03:24:17 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 23:24:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Nusbaum for NABS Board Message-ID: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> Dear NABS Family: In a few short days we will gather together in our hundreds to celebrate our past achievements, assess our present progress, and dream for our future-a future full of opportunity, in which blind students can and will be empowered to live the lives we want. We will be inspired by our leaders, informed by our tireless advocates, and entertained by our dynamic speakers. We will also exercise that most fundamental of democratic rights: the right to elect our own leaders, to choose those who will represent us in the halls of power. It is our duty, then, to choose those candidates in whom we believe, as well as those who believe in us. I believe in each member of our organization. I believe that we, working together, have the power to transform dreams into reality. This is why, after much contemplation and consultation with many NABS leaders, I am asking for your vote for the position of NABS Board member. By way of introduction, I am a rising senior at Francis Scott Key High School in Union Bridge, Maryland. A member in good standing of the National Honor Society, I have participated throughout my high school career in many extracurricular activities which have made my character very well-rounded, while keeping my academic efforts at the forefront of my activities. After graduation I plan to receive training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind (LCB) before attending college to become a teacher of blind students. In my spare time I enjoy reading, writing, singing, traveling, hanging out with friends, listening to all types of music, and-most importantly-working with my Federation family to build our movement. Though I have known about the National Federation of the Blind for most of my life, I did not become a contributing member until 2011, when I attended a life-changing program at the Jernigan Institute at which I was inspired by our positive philosophy and introduced to the myriad ways in which I could get involved in our cause. Empowered and excited as I was about our movement, I immersed myself in Federation activity the moment I returned home from this program, and my enthusiasm has never waivered. I currently serve the Federation in many capacities, most importantly as Vice President of the Maryland Association of Blind Students. Through my involvement in MDABS leadership since 2012, I have been able to participate actively in the planning of two student seminars, a variety of fundraisers, and other projects which have built and strengthened our division. Since I joined the Board of our division, we have established and maintained a social media presence on Twitter and Facebook, worked to engage our membership in all aspects of our work, and grown our organization from a virtually unknown division with do-nothing leadership to a vibrant participant in the work of the National Federation of the Blind and our Maryland affiliate. Moreover, we have expanded our membership to include many passionate and energetic middle and high school students, many of whom I was instrumental in recruiting into our movement. This recruitment of the younger generation is a passion of mine which I will bring to my work in NABS. All the while I have remained personally engaged with our members, always ready to answer questions and be of support as I am able. I believe that the best way to lead is through maintaining a productive dialogue with the membership, listening to their ideas and collaborating with them to achieve the best end result. I have tried to live up to this philosophy in my work with the Maryland student division, and will do so at the national level if I am elected. I am running for NABS Board because I believe in our cause, and I am ready to do my part to further us in our journey toward first-class citizenship. The National Federation of the Blind has changed my life, and I am ready to give back that which has been so generously given me. Moreover, I am running because I believe that if NABS is to truly represent all blind students, high school students too should be represented in our leadership. Too often I have met blind high school students who have not yet been touched by our message of hope. They believe that their futures are limited and that blindness is the characteristic that defines them. We must reach out to these students, showing them by our example that blindness need not hold them back. As a member of this generation of students, I feel that I would be the best leader to facilitate this outreach. Finally, I am running because I have found NABS to be lacking in our social media engagement. Through my experience as social media coordinator for the NFB of Maryland as well as a member of our national Public Relations Committee, I plan to work toward fixing this lapse in our leadership. Yes, I am running for a position of national leadership. However, I do not plan to use that title to distance myself from the membership. I want to hear from all of you-your ideas, your suggestions, even your complaints. It is only through constructive dialogue that an organization such as ours can thrive. In that spirit, I would welcome your questions about my candidacy, concerns about NABS, and suggestions of what you would like to see NABS do in the future. In summary, the position of NABS board member is not a meaningless title to be taken lightly; rather, it is a sacred trust which must be honored and kept. I hope that you will trust me enough to elect me as your next Board member. Let us continue to transform dreams into reality together! Yours in the movement, Chris Nusbaum, Vice President Greater Carroll County Chapter National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Sat Jul 4 13:17:28 2015 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:17:28 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Nusbaum for NABS Board In-Reply-To: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> References: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28F1731B-4181-4E02-94C3-1AC243B59A5E@alumni.ecu.edu> Hi Chris, I'm glad to see that you are running. I've seen a lot of promise from you for a long time coming. One thing that I think you really understand is the concept of having an actual personal relationship with people in our national leadership. At least, it appears that way from our past discussions. I encourage you to not forget that component as you move forward. I hope I'm there when it's time to vote! Justin Sent from the iPhone of Justin Salisbury - Running Thunder Phoenix Graduate Student Professional Development and Research Institute on Blindness Louisiana Tech University Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu Twitter: @SalisburyJustin First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Martin Niemöller On Jul 3, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l > wrote: Dear NABS Family: In a few short days we will gather together in our hundreds to celebrate our past achievements, assess our present progress, and dream for our future-a future full of opportunity, in which blind students can and will be empowered to live the lives we want. We will be inspired by our leaders, informed by our tireless advocates, and entertained by our dynamic speakers. We will also exercise that most fundamental of democratic rights: the right to elect our own leaders, to choose those who will represent us in the halls of power. It is our duty, then, to choose those candidates in whom we believe, as well as those who believe in us. I believe in each member of our organization. I believe that we, working together, have the power to transform dreams into reality. This is why, after much contemplation and consultation with many NABS leaders, I am asking for your vote for the position of NABS Board member. By way of introduction, I am a rising senior at Francis Scott Key High School in Union Bridge, Maryland. A member in good standing of the National Honor Society, I have participated throughout my high school career in many extracurricular activities which have made my character very well-rounded, while keeping my academic efforts at the forefront of my activities. After graduation I plan to receive training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind (LCB) before attending college to become a teacher of blind students. In my spare time I enjoy reading, writing, singing, traveling, hanging out with friends, listening to all types of music, and-most importantly-working with my Federation family to build our movement. Though I have known about the National Federation of the Blind for most of my life, I did not become a contributing member until 2011, when I attended a life-changing program at the Jernigan Institute at which I was inspired by our positive philosophy and introduced to the myriad ways in which I could get involved in our cause. Empowered and excited as I was about our movement, I immersed myself in Federation activity the moment I returned home from this program, and my enthusiasm has never waivered. I currently serve the Federation in many capacities, most importantly as Vice President of the Maryland Association of Blind Students. Through my involvement in MDABS leadership since 2012, I have been able to participate actively in the planning of two student seminars, a variety of fundraisers, and other projects which have built and strengthened our division. Since I joined the Board of our division, we have established and maintained a social media presence on Twitter and Facebook, worked to engage our membership in all aspects of our work, and grown our organization from a virtually unknown division with do-nothing leadership to a vibrant participant in the work of the National Federation of the Blind and our Maryland affiliate. Moreover, we have expanded our membership to include many passionate and energetic middle and high school students, many of whom I was instrumental in recruiting into our movement. This recruitment of the younger generation is a passion of mine which I will bring to my work in NABS. All the while I have remained personally engaged with our members, always ready to answer questions and be of support as I am able. I believe that the best way to lead is through maintaining a productive dialogue with the membership, listening to their ideas and collaborating with them to achieve the best end result. I have tried to live up to this philosophy in my work with the Maryland student division, and will do so at the national level if I am elected. I am running for NABS Board because I believe in our cause, and I am ready to do my part to further us in our journey toward first-class citizenship. The National Federation of the Blind has changed my life, and I am ready to give back that which has been so generously given me. Moreover, I am running because I believe that if NABS is to truly represent all blind students, high school students too should be represented in our leadership. Too often I have met blind high school students who have not yet been touched by our message of hope. They believe that their futures are limited and that blindness is the characteristic that defines them. We must reach out to these students, showing them by our example that blindness need not hold them back. As a member of this generation of students, I feel that I would be the best leader to facilitate this outreach. Finally, I am running because I have found NABS to be lacking in our social media engagement. Through my experience as social media coordinator for the NFB of Maryland as well as a member of our national Public Relations Committee, I plan to work toward fixing this lapse in our leadership. Yes, I am running for a position of national leadership. However, I do not plan to use that title to distance myself from the membership. I want to hear from all of you-your ideas, your suggestions, even your complaints. It is only through constructive dialogue that an organization such as ours can thrive. In that spirit, I would welcome your questions about my candidacy, concerns about NABS, and suggestions of what you would like to see NABS do in the future. In summary, the position of NABS board member is not a meaningless title to be taken lightly; rather, it is a sacred trust which must be honored and kept. I hope that you will trust me enough to elect me as your next Board member. Let us continue to transform dreams into reality together! Yours in the movement, Chris Nusbaum, Vice President Greater Carroll County Chapter National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 16:19:15 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 12:19:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Nusbaum for NABS Board In-Reply-To: <28F1731B-4181-4E02-94C3-1AC243B59A5E@alumni.ecu.edu> References: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> <28F1731B-4181-4E02-94C3-1AC243B59A5E@alumni.ecu.edu> Message-ID: <929792AF-E598-4AAD-8A59-D5F8986E6B83@gmail.com> Hi Justin: Thank you very much for your message of support. As you say, I value greatly personal relationships with our national leaders. These leaders were once themselves students; indeed, many of them got their start in Federation leadership as members of the NABS board. We stand to learn much from them and they are willing to teach us. Many of us, myself included, have experienced the life-changing power of positive mentoring in our personal lives. In my view we can and should harness the power of this mentoring in our organizational life as well. While I understand that my close proximity to our national office allows me to have closer personal relationships with our staff than do those who live in other parts of the country. However, this should not deter us from cultivating good lasting relationships with these leaders—they're only a phone call or email away. I appreciate your advocacy in this area. Thank you once again for your support. See you in Orlando! Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Justin Salisbury wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I'm glad to see that you are running. I've seen a lot of promise from you for a long time coming. > > One thing that I think you really understand is the concept of having an actual personal relationship with people in our national leadership. At least, it appears that way from our past discussions. I encourage you to not forget that component as you move forward. > > I hope I'm there when it's time to vote! > > Justin > > Sent from the iPhone of > > Justin Salisbury - Running Thunder Phoenix > Graduate Student > Professional Development and Research Institute on Blindness > Louisiana Tech University > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > Twitter: @SalisburyJustin > > > First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— > Because I was not a Socialist. > > Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— > Because I was not a Trade Unionist. > > Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— > Because I was not a Jew. > > Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. > > Martin Niemöller > > > On Jul 3, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > >> Dear NABS Family: >> >> >> >> In a few short days we will gather together in our hundreds to celebrate our >> past achievements, assess our present progress, and dream for our future-a >> future full of opportunity, in which blind students can and will be >> empowered to live the lives we want. We will be inspired by our leaders, >> informed by our tireless advocates, and entertained by our dynamic speakers. >> We will also exercise that most fundamental of democratic rights: the right >> to elect our own leaders, to choose those who will represent us in the halls >> of power. It is our duty, then, to choose those candidates in whom we >> believe, as well as those who believe in us. I believe in each member of our >> organization. I believe that we, working together, have the power to >> transform dreams into reality. This is why, after much contemplation and >> consultation with many NABS leaders, I am asking for your vote for the >> position of NABS Board member. >> >> >> >> By way of introduction, I am a rising senior at Francis Scott Key High >> School in Union Bridge, Maryland. A member in good standing of the National >> Honor Society, I have participated throughout my high school career in many >> extracurricular activities which have made my character very well-rounded, >> while keeping my academic efforts at the forefront of my activities. After >> graduation I plan to receive training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind >> (LCB) before attending college to become a teacher of blind students. In my >> spare time I enjoy reading, writing, singing, traveling, hanging out with >> friends, listening to all types of music, and-most importantly-working with >> my Federation family to build our movement. >> >> >> >> Though I have known about the National Federation of the Blind for most of >> my life, I did not become a contributing member until 2011, when I attended >> a life-changing program at the Jernigan Institute at which I was inspired by >> our positive philosophy and introduced to the myriad ways in which I could >> get involved in our cause. Empowered and excited as I was about our >> movement, I immersed myself in Federation activity the moment I returned >> home from this program, and my enthusiasm has never waivered. I currently >> serve the Federation in many capacities, most importantly as Vice President >> of the Maryland Association of Blind Students. Through my involvement in >> MDABS leadership since 2012, I have been able to participate actively in the >> planning of two student seminars, a variety of fundraisers, and other >> projects which have built and strengthened our division. Since I joined the >> Board of our division, we have established and maintained a social media >> presence on Twitter and Facebook, worked to engage our membership in all >> aspects of our work, and grown our organization from a virtually unknown >> division with do-nothing leadership to a vibrant participant in the work of >> the National Federation of the Blind and our Maryland affiliate. >> >> >> >> Moreover, we have expanded our membership to include many passionate and >> energetic middle and high school students, many of whom I was instrumental >> in recruiting into our movement. This recruitment of the younger generation >> is a passion of mine which I will bring to my work in NABS. All the while I >> have remained personally engaged with our members, always ready to answer >> questions and be of support as I am able. I believe that the best way to >> lead is through maintaining a productive dialogue with the membership, >> listening to their ideas and collaborating with them to achieve the best end >> result. I have tried to live up to this philosophy in my work with the >> Maryland student division, and will do so at the national level if I am >> elected. >> >> >> >> I am running for NABS Board because I believe in our cause, and I am ready >> to do my part to further us in our journey toward first-class citizenship. >> The National Federation of the Blind has changed my life, and I am ready to >> give back that which has been so generously given me. Moreover, I am running >> because I believe that if NABS is to truly represent all blind students, >> high school students too should be represented in our leadership. Too often >> I have met blind high school students who have not yet been touched by our >> message of hope. They believe that their futures are limited and that >> blindness is the characteristic that defines them. We must reach out to >> these students, showing them by our example that blindness need not hold >> them back. As a member of this generation of students, I feel that I would >> be the best leader to facilitate this outreach. Finally, I am running >> because I have found NABS to be lacking in our social media engagement. >> Through my experience as social media coordinator for the NFB of Maryland as >> well as a member of our national Public Relations Committee, I plan to work >> toward fixing this lapse in our leadership. >> >> >> >> Yes, I am running for a position of national leadership. However, I do not >> plan to use that title to distance myself from the membership. I want to >> hear from all of you-your ideas, your suggestions, even your complaints. It >> is only through constructive dialogue that an organization such as ours can >> thrive. In that spirit, I would welcome your questions about my candidacy, >> concerns about NABS, and suggestions of what you would like to see NABS do >> in the future. In summary, the position of NABS board member is not a >> meaningless title to be taken lightly; rather, it is a sacred trust which >> must be honored and kept. I hope that you will trust me enough to elect me >> as your next Board member. Let us continue to transform dreams into reality >> together! >> >> >> >> Yours in the movement, >> >> >> >> Chris Nusbaum, Vice President >> >> Greater Carroll County Chapter >> >> National Federation of the Blind of Maryland >> >> Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students >> >> Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland >> >> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >> >> Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD >> >> >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From pgradioman at hotmail.com Sat Jul 4 17:47:00 2015 From: pgradioman at hotmail.com (Preston Gaylor) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:47:00 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Nusbaum for NABS Board In-Reply-To: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> References: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Even though that I'm not there to vote, I am still voting for you Chris! You got this!! Good luck to everyone on Monday!! Preston Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > > Dear NABS Family: > > > > In a few short days we will gather together in our hundreds to celebrate our > past achievements, assess our present progress, and dream for our future-a > future full of opportunity, in which blind students can and will be > empowered to live the lives we want. We will be inspired by our leaders, > informed by our tireless advocates, and entertained by our dynamic speakers. > We will also exercise that most fundamental of democratic rights: the right > to elect our own leaders, to choose those who will represent us in the halls > of power. It is our duty, then, to choose those candidates in whom we > believe, as well as those who believe in us. I believe in each member of our > organization. I believe that we, working together, have the power to > transform dreams into reality. This is why, after much contemplation and > consultation with many NABS leaders, I am asking for your vote for the > position of NABS Board member. > > > > By way of introduction, I am a rising senior at Francis Scott Key High > School in Union Bridge, Maryland. A member in good standing of the National > Honor Society, I have participated throughout my high school career in many > extracurricular activities which have made my character very well-rounded, > while keeping my academic efforts at the forefront of my activities. After > graduation I plan to receive training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind > (LCB) before attending college to become a teacher of blind students. In my > spare time I enjoy reading, writing, singing, traveling, hanging out with > friends, listening to all types of music, and-most importantly-working with > my Federation family to build our movement. > > > > Though I have known about the National Federation of the Blind for most of > my life, I did not become a contributing member until 2011, when I attended > a life-changing program at the Jernigan Institute at which I was inspired by > our positive philosophy and introduced to the myriad ways in which I could > get involved in our cause. Empowered and excited as I was about our > movement, I immersed myself in Federation activity the moment I returned > home from this program, and my enthusiasm has never waivered. I currently > serve the Federation in many capacities, most importantly as Vice President > of the Maryland Association of Blind Students. Through my involvement in > MDABS leadership since 2012, I have been able to participate actively in the > planning of two student seminars, a variety of fundraisers, and other > projects which have built and strengthened our division. Since I joined the > Board of our division, we have established and maintained a social media > presence on Twitter and Facebook, worked to engage our membership in all > aspects of our work, and grown our organization from a virtually unknown > division with do-nothing leadership to a vibrant participant in the work of > the National Federation of the Blind and our Maryland affiliate. > > > > Moreover, we have expanded our membership to include many passionate and > energetic middle and high school students, many of whom I was instrumental > in recruiting into our movement. This recruitment of the younger generation > is a passion of mine which I will bring to my work in NABS. All the while I > have remained personally engaged with our members, always ready to answer > questions and be of support as I am able. I believe that the best way to > lead is through maintaining a productive dialogue with the membership, > listening to their ideas and collaborating with them to achieve the best end > result. I have tried to live up to this philosophy in my work with the > Maryland student division, and will do so at the national level if I am > elected. > > > > I am running for NABS Board because I believe in our cause, and I am ready > to do my part to further us in our journey toward first-class citizenship. > The National Federation of the Blind has changed my life, and I am ready to > give back that which has been so generously given me. Moreover, I am running > because I believe that if NABS is to truly represent all blind students, > high school students too should be represented in our leadership. Too often > I have met blind high school students who have not yet been touched by our > message of hope. They believe that their futures are limited and that > blindness is the characteristic that defines them. We must reach out to > these students, showing them by our example that blindness need not hold > them back. As a member of this generation of students, I feel that I would > be the best leader to facilitate this outreach. Finally, I am running > because I have found NABS to be lacking in our social media engagement. > Through my experience as social media coordinator for the NFB of Maryland as > well as a member of our national Public Relations Committee, I plan to work > toward fixing this lapse in our leadership. > > > > Yes, I am running for a position of national leadership. However, I do not > plan to use that title to distance myself from the membership. I want to > hear from all of you-your ideas, your suggestions, even your complaints. It > is only through constructive dialogue that an organization such as ours can > thrive. In that spirit, I would welcome your questions about my candidacy, > concerns about NABS, and suggestions of what you would like to see NABS do > in the future. In summary, the position of NABS board member is not a > meaningless title to be taken lightly; rather, it is a sacred trust which > must be honored and kept. I hope that you will trust me enough to elect me > as your next Board member. Let us continue to transform dreams into reality > together! > > > > Yours in the movement, > > > > Chris Nusbaum, Vice President > > Greater Carroll County Chapter > > National Federation of the Blind of Maryland > > Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pgradioman%40hotmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 18:04:37 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 14:04:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Nusbaum for NABS Board In-Reply-To: References: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <638F6CA8-EFF3-4906-92DE-62705706FC09@gmail.com> Thanks for your support, Preston. I hope you'll be able to listen to our coverage on KJSC Radio. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Preston Gaylor via nabs-l wrote: > > Even though that I'm not there to vote, I am still voting for you Chris! > You got this!! > Good luck to everyone on Monday!! > Preston > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Dear NABS Family: >> >> >> >> In a few short days we will gather together in our hundreds to celebrate our >> past achievements, assess our present progress, and dream for our future-a >> future full of opportunity, in which blind students can and will be >> empowered to live the lives we want. We will be inspired by our leaders, >> informed by our tireless advocates, and entertained by our dynamic speakers. >> We will also exercise that most fundamental of democratic rights: the right >> to elect our own leaders, to choose those who will represent us in the halls >> of power. It is our duty, then, to choose those candidates in whom we >> believe, as well as those who believe in us. I believe in each member of our >> organization. I believe that we, working together, have the power to >> transform dreams into reality. This is why, after much contemplation and >> consultation with many NABS leaders, I am asking for your vote for the >> position of NABS Board member. >> >> >> >> By way of introduction, I am a rising senior at Francis Scott Key High >> School in Union Bridge, Maryland. A member in good standing of the National >> Honor Society, I have participated throughout my high school career in many >> extracurricular activities which have made my character very well-rounded, >> while keeping my academic efforts at the forefront of my activities. After >> graduation I plan to receive training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind >> (LCB) before attending college to become a teacher of blind students. In my >> spare time I enjoy reading, writing, singing, traveling, hanging out with >> friends, listening to all types of music, and-most importantly-working with >> my Federation family to build our movement. >> >> >> >> Though I have known about the National Federation of the Blind for most of >> my life, I did not become a contributing member until 2011, when I attended >> a life-changing program at the Jernigan Institute at which I was inspired by >> our positive philosophy and introduced to the myriad ways in which I could >> get involved in our cause. Empowered and excited as I was about our >> movement, I immersed myself in Federation activity the moment I returned >> home from this program, and my enthusiasm has never waivered. I currently >> serve the Federation in many capacities, most importantly as Vice President >> of the Maryland Association of Blind Students. Through my involvement in >> MDABS leadership since 2012, I have been able to participate actively in the >> planning of two student seminars, a variety of fundraisers, and other >> projects which have built and strengthened our division. Since I joined the >> Board of our division, we have established and maintained a social media >> presence on Twitter and Facebook, worked to engage our membership in all >> aspects of our work, and grown our organization from a virtually unknown >> division with do-nothing leadership to a vibrant participant in the work of >> the National Federation of the Blind and our Maryland affiliate. >> >> >> >> Moreover, we have expanded our membership to include many passionate and >> energetic middle and high school students, many of whom I was instrumental >> in recruiting into our movement. This recruitment of the younger generation >> is a passion of mine which I will bring to my work in NABS. All the while I >> have remained personally engaged with our members, always ready to answer >> questions and be of support as I am able. I believe that the best way to >> lead is through maintaining a productive dialogue with the membership, >> listening to their ideas and collaborating with them to achieve the best end >> result. I have tried to live up to this philosophy in my work with the >> Maryland student division, and will do so at the national level if I am >> elected. >> >> >> >> I am running for NABS Board because I believe in our cause, and I am ready >> to do my part to further us in our journey toward first-class citizenship. >> The National Federation of the Blind has changed my life, and I am ready to >> give back that which has been so generously given me. Moreover, I am running >> because I believe that if NABS is to truly represent all blind students, >> high school students too should be represented in our leadership. Too often >> I have met blind high school students who have not yet been touched by our >> message of hope. They believe that their futures are limited and that >> blindness is the characteristic that defines them. We must reach out to >> these students, showing them by our example that blindness need not hold >> them back. As a member of this generation of students, I feel that I would >> be the best leader to facilitate this outreach. Finally, I am running >> because I have found NABS to be lacking in our social media engagement. >> Through my experience as social media coordinator for the NFB of Maryland as >> well as a member of our national Public Relations Committee, I plan to work >> toward fixing this lapse in our leadership. >> >> >> >> Yes, I am running for a position of national leadership. However, I do not >> plan to use that title to distance myself from the membership. I want to >> hear from all of you-your ideas, your suggestions, even your complaints. It >> is only through constructive dialogue that an organization such as ours can >> thrive. In that spirit, I would welcome your questions about my candidacy, >> concerns about NABS, and suggestions of what you would like to see NABS do >> in the future. In summary, the position of NABS board member is not a >> meaningless title to be taken lightly; rather, it is a sacred trust which >> must be honored and kept. I hope that you will trust me enough to elect me >> as your next Board member. Let us continue to transform dreams into reality >> together! >> >> >> >> Yours in the movement, >> >> >> >> Chris Nusbaum, Vice President >> >> Greater Carroll County Chapter >> >> National Federation of the Blind of Maryland >> >> Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students >> >> Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland >> >> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >> >> Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD >> >> >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pgradioman%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From pgradioman at hotmail.com Sat Jul 4 18:51:48 2015 From: pgradioman at hotmail.com (Preston Gaylor) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 14:51:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Nusbaum for NABS Board In-Reply-To: <638F6CA8-EFF3-4906-92DE-62705706FC09@gmail.com> References: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> <638F6CA8-EFF3-4906-92DE-62705706FC09@gmail.com> Message-ID: I will be around on Monday, so looking forward to it a lot!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > > Thanks for your support, Preston. I hope you'll be able to listen to our coverage on KJSC Radio. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Preston Gaylor via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Even though that I'm not there to vote, I am still voting for you Chris! >> You got this!! >> Good luck to everyone on Monday!! >> Preston >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: >>> >>> Dear NABS Family: >>> >>> >>> >>> In a few short days we will gather together in our hundreds to celebrate our >>> past achievements, assess our present progress, and dream for our future-a >>> future full of opportunity, in which blind students can and will be >>> empowered to live the lives we want. We will be inspired by our leaders, >>> informed by our tireless advocates, and entertained by our dynamic speakers. >>> We will also exercise that most fundamental of democratic rights: the right >>> to elect our own leaders, to choose those who will represent us in the halls >>> of power. It is our duty, then, to choose those candidates in whom we >>> believe, as well as those who believe in us. I believe in each member of our >>> organization. I believe that we, working together, have the power to >>> transform dreams into reality. This is why, after much contemplation and >>> consultation with many NABS leaders, I am asking for your vote for the >>> position of NABS Board member. >>> >>> >>> >>> By way of introduction, I am a rising senior at Francis Scott Key High >>> School in Union Bridge, Maryland. A member in good standing of the National >>> Honor Society, I have participated throughout my high school career in many >>> extracurricular activities which have made my character very well-rounded, >>> while keeping my academic efforts at the forefront of my activities. After >>> graduation I plan to receive training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind >>> (LCB) before attending college to become a teacher of blind students. In my >>> spare time I enjoy reading, writing, singing, traveling, hanging out with >>> friends, listening to all types of music, and-most importantly-working with >>> my Federation family to build our movement. >>> >>> >>> >>> Though I have known about the National Federation of the Blind for most of >>> my life, I did not become a contributing member until 2011, when I attended >>> a life-changing program at the Jernigan Institute at which I was inspired by >>> our positive philosophy and introduced to the myriad ways in which I could >>> get involved in our cause. Empowered and excited as I was about our >>> movement, I immersed myself in Federation activity the moment I returned >>> home from this program, and my enthusiasm has never waivered. I currently >>> serve the Federation in many capacities, most importantly as Vice President >>> of the Maryland Association of Blind Students. Through my involvement in >>> MDABS leadership since 2012, I have been able to participate actively in the >>> planning of two student seminars, a variety of fundraisers, and other >>> projects which have built and strengthened our division. Since I joined the >>> Board of our division, we have established and maintained a social media >>> presence on Twitter and Facebook, worked to engage our membership in all >>> aspects of our work, and grown our organization from a virtually unknown >>> division with do-nothing leadership to a vibrant participant in the work of >>> the National Federation of the Blind and our Maryland affiliate. >>> >>> >>> >>> Moreover, we have expanded our membership to include many passionate and >>> energetic middle and high school students, many of whom I was instrumental >>> in recruiting into our movement. This recruitment of the younger generation >>> is a passion of mine which I will bring to my work in NABS. All the while I >>> have remained personally engaged with our members, always ready to answer >>> questions and be of support as I am able. I believe that the best way to >>> lead is through maintaining a productive dialogue with the membership, >>> listening to their ideas and collaborating with them to achieve the best end >>> result. I have tried to live up to this philosophy in my work with the >>> Maryland student division, and will do so at the national level if I am >>> elected. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am running for NABS Board because I believe in our cause, and I am ready >>> to do my part to further us in our journey toward first-class citizenship. >>> The National Federation of the Blind has changed my life, and I am ready to >>> give back that which has been so generously given me. Moreover, I am running >>> because I believe that if NABS is to truly represent all blind students, >>> high school students too should be represented in our leadership. Too often >>> I have met blind high school students who have not yet been touched by our >>> message of hope. They believe that their futures are limited and that >>> blindness is the characteristic that defines them. We must reach out to >>> these students, showing them by our example that blindness need not hold >>> them back. As a member of this generation of students, I feel that I would >>> be the best leader to facilitate this outreach. Finally, I am running >>> because I have found NABS to be lacking in our social media engagement. >>> Through my experience as social media coordinator for the NFB of Maryland as >>> well as a member of our national Public Relations Committee, I plan to work >>> toward fixing this lapse in our leadership. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I am running for a position of national leadership. However, I do not >>> plan to use that title to distance myself from the membership. I want to >>> hear from all of you-your ideas, your suggestions, even your complaints. It >>> is only through constructive dialogue that an organization such as ours can >>> thrive. In that spirit, I would welcome your questions about my candidacy, >>> concerns about NABS, and suggestions of what you would like to see NABS do >>> in the future. In summary, the position of NABS board member is not a >>> meaningless title to be taken lightly; rather, it is a sacred trust which >>> must be honored and kept. I hope that you will trust me enough to elect me >>> as your next Board member. Let us continue to transform dreams into reality >>> together! >>> >>> >>> >>> Yours in the movement, >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, Vice President >>> >>> Greater Carroll County Chapter >>> >>> National Federation of the Blind of Maryland >>> >>> Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pgradioman%40hotmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pgradioman%40hotmail.com From lily2011a at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 19:59:32 2015 From: lily2011a at gmail.com (Liliya Asadullina) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:59:32 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Anatomy and Physiology Questions In-Reply-To: <559689b6.871f370a.d3c30.ffffca2aSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <559689b6.871f370a.d3c30.ffffca2aSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Melissa, My name is Liliya and I am going to be taking AMP1 with lab this coming semester. I have gotten some accommodations already set up for my class. Please contact me directly at Lily1127 at me.com to talk about it if you'd like some advice. It's the quickest way to reach me by email or feel free to call me as well. Phone number: 267-644-6530. The quickest way to reach me is by texting or calling me because I might not have access to the internet these next few weeks. Thanks and hope to be able to help! Lily On 7/3/15, mnflammia86 at aol.com wrote: > Hi there. I have been a lurker on this mailing list, and so far all that I > have read has been a great help. I hope that I have done this email > correctly, and it gets sent! I am curious if anyone has taken Anatomy and > physiology with the lab? If so, what kind of accommodations helped the best? > My college isn't one that suggests accommodations, so I am in the dark. > Greetings, > Melissa > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lily2011a%40gmail.com > From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 22:44:12 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 18:44:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Anatomy and Physiology Questions In-Reply-To: References: <559689b6.871f370a.d3c30.ffffca2aSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, I too am taking human anatomy with the lab this coming semester. Here are the accommodations my prof and I brainstormed in April that we plan to use. * Make use of 3d models as much as possible. My prof has an entire skeleton model she'll let me borrow for the semester, as well as some models of individual organs. Some of the models, such as the one she has for the brain, also split apart into different sections so you can see lobes or parts of the organ at a time and how they connect to others, as well as interior structures of that section. * Come to open labs and have a TA prepared to work with me there if needed on an individual basis. If your prof offers open labs (time like office hours in the lab), take advantage of it. If not then ask for some office hours with either her or one of the TAs. 3. Extended time on tests, test proctoring, etc. I've never been one to use a scribe before, but it might be helpful in the practical exams while you're feeling the cadavers (assuming you're also using cadavers in the labs). 4. Make sure tactile drawings are available whenever a structure doesn't have a model to feel. If possible get some time in open labs or after class for a TA or the prof to show you the structure in the cadavers as well. My lab does practical exams, so a lot of it will be identifying structures spatially in reference to each other. In theory this should also make the material for the lecture easier to learn. I'd highly recommend looking into using models or getting some if your prof doesn't own them already. Models won't just be useful for you-they can be used again and again for other students. I hope this helps. On 7/4/15, Liliya Asadullina via nabs-l wrote: > Hello Melissa, > My name is Liliya and I am going to be taking AMP1 with lab this > coming semester. > I have gotten some accommodations already set up for my class. > Please contact me directly at Lily1127 at me.com to talk about it if > you'd like some advice. It's the quickest way to reach me by email or > feel free to call me as well. > Phone number: 267-644-6530. > The quickest way to reach me is by texting or calling me because I > might not have access to the internet these next few weeks. > Thanks and hope to be able to help! > Lily > > On 7/3/15, mnflammia86 at aol.com wrote: >> Hi there. I have been a lurker on this mailing list, and so far all that >> I >> have read has been a great help. I hope that I have done this email >> correctly, and it gets sent! I am curious if anyone has taken Anatomy and >> physiology with the lab? If so, what kind of accommodations helped the >> best? >> My college isn't one that suggests accommodations, so I am in the dark. >> Greetings, >> Melissa >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lily2011a%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti From jonathancandler_msa at q.com Sat Jul 4 23:55:56 2015 From: jonathancandler_msa at q.com (Jonathan Candler) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 19:55:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Nusbaum for NABS Board In-Reply-To: References: <003101d0b608$eb0ce9b0$c126bd10$@gmail.com> <638F6CA8-EFF3-4906-92DE-62705706FC09@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chris, you know that I will be voting for you. Jonnyboy! Iphones rock! > On Jul 4, 2015, at 14:51, Preston Gaylor via nabs-l wrote: > > I will be around on Monday, so looking forward to it a lot!!! > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 4, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Thanks for your support, Preston. I hope you'll be able to listen to our coverage on KJSC Radio. >> >> Chris Nusbaum >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Preston Gaylor via nabs-l wrote: >>> >>> Even though that I'm not there to vote, I am still voting for you Chris! >>> You got this!! >>> Good luck to everyone on Monday!! >>> Preston >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear NABS Family: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In a few short days we will gather together in our hundreds to celebrate our >>>> past achievements, assess our present progress, and dream for our future-a >>>> future full of opportunity, in which blind students can and will be >>>> empowered to live the lives we want. We will be inspired by our leaders, >>>> informed by our tireless advocates, and entertained by our dynamic speakers. >>>> We will also exercise that most fundamental of democratic rights: the right >>>> to elect our own leaders, to choose those who will represent us in the halls >>>> of power. It is our duty, then, to choose those candidates in whom we >>>> believe, as well as those who believe in us. I believe in each member of our >>>> organization. I believe that we, working together, have the power to >>>> transform dreams into reality. This is why, after much contemplation and >>>> consultation with many NABS leaders, I am asking for your vote for the From martinezana770 at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 00:59:12 2015 From: martinezana770 at gmail.com (martinezana770 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 19:59:12 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about convention Message-ID: Hi I have a question for national convention does anyone know when will it be streamed? Sorry for my English Sent from my iPhone From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 5 01:15:29 2015 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:15:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about convention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D155E18-962B-4E42-9E89-7F9BBB279BC9@yahoo.com> Hello and Happy 4th Ana! Here is a link to the page where you can find the schedule to all parts of the convention that will be streamed: https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule Happy streaming! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 http://bobbialpompey.webs.com > On Jul 4, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Ana via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi I have a question for national convention does anyone know when will it be streamed? Sorry for my English > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sun Jul 5 22:01:19 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 18:01:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] nabs meeting streaming Message-ID: <9520610F548948C1A3896D34D392CAD6@OwnerPC> Hi all, Anyone know when the stream starts? Is it when the meeting begins or maybe its during registration time around 6:30 Monday. Thanks. From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 23:07:04 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 19:07:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] nabs meeting streaming In-Reply-To: <9520610F548948C1A3896D34D392CAD6@OwnerPC> References: <9520610F548948C1A3896D34D392CAD6@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <7B38153C-296C-4037-B170-BA34DEA3F559@gmail.com> Ashley: We will begin our stream at 6:30 PM EST. Jonathan Candler and I will be hosting some pre-meeting coverage at that time, with the meeting itself beginning at 7:00. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Chris Nusbaum, NABS Coverage Host Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi all, > > Anyone know when the stream starts? Is it when the meeting begins or maybe its during registration time around 6:30 Monday. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From shawnabraham21 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 01:50:37 2015 From: shawnabraham21 at gmail.com (Shawn Abraham) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 21:50:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] nabs meeting streaming Message-ID: <5599df26.0746810a.d2cb3.7897@mx.google.com> Hey, I probably missed this, but how do I access the stream for the meeting? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: Hi all, Anyone know when the stream starts? Is it when the meeting begins or maybe its during registration time around 6:30 Monday. Thanks. _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shawnabraham2 1%40gmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 15:56:27 2015 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 11:56:27 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting Message-ID: Hello All, I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email list about the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So in case you missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here is all the information you will need to listen to the online stream. Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing the online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will start at 6:30 pm EDT with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please note these times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the time difference for your local time zone. To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that was provided in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting it here to make the link easier for everyone to find. Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in one simple email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online stream. It looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business meeting, so I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into providing the online stream. Warm regards, Elizabeth From gopgirl73 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 18:47:22 2015 From: gopgirl73 at gmail.com (Sofia Gallo) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:47:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad / laptop / iphone question Message-ID: Hi! for those of you who have a laptop, a phone and an iPad, do you find it is useful to have all 3? What do you use each one for (other than the obvious fact that the phone is the only one to make calls with). I know that having all 3 is not strictly nnecessary, But I'm just curious. Thanks! From matt.dierckens at me.com Mon Jul 6 18:53:10 2015 From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 14:53:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad / laptop / iphone question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <664847C4-4549-4CF4-826A-CAF7E62EBEB8@me.com> Hello, I have a mac, iPhone and iPad and I use all three on a regular basis. I can make calls and send texts from all three of my devices, I like having the larger screen for some apps on the iPad, and I use all of them while training my students. God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer U.S. number: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierckens at me.com On Jul 6, 2015, at 14:47, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l wrote: Hi! for those of you who have a laptop, a phone and an iPad, do you find it is useful to have all 3? What do you use each one for (other than the obvious fact that the phone is the only one to make calls with). I know that having all 3 is not strictly nnecessary, But I'm just curious. Thanks! _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40me.com From jhud7789 at outlook.com Mon Jul 6 18:54:25 2015 From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (joseph hudson) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:54:25 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad / laptop / iphone question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, yes. I do find it necessary as I use my iPad whenever I don't feel like carrying heavy computer with me and other than using my iPhone as a phone also like to use it as a mobile hotspot whenever I'm traveling. > On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi! > > for those of you who have a laptop, a phone and an iPad, do you find > it is useful to have all 3? What do you use each one for (other than > the obvious fact that the phone is the only one to make calls with). > I know that having all 3 is not strictly nnecessary, But I'm just curious. > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40outlook.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 18:56:59 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:56:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD17D29-3505-4F77-8054-DE566DFA8EA5@gmail.com> Thank you very much for doing this, Elizabeth. I had meant to do something like this at some point today, but as you likely understand the national convention schedule is very hectic indeed. If those of you who are state student division leaders could post this information to your lists, I would greatly appreciate it. I very much look forward to hosting this coverage tonight, and hope that many of you can tune in. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email list about > the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So in case you > missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here is all the > information you will need to listen to the online stream. > > > > Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing the > online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will start at 6:30 pm EDT > with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please note these > times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the time > difference for your local time zone. > > > > To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: > http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that was provided > in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting it here to make > the link easier for everyone to find. > > > > Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in one simple > email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online stream. It > looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business meeting, so > I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into providing > the online stream. > > > > Warm regards, > > Elizabeth > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From shawnabraham21 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:06:04 2015 From: shawnabraham21 at gmail.com (Shawn Abraham) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:06:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting Message-ID: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> I seem to be doing something wrong, when I stream the radio, I'm getting a live broadcast of music. Can anyone help? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: Hello All, I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email list about the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So in case you missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here is all the information you will need to listen to the online stream. Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing the online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will start at 6:30 pm EDT with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please note these times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the time difference for your local time zone. To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that was provided in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting it here to make the link easier for everyone to find. Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in one simple email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online stream. It looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business meeting, so I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into providing the online stream. Warm regards, Elizabeth _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shawnabraham2 1%40gmail.com From arielle71 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:10:50 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 16:10:50 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting In-Reply-To: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> References: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I had the same issue, and when I checked Chris Nusbaum's Facebook page, he said the stream is not broadcasting due to hotel connectivity issues. Hopefully the stream will come on later in the meeting. I'll update the list if I get the stream at all. Arielle On 7/6/15, Shawn Abraham via nabs-l wrote: > I seem to be doing something wrong, when I stream the radio, I'm > getting a live broadcast of music. > Can anyone help? Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:56:59 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS > Business Meeting > > Thank you very much for doing this, Elizabeth. I had meant to do > something like this at some point today, but as you likely > understand the national convention schedule is very hectic > indeed. If those of you who are state student division leaders > could post this information to your lists, I would greatly > appreciate it. I very much look forward to hosting this coverage > tonight, and hope that many of you can tune in. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l > wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email > list about > the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So in > case you > missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here is all > the > information you will need to listen to the online stream. > > > > Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for > providing the > online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will start at > 6:30 pm EDT > with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please > note these > times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the > time > difference for your local time zone. > > > > To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: > http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that > was provided > in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting it > here to make > the link easier for everyone to find. > > > > Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in > one simple > email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online > stream. It > looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business > meeting, so > I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into > providing > the online stream. > > > > Warm regards, > > Elizabeth > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account > info for nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shawnabraham2 > 1%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:11:19 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 19:11:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting In-Reply-To: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> References: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <92F70406-913B-471B-988C-DF376680B077@gmail.com> There was a screwup with the hotel. We didn't even have equipment until now, so now we have to set it up. Standby. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Shawn Abraham wrote: > > I seem to be doing something wrong, when I stream the radio, I'm getting a live broadcast of music. > Can anyone help? Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:56:59 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting > > Thank you very much for doing this, Elizabeth. I had meant to do something like this at some point today, but as you likely understand the national convention schedule is very hectic indeed. If those of you who are state student division leaders could post this information to your lists, I would greatly appreciate it. I very much look forward to hosting this coverage tonight, and hope that many of you can tune in. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email list about > the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So in case you > missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here is all the > information you will need to listen to the online stream. > > > > Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing the > online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will start at 6:30 pm EDT > with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please note these > times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the time > difference for your local time zone. > > > > To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: > http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that was provided > in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting it here to make > the link easier for everyone to find. > > > > Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in one simple > email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online stream. It > looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business meeting, so > I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into providing > the online stream. > > > > Warm regards, > > Elizabeth > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shawnabraham2 > 1%40gmail.com From jhud7789 at outlook.com Mon Jul 6 23:11:41 2015 From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (joseph hudson) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 18:11:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting In-Reply-To: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> References: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, that's all that's playing right now. They have not started screaming the convention yet. > On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Shawn Abraham via nabs-l wrote: > > I seem to be doing something wrong, when I stream the radio, I'm getting a live broadcast of music. > Can anyone help? Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:56:59 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting > > Thank you very much for doing this, Elizabeth. I had meant to do something like this at some point today, but as you likely understand the national convention schedule is very hectic indeed. If those of you who are state student division leaders could post this information to your lists, I would greatly appreciate it. I very much look forward to hosting this coverage tonight, and hope that many of you can tune in. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email list about > the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So in case you > missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here is all the > information you will need to listen to the online stream. > > > > Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing the > online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will start at 6:30 pm EDT > with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please note these > times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the time > difference for your local time zone. > > > > To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: > http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that was provided > in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting it here to make > the link easier for everyone to find. > > > > Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in one simple > email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online stream. It > looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business meeting, so > I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into providing > the online stream. > > > > Warm regards, > > Elizabeth > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shawnabraham2 > 1%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40outlook.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:12:06 2015 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 19:12:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting In-Reply-To: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> References: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Shawn, I am getting the same thing. Either they sent out the wrong link or the meeting has not started yet. I am not quite sure how else to get a hold of those streaming the meeting at the meeting site besides through this email list or perhaps on Twitter. If they are not able to stream it online, perhaps they can at least record it and post it online after the meeting ends. Warm regards, Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Abraham via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:06 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Shawn Abraham Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting I seem to be doing something wrong, when I stream the radio, I'm getting a live broadcast of music. Can anyone help? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: Hello All, I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email list about the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So in case you missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here is all the information you will need to listen to the online stream. Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for providing the online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will start at 6:30 pm EDT with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please note these times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the time difference for your local time zone. To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that was provided in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting it here to make the link easier for everyone to find. Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in one simple email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online stream. It looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business meeting, so I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into providing the online stream. Warm regards, Elizabeth _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shawnabraham2 1%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:17:42 2015 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 19:17:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <559b0a17.d3988c0a.599a5.5f09@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello Arielle, I have seen a lot of Tweets about people having trouble connecting to the internet at the hotel, so perhaps this is causing problems for them. Hopefully, there is some kind of back up recording that can be posted after the meeting ends. I still appreciate the time and effort that went into trying to make this possible even if it does not prove to be successful. Warm regards, Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:11 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Arielle Silverman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business Meeting I had the same issue, and when I checked Chris Nusbaum's Facebook page, he said the stream is not broadcasting due to hotel connectivity issues. Hopefully the stream will come on later in the meeting. I'll update the list if I get the stream at all. Arielle On 7/6/15, Shawn Abraham via nabs-l wrote: > I seem to be doing something wrong, when I stream the radio, I'm > getting a live broadcast of music. > Can anyone help? Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Online Streaming Information for NABS Business > Meeting > > Thank you very much for doing this, Elizabeth. I had meant to do > something like this at some point today, but as you likely understand > the national convention schedule is very hectic indeed. If those of > you who are state student division leaders could post this information > to your lists, I would greatly appreciate it. I very much look > forward to hosting this coverage tonight, and hope that many of you > can tune in. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l > wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have seen a couple different emails posted to the NABS email list > about the online streaming for tonight's NABS business meeting. So > in case you missed the announcements, or simply need a reminder, here > is all the information you will need to listen to the online stream. > > > > Thanks to Jonathan Candler and Chris Nusbaum of KJSC Radio for > providing the online stream. The NABS business meeting coverage will > start at > 6:30 pm EDT > with the NABS business meeting starting at 7:00 pm EDT. Please note > these times are in eastern daylight savings time, so please note the > time difference for your local time zone. > > > > To listen to the NABS business meeting online, please visit: > http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php. This was the link that was > provided in the general NABS announcement, and I am simply reposting > it here to make the link easier for everyone to find. > > > > Anyway, I just thought I would post all of this information in > one simple > email for everyone who is interested in listening to the online > stream. It > looks like there is a great agenda for this year's NABS business > meeting, so > I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into > providing > the online stream. > > > > Warm regards, > > Elizabeth > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account > info for nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shawnabraham2 > 1%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:21:59 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 19:21:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Streaming Message-ID: Hello All: We apologize for the trouble with the stream. The hotel had not provided us with the equipment we need in time for us to go on the air as scheduled. We are currently setting up the stream and will be broadcasting momentarily. Thanks for your patience. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:52:30 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 19:52:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Streaming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> Is it up ? Kathryn C. Webster (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello All: > > We apologize for the trouble with the stream. The hotel had not provided us with the equipment we need in time for us to go on the air as scheduled. We are currently setting up the stream and will be broadcasting momentarily. Thanks for your patience. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:58:56 2015 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 19:58:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Streaming In-Reply-To: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> References: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Yes, the stream just started. Thanks for all the hard work that made this possible. Hearing some of the NABS business meeting is better than none at all. So thanks a bunch. Warm regards, Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Webster via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:53 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kathryn Webster Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming Is it up ? Kathryn C. Webster (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello All: > > We apologize for the trouble with the stream. The hotel had not provided us with the equipment we need in time for us to go on the air as scheduled. We are currently setting up the stream and will be broadcasting momentarily. Thanks for your patience. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue Jul 7 00:00:48 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:00:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Streaming In-Reply-To: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> References: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7EEEE95AE37043919584409205AD7ABA@OwnerPC> Hi Katheryn, On my end its 8:00 eastern daylight time. Yes the stream is up. They are talking about study abroad now. Click on launch radio station and it should come on. my media player is windows media player, but I would imagine it streams in many media players you might use. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Webster via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:52 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kathryn Webster Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming Is it up ? Kathryn C. Webster (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l > wrote: > > Hello All: > > We apologize for the trouble with the stream. The hotel had not provided > us with the equipment we need in time for us to go on the air as > scheduled. We are currently setting up the stream and will be broadcasting > momentarily. Thanks for your patience. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 00:02:01 2015 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 19:02:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Streaming References: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <020601d0b848$31f350d0$d900a8c0@chintrap> how do I listen to the stream ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Cc: "Elizabeth Mohnke" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming > Hello, > > Yes, the stream just started. Thanks for all the hard work that made this > possible. Hearing some of the NABS business meeting is better than none at > all. So thanks a bunch. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn > Webster > via nabs-l > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:53 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Kathryn Webster > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming > > Is it up ? > > Kathryn C. Webster > (203) 273-8463 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l > wrote: >> >> Hello All: >> >> We apologize for the trouble with the stream. The hotel had not provided > us with the equipment we need in time for us to go on the air as > scheduled. > We are currently setting up the stream and will be broadcasting > momentarily. > Thanks for your patience. >> >> Chris Nusbaum >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma > il.com > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com From pgradioman at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 00:08:16 2015 From: pgradioman at hotmail.com (Preston Gaylor) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:08:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Streaming In-Reply-To: <020601d0b848$31f350d0$d900a8c0@chintrap> References: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> <020601d0b848$31f350d0$d900a8c0@chintrap> Message-ID: The direct stream URL is: http://kjscradio.com:8000/stream.mp3 Preston KJSC radio Staff Member Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Doug Oliver via nabs-l wrote: > > how do I listen to the stream > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > Cc: "Elizabeth Mohnke" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming > > >> Hello, >> >> Yes, the stream just started. Thanks for all the hard work that made this >> possible. Hearing some of the NABS business meeting is better than none at >> all. So thanks a bunch. >> >> Warm regards, >> Elizabeth >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Webster >> via nabs-l >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:53 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Kathryn Webster >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming >> >> Is it up ? >> >> Kathryn C. Webster >> (203) 273-8463 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello All: >>> >>> We apologize for the trouble with the stream. The hotel had not provided >> us with the equipment we need in time for us to go on the air as scheduled. >> We are currently setting up the stream and will be broadcasting momentarily. >> Thanks for your patience. >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma >> il.com >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pgradioman%40hotmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 00:28:32 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:28:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] We are Live! Message-ID: After all the technical difficulties, we're excited to announce that the stream of the NABS meeting is live! Go to kjscradio.com now to tune in. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone From jonathancandler_msa at q.com Tue Jul 7 01:34:24 2015 From: jonathancandler_msa at q.com (Jonathan Candler) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 21:34:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Streaming In-Reply-To: References: <0A5A682F-BFBC-4745-BB1A-284268C2FDC9@gmail.com> <020601d0b848$31f350d0$d900a8c0@chintrap> Message-ID: <74A126B9-6F85-4B9A-B347-1ADE7A8D65DD@q.com> Guys i want to thank you all who are listening! Thank you all for letting us be a part of all of this! Remember, if you want to interact by twitter, its at @kjscradio Jonnyboy! Iphones rock! > On Jul 6, 2015, at 20:08, Preston Gaylor via nabs-l wrote: > > The direct stream URL is: > http://kjscradio.com:8000/stream.mp3 > Preston > KJSC radio Staff Member > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Doug Oliver via nabs-l wrote: >> >> how do I listen to the stream >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >> Cc: "Elizabeth Mohnke" >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Yes, the stream just started. Thanks for all the hard work that made this >>> possible. Hearing some of the NABS business meeting is better than none at >>> all. So thanks a bunch. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Webster >>> via nabs-l >>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:53 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Kathryn Webster >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Streaming >>> >>> Is it up ? >>> >>> Kathryn C. Webster >>> (203) 273-8463 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello All: >>>> >>>> We apologize for the trouble with the stream. The hotel had not provided >>> us with the equipment we need in time for us to go on the air as scheduled. >>> We are currently setting up the stream and will be broadcasting momentarily. >>> Thanks for your patience. >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma >>> il.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pgradioman%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jonathancandler_msa%40q.com From arielle71 at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 04:26:34 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 21:26:34 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations! Message-ID: Hi all! I'm not at convention this year, but I enjoyed being able to follow much of the NABS meeting on the stream. Sean's presidential speech was invigorating and inspiring as usual. He even (almost) motivated me to get involved with legislation! Legislation is admittedly one of my least-favorite Federation activities so that is saying a lot. I was also touched to hear my former vice-president Karen Anderson's farewell words of wisdom to the organization. Congratulations to the continuing and newly elected NABS board: President, Sean Whalen First Vice-President, Candice Chapman Second Vice-President, Bre Brown Secretary, Kathryn Webster Treasurer, Derek Manners Board Member, Hindley Williams BoardMember, Chris Nusbaum Board Member, Michael Osbon Continuing Board Member, Garrett Mooney (apologies in advance for any misspellings). Congratulations also to the departing board members whose contributions will carry NABS forward in the years to come. Warmly, Arielle Silverman NABS past president (2009-2011) From gopgirl73 at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 13:01:52 2015 From: gopgirl73 at gmail.com (Sofia Gallo) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 09:01:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad / laptop / iphone question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok, good to know! Do you guys use a Bluetooth keyboard (like Logitech or apple)? Does it work well with voiceover and IOS 8.4? On 7/6/15, joseph hudson via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, yes. I do find it necessary as I use my iPad whenever I don't feel like > carrying heavy computer with me and other than using my iPhone as a phone > also like to use it as a mobile hotspot whenever I'm traveling. >> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> for those of you who have a laptop, a phone and an iPad, do you find >> it is useful to have all 3? What do you use each one for (other than >> the obvious fact that the phone is the only one to make calls with). >> I know that having all 3 is not strictly nnecessary, But I'm just >> curious. >> >> Thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40outlook.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gopgirl73%40gmail.com > From matt.dierckens at me.com Tue Jul 7 13:05:27 2015 From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 09:05:27 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad / laptop / iphone question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81031504-64C6-4C3B-8613-0BD0E79E35BB@me.com> Funnily enough, I do not use a bluetooth keyboard with my devices. I will, however, check the status of the bluetooth issues with VO on the iPad and iPhone with iOS 8.4 God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer U.S. number: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierckens at me.com On Jul 7, 2015, at 09:01, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l wrote: Ok, good to know! Do you guys use a Bluetooth keyboard (like Logitech or apple)? Does it work well with voiceover and IOS 8.4? On 7/6/15, joseph hudson via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, yes. I do find it necessary as I use my iPad whenever I don't feel like > carrying heavy computer with me and other than using my iPhone as a phone > also like to use it as a mobile hotspot whenever I'm traveling. >> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> for those of you who have a laptop, a phone and an iPad, do you find >> it is useful to have all 3? What do you use each one for (other than >> the obvious fact that the phone is the only one to make calls with). >> I know that having all 3 is not strictly nnecessary, But I'm just >> curious. >> >> Thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40outlook.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gopgirl73%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40me.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 15:15:09 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 11:15:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <195CC902-E9AB-4303-A1F3-671A62F4F48F@gmail.com> Congratulations to my newly elected board members Sent from my iPad > On Jul 7, 2015, at 12:26 AM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi all! I'm not at convention this year, but I enjoyed being able to > follow much of the NABS meeting on the stream. Sean's presidential > speech was invigorating and inspiring as usual. He even (almost) > motivated me to get involved with legislation! Legislation is > admittedly one of my least-favorite Federation activities so that is > saying a lot. > I was also touched to hear my former vice-president Karen Anderson's > farewell words of wisdom to the organization. > Congratulations to the continuing and newly elected NABS board: > President, Sean Whalen > First Vice-President, Candice Chapman > Second Vice-President, Bre Brown > Secretary, Kathryn Webster > Treasurer, Derek Manners > Board Member, Hindley Williams > BoardMember, Chris Nusbaum > Board Member, Michael Osbon > Continuing Board Member, Garrett Mooney > (apologies in advance for any misspellings). > Congratulations also to the departing board members whose > contributions will carry NABS forward in the years to come. > > Warmly, > Arielle Silverman > NABS past president (2009-2011) > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:49:23 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 08:49:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad / laptop / iphone question Message-ID: <559d1c6d.c239810a.24c2.6f96@mx.google.com> I have an IPad IPhone and a desktop computer. I use the desktop computer to take quizzes for school and to watch archived church sersmons. I use the IPhone and the IPad to send and receive emails and facetime and message with friends and family. From kwitucki at learningally.org Wed Jul 8 14:59:29 2015 From: kwitucki at learningally.org (Witucki, Kristen) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 10:59:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] There's still time to sign up for Learning Ally's College Success Program at the NFB convention! Message-ID: Hello, If you are in college or are entering college in the fall, Learning Ally is offering an exciting program for students which will give you free audiobooks and access to mentors who are college graduates who are blind or visually impaired. These mentors can help you to figure out what goals you need to meet in order to thrive in the college setting. Please stop at our table, B31, to learn more, and to sign up for more information! If you aren't at Convention, don't worry. Check out our website, http://www.learningally.org/collegesuccess where you can join our program, or if you need help with signing up, email me off the list at kwitucki at learningally.org, and I'll be happy to help you next week when I return home. We are looking forward to working with you! Kristen Kristen Witucki Community Coordinator for Students who are Blind or Visually Impaired Learning Ally: Together it's possible. 20 Roszel Rd Princeton, NJ 08540 (609) 243-7054 KWitucki at learningally.org http://www.learningally.org From msidhu at nfb.org Wed Jul 8 18:04:42 2015 From: msidhu at nfb.org (Sidhu,Mehgan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 18:04:42 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Higher Ed Self-Advocacy Workshop TONIGHT at 6:00pm Message-ID: Please remember to come to the Self-Advocacy in Higher Education Workshop tonight starting at 6:00pm in Salon 5, Level 2. I look forward to seeing you there! SELF-ADVOCACY IN HIGHER EDUCATION: KNOWING YOUR RIGHTS AND GETTING IT DONE NFB Convention, Orlando July 8, 2015 6 - 7:30 -Salon 5, level 2 A workshop for current or soon-to-be college and post-graduate students, parents of students, and state affiliate leaders. Get to know your rights as a blind student, best practices for ensuring an accessible college experience, and how to work together to ensure equality for blind students in our colleges and universities. Mehgan Sidhu, NFB General Counsel, Coordinator Moderator (Mehgan Sidhu) I. Introductory remarks from Sean Whalen, NABS President (Sean Whalen) 6 - 6:02 II. Know your legal rights (Mehgan Sidhu) 6:02 - 6:20 III. Understanding the SMART Act and the attitude shift on college campuses (Lauren McLarney, ) 6:20 - 6:35 IV. Tips and Tricks (Gabe Cazares) 6:20 - 6:35 V. Changing the landscape: Success Stories (Bob Kresmer, Justin Salisbury, Derek Manners, Kathryn Webster and Gabe Cazares) 6:35 - 7:05 V. How you can help the NFB advocate for student rights (Valerie Yingling and Lauren McLarney) 7:05 - 7:20 VI. Questions / Discussion (10 min) 7:20 - 7:30. Mehgan Sidhu General Counsel National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place Baltimore, Maryland 21230 Telephone 410-659-9314 ext. 2314 Fax: 410-659-5129 E-mail: msidhu at nfb.org Web site: www.nfb.org The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this information is prohibited. If this was sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 18:17:32 2015 From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (Simon) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 14:17:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Higher Ed Self-Advocacy Workshop TONIGHT at 6:00pm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for posting this information. Will the forum be streamed for those unable to attend in person? -Simon Bonenfant Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:04 PM, "Sidhu,Mehgan via nabs-l" wrote: > > Please remember to come to the Self-Advocacy in Higher Education Workshop tonight starting at 6:00pm in Salon 5, Level 2. I look forward to seeing you there! > > SELF-ADVOCACY IN HIGHER EDUCATION: KNOWING YOUR RIGHTS AND GETTING IT DONE > > NFB Convention, Orlando > July 8, 2015 > 6 - 7:30 -Salon 5, level 2 > > A workshop for current or soon-to-be college and post-graduate students, parents of students, and state affiliate leaders. Get to know your rights as a blind student, best practices for ensuring an accessible college experience, and how to work together to ensure equality for blind students in our colleges and universities. Mehgan Sidhu, NFB General Counsel, Coordinator > > Moderator (Mehgan Sidhu) > > I. Introductory remarks from Sean Whalen, NABS President (Sean Whalen) 6 - 6:02 > > II. Know your legal rights (Mehgan Sidhu) 6:02 - 6:20 > > III. Understanding the SMART Act and the attitude shift on college campuses (Lauren McLarney, ) 6:20 - 6:35 > > IV. Tips and Tricks (Gabe Cazares) 6:20 - 6:35 > > V. Changing the landscape: Success Stories (Bob Kresmer, Justin Salisbury, Derek Manners, Kathryn Webster and Gabe Cazares) 6:35 - 7:05 > > V. How you can help the NFB advocate for student rights (Valerie Yingling and Lauren McLarney) 7:05 - 7:20 > > VI. Questions / Discussion (10 min) 7:20 - 7:30. > > Mehgan Sidhu > General Counsel > National Federation of the Blind > 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place > Baltimore, Maryland 21230 > Telephone 410-659-9314 ext. 2314 > Fax: 410-659-5129 > E-mail: msidhu at nfb.org > Web site: www.nfb.org > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > > To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. > > CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this information is prohibited. If this was sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 18:17:54 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 14:17:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Different Travel experiences Message-ID: <559d696d.81d90d0a.9d03.ffffaace@mx.google.com> Dear Students, The subject of this discussion stems from an experience I had last week while traveling to Canada from Orlando. When we were in the Orlando International Airport they let me use my cane to walk through security. On the way out of Canada they had me use a different cane to go through security. They scanned my cane both times during this trip. Since many of you have come to the Nfb con"vention which I have been listening to via livestream I thought I'd post this here. What were your experiences like traveling to Orlando with your canes? From nobe-l at nfbnet.org Wed Jul 8 19:19:34 2015 From: nobe-l at nfbnet.org (Stephanie Ludi via nobe-l) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 14:19:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking teachers of the blind to interview as part of an activity design project for middle and high school students Message-ID: Hi, My name is Stephanie Ludi, and I am a faculty member in the Software Engineering program at the Rochester Institute of Technology. I am seeking teachers of the blind at the middle and high school level to interview in order to gain insight and perspective in "real" classrooms. I am working on an ongoing project that involves creating inclusive hands-on activities in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) for young people in middle and high school who are visually impaired. These activities are meant to complement computer-based activities, as far an enabling students to explore concepts that involves role play and moving around their classroom (kinesthetic learning). My team and I have some experience here, but in order to design our activities to work in the"real world" we would like to interview teachers of the blind who work with kids in school settings. We are particularly interested to talk to a diverse set of teachers that include those who are sighted or who are visually impaired. Those interviewed will be entered into a drawing to win one of two $30 Amazon gift cards. If you are interested, please email me at: salvse at rit.edu. Thank you, --Stephanie Ludi ======================================= Stephanie Ludi, PhD Professor, Graduate Program Director Dept. of Software Engineering Rochester Institute of Technology Bldg 70-1696 Phone: 585.475.7407 Obligatory Text: CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this information. From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Thu Jul 9 02:08:07 2015 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:08:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] We are Live! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Chris, Thank you for all the hard work you put into making the online stream for the NABS business meeting possible. Not only did you deal with less than ideal conditions for the online stream, but you also kept us informed as to what was going on when you ran into problems. . I greatly appreciate your dedication and willingness to follow through in providing the online stream considering the technical challenges you faced in making the online stream possible. So thank you very much for allowing those of us who could not attend national convention this year the opportunity to listen to the NABS business meeting. Warm regards, Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:29 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: [nabs-l] We are Live! After all the technical difficulties, we're excited to announce that the stream of the NABS meeting is live! Go to kjscradio.com now to tune in. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Thu Jul 9 02:30:18 2015 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:30:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Arielle and All, I too was impressed by this year's NABS business meeting. I thought there were so many good speeches this year that it is difficult for me to pick a favorite. However, I agree with you about Sean's Presidential report. It definitely inspired me to want to get more involved with NABS and the NFB. Congratulations to those who were elected to the NABS board. I have already noticed some of your contributions to NABS before being elected to the NABS board, so I look forward to your continued efforts now that you have been elected to the NABS board. And for those of you that were elected to the NABS board that I do not know so well, I look forward to getting to know you over the next year. And finally, thank you to those of you who served on the NABS board but will no longer be serving on the NABS Board. You will definitely be missed, but I look forward to seeing what the future holds for you as you continue to be a part of the NFB. Warm regards, Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via nabs-l Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:27 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Arielle Silverman Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations! Hi all! I'm not at convention this year, but I enjoyed being able to follow much of the NABS meeting on the stream. Sean's presidential speech was invigorating and inspiring as usual. He even (almost) motivated me to get involved with legislation! Legislation is admittedly one of my least-favorite Federation activities so that is saying a lot. I was also touched to hear my former vice-president Karen Anderson's farewell words of wisdom to the organization. Congratulations to the continuing and newly elected NABS board: President, Sean Whalen First Vice-President, Candice Chapman Second Vice-President, Bre Brown Secretary, Kathryn Webster Treasurer, Derek Manners Board Member, Hindley Williams BoardMember, Chris Nusbaum Board Member, Michael Osbon Continuing Board Member, Garrett Mooney (apologies in advance for any misspellings). Congratulations also to the departing board members whose contributions will carry NABS forward in the years to come. Warmly, Arielle Silverman NABS past president (2009-2011) _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From gopgirl73 at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 03:01:41 2015 From: gopgirl73 at gmail.com (Sofia Gallo) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 23:01:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note Message-ID: Hi, does anyone know a website or store where i can sell a used (but in good condition) Apex? thanks! From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 12:20:42 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:20:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations! Message-ID: <559e6737.d252810a.ced1b.3b11@mx.google.com> Hi Elizabeth thanks for your message. We got back from vacation late Monday night so I fissed this year's Nabs business meeting. Congratulations to the new board members who were elected. I look forward to getting to know each of them. From matt.dierckens at me.com Thu Jul 9 13:28:34 2015 From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 09:28:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Sophia, How much are you looking to sell the notetaker for? God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer U.S. number: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierckens at me.com On Jul 8, 2015, at 23:01, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l wrote: Hi, does anyone know a website or store where i can sell a used (but in good condition) Apex? thanks! _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40me.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 19:17:19 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:17:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Funding Our Movement, It Must Be Done... Message-ID: Hey NABSters: We've all heard that old song—you know, the one which goes: "Get on the PAC plan, sign up today. We need your contributions right away!" You might think this is a rallying cry only for those deep-pocketed adults who don't have to worry about student loans, college tuitions, and shoestring SSI budgets. But it's also a call to action for you—yes you, the student who might not have a lot of money but who knows the life-changing value of the National Federation of the Blind and who is determined to keep our dream alive. If you are that student, we need you to stop by the PAC table at national convention and contribute to our PAC efforts. Every little bit helps; many of us are on the PAC plan for as little as $5, the cost of a cup of coffee at Starbucks. We give what we can. But whatever amount we contribute, we are committing to give back to the movement which has given us so much. So what's in it for me, you ask? Well, your contribution will allow NABS to increase our involvement in the PAC Plan and win the competition for the most engaged division in our organization. Further still, if we increase our PAC pledges, our national organization has committed to financially supporting our members in attending the 2016 Washington Seminar. That means if you want to attend our NABS winter seminar but are having financial difficulties, our national office will help you because of your contribution to the PAC Plan. We are currently #1 in our PAC competition, but those pesky parents are close behind. So let's show our Federation family what we students can do! Let's have an army of committed NABSters joining the PAC plan and dedicating ourselves to supporting our movement. If you're at convention, stop by the PAC table, mention you're with NABS, and build the Federation with us. We can do this—let's fund our movement together! Chris Nusbaum, Board Member National Association of Blind Students Sent from my iPhone From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 23:56:41 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 19:56:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Rewh Funding our movement- It Must be done Message-ID: <559f0a56.4261810a.f151e.ffffb3cc@mx.google.com> Dear Students, What is the pac plan and what are the benefits of giving to this fund? From jahmallovato at me.com Fri Jul 10 02:31:14 2015 From: jahmallovato at me.com (Jahmal Lovato) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 19:31:14 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Technology for sale. Message-ID: <559F2E72.7040406@me.com> Hello all, I hope you all are having a great convention! Its been fun so far! I'm selling an Apple Watch as well as a retail copy of Window-Eyes. I'm selling the Apple watch because I find that I don't use it as much as I anticipated I would when I bought it. I'm selling Window-Eyes because my primary OS is the Mac now. I'm asking $675.00 for both, or best offer. The apple watch is silver, stainless steal, with the millinese loop. Window-eyes is current with 2 SMA counts remaining. Feel free to reply to this e-mail or contact me at 505-615-2118 if interested. I"m here in Orlando until Saturday, after that I'll ship it to you if interested. Best, Jahmal Lovato From jonathancandler_msa at q.com Fri Jul 10 05:00:43 2015 From: jonathancandler_msa at q.com (Jonathan Candler) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 01:00:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] We are Live! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D19D486-508A-417A-9D16-351F58055D9C@q.com> We will be having archives up soon. Jonnyboy! Iphones rock! > On Jul 8, 2015, at 22:08, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello Chris, > > Thank you for all the hard work you put into making the online stream for > the NABS business meeting possible. Not only did you deal with less than > ideal conditions for the online stream, but you also kept us informed as to > what was going on when you ran into problems. . I greatly appreciate your > dedication and willingness to follow through in providing the online stream > considering the technical challenges you faced in making the online stream > possible. So thank you very much for allowing those of us who could not > attend national convention this year the opportunity to listen to the NABS > business meeting. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum > via nabs-l > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:29 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Chris Nusbaum > Subject: [nabs-l] We are Live! > > After all the technical difficulties, we're excited to announce that the > stream of the NABS meeting is live! Go to kjscradio.com now to tune in. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jonathancandler_msa%40q.com From tactiletaylor at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 13:00:42 2015 From: tactiletaylor at gmail.com (Taylor Durrett) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 08:00:42 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Reading Audiobooks from BARD and Learning Ally Straight from Your PC Computer References: <9F99DE0A-DCF8-4C67-A1EF-BB1517C06426@gmail.com> Message-ID: <432366D0-949F-4988-B5EB-AA3F082C847E@gmail.com> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Taylor Durrett > Date: July 10, 2015 at 7:57:38 AM CDT > To: nabsl at nfb.org > Subject: Reading Audiobooks from BARD and Learning Ally Straight from Your PC Computer > > Good morning, > I have a question about listening to Learning Ally and BARD audiobooks straight from your computer. I have both the Learning Ally and Bard apps on my iPad, but I'm just curious to know if there's an alternative way to just stream you books with either of these sites without an app or any other special software. > Thank you, and have a good day, > Taylor > > Sent from my iPhone From tactiletaylor at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 13:02:49 2015 From: tactiletaylor at gmail.com (Taylor Durrett) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 08:02:49 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Text Adventure Games on the Apex References: Message-ID: <1ADF0793-8D83-4314-9BB5-B6BAE274F50A@gmail.com> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Taylor Durrett > Date: July 10, 2015 at 7:45:06 AM CDT > To: "nabsl at nfb.org" > Subject: Text Adventure Games on the Apex > > Hello all, > I am trying to play one of the text adventure games that come on the Apex. The game is called Gourmet, where you are a chef at a restaurant. But I'm having trouble serving a container of soup and preparing a lobster. > I so far have 33 points, but I'm stuck at serving the soup. Does anyone know which game I'm talking about and how to move on? > Thanks, > Taylor > > Sent from my iPhone From jlhodges4 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 13:25:08 2015 From: jlhodges4 at gmail.com (Jessica Hodges) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 06:25:08 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Reading Audiobooks from BARD and Learning Ally Straight from Your PC Computer In-Reply-To: <432366D0-949F-4988-B5EB-AA3F082C847E@gmail.com> References: <9F99DE0A-DCF8-4C67-A1EF-BB1517C06426@gmail.com> <432366D0-949F-4988-B5EB-AA3F082C847E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello. Unfortunately, at this time, there is no way to read either service without special software, or apps. I think this is something they should rectify, but they do it for security reasons. I hope this helps. Jessica Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Taylor Durrett via nabs-l wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Taylor Durrett >> Date: July 10, 2015 at 7:57:38 AM CDT >> To: nabsl at nfb.org >> Subject: Reading Audiobooks from BARD and Learning Ally Straight from Your PC Computer >> >> Good morning, >> I have a question about listening to Learning Ally and BARD audiobooks straight from your computer. I have both the Learning Ally and Bard apps on my iPad, but I'm just curious to know if there's an alternative way to just stream you books with either of these sites without an app or any other special software. >> Thank you, and have a good day, >> Taylor >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Fri Jul 10 13:49:06 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:49:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Reading Audiobooks from BARD and Learning AllyStraight from Your PC Computer In-Reply-To: References: <9F99DE0A-DCF8-4C67-A1EF-BB1517C06426@gmail.com><432366D0-949F-4988-B5EB-AA3F082C847E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3725DDFCCE5C4AB49121F8A37EF01047@OwnerPC> Hi, while you cannot listen to bard books via your pc, you can download and unzip them and listen on many devices such as the victor stream or braille note. For learning ally, you can listen via your pc. Download the free read Here software and it should work. Also, I think freedom scientific's daisy player will read them too. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Jessica Hodges via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:25 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Jessica Hodges Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fwd: Reading Audiobooks from BARD and Learning AllyStraight from Your PC Computer Hello. Unfortunately, at this time, there is no way to read either service without special software, or apps. I think this is something they should rectify, but they do it for security reasons. I hope this helps. Jessica Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Taylor Durrett via nabs-l > wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Taylor Durrett >> Date: July 10, 2015 at 7:57:38 AM CDT >> To: nabsl at nfb.org >> Subject: Reading Audiobooks from BARD and Learning Ally Straight from >> Your PC Computer >> >> Good morning, >> I have a question about listening to Learning Ally and BARD audiobooks >> straight from your computer. I have both the Learning Ally and Bard apps >> on my iPad, but I'm just curious to know if there's an alternative way to >> just stream you books with either of these sites without an app or any >> other special software. >> Thank you, and have a good day, >> Taylor >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 14:00:58 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:00:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Text Adventure Games on the Apex In-Reply-To: <1ADF0793-8D83-4314-9BB5-B6BAE274F50A@gmail.com> References: <1ADF0793-8D83-4314-9BB5-B6BAE274F50A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <322C8F1D-A4A5-44EC-8D12-955E968BB1F1@gmail.com> Just type serve soup in the box Sent from my iPad > On Jul 10, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Taylor Durrett via nabs-l wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Taylor Durrett >> Date: July 10, 2015 at 7:45:06 AM CDT >> To: "nabsl at nfb.org" >> Subject: Text Adventure Games on the Apex >> >> Hello all, >> I am trying to play one of the text adventure games that come on the Apex. The game is called Gourmet, where you are a chef at a restaurant. But I'm having trouble serving a container of soup and preparing a lobster. >> I so far have 33 points, but I'm stuck at serving the soup. Does anyone know which game I'm talking about and how to move on? >> Thanks, >> Taylor >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From kmaent1 at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 06:41:01 2015 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 02:41:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Text Adventure Games on the Apex Message-ID: <55a0ba86.88df0d0a.65beb.ffffb4d4@mx.google.com> There is a file in the games folder that is a walkthrough for Gourmet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Taylor Durrett Message Hi all! How are you all? I just wanted to tell you that I'm going to be attending my University this Fall Semester, and I have some issues with my email inbox. The problem that i have is that the inbox is a Gmail account, but it is very hard to handle it. In other words, it is very difficult to find the forward, reply, and the attachment buttons in order to attached files. I use JAWS in my laptop computer. However, I do use Windows live mail in order to read my personal gmail account guys! What I wanted to ask you is, do you think would it be possible in putting my University email inbox in my Windows Live mail client in order fo rme to make it easier, in order to forward, compose, reply, and attached a file since I know how to use it? I'm just wondering. If this is possible to do, I will really appreciate it a lot if someone can help me with this since I'm going to start school in a month or so guys! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! :) Helga Schreiber Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter. Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 16:35:37 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:35:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Higher Ed Self-Advocacy Workshop TONIGHT at 6:00pm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <321FA14C-0D79-4EA0-BAC7-9C3699C351A4@gmail.com> Simon, It was not streamed, though I am sure most of us would be happy to speak with you about all content discussed. Please feel free to email me off list or call me with any questions or to learn more. Best, Kathryn Kathryn C. Webster (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Simon via nabs-l wrote: > > Thank you for posting this information. > > Will the forum be streamed for those unable to attend in person? > > -Simon Bonenfant > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:04 PM, "Sidhu,Mehgan via nabs-l" wrote: >> >> Please remember to come to the Self-Advocacy in Higher Education Workshop tonight starting at 6:00pm in Salon 5, Level 2. I look forward to seeing you there! >> >> SELF-ADVOCACY IN HIGHER EDUCATION: KNOWING YOUR RIGHTS AND GETTING IT DONE >> >> NFB Convention, Orlando >> July 8, 2015 >> 6 - 7:30 -Salon 5, level 2 >> >> A workshop for current or soon-to-be college and post-graduate students, parents of students, and state affiliate leaders. Get to know your rights as a blind student, best practices for ensuring an accessible college experience, and how to work together to ensure equality for blind students in our colleges and universities. Mehgan Sidhu, NFB General Counsel, Coordinator >> >> Moderator (Mehgan Sidhu) >> >> I. Introductory remarks from Sean Whalen, NABS President (Sean Whalen) 6 - 6:02 >> >> II. Know your legal rights (Mehgan Sidhu) 6:02 - 6:20 >> >> III. Understanding the SMART Act and the attitude shift on college campuses (Lauren McLarney, ) 6:20 - 6:35 >> >> IV. Tips and Tricks (Gabe Cazares) 6:20 - 6:35 >> >> V. Changing the landscape: Success Stories (Bob Kresmer, Justin Salisbury, Derek Manners, Kathryn Webster and Gabe Cazares) 6:35 - 7:05 >> >> V. How you can help the NFB advocate for student rights (Valerie Yingling and Lauren McLarney) 7:05 - 7:20 >> >> VI. Questions / Discussion (10 min) 7:20 - 7:30. >> >> Mehgan Sidhu >> General Counsel >> National Federation of the Blind >> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place >> Baltimore, Maryland 21230 >> Telephone 410-659-9314 ext. 2314 >> Fax: 410-659-5129 >> E-mail: msidhu at nfb.org >> Web site: www.nfb.org >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >> >> To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this information is prohibited. If this was sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 17:29:25 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 13:29:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Help In Putting My University Email Account into Windows Live Maile Email Client In-Reply-To: <4C37730C-9B69-4C84-8C78-24569DACA7CA@gmail.com> References: <4C37730C-9B69-4C84-8C78-24569DACA7CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18198F4F-D2F2-470E-81A2-0BCC6800F1AD@gmail.com> Congratulations very excited for you Sent from my iPad > On Jul 11, 2015, at 3:55 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l wrote: > > Message Hi all! How are you all? I just wanted to tell you that I'm going to be attending my University this Fall Semester, and I have some issues with my email inbox. The problem that i have is that the inbox is a Gmail account, but it is very hard to handle it. In other words, it is very difficult to find the forward, reply, and the attachment buttons in order to attached files. I use JAWS in my laptop computer. However, I do use Windows live mail in order to read my personal gmail account guys! What I wanted to ask you is, do you think would it be possible in putting my University email inbox in my Windows Live mail client in order fo rme to make it easier, in order to forward, compose, reply, and attached a file since I know how to use it? I'm just wondering. If this is possible to do, I will really appreciate it a lot if someone can help me with this since I'm going to start school in a month or so guys! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! :) > > Helga Schreiber > > Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter. > Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. > Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). > Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. > Phone: (561) 706-5950 > Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com > Skype: helga.schreiber26 > 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx > INT Website: http://int4life.com/ > > "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From mikgephart at icloud.com Sat Jul 11 17:36:41 2015 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 13:36:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: National Federation of the Blind Guinness world record umbrella mosaic References: Message-ID: Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jane > Date: July 11, 2015 at 12:33:22 PM EDT > To: Alice Eaddy , andrew rees , Ange Perone , ann marie harris , Anna DeSantis , Annemarie Cooke , annie buxton , anthony lanzilotti , barbara finan , brian keene , Brian Mackey , chrissy crotty , corey lloyd , dan facchini , darren jones , dominick petrillo , ED FEDUSH , ed godfrey , Eileen Scrivani , Eileen scrivani , ethel , fannie davis , Florence Blume , james hulme , jane degenshein , Jennifer Uchanow , Jerilyn Higgins , Jo Luland , joe Braz , joe ruffalo , Johanna Baccan <24kjo at optonline.net>, joslin santiago , ken lawrence , Kevin , les cameron , linda DeBerardinis , liz morgan , lori demarco , lydia keller , lynn reynolds , marie sawyer , Mario Brusco , mary jo partika , mary lorenz , Mel Ca , melissa wsp , michael halm , mikayla gephart , misty hagan , omar atin , pat bunce , paul agostinelli , REBECCA IRVIN , reggie lancaster , rick Fox , ryan stevens , steve smith , tara carty , tom Ferry , Tony Santiago , warren roseland , wayne genz , William L Totten > Subject: Fw: National Federation of the Blind Guinness world record umbrella mosaic > > hello All > Just thought I would share our GWR > 2480 in this > woo hoo > > -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Moreno > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:28 AM > To: Jane Degenshein > Subject: National Federation of the Blind Guinness world record umbrella mosaic > > Janie > madeline and I think we heard you. It is a great video! However I had to eat two extra meals to make up for all the weight I lost in the heat! Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://youtu.be/OeMp9TjbHXY > > > > Jerry > > Sent from my iPhone > > Keep Smiling, > Janie Degenshein > "Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have" > Facilitator of ECHO > (Eyes Closed Hearts Open) > President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division > President National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Technology Division > jdegen16 at comcast.net From jsoro620 at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 20:30:05 2015 From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 16:30:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d0bc18$5f5fdf60$1e1f9e20$@gmail.com> Hi, which model of the Apex are you selling, and for how much? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sofia Gallo via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:02 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Sofia Gallo Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note Hi, does anyone know a website or store where i can sell a used (but in good condition) Apex? thanks! _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro620%40gmail.com From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 15:20:38 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:20:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note In-Reply-To: <000001d0bc18$5f5fdf60$1e1f9e20$@gmail.com> References: <000001d0bc18$5f5fdf60$1e1f9e20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Sophia, It sounds like you might have some interested takers here, but I believe Blind Bargains allows people to post notices about technology. Don't quote me on it, but I think it can be done so you ight want to check it out. You can also send a written notice to Gary Wunder for inclusion in the next Braille Monitor. Sometimes ads like that are placed in the Monitor Miniatures or notes sections at the back for people to look through Those are my suggestions. I hope they help. On 7/11/15, Joe via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, which model of the Apex are you selling, and for how much? Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sofia Gallo > via > nabs-l > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:02 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Sofia Gallo > Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note > > Hi, does anyone know a website or store where i can sell a used (but in > good > condition) Apex? > > thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro620%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti From tonysohl at samobile.net Sun Jul 12 15:26:50 2015 From: tonysohl at samobile.net (Tony Sohl) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:26:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <110d4bbb.0754.42bd.9f33.3f784634646f@samobile.net> Hi you can sell things on Blind Bargains,but I believe there's a cost but I'm not sure. From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 15:44:13 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:44:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <110d4bbb.0754.42bd.9f33.3f784634646f@samobile.net> References: <110d4bbb.0754.42bd.9f33.3f784634646f@samobile.net> Message-ID: I'd recommend looking at past issues of the Monitor regardless of whether or not you choose to post on Blind Bargains. That way you have a free outlet to post your sale and can see how others have posted theirs. You would want to include all the model information and what the unit will come with (If you are selling items like the adapter and case with it, for example). If you look at the sale ads you can see how it is written usually. Gary Wunder can also offer tips or advice if he sees anything that might be necessary for readers to know. On 7/12/15, Tony Sohl via nabs-l wrote: > Hi you can sell things on Blind Bargains,but I believe there's a cost > but I'm not sure. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From louvins at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 15:49:48 2015 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:49:48 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note In-Reply-To: References: <000001d0bc18$5f5fdf60$1e1f9e20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've never posted on blindbargain, but I believe it costs $5 per add on the site. There are also a couple of blind selling lists where you can advertise items for sale. How much are you wanting for your apex? On 7/12/15, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, Sophia, > > It sounds like you might have some interested takers here, but I > believe Blind Bargains allows people to post notices about technology. > Don't quote me on it, but I think it can be done so you ight want to > check it out. You can also send a written notice to Gary Wunder for > inclusion in the next Braille Monitor. Sometimes ads like that are > placed in the Monitor Miniatures or notes sections at the back for > people to look through Those are my suggestions. I hope they help. > > On 7/11/15, Joe via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi, which model of the Apex are you selling, and for how much? Thanks. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sofia Gallo >> via >> nabs-l >> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:02 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Sofia Gallo >> Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note >> >> Hi, does anyone know a website or store where i can sell a used (but in >> good >> condition) Apex? >> >> thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro620%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 20:41:21 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 16:41:21 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Free braille books Message-ID: Hi, everyone, At convention there were announcements to see Pat Maurer in the back of sessions for information on how to get free braille books for children. I'm tutoring a little girl in braille this summer who I think would benefit from this program, but I wasn't able to get back there myself. If anyone was able to get that information and can share that with me I would appreciate it. I've tried looking for a web page on nfbnet.org but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From valandkayla at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 21:04:11 2015 From: valandkayla at gmail.com (Valerie Gibson) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:04:11 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Free braille books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63310E1D-7E8A-47FC-B117-771568C48907@gmail.com> Hi, If you don't find what you're looking for, I have quite a few children's books that need a loving home. Write me off list if you, or anyone else, is interested. I'd say i've got about 20ish books. > On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi, everyone, > > At convention there were announcements to see Pat Maurer in the back > of sessions for information on how to get free braille books for > children. I'm tutoring a little girl in braille this summer who I > think would benefit from this program, but I wasn't able to get back > there myself. If anyone was able to get that information and can > share that with me I would appreciate it. I've tried looking for a > web page on nfbnet.org but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/valandkayla%40gmail.com From louvins at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 22:06:54 2015 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 17:06:54 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Free braille books In-Reply-To: <63310E1D-7E8A-47FC-B117-771568C48907@gmail.com> References: <63310E1D-7E8A-47FC-B117-771568C48907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Kaiti. A good source for children's books in braille that are low cost is seedlings braille books for children. There website is www.seedlings.org. Some of there books cost as low as$5. They have books for all ages from 0 to 14. On 7/12/15, Valerie Gibson via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, > > If you don't find what you're looking for, I have quite a few children's > books that need a loving home. Write me off list if you, or anyone else, is > interested. > > I'd say i've got about 20ish books. >> On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Hi, everyone, >> >> At convention there were announcements to see Pat Maurer in the back >> of sessions for information on how to get free braille books for >> children. I'm tutoring a little girl in braille this summer who I >> think would benefit from this program, but I wasn't able to get back >> there myself. If anyone was able to get that information and can >> share that with me I would appreciate it. I've tried looking for a >> web page on nfbnet.org but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. >> -- >> Kaiti Shelton >> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present >> Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts >> Division 2015-2016 >> >> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/valandkayla%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > From tonysohl at samobile.net Sun Jul 12 23:13:06 2015 From: tonysohl at samobile.net (Tony Sohl) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:13:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Free braille books Message-ID: <9219bce2.c9fd.47de.b899.8f56860114f2@samobile.net> Hi KHi Katie, I have some books that you arewelcome to have and if you want to emailme off the list, my email is: tonysohl at samobile.net From matt.dierckens at me.com Mon Jul 13 00:33:10 2015 From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:33:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note In-Reply-To: References: <000001d0bc18$5f5fdf60$1e1f9e20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5DCC33FA-DE22-4B64-9508-7E64051C33B6@me.com> To sell an item on Blind Bargains it will cost you $5. On Jul 12, 2015, at 11:20, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: Hi, Sophia, It sounds like you might have some interested takers here, but I believe Blind Bargains allows people to post notices about technology. Don't quote me on it, but I think it can be done so you ight want to check it out. You can also send a written notice to Gary Wunder for inclusion in the next Braille Monitor. Sometimes ads like that are placed in the Monitor Miniatures or notes sections at the back for people to look through Those are my suggestions. I hope they help. On 7/11/15, Joe via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, which model of the Apex are you selling, and for how much? Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sofia Gallo > via > nabs-l > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:02 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Sofia Gallo > Subject: [nabs-l] Question about selling braille note > > Hi, does anyone know a website or store where i can sell a used (but in > good > condition) Apex? > > thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro620%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40me.com From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 06:43:50 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 02:43:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Free braille books In-Reply-To: <9219bce2.c9fd.47de.b899.8f56860114f2@samobile.net> References: <9219bce2.c9fd.47de.b899.8f56860114f2@samobile.net> Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks so much. I'll be contacting the two of you with books to see if any are around her age and grade level or a bit higher. She's pretty smart so it would be nice for her to have some books to move up to. I already know about the usual sources for braille books like Seedlings and APH's programs, NLS, etc, but was looking for information that was offered at convention specifically. If anyone still has that information that would be great. Thanks. On 7/12/15, Tony Sohl via nabs-l wrote: > Hi KHi Katie, I have some books that you arewelcome to have and if you > want to emailme off the list, my email is: tonysohl at samobile.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 06:46:22 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 02:46:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Free braille books In-Reply-To: References: <9219bce2.c9fd.47de.b899.8f56860114f2@samobile.net> Message-ID: PS: I forgot to mention I've already told her mom about those sources I mentioned before as well. She's even entered into the drawing Seedlings is having and I've told her about the book angel program. I also should mention that non-interpoint books are better at this point though interpoint is also fine, and this student does not have access to digital books currently as she does not have a notetaker. I hope this other information is helpful-I'll try calling to see if the staff is back in the office at the national center what is now this morning as well. On 7/13/15, Kaiti Shelton wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks so much. I'll be contacting the two of you with books to see > if any are around her age and grade level or a bit higher. She's > pretty smart so it would be nice for her to have some books to move up > to. I already know about the usual sources for braille books like > Seedlings and APH's programs, NLS, etc, but was looking for > information that was offered at convention specifically. If anyone > still has that information that would be great. Thanks. > > On 7/12/15, Tony Sohl via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi KHi Katie, I have some books that you arewelcome to have and if you >> want to emailme off the list, my email is: tonysohl at samobile.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 11:31:03 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 07:31:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] We need your help! References: Message-ID: <06786157-4986-476C-AFDA-FBC53EDFC57B@gmail.com> Morning friends! If increasing accessibility on websites does not hook you enough, each filled out survey will add an additional $5 to our national treasury. Please help! Of course, let me know if you have any questions. See message below: I really need your help, and I’m willing to donate $5 to the NFB for each fully completed survey. Again, name is Alex and I’m a blind Ph.D. candidate in marketing at Drexel University. All of my research is about creating a more inclusive marketplace for the blind and vision impaired. I am currently working on two studies regarding the accessibility of retail websites and the official websites for sports teams. I really need your help with a preliminary test for this research, and would greatly appreciate you taking a few minutes to participate in one or both of the online surveys. I need 50-75 responses, and the deadline is July 14 at noon. The information for each study including the link is below. Thank you for your kind consideration in helping me to create greater awareness for this problem. > Study One > We would like to know about your thoughts and opinions about being a sports fan, and your experience with using your favorite team’s official website. > Before we even start, can we invite you to visit your favorite professional or collegiate team's official website? This will make the experience of navigating the website fresh in your mind. You can do that through www.nfl.com, www.nba.com, www.mlb.com, www.nhl.com, or your favorite collegiate team's official website. After that you may take the survey by using the link provided below this text. A donation will be made to the St. Lucy Day School for Visually Impaired Children for each completed survey. You may contact me at ahc43 at drexel.edu if you are having any difficulty. Again, the link to the survey is below this text. > http://drexel.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6VFbbpHvq9ZS7Ot > > Study Two > I am doing research to find out how consumers with visual impairments react when a retailer’s website is not accessible. There are two different scenarios. The first is how you would react if the homepage was inaccessible. The second is how you would react if a transaction couldn’t be made due to inaccessibility issues. The survey should take about 10 minutes.. > A donation will be made to the St. Lucy Day School for Visually Impaired Children for each completed survey. > If you are having any difficulty, you may contact me at ahc43 at drexel.edu. The link is below. > http://drexel.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_73rF25cjE7gFYJD > > _______________________________________________ > Nfbnet-members-list mailing list > Nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org > List archives: > To unsubscribe from Nfbnet-members-list: > goto http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbnet-members-list_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 14:17:59 2015 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (rahul) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 19:47:59 +0530 Subject: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call Message-ID: <00f901d0bd76$bbdf2b60$339d8220$@gmail.com> Hi All, Whenever I am in the middle of acall and am required to enter a code, for entering a conference call for instance, the phone repeatedly switches from the speaker to the earpiece and back even if one is holding the phone in the very same position. As a result, while one is entering the code, the speaker mode automatically gets deactivated, thereby making it impossible to enter the code. What can one do to grapple with this situation? Best, Rahul From shawnabraham21 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 16:40:38 2015 From: shawnabraham21 at gmail.com (Shawn Abraham) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 12:40:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call Message-ID: <55a3ea0e.a11a370a.2b556.5ab7@mx.google.com> Rahul, When I'm on a conference call, I use earbuds or headphones to help with this. It works every time. ----- Original Message ----- From: rahul via nabs-l References: <00f901d0bd76$bbdf2b60$339d8220$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001001d0bd90$1d756ec0$58604c40$@gmail.com> I'm experiencing the same thing. I've found that sometimes using ear plugs works better, but that is not always possible. Can anyone enlighten us? Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of rahul via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 10:18 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: rahul Subject: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call Hi All, Whenever I am in the middle of acall and am required to enter a code, for entering a conference call for instance, the phone repeatedly switches from the speaker to the earpiece and back even if one is holding the phone in the very same position. As a result, while one is entering the code, the speaker mode automatically gets deactivated, thereby making it impossible to enter the code. What can one do to grapple with this situation? Best, Rahul _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Mon Jul 13 17:57:28 2015 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 12:57:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call In-Reply-To: <001001d0bd90$1d756ec0$58604c40$@gmail.com> References: <00f901d0bd76$bbdf2b60$339d8220$@gmail.com> <001001d0bd90$1d756ec0$58604c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have had better results if I make sure to put my phone by my ear and then moving it away triggering the speaker phone. That seems to result in the phone remaining in speaker mode more consistently. However, using an ear plug definitely works the most reliably for me. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin williams via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:20 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: justin williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call I'm experiencing the same thing. I've found that sometimes using ear plugs works better, but that is not always possible. Can anyone enlighten us? Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of rahul via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 10:18 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: rahul Subject: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call Hi All, Whenever I am in the middle of acall and am required to enter a code, for entering a conference call for instance, the phone repeatedly switches from the speaker to the earpiece and back even if one is holding the phone in the very same position. As a result, while one is entering the code, the speaker mode automatically gets deactivated, thereby making it impossible to enter the code. What can one do to grapple with this situation? Best, Rahul _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m From redwing731 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 18:12:17 2015 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schafer) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:12:17 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call In-Reply-To: <00f901d0bd76$bbdf2b60$339d8220$@gmail.com> References: <00f901d0bd76$bbdf2b60$339d8220$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <79DC1AD4-A242-4D25-99AD-E8321B659A06@gmail.com> Hi all! I found that any kind of headphones works for this. Bluetooth headphones might be the best for you. They allow you to talk on the phone hands free and they allow you to use the keypad. Kendra Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:17 AM, rahul via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Whenever I am in the middle of acall and am required to enter a code, for > entering a conference call for instance, the phone repeatedly switches from > the speaker to the earpiece and back even if one is holding the phone in the > very same position. As a result, while one is entering the code, the speaker > mode automatically gets deactivated, thereby making it impossible to enter > the code. What can one do to grapple with this situation? > > > > Best, > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com From laurel.stockard at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 18:35:04 2015 From: laurel.stockard at gmail.com (Laurel) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:35:04 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Festival or eSpeak text to speech Message-ID: Hi all, My name is Laurel. I've been a long time member of the list but I'm somewhat of a lurker. I read a lot but rarely ever write. I'll try and write more. :) I'm a student at the University of Oklahoma, and I study foreign languages. I'm looking for others who have had any experience with eSpeak and Festival. Both programs are tts, or text to speech, programs and appear to be open source, meaning one can modify the voices a bit. I use eSpeak on the windows side of my mac through VM Fusion and would like to configure Espeak to work in Mac OS. I would also like to look into the possibility of using Festival, which apparently works already on Mac os without any modifying. I'm specifically interested in these 2 text to speech engines because of their multilingual capabilities. So would anyone who has experience with eSpeak either on windows or in a mac, or anyone who knows something about Festival, please contact me? I would appreciate greatly the opportunity to network with you and gain some help and knowledge for a couple language projects I am working on. Thanks so much, my email is laurel.Stockard at gmail.com if someone wants to reply privately as not to clutter the list, or you can reply on list, either is fine with me. Laurel From hbwilliams16 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 18:36:10 2015 From: hbwilliams16 at gmail.com (Hindley Williams) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:36:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] July NABS Notes Request for State Updates Message-ID: Hello everyone! Hope you all had an enjoyable convention, or were able to listen in via the live stream. Now that convention is over and we are all back in our respective states, NABS wants to hear from you! If your state has any updates to share with the NABS community -- any updates from convention, an announcement of when and where your state convention is, or anything else that your state student division would like to share -- please send them to me at hbwilliams16 at gmail.com. The deadline for announcements to be included is this Sunday, July 19, so please get them into me so that they will be included! I look forward to seeing all of your updates and announcements! Best, Hindley -- Hindley Williams Summer Intern National Federation of the Blind 200 East Wells Street Baltimore, Maryland 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2527 hbwilliams16 at gmail.com The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture. From clearinghouse at miusa.org Mon Jul 13 19:11:56 2015 From: clearinghouse at miusa.org (NCDE Clearinghouse) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 12:11:56 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] MIUSA Podcast Launched! In-Reply-To: <003d01d0bd9e$d6adef30$8409cd90$@miusa.org> References: <003d01d0bd9e$d6adef30$8409cd90$@miusa.org> Message-ID: <000c01d0bd9f$c9f37610$5dda6230$@miusa.org> Dear students! I'm excited to share with you Mobility International USA's first podcast for our #BlindAbroad campaign! Ripple Effects: Travelers with Disabilities Abroad is our podcast where we listen to vivid stories from people with disabilities going abroad, their practical tips, and the positive impact these experiences have on shifting ideas of what is possible. We have two episodes and will release at 2-3 episodes/month. Please share this with your networks and social media! You can find more information below: Podcast website: http://www.miusa.org/resource/podcast/rippleeffects Listen Now on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/mobilityinternationalusa Subscribe with iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ripple-effects/id1009426619?mt=2 Thank you so much and we hope you enjoy and SHARE!!! Best, Monica Monica Malhotra Project Coordinator, National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange Mobility International USA (MIUSA) 132 E Broadway, Suite 343 Eugene, Oregon 97401 USA (541) 343-1284 ext 27 Email: mmalhotra at miusa.org Web: www.miusa.org Are you a MIUSA alum? Complete our survey to stay in touch, or share it with your fellow alumni! Visit http://ow.ly/NQmgY Empowering people with disabilities around the world to achieve their human rights through international exchange and international development. From sweetpeareader at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 20:29:37 2015 From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:29:37 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] preparing to attend LCB! Message-ID: <55a41fc6.4a65460a.250e.46cf@mx.google.com> Hello NABS Friends, Exactly one week from today, I will be starting my adult training at the Louisiana Center for the Blind. As you can imagine, my family and I are scrambling to get me packed. LCB is closed for summer break right now, so I thought I'd ask you guys a couple of questions since I know many of you have attended LCB. 1. Is wifi provided? On the LCB website, it says that internet and cable services can be installed in the apartments at the student's expense, but I'm not sure what that means. If my roommate has already installed wifi, will we share the cost? I don't even know who my roommate is going to be. Is there any way I could find this out? 2. Does the apartment have one or two bathrooms? This will determine what kind of suplies I bring. Thank you for your help, and any other tips for LCB newbies will be much appreciated. Yours, Sophie From mabelin_r at hotmail.com Mon Jul 13 21:07:06 2015 From: mabelin_r at hotmail.com (Mabelin Ramirez) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:07:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Rehab centers Message-ID: Hello everyone, my name is Mabelin. I'm still trying to figure out what rehab center I'd like to attend, does anyone have any suggestions, many people have suggested attending the Colorado Center for the Blind, but I'm not sure which one to attend. I have three choices, either South Dakota Rehabilitation Center, Louisiana Center for the Blind, or Colorado center for the blind. The links for the sites will be provided below. http://coloradocenterfortheblind.org That's the first link. http://www.louisianacenter.org And, https://dhs.sd.gov/sbvi/sdrc.aspx. Please take a look at each site and send me an email with your thoughts. I'd like your input. Please help, I'd love your help. Sincerely, Mabelin From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Mon Jul 13 22:25:07 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:25:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Rehab centers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't think you can go wrong with an NFB training center. Most of my most successful friends have attended LCB in Louisiana or Blind Inc. in Minnesota. The real key is what areas you are looking to improve in the most. Best regards Derek Manners Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Mabelin Ramirez via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, my name is Mabelin. I'm still trying to figure out what rehab center I'd like to attend, does anyone have any suggestions, many people have suggested attending the Colorado Center for the Blind, but I'm not sure which one to attend. I have three choices, either South Dakota Rehabilitation Center, Louisiana Center for the Blind, or Colorado center for the blind. The links for the sites will be provided below. > > http://coloradocenterfortheblind.org > That's the first link. > http://www.louisianacenter.org > And, https://dhs.sd.gov/sbvi/sdrc.aspx. > Please take a look at each site and send me an email with your thoughts. > I'd like your input. > Please help, > I'd love your help. > > Sincerely, > Mabelin > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From jordystringer83 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 00:10:06 2015 From: jordystringer83 at gmail.com (Jordy Stringer) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:10:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Rehab centers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8057C8D8-EF9F-4447-AD09-74F66EEB3D03@gmail.com> I too agree with Derek. When it comes to our structured the discovery Center's, there's none in the world that compares. You won't go wrong no matter where you choose to go. My personal opinion is slightly biased, as I was a staff member at blind Inc., but have 100% faith in all three centers. I hope this helps, warmly. Sent from the iPhone of Jordy D Stringer President, performing arts division, national Federation of the blind > On Jul 13, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Derek Manners via nabs-l wrote: > > I don't think you can go wrong with an NFB training center. Most of my most successful friends have attended LCB in Louisiana or Blind Inc. in Minnesota. > > The real key is what areas you are looking to improve in the most. > > Best regards > Derek Manners > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Mabelin Ramirez via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, my name is Mabelin. I'm still trying to figure out what rehab center I'd like to attend, does anyone have any suggestions, many people have suggested attending the Colorado Center for the Blind, but I'm not sure which one to attend. I have three choices, either South Dakota Rehabilitation Center, Louisiana Center for the Blind, or Colorado center for the blind. The links for the sites will be provided below. >> >> http://coloradocenterfortheblind.org >> That's the first link. >> http://www.louisianacenter.org >> And, https://dhs.sd.gov/sbvi/sdrc.aspx. >> Please take a look at each site and send me an email with your thoughts. >> I'd like your input. >> Please help, >> I'd love your help. >> >> Sincerely, >> Mabelin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordystringer83%40gmail.com From jordystringer83 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 00:15:48 2015 From: jordystringer83 at gmail.com (Jordy Stringer) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:15:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks to the nabs leadership team. Message-ID: Greetings to all of my Federation family. I want to take a moment to thank the national Association of blind students leadership team for inviting the performing arts division to participate in helping to raise funds for the students this year. We were so happy, and proud to be a part of helping blind students live the lives they want. A special shout out from me, Jordy, goes to Sean, Catherine, and candace. There are so many more people who are an intricate part of making the student division run I couldn't possibly name the mall. And to all of you I say thank you 100 times! I believe this year was the beginning of a beautiful relationship between national divisions. I want to take one more moment to congratulate all of the scholarship recently and's. Your dedication and passion for this organization has been recognized, and we look forward to what the future holds. It is with gratitude and love I send this message! Sincerely, Jordy D. Stringer Sent from the iPhone of Jordy D Stringer President, performing arts division, national Federation of the blind From dsmithnfb at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 00:22:46 2015 From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:22:46 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Rehab centers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B1B43CF-17D2-4B32-8375-185E8F95E92E@gmail.com> Hello, The truth of the matter is that while any of us can suggest a center, I think many of us would suggest doing the research for yourself. I think that many of us on this list might suggest that you attend one of our NFB sponsored adjustment to blindness training centers such as CCB, LCB and BLIND Inc. I do think your research ought to start there. our centers in those locations bring about the results that truly speak for themselves, as they challenge you to think about blindness as something which is respectable as opposed to something to hide. Our centers in every true sense challenge you to raise your expectations of blind people and do in every true sense of the word allow you to live the life you want. I hope you take the opportunity to check out all three of those centers and do be in touch with us should you have any questions! take care and good luck, Darian > On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Mabelin Ramirez via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, my name is Mabelin. I'm still trying to figure out what rehab center I'd like to attend, does anyone have any suggestions, many people have suggested attending the Colorado Center for the Blind, but I'm not sure which one to attend. I have three choices, either South Dakota Rehabilitation Center, Louisiana Center for the Blind, or Colorado center for the blind. The links for the sites will be provided below. > > http://coloradocenterfortheblind.org > That's the first link. > http://www.louisianacenter.org > And, https://dhs.sd.gov/sbvi/sdrc.aspx. > Please take a look at each site and send me an email with your thoughts. > I'd like your input. > Please help, > I'd love your help. > > Sincerely, > Mabelin > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Tue Jul 14 00:44:53 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:44:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks to the nabs leadership team. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D0F58D6-9C0B-4DAF-B1CE-9D7B7EDF36E7@jd16.law.harvard.edu> Jordy, we appreciate your participation in Penny Wars. You guys were an intricate part of making this a success. If you have any feedback, please feel free to contact me off list. Best regards Derek Manners Fundraising Chair NABS Treasurer Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Jordy Stringer via nabs-l wrote: > > Greetings to all of my Federation family. I want to take a moment to thank the national Association of blind students leadership team for inviting the performing arts division to participate in helping to raise funds for the students this year. We were so happy, and proud to be a part of helping blind students live the lives they want. A special shout out from me, Jordy, goes to Sean, Catherine, and candace. There are so many more people who are an intricate part of making the student division run I couldn't possibly name the mall. And to all of you I say thank you 100 times! > I believe this year was the beginning of a beautiful relationship between national divisions. I want to take one more moment to congratulate all of the scholarship recently and's. Your dedication and passion for this organization has been recognized, and we look forward to what the future holds. > It is with gratitude and love I send this message! > Sincerely, > Jordy D. Stringer > > Sent from the iPhone of Jordy D Stringer > President, performing arts division, national Federation of the blind > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From amykhatten at hotmail.com Tue Jul 14 01:19:28 2015 From: amykhatten at hotmail.com (Amy Hatten) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:19:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Rehab centers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Mabeline, I would suggest to check them all out. I have also attended the training center in South Dakota as well, but it is very different then an NFB structured discovery training program. It also depends on what areas you want to focus on. I, personally, think that the South Dakota training center's assistive technology classes and Braille classes could be a lot better and taught much differently. The Orientation and Mobility instructor they have had for years that taught using more of a structured discovery approach just retired, unfortunately, so I do not know how their Orientation and Mobility classes are now. Don't get me wrong, South Dakota Rehab Center, is good, but very different and not comparable to an NFB Center. If you'd like to contact me off list: e-mail me at amykhatten at hotmail.com. I'd be more than glad to talk to you about my experience at the South Dakota Rehab Center. Thanks, Amy > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:07:06 -0400 > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Rehab centers > From: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > CC: mabelin_r at hotmail.com > > Hello everyone, my name is Mabelin. I'm still trying to figure out what rehab center I'd like to attend, does anyone have any suggestions, many people have suggested attending the Colorado Center for the Blind, but I'm not sure which one to attend. I have three choices, either South Dakota Rehabilitation Center, Louisiana Center for the Blind, or Colorado center for the blind. The links for the sites will be provided below. > > http://coloradocenterfortheblind.org > That's the first link. > http://www.louisianacenter.org > And, https://dhs.sd.gov/sbvi/sdrc.aspx. > Please take a look at each site and send me an email with your thoughts. > I'd like your input. > Please help, > I'd love your help. > > Sincerely, > Mabelin > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amykhatten%40hotmail.com From arielle71 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 02:37:47 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 19:37:47 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] preparing to attend LCB! In-Reply-To: <55a41fc6.4a65460a.250e.46cf@mx.google.com> References: <55a41fc6.4a65460a.250e.46cf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Sophie. Congrats on getting to go to LCB. What a wonderful opportunity! When I was there, each apartment had two bedrooms and one bathroom. You and your roommate would share the bathroom and have your own bedrooms. Yes, if your roommate already has Internet set up, you can just pay her for half the bill. There's a chance you might be alone in your apartment if their apartments are not full. However, summer is usually pretty busy for LCB since many students start their training right after school lets out. So you will probably have a roommate. If you are curious who it will be, you can try emailing Pam at pallen at lcb-ruston.com I know they are on break but sometimes she checks email remotely. When you arrive, the residential manager will orient you to the apartments and tell you who to contact to set up Internet if you don't have a roommate. From what I remember, linens and towels are provided, but not dishes. You can share dishes with your roommate or purchase some at WalMart after you arrive. Utilities like electricity and gas are provided by LCB in your apartments at no cost to you. If you have more questions, you can email me off list: arielle71 at gmail.com Best, Arielle On 7/13/15, Sophie Trist via nabs-l wrote: > Hello NABS Friends, > > Exactly one week from today, I will be starting my adult training > at the Louisiana Center for the Blind. As you can imagine, my > family and I are scrambling to get me packed. LCB is closed for > summer break right now, so I thought I'd ask you guys a couple of > questions since I know many of you have attended LCB. > 1. Is wifi provided? On the LCB website, it says that internet > and cable services can be installed in the apartments at the > student's expense, but I'm not sure what that means. If my > roommate has already installed wifi, will we share the cost? I > don't even know who my roommate is going to be. Is there any way > I could find this out? > 2. Does the apartment have one or two bathrooms? This will > determine what kind of suplies I bring. > Thank you for your help, and any other tips for LCB newbies will > be much appreciated. > > Yours, > Sophie > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 06:09:04 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 02:09:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Open conference call: OABS presents a call on study abroad Message-ID: Hi, NABSters, There was quite a bit of talk at convention about blind people going abroad to work or study. Perhaps you heard Justin Harford speak at NABS about the #BlindAbroad campaign or Serena Olsen speak about her Peace Corps work in Kurgystan. Maybe both. The Ohio Association of Blind Students will be hosting a call this Thursday and will be taking advantage of these resources discussed at convention to feature a panel of great advisors and students like you who have traversed the globe. Juanita from Abroad With Disabilities, a non-profit organization which empowers students with disabilities to study abroad, will be on the call and might be bringing one of her team members. Juanita founded AWD and has assembled an experienced and worldly team of fellow students who are great sources of information on studying abroad. Serena Olsen has also been invited to join the panel, and will be there if timing and her travels allow. I, Kaiti Shelton, will also sit on the panel as a student who just completed a study abroad program in Jamaica at the end of June. Someone from Mobility International USA may also make an appearance to speak with us about the #BlindAbroad campaign, of which I am a proud supporter on twitter. If you've ever had dreams of Spanish emersion programs, or just casually asking where you might find the loo, the Ohio Association of Blind Students has you covered. To join the call please dial the following shortly before 7:30 PM. The call will start promptly out of respect for our guests. Phone: 218)339-0896 Code: 78833687 or the word students. We hope to see some of you there as we discuss studying and working abroad as a way to live the life you want! -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From carlymih at comcast.net Tue Jul 14 20:28:15 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:28:15 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] IEP meeting in senior year of high school In-Reply-To: <0NOO001BF5W6SV30@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0NOO001BF5W6SV30@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Afternoon, Sami, I had IEP's both junior and senior years. At my final high school sit-down, my resource teacher, my mother and I talked about how at the time, I envisioned my future might grow to look.. per my own experience, a light heart and a happy intention might characterize this coming together. Keep us posted. Car , not my senior year since after that I'll be going to college, and therefore will not have an IEP for that. >Looking forward to hearing from you, and good luck with studying and >taking your exams! > >Thanks in advance, > >Sami. > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 00:00:47 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 20:00:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] preparing to attend LCB! Message-ID: <55a5a2d6.021f810a.9195.ffffae91@mx.google.com> Hi Sophie I hope your training goes well. I would assume that wfi is provided at all of the Nfb training centers. I think that Chris Nasbum had limited access to the internet and email when he was there. From redwing731 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:05:16 2015 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schafer) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:05:16 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: Message-ID: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> Hi all! I'm going to take at least one class at Chemeketa in the fall. One of them is online. Does anyone know if an online program called Black Board accessible to students that use Voice Over? I need to know ahead of time because it will help me. That will be great!!! Thank you!!! Kendra Sent from my iPhone From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Wed Jul 15 02:43:33 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 22:43:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: In-Reply-To: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> References: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7264C302-281A-439F-9511-DF6C37D5ABAF@jd16.law.harvard.edu> It's sort of accessible but it's definitely got major issues with VoiceOver. Jaws works a lot better. Best regard Derek Manners Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kendra Schafer via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi all! > I'm going to take at least one class at Chemeketa in the fall. One of them is online. Does anyone know if an online program called Black Board accessible to students that use Voice Over? I need to know ahead of time because it will help me. That will be great!!! Thank you!!! > Kendra > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From redwing731 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:51:28 2015 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schafer) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:51:28 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: In-Reply-To: <7264C302-281A-439F-9511-DF6C37D5ABAF@jd16.law.harvard.edu> References: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> <7264C302-281A-439F-9511-DF6C37D5ABAF@jd16.law.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <2D72FDEF-8236-439D-8D65-12EA7B440653@gmail.com> Hi all! What vertion of JAWS is required? I still have JAWS 9.0 which is a dinesore in the technology world. Kendra Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Derek Manners wrote: > > It's sort of accessible but it's definitely got major issues with VoiceOver. Jaws works a lot better. > > Best regard > Derek Manners > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kendra Schafer via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> I'm going to take at least one class at Chemeketa in the fall. One of them is online. Does anyone know if an online program called Black Board accessible to students that use Voice Over? I need to know ahead of time because it will help me. That will be great!!! Thank you!!! >> Kendra >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From mausbun at unr.edu Wed Jul 15 05:26:13 2015 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 05:26:13 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: In-Reply-To: <2D72FDEF-8236-439D-8D65-12EA7B440653@gmail.com> References: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> <7264C302-281A-439F-9511-DF6C37D5ABAF@jd16.law.harvard.edu>, <2D72FDEF-8236-439D-8D65-12EA7B440653@gmail.com> Message-ID: <79E0714D132BCB43A4B18D328D9A445B01231C0B@UBOX3.unr.edu> Hello there, My university utilizes blackboard extensively. The phone-based application is accessible, but the web-based application needs a lot of work. For example, the discussion board—used in most online courses—is sometimes accessible with JAWS, but sometimes not. Plus, it crashes almost every day. The website is about 85%accessible with JAWS 11 and up; however, since I have not used JAWS in several years, I cannot speak to it. I would highly recommend NVDA, fore it works great, and last I heard, it is still free. I hope this helps! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Kendra Schafer via nabs-l [nabs-l at nfbnet.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:51 PM To: Derek Manners Cc: Kendra Schafer; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessability question: Hi all! What vertion of JAWS is required? I still have JAWS 9.0 which is a dinesore in the technology world. Kendra Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Derek Manners wrote: > > It's sort of accessible but it's definitely got major issues with VoiceOver. Jaws works a lot better. > > Best regard > Derek Manners > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kendra Schafer via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> I'm going to take at least one class at Chemeketa in the fall. One of them is online. Does anyone know if an online program called Black Board accessible to students that use Voice Over? I need to know ahead of time because it will help me. That will be great!!! Thank you!!! >> Kendra >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr.edu From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 06:13:48 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 02:13:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Perceptual Mobility camp for Blind Youth Message-ID: Hi all, There are still spots open in The Road Lies Ahead, a perceptual mobility camp which will be held later this summer at Camp Tuhsmeheta in Lowell Michigan. The program is headed by Daniel Kish, a totally blind orientation and mobility specialist who also teaches perceptual navigation using flash sonar. Activities in the program will challenge students to expand and improve their skills while having fun. Games and activities from last year included hiking, rock climbing, target practice using water guns and "swashbuckling" (fighting with audible swords), various ball games including an audible version of Quidditch from the Harry Potter series, practice reading tactile maps and using a compass, an introduction to GPS technology, hide and seek and "Black Ops" (hide and seek combined with target practice to resemble capture the flag), and more. Plenty of time is left for socializing between staff/mentors and students after the dinner hour. The camp also boasts a regulation Showdown table, which was quite popular among staff and students alike in free time last year. Lessons in independence are embedded throughout the program in the dining hall, on the trails, and in cabin life. Please circulate the attached flyers to students who could benefit. If you have questions please email or call using the information near the bottom of the flyer. Thanks, and I can't wait to travel the road ahead with some eager students, -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: RLA_Flyer_Text.rtf Type: application/rtf Size: 47373 bytes Desc: not available URL: From valandkayla at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 06:25:55 2015 From: valandkayla at gmail.com (Valerie Gibson) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:25:55 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: In-Reply-To: <79E0714D132BCB43A4B18D328D9A445B01231C0B@UBOX3.unr.edu> References: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> <7264C302-281A-439F-9511-DF6C37D5ABAF@jd16.law.harvard.edu> <2D72FDEF-8236-439D-8D65-12EA7B440653@gmail.com> <79E0714D132BCB43A4B18D328D9A445B01231C0B@UBOX3.unr.edu> Message-ID: <4071A2D4-31E4-49E8-BCAD-BA6467900A38@gmail.com> I use safari on my mac with blackboard site, and it works great. > On Jul 14, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Michael D Ausbun via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello there, > My university utilizes blackboard extensively. The phone-based application is accessible, but the web-based application needs a lot of work. For example, the discussion board—used in most online courses—is sometimes accessible with JAWS, but sometimes not. Plus, it crashes almost every day. > The website is about 85%accessible with JAWS 11 and up; however, since I have not used JAWS in several years, I cannot speak to it. I would highly recommend NVDA, fore it works great, and last I heard, it is still free. > I hope this helps! > Respectfully, > Michael Ausbun > > > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Kendra Schafer via nabs-l [nabs-l at nfbnet.org] > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:51 PM > To: Derek Manners > Cc: Kendra Schafer; National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessability question: > > Hi all! > What vertion of JAWS is required? I still have JAWS 9.0 which is a dinesore in the technology world. > Kendra > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 14, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Derek Manners wrote: >> >> It's sort of accessible but it's definitely got major issues with VoiceOver. Jaws works a lot better. >> >> Best regard >> Derek Manners >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kendra Schafer via nabs-l wrote: >>> >>> Hi all! >>> I'm going to take at least one class at Chemeketa in the fall. One of them is online. Does anyone know if an online program called Black Board accessible to students that use Voice Over? I need to know ahead of time because it will help me. That will be great!!! Thank you!!! >>> Kendra >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/valandkayla%40gmail.com From redwing731 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 07:50:07 2015 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schafer) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:50:07 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: In-Reply-To: <79E0714D132BCB43A4B18D328D9A445B01231C0B@UBOX3.unr.edu> References: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> <7264C302-281A-439F-9511-DF6C37D5ABAF@jd16.law.harvard.edu> <2D72FDEF-8236-439D-8D65-12EA7B440653@gmail.com> <79E0714D132BCB43A4B18D328D9A445B01231C0B@UBOX3.unr.edu> Message-ID: Hi all! I just downloaded the app. I'm going to give it a try. Thank you!!! Kendra Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Michael D Ausbun wrote: > > Hello there, > My university utilizes blackboard extensively. The phone-based application is accessible, but the web-based application needs a lot of work. For example, the discussion board—used in most online courses—is sometimes accessible with JAWS, but sometimes not. Plus, it crashes almost every day. > The website is about 85%accessible with JAWS 11 and up; however, since I have not used JAWS in several years, I cannot speak to it. I would highly recommend NVDA, fore it works great, and last I heard, it is still free. > I hope this helps! > Respectfully, > Michael Ausbun > > > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Kendra Schafer via nabs-l [nabs-l at nfbnet.org] > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:51 PM > To: Derek Manners > Cc: Kendra Schafer; National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessability question: > > Hi all! > What vertion of JAWS is required? I still have JAWS 9.0 which is a dinesore in the technology world. > Kendra > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 14, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Derek Manners wrote: >> >> It's sort of accessible but it's definitely got major issues with VoiceOver. Jaws works a lot better. >> >> Best regard >> Derek Manners >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kendra Schafer via nabs-l wrote: >>> >>> Hi all! >>> I'm going to take at least one class at Chemeketa in the fall. One of them is online. Does anyone know if an online program called Black Board accessible to students that use Voice Over? I need to know ahead of time because it will help me. That will be great!!! Thank you!!! >>> Kendra >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr.edu From brinikki3 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 12:35:55 2015 From: brinikki3 at gmail.com (Brianna's Email) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:35:55 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Training centers Message-ID: <4F94E450-2960-4E1B-B681-BEE2597894BC@gmail.com> Hello, my name is Brianna McDowell, and I am from Albany Georgia. I am currently researching training centers to attend after I graduate from community college. People have recommended the Louisiana center for the and my state rehab facility, can anyone tell what I can expect from Lcb? I also welcome any tips or advice about this difficult decision. It will be my first time living out of state, and I'm a bit nervous. Thank you Brianna Sent from my iPhone From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 13:21:29 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 09:21:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: Message-ID: <55a65e80.c4f60d0a.b3bfd.15de@mx.google.com> Hi Kendra I think that Blackboard is accessible for Voice over users but I'm not sure. My university uses Canvas and that is accessible with voiceover. From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 13:21:32 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 09:21:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Training centers Message-ID: <55a65e83.c4f60d0a.b3bfd.15e0@mx.google.com> Hi Briana thanks for your message. I would do some research on all three of the Nfb training centers and your local training center. From ropermeaghan at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 17:30:17 2015 From: ropermeaghan at gmail.com (Meaghan Roper) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:30:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] HP Pavillion 13x360 Accessibility Message-ID: Hey There! Does anyone use one of Microsoft's 2 in 1 PCs? I am thinking of getting one, the HP Pavillion 13x360 Signature Edition. It comes with 4GB RAM. I had a few questions about it. Does it function with NVDA? Has anyone tried running additional softwares like other screen readers or screen enlarging softwares on it? Can I still back up my other mobile devices (iPad, iPhone) to the PC even though it functions as a tablet too? No one in the Microsoft store was able to answer these questions. My main concern is accessibility. Any opinions? Thanks! -Meaghan Roper From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 17:56:14 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:56:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] HP Pavillion 13x360 Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301d0bf27$8b3524d0$a19f6e70$@gmail.com> Meaghan: What software is this PC running? If it runs Windows, it should work just as well as any other computer running the same software. JAWS, NVDA and other screen access programs for Windows are only effected by the OS which runs on the computer. Hope this helps, Chris Nusbaum -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Meaghan Roper via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:30 PM To: NABS Cc: Meaghan Roper Subject: [nabs-l] HP Pavillion 13x360 Accessibility Hey There! Does anyone use one of Microsoft's 2 in 1 PCs? I am thinking of getting one, the HP Pavillion 13x360 Signature Edition. It comes with 4GB RAM. I had a few questions about it. Does it function with NVDA? Has anyone tried running additional softwares like other screen readers or screen enlarging softwares on it? Can I still back up my other mobile devices (iPad, iPhone) to the PC even though it functions as a tablet too? No one in the Microsoft store was able to answer these questions. My main concern is accessibility. Any opinions? Thanks! -Meaghan Roper _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 19:36:25 2015 From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:36:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The NFB's 15th Annual Showcase Of Talent Rebroadcast Goes Down Tomorrow Night Message-ID: Hi All! Since this not only involves the NFB and convention, but some students performed in this event too, I thought it would be appropriate to post the following announcement. Please share with any friends, associates, etc, that you think would want to know about this: I hope all of you had as much fun at this year's convention as I did. I didn't enjoy being thrown out of the room I was staying in originally by hotel security, but that's a story for another night/time. All got worked out, and I had a fun time for the most part! Anyway, I'm inviting each and every one of you to check out the rebroadcast that I do each year of The Performing Arts Division Of The NFB's 15th Annual Showcase Of Talent. It was aired live during the event, but if you missed it, here's one more chance to relive convention memories. It all goes down tomorrow, Thursday, July 16, 2015, at 7 PM eastern sharp. To check out the replay of the showcase, from 6:45PM eastern to the start time til the show's completion, you can go to http://www.mytvland.net/nfb15 This page will be up 15 minutes before the event to give people a chance to tune in. On this page, there will be links to listen with Winamp, Windows Media Player, your favorite Mobile Device, etc, plus two web player options. There will be a way to contact me on that page too, should you run into any struggles listening. All you have to do is select the link on the page that works best for you, and since there will be several options available, if one link gives you trouble, you can try one of the others. If you have any questions prior to tomorrow's stream, you can email me privately at captainriker2015 at gmail.com Or, since I have my weekly a cappella show tonight at http://acaville.com you can contact me on Skype at aaonacaville or by phone at 516 665 1852 between 7 and 10PM eastern tonight. So feel free to reconnect, introduce yourself, or what ever tonight, and/or tune in for a replay of what was in my mind one of the better talent shows that has taken place in quite some time. The show will start at 7 PM eastern tomorrow night, but the listen page at http://www.mytvland.net/nfb15 will be up 15 minutes prior to the event to give people a chance to get their players tuned in. I hope you all enjoy the show tomorrow night, and my personal a cappella one tonight if you decide you'd like to say hi prior to tomorrow's event. >From David Dunphy From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 16 00:38:38 2015 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:38:38 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessability question: In-Reply-To: <2D72FDEF-8236-439D-8D65-12EA7B440653@gmail.com> References: <1454BE5F-DE4D-4385-B0BF-57B3FED7A110@gmail.com> <7264C302-281A-439F-9511-DF6C37D5ABAF@jd16.law.harvard.edu> <2D72FDEF-8236-439D-8D65-12EA7B440653@gmail.com> Message-ID: The later the better, I would think you would want at least 13 or 14 to start to be able to use some of the more modern web technologies. Dave At 09:51 PM 7/14/2015, you wrote: >Hi all! >What vertion of JAWS is required? I still have JAWS 9.0 which is a >dinesore in the technology world. >Kendra > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 14, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Derek Manners > wrote: > > > > It's sort of accessible but it's definitely got major issues with > VoiceOver. Jaws works a lot better. > > > > Best regard > > Derek Manners > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kendra Schafer via nabs-l > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all! > >> I'm going to take at least one class at Chemeketa in the fall. > One of them is online. Does anyone know if an online program called > Black Board accessible to students that use Voice Over? I need to > know ahead of time because it will help me. That will be great!!! Thank you!!! > >> Kendra David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org From spnfb14 at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 02:10:41 2015 From: spnfb14 at gmail.com (Sherry Pablo) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:10:41 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Anatomy and Physiology Questions In-Reply-To: References: <559689b6.871f370a.d3c30.ffffca2aSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Melissa and all, I took Anatomy a couple of years ago. Many of the accommodations I used were already mentioned such as utilizing models to learn various structures of the body, extended time for exams and lab practicals, and attending open lab hours with my professor. If your professor creates handouts detailing what specific structures or parts of the body or model are fair game for testing during the practical, it is helpful to get these handouts a couple of days prior to lab. I found it easier to follow the descriptions my professor and other students explained while orientating my fingers since I had already familiarized myself with the terminology. Lab is hands on and it was useful to wear my Victor Stream around my neck to record descriptions as you do not want to get formaldehyde on your equipment. In my lab we worked on cadavers, a cat, a cow and sheep heart to name a few, and other models of the skeleton and organ systems. When it came to histology, tissue slides, I worked with my professor to understand how each slide looked under the microscope. When it came to the lab practical, my professor was my scribe. Parts of my exams that were based on diagrams or pictures were completed at a later time with my professor. Its important to communicate with your teacher to work out ways to learn the material. My professor set out time every week to work with me and he became descriptive enough in lectures that was beneficial to the rest of the class. I hope you enjoy the class as much as I did. If you have any questions you can reach me off list Sherry On 7/4/15, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, > > I too am taking human anatomy with the lab this coming semester. Here > are the accommodations my prof and I brainstormed in April that we > plan to use. > > * Make use of 3d models as much as possible. My prof has an entire > skeleton model she'll let me borrow for the semester, as well as some > models of individual organs. Some of the models, such as the one she > has for the brain, also split apart into different sections so you can > see lobes or parts of the organ at a time and how they connect to > others, as well as interior structures of that section. > * Come to open labs and have a TA prepared to work with me there if > needed on an individual basis. If your prof offers open labs (time > like office hours in the lab), take advantage of it. If not then ask > for some office hours with either her or one of the TAs. > 3. Extended time on tests, test proctoring, etc. I've never been one > to use a scribe before, but it might be helpful in the practical exams > while you're feeling the cadavers (assuming you're also using cadavers > in the labs). > 4. Make sure tactile drawings are available whenever a structure > doesn't have a model to feel. If possible get some time in open labs > or after class for a TA or the prof to show you the structure in the > cadavers as well. > > My lab does practical exams, so a lot of it will be identifying > structures spatially in reference to each other. In theory this > should also make the material for the lecture easier to learn. I'd > highly recommend looking into using models or getting some if your > prof doesn't own them already. Models won't just be useful for > you-they can be used again and again for other students. > > I hope this helps. > > On 7/4/15, Liliya Asadullina via nabs-l wrote: >> Hello Melissa, >> My name is Liliya and I am going to be taking AMP1 with lab this >> coming semester. >> I have gotten some accommodations already set up for my class. >> Please contact me directly at Lily1127 at me.com to talk about it if >> you'd like some advice. It's the quickest way to reach me by email or >> feel free to call me as well. >> Phone number: 267-644-6530. >> The quickest way to reach me is by texting or calling me because I >> might not have access to the internet these next few weeks. >> Thanks and hope to be able to help! >> Lily >> >> On 7/3/15, mnflammia86 at aol.com wrote: >>> Hi there. I have been a lurker on this mailing list, and so far all that >>> I >>> have read has been a great help. I hope that I have done this email >>> correctly, and it gets sent! I am curious if anyone has taken Anatomy >>> and >>> physiology with the lab? If so, what kind of accommodations helped the >>> best? >>> My college isn't one that suggests accommodations, so I am in the dark. >>> Greetings, >>> Melissa >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lily2011a%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spnfb14%40gmail.com > From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 10:23:29 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 06:23:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks to the nabs leadership team. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03ab01d0bfb1$762de420$6289ac60$@gmail.com> Jordy, You are awesome! What a kind message! It's true...relationships among national divisions is key! This Convention proves that it is well worth it! NABS looks forward to working with the Performing Arts division in the future. Best, Kathryn Webster -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordy Stringer via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:16 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Jordy Stringer Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks to the nabs leadership team. Greetings to all of my Federation family. I want to take a moment to thank the national Association of blind students leadership team for inviting the performing arts division to participate in helping to raise funds for the students this year. We were so happy, and proud to be a part of helping blind students live the lives they want. A special shout out from me, Jordy, goes to Sean, Catherine, and candace. There are so many more people who are an intricate part of making the student division run I couldn't possibly name the mall. And to all of you I say thank you 100 times! I believe this year was the beginning of a beautiful relationship between national divisions. I want to take one more moment to congratulate all of the scholarship recently and's. Your dedication and passion for this organization has been recognized, and we look forward to what the future holds. It is with gratitude and love I send this message! Sincerely, Jordy D. Stringer Sent from the iPhone of Jordy D Stringer President, performing arts division, national Federation of the blind _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma il.com From david.b.andrews at state.mn.us Thu Jul 16 14:16:34 2015 From: david.b.andrews at state.mn.us (Andrews, David B (DEED)) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 09:16:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] AT Scholarship Available Message-ID: National Industries for the Blind still seeks a qualified applicant for the Joseph Roeder Assistive Technology Scholarship, which provides a one-time award of $2,500 for an individual who is blind to pursue education in computer science, information systems or a related field leading to a career in access technology: http://www.nib.org/content/roeder-scholarship-application David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer State Services for the Blind/Department of Employment and Economic Development 2200 University Ave. W., #240, St. Paul, MN 55114-1840 Direct:651-539-2294 http://mn.gov/deed Follow DEED on Description: Title: Twitter icon - Description: Twitter icon Description: Title: Facebook icon - Description: Facebook icon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Sent from my iPhone From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 23:09:32 2015 From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:09:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The NFB Showcase Of Talent Rebroadcast Is About To Start Message-ID: Come One Come All, The Broadcast Of The NFB's 15th Annual Showcase Of Talent from this convention is about to start, gtune in here http://www.mytvland.net/nfb15 for listening options and to tune in! From kmaent1 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 01:18:25 2015 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:18:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Facebook Message-ID: <55a857f6.c792340a.54586.ffffc6f6@mx.google.com> When you look at your friends list, there should be a thing at the top that says who can see it with a link on "public." Click on that, and it takes you to where you can change it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l References: <4F94E450-2960-4E1B-B681-BEE2597894BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008901d0c035$9e281110$da783330$@gmail.com> Brianna: I'm glad to hear that you are planning to obtain training in the skills of blindness and that you are keeping our NFB training centers in mind as you consider which center you will attend. So you are aware, we have three NFB-sponsored training centers in Minnesota, Colorado and Louisiana. Though style and content may slightly differ from center to center, by and large these three centers teach the same curriculum, based on a "structured discovery" method of teaching and nFB's philosophy about blindness. Since you specifically asked about LCB, and since this is the center with which I have the most experience (I graduated from both of their summer programs,) I'll give you some background here about what you can expect when attending the center. LCB's adult program lasts from six to nine months, depending on when one completes the graduation requirements. There are five classes which students take each day from 8:00-5:00 PM: Braille, technology, travel, home management, and shop. Braille, as you might imagine, covers all aspects of Braille learning: familiarization with the code (if you don't know it already,) reading, writing with both a Brailler and a slate and stylus, improving reading speed, etc. In technology you will learn how to use various access technologies, such as screen readers for Windows, VoiceOver for iOS, Braille displays, etc. Home management--often called "home ec"--involves cooking, cleaning, laundry and other household chores. Travel, as the name suggests, includes techniques for traveling with a white cane in all types of situations. Finally, shop teaches you how to use power tools and build various products from wood. Apart from the daily classes, students participate in many activities which build confidence and encourage the application of the skills learned in their classes, e.g. outings to various nearby attractions, a whitewater rafting trip, a trip to New Orleans to participate in the Mardi Gras celebration, and much more. Students also gain practical experience by living in apartments which are owned by the center, in which they must cook, clean, shop for groceries and do all the usual household chores. The final--and arguably most important--aspect of training is "Seminar," in which students and staff discuss together various issues surrounding blindness. This time was, in my experience, the most significant factor in my developing a positive attitude about my own blindness during my training. This is merely an overview of what to expect during training at LCB. As I have not yet experienced the adult program, I can't speak to any differences between that program and the summer training programs from which I have graduated. I know many people who have graduated from the center as adults, however, and they have all expressed to me the dramatic impact their training has had on their lives. I look forward to experiencing this for myself when I am able to attend the center after my graduation from high school. Given the secondhand accounts I have heard from adult graduates as well as the experiences I have had at LCB's Buddy and STEP Programs, I would strongly encourage you to look into LCB as you investigate your training options. A good place to start would be their Web site: http://www.louisianacenter.org. On this site you can find more detailed descriptions of the training programs offered by LCB, and some interesting videos which feature student testimonials. I would also encourage you to talk with LCB alumni about their training experiences. Many graduates are on this list, and I hope you can connect with them. The staff of the center are also a good resource, as many of them were once students themselves. I hope this information helps you in your research. Good luck in finding the training program which suits you best. Chris Nusbaum -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna's Email via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:36 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Brianna's Email Subject: [nabs-l] Training centers Hello, my name is Brianna McDowell, and I am from Albany Georgia. I am currently researching training centers to attend after I graduate from community college. People have recommended the Louisiana center for the and my state rehab facility, can anyone tell what I can expect from Lcb? I also welcome any tips or advice about this difficult decision. It will be my first time living out of state, and I'm a bit nervous. Thank you Brianna Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 02:37:19 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:37:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Opportunity for Those Interested in Computer Science Message-ID: <009301d0c039$82a0f5c0$87e2e140$@gmail.com> Fellow Students: Please see below for an interesting scholarship opportunity for those who are interested in computer science or other technology-related fields. I hope some can take advantage of this information. National Industries for the Blind still seeks a qualified applicant for the Joseph Roeder Assistive Technology Scholarship, which provides a one-time award of $2,500 for an individual who is blind to pursue education in computer science, information systems or a related field leading to a career in access technology: http://www.nib.org/content/roeder-scholarship-application Chris Nusbaum, Vice President Greater Carroll County Chapter, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Fri Jul 17 11:52:21 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:52:21 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please do me a favor NABS Message-ID: <50E08E69-2E9D-4A08-8D26-DAAF1CF39130@jd16.law.harvard.edu> Hello NABS. Recently the national office sent out a request that folks fill out a form on https://nfb.org/ice letting the federal government know that sub minimum wages for disabled workers are injustice. Please go to the above link and fill out the short form. All you have to say is that you are a disabled American and you deserve to be paid the same wage for the same job as your sighted peers. Here's my story: When I was in high school, I got a job at my local college textbook store. I was paid $3.00 an hour despite the fact that my less capable and less ambitious peers were making $8.00. Even more unjustly, the minimum wage was over $5.00 at the time. After 3 months, I was promoted to assistant manager which should have increased my pay to $12 an hour. However, because I was blind, I was kept at my sub minimum wage of $3.00 an hour. I had the responsibility of hiring, firing, and training non-disabled workers who were making more money than me. At the time, I did not realize what an injustice this was. I was so accepting of the notion that I was blind and therefore deserved to be paid less, I didn't fight it. Now that I attend Harvard Law School and have a better understanding of blindness and my own capabilities, I realize the injustice that was done to me. Please help me end this evil program so no other blind person in America gets mistreated the way I was. Go to https://nfb.org/ice and fill out the form. It'll literally take you less time than it took to read this email. Thank you Derek Manners Sent from my iPhone From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 12:50:41 2015 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:20:41 +0530 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading Large Numbers with Jaws Message-ID: Hi All, Is there any way to make JAWS read large numbers in a way that makes sense? More specifically, say, for instance, if it is reading an 8/9-digit number, how can I make it read that number in small chunks so as to understand what the precise figure is? If it cannot do so, what other strategies do you employ when confronted with such large numbers? Best, Rahul From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 13:10:59 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:10:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading Large Numbers with Jaws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01a401d0c092$0722e530$1568af90$@gmail.com> Rahul, It may be helpful if you use Jaws key (whether it be caps or insert) and the letter k twice fast. In other words, hold down the Jaws key and ress k twice quickly. This allows the screen reader to read the current word character by character. Hope this answers at least part of your question. Thanks, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:51 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: [nabs-l] Reading Large Numbers with Jaws Hi All, Is there any way to make JAWS read large numbers in a way that makes sense? More specifically, say, for instance, if it is reading an 8/9-digit number, how can I make it read that number in small chunks so as to understand what the precise figure is? If it cannot do so, what other strategies do you employ when confronted with such large numbers? Best, Rahul _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma il.com From gloria.graves at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 13:50:41 2015 From: gloria.graves at gmail.com (Gloria Graves) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 08:50:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Facebook In-Reply-To: <55a857f6.c792340a.54586.ffffc6f6@mx.google.com> References: <55a857f6.c792340a.54586.ffffc6f6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l wrote: > > When you look at your friends list, there should be a thing at the top that says who can see it with a link on "public." Click on that, and it takes you to where you can change it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:24:59 -0500 > Subject: [nabs-l] Facebook > > Hi, > Can anyone give me instructions on how to hide my friend list so that when people look me up I can't see who I'm friends with? > Thanks > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gloria.graves%40gmail.com From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 14:15:40 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 10:15:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update Message-ID: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> Good morning NABS! Since the TEACH Act is no longer a bill we are fighting for, the personal testimonies that were sent in last January are in need of some alteration. Though content will not be changed, I want everyone to be aware that if you sent in a TEACH Act testimony, the verbiage of TEACH Act will be changed to say equal access to education or voluntary guidelines. Please, if this change bothers you in the slightest, feel free to send me an email at kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com I am so glad that we have received some so far, but we need more! Please take ten minutes this weekend to tell your story. This personal testminoy mustn't be long. We just need at least a paragraph of you expressing support and need for equal access to education. Anecdotes are helpful! Email me off-list if you would like a sample letter and I will happily send you one. It is up to us as print-disabled students to make a difference in the lives of all blind students now and in the future. Thank you so much in advance for stepping up to the plate for all of us because equal access to education is not a privilege, it is an expectation! Best, Kathryn Webster Secretary | National Association of Blind Students President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut (203) 273-8463 Kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com From dragoshi11 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 17 15:49:11 2015 From: dragoshi11 at hotmail.com (Rilind Dragoshi) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 12:49:11 -0300 Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Participants for Survey Research for My undergraduate Thesis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Hello everyone. My name is Rilind Dragoshi, and I am a fourth year Psychology Major at Crandall University in Canada. As part of research for my undergraduate thesis in my Psychology degree, I am completing some research related to academic performance and self efficacy. The particular area of focus in this study are students who are blind or who have any kind of visual impairment, and you can participate if you are currently in post secondary, or even also participate even if you have already graduated post Secondary. I would greatly appreciate it if you could participate in this study. It would be questions relating to your academic performance and how your aptitudes and resources assist you in your academics. The interview wouldn't take longer than 30 minutes: if you email me the informed consent form and your answers by the next couple of weeks or the end of the month but sometime by the end of July that would be great:. I have attached the file with this information, but have also pasted it below. Do you feel you can participate? Please let me know if you are able to participate, when you recieve this, and also if you have any questions. I need many participants 220 minimum so if you wish to participate or even to forward to others you know that is very much appreciated. In order to send your results, or to ask me questions feel free to message me at my email address dragoshi11 at hotmail.com or at my University email address Rdra911 at CrandallUniversity.ca Thanks. Rilind. P.S. Even if you include just one line answers that is okay as well. Dragoshi11 at hotmail.com The questionnaire is attached but also pasted below. Informed Consent Form for Participants (Sample) Dear (Name of Participant). My name is Rilind Dragoshi. I am a fourth year Psychology major student at Crandall University and I am currently conducting research as part of my Honour’s Thesis. The purpose of my research is to analyze the relationship between academic self-efficacy and GPA (Grade Point Average) levels of post-secondary students. I am interested to see if a high level of academic self-efficacy will contribute to high levels of GPA. If you choose to participate in this research study, you will be asked a series of basic demographic questions such as your age, gender, and year of study followed by specific questions about your academic studies in the post-secondary institution, as well as questions on how various resources and aptitudes in life assist you in your academic performance. The interview will take about 30 minutes and will be recorded for transcription purposes. There are no risks associated with participating in this research and contributing to this study is completely voluntary. Please note that you are free to withdraw from this study at any point without providing any explanation. In addition, all the information you provide is completely confidential and the anonymity of all participants is ensured at all times. The data will be kept under lock and key in a safe place for 5 years and then deleted/shredded. The results of this study may be presented at conferences and/or submitted for journal publications. By signing below, you are agreeing that: 1) You are not a Crandall University student 2) You must be over 18 years of age 2) you have read and understood the Informed Consent Form, 3) you have been fully advised of the procedures to be used in this research study, 4) you have had sufficient opportunity to ask questions, and 4) you are taking part in this research study voluntarily and can withdraw at any point. Name of Participant (Typed/): ______________________________________________ Signature of Participant (typed): ____________________________________________________ Date: __________________________________________________________________ Day/ Month/Year Questionnaire Below is the sample questionnaire for the interview. Please give as much information as possible. Questionnaire for Interview Section A Demographic questions: 1. gender? 2. Age? 3. ethnic background? 4. marital status? 5. place of residence? 6. Are you currently employed? 7. year of study ? 8. academic major? Section B Academic work 9. Do you find studying easy or stressful? 10. Are you able to keep up with the required readings? 11. Are you able to take good class notes? 12. Do you understand your textbooks? 13. Do you participate well in class discussions? 14. Do you find writing term papers easy or stressful? 15. How well do you do in exams? 16. What scores do you get in exams? 17. How do you do with editing work or correcting mistakes? 18. What is your GPA level: Sessional and cumulative? 19. Are you in the A, B, C, or D range in your academic standing? Understanding and Applying Content 20. Are you able to apply what you learn in daily life? 21. How well are you able to understand the vocabulary in your major or discipline? 22. Are you able to use technology effectively in order to assist you in studying? Managing Time 23. Do you manage time efficiently? 24. Do you find the time to study? 25. Are you able to research term papers within the appropriate time? 26. Do you hand in your term papers on time? Relationship with Professors 27. Are you able to understand the lectures in class? 28. Are you able to talk with your professors? 29. Do you get enough feedback from your professors about your work? 30. Are you able to get assistance from professors? Relationship with peers 31. Do you have peers you can discuss your academic work with? Are they helpful? 32. If necessary, do your peers help you understand the material taught? 33. Does discussion with your peers enable you to score higher marks? 34. Are you able to work effectively in groups with your peers? 35. Describe how you are at establishing friendships and maintaining connections with your peers? 36. How are you at understanding social cues from your peers when they need assistance? 37. In what ways does interaction with others contribute to your academic performance? Multiple Intelligences 38. How do your language skills assist your performance? 39. Does the physical exercise you do assist you in studying, completing work, or thinking? 40. How do thoughts of nature, such as snow, birds flying, and other scenes of nature help you in focussing on your studies and doing better? 41. Does either listening to or playing music assist you in your academic performance? 42. Does evaluating your own self, personality, character, and other traits about yourself assist you in your academic performance? 43. Would you consider yourself to be in the above average, average, or below average range in terms of your academic ability? Do math and logic assist you in your academic performance in any way? 44. Are you good at mathematics and statistics? 45. How is your success linked to the understanding of the meaning of your education? Work (volunteer and paid) 46. Are you involved with volunteer work? How many hours? 47. Are you involved in paid work? Part time/full time? How many hours? 48. Does paid/volunteer work hinder your academic performance? In what way? 49. Does paid/volunteer work benefit your academic performance? In what way? -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:00 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: nabs-l Digest, Vol 105, Issue 17 Send nabs-l mailing list submissions to nabs-l at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of nabs-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. AT Scholarship Available (Andrews, David B (DEED)) 2. Facebook (Gloria Graves) 3. The NFB Showcase Of Talent Rebroadcast Is About To Start (David Dunphy) 4. Re: Facebook (Karl Martin Adam) 5. Re: Training centers (Chris Nusbaum) 6. Scholarship Opportunity for Those Interested in Computer Science (Chris Nusbaum) 7. Please do me a favor NABS (Derek Manners) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 09:16:34 -0500 From: "Andrews, David B (DEED)" (by way of David Andrews ) To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] AT Scholarship Available Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" National Industries for the Blind still seeks a qualified applicant for the Joseph Roeder Assistive Technology Scholarship, which provides a one-time award of $2,500 for an individual who is blind to pursue education in computer science, information systems or a related field leading to a career in access technology: http://www.nib.org/content/roeder-scholarship-application David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer State Services for the Blind/Department of Employment and Economic Development 2200 University Ave. W., #240, St. Paul, MN 55114-1840 Direct:651-539-2294 http://mn.gov/deed Follow DEED on Description: Title: Twitter icon - Description: Twitter icon Description: Title: Facebook icon - Description: Facebook icon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:09:32 -0400 From: David Dunphy To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: [nabs-l] The NFB Showcase Of Talent Rebroadcast Is About To Start Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Come One Come All, The Broadcast Of The NFB's 15th Annual Showcase Of Talent from this convention is about to start, gtune in here http://www.mytvland.net/nfb15 for listening options and to tune in! ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:18:25 -0400 From: Karl Martin Adam To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Facebook Message-ID: <55a857f6.c792340a.54586.ffffc6f6 at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed When you look at your friends list, there should be a thing at the top that says who can see it with a link on "public." Click on that, and it takes you to where you can change it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers Message-ID: <008901d0c035$9e281110$da783330$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brianna: I'm glad to hear that you are planning to obtain training in the skills of blindness and that you are keeping our NFB training centers in mind as you consider which center you will attend. So you are aware, we have three NFB-sponsored training centers in Minnesota, Colorado and Louisiana. Though style and content may slightly differ from center to center, by and large these three centers teach the same curriculum, based on a "structured discovery" method of teaching and nFB's philosophy about blindness. Since you specifically asked about LCB, and since this is the center with which I have the most experience (I graduated from both of their summer programs,) I'll give you some background here about what you can expect when attending the center. LCB's adult program lasts from six to nine months, depending on when one completes the graduation requirements. There are five classes which students take each day from 8:00-5:00 PM: Braille, technology, travel, home management, and shop. Braille, as you might imagine, covers all aspects of Braille learning: familiarization with the code (if you don't know it already,) reading, writing with both a Brailler and a slate and stylus, improving reading speed, etc. In technology you will learn how to use various access technologies, such as screen readers for Windows, VoiceOver for iOS, Braille displays, etc. Home management--often called "home ec"--involves cooking, cleaning, laundry and other household chores. Travel, as the name suggests, includes techniques for traveling with a white cane in all types of situations. Finally, shop teaches you how to use power tools and build various products from wood. Apart from the daily classes, students participate in many activities which build confidence and encourage the application of the skills learned in their classes, e.g. outings to various nearby attractions, a whitewater rafting trip, a trip to New Orleans to participate in the Mardi Gras celebration, and much more. Students also gain practical experience by living in apartments which are owned by the center, in which they must cook, clean, shop for groceries and do all the usual household chores. The final--and arguably most important--aspect of training is "Seminar," in which students and staff discuss together various issues surrounding blindness. This time was, in my experience, the most significant factor in my developing a positive attitude about my own blindness during my training. This is merely an overview of what to expect during training at LCB. As I have not yet experienced the adult program, I can't speak to any differences between that program and the summer training programs from which I have graduated. I know many people who have graduated from the center as adults, however, and they have all expressed to me the dramatic impact their training has had on their lives. I look forward to experiencing this for myself when I am able to attend the center after my graduation from high school. Given the secondhand accounts I have heard from adult graduates as well as the experiences I have had at LCB's Buddy and STEP Programs, I would strongly encourage you to look into LCB as you investigate your training options. A good place to start would be their Web site: http://www.louisianacenter.org. On this site you can find more detailed descriptions of the training programs offered by LCB, and some interesting videos which feature student testimonials. I would also encourage you to talk with LCB alumni about their training experiences. Many graduates are on this list, and I hope you can connect with them. The staff of the center are also a good resource, as many of them were once students themselves. I hope this information helps you in your research. Good luck in finding the training program which suits you best. Chris Nusbaum -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna's Email via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:36 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Brianna's Email Subject: [nabs-l] Training centers Hello, my name is Brianna McDowell, and I am from Albany Georgia. I am currently researching training centers to attend after I graduate from community college. People have recommended the Louisiana center for the and my state rehab facility, can anyone tell what I can expect from Lcb? I also welcome any tips or advice about this difficult decision. It will be my first time living out of state, and I'm a bit nervous. Thank you Brianna Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:37:19 -0400 From: "Chris Nusbaum" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" , Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Opportunity for Those Interested in Computer Science Message-ID: <009301d0c039$82a0f5c0$87e2e140$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Fellow Students: Please see below for an interesting scholarship opportunity for those who are interested in computer science or other technology-related fields. I hope some can take advantage of this information. National Industries for the Blind still seeks a qualified applicant for the Joseph Roeder Assistive Technology Scholarship, which provides a one-time award of $2,500 for an individual who is blind to pursue education in computer science, information systems or a related field leading to a career in access technology: http://www.nib.org/content/roeder-scholarship-application Chris Nusbaum, Vice President Greater Carroll County Chapter, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Vice President, Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Coordinator of Social Media, National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @NFBMD The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:52:21 -0400 From: Derek Manners To: NABS mailing list Subject: [nabs-l] Please do me a favor NABS Message-ID: <50E08E69-2E9D-4A08-8D26-DAAF1CF39130 at jd16.law.harvard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello NABS. Recently the national office sent out a request that folks fill out a form on https://nfb.org/ice letting the federal government know that sub minimum wages for disabled workers are injustice. Please go to the above link and fill out the short form. All you have to say is that you are a disabled American and you deserve to be paid the same wage for the same job as your sighted peers. Here's my story: When I was in high school, I got a job at my local college textbook store. I was paid $3.00 an hour despite the fact that my less capable and less ambitious peers were making $8.00. Even more unjustly, the minimum wage was over $5.00 at the time. After 3 months, I was promoted to assistant manager which should have increased my pay to $12 an hour. However, because I was blind, I was kept at my sub minimum wage of $3.00 an hour. I had the responsibility of hiring, firing, and training non-disabled workers who were making more money than me. At the time, I did not realize what an injustice this was. I was so accepting of the notion that I was blind and therefore deserved to be paid less, I didn't fight it. Now that I attend Harvard Law School and have a better understanding of blindness and my own capabilities, I realize the injustice that was done to me. Please help me end this evil program so no other blind person in America gets mistreated the way I was. Go to https://nfb.org/ice and fill out the form. It'll literally take you less time than it took to read this email. Thank you Derek Manners Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org ------------------------------ End of nabs-l Digest, Vol 105, Issue 17 *************************************** -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Miso Kwak From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 15:56:53 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 11:56:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help In-Reply-To: <8D28EBFA56D5AC0-2004-1D4ABA@webmail-va027.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D28EBFA56D5AC0-2004-1D4ABA@webmail-va027.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <011601d0c0a9$3385b0f0$9a9112d0$@gmail.com> I hear that SAS is better; when I used SspSS, Jaws only partially worked. I'm not sure if there was a knowledge and skill issue or not. However, I would suggest using a braille display on the parts where jaws does not work. There are key commands for it. I'll do the best I can to find them and send them to you. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:52 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help Hello, I will be beginning a course on psychology research method in two weeks. I am aware that my class will be utilizing SPSS as a part of our class for statistical analysis. How accessible is SPSS with JAWS? Is there any tutorial I could read or listen to? Or if you have experience using SPSS with JAWS and could help me out, I would appreciate your time. Thank you. Best, Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 19:01:18 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:01:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update In-Reply-To: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> References: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <013401d0c0c2$f71f33b0$e55d9b10$@gmail.com> Fellow NABSters: To add to and perhaps clarify what Kathryn stated below, we are still very much engaged in fighting for the principles which the TEACH Act embodied. However, these guidelines have been transferred to a slightly different piece of legislation. The bill formerly known as the TEACH Act is now called the Stimulating the Market to Make Accessibility a Reality Today (SMART) Act. I would encourage those of you who have not yet written your testimonies, then, to mention the SMART Act so that members of Congress will have a bill to reference. More information on this new bill and our policy on it can be found in Resolution 2015-07, which can be read at: https://nfb.org/2015%20Resolution. I hope this helps to clear up any confusion which may have been caused. Please feel free to reach out to any of us on the NABS Board with any questions or concerns. Chris Nusbaum, NABS Board Member -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Webster via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:16 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Kathryn Webster Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update Good morning NABS! Since the TEACH Act is no longer a bill we are fighting for, the personal testimonies that were sent in last January are in need of some alteration. Though content will not be changed, I want everyone to be aware that if you sent in a TEACH Act testimony, the verbiage of TEACH Act will be changed to say equal access to education or voluntary guidelines. Please, if this change bothers you in the slightest, feel free to send me an email at kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com I am so glad that we have received some so far, but we need more! Please take ten minutes this weekend to tell your story. This personal testminoy mustn't be long. We just need at least a paragraph of you expressing support and need for equal access to education. Anecdotes are helpful! Email me off-list if you would like a sample letter and I will happily send you one. It is up to us as print-disabled students to make a difference in the lives of all blind students now and in the future. Thank you so much in advance for stepping up to the plate for all of us because equal access to education is not a privilege, it is an expectation! Best, Kathryn Webster Secretary | National Association of Blind Students President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut (203) 273-8463 Kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From bridgetawalker13 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 20:28:34 2015 From: bridgetawalker13 at aol.com (Bridget Walker) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 16:28:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update In-Reply-To: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> References: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Kathryn I'de be happy to write one. Can you send me an example of one that has already been sent? Thanks, Bridget Sent from my iPad > On Jul 17, 27 Heisei, at 10:15 AM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: > > Good morning NABS! > > Since the TEACH Act is no longer a bill we are fighting for, > the personal testimonies that were sent in last January are in need of some > alteration. Though content will not be changed, I want everyone to be aware > that if you sent in a TEACH Act testimony, the verbiage of TEACH Act will be > changed to say equal access to education or voluntary guidelines. > > Please, if this change bothers you in the slightest, feel free to send me an > email at kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com > > I am so glad that we have received some so far, but we need more! Please > take ten minutes this weekend to tell your story. This personal testminoy > mustn't be long. We just need at least a paragraph of you expressing support > and need for equal access to education. Anecdotes are helpful! > > Email me off-list if you would like a sample letter and I will happily send > you one. > > It is up to us as print-disabled students to make a difference in the lives > of all blind students now and in the future. Thank you so much in advance > for stepping up to the plate for all of us because equal access to education > is not a privilege, it is an expectation! > > > > Best, > > Kathryn Webster > > > > Secretary | National Association of Blind Students > > President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students > > Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut > > (203) 273-8463 > > Kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 23:21:03 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:21:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update Message-ID: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Dear Students, Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 23:42:24 2015 From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:42:24 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Drinking in the hotel bar, of course… in all seriousness, however, Marc Maurer's speech during the afternoon session on the last day, along with the lady from the X prize foundation resonate most with me… Can't tell you which was more powerful, but they were both highlights. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: > > Dear Students, > > Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kirt.crazydude%40gmail.com From blindstein at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 23:44:53 2015 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 16:44:53 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I enjoyed speaking about my study abroad experience at the students meeting, and also working on the Spanish translation committee during general session. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Kirt via nabs-l wrote: > > Drinking in the hotel bar, of course… in all seriousness, however, Marc Maurer's speech during the afternoon session on the last day, along with the lady from the X prize foundation resonate most with me… Can't tell you which was more powerful, but they were both highlights. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Dear Students, >> >> Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kirt.crazydude%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Sat Jul 18 00:21:43 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:21:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I enjoyed the self advocacy workshop! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: > > I enjoyed speaking about my study abroad experience at the students meeting, and also working on the Spanish translation committee during general session. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Kirt via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Drinking in the hotel bar, of course… in all seriousness, however, Marc Maurer's speech during the afternoon session on the last day, along with the lady from the X prize foundation resonate most with me… Can't tell you which was more powerful, but they were both highlights. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: >>> >>> Dear Students, >>> >>> Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kirt.crazydude%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From arielle71 at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 00:42:47 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:42:47 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help In-Reply-To: <011601d0c0a9$3385b0f0$9a9112d0$@gmail.com> References: <8D28EBFA56D5AC0-2004-1D4ABA@webmail-va027.sysops.aol.com> <011601d0c0a9$3385b0f0$9a9112d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Miso, SPSS does work with JAWS, but it's clunky and inconvenient. A bigger issue is its expense. If you will have access to a university computer with JAWS and SPSS already installed, this won't be a problem, but if you will need to use your personal computer, you would have to buy an SPSS license. If you are just taking this one class, it is probably a better use of your time and money to either use a free statistical program or a human reader, partner, etc. Microsoft Excel will run many of the statistical functions needed for an intro class. Another option is an online calculator at www.graphpad.com/quickcalcs If you are just taking this one class and don't have access to a university computer, I would suggest asking your professor permission to do assignments in Excel or GraphPad. If you are planning to do independent research, or take multiple statistics classes, then it might be worth it to buy SPSS. SAS is a more accessible alternative, but can be harder to learn if you aren't being taught specific commands. If you go the SPSS route, keep in mind that data editing and output reading are not accessible yet, to my knowledge. You can work around this by importing your data from Excel into SPSS and then saving your output as a spreadsheet and opening it up in Excel. This is clunky, but it works. Feel free to email with more specific questions: arielle71 at gmail.com Best, Arielle On 7/17/15, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: > I hear that SAS is better; when I used SspSS, Jaws only partially worked. > I'm not sure if there was a knowledge and skill issue or not. However, I > would suggest using a braille display on the parts where jaws does not > work. > There are key commands for it. I'll do the best I can to find them and > send > them to you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:52 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help > > Hello, > I will be beginning a course on psychology research method in two weeks. I > am aware that my class will be utilizing SPSS as a part of our class for > statistical analysis. > How accessible is SPSS with JAWS? > Is there any tutorial I could read or listen to? > Or if you have experience using SPSS with JAWS and could help me out, I > would appreciate your time. > Thank you. > Best, > Miso Kwak > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From kwakmiso at aol.com Sat Jul 18 00:43:54 2015 From: kwakmiso at aol.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:43:54 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2E94A7A3-D543-4A18-AC1D-F521E55A8914@aol.com> My favorite was Serena Olson's presentation on her experience with the Peace Corps. And of course connecting with new and old friends throughout the convention. -- Miso Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Derek Manners via nabs-l wrote: > > I enjoyed the self advocacy workshop! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: >> >> I enjoyed speaking about my study abroad experience at the students meeting, and also working on the Spanish translation committee during general session. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Kirt via nabs-l wrote: >>> >>> Drinking in the hotel bar, of course… in all seriousness, however, Marc Maurer's speech during the afternoon session on the last day, along with the lady from the X prize foundation resonate most with me… Can't tell you which was more powerful, but they were both highlights. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Students, >>>> >>>> Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kirt.crazydude%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kwakmiso%40aol.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 00:45:11 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:45:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help In-Reply-To: References: <8D28EBFA56D5AC0-2004-1D4ABA@webmail-va027.sysops.aol.com> <011601d0c0a9$3385b0f0$9a9112d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003b01d0c0f3$01212640$036372c0$@gmail.com> I did use excel; it was clunky. I had to have someone put it into excel for me I think. Tha semester is a hayze. She is write about the parts which are inaccessible. Maybe you can find the sass commands. somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:43 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Arielle Silverman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] SPSS Help Hi Miso, SPSS does work with JAWS, but it's clunky and inconvenient. A bigger issue is its expense. If you will have access to a university computer with JAWS and SPSS already installed, this won't be a problem, but if you will need to use your personal computer, you would have to buy an SPSS license. If you are just taking this one class, it is probably a better use of your time and money to either use a free statistical program or a human reader, partner, etc. Microsoft Excel will run many of the statistical functions needed for an intro class. Another option is an online calculator at www.graphpad.com/quickcalcs If you are just taking this one class and don't have access to a university computer, I would suggest asking your professor permission to do assignments in Excel or GraphPad. If you are planning to do independent research, or take multiple statistics classes, then it might be worth it to buy SPSS. SAS is a more accessible alternative, but can be harder to learn if you aren't being taught specific commands. If you go the SPSS route, keep in mind that data editing and output reading are not accessible yet, to my knowledge. You can work around this by importing your data from Excel into SPSS and then saving your output as a spreadsheet and opening it up in Excel. This is clunky, but it works. Feel free to email with more specific questions: arielle71 at gmail.com Best, Arielle On 7/17/15, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: > I hear that SAS is better; when I used SspSS, Jaws only partially worked. > I'm not sure if there was a knowledge and skill issue or not. > However, I would suggest using a braille display on the parts where > jaws does not work. > There are key commands for it. I'll do the best I can to find them > and send them to you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak > via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:52 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help > > Hello, > I will be beginning a course on psychology research method in two > weeks. I am aware that my class will be utilizing SPSS as a part of > our class for statistical analysis. > How accessible is SPSS with JAWS? > Is there any tutorial I could read or listen to? > Or if you have experience using SPSS with JAWS and could help me out, > I would appreciate your time. > Thank you. > Best, > Miso Kwak > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%4 > 0gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail. > com > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From arielle71 at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 00:50:21 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:50:21 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help In-Reply-To: <003b01d0c0f3$01212640$036372c0$@gmail.com> References: <8D28EBFA56D5AC0-2004-1D4ABA@webmail-va027.sysops.aol.com> <011601d0c0a9$3385b0f0$9a9112d0$@gmail.com> <003b01d0c0f3$01212640$036372c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: support.sas.com has commands. Some of it is kind of densely written. If anyone wants to learn basic SAS commands email me privately and I can send you some to get started. Arielle On 7/17/15, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: > I did use excel; it was clunky. I had to have someone put it into excel > for > me I think. Tha semester is a hayze. She is write about the parts which > are > inaccessible. Maybe you can find the sass commands. somewhere. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle > Silverman via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:43 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Arielle Silverman > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] SPSS Help > > Hi Miso, SPSS does work with JAWS, but it's clunky and inconvenient. A > bigger issue is its expense. If you will have access to a university > computer with JAWS and SPSS already installed, this won't be a problem, but > if you will need to use your personal computer, you would have to buy an > SPSS license. If you are just taking this one class, it is probably a > better > use of your time and money to either use a free statistical program or a > human reader, partner, etc. Microsoft Excel will run many of the > statistical > functions needed for an intro class. > Another option is an online calculator at www.graphpad.com/quickcalcs If > you > are just taking this one class and don't have access to a university > computer, I would suggest asking your professor permission to do > assignments > in Excel or GraphPad. > > If you are planning to do independent research, or take multiple statistics > classes, then it might be worth it to buy SPSS. SAS is a more accessible > alternative, but can be harder to learn if you aren't being taught specific > commands. > If you go the SPSS route, keep in mind that data editing and output reading > are not accessible yet, to my knowledge. You can work around this by > importing your data from Excel into SPSS and then saving your output as a > spreadsheet and opening it up in Excel. This is clunky, but it works. > Feel free to email with more specific questions: arielle71 at gmail.com > > Best, Arielle > > On 7/17/15, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: >> I hear that SAS is better; when I used SspSS, Jaws only partially worked. >> I'm not sure if there was a knowledge and skill issue or not. >> However, I would suggest using a braille display on the parts where >> jaws does not work. >> There are key commands for it. I'll do the best I can to find them >> and send them to you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >> via nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:52 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help >> >> Hello, >> I will be beginning a course on psychology research method in two >> weeks. I am aware that my class will be utilizing SPSS as a part of >> our class for statistical analysis. >> How accessible is SPSS with JAWS? >> Is there any tutorial I could read or listen to? >> Or if you have experience using SPSS with JAWS and could help me out, >> I would appreciate your time. >> Thank you. >> Best, >> Miso Kwak >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%4 >> 0gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail. >> com >> > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 02:54:24 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:54:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2BA94D6B-DFA7-47A0-926F-06C75FC2D563@gmail.com> This is always difficult, as there are so many terrific memories which are made during national convention. But I must say my favorite was the performance of the 75th Anniversary Band and Choir during the Friday morning session. I may be a little biased, as I was able to participate in the performance firsthand as a singer in the choir. But I must say that this performance and the rehearsals which led up to it were the highlight of my week. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: > > Dear Students, > > Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From mausbun at unr.edu Sat Jul 18 03:01:34 2015 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 03:01:34 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: <2BA94D6B-DFA7-47A0-926F-06C75FC2D563@gmail.com> References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com>, <2BA94D6B-DFA7-47A0-926F-06C75FC2D563@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1914E493-4524-4CCE-B14D-9F566C34AA11@unr.edu> This is an extremely difficult question for me to answer, because I was able to experience so much. One of my favorite things, however, was having an opportunity to interact with the Federation lists. Really showed me that there exists a family that I didn't know existed before. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > > This is always difficult, as there are so many terrific memories which are made during national convention. But I must say my favorite was the performance of the 75th Anniversary Band and Choir during the Friday morning session. I may be a little biased, as I was able to participate in the performance firsthand as a singer in the choir. But I must say that this performance and the rehearsals which led up to it were the highlight of my week. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Dear Students, >> >> Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr.edu From dsmithnfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 03:13:50 2015 From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:13:50 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Roanna, it is truly unfortunate that you couldn’t have made it this year. One of the things I love about the federation is that membership in it is very much a participatory activity. One can hear about convention, read about it, listen to it, but nothing is like going to a convention and being a part of the activities that go on, surrounded by the positivity, the energy and the hope for the possibilities of our future and knowing that we are the ones that can make it come true. I honestly can’t think of one memory or a group of them, because well, there was a lot. We celebrated our past, looked to our future and broke a world record in the present, and came away with actions we needed to follow through on to keep the work of our movement going. I hope that you will be a part of the action, the work, the excitement today and in the days that follow so that you might find something that inspires you to be with us in Orlando next year. Darian > On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: > > Dear Students, > > Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com From hope.paulos at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 03:28:44 2015 From: hope.paulos at gmail.com (Hope Paulos) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:28:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <58EE29F7-83B7-4D98-BE8B-1DD7B413DD60@gmail.com> I guess my best memory would be meeting all the people. Getting to know people and making friends! I worked the freedom scientific booth, so really didn't have much time for extra activities… But for those people who came and saw all of the new products, I met just about everyone of them. I hope to go back next year, and maybe attend general session. Hope Paulos > On Jul 17, 2015, at 11:13 PM, Darian Smith via nabs-l wrote: > > Roanna, > it is truly unfortunate that you couldn’t have made it this year. > One of the things I love about the federation is that membership in it is very much a participatory activity. One can hear about convention, read about it, listen to it, but nothing is like going to a convention and being a part of the activities that go on, surrounded by the positivity, the energy and the hope for the possibilities of our future and knowing that we are the ones that can make it come true. > I honestly can’t think of one memory or a group of them, because well, there was a lot. > We celebrated our past, looked to our future and broke a world record in the present, and came away with actions we needed to follow through on to keep the work of our movement going. > I hope that you will be a part of the action, the work, the excitement today and in the days that follow so that you might find something that inspires you to be with us in Orlando next year. > Darian >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Dear Students, >> >> Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 03:29:44 2015 From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:29:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A COnvention Memory Brought To Life, This Year's Talent Show Message-ID: Hi All! I'm going to share a memory from this year's convention, this year's showcase of talent. Feel free to grab it if you want, and to share it too. it's at https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/65sq2d Enjoy! From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 03:41:01 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:41:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update In-Reply-To: References: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Question... if I wrote a Teach Act letter back in December and the verbage is being changed would it be helpful for me to write an additional Smart Act letter? I'm willing to do so if it will help the cause, but don't want to cause clutter if it would only basically duplicate letters written by one person. If I'm okay to write another and can just write with different anecdotes or information I'd be happy to sit down and write one this weekend. Thanks, On 7/17/15, Bridget Walker via nabs-l wrote: > Hi Kathryn > I'de be happy to write one. Can you send me an example of one that has > already been sent? > Thanks, > Bridget > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 17, 27 Heisei, at 10:15 AM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Good morning NABS! >> >> Since the TEACH Act is no longer a bill we are fighting >> for, >> the personal testimonies that were sent in last January are in need of >> some >> alteration. Though content will not be changed, I want everyone to be >> aware >> that if you sent in a TEACH Act testimony, the verbiage of TEACH Act will >> be >> changed to say equal access to education or voluntary guidelines. >> >> Please, if this change bothers you in the slightest, feel free to send me >> an >> email at kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >> >> >> I am so glad that we have received some so far, but we need more! Please >> take ten minutes this weekend to tell your story. This personal testminoy >> mustn't be long. We just need at least a paragraph of you expressing >> support >> and need for equal access to education. Anecdotes are helpful! >> >> Email me off-list if you would like a sample letter and I will happily >> send >> you one. >> >> It is up to us as print-disabled students to make a difference in the >> lives >> of all blind students now and in the future. Thank you so much in advance >> for stepping up to the plate for all of us because equal access to >> education >> is not a privilege, it is an expectation! >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Kathryn Webster >> >> >> >> Secretary | National Association of Blind Students >> >> President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students >> >> Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut >> >> (203) 273-8463 >> >> Kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From mausbun at unr.edu Sat Jul 18 04:33:25 2015 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 04:33:25 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Using the iPhone Keypad During a Call In-Reply-To: <79DC1AD4-A242-4D25-99AD-E8321B659A06@gmail.com> References: <00f901d0bd76$bbdf2b60$339d8220$@gmail.com>, <79DC1AD4-A242-4D25-99AD-E8321B659A06@gmail.com> Message-ID: <703FF17F-2E95-4A81-B63B-3AE61FA07735@unr.edu> Hello all, The problem that you guys are facing is and iPhone related issue. In the top right hand corner of your screen, there is a camera lens. When this lens is covered, the iPhone thinks the phone is next to your head. Thus, if the lens gets covered, speaker mode is deactivated. Respectfully Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Kendra Schafer via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi all! > I found that any kind of headphones works for this. Bluetooth headphones might be the best for you. They allow you to talk on the phone hands free and they allow you to use the keypad. > Kendra > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:17 AM, rahul via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Whenever I am in the middle of acall and am required to enter a code, for >> entering a conference call for instance, the phone repeatedly switches from >> the speaker to the earpiece and back even if one is holding the phone in the >> very same position. As a result, while one is entering the code, the speaker >> mode automatically gets deactivated, thereby making it impossible to enter >> the code. What can one do to grapple with this situation? >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Rahul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr.edu From mnflammia86 at aol.com Sat Jul 18 11:28:14 2015 From: mnflammia86 at aol.com (Melissa Flammia) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 07:28:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Anatomy and Physiology Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14ea0ebf386-52bc-1aade@webprd-m48.mail.aol.com> Thank you all! Those are some very good suggestions! Melissa -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Pablo via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sherry Pablo Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 10:11 pm Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Anatomy and Physiology Questions Hi Melissa and all, I took Anatomy a couple of years ago. Many of the accommodations I used were already mentioned such as utilizing models to learn various structures of the body, extended time for exams and lab practicals, and attending open lab hours with my professor. If your professor creates handouts detailing what specific structures or parts of the body or model are fair game for testing during the practical, it is helpful to get these handouts a couple of days prior to lab. I found it easier to follow the descriptions my professor and other students explained while orientating my fingers since I had already familiarized myself with the terminology. Lab is hands on and it was useful to wear my Victor Stream around my neck to record descriptions as you do not want to get formaldehyde on your equipment. In my lab we worked on cadavers, a cat, a cow and sheep heart to name a few, and other models of the skeleton and organ systems. When it came to histology, tissue slides, I worked with my professor to understand how each slide looked under the microscope. When it came to the lab practical, my professor was my scribe. Parts of my exams that were based on diagrams or pictures were completed at a later time with my professor. Its important to communicate with your teacher to work out ways to learn the material. My professor set out time every week to work with me and he became descriptive enough in lectures that was beneficial to the rest of the class. I hope you enjoy the class as much as I did. If you have any questions you can reach me off list Sherry On 7/4/15, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > Hi, > > I too am taking human anatomy with the lab this coming semester. Here > are the accommodations my prof and I brainstormed in April that we > plan to use. > > * Make use of 3d models as much as possible. My prof has an entire > skeleton model she'll let me borrow for the semester, as well as some > models of individual organs. Some of the models, such as the one she > has for the brain, also split apart into different sections so you can > see lobes or parts of the organ at a time and how they connect to > others, as well as interior structures of that section. > * Come to open labs and have a TA prepared to work with me there if > needed on an individual basis. If your prof offers open labs (time > like office hours in the lab), take advantage of it. If not then ask > for some office hours with either her or one of the TAs. > 3. Extended time on tests, test proctoring, etc. I've never been one > to use a scribe before, but it might be helpful in the practical exams > while you're feeling the cadavers (assuming you're also using cadavers > in the labs). > 4. Make sure tactile drawings are available whenever a structure > doesn't have a model to feel. If possible get some time in open labs > or after class for a TA or the prof to show you the structure in the > cadavers as well. > > My lab does practical exams, so a lot of it will be identifying > structures spatially in reference to each other. In theory this > should also make the material for the lecture easier to learn. I'd > highly recommend looking into using models or getting some if your > prof doesn't own them already. Models won't just be useful for > you-they can be used again and again for other students. > > I hope this helps. > > On 7/4/15, Liliya Asadullina via nabs-l wrote: >> Hello Melissa, >> My name is Liliya and I am going to be taking AMP1 with lab this >> coming semester. >> I have gotten some accommodations already set up for my class. >> Please contact me directly at Lily1127 at me.com to talk about it if >> you'd like some advice. It's the quickest way to reach me by email or >> feel free to call me as well. >> Phone number: 267-644-6530. >> The quickest way to reach me is by texting or calling me because I >> might not have access to the internet these next few weeks. >> Thanks and hope to be able to help! >> Lily >> >> On 7/3/15, mnflammia86 at aol.com wrote: >>> Hi there. I have been a lurker on this mailing list, and so far all that >>> I >>> have read has been a great help. I hope that I have done this email >>> correctly, and it gets sent! I am curious if anyone has taken Anatomy >>> and >>> physiology with the lab? If so, what kind of accommodations helped the >>> best? >>> My college isn't one that suggests accommodations, so I am in the dark. >>> Greetings, >>> Melissa >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lily2011a%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spnfb14%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mnflammia86%40aol.com From gloria.graves at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 19:08:58 2015 From: gloria.graves at gmail.com (Gloria Graves) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:08:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad Message-ID: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> Hi all, Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad does not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would like to be able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without having to use any type of Internet connection. Is there a way to transfer movies from my computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about doing that? Thanks Sent from my iPhone From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 19:38:04 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:38:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad In-Reply-To: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> References: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00bf01d0c191$44e4d310$ceae7930$@gmail.com> Gloria: You can download movies and TV shows directly from the iTunes Store app on your iPad, then play what you have already downloaded when you're offline. The cheaper option, however, may be to download and subscribe to Netflix, then to download movies directly from the app for viewing offline. This would probably be cheaper because you are only paying for a monthly Netflix subscription rather than paying individually for each movie you buy. Hope this helps. Chris -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Graves via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Gloria Graves Subject: [nabs-l] iPad Hi all, Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad does not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would like to be able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without having to use any type of Internet connection. Is there a way to transfer movies from my computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about doing that? Thanks Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From gloria.graves at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 19:49:47 2015 From: gloria.graves at gmail.com (Gloria Graves) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:49:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad In-Reply-To: <00bf01d0c191$44e4d310$ceae7930$@gmail.com> References: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> <00bf01d0c191$44e4d310$ceae7930$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you :-) Gloria Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > > Gloria: > > You can download movies and TV shows directly from the iTunes Store app on > your iPad, then play what you have already downloaded when you're offline. > The cheaper option, however, may be to download and subscribe to Netflix, > then to download movies directly from the app for viewing offline. This > would probably be cheaper because you are only paying for a monthly Netflix > subscription rather than paying individually for each movie you buy. Hope > this helps. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Graves > via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:09 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Gloria Graves > Subject: [nabs-l] iPad > > Hi all, > Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am > wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV > shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad does > not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would like to be > able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without having to use any > type of Internet connection. Is there a way to transfer movies from my > computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about doing that? > Thanks > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gloria.graves%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sat Jul 18 20:17:05 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 16:17:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad In-Reply-To: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> References: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> Message-ID: <41EF2665036245589EF076D8A209F8A0@OwnerPC> Gloria, I do not use those flat devices but here is what I know. Unfortunately, you cannot get many free tv shows or movies for download. As you probably know, there are several free online streaming music services such as pandora, spotify, and rhapsody, but not for tv shows to view later. Many networks have options to stream currently played shows, but not for download. PBS has an archive of their popular shows and documentaries, but you have to stream them while online, not while off line. A free option might be for someone to DVR some shows for you and you might be able to somehow download them for later viewing. Another idea is youtube has clips of shows. I do not know how to do it, but you can download these shows as mp4 format. Then you can transfer them from your computer to a storage device such as a USB drive to plug into the ipad. If you can afford to purchase shows or movies, there are some options. First, you can buy shows and movies from itunes. These are saved on your device once downloaded and purchased. So viewing off line is an option. Second, I believe amazon has a way to buy movies as well. Not sure if that is doable right on the ipad, but you can definitely do it from a computer, and transfer them to the ipad. Third, if you anticipate using downloaded shows and movies often, you might want to subscribe to netflix. These programs can be downloaded for off line use and they are adding audio description to some of their programs too. Good luck. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:08 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Gloria Graves Subject: [nabs-l] iPad Hi all, Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad does not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would like to be able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without having to use any type of Internet connection. Is there a way to transfer movies from my computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about doing that? Thanks Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From gloria.graves at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 20:37:44 2015 From: gloria.graves at gmail.com (Gloria Graves) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:37:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad In-Reply-To: <41EF2665036245589EF076D8A209F8A0@OwnerPC> References: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> <41EF2665036245589EF076D8A209F8A0@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <4857EF6A-0C28-4273-9654-12416C3085AE@gmail.com> This was very helpful Thank you Gloria Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote: > > Gloria, > > > I do not use those flat devices but here is what I know. > Unfortunately, you cannot get many free tv shows or movies for download. > As you probably know, there are several free online streaming music services such as pandora, spotify, and rhapsody, but not for tv shows to view later. > Many networks have options to stream currently played shows, but not for download. PBS has an archive of their popular shows and documentaries, but you have to stream them while online, not while off line. > A free option might be for someone to DVR some shows for you and you might be able to somehow download them for later viewing. > Another idea is youtube has clips of shows. I do not know how to do it, but you can download these shows as mp4 format. Then you can transfer them from your computer to a storage device such as a USB drive to plug into the ipad. > > If you can afford to purchase shows or movies, there are some options. > First, you can buy shows and movies from itunes. > These are saved on your device once downloaded and purchased. So viewing off line is an option. > > Second, I believe amazon has a way to buy movies as well. > Not sure if that is doable right on the ipad, but you can definitely do it from a computer, and transfer them to the ipad. > > Third, if you anticipate using downloaded shows and movies often, you might > want to subscribe to netflix. These programs can be downloaded for off line use and they are adding audio description to some of their programs too. > > Good luck. > > Ashley > > > -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:08 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Gloria Graves > Subject: [nabs-l] iPad > > Hi all, > Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad does not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would like to be able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without having to use any type of Internet connection. Is there a way to transfer movies from my computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about doing that? > Thanks > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gloria.graves%40gmail.com From gloria.graves at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 20:40:20 2015 From: gloria.graves at gmail.com (Gloria Graves) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:40:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad In-Reply-To: <41EF2665036245589EF076D8A209F8A0@OwnerPC> References: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> <41EF2665036245589EF076D8A209F8A0@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <755630E0-2D27-4901-845C-E7231611382A@gmail.com> If I purchase them from Amazon where would it save on my iPad? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote: > > Gloria, > > > I do not use those flat devices but here is what I know. > Unfortunately, you cannot get many free tv shows or movies for download. > As you probably know, there are several free online streaming music services such as pandora, spotify, and rhapsody, but not for tv shows to view later. > Many networks have options to stream currently played shows, but not for download. PBS has an archive of their popular shows and documentaries, but you have to stream them while online, not while off line. > A free option might be for someone to DVR some shows for you and you might be able to somehow download them for later viewing. > Another idea is youtube has clips of shows. I do not know how to do it, but you can download these shows as mp4 format. Then you can transfer them from your computer to a storage device such as a USB drive to plug into the ipad. > > If you can afford to purchase shows or movies, there are some options. > First, you can buy shows and movies from itunes. > These are saved on your device once downloaded and purchased. So viewing off line is an option. > > Second, I believe amazon has a way to buy movies as well. > Not sure if that is doable right on the ipad, but you can definitely do it from a computer, and transfer them to the ipad. > > Third, if you anticipate using downloaded shows and movies often, you might > want to subscribe to netflix. These programs can be downloaded for off line use and they are adding audio description to some of their programs too. > > Good luck. > > Ashley > > > -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:08 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Gloria Graves > Subject: [nabs-l] iPad > > Hi all, > Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad does not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would like to be able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without having to use any type of Internet connection. Is there a way to transfer movies from my computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about doing that? > Thanks > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gloria.graves%40gmail.com From herekittykat97 at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 22:26:32 2015 From: herekittykat97 at gmail.com (Jewel) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 18:26:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad In-Reply-To: <4857EF6A-0C28-4273-9654-12416C3085AE@gmail.com> References: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com> <41EF2665036245589EF076D8A209F8A0@OwnerPC> <4857EF6A-0C28-4273-9654-12416C3085AE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0291843B-9A40-480A-B712-ABC202BA132D@gmail.com> You could also get your tv shows and movies with audio description, but in audio format only, from blindmicemegamall.com First, register at the website. Then, go to the bottom of the screen and do shift U twice until you hear blind mice movie vault. Enter on this. The one major rule with the movie vault is to never do a quick download. This would open you to viruses. If you get the window with a quick download, exit the window and try again. To download a movie, click on its name, which will bring up a new window. Do a control F and search for click here to start. Press that. Then do a alt N, and download as you normally groom would. But how do you get them on your iPad? Make sure you have Dropbox on both the computer to which you downloaded the movies and your iPad. Put the movies you want on your iPad in Dropbox on the computer and let them upload. If you don't have Voice dream reader, now is the time to get it. Once you have it, go down to the Add button. Choose Dropvox and choose the movie you want on your iPad. This will begin uploading the file to your voice dream reader, which will take what seems like forever but is actually about ten minutes. With all these steps, the end result will be movies in audio format with descriptions on your iPad. When you want to listen to one, just go into voice dream reader and double tap on the one you want. Hope this has been informative and helpful. It is the method I use for it the movies I can find in the movie vault. You can also download tv show episodes from the movie vault in a similar way. Jewel Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Gloria Graves via nabs-l wrote: > > This was very helpful > Thank you > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 18, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Gloria, >> >> >> I do not use those flat devices but here is what I know. >> Unfortunately, you cannot get many free tv shows or movies for download. >> As you probably know, there are several free online streaming music services such as pandora, spotify, and rhapsody, but not for tv shows to view later. >> Many networks have options to stream currently played shows, but not for download. PBS has an archive of their popular shows and documentaries, but you have to stream them while online, not while off line. >> A free option might be for someone to DVR some shows for you and you might be able to somehow download them for later viewing. >> Another idea is youtube has clips of shows. I do not know how to do it, but you can download these shows as mp4 format. Then you can transfer them from your computer to a storage device such as a USB drive to plug into the ipad. >> >> If you can afford to purchase shows or movies, there are some options. >> First, you can buy shows and movies from itunes. >> These are saved on your device once downloaded and purchased. So viewing off line is an option. >> >> Second, I believe amazon has a way to buy movies as well. >> Not sure if that is doable right on the ipad, but you can definitely do it from a computer, and transfer them to the ipad. >> >> Third, if you anticipate using downloaded shows and movies often, you might >> want to subscribe to netflix. These programs can be downloaded for off line use and they are adding audio description to some of their programs too. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Ashley >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l >> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:08 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Gloria Graves >> Subject: [nabs-l] iPad >> >> Hi all, >> Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad does not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would like to be able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without having to use any type of Internet connection. Is there a way to transfer movies from my computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about doing that? >> Thanks >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gloria.graves%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat97%40gmail.com From gloria.graves at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 22:57:18 2015 From: gloria.graves at gmail.com (Gloria G) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 17:57:18 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] iPad References: <62EFCCD6-611B-43D2-88B5-AAC5682D8546@gmail.com><41EF2665036245589EF076D8A209F8A0@OwnerPC><4857EF6A-0C28-4273-9654-12416C3085AE@gmail.com> <0291843B-9A40-480A-B712-ABC202BA132D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you so much for this information. I will take a look at this. Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jewel via nabs-l" To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" Cc: "Jewel" Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iPad > You could also get your tv shows and movies with audio description, but in > audio format only, from blindmicemegamall.com > First, register at the website. Then, go to the bottom of the screen and > do shift U twice until you hear blind mice movie vault. Enter on this. > The one major rule with the movie vault is to never do a quick download. > This would open you to viruses. If you get the window with a quick > download, exit the window and try again. > To download a movie, click on its name, which will bring up a new window. > Do a control F and search for click here to start. Press that. Then do a > alt N, and download as you normally groom would. > > But how do you get them on your iPad? Make sure you have Dropbox on both > the computer to which you downloaded the movies and your iPad. Put the > movies you want on your iPad in Dropbox on the computer and let them > upload. > If you don't have Voice dream reader, now is the time to get it. Once you > have it, go down to the Add button. Choose Dropvox and choose the movie > you want on your iPad. This will begin uploading the file to your voice > dream reader, which will take what seems like forever but is actually > about ten minutes. > With all these steps, the end result will be movies in audio format with > descriptions on your iPad. When you want to listen to one, just go into > voice dream reader and double tap on the one you want. > > Hope this has been informative and helpful. It is the method I use for it > the movies I can find in the movie vault. You can also download tv show > episodes from the movie vault in a similar way. > Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 18, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Gloria Graves via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> This was very helpful >> Thank you >> Gloria >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 18, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Gloria, >>> >>> >>> I do not use those flat devices but here is what I know. >>> Unfortunately, you cannot get many free tv shows or movies for download. >>> As you probably know, there are several free online streaming music >>> services such as pandora, spotify, and rhapsody, but not for tv shows to >>> view later. >>> Many networks have options to stream currently played shows, but not >>> for download. PBS has an archive of their popular shows and >>> documentaries, but you have to stream them while online, not while off >>> line. >>> A free option might be for someone to DVR some shows for you and you >>> might be able to somehow download them for later viewing. >>> Another idea is youtube has clips of shows. I do not know how to do it, >>> but you can download these shows as mp4 format. Then you can transfer >>> them from your computer to a storage device such as a USB drive to plug >>> into the ipad. >>> >>> If you can afford to purchase shows or movies, there are some options. >>> First, you can buy shows and movies from itunes. >>> These are saved on your device once downloaded and purchased. So viewing >>> off line is an option. >>> >>> Second, I believe amazon has a way to buy movies as well. >>> Not sure if that is doable right on the ipad, but you can definitely do >>> it from a computer, and transfer them to the ipad. >>> >>> Third, if you anticipate using downloaded shows and movies often, you >>> might >>> want to subscribe to netflix. These programs can be downloaded for off >>> line use and they are adding audio description to some of their programs >>> too. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Graves via nabs-l >>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:08 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Gloria Graves >>> Subject: [nabs-l] iPad >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Please forgive me if this isn't where I'm supposed to post this. I am >>> wondering if anyone can tell me how I might go about downloading free TV >>> shows or movies to the iPad to be able to watch them on trips? My iPad >>> does not have a data package so I use the Wi-Fi at my house but would >>> like to be able to watch the downloading movies on the iPad without >>> having to use any type of Internet connection. Is there a way to >>> transfer movies from my computer to the iPad and if so how do I go about >>> doing that? >>> Thanks >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gloria.graves%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat97%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gloria.graves%40gmail.com From kwakmiso at aol.com Sun Jul 19 02:31:26 2015 From: kwakmiso at aol.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:31:26 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D28FE224DE964B-ED4-1E2F20@webmail-va030.sysops.aol.com> Arielle, Thank you for the detailed reply. I will most likely be taking just this one class. Maybe additional research down the roald but it's not in my plan at least right now. I will have a human reader and I am asking the university to install JAWS in the psychology lab. I will take a look into the resources you shared as they may come handy sooner or later. I might also be writing to you off list. Thank you once again. Best, Miso -----Original Message----- From: Arielle Silverman via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Arielle Silverman Sent: Fri, Jul 17, 2015 5:43 pm Subject: Re: [nabs-l] SPSS Help Hi Miso, SPSS does work with JAWS, but it's clunky and inconvenient. A bigger issue is its expense. If you will have access to a university computer with JAWS and SPSS already installed, this won't be a problem, but if you will need to use your personal computer, you would have to buy an SPSS license. If you are just taking this one class, it is probably a better use of your time and money to either use a free statistical program or a human reader, partner, etc. Microsoft Excel will run many of the statistical functions needed for an intro class. Another option is an online calculator at www.graphpad.com/quickcalcs If you are just taking this one class and don't have access to a university computer, I would suggest asking your professor permission to do assignments in Excel or GraphPad. If you are planning to do independent research, or take multiple statistics classes, then it might be worth it to buy SPSS. SAS is a more accessible alternative, but can be harder to learn if you aren't being taught specific commands. If you go the SPSS route, keep in mind that data editing and output reading are not accessible yet, to my knowledge. You can work around this by importing your data from Excel into SPSS and then saving your output as a spreadsheet and opening it up in Excel. This is clunky, but it works. Feel free to email with more specific questions: arielle71 at gmail.com Best, Arielle On 7/17/15, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: > I hear that SAS is better; when I used SspSS, Jaws only partially worked. > I'm not sure if there was a knowledge and skill issue or not. However, I > would suggest using a braille display on the parts where jaws does not > work. > There are key commands for it. I'll do the best I can to find them and > send > them to you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:52 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] SPSS Help > > Hello, > I will be beginning a course on psychology research method in two weeks. I > am aware that my class will be utilizing SPSS as a part of our class for > statistical analysis. > How accessible is SPSS with JAWS? > Is there any tutorial I could read or listen to? > Or if you have experience using SPSS with JAWS and could help me out, I > would appreciate your time. > Thank you. > Best, > Miso Kwak > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kwakmiso%40aol.com From kwakmiso at aol.com Sun Jul 19 02:39:31 2015 From: kwakmiso at aol.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:39:31 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Tips for Using Audio Version of Textbooks? Message-ID: <8D28FE34604852F-ED4-1E3033@webmail-va030.sysops.aol.com> Hello, As the subject line indicates, I am asking for any tips when using audio recorded textbook. I have been mostly using hard copy or electronic Braille when it comes to studying. Even for leisurely reading I prefer reading with my hands rather than listening to the book. However, I may have to rely on an audiobook for a course this summer. When I read using hard copy Braille, I will sometimes copy/summarize important parts and when I read on BrailleNote Apex, I will put asterisks or other symbols to note different things or take notes in the brackets as I read. Would there be any equivalent when I am using audio textbook? For those of you who do this more often than I, do you take notes as you listen? How do you utilize bookmark functions when available? Thank you for your help in advance. Best, Miso From ropermeaghan at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 03:02:03 2015 From: ropermeaghan at gmail.com (Roper, Meaghan) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:02:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Tips For Using Audio Version Of Textbooks? Message-ID: Hi Miso, I have been using audiobooks for years. I find that when you are reading textbooks, you will have a more successful studying endeavor if you listen to the books at lower speeds. Generally screen readers or book readers are set at 100%, and anything above that is considered increased speed. I don't recommend going any higher than 175% when reading a textbook. When listening to a computerized voice, like on the Bookshare app Read2Goc I find that listening to the voice at a lower speed helps me to understand the reader. Computerized voices don't have distinct tones, or at least not as distinct as human tones. Also, sometimes the computerized voices can miss read specific pronunciations as words, such as the words "live" or "read" which have different pronunciations depending on the context. Finally, if you have a device that allows you to change the tone of the reader, I find that having lower tones and deeper voices make the reader easier to interpret on higher speeds. I think that about covers it for my tips and tricks, my only other suggestion would be to try and find your books on BARD or a site that has Daisy files recorded by human voice. Human voice tends to be easier to listen to, especially when studying. You can often find popular books (generally your English literature text books and novels) on BARD. I hope these tips help. -Meaghan From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 05:27:11 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:27:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: <58EE29F7-83B7-4D98-BE8B-1DD7B413DD60@gmail.com> References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> <58EE29F7-83B7-4D98-BE8B-1DD7B413DD60@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm surprised no one really mentioned the GWR (world record) as their favorite. Standing under the umbrellas, singing Federation songs while we waited for the GWR people to make us official was probably the highlight of my week. I felt so empowered after that. Hearing Justin's talk at NABS and Serena's speech in general session was great too. I recently spent time abroad and am involved in the #BlindAbroad campaign, so it was cool to have that spread to the Federation. I, like Chris, loved the 75th anniversary celebration through song. I also might be biased as I also sang in the choir, but it was great fun and I'm still amazed that we put it together in such a short time. It was one of the most fun performances I've done in quite a while. I also really enjoyed all the networking with new and old friends, and goofing around with the rest of the scholarship class when we had time to chill out together. Playing for a friend in the performing arts division talent competition was also fun; I got some pesky chords that were giving me trouble on the particular instrument I was using until then, so I was very pleased and had fun with it. That's my top 5/6 depending on how you count it. You really should try to come to convention. The NFB takes on a completely different and deeper meaning when you experience it in person. I listened in last year and now that I've been recharged wish I wouldn't have missed out. On 7/17/15, Hope Paulos via nabs-l wrote: > I guess my best memory would be meeting all the people. Getting to know > people and making friends! I worked the freedom scientific booth, so really > didn't have much time for extra activities… But for those people who came > and saw all of the new products, I met just about everyone of them. I hope > to go back next year, and maybe attend general session. > > Hope Paulos > >> On Jul 17, 2015, at 11:13 PM, Darian Smith via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Roanna, >> it is truly unfortunate that you couldn’t have made it this year. >> One of the things I love about the federation is that membership in it >> is very much a participatory activity. One can hear about convention, >> read about it, listen to it, but nothing is like going to a convention and >> being a part of the activities that go on, surrounded by the positivity, >> the energy and the hope for the possibilities of our future and knowing >> that we are the ones that can make it come true. >> I honestly can’t think of one memory or a group of them, because well, >> there was a lot. >> We celebrated our past, looked to our future and broke a world record in >> the present, and came away with actions we needed to follow through on to >> keep the work of our movement going. >> I hope that you will be a part of the action, the work, the excitement >> today and in the days that follow so that you might find something that >> inspires you to be with us in Orlando next year. >> Darian >>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Students, >>> >>> Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national >>> convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live >>> stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential >>> leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From rhondaprincess at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 10:56:05 2015 From: rhondaprincess at gmail.com (Rhonda Cruz) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:56:05 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Tips for Using Audio Version of Textbooks? In-Reply-To: <8D28FE34604852F-ED4-1E3033@webmail-va030.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D28FE34604852F-ED4-1E3033@webmail-va030.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: hi sino. whenever I Read using hard copy Braille. I offen. make notes. using my braille note. but when. I use books in audio. I offen. use the book marks. and mark. my place. I feel like hard copy braille. is much. easyer. for me. to read. my braille speed. is really fast. I offen read braille.and listen. in oudio books.more.offen. when.when I was going to college. On 7/18/15, Miso Kwak via nabs-l wrote: > Hello, > As the subject line indicates, I am asking for any tips when using > audio recorded textbook. > I have been mostly using hard copy or electronic Braille when it comes > to studying. Even for leisurely reading I prefer reading with my hands > rather than listening to the book. > However, I may have to rely on an audiobook for a course this summer. > When I read using hard copy Braille, I will sometimes copy/summarize > important parts and when I read on BrailleNote Apex, I will put > asterisks or other symbols to note different things or take notes in > the brackets as I read. > Would there be any equivalent when I am using audio textbook? > For those of you who do this more often than I, do you take notes as > you listen? How do you utilize bookmark functions when available? > > Thank you for your help in advance. > Best, > Miso > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rhondaprincess%40gmail.com > -- Have freedom. and listen to your hart Smilely. Rhonda & Mya.. From bridgetawalker13 at aol.com Sun Jul 19 13:10:05 2015 From: bridgetawalker13 at aol.com (Bridget Walker) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:10:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Tips for Using Audio Version of Textbooks? In-Reply-To: <8D28FE34604852F-ED4-1E3033@webmail-va030.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D28FE34604852F-ED4-1E3033@webmail-va030.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Miso, I rely on audio for all of my textbooks because I can no longer read braille for extended periods. I have found bookshare books are better than learningally when it comes to marking your place with bookmarks. With bookshare you can get the exact sentence and navigate based on sentence, paragraph, or through the whole section. With Learning Ally it is much harder. Learning Ally marks the whole section which makes it harder to refer back to the text for notes. When I take notes on reading, I listen by section and pause. When I pause I type important key points. Many times I can match my notes to the bookmarks. I recommend numbering your notes to each bookmark you put in the text I hope this helps. Bridget Sent from my iPad > On Jul 18, 27 Heisei, at 10:39 PM, Miso Kwak via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello, > As the subject line indicates, I am asking for any tips when using audio recorded textbook. > I have been mostly using hard copy or electronic Braille when it comes to studying. Even for leisurely reading I prefer reading with my hands rather than listening to the book. > However, I may have to rely on an audiobook for a course this summer. > When I read using hard copy Braille, I will sometimes copy/summarize important parts and when I read on BrailleNote Apex, I will put asterisks or other symbols to note different things or take notes in the brackets as I read. > Would there be any equivalent when I am using audio textbook? > For those of you who do this more often than I, do you take notes as you listen? How do you utilize bookmark functions when available? > > Thank you for your help in advance. > Best, > Miso > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.com From carlos.montas at att.net Sun Jul 19 16:07:34 2015 From: carlos.montas at att.net (Carlos Montas) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:07:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Tips for Using Audio Version of Textbooks? In-Reply-To: References: <8D28FE34604852F-ED4-1E3033@webmail-va030.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1070D02B-B730-4CC4-BC84-FECABE07D70E@att.net> Good morning to all. I am wondering when reading audio books, does any one use Voice stream on their i o s device to read audio books? If so, can you use book marks for example when using book-share with Voice-stream? I will be going back to school this fall to pursue my masters in rehabilitation counseling from the University of Kentucky distance-learning program. I also wanted to thank the person who posted the podcast about using pdf's documents. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Bridget Walker via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi Miso, > I rely on audio for all of my textbooks because I can no longer read braille for extended periods. > I have found bookshare books are better than learningally when it comes to marking your place with bookmarks. With bookshare you can get the exact sentence and navigate based on sentence, paragraph, or through the whole section. > With Learning Ally it is much harder. Learning Ally marks the whole section which makes it harder to refer back to the text for notes. > When I take notes on reading, I listen by section and pause. When I pause I type important key points. Many times I can match my notes to the bookmarks. > I recommend numbering your notes to each bookmark you put in the text > I hope this helps. > Bridget > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 18, 27 Heisei, at 10:39 PM, Miso Kwak via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Hello, >> As the subject line indicates, I am asking for any tips when using audio recorded textbook. >> I have been mostly using hard copy or electronic Braille when it comes to studying. Even for leisurely reading I prefer reading with my hands rather than listening to the book. >> However, I may have to rely on an audiobook for a course this summer. >> When I read using hard copy Braille, I will sometimes copy/summarize important parts and when I read on BrailleNote Apex, I will put asterisks or other symbols to note different things or take notes in the brackets as I read. >> Would there be any equivalent when I am using audio textbook? >> For those of you who do this more often than I, do you take notes as you listen? How do you utilize bookmark functions when available? >> >> Thank you for your help in advance. >> Best, >> Miso >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlos.montas%40att.net From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 00:31:02 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:31:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update In-Reply-To: References: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701d0c283$5bfa77b0$13ef6710$@gmail.com> Hey Kaiti! So sorry for not replying sooner. Emails have been absolutely crazy! Yes, I have yours. And yes, I have changed the necessary verbiage. Regardless, if you have an additional story, we would love to have it! Thanks so much! Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:41 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kaiti Shelton Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update Question... if I wrote a Teach Act letter back in December and the verbage is being changed would it be helpful for me to write an additional Smart Act letter? I'm willing to do so if it will help the cause, but don't want to cause clutter if it would only basically duplicate letters written by one person. If I'm okay to write another and can just write with different anecdotes or information I'd be happy to sit down and write one this weekend. Thanks, On 7/17/15, Bridget Walker via nabs-l wrote: > Hi Kathryn > I'de be happy to write one. Can you send me an example of one that has > already been sent? > Thanks, > Bridget > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 17, 27 Heisei, at 10:15 AM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Good morning NABS! >> >> Since the TEACH Act is no longer a bill we are >> fighting for, the personal testimonies that were sent in last January >> are in need of some alteration. Though content will not be changed, I >> want everyone to be aware that if you sent in a TEACH Act testimony, >> the verbiage of TEACH Act will be changed to say equal access to >> education or voluntary guidelines. >> >> Please, if this change bothers you in the slightest, feel free to >> send me an email at kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >> >> >> I am so glad that we have received some so far, but we need more! >> Please take ten minutes this weekend to tell your story. This >> personal testminoy mustn't be long. We just need at least a paragraph >> of you expressing support and need for equal access to education. >> Anecdotes are helpful! >> >> Email me off-list if you would like a sample letter and I will >> happily send you one. >> >> It is up to us as print-disabled students to make a difference in the >> lives of all blind students now and in the future. Thank you so much >> in advance for stepping up to the plate for all of us because equal >> access to education is not a privilege, it is an expectation! >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Kathryn Webster >> >> >> >> Secretary | National Association of Blind Students >> >> President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students >> >> Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut >> >> (203) 273-8463 >> >> Kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.c om > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmai l.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma il.com From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 00:34:50 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:34:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update In-Reply-To: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> References: <55a98e0a.46e70d0a.594e.2a15@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <001801d0c283$e4283910$ac78ab30$@gmail.com> Roanna and all, I love this question! Of course, I am unsure how to give just one answer, but I think I have to echo Kaiti's fave, the record-breaking umbrella mosaic. Let me clarify by saying I am totally not a morning person, but I was genuinely eager and excited to wake up that morning! Furthermore, the friendships and bonding that occurred while waiting to break a world record were invaluable. Second, I really enjoyed the NABS meeting and all of the speakers. We had a wide variety of interests and topics covered, and I think most were able to relate to something. Thanks for reading, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:21 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Roanna Bacchus Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Update Dear Students, Can you share with me your favorite memories from this year's national convention? I listened to each of the morning sessions via the live stream on my IPad. I had the chance to read this year's presidential leport earlier this week. Hope to hear from you soon. _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma il.com From carlos.montas at att.net Mon Jul 20 02:25:02 2015 From: carlos.montas at att.net (Carlos Montas) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:25:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app Message-ID: Good evening to you all. Has anybody used the Amazon Kindle app on your iPhone to read textbooks? If you have I'd be interested in your feedback and what your experience has been like using the Amazon Kindle app to read textbooks. I appreciate your assistance regarding this matter. Sincerely Carlos Montas. Sent from my iPhone From ropermeaghan at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 03:20:33 2015 From: ropermeaghan at gmail.com (Roper, Meaghan) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 23:20:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app Message-ID: <7293E4CF-E193-485E-985B-CAAAD41218D9@gmail.com> Carlos, The Amazon kindle and Amazon kindle app are very inaccessible in my option. I teccomend you try other means of accessing your materials. BARD, Bookshare, Audible, or even iBooks would be better. Another option is contacting the publisher and usually you can get the books as a PDF or Word doc. Hope that helps. Meaghan From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 05:37:51 2015 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 01:37:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app In-Reply-To: <7293E4CF-E193-485E-985B-CAAAD41218D9@gmail.com> References: <7293E4CF-E193-485E-985B-CAAAD41218D9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <60F26040-0DA9-4B48-927B-BCC1007F1538@gmail.com> The kindle app is very accessible! I also use KNFB Reader to scan books it works very well Thanks, Aaron Turning Disability into Ability > On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Roper, Meaghan via nabs-l wrote: > > Carlos, > > The Amazon kindle and Amazon kindle app are very inaccessible in my option. I teccomend you try other means of accessing your materials. BARD, Bookshare, Audible, or even iBooks would be better. Another option is contacting the publisher and usually you can get the books as a PDF or Word doc. Hope that helps. > > Meaghan > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 06:42:59 2015 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:42:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app In-Reply-To: <60F26040-0DA9-4B48-927B-BCC1007F1538@gmail.com> References: <7293E4CF-E193-485E-985B-CAAAD41218D9@gmail.com> <60F26040-0DA9-4B48-927B-BCC1007F1538@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Aaron. I just wanted to ask you, how do you scan books with the KNFB Reader? I'm just wondering since I'm planning to read a book that is not school related, and it has 250 print pages. How would the KNFB reader scan all this pages an din what format it it will be put on after you scan the pages? And will the print pages of th ebook will come out after you scan them? Just owndering! Let me know hwo this works ok? I will really appreciate it a lot! If you prefer you can write me off list in ordr not to clutter the list ok? I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! :) Helga Schreiber Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter. Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2015, at 1:37 AM, Aaron via nabs-l wrote: > > The kindle app is very accessible! I also use KNFB Reader to scan books it works very well > > Thanks, > Aaron > Turning Disability into Ability > >> On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Roper, Meaghan via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Carlos, >> >> The Amazon kindle and Amazon kindle app are very inaccessible in my option. I teccomend you try other means of accessing your materials. BARD, Bookshare, Audible, or even iBooks would be better. Another option is contacting the publisher and usually you can get the books as a PDF or Word doc. Hope that helps. >> >> Meaghan >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com From dburke at cocenter.org Mon Jul 20 14:37:58 2015 From: dburke at cocenter.org (Dan Burke) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:37:58 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app In-Reply-To: <7293E4CF-E193-485E-985B-CAAAD41218D9@gmail.com> References: <7293E4CF-E193-485E-985B-CAAAD41218D9@gmail.com> Message-ID: The Tech gurus at the National Center gave the Kindle app a C minus for academic purposes, C plus for general reading in 2013. Nothing has changed much since then It would be acceptable as a third-tier choice for textbooks, with Bookshare or Learning Ally a first-tier. >From a personal observation, I'd say it's quite adequate for a suspense or thriller novel - something you just read straight through without pause for reflection. Here's the review: https://nfb.org/blog/atblog/grading-kindle-accessibility-ios Best, Dan -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roper, Meaghan via nabs-l Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 9:21 PM To: NABS Cc: Roper, Meaghan Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app Carlos, The Amazon kindle and Amazon kindle app are very inaccessible in my option. I teccomend you try other means of accessing your materials. BARD, Bookshare, Audible, or even iBooks would be better. Another option is contacting the publisher and usually you can get the books as a PDF or Word doc. Hope that helps. Meaghan _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dburke%40cocenter.org From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 21:50:17 2015 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:50:17 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] packing for training center Message-ID: <55ad6d50.2a80460a.3260.162a@mx.google.com> Hi All, I will be leaving for LCB in about two months, and have been starting to think about what I might want to pack. I saw that there was a list of suggesttions on the website. I was mainly wondering if there was anything you took that was not on the list that you found helpful. Thank you for any suggesttions. Vejas From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 22:01:11 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:01:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update In-Reply-To: <001701d0c283$5bfa77b0$13ef6710$@gmail.com> References: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> <001701d0c283$5bfa77b0$13ef6710$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oops, please disregard my last email. Emails are definitely crazy for me, too. On 7/19/15, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: > Hey Kaiti! > So sorry for not replying sooner. Emails have been absolutely crazy! > Yes, I have yours. And yes, I have changed the necessary verbiage. > Regardless, if you have an additional story, we would love to have it! > Thanks so much! > Kathryn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton > via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:41 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Kaiti Shelton > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update > > Question... if I wrote a Teach Act letter back in December and the verbage > is being changed would it be helpful for me to write an additional Smart > Act > letter? I'm willing to do so if it will help the cause, but don't want to > cause clutter if it would only basically duplicate letters written by one > person. If I'm okay to write another and can just write with different > anecdotes or information I'd be happy to sit down and write one this > weekend. > > Thanks, > > On 7/17/15, Bridget Walker via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi Kathryn >> I'de be happy to write one. Can you send me an example of one that has >> already been sent? >> Thanks, >> Bridget >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jul 17, 27 Heisei, at 10:15 AM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Good morning NABS! >>> >>> Since the TEACH Act is no longer a bill we are >>> fighting for, the personal testimonies that were sent in last January >>> are in need of some alteration. Though content will not be changed, I >>> want everyone to be aware that if you sent in a TEACH Act testimony, >>> the verbiage of TEACH Act will be changed to say equal access to >>> education or voluntary guidelines. >>> >>> Please, if this change bothers you in the slightest, feel free to >>> send me an email at kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> I am so glad that we have received some so far, but we need more! >>> Please take ten minutes this weekend to tell your story. This >>> personal testminoy mustn't be long. We just need at least a paragraph >>> of you expressing support and need for equal access to education. >>> Anecdotes are helpful! >>> >>> Email me off-list if you would like a sample letter and I will >>> happily send you one. >>> >>> It is up to us as print-disabled students to make a difference in the >>> lives of all blind students now and in the future. Thank you so much >>> in advance for stepping up to the plate for all of us because equal >>> access to education is not a privilege, it is an expectation! >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kathryn Webster >>> >>> >>> >>> Secretary | National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut >>> >>> (203) 273-8463 >>> >>> Kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.c > om >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmai > l.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 22:02:15 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:02:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update In-Reply-To: References: <01af01d0c09b$10f17d70$32d47850$@gmail.com> <001701d0c283$5bfa77b0$13ef6710$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Great. I'll be sure to let the Ohio student division know this as well so they can send updates, write a letter if they did not in December, etc. On 7/20/15, Kaiti Shelton wrote: > Oops, please disregard my last email. Emails are definitely crazy for > me, too. > > On 7/19/15, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l wrote: >> Hey Kaiti! >> So sorry for not replying sooner. Emails have been absolutely crazy! >> Yes, I have yours. And yes, I have changed the necessary verbiage. >> Regardless, if you have an additional story, we would love to have it! >> Thanks so much! >> Kathryn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti >> Shelton >> via nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:41 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Kaiti Shelton >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Please read: equal access to education update >> >> Question... if I wrote a Teach Act letter back in December and the >> verbage >> is being changed would it be helpful for me to write an additional Smart >> Act >> letter? I'm willing to do so if it will help the cause, but don't want >> to >> cause clutter if it would only basically duplicate letters written by one >> person. If I'm okay to write another and can just write with different >> anecdotes or information I'd be happy to sit down and write one this >> weekend. >> >> Thanks, >> >> On 7/17/15, Bridget Walker via nabs-l wrote: >>> Hi Kathryn >>> I'de be happy to write one. Can you send me an example of one that has >>> already been sent? >>> Thanks, >>> Bridget >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 27 Heisei, at 10:15 AM, Kathryn Webster via nabs-l >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good morning NABS! >>>> >>>> Since the TEACH Act is no longer a bill we are >>>> fighting for, the personal testimonies that were sent in last January >>>> are in need of some alteration. Though content will not be changed, I >>>> want everyone to be aware that if you sent in a TEACH Act testimony, >>>> the verbiage of TEACH Act will be changed to say equal access to >>>> education or voluntary guidelines. >>>> >>>> Please, if this change bothers you in the slightest, feel free to >>>> send me an email at kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> I am so glad that we have received some so far, but we need more! >>>> Please take ten minutes this weekend to tell your story. This >>>> personal testminoy mustn't be long. We just need at least a paragraph >>>> of you expressing support and need for equal access to education. >>>> Anecdotes are helpful! >>>> >>>> Email me off-list if you would like a sample letter and I will >>>> happily send you one. >>>> >>>> It is up to us as print-disabled students to make a difference in the >>>> lives of all blind students now and in the future. Thank you so much >>>> in advance for stepping up to the plate for all of us because equal >>>> access to education is not a privilege, it is an expectation! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Kathryn Webster >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Secretary | National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut >>>> >>>> (203) 273-8463 >>>> >>>> Kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.c >> om >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmai >> l.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kaiti Shelton >> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present >> Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts >> Division 2015-2016 >> >> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From dsmithnfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 22:22:14 2015 From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:22:14 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] packing for training center In-Reply-To: <55ad6d50.2a80460a.3260.162a@mx.google.com> References: <55ad6d50.2a80460a.3260.162a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello: In my experience I found that there isn't really anything special that you need to pack for your nine months at a training center. I found that if you pack enough clothes for the weather changes and the walking that you'll do and a couple of dressier outfits for state convention or employment related events (if you have them) you should be fine. If you have technology such as a Braille notetaker or computer that you often use or want to use, you might bring that with you because you'll get a chance to work more with it. If there are particular events that the center ends up doing while you are in training and you think you might have stuff that makes sense to pack for it, you could do it, but sometimes / most of the time that's not entirely necessary. Always feel free to chat with the director of the center and maybe even see if there is a student there that might chat with you about any concerns you have around packing or anything else as you're getting closer to the start of your program. This is an exciting time but try not to overthink things too much or pour too much energy into worrying about things. You make good decisions this far and you will continue to make more of the same. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi All, > I will be leaving for LCB in about two months, and have been starting to think about what I might want to pack. > I saw that there was a list of suggesttions on the website. I was mainly wondering if there was anything you took that was not on the list that you found helpful. > Thank you for any suggesttions. > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com From louvins at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 23:37:56 2015 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:37:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] packing for training center In-Reply-To: References: <55ad6d50.2a80460a.3260.162a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I remember when I attended ICREWOOD, one of the things that I packed was my guitar because I am a musician. I had a lot of down time, and the computers they had for students to use didn't have internet access which was very annoying. I made a bit of money playing at a nearby park which was pretty cool. Congrads on going to LCB, hope you do very well there. Use the list they provided on the website, but don't stress to much about it. Good luck. On 7/20/15, Darian via nabs-l wrote: > Hello: > In my experience I found that there isn't really anything special that you > need to pack for your nine months at a training center. > I found that if you pack enough clothes for the weather changes and the > walking that you'll do and a couple of dressier outfits for state convention > or employment related events (if you have them) you should be fine. > If you have technology such as a Braille notetaker or computer that you > often use or want to use, you might bring that with you because you'll get a > chance to work more with it. > If there are particular events that the center ends up doing while you are > in training and you think you might have stuff that makes sense to pack for > it, you could do it, but sometimes / most of the time that's not entirely > necessary. Always feel free to chat with the director of the center and > maybe even see if there is a student there that might chat with you about > any concerns you have around packing or anything else as you're getting > closer to the start of your program. > This is an exciting time but try not to overthink things too much or pour > too much energy into worrying about things. > You make good decisions this far and you will continue to make more of the > same. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> I will be leaving for LCB in about two months, and have been starting to >> think about what I might want to pack. >> I saw that there was a list of suggesttions on the website. I was mainly >> wondering if there was anything you took that was not on the list that you >> found helpful. >> Thank you for any suggesttions. >> Vejas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > From arielle71 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 00:08:01 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:08:01 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] packing for training center In-Reply-To: References: <55ad6d50.2a80460a.3260.162a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Follow the list and you'll be fine. It doesn't get very cold in Ruston, so if you have snow clothes or boots, don't worry about bringing those. Arielle On 7/20/15, Joshua Hendrickson via nabs-l wrote: > I remember when I attended ICREWOOD, one of the things that I packed > was my guitar because I am a musician. I had a lot of down time, and > the computers they had for students to use didn't have internet access > which was very annoying. I made a bit of money playing at a nearby > park which was pretty cool. Congrads on going to LCB, hope you do > very well there. Use the list they provided on the website, but don't > stress to much about it. Good luck. > > On 7/20/15, Darian via nabs-l wrote: >> Hello: >> In my experience I found that there isn't really anything special that >> you >> need to pack for your nine months at a training center. >> I found that if you pack enough clothes for the weather changes and the >> walking that you'll do and a couple of dressier outfits for state >> convention >> or employment related events (if you have them) you should be fine. >> If you have technology such as a Braille notetaker or computer that you >> often use or want to use, you might bring that with you because you'll get >> a >> chance to work more with it. >> If there are particular events that the center ends up doing while you >> are >> in training and you think you might have stuff that makes sense to pack >> for >> it, you could do it, but sometimes / most of the time that's not entirely >> necessary. Always feel free to chat with the director of the center and >> maybe even see if there is a student there that might chat with you about >> any concerns you have around packing or anything else as you're getting >> closer to the start of your program. >> This is an exciting time but try not to overthink things too much or >> pour >> too much energy into worrying about things. >> You make good decisions this far and you will continue to make more of >> the >> same. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> I will be leaving for LCB in about two months, and have been starting to >>> think about what I might want to pack. >>> I saw that there was a list of suggesttions on the website. I was >>> mainly >>> wondering if there was anything you took that was not on the list that >>> you >>> found helpful. >>> Thank you for any suggesttions. >>> Vejas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 17:26:54 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:26:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bluetooth pairing Message-ID: Hi all, I just bought a set of bluetooth aftershock headphones and love them. I've never had bluetooth ones before, but I've used these quite a bit with my phone and now my laptop. Is it possible to pair them to a BrailleSense as well? I've never really heard of people doing that with notetakers but it would be nice if I could. What about pairing the headset with the notetaker and then pairing the notetaker with my IPhone? I'm not very knowledgeable about bluetooth stuff at this point, so any information would be helpful. -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From bjduarte at asu.edu Tue Jul 21 18:04:35 2015 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:04:35 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Bluetooth pairing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Kaiti, As for pairing your bluetooth headphones to your Braille Note, this is surely possible as long as there is a Bluetooth manager on the Braille Note. I would imagine there would be given the technology but since I myself do not own one I cannot say for sure. If you look in the settings option of your Braille Note you will want to search for an option that says Bluetooth. If you find this simply follow the same process as you did on your computer or iPhone and they should connect no problem. To answer your last question regarding the pairing of your head phones to your Braille Note, then to your iPhone. You could pair the headphones to your iPhone then pair the Braille Note Braille display to the iPhone. It would not work the other way with the headphones paired to the Braille Note and the Braille note paired to the phone. Basically how it works is there is a host which in this case would be the iPhone, and there are devices which can connect to the host. In this situation the Braille display and the headphones are both devices that should pair to the host i.e. iPhone. I hope this helps a little bit. Good luck! Go Devils! Bryan Duarte ASU Software Engineering QwikEyes CEO > On Jul 21, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > Kaiti From martinezana770 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 18:19:07 2015 From: martinezana770 at gmail.com (martinezana770 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:19:07 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Help please Message-ID: <46E3F119-21FE-4696-B8AD-4A3B49B1A7CE@gmail.com> Hi all my name is Ana and I am a Blind high school student after high school I would like to do the adult program at the Colorado Center for the blind so that I can be more independent in order to achieve this I need your help Please share my campaign with as many people as you can and if possible please donate thanks in advance http://www.gofundme.com/b1vigk Sent from my iPhone From arielle71 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 18:26:42 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:26:42 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Help please In-Reply-To: <46E3F119-21FE-4696-B8AD-4A3B49B1A7CE@gmail.com> References: <46E3F119-21FE-4696-B8AD-4A3B49B1A7CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ana. I tried to contribute to your fund-raiser twice and both times it declined my credit card and activated my bank's fraud detection system. I think maybe it has something to do with the currency being euros instead of dollars? Arielle On 7/21/15, Ana via nabs-l wrote: > Hi all my name is Ana and I am a Blind high school student after high school > I would like to do the adult program at the Colorado Center for the blind so > that I can be more independent in order to achieve this I need your help > Please share my campaign with as many people as you can and if possible > please donate thanks in advance > > http://www.gofundme.com/b1vigk > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From kfarrow at colled.msstate.edu Tue Jul 21 18:27:14 2015 From: kfarrow at colled.msstate.edu (Farrow, Kendra) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:27:14 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Help please In-Reply-To: <46E3F119-21FE-4696-B8AD-4A3B49B1A7CE@gmail.com> References: <46E3F119-21FE-4696-B8AD-4A3B49B1A7CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Anna, You should sign up with vocational rehab. They often help young adults attend these programs. Here is the link to a list of the programs by state. http://ntac.blind.msstate.edu/information-and-resources/ncsab/ All the best. Kendra -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ana via nabs-l Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:19 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: martinezana770 at gmail.com Subject: [nabs-l] Help please Hi all my name is Ana and I am a Blind high school student after high school I would like to do the adult program at the Colorado Center for the blind so that I can be more independent in order to achieve this I need your help Please share my campaign with as many people as you can and if possible please donate thanks in advance http://www.gofundme.com/b1vigk Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kfarrow%40colled.msstate.edu From jfranks at nfbtx.org Tue Jul 21 20:26:21 2015 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:26:21 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Looking for interested Committee Members for the Projects Commiteeof the NFB Community Service Division Message-ID: Fellow Students, My name is Jonathan Franks. I am a recently elected Board Member for the NFB Community Service Division. I am also the Projects Committee Chair for this division. The goal of this committee is to create two projects, one to happen during the next year and the second to be part of our 2016 NFb National Convention. The first project will be The Service Challenge. The goal of this project is to engage with individual members,chapters, divisions, and affiliates in community service and provide a supportive environment where we will learn of new service opportunities. Thus in turn learning how community service can impact our lives and encourage others to learn of our movement. The Service Challenge is a friendly challenge amongst individuals, chapters, divisions and affiliates to create the most innovative and exciting community service project. The goal is also to collaborate amongst the committee members to create and implement a community service project for next year’s NFB National Convention. When applying to college or and University, community service is looked very highly upon. Also, many employers are very pleased when applicants have numerous community service projects on their resume. I encourage to those whom are interested to please contact me offlist at jfranks at nfbtx.org if you would like to become involved or have any questions. Let’s go build the Federation and let’s get involved! Jonathan Franks Board Member National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Board Member National Federation of the Blind of Texas From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue Jul 21 22:30:50 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:30:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app In-Reply-To: References: <7293E4CF-E193-485E-985B-CAAAD41218D9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Interesting observations. So you can do general leissure reading, but not academic reading on the app. Is this because rewind and fastforward buttons are not labeled and that books are not marked up enough? That's too bad kindle is not too accessible as kindle books are a big source of ebooks. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Dan Burke via nabs-l Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:37 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Dan Burke Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app The Tech gurus at the National Center gave the Kindle app a C minus for academic purposes, C plus for general reading in 2013. Nothing has changed much since then It would be acceptable as a third-tier choice for textbooks, with Bookshare or Learning Ally a first-tier. >From a personal observation, I'd say it's quite adequate for a suspense or thriller novel - something you just read straight through without pause for reflection. Here's the review: https://nfb.org/blog/atblog/grading-kindle-accessibility-ios Best, Dan -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roper, Meaghan via nabs-l Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 9:21 PM To: NABS Cc: Roper, Meaghan Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading textbooks with the Amazon Kindle app Carlos, The Amazon kindle and Amazon kindle app are very inaccessible in my option. I teccomend you try other means of accessing your materials. BARD, Bookshare, Audible, or even iBooks would be better. Another option is contacting the publisher and usually you can get the books as a PDF or Word doc. Hope that helps. Meaghan _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dburke%40cocenter.org _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From wdg31415 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 23:07:45 2015 From: wdg31415 at gmail.com (William Grussenmeyer) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:07:45 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] participants needed for research study Message-ID: Hello, We at the University of Nevada, Reno are conducting a research study on when and how people who are blind create diagrams, graphs and visual presentations , etc. for work, school, and leaisure. The study looks at how people who ar blind are creatively solving this problem with various technologies or through non-technological means and what problems they might be encountering. This is a continuation of our previous online survey study. This study will help inform the creation of new touchscreen and tablet apps for blind people to build diagrams such as street maps, organizational charts, and state charts used in software engineering, computer architecture and computer theory. It is an interview study that would take about an hour over Skype or on the phone, and you will be compensated for your time with a $20 Amazon gift card or $20 iTunes gift card. If you are interested in participating or know anyone who might be interested in participating, please email us at wdg31415 at gmail.com Thanks, -- William Grussenmeyer PhD Student, Computer Science University of Nevada, Reno NSF Fellow From bestca21 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 22:44:47 2015 From: bestca21 at gmail.com (Caitlin Best) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:44:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction Message-ID: Hello everyone, My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Caitlin From dsmithnfb at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 23:04:12 2015 From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:04:12 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Kaitlyn, Welcome to the list! My name is Darian Smith I am a past member of the national Association of blind students board of directors and incidentally, A native of San Francisco. I'm sure you will find many people with the answer to this question and many other questions that you might have. If I can be of any assistance please do feel free to be in touch with me off list. Otherwise, welcome! We are glad that you are here, glad to learn with you and from you! Best, Darian Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Caitlin > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsmithnfb%40gmail.com From lucysirianni at earthlink.net Thu Jul 23 16:37:03 2015 From: lucysirianni at earthlink.net (Lucy Sirianni) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:37:03 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction Message-ID: Hi Caitlin, and welcome to the list! I, too, am a graduate student in the Bay Area, working toward my Ph.D. in English at UC Berkeley. Your studies sound very interesting, and I hope to hear more about them someday. While I have never studied Japanese or Chinese myself, I do have a blind friend who has studied the latter, and I'd be glad to put the two of you in touch if you'd like. Again, welcome, and very best of luck with grad school! Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Caitlin Best via nabs-l References: Message-ID: Caitlin, My name is Edgar. I just wanted to reply to your message to let you know that I've studied Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and other languages that are not all too related. However, this was out of mere interest. I haven't taken formal university courses. Although, as it stands, I am in a university program in where I am majoring in both Computer Science and Japanese. Though as of yet,I haven't participated in such formal curriculum, I do have ideas for you that you may be able to incorporated into your studies. Also, supplementary material may be helpful, such as listening to podcasts corresponding to your target languages. You will find that in university courses, for Japanese, they will emphasize the reading of the corresponding Chinese-character-based alphabet known as Kanji. If you would like to know more, feel free to get in contact with me. Thanks. On 7/23/15, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l wrote: > Hi Caitlin, and welcome to the list! I, too, am a graduate > student in the Bay Area, working toward my Ph.D. in English at > UC Berkeley. Your studies sound very interesting, and I hope to > hear more about them someday. While I have never studied > Japanese or Chinese myself, I do have a blind friend who has > studied the latter, and I'd be glad to put the two of you in > touch if you'd like. > > Again, welcome, and very best of luck with grad school! > > Lucy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caitlin Best via nabs-l To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" Date sent: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:44:47 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction > > Hello everyone, > > My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate > student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian > Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken > a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking > Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way > to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thank you, > Caitlin > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni% > 40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/1419goku%40gmail.com > -- Thanks for reading. Have a good day. If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and check us out. From bestca21 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 20:10:04 2015 From: bestca21 at gmail.com (Caitlin Best) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:10:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Lucy, Thank you for the welcome! I would be absolutely greatful if you could get me in touch with your friend. I hope you're doing well, and maybe some time we could grab some coffee or something when we're not so busy! Thanks, Caitlin Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:37, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi Caitlin, and welcome to the list! I, too, am a graduate student in the Bay Area, working toward my Ph.D. in English at UC Berkeley. Your studies sound very interesting, and I hope to hear more about them someday. While I have never studied Japanese or Chinese myself, I do have a blind friend who has studied the latter, and I'd be glad to put the two of you in touch if you'd like. > > Again, welcome, and very best of luck with grad school! > > Lucy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caitlin Best via nabs-l To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" Date sent: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:44:47 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction > > Hello everyone, > > My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Caitlin > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni% > 40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com From bestca21 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 20:12:09 2015 From: bestca21 at gmail.com (Caitlin Best) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:12:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Edgar, Feel free to email me off list and we can chat! :) Thanks!! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:51, Edgar Lozano via nabs-l wrote: > > Caitlin, > > My name is Edgar. I just wanted to reply to your message to let you > know that I've studied Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and other languages > that are not all too related. However, this was out of mere interest. > I haven't taken formal university courses. Although, as it stands, I > am in a university program in where I am majoring in both Computer > Science and Japanese. Though as of yet,I haven't participated in such > formal curriculum, I do have ideas for you that you may be able to > incorporated into your studies. Also, supplementary material may be > helpful, such as listening to podcasts corresponding to your target > languages. You will find that in university courses, for Japanese, > they will emphasize the reading of the corresponding > Chinese-character-based alphabet known as Kanji. If you would like to > know more, feel free to get in contact with me. > > Thanks. > >> On 7/23/15, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi Caitlin, and welcome to the list! I, too, am a graduate >> student in the Bay Area, working toward my Ph.D. in English at >> UC Berkeley. Your studies sound very interesting, and I hope to >> hear more about them someday. While I have never studied >> Japanese or Chinese myself, I do have a blind friend who has >> studied the latter, and I'd be glad to put the two of you in >> touch if you'd like. >> >> Again, welcome, and very best of luck with grad school! >> >> Lucy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Caitlin Best via nabs-l > To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" > Date sent: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:44:47 -0400 >> Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate >> student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian >> Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken >> a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking >> Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way >> to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thank you, >> Caitlin >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni% >> 40earthlink.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/1419goku%40gmail.com > > > -- > Thanks for reading. > Have a good day. > If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and > check us out. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com From kwakmiso at aol.com Thu Jul 23 22:53:42 2015 From: kwakmiso at aol.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:53:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D293B18EB50096-EBC-20DF34@webmail-vm089.sysops.aol.com> Welcome Caitlin! I am Miso, a rising junior at UCLA. Nice to have one more Californian on this list.. I have not studied Japanese or Chinese formally, but I am fluent in Korean. If you get interested in learning the language and culture, I would be happy to help. I also know a few friends who know Japanese Braille and handful of sighted Chinese speaking friends and Japanese speaking friends. Lastly, California Association of Blind Students, which is a California division of NABS, would love to have you. Please feel free to write to me off list if you are interested in any of things I mentioned above. Warmly, Miso Kwak -----Original Message----- From: Caitlin Best via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Caitlin Best Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2015 1:12 pm Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Introduction Hi Edgar, Feel free to email me off list and we can chat! :) Thanks!! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:51, Edgar Lozano via nabs-l wrote: > > Caitlin, > > My name is Edgar. I just wanted to reply to your message to let you > know that I've studied Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and other languages > that are not all too related. However, this was out of mere interest. > I haven't taken formal university courses. Although, as it stands, I > am in a university program in where I am majoring in both Computer > Science and Japanese. Though as of yet,I haven't participated in such > formal curriculum, I do have ideas for you that you may be able to > incorporated into your studies. Also, supplementary material may be > helpful, such as listening to podcasts corresponding to your target > languages. You will find that in university courses, for Japanese, > they will emphasize the reading of the corresponding > Chinese-character-based alphabet known as Kanji. If you would like to > know more, feel free to get in contact with me. > > Thanks. > >> On 7/23/15, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi Caitlin, and welcome to the list! I, too, am a graduate >> student in the Bay Area, working toward my Ph.D. in English at >> UC Berkeley. Your studies sound very interesting, and I hope to >> hear more about them someday. While I have never studied >> Japanese or Chinese myself, I do have a blind friend who has >> studied the latter, and I'd be glad to put the two of you in >> touch if you'd like. >> >> Again, welcome, and very best of luck with grad school! >> >> Lucy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Caitlin Best via nabs-l > To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" > Date sent: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:44:47 -0400 >> Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate >> student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian >> Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken >> a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking >> Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way >> to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thank you, >> Caitlin >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni% >> 40earthlink.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/1419goku%40gmail.com > > > -- > Thanks for reading. > Have a good day. > If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and > check us out. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kwakmiso%40aol.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 03:13:56 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:13:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002b01d0c5be$c8455730$58d00590$@gmail.com> Caitlin: Welcome to the NABS list! My name is Chris Nusbaum, and I am a rising high school senior from Maryland. Currently I am honored and privileged to serve on the NABS Board of Directors, to which I was elected during this year's national convention. I hope that you will find the discussion here informative, entertaining and sometimes thought-provoking. It's always great to read the contributions of one of our new members, and I am very much looking forward to reading yours. I also hope that you will join our organization as an active member if you have not done so already. Please don't hesitate to contact us if we can be of any help to you as you learn more about NABS and our work. Best of luck in your studies. Chris -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Caitlin Best via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:45 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Caitlin Best Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction Hello everyone, My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Caitlin _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From mausbun at unr.edu Fri Jul 24 04:08:16 2015 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 04:08:16 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: <002b01d0c5be$c8455730$58d00590$@gmail.com> References: , <002b01d0c5be$c8455730$58d00590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <79E0714D132BCB43A4B18D328D9A445B01235856@UBOX3.unr.edu> Good evening Caitlin: My name is Michael Ausbun, and I am right over the hill in Reno Nevada, attending the University of Nevada as a Junior. Similar to Chris, I was recently honored with the privilege of being elected to the NABS board. I wanted to welcome you to the list, as many others have thus far. Additionally, I have some relevant information regarding Chinese and Japanese courses, and the subsequent accommodations that others have found to be successful. Please note accommodations are like socks: you can use most of them, but some fit better than others do. The accommodations, which a previous student at my university utilized, were standard. Extended time on exams, a human note taker, recording in the classroom, and braille materials. Where it gets a little different was in the type of braille utilized. They requested that all braille be uniformly written to reflect Romogi, the roman-style print. That is, the braille would use roman characters appose to the Japanese or Chinese characters. Further, they had to request from the professor that all work be accepted in this format. As per ADA requirements, most professors O.K’Ed it, because it was a ‘reasonable’ accommodation, and, at the end of the day, professors are people to. I hope some of this was intelligible. If not, or if you have any questions pertaining to Philosophy, political Science, Anthropology, or religious studies or pretty much anything else because as a good philosophy student ought to, I have opinions on everything, feel free to email me either on here, or off list. Respectfully, Michael Ausbun Secretary, Nevada Association of Blind Students Board member, National Association of Blind Students “The National Federation of the Blind knows that Blindness is not the characteristic which defines you. Low expectations create obstacles; live the life you want.” ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l [nabs-l at nfbnet.org] Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:13 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Introduction Caitlin: Welcome to the NABS list! My name is Chris Nusbaum, and I am a rising high school senior from Maryland. Currently I am honored and privileged to serve on the NABS Board of Directors, to which I was elected during this year's national convention. I hope that you will find the discussion here informative, entertaining and sometimes thought-provoking. It's always great to read the contributions of one of our new members, and I am very much looking forward to reading yours. I also hope that you will join our organization as an active member if you have not done so already. Please don't hesitate to contact us if we can be of any help to you as you learn more about NABS and our work. Best of luck in your studies. Chris -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Caitlin Best via nabs-l Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:45 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Caitlin Best Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction Hello everyone, My name is Caitlin Best and I will be an incoming graduate student at the University of San Francisco majoring in Asian Pacific studies. I was curious to know if any of you have taken a language like Chinese or Japanese before? I'll be taking Japanese for two years and I'm trying to figure out the best way to learn the language. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Caitlin _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr.edu From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 04:23:11 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:23:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including attachments. Message-ID: Hi, all, I'm wondering if such a tool exists; I'm trying to find a pre-designed site that has tools for filling out information as in a form, along with spots for people to upload attachments. If a tool exists that would allow survey-takers, candidates, or insert other terminology for subjects here to fill out information, upload stuff, and for that stuff to be collected and emails sent to the recipient of the data and to the people who submit to confirm their entries, that would be ideal. I'm not sure where to even start with searching on my own as I don't know what you would even call such sites, but it would be wonderful if anyone knows of any. It would be especially helpful if there was a mode in set up where the recipient of the data could modify what the questions with edit boxes ask, the text content, and what the fields for documents require. I'm by no means a tech whiz and don't have any coding experience, nor do the people who would be working on this potential project with me. I am also interested in it for personal reasons as I could such a resource, if it exists, in my student division quite a bit instead of more primitive ways of taking information from members. At this point I'm aware of Google Forms but don't think that allows for document uploads. That's the extent of what I know so far. Any knowledge on this topic would be wonderful. Thanks in advance for any responses. -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 04:37:30 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:37:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including attachments. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301d0c5ca$73fb2950$5bf17bf0$@gmail.com> Hi Kaiti: I'm not sure if I'm fully understanding the question, but have you tried surveymonkey.com? Chris -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:23 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kaiti Shelton Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including attachments. Hi, all, I'm wondering if such a tool exists; I'm trying to find a pre-designed site that has tools for filling out information as in a form, along with spots for people to upload attachments. If a tool exists that would allow survey-takers, candidates, or insert other terminology for subjects here to fill out information, upload stuff, and for that stuff to be collected and emails sent to the recipient of the data and to the people who submit to confirm their entries, that would be ideal. I'm not sure where to even start with searching on my own as I don't know what you would even call such sites, but it would be wonderful if anyone knows of any. It would be especially helpful if there was a mode in set up where the recipient of the data could modify what the questions with edit boxes ask, the text content, and what the fields for documents require. I'm by no means a tech whiz and don't have any coding experience, nor do the people who would be working on this potential project with me. I am also interested in it for personal reasons as I could such a resource, if it exists, in my student division quite a bit instead of more primitive ways of taking information from members. At this point I'm aware of Google Forms but don't think that allows for document uploads. That's the extent of what I know so far. Any knowledge on this topic would be wonderful. Thanks in advance for any responses. -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From kwakmiso at aol.com Fri Jul 24 07:11:15 2015 From: kwakmiso at aol.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:11:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? Message-ID: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Hello everyone, What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. Would you do it on case by case basis? For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 11:25:15 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 07:25:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> What you just said is exactly how I would do it. In most cases, it does not serve you to reveal the fact that you have a visual disability, or a disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, if you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that is best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I hope this helps. Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? Hello everyone, What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. Would you do it on case by case basis? For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From carlymih at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 12:38:46 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 05:38:46 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Morning, Justin, If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. Car >disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to disclose >such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, >and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, if >you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in >other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before >you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance >of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can >just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that is >best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an >accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then >you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I >hope this helps. > >Justin. >-----Original Message----- >From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via >nabs-l >Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >Cc: Miso Kwak >Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application >process? > >Hello everyone, >What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >internships and/or jobs? >I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it >once, but I had an easy way. >My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an >accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a >blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about >when and how to disclose my blindness. >I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to >complete one of my minor requirements. >So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that >I am blind. >Would you do it on case by case basis? >For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves >blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were >applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >Thank you in advance. >Miso Kwak > > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >.com > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From carlymih at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 12:42:55 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 05:42:55 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Morning, Miso, It's not a friggen secret, is it? Don't you use a stick? As a total, I know I am not fooling anyohne so why hastle with lofty ideas like disclosure? If you're a partial, or don't use a stick, that may be something with which you might need to give some extra thought? Car12:11 AM 7/24/2015, Miso Kwak via nabs-l wrote: >Hello everyone, >What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying >to internships and/or jobs? >I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have >done it once, but I had an easy way. >My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for >making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited >because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not >have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. >I am currently applying to different internships with hope of >getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. >So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle >disclosing that I am blind. >Would you do it on case by case basis? >For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, >if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting >job, you would not? >I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >Thank you in advance. >Miso Kwak > > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From sgermano at asu.edu Fri Jul 24 13:00:29 2015 From: sgermano at asu.edu (Suzanne Germano) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:00:29 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> Message-ID: My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I am legally blind. What i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and holding paperwork to my nose. If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just show up at the interview with your cane or dog. You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then you add that under awards. Suzanne On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Morning, Justin, > > If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what > do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be > forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest to > me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my > part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard this > blindness in a positive light. > Car > >> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >> disclose >> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, >> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, >> if >> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in >> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before >> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance >> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can >> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >> is >> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an >> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then >> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I >> hope this helps. >> >> Justin. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >> via >> nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application >> process? >> >> Hello everyone, >> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >> internships and/or jobs? >> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it >> once, but I had an easy way. >> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making >> an >> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a >> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about >> when and how to disclose my blindness. >> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one >> to >> complete one of my minor requirements. >> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >> that >> I am blind. >> Would you do it on case by case basis? >> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves >> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were >> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >> Thank you in advance. >> Miso Kwak >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu > From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 13:02:39 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:02:39 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship applicationprocess? Message-ID: <55b237a6.c347810a.a474.0631@mx.google.com> Hi Miso thanks for your message. When I was hired for my internship I did not disclose my blindness. I am taking the place of the previous accessibility consultant who was also blind. When applying for a corporate internship I would put that I am visually impaired on the job application. From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 13:51:40 2015 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:51:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship applicationprocess? In-Reply-To: <55b237a6.c347810a.a474.0631@mx.google.com> References: <55b237a6.c347810a.a474.0631@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Personally, I would not disclose on the application. I would wait until the interview, so that I might present myself in the best possible light to my prospective boss. I don’t want someone making assumptions about my capabilities before I even get to the interview. > On Jul 24, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi Miso thanks for your message. When I was hired for my internship I did not disclose my blindness. I am taking the place of the previous accessibility consultant who was also blind. When applying for a corporate internship I would put that I am visually impaired on the job application. > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From kmaent1 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 13:55:21 2015 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:55:21 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internshipapplication process? Message-ID: <55b243f0.0314320a.faf8.4094@mx.google.com> Car, the worry is that in an interview you can show that you're competent and discuss things like non-visual techniques for performing your duties in the job you're applying for, but if you put it on an application the people considering hiring you might assume that you can't do the job because you're blind and just throw out your application instead of granting you an interview. And yes, it's a personal characteristic, but people don't put personal characteristics on applications unless they're somehow relevant to the job. For instance, in nearly all jobs you don't put things like your race, weight, sexual orientation, political and religious beliefs, medical history, marital status, number of children, etc. on the application. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l ,nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 05:42:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internshipapplication process? Morning, Miso, It's not a friggen secret, is it? Don't you use a stick? As a total, I know I am not fooling anyohne so why hastle with lofty ideas like disclosure? If you're a partial, or don't use a stick, that may be something with which you might need to give some extra thought? Car12:11 AM 7/24/2015, Miso Kwak via nabs-l wrote: Hello everyone, What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. Would you do it on case by case basis? For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40co mcast.net _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma il.com From blindstein at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 15:57:35 2015 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:57:35 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> Message-ID: <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, if you served on the board of the Association of blind students at any level, you could put that on your resume as part of your experience. This is if you were looking to disclose. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l wrote: > > My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it is an > issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward for me to say > Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I am legally blind. What > i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and holding > paperwork to my nose. > > If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just show up at > the interview with your cane or dog. > > You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now don't > hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then you add that > under awards. > > Suzanne > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> Morning, Justin, >> >> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what >> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be >> forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest to >> me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my >> part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard this >> blindness in a positive light. >> Car >> >>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>> disclose >>> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, >>> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, >>> if >>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in >>> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before >>> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance >>> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >>> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can >>> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >>> is >>> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an >>> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then >>> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> Justin. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>> via >>> nabs-l >>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application >>> process? >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >>> internships and/or jobs? >>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it >>> once, but I had an easy way. >>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making >>> an >>> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a >>> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about >>> when and how to disclose my blindness. >>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one >>> to >>> complete one of my minor requirements. >>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >>> that >>> I am blind. >>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves >>> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were >>> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>> Thank you in advance. >>> Miso Kwak >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com From bjduarte at asu.edu Fri Jul 24 16:48:35 2015 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:48:35 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was recently contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with them in the Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume in hand already and I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make several references to my research focus areas, student organizations I am apart of, and my student clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my resume give insight to my focus on the blind and low vision community. I also make reference to the different tools I use and am proficient in including the screen readers I use and Braille display. Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about an hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview process would operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to share my screen and google docs to share with an engineer so they could watch me write code collaboratively. This part was ok I still did not disclose my blindness. Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a series of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would be expected to write code once again, but this time it would be writing it on a white board. For software engineers this is a common way of laying out code when working on teams so I was familiar with the possibility this would be asked of me. Now I had a decision to make here. I could disclose my blindness and give them the opportunity to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I could show up to the interview concealing my disability and potentially set myself up for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and google docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white boarding code. My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice my references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive technology, he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a software engineer who has no problem developing software with the best of them but I do it as a blind person. As you might guess he was able to read between the lines when he reviewed my resume and already had a pretty good idea but as a good recruiter he was not going to ask the question unless I first brought it up. To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers this August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews they are well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and more than willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we as people with a disability in a world that is becoming more and more aware of our presents and drive for equal and competitive employment it is in our favor to wait for the right time and place to disclose our disability in a way that makes it known we will be doing things differently but we can and will still be committed to the opportunity just as the rest of the people who interview. I hope this helps. Go Devils! Bryan Duarte ASU Software Engineering QwikEyes CEO > On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: > > You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, if you served on the board of the Association of blind students at any level, you could put that on your resume as part of your experience. > > This is if you were looking to disclose. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l wrote: >> >> My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it is an >> issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward for me to say >> Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I am legally blind. What >> i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and holding >> paperwork to my nose. >> >> If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just show up at >> the interview with your cane or dog. >> >> You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now don't >> hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then you add that >> under awards. >> >> Suzanne >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >>> Morning, Justin, >>> >>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what >>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be >>> forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest to >>> me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my >>> part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard this >>> blindness in a positive light. >>> Car >>> >>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>>> disclose >>>> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, >>>> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, >>>> if >>>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in >>>> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before >>>> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance >>>> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >>>> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >>>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can >>>> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >>>> is >>>> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an >>>> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then >>>> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Justin. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>>> via >>>> nabs-l >>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application >>>> process? >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >>>> internships and/or jobs? >>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it >>>> once, but I had an easy way. >>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making >>>> an >>>> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a >>>> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about >>>> when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one >>>> to >>>> complete one of my minor requirements. >>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >>>> that >>>> I am blind. >>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves >>>> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were >>>> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>> Thank you in advance. >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.edu From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 17:17:19 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:17:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Miso and all, I'm in a position where my field helps people who have disabilities. I would be very selective in using this, but if I'm applying to work in a school's special needs program I might say, "As someone who is disabled I believe I will have a greater sense of empathy and knowledge of disability issues than someone who does not have a disability." That could also lead into talk about role modeling and the student feeling more comfortable discussing disability issues with me than their non-disabled parents, teachers, friends, etc. However, if I'm applying for a job in someplace like a hospital setting, where disability is not the main thing, I would say the same but say, "As I have been hospitalized as a child to undergo surgeries and other treatments," instead of the disability bit. I currently hold two jobs and am waiting to hear back from another where blindness was a factor in my hiring process. One sounds similar to yours in that it is an accessibility tester for my school, and the other is at a center for the blind in my hometown where I work the phones at the front desk. I have 2 separate resumes to use when applying for one or the other kind of job; for jobs that don't want to hear about blindness stuff I've got a very clean-cut resume, but for jobs like this and the disability services office one I interviewed for I have one that mentions the access technology I can use, the braille codes I know, my experience working with others who have disabilities, etc. You also have to be careful on resumes with the scholarships; my "clean" one doesn't mention the word blind at all, except for that I volunteered at one place for the blind for a significant time under music therapists and the center where I was a receptionist. The other one mentions it far more, including my NFB scholarships at the national and state level, the camp I counsel for, etc. Also on the clean copy I use "visually impaired" when describing positions that have me working with blind people. Not that I'm a fan of doing that in normal life, but in my field it is the politically correct terminology and it isn't as jarring as saying blind. On 7/24/15, Bryan Duarte via nabs-l wrote: > I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was recently > contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with them in the > Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume in hand already and > I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make several references to my > research focus areas, student organizations I am apart of, and my student > clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my resume give insight to my focus > on the blind and low vision community. I also make reference to the > different tools I use and am proficient in including the screen readers I > use and Braille display. > > Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about an > hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview process would > operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to share my screen and > google docs to share with an engineer so they could watch me write code > collaboratively. This part was ok I still did not disclose my blindness. > Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the > process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a series > of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would be expected > to write code once again, but this time it would be writing it on a white > board. For software engineers this is a common way of laying out code when > working on teams so I was familiar with the possibility this would be asked > of me. Now I had a decision to make here. I could disclose my blindness and > give them the opportunity to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I > could show up to the interview concealing my disability and potentially set > myself up for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was > going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this > opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." > I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and google > docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white boarding code. > My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice my > references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive technology, > he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a software engineer who > has no problem developing software with the best of them but I do it as a > blind person. As you might guess he was able to read between the lines when > he reviewed my resume and already had a pretty good idea but as a good > recruiter he was not going to ask the question unless I first brought it up. > > > To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers this > August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews they are > well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and more than > willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we as people with a > disability in a world that is becoming more and more aware of our presents > and drive for equal and competitive employment it is in our favor to wait > for the right time and place to disclose our disability in a way that makes > it known we will be doing things differently but we can and will still be > committed to the opportunity just as the rest of the people who interview. I > hope this helps. > > Go Devils! > > Bryan Duarte > ASU Software Engineering > QwikEyes CEO > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, if you >> served on the board of the Association of blind students at any level, you >> could put that on your resume as part of your experience. >> >> This is if you were looking to disclose. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it is >>> an >>> issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward for me to >>> say >>> Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I am legally blind. >>> What >>> i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and >>> holding >>> paperwork to my nose. >>> >>> If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just show up >>> at >>> the interview with your cane or dog. >>> >>> You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now don't >>> hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then you add >>> that >>> under awards. >>> >>> Suzanne >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Morning, Justin, >>>> >>>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a >>>> what >>>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to >>>> be >>>> forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest >>>> to >>>> me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my >>>> part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard >>>> this >>>> blindness in a positive light. >>>> Car >>>> >>>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>>>> disclose >>>>> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for >>>>> sure, >>>>> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. >>>>> So, >>>>> if >>>>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, >>>>> in >>>>> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer >>>>> before >>>>> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better >>>>> chance >>>>> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to >>>>> better >>>>> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you >>>>> are >>>>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you >>>>> can >>>>> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think >>>>> that >>>>> is >>>>> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of >>>>> an >>>>> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, >>>>> then >>>>> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. >>>>> I >>>>> hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Justin. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>>>> via >>>>> nabs-l >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >>>>> application >>>>> process? >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >>>>> internships and/or jobs? >>>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done >>>>> it >>>>> once, but I had an easy way. >>>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for >>>>> making >>>>> an >>>>> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was >>>>> a >>>>> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think >>>>> about >>>>> when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting >>>>> one >>>>> to >>>>> complete one of my minor requirements. >>>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >>>>> that >>>>> I am blind. >>>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >>>>> serves >>>>> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you >>>>> were >>>>> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would >>>>> not? >>>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>>> Thank you in advance. >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 17:23:39 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:23:39 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including attachments. In-Reply-To: <000301d0c5ca$73fb2950$5bf17bf0$@gmail.com> References: <000301d0c5ca$73fb2950$5bf17bf0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Chris, I have used surveymonkey to take surveys, but it isn't accessible for setting them up. The other thing is that it doesn't have the capability to allow users to upload attachments requested by the person managing the form. Basically I need to have a form with the capability of collecting attachments so I can gather information for databases. On 7/24/15, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: > Hi Kaiti: > > I'm not sure if I'm fully understanding the question, but have you tried > surveymonkey.com? > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton > via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:23 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Kaiti Shelton > Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including > attachments. > > Hi, all, > > I'm wondering if such a tool exists; I'm trying to find a pre-designed site > that has tools for filling out information as in a form, along with spots > for people to upload attachments. If a tool exists that would allow > survey-takers, candidates, or insert other terminology for subjects here to > fill out information, upload stuff, and for that stuff to be collected and > emails sent to the recipient of the data and to the people who submit to > confirm their entries, that would be ideal. > > I'm not sure where to even start with searching on my own as I don't know > what you would even call such sites, but it would be wonderful if anyone > knows of any. It would be especially helpful if there was a mode in set up > where the recipient of the data could modify what the questions with edit > boxes ask, the text content, and what the fields for documents require. > > I'm by no means a tech whiz and don't have any coding experience, nor do > the > people who would be working on this potential project with me. > I am also interested in it for personal reasons as I could such a resource, > if it exists, in my student division quite a bit instead of more primitive > ways of taking information from members. At this point I'm aware of Google > Forms but don't think that allows for document uploads. That's the extent > of what I know so far. > > Any knowledge on this topic would be wonderful. Thanks in advance for any > responses. > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The > National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 17:30:04 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:30:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including attachments. In-Reply-To: References: <000301d0c5ca$73fb2950$5bf17bf0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: If this is more helpful than my explanation (I suck at explaining things sometimes), here are a few examples of what I would like to do. Accept applications with supporting documentation in an attachment. Have people take a survey, then upload supporting documentation. Give members of a group the ability to privately submit feedback information and allow for them to submit an attachment of notes, suggestions, etc if they like. Thanks, On 7/24/15, Kaiti Shelton wrote: > Hi, Chris, > > I have used surveymonkey to take surveys, but it isn't accessible for > setting them up. The other thing is that it doesn't have the > capability to allow users to upload attachments requested by the > person managing the form. > > Basically I need to have a form with the capability of collecting > attachments so I can gather information for databases. > > On 7/24/15, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi Kaiti: >> >> I'm not sure if I'm fully understanding the question, but have you tried >> surveymonkey.com? >> >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti >> Shelton >> via nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:23 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Kaiti Shelton >> Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including >> attachments. >> >> Hi, all, >> >> I'm wondering if such a tool exists; I'm trying to find a pre-designed >> site >> that has tools for filling out information as in a form, along with spots >> for people to upload attachments. If a tool exists that would allow >> survey-takers, candidates, or insert other terminology for subjects here >> to >> fill out information, upload stuff, and for that stuff to be collected >> and >> emails sent to the recipient of the data and to the people who submit to >> confirm their entries, that would be ideal. >> >> I'm not sure where to even start with searching on my own as I don't know >> what you would even call such sites, but it would be wonderful if anyone >> knows of any. It would be especially helpful if there was a mode in set >> up >> where the recipient of the data could modify what the questions with edit >> boxes ask, the text content, and what the fields for documents require. >> >> I'm by no means a tech whiz and don't have any coding experience, nor do >> the >> people who would be working on this potential project with me. >> I am also interested in it for personal reasons as I could such a >> resource, >> if it exists, in my student division quite a bit instead of more >> primitive >> ways of taking information from members. At this point I'm aware of >> Google >> Forms but don't think that allows for document uploads. That's the >> extent >> of what I know so far. >> >> Any knowledge on this topic would be wonderful. Thanks in advance for >> any >> responses. >> >> -- >> Kaiti Shelton >> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The >> National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 >> >> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Fri Jul 24 17:41:33 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:41:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8167BB21-9A28-443A-A933-C10E35FBCFC8@jd16.law.harvard.edu> I think there are good arguments on both sides. My thoughts on the subject are that my resume is impressive enough and my experiences are good enough that folks should know it isn't an issue. Besides all that, I spend a heck of a lot time doing the work of the federation so I might as well get some credit and put it down under experiences. I also let the interviewer know right away once I get there that I may not be making perfect eye contact due to my blindness. Y'a know, just in case treasurer of National Association of Blind Students and carrying a cane isn't enough to alert them. That allows them to have a free pass to ask any questions they may want to ask since you've broached the subject. I just think that not discussing it isn't an option because so few people understand blindness. Also, I don't want to work at a place that feels like it has to walk on egg shales with me or that isn't looking to make sure I'm a good fit. All of that said, 80-90% of the interview and pre interview communication should be about the job and why you are qualified and what each of you is looking for in the other. Blindness isn't the characteristic that defines me but it is the characteristic that employers notice first about me. The sooner I can control that narrative, the better off the interview will be. Again, these are my opinions and everyone has their own approach. Best regards Derek Manners Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2015, at 3:11 AM, Miso Kwak via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, > What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? > I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. > My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. > I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. > So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. > Would you do it on case by case basis? > For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? > I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 18:15:39 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:15:39 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> Message-ID: <001d01d0c63c$bf113de0$3d33b9a0$@gmail.com> The correct term is someone who has a disability. You wouldn't say someone who is disabled. If you do that with true proes in the field, they will get you for that. The theory is that a disability does not make you disabled. Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:17 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kaiti Shelton Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? Hi, Miso and all, I'm in a position where my field helps people who have disabilities. I would be very selective in using this, but if I'm applying to work in a school's special needs program I might say, "As someone who is disabled I believe I will have a greater sense of empathy and knowledge of disability issues than someone who does not have a disability." That could also lead into talk about role modeling and the student feeling more comfortable discussing disability issues with me than their non-disabled parents, teachers, friends, etc. However, if I'm applying for a job in someplace like a hospital setting, where disability is not the main thing, I would say the same but say, "As I have been hospitalized as a child to undergo surgeries and other treatments," instead of the disability bit. I currently hold two jobs and am waiting to hear back from another where blindness was a factor in my hiring process. One sounds similar to yours in that it is an accessibility tester for my school, and the other is at a center for the blind in my hometown where I work the phones at the front desk. I have 2 separate resumes to use when applying for one or the other kind of job; for jobs that don't want to hear about blindness stuff I've got a very clean-cut resume, but for jobs like this and the disability services office one I interviewed for I have one that mentions the access technology I can use, the braille codes I know, my experience working with others who have disabilities, etc. You also have to be careful on resumes with the scholarships; my "clean" one doesn't mention the word blind at all, except for that I volunteered at one place for the blind for a significant time under music therapists and the center where I was a receptionist. The other one mentions it far more, including my NFB scholarships at the national and state level, the camp I counsel for, etc. Also on the clean copy I use "visually impaired" when describing positions that have me working with blind people. Not that I'm a fan of doing that in normal life, but in my field it is the politically correct terminology and it isn't as jarring as saying blind. On 7/24/15, Bryan Duarte via nabs-l wrote: > I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was > recently contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with > them in the Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume > in hand already and I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make > several references to my research focus areas, student organizations I > am apart of, and my student clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my > resume give insight to my focus on the blind and low vision community. > I also make reference to the different tools I use and am proficient > in including the screen readers I use and Braille display. > > Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about > an hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview > process would operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to > share my screen and google docs to share with an engineer so they > could watch me write code collaboratively. This part was ok I still did not disclose my blindness. > Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the > process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a > series of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would > be expected to write code once again, but this time it would be > writing it on a white board. For software engineers this is a common > way of laying out code when working on teams so I was familiar with > the possibility this would be asked of me. Now I had a decision to > make here. I could disclose my blindness and give them the opportunity > to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I could show up to > the interview concealing my disability and potentially set myself up > for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was > going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." > I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and > google docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white boarding code. > My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice > my references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive > technology, he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a > software engineer who has no problem developing software with the best > of them but I do it as a blind person. As you might guess he was able > to read between the lines when he reviewed my resume and already had a > pretty good idea but as a good recruiter he was not going to ask the question unless I first brought it up. > > > To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers > this August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews > they are well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and > more than willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we > as people with a disability in a world that is becoming more and more > aware of our presents and drive for equal and competitive employment > it is in our favor to wait for the right time and place to disclose > our disability in a way that makes it known we will be doing things > differently but we can and will still be committed to the opportunity > just as the rest of the people who interview. I hope this helps. > > Go Devils! > > Bryan Duarte > ASU Software Engineering > QwikEyes CEO > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l >> >> wrote: >> >> You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, >> if you served on the board of the Association of blind students at >> any level, you could put that on your resume as part of your experience. >> >> This is if you were looking to disclose. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it >>> is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward >>> for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I >>> am legally blind. >>> What >>> i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and >>> holding paperwork to my nose. >>> >>> If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just >>> show up at the interview with your cane or dog. >>> >>> You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now >>> don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then >>> you add that under awards. >>> >>> Suzanne >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Morning, Justin, >>>> >>>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a >>>> what >>>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to >>>> be >>>> forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little >>>> dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal >>>> characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom >>>> mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >>>> Car >>>> >>>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you >>>>> to disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the >>>>> interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability >>>>> was obvious upon sight. >>>>> So, >>>>> if >>>>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a >>>>> disability, in other words, your disability is not hidden, telling >>>>> the interviewer before you arrive lessens the shock value, and at >>>>> least gives you a better chance of having an honest interview. It >>>>> also gives you the ability to better access whether or not the >>>>> place in question is a good fit for you; you are interviewing them >>>>> as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can just go >>>>> to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >>>>> is best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in >>>>> need of an accommodation during the interview application or >>>>> interview process, then you have to disclose in order to receive >>>>> the appropriate accommodation. >>>>> I >>>>> hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Justin. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >>>>> Kwak via nabs-l >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >>>>> application process? >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when >>>>> applying to internships and/or jobs? >>>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have >>>>> done it once, but I had an easy way. >>>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for >>>>> making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited >>>>> because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did >>>>> not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of >>>>> getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. >>>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle >>>>> disclosing that I am blind. >>>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >>>>> serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, >>>>> whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby >>>>> sitting job, you would not? >>>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>>> Thank you in advance. >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.william >>>>> s2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40com >>>>> cast.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu. >>>> edu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gma >>> il.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.ed >> u > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104% > 40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 18:17:06 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:17:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> Message-ID: <002601d0c63c$f2df1cf0$d89d56d0$@gmail.com> You handled that perfectly. Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Duarte via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:49 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Bryan Duarte Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was recently contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with them in the Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume in hand already and I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make several references to my research focus areas, student organizations I am apart of, and my student clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my resume give insight to my focus on the blind and low vision community. I also make reference to the different tools I use and am proficient in including the screen readers I use and Braille display. Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about an hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview process would operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to share my screen and google docs to share with an engineer so they could watch me write code collaboratively. This part was ok I still did not disclose my blindness. Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a series of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would be expected to write code once again, but this time it would be writing it on a white board. For software engineers this is a common way of laying out code when working on teams so I was familiar with the possibility this would be asked of me. Now I had a decision to make here. I could disclose my blindness and give them the opportunity to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I could show up to the interview concealing my disability and potentially set myself up for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and google docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white boarding code. My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice my references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive technology, he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a software engineer who has no problem developing software with the best of them but I do it as a blind person. As you might guess he was able to read between the lines when he reviewed my resume and already had a pretty good idea but as a good recruiter he was not going to ask the question unless I first brought it up. To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers this August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews they are well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and more than willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we as people with a disability in a world that is becoming more and more aware of our presents and drive for equal and competitive employment it is in our favor to wait for the right time and place to disclose our disability in a way that makes it known we will be doing things differently but we can and will still be committed to the opportunity just as the rest of the people who interview. I hope this helps. Go Devils! Bryan Duarte ASU Software Engineering QwikEyes CEO > On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: > > You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, if you served on the board of the Association of blind students at any level, you could put that on your resume as part of your experience. > > This is if you were looking to disclose. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l wrote: >> >> My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it >> is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward >> for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I am >> legally blind. What i did do was use my cane so they would know why I >> was squinting and holding paperwork to my nose. >> >> If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just show >> up at the interview with your cane or dog. >> >> You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now >> don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then >> you add that under awards. >> >> Suzanne >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >>> Morning, Justin, >>> >>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what >>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be >>> forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little >>> dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal >>> characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom >>> mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >>> Car >>> >>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>>> disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the >>>> interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was >>>> obvious upon sight. So, if you have a cane, dog, or something to >>>> indicate you have a disability, in other words, your disability is >>>> not hidden, telling the interviewer before you arrive lessens the >>>> shock value, and at least gives you a better chance of having an >>>> honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better access >>>> whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >>>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, >>>> you can just go to the interview not having told them anything if >>>> you think that is best, you are not required to disclose at all. >>>> If you are in need of an accommodation during the interview >>>> application or interview process, then you have to disclose in >>>> order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Justin. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >>>> Kwak via nabs-l >>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >>>> application process? >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying >>>> to internships and/or jobs? >>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have >>>> done it once, but I had an easy way. >>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for >>>> making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited >>>> because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did >>>> not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of >>>> getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. >>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle >>>> disclosing that I am blind. >>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >>>> serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, >>>> whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>> Thank you in advance. >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.edu _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From bjduarte at asu.edu Fri Jul 24 18:29:21 2015 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:29:21 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <002601d0c63c$f2df1cf0$d89d56d0$@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> <002601d0c63c$f2df1cf0$d89d56d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Justin, and Derek you are spot on with your statement it is all about what you can do for them and they can do for you. I feel like if I do not let them know what I have to offer them, and what I know I will have difficulties doing up front I am setting us both up for failure. The way I see it, I am blind and as such I have a different way of doing things from my peers but that does not mean I cannot preform the same if not better than them. In my opinion if they are not ok with me as I am then they are not a good fit for me. I have one resume as Derek mentioned and that resume is packed full of my service in the community, scholarships, deans list, and past experiences. If they are not hiring me for that then I will take my resume, experiences, and blindness to the next employers who will have the opportunity to capitalize on my skills even though I am blind. I have already disclosed to Google and Apple that A. I am interviewing with each other company, B. what my area of expertise is, C. that I am blind and do not have any problem preforming for them just as I do according to my resume, but will require a few little tweaks to how they typically conduct business interviews. Both were excited to tell me they were just fine with that and more than willing to accommodate in whatever way I felt would be necessary. Go Devils! Bryan Duarte ASU Software Engineering QwikEyes CEO > On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:17 AM, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: > > You handled that perfectly. > Justin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Duarte > via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:49 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Bryan Duarte > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship > application process? > > I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was recently > contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with them in the > Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume in hand already and > I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make several references to my > research focus areas, student organizations I am apart of, and my student > clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my resume give insight to my focus > on the blind and low vision community. I also make reference to the > different tools I use and am proficient in including the screen readers I > use and Braille display. > > Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about an > hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview process would > operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to share my screen and > google docs to share with an engineer so they could watch me write code > collaboratively. This part was ok I still did not disclose my blindness. > Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the > process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a series > of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would be expected > to write code once again, but this time it would be writing it on a white > board. For software engineers this is a common way of laying out code when > working on teams so I was familiar with the possibility this would be asked > of me. Now I had a decision to make here. I could disclose my blindness and > give them the opportunity to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I > could show up to the interview concealing my disability and potentially set > myself up for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was > going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this > opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." > I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and google > docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white boarding code. > My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice my > references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive technology, > he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a software engineer who > has no problem developing software with the best of them but I do it as a > blind person. As you might guess he was able to read between the lines when > he reviewed my resume and already had a pretty good idea but as a good > recruiter he was not going to ask the question unless I first brought it up. > > > To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers this > August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews they are > well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and more than > willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we as people with a > disability in a world that is becoming more and more aware of our presents > and drive for equal and competitive employment it is in our favor to wait > for the right time and place to disclose our disability in a way that makes > it known we will be doing things differently but we can and will still be > committed to the opportunity just as the rest of the people who interview. I > hope this helps. > > Go Devils! > > Bryan Duarte > ASU Software Engineering > QwikEyes CEO > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l > wrote: >> >> You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, if you > served on the board of the Association of blind students at any level, you > could put that on your resume as part of your experience. >> >> This is if you were looking to disclose. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l > wrote: >>> >>> My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it >>> is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward >>> for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I am >>> legally blind. What i did do was use my cane so they would know why I >>> was squinting and holding paperwork to my nose. >>> >>> If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just show >>> up at the interview with your cane or dog. >>> >>> You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now >>> don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then >>> you add that under awards. >>> >>> Suzanne >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Morning, Justin, >>>> >>>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what >>>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to > be >>>> forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little >>>> dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal >>>> characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom >>>> mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >>>> Car >>>> >>>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>>>> disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the >>>>> interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was >>>>> obvious upon sight. So, if you have a cane, dog, or something to >>>>> indicate you have a disability, in other words, your disability is >>>>> not hidden, telling the interviewer before you arrive lessens the >>>>> shock value, and at least gives you a better chance of having an >>>>> honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better access >>>>> whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >>>>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, >>>>> you can just go to the interview not having told them anything if >>>>> you think that is best, you are not required to disclose at all. >>>>> If you are in need of an accommodation during the interview >>>>> application or interview process, then you have to disclose in >>>>> order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Justin. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >>>>> Kwak via nabs-l >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >>>>> application process? >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying >>>>> to internships and/or jobs? >>>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have >>>>> done it once, but I had an easy way. >>>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for >>>>> making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited >>>>> because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did >>>>> not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of >>>>> getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. >>>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle >>>>> disclosing that I am blind. >>>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >>>>> serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, >>>>> whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby > sitting job, you would not? >>>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>>> Thank you in advance. >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> >>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.edu From blackbyrdfly at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 18:44:57 2015 From: blackbyrdfly at gmail.com (Jamie Principato) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:44:57 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <55b2320a.c4668c0a.4b75d.2172SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <55b2320a.c4668c0a.4b75d.2172SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <9D6E9076-9C85-4240-9D50-EA479DDEE860@gmail.com> Regarding blindness as a mere inconvenience or physical characteristic, I wouldn't write that I have brown hair on a job application. It just wouldn't be relevant. No one hiring me should care. So if my blindness is likewise not relevant to the hiring process or the job, it doesn't seem any more dishonest to not disclose that than it is to not disclose hair color. -Jamie Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:38 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote: > > Morning, Justin, > > If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. > Car >> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to disclose >> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, >> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, if >> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in >> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before >> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance >> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can >> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that is >> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an >> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then >> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I >> hope this helps. >> >> Justin. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via >> nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application >> process? >> >> Hello everyone, >> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >> internships and/or jobs? >> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it >> once, but I had an easy way. >> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an >> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a >> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about >> when and how to disclose my blindness. >> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to >> complete one of my minor requirements. >> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that >> I am blind. >> Would you do it on case by case basis? >> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves >> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were >> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >> Thank you in advance. >> Miso Kwak >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 18:57:09 2015 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:57:09 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] braillenote question Message-ID: <55b28a85.6222460a.e39a3.0492@mx.google.com> Hi All, I am having an issue with the Braille-Note and was wondering if anyone else also had it or found a work-around. On certain sites, after I finish browsing, I get an "exception command" message, so that if I want to go online again I would first have to reset. Two sites I visit frequently, Goodreads and Xeno-Canto (a site to download free bird sounds) have this issue. Does anyone know what can be done about it? (I'm assuming the problem is with the Braille-Note, not with the site). By the way, I have a 32-35ll Apex running the latest version of Keysoft. Thanks, Vejas From blindstein at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 19:02:41 2015 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:02:41 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <9D6E9076-9C85-4240-9D50-EA479DDEE860@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <55b2320a.c4668c0a.4b75d.2172SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <9D6E9076-9C85-4240-9D50-EA479DDEE860@gmail.com> Message-ID: <29EFCA01-C302-43BA-B886-26430A47F5E1@gmail.com> But they were definitely care if you were the president of the national Association of brown haired students. > On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jamie Principato via nabs-l wrote: > > Regarding blindness as a mere inconvenience or physical characteristic, I wouldn't write that I have brown hair on a job application. It just wouldn't be relevant. No one hiring me should care. So if my blindness is likewise not relevant to the hiring process or the job, it doesn't seem any more dishonest to not disclose that than it is to not disclose hair color. > > -Jamie > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:38 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote: >> >> Morning, Justin, >> >> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >> Car >>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to disclose >>> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, >>> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, if >>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in >>> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before >>> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance >>> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >>> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can >>> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that is >>> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an >>> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then >>> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> Justin. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via >>> nabs-l >>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application >>> process? >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >>> internships and/or jobs? >>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it >>> once, but I had an easy way. >>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an >>> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a >>> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about >>> when and how to disclose my blindness. >>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to >>> complete one of my minor requirements. >>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that >>> I am blind. >>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves >>> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were >>> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>> Thank you in advance. >>> Miso Kwak >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 19:12:15 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:12:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <29EFCA01-C302-43BA-B886-26430A47F5E1@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <55b2320a.c4668c0a.4b75d.2172SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <9D6E9076-9C85-4240-9D50-EA479DDEE860@gmail.com> <29EFCA01-C302-43BA-B886-26430A47F5E1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Justin and all, I think the person first language thing is also subjective, but I simultaneously asked a question in the human services list and answered this thread so it's something I'm exploring myself. My thought is that I'm not my own client. Of course with a client I would say, "A child with X," or "A patient with condition Y," but for me the only reason I even described myself as a disabled person is because I don't want to say blind upfront. If I had it my way I could call myself a blind person in front of other professionals because that's how I self-identify. I also think that's one of the shortcomings of the human services fields. Too many human services professionals who don't have disabilities get caught up in symantics and feel like to identify someone by their disability is offensive. If I, or any of us, got angry or offended every time we were called the blind guy/girl/chick/kid/person we'd never get anywhere. I guess this is where the work of the Federation and my desired employment collide, but as I'm not my own client or anyone else's I don't see a problem with describing myself outside of person first language. If they have an issue with that as an employer, when I will demonstrate across other sections of my resume which talk about the populations I've worked with and in my interview when I talk profesionally, then they are focusing on a very small part of me that I see as important to my identity, and missing out on everything that part of me can do for their business and clients. On 7/24/15, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: > But they were definitely care if you were the president of the national > Association of brown haired students. > > > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jamie Principato via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Regarding blindness as a mere inconvenience or physical characteristic, I >> wouldn't write that I have brown hair on a job application. It just >> wouldn't be relevant. No one hiring me should care. So if my blindness is >> likewise not relevant to the hiring process or the job, it doesn't seem >> any more dishonest to not disclose that than it is to not disclose hair >> color. >> >> -Jamie >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:38 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Morning, Justin, >>> >>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what >>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to >>> be forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little >>> dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal >>> characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix >>> with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >>> Car >>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>>> disclose >>>> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for >>>> sure, >>>> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, >>>> if >>>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, >>>> in >>>> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer >>>> before >>>> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better >>>> chance >>>> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >>>> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you >>>> are >>>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you >>>> can >>>> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >>>> is >>>> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of >>>> an >>>> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, >>>> then >>>> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. >>>> I >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Justin. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>>> via >>>> nabs-l >>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >>>> application >>>> process? >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >>>> internships and/or jobs? >>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done >>>> it >>>> once, but I had an easy way. >>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making >>>> an >>>> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was >>>> a >>>> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think >>>> about >>>> when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting >>>> one to >>>> complete one of my minor requirements. >>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >>>> that >>>> I am blind. >>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >>>> serves >>>> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you >>>> were >>>> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would >>>> not? >>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>> Thank you in advance. >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From lucysirianni at earthlink.net Fri Jul 24 19:18:41 2015 From: lucysirianni at earthlink.net (Lucy Sirianni) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:18:41 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] braillenote question Message-ID: Hi Vejas, This happens frequently to me as well, and from what I understand from the BrailleNote users list and others with whom I've discussed the issue, there is no work-around at this time. I hope that HumanWare will prioritize solving this frustrating issue in future versions of KeySoft, and in the meantime, if anyone does know of a solution, I would love to know. Thanks! Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via nabs-l References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <55b2320a.c4668c0a.4b75d.2172SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <9D6E9076-9C85-4240-9D50-EA479DDEE860@gmail.com> <29EFCA01-C302-43BA-B886-26430A47F5E1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3078FFE2-20AF-4E1A-9E43-4D5FF6E338C4@asu.edu> Kaiti, I agree with you and it is really just a personal preference as I a alluded to in my first message. When it comes down to it you have to be the captain of navigating to your own destiny. If you feel it is best to conceal your blindness then that is what is best for you. If disclosing it up front so the employer can interview you as you would be working for them, as a man or woman who does things a little differently due to their blindness, then that is what you should do. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to this question it is more of a philosophy in which we all develop our own theory that works for our individual circumstance. I chose to disclose my blindness because I knew I would need accommodations and I wanted to have them see me do my best work, and to do that I needed them to know about me completely. I have always thought about it like this... I am not fooling anyone that I am blind regardless if I tell them or not. If I am sitting in an interview and they can see that I am blind but do not tell them what I need or how I do things, I am only hurting myself because they know it, I know it but they do not understand it and I do. One big philosophy we know and should apply from the NFB is that we need to be teachers of blindness. They do not know that we are awesome, they don't know we can compete with the best of the best and come out on top 10 out of 10 times, they don't know that our dog is our dog and not there for their viewing and petting pleasure, but we do and if we do not tell them we are awesome and can compete how will they know??? Justin are you saying google does not want me because I have brown hair??? Dang... Go Devils! Bryan Duarte ASU Software Engineering QwikEyes CEO > On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > Justin and all, > > I think the person first language thing is also subjective, but I > simultaneously asked a question in the human services list and > answered this thread so it's something I'm exploring myself. > > My thought is that I'm not my own client. Of course with a client I > would say, "A child with X," or "A patient with condition Y," but for > me the only reason I even described myself as a disabled person is > because I don't want to say blind upfront. If I had it my way I could > call myself a blind person in front of other professionals because > that's how I self-identify. > > I also think that's one of the shortcomings of the human services > fields. Too many human services professionals who don't have > disabilities get caught up in symantics and feel like to identify > someone by their disability is offensive. If I, or any of us, got > angry or offended every time we were called the blind > guy/girl/chick/kid/person we'd never get anywhere. > > I guess this is where the work of the Federation and my desired > employment collide, but as I'm not my own client or anyone else's I > don't see a problem with describing myself outside of person first > language. If they have an issue with that as an employer, when I will > demonstrate across other sections of my resume which talk about the > populations I've worked with and in my interview when I talk > professionally, then they are focusing on a very small part of me that > I see as important to my identity, and missing out on everything that > part of me can do for their business and clients. > > On 7/24/15, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: >> But they were definitely care if you were the president of the national >> Association of brown haired students. >> >> >> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jamie Principato via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Regarding blindness as a mere inconvenience or physical characteristic, I >>> wouldn't write that I have brown hair on a job application. It just >>> wouldn't be relevant. No one hiring me should care. So if my blindness is >>> likewise not relevant to the hiring process or the job, it doesn't seem >>> any more dishonest to not disclose that than it is to not disclose hair >>> color. >>> >>> -Jamie >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:38 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Morning, Justin, >>>> >>>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what >>>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to >>>> be forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little >>>> dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal >>>> characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix >>>> with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >>>> Car >>>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>>>> disclose >>>>> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for >>>>> sure, >>>>> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, >>>>> if >>>>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, >>>>> in >>>>> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer >>>>> before >>>>> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better >>>>> chance >>>>> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >>>>> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you >>>>> are >>>>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you >>>>> can >>>>> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >>>>> is >>>>> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of >>>>> an >>>>> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, >>>>> then >>>>> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. >>>>> I >>>>> hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Justin. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>>>> via >>>>> nabs-l >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >>>>> application >>>>> process? >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >>>>> internships and/or jobs? >>>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done >>>>> it >>>>> once, but I had an easy way. >>>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making >>>>> an >>>>> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was >>>>> a >>>>> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think >>>>> about >>>>> when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting >>>>> one to >>>>> complete one of my minor requirements. >>>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >>>>> that >>>>> I am blind. >>>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >>>>> serves >>>>> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you >>>>> were >>>>> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would >>>>> not? >>>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>>> Thank you in advance. >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.edu From blindstein at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 20:59:03 2015 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:59:03 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <55b2320a.c4668c0a.4b75d.2172SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <9D6E9076-9C85-4240-9D50-EA479DDEE860@gmail.com> <29EFCA01-C302-43BA-B886-26430A47F5E1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Plus there is also the fact that person first language deliberately attempts to dissociate the disability from the person, and thus solidifies the assumption that disability is inherently bad. Emily Ladau of the blog "words I wheel by," explains this very well. > On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > Justin and all, > > I think the person first language thing is also subjective, but I > simultaneously asked a question in the human services list and > answered this thread so it's something I'm exploring myself. > > My thought is that I'm not my own client. Of course with a client I > would say, "A child with X," or "A patient with condition Y," but for > me the only reason I even described myself as a disabled person is > because I don't want to say blind upfront. If I had it my way I could > call myself a blind person in front of other professionals because > that's how I self-identify. > > I also think that's one of the shortcomings of the human services > fields. Too many human services professionals who don't have > disabilities get caught up in symantics and feel like to identify > someone by their disability is offensive. If I, or any of us, got > angry or offended every time we were called the blind > guy/girl/chick/kid/person we'd never get anywhere. > > I guess this is where the work of the Federation and my desired > employment collide, but as I'm not my own client or anyone else's I > don't see a problem with describing myself outside of person first > language. If they have an issue with that as an employer, when I will > demonstrate across other sections of my resume which talk about the > populations I've worked with and in my interview when I talk > profesionally, then they are focusing on a very small part of me that > I see as important to my identity, and missing out on everything that > part of me can do for their business and clients. > >> On 7/24/15, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: >> But they were definitely care if you were the president of the national >> Association of brown haired students. >> >> >> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jamie Principato via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Regarding blindness as a mere inconvenience or physical characteristic, I >>> wouldn't write that I have brown hair on a job application. It just >>> wouldn't be relevant. No one hiring me should care. So if my blindness is >>> likewise not relevant to the hiring process or the job, it doesn't seem >>> any more dishonest to not disclose that than it is to not disclose hair >>> color. >>> >>> -Jamie >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:38 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Morning, Justin, >>>> >>>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what >>>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to >>>> be forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little >>>> dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal >>>> characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix >>>> with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >>>> Car >>>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >>>>> disclose >>>>> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for >>>>> sure, >>>>> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, >>>>> if >>>>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, >>>>> in >>>>> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer >>>>> before >>>>> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better >>>>> chance >>>>> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >>>>> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you >>>>> are >>>>> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you >>>>> can >>>>> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >>>>> is >>>>> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of >>>>> an >>>>> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, >>>>> then >>>>> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. >>>>> I >>>>> hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Justin. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>>>> via >>>>> nabs-l >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >>>>> application >>>>> process? >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >>>>> internships and/or jobs? >>>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done >>>>> it >>>>> once, but I had an easy way. >>>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making >>>>> an >>>>> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was >>>>> a >>>>> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think >>>>> about >>>>> when and how to disclose my blindness. >>>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting >>>>> one to >>>>> complete one of my minor requirements. >>>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >>>>> that >>>>> I am blind. >>>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? >>>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >>>>> serves >>>>> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you >>>>> were >>>>> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would >>>>> not? >>>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >>>>> Thank you in advance. >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com From jsoro620 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 21:40:30 2015 From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:40:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submitting/collecting data including attachments. Message-ID: <017301d0c659$5df06910$19d13b30$@gmail.com> Kaiti, I can build you a Drupal site that does everything you need. I've been working with Darian and his division and launching their site, and though they have not asked for this feature, I have done it for other clients. I'm not aware of another form provider that does similar things, though I am a little surprised that Google Forms does not allow the capacity to upload documents. One would think they would have incorporated that with Google Drive. Anyway, let me know if I can be of help. Joe -- Musings of a Work in Progress: www.JoeOrozco.com/ Twitter: @ScribblingJoe -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:30 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kaiti Shelton Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including attachments. If this is more helpful than my explanation (I suck at explaining things sometimes), here are a few examples of what I would like to do. Accept applications with supporting documentation in an attachment. Have people take a survey, then upload supporting documentation. Give members of a group the ability to privately submit feedback information and allow for them to submit an attachment of notes, suggestions, etc if they like. Thanks, On 7/24/15, Kaiti Shelton wrote: > Hi, Chris, > > I have used surveymonkey to take surveys, but it isn't accessible for > setting them up. The other thing is that it doesn't have the > capability to allow users to upload attachments requested by the > person managing the form. > > Basically I need to have a form with the capability of collecting > attachments so I can gather information for databases. > > On 7/24/15, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi Kaiti: >> >> I'm not sure if I'm fully understanding the question, but have you >> tried surveymonkey.com? >> >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti >> Shelton via nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:23 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Kaiti Shelton >> Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including >> attachments. >> >> Hi, all, >> >> I'm wondering if such a tool exists; I'm trying to find a >> pre-designed site that has tools for filling out information as in a >> form, along with spots for people to upload attachments. If a tool >> exists that would allow survey-takers, candidates, or insert other >> terminology for subjects here to fill out information, upload stuff, >> and for that stuff to be collected and emails sent to the recipient >> of the data and to the people who submit to confirm their entries, >> that would be ideal. >> >> I'm not sure where to even start with searching on my own as I don't >> know what you would even call such sites, but it would be wonderful >> if anyone knows of any. It would be especially helpful if there was >> a mode in set up where the recipient of the data could modify what >> the questions with edit boxes ask, the text content, and what the >> fields for documents require. >> >> I'm by no means a tech whiz and don't have any coding experience, nor >> do the people who would be working on this potential project with me. >> I am also interested in it for personal reasons as I could such a >> resource, if it exists, in my student division quite a bit instead of >> more primitive ways of taking information from members. At this >> point I'm aware of Google Forms but don't think that allows for >> document uploads. That's the extent of what I know so far. >> >> Any knowledge on this topic would be wonderful. Thanks in advance >> for any responses. >> >> -- >> Kaiti Shelton >> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, >> The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division >> 2015-2016 >> >> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104 >> %40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, > The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division > 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro620%40gmail.com From kmaent1 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 21:41:14 2015 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:41:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind onjob/internship application process? Message-ID: <55b2b127.a32e6b0a.ef7d.0f35@mx.google.com> This is, as others have said, debated. In the NFB we for the most part describe ourselves as "blind people" and as "the blind." There are very good reasons for that; other personal characteristics don't use person first language. For instance, I would describe myself as "a straight, white, male" not as "a person who is straight, white, and a male." Setting disability up as the exception to our normal ways of talking about ourselves seems like a very bad idea if we believe that blindness and other disabilities are characteristics like any others. They also play into the medical model of disability (we describe diseases in person first language e.g. a person with cancer, a person with heart disease etc.), so person first language with regard to disabilities plays into the public narrative that disabilities are diseases to be cured. . There is, of course, the issue of the etymology of "disability" as literally meaning a "non-ability", but I'm not convinced that describing ourselves as "impaired," which is the only alternative I've heard of, really has better connotations. Best, Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: justin williams via nabs-l wrote: I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was recently contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with them in the Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume in hand already and I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make several references to my research focus areas, student organizations I am apart of, and my student clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my resume give insight to my focus on the blind and low vision community. I also make reference to the different tools I use and am proficient in including the screen readers I use and Braille display. Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about an hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview process would operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to share my screen and google docs to share with an engineer so they could watch me write code collaboratively. This part was ok I still did not disclose my blindness. Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a series of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would be expected to write code once again, but this time it would be writing it on a white board. For software engineers this is a common way of laying out code when working on teams so I was familiar with the possibility this would be asked of me. Now I had a decision to make here. I could disclose my blindness and give them the opportunity to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I could show up to the interview concealing my disability and potentially set myself up for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and google docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white boarding code. My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice my references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive technology, he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a software engineer who has no problem developing software with the best of them but I do it as a blind person. As you might guess he was able to read between the lines when he reviewed my resume and already had a pretty good idea but as a good recruiter he was not going to ask the question unless I first brought it up. To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers this August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews they are well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and more than willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we as people with a disability in a world that is becoming more and more aware of our presents and drive for equal and competitive employment it is in our favor to wait for the right time and place to disclose our disability in a way that makes it known we will be doing things differently but we can and will still be committed to the opportunity just as the rest of the people who interview. I hope this helps. Go Devils! Bryan Duarte ASU Software Engineering QwikEyes CEO On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I am legally blind. What i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and holding paperwork to my nose. If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just show up at the interview with your cane or dog. You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then you add that under awards. Suzanne On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: Morning, Justin, If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a what do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to be forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. Car disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, if you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that is best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I hope this helps. Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Miso Kwak References: <55b2b127.a32e6b0a.ef7d.0f35@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <16D79AC0-57E0-4A6E-9E50-C08116D139FA@aol.com> Hi everyone, I noticed that this discussion has gone off a you're different directions, which have an interesting to read. Anyways, I appreciate everyone who has responded either on the list are off of the list. It has allowed me to think more about my choices at this point All the best, Miso Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l wrote: > > This is, as others have said, debated. In the NFB we for the most part describe ourselves as "blind people" and as "the blind." There are very good reasons for that; other personal characteristics don't use person first language. For instance, I would describe myself as "a straight, white, male" not as "a person who is straight, white, and a male." Setting disability up as the exception to our normal ways of talking about ourselves seems like a very bad idea if we believe that blindness and other disabilities are characteristics like any others. They also play into the medical model of disability (we describe diseases in person first language e.g. a person with cancer, a person with heart disease etc.), so person first language with regard to disabilities plays into the public narrative that disabilities are diseases to be cured. . There is, of course, the issue of the etymology of "disability" as literally meaning a "non-ability", but I'm not convinced that describing ourselves as "impaired," which is the only alternative I've heard of, really has better connotations. > > Best, > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: justin williams via nabs-l To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Date sent: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:15:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind onjob/internship > application process? > > The correct term is someone who has a disability. You wouldn't say someone > who is disabled. If you do that with true proes in the field, they will get > you for that. The theory is that a disability does not make you disabled. > Justin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton > via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:17 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kaiti Shelton Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship > application process? > > Hi, Miso and all, > > I'm in a position where my field helps people who have disabilities. > I would be very selective in using this, but if I'm applying to work in a > school's special needs program I might say, "As someone who is disabled I > believe I will have a greater sense of empathy and knowledge of disability > issues than someone who does not have a disability." That could also lead > into talk about role modeling and the student feeling more comfortable > discussing disability issues with me than their non-disabled parents, > teachers, friends, etc. However, if I'm applying for a job in someplace like > a hospital setting, where disability is not the main thing, I would say the > same but say, "As I have been hospitalized as a child to undergo surgeries > and other treatments," instead of the disability bit. > > I currently hold two jobs and am waiting to hear back from another where > blindness was a factor in my hiring process. One sounds similar to yours in > that it is an accessibility tester for my school, and the other is at a > center for the blind in my hometown where I work the phones at the front > desk. I have 2 separate resumes to use when applying for one or the other > kind of job; for jobs that don't want to hear about blindness stuff I've got > a very clean-cut resume, but for jobs like this and the disability services > office one I interviewed for I have one that mentions the access technology > I can use, the braille codes I know, my experience working with others who > have disabilities, etc. > > You also have to be careful on resumes with the scholarships; my "clean" one > doesn't mention the word blind at all, except for that I volunteered at one > place for the blind for a significant time under music therapists and the > center where I was a receptionist. The other one mentions it far more, > including my NFB scholarships at the national and state level, the camp I > counsel for, etc. Also on the clean copy I use "visually impaired" when > describing positions that have me working with blind people. Not that I'm a > fan of doing that in normal life, but in my field it is the politically > correct terminology and it isn't as jarring as saying blind. > > On 7/24/15, Bryan Duarte via nabs-l wrote: > I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was > recently contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with > them in the Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume > in hand already and I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make > several references to my research focus areas, student organizations I > am apart of, and my student clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my > resume give insight to my focus on the blind and low vision community. > I also make reference to the different tools I use and am proficient > in including the screen readers I use and Braille display. > > Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about > an hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview > process would operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to > share my screen and google docs to share with an engineer so they > could watch me write code collaboratively. This part was ok I still did > not disclose my blindness. > Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the > process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a > series of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would > be expected to write code once again, but this time it would be > writing it on a white board. For software engineers this is a common > way of laying out code when working on teams so I was familiar with > the possibility this would be asked of me. Now I had a decision to > make here. I could disclose my blindness and give them the opportunity > to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I could show up to > the interview concealing my disability and potentially set myself up > for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was > going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this > opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." > I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and > google docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white > boarding code. > My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice > my references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive > technology, he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a > software engineer who has no problem developing software with the best > of them but I do it as a blind person. As you might guess he was able > to read between the lines when he reviewed my resume and already had a > pretty good idea but as a good recruiter he was not going to ask the > question unless I first brought it up. > > > To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers > this August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews > they are well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and > more than willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we > as people with a disability in a world that is becoming more and more > aware of our presents and drive for equal and competitive employment > it is in our favor to wait for the right time and place to disclose > our disability in a way that makes it known we will be doing things > differently but we can and will still be committed to the opportunity > just as the rest of the people who interview. I hope this helps. > > Go Devils! > > Bryan Duarte > ASU Software Engineering > QwikEyes CEO > > On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l > wrote: > > You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, > if you served on the board of the Association of blind students at > any level, you could put that on your resume as part of your experience. > > This is if you were looking to disclose. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l > wrote: > > My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it > is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward > for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I > am legally blind. > What > i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and > holding paperwork to my nose. > > If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just > show up at the interview with your cane or dog. > > You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now > don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then > you add that under awards. > > Suzanne > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Morning, Justin, > > If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a > what > do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to > be > forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little > dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal > characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom > mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. > Car > > disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you > to disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the > interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability > was obvious upon sight. > So, > if > you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a > disability, in other words, your disability is not hidden, telling > the interviewer before you arrive lessens the shock value, and at > least gives you a better chance of having an honest interview. It > also gives you the ability to better access whether or not the > place in question is a good fit for you; you are interviewing them > as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can just go > to the interview not having told them anything if you think that > is best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in > need of an accommodation during the interview application or > interview process, then you have to disclose in order to receive > the appropriate accommodation. > I > hope this helps. > > Justin. > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso > Kwak via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship > application process? > > Hello everyone, > What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when > applying to internships and/or jobs? > I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have > done it once, but I had an easy way. > My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for > making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited > because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did > not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. > I am currently applying to different internships with hope of > getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. > So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle > disclosing that I am blind. > Would you do it on case by case basis? > For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly > serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, > whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby > sitting job, you would not? > I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > m > s2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40co > m > cast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40as > u. > edu > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40 > gma > il.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40as > u.ed > u > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarine > t104% > 40gmail.com > > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The > National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > ms2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kwakmiso%40aol.com From carlymih at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 22:20:02 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:20:02 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind onjob/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <55b2b127.a32e6b0a.ef7d.0f35@mx.google.com> References: <55b2b127.a32e6b0a.ef7d.0f35@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Afternoon, Karl, But isn't a foundational layer of our blind identities, in fact, our ocular blindness? Personally, I don't feel particularly comfortable naming myself ahead of my blindness. I love my having had blastoma, love my fake eyes and above all, love my blindness! CarThis is, as others have said, debated. In the NFB we for the most part describe ourselves as "blind people" and as "the blind." There are very good reasons for that; other personal characteristics don't use person first language. For instance, I would describe myself as "a straight, white, male" not as "a person who is straight, white, and a male." Setting disability up as the exception to our normal ways of talking about ourselves seems like a very bad idea if we believe that blindness and other disabilities are characteristics like any others. They also play into the medical model of disability (we describe diseases in person first language e.g. a person with cancer, a person with heart disease etc.), so person first language with regard to disabilities plays into the public narrative that disabilities are diseases to be cured. . There is, of course, the issue of the etymology of "disability" as literally meaning a "non-ability", but I'm not convinced that describing ourselves as "impaired," which is the only alternative I've heard of, really has better connotations. >Best, >Karl > >----- Original Message ----- >From: justin williams via nabs-l To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Date sent: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:15:39 -0400 >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind onjob/internship >application process? > >The correct term is someone who has a disability. You wouldn't say someone >who is disabled. If you do that with true proes in the field, they will get >you for that. The theory is that a disability does not make you disabled. >Justin. > >-----Original Message----- >From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton >via nabs-l >Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:17 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kaiti Shelton Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >application process? > >Hi, Miso and all, > >I'm in a position where my field helps people who have disabilities. >I would be very selective in using this, but if I'm applying to work in a >school's special needs program I might say, "As someone who is disabled I >believe I will have a greater sense of empathy and knowledge of disability >issues than someone who does not have a disability." That could also lead >into talk about role modeling and the student feeling more comfortable >discussing disability issues with me than their non-disabled parents, >teachers, friends, etc. However, if I'm applying for a job in someplace like >a hospital setting, where disability is not the main thing, I would say the >same but say, "As I have been hospitalized as a child to undergo surgeries >and other treatments," instead of the disability bit. > >I currently hold two jobs and am waiting to hear back from another where >blindness was a factor in my hiring process. One sounds similar to yours in >that it is an accessibility tester for my school, and the other is at a >center for the blind in my hometown where I work the phones at the front >desk. I have 2 separate resumes to use when applying for one or the other >kind of job; for jobs that don't want to hear about blindness stuff I've got >a very clean-cut resume, but for jobs like this and the disability services >office one I interviewed for I have one that mentions the access technology >I can use, the braille codes I know, my experience working with others who >have disabilities, etc. > >You also have to be careful on resumes with the scholarships; my "clean" one >doesn't mention the word blind at all, except for that I volunteered at one >place for the blind for a significant time under music therapists and the >center where I was a receptionist. The other one mentions it far more, >including my NFB scholarships at the national and state level, the camp I >counsel for, etc. Also on the clean copy I use "visually impaired" when >describing positions that have me working with blind people. Not that I'm a >fan of doing that in normal life, but in my field it is the politically >correct terminology and it isn't as jarring as saying blind. > >On 7/24/15, Bryan Duarte via nabs-l wrote: >I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was >recently contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with >them in the Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume >in hand already and I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make >several references to my research focus areas, student organizations I >am apart of, and my student clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my >resume give insight to my focus on the blind and low vision community. >I also make reference to the different tools I use and am proficient >in including the screen readers I use and Braille display. > >Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about >an hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview >process would operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to >share my screen and google docs to share with an engineer so they >could watch me write code collaboratively. This part was ok I still did >not disclose my blindness. >Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the >process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a >series of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would >be expected to write code once again, but this time it would be >writing it on a white board. For software engineers this is a common >way of laying out code when working on teams so I was familiar with >the possibility this would be asked of me. Now I had a decision to >make here. I could disclose my blindness and give them the opportunity >to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I could show up to >the interview concealing my disability and potentially set myself up >for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was >going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this >opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." >I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and >google docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white >boarding code. >My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice >my references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive >technology, he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a >software engineer who has no problem developing software with the best >of them but I do it as a blind person. As you might guess he was able >to read between the lines when he reviewed my resume and already had a >pretty good idea but as a good recruiter he was not going to ask the >question unless I first brought it up. > > >To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers >this August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews >they are well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and >more than willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we >as people with a disability in a world that is becoming more and more >aware of our presents and drive for equal and competitive employment >it is in our favor to wait for the right time and place to disclose >our disability in a way that makes it known we will be doing things >differently but we can and will still be committed to the opportunity >just as the rest of the people who interview. I hope this helps. > >Go Devils! > >Bryan Duarte >ASU Software Engineering >QwikEyes CEO > >On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l >wrote: > >You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, >if you served on the board of the Association of blind students at >any level, you could put that on your resume as part of your experience. > >This is if you were looking to disclose. > >Sent from my iPad > >On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l > wrote: > >My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it >is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward >for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I >am legally blind. >What >i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and >holding paperwork to my nose. > >If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just >show up at the interview with your cane or dog. > >You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now >don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then >you add that under awards. > >Suzanne > >On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < >nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >Morning, Justin, > >If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a >what >do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to >be >forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little >dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal >characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom >mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. >Car > >disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you >to disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the >interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability >was obvious upon sight. >So, >if >you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a >disability, in other words, your disability is not hidden, telling >the interviewer before you arrive lessens the shock value, and at >least gives you a better chance of having an honest interview. >It >also gives you the ability to better access whether or not the >place in question is a good fit for you; you are interviewing them >as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can just go >to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >is best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in >need of an accommodation during the interview application or >interview process, then you have to disclose in order to receive >the appropriate accommodation. > I >hope this helps. > >Justin. >-----Original Message----- >From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >Kwak via nabs-l >Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >application process? > >Hello everyone, >What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when >applying to internships and/or jobs? >I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have >done it once, but I had an easy way. >My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for >making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited >because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did >not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. >I am currently applying to different internships with hope of >getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. >So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle >disclosing that I am blind. >Would you do it on case by case basis? >For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly >serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, >whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby >sitting job, you would not? >I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >Thank you in advance. >Miso Kwak > > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for >nabs-l: > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >m >s2%40gmail >.com > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40co >m >cast.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40as >u. >edu >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40 >gma >il.com > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40as >u.ed >u > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarine >t104% >40gmail.com > > > >-- >Kaiti Shelton >University of Dayton-Music Therapy >President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The >National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 > >"You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >ms2%40gmail >.com > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >il.com > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From jsoro620 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 22:23:51 2015 From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 18:23:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <018001d0c65f$6d2023c0$47606b40$@gmail.com> Miso, With one exception, I've never disclosed my disability in a job application, and the exception was working a summer camp for the Iowa Department for the Blind. The only time this bit me in the ass was once when they required a writing exam, but even then we found a way to move the test onto a thumb drive and loaded it into my laptop. Yes, it's caught people off guard when I've shown up with a dog or cane, but what I'll do toward the end of the interview is acknowledge there are laws that prohibit questions about disabilities but that I want to be able to answer whatever uncertainties they may have. I've generally brought along my laptop for a screen reader demonstration if they'd like it and a Braille notetaker to show the kind of equipment I can bring along to get the job done. For something like this, I don't know that there is a right or wrong answer. I do know there's no definitive way of proving whether or not blindness can disqualify someone from advancing in an application process if the applicant self-discloses out of the gate, so with that in mind, it seems logical to wait at least until before the interview, if you do self-disclose, to be able to keep a little more control on your side of the table. Bryan's post I thought was excellent and a real practical way of handling self-disclosure. Joe -- Musings of a Work in Progress: www.JoeOrozco.com/ Twitter: @ScribblingJoe -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? Hello everyone, What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. Would you do it on case by case basis? For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro620%40gmail.com From carlymih at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 22:54:34 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:54:34 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <001d01d0c63c$bf113de0$3d33b9a0$@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <20150724123939.01E034B7EB2@bcnet8.asu.edu> <4E41762B-050E-46E1-8F9F-CC0B3F9576F3@gmail.com> <2A94058F-8515-49A5-972E-6F60E00C9642@asu.edu> <001d01d0c63c$bf113de0$3d33b9a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Afternoon, Justin, The hell it doesn't! I am proud of my occular seers not existing furthermore, i think that people-first construct is a wholotta bullshit myself..-----Original Message----- >From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton >via nabs-l >Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:17 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Kaiti Shelton >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship >application process? > >Hi, Miso and all, > >I'm in a position where my field helps people who have disabilities. >I would be very selective in using this, but if I'm applying to work in a >school's special needs program I might say, "As someone who is disabled I >believe I will have a greater sense of empathy and knowledge of disability >issues than someone who does not have a disability." That could also lead >into talk about role modeling and the student feeling more comfortable >discussing disability issues with me than their non-disabled parents, >teachers, friends, etc. However, if I'm applying for a job in someplace like >a hospital setting, where disability is not the main thing, I would say the >same but say, "As I have been hospitalized as a child to undergo surgeries >and other treatments," instead of the disability bit. > >I currently hold two jobs and am waiting to hear back from another where >blindness was a factor in my hiring process. One sounds similar to yours in >that it is an accessibility tester for my school, and the other is at a >center for the blind in my hometown where I work the phones at the front >desk. I have 2 separate resumes to use when applying for one or the other >kind of job; for jobs that don't want to hear about blindness stuff I've got >a very clean-cut resume, but for jobs like this and the disability services >office one I interviewed for I have one that mentions the access technology >I can use, the braille codes I know, my experience working with others who >have disabilities, etc. > >You also have to be careful on resumes with the scholarships; my "clean" one >doesn't mention the word blind at all, except for that I volunteered at one >place for the blind for a significant time under music therapists and the >center where I was a receptionist. The other one mentions it far more, >including my NFB scholarships at the national and state level, the camp I >counsel for, etc. Also on the clean copy I use "visually impaired" when >describing positions that have me working with blind people. Not that I'm a >fan of doing that in normal life, but in my field it is the politically >correct terminology and it isn't as jarring as saying blind. > >On 7/24/15, Bryan Duarte via nabs-l wrote: > > I would like to share my recent experience with this topic. I was > > recently contact by Google to explore my career opportunities with > > them in the Software Engineering field. They had a copy of my resume > > in hand already and I do not disclose that I am blind but I do make > > several references to my research focus areas, student organizations I > > am apart of, and my student clubs I operate. Each of these areas on my > > resume give insight to my focus on the blind and low vision community. > > I also make reference to the different tools I use and am proficient > > in including the screen readers I use and Braille display. > > > > Now during this initial contact I talked with the recruiter for about > > an hour before he eventually began telling me how the interview > > process would operate. I would be expected to use google hangouts to > > share my screen and google docs to share with an engineer so they > > could watch me write code collaboratively. This part was ok I still did >not disclose my blindness. > > Next he explained that if I were to be moved to the next stage of the > > process they would be flying me out to Mountain View California for a > > series of follow up interviews with four more engineers where I would > > be expected to write code once again, but this time it would be > > writing it on a white board. For software engineers this is a common > > way of laying out code when working on teams so I was familiar with > > the possibility this would be asked of me. Now I had a decision to > > make here. I could disclose my blindness and give them the opportunity > > to make accommodations for me a head of time, or I could show up to > > the interview concealing my disability and potentially set myself up > > for failure. I continued to listen intently to how the process was > > going to work and when he asked me if I had any questions I took this >opportunity to say, "Yes actually I do have a question and a few comments." > > I went on to explain that I have no problem using google hangouts and > > google docs to write code, but I did have a little issue with white >boarding code. > > My exact words were something to the effect of, well you might notice > > my references to all the focus on blind accessibility and assistive > > technology, he replied yes, and I told him it is because I am a > > software engineer who has no problem developing software with the best > > of them but I do it as a blind person. As you might guess he was able > > to read between the lines when he reviewed my resume and already had a > > pretty good idea but as a good recruiter he was not going to ask the >question unless I first brought it up. > > > > > > To sum this up I will be having an interview with Google engineers > > this August and if I should make it to the second stages of interviews > > they are well aware of my disability, my need for accommodations, and > > more than willing to make those necessary accommodations. I think we > > as people with a disability in a world that is becoming more and more > > aware of our presents and drive for equal and competitive employment > > it is in our favor to wait for the right time and place to disclose > > our disability in a way that makes it known we will be doing things > > differently but we can and will still be committed to the opportunity > > just as the rest of the people who interview. I hope this helps. > > > > Go Devils! > > > > Bryan Duarte > > ASU Software Engineering > > QwikEyes CEO > > > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Justin Harford via nabs-l > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> You could put blind related experience on your resume. For example, > >> if you served on the board of the Association of blind students at > >> any level, you could put that on your resume as part of your experience. > >> > >> This is if you were looking to disclose. > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Suzanne Germano via nabs-l > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> My opinion if you put in on a resume you make it look like maybe it > >>> is an issue. It is like at a career fair it would have been awkward > >>> for me to say Hi I am Suzanne I am looking for an internship and I > >>> am legally blind. > >>> What > >>> i did do was use my cane so they would know why I was squinting and > >>> holding paperwork to my nose. > >>> > >>> If it is just an inconvenience then why put it on a resume? just > >>> show up at the interview with your cane or dog. > >>> > >>> You resume should only speak to why you are a fit for the job. Now > >>> don't hide it for example if you received and NFB Scholarship then > >>> you add that under awards. > >>> > >>> Suzanne > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Carly via nabs-l < > >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Morning, Justin, > >>>> > >>>> If blindness remains like a party line insists, nothing more than a > >>>> what > >>>> do they call it, mere inconvenience, then why aren't we encouraged to > >>>> be > >>>> forthright about this personal characteristic? Feels a little > >>>> dishonest to me. Aren't we supposed to embrace this personal > >>>> characteristic? For my part, I love my blindness, want people whom > >>>> mix with me also to regard this blindness in a positive light. > >>>> Car > >>>> > >>>>> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you > >>>>> to disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the > >>>>> interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability > >>>>> was obvious upon sight. > >>>>> So, > >>>>> if > >>>>> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a > >>>>> disability, in other words, your disability is not hidden, telling > >>>>> the interviewer before you arrive lessens the shock value, and at > >>>>> least gives you a better chance of having an honest interview. It > >>>>> also gives you the ability to better access whether or not the > >>>>> place in question is a good fit for you; you are interviewing them > >>>>> as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can just go > >>>>> to the interview not having told them anything if you think that > >>>>> is best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in > >>>>> need of an accommodation during the interview application or > >>>>> interview process, then you have to disclose in order to receive > >>>>> the appropriate accommodation. > >>>>> I > >>>>> hope this helps. > >>>>> > >>>>> Justin. > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso > >>>>> Kwak via nabs-l > >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM > >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>>>> Cc: Miso Kwak > >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship > >>>>> application process? > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello everyone, > >>>>> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when > >>>>> applying to internships and/or jobs? > >>>>> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have > >>>>> done it once, but I had an easy way. > >>>>> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for > >>>>> making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited > >>>>> because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did > >>>>> not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. > >>>>> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of > >>>>> getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. > >>>>> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle > >>>>> disclosing that I am blind. > >>>>> Would you do it on case by case basis? > >>>>> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly > >>>>> serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, > >>>>> whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby > >>>>> sitting job, you would not? > >>>>> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. > >>>>> Thank you in advance. > >>>>> Miso Kwak > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> nabs-l mailing list > >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>>>> for > >>>>> nabs-l: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.william > >>>>> s2%40gmail > >>>>> .com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> nabs-l mailing list > >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>>>> for > >>>>> nabs-l: > >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40com > >>>>> cast.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> nabs-l mailing list > >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>>> for > >>>> nabs-l: > >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu. > >>>> edu > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> nabs-l mailing list > >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>> for > >>> nabs-l: > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gma > >>> il.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list > >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >> nabs-l: > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.ed > >> u > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104% > > 40gmail.com > > > > >-- >Kaiti Shelton >University of Dayton-Music Therapy >President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The >National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 > >"You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >.com > > >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From bjduarte at asu.edu Sat Jul 25 00:57:55 2015 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:57:55 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including attachments. In-Reply-To: References: <000301d0c5ca$73fb2950$5bf17bf0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <162B0ADC-C6A2-425A-B856-93F29F4877ED@asu.edu> Hello Kaiti, I did two quick Google searches and here is what I found for you... Google Forms does not allow respondents to upload files. There are some ways around this though: Have them upload the file directly to your Drive account. See instructions here . Use JotForm , which has integration with Drive. This is information on using Google forms and I also provided the link to this site just below this for you to visit if you wish. https://support.google.com/docs/answer/3527854?hl=en NVDA, VoiceOver, JAWS If you're using NVDA, VoiceOver, or JAWS when you edit a form, it's best to use the screen reader's application mode. In general, application mode provides a better experience than document mode. However, you might have to enable document mode to read some parts of the form, such as the form description or section headers. Tips for using Google Forms Search the menus Many tasks in Google Forms can start with a menu search. There are two ways to start a menu search: Option 1: Press Alt + / (Windows, Chrome OS) or Option + / (Mac). Option 2: Open the Help menu by pressing Alt + H (Chrome on Windows, Chrome OS), Alt + Shift + H (Windows), or Control + Option + H (Mac). Press the down arrow to enter the search box. Once your focus is in the search box, you can type a command, such as "Rename," "Share," or "Insert." Press the down arrow to hear search results for the action that you searched. For example, searching for "Insert" provides options to insert text, a section header, and other choices. Press Enter to apply the desired action. Keyboard shortcuts Because Google Forms is different from a typical website, some standard screen reader shortcuts don't apply. For the best experience, use Google Forms shortcuts while editing your form. If you ever forget a key combination, you can open a list of keyboard shortcuts within Google Forms by pressing Control + / (Windows, Chrome OS) or Command + / (Mac). Along with a list of shortcuts, the dialog contains a link to view all Google Forms shortcuts in the Help Center. To close the dialog, press Escape. Although I have used Google forms I have never really had to set one up which allowed for the uploading of attachments to my google drive. This sounds very doable if you are interested I can assist you further off list. It sounds like someone else is willing to create something for you if you are interested in that route... Hope this helps and you know where to find me if you need... "wink" Go Devils! Bryan Duarte ASU Software Engineering QwikEyes CEO > On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > If this is more helpful than my explanation (I suck at explaining > things sometimes), here are a few examples of what I would like to do. > > Accept applications with supporting documentation in an attachment. > Have people take a survey, then upload supporting documentation. > Give members of a group the ability to privately submit feedback > information and allow for them to submit an attachment of notes, > suggestions, etc if they like. > > Thanks, > > On 7/24/15, Kaiti Shelton wrote: >> Hi, Chris, >> >> I have used surveymonkey to take surveys, but it isn't accessible for >> setting them up. The other thing is that it doesn't have the >> capability to allow users to upload attachments requested by the >> person managing the form. >> >> Basically I need to have a form with the capability of collecting >> attachments so I can gather information for databases. >> >> On 7/24/15, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l wrote: >>> Hi Kaiti: >>> >>> I'm not sure if I'm fully understanding the question, but have you tried >>> surveymonkey.com? >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti >>> Shelton >>> via nabs-l >>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:23 AM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Kaiti Shelton >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Sites for submiting/collecting data including >>> attachments. >>> >>> Hi, all, >>> >>> I'm wondering if such a tool exists; I'm trying to find a pre-designed >>> site >>> that has tools for filling out information as in a form, along with spots >>> for people to upload attachments. If a tool exists that would allow >>> survey-takers, candidates, or insert other terminology for subjects here >>> to >>> fill out information, upload stuff, and for that stuff to be collected >>> and >>> emails sent to the recipient of the data and to the people who submit to >>> confirm their entries, that would be ideal. >>> >>> I'm not sure where to even start with searching on my own as I don't know >>> what you would even call such sites, but it would be wonderful if anyone >>> knows of any. It would be especially helpful if there was a mode in set >>> up >>> where the recipient of the data could modify what the questions with edit >>> boxes ask, the text content, and what the fields for documents require. >>> >>> I'm by no means a tech whiz and don't have any coding experience, nor do >>> the >>> people who would be working on this potential project with me. >>> I am also interested in it for personal reasons as I could such a >>> resource, >>> if it exists, in my student division quite a bit instead of more >>> primitive >>> ways of taking information from members. At this point I'm aware of >>> Google >>> Forms but don't think that allows for document uploads. That's the >>> extent >>> of what I know so far. >>> >>> Any knowledge on this topic would be wonderful. Thanks in advance for >>> any >>> responses. >>> >>> -- >>> Kaiti Shelton >>> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The >>> National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 >>> >>> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kaiti Shelton >> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present >> Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts >> Division 2015-2016 >> >> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >> > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bjduarte%40asu.edu From carlymih at comcast.net Sat Jul 25 01:07:30 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 18:07:30 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship applicationprocess? In-Reply-To: References: <55b237a6.c347810a.a474.0631@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Afternoon, Aleeha, Wouldn't it be pretentious of you not to acct like a blind woman, if in fact, you are a total? Who are we trying to kid, anyway? In my case, it is not realistic of me to dessociate my blindness from my person. Car06:51 AM 7/24/2015, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l wrote: >Personally, I would not disclose on the >application. I would wait until the interview, >so that I might present myself in the best >possible light to my prospective boss. I don’t >want someone making assumptions about my >capabilities before I even get to the >interview. > On Jul 24, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Roanna >Bacchus via nabs-l >wrote: > > Hi Miso thanks for your >message. When I was hired for my internship I >did not disclose my blindness. I am taking the >place of the previous accessibility consultant >who was also blind. When applying for a >corporate internship I would put that I am >visually impaired on the job application. > > >_______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for nabs-l: > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get >your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From kwakmiso at aol.com Sat Jul 25 01:28:09 2015 From: kwakmiso at aol.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:28:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Donating a Full-length AP Chemistry Practice Test in Braille Message-ID: <8D294904CD8460A-1D84-21A2CB@webmail-vm103.sysops.aol.com> Hello students, I am writing to see if anyone would be interested in taking a fully brailled AP Chemistry practice exam for free. I used this in 2012 when I was preparing for the AP exam. I realize that it has been a while since I used this test, and according to my high school AP chemistry teacher, the test has changed since then, but the contents would still be valuable for studying for the exam. The test is in four volumes including all of necessary diagrams, and was provided by the College Board. The volumes collected some dusts, but otherwise in good condition. If you decide to take this, I will make sure to ship it to you in cleanest condition possible. If you are interested, or know someone who may be interested, please write to me off list. Best regards, Miso Kwak From zumbagecko at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 03:04:07 2015 From: zumbagecko at gmail.com (petras) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:04:07 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] windows 10 and jaws 16 Message-ID: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> Hi, if I upgrade to windows 10, will jaws 16 need to be installed again? From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 03:26:15 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:26:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] windows 10 and jaws 16 In-Reply-To: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> References: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <00d001d0c689$aa554ac0$feffe040$@gmail.com> No, it should carry over if you're running it on the same system. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of petras via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:04 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: petras Subject: [nabs-l] windows 10 and jaws 16 Hi, if I upgrade to windows 10, will jaws 16 need to be installed again? _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From brailleprincess at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 04:01:33 2015 From: brailleprincess at gmail.com (Kayla Weathers) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:01:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] windows 10 and jaws 16 In-Reply-To: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> References: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <262B07A5-50A9-4BA7-84EA-472A1B78B4D8@gmail.com> That's actually a really good question, and I was wondering the same thing. If I have the latest version of JAWS and upgrade from windows 8.1 to 10, will JFW be compatible with the upgrade? KaylaSent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:04 PM, petras via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi, if I upgrade to windows 10, will jaws 16 need to be installed again? > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/brailleprincess%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Sat Jul 25 04:26:51 2015 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:26:51 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] windows 10 and jaws 16 In-Reply-To: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> References: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> Message-ID: A recent edition of FS-Cast had a discussion of Windows 10. I believe it also said there will be instructions on the Freedom Scientific web site. There are several considerations, so it isn't as simple as "will I have to reinstall JAWS." and I think the answer to that is no. Dave At 10:04 PM 7/24/2015, you wrote: >Hi, if I upgrade to windows 10, will jaws 16 need to be installed again? David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org From arielle71 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 04:47:19 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:47:19 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship applicationprocess? In-Reply-To: <55b2e16d.e6258c0a.bd5a.3e3dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <55b237a6.c347810a.a474.0631@mx.google.com> <55b2e16d.e6258c0a.bd5a.3e3dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi all. I think I handle disclosure in a similar way to many of you. I don't actively hide my blindness-related work, but I don't explicitly mention it on applications unless it is job-relevant. I do mention blindness when I apply for jobs at disability-related research centers or when I apply for grants to support disability-related work I do. I know my name is all over Google in conjunction with the NFB and that somebody could figure out I was blind if they really wanted to. At the same time, though, I don't mention blindness if it's not job-relevant just like I don't mention being Jewish unless I'm applying for something at a Jewish organization. I generally will mention blindness at the point right before an employer will meet me in person and inevitably find out. I think that in an ideal world I shouldn't have to do this. However, I do it because I know that some people feel like they have been "blindsided" (pardon the pun) if they discover blindness without being warned in advance about it. I disclose in the frame of "something I haven't yet mentioned is that I am blind, and I am happy to answer any questions about the techniques I use to do my job". I feel like this gives me more control over their initial reaction to finding out, though I also recognize that an employer who thinks my blindness is that big of a liability might not be someone I want to work for at all. My current boss offered me a position before meeting me (through phone interview and written document review) so I had not yet had this conversation with him when I was hired. I mentioned blindness in the middle of my acceptance email and he seemed fine with it (as he should be, since I work in a disability research group). Obviously if you think you will need any accessibility accommodations during your interview, like Brian, then it is far better to disclose before you start than to try to get through the interview without accommodations. Best of luck! Arielle On 7/24/15, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote: > > Afternoon, Aleeha, > > Wouldn't it be pretentious of you not to > acct like a blind woman, if in fact, you are a > total? Who are we trying to kid, anyway? In my > case, it is not realistic of me to dessociate my blindness from my person. > Car06:51 AM 7/24/2015, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l wrote: >>Personally, I would not disclose on the >>application. I would wait until the interview, >>so that I might present myself in the best >>possible light to my prospective boss. I don’t >>want someone making assumptions about my >>capabilities before I even get to the >>interview. > On Jul 24, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Roanna >>Bacchus via nabs-l >>wrote: > > Hi Miso thanks for your >>message. When I was hired for my internship I >>did not disclose my blindness. I am taking the >>place of the previous accessibility consultant >>who was also blind. When applying for a >>corporate internship I would put that I am >>visually impaired on the job application. > > >>_______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >>get your account info for nabs-l: > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get >>your account info for nabs-l: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From arielle71 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 04:57:27 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:57:27 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language Message-ID: Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language which was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article described how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there is a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") or identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that clinicians should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you would not automatically need to call your client a person with a disability unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the vast majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term "people with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term "autistic person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms and follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring language and building common language is a part of building rapport and trust with others. Arielle From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 17:04:08 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00eb01d0c6fb$ec9a98f0$c5cfcad0$@gmail.com> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them by those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day maneusha which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Arielle Silverman Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language which was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article described how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there is a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") or identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that clinicians should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you would not automatically need to call your client a person with a disability unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the vast majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term "people with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term "autistic person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms and follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring language and building common language is a part of building rapport and trust with others. Arielle _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 17:11:15 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:11:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] windows 10 and jaws 16 In-Reply-To: <262B07A5-50A9-4BA7-84EA-472A1B78B4D8@gmail.com> References: <55b2fcbc.2f82460a.495d.ffffdecd@mx.google.com> <262B07A5-50A9-4BA7-84EA-472A1B78B4D8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010501d0c6fc$ea61a370$bf24ea50$@gmail.com> What have I missed. Is there anything I should no or do to go from windows 7 to th? I've never used windows 8. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kayla Weathers via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:02 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kayla Weathers Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows 10 and jaws 16 That's actually a really good question, and I was wondering the same thing. If I have the latest version of JAWS and upgrade from windows 8.1 to 10, will JFW be compatible with the upgrade? KaylaSent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:04 PM, petras via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi, if I upgrade to windows 10, will jaws 16 need to be installed again? > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/brailleprincess%40gmail. com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 17:24:12 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:24:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <00eb01d0c6fb$ec9a98f0$c5cfcad0$@gmail.com> References: <00eb01d0c6fb$ec9a98f0$c5cfcad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Arielle, for that information. I'll definitely look up that article. It definitely makes sense to use whatever terminology each person is comfortable with, including one's self as a clinician. I'd argue that using person first language is not always setting the best professional example because too often professionals are out of touch with how disability is a part of a person's identity. I'd also argue that in cases where that person feels their disability is a part of who their, E.G, blind person or an autistic person, then it could be less empowering to call them, "A person who is blind/has autism." Personally I'm annoyed by person first language when it is being used on me because to me it signifies that the person is being overly cautious with me, and I'll do what Arielle talked of doing but in reverse. I'll refer to myself as, "A blind person," so that the others around me know it is okay to use identity first language with me. So far I have done the other thing Arielle described, and that is I do make sure I listen to clients and how they want their disability/condition to be referred to. I know one client I came across in volunteer work who's family preferred "Legally blind," while another preferred "visually impaired." I do strive to honor those personal choices, but I also want to have my own personal choice of how I refer to myself honored. On 7/25/15, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: > While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my > consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or > deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them by > those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day maneusha > which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in > the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've > noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more > empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle > Silverman via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Arielle Silverman > Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language > > Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language > which > was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana > Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article described > how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there is > a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") > or > identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that > clinicians > should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms > (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you > would not automatically need to call your client a person with a disability > unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the > vast > majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be > called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term > "people > with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term > "autistic > person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are > actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family > objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term > "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. > When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms > and > follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring > language and building common language is a part of building rapport and > trust with others. > Arielle > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 17:38:51 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:38:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? In-Reply-To: <8167BB21-9A28-443A-A933-C10E35FBCFC8@jd16.law.harvard.edu> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <8167BB21-9A28-443A-A933-C10E35FBCFC8@jd16.law.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <01ea01d0c700$c5b5ae50$51210af0$@gmail.com> If it gets discussed in an interview, I would be quick to tie it back to the job. From what I have observed, most of us on these lists seem to have an easier time expressing ourselves, so discussing blindness on a job interview would be okay as long as you tie your visual disability back to your ability to do the job. However, be careful with your consumers, because some of them won't be comfortable enough to go back and forth. I seen some consumers tell the employers everthing in sundry about their disability which was more than the employer bargained for, and the employer was uncomfortable. I can go back and forth myself on a job interview, or in normal conversation, and so can many of you. You have to be able to stim the flood gates so the interview or application process does not become centered on your disability. Justin -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Manners via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:42 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Derek Manners Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? I think there are good arguments on both sides. My thoughts on the subject are that my resume is impressive enough and my experiences are good enough that folks should know it isn't an issue. Besides all that, I spend a heck of a lot time doing the work of the federation so I might as well get some credit and put it down under experiences. I also let the interviewer know right away once I get there that I may not be making perfect eye contact due to my blindness. Y'a know, just in case treasurer of National Association of Blind Students and carrying a cane isn't enough to alert them. That allows them to have a free pass to ask any questions they may want to ask since you've broached the subject. I just think that not discussing it isn't an option because so few people understand blindness. Also, I don't want to work at a place that feels like it has to walk on egg shales with me or that isn't looking to make sure I'm a good fit. All of that said, 80-90% of the interview and pre interview communication should be about the job and why you are qualified and what each of you is looking for in the other. Blindness isn't the characteristic that defines me but it is the characteristic that employers notice first about me. The sooner I can control that narrative, the better off the interview will be. Again, these are my opinions and everyone has their own approach. Best regards Derek Manners Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2015, at 3:11 AM, Miso Kwak via nabs-l wrote: > > Hello everyone, > What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? > I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. > My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. > I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. > So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. > Would you do it on case by case basis? > For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? > I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harv ard.edu _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From kmaent1 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 17:50:33 2015 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:50:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language Message-ID: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called than they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations spend our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud of their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or something similar is extremely disrespectful. ----- Original Message ----- From: justin williams via nabs-l References: <00eb01d0c6fb$ec9a98f0$c5cfcad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <020401d0c703$168923a0$439b6ae0$@gmail.com> Keep in mine, you have to separate personal from professional. Practice yout person first language, then when you do it well, you will learn where you can be less formal. I'm not sthat you forever and always have to use person first language, but both in my masters' program, and aon my intership, if you didn't, you got corrected. You may not like it, but learn to love it; I didn. In informal situations, sometimes I'm informal. Also, when I'm out and about, if I hear some say, that blind guy, I Emphatically remind of my name bequeathed to me at my birth. That, is Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:24 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kaiti Shelton Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language Thanks, Arielle, for that information. I'll definitely look up that article. It definitely makes sense to use whatever terminology each person is comfortable with, including one's self as a clinician. I'd argue that using person first language is not always setting the best professional example because too often professionals are out of touch with how disability is a part of a person's identity. I'd also argue that in cases where that person feels their disability is a part of who their, E.G, blind person or an autistic person, then it could be less empowering to call them, "A person who is blind/has autism." Personally I'm annoyed by person first language when it is being used on me because to me it signifies that the person is being overly cautious with me, and I'll do what Arielle talked of doing but in reverse. I'll refer to myself as, "A blind person," so that the others around me know it is okay to use identity first language with me. So far I have done the other thing Arielle described, and that is I do make sure I listen to clients and how they want their disability/condition to be referred to. I know one client I came across in volunteer work who's family preferred "Legally blind," while another preferred "visually impaired." I do strive to honor those personal choices, but I also want to have my own personal choice of how I refer to myself honored. On 7/25/15, justin williams via nabs-l wrote: > While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for > my consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically > disabled, or deaf, or something such as that. They use the > terminology given to them by those who while well meaning, are not in > touch with the day to day maneusha which goes along with having a > disability. I am careful to usualy stay in the professional > guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've noticed that > when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle > Silverman via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Arielle Silverman > Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language > > Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language > which was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored > by Dana Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the > article described how language preferences are changing. As others > have pointed out, there is a lot of debate about whether to use > person-first ("person who is blind") or identity-first ("blind > person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that clinicians should simply > ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms (honoring > different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you would > not automatically need to call your client a person with a disability > unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that > the vast majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have > autism want to be called "autistic people" and the only people I know > who use the term "people with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I > regularly use the term "autistic person" because that seems to be the > majority preference for those who are actually part of that group. If > a particular autistic person or family objects, then I will switch to > their term of choice. I also use the term "blind person" to describe > myself and others in the blindness community. > When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their > terms and follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I > think honoring language and building common language is a part of > building rapport and trust with others. > Arielle > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%4 > 0gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104% > 40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 17:57:50 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:57:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <020501d0c703$6c7fab80$457f0280$@gmail.com> No, I use proper technique. They can call themselves what they want. I'm a professional when I'm doing a job. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:51 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Karl Martin Adam Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called than they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations spend our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud of their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or something similar is extremely disrespectful. ----- Original Message ----- From: justin williams via nabs-l References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 years, so I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. Most deaf people are very proud of their culture and their community and you don't even consider themselves to have a disability. They do preferred to use a D – a D to describe themselves. Also, using hearing impairment is very disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death because that is how they see themselves. As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever the person or people are comfortable with. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l wrote: > > Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called than they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations spend our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud of their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or something similar is extremely disrespectful. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: justin williams via nabs-l To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language > > While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my > consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or > deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them by > those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day maneusha > which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in > the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've > noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more > empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle > Silverman via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Arielle Silverman Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language > > Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language which > was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana > Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article described > how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there is > a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") or > identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that clinicians > should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms > (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you > would not automatically need to call your client a person with a disability > unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the vast > majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be > called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term "people > with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term "autistic > person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are > actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family > objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term > "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. > When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms and > follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring > language and building common language is a part of building rapport and > trust with others. > Arielle > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > ms2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 21:54:34 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:54:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Personally, what Caitlin just said extends to me even as a student in a clinical field. I may be corrected in the future, but if I don't see how a supervisor will have reason to correct me for identifying myself as long as I am professional and politically correct when referring to clients. They can correct me all they want if I call a child I'm working with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm saying, "As a blind person I..." and they call me out on it, I'm likely to explain why I prefer identity first language and liken it to Deaf with a capital D instead of hearing impaired, and other such examples. I accept it is the right thing to do in clinical work, and want to set a good example for others I might meet as a professional, but that is separate from my personal beliefs and how I want to be treated/referred to. You're right, you do have to separate personal from professional and if people take issue with what I call myself and not my clients, then that's them not separating the two, not I. On 7/25/15, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: > I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 years, so > I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. Most deaf people > are very proud of their culture and their community and you don't even > consider themselves to have a disability. They do preferred to use a D – a D > to describe themselves. Also, using hearing impairment is very > disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death because > that is how they see themselves. > > As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever the > person or people are comfortable with. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called than >> they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea >> that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large >> part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations spend >> our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >> people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud of >> their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or >> something similar is extremely disrespectful. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: justin williams via nabs-l > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >> > Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language >> >> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my >> consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or >> deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them >> by >> those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day >> maneusha >> which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in >> the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've >> noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more >> empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle >> Silverman via nabs-l >> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Arielle Silverman > Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language >> >> Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language >> which >> was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana >> Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article >> described >> how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there >> is >> a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") >> or >> identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >> clinicians >> should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms >> (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you >> would not automatically need to call your client a person with a >> disability >> unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the >> vast >> majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be >> called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term >> "people >> with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term >> "autistic >> person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are >> actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family >> objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term >> "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. >> When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms >> and >> follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring >> language and building common language is a part of building rapport and >> trust with others. >> Arielle >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >> ms2%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >> il.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From blindstein at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 22:18:42 2015 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:18:42 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> I share a similar experience, working here in the independent living movement. I always use the politically correct language when referring to other people, and when at professional functions, but I am always a blind person, not a person who is blind. > On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > Personally, what Caitlin just said extends to me even as a student in > a clinical field. I may be corrected in the future, but if I don't > see how a supervisor will have reason to correct me for identifying > myself as long as I am professional and politically correct when > referring to clients. They can correct me all they want if I call a > child I'm working with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm saying, > "As a blind person I..." and they call me out on it, I'm likely to > explain why I prefer identity first language and liken it to Deaf with > a capital D instead of hearing impaired, and other such examples. > > I accept it is the right thing to do in clinical work, and want to set > a good example for others I might meet as a professional, but that is > separate from my personal beliefs and how I want to be > treated/referred to. You're right, you do have to separate personal > from professional and if people take issue with what I call myself and > not my clients, then that's them not separating the two, not I. > >> On 7/25/15, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >> I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 years, so >> I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. Most deaf people >> are very proud of their culture and their community and you don't even >> consider themselves to have a disability. They do preferred to use a D – a D >> to describe themselves. Also, using hearing impairment is very >> disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death because >> that is how they see themselves. >> >> As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever the >> person or people are comfortable with. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called than >>> they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea >>> that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large >>> part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations spend >>> our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >>> people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud of >>> their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or >>> something similar is extremely disrespectful. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: justin williams via nabs-l >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>> >>> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my >>> consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or >>> deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them >>> by >>> those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day >>> maneusha >>> which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in >>> the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've >>> noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more >>> empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle >>> Silverman via nabs-l >>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Arielle Silverman >> Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>> >>> Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language >>> which >>> was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana >>> Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article >>> described >>> how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there >>> is >>> a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") >>> or >>> identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >>> clinicians >>> should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms >>> (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you >>> would not automatically need to call your client a person with a >>> disability >>> unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the >>> vast >>> majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be >>> called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term >>> "people >>> with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term >>> "autistic >>> person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are >>> actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family >>> objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term >>> "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. >>> When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms >>> and >>> follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring >>> language and building common language is a part of building rapport and >>> trust with others. >>> Arielle >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com From arielle71 at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 00:47:52 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:47:52 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all. We all know that historically the blindness professions have often been out of touch with what blind people actually want. I would argue that what a "professional" thinks we should say is far less important than what our clients want to be called. After all, isn't professionalism, in the end, about pleasing and respecting the customer? As others have mentioned, I am aware that many (though not all) Deaf people call themselves Deaf with a capital D. So, that's the term I'll use unless a specific deaf individual prefers different terms. To be an empowering professional service provider, I think it is so critically important to research and understand the preferences of the communities you are serving. After all, that's what we rightfully expect out of blindness professionals who serve us. Best, Arielle On 7/25/15, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: > I share a similar experience, working here in the independent living > movement. I always use the politically correct language when referring to > other people, and when at professional functions, but I am always a blind > person, not a person who is blind. > > > >> On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Personally, what Caitlin just said extends to me even as a student in >> a clinical field. I may be corrected in the future, but if I don't >> see how a supervisor will have reason to correct me for identifying >> myself as long as I am professional and politically correct when >> referring to clients. They can correct me all they want if I call a >> child I'm working with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm saying, >> "As a blind person I..." and they call me out on it, I'm likely to >> explain why I prefer identity first language and liken it to Deaf with >> a capital D instead of hearing impaired, and other such examples. >> >> I accept it is the right thing to do in clinical work, and want to set >> a good example for others I might meet as a professional, but that is >> separate from my personal beliefs and how I want to be >> treated/referred to. You're right, you do have to separate personal >> from professional and if people take issue with what I call myself and >> not my clients, then that's them not separating the two, not I. >> >>> On 7/25/15, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >>> I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 years, >>> so >>> I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. Most deaf >>> people >>> are very proud of their culture and their community and you don't even >>> consider themselves to have a disability. They do preferred to use a D – >>> a D >>> to describe themselves. Also, using hearing impairment is very >>> disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death >>> because >>> that is how they see themselves. >>> >>> As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever the >>> person or people are comfortable with. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called than >>>> they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea >>>> that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large >>>> part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations >>>> spend >>>> our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >>>> people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud >>>> of >>>> their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or >>>> something similar is extremely disrespectful. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: justin williams via nabs-l >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>>> >>>> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for >>>> my >>>> consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, >>>> or >>>> deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them >>>> by >>>> those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day >>>> maneusha >>>> which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay >>>> in >>>> the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. >>>> I've >>>> noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more >>>> empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle >>>> Silverman via nabs-l >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Cc: Arielle Silverman >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>>> >>>> Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language >>>> which >>>> was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana >>>> Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article >>>> described >>>> how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there >>>> is >>>> a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is >>>> blind") >>>> or >>>> identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >>>> clinicians >>>> should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms >>>> (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you >>>> would not automatically need to call your client a person with a >>>> disability >>>> unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the >>>> vast >>>> majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to >>>> be >>>> called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term >>>> "people >>>> with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term >>>> "autistic >>>> person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who >>>> are >>>> actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family >>>> objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term >>>> "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. >>>> When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms >>>> and >>>> follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think >>>> honoring >>>> language and building common language is a part of building rapport and >>>> trust with others. >>>> Arielle >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> Kaiti Shelton >> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present >> Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts >> Division 2015-2016 >> >> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 01:18:01 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:18:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> Message-ID: I know a music therapist who I volunteer under, and she sets a great example of this. I don't think she shies away from talking about her blindness at all, especially as her primary population is blind children and children with multiple disabilities. Years ago when I saw her for braille music lessons that was very helpful to me. She was someone I could go to for things outside of music because I could relate to her, and at the time she was the only blind adult my family and I knew. As I got older and started volunteering with her, I saw how important it was to be attentive to the needs and wants of different families she worked with. While one client might readily identify themselves as blind, and their parents as well, another would say "visually impaired." She was always very perceptive and respectful of individual choices in terminology, but never shied away from calling herself a blind person in conversation from what I observed. I volunteered under her for several hours at a time once a month for four years, and still do so when I have a break that lines up with her sessions. I very much so think that the human services professions leave a lot to be desired for those of us with disabilities who are aspiring practitioners. That umbrella of professions from what I've observed just hasn't caught up with the notion of the helpees being the helpers alongside the able-bodied professionals yet. There is only one way that we're going to make this lapse in understanding better, and that is if we educate them through our example. I personally think that anyone working in a disability field needs to seriously take time to learn what the daily minute details of life are like for the people they serve so that situations where the professional has no clue what is really best for their client can be avoided. I also think that agencies across the subfields of human services won't think they have the time, money, or reason to require their employees to work that hard to understand their clientelle. The best way we can change the status quo is if we get in there and show them how to approach this and situations like it. It is disrespectful to assume that everyone who can't hear wants to be called "hearing impaired," or "a person who is deaf." Arielle's example about Autism, and what some feel about blindness, are further examples that discredit the idea that first person language is the only way to go. I don't know about other human services students, but I've been taught that therapy is all about trying creative solutions to best suit the needs of the individual. This one-size-fits-all approach to referencing disabilities isn't current, as I'm sure the article Arielle posted in the beginning and others attest. Another crucial part of therapy, no matter what type, is establishing rapport and a therapeutic connection with clients. I want the kids I will work with to ask me questions about their disabilities or my own so that they can come to a better understanding of myself. I feel more comfortable and less stuffy when I'm referred to as "a blind person," and perhaps that might do a client of mine some good in the future. If they see a confident and productive adult who is comfortable in their own skin they'll be more likely to ask questions and share thoughts on their own disability or condition. It happened with me and the music therapist I mentioned earlier, and I doubt that was a rare case. On 7/25/15, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l wrote: > Hi all. We all know that historically the blindness professions have > often been out of touch with what blind people actually want. I would > argue that what a "professional" thinks we should say is far less > important than what our clients want to be called. After all, isn't > professionalism, in the end, about pleasing and respecting the > customer? As others have mentioned, I am aware that many (though not > all) Deaf people call themselves Deaf with a capital D. So, that's the > term I'll use unless a specific deaf individual prefers different > terms. To be an empowering professional service provider, I think it > is so critically important to research and understand the preferences > of the communities you are serving. After all, that's what we > rightfully expect out of blindness professionals who serve us. > Best, Arielle > > On 7/25/15, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: >> I share a similar experience, working here in the independent living >> movement. I always use the politically correct language when referring to >> other people, and when at professional functions, but I am always a blind >> person, not a person who is blind. >> >> >> >>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Personally, what Caitlin just said extends to me even as a student in >>> a clinical field. I may be corrected in the future, but if I don't >>> see how a supervisor will have reason to correct me for identifying >>> myself as long as I am professional and politically correct when >>> referring to clients. They can correct me all they want if I call a >>> child I'm working with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm saying, >>> "As a blind person I..." and they call me out on it, I'm likely to >>> explain why I prefer identity first language and liken it to Deaf with >>> a capital D instead of hearing impaired, and other such examples. >>> >>> I accept it is the right thing to do in clinical work, and want to set >>> a good example for others I might meet as a professional, but that is >>> separate from my personal beliefs and how I want to be >>> treated/referred to. You're right, you do have to separate personal >>> from professional and if people take issue with what I call myself and >>> not my clients, then that's them not separating the two, not I. >>> >>>> On 7/25/15, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >>>> I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 >>>> years, >>>> so >>>> I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. Most deaf >>>> people >>>> are very proud of their culture and their community and you don't even >>>> consider themselves to have a disability. They do preferred to use a D – >>>> a D >>>> to describe themselves. Also, using hearing impairment is very >>>> disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death >>>> because >>>> that is how they see themselves. >>>> >>>> As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever the >>>> person or people are comfortable with. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called >>>>> than >>>>> they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea >>>>> that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large >>>>> part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations >>>>> spend >>>>> our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >>>>> people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud >>>>> of >>>>> their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or >>>>> something similar is extremely disrespectful. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: justin williams via nabs-l >>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>>> >>>> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>>>> >>>>> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for >>>>> my >>>>> consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, >>>>> or >>>>> deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to >>>>> them >>>>> by >>>>> those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day >>>>> maneusha >>>>> which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay >>>>> in >>>>> the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. >>>>> I've >>>>> noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes >>>>> more >>>>> empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle >>>>> Silverman via nabs-l >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Cc: Arielle Silverman >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>>>> >>>>> Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language >>>>> which >>>>> was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana >>>>> Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article >>>>> described >>>>> how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, >>>>> there >>>>> is >>>>> a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is >>>>> blind") >>>>> or >>>>> identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >>>>> clinicians >>>>> should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms >>>>> (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you >>>>> would not automatically need to call your client a person with a >>>>> disability >>>>> unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the >>>>> vast >>>>> majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to >>>>> be >>>>> called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term >>>>> "people >>>>> with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term >>>>> "autistic >>>>> person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who >>>>> are >>>>> actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family >>>>> objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the >>>>> term >>>>> "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness >>>>> community. >>>>> When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their >>>>> terms >>>>> and >>>>> follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think >>>>> honoring >>>>> language and building common language is a part of building rapport and >>>>> trust with others. >>>>> Arielle >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>>> ms2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>>> il.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kaiti Shelton >>> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present >>> Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts >>> Division 2015-2016 >>> >>> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From carlymih at comcast.net Sun Jul 26 03:43:47 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:43:47 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> Message-ID: Evening, Justin, Sounds like you view your own experience, as removed from other blind ones? Am I understanding this right? Why then not just call everyone blind people, for that's what we will remain? Car At 03:18 PM 7/25/2015, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: >I share a similar experience, working here in >the independent living movement. I always use >the politically correct language when referring >to other people, and when at professional >functions, but I am always a blind person, not a >person who is blind. > On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:54 >PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l >wrote: > > Personally, what Caitlin just said >extends to me even as a student in > a clinical >field. I may be corrected in the future, but if >I don't > see how a supervisor will have reason >to correct me for identifying > myself as long >as I am professional and politically correct >when > referring to clients. They can correct >me all they want if I call a > child I'm working >with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm >saying, > "As a blind person I..." and they call >me out on it, I'm likely to > explain why I >prefer identity first language and liken it to >Deaf with > a capital D instead of hearing >impaired, and other such examples. > > I accept >it is the right thing to do in clinical work, >and want to set > a good example for others I >might meet as a professional, but that is > >separate from my personal beliefs and how I want >to be > treated/referred to. You're right, you >do have to separate personal > from professional >and if people take issue with what I call myself >and > not my clients, then that's them not >separating the two, not I. > >> On 7/25/15, >Caitlin Best via nabs-l >wrote: >> I work for the army and the equal >opportunity office for roughly 5 years, so >> I >had a great deal of death employees come into my >office. Most deaf people >> are very proud of >their culture and their community and you don't >even >> consider themselves to have a >disability. They do preferred to use a D ­ a >D >> to describe themselves. Also, using hearing >impairment is very >> disrespectful. Most >preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death >because >> that is how they see >themselves. >> >> As for other disability >language, I would just rolled with whatever >the >> person or people are comfortable >with. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul >25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l > >>> wrote: >>> >>> Justin, >the idea that you know better what someone >should be called than >>> they do themselves >seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of >idea >>> that others know how we should live our >lives better than we do a large >>> part of what >we in the NFB and other disability rights >organizations spend >>> our time fighting. Also >I happen to know that there are a lot of >deaf >>> people who consider themselves Deaf >with a capital d and are very proud of >>> their >culture. Calling them "persons with hearing >impairments" or >>> something similar is >extremely disrespectful. >>> >>> ----- Original >Message ----- >>> From: justin williams via >nabs-l >> To: "'National >Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >>> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul >2015 13:04:08 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] >Disability Language >>> >>> While operating in >the field, I am careful to set the best example >for my >>> consumer. Often times, consumers use >names such as physically disabled, or >>> deaf, >or something such as that. They use the >terminology given to them >>> by >>> those who >while well meaning, are not in touch with the >day to day >>> maneusha >>> which goes along >with having a disability. I am careful to >usualy stay in >>> the professional guidelines >unless doing so will cause undo >stress. I've >>> noticed that when I use person >first language, the consumer becomes more >>> >empowered and is more inclined to take control >of their life. >>> >>> -----Original >Message----- >>> From: nabs-l >[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >Arielle >>> Silverman via nabs-l >>> Sent: >Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >>> To: >National Association of Blind Students mailing >list >> Cc: Arielle >Silverman >> Subject: >[nabs-l] Disability Language >>> >>> Hi Kaiti >and all. I read an article recently about >disability language >>> which >>> was published >in the journal American Psychologist and >authored by Dana >>> Dunn, a prominent >disability psychologist. Basically, the >article >>> described >>> how language >preferences are changing. As others have pointed >out, there >>> is >>> a lot of debate about >whether to use person-first ("person who is >blind") >>> or >>> identity-first ("blind >person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >>> >clinicians >>> should simply ask clients what >term they prefer and use those terms >>> >(honoring different clients with different >terms, if necessary). So you >>> would not >automatically need to call your client a person >with a >>> disability >>> unless he/she >explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed >that the >>> vast >>> majority of people I >meet/exchange emails with who have autism want >to be >>> called "autistic people" and the only >people I know who use the term >>> "people >>> >with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I >regularly use the term >>> "autistic >>> person" >because that seems to be the majority preference >for those who are >>> actually part of that >group. If a particular autistic person or >family >>> objects, then I will switch to their >term of choice. I also use the term >>> "blind >person" to describe myself and others in the >blindness community. >>> When I talk to parents >of blind children, I try to listen to their >terms >>> and >>> follow their language (even if >it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring >>> >language and building common language is a part >of building rapport and >>> trust with >others. >>> Arielle >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ > > >> nabs-l mailing list >>> >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ > > >> nabs-l mailing list >>> >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > >>> il.com >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ > > >> nabs-l mailing list >>> >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com > >> >> >_______________________________________________ > > > nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of >Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio >Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > >Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind >Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You >can live the life you want; blindness is not >what holds you back!" > > >_______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for nabs-l: > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get >your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From bridgetawalker13 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 03:48:47 2015 From: bridgetawalker13 at aol.com (Bridget Walker) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 23:48:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8EC8CA3F-E2D2-4A75-A0AC-79E31FF9C179@aol.com> Maybe I feel weird about this topic because I know I wasn't born blind. To me, being called visually impaired is down right disrespectful because it sets an expectation that I should be able to see more then I can. I can't stand to be called a blind person because I was and will ALWAYS be a person before a disability. Blindness is not the characteristic that defines me so, why would I give myself the label before identifying myself as a person just like any other individual. I don't say I'm a TBI person because I have a brain injury. I am a person who just so happens to have a TBI. Honestly, when people get on the whole blind VI legally blind thing I just want to tell them I forget I'm can't see most of the time. My blindness is nothing compared to what I've been through. I'm over it! Why let it be the defining characteristic of my life? Bridget Sent from my iPad > On Jul 25, 27 Heisei, at 9:18 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > I know a music therapist who I volunteer under, and she sets a great > example of this. I don't think she shies away from talking about her > blindness at all, especially as her primary population is blind > children and children with multiple disabilities. Years ago when I > saw her for braille music lessons that was very helpful to me. She > was someone I could go to for things outside of music because I could > relate to her, and at the time she was the only blind adult my family > and I knew. As I got older and started volunteering with her, I saw > how important it was to be attentive to the needs and wants of > different families she worked with. While one client might readily > identify themselves as blind, and their parents as well, another would > say "visually impaired." She was always very perceptive and > respectful of individual choices in terminology, but never shied away > from calling herself a blind person in conversation from what I > observed. I volunteered under her for several hours at a time once a > month for four years, and still do so when I have a break that lines > up with her sessions. > > I very much so think that the human services professions leave a lot > to be desired for those of us with disabilities who are aspiring > practitioners. That umbrella of professions from what I've observed > just hasn't caught up with the notion of the helpees being the helpers > alongside the able-bodied professionals yet. There is only one way > that we're going to make this lapse in understanding better, and that > is if we educate them through our example. I personally think that > anyone working in a disability field needs to seriously take time to > learn what the daily minute details of life are like for the people > they serve so that situations where the professional has no clue what > is really best for their client can be avoided. I also think that > agencies across the subfields of human services won't think they have > the time, money, or reason to require their employees to work that > hard to understand their clientelle. The best way we can change the > status quo is if we get in there and show them how to approach this > and situations like it. It is disrespectful to assume that everyone > who can't hear wants to be called "hearing impaired," or "a person who > is deaf." Arielle's example about Autism, and what some feel about > blindness, are further examples that discredit the idea that first > person language is the only way to go. > > I don't know about other human services students, but I've been taught > that therapy is all about trying creative solutions to best suit the > needs of the individual. This one-size-fits-all approach to > referencing disabilities isn't current, as I'm sure the article > Arielle posted in the beginning and others attest. Another crucial > part of therapy, no matter what type, is establishing rapport and a > therapeutic connection with clients. I want the kids I will work with > to ask me questions about their disabilities or my own so that they > can come to a better understanding of myself. I feel more comfortable > and less stuffy when I'm referred to as "a blind person," and perhaps > that might do a client of mine some good in the future. If they see a > confident and productive adult who is comfortable in their own skin > they'll be more likely to ask questions and share thoughts on their > own disability or condition. It happened with me and the music > therapist I mentioned earlier, and I doubt that was a rare case. > >> On 7/25/15, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l wrote: >> Hi all. We all know that historically the blindness professions have >> often been out of touch with what blind people actually want. I would >> argue that what a "professional" thinks we should say is far less >> important than what our clients want to be called. After all, isn't >> professionalism, in the end, about pleasing and respecting the >> customer? As others have mentioned, I am aware that many (though not >> all) Deaf people call themselves Deaf with a capital D. So, that's the >> term I'll use unless a specific deaf individual prefers different >> terms. To be an empowering professional service provider, I think it >> is so critically important to research and understand the preferences >> of the communities you are serving. After all, that's what we >> rightfully expect out of blindness professionals who serve us. >> Best, Arielle >> >>> On 7/25/15, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: >>> I share a similar experience, working here in the independent living >>> movement. I always use the politically correct language when referring to >>> other people, and when at professional functions, but I am always a blind >>> person, not a person who is blind. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Personally, what Caitlin just said extends to me even as a student in >>>> a clinical field. I may be corrected in the future, but if I don't >>>> see how a supervisor will have reason to correct me for identifying >>>> myself as long as I am professional and politically correct when >>>> referring to clients. They can correct me all they want if I call a >>>> child I'm working with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm saying, >>>> "As a blind person I..." and they call me out on it, I'm likely to >>>> explain why I prefer identity first language and liken it to Deaf with >>>> a capital D instead of hearing impaired, and other such examples. >>>> >>>> I accept it is the right thing to do in clinical work, and want to set >>>> a good example for others I might meet as a professional, but that is >>>> separate from my personal beliefs and how I want to be >>>> treated/referred to. You're right, you do have to separate personal >>>> from professional and if people take issue with what I call myself and >>>> not my clients, then that's them not separating the two, not I. >>>> >>>>> On 7/25/15, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >>>>> I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 >>>>> years, >>>>> so >>>>> I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. Most deaf >>>>> people >>>>> are very proud of their culture and their community and you don't even >>>>> consider themselves to have a disability. They do preferred to use a D – >>>>> a D >>>>> to describe themselves. Also, using hearing impairment is very >>>>> disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death >>>>> because >>>>> that is how they see themselves. >>>>> >>>>> As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever the >>>>> person or people are comfortable with. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called >>>>>> than >>>>>> they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea >>>>>> that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large >>>>>> part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations >>>>>> spend >>>>>> our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >>>>>> people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud >>>>>> of >>>>>> their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or >>>>>> something similar is extremely disrespectful. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: justin williams via nabs-l >>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>>>> >>>>> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>>>>> >>>>>> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for >>>>>> my >>>>>> consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, >>>>>> or >>>>>> deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to >>>>>> them >>>>>> by >>>>>> those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day >>>>>> maneusha >>>>>> which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay >>>>>> in >>>>>> the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. >>>>>> I've >>>>>> noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes >>>>>> more >>>>>> empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle >>>>>> Silverman via nabs-l >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>>> >>>>> Cc: Arielle Silverman >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language >>>>>> which >>>>>> was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana >>>>>> Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article >>>>>> described >>>>>> how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, >>>>>> there >>>>>> is >>>>>> a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is >>>>>> blind") >>>>>> or >>>>>> identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >>>>>> clinicians >>>>>> should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms >>>>>> (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you >>>>>> would not automatically need to call your client a person with a >>>>>> disability >>>>>> unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the >>>>>> vast >>>>>> majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to >>>>>> be >>>>>> called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term >>>>>> "people >>>>>> with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term >>>>>> "autistic >>>>>> person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who >>>>>> are >>>>>> actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family >>>>>> objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the >>>>>> term >>>>>> "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness >>>>>> community. >>>>>> When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their >>>>>> terms >>>>>> and >>>>>> follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think >>>>>> honoring >>>>>> language and building common language is a part of building rapport and >>>>>> trust with others. >>>>>> Arielle >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> nabs-l: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>>>> ms2%40gmail >>>>>> .com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> nabs-l: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>>>> il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> nabs-l: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> nabs-l: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kaiti Shelton >>>> University of Dayton-Music Therapy >>>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present >>>> Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts >>>> Division 2015-2016 >>>> >>>> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bridgetawalker13%40aol.com From blindstein at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 04:00:19 2015 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:00:19 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <55b457a2.c4296b0a.f8cf.ffffe805SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> <55b457a2.c4296b0a.f8cf.ffffe805SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <64022768-D6A2-4B86-B00E-F9DEC082C499@gmail.com> Maybe you could expand on what you are trying to get at. > On Jul 25, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Carly Mihalakis wrote: > > Evening, Justin, > > Sounds like you view your own experience, as removed from other blind ones? > Am I understanding this right? Why then not just call everyone blind people, for that's what we will remain? > Car At 03:18 PM 7/25/2015, Justin Harford via nabs-l wrote: >> I share a similar experience, working here in the independent living movement. I always use the politically correct language when referring to other people, and when at professional functions, but I am always a blind person, not a person who is blind. > On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > Personally, what Caitlin just said extends to me even as a student in > a clinical field. I may be corrected in the future, but if I don't > see how a supervisor will have reason to correct me for identifying > myself as long as I am professional and politically correct when > referring to clients. They can correct me all they want if I call a > child I'm working with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm saying, > "As a blind person I..." and they call me out on it, I'm likely to > explain why I prefer identity first language and liken it to Deaf with > a capital D instead of hearing impaired, and other such examples. > > I accept it is the right thing to do in clinical work, and want to set > a good example for others I might meet as a professional, but that is > separate from my personal beliefs and how I want to be > treated/referred to. You're right, you do have to separate personal > from professional and if people take issue with what I call myself and > not my clients, then that's them not separating the two, not I. > >> On 7/25/15, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >> I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 years, so >> I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. Most deaf people >> are very proud of their culture and their community and you don't even >> consider themselves to have a disability. They do preferred to use a D ­ a D >> to describe themselves. Also, using hearing impairment is very >> disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard of hearing or simply death because >> that is how they see themselves. >> >> As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever the >> person or people are comfortable with. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l >>> wrote: >>> >>> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called than >>> they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort of idea >>> that others know how we should live our lives better than we do a large >>> part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights organizations spend >>> our time fighting. Also I happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >>> people who consider themselves Deaf with a capital d and are very proud of >>> their culture. Calling them "persons with hearing impairments" or >>> something similar is extremely disrespectful. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: justin williams via nabs-l >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>> >>> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my >>> consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or >>> deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them >>> by >>> those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day >>> maneusha >>> which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in >>> the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've >>> noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more >>> empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle >>> Silverman via nabs-l >>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Arielle Silverman >> Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>> >>> Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language >>> which >>> was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana >>> Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article >>> described >>> how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there >>> is >>> a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") >>> or >>> identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >>> clinicians >>> should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms >>> (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you >>> would not automatically need to call your client a person with a >>> disability >>> unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the >>> vast >>> majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be >>> called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term >>> "people >>> with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term >>> "autistic >>> person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are >>> actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family >>> objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term >>> "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. >>> When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms >>> and >>> follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring >>> language and building common language is a part of building rapport and >>> trust with others. >>> Arielle >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present > Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts > Division 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net > > From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 17:50:12 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:50:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [blindkid] Information to help you prepare for school and future References: Message-ID: <435E9188-F059-4B61-A316-4AFD08B43668@gmail.com> Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dr. Denise M Robinson via blindkid" > Date: July 26, 2015 at 1:11:15 PM EDT > To: Discussion about issues related to blindness , "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)" > Cc: "Dr. Denise M Robinson" > Subject: [blindkid] Information to help you prepare for school and future > Reply-To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)" > > Looking for a Teacher of the Blind position or any other job? 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Read: What technology does your child or students need > to learn today-- to be prepared for tomorrow’s job market? > > > > > In addition, make sure you are learning how to use cloud based skills as > the world is in The era of cloud computing > > and moving fast in this direction of sharing and working in the cloud and > moving away from hard drives: Students need to be collaborating online with > peers and sharing docs on demand. Watch as a student accesses google drive > and moves around a virtual document: Google drive ease of access with > talking software > > > > > If you want to learn a foreign language https://www.duolingo.com/ is > completely accessible with keyboard commands and tricks and once you enable > flash (yes, its dialog box is accessible also to enable it), you can even > do the speaking lessons and have duolingo check your pronunciation. 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Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. > CEO, TechVision, LLC > Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual > instruction for schools > Also Private training to your needs > 423-573-6413 > > Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office > products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with > keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com > _______________________________________________ > blindkid mailing list > blindkid at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindkid: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From carlymih at comcast.net Sun Jul 26 20:00:11 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:00:11 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh my God! a culture boasting values like cultural cohesion and group feeling? From what I've heard, deaf people know about sustaining those cultural strands. Good on them! Could blind F.U.X., too, imagine such a solidarity? Carlandsca aalso 11:18 AM 7/25/2015, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >I work for the army and the equal opportunity >office for roughly 5 years, so I had a great >deal of death employees come into my office. >Most deaf people are very proud of their culture >and their community and you don't even consider >themselves to have a disability. They do >preferred to use a D ­ a D to describe >themselves. Also, using heaaring impairment is >very disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard >of hearing or simply death because that is how >they see themselves. As for other disability >language, I would just rolled with whatever the >person or people are comfortable with. Sent from >my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl >Martin Adam via nabs-l >wrote: > > Justin, the idea that you know better >what someone should be called than they do >themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't >that sort of idea that others know how we should >live our lives better than we do a large part of >what we in the NFB and other disability rights >organizations spend our time fighting. Also I >happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >people who consider themselves Deaf with a >capital d and are very proud of their >culture. Calling them "persons with hearing >impairments" or something similar is extremely >disrespectful. > > ----- Original Message >----- > From: justin williams via nabs-l > To: "'National Association >of Blind Students mailing list'" > Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 >13:04:08 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] >Disability Language > > While operating in the >field, I am careful to set the best example for >my > consumer. Often times, consumers use names >such as physically disabled, or > deaf, or >something such as that. They use the >terminology given to them by > those who while >well meaning, are not in touch with the day to >day maneusha > which goes along with having a >disability. I am careful to usualy stay in > >the professional guidelines unless doing so will >cause undo stress. I've > noticed that when I >use person first language, the consumer becomes >more > empowered and is more inclined to take >control of their life. > > -----Original >Message----- > From: nabs-l >[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >Arielle > Silverman via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, >July 25, 2015 12:57 AM > To: National >Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Arielle Silverman > Subject: [nabs-l] >Disability Language > > Hi Kaiti and all. I read >an article recently about disability language >which > was published in the journal American >Psychologist and authored by Dana > Dunn, a >prominent disability psychologist. Basically, >the article described > how language preferences >are changing. As others have pointed out, there >is > a lot of debate about whether to use >person-first ("person who is blind") or > >identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn >recommends is that clinicians > should simply >ask clients what term they prefer and use those >terms > (honoring different clients with >different terms, if necessary). So you > would >not automatically need to call your client a >person with a disability > unless he/she >explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed >that the vast > majority of people I >meet/exchange emails with who have autism want >to be > called "autistic people" and the only >people I know who use the term "people > with >autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly >use the term "autistic > person" because that >seems to be the majority preference for those >who are > actually part of that group. If a >particular autistic person or family > objects, >then I will switch to their term of choice. I >also use the term > "blind person" to describe >myself and others in the blindness community. > >When I talk to parents of blind children, I try >to listen to their terms and > follow their >language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I >think honoring > language and building common >language is a part of building rapport and > >trust with others. > Arielle > > >_______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for > nabs-l: > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > > ms2%40gmail > .com > > > >_______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for nabs-l: > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > > il.com > > >_______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >get your account info for nabs-l: > >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get >your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 20:11:08 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 16:11:08 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <55b53c5d.5c15370a.b2314.5e88SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> <55b53c5d.5c15370a.b2314.5e88SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Well, Car, I believe some of us do. It's no different from the Deaf community where people can choose to be a part of it or not; some blind people feel this way and others don't. Back on the topic at hand, though, blindness isn't what defines us, so why would we hide from it? If it defines us so that we need to hide behind the agency-accepted labeling system and avoid using the term first then I think that's a bigger issue, at least in my case, than being forthright and open about it. Of course everyone will and should go with what feels most natural to them as we've been saying in this thread, but that's how I personally feel about it. We're all people, but think about it this way; everyone uses identity language. I've never heard, "A person who is black/African American" before because even those in that category would find it odd and silly. On facebook and other social media I see people of different races identifying themselves as a black/Mexican/Hispanic/Latino/White/Asian person all the time. If we are just like them and our disabilities are as inconsequential as we say they are, then why is it so taboo to identify ourselves by a characteristic that binds us together with other people? On 7/26/15, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote: > Oh my God! a culture boasting values like > cultural cohesion and group feeling? From what > I've heard, deaf people know about sustaining > those cultural strands. Good on them! Could blind > F.U.X., too, imagine such a solidarity? > Carlandsca aalso 11:18 AM 7/25/2015, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >>I work for the army and the equal opportunity >>office for roughly 5 years, so I had a great >>deal of death employees come into my office. >>Most deaf people are very proud of their culture >>and their community and you don't even consider >>themselves to have a disability. They do >>preferred to use a D ­ a D to describe >>themselves. Also, using heaaring impairment is >>very disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard >>of hearing or simply death because that is how >>they see themselves. As for other disability >>language, I would just rolled with whatever the >>person or people are comfortable with. Sent from >>my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl >>Martin Adam via nabs-l >>wrote: > > Justin, the idea that you know better >>what someone should be called than they do >>themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't >>that sort of idea that others know how we should >>live our lives better than we do a large part of >>what we in the NFB and other disability rights >>organizations spend our time fighting. Also I >>happen to know that there are a lot of deaf >>people who consider themselves Deaf with a >>capital d and are very proud of their >>culture. Calling them "persons with hearing >>impairments" or something similar is extremely >>disrespectful. > > ----- Original Message >>----- > From: justin williams via nabs-l >> To: "'National Association >>of Blind Students mailing list'" >> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 >>13:04:08 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] >>Disability Language > > While operating in the >>field, I am careful to set the best example for >>my > consumer. Often times, consumers use names >>such as physically disabled, or > deaf, or >>something such as that. They use the >>terminology given to them by > those who while >>well meaning, are not in touch with the day to >>day maneusha > which goes along with having a >>disability. I am careful to usualy stay in > >>the professional guidelines unless doing so will >>cause undo stress. I've > noticed that when I >>use person first language, the consumer becomes >>more > empowered and is more inclined to take >>control of their life. > > -----Original >>Message----- > From: nabs-l >>[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>Arielle > Silverman via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, >>July 25, 2015 12:57 AM > To: National >>Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Arielle Silverman >> Subject: [nabs-l] >>Disability Language > > Hi Kaiti and all. I read >>an article recently about disability language >>which > was published in the journal American >>Psychologist and authored by Dana > Dunn, a >>prominent disability psychologist. Basically, >>the article described > how language preferences >>are changing. As others have pointed out, there >>is > a lot of debate about whether to use >>person-first ("person who is blind") or > >>identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn >>recommends is that clinicians > should simply >>ask clients what term they prefer and use those >>terms > (honoring different clients with >>different terms, if necessary). So you > would >>not automatically need to call your client a >>person with a disability > unless he/she >>explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed >>that the vast > majority of people I >>meet/exchange emails with who have autism want >>to be > called "autistic people" and the only >>people I know who use the term "people > with >>autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly >>use the term "autistic > person" because that >>seems to be the majority preference for those >>who are > actually part of that group. If a >>particular autistic person or family > objects, >>then I will switch to their term of choice. I >>also use the term > "blind person" to describe >>myself and others in the blindness community. > >>When I talk to parents of blind children, I try >>to listen to their terms and > follow their >>language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I >>think honoring > language and building common >>language is a part of building rapport and > >>trust with others. > Arielle > > >>_______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >>get your account info for > nabs-l: > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >> > ms2%40gmail > .com > > > >>_______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >>get your account info for nabs-l: > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >> > il.com > > >>_______________________________________________ > >> nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or >>get your account info for nabs-l: > >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com >>_______________________________________________ >>nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get >>your account info for nabs-l: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 21:18:45 2015 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 17:18:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> References: <55b3cc93.1443320a.1984.4be0@mx.google.com> <54D4328D-5544-40FA-AA00-9F6C570EC23D@gmail.com> <9482614D-D26F-44A5-B5F3-38E3316B8937@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401d0c7e8$a8711df0$f95359d0$@gmail.com> I just define myself as a person. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Harford via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 6:19 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Justin Harford Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language I share a similar experience, working here in the independent living movement. I always use the politically correct language when referring to other people, and when at professional functions, but I am always a blind person, not a person who is blind. > On Jul 25, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l wrote: > > Personally, what Caitlin just said extends to me even as a student in > a clinical field. I may be corrected in the future, but if I don't > see how a supervisor will have reason to correct me for identifying > myself as long as I am professional and politically correct when > referring to clients. They can correct me all they want if I call a > child I'm working with, "One of my blind kiddos," but if I'm saying, > "As a blind person I..." and they call me out on it, I'm likely to > explain why I prefer identity first language and liken it to Deaf with > a capital D instead of hearing impaired, and other such examples. > > I accept it is the right thing to do in clinical work, and want to set > a good example for others I might meet as a professional, but that is > separate from my personal beliefs and how I want to be > treated/referred to. You're right, you do have to separate personal > from professional and if people take issue with what I call myself and > not my clients, then that's them not separating the two, not I. > >> On 7/25/15, Caitlin Best via nabs-l wrote: >> I work for the army and the equal opportunity office for roughly 5 >> years, so I had a great deal of death employees come into my office. >> Most deaf people are very proud of their culture and their community >> and you don't even consider themselves to have a disability. They do >> preferred to use a D – a D to describe themselves. Also, using >> hearing impairment is very disrespectful. Most preferred to use hard >> of hearing or simply death because that is how they see themselves. >> >> As for other disability language, I would just rolled with whatever >> the person or people are comfortable with. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:50, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Justin, the idea that you know better what someone should be called >>> than they do themselves seems awfully patronizing. Isn't that sort >>> of idea that others know how we should live our lives better than we >>> do a large part of what we in the NFB and other disability rights >>> organizations spend our time fighting. Also I happen to know that >>> there are a lot of deaf people who consider themselves Deaf with a >>> capital d and are very proud of their culture. Calling them >>> "persons with hearing impairments" or something similar is extremely disrespectful. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: justin williams via nabs-l >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:04:08 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>> >>> While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example >>> for my consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically >>> disabled, or deaf, or something such as that. They use the >>> terminology given to them by those who while well meaning, are not >>> in touch with the day to day maneusha which goes along with having a >>> disability. I am careful to usualy stay in the professional >>> guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've noticed >>> that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more >>> empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle >>> Silverman via nabs-l >>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Cc: Arielle Silverman >> Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language >>> >>> Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability >>> language which was published in the journal American Psychologist >>> and authored by Dana Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. >>> Basically, the article described how language preferences are >>> changing. As others have pointed out, there is a lot of debate about >>> whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") or >>> identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that >>> clinicians should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use >>> those terms (honoring different clients with different terms, if >>> necessary). So you would not automatically need to call your client >>> a person with a disability unless he/she explicitly prefers that >>> language. I have noticed that the vast majority of people I >>> meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be called >>> "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term >>> "people with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use >>> the term "autistic person" because that seems to be the majority >>> preference for those who are actually part of that group. If a >>> particular autistic person or family objects, then I will switch to >>> their term of choice. I also use the term "blind person" to describe >>> myself and others in the blindness community. >>> When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their >>> terms and follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). >>> I think honoring language and building common language is a part of >>> building rapport and trust with others. >>> Arielle >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail >>> .com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104 >> %40gmail.com > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton > University of Dayton-Music Therapy > President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, > The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division > 2015-2016 > > "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail > .com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Mon Jul 27 00:48:15 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:48:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship applicationprocess? In-Reply-To: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3CA99177177C4D0B9D9355B13550DF3A@OwnerPC> Miso, good luck in getting the internship you want! There are pros and cons to disclosing your disability up front. I'd say if you are working for a blindness or disability organization, then disclose up front. You could talk about your involvement in NFB on your cover letter and demonstrate leadership and advocaty skills on your resume through your membership in NFB. You could mention it in the cover letter as a positive thing. However, if it’s a general job, I'd not disclose till the interview or job offer. In my case with internships, I have always gotten a phone call or email to either interview me or accept a position. At this point before they see me face to face, I disclose my legal blindness and explain I need accomodations. This is a good thing to tell them so they are not shocked to see someone who cannot see much upon seeing them in the interview. Also, if I am just starting the job, they really need to know my assistive tech accomodations, so I feel I need to disclose my disability and my needs. I'd say do what is right and consider it a case by case basis. You might disclose earlier to one agency than others. I got my current part time job by knowing people and I'm a tutor at the writing center so they knew my disability which was not an issue. Good luck! Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Miso Kwak via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship applicationprocess? Hello everyone, What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. Would you do it on case by case basis? For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Mon Jul 27 00:57:37 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 20:57:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internshipapplication process? In-Reply-To: <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Justin, I agree and you said what I do. I tell before the interview for the same reasons. I might need accomodations to fill out paperwork at the interview via a reader or might need more specific directions to the room to do the interview. So I think it works in our favor to disclose before face to face meetings. But, yeah, you do not have to legally do it but blindness will be an obvious disability when they see you. And, I think it will go smoother if they know your needs and disability ahead of time. but it could also be a way to discriminate. But I think the pros outweight the cons. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 7:25 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: justin williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internshipapplication process? What you just said is exactly how I would do it. In most cases, it does not serve you to reveal the fact that you have a visual disability, or a disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to disclose such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, if you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that is best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I hope this helps. Justin. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application process? Hello everyone, What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to internships and/or jobs? I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it once, but I had an easy way. My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about when and how to disclose my blindness. I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to complete one of my minor requirements. So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that I am blind. Would you do it on case by case basis? For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From gpaikens at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 01:52:23 2015 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:52:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internshipapplication process? In-Reply-To: References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35041CFD-C2F3-4175-86C2-0A6FB2D8EBE4@gmail.com> This has been a very interesting thread. Before reading the opinions of others, I would not have described including blindness related activities on my resume as “disclosing” my blindness. I agree with others who say that one resume is the way to go. I include all of my activities, blindness related or not, because they describe my accomplishments, skill sets, etc. To leave these things off would feel dishonest and like I was going out of my way to hide something. Yet, in my mind, I have not directly disclosed to them that I am blind. Sure, the savvy reader will make inferences, but that’s ok. I’m not trying to hide my blindness but neither am I making a big deal about it. In my opinion, the cover letter is where you have to make more of a decision as to whether or not you want to include your blindness, particularly since it is a description of your experiences. You have far more flexibility in how you present yourself. My guidance would be to mention blindness if and when it is relevant and hopefully as something that has prepared you to do this job well. Your cover letter is not the place to talk about how you might need accommodations etc. Just another guy’s take on it. Best of luck Miso and all. -Greg > On Jul 26, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote: > > Justin, > I agree and you said what I do. > I tell before the interview for the same reasons. > I might need accomodations to fill out paperwork at the interview via a reader or might need more specific directions to the room to do the interview. So I think it works in our favor to disclose before face to face meetings. But, yeah, you do not have to legally do it but blindness will be an obvious disability when they see you. And, I think it will go smoother if they know your needs and disability ahead of time. but it could also be a way to discriminate. But I think the pros outweight the cons. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 7:25 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: justin williams > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internshipapplication process? > > What you just said is exactly how I would do it. In most cases, it does not > serve you to reveal the fact that you have a visual disability, or a > disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to disclose > such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, > and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, if > you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in > other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before > you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance > of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better > access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are > interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can > just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that is > best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an > accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then > you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I > hope this helps. > > Justin. > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > nabs-l > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application > process? > > Hello everyone, > What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to > internships and/or jobs? > I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it > once, but I had an easy way. > My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making an > accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a > blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about > when and how to disclose my blindness. > I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one to > complete one of my minor requirements. > So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing that > I am blind. > Would you do it on case by case basis? > For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves > blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were > applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? > I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Mon Jul 27 02:14:53 2015 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 22:14:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <00eb01d0c6fb$ec9a98f0$c5cfcad0$@gmail.com> References: <00eb01d0c6fb$ec9a98f0$c5cfcad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <970EA629B2B6473082DBABF7EA860182@OwnerPC> Hi, I prefer indentity first language. We never say person who is black or person who is grey haired. We do not say person with curly hair. Yet with disabilities we say people with disabilities or people with autism, CP, or whatever the disability is. Its strange to me this person first language. We do not do that with other races, ages or ethnicities but yet it’s the politically correct thing to do with disabilities. Personally with usable vision, I like visually impaired, low vision, or legally blind. But I'm not offended by people saying blind person to me. I do understand why they say the person first but its annoying. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:04 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: justin williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them by those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day maneusha which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Arielle Silverman Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language which was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article described how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there is a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") or identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that clinicians should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you would not automatically need to call your client a person with a disability unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the vast majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term "people with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term "autistic person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms and follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring language and building common language is a part of building rapport and trust with others. Arielle _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From arielle71 at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 22:16:27 2015 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:16:27 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internshipapplication process? In-Reply-To: <35041CFD-C2F3-4175-86C2-0A6FB2D8EBE4@gmail.com> References: <8D293F7103DF0EE-E60-22A347@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> <023101d0c603$6a5dd440$3f197cc0$@gmail.com> <35041CFD-C2F3-4175-86C2-0A6FB2D8EBE4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Also, keep in mind that people unfamiliar with blindness might think that "National Federation of the Blind" is an organization serving blind people, not an organization made up of blind people. So, some people might not automatically understand that being active in the NFB means you are blind. Arielle On 7/26/15, Greg Aikens via nabs-l wrote: > This has been a very interesting thread. Before reading the opinions of > others, I would not have described including blindness related activities on > my resume as “disclosing” my blindness. > > I agree with others who say that one resume is the way to go. I include all > of my activities, blindness related or not, because they describe my > accomplishments, skill sets, etc. To leave these things off would feel > dishonest and like I was going out of my way to hide something. Yet, in my > mind, I have not directly disclosed to them that I am blind. Sure, the savvy > reader will make inferences, but that’s ok. I’m not trying to hide my > blindness but neither am I making a big deal about it. > > In my opinion, the cover letter is where you have to make more of a decision > as to whether or not you want to include your blindness, particularly since > it is a description of your experiences. You have far more flexibility in > how you present yourself. My guidance would be to mention blindness if and > when it is relevant and hopefully as something that has prepared you to do > this job well. Your cover letter is not the place to talk about how you > might need accommodations etc. > > Just another guy’s take on it. > > Best of luck Miso and all. > > -Greg > >> On Jul 26, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l >> wrote: >> >> Justin, >> I agree and you said what I do. >> I tell before the interview for the same reasons. >> I might need accomodations to fill out paperwork at the interview via a >> reader or might need more specific directions to the room to do the >> interview. So I think it works in our favor to disclose before face to >> face meetings. But, yeah, you do not have to legally do it but blindness >> will be an obvious disability when they see you. And, I think it will go >> smoother if they know your needs and disability ahead of time. but it >> could also be a way to discriminate. But I think the pros outweight the >> cons. >> >> Ashley >> >> -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 7:25 AM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: justin williams >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on >> job/internshipapplication process? >> >> What you just said is exactly how I would do it. In most cases, it does >> not >> serve you to reveal the fact that you have a visual disability, or a >> disability of any sort. However, some situations do benefit you to >> disclose >> such. Usually, I wouldn't disclose until you have the interview for sure, >> and I wouldn't do that unless my disability was obvious upon sight. So, >> if >> you have a cane, dog, or something to indicate you have a disability, in >> other words, your disability is not hidden, telling the interviewer before >> you arrive lessens the shock value, and at least gives you a better chance >> of having an honest interview. It also gives you the ability to better >> access whether or not the place in question is a good fit for you; you are >> interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you. Of course, you can >> just go to the interview not having told them anything if you think that >> is >> best, you are not required to disclose at all. If you are in need of an >> accommodation during the interview application or interview process, then >> you have to disclose in order to receive the appropriate accommodation. I >> hope this helps. >> >> Justin. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via >> nabs-l >> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 3:11 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: [nabs-l] Disclosing That I am Blind on job/internship application >> process? >> >> Hello everyone, >> What are your thoughts about disclosing our blindness when applying to >> internships and/or jobs? >> I currently have a job (which is my first official job) so I have done it >> once, but I had an easy way. >> My blindness was a major factor in being hired because I work for making >> an >> accessible campus map for my university. I got recruited because I was a >> blind student who was active on campus, so I did not have to think about >> when and how to disclose my blindness. >> I am currently applying to different internships with hope of getting one >> to >> complete one of my minor requirements. >> So I am a bit confused and concerned on how I should handle disclosing >> that >> I am blind. >> Would you do it on case by case basis? >> For instance, if you were applying to an organization that mainly serves >> blind client, would you disclose that you are blind, whereas, if you were >> applying for a corporate internship or a baby sitting job, you would not? >> I'd just like to hear your thoughts on this matter. >> Thank you in advance. >> Miso Kwak >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com > From Mister.Alexander.Scott.Kaiser at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 01:12:29 2015 From: Mister.Alexander.Scott.Kaiser at comcast.net (Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 21:12:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] unhappy with current government trends, vote liberterrian for 2016 American president Message-ID: To all ACB Members and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with republican and democratic legal governmental policies: Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely dissatisfied with the corrupt republican presidential wins and corrupt democrat election wins vote for a liberterrian as president because the new wave of liberterrianistic power can fix America and give opportunities to all disabled Americans to lead self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives From tyler at tysdomain.com Tue Jul 28 01:26:42 2015 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 21:26:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] unhappy with current government trends, vote liberterrian for 2016 American president In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55B6DA52.6000504@tysdomain.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 stop spamming lists with this, please and thanks. On 7/27/2015 9:12 PM, Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser via nabs-l wrote: > To all ACB Members and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with > republican and democratic legal governmental policies: > > Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely > dissatisfied with the corrupt republican presidential wins and > corrupt democrat election wins vote for a liberterrian as > president because the new wave of liberterrianistic power can fix > America and give opportunities to all disabled Americans to lead > self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives > > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing > list nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To > unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVttpSAAoJEAdP60+BYxejwHcH/jQHQCcrypVuSely9Y7iA5dv +IO/sEQGqglZA7p4UVIZfxOB2TJn9i3mhUQF1GquIP1lmxl6DAs8Q03c1Rg/0CLn CDsvquF8Csau6nL3vbaID4O5vJISALfE7xuxLwkULsGuSkhuvyauBeV22g/Fr4Xh gdFAkuE6veqZfKyuuAnrch46qEGFxshPam8lM7OpmaGNIsSxUtjDgKHYaV8oCZHA JI/AP2x9dyo9hF4eL1hGeFddE3TEVqMWgMRKjmES66ZK47YAOohGYYttYHt9SKqn BiUIw0lLQsBQs10C7+XZ7RiMl6xGalp0wnj2LkKu0/ovkel6CGw1kSFXVvrqBCI= =upKl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Tue Jul 28 01:29:18 2015 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 21:29:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] unhappy with current government trends, vote liberterrian for 2016 American president In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90E80B92-9839-4E8C-87E5-596E968F35E0@jd16.law.harvard.edu> This is 100% off topic and should not be responded to. Please do not engage this thread. Alex, please do not post political opinions divorced from disability advocacy to the NABS list. Also, please don't mix the ACB and NFB student list serves. The two groups are separate for a reason. Best regards Derek Manners NABS Treasurer. Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:12 PM, Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser via nabs-l wrote: > > To all ACB Members and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with republican > and democratic legal governmental policies: > > Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely dissatisfied with > the corrupt republican presidential wins and corrupt democrat election wins > vote for a liberterrian as president because the new wave of > liberterrianistic power can fix America and give opportunities to all > disabled Americans to lead self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From startrekcafe at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 04:46:55 2015 From: startrekcafe at gmail.com (Marvin Hunkin) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:16:55 +0930 Subject: [nabs-l] accessible design software Message-ID: <00ff01d0c8f0$7013dac0$503b9040$@gmail.com> Hi. Pasting an e-mail, from my lectuer. Have to do use, case, state and other diagrams. I am a blind it student, and this is a core subject. Any ideas. I use a screen reader jaws for windows from http://www.freedomscientific.com Any ideas, any software, which will help. Must be some software, that can design accessible diagrams. Any ideas. Marvin. Marvin, that is a shame. I understand that diagrams are visual representations, but to stop visually impaired from creating or using them is not great. There is a core Unit of Competency that is required to be completed for this qualification. The important part of this unit is. Elements and Performance Criteria ELEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA Elements describe the essential outcomes. Performance criteria describe the performance needed to demonstrate achievement of the element. 1. Derive high-level design from specification 1.1 Develop static class diagram from given set of specifications 1.2 Develop either collaboration diagram or sequence diagram from given set of specifications 1.3 Develop either activity diagram or state diagram from given set of specifications 2. Refine design 2.1 Investigate and refine behaviour, state of classes and collaboration between classes 2.2 Validate correct visibility of class services and state data 2.3 Identify generalisations within classes 2.4 Identify specialisations within classes 2.5 Apply principles of aggregation and composition to refine class design 3. Document design 3.1 Create detailed uniform modelling language (UML) static class diagrams 3.2 Create detailed UML collaboration or sequence diagrams 3.3 Create detailed UML activity or state diagrams If you have any thoughts about how you could address these requirements? May I suggest sending these requirements to some blind colleagues and see what they might suggest. Unfortunately, as this is a core unit of competence I am unable to change it to another unit. Let me know your thoughts. Regards, From: Marvin Hunkin [mailto:startrekcafe at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 10:34 AM To: Darrell Klar Subject: business needs assignment Hi. Well. No accessible diagram software, so how do I do this assignment. Unless, there are some more accessible ways to describe applications, or processes, unless, iuse the entity designer in visual studio. Any ideas. Did ask a few blind tech people on a few tech lists, but no answers yet. Marvin. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4401/10321 - Release Date: 07/27/15 This electronic mail/facsimile contains information that is privileged and confidential, intended only for use of the individual(s) named or addresses listed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, copying or use of the information is strictly prohibited. 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On 7/28/2015 12:46 AM, Marvin Hunkin via nabs-l wrote: > Hi. > > Pasting an e-mail, from my lectuer. > > Have to do use, case, state and other diagrams. > > I am a blind it student, and this is a core subject. > > Any ideas. > > I use a screen reader jaws for windows from > http://www.freedomscientific.com > > Any ideas, any software, which will help. > > Must be some software, that can design accessible diagrams. > > Any ideas. > > Marvin. > > > > Marvin, that is a shame. I understand that diagrams are visual > representations, but to stop visually impaired from creating or > using them is not great. > > > > There is a core Unit of Competency that is required to be completed > for this qualification. The important part of this unit is. > > Elements and Performance Criteria > > > ELEMENT > > PERFORMANCE CRITERIA > > > Elements describe the essential outcomes. > > Performance criteria describe the performance needed to > demonstrate achievement of the element. > > > 1. Derive high-level design from specification > > 1.1 Develop static class diagram from given set of specifications > > 1.2 Develop either collaboration diagram or sequence diagram from > given set of specifications > > 1.3 Develop either activity diagram or state diagram from given set > of specifications > > > 2. Refine design > > 2.1 Investigate and refine behaviour, state of classes and > collaboration between classes > > 2.2 Validate correct visibility of class services and state data > > 2.3 Identify generalisations within classes > > 2.4 Identify specialisations within classes > > 2.5 Apply principles of aggregation and composition to refine class > design > > > 3. Document design > > 3.1 Create detailed uniform modelling language (UML) static class > diagrams > > 3.2 Create detailed UML collaboration or sequence diagrams > > 3.3 Create detailed UML activity or state diagrams > > > > > > If you have any thoughts about how you could address these > requirements? May I suggest sending these requirements to some > blind colleagues and see what they might suggest. > > > > Unfortunately, as this is a core unit of competence I am unable to > change it to another unit. > > > > Let me know your thoughts. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > From: Marvin Hunkin [mailto:startrekcafe at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, > 28 July 2015 10:34 AM To: Darrell Klar Subject: business needs > assignment > > > > Hi. > > Well. > > No accessible diagram software, so how do I do this assignment. > > Unless, there are some more accessible ways to describe > applications, or processes, unless, iuse the entity designer in > visual studio. > > Any ideas. > > Did ask a few blind tech people on a few tech lists, but no answers > yet. > > Marvin. > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. 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From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 17:40:48 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:40:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] unhappy with current Republican governmental trends and democratic governmental trends , vote liberterrian for 2016 American president In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6457C82F-98D5-443F-9280-72FB8AD12CEB@gmail.com> This thread has been discontinued. Thank you, Kathryn Webster NABS Secretary Kathryn C. Webster (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2015, at 11:22 AM, Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser via nabs-l wrote: > > To all ACB Members who are dissatisfied with republican and democratic legal > governmental policies and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with > republican and democratic legal governmental policies: > > Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely dissatisfied with > the corrupt republican presidential wins and corrupt democrat election wins > vote for a liberterrian as president because the new wave of > liberterrianistic power can fix America and give opportunities to all > disabled Americans to lead self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives > > ____________________________________________________________ > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/manager > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gmail.com From carlymih at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 21:27:04 2015 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:27:04 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all In-Reply-To: <23ED1464-6ED3-4E40-B5E5-286AD35C0EA2@hotmail.com> References: <23ED1464-6ED3-4E40-B5E5-286AD35C0EA2@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Totally blind with light perception?09:27 PM 4/5/2015, Mabelin Ramirez via nabs-l wrote: >Hello all, for those whom remember me posting a >while ago, I’m back, but I changed my email. I >just wanted to introduce myself to those whom I >haven’t met yet, I hope everyone is well. I >wanted to also say that I’m very grateful NFB >has lists like these. I wanted to ask you all a >question as far as introducing myself. I use >KNFB Reader sometimes, or have started using it. >It’s a bit tricky for me since I have no >useable sight to read text and what not and >I’m not sure how to position my phone and >what not. I would like some help if you can. I >have an iPhone 6, 16 gb.. Please help if >possible. By the way I’m 21 years old and >totally blind with light perception. Talk soon >all, Take care and god bless. >_______________________________________________ >nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get >your account info for nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From kentreene at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 22:13:38 2015 From: kentreene at gmail.com (Kentreene) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:13:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all In-Reply-To: <55b7f8ce.092b370a.61dbe.ffffa11cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <23ED1464-6ED3-4E40-B5E5-286AD35C0EA2@hotmail.com> <55b7f8ce.092b370a.61dbe.ffffa11cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2FBDF74B-70F5-47AA-B076-FB69F194A19F@gmail.com> Hello Carly. Nice to meet you. My name is Kentreene and I am 24. I just joined the list this week. Unfortunately I do not know how to help you in that area. I also use the iPhone but I use voice over as a screen reader. :-) Kentreene Anderson > On Jul 28, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote: > > Totally blind with light perception?09:27 PM 4/5/2015, Mabelin Ramirez via nabs-l wrote: >> Hello all, for those whom remember me posting a while ago, I’m back, but I changed my email. I just wanted to introduce myself to those whom I haven’t met yet, I hope everyone is well. I wanted to also say that I’m very grateful NFB has lists like these. I wanted to ask you all a question as far as introducing myself. I use KNFB Reader sometimes, or have started using it. It’s a bit tricky for me since I have no useable sight to read text and what not and I’m not sure how to position my phone and what not. I would like some help if you can. I have an iPhone 6, 16 gb.. Please help if possible. By the way I’m 21 years old and totally blind with light perception. Talk soon all, Take care and god bless. _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kentreene%40gmail.com From mausbun at unr.edu Tue Jul 28 23:43:20 2015 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:43:20 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <970EA629B2B6473082DBABF7EA860182@OwnerPC> References: <00eb01d0c6fb$ec9a98f0$c5cfcad0$@gmail.com>, <970EA629B2B6473082DBABF7EA860182@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <4C950EAE-B495-45C4-8219-99F5A919D18A@unr.edu> Here is an interesting article with further information: http://www.thinkinclusive.us/why-person-first-language-doesnt-always-put-the-person-first/?utm_content=buffer6172b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=bufferWhat%27s Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l > wrote: Hi, I prefer indentity first language. We never say person who is black or person who is grey haired. We do not say person with curly hair. Yet with disabilities we say people with disabilities or people with autism, CP, or whatever the disability is. Its strange to me this person first language. We do not do that with other races, ages or ethnicities but yet it’s the politically correct thing to do with disabilities. Personally with usable vision, I like visually impaired, low vision, or legally blind. But I'm not offended by people saying blind person to me. I do understand why they say the person first but its annoying. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:04 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: justin williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best example for my consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically disabled, or deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given to them by those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to day maneusha which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to usualy stay in the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo stress. I've noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer becomes more empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via nabs-l Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Arielle Silverman > Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability language which was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored by Dana Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article described how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed out, there is a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is blind") or identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that clinicians should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those terms (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). So you would not automatically need to call your client a person with a disability unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed that the vast majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism want to be called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the term "people with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the term "autistic person" because that seems to be the majority preference for those who are actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or family objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use the term "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness community. When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to their terms and follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think honoring language and building common language is a part of building rapport and trust with others. Arielle _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr.edu From sweetpeareader at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 01:39:25 2015 From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:39:25 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language Message-ID: <55b82ed1.85d2b60a.6db7.66f3@mx.google.com> I=20replied=20to=20her.=20See=20below. Dear=20Ms.=20Kathy,=20I'm=20glad=20you=20enjoyed=20reading=20my=20travel=20= log=20as=20 much=20as=20I=20enjoyed=20writing=20it.=20The=20memories=20I=20ade=20while= =20on=20that=20 trip=20are=20memories=20I=20will=20keep=20for=20a=20lifetime.=20I=20can't=20= preserve=20 memories=20with=20photos=20and=20videos,=20so=20writing=20is=20how=20I=20do= =20it.=20It's=20 how=20I=20bring=20my=20memories=20and=20imagination=20to=20life. Yours=20sincerely, Sophie =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Michael=20D=20Ausbun=20via=20nabs-l=20>=20wrote: Hi, I=20prefer=20indentity=20first=20language. We=20never=20say=20person=20who=20is=20black=20or=20person=20=20who=20is=20= grey=20haired. We=20do=20not=20say=20person=20with=20curly=20hair. Yet=20with=20disabilities=20we=20say=20people=20with=20disabilities=20or=20= people=20 with=20autism,=20CP,=20or=20whatever=20the=20disability=20is. Its=20strange=20to=20me=20this=20person=20first=20language. We=20do=20not=20do=20that=20with=20other=20races,=20ages=20or=20ethnicities= =20but=20yet=20 it=92s=20the=20politically=20correct=20thing=20to=20do=20with disabilities. Personally=20with=20usable=20vision,=20I=20like=20visually=20impaired,=20lo= w=20 vision,=20or=20legally=20blind. But=20I'm=20not=20offended=20by=20people=20saying=20blind=20person=20to=20m= e. I=20do=20understand=20why=20they=20say=20the=20person=20first=20but=20its=20= annoying. Ashley -----Original=20Message-----=20From:=20justin=20williams=20via=20nabs-l Sent:=20Saturday,=20July=2025,=202015=201:04=20PM To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list' Cc:=20justin=20williams Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Disability=20Language While=20operating=20in=20the=20field,=20I=20am=20careful=20to=20set=20the=20= best=20 example=20for=20my consumer.=20Often=20times,=20consumers=20use=20names=20such=20as=20physical= ly=20 disabled,=20or deaf,=20or=20something=20such=20as=20that.=20=20They=20use=20the=20terminol= ogy=20given=20 to=20them=20by those=20who=20while=20well=20meaning,=20are=20not=20in=20touch=20with=20the= =20day=20to=20 day=20maneusha which=20goes=20along=20with=20having=20a=20disability.=20=20I=20am=20carefu= l=20to=20 usualy=20stay=20in the=20professional=20guidelines=20unless=20doing=20so=20will=20cause=20undo= =20 stress.=20=20I've noticed=20that=20when=20I=20use=20person=20first=20language,=20the=20consum= er=20 becomes=20more empowered=20and=20is=20more=20inclined=20to=20take=20control=20of=20their=20= life. -----Original=20Message----- From:=20nabs-l=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20 Arielle Silverman=20via=20nabs-l Sent:=20Saturday,=20July=2025,=202015=2012:57=20AM To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20 References: Message-ID: This message is inappropriate and off topic for all of our lists. Once again you have gotten yourself thrown off our lists. Dave At 08:12 PM 7/27/2015, Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser via nfb-talk wrote: >To all ACB Members and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with republican >and democratic legal governmental policies: > >Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely dissatisfied with >the corrupt republican presidential wins and corrupt democrat election wins >vote for a liberterrian as president because the new wave of >liberterrianistic power can fix America and give opportunities to all >disabled Americans to lead self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 05:09:28 2015 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:09:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language In-Reply-To: <55b82ed1.85d2b60a.6db7.66f3@mx.google.com> References: <55b82ed1.85d2b60a.6db7.66f3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks for posting this, Michael. I've actually emailed back and forth with the writer a bit for a project I'm involved with, and her blog is spot-on. I think this article nailed Identity-First Language on the head. Still, leave it to me to be a part of a counter-culture. :) I completely agree with the sentiment that if human services professionals working with disabled people/people with disabilities want to truly show understanding and compassion, they'll ask how the client/patient/student/etc wants to be referred to. On 7/28/15, Sophie Trist via nabs-l wrote: > I replied to her. See below. > Dear Ms. Kathy, I'm glad you enjoyed reading my travel log as > much as I enjoyed writing it. The memories I ade while on that > trip are memories I will keep for a lifetime. I can't preserve > memories with photos and videos, so writing is how I do it. It's > how I bring my memories and imagination to life. > > Yours sincerely, > Sophie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael D Ausbun via nabs-l To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:43:20 +0000 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language > > Here is an interesting article with further information: > http://www.thinkinclusive.us/why-person-first-language-doesnt-alw > ays-put-the-person-first/?utm_content=buffer6172b&utm_medium=soci > al&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=bufferWhat%27s > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 26, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l > > wrote: > > Hi, > I prefer indentity first language. > We never say person who is black or person who is grey haired. > We do not say person with curly hair. > Yet with disabilities we say people with disabilities or people > with autism, CP, or whatever the disability is. > Its strange to me this person first language. > We do not do that with other races, ages or ethnicities but yet > it뭩 the politically correct thing to do with > disabilities. > Personally with usable vision, I like visually impaired, low > vision, or legally blind. > But I'm not offended by people saying blind person to me. > I do understand why they say the person first but its annoying. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:04 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: justin williams > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Disability Language > > While operating in the field, I am careful to set the best > example for my > consumer. Often times, consumers use names such as physically > disabled, or > deaf, or something such as that. They use the terminology given > to them by > those who while well meaning, are not in touch with the day to > day maneusha > which goes along with having a disability. I am careful to > usualy stay in > the professional guidelines unless doing so will cause undo > stress. I've > noticed that when I use person first language, the consumer > becomes more > empowered and is more inclined to take control of their life. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Arielle > Silverman via nabs-l > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:57 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Arielle Silverman > Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Language > > Hi Kaiti and all. I read an article recently about disability > language which > was published in the journal American Psychologist and authored > by Dana > Dunn, a prominent disability psychologist. Basically, the article > described > how language preferences are changing. As others have pointed > out, there is > a lot of debate about whether to use person-first ("person who is > blind") or > identity-first ("blind person"). What Dr. Dunn recommends is that > clinicians > should simply ask clients what term they prefer and use those > terms > (honoring different clients with different terms, if necessary). > So you > would not automatically need to call your client a person with a > disability > unless he/she explicitly prefers that language. I have noticed > that the vast > majority of people I meet/exchange emails with who have autism > want to be > called "autistic people" and the only people I know who use the > term "people > with autism" are non-autistic people. So, I regularly use the > term "autistic > person" because that seems to be the majority preference for > those who are > actually part of that group. If a particular autistic person or > family > objects, then I will switch to their term of choice. I also use > the term > "blind person" to describe myself and others in the blindness > community. > When I talk to parents of blind children, I try to listen to > their terms and > follow their language (even if it's "visually impaired"). I think > honoring > language and building common language is a part of building > rapport and > trust with others. > Arielle > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > ms2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 > 0earthlink..net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40unr > .edu > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareade > r%40gmail.com > > > -- Kaiti Shelton University of Dayton-Music Therapy President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division 2015-2016 "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!" From tactiletaylor at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 05:10:32 2015 From: tactiletaylor at gmail.com (Taylor Durrett) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 00:10:32 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Questions About Using Blind Mice Movie Vault from blindmicemegamall.com References: Message-ID: <1242297F-4815-49AE-9AE2-AFDDE4975D2C@gmail.com> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Taylor Durrett > Date: July 29, 2015 at 12:09:47 AM CDT > To: Taylor Durrett > Subject: Fwd: Questions About Using Blind Mice Movie Vault from blindmicemegamall.com > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Taylor Durrett >> Date: July 29, 2015 at 12:06:36 AM CDT >> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >> Subject: Questions About Using Blind Mice Movie Vault from blindmicemegamall.com >> >> Hello all, >> I love to go to the Blind Mice Mega Mall Web site quite a bit to look for anything new they may have put out on their Movie Vault. Does anyone here know exactly how often they update/add new descriptive movies to the vault? Another question I have is, Does anyone know if you can request different movies that aren't currently in the vault's collection of movies? >> Also, I just had to get my Windows 7 PC computer fixed today because there were several pop-ups and malware on it that had been causing me problems. If I were to go and try to download a movie using Censpace, which is what Blind Mice Mart uses, do you think I will encounter any type of malware or viruses just from trying to download a new movie? What's the best way to do this? I now have a new trial program on my computer that is supposed to protect the computer from malware, as well as some kind of anti-virus thing, but I just don't really want to take any more chances of getting malware. >> Sorry for all the rambling. I hope you could catch the main gist of my three questions, and I hope this list is definitely the proper place to post all this stuff. >> Thank you all, and have a great day! >> Taylor >> (By the way, I did have success in getting my PC fixed, and everything I use on it is working as it should.) >> >> Sent from my iPhone From wmodnl at hotmail.com Wed Jul 29 07:06:46 2015 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 03:06:46 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] [nabentre] [nfb-talk] unhappy with current government trends, vote liberterrian for 2016 American president In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you dave for your promptness on this topic, as it remains improper and a discussion for another place. I think that, it is a good idea to inform you that a similar message with spam is appearing in news-feeds on some Facebook accounts and in the free email accounts like gmail, hotmail, and yahoo. Hope this helps. Have a good morning. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 29, 2015, at 12:42 AM, David Andrews via nabentre wrote: > > This message is inappropriate and off topic for all of our lists. Once again you have gotten yourself thrown off our lists. > > Dave > > At 08:12 PM 7/27/2015, Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser via nfb-talk wrote: >> To all ACB Members and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with republican >> and democratic legal governmental policies: >> >> Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely dissatisfied with >> the corrupt republican presidential wins and corrupt democrat election wins >> vote for a liberterrian as president because the new wave of >> liberterrianistic power can fix America and give opportunities to all >> disabled Americans to lead self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives > > David Andrews and long white cane Harry. > E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > nabentre mailing list > nabentre at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabentre_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabentre: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabentre_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com From patnaude.sarah at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 15:48:13 2015 From: patnaude.sarah at yahoo.com (Sarah Patnaude) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:48:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Announcing the 2015 NFBV Scholarship Program References: <1872049263.2286154.1438140435091.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Fellow Federationists, > > I am pleased to announce that the National Federation of the Blind of Virginia (NFBV) will reward up to three James F. Nelson Jr. Scholarships in the amount of $1,500 at the 2015 state convention to be held at the Westin Tysons Corner, located at 7801 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, Virginia 22043 on October 30th through November 1st, 2015. > > The National Federation of the Blind of Virginia is an organization dedicated to creating equality, opportunity, and security for all blind people. Due to this, winners of NFBV James F. Nelson, Jr. scholarships do not need to be members of the National Federation of the Blind of Virginia. The Committee will consider applicants for all eligible scholarships with one application. Individuals who have applied in previous years are encouraged to apply again. > The Scholarship Committee, consisting of successful blind college graduates, will review all applications and select the scholarship recipients. The Committee will notify finalists by telephone on or before October 6, 2015. All decisions of the Scholarship Committee are final. > To be eligible for these awards, each applicant must: > * Be legally blind; > * Be a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia or be attending school in the commonwealth; > * Be pursuing--or planning to pursue--a full-time, postsecondary course of study in the 2015-2016 academic year; and > * Participate in the entire NFBV state convention and in all scheduled scholarship program activities to be held October 30th-November 1, 2015 in Falls Church, Virginia. > Deadline: Sarah Patnaude, scholarship co-chair, must receive all documentation on or before September 25, 2015. > If you have any questions please contact Co-chairs Sarah Patnaude at patnaude.sarah at yahoo.com or by telephone at 804-591-6153, or Brian Miller at brianrmiller88 at gmail.com or by telephone at 703-785-9929. > > Thank you for you time and consideration on this great opportunity! Please encourage any blind students residing in or going to school in Virginia to apply for this program. > > Sarah Patnaude > Virginia Association of Blind Students, President > > From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 23:49:02 2015 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:49:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Penpal Wanted Message-ID: <55b96672.86e10d0a.e3f4c.3156@mx.google.com> Dear Students, I am looking for a blind penpal that I can communicate with via email on a monthly basis. I would prefer a female penpal. I'd like someone who is from Boston, Massachusetts. From zumbagecko at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 23:53:36 2015 From: zumbagecko at gmail.com (petras) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:53:36 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] windows 10 Message-ID: <55b967a1.a4b1420a.3eaf.479d@mx.google.com> Hi, can you give me instructions to install windows 10? I didn't reserve my fre upgrade, so I need to do it manually. I'm using windows 7 toshiba. From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 30 00:02:40 2015 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:02:40 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] unhappy with current government trends, vote liberterrian for 2016 American president In-Reply-To: <55B6DA52.6000504@tysdomain.com> References: <55B6DA52.6000504@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: He has been removed and blocked. Dave At 08:26 PM 7/27/2015, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >stop spamming lists with this, please and thanks. > >On 7/27/2015 9:12 PM, Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser via nabs-l wrote: > > To all ACB Members and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with > > republican and democratic legal governmental policies: > > > > Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely > > dissatisfied with the corrupt republican presidential wins and > > corrupt democrat election wins vote for a liberterrian as > > president because the new wave of liberterrianistic power can fix > > America and give opportunities to all disabled Americans to lead > > self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives > > > > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing > > list nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To > > unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > > > >- -- >Take care, >Ty David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 30 01:43:55 2015 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 20:43:55 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] [nabentre] unhappy with current Republican governmental trends and democratic governmental trends , vote liberterrian for 2016 American president In-Reply-To: <55B7B3D8.20604@wyoassist.com> References: <55B7B3D8.20604@wyoassist.com> Message-ID: He has been removed and blocked. Dave At 11:54 AM 7/28/2015, Rick Reed via nabentre wrote: >Sir, > >Please immediately cease posting these political messages on our lists. >Also, this is not an ACB list. If you're going to SPAM us with >garbage, at least get the organization right. If you're going to be >a nuisance, at least put some damn effort into it! > >Dave, > >Can we ban this clown-shoe from posting to this list? > >Thanks all! > >Rick Reed >WYOAssist Low-vision Specialist >President, National Federation of the Blind of Wyoming >Certified Assistive Technology Specialist >Technological Accessibility Advocate > >Phone: >(307)315-3648 > >Twitter: >@WYOAssist >@NFBWY >@BlindPCs >@BlindSarcasm > >Web: >http://www.wyoassist.com >http://theblindgeek.net >http://www.blindpcs.com >http://www.nfbwyoming.org >http://www.nfb.org >http://theblindfoodie.com > >Skype: >TheBlindGeek > >"Disability is NOT the final answer!" > >The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > >Communications with WYOAssist are confidential and are not shared >with third parties except with the express consent of our clients. >Messages may be stored offline for security purposes. > >On 7/28/2015 9:22 AM, Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser via nabentre wrote: >>To all ACB Members who are dissatisfied with republican and democratic legal >>governmental policies and all NFB Members who are dissatisfied with >>republican and democratic legal governmental policies: >> >>Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. If you are extremely dissatisfied with >>the corrupt republican presidential wins and corrupt democrat election wins >>vote for a liberterrian as president because the new wave of >>liberterrianistic power can fix America and give opportunities to all >>disabled Americans to lead self-fulfilling and self-enriching lives >> >>____________________________________________________________ >>Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? >>Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. >>Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/manager >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>nabentre mailing list >>nabentre at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabentre_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>for nabentre: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabentre_nfbnet.org/rreed%40wyoassist.com > >_______________________________________________ >nabentre mailing list >nabentre at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabentre_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for nabentre: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabentre_nfbnet.org/dandrews%40visi.com David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org From support at accessiblemenus.com Thu Jul 30 02:55:20 2015 From: support at accessiblemenus.com (Jalen Ballard (Accessible Restaurant Menus Project)) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:55:20 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Restaurant menu accessibility survey for blind/VI students Message-ID: <55B99218.4050801@accessiblemenus.com> Hello, My name is Jalen Ballard, and I am currently developing a free restaurant menu accessibility app for iOS and Android. I created a brief survey for blind/visually-impaired people of all ages that asks for the opinions of respondents regarding the issue of restaurant menu accessibility. I am particularly looking for respondents who are Braille readers, large print readers, and/or users of the KNFB Mobile app for iOS. To take the survey, you may either follow this link or navigate to Survey.AccessibleMenus.com in your web browser. Although inputting contact information is optional, doing so will allow you to be notified if/when a public beta version of the app becomes available. This app is not designed to be a replacement for any existing technology. It is simply another tool blind/visually-impaired users would have in their "toolbox" of apps to help gain independence. All of your responses are truly appreciated, and your input will help guide this project. For anyone interested, I have created a Twitter account for the project and have promoted the survey using the #a11y hashtag: https://twitter.com/AccessibleMenus/status/621843090144366592 Feel free to pass this along wherever you see fit. Remember that this survey is for all ages. Thanks in advance, Jalen Ballard From tinypaws8491 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 30 03:05:53 2015 From: tinypaws8491 at yahoo.com (Thomas Peralta) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] Restaurant menu accessibility survey for blind/VI students In-Reply-To: <55B99218.4050801@accessiblemenus.com> References: <55B99218.4050801@accessiblemenus.com> Message-ID: <307086079.4978129.1438225553341.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I would be interested in learning about your project.  I don't know braille or be able to help you in any of that.  I am a retired restaurant owner, food and beverage manager, and lecturer at culinary schools in Restaurant Sanitation, Menu Planning and Italian Cooking 101.  If there is any way I may help in any way, please ask.Tom PeraltaLegislative Co-Director/State of Wisconsin On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:56 PM, Jalen Ballard (Accessible Restaurant Menus Project) via nabs-l wrote: Hello, My name is Jalen Ballard, and I am currently developing a free restaurant menu accessibility app for iOS and Android.  I created a brief survey for blind/visually-impaired people of all ages that asks for the opinions of respondents regarding the issue of restaurant menu accessibility.  I am particularly looking for respondents who are Braille readers, large print readers, and/or users of the KNFB Mobile app for iOS. To take the survey, you may either follow this link or navigate to Survey.AccessibleMenus.com in your web browser. Although inputting contact information is optional, doing so will allow you to be notified if/when a public beta version of the app becomes available. This app is not designed to be a replacement for any existing technology.  It is simply another tool blind/visually-impaired users would have in their "toolbox" of apps to help gain independence. All of your responses are truly appreciated, and your input will help guide this project. For anyone interested, I have created a Twitter account for the project and have promoted the survey using the #a11y hashtag: https://twitter.com/AccessibleMenus/status/621843090144366592 Feel free to pass this along wherever you see fit.  Remember that this survey is for all ages. Thanks in advance, Jalen Ballard _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tinypaws8491%40yahoo.com From cape.amanda at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 13:34:14 2015 From: cape.amanda at gmail.com (cape.amanda at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:34:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Changing DNS server manually on Apple TV Message-ID: Hi everyone, Has anyone changed the DNS server manually on an Apple TV with VoiceOver? I am having trouble entering the numbers. Thanks. Amanda From brailleprincess at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 22:17:28 2015 From: brailleprincess at gmail.com (Kayla Weathers) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:17:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Brailliant bi 32-cell refreshable Braille display Message-ID: Hi NABS, I have a Brailliant bi 32-cell Braille display that I want to sell. If interested please feel free to contact me off list. Thanks, Kayla From zumbagecko at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 22:35:49 2015 From: zumbagecko at gmail.com (petras) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:35:49 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] deleting apps Message-ID: <55baa6e7.680f430a.36b6b.ffff9d64@mx.google.com> Hi, how do I delete apps that I dont want on my iphone? From valandkayla at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 22:37:50 2015 From: valandkayla at gmail.com (Valerie Gibson) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:37:50 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] deleting apps In-Reply-To: <55baa6e7.680f430a.36b6b.ffff9d64@mx.google.com> References: <55baa6e7.680f430a.36b6b.ffff9d64@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello, Double tap and hold until you hear three low clicks. lift your finger, and double tap again. HTH > On Jul 30, 2015, at 4:35 PM, petras via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi, how do I delete apps that I dont want on my iphone? > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/valandkayla%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 23:38:27 2015 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:38:27 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] places to go to in Ruston Message-ID: <55bab57d.8ef5420a.dfc46.ffffaef2@mx.google.com> Hi All, I have a question for these of you who went to LCB or even just these who are familiar with Ruston. What are some good places to go while there? I know that many people get their shopping at Wal-Mart; did you find most of the things that you needed there? Also, where did you get your haircuts, and would you recommend the place you went to? Were there any other places that you enjoyed going to, like stores or restaurants? Thanks. Vejas From bestca21 at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 23:48:08 2015 From: bestca21 at gmail.com (Caitlin Best) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:48:08 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] places to go to in Ruston In-Reply-To: <55bab57d.8ef5420a.dfc46.ffffaef2@mx.google.com> References: <55bab57d.8ef5420a.dfc46.ffffaef2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: The place I went to get a haircut is boardwalk hair salon. I recommend them. There is a place called County market and another place called super one where you can get your groceries. You can find a lot of what you need at Walmart, but I hardly went there. There's a few stores in the I 20 Shopping Center that I went to sort of regularly. One is called beehive. I can't really remember the other ones. Sorry! As for taxis I suggest Ruston Express. That's just my personal preference. Food, I really liked teriyaki Grill. It's a teriyaki restaurant that has steak, chicken, shrimp with noodles or rice and they also have salads. And in a frozen custard place called Eskimos. Once you arrive in Ruston you can get a better sense of other things around. There is also a few really good Mexican places too. Best of luck! Cheers, Caitlin Best Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 30, 2015, at 19:38, Vejas Vasiliauskas via nabs-l wrote: > > Hi All, > I have a question for these of you who went to LCB or even just these who are familiar with Ruston. What are some good places to go while there? > I know that many people get their shopping at Wal-Mart; did you find most of the things that you needed there? Also, where did you get your haircuts, and would you recommend the place you went to? > Were there any other places that you enjoyed going to, like stores or restaurants? > Thanks. > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bestca21%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 04:03:01 2015 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:03:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: JAWS 16 and MAGic 13 Are Windows 10 Ready In-Reply-To: <010b01d0ca55$abda3660$038ea320$@gmail.com> References: <1121769042972.1101384244195.1986246528.0.91034JL.1002@scheduler.constantcontact.com> <010b01d0ca55$abda3660$038ea320$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004301d0cb45$cb5c2520$62146f60$@gmail.com> Friends: Some listers had raised questions in recent threads about the compatibility of our screen reading software with the newly-released Windows 10 operating system. As the most common subject for these questions was JAWS, I thought it best to forward an email I received from Freedom Scientific which will hopefully answer your questions about this. Please se below. Chris From: Freedom Scientific [mailto:freedomscientificnews at freedomscientific.ccsend.com] On Behalf Of Freedom Scientific Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:37 AM To: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Subject: JAWS 16 and MAGic 13 Are Windows 10 Ready Having trouble viewing this email? Click here to view as a webpage. Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender. Freedom Scientific LogoEmpowering Independence™ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Media Contact: Brad Davis 800-444-4443 or 727-803-8000 www.FreedomScientific.com Sales: info at FreedomScientific.com JAWS 16 and MAGic 13 Are Windows 10 Ready (St. Petersburg, Florida – July 28, 2015) – Freedom Scientific announced today the compatibility of the latest updates of the JAWS® 16 screen reader and MAGic® 13 screen magnification software with Windows® 10. Windows 10 is scheduled to be released on July 29, 2015, and will be offered as a free upgrade for devices running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7. “Over the past few months we have worked with Microsoft to ensure compatibility with Windows 10. The newest versions of JAWS and MAGic are ready for Windows 10, without the need for paid upgrades,” said Eric Damery, Vice President of Software Management at Freedom Scientific. Anyone planning to update to Windows 10, who has an earlier version of JAWS or MAGic, will need to follow the instructions provided on the Freedom Scientific prepared guide for our customers. Please visit our Windows 10 Upgrade web page for the smoothest transition to the new Windows Operating System. About Freedom Scientific Freedom Scientific is the leading worldwide provider of assistive technology products for those with vision impairments. The Company sells its products worldwide and has offices in Florida and Switzerland. The Company's products have been translated into 24 languages and are available in 55 countries. Freedom Scientific®, MAGic®, and JAWS® are registered trademarks in the United States and/or other countries. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.. Connect with us Image removed by sender. Follow us on Facebook Image removed by sender. 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Apply soon for the Dr. Sam Genensky Video Magnifier Memorial Award! http://www.cclvi.org/Scholarship/scholarship.html Best, Monica Monica Malhotra Project Coordinator, National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange Mobility International USA (MIUSA) 132 E Broadway, Suite 343 Eugene, Oregon 97401 USA (541) 343-1284 ext 27 Email: mmalhotra at miusa.org Web: www.miusa.org Are you a MIUSA alum? Complete our survey to stay in touch, or share it with your fellow alumni! Visit http://ow.ly/NQmgY Empowering people with disabilities around the world to achieve their human rights through international exchange and international development. From: Cathy [mailto:clswhitaker at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:46 PM To: 'Ashley Bryant' >; abryant at miusa.org Subject: Applications are being accepted - CCLVI Genensky Video Magnifier Award Dr. Sam Genensky Video Magnifier Memorial Award Announcem ent The Council of Citizens with Low Vision International (CCLVI) announces the Dr. Sam Genensky Video Magnifier Memorial Awards. At least 4 video magnifiers will be awarded to children and adults. To read the award guidelines and download an application, please visit the web site www.cclvi.org and click on the "Scholarships" link. Applications may be submitted through September 15, 2015 at 11:59 PM EST. We look forward to receiving your application materials! From nabs.president at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 19:32:11 2015 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Sean Whalen) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:32:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Legislative Committee: Let's Make Equal Access in the Classroom a Reality Message-ID: <001801d0cbc7$9a12acf0$ce3806d0$@gmail.com> Good afternoon, I am writing as the Chair of the NABS Legislative Committee to enlist your support. As you know, we in NFB are working to pass legislation that would create guidelines for accessible instructional materials in higher education. NABS is working hand and glove with our national legislative team to make this happen. But if we want to be sure to push this bill across the finish line, we need your help! And there are plenty of large, and small, ways that you can be a part of this effort. Maybe you are fired up to help push the legislative priorities of the Federation and have a little bit of time and energy to dedicate to the effort. In that case, we want you on the committee. What we're working on is a bit fluid, given that it relies on the ever-changing political and legislative process. We are here to do whatever we can to support the Government Affairs team in Baltimore. Primary projects right now are collecting letters about inaccessible technology in the classroom and helping organize meetings with college and university leadership to discuss accessibility on their campuses. If you are interested in legislation, and willing to make some phone calls and send some emails, we would love to have you on the team! Maybe you are unable to commit that kind of time. No problem! How about taking 15 minutes to write a brief letter to Congress talking about your experiences with inaccessible technology in your education? We'll get the letters to the legislative team in Baltimore, and they will use them in meetings and during Washington Seminar to make it clear to Members of Congress that real people in their districts and states are impacted by, and care a lot about, this issue! If you are willing to help out in any capacity, or if you simply have questions or thoughts about the work we are doing, please be in touch with me, Sean Whalen, or Kathryn Webster. We can be reached at nabs.president at gmail.com and kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com, respectively. My phone number is also in the signature block on this message. And, don't forget, you can always send letters, or have friends send them, to Kathryn or me! Drop us a line and let's get started! I sincerely believe that we can get a bill passed this year to drastically improve the situation for blind students of both today and tomorrow. This is important stuff. Let's go do it! Thank you, Sean Sean Whalen President, National Association of Blind Students (608) 332-4147 Nabs.president at gmail.com @nabslink www.nabslink.org From hbwilliams16 at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 21:28:17 2015 From: hbwilliams16 at gmail.com (Hindley Williams) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:28:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes July 2015 References: <392327DD-52D0-43F1-AEB3-ED6AFDAD2698@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Fellow Students, Attached please see the NABS Notes for July 2015. It includes lots of exciting updates, including some post-convention information nationally and from some state student divisions. Enjoy! All Best, Hindley > > From clb5590 at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 21:32:27 2015 From: clb5590 at gmail.com (Cindy Bennett) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:32:27 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes July 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <392327DD-52D0-43F1-AEB3-ED6AFDAD2698@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Hindley, I did not find the attachment. Cindy On 7/31/15, Hindley Williams via nabs-l wrote: > Hello Fellow Students, > Attached please see the NABS Notes for July 2015. It includes lots of > exciting updates, including some post-convention information nationally and > from some state student divisions. Enjoy! > All Best, > Hindley > > >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/clb5590%40gmail.com > -- Cindy Bennett 1st Year Ph.D. Student, University of Washington Human Centered Design and Engineering Treasurer of the National Federation of the Blind of Washington an Affiliate of the National Federation of the Blind clb5590 at gmail.com From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 22:14:15 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:14:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes July 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <392327DD-52D0-43F1-AEB3-ED6AFDAD2698@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007501d0cbde$3e081640$ba1842c0$@gmail.com> Hey everyone, Sorry about that...attachments have been iffy with the listserv as of late. Hindley, fabulous job on the Notes! Please, see attached; and let us know if you have any questions! Best, Kathryn Webster NABS Secretary -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hindley Williams via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:28 PM To: nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org Cc: Hindley Williams; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes July 2015 Hello Fellow Students, Attached please see the NABS Notes for July 2015. It includes lots of exciting updates, including some post-convention information nationally and from some state student divisions. Enjoy! All Best, Hindley > > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma il.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NABS Notes July 2015.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 31144 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 22:35:05 2015 From: kathrynwebster.nfb at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:35:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes July 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <392327DD-52D0-43F1-AEB3-ED6AFDAD2698@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007901d0cbe1$26b4af00$741e0d00$@gmail.com> Cindy, Sorry about that. Attachments have been acting iffy with the listserv today. It should now be all set. See attached, everyone; and thanks Hindley for another great month of Notes! Best, Kathryn Webster NABS Secretary -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Bennett via nabs-l Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:32 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cindy Bennett Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS Notes July 2015 Hi Hindley, I did not find the attachment. Cindy On 7/31/15, Hindley Williams via nabs-l wrote: > Hello Fellow Students, > Attached please see the NABS Notes for July 2015. It includes lots of > exciting updates, including some post-convention information > nationally and from some state student divisions. Enjoy! > All Best, > Hindley > > >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/clb5590%40gmail.co > m > -- Cindy Bennett 1st Year Ph.D. Student, University of Washington Human Centered Design and Engineering Treasurer of the National Federation of the Blind of Washington an Affiliate of the National Federation of the Blind clb5590 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kathrynwebster.nfb%40gma il.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you would like to serve on the communications committee, feel free to email me at bre.brown24 at gmail.com. We are looking forward to a fantastic year, and we want to make NABS the best it can be. Thanks Bre Brown Second vice president, National Association of Blind Students