[nabs-l] inaccessibility in the class may end up costing me apassing grade!

Tue Nov 24 02:21:50 UTC 2015

Agreed!  I think that was the only issue here.  But I do wonder for my own sake, is there a way to use those discussion board websites with screen reader? Or like chatroom kinda websites... I'm not sure what they are called? I have had to use them for school before and found it impossible.  

Anna

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Again, track changes comments and protected documents are accessible.
> Abby simply didn't know the JAWS commands needed to access those
> materials. Sometimes this learning curve affects sighted students,
> too. That is why a lot of colleges allow students to get an
> "incomplete" grade so that students have time to figure things out.
> I also agree that while we need to continually push for access, there
> are times when the most practical solution is simply to enlist sighted
> assistance from a relative, friend, hired reader, professor, or reader
> provided by disability services. There are times when accessibility is
> possible, but very inconvenient, or when we simply don't know the
> appropriate screen reader commands to access the materials. There are
> other times when accessibility is absent. In these cases, recruiting
> sighted support, or more knowledgeable blind people, is perfectly
> appropriate.
> Arielle
> 
>> On 11/23/15, Anna via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Abby,
>> Thanks for the update.  Sounds like you are on track.
>> I will say Kennedy to your comment.  The NFB is trying to work on this.
>> Perhaps in this particular situation it may be a simple issue with the
>> professor, I am not sure.  But all this inaccesibility stuff can be resolved
>> if we work for it.  The purpose of Aim High (formerly TEACH act) is to
>> create guidelines for schools so that we don't have to just keep our heads
>> up and not change the situation.  We can change the situation.
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Kennnedy Stomberg via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You know huys, we seem to be seeing a lot of e-mails on the list about
>>> inaccessibility in the  classroom. Does anyone else find this
>>> discouraging?
>>> Abby, I know you're being as proactive as you can, and I have no doubt
>>> that people will see that.
>>> But seriously, it's  kind of a bummer!
>>> Sorry to complain so much. I know it eoesn't change the situation. I think
>>> the important thing is to keep your head up, and remember that you are not
>>> alone! Because no matter how great the college you attend, there's always
>>> that one profesor that is completely clueless!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Abby Bolling via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> the prof gave me a chance to re-do the first paper, but he never gave me
>>>> a deadline for it. I did email him a final draft of both papers, and he
>>>> rejected them both b ecause I didn't listen to "his comments." well, if I
>>>> couldn't read them, how the heck was I supposed to follow them!
>>>> Anyway. I was going to email the supervisor today anyway, but my prof's
>>>> email this morning made me take more action (going to ODS/requesting a
>>>> meeting with the superviser, etc)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Abby
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/23/2015 7:20 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>> Abby,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't have much advice for inaccessible technology. If its possible to
>>>>> work with another classmate, that is an option. Also, using a reader can
>>>>> do the job too. I know most students cannot afford readers, I was lucky
>>>>> in that area. But vr should pay if you cannot. And, there is always
>>>>> volunteer readers if you trade something; like you buy them lunch for
>>>>> every time they read or you could do something for them like tutor them
>>>>> in a subject in exchange for reading.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for your english class, yes, I'd push further. Go to the supervisor
>>>>> and have a meeting. Remember to keep print  outs of your emails. I'm
>>>>> wondering though that if final drafts were due, why didn't you say
>>>>> something sooner? Why didn't you go to his office hours and go over
>>>>> papers? I know some adjunct professors do not have office hours or will
>>>>> not make appointments for those people who have conflicts with office
>>>>> hours. Maybe this professor is one of them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've also struggled with getting access to comments in papers, so I
>>>>> understand the frustration. I usually end up using a reader or seeing
>>>>> the professor in office hours or even if its something small they wrote,
>>>>> I'd see them a few minutes after class.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Someone on list said go to the dean. Actually, you need to go up the
>>>>> chain of command. Going to the dean is not the best idea since the next
>>>>> in command is usually not a dean. It varies from college to college but
>>>>> usually the next in command is the department chair or an assistant
>>>>> dean. However, maybe the supervisor can help you. Seems like you have a
>>>>> lot to do at the end of the semester to play catch up.
>>>>> If the supervisor is understanding, he will get the prof to comply and
>>>>> also give you a due date for your missing work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope things work out and sorry to learn of yet another inaccessible
>>>>> online platform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>> 
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