[nabs-l] Microaggression and unconscious biases towards blind people and people with disabilities

Sat Apr 16 19:02:11 UTC 2016

Afternoon, James,

         In your message, I like how you describe ways in which you 
are conscious of embodying the rhetoric you are aspousing. Ol'Sighty, 
as I like to think of him in my experience is not necessarily 
effectively reached in the course of attending some leccture should 
he find himself associating with blind people, rather, he seems to be 
reached more directly by seeing these colors of the blind experience 
embodied in the course of blind behavior. So I hope we are careful to 
act out what ever is our vision, our conception of how blindness ought to look.
As far as being handled by him, for me, touch is the way in which I, 
myself receive environmental cues in a most direct way. therefore, if 
it's the way I, myself  receive environmental cues why then ought 
Ol'Sighty not receive cues with like immediacy?

I need help routine.
>And, if I'm at a restaurant, and you ask someone else what I want, or are
>otherwise denagrading, then I not goint to tip you.  I'll at least explain
>myself, but I must admit, I usually don't get this much, and I think it is
>due to the way I dress and carry myself.
>  One thing that seems to help is if you dress nicely.  I rarely if at all
>where shorts, jeans, sneakers, or any open toe shoes.  I stick to slacks,
>nice shirts, sweaters, boots and work shoes.  I stay clean shaven. I've
>found that it gets a modicum of respect if you stay a couple levels above
>the folks around you.  I where sport coats and ties to work, even though our
>dress does not always call for it; they're more business casual, slacks and
>shirts, and what ever the female equivalent is.  I've decided that I don't
>want anyone to be able to distinguish me from one of the managers.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Alan
>Boehm via nabs-l
>Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 11:15 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: James Alan Boehm <jab2bs at mtmail.mtsu.edu>
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Microaggression and unconscious biases towards blind
>people and people with disabilities
>
>I think we have all encountered the restaurant situation or the setting
>where someone  continues to ask to help us. As far as that is concerned, I
>agree it can be very frustrating. But we also need to look at why some
>people act the way they act. Is it because of the stereotypes only? Are
>there any other factors? As being someone who used to be sighted, and
>knowing sighted individuals, the way some were raised is when you see
>someone who is old, looks like they are struggling, have their hands full of
>groceries, whether blind or not, it is polite and thoughtful to lend a
>helping hand.We talk about society and how thoughtless they are and how
>selfish they are. But when a person lends a helping hand, we then want to
>"slap them in the face. It is ture that sometimes a person , once told we do
>not need their help, is insistent on helping. This is definitely
>frustrating.I have been there. BUt this is usually not becasue of ill
>intentions. They just need to be educated. How we respondto such individuals
>will either confirm their stereotypes( such as these blind people sure are
>rude and arrogant or I appreciate the  person who is blind educating me and
>helping me to see things from their perspective in a respectful manner).
>         As a student in psychology, we must not only look at what the person
>does, but why and what influenced the person to act in a certain way. We
>must look at the big picture before we can understand and then find ways to
>successfully educate the ill-informed.
>
>James Alan Boehm
>Phone: 901-483-1515
>Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com Refer NFB correspondences to:
>secretary at nfb-tn.org
>
>"Blindness never limits- Low expectations do! Live the life you want!"
>
> > On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:00 AM, STOMBERG, KENNEDY via nabs-l
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Agreeed! When I am in those situations, I will often look directly at
> > the waiter, and say, "I'm right here. My name is Kennedy, and if you
> > would like to know what I want, maybe you should ask me."
> >
> > Two aditional microagressions come to mind.
> > First, it really bothers me when people assume I need help. For
> > example, I could be walking somewhere uon campus, and someone might
> > come up to me and say, "Where do you want to go? I will help you."
> > (This is often accompanied by the person grabbing my arm, that same
> > microagression that Joseph
> > mentionedff) I usually respond by saying, "I am going to such and such
> > a place, but I don't need help. Thank you." What makes the situation
> > worse though is that the person will often say, "Oh! Are you sure?
> > Because I don't mind. Really, I don't!" At that point, I respond more
> > firmly, "No thank you." And of course, by this time, I'm trying to
> > resist the urge to slap the person...
> >
> > The second microagression is when sighted people commit a microagression,
> > and then tell me to "please be patient"   when I correct them. I
>understand
> > that no one is perfect! Sometimes, I am going to have to explain
> > things, and that's all right. But if I am using microagressions and
> > don't realize it, I want to be corrected! I find it frustrating when
> > my sighted piers tell me that my correcting them is impatient.
> >
> > I am so glad we are having this conversation. I read somewhere that
> > when the steriotypes of any minority group are constantly brought to
> > the surface, it's very psychologically damaging, and can lead to
> > under-performance in many areas, which often perpetuates the
> > steriotypes! I think this is definitely true for me and other blind
> > people, though of course we almost always manage to rise above these
> > ridiculous microagressions and steriotypes!
> >
> > Honestly though, I was starting to think that the microagressions I
> > was noticing were just me being petty! So, I'm happy to know that
> > others are experiencing the same things, though it sucks that anyone has
>to!
> >
> > Kennedy Stomberg
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 8:05 AM, justin williams via nabs-l <
> > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Yeap, and I don't tip them either.  I tell them why also.
> >> Justin
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jason
> >> Polansky via nabs-l
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 9:04 AM
> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>>
> >> Cc: Jason Polansky <jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Microaggression and unconscious biases towards
> >> blind people and people with disabilities
> >>
> >> I agree with Phil and Joseph. Something at the top of my head is
> >> sometimes when we go to restaurants, the waiter or waitress will ask
> >> fy friends or family members and say "What does he want to eat?",
> >> like we can't talk for ourselves because we're blind.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:42 AM Joseph C. Lininger via nabs-l <
> >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Off the top of my head, there are two things that could be
> >>> classified in your words as microaggression that really get to me.
> >>> The first is unsolicited touching. Many people seem to think it's ok
> >>> to touch a blind person without asking permission or otherwise
> >>> violate our personal space in a way they would never dream of doing
> >>> if the person were sighted. The second one is when a person sees you
> >>> as blind first, and maybe something else second. I say maybe because
> >>> blind may be all you are to them. What I mean by this is that every
> >>> time they talk to you they always bring up the blindness in every
>conceivable situation.
> >>> If you try to address them normally for something like a work
> >>> related issue, they will change the subject to blindness. If they
> >>> see you in the hallway, they will make a comment about the
> >>> blindness. You get the idea. I understand curiosity, and I'm not
> >>> offended by that. What I am offended by though is when it is
> >>> impossible to speak to a person without them bringing that up. (I
> >>> know one person who I have known for almost 3 years, so at this
> >>> point it's starting to get a bit
> >>> ridiculous)
> >>>
> >>> As for unconscious biases, it's interesting you bring that up
> >>> because I was just talking to a friend about that this last week. I
> >>> was telling him that it is often times hard for a blind person to
> >>> find employment, even when qualified because of biases held by the
> >>> hiring manager for instance. I told him the worst part of that, at
> >>> least in my opinion, is that it doesn't even have to be something
> >>> that a person does consciously. A person can be absolutely convinced
> >>> they have no negative thoughts about blindness, yet their behavior
> >>> indicates otherwise. You can't even address it in that case because
> >>> they are absolutely convinced it doesn't exist.
> >>>
> >>> I had an experience related to this just a couple of months ago. I
> >>> was talking to someone about the possibility of a future work
>opportunity.
> >>> This guy had said in the same conversation that he doesn't even
> >>> notice the blindness and that he treats me like everyone else. Then,
> >>> a few minutes later he said, "well, I'm assuming you wouldn't want
> >>> to work at this location because the layout of the area is weird."
> >>> If you bring it to his attention though, even with that comment,
> >>> he'll deny he has any such views. It's not a dishonesty thing
> >>> either; he is actually convinced he doesn't harbour opinions like that.
> >>> Joe
> >>>
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