[nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice

Thu Feb 4 16:29:51 UTC 2016

Morning, Jamie,

Thank you!At 07:18 PM 1/29/2016, Jamie Principato via nabs-l wrote:
>Ok. Why are you getting defensive and shooting people down for 
>offering you suggestions? Isn't that what you asked for? Be an 
>active part of the problem solving process. Help us understand your 
>strengths and weaknesses better so we can offer more ideas. Another 
>is to talk to your professor about an oral exam, either on a 
>recording evict or in her office. Yet another is to have your scribe 
>simply start the audio recorder that is built into windows for you 
>so you can record your answers, then stop it while you think about 
>the next question or when ever you're finished. Then you just save 
>that file for your teacher. You're probably going to accuse me of 
>assuming your disability services office would do that. But instead, 
>why not ask them first of they will.
>
>-Jamie
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 29, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Simply because this suggestion works for some does not mean it 
> will work for
> > all. I have a hard enough time typing with the use of a screen reader, I
> > cannot imagine how horrible my typing would be without the use of a screen
> > reader.
> >
> > Elizabeth
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Carly Mihalakis
> > via nabs-l
> > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 9:32 PM
> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>;
> > National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice
> >
> > Evening, List,
> >
> > That is a good suggestion~! 'smatter of cfact, at times I was editing my
> > writing with sighted student writing tutors, I used the in class computers
> > in exactly that manner. And, it works well.
> > CarAt 04:02 PM 1/29/2016, Jamie Principato via nabs-l wrote:
> >> Another option would be to type your responses without JAWS, and have a
> >> scribe or reader read it back to you and help you correct typos and
> >> errors it's still your independent work, but you'd have a reader do the
> >> job of JAWS until the school gets the computers with jaws fixed.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Jamie,
> >>>
> >>> How can you assume the disabilities office would have a tape
> >>> recorder? As far as I can tell, the disabilities office does not have
> > much of anything.
> >>>
> >>> And if I have a difficult time using the screen reader voice that I
> >>> have been using for years, I do not believe I would be able to learn
> >> how to use a
> >>> new voice that I simply cannot understand.
> >>>
> >>> I am sorry if you do not understand or believe me. And I am even
> >>> more sorry that I posted my question about how to take my exam on this
> > email list.
> >>> Having everyone jump down my throat about not being able to attend
> >>> an NFB training center or not having perfect Braille skills was
> >> definitely not what
> >>> I needed today. It looks as though the positive support of the NFB
> >>> is for everyone else besides me.
> >>>
> >>> Elizabeth.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie
> >>> Principato via nabs-l
> >>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:31 PM
> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Cc: Jamie Principato <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some
> >>> Advice
> >>>
> >>> The disability office probably has a tape recorder. Also, if you
> >>> don't understand a speech synthesizer, practice actually does help
> >>> with
> >> that. It's
> >>> just like how toddlers don't understand grown up speech until
> >>> they've listened to it a lot. A big part of it is to not throw ideas
> >>> out with an "I can't" or "I'll never be able to" right off the bat.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> >>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello All,,
> >>>>
> >>>> If I cannot understand the voice from NVDA then what good is it
> >>>> going to be for me to practice using it? No amount of practice is
> >>>> going to change this for me.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only recording device I have is a Victor Stream. So how exactly
> >>>> would this option work for me? It would seem to me the only way to
> >>>> allow my professor to listen to my answers would be to give her my
> >>>> victor stream. I would not feel comfortable doing this because I
> >>>> have all my reading materials on it. And since the victor stream
> >>>> has its own special recording format, I cannot just simply save a
> >>>> copy of the recording and send it to my professor.
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems as though there would be too many logistics for this option.
> >>>> And I have absolutely no idea if the disabilities office would
> >>>> allow such an accommodation. The disabilities office seems to be
> >>>> rather controlling in what it is willing to approve of as an
> > accommodation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Elizabeth
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart [mailto:mikgephart at icloud.com]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 5:13 PM
> >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some
> >>>> Advice
> >>>>
> >>>> Elizabeth, I understand some of the frustration. We are not at all
> >>>> implying that a training center would solve all your problems. How
> >>>> many of our members have left a training center, only to still need
> >>>> help with their colleges? could you practice with NVDA from
> >>>> wherever you are emailing right now? The more you practice, the better.
> >>>> Blindness and health problems do not have to stop you from living
> >>>> the life
> >>> y want.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> >>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I honestly wish I had never posted my email to this email list. I
> >>>>> really
> >>>> hate the fact that it just seems like all you are wanting to do is
> >>>> tell me that an NFB training center is somehow going to solve all
> >>>> the problems in my life. Even if I could ever go to an NFB training
> >>>> center, I will probably never gain the Braille skills necessary to
> >>>> be able to use them in a testing situation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have never used a smart phone before, so this option would not
> >>>>> work for
> >>>> me. There is absolutely no way I would be able to learn how to use
> >>>> it good enough to use for a test that is in two weeks. I am already
> >>>> trying to catch up in this class after being sick, so I am not
> >>>> looking to add anything more to my plate than what is already on it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Using NVDA sounds like a good option, but again, I have never used
> >>>>> it
> >>>> before, and I cannot understand the voice that comes with it . So I
> >>>> am not quite sure how this option would work for me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am sorry that I am not able to fight my college and the
> >>>>> vocational
> >>>> rehabilitation all on my own. The Client Assistant Program does not
> >>>> do much of anything here. And no one in the NFB has never really
> >>>> been willing to help me either. All I wanted to do was to find a
> >>>> way to pass this class. But it looks as though I simply do not have
> >>>> the support, resources, and capacity to do the things I wanted to
> >>>> be able to
> >>> do before my accident.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I should have never signed up to take this class. I really did not
> >>>>> have
> >>>> the money to pay for it in the first place, and right now it just
> >>>> feels like this was only a waste of my money. And I should just
> >>>> learn that I am never going to be the same person that I was before my
> > accident.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Elizabeth
> >>>>>
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