[nabs-l] Audio books

Fri Jan 1 07:17:57 UTC 2016

Anna,

First off, let me tell you that no matter what challenges you might fae in
math and chemistry, you should believe in yourself, though you probably
already know that.

Second, I can tell you that I used a braille display for my stats textbook,
so I can't tell you about using audiobooks.

However, I did hire a reader to help me with some of the more visual
aspects of the course, such as graphing  and running calculations with
SPSS. (In case you didn't know, SPSS and SAS are statistical software
programs that basically do a lot of the hard math for you, like t-tests and
Chi Square analysis, though it will also do more simple calculations, such
as median and mode.)  When it comes to hiring readers, I recommend that you
hire someone with whom you are familiar if at all possible. Try to make
sure that they have good communication skills if you can. You will probably
need them to describe things like figures, and you deserve to work with
someone who will do a good job! It might also be helpful to ask your DSS
office about ordering some tactile graph paper from the American Printing
House for the Blind. This is super helpful for things like histograms and
scatter plots. (Sorry for the technical jargon!) Either way, I have no dout
you will be successful!

I hope this helps you, and feel free to contact me off-list if you have
more questions about Stats. (it  can be challenging, but it's super fun!
Trust me!)

Happy New Year!
Kennedy Stomberg

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 2:52 PM, justin williams via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Arielle is more of an expert than I, but for stats, SAS , is what seems to
> work for stats and JAWS. SPSS worked okay, but I couldn't get full
> functionality; I think I needed to employ a braille display for greatest
> affect with SPSS.  So, Even though you should contact Arielle, SAS is from
> what I understand what works with JAWS and stats.  Anyone on this list,
> please correct me if I am wrong.
> Also, Excel is able to do some stat equations.  You can use the formulas,
> or
> the add ins, but it is not as effective at running stats as the programs
> made for that.
>  Justin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anna via
> nabs-l
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> Cc: annajee82 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Audio books
>
> For statistics, but I will be doing more math and chemistry soon.
>
> Anna E Givens
>
>
> > On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:16 PM, justin williams via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > What kind of math is it?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Audio books
> >
> > That's true.
> > However, due to issues with some nerves in my hands, I am unable to
> > use braille very well.  So this is not a good option for me.  I can
> > use it a little bit, but certainly not to read a book.
> > Thanks for suggestion though!
> >
> > Anna E Givens
> >
> >
> >>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:00 PM, justin williams via nabs-l
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would have tried ordering it on amazon, and having it made
> >> accessible in pdf or work so I could use a braille display.  Finding
> >> a way to use the pc/braille display gives you the greatest control.
> >> Justin
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anna via
> >> nabs-l
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:56 PM
> >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org; blindmath at nfbnet.org; nfb-science at nfbnet.org
> >> Cc: annajee82 at gmail.com
> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Audio books
> >>
> >> I have been trying to use an audio book for the first time.  It is
> >> for a statistics class I have to take. It was recommended to me to
> >> use an audio book read by a person, so I got one from Learning Ally.
> >> In the last semester I was trying to use JAWS and some combination of
> >> my vision and listening to science and math on the computer.  It did
> >> not go
> > well at all.
> >> So I am trying the audio book but I am quickly realizing....This is
> >> going to take forever...
> >> Using a reader and/or tutor seems the most efficient option.  I have
> >> some, although not very much experience with working with people like
> >> this. I find it difficult.  I guess I am just looking for support and
> >> other people's experience.
> >> Have you used audio books for math?  How did it go?
> >> Have you used a reader?  How was that?
> >> How much time did you have to spend just reading through the book
> >> with the reader?  How did you reference the book or related material
> >> when you are not with your reader? How did you study on your own time?
> >> Any relevant information i can get on this would be helpful.  Thank
> >> you and Happy New Years.
> >>
> >> Anna E Givens
> >>
> >>
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