[nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice

Sat Jan 30 00:14:57 UTC 2016

Hello

, I want this discussion to be over now. I do not have the capacity to keep
defending myself for things that I might not ever be able to do again.

Elizabeth
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie
Principato via nabs-l
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Principato <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice

I'm not assuming they have one. I'm saying it's likely they do. You're
assuming they don't. Why not ask? 

And I haven't pushed Braille or training centers on you. Only practice and
an open mind as an alternative to a default I can't and never ever attitude.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Jamie,
> 
> How can you assume the disabilities office would have a tape recorder? 
> As far as I can tell, the disabilities office does not have much of
anything.
> 
> And if I have a difficult time using the screen reader voice that I 
> have been using for years, I do not believe I would be able to learn 
> how to use a new voice that I simply cannot understand.
> 
> I am sorry if you do not understand or believe me. And I am even more 
> sorry that I posted my question about how to take my exam on this email
list.
> Having everyone jump down my throat about not being able to attend an 
> NFB training center or not having perfect Braille skills was 
> definitely not what I needed today. It looks as though the positive 
> support of the NFB is for everyone else besides me.
> 
> Elizabeth. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie 
> Principato via nabs-l
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:31 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Principato <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some 
> Advice
> 
> The disability office probably has a tape recorder. Also, if you don't 
> understand a speech synthesizer, practice actually does help with 
> that. It's just like how toddlers don't understand grown up speech 
> until they've listened to it a lot. A big part of it is to not throw 
> ideas out with an "I can't" or "I'll never be able to" right off the bat.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,,
>> 
>> If I cannot understand the voice from NVDA then what good is it going 
>> to be for me to practice using it? No amount of practice is going to 
>> change this for me.
>> 
>> The only recording device I have is a Victor Stream. So how exactly 
>> would this option work for me? It would seem to me the only way to 
>> allow my professor to listen to my answers would be to give her my 
>> victor stream. I would not feel comfortable doing this because I have 
>> all my reading materials on it. And since the victor stream has its 
>> own special recording format, I cannot just simply save a copy of the 
>> recording and send it to my professor.
>> 
>> It seems as though there would be too many logistics for this option. 
>> And I have absolutely no idea if the disabilities office would allow 
>> such an accommodation. The disabilities office seems to be rather 
>> controlling in what it is willing to approve of as an accommodation.
>> 
>> Elizabeth
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mikayla Gephart [mailto:mikgephart at icloud.com]
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 5:13 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some 
>> Advice
>> 
>> Elizabeth, I understand some of the frustration. We are not at all 
>> implying that a training center would solve all your problems. How 
>> many of our members have left a training center, only to still need 
>> help with their colleges? could you practice with NVDA from wherever 
>> you are emailing right now? The more you practice, the better.
>> Blindness and health problems do not have to stop you from living the 
>> life
> y want.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I honestly wish I had never posted my email to this email list. I 
>>> really
>> hate the fact that it just seems like all you are wanting to do is 
>> tell me that an NFB training center is somehow going to solve all the 
>> problems in my life. Even if I could ever go to an NFB training 
>> center, I will probably never gain the Braille skills necessary to be 
>> able to use them in a testing situation.
>>> 
>>> I have never used a smart phone before, so this option would not 
>>> work for
>> me. There is absolutely no way I would be able to learn how to use it 
>> good enough to use for a test that is in two weeks. I am already 
>> trying to catch up in this class after being sick, so I am not 
>> looking to add anything more to my plate than what is already on it.
>>> 
>>> Using NVDA sounds like a good option, but again, I have never used 
>>> it
>> before, and I cannot understand the voice that comes with it . So I 
>> am not quite sure how this option would work for me.
>>> 
>>> I am sorry that I am not able to fight my college and the vocational
>> rehabilitation all on my own. The Client Assistant Program does not 
>> do much of anything here. And no one in the NFB has never really been 
>> willing to help me either. All I wanted to do was to find a way to 
>> pass this class. But it looks as though I simply do not have the 
>> support, resources, and capacity to do the things I wanted to be able 
>> to
> do before my accident.
>>> 
>>> I should have never signed up to take this class. I really did not 
>>> have
>> the money to pay for it in the first place, and right now it just 
>> feels like this was only a waste of my money. And I should just learn 
>> that I am never going to be the same person that I was before my
accident.
>>> 
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
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