[nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice

Christina Moore christina.moore16 at houghton.edu
Sat Jan 30 03:33:31 UTC 2016 

If your other disability is not related to speech, you could use dictate or a program such as Dragon. Maybe you could ask disability services if they have Dragon on the computer?

--Christina

> On Jan 29, 2016, at 21:37, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Simply because this suggestion works for some does not mean it will work for
> all. I have a hard enough time typing with the use of a screen reader, I
> cannot imagine how horrible my typing would be without the use of a screen
> reader.
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 9:32 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>;
> National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice
> 
> Evening, List,
> 
> That is a good suggestion~! 'smatter of cfact, at times I was editing my
> writing with sighted student writing tutors, I used the in class computers
> in exactly that manner. And, it works well.
> CarAt 04:02 PM 1/29/2016, Jamie Principato via nabs-l wrote:
>> Another option would be to type your responses without JAWS, and have a 
>> scribe or reader read it back to you and help you correct typos and 
>> errors it's still your independent work, but you'd have a reader do the 
>> job of JAWS until the school gets the computers with jaws fixed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jamie,
>>> 
>>> How can you assume the disabilities office would have a tape 
>>> recorder? As far as I can tell, the disabilities office does not have
> much of anything.
>>> 
>>> And if I have a difficult time using the screen reader voice that I 
>>> have been using for years, I do not believe I would be able to learn
>> how to use a
>>> new voice that I simply cannot understand.
>>> 
>>> I am sorry if you do not understand or believe me. And I am even 
>>> more sorry that I posted my question about how to take my exam on this
> email list.
>>> Having everyone jump down my throat about not being able to attend 
>>> an NFB training center or not having perfect Braille skills was
>> definitely not what
>>> I needed today. It looks as though the positive support of the NFB 
>>> is for everyone else besides me.
>>> 
>>> Elizabeth.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie 
>>> Principato via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:31 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jamie Principato <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some 
>>> Advice
>>> 
>>> The disability office probably has a tape recorder. Also, if you 
>>> don't understand a speech synthesizer, practice actually does help 
>>> with
>> that. It's
>>> just like how toddlers don't understand grown up speech until 
>>> they've listened to it a lot. A big part of it is to not throw ideas 
>>> out with an "I can't" or "I'll never be able to" right off the bat.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,,
>>>> 
>>>> If I cannot understand the voice from NVDA then what good is it 
>>>> going to be for me to practice using it? No amount of practice is 
>>>> going to change this for me.
>>>> 
>>>> The only recording device I have is a Victor Stream. So how exactly 
>>>> would this option work for me? It would seem to me the only way to 
>>>> allow my professor to listen to my answers would be to give her my 
>>>> victor stream. I would not feel comfortable doing this because I 
>>>> have all my reading materials on it. And since the victor stream 
>>>> has its own special recording format, I cannot just simply save a 
>>>> copy of the recording and send it to my professor.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems as though there would be too many logistics for this option.
>>>> And I have absolutely no idea if the disabilities office would 
>>>> allow such an accommodation. The disabilities office seems to be 
>>>> rather controlling in what it is willing to approve of as an
> accommodation.
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mikayla Gephart [mailto:mikgephart at icloud.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 5:13 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some 
>>>> Advice
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth, I understand some of the frustration. We are not at all 
>>>> implying that a training center would solve all your problems. How 
>>>> many of our members have left a training center, only to still need 
>>>> help with their colleges? could you practice with NVDA from 
>>>> wherever you are emailing right now? The more you practice, the better.
>>>> Blindness and health problems do not have to stop you from living 
>>>> the life
>>> y want.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I honestly wish I had never posted my email to this email list. I 
>>>>> really
>>>> hate the fact that it just seems like all you are wanting to do is 
>>>> tell me that an NFB training center is somehow going to solve all 
>>>> the problems in my life. Even if I could ever go to an NFB training 
>>>> center, I will probably never gain the Braille skills necessary to 
>>>> be able to use them in a testing situation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have never used a smart phone before, so this option would not 
>>>>> work for
>>>> me. There is absolutely no way I would be able to learn how to use 
>>>> it good enough to use for a test that is in two weeks. I am already 
>>>> trying to catch up in this class after being sick, so I am not 
>>>> looking to add anything more to my plate than what is already on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using NVDA sounds like a good option, but again, I have never used 
>>>>> it
>>>> before, and I cannot understand the voice that comes with it . So I 
>>>> am not quite sure how this option would work for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am sorry that I am not able to fight my college and the 
>>>>> vocational
>>>> rehabilitation all on my own. The Client Assistant Program does not 
>>>> do much of anything here. And no one in the NFB has never really 
>>>> been willing to help me either. All I wanted to do was to find a 
>>>> way to pass this class. But it looks as though I simply do not have 
>>>> the support, resources, and capacity to do the things I wanted to 
>>>> be able to
>>> do before my accident.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I should have never signed up to take this class. I really did not 
>>>>> have
>>>> the money to pay for it in the first place, and right now it just 
>>>> feels like this was only a waste of my money. And I should just 
>>>> learn that I am never going to be the same person that I was before my
> accident.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>> 
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