[nabs-l] Is It just Me: Academic Challenges

Karl Martin Adam kmaent1 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 19 23:08:27 UTC 2016 

Hi=20Aimee,

I=20know=20this=20won't=20solve=20a=20lot=20of=20the=20problems=20you're=20=
having,=20but=20
if=20you=20have=20trouble=20with=20grade=20two=20Braille,=20you=20could=20j=
ust=20get=20
your=20Braille=20documents=20uncontracted.=20=20I=20download=20all=20my=20b=
ookshare=20
books=20in=20uncontracted=20Braille=20because=20it=20makes=20converting=20t=
o=20
print=20easier=20and=20because=20bookshare=20doesn't=20always=20follow=20th=
e=20
rules=20of=20Braille=20and=20does=20things=20like=20use=20a=20short=20form=
=20word=20as=20
part=20of=20a=20longer=20word,=20which=20makes=20text=20to=20speech=20not=20=
be=20able=20to=20
read=20the=20file=20correctly.

Best,
Karl

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Aimee=20Harwood=20via=20NABS-L=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Tue,=2019=20Jul=202016=2016:03:03=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Is=20It=20just=20Me:=20Academic=20Challenges

Jameyanne,

I=20think=20one=20of=20my=20biggest=20issues=20time=20consumer=20or=20whate=
ver=20you=20
want=20to=20call=20it=20is=20that=20I=20have=20not=20been=20using=20jaws=20=
for=20the=20past=20
six=20years.=20I've=20also=20been=20out=20of=20the=20educational=20environm=
ent=20for=20
13=20years.=20When=20I=20did=20use=20JAWS,=20I=20knew=20the=20basics=20but=
=20not=20a=20lot=20of=20
the=20advanced=20commands.=20I=20also=20have=20not=20been=20a=20lifelong=20=
braille=20
reader.=20I=20don't=20really=20know=20a=20lot=20of=20the=20symbols=20for=20=
things=20other=20
than=20words=20and=20some=20punctuation.=20I=20don't=20know=20a=20lot=20of=
=20the=20markup=20
language=20for=20links=20lists=20or=20whatever=20identifiers=20they=20use=20=
to=20
indicate=20things=20within=20a=20grade=202=20braille=20document.=20I=20am=20=
one=20of=20
those=20visually=20impaired=20visual=20learners.=20That=20is=20why=20braill=
e=20
helps=20me=20understand=20it=20and=20remember=20it=20better.=20I=20wish=20I=
=20knew=20some=20
practice=20techniques=20to=20build=20speed=20and=20accuracy.

Aimee

Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Jul=2018,=202016,=20at=2010:14=20PM,=20Jameyanne=20Fuller=20via=20N=
ABS-L=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20Amy,
=20I=20haven't=20started=20law=20school,=20butt=20I=20volunteered=20for=20t=
he=20NH=20
disabilities=20rights=20center=20this=20past=20year,=20and=20they=20showed=
=20me=20how=20
to=20use=20Westlaw=20and=20how=20to=20do=20footnote=20citations.=20I=20foun=
d=20
footnotes=20worked=20pretty=20well=20with=20JAWS=20in=20MS=20Word,=20and=20=
I=20didn't=20
have=20any=20trouble=20using=20the=20Westlaw=20website=20on=20my=20laptop.=
=20Then=20
again,=20I=20wasn't=20doing=20very=20complicated=20stuff,=20so=20I=20might=
=20not=20have=20
the=20full=20picture.
=20Jameyanne

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20NABS-L=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20=

Aimee=20Harwood=20via=20NABS-L
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20July=2018,=202016=209:49=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20=

<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Cc:=20Aimee=20Harwood=20<awildheir at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Is=20It=20just=20Me:=20Academic=20Challenges=


=20Hello=20Ashly.=20=20I=20will=20agree=20with=20you=20on=20the=20extra=20t=
ime=20and=20fewer=20
credits.=20=20I=20wish=20those=20who=20take=20full=20credits=20and=20or=20d=
ouble=20major=20
would=20write=20a=20book=20on=20their=20process.=20=20I=20would=20love=20to=
=20be=20able=20to=20
do=20that.

=20As=20far=20as=20research=20goes,=20I=20am=20in=20law=20school=20and=20I=
=20use=20the=20iPad=20
version=20of=20lexis=20nexus=20and=20WestLaw=20which=20are=20pretty=20acces=
sible.=20=20
Blue=20book=20citations=20can=20be=20fun.=20=20I=20have=20not=20been=20requ=
ired=20to=20use=20
footnotes=20as=20of=20yet.=20=20Footnotes=20will=20happen=20in=20the=20spri=
ng.=20Aimee

=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Jul=2018,=202016,=20at=205:50=20PM,=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20via=20NAB=
S-L=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20Jameyanne,

=20I=20agree.=20You=20said=20it=20nicely=20to=20summarize=20the=20challenge=
s=20of=20
research.=20I=20also=20found=20all=20that=20to=20be=20the=20case.=20I=20kno=
w=20some=20
NFbers=20are=20against=20extended=20time,=20but=20=20=20I=20find=20it=20nec=
essary=20to=20do=20
well.=20I=20use=20extended=20time=20on=20exams.=20For=20assignments,=20I=20=
sometimes=20
get=20extentions=20particulary=20for=20research.

=20For=20research,=20databases=20are=20a=20mixed=20bag.=20Yes,=20jstor=20is=
=20fairly=20
usable=20but=20the=20pdfs=20are=20usually=20scanned=20images.
=20I=20have=20had=20the=20same=20difficulty=20citing=20sources=20because=20=
I=20don't=20
always=20know=20the=20page=20numbers=20since=20that=20does=20not=20scan=20w=
ell=20or=20if=20
I=20use=20a=20reader,=20the=20reader=20forgets=20to=20announce=20pages.
=20I=20also=20take=20extra=20time=20in=20the=20library=20finding=20print=20=
material=20
such=20as=20books.

=20Time=20management=20is=20a=20good=20thing=20to=20master.=20For=20me,=20I=
=20did=20my=20
homework=20and=20reading=20late=20afternoon=20and=20evening.=20II=20t=20als=
o=20
depended=20on=20my=20reader's=20schedule.=20Typically,=20my=20readers=20wer=
e=20
available=20at=203:30=20or=20later.=20Often,=20I'd=20use=20a=20reader=20rig=
ht=20before=20
dinner=20or=20right=20after=20dinner=20at=207:30.
=20Like=20some=20of=20you,=20I=20also=20threw=20my=20energy=20into=20academ=
ics=20and=20
neglected=20sleep.

=20Great=20discussion.=20I=20always=20took=20less=20credits=20than=20most=20=
students=20
and=20took=20longer=20in=20college.=20I=20thought=20I=20was=20the=20only=20=
one=20though=20
as=20many=20blind=20students=20here=20take=2018=20credits=20and=20double=20=
major.

=20So,=20yes=20its=20challenging=20but=20you=20have=20to=20find=20what=20wo=
rks=20for=20you.

=20Ashley
=20-----Original=20Message-----=20From:=20Jameyanne=20Fuller=20via=20NABS-L=

=20Sent:=20Monday,=20July=2018,=202016=204:33=20PM
=20To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'
=20Cc:=20Jameyanne=20Fuller
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Is=20It=20just=20Me:=20Academic=20Challenges=


=20My=20answer=20is=20also=20yes=20and=20no.=20I=20find=20I=20can=20search=
=20within=20a=20
textbook=20or
=20article=20faster=20because=20I=20can=20use=20a=20search=20function=20to=
=20find=20
exactly=20what=20I'm
=20looking=20for.=20On=20the=20other=20hand,=20I've=20also=20found=20that=20=
I=20take=20in=20
and=20remember
=20information=20better=20if=20I=20read=20it=20in=20Braille=20than=20if=20I=
=20listen=20to=20
it=20using
=20JAWS=20or=20the=20speech=20on=20my=20BrailleNote.=20It's=20faster=20to=20=
listen,=20but=20
I
=20inevitably=20lose=20focus=20or=20fall=20asleep.=20Like=20Cricket,=20slee=
p=20is=20
always=20like=20my
=20last=20priority,=20which=20is=20a=20bad=20idea.=20On=20the=20other=20han=
d,=20I=20don't=20
read=20Braille
=20quite=20as=20fast=20as=20my=20sighted=20peers=20read=20print,=20so=20som=
etimes=20
listening
=20becomes=20the=20only=20option=20if=20I=20want=20to=20keep=20up.=20One=20=
solution=20I've=20
come=20up
=20with=20is=20to=20have=20something=20to=20do=20with=20my=20hands=20while=
=20I'm=20
listening=20to=20an
=20article=20or=20textbook.=20I=20make=20gimp=20lanyards,=20fiddle=20with=20=
a=20puzzle,=20
draw=20with
=20my=20tactile=20drawing=20board,=20knit,=20wander=20around=20cleaning=20u=
p=20my=20
room=20and
=20folding=20laundry=20and=20such.=20It's=20not=20a=20perfect=20solution,=20=
but=20it=20
helps.
=20In=20terms=20of=20research,=20I=20think=20that=20definitely=20takes=20me=
=20more=20
time,
=20especially=20since=20I=20need=20assistance=20finding=20books=20in=20the=
=20library=20
and=20then
=20have=20to=20wait=20for=20the=20disabilities=20services=20office=20to=20s=
can=20them.=20
Databases
=20can=20be=20a=20mixed=20bag.=20I've=20found=20JSTOR=20to=20be=20pretty=20=
accessible.
=20One=20problem=20I've=20had=20a=20lot=20is=20the=20lack=20of=20page=20num=
bers=20in=20
scanned=20documents
=20or=20even=20page=20numbers=20in=20strange=20places=20so=20I=20could=20ne=
ver=20tell=20
what=20was=20on
=20which=20page=20and=20it=20was=20never=20consistent=20across=20the=20scan=
ned=20
documents=20from
=20disabilities=20services.=20I=20usually=20figured=20it=20out=20for=20each=
=20book=20
and=20made=20sure
=20to=20make=20my=20professors=20aware=20of=20the=20problem=20so=20they=20w=
ouldn't=20take=20
points=20off
=20if=20my=20intext=20citations=20cited=20the=20wrong=20page=20or=20so=20th=
ey=20would=20
give=20me=20a
=20phrase=20to=20find=20in=20the=20book=20rather=20than=20a=20page=20number=
=20when=20
discussing=20things
=20in=20class.
=20Take=20all=20of=20this=20with=20a=20grain=20of=20salt,=20because=20I=20w=
as=20last=20in=20
school=20two
=20years=20ago,=20and=20things=20might=20be=20different=20for=20me=20when=20=
I=20start=20up=20
again=20this
=20fall.

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20NABS-L=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20=

Karl=20Martin
=20Adam=20via=20NABS-L
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20July=2018,=202016=203:55=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20=

<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Cc:=20Karl=20Martin=20Adam=20<kmaent1 at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Is=20It=20just=20Me:=20Academic=20Challenges=


=20Well,=20the=20answer=20to=20this=20is=20yes=20and=20no.=20=20I=20find=20=
that=20I=20read=20
significantly
=20faster=20than=20cited=20people=20because=20my=20text=20to=20speech=20set=
=20to=20the=20
top=20speed=20is
=20faster=20than=20they=20can=20read,=20and=20it's=20significantly=20easier=
=20for=20me=20
to=20find
=20things=20in=20the=20book=20because=20I=20can=20search=20while=20they=20h=
ave=20to=20flip=20
through
=20their=20paper=20copy.
=20Doing=20research=20on=20the=20other=20hand=20is=20much=20more=20time=20c=
onsuming=20for=20
me=20because
=20of=20the=20difficulty=20of=20using=20databases=20and=20because=20of=20th=
e=20
inaccessibility=20of
=20print=20books=20in=20the=20library=20that=20sighted=20students=20can=20u=
se.=20=20I=20
also=20have
=20usually=20needed=20a=20sighted=20person's=20help=20getting=20my=20papers=
=20
correctly
=20formatted=20so=20everything=20looks=20right=20on=20the=20page.

=20HTH,
=20Karl

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20Christina=20Moore=20via=20NABS-L=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20=

<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2018=20Jul=202016=2015:21:59=20-0400
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Is=20It=20just=20Me:=20Academic=20Challenges

=20Hello=20Everyone,

=20I=20am=20wondering=20if=20it=20is=20just=20me=20or=20do=20other=20blind=
=20people=20have=20
challenges
=20academically=20that=20are=20due=20to=20their=20blindness.
=20Does=20anyone=20else=20find=20it=20challenging=20to=20search=20for=20inf=
ormation=20
in=20a
=20textbook?=20Do=20you=20feel=20it=20takes=20longer=20for=20you=20to=20com=
plete=20
assignments
=20because=20it=20takes=20you=20longer=20to=20read=20information=20that=20i=
s=20given=20to=20
you
=20utilizing=20text-to-speech=20software?=20Does=20anyone=20else=20find=20i=
t=20
challenging=20to
=20take=20online=20tests/exams=20in=20the=20allotted=20time?
=20I=20know=20that=20is=20quite=20a=20few=20questions=20but=20I?=EC=85=AB=20=
wondering=20if=20it=20
is=20just=20me=20or
=20if=20other=20people=20have=20these=20experiences.
=20What=20do=20you=20do=20to=20manage=20your=20assignments,=20papers=20and=
=20research
=20articles/information?
=20Thanks=20for=20any=20and=20all=20responses.
=20Christina
=20P.S.=20If=20I=20am=20set=20to=20no=20mail=20will=20I=20receive=20the=20r=
esponses=20to=20this=20
question
=20since=20I=20posted=20it?
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