[nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille

Thu Jul 7 23:41:30 UTC 2016

The El-Braille is made (or at least being sold) by Freedom 
Scientific and it comes with 14 cells of Braille built 
in--Perhaps there's another version that does not, but I had the 
14 cell model in my hands a few days ago at convention.  I 
wouldn't use one because I'm not really a fan of Windows or Jaws 
and because I want a full sized device with a QWERTY keyboard, 
but if you want a tiny device that could almost fit in your 
pocket and you like Windows 10 with Jaws,it looks like a good 
option.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: david.thomas at davidthetechguy.com, National Association of 
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Date sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 17:09:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo 
Braille

I'm saving up for a braille note touch.  That sounds much better 
then
the apex.  I've heard about that windows 10 notetaker, and unless 
you
like windows 10, I wouldn't get it.  You do know that you have to
order a focus 14 braille display for the device to have a braille
display.  I think Rusia makes that notetaker.

On 7/7/16, David Thomas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
 Hello,
 The notetaker missing in this discussion is the El Braille. This 
notetaker
 is a full Windows 10 Machine with 14 cells of refreshable 
braille, and a
 promising outlook as it will receive updates at the same time 
that other
 Windows 10 devices get updated. Another benefit of this device 
is the
 ability for network administrators to easily integrate it into
 pre-existing networks, and for the blind user to be able to use 
all
 business protocols such as exchange, Skype for Business, and 
other
 business collaboration packages on the market today. My worry 
about the
 group of Android notetakers that are being released to the 
market today is
 the possibility of them not being updated. An example of an 
Android
 notetaker gone wrong is the APH braille Plus that was released 
in 2011
 running 2.3 gingerbread. At that time gingerbread had been out 
for 1 year,
 and Google had already unveiled Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. 
Yes I
 understand it is a lot of work to keep a notetaker up-to-date, 
but it is
 really a necessary thing if we are expected to compete on a 
level playing
 field.
 The next question this brings me to is "Do we actually need a 
notetaker?"
 I personally have come to the conclusion of no, and have 
implemented a
 system using an iPhone, and a braille display for my simple note 
taker
 needs. This solution insures that I am using a mainstream device 
while
 retaining the lovely braille output we have come to love.
 Regards
 David Thomas

 -----Original Message-----
 From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Karl Martin
 Adam via NABS-L
 Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 3:27 PM
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 Cc: Karl Martin Adam
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo 
Braille

 The Neo is an Android notetaker with the ability to download and 
use all
 accessible Android apps from the Google Play Store, just like 
the Touch.
 The BrailleSense doesn't have that capability, and it's an older 
design,
 so you would have it for fewer years before they come out with 
the next
 hardware revision.  I didn't really compare the Neo to the 
BrailleSense in
 terms of specs because I was mostly looking at the Touch and the 
Neo.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: justin via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 14:37:38 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo 
Braille

 How does it stack up to the braille sense u2?
  Justin

 -----Original Message-----
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Karl Martin
 Adam via NABS-L
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:47 PM
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 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo 
Braille

 Yes I did see it.  The guy from Irie didn't know much about how 
the
 software or user interface works (Irie is only the distributor 
not the
 manufacturer), so I don't know how efficient it is to actually 
use.  It is
 less expensive than the Braillenote Touch though with 
significantly better
 memory, processor speed, and running a newer version of Android, 
and most
 importantly for me will have the option of a qwerty smart case, 
so I am
 very excited to learn more once it actually comes on the market 
at the end
 of the month.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:35:33 -0700
 Subject: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille

 Hi All,
 I was wondering if anyone at convention who went to the exhibit 
hall, saw
 the Neo-Braille, presented by Irie AT.  It is a notetaker that 
is so new
 that many people have not heard of it.
 In fact, I never heard it announced anywhere else at convention, 
so if I
 hadn't gone to their table I probably never would have heard 
about it
 myself.
 If you did see it, I would appreciate it if you could tell me 
your opinion
 on it and whether you feel it would make a good notetaker.  I 
currently
 have a Braille note and am looking within the next year of 
either getting
 the one I just described, or a Braille sense U 2.
 Thanks.
 Vejas

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