[nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille

Sun Jul 10 00:37:08 UTC 2016

I have a braille note apex at the moment, but the only reason I got
it, was because I want to upgrade to the touch, if I can come up with
the needed money.  I got a very good deal on it.  I got my apex for
1600.  I was able to come up with the money because of some
tech-support I gave teaching someone the victor stream.  I would most
go with the touch.  I want one so bad.

On 7/9/16, Cullen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I just remembered an advantage to the touch. In a firmware update, KNFB
> reader will be a part of the touch, so if you enjoy that amazing app, it
> will be included on the touch. Looking forward to testing that out.
> Cullen
>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ashley,
>>
>> As an Apex user, I would definitely suggest getting a newer notetaker like
>> the Touch or the Neo or maybe even the Braillesense.  I like my Apex a
>> lot, but the software is hopelessly out of date because it's running
>> Windows CE, which has been dead for years.  That means basically every
>> website I go to tells me that my browser is not supported and that I need
>> to upgrade to a modern browser, and a lot of them don't work at all.  It
>> still works now, but if you're going to buy something, I wouldn't invest
>> in a notetaker that is at the edge of being obsolete.  There are a few
>> things the Touch doesn't do that the Apex does.  It no longer reads
>> keyword files, and it now has a separate word processor that defaults to
>> using docx and a braille file reading and writing utility instead of one
>> word processor that can do both.  They've also gotten rid of block
>> commands and replaced it with highlighing chunks of text, which I
>> personally find annoying.  And the databases from keybase are no longer
>> supported, and there isn't a way of transfering the e-mail or address list
>> databases, though Mike Tindal told me there's a way of uploading my
>> addresses to GMail from the Apex so I'll still have them on the Touch.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Karl
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 16:57:10 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
>>
>> Hi Katie,
>> I'm also interested in a new notetaker. But I might just purchase the
>> apex
>> before they stop making them.
>> Does the braille note touch have everything the apex does plus more bells
>> and whistles?
>> How much does the braille note touch cost versus the neo braille?
>>
>> My understanding is the apex has internet capability through wifi built
>> into
>> it. It also has bluetooth connections available to a smart phone or
>> tablet
>> such as an ipod touch or ipad.
>> Also the apex has ability to read NLS books from bard unlike my braille
>> Note.
>> So, I think the apex or new Braille touch would meet my needs.
>> Still interested in the neo braille so I can decide.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Katie Wang via NABS-L
>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:15 PM
>> To: david.thomas at davidthetechguy.com ; National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing list
>> Cc: Katie Wang
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
>>
>> Hi Vejas and all,
>>
>> I also plan to replace my Braille Note Apex with a new note-taker
>> within the next year or so, so I'm very interested in this thread. I
>> have been intrigued by the Braille Note Touch - Do people have
>> specific opinions/thoughts about its user interface? Is the touch
>> screen intuitive to use? Could most functions be carried out using the
>> keyboard cover if one prefers not to use the touch screen? Thanks for
>> any input!
>>
>> Katie
>>
>> On 7/7/16, David Thomas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> The notetaker missing in this discussion is the El Braille. This
>> notetaker
>> is a full Windows 10 Machine with 14 cells of refreshable braille, and a
>> promising outlook as it will receive updates at the same time that other
>> Windows 10 devices get updated. Another benefit of this device is the
>> ability for network administrators to easily integrate it into
>> pre-existing networks, and for the blind user to be able to use all
>> business protocols such as exchange, Skype for Business, and other
>> business collaboration packages on the market today. My worry about the
>> group of Android notetakers that are being released to the market today
>> is
>> the possibility of them not being updated. An example of an Android
>> notetaker gone wrong is the APH braille Plus that was released in 2011
>> running 2.3 gingerbread. At that time gingerbread had been out for 1
>> year,
>> and Google had already unveiled Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. Yes I
>> understand it is a lot of work to keep a notetaker up-to-date, but it is
>> really a necessary thing if we are expected to compete on a level playing
>> field.
>> The next question this brings me to is "Do we actually need a notetaker?"
>> I personally have come to the conclusion of no, and have implemented a
>> system using an iPhone, and a braille display for my simple note taker
>> needs. This solution insures that I am using a mainstream device while
>> retaining the lovely braille output we have come to love.
>> Regards
>> David Thomas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
>> Adam via NABS-L
>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 3:27 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Cc: Karl Martin Adam
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
>>
>> The Neo is an Android notetaker with the ability to download and use all
>> accessible Android apps from the Google Play Store, just like the Touch.
>> The BrailleSense doesn't have that capability, and it's an older design,
>> so you would have it for fewer years before they come out with the next
>> hardware revision.  I didn't really compare the Neo to the BrailleSense
>> in
>> terms of specs because I was mostly looking at the Touch and the Neo.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: justin via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 14:37:38 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
>>
>> How does it stack up to the braille sense u2?
>> Justin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
>> Adam via NABS-L
>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:47 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
>>
>> Yes I did see it.  The guy from Irie didn't know much about how the
>> software or user interface works (Irie is only the distributor not the
>> manufacturer), so I don't know how efficient it is to actually use.  It
>> is
>> less expensive than the Braillenote Touch though with significantly
>> better
>> memory, processor speed, and running a newer version of Android, and most
>> importantly for me will have the option of a qwerty smart case, so I am
>> very excited to learn more once it actually comes on the market at the
>> end
>> of the month.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:35:33 -0700
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I was wondering if anyone at convention who went to the exhibit hall, saw
>> the Neo-Braille, presented by Irie AT.  It is a notetaker that is so new
>> that many people have not heard of it.
>> In fact, I never heard it announced anywhere else at convention, so if I
>> hadn't gone to their table I probably never would have heard about it
>> myself.
>> If you did see it, I would appreciate it if you could tell me your
>> opinion
>> on it and whether you feel it would make a good notetaker.  I currently
>> have a Braille note and am looking within the next year of either getting
>> the one I just described, or a Braille sense U 2.
>> Thanks.
>> Vejas
>>
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