[nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
Karl Martin Adam
kmaent1 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 10 06:41:51 UTC 2016
Just a quick correction, the Touch still has Keyword as its word
processor. It just no longer has the proprietary Keyword file
type and defaults to DOCX instead.
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Braille
Hello,
I use my notetaker for reading books and writing documents and
the documents
are primarily for my own notes so I don't need to do anything
fancy for
formatting.
Katie, sounds like you and me use our devices for the same stuff.
I have loved and gotten used to the good and simple word
processor called
keyword and know the braille note touch does not have it.
I understand the internet may be limiting. Maybe I'll try
someone's apex out
and see. I just don't like the idea of buying a braille note
touch. I might
like the neo braille better.
Someone said this new notetaker has a 32 cell display and an sd
slot.
>From little I've learned, the neo braille would fit my needs,
too.
I really want my next notetaker to have 32 cells since that's
what I'm used
to on my Braille note empower.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Wang via NABS-L
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo
Braille
Hi Ashley,
I agree with the others that it is not a good idea to invest in a
Braille Note Apex. Even though it supposedly has email and
Internet
connectivity, it is not compatible with most websites and email
servers. I mostly use mine for reading books and writing
documents
these days and still really love the unit for these features, but
the
newer note-takers being discussed on this thread can do so much
more.
I have actually been contemplating getting a Braille Sense U2 for
a
while, but now the Touch and the Neobraille have come out I will
hold
off on making the switch and see what these options might have to
offer.
Katie
On 7/9/16, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
I have a braille note apex at the moment, but the only reason I
got
it, was because I want to upgrade to the touch, if I can come up
with
the needed money. I got a very good deal on it. I got my apex
for
1600. I was able to come up with the money because of some
tech-support I gave teaching someone the victor stream. I would
most
go with the touch. I want one so bad.
On 7/9/16, Cullen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I just remembered an advantage to the touch. In a firmware
update, KNFB
reader will be a part of the touch, so if you enjoy that amazing
app, it
will be included on the touch. Looking forward to testing that
out.
Cullen
On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hi Ashley,
As an Apex user, I would definitely suggest getting a newer
notetaker
like
the Touch or the Neo or maybe even the Braillesense. I like my
Apex a
lot, but the software is hopelessly out of date because it's
running
Windows CE, which has been dead for years. That means basically
every
website I go to tells me that my browser is not supported and
that I
need
to upgrade to a modern browser, and a lot of them don't work at
all. It
still works now, but if you're going to buy something, I
wouldn't invest
in a notetaker that is at the edge of being obsolete. There are
a few
things the Touch doesn't do that the Apex does. It no longer
reads
keyword files, and it now has a separate word processor that
defaults to
using docx and a braille file reading and writing utility
instead of one
word processor that can do both. They've also gotten rid of
block
commands and replaced it with highlighing chunks of text, which
I
personally find annoying. And the databases from keybase are no
longer
supported, and there isn't a way of transfering the e-mail or
address
list
databases, though Mike Tindal told me there's a way of uploading
my
addresses to GMail from the Apex so I'll still have them on the
Touch.
HTH,
Karl
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Braille
Hi Katie,
I'm also interested in a new notetaker. But I might just
purchase the
apex
before they stop making them.
Does the braille note touch have everything the apex does plus
more
bells
and whistles?
How much does the braille note touch cost versus the neo
braille?
My understanding is the apex has internet capability through
wifi built
into
it. It also has bluetooth connections available to a smart phone
or
tablet
such as an ipod touch or ipad.
Also the apex has ability to read NLS books from bard unlike my
braille
Note.
So, I think the apex or new Braille touch would meet my needs.
Still interested in the neo braille so I can decide.
Ashley
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From: Katie Wang via NABS-L
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo
Braille
Hi Vejas and all,
I also plan to replace my Braille Note Apex with a new
note-taker
within the next year or so, so I'm very interested in this
thread. I
have been intrigued by the Braille Note Touch - Do people have
specific opinions/thoughts about its user interface? Is the
touch
screen intuitive to use? Could most functions be carried out
using the
keyboard cover if one prefers not to use the touch screen?
Thanks for
any input!
Katie
On 7/7/16, David Thomas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hello,
The notetaker missing in this discussion is the El Braille. This
notetaker
is a full Windows 10 Machine with 14 cells of refreshable
braille, and a
promising outlook as it will receive updates at the same time
that other
Windows 10 devices get updated. Another benefit of this device
is the
ability for network administrators to easily integrate it into
pre-existing networks, and for the blind user to be able to use
all
business protocols such as exchange, Skype for Business, and
other
business collaboration packages on the market today. My worry
about the
group of Android notetakers that are being released to the
market today
is
the possibility of them not being updated. An example of an
Android
notetaker gone wrong is the APH braille Plus that was released
in 2011
running 2.3 gingerbread. At that time gingerbread had been out
for 1
year,
and Google had already unveiled Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
Yes I
understand it is a lot of work to keep a notetaker up-to-date,
but it is
really a necessary thing if we are expected to compete on a
level
playing
field.
The next question this brings me to is "Do we actually need a
notetaker?"
I personally have come to the conclusion of no, and have
implemented a
system using an iPhone, and a braille display for my simple note
taker
needs. This solution insures that I am using a mainstream device
while
retaining the lovely braille output we have come to love.
Regards
David Thomas
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Karl Martin
Adam via NABS-L
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo
Braille
The Neo is an Android notetaker with the ability to download and
use all
accessible Android apps from the Google Play Store, just like
the Touch.
The BrailleSense doesn't have that capability, and it's an older
design,
so you would have it for fewer years before they come out with
the next
hardware revision. I didn't really compare the Neo to the
BrailleSense
in
terms of specs because I was mostly looking at the Touch and the
Neo.
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Braille
How does it stack up to the braille sense u2?
Justin
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Braille
Yes I did see it. The guy from Irie didn't know much about how
the
software or user interface works (Irie is only the distributor
not the
manufacturer), so I don't know how efficient it is to actually
use. It
is
less expensive than the Braillenote Touch though with
significantly
better
memory, processor speed, and running a newer version of Android,
and
most
importantly for me will have the option of a qwerty smart case,
so I am
very excited to learn more once it actually comes on the market
at the
end
of the month.
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From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:35:33 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone at convention who went to the exhibit
hall,
saw
the Neo-Braille, presented by Irie AT. It is a notetaker that
is so new
that many people have not heard of it.
In fact, I never heard it announced anywhere else at convention,
so if I
hadn't gone to their table I probably never would have heard
about it
myself.
If you did see it, I would appreciate it if you could tell me
your
opinion
on it and whether you feel it would make a good notetaker. I
currently
have a Braille note and am looking within the next year of
either
getting
the one I just described, or a Braille sense U 2.
Thanks.
Vejas
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