From mausbun at unr.edu Sat Apr 1 05:03:40 2017 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 05:03:40 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Don't deny, aim high! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3603CD8A-2830-491D-86E5-14C80CD6A915@unr.edu> Hello NABSters: The time we have all been anticipating is finally upon us! It is time for us to remind our congressional deligation, “Don’t Deny, Aim High!” Please join the Legislative Committee of the National Association of Blind Students this Sunday, April 2nd, at 9:00 Eastern, as Gabe Cazares, our government afairs specialist, provides us with an update and direction for future action concerning H.R.1772, the Accessible Instructional Matirials in Higher Education Act. The call in information is as follows: Number: (605) 475-6700 Access Code: 7869673 I look forword to talking with you all! Remember, Don’t deny, Aim High! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun, Secretary, national Association of Blind Students From Justin.A.Haegele at hotmail.com Sat Apr 1 13:27:13 2017 From: Justin.A.Haegele at hotmail.com (Justin Haegele) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:27:13 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Male Participants Needed: Research Recruitment about Physical Education Experiences Message-ID: Dear NFB Discussion List: We have received a wonderful response from women who are interested in participating in the below study. We are currently looking for 5 more male participants who would be willing to participate. Please review the below message and Thank you! We are conducting a study exploring the experiences of males and females with visual impairments in physical education. We are looking at how both gender and having a visual impairment impacted physical education experiences. To conduct this study we need the participation of adult aged-individuals with visual impairments. This study will ask participants to complete a 60-90 minute interview with a research team member, and to communicate via email several times afterwards. We are searching for 20 individuals who are legally blind, 18 to 35 years of age, and had a visual impairment during their k-12 experience. All participants who complete the 60-90 minute interview will receive a $20.00 gift cards. If you, or someone you know, is interested in participating in this study, please email Justin Haegele at jhaegele at odu.edu. If you have any questions regarding this study, please contact me. My information is below. Thank you, Justin A. Haegele, PhD, CAPE Assistant Professor Health & Physical Education Department of Human Movement Sciences Old Dominion University (757) 683-5338 2009 Student Recreation Center Norfolk, VA 23529 From Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu Sat Apr 1 12:01:34 2017 From: Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte (Student)) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:01:34 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes For March Message-ID: <7151E5F3-7409-4108-A9C2-1085A320EF3A@asu.edu> Greetings NABS, Welcome to a new month and new updates from NABS. Attached is a file containing the NABS Notes for March. We apologize that they are being sent out this way but the website is undergoing maintenance at the moment. As soon as the website is complete the NABS Notes will be posted and the link will be sent out. Thank you for being patient with us and enjoy this months NABS Notes. If you have any questions or comments please contact Bryan at bjduarte at asu.edu Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nabs.president at gmail.com Sat Apr 1 12:13:47 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 08:13:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Action needed: call Sunday, April 2 at 9pm eastern; FW: Don't Deny, AIm High! Message-ID: <081e01d2aae1$6ad08660$40719320$@gmail.com> From: Michael [mailto:mausbun at nevada.unr.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:47 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: 'Kathryn Webster, NABS President' Subject: Don't Deny, AIm High! Hello NABSters: The time we have all been anticipating is finally upon us! It is time for us to remind our congressional deligation, "Don't Deny, Aim High!" Please join the Legislative Committee of the National Association of Blind Students this Sunday, April 2nd, at 9:00 Eastern, as Gabe Cazares, our government afairs specialist, provides us with an update and direction for future action concerning H.R.1772, the Accessible Instructional Matirials in Higher Education Act. The call in information is as follows: Number: (605) 475-6700 Access Code: 7869673 I look forword to talking with you all! Remember, Don't deny, Aim High! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun, Secretary, national Association of Blind Students From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Sat Apr 1 04:46:51 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 23:46:51 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Don't Deny, AIm High! Message-ID: <001901d2aaa2$fb17f1c0$f147d540$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello NABSters: The time we have all been anticipating is finally upon us! It is time for us to remind our congressional deligation, "Don't Deny, Aim High!" Please join the Legislative Committee of the National Association of Blind Students this Sunday, April 2nd, at 9:00 Eastern, as Gabe Cazares, our government afairs specialist, provides us with an update and direction for future action concerning H.R.1772, the Accessible Instructional Matirials in Higher Education Act. The call in information is as follows: Number: (605) 475-6700 Access Code: 7869673 I look forword to talking with you all! Remember, Don't deny, Aim High! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun, Secretary, national Association of Blind Students From annajee82 at gmail.com Sat Apr 1 19:16:25 2017 From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:16:25 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Don't Deny, AIm High! In-Reply-To: <001901d2aaa2$fb17f1c0$f147d540$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <001901d2aaa2$fb17f1c0$f147d540$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: <12D222BB-5EF2-4744-93F4-0FAC4254CF03@gmail.com> Can we get notes about this? UnfortunatelyI have conference call conflicts at that time. Anna E Givens > On Mar 31, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Michael via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello NABSters: > > The time we have all been anticipating is finally upon us! > It is time for us to remind our congressional deligation, "Don't Deny, Aim > High!" Please join the Legislative Committee of the National Association of > Blind Students this Sunday, April 2nd, at 9:00 Eastern, as Gabe Cazares, our > government afairs specialist, provides us with an update and direction for > future action concerning H.R.1772, the Accessible Instructional Matirials in > Higher Education Act. The call in information is as follows: > > Number: (605) 475-6700 > > Access Code: 7869673 > > I look forword to talking with you all! Remember, Don't deny, Aim High! > > Respectfully, > > Michael Ausbun, Secretary, national Association of Blind Students > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Sat Apr 1 19:18:25 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 14:18:25 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Don't Deny, AIm High! In-Reply-To: <12D222BB-5EF2-4744-93F4-0FAC4254CF03@gmail.com> References: <001901d2aaa2$fb17f1c0$f147d540$@nevada.unr.edu> <12D222BB-5EF2-4744-93F4-0FAC4254CF03@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001101d2ab1c$bcb97370$362c5a50$@nevada.unr.edu> I will be taking notes, and will send them out to the list following the meeting. Respectfully, Michael Ausbun -----Original Message----- From: Anna Givens [mailto:annajee82 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 2:16 PM To: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Don't Deny, AIm High! Can we get notes about this? UnfortunatelyI have conference call conflicts at that time. Anna E Givens > On Mar 31, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Michael via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello NABSters: > > The time we have all been anticipating is finally upon us! > It is time for us to remind our congressional deligation, "Don't Deny, > Aim High!" Please join the Legislative Committee of the National > Association of Blind Students this Sunday, April 2nd, at 9:00 Eastern, > as Gabe Cazares, our government afairs specialist, provides us with an > update and direction for future action concerning H.R.1772, the > Accessible Instructional Matirials in Higher Education Act. The call in information is as follows: > > Number: (605) 475-6700 > > Access Code: 7869673 > > I look forword to talking with you all! Remember, Don't deny, Aim High! > > Respectfully, > > Michael Ausbun, Secretary, national Association of Blind Students > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail. > com From sawhney.kartik at gmail.com Sun Apr 2 02:03:28 2017 From: sawhney.kartik at gmail.com (sawhney.kartik) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 07:33:28 +0530 Subject: [nabs-l] Mentorship for people with disabilities in tech Message-ID: <11c601d2ab55$54621690$fd2643b0$@gmail.com> Hi all, Here is an exciting opportunity for students interested in tech. NextBillion.org is now accepting mentor & mentee applications for its second mentorship program for people with disabilities. Cohort 2 is 12-week, online mentorship program (Apr 24 - July 10) that connects 30 students with disabilities with industry leaders from top tech companies (Facebook, Google, Microsoft, PayPal, Amazon etc) to build their own tech-related project ideas. Each mentor-mentee pair is matched based on personal stories & goals. Through the mentorship program & community, each mentee has the opportunity to bring their tech-project ideas to life, learn about the industry through webinars, develop personally and access employment opportunities from companies. Mentors and mentees in North America, interested in engineering, product, design, technology or science can apply to be a part of Cohort 2. You can read success stories from Cohort 1 to learn more about the first cohort. Apply as a mentor or mentee on www.NextBillion.org . The last date to apply is April 14, 2017. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me. Best, -Kartik -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nextbillion.org_cohort2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 73618 bytes Desc: not available URL: From desai1shikha at gmail.com Sun Apr 2 18:59:11 2017 From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 14:59:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention Message-ID: <4A111B6A-C1C7-4DDD-9431-8778554E940F@gmail.com> Hey, I have booked a room at national convention. I am looking for room mates. I am scared I won't find anyone because I don't know that many people in the nfb. I have booked from july 9 to 16 My number is 678-641-9906 Thanks, Shikha. From kskristen at gmail.com Mon Apr 3 18:51:41 2017 From: kskristen at gmail.com (Kristen) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:51:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Voxer Message-ID: <58e299f1.1a0f6b0a.5fbc7.29bf@mx.google.com> Hi, everyone-- Does anyone use Voxer with VO? I downloaded it and signed up, but parts of it seem inaccessible. The Play button on new messages is dimmed. Is there a work-around to listening to messages? Thanks! -- Kristen From ligne14 at verizon.net Tue Apr 4 01:36:25 2017 From: ligne14 at verizon.net (Sami Osborne) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 21:36:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Excel Message-ID: <0ONV00C0T35Q8F90@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Hi all, My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of our grade for the essay. Thanks and have a good night, Sami From rexschuttler at gmail.com Tue Apr 4 02:30:28 2017 From: rexschuttler at gmail.com (Rex Schuttler) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 21:30:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Excel In-Reply-To: <0ONV00C0T35Q8F90@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0ONV00C0T35Q8F90@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <9B7FF289-2564-4C9B-85E2-FFEFEF009099@gmail.com> Hello, My first question is how did she send it to you. Was it in a attachment with the email? If it was sent as an attachment. You need to save it to your computer. Then go into your downloads folder and find the file. Then head your application key it will bring up a drop-down box. Up arrow to the properties tab and hit enter on that. Then tab threw it into you hear something that says on block checked any need to on check that. Then it should open up the file to view. And then once you do that tab over to apply hit and then tap to you OK and hit . Then it should be able to open up and you should be able to view it that way. That's the way I think could fix it. I hope this works for you. And if you have any questions please feel free to ask for me directly in the email thread. Rex Schuttler Second vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma President of the Central chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma cell phone number 918-955-6761 > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. > > I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of our grade for the essay. > > Thanks and have a good night, > > Sami > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gmail.com From ligne14 at verizon.net Tue Apr 4 02:58:18 2017 From: ligne14 at verizon.net (Sami Osborne) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 22:58:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Excel Message-ID: <0ONV00L2I6Y8R5B0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Hi Rex, Thanks for your help, but that wasn't exactly my question. I have no problems opening the Excel spreadsheet. The only thing I'm asking is how to navigate it and actually view its contents. Thanks again, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Rex Schuttler wrote: Hi all, My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of our grade for the essay. Thanks and have a good night, Sami _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler% 40gmail.com From jldail13 at gmail.com Tue Apr 4 03:10:52 2017 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 23:10:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Excel In-Reply-To: <0ONV00L2I6Y8R5B0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0ONV00L2I6Y8R5B0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <02720279-A955-4F7F-A3A0-234B684838DC@gmail.com> Hi, I have a few questions for you, that may help us answer your question. 1. What screen-reader are you using? 2. What operating system are you using? 3. Have you tried Google sheets? Thanks, Jessica > On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Rex, > > Thanks for your help, but that wasn't exactly my question. I have no problems opening the Excel spreadsheet. The only thing I'm asking is how to navigate it and actually view its contents. > > Thanks again, > > Sami > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rex Schuttler > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 21:30:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel > > Hello, > > My first question is how did she send it to you. Was it in a attachment with the email? If it was sent as an attachment. You need to save it to your computer. Then go into your downloads folder and find the file. Then head your application key it will bring up a drop-down box. Up arrow to the properties tab and hit enter on that. Then tab threw it into you hear something that says on block checked any need to on check that. Then it should open up the file to view. And then once you do that tab over to apply hit and then tap to you OK and hit . Then it should be able to open up and you should be able to view it that way. That's the way I think could fix it. I hope this works for you. And if you have any questions please feel free to ask for me directly in the email thread. Rex Schuttler > Second vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma > President of the Central chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma > cell phone number > 918-955-6761 > > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi all, > > My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. > > I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of our grade for the essay. > > Thanks and have a good night, > > Sami > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler% > 40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From ligne14 at verizon.net Tue Apr 4 03:22:44 2017 From: ligne14 at verizon.net (Sami Osborne) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 23:22:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Excel Message-ID: <0ONV004OT82Y1H60@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Hi Jessica and all, For info, I'm using JAWS 17 with Windows 7 64 bits. Thanks once again, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: Hi Rex, Thanks for your help, but that wasn't exactly my question. I have no problems opening the Excel spreadsheet. The only thing I'm asking is how to navigate it and actually view its contents. Thanks again, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Rex Schuttler > wrote: Hi all, My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of our grade for the essay. Thanks and have a good night, Sami _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler% References: <0ONV004OT82Y1H60@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <021201d2ad2f$ec15de50$c4419af0$@gmail.com> Tab and arrow keys will let you move through the spreadsheet. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 11:23 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel Hi Jessica and all, For info, I'm using JAWS 17 with Windows 7 64 bits. Thanks once again, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: Hi Rex, Thanks for your help, but that wasn't exactly my question. I have no problems opening the Excel spreadsheet. The only thing I'm asking is how to navigate it and actually view its contents. Thanks again, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Rex Schuttler > wrote: Hi all, My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of our grade for the essay. Thanks and have a good night, Sami _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler% References: <0ONV004OT82Y1H60@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <002001d2ad40$44f0f540$ced2dfc0$@visi.com> Sami, Generally speaking, you navigate a spreadsheet with the arrow keys. However, instead of moving by characters as you do in a word processor, you move cell by cell. Each press of the arrow key should give you the contents of the cell and also the coordinates, that is, the column and row. The column is indicated by a letter and a row is indicated by a number. The top left of a spreadsheet is indicated by A1. It is possible to change this, though. CONTROL HOME goes to the upper left and HOME to the beginning of the row. The END key has another use, though. The END key is usually the first of a two key sequence to move to different parts of the spreadsheet. There are other ways to move as well. There is some formatting on spreadsheets that can make navigating them less predictable. Someone else can set up their spreadsheet to hide certain columns and rows, merge some together, and have a cell in one row "span" multiple columns. You might try creating your own spreadsheet first to get the hang of all this. If this helps, some of us might be able to suggest documents that can help you get started with Excel. There is even some on the Microsoft Accessibility web page that could be useful. Is it this kind of basic information you need? Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:23 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel Hi Jessica and all, For info, I'm using JAWS 17 with Windows 7 64 bits. Thanks once again, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: Hi Rex, Thanks for your help, but that wasn't exactly my question. I have no problems opening the Excel spreadsheet. The only thing I'm asking is how to navigate it and actually view its contents. Thanks again, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Rex Schuttler > wrote: Hi all, My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of our grade for the essay. Thanks and have a good night, Sami _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler% Hi, As the subject says, my podcasts are seriously stuck. None of my downloads have moved for days. What should I do? Also, how can I get my podcasts on my BN touch? Thanks, Jessica From jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com Wed Apr 5 00:34:03 2017 From: jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com (Jason Polansky) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 20:34:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Excel In-Reply-To: <002001d2ad40$44f0f540$ced2dfc0$@visi.com> References: <0ONV004OT82Y1H60@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> <002001d2ad40$44f0f540$ced2dfc0$@visi.com> Message-ID: <1FC8866D-7268-498F-BA94-68FCEDE8580E@gmail.com> The free on line Excel course through the Hadley Institute is a decent way to get started. If you're looking for more advanced information, then you may want to invest $90 in a book from Access Tech Institute at blind.training The site is set up almost like ablog, but it contains links to purchase the materials, and she will send you a link to a zip file that you have to download, I believe within 48 hours of receiving it. Hope this helps. > On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L wrote: > > Sami, > > Generally speaking, you navigate a spreadsheet with the arrow keys. > However, instead of moving by characters as you do in a word processor, you > move cell by cell. Each press of the arrow key should give you the contents > of the cell and also the coordinates, that is, the column and row. The > column is indicated by a letter and a row is indicated by a number. The top > left of a spreadsheet is indicated by A1. It is possible to change this, > though. CONTROL HOME goes to the upper left and HOME to the beginning of > the row. The END key has another use, though. The END key is usually the > first of a two key sequence to move to different parts of the spreadsheet. > There are other ways to move as well. > > There is some formatting on spreadsheets that can make navigating them less > predictable. Someone else can set up their spreadsheet to hide certain > columns and rows, merge some together, and have a cell in one row "span" > multiple columns. You might try creating your own spreadsheet first to get > the hang of all this. > > If this helps, some of us might be able to suggest documents that can help > you get started with Excel. There is even some on the Microsoft > Accessibility web page that could be useful. Is it this kind of basic > information you need? > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:23 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Sami Osborne > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel > > Hi Jessica and all, > > For info, I'm using JAWS 17 with Windows 7 64 bits. > > Thanks once again, > > Sami > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jessica Dail via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 23:10:52 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel > > Hi, > I have a few questions for you, that may help us answer your > question. > 1. What screen-reader are you using? > 2. What operating system are you using? > 3. Have you tried Google sheets? > > Thanks, > Jessica > > On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Rex, > > Thanks for your help, but that wasn't exactly my question. I > have no problems opening the Excel spreadsheet. The only thing > I'm asking is how to navigate it and actually view its contents. > > Thanks again, > > Sami > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rex Schuttler To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 21:30:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel > > Hello, > > My first question is how did she send it to you. Was it in a > attachment with the email? If it was sent as an attachment. You > need to save it to your computer. Then go into your downloads > folder and find the file. Then head your application key it will > bring up a drop-down box. Up arrow to the properties tab and hit > enter on that. Then tab threw it into you hear something that > says on block checked any need to on check that. Then it should > open up the file to view. And then once you do that tab over to > apply hit and then tap to you OK and hit . Then it should be > able to open up and you should be able to view it that way. > That's the way I think could fix it. I hope this works for you. > And if you have any questions please feel free to ask for me > directly in the email thread. Rex Schuttler > Second vice President of the national Federation of the blind of > Oklahoma > President of the Central chapter of the national Federation of > the blind of Oklahoma > cell phone number > 918-955-6761 > > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > > wrote: > > Hi all, > > My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel > spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet > with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with > Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to > navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the > only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as > "A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each > columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) > don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it > arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their > assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. > > I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really > necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of > our grade for the essay. > > Thanks and have a good night, > > Sami > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account > info for NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler% > % > 40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account > info for NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gm > ail.com > mail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver > izon.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co > m > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jpolansky.nfb%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Wed Apr 5 02:28:41 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 21:28:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Excel In-Reply-To: <002001d2ad40$44f0f540$ced2dfc0$@visi.com> References: <0ONV004OT82Y1H60@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> <002001d2ad40$44f0f540$ced2dfc0$@visi.com> Message-ID: There are two things I would add to Steve's excellent overview. In Excel, if you move to a blank cell and start typing, it will be put in that cell, tab to move to next cell. If you move to a cell that has an entry you want to edit or change, hit F2. Dave At 07:37 AM 4/4/2017, you wrote: >Sami, > >Generally speaking, you navigate a spreadsheet with the arrow keys. >However, instead of moving by characters as you do in a word processor, you >move cell by cell. Each press of the arrow key should give you the contents >of the cell and also the coordinates, that is, the column and row. The >column is indicated by a letter and a row is indicated by a number. The top >left of a spreadsheet is indicated by A1. It is possible to change this, >though. CONTROL HOME goes to the upper left and HOME to the beginning of >the row. The END key has another use, though. The END key is usually the >first of a two key sequence to move to different parts of the spreadsheet. >There are other ways to move as well. > >There is some formatting on spreadsheets that can make navigating them less >predictable. Someone else can set up their spreadsheet to hide certain >columns and rows, merge some together, and have a cell in one row "span" >multiple columns. You might try creating your own spreadsheet first to get >the hang of all this. > >If this helps, some of us might be able to suggest documents that can help >you get started with Excel. There is even some on the Microsoft >Accessibility web page that could be useful. Is it this kind of basic >information you need? > >Best regards, > >Steve Jacobson > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne >via NABS-L >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:23 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Sami Osborne >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel > >Hi Jessica and all, > >For info, I'm using JAWS 17 with Windows 7 64 bits. > >Thanks once again, > >Sami > > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Jessica Dail via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Date sent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 23:10:52 -0400 >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel > >Hi, >I have a few questions for you, that may help us answer your >question. >1. What screen-reader are you using? >2. What operating system are you using? >3. Have you tried Google sheets? > >Thanks, >Jessica > > On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Rex, > > Thanks for your help, but that wasn't exactly my question. I >have no problems opening the Excel spreadsheet. The only thing >I'm asking is how to navigate it and actually view its contents. > > Thanks again, > > Sami > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rex Schuttler To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 21:30:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question about Excel > > Hello, > > My first question is how did she send it to you. Was it in a >attachment with the email? If it was sent as an attachment. You >need to save it to your computer. Then go into your downloads >folder and find the file. Then head your application key it will >bring up a drop-down box. Up arrow to the properties tab and hit >enter on that. Then tab threw it into you hear something that >says on block checked any need to on check that. Then it should >open up the file to view. And then once you do that tab over to >apply hit and then tap to you OK and hit . Then it should be >able to open up and you should be able to view it that way. >That's the way I think could fix it. I hope this works for you. >And if you have any questions please feel free to ask for me >directly in the email thread. Rex Schuttler > Second vice President of the national Federation of the blind of >Oklahoma > President of the Central chapter of the national Federation of >the blind of Oklahoma > cell phone number > 918-955-6761 > > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L >> wrote: > > Hi all, > > My English professor sent my class an email with an Excel >spreadsheet, detailing the times/dates that we all have to meet >with her for our essays. I have almost zero experience with >Excel, and when I opened the spreadsheet last night, I tried to >navigate it, but I wasn't able to view the actual contents - the >only thing I saw were the different columns and rows such as >"A1," "A2," etc. How do you actually view the contents of each >columns and rows? Every command (tab key, arrows, and enter key) >don't seem to work. I believe the way my professor has it >arranged is that the name of each student in the class plus their >assigned meeting timeslot are in separate columns/rows. > > I hope you guys can help me with this, because it's really >necessary that I meet with my professor; this meeting is part of >our grade for the essay. > > Thanks and have a good night, > > Sami From amc05111 at gmail.com Wed Apr 5 13:58:23 2017 From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley Coleman) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 09:58:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: Spread the Word! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003d01d2ae14$b1d60d60$15822820$@gmail.com> Please distribute to your friends. Space is limited. The Envisioning Youth Empowerment is a nonprofit based in Raleigh that hosts an annual summer camp to help those with visual impairments be successful in college. We'd invite you to apply to be a participate for 2017 in our summer camp from July 28 to August 5. We hope that after participating in our program this year, you will want to return for 2018 as a mentor and group leader. Our program is based on application of real wordl skills on the NC State campus and in the City of Raleigh. It is also based on peer mentoring principles and sharing of community resources. Check out our website at www.eyeretreat.org for more information or contact me. Dr. Alan A. Chase Exceptional Children Program Facilitator, Durham Public Schools President & Director, Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Wed Apr 5 18:48:20 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 13:48:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Aim High Call Notes Message-ID: <001f01d2ae3d$326f03a0$974d0ae0$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello Everyone, Please find below information from the call that took place on Sunday. There is a lot of information here. Please also find attached a packet put together by Harry Stayley, Sanantonio chapter president and Texas Association of Blind Students board member. This packet can be used in your meetings to help obtain letters of support for Aim High. Thanks for all you do! National Association of Blind Students A proud Division of the national Federation of the Blind Legislative Committee April 22, 2017 Don't Deny, Aim High! The National Federation of the Blind's legislative priorities are on the move! The following information CAN BE USED TO HELP YOU MOVE OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES: The Accessible Instructional materials in Higher Education act (Aim High) H.R. 1772 AIM-HEA: H.R.1772 Committee: House - Education and the Workforce Sponsor: Rep. Roe, David P. [R-TN-1] (Introduced 03/29/2017) Originating Cosponsor: Rep. Courtney, Joe [D-CT-2] Cosponsors: Rep. Kinzinger, Adam [R-IL-16] Rep. Krishnamoorthi, Raja [D-IL-8] Rep. Kildee, Daniel T. [D-MI-5] Rep. Price, David E. [D-NC-4] Rep. Thompson, Bennie G. [D-MS-2] Rep. Thompson, Glenn [R-PA-5] Call to action: We need students to write their congressional representative's staff an email, requesting that their member of congress please support Aim High, H.R. 1772. This week is critical, as congress will be leaving for their Easter break at the end of this week. They will be out of office for two weeks. To find your representative, please follow this link: http://www.house.gov If your congressional representative is one of the following, it is critical that you contact them (please note: all congressional representatives need to be contacted, but especially these ones): Republicans Rep. Virginia Foxx, North Carolina (Chair) Rep. Joe Wilson, South Carolina (Vice Chair) Rep. Duncan Hunter, California Rep. David P. Roe, Tennessee Rep. Glenn "GT" Thompson, Pennsylvania Rep. Tim Walberg, , Michigan Rep. Brett Guthrie, Kentucky Rep. Todd Rokita, Indiana Rep. Lou Barletta, Pennsylvania Rep. Luke Messer, Indiana Rep. Bradley Byrne, Alabama Rep. David Brat, Virginia Rep. Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin Rep. Steve Russell, Oklahoma Rep. Elise Stefanik, New York Rep. Rick W. Allen, Georgia Rep. Jason Lewis, Minnesota Rep. Francis Rooney, Florida Rep. Paul Mitchell, Michigan Rep. Tom Garrett, Jr., Virginia Rep. Lloyd K. Smucker, Pennsylvania Rep. A. Drew Ferguson, IV, Georgia Vacancy Democrats Rep. Robert C. "Bobby" Scott (Ranking Member), Virginia Rep. Susan A. Davis, California Rep Raul M. Grijalva, Arizona Rep. Joe Courtney, Connecticut Rep. Marcia L. Fudge, Ohio Rep. Jared Polis, Colorado Rep. Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan, Northern Mariana Islands Rep. Frederica S. Wilson, Florida Rep. Suzanne Bonamici, Oregon Rep. Mark Takano, California Rep. Alma S. Adams, North Carolina Rep. Mark DeSaulnier, California Rep. Donald Norcross, New Jersey Rep. Lisa Blunt Rochester, Delaware Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, Illinois Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire Rep. Adriano Espaillat, New York Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Development Brett Guthrie, Kentucky (Chairman) Glenn "GT" Thompson, Pennsylvania Lou Barletta, Pennsylvania Luke Messer, Indiana Bradley Byrne, Alabama Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin Elise Stefanik, New York Rick W. Allen, Georgia Jason Lewis, Minnesota Paul Mitchell, Michigan Tom Garrett, Jr., Virginia Lloyd K. Smucker, Pennsylvania Susan A. Davis, California (Ranking Member) Joe Courtney, Connecticut Alma S. Adams, North Carolina Mark DeSaulnier, California Raja Krishnamoorthi, Illinois Jared Polis, Colorado Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan, Northern Mariana Islands Mark Takano, California Lisa Blunt Rochester, Delaware Adriano Espaillat, New York What does Aim High Do: Aim high formulates a commission made up of all relevant stakeholders. The job of the commission is to develop voluntary accessibility guidelines, so that institutions and manufacturers will possess the knowledge of what is necessary to include to make materials accessible for people with disabilities. Additionally, the commission will create a list of annotated national and international standards. The commission will have student presence and faculty presence as well. What do we need from you to ensure Aim High's passage? We are still looking for student testimonials. We need you all to write letters, explaining your accessibility experience at your institutions of higher education. Good or bad, both are important! Additionally, we need letters of support from institutions (the president or policy making entity), stating that they support Aim high, H.R. 1772. Once you have received these letters, please send them to either Michael Ausbun, Chair of the legislative committee, at mausbun at nevada.unr.edu , Kathryn Webster, President of NABS, at nabs.president at gmail.com , or Gabe Cazares, Government Affairs specialist, at gcazares at nfb.org Additional Resources: For information pertaining to Aim High, please visit this link: http://www.Nfb.org/AIM_HIGH We are using the hashtag #DontDenyAimHigh You should use it loud and proud! If you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact Gabe at the National office, extension 2206, or by the above email address. 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If you'd like, you may also double-tap and hold the button, then swipe up or down until you hear what you want. note: when doing the swiping, keep your finger on the screen, from when you did the double-tap and hold. On Apr 5, 2017 5:04 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > How can I insert an emoji such as a smiley face on my I-Phone using Voice-Over? I've turned on the emoji keyboard but can't find it in the rotor. > Thanks, > Vejas > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 02:37:51 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 22:37:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Announcing the 2017 NFB BELL Academy of North Carolina Message-ID: Hello! I hope this message finds you in good health and high spirits! ! I am excited to inform you about the 2017 Braille Enrichment through Learning and Literacy, or BELL) Academy of North Carolina! The BELL Academy prepares blind and low vision children, ages four through twelve, to grow into confident and independent blind people who will live the lives they want. The program provides Braille and non-visual skills instruction in the areas of cane travel, cooking, independent living, assistive technology, and of course braille! Children will also engage in braille crafts & games, socialize with other blind children, interact with blind adults who serve as mentors, and enjoy field trips. Through these activities and interactions, the children learn that blindness or low vision does not define them or their future. Although the BELL Academy targets blind and low-vision children who do not receive enough Braille and nonvisual skill instruction in school or who could benefit from Braille enrichment over the summer, it is also perfect for any low vision child you know (regardless of their braille skill level or visual acuity). This year, BELL Academy will be hosted in the capital city of Raleigh, on the campus of the Governor Morehead School for the Blind! The Academy will begin on Monday June 12th and conclude on Friday June 23rd. Sign up the blind child, or children, you know and love today at: https://nfb.org/bell-academy-faqs-affiliate/nc Feel free to contact me with any questions you may have via phone at (336) 988-6375 or e-mail at bobbipompey at gmail.com. Also, if you or someone you know wants to serve as a staff member at the BELL Academy, please let me know! Bobbi A. L. Pompey Program Coordinator- BELL Academy of North Carolina (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin From ahc43 at drexel.edu Sun Apr 9 14:36:24 2017 From: ahc43 at drexel.edu (Alex Cohen) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 10:36:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] New Policy-Based Consumer Research Study About Online Accessibility Issues Message-ID: <011601d2b13e$a9e03ea0$fda0bbe0$@drexel.edu> Hi Everyone, Thank you for helping me with my previous research. The dissertation is going great and I'll be finished at the end of May. I am working on a new research article and I was hoping you may be able to help me again. Blind and low vision participants answer questions about policy issues regarding online accessibility of commercial websites, and how they would react to two different online accessibility-related conditions. It should take about 10-15 minutes to complete, and I think it's as accessible and user-friendly as it can be. Participation is completely voluntary and you can stop taking the survey at any time. For your participation you will be entered into a drawing to win a $250 Amazon gift card. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. This survey is brand new and just got approval from the Drexel University IRB, so I would welcome any feedback you may have. Feel free to call me or email (ahc43 at drexel.edu (. Here's the link. Thanks, Alex https://drexel.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_a5D7KnUJjJKsEpT Alex H. Cohen Ph.D. Candidate Marketing Department LeBow College of Business Drexel University 3220 Market St. Philadelphia, PA 19104 Cell: 215.292.1455< tel:215.292.1455> From mjc59 at comcast.net Sun Apr 9 17:17:01 2017 From: mjc59 at comcast.net (mjc59 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] New Policy-Based Consumer Research Study About Online Accessibility Issues In-Reply-To: <011601d2b13e$a9e03ea0$fda0bbe0$@drexel.edu> References: <011601d2b13e$a9e03ea0$fda0bbe0$@drexel.edu> Message-ID: <379363995.3074849.1491758221854.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sun Apr 9 20:58:09 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 15:58:09 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction Message-ID: <013701d2b173$ff6fad30$fe4f0790$@gmail.com> Good afternoon, everyone: My name is Cory McMahon, and I'm from Missouri. After much encouragement from others, I'm now in college; I'm attending a community college where I live, pursuing a Bachelor's degree in Human Services, with the goal of advancement at my current place of employment. I've found my niche working in the field of developmental disabilities. Anyway, I look forward to getting to know all of you, and learning from and contributing to discussions on-list. Sincerely, Cory McMahon From knownoflove at gmail.com Sun Apr 9 21:45:11 2017 From: knownoflove at gmail.com (Miranda) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:45:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: <013701d2b173$ff6fad30$fe4f0790$@gmail.com> References: <013701d2b173$ff6fad30$fe4f0790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9DFE9951-69AD-4DCE-B450-542CB5BB2298@gmail.com> Hi Cory, Welcome to this list. I too am interested in human services, although I am taking a different angle. I am currently in my bachelors in interdisciplinary studies with areas of study and global studies, teaching English as a second language, and human services. I will be transferring to a bachelors of social work in the fall, as I plan to get my Masters in social work. Are you familiar with the human services division and it's mailing list? Considering that you are pursuing a degree in human services, you may find this division and related mailing list helpful. You should be able to find the information for the mailing list on the same website where you found the subscription information for this student list. I hope this is helpful, and again welcome! Best wishes, Miranda Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Good afternoon, everyone: > > > > My name is Cory McMahon, and I'm from Missouri. > > > > After much encouragement from others, I'm now in college; I'm attending a > community college where I live, pursuing a Bachelor's degree in Human > Services, with the goal of advancement at my current place of employment. > I've found my niche working in the field of developmental disabilities. > > > > Anyway, I look forward to getting to know all of you, and learning from and > contributing to discussions on-list. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%40gmail.com From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 21:47:28 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:47:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Straight Canes Message-ID: <1A382D2F-B9D3-4417-A7D4-E2E7A75EE7C7@yahoo.com> Hello all! I hope you have enjoyed your weekend. I would like to know of places I can purchase a straight, non-folding, non-rolling white cane. I am familiar with those offered by NfB, Commander, and Bob Riley. But, I would like to find other places to buy them. If you know of any places I would love to know their name and any other information you may have. Thanks! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin From ka.yat.li at gmail.com Sun Apr 9 22:22:46 2017 From: ka.yat.li at gmail.com (Ka Li) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 18:22:46 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Straight Canes In-Reply-To: <1A382D2F-B9D3-4417-A7D4-E2E7A75EE7C7@yahoo.com> References: <1A382D2F-B9D3-4417-A7D4-E2E7A75EE7C7@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi: Ambutech sells straight canes. The neat thing about them is that you have lots of customization options. The site is https://ambutech.com/ Hope this helps. Ka On 4/9/2017 5:47 PM, Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L wrote: > Hello all! I hope you have enjoyed your weekend. > > I would like to know of places I can purchase a straight, non-folding, non-rolling white cane. I am familiar with those offered by NfB, Commander, and Bob Riley. But, I would like to find other places to buy them. If you know of any places I would love to know their name and any other information you may have. > > Thanks! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ka.yat.li%40gmail.com -- Ka Li From carolinarose422 at gmail.com Mon Apr 10 03:23:32 2017 From: carolinarose422 at gmail.com (Kiana Harlan) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 23:23:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Participation Requested for a School Research Study Message-ID: Hi! I have a small favor to ask everyone. I am currently conducting a study in my social work research class. It's on hiring and retention with people who have disabilities. It's nothing that will be published, as I am only in undergrad, but hopefully if it goes well, I can continue it in my graduate studies. I have completed certification to work with human participants, and I have permission of my instructor to distribute this questionnaire. I would appreciate it if you guys would be willing to take a few minutes to fill out the survey. I will paste the link below. All responses will be confidential, and no usernames will be collected from the responses. The project is usually a group effort, but I decided to do mine on my own, so I will be the only one who sees the responses. I'd also be more than happy to send out copies of my paper once it is completed to those of you who are curious about the findings. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEG3Eazubh5787qYXZq6XmiUobYxJltVxhT5B-1bSRGtCaPw/viewform?c=0&w=1 If anyone has any questions or concerns about the study, feel free to ask! Thanks, Kiana Harlan From jtorres3263 at gmail.com Mon Apr 10 05:45:17 2017 From: jtorres3263 at gmail.com (Jeanette) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 01:45:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane Message-ID: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. If there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like to find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of any places I would like to know their name and any other information you have. Thanks Jeanette Torres From louvins at gmail.com Mon Apr 10 08:59:44 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 03:59:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those telescoping canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any day.

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On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: > I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, non-rolling > white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar with those offered > by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or folding canes that much. I > do like straight canes from Bob Riley. If there is not a telescoping cane > like Bob Riley then I would like to find other places that make telescoping > canes. If you know of any places I would like to know their name and any > other information you have. > Thanks > Jeanette Torres > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Mon Apr 10 12:34:17 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:34:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21A8AB0F-E15E-495F-BA45-0CD9F2F3175E@gmail.com> I prefer to use a regular folding cane. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: > > Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those telescoping > canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. > I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any > day. > >> On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: >> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, non-rolling >> white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar with those offered >> by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or folding canes that much. I >> do like straight canes from Bob Riley. If there is not a telescoping cane >> like Bob Riley then I would like to find other places that make telescoping >> canes. If you know of any places I would like to know their name and any >> other information you have. >> Thanks >> Jeanette Torres >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Mon Apr 10 13:31:19 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:31:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> I like my telescoping cane and have not had problems with it collapsing. NFB has them. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:00 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Joshua Hendrickson ; Jeanette Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those telescoping canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any day.

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On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: > I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, > non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar > with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or > folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. If > there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like to > find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of any > places I would like to know their name and any other information you have. > Thanks > Jeanette Torres > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.co > m > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon Apr 10 14:26:41 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:26:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> Message-ID: What is a telescoping cane? On 4/10/17, Sarah via NABS-L wrote: > I like my telescoping cane and have not had problems with it collapsing. NFB > has them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua > Hendrickson via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:00 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Joshua Hendrickson ; Jeanette > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane > > Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those telescoping > canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. > I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any day. > > On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: >> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, >> non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar >> with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or >> folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. If >> there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like to >> find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of any >> places I would like to know their name and any other information you >> have. >> Thanks >> Jeanette Torres >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.co >> m >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 10 21:07:23 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:07:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: <013701d2b173$ff6fad30$fe4f0790$@gmail.com> References: <013701d2b173$ff6fad30$fe4f0790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301d2b23e$74d861a0$5e8924e0$@sbcglobal.net> Welcome to the list! My name is Jen; I am a medical transcription student. I look forward to your contributions on the list. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 4:58 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction Good afternoon, everyone: My name is Cory McMahon, and I'm from Missouri. After much encouragement from others, I'm now in college; I'm attending a community college where I live, pursuing a Bachelor's degree in Human Services, with the goal of advancement at my current place of employment. I've found my niche working in the field of developmental disabilities. Anyway, I look forward to getting to know all of you, and learning from and contributing to discussions on-list. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Mon Apr 10 21:35:16 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:35:16 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: <000301d2b23e$74d861a0$5e8924e0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <013701d2b173$ff6fad30$fe4f0790$@gmail.com> <000301d2b23e$74d861a0$5e8924e0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <008201d2b242$59390360$0bab0a20$@gmail.com> Awesome. I explored braille transcription for a while, so I'm aware of the "transcription world." -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 4:07 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Introduction Welcome to the list! My name is Jen; I am a medical transcription student. I look forward to your contributions on the list. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 4:58 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction Good afternoon, everyone: My name is Cory McMahon, and I'm from Missouri. After much encouragement from others, I'm now in college; I'm attending a community college where I live, pursuing a Bachelor's degree in Human Services, with the goal of advancement at my current place of employment. I've found my niche working in the field of developmental disabilities. Anyway, I look forward to getting to know all of you, and learning from and contributing to discussions on-list. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From dandrews at visi.com Tue Apr 11 01:38:58 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:38:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Apply for the 2017 NBCUniversal Tony Coelho Media Scholarship Message-ID: > >Subject: Apply for the 2017 NBCUniversal Tony Coelho Media Scholarship > >Date: April 10, 2017 > > >As you will see below, the American Association of People with >Disabilities is announcing the NBCUniversal Tony Coelho Media >Scholarship. The scholarship is available to undergraduate and >graduate students with disabilities who are pursuing an interest in >the media, entertainment, or communications fields. > >Here is the announcement: > >Thanks to a generous contribution from NBCUniversal, the American >Association of People with Disabilities (AAPD) is proud to offer >eight (8) NBCUniversal Tony Coelho Media Scholarships for students >with disabilities in 2017. > >Eligible applicants include undergraduate and graduate students with >disabilities who are interested in pursuing a career in the >communications, media, or entertainment industry. Each recipient >will receive $5,625 to help cover the cost of education at their >current college or university. > >The online application must be completed by 5pm ET on June 19, 2017. > >The American Association of People with Disabilities (AAPD) is a >convener, connector, and catalyst for change, increasing the >political and economic power of people with disabilities. > >2017 NBCUniversal Tony Coelho Media Scholarship > >The 2017 application is now open! > >Thanks to a generous contribution from NBCUniversal, the American >Association of People with Disabilities (AAPD) is proud offer eight >(8) NBCUniversal Tony Coelho Media Scholarships in 2017. > >The NBCUniversal Tony Coelho Media Scholarship is available to >undergraduate and graduate students with disabilities who are >pursuing an interest in the media, entertainment, or communications >fields. Each recipient will receive $5,625 to help cover the cost of education. > >This scholarship has been named in honor of Tony Coelho, a former >United States Representative from California and the primary author >and sponsor of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). > >For more information please visit the AAPD website. > >DEADLINE: June 19, 2017 | 5pm ET > >+++++ > >the information contained in this communication is for information >purposes only and does not constitute an endorsement or request for >action by the NCSAB > >David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer >State Services for the Blind >2200 University Ave. W., Suite 240, St. Paul, MN 55114-1840 >Direct: 651-539-2294 | Mobile: 612-730-7931 >Web | Twitter | >Facebook > >Title: MN DEED logo > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 19e4d8cd.png Type: image/png Size: 15810 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dandrews at visi.com Tue Apr 11 02:21:45 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:21:45 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> Message-ID: A telescoping cane is a kind of folding, or collapsible cane. As you move down the cane, each section is smaller than the one above it, so it collapses, or telescopes into itself, becoming one section long. You pull the cane out firmly and give a little twist, it tends to hold the sections out in their extended mode. The major problem with this cane is that one or more sections can collapse as you use it. If you aren't a heavy tapper, you may like its convenience. Dave It is like the old radio antennas on portable radios. You pushed down on the top piece and it went inside the one below and so on until it was collapsed. Dave At 09:26 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote: >What is a telescoping cane? > >On 4/10/17, Sarah via NABS-L wrote: > > I like my telescoping cane and have not had problems with it > collapsing. NFB > > has them. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua > > Hendrickson via NABS-L > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:00 AM > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Joshua Hendrickson ; Jeanette > > > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane > > > > Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those telescoping > > canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. > > I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any day. > > > > On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: > >> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, > >> non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar > >> with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or > >> folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. If > >> there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like to > >> find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of any > >> places I would like to know their name and any other information you > >> have. > >> Thanks > >> Jeanette Torres From blackbyrdfly at gmail.com Tue Apr 11 02:33:50 2017 From: blackbyrdfly at gmail.com (Jamie P.) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:33:50 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> Message-ID: <6B1A442C-15DA-47C8-9266-97F4C4EA648D@gmail.com> I have a telescoping came from NFB that I use when I am traveling by plane or working in my lab where tripping hazards or a cane getting knocked over when not in use could be a serious problem. I've had it for two years now and have only experienced two instances of it collapsing accidentally when I was walking. On both of these occasions, I had been traveling between states and went quickly from a very warm to a very cold environment. So I suspect it was caused by thermal contraction of the carbon fiber. It hasn't happened any other time. You just have to give it a good tug when you expand it. I definitely recommend carbon fiber over fiberglass though. My old telescoping cane was fiberglass, and it collapsed all the time. And eventually shattered when I tried to collapse it on purpose and got little bits of fiber glass stuck in my skin, which hurt. But the carbon fiber is much sturdier, and doesn't collapse accidentally under normal use. -Jamie Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2017, at 20:21, David Andrews via NABS-L wrote: > > A telescoping cane is a kind of folding, or collapsible cane. As you move down the cane, each section is smaller than the one above it, so it collapses, or telescopes into itself, becoming one section long. You pull the cane out firmly and give a little twist, it tends to hold the sections out in their extended mode. The major problem with this cane is that one or more sections can collapse as you use it. If you aren't a heavy tapper, you may like its convenience. > > Dave > > It is like the old radio antennas on portable radios. You pushed down on the top piece and it went inside the one below and so on until it was collapsed. > > Dave > > At 09:26 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote: >> What is a telescoping cane? >> >> On 4/10/17, Sarah via NABS-L wrote: >> > I like my telescoping cane and have not had problems with it collapsing. NFB >> > has them. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua >> > Hendrickson via NABS-L >> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:00 AM >> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Cc: Joshua Hendrickson ; Jeanette >> > >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane >> > >> > Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those telescoping >> > canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. >> > I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any day. >> > >> > On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, >> >> non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar >> >> with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or >> >> folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. If >> >> there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like to >> >> find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of any >> >> places I would like to know their name and any other information you >> >> have. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jeanette Torres > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com From misokwak12 at gmail.com Tue Apr 11 03:38:33 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:38:33 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Requesting Participation in a Research Study for Senior Capstone Project Message-ID: Hello, I am Miso Kwak, a senior at University of California, Los Angeles. As a senior capstone project for Disability Studies minor, I am currently conducting a research on the relationship between accessibility of music education and self-esteem of blind/visually impaired students enrolled in middle school and high school. Participation in the research consists of answering an online survey which includes mostly multiple choice questions and a few short-answer questions, and should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. If you are a blind/visually impaired student currently enrolled in middle school or high school, please consider participating in this study. If you know someone who meet this criteria, I would greatly appreciate if you could forward this email so they can participate. You may access the survey here: https://goo.gl/forms/tsXj07Tr52DpZm3c2 Please complete the survey by May 10 2017. If you have any questions about the study, please do not hesitate to contact me or my faculty advisor using the contact information below. Miso Kwak, principle investigator: misokwak at ucla.edu Dr. Lily Chen-Hafteck, faculty advisor: lhafteck at ucla.edu Sincerely, Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Tue Apr 11 14:12:29 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:12:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction In-Reply-To: <008201d2b242$59390360$0bab0a20$@gmail.com> References: <013701d2b173$ff6fad30$fe4f0790$@gmail.com> <000301d2b23e$74d861a0$5e8924e0$@sbcglobal.net> <008201d2b242$59390360$0bab0a20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome On 4/10/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Awesome. I explored braille transcription for a while, so I'm aware of the > "transcription world." > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 4:07 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Introduction > > Welcome to the list! My name is Jen; I am a medical transcription student. > > I look forward to your contributions on the list. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon > via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 4:58 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction > > Good afternoon, everyone: > > > > My name is Cory McMahon, and I'm from Missouri. > > > > After much encouragement from others, I'm now in college; I'm attending a > community college where I live, pursuing a Bachelor's degree in Human > Services, with the goal of advancement at my current place of employment. > I've found my niche working in the field of developmental disabilities. > > > > Anyway, I look forward to getting to know all of you, and learning from and > contributing to discussions on-list. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Tue Apr 11 14:38:02 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:38:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> Message-ID: <013701d2b2d1$39499bc0$abdcd340$@gmail.com> What about if you are a constant contact type of person and not a tapper. Will this type of cane still work for someone like that? Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 10:22 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Andrews Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane A telescoping cane is a kind of folding, or collapsible cane. As you move down the cane, each section is smaller than the one above it, so it collapses, or telescopes into itself, becoming one section long. You pull the cane out firmly and give a little twist, it tends to hold the sections out in their extended mode. The major problem with this cane is that one or more sections can collapse as you use it. If you aren't a heavy tapper, you may like its convenience. Dave It is like the old radio antennas on portable radios. You pushed down on the top piece and it went inside the one below and so on until it was collapsed. Dave At 09:26 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote: >What is a telescoping cane? > >On 4/10/17, Sarah via NABS-L wrote: > > I like my telescoping cane and have not had problems with it > collapsing. NFB > > has them. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua > > Hendrickson via NABS-L > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:00 AM > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > > > Cc: Joshua Hendrickson ; Jeanette > > > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane > > > > Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those > > telescoping canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. > > I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any > > day. > > > > On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: > >> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, > >> non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar > >> with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or > >> folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. > >> If there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like > >> to find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of > >> any places I would like to know their name and any other > >> information you have. > >> Thanks > >> Jeanette Torres _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 11 15:12:41 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:12:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: <013701d2b2d1$39499bc0$abdcd340$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> <013701d2b2d1$39499bc0$abdcd340$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2b2d6$1103e8a0$330bb9e0$@sbcglobal.net> I have a telescoping cane. I'm not a heavy tapper, but I'm a "constant conact" person on walls and landmarks, and my cane works for me. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:38 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Aaron Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane What about if you are a constant contact type of person and not a tapper? Will this type of cane still work for someone like that? Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 10:22 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Andrews Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane A telescoping cane is a kind of folding, or collapsible cane. As you move down the cane, each section is smaller than the one above it, so it collapses, or telescopes into itself, becoming one section long. You pull the cane out firmly and give a little twist, it tends to hold the sections out in their extended mode. The major problem with this cane is that one or more sections can collapse as you use it. If you aren't a heavy tapper, you may like its convenience. Dave It is like the old radio antennas on portable radios. You pushed down on the top piece and it went inside the one below and so on until it was collapsed. Dave At 09:26 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote: >What is a telescoping cane? > >On 4/10/17, Sarah via NABS-L wrote: > > I like my telescoping cane and have not had problems with it > collapsing. NFB > > has them. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua > > Hendrickson via NABS-L > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:00 AM > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > > > Cc: Joshua Hendrickson ; Jeanette > > > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane > > > > Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those > > telescoping canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use them. > > I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any > > day. > > > > On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: > >> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, > >> non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar > >> with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or > >> folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. > >> If there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like > >> to find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of > >> any places I would like to know their name and any other > >> information you have. > >> Thanks > >> Jeanette Torres _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From keribcu at gmail.com Tue Apr 11 15:26:00 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:26:00 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info Message-ID: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> Greetings, I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any help. Mary Mount University George Washington University American University Fairly Dickenson University Roger Williams University. As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. thank you, -- Keri Svendsen From ignasicambra at gmail.com Tue Apr 11 15:40:42 2017 From: ignasicambra at gmail.com (Ignasi Cambra) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:40:42 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B83B46F-B9BA-4122-874B-703E73DC7AF6@gmail.com> I lived in NYC while attending Juilliard. Let me know if I can be of any help! IC Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Apr 2017, at 17:26, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L wrote: > > Greetings, > > I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any help. > > Mary Mount University > George Washington University > American University > Fairly Dickenson University > Roger Williams University. > As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. > > thank you, > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue Apr 11 21:06:30 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:06:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will you do in grad school? Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student there. I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do you want to know? Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info Greetings, I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any help. Mary Mount University George Washington University American University Fairly Dickenson University Roger Williams University. As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. thank you, -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From dandrews at visi.com Tue Apr 11 22:25:43 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:25:43 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane In-Reply-To: <013701d2b2d1$39499bc0$abdcd340$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b1bd$a24c9970$e6e5cc50$@gmail.com> <003001d2b1fe$bee05c70$3ca11550$@sarahblakelarose.com> <013701d2b2d1$39499bc0$abdcd340$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, it should although this is not a yes/no question as much as it is a personal preference question. Dave At 09:38 AM 4/11/2017, you wrote: >What about if you are a constant contact type of person and not a tapper. >Will this type of cane still work for someone like that? > > >Thanks, >Aaron Linson >CEO Blind Faith Project >CEO Linson Productions >Aaron Linson > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews >via NABS-L >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 10:22 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: David Andrews >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane > >A telescoping cane is a kind of folding, or collapsible cane. As you move >down the cane, each section is smaller than the one above it, so it >collapses, or telescopes into itself, becoming one section long. You pull >the cane out firmly and give a little twist, it tends to hold the sections >out in their extended mode. The major problem with this cane is that one or >more sections can collapse as you use it. If you aren't a heavy tapper, you >may like its convenience. > >Dave > >It is like the old radio antennas on portable radios. You pushed down on >the top piece and it went inside the one below and so on until it was >collapsed. > >Dave > >At 09:26 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote: > >What is a telescoping cane? > > > >On 4/10/17, Sarah via NABS-L wrote: > > > I like my telescoping cane and have not had problems with it > > collapsing. NFB > > > has them. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua > > > Hendrickson via NABS-L > > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:00 AM > > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > > > > > Cc: Joshua Hendrickson ; Jeanette > > > > > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescoping Cane > > > > > > Janette. I've heard nothing bad about those who had those > > > telescoping canes. I heard they collapse to easy when people try to use >them. > > > I'll take a regular folding cane instead of a straight cane any > > > day. > > > > > > On 4/10/17, Jeanette via NABS-L wrote: > > >> I would like to know of places I can purchase a telescoping, > > >> non-rolling white cane like Bob Riley straight canes. I am familiar > > >> with those offered by the NfB, but, I do not like there straight or > > >> folding canes that much. I do like straight canes from Bob Riley. > > >> If there is not a telescoping cane like Bob Riley then I would like > > >> to find other places that make telescoping canes. If you know of > > >> any places I would like to know their name and any other > > >> information you have. > > >> Thanks > > >> Jeanette Torres From keribcu at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 00:09:05 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:09:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> Message-ID: I'll be doing a masters in Forensic psychology. You went to Mary Mount, so what were your likes and dislikes about the school? How was disability services in working with you? While I'd consider use of braille exams, I've been so used to doing them electronically since the school where I'm doing my undergrad can't provide braille. Did you live on or off campus? How did you find or I suppose find transportation there? I'm really looking for any and all advice and tips. I plan to be in the area at the end of this summer to visit the three schools. I'm hoping to either find someone willing to host me for three or four days, or find a cheap hotel. On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will > you do in grad school? > Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask > because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. > > I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student > there. > > I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do > you want to know? > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Keri Svendsen > Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info > > Greetings, > > I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak > to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the > area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any > help. > > Mary Mount University > George Washington University > American University > Fairly Dickenson University > Roger Williams University. > As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, > and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who > has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. > > thank you, > -- Keri Svendsen From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 00:42:44 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 19:42:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <00aa01d2b325$b3672950$1a357bf0$@gmail.com> Good luck with your masters! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 7:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info I'll be doing a masters in Forensic psychology. You went to Mary Mount, so what were your likes and dislikes about the school? How was disability services in working with you? While I'd consider use of braille exams, I've been so used to doing them electronically since the school where I'm doing my undergrad can't provide braille. Did you live on or off campus? How did you find or I suppose find transportation there? I'm really looking for any and all advice and tips. I plan to be in the area at the end of this summer to visit the three schools. I'm hoping to either find someone willing to host me for three or four days, or find a cheap hotel. On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will > you do in grad school? > Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask > because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. > > I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student > there. > > I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do > you want to know? > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Keri Svendsen > Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info > > Greetings, > > I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to > speak to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived > in the area who can provide me with useful information. I'll > appreciate any help. > > Mary Mount University > George Washington University > American University > Fairly Dickenson University > Roger Williams University. > As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, > and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone > who has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. > > thank you, > -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From emitchell927 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 01:06:22 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:06:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: <00aa01d2b325$b3672950$1a357bf0$@gmail.com> References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> <00aa01d2b325$b3672950$1a357bf0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi I'm Emma Mitchell I go to Gw and I would like to help. My number is 2023224294 Sent from my iPad > On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Good luck with your masters! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen > via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 7:09 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Keri Svendsen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info > > I'll be doing a masters in Forensic psychology. > > You went to Mary Mount, so what were your likes and dislikes about the > school? How was disability services in working with you? While I'd consider > use of braille exams, I've been so used to doing them electronically since > the school where I'm doing my undergrad can't provide braille. > > Did you live on or off campus? How did you find or I suppose find > transportation there? > > I'm really looking for any and all advice and tips. > > I plan to be in the area at the end of this summer to visit the three > schools. I'm hoping to either find someone willing to host me for three or > four days, or find a cheap hotel. > > >> On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >> I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will >> you do in grad school? >> Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask >> because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. >> >> I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student >> there. >> >> I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do >> you want to know? >> >> Ashley >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L >> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Keri Svendsen >> Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info >> >> Greetings, >> >> I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to >> speak to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived >> in the area who can provide me with useful information. I'll >> appreciate any help. >> >> Mary Mount University >> George Washington University >> American University >> Fairly Dickenson University >> Roger Williams University. >> As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, >> and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone >> who has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. >> >> thank you, >> > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 12 01:34:27 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:34:27 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <000201d2b32c$ed4e99d0$c7ebcd70$@sbcglobal.net> I took a course in forensic psychology in college once, it was fascinating. Good luck on your master's degree, and please keep us posted! Hjen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info I'll be doing a masters in Forensic psychology. You went to Mary Mount, so what were your likes and dislikes about the school? How was disability services in working with you? While I'd consider use of braille exams, I've been so used to doing them electronically since the school where I'm doing my undergrad can't provide braille. Did you live on or off campus? How did you find or I suppose find transportation there? I'm really looking for any and all advice and tips. I plan to be in the area at the end of this summer to visit the three schools. I'm hoping to either find someone willing to host me for three or four days, or find a cheap hotel. On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will > you do in grad school? > Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask > because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. > > I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student > there. > > I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do > you want to know? > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Keri Svendsen > Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info > > Greetings, > > I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak > to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the > area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any > help. > > Mary Mount University > George Washington University > American University > Fairly Dickenson University > Roger Williams University. > As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, > and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who > has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. > > thank you, > -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From chris.omeally at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 12:55:18 2017 From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'meally) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:55:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: <000201d2b32c$ed4e99d0$c7ebcd70$@sbcglobal.net> References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> <000201d2b32c$ed4e99d0$c7ebcd70$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I live in central VA, and know a lot of people who went to those schools. let me contact them and dig some stuff up for ya On 4/11/17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > I took a course in forensic psychology in college once, it was fascinating. > Good luck on your master's degree, and please keep us posted! > > Hjen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen > via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:09 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Keri Svendsen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info > > I'll be doing a masters in Forensic psychology. > > You went to Mary Mount, so what were your likes and dislikes about the > school? How was disability services in working with you? While I'd > consider use of braille exams, I've been so used to doing them > electronically since the school where I'm doing my undergrad can't > provide braille. > > Did you live on or off campus? How did you find or I suppose find > transportation there? > > I'm really looking for any and all advice and tips. > > I plan to be in the area at the end of this summer to visit the three > schools. I'm hoping to either find someone willing to host me for three > or four days, or find a cheap hotel. > > > On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >> I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will >> you do in grad school? >> Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask >> because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. >> >> I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student >> there. >> >> I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do >> you want to know? >> >> Ashley >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L >> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Keri Svendsen >> Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info >> >> Greetings, >> >> I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak >> to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the >> area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any >> help. >> >> Mary Mount University >> George Washington University >> American University >> Fairly Dickenson University >> Roger Williams University. >> As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, >> and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who >> has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. >> >> thank you, >> > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com > -- Very Respectfully, Christopher O’Meally. NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. Chris.omeally at gmail.com (804)658-6668 From emitchell927 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 13:15:02 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 09:15:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> <000201d2b32c$ed4e99d0$c7ebcd70$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <5843ACBF-870A-47B6-A9D0-9B6F2D19FE7F@gmail.com> Hi I'm Emma Mitchell I am an undergraduate at George Washington university and I would like to network with you. My number is 2023224294 text me or call me anytime if you want to talk. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Christopher O'meally via NABS-L wrote: > > I live in central VA, and know a lot of people who went to those > schools. let me contact them and dig some stuff up for ya > >> On 4/11/17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: >> I took a course in forensic psychology in college once, it was fascinating. >> Good luck on your master's degree, and please keep us posted! >> >> Hjen >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:09 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Keri Svendsen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info >> >> I'll be doing a masters in Forensic psychology. >> >> You went to Mary Mount, so what were your likes and dislikes about the >> school? How was disability services in working with you? While I'd >> consider use of braille exams, I've been so used to doing them >> electronically since the school where I'm doing my undergrad can't >> provide braille. >> >> Did you live on or off campus? How did you find or I suppose find >> transportation there? >> >> I'm really looking for any and all advice and tips. >> >> I plan to be in the area at the end of this summer to visit the three >> schools. I'm hoping to either find someone willing to host me for three >> or four days, or find a cheap hotel. >> >> >>> On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >>> I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will >>> you do in grad school? >>> Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask >>> because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. >>> >>> I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student >>> there. >>> >>> I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do >>> you want to know? >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Keri Svendsen >>> Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak >>> to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the >>> area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any >>> help. >>> >>> Mary Mount University >>> George Washington University >>> American University >>> Fairly Dickenson University >>> Roger Williams University. >>> As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, >>> and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who >>> has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. >>> >>> thank you, >>> >> >> -- >> Keri Svendsen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Very Respectfully, > > Christopher O’Meally. > > NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. > > Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. > > Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. > > Chris.omeally at gmail.com > > (804)658-6668 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40gmail.com From iperrault at hotmail.com Wed Apr 12 13:31:32 2017 From: iperrault at hotmail.com (Ian Perrault) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:31:32 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA Message-ID: Hi, I just installed NVDA. How do I get to the NVDA menu? In the User Guide, it says press the NVDA key and N. On a laptop, what is the NVDA key? I -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 41121 bytes Desc: not available URL: From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 13:39:56 2017 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:39:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96582000-801C-4218-876C-80601A8B09BC@gmail.com> Hi, Did you check the box that said "use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key during initial setup? If so, it will be Capslock. If not, some laptops have an insert key at the end of the f keys, right next to delete. At least, that's where my intert key was. Bigger laptops have a number pad, where the insert key is the zero key. Hope that helps. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > I just installed NVDA. How do I get to the NVDA menu? In the User Guide, it says press the NVDA key and N. On a laptop, what is the NVDA key? > I > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From jldail13 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 13:42:01 2017 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 09:42:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58ee2e9f.83266b0a.4fdd1.d0eb@mx.google.com> Hi, To get to the NVDA menu, use “insert N” You can also have NVDA use “capslock” as an NVDA modifier, which I find much easier. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Jessica Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ian Perrault via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:32 AM To: 'nabs-l at nfbnet.org' Cc: Ian Perrault Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA Hi, I just installed NVDA. How do I get to the NVDA menu? In the User Guide, it says press the NVDA key and N. On a laptop, what is the NVDA key? I From chris.omeally at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 13:49:09 2017 From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'meally) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 09:49:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA In-Reply-To: <58ee2e9f.83266b0a.4fdd1.d0eb@mx.google.com> References: <58ee2e9f.83266b0a.4fdd1.d0eb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: that would be your insert or caps lock key if you have an insert. On 4/12/17, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > To get to the NVDA menu, use “insert N” > You can also have NVDA use “capslock” as an NVDA modifier, which I find much > easier. > Let me know if you have any other questions. > Thanks, > Jessica > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Ian Perrault via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:32 AM > To: 'nabs-l at nfbnet.org' > Cc: Ian Perrault > Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA > > Hi, > I just installed NVDA. How do I get to the NVDA menu? In the User Guide, it > says press the NVDA key and N. On a laptop, what is the NVDA key? > I > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com > -- Very Respectfully, Christopher O’Meally. NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. Chris.omeally at gmail.com (804)658-6668 From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 14:33:24 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (amazing tech) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 10:33:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA In-Reply-To: <96582000-801C-4218-876C-80601A8B09BC@gmail.com> References: <96582000-801C-4218-876C-80601A8B09BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Depends on what you have mapped that key too. This can be the insert or tab key if you set it up that way. Thanks, Aaron Linson BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast Sent from my iPad > On Apr 12, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Aleeha Dudley via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > Did you check the box that said "use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key during initial setup? If so, it will be Capslock. If not, some laptops have an insert key at the end of the f keys, right next to delete. At least, that's where my intert key was. Bigger laptops have a number pad, where the insert key is the zero key. Hope that helps. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I just installed NVDA. How do I get to the NVDA menu? In the User Guide, it says press the NVDA key and N. On a laptop, what is the NVDA key? >> I >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 15:01:47 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:01:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice Message-ID: Hi, I am a junior in high school, and I am looking for a college. If any of who live near or go to any of the colleges, could you tell me if they are good for disabilities? How is the area for travel? I have to choose one and I and I want to gain information. The colleges are: University of Delaware Carnegee Melon University of Pensylvania John Hopkins Georgetown University University of Virginia Duke University Greenborough University American University Thank you so much. From chris.omeally at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 15:11:34 2017 From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'meally) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:11:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I live near UVA, JMU, as well as Washington and I can tell you that UVA is not as good as they could be, but Washington and JMU are both good schools when it comes to accessability. On 4/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > I am a junior in high school, and I am looking for a college. If any > of who live near or go to any of the colleges, could you tell me if > they are good for disabilities? How is the area for travel? I have to > choose one and I and I want to gain information. The colleges are: > University of Delaware > Carnegee Melon > University of Pensylvania > John Hopkins > Georgetown University > University of Virginia > Duke University > Greenborough University > American University > Thank you so much. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com > -- Very Respectfully, Christopher O’Meally. NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. Chris.omeally at gmail.com (804)658-6668 From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 15:16:34 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:16:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice Message-ID: <58ee4503.11e5ca0a.cd7fc.0b5b@mx.google.com> I attended Seminole State College and the University of Central Florida. Both of these colleges provide excellent top-notch services for students with disabilities. When I attended these schools I was able to receive anything I needed in a timely manner. From keribcu at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 15:28:53 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:28:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info In-Reply-To: <5843ACBF-870A-47B6-A9D0-9B6F2D19FE7F@gmail.com> References: <7dafa412-e476-b39e-e42a-6c3eb501eaf2@gmail.com> <782699982F50495D8E0BE00952BFB96F@OwnerPC> <000201d2b32c$ed4e99d0$c7ebcd70$@sbcglobal.net> <5843ACBF-870A-47B6-A9D0-9B6F2D19FE7F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8994ebdc-0343-cfb2-ee3f-903f51f88597@gmail.com> Thank you all who have replied. I'll call those who provided numbers, and would still appreciate any info anyone wishes to share. thank you, On 4/12/2017 9:15 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > Hi > I'm Emma Mitchell I am an undergraduate at George Washington university and I would like to network with you. My number is 2023224294 text me or call me anytime if you want to talk. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Christopher O'meally via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I live in central VA, and know a lot of people who went to those >> schools. let me contact them and dig some stuff up for ya >> >>> On 4/11/17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: >>> I took a course in forensic psychology in college once, it was fascinating. >>> Good luck on your master's degree, and please keep us posted! >>> >>> Hjen >>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:09 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Keri Svendsen >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info >>> >>> I'll be doing a masters in Forensic psychology. >>> >>> You went to Mary Mount, so what were your likes and dislikes about the >>> school? How was disability services in working with you? While I'd >>> consider use of braille exams, I've been so used to doing them >>> electronically since the school where I'm doing my undergrad can't >>> provide braille. >>> >>> Did you live on or off campus? How did you find or I suppose find >>> transportation there? >>> >>> I'm really looking for any and all advice and tips. >>> >>> I plan to be in the area at the end of this summer to visit the three >>> schools. I'm hoping to either find someone willing to host me for three >>> or four days, or find a cheap hotel. >>> >>> >>>> On 4/11/2017 5:06 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >>>> I can help you I think since I live in Northern VA. What studies will >>>> you do in grad school? >>>> Also, what sort of accomodations will you want or desire? I ask >>>> because some schools can provide brailled exams and others may not. >>>> >>>> I can speak to Marymount firsthand since I was an undergrad student >>>> there. >>>> >>>> I'm sure someone on here can speak about the schools and area. What do >>>> you want to know? >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Keri Svendsen via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:26 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Keri Svendsen >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] looking to network and get info >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> I'm at the point that I'm looking for grad schools. I'm looking to speak >>>> to anyone who has attended the following schools, or has lived in the >>>> area who can provide me with useful information. I'll appreciate any >>>> help. >>>> >>>> Mary Mount University >>>> George Washington University >>>> American University >>>> Fairly Dickenson University >>>> Roger Williams University. >>>> As well as John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I have lived in NYC, >>>> and seen JJC before, but I'd also still like to connect with anyone who >>>> has attended, or even who plans to attend any of these schools. >>>> >>>> thank you, >>>> >>> -- >>> Keri Svendsen >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >>> et >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com >>> >> >> -- >> Very Respectfully, >> >> Christopher O’Meally. >> >> NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. >> >> Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. >> >> Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. >> >> Chris.omeally at gmail.com >> >> (804)658-6668 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 19:05:03 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:05:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice In-Reply-To: <58ee4503.11e5ca0a.cd7fc.0b5b@mx.google.com> References: <58ee4503.11e5ca0a.cd7fc.0b5b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Do you know st. Petersburg College has good services Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2017, at 11:16 AM, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > > I attended Seminole State College and the University of Central Florida. Both of these colleges provide excellent top-notch services for students with disabilities. When I attended these schools I was able to receive anything I needed in a timely manner. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 19:05:30 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:05:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA In-Reply-To: <96582000-801C-4218-876C-80601A8B09BC@gmail.com> References: <96582000-801C-4218-876C-80601A8B09BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43B4612C-2108-4B02-A29F-D033D934DF3B@gmail.com> Insert key Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Aleeha Dudley via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > Did you check the box that said "use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key during initial setup? If so, it will be Capslock. If not, some laptops have an insert key at the end of the f keys, right next to delete. At least, that's where my intert key was. Bigger laptops have a number pad, where the insert key is the zero key. Hope that helps. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I just installed NVDA. How do I get to the NVDA menu? In the User Guide, it says press the NVDA key and N. On a laptop, what is the NVDA key? >> I >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 19:24:15 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (amazing tech) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:24:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA In-Reply-To: References: <58ee2e9f.83266b0a.4fdd1.d0eb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Again this depends on what you had the key Matt too. It could be the insert key on a ring for keyboard or it could be the caps lucky your choice. I am not sure what you were going to do if you have it as the answer key with the laptop because sometimes you have to press a couple buttons to get that key to even activate as it is hidden under a function layer. Thanks, Aaron Linson BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast Sent from my iPad > On Apr 12, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Christopher O'meally via NABS-L wrote: > > that would be your insert or caps lock key if you have an insert. > >> On 4/12/17, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> To get to the NVDA menu, use “insert N” >> You can also have NVDA use “capslock” as an NVDA modifier, which I find much >> easier. >> Let me know if you have any other questions. >> Thanks, >> Jessica >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Ian Perrault via NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:32 AM >> To: 'nabs-l at nfbnet.org' >> Cc: Ian Perrault >> Subject: [nabs-l] NVDA >> >> Hi, >> I just installed NVDA. How do I get to the NVDA menu? In the User Guide, it >> says press the NVDA key and N. On a laptop, what is the NVDA key? >> I >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Very Respectfully, > > Christopher O’Meally. > > NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. > > Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. > > Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. > > Chris.omeally at gmail.com > > (804)658-6668 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com From mikgephart at icloud.com Wed Apr 12 20:29:52 2017 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 16:29:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F01000F-2E74-45D0-9A27-2FEA035F4FBA@icloud.com> Alexandra, I am a Junior in HS also, but live in the Raleigh area, which is close to the area where Duke University is located. Please feel free to contact me off list, even though I do not know much about the university, or Durham, where it is located. Mikayla On Apr 12, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > I am a junior in high school, and I am looking for a college. If any > of who live near or go to any of the colleges, could you tell me if > they are good for disabilities? How is the area for travel? I have to > choose one and I and I want to gain information. The colleges are: > University of Delaware > Carnegee Melon > University of Pensylvania > John Hopkins > Georgetown University > University of Virginia > Duke University > Greenborough University > American University > Thank you so much. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikgephart%40icloud.com From keribcu at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 22:32:02 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 18:32:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] DC trip Message-ID: <6818b667-279c-de34-c4b9-e05671391a6d@gmail.com> Greetings all, I just found a great hotel deal, so I booked it. I'll be in the area from May 7 to May 10. If anyone wants to meet up. Let me know. thanks, -- Keri Svendsen From lucysirianni at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 23:44:09 2017 From: lucysirianni at gmail.com (Lucy Sirianni) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 18:44:09 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alexandra, I received my B.A. in English from Johns Hopkins in 2011 and would be happy to answer questions about my experience there. My email is lucysirianni at gmail.com. Best of luck with your decision, and do let me know if I can answer any questions about Johns Hopkins! Lucy On 4/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > I am a junior in high school, and I am looking for a college. If any > of who live near or go to any of the colleges, could you tell me if > they are good for disabilities? How is the area for travel? I have to > choose one and I and I want to gain information. The colleges are: > University of Delaware > Carnegee Melon > University of Pensylvania > John Hopkins > Georgetown University > University of Virginia > Duke University > Greenborough University > American University > Thank you so much. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni%40gmail.com > From keribcu at gmail.com Thu Apr 13 00:03:14 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:03:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alexandra, what are you hoping to study? On 4/12/2017 7:44 PM, Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Alexandra, > > I received my B.A. in English from Johns Hopkins in 2011 and would be > happy to answer questions about my experience there. My email is > lucysirianni at gmail.com. > > Best of luck with your decision, and do let me know if I can answer > any questions about Johns Hopkins! > > Lucy > > On 4/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> I am a junior in high school, and I am looking for a college. If any >> of who live near or go to any of the colleges, could you tell me if >> they are good for disabilities? How is the area for travel? I have to >> choose one and I and I want to gain information. The colleges are: >> University of Delaware >> Carnegee Melon >> University of Pensylvania >> John Hopkins >> Georgetown University >> University of Virginia >> Duke University >> Greenborough University >> American University >> Thank you so much. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From katelynmacmusic at gmail.com Thu Apr 13 01:11:15 2017 From: katelynmacmusic at gmail.com (Katelyn MacIntyre) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 18:11:15 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alexandra, I recently obtained my Masters from Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, PA, so I'd be happy to try and answer any questions you might have. Feel free to write me at katelynmacmusic at gmail.com I found the disability office to be very helpful for the most part. As long as you know what you need and are firm in requesting it, they were very accommodating and provided me with everything I needed and requested. I can get you in touch with the department if this would be helpful to ask questions directly. The Pittsburgh area is great - lots of culture and growing opportunities. There is a decent bus system and paratransit, though the campus also has many resources available. There are also several restaurant/shopping areas in decent walking distance. Additionally, the academic reputation is wonderful, and the university provides many great resources such as a career center, personal development opportunities, lots of clubs and organizations, and people from all over the world. I thoroughly enjoyed my time at CMU, and I couldn't recommend this outstanding university enough! Best wishes with your research, and again, let me know if I can help further. Warmest Regards, ~Katelyn MacIntyre www.katelynmac.com Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi, > I am a junior in high school, and I am looking for a college. If any > of who live near or go to any of the colleges, could you tell me if > they are good for disabilities? How is the area for travel? I have to > choose one and I and I want to gain information. The colleges are: > University of Delaware > Carnegee Melon > University of Pensylvania > John Hopkins > Georgetown University > University of Virginia > Duke University > Greenborough University > American University > Thank you so much. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > katelynmacmusic%40gmail.com > From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Thu Apr 13 12:06:36 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:06:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am hoping to study music, education, or writing. On 4/12/17, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L wrote: > Alexandra, > > > what are you hoping to study? > > > On 4/12/2017 7:44 PM, Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Alexandra, >> >> I received my B.A. in English from Johns Hopkins in 2011 and would be >> happy to answer questions about my experience there. My email is >> lucysirianni at gmail.com. >> >> Best of luck with your decision, and do let me know if I can answer >> any questions about Johns Hopkins! >> >> Lucy >> >> On 4/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I am a junior in high school, and I am looking for a college. If any >>> of who live near or go to any of the colleges, could you tell me if >>> they are good for disabilities? How is the area for travel? I have to >>> choose one and I and I want to gain information. The colleges are: >>> University of Delaware >>> Carnegee Melon >>> University of Pensylvania >>> John Hopkins >>> Georgetown University >>> University of Virginia >>> Duke University >>> Greenborough University >>> American University >>> Thank you so much. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni%40gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From chris.omeally at gmail.com Thu Apr 13 12:25:16 2017 From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'meally) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:25:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] DC trip In-Reply-To: <6818b667-279c-de34-c4b9-e05671391a6d@gmail.com> References: <6818b667-279c-de34-c4b9-e05671391a6d@gmail.com> Message-ID: O man. it would be amazing to see you again. but sadly I am going to be stuck in Richmond during that time and won't be able to hop a train. you will only be 2.5 hours from me though. its an amazing city, have a good time! On 4/12/17, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L wrote: > Greetings all, > > > I just found a great hotel deal, so I booked it. I'll be in the area > from May 7 to May 10. If anyone wants to meet up. Let me know. > > > thanks, > > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com > -- Very Respectfully, Christopher O’Meally. NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. Chris.omeally at gmail.com (804)658-6668 From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Apr 13 14:02:22 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:02:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Choice Message-ID: <58ef8521.9561630a.3f702.1579@mx.google.com> I'm not sure but maybe someone else can answer your question. From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 00:35:17 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 19:35:17 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade Message-ID: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> All, First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to indicate as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news regarding my grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: As some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have had quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would be overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was unrealistic; however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've been pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been the death of me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many things to do in life -I'm not ready to die yet!) Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures class, and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't as bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! Thank you for indulging me! Sincerely, Cory McMahon From keribcu at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 01:00:33 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 21:00:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade In-Reply-To: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> References: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cory, College can be overwhelming at times, but it is times like this that show us how hard we work. Keep faith, and keep it up. :) On 4/13/2017 8:35 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > All, > > > > First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to indicate > as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news regarding my > grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: > > > > Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: As > some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have had > quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would be > overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was unrealistic; > however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've been > pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been the death of > me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many things to do in life > -I'm not ready to die yet!) > > > > Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures class, > and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it > yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick > turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't as > bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! > > > > Thank you for indulging me! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 01:04:52 2017 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 21:04:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade In-Reply-To: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> References: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54B0BE5E-95C4-4DC1-A1AF-1AC9A5BFB338@gmail.com> Hi Cory! How are yu? That's great! You can do it! Never give up! Yes, sometimes things can be difficult,, but in the end comes great! Keep going! I'm also studying at the university. We are proud of you! I look forward inhearing form you soon. Thanks and God bless! Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the Blind IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 > On Apr 13, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > All, > > > > First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to indicate > as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news regarding my > grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: > > > > Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: As > some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have had > quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would be > overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was unrealistic; > however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've been > pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been the death of > me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many things to do in life > -I'm not ready to die yet!) > > > > Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures class, > and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it > yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick > turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't as > bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! > > > > Thank you for indulging me! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 01:09:51 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 20:09:51 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade In-Reply-To: References: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <03bd01d2b4bb$d2313550$76939ff0$@gmail.com> Thank you so much for the encouragement. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:01 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade Cory, College can be overwhelming at times, but it is times like this that show us how hard we work. Keep faith, and keep it up. :) On 4/13/2017 8:35 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > All, > > > > First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to indicate > as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news regarding my > grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: > > > > Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: As > some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have had > quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would be > overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was unrealistic; > however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've been > pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been the death of > me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many things to do in life > -I'm not ready to die yet!) > > > > Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures class, > and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it > yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick > turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't as > bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! > > > > Thank you for indulging me! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 09:32:22 2017 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:32:22 +0100 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade In-Reply-To: <03bd01d2b4bb$d2313550$76939ff0$@gmail.com> References: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> <03bd01d2b4bb$d2313550$76939ff0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Cory, That's great news! There are plenty of ups and downs both in and out of college. Enjoy the up and keep going! Well done! Very best wishes, Sandra. On 4/14/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Thank you so much for the encouragement. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:01 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Keri Svendsen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade > > Cory, > > > College can be overwhelming at times, but it is times like this that show > us > how hard we work. Keep faith, and keep it up. :) > > > On 4/13/2017 8:35 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: >> All, >> >> >> >> First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to > indicate >> as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news regarding >> my >> grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: >> >> >> >> Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: >> As >> some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have had >> quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would be >> overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was > unrealistic; >> however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've been >> pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been the death >> of >> me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many things to do in > life >> -I'm not ready to die yet!) >> >> >> >> Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures > class, >> and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it >> yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick >> turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't as >> bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! >> >> >> >> Thank you for indulging me! >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com > -- Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Fri Apr 14 18:24:48 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:24:48 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder Message-ID: <000c01d2b54c$66aea830$340bf890$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello Everyone, Please join us, this Sunday, on our monthly legislative committee call to discuss what you may have missed on the call with Gabe. We will go over what the plan of action is going to be for Aim High, as well as things you can individually do to ensure this legislative priority moves forward! Call in number: 605-475-6700 Access Code: 789673 Respectfully, Michael From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 18:32:46 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory Mcmahon) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:32:46 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder In-Reply-To: <000c01d2b54c$66aea830$340bf890$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <000c01d2b54c$66aea830$340bf890$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: What time will the call take place? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > Please join us, this Sunday, on our monthly legislative committee > call to discuss what you may have missed on the call with Gabe. We will go > over what the plan of action is going to be for Aim High, as well as things > you can individually do to ensure this legislative priority moves forward! > Call in number: 605-475-6700 > Access Code: 789673 > Respectfully, > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Fri Apr 14 18:35:17 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:35:17 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <000c01d2b54c$66aea830$340bf890$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: <000001d2b54d$ddbbfe40$9933fac0$@nevada.unr.edu> Hi there, The call will take place at 9:00 P.M Eastern time. Respectfully, Michael -----Original Message----- From: Cory Mcmahon [mailto:cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:33 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Michael Ausbun Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder What time will the call take place? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > Please join us, this Sunday, on our monthly legislative committee > call to discuss what you may have missed on the call with Gabe. We > will go over what the plan of action is going to be for Aim High, as > well as things you can individually do to ensure this legislative priority moves forward! > Call in number: 605-475-6700 > Access Code: 789673 > Respectfully, > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40g > mail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 18:39:19 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory Mcmahon) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:39:19 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder In-Reply-To: <000001d2b54d$ddbbfe40$9933fac0$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <000c01d2b54c$66aea830$340bf890$@nevada.unr.edu> <000001d2b54d$ddbbfe40$9933fac0$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: <013BAC65-D1E7-4CB5-BB47-1194B997D91F@gmail.com> Thank you very much; I'm looking forward to attending. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Michael Ausbun wrote: > > Hi there, > The call will take place at 9:00 P.M Eastern time. > Respectfully, > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cory Mcmahon [mailto:cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:33 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Michael Ausbun > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder > > What time will the call take place? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> Please join us, this Sunday, on our monthly legislative committee >> call to discuss what you may have missed on the call with Gabe. We >> will go over what the plan of action is going to be for Aim High, as >> well as things you can individually do to ensure this legislative priority > moves forward! >> Call in number: 605-475-6700 >> Access Code: 789673 >> Respectfully, >> Michael >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40g >> mail.com > From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Fri Apr 14 19:07:20 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (mausbun at nevada.unr.edu) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:07:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder In-Reply-To: <013BAC65-D1E7-4CB5-BB47-1194B997D91F@gmail.com> References: <000c01d2b54c$66aea830$340bf890$@nevada.unr.edu> <000001d2b54d$ddbbfe40$9933fac0$@nevada.unr.edu> <013BAC65-D1E7-4CB5-BB47-1194B997D91F@gmail.com> Message-ID: for clarification, the call in info is as follows. call in: 605-475-6700 access code 7869673 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Cory Mcmahon wrote: > > Thank you very much; I'm looking forward to attending. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Michael Ausbun wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> The call will take place at 9:00 P.M Eastern time. >> Respectfully, >> Michael >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cory Mcmahon [mailto:cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:33 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Michael Ausbun >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Legislative Committee Call Reminder >> >> What time will the call take place? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> Please join us, this Sunday, on our monthly legislative committee >>> call to discuss what you may have missed on the call with Gabe. We >>> will go over what the plan of action is going to be for Aim High, as >>> well as things you can individually do to ensure this legislative priority >> moves forward! >>> Call in number: 605-475-6700 >>> Access Code: 789673 >>> Respectfully, >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40g >>> mail.com >> From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 20:18:13 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 15:18:13 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade In-Reply-To: References: <03a701d2b4b6$fe182b10$fa488130$@gmail.com> <03bd01d2b4bb$d2313550$76939ff0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <054201d2b55c$3eb629b0$bc227d10$@gmail.com> Thank you so very much, Sandra, and everyone else who responded, for the positive words regarding my grade in my minority cultures class. Sometimes, it's difficult to "keep up the faith", as someone suggested I do, but I'm blessed to now have a broughter base of individuals to outreach if I sense that I'm getting into a rut regarding school and specifically, my ability to fight through difficult stretches of it. I was considering dropping college altogether, as I just felt overwelmed this particular session; however, dropping out of college is probably something that everyone's considered during a difficult stretch; or, at least, you've uttered the statement: "I can't do this!"; right? Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Gayer via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sandra Gayer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade Hello Cory, That's great news! There are plenty of ups and downs both in and out of college. Enjoy the up and keep going! Well done! Very best wishes, Sandra. On 4/14/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Thank you so much for the encouragement. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri > Svendsen via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:01 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Keri Svendsen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade > > Cory, > > > College can be overwhelming at times, but it is times like this that > show us how hard we work. Keep faith, and keep it up. :) > > > On 4/13/2017 8:35 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: >> All, >> >> >> >> First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to > indicate >> as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news >> regarding my grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: >> >> >> >> Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: >> As >> some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have >> had quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would >> be overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was > unrealistic; >> however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've >> been pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been >> the death of me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many >> things to do in > life >> -I'm not ready to die yet!) >> >> >> >> Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures > class, >> and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it >> yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick >> turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't >> as bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! >> >> >> >> Thank you for indulging me! >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.c >> om > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40g > mail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gma > il.com > -- Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Fri Apr 14 20:33:07 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 15:33:07 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade In-Reply-To: ypHvcnkJ7Z65YypHxcpjbK References: ypHvcnkJ7Z65YypHxcpjbK Message-ID: <005101d2b55e$53e62270$fbb26750$@mediacombb.net> That is truly awesome. Keep up the good work. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:35 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade All, First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to indicate as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news regarding my grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: As some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have had quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would be overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was unrealistic; however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've been pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been the death of me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many things to do in life -I'm not ready to die yet!) Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures class, and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't as bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! Thank you for indulging me! Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 20:40:24 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 15:40:24 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade In-Reply-To: <005101d2b55e$53e62270$fbb26750$@mediacombb.net> References: ypHvcnkJ7Z65YypHxcpjbK <005101d2b55e$53e62270$fbb26750$@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <056401d2b55f$58157ed0$08407c70$@gmail.com> Thanks-I will! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:33 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Loren Wakefield Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade That is truly awesome. Keep up the good work. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:35 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] Positive news about a grade All, First, if this post is not appropriate for this list, feel free to indicate as such; however, I wish to share with you some positive news regarding my grade in my Minority Cultures and Relations class: Prior to doing so, however, I feel the need to provide some background: As some of you who are long-timers on this list are likely aware, I have had quite a bit of trepidation regarding college. I thought it would be overwhelming for me to the point that a pursuit of college was unrealistic; however, since I begun my pursuit of college in January, 2016, I've been pleasantly surprised. While it's not been easy, it's not been the death of me, which is definitely a good thing (I've got too many things to do in life -I'm not ready to die yet!) Anyway, a few weeks ago, I checked my grade for my Minority Cultures class, and I was failing, with a grade of 57 %; however, when I checked it yesterday, I've improved my grade to an 81 %. I'm amazed at the quick turn-around in my grade. If that doesn't show me that college isn't as bad/overwhelming as I perceived it to be, nothing will! Thank you for indulging me! Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 01:51:37 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:51:37 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing Message-ID: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon From piano.girl0299 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 01:51:17 2017 From: piano.girl0299 at gmail.com (Kelsey Nicolay) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:51:17 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] linkedin Message-ID: <58f17cb4.ba25c80a.8868b.bc33@mx.google.com> Hello, I realize this may not be the appropriate list to post this, but I was hoping someone could help me out. Today my supervisor approached me with a possible new project using Linkedin. I would need to use Linkedin to search for current companies for their new business development. I have a Linkedin profile, but I could never get JAWS to work well with it. I was using Firefox as they recommend and am using the latest version of JAWS, but for some reason JAWS was skipping over the search filters I would need to use to perform the project. My supervisor told me that this is not an immediate project, but the marketing department approached him with this and wanted to know if I would be able to do it. He understood that it may not work, but I told him that I would do some research on this and get back to him. Therefore, does anyone use Linkedin with JAWS and if so, how do you navigate through all the clutter on their website? As far as I can tell, they don't have a mobile site, but I could be wrong. Does Nvda handle Linkedin better than JAWS? If anyone uses Linkedin with either screen reader, please feel free to write me offlist at piano.girl0299 at gmail.com with some suggestions on how to efficiently navigate through Linkedin. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay From gpaikens at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 03:02:38 2017 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:02:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] linkedin In-Reply-To: <58f17cb4.ba25c80a.8868b.bc33@mx.google.com> References: <58f17cb4.ba25c80a.8868b.bc33@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <72A444F8-03F8-4D71-99D0-09AD9B9A8123@gmail.com> Hi there, LinkedIN is tough using any configuration because the interface is so cluttered. My sighted colleagues say the same. Maybe try using Chrome. I had good success recently with Chrome. Also, try the mobile app. It is less cluttered than the desktop site. I have no idea if it has all the features you need and it has been a while since I tested the accessibility, but it worked last time I tried. Hope this helps. > On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, > I realize this may not be the appropriate list to post this, but I was hoping someone could help me out. Today my supervisor approached me with a possible new project using Linkedin. I would need to use Linkedin to search for current companies for their new business development. I have a Linkedin profile, but I could never get JAWS to work well with it. I was using Firefox as they recommend and am using the latest version of JAWS, but for some reason JAWS was skipping over the search filters I would need to use to perform the project. My supervisor told me that this is not an immediate project, but the marketing department approached him with this and wanted to know if I would be able to do it. He understood that it may not work, but I told him that I would do some research on this and get back to him. Therefore, does anyone use Linkedin with JAWS and if so, how do you navigate through all the clutter on their website? As far as I can tell, they don't have a mobile site, but I could be wrong. Does Nvda handle Linkedin better than JAWS? If anyone uses Linkedin with either screen reader, please feel free to write me offlist at piano.girl0299 at gmail.com with some suggestions on how to efficiently navigate through Linkedin. > Thank you, > Kelsey Nicolay > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com From knownoflove at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 03:29:13 2017 From: knownoflove at gmail.com (Miranda) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:29:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <30B5166E-B01F-445B-859D-32820CAF7988@gmail.com> Hi, This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the experiences that others share as well. My interest in the human services field was really heightened during my summer internship in 2015. I have the opportunity to welcome refugees to the United States, and I saw the problems that they experienced as a result of their trauma and resettlement journey. However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the midst of what may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to hearing others' experiences! Best wishes, Miranda Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > All, > > > > What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? > > > > I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the > opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of > lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long > way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and > I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 03:32:30 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:32:30 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <30B5166E-B01F-445B-859D-32820CAF7988@gmail.com> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> <30B5166E-B01F-445B-859D-32820CAF7988@gmail.com> Message-ID: <05fb01d2b598$ea5214f0$bef63ed0$@gmail.com> Great career goal, Miranda. It just goes to show the kind of an impact that participating in an internship can have on a person. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: Miranda [mailto:knownoflove at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:29 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing Hi, This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the experiences that others share as well. My interest in the human services field was really heightened during my summer internship in 2015. I have the opportunity to welcome refugees to the United States, and I saw the problems that they experienced as a result of their trauma and resettlement journey. However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the midst of what may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to hearing others' experiences! Best wishes, Miranda Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > All, > > > > What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? > > > > I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the > opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the > improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. > We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the > broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%40gmai > l.com From knownoflove at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 03:42:10 2017 From: knownoflove at gmail.com (Miranda) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:42:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Internships was Re: "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <05fb01d2b598$ea5214f0$bef63ed0$@gmail.com> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> <30B5166E-B01F-445B-859D-32820CAF7988@gmail.com> <05fb01d2b598$ea5214f0$bef63ed0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I completely agree. I just wish that there were more remote internship opportunities available for students who may be unable to travel outside their community for an internship due to family or other commitments. While I certainly realize that the validity of remote or online work or education is a personal decision, I do think that having skills in working with remote teams is beneficial in the workforce today. For any of you who have been involved in an internship at all, what was your experience? What did you gain from your internship that you will take with you for the remainder of your education and career? How did your internship prepare you for your future career goals? Best wishes, Miranda Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Cory McMahon wrote: > > Great career goal, Miranda. It just goes to show the kind of an impact that > participating in an internship can have on a person. > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miranda [mailto:knownoflove at gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:29 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > of study you are pursuing > > Hi, > This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the experiences > that others share as well. My interest in the human services field was > really heightened during my summer internship in 2015. I have the > opportunity to welcome refugees to the United States, and I saw the problems > that they experienced as a result of their trauma and resettlement journey. > However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the midst of what > may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. > This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to > welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. > Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to hearing > others' experiences! > > Best wishes, Miranda > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? >> >> >> >> I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the >> opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the >> improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. >> We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the >> broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation > of that change. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%40gmai >> l.com > From jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 12:09:49 2017 From: jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com (Jason Polansky) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 08:09:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] linkedin In-Reply-To: <72A444F8-03F8-4D71-99D0-09AD9B9A8123@gmail.com> References: <58f17cb4.ba25c80a.8868b.bc33@mx.google.com> <72A444F8-03F8-4D71-99D0-09AD9B9A8123@gmail.com> Message-ID: The iPhone app is pretty decent and user friendly. You can search for individual people, companies, and groups if this is what you mean by the search filters. Hope this helps. > On Apr 14, 2017, at 11:02 PM, Greg Aikens via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi there, > LinkedIN is tough using any configuration because the interface is so cluttered. My sighted colleagues say the same. Maybe try using Chrome. I had good success recently with Chrome. Also, try the mobile app. It is less cluttered than the desktop site. I have no idea if it has all the features you need and it has been a while since I tested the accessibility, but it worked last time I tried. > > Hope this helps. > > >> On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I realize this may not be the appropriate list to post this, but I was hoping someone could help me out. Today my supervisor approached me with a possible new project using Linkedin. I would need to use Linkedin to search for current companies for their new business development. I have a Linkedin profile, but I could never get JAWS to work well with it. I was using Firefox as they recommend and am using the latest version of JAWS, but for some reason JAWS was skipping over the search filters I would need to use to perform the project. My supervisor told me that this is not an immediate project, but the marketing department approached him with this and wanted to know if I would be able to do it. He understood that it may not work, but I told him that I would do some research on this and get back to him. Therefore, does anyone use Linkedin with JAWS and if so, how do you navigate through all the clutter on their website? As far as I can tell, they don't have a mobile site, but I could be wrong. Does Nvda handle Linkedin better than JAWS? If anyone uses Linkedin with either screen reader, please feel free to write me offlist at piano.girl0299 at gmail.com with some suggestions on how to efficiently navigate through Linkedin. >> Thank you, >> Kelsey Nicolay >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jpolansky.nfb%40gmail.com From ligne14 at verizon.net Sat Apr 15 15:02:42 2017 From: ligne14 at verizon.net (Sami Osborne) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:02:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Message-ID: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 15:11:01 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:11:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Sat Apr 15 16:08:57 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:08:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <01b801d2b602$96cc58d0$c4650a70$@sarahblakelarose.com> Hi, all. Sami, I enjoyed your post very much. I studied French and Spanish during high school and undergrad and enjoyed them very much. At the time I was majoring in education and specializing in education of the visually impaired. This was 20-ish years ago and I considered adding ESL as a second specialiation and took some of the courses. It was much harder at that time to get accessible texts. I also ran into some difficulties in the education department and ended up changing majors when I was one semester away from finishing. I would regret it, except that if I had stayed in that program I would not be where I am today. Life takes some strange turns sometimes. I took some time off to recover from the experiences I had and to decide what was next. I was strongly interested in both counseling and theology. I went to seminary, thinking that I would focus on pastoral care and counseling. When I started doing well in ancient language classes, two things happened. Professors started encouraging me to consider changing my study track so that I could teach, and classmates started asking me for help with their language studies. I realized because of those experiences that I needed to do what I was good at, and here I am. My doctoral degree is a broad ministry degree that allows me to apply both y language study and theology to my reflection and practice. This is a much different place from where I imagined myself during my undergraduate study, but I wouldn't be anywhere else now. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From dandrews at visi.com Sat Apr 15 16:44:20 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:44:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Internships was Re: "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> <30B5166E-B01F-445B-859D-32820CAF7988@gmail.com> <05fb01d2b598$ea5214f0$bef63ed0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am an old guy, and not a student. I know some things have changed ... but I have my doubts about a "remote internship." Yes, you could get some experience, but you would miss other things. It has been over 40 years since I had my first internship, but most of its benefit came from just observing people at work, watching how they did things, learning how they interacted with others etc. Then there was the network I built up, from personal contacts, and other opportunities it offered me. Without the interpersonal contact, the experience wouldn't have been nearly as rich, and I would have learned a very narrow range of stuff. I interned at a radio station and interacted with the on-air staff, production staff, news, sales, engineering and management on a daily basis. I would guess that if some kind of remote thing would even be possible, I would have been limited to one department, couldn't have easily done them all. Dave At 10:42 PM 4/14/2017, you wrote: >Hi, >I completely agree. I just wish that there were more remote >internship opportunities available for students who may be unable to >travel outside their community for an internship due to family or >other commitments. While I certainly realize that the validity of >remote or online work or education is a personal decision, I do >think that having skills in working with remote teams is beneficial >in the workforce today. >For any of you who have been involved in an internship at all, what >was your experience? What did you gain from your internship that you >will take with you for the remainder of your education and career? >How did your internship prepare you for your future career goals? > >Best wishes, Miranda > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 14, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Cory McMahon > wrote: > > > > Great career goal, Miranda. It just goes to show the kind of an impact that > > participating in an internship can have on a person. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Miranda [mailto:knownoflove at gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:29 PM > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Cory McMahon > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > > of study you are pursuing > > > > Hi, > > This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the experiences > > that others share as well. My interest in the human services field was > > really heightened during my summer internship in 2015. I have the > > opportunity to welcome refugees to the United States, and I saw > the problems > > that they experienced as a result of their trauma and resettlement journey. > > However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the > midst of what > > may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. > > This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to > > welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. > > Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to hearing > > others' experiences! > > > > Best wishes, Miranda > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L > > wrote: > >> > >> All, > >> > >> > >> > >> What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the > >> opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the > >> improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. > >> We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the > >> broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation > > of that change. > >> > >> > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> > >> > >> Cory McMahon From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 16:57:27 2017 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:57:27 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sami, I applaud you for your success in this field. I hope things go well for you. Language studies was something I wanted to do when I was younger, but since I grew up I wanted to get into the technology field. I' currently attending World Services for the Blind, doing a new program that just started this year, called voiceover at work, shortened name, vow. We learn things such as Mac, iOS, and customer service techniques. It's a lot of fun because we like to enjoy our learning. I'm currently also getting some tutering in math because I didn't have a lot of education with it in school, sadly. But I feel happy where I am at today. I will compose a separate email for this, but if any of you would like to write me off list, my email address is oliver.doug1 at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:11 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 17:20:57 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:20:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Looking for a female roommate for national convention Message-ID: Hi all, As the subject says I am looking for a female roommate for national convention. If you are interested, please email me off list or call me at 301-326-7615 Sent from my iPhone From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 15 18:58:01 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 14:58:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401d2b61a$35d4d030$a17e7090$@sbcglobal.net> I wanted to be a doctor when I was little and always enjoyed listening to my heart with my favorite stethoscope. I have always been interested in the human body and anatomy. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing All, What attracted you to the field of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities; we're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 15 19:14:08 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:14:08 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> I, too, love languages!!! I speak Spanish. In fourth grade, Spanish was mandatory, but after that, I loved Spanish so much I took all my high school had! I still love speaking to my Hispanic friends in their native language and picturing the smiles on their faces. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 20:11:30 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:11:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <00ff01d2b624$790b5770$6b220650$@gmail.com> I know, right? I'm so into the world and just learning about all different sorts of countries. I'm very into Japan at the moment! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:14 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I, too, love languages!!! I speak Spanish. In fourth grade, Spanish was mandatory, but after that, I loved Spanish so much I took all my high school had! I still love speaking to my Hispanic friends in their native language and picturing the smiles on their faces. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 20:11:48 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:11:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <010101d2b624$83613730$8a23a590$@gmail.com> And no, I'm not a weeaboo (hahahahahaha)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:14 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I, too, love languages!!! I speak Spanish. In fourth grade, Spanish was mandatory, but after that, I loved Spanish so much I took all my high school had! I still love speaking to my Hispanic friends in their native language and picturing the smiles on their faces. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 20:12:29 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:12:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <000401d2b61a$35d4d030$a17e7090$@sbcglobal.net> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> <000401d2b61a$35d4d030$a17e7090$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <010301d2b624$9c2fec70$d48fc550$@gmail.com> Cool! I like the brain a lot and am thinking of studying neurology in college maybe. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:58 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing I wanted to be a doctor when I was little and always enjoyed listening to my heart with my favorite stethoscope. I have always been interested in the human body and anatomy. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing All, What attracted you to the field of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities; we're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 20:26:48 2017 From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:26:48 -1000 Subject: [nabs-l] 50th Anniversary Committee Meeting Message-ID: <8478B5EF-59CA-47BD-B91E-EB3062EB1BF4@gmail.com> Aloha Students, I hope you are all having a joyous Easter Weekend. The 50th Anniversary Committee will again be meeting, this Monday April 17 at 9:15PM Eastern. As Convention draws closer, our Committee continues to work towards creating a celebration worthy of the greatness that is NABS, but we need your help. and it all starts by you joining the call, we have a job for everybody. The call in number is 605-475-6700 Code 7869673 Mahalo, Shannon KS Cantan From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 15 20:54:26 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:54:26 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <010301d2b624$9c2fec70$d48fc550$@gmail.com> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> <000401d2b61a$35d4d030$a17e7090$@sbcglobal.net> <010301d2b624$9c2fec70$d48fc550$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201d2b62a$78eee710$6accb530$@sbcglobal.net> I wonder what alternative techniques are available for studying neurology? Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:12 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing Cool! I like the brain a lot and am thinking of studying neurology in college maybe. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:58 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing I wanted to be a doctor when I was little and always enjoyed listening to my heart with my favorite stethoscope. I have always been interested in the human body and anatomy. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing All, What attracted you to the field of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities; we're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 15 20:57:41 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:57:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <00ff01d2b624$790b5770$6b220650$@gmail.com> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> <00ff01d2b624$790b5770$6b220650$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2b62a$ed3bda10$c7b38e30$@sbcglobal.net> I think French is a beautiful language, especially lyrical (sung) French. Gaelic is also beautiful when sung, as well. I also like Latin but have never taken a course in it. The thing about Gaelic and French is, they look so different than they sound! Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:12 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I know, right? I'm so into the world and just learning about all different sorts of countries. I'm very into Japan at the moment! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:14 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I, too, love languages!!! I speak Spanish. In fourth grade, Spanish was mandatory, but after that, I loved Spanish so much I took all my high school had! I still love speaking to my Hispanic friends in their native language and picturing the smiles on their faces. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 20:59:56 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:59:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <000201d2b62a$78eee710$6accb530$@sbcglobal.net> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> <000401d2b61a$35d4d030$a17e7090$@sbcglobal.net> <010301d2b624$9c2fec70$d48fc550$@gmail.com> <000201d2b62a$78eee710$6accb530$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <010501d2b62b$3cc491d0$b64db570$@gmail.com> I don't know. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:54 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing I wonder what alternative techniques are available for studying neurology? Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:12 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing Cool! I like the brain a lot and am thinking of studying neurology in college maybe. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:58 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing I wanted to be a doctor when I was little and always enjoyed listening to my heart with my favorite stethoscope. I have always been interested in the human body and anatomy. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing All, What attracted you to the field of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities; we're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 21:00:25 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:00:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <000001d2b62a$ed3bda10$c7b38e30$@sbcglobal.net> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> <00ff01d2b624$790b5770$6b220650$@gmail.com> <000001d2b62a$ed3bda10$c7b38e30$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <010701d2b62b$4e049da0$ea0dd8e0$@gmail.com> I know!!!!!!!!! I tried studying Gaelic once and I just couldn't... I just couldn't do it. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:58 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I think French is a beautiful language, especially lyrical (sung) French. Gaelic is also beautiful when sung, as well. I also like Latin but have never taken a course in it. The thing about Gaelic and French is, they look so different than they sound! Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:12 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I know, right? I'm so into the world and just learning about all different sorts of countries. I'm very into Japan at the moment! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:14 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I, too, love languages!!! I speak Spanish. In fourth grade, Spanish was mandatory, but after that, I loved Spanish so much I took all my high school had! I still love speaking to my Hispanic friends in their native language and picturing the smiles on their faces. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 22:43:37 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:43:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <010701d2b62b$4e049da0$ea0dd8e0$@gmail.com> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> <00ff01d2b624$790b5770$6b220650$@gmail.com> <000001d2b62a$ed3bda10$c7b38e30$@sbcglobal.net> <010701d2b62b$4e049da0$ea0dd8e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would love to become a singer, teacher, writer, or maybe a lawyer/judge? On 4/15/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > I know!!!!!!!!! I tried studying Gaelic once and I just couldn't... I just > couldn't do it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:58 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > I think French is a beautiful language, especially lyrical (sung) French. > Gaelic is also beautiful when sung, as well. I also like Latin but have > never taken a course in it. The thing about Gaelic and French is, they look > so different than they sound! > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan > Scheffer > via NABS-L > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:12 PM > > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > > Cc: Jordan Scheffer > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > I know, right? I'm so into the world and just learning about all different > sorts of countries. I'm very into Japan at the moment! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:14 PM > > > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > > Cc: Jen > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > I, too, love languages!!! I speak Spanish. In fourth grade, Spanish was > mandatory, but after that, I loved Spanish so much I took all my high > school > had! I still love speaking to my Hispanic friends in their native language > and picturing the smiles on their faces. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan > Scheffer > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Jordan Scheffer > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi Sami, > > Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme > passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high > school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I > believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher > will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). > > But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that > you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the > best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Sami Osborne > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi Corey and all, > > This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm > also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got > interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this > subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French > (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking > French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, > and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my > dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our > relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go > to France every summer to visit our relatives. > I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further > practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was > little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out > with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk > about > practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, > and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a > kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, > which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I > also > really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the > country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email > address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway > lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to > study > Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish > spelling > Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in > fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so > proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I > continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a > battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study > French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I > wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't > very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me > that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd > be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth > grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to > major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It > was > at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to > pursue > languages o a potential career goal. > I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, > which > was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my > Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the > blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to > the > UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters > to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the > next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating > through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually > conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, > if > interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to > pursue." > Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to > write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language > interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I > did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters > do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. > > Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was > fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher > if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd > like to pursue. > > Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the > opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school > campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's > news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who > don't know any English. > In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always > wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my > future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, > because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've > also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my > teachers for offering me both of these positions. > > During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. > I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole > school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you > guys > have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for > languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in > Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of > regular class. > With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days > when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, > and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely > one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was > very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was > applauding, > she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I > was > also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes > the whole time I spoke. > > When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was > applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys > right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to > Spain > for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger > brother > and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing > the > talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. > Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore > reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. > After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an > internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some > interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a > nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job > out in the "real world," > and I have since added this great experience to my resume. > > I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my > blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the > center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance > Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've > always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in > the > romance languages group. > > I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new > languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for > learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, > Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed > listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they > allow > me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already > full brain! LOL. > > Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I > finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm > really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last > time. > > I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, > but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I > sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you > all enjoyed reading it. > > Thanks and enjoy your weekends, > > Sami ----- Original Message ----- > From: Miranda via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:29:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi, > This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the experiences > that others share as well. My interest in the human services field was > really heightened during my summer internship in 2015. I have the > opportunity to welcome refugees to the United States, and I saw the > problems > that they experienced as a result of their trauma and resettlement journey. > However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the midst of > what > may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. > This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to > welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. > Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to hearing > others' experiences! > > Best wishes, Miranda > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L > wrote: > > All, > > > > What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? > > > > I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the > opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of > lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long > way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and > I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver > izon.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 22:49:49 2017 From: jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com (Jason Polansky) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:49:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Looking for an accessible way to read financial statements Message-ID: Hi all, I am taking an accounting class, and we are doing a project in which we are analyzing and comparing the financial statements of two major corporations. It seemed that Google finance was pretty accessible, but the information was in a table and there were four different values for each item. I'm supposed to compare two consecutive years. essentially was not able to decipher which numbers corresponded with the respective values. I also found some pdf documents of the statement of cash flows, balance sheet, and income statement on the corporation's web site, but I was not able to make much sense of them either. Thus far, I have had my accounting book produced in Braille, and the brailleest did quite a good job in transcribing them in a way that I was able to grasp. I have also used excel to complete homework assignments. However, trying to access actual statements of of a company seems much more challenging. I may just have to resort to using a human reader, but I would appreciate any advice from anyone who has experience with this. Thank you From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 23:03:47 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:03:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <010701d2b62b$4e049da0$ea0dd8e0$@gmail.com> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <00ac01d2b5fa$7e8fa400$7baeec00$@gmail.com> <000001d2b61c$7596ead0$60c4c070$@sbcglobal.net> <00ff01d2b624$790b5770$6b220650$@gmail.com> <000001d2b62a$ed3bda10$c7b38e30$@sbcglobal.net> <010701d2b62b$4e049da0$ea0dd8e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <064001d2b63c$8a952990$9fbf7cb0$@gmail.com> The only foreign language I've studied was Spainish, because it was required. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:00 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I know!!!!!!!!! I tried studying Gaelic once and I just couldn't... I just couldn't do it. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:58 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I think French is a beautiful language, especially lyrical (sung) French. Gaelic is also beautiful when sung, as well. I also like Latin but have never taken a course in it. The thing about Gaelic and French is, they look so different than they sound! Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:12 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I know, right? I'm so into the world and just learning about all different sorts of countries. I'm very into Japan at the moment! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:14 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I, too, love languages!!! I speak Spanish. In fourth grade, Spanish was mandatory, but after that, I loved Spanish so much I took all my high school had! I still love speaking to my Hispanic friends in their native language and picturing the smiles on their faces. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:11 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Sami, Oh my goodness, this was such a wonderful message! I, too, have an extreme passion for languages and learning them. I took one year of French in high school, last year, in fact, but unfortunately my teacher wasn't too good. I believe I'm going to take another year next year, but the original teacher will be back (the teacher last year was a sub). But seriously, I'm so happy that you're doing this as a career and that you've chosen to study such a unique and wonderful topic. I wish you the best of luck, and maybe you can help me with my French sometime (LOL)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 23:07:00 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:07:00 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] 50th Anniversary Committee Meeting In-Reply-To: <8478B5EF-59CA-47BD-B91E-EB3062EB1BF4@gmail.com> References: <8478B5EF-59CA-47BD-B91E-EB3062EB1BF4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <064801d2b63c$fdbadaa0$f9308fe0$@gmail.com> I'll try to be there! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Cantan via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:27 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Shannon Cantan Subject: [nabs-l] 50th Anniversary Committee Meeting Aloha Students, I hope you are all having a joyous Easter Weekend. The 50th Anniversary Committee will again be meeting, this Monday April 17 at 9:15PM Eastern. As Convention draws closer, our Committee continues to work towards creating a celebration worthy of the greatness that is NABS, but we need your help. and it all starts by you joining the call, we have a job for everybody. The call in number is 605-475-6700 Code 7869673 Mahalo, Shannon KS Cantan _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 23:08:00 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:08:00 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <010301d2b624$9c2fec70$d48fc550$@gmail.com> References: <05da01d2b58a$d1cf3e20$756dba60$@gmail.com> <000401d2b61a$35d4d030$a17e7090$@sbcglobal.net> <010301d2b624$9c2fec70$d48fc550$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <064901d2b63d$21519260$63f4b720$@gmail.com> Neurology sounds interesting. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:12 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing Cool! I like the brain a lot and am thinking of studying neurology in college maybe. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:58 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing I wanted to be a doctor when I was little and always enjoyed listening to my heart with my favorite stethoscope. I have always been interested in the human body and anatomy. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field of study you are pursuing All, What attracted you to the field of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities; we're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 23:12:16 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:12:16 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <01b801d2b602$96cc58d0$c4650a70$@sarahblakelarose.com> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <01b801d2b602$96cc58d0$c4650a70$@sarahblakelarose.com> Message-ID: <065901d2b63d$b9d797a0$2d86c6e0$@gmail.com> Sarah, It sounds like you took the path that was more than right for you, then. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:09 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi, all. Sami, I enjoyed your post very much. I studied French and Spanish during high school and undergrad and enjoyed them very much. At the time I was majoring in education and specializing in education of the visually impaired. This was 20-ish years ago and I considered adding ESL as a second specialiation and took some of the courses. It was much harder at that time to get accessible texts. I also ran into some difficulties in the education department and ended up changing majors when I was one semester away from finishing. I would regret it, except that if I had stayed in that program I would not be where I am today. Life takes some strange turns sometimes. I took some time off to recover from the experiences I had and to decide what was next. I was strongly interested in both counseling and theology. I went to seminary, thinking that I would focus on pastoral care and counseling. When I started doing well in ancient language classes, two things happened. Professors started encouraging me to consider changing my study track so that I could teach, and classmates started asking me for help with their language studies. I realized because of those experiences that I needed to do what I was good at, and here I am. My doctoral degree is a broad ministry degree that allows me to apply both y language study and theology to my reflection and practice. This is a much different place from where I imagined myself during my undergraduate study, but I wouldn't be anywhere else now. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 15 23:18:57 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:18:57 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <066801d2b63e$a8a467a0$f9ed36e0$@gmail.com> I truly enjoy reading in-depth posts through which people very eloquently express themselves just as you did! What a moving post, Sami! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:03 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing Hi Corey and all, This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to pursue." Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd like to pursue. Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who don't know any English. In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of regular class. With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I spoke. When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job out in the "real world," and I have since added this great experience to my resume. I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last time. I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. Thanks and enjoy your weekends, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda via NABS-L wrote: All, What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver izon.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 00:33:54 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 20:33:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: <066801d2b63e$a8a467a0$f9ed36e0$@gmail.com> References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <066801d2b63e$a8a467a0$f9ed36e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I enjoy singing pop and country music. I love kids wich is why I want to be a teacher. I also go to a performing arts school. I take AP english and have always enjoyed writing. On 4/15/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > I truly enjoy reading in-depth posts through which people very eloquently > express themselves just as you did! What a moving post, Sami! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami Osborne > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:03 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Sami Osborne > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi Corey and all, > > This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. I'm > also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. How I got > interested in that subject is simple: I've always been interested in this > subject. I started out learning two languages at home - English and French > (I have a French mother and American father). My mom started speaking > French to me before I was even born - when she was still pregnant with me, > and we speak it with each other every time we're in private (away from my > dad, who can speak French but doesn't really like to away from our > relatives)! LOL. In addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go > to France every summer to visit our relatives. > I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further > practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I was > little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would go out > with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we would talk > about > practically everything there was to talk about. He was such a nice, smart, > and funny guy, and definitely one of my greatest role models when I was a > kid. He has unfortunately since passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, > which I was really sad about, but he will forever be in my memories. I > also > really enjoy just seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the > country of France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email > address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris subway > lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the opportunity to > study > Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I entered a Spanish > spelling > Bee that my teacher was organizing for the first time. I won the Bee in > fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve third place in fifth grade. I was so > proud of all those accomplishments. When I started middle school, I > continued pursuing Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a > battle with my parents over whether I should continue with that or study > French (they only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I > wanted to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't > very good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me > that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that I'd > be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. After sixth > grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the blind, due to > major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of my teachers. It > was > at the school for the blind where I really made the final decision to > pursue > languages o a potential career goal. > I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, > which > was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high 90;'s in my > Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the school for the > blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class took a field trip to > the > UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed out the language interpreters > to us and what they do. I became so intrigued, listening to people in the > next room speaking in one language while the interpreters were translating > through headphones to other languages (I believe that meeting was actually > conducted in French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, > if > interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm going to > pursue." > Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class to > write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language > interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher thought I > did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what language interpreters > do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. > > Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since I was > fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language schoolteacher > if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of potential careers I'd > like to pursue. > > Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had the > opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my school > campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as the school's > news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of Hispanic parents who > don't know any English. > In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had always > wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective teacher to my > future students. Both of these jobs have been great experiences for me, > because they not only allowed me to practice my language skills, but I've > also learned a lot from them. I am therefore very thankful for both of my > teachers for offering me both of these positions. > > During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. > I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the whole > school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, as you > guys > have already seen, she has been really supportive of my passion for > languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would always talk in > Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills with her outside of > regular class. > With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless days > when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes bef/af class, > and we would just chat about anything and everything. Those are definitely > one of my most memorable times at my school for the blind. My teacher was > very moved by my speech, to the point where, while the crowd was > applauding, > she gave me a very tight hug and just kept thanking me over and over. I > was > also told that she was sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes > the whole time I spoke. > > When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was > applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you guys > right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family vacation to > Spain > for my high school graduation present. During that trip, my younger > brother > and I were in charge of translating everything for our parents and doing > the > talking, since their knowledge of Spanish is very limited. > Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and therefore > reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. > After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to do an > internship at a local independent living center, in which I did some > interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for seniors at a > nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first experience of doing a job > out in the "real world," > and I have since added this great experience to my resume. > > I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my > blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from the > center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major in Romance > Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to Spanish, which I've > always wanted to do, since they're all (French, Spanish, and Italian) in > the > romance languages group. > > I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning new > languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many COULD's for > learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, > Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from Ireland). I really enjoyed > listening to the COULD's (I don't as often unfortunately) because they > allow > me to gain more knowledge and add more information to my probably already > full brain! LOL. > > Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon as I > finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to it. I'm > really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations than I did last > time. > > I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of study, > but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very complicated! :(I > sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy message, but hope you > all enjoyed reading it. > > Thanks and enjoy your weekends, > > Sami ----- Original Message ----- > From: Miranda via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:29:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field > ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi, > This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the experiences > that others share as well. My interest in the human services field was > really heightened during my summer internship in 2015. I have the > opportunity to welcome refugees to the United States, and I saw the > problems > that they experienced as a result of their trauma and resettlement journey. > However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the midst of > what > may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. > This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to > welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. > Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to hearing > others' experiences! > > Best wishes, Miranda > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L > wrote: > > All, > > > > What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? > > > > I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the > opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the improvement of > lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. We're coming a long > way in the integration of this population into the broader community, and > I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver > izon.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 00:34:52 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:34:52 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <066801d2b63e$a8a467a0$f9ed36e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <079501d2b649$43b2e0f0$cb18a2d0$@gmail.com> I love country music, too. -----Original Message----- From: Alexandra Alfonso [mailto:alliefa1999 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:34 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cory McMahon ; Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I enjoy singing pop and country music. I love kids wich is why I want to be a teacher. I also go to a performing arts school. I take AP english and have always enjoyed writing. On 4/15/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > I truly enjoy reading in-depth posts through which people very > eloquently express themselves just as you did! What a moving post, Sami! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami > Osborne via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:03 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Sami Osborne > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the > field ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi Corey and all, > > This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. > I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. > How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been > interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at > home - English and French (I have a French mother and American > father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born > - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other > every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French > but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In > addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. > I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further > practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I > was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would > go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we > would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He > was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my > greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since > passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, > but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just > seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of > France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email > address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris > subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the > opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I > entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the > first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve > third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those > accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing > Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my > parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they > only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted > to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very > good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me > that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that > I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. > After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the > blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of > my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made > the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. > I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, > which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high > 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the > school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class > took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed > out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so > intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one > language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to > other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in > French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if > interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm > going to pursue." > Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class > to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language > interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher > thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what > language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. > > Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since > I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language > schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of > potential careers I'd like to pursue. > > Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had > the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my > school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as > the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of > Hispanic parents who don't know any English. > In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had > always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective > teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great > experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my > language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am > therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. > > During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. > I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the > whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, > as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my > passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would > always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills > with her outside of regular class. > With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless > days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes > bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. > Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for > the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point > where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug > and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was > sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I > spoke. > > When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was > applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you > guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family > vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that > trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating > everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their > knowledge of Spanish is very limited. > Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and > therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. > After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to > do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did > some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for > seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first > experience of doing a job out in the "real world," > and I have since added this great experience to my resume. > > I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my > blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from > the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major > in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to > Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, > Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. > > I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning > new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many > COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, > Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from > Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often > unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add > more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. > > Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon > as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to > it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations > than I did last time. > > I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of > study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very > complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy > message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. > > Thanks and enjoy your weekends, > > Sami ----- Original Message ----- > From: Miranda via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the > field ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi, > This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the > experiences that others share as well. My interest in the human > services field was really heightened during my summer internship in > 2015. I have the opportunity to welcome refugees to the United > States, and I saw the problems that they experienced as a result of > their trauma and resettlement journey. > However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the midst > of what may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. > This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to > welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. > Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to > hearing others' experiences! > > Best wishes, Miranda > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L > > wrote: > > All, > > > > What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? > > > > I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the > opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the > improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. > We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the > broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver > izon.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40g > mail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmai > l.com > From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 00:42:12 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:42:12 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? Message-ID: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> All, I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please write me off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com if you're attending. Would certainly love to meet up with as many of you as possible. Sincerely, Cory McMahon From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 02:08:14 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:08:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing In-Reply-To: References: <0OOG000KTHU2GC20@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> <066801d2b63e$a8a467a0$f9ed36e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <02a101d2b656$4efcaab0$ecf60010$@gmail.com> Wow, sounds neat! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 8:34 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Alexandra Alfonso; Sami Osborne Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the field ofstudy you are pursuing I enjoy singing pop and country music. I love kids wich is why I want to be a teacher. I also go to a performing arts school. I take AP english and have always enjoyed writing. On 4/15/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > I truly enjoy reading in-depth posts through which people very > eloquently express themselves just as you did! What a moving post, Sami! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sami > Osborne via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:03 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Sami Osborne > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the > field ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi Corey and all, > > This is a great discussion topic and I'll share my experience here. > I'm also currently a freshman in college studying foreign languages. > How I got interested in that subject is simple: I've always been > interested in this subject. I started out learning two languages at > home - English and French (I have a French mother and American > father). My mom started speaking French to me before I was even born > - when she was still pregnant with me, and we speak it with each other > every time we're in private (away from my dad, who can speak French > but doesn't really like to away from our relatives)! LOL. In > addition, we have always (and still do, by the way) go to France every summer to visit our relatives. > I really enjoy these trips, because, for me, it enables me to further > practice and reinforce my French skills, by speaking it 24/7. When I > was little, this was especially the case with my grandfather. I would > go out with him almost every single morning to do shopping, and we > would talk about practically everything there was to talk about. He > was such a nice, smart, and funny guy, and definitely one of my > greatest role models when I was a kid. He has unfortunately since > passed away in 2012 when I was fourteen, which I was really sad about, > but he will forever be in my memories. I also really enjoy just > seeing the wonderful attractions that Paris, and just the country of > France in general, has to offer. (By the way, I chose my email > address, ligne14, because I really like going on one of the Paris > subway lines!):( When I was in the first grade, I also had the > opportunity to study Spanish. When I was in fourth and fifth grade, I > entered a Spanish spelling Bee that my teacher was organizing for the > first time. I won the Bee in fourth grade, and I got, I beealieve > third place in fifth grade. I was so proud of all those > accomplishments. When I started middle school, I continued pursuing > Spanish, although, I'll admit, I did get into kind of a battle with my > parents over whether I should continue with that or study French (they > only offered both languages at the school I was attending). I wanted > to learn French because at the time, I could speak it, but wasn't very > good at writing (I'm still not, by the way). My parents convinced me > that I should just keep taking Spanish, because they just thought that > I'd be bored with the class since I already speak French fluently. > After sixth grade, I'd changed from public school to a school for the > blind, due to major problems I had with my new TVI as well as some of > my teachers. It was at the school for the blind where I really made > the final decision to pursue languages o a potential career goal. > I started that school in the seventh grade, and I had to take Spanish, > which was the only language they offered. I've always gotten high > 90;'s in my Spanish classes every year. A year after I started at the > school for the blind, in the eighth grade, my social studies class > took a field trip to the UN. During that trip, our tour guide pointed > out the language interpreters to us and what they do. I became so > intrigued, listening to people in the next room speaking in one > language while the interpreters were translating through headphones to > other languages (I believe that meeting was actually conducted in > French). After the UN trip, I thought to myself, "You know, if > interpreters can do that, so can I - this will be the job that I'm > going to pursue." > Later on that year, I got an assignment in my Home and Careers class > to write a report about any job that we wanted, and I chose language > interpreting. We also had to present our reports, and my teacher > thought I did a really good job on it, explaining exactly what > language interpreters do and convincing the class about why I wanted to pursue it as a career. > > Coincidentally, that same year, my Spanish teacher told me that since > I was fluent in three languages, I could become a foreign language > schoolteacher if I wanted. I've also added it to my bucket list of > potential careers I'd like to pursue. > > Speaking of jobs, when I was a junior in high school, I actually had > the opportunity to practice both interpreting and teaching within my > school campus. I had a job where I would translate documents such as > the school's news-letter into Spanish, because there were a lot of > Hispanic parents who don't know any English. > In addition, I also taught my technology teacher French, (she had > always wanted to learn it,) and she taught me how to be an effective > teacher to my future students. Both of these jobs have been great > experiences for me, because they not only allowed me to practice my > language skills, but I've also learned a lot from them. I am > therefore very thankful for both of my teachers for offering me both of these positions. > > During my senior year of high school, my Spanish teacher retired. > I was honored to speak during a school assembly, in which I told the > whole school what my Spanish teacher really meant to me. For example, > as you guys have already seen, she has been really supportive of my > passion for languages. Whenever we spoke (which was often) we would > always talk in Spanish. This enabled me to further practice my skills > with her outside of regular class. > With that said, when I was taking Spanish, I can remember countless > days when I would just hang out with my teacher for a few minutes > bef/af class, and we would just chat about anything and everything. > Those are definitely one of my most memorable times at my school for > the blind. My teacher was very moved by my speech, to the point > where, while the crowd was applauding, she gave me a very tight hug > and just kept thanking me over and over. I was also told that she was > sitting right next to me and had tears in her eyes the whole time I > spoke. > > When I had to write my college essay for the different schools I was > applying to, I basically described the same thing that I'm telling you > guys right now. At the end of my senior year, we took a family > vacation to Spain for my high school graduation present. During that > trip, my younger brother and I were in charge of translating > everything for our parents and doing the talking, since their > knowledge of Spanish is very limited. > Again, this allowed me to have many interactions with people, and > therefore reinforcing my skills/knowledge of the language. > After we came back from Europe that August, I had the opportunity to > do an internship at a local independent living center, in which I did > some interpreting over the phone as well as played the piano for > seniors at a nearby nursing home. Doing this, I had my first > experience of doing a job out in the "real world," > and I have since added this great experience to my resume. > > I took a gap year after my senior year of high school to pursue my > blindness training at a center in my native NY. After graduating from > the center, I started college (where I am now) and declared my major > in Romance Languages. I'm now studying Italian in addition to > Spanish, which I've always wanted to do, since they're all (French, > Spanish, and Italian) in the romance languages group. > > I also forgot to mention that I've always been interested in learning > new languages in my spare time. As a result, I've received many > COULD's for learning new ones, including ones for German, Italian, > Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, Japanese, Arabic, and even Gaelic (from > Ireland). I really enjoyed listening to the COULD's (I don't as often > unfortunately) because they allow me to gain more knowledge and add > more information to my probably already full brain! LOL. > > Now, I'm having ow same internship that I did two years ago, as soon > as I finish this semester off in May, and am really looking forward to > it. I'm really hoping I'll be able to have even more translations > than I did last time. > > I know that this is a much more in-depth analysis of my choice of > study, but, as you guys can see, my interest/experience is very > complicated! :(I sincerely apologize to everyone for the very lengthy > message, but hope you all enjoyed reading it. > > Thanks and enjoy your weekends, > > Sami ----- Original Message ----- > From: Miranda via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "Conversation starter"/question related to the > field ofstudy you are pursuing > > Hi, > This is a great conversation, and I look forward to hearing the > experiences that others share as well. My interest in the human > services field was really heightened during my summer internship in > 2015. I have the opportunity to welcome refugees to the United > States, and I saw the problems that they experienced as a result of > their trauma and resettlement journey. > However, I also saw a great deal of resilience and hope in the midst > of what may seem to some as insurmountable obstacles. > This 13-week internship and all that I learned solidified my desire to > welcome internationals to the United States as my long-term career goal. > Thanks for starting this conversation, and again, I look forward to > hearing others' experiences! > > Best wishes, Miranda > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L > > wrote: > > All, > > > > What attracted you to the field of of study you are pursuing? > > > > I'm majoring in Human Services because I, personally, appreciate the > opportunity to help people, particularly in the area of the > improvement of lives of individuals with developmental disabilities. > We're coming a long way in the integration of this population into the > broader community, and I'm truly blessed to be part of the implementation of that change. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ligne14%40ver > izon.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40g > mail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From wmodnl at hotmail.com Sun Apr 16 05:49:03 2017 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 05:49:03 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] linkedin In-Reply-To: References: <58f17cb4.ba25c80a.8868b.bc33@mx.google.com> <72A444F8-03F8-4D71-99D0-09AD9B9A8123@gmail.com>, Message-ID: I had best results using the apps on a iPhone, iPad, etc. I have not tried it with Chrome yet. Have a good evening. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 15, 2017, at 08:11, Jason Polansky via NABS-L wrote: > > The iPhone app is pretty decent and user friendly. You can search for individual people, companies, and groups if this is what you mean by the search filters. Hope this helps. > >> On Apr 14, 2017, at 11:02 PM, Greg Aikens via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> LinkedIN is tough using any configuration because the interface is so cluttered. My sighted colleagues say the same. Maybe try using Chrome. I had good success recently with Chrome. Also, try the mobile app. It is less cluttered than the desktop site. I have no idea if it has all the features you need and it has been a while since I tested the accessibility, but it worked last time I tried. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I realize this may not be the appropriate list to post this, but I was hoping someone could help me out. Today my supervisor approached me with a possible new project using Linkedin. I would need to use Linkedin to search for current companies for their new business development. I have a Linkedin profile, but I could never get JAWS to work well with it. I was using Firefox as they recommend and am using the latest version of JAWS, but for some reason JAWS was skipping over the search filters I would need to use to perform the project. My supervisor told me that this is not an immediate project, but the marketing department approached him with this and wanted to know if I would be able to do it. He understood that it may not work, but I told him that I would do some research on this and get back to him. Therefore, does anyone use Linkedin with JAWS and if so, how do you navigate through all the clutter on their website? As far as I can tell, they don't have a mobile site, but I could be wrong. Does Nvda handle Linkedin better than JAWS? If anyone uses Linkedin with either screen reader, please feel free to write me offlist at piano.girl0299 at gmail.com with some suggestions on how to efficiently navigate through Linkedin. >>> Thank you, >>> Kelsey Nicolay >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jpolansky.nfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 13:51:31 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (That Blind Nerd) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:51:31 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> I'm going! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > All, > > > > I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? > I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please write me > off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com if > you're attending. Would certainly love to meet up with as many of you as > possible. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 14:31:36 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:31:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Please disregard Message-ID: Good morning everyone, Please disregard my email yesterday about a female roommate for national convention already found one thank you. Sent from my iPhone From keribcu at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 14:41:53 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:41:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <06eba21d-46b4-6078-ddd3-a5d3fd17c53c@gmail.com> I hope you all have fun. It's far to expensive, and I have to work on service hours all summer for my scholarship! On 4/16/2017 9:51 AM, That Blind Nerd via NABS-L wrote: > I'm going! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? >> I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please write me >> off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com if >> you're attending. Would certainly love to meet up with as many of you as >> possible. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 19:11:01 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: That Blind Nerd: First, let me say that I love the creativity of your display name. Long live the nerds! To Cory and all who are interested: I will definitely be at convention, and would love to connect with everyone I can. If any of you have any questions about convention, please don't hesitate to reach out. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:51 AM, That Blind Nerd via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm going! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? >> I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please write me >> off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com if >> you're attending. Would certainly love to meet up with as many of you as >> possible. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 19:13:25 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:13:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <034201d2b6e5$85f64140$91e2c3c0$@gmail.com> Thanks, that's actually my YouTube account name, sorry, but yes, I am a nerd! I'll be there, so maybe some of us, including me, can meet up. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:11 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? That Blind Nerd: First, let me say that I love the creativity of your display name. Long live the nerds! To Cory and all who are interested: I will definitely be at convention, and would love to connect with everyone I can. If any of you have any questions about convention, please don't hesitate to reach out. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:51 AM, That Blind Nerd via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm going! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? >> I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please >> write me off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com >> if you're attending. Would >> certainly love to meet up with as many of you as possible. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 01:59:00 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:59:00 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: <034201d2b6e5$85f64140$91e2c3c0$@gmail.com> References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> <034201d2b6e5$85f64140$91e2c3c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002e01d2b71e$2f341510$8d9c3f30$@gmail.com> If you're comfortable, those who're willing should privately exchange contact information so as to facilitate the opportunity to meet up while at convention; just my thoughts. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:13 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? Thanks, that's actually my YouTube account name, sorry, but yes, I am a nerd! I'll be there, so maybe some of us, including me, can meet up. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:11 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? That Blind Nerd: First, let me say that I love the creativity of your display name. Long live the nerds! To Cory and all who are interested: I will definitely be at convention, and would love to connect with everyone I can. If any of you have any questions about convention, please don't hesitate to reach out. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:51 AM, That Blind Nerd via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm going! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? >> I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please >> write me off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com >> if you're attending. Would >> certainly love to meet up with as many of you as possible. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 01:59:47 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:59:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002f01d2b71e$4b20ac20$e1620460$@gmail.com> Thanks, Chris-We'll definitely meet up! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:11 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? That Blind Nerd: First, let me say that I love the creativity of your display name. Long live the nerds! To Cory and all who are interested: I will definitely be at convention, and would love to connect with everyone I can. If any of you have any questions about convention, please don't hesitate to reach out. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:51 AM, That Blind Nerd via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm going! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? >> I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please >> write me off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com >> if you're attending. Would >> certainly love to meet up with as many of you as possible. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 02:05:10 2017 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 21:05:10 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: <002f01d2b71e$4b20ac20$e1620460$@gmail.com> References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> <002f01d2b71e$4b20ac20$e1620460$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jordan Hope you have an enjoyable time at convention. I'm Doug. And hello Kory. If anyone wants to write me off list my email address is oliver.doug1 at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:00 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? Thanks, Chris-We'll definitely meet up! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:11 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? That Blind Nerd: First, let me say that I love the creativity of your display name. Long live the nerds! To Cory and all who are interested: I will definitely be at convention, and would love to connect with everyone I can. If any of you have any questions about convention, please don't hesitate to reach out. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:51 AM, That Blind Nerd via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm going! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? >> I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please >> write me off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com >> if you're attending. Would >> certainly love to meet up with as many of you as possible. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 02:05:08 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 21:05:08 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005301d2b71f$0a7e8a60$1f7b9f20$@gmail.com> Awesome. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of That Blind Nerd via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 8:52 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: That Blind Nerd Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? I'm going! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > All, > > > > I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? > I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please > write me off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com > if you're attending. Would > certainly love to meet up with as many of you as possible. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 12:44:07 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:44:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention? In-Reply-To: References: <000601d2b64a$4a522be0$def683a0$@gmail.com> <2E2899E9-D25E-4FD3-A717-E8249C1687B3@gmail.com> <002f01d2b71e$4b20ac20$e1620460$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003a01d2b778$4dbdab40$e93901c0$@gmail.com> Thanks, I will! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 10:05 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Doug Oliver Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? Hi Jordan Hope you have an enjoyable time at convention. I'm Doug. And hello Kory. If anyone wants to write me off list my email address is oliver.doug1 at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:00 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? Thanks, Chris-We'll definitely meet up! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:11 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National convention? That Blind Nerd: First, let me say that I love the creativity of your display name. Long live the nerds! To Cory and all who are interested: I will definitely be at convention, and would love to connect with everyone I can. If any of you have any questions about convention, please don't hesitate to reach out. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:51 AM, That Blind Nerd via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm going! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in getting a sense as to who's going to national convention? >> I'm going for the first time. So as to not clutter the list, please >> write me off-list at cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com >> if you're attending. Would >> certainly love to meet up with as many of you as possible. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From nelsonsam68 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 17:59:28 2017 From: nelsonsam68 at gmail.com (Sam ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:59:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Message-ID: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> Hi everyone, I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, National runaway safeline. They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with headphones) and the phone at the same time? Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. Any information is helpful. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mausbun at unr.edu Mon Apr 17 18:26:13 2017 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:26:13 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] New York City In-Reply-To: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> Message-ID: Attention: NEW YORK CITY Blind students - PLEASE HELP The National Federation of the Blind has a tremendous opportunity to assist an important New York City organization develop an accessible web presence and we are in need of volunteers. All that is needed is one hour for a phone call, from the comfort of your own home, internet access and a willingness to help. If you are a blind student, blind parent, or the parent of a blind child in New York city, have basic computer skills and can spare an hour to help remove obstacles between blind people and our dreams, please call Ryan Pugh on (410) 659-9314, extension 2409. Or email rpugh at nfb.org Thank you for helping to raise the expectations of blind people. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From cape.amanda at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 19:47:22 2017 From: cape.amanda at gmail.com (Amanda Cape) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:47:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> Message-ID: Hi Sam, I am interested in these types of jobs and volunteer opportunities as well, as I grauated last year with my bachelor's of social work. Have you received any helpful responses thus far? Thanks, Amanda On 4/17/17, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, > National runaway safeline. > > They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. > > I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, > especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with > headphones) and the phone at the same time? > > Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do things > like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being displayed > visually I.E blinking lights ETC. > > Any information is helpful. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cape.amanda%40gmail.com > From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 19:52:26 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:52:26 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> Message-ID: <021001d2b7b4$241c0ca0$6c5425e0$@gmail.com> You can order special headphones which have jaws in one ear, and the customer in the other. As far as I know J 3 Technologies sells them in Summerville SC. I don't know if they still do or not. You want headphones which are split so that you can hear jaws, or your screen reader in one ear, and the customer in the other. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:47 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amanda Cape Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Sam, I am interested in these types of jobs and volunteer opportunities as well, as I grauated last year with my bachelor's of social work. Have you received any helpful responses thus far? Thanks, Amanda On 4/17/17, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, > National runaway safeline. > > They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. > > I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, > especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with > headphones) and the phone at the same time? > > Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do > things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being > displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. > > Any information is helpful. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cape.amanda%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 20:40:13 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:40:13 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> Message-ID: <4FA466B6-D6CE-4131-A778-A0FBC47CB529@gmail.com> Hi Sam, I am interested in possibly doing this kind of thing too, either for a hotline or for an organization at my school called Phonathon, where you solicit money from alumni. Hopefully the reason that they appear reluctant to work with you is more because they just aren't sure what to do since they've never worked with a blind person before, so expect you to come up with a solution. Sometimes they're willing to work with whatever you offer, they just didn't know where to start. Do you absolutely have to use a specific computer with your phone? If you have a notetaker, you could write using that and have your headphones in while you're on the phone then could email to whoever needs the notes. Also I don't know how significant flashing lights are, so if they don't really matter too much you could just say that they're not helpful to you in any way. Vejas > On Apr 17, 2017, at 10:59, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, > National runaway safeline. > > They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. > > I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, > especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with > headphones) and the phone at the same time? > > Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do things > like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being displayed > visually I.E blinking lights ETC. > > Any information is helpful. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 21:27:44 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:27:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> Message-ID: <015201d2b7c1$7448e0b0$5cdaa210$@gmail.com> O lmpw there are headsets that can work with the phone at the same time. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi everyone, I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, National runaway safeline. They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with headphones) and the phone at the same time? Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. Any information is helpful. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 21:29:43 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:29:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <015201d2b7c1$7448e0b0$5cdaa210$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> <015201d2b7c1$7448e0b0$5cdaa210$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <028a01d2b7c1$bac88400$30598c00$@gmail.com> What does O lmpw mean? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:28 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines O lmpw there are headsets that can work with the phone at the same time. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi everyone, I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, National runaway safeline. They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with headphones) and the phone at the same time? Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. Any information is helpful. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 21:33:58 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:33:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <028a01d2b7c1$bac88400$30598c00$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> <015201d2b7c1$7448e0b0$5cdaa210$@gmail.com> <028a01d2b7c1$bac88400$30598c00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <017a01d2b7c2$530cec60$f926c520$@gmail.com> It was a typographical error on my part. There are headsets available that can work with a screen-reader in one ear and the phone in the other. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:30 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines What does O lmpw mean? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:28 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines O lmpw there are headsets that can work with the phone at the same time. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi everyone, I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, National runaway safeline. They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with headphones) and the phone at the same time? Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. Any information is helpful. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From nelsonsam68 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 21:45:31 2017 From: nelsonsam68 at gmail.com (Sam ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:45:31 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <021001d2b7b4$241c0ca0$6c5425e0$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> <021001d2b7b4$241c0ca0$6c5425e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901d2b7c3$f0350d00$d09f2700$@com> Hi Justin, OK yes I've heard of this. So how would that work, how would it plug into both the phone and the computer? So then both my hands would be free to type or hit buttons on the phone? As I understand it so someone calls and you have two websites open. One is called I carol. They're specifically for hotlines and nonprofits. You fill out call reports and things on there. But you don't have to do that while on the phone everyone just takes notes, handwritten I guess, but I could do with braillenote. The other site is called shoretel. Which is for all kinds of business the computer hooks into the phone I guess, so the computer shows/ screen reader would say who's calling. But I'm not sure what all else the screen reader would read on that site/ with the phone because I only had a little time to look at it last year. Will try and explain all this more in a minute. But if anyone has heard of tel shore or I carol I would love to know. Also how to handle the visual aspect of buttons on the phone things lighting up/ blinking ETC. Where I'd have to be on the computer while on the phone would be to look up a resource, and then possibly call that place like a shelter while on the phone with the person. What happened when we tried to have me on the phone and computer is the wires just got tangled up. So I guess want to know how this would plug into the phone and computer at the same time Thanks Sam -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines You can order special headphones which have jaws in one ear, and the customer in the other. As far as I know J 3 Technologies sells them in Summerville SC. I don't know if they still do or not. You want headphones which are split so that you can hear jaws, or your screen reader in one ear, and the customer in the other. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:47 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amanda Cape Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Sam, I am interested in these types of jobs and volunteer opportunities as well, as I grauated last year with my bachelor's of social work. Have you received any helpful responses thus far? Thanks, Amanda On 4/17/17, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, > National runaway safeline. > > They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. > > I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, > especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with > headphones) and the phone at the same time? > > Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do > things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being > displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. > > Any information is helpful. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cape.amanda%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From nelsonsam68 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 22:49:02 2017 From: nelsonsam68 at gmail.com (Sam ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:49:02 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] More on the situation with the hotline I want to volunteer with Message-ID: <003101d2b7cc$cfd8a9a0$6f89fce0$@com> Hi everyone, So it's kind of a long story with me and this hotline but I want to try and explain everything plus give all sites involved. So the hotline is the national runaway safeline. https://www.1800runaway.org/support-youth-in-crisis/volunteer/ I Carol is the site they use to schedule shifts, log calls and other things not related to the phone. http://www.icarol.com/ Here is shore tel the site/software that works with the phones, showing incoming number on screen and other things. (didn't have time to explore phones much) https://www.shoretel.com/ So I contacted them in 2016 to volunteer. As I said in my other message I've done hotlines before and this is a really famous one as it's national. Since moving to Chicago I've always wanted to do it. So I contacted them and maybe I shouldn't have done this but I told her I was blind. I mean she would have found that out anyway. I mean I didn't just say that obviously. I filled out an application and everything. And most people then go to an orientation and then she interviews you but it's at like the last 15 minutes of the orientation and I figured we'd need to have a bit longer to talk about this. So after knowing this she eventually said that I could come in and her and someone from IT wanted to see how I used the computer and phones and everything. Just so you know, they measure all this stuff about runaway youth like gender, race, sexual orientation, age, time on the street ETC. Disability isn't even on the list at all. So I don't think they've ever had a volunteer with any kind of disability. The IT guy was actually really cool. His wife had CP so he knew a bit about screen readers. So this woman is well, very professional, I think wants things a certain way, not necessarily personable, didn't give much away about warming up to me or anything. So I went through the Icarol site. It was totally anxiety provoking with them watching and having to navigate a totally new site for the first time. Ya know people who have no idea you can even use a computer and knowing every minutre they're judging on how you can do this stuff when you've never seen the site before and only had an hour. So we went through the site at the time there were a few inaccessible things like some unlabeled buttons. But generally it was ok. So I really wish I knew all the ins and outs of the requirements and what exactly she's so worried about. That's like the big unknown right now. I'm just guessing off this meeting a year ago. So basically a youth calls in and you do crisis intervention on what's going on, and refer to resources if necessary. People will take notes while on the phone on paper and I could use the braillenote for that which they were fine with. But I believe while on the phone you would have to actually call out to like a shelter to get information on current availability and then have the person still on hold. I'm not sure because they never told me. By the time we got to shore tel which is where the phone and computer are connected it was almost time to leave. But the one thing that we did find out was the whole headphone wires getting tangled in the phone cord. Can't believe there are still landlines out there LOL! So from what I remember the number that calls in does show up on the screen of this shore tel site. I'm not sure what else shows up there or what it's for other than like I said the computer and phone are connected. When looking at the phone what she was worried about was me navigating all the different buttons, as there are rows of them above the regular phone keypad. Not just transfer but like four different open lines, hold, conference call (which you would also do, you actually at times have to do conference calls with the youth and family members) ETC. So they're worried about me not knowing for example whether someone is still on hold ETC as that stuff is shown visually on the display. Like I said the phone stuff was literally the last 15 minutes a year ago so trying to remember. So we got to the end. And said we D follow up. It was I thought clear to all of us that we'd continue to explore the phone situation and brainstorm solutions. A couple weeks later she wrote back saying she and her supervisor had decided I wasn't a good fit for the phones. So no problem solving. But that I could maybe do the online services, so answering chats, e-mails and on a forum. Well the whole point of a hotline is you're talking to someone on the phone. And getting that voice to voice connection. This by the way is the only hotline in Chicago that really I could do. What crisis hotlines there are for like suicide and stuff are through hospitals. There's one rape crisis line but if you do that you have to be an advocate and do rape kits in the hospital which I would not want to do. And I think there's one domestic violence hotline and they don't need volunteers. It says on their site. So this is really the only hotline choice I have. So when she said that I thought well that's nuts if I want to do a text service thing I might as well do a crisis line through text. Which I have done for over a year. They're pretty good. I find texting really impersonal for the kind of things we're working with. I really miss that more in person voice to voice connection. I asked and she agreed I could contact them in a year this was in 2016 So now it's been a year. Before contacting them I looked up I carol. Wrote them. They're really good. They're like accessibility is so important, our new version is way more accessible we've worked with , other blind people on different hotlines ETC. They worked with JAWS but they've never worked with NVDA which I have. So they were like no problem we want to see how this works we'll do a screen sharing session and everything. It was like the best response I've gotten from a tech organization. So I wrote the volunteer coordinator, mentioning I'd be helping work with them and NVDA this week as well as saying that I carol said that if they wanted to be upgraded to an earlier date than the date they're upgrading because they have a visually impaired person they can just ask. Well she wrote back this very distant e-mail focusing on not knowing about NVDA and not knowing when the updgrade would be released and this is the end of the e-mail. we are not in a position to assess potential compatibility with the NVDA software, or the other requirements of volunteers in providing crisis intervention services at the National Runaway Safeline. We thank you for your interest and will follow up with you after we have completed the necessary program revisions and are in a better place to discuss NRS volunteer opportunities. We do not expect to reconnect you any sooner than June 2, 2017. So I don't know what this June 2nd thing is about at all. So I'm like ok now what? Like I said this is like my one hotline. She's technically not discriminating, she had that meeting with me last year and everything. She's just totally dragging her feet with an attitude. I mean the first thing that was done with other organizations when I was in MA was let's sit down and see if you meet all the requirements of a volunteer/ intern minus being blind. Then if you do we talk about accomidations. But with her it's almost backwards like Oh you're blind we need to know if you can do all this stuff because you're blind and then we'll see if you can actually volunteer outside of that. Not in so many words but that seems to be the feeling. Part of me wishes that I could just start over. Like maybe we just got off on the wrong foot with me telling her I was blind. But she's the type of person I think who couldn't have gotten past that anyway even if I just walked in the door. She'd likely still be doing this whole thing with being all obsessed with my blindness and not looking at anything else. I just never had these problems in MA. IL is just crazy closed minded. Sorry for how long this is I hope I explained things better. Sam --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From nelsonsam68 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 22:52:45 2017 From: nelsonsam68 at gmail.com (Sam ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:52:45 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Message-ID: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> Hi again, So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my organization contacted them and they were just terrible. Have people found any way around this? Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure it out? For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's complicated but it worked out. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:00:26 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:00:26 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <002901d2b7c3$f0350d00$d09f2700$@com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> <021001d2b7b4$241c0ca0$6c5425e0$@gmail.com> <002901d2b7c3$f0350d00$d09f2700$@com> Message-ID: <02f101d2b7ce$673af9f0$35b0edd0$@gmail.com> Question 1. Hi Justin, OK yes I've heard of this. So how would that work, how would it plug into both the phone and the computer? So then both my hands would be free to type or hit buttons on the phone? YEs. What you do is you have headphones with a little splitter that comes with them. One cord from the splitter plugs into the computer where you can hear your screenreader, or into the speaker, wherever your sound issues forth, and the other plugs into the part which let's you interact with the customer, in your case, that's going to be the phone part of your system. A lot of these companies use a soft phone, so your second plug will probably go there. The customer won't be able ot hear jaws at all. Question two As I understand it so someone calls and you have two websites open. One is called I carol. They're specifically for hotlines and nonprofits. You fill out call reports and things on there. But you don't have to do that while on the phone everyone just takes notes, handwritten I guess, but I could do with braillenote. When I took notes while talking to the customer, I used notepad, then copied and pasted the notes into the system. The other site is called shoretel. Which is for all kinds of business the computer hooks into the phone I guess, so the computer shows/ screen reader would say who's calling. But I'm not sure what all else the screen reader would read on that site/ with the phone because I only had a little time to look at it last year. Will try and explain all this more in a minute. But if anyone has heard of tel shore or I carol I would love to know. Question e. I'v enever heard of your system, but that side is probably where your other headphone to hear the customer would be. Also how to handle the visual aspect of buttons on the phone things lighting up/ blinking ETC. Question 4 Maybe, for the visual aspect, you can have them wire some sort of sound into it, or see if hooking up a braille display would let you read the messages in braille if you read braille. Find our if there is some sort of message box, or something. The JAWS cursor could read it. If color are flashing on the phone, that's where I'd see if you could have a sound represent each light or something like that. There are plenty of switchboard operators and customer service reps who are blind. The American Foundation for the Blind is a resource for such. Where I'd have to be on the computer while on the phone would be to look up a resource, and then possibly call that place like a shelter while on the phone with the person. What happened when we tried to have me on the phone and computer is the wires just got tangled up. Question 5 About the wires getting tangled up, that didn't happen when I used this equipment, but since I don't know your environment, I don't know how to advise, or what suggestions to make, other than to test the headset when you get it and create a way to make it work. Oh, the system I used was the Avaya phone system. So I guess want to know how this would plug into the phone and computer at the same time Thanks Sam -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:46 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Justin, OK yes I've heard of this. So how would that work, how would it plug into both the phone and the computer? So then both my hands would be free to type or hit buttons on the phone? As I understand it so someone calls and you have two websites open. One is called I carol. They're specifically for hotlines and nonprofits. You fill out call reports and things on there. But you don't have to do that while on the phone everyone just takes notes, handwritten I guess, but I could do with braillenote. The other site is called shoretel. Which is for all kinds of business the computer hooks into the phone I guess, so the computer shows/ screen reader would say who's calling. But I'm not sure what all else the screen reader would read on that site/ with the phone because I only had a little time to look at it last year. Will try and explain all this more in a minute. But if anyone has heard of tel shore or I carol I would love to know. Also how to handle the visual aspect of buttons on the phone things lighting up/ blinking ETC. Where I'd have to be on the computer while on the phone would be to look up a resource, and then possibly call that place like a shelter while on the phone with the person. What happened when we tried to have me on the phone and computer is the wires just got tangled up. So I guess want to know how this would plug into the phone and computer at the same time Thanks Sam -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines You can order special headphones which have jaws in one ear, and the customer in the other. As far as I know J 3 Technologies sells them in Summerville SC. I don't know if they still do or not. You want headphones which are split so that you can hear jaws, or your screen reader in one ear, and the customer in the other. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:47 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amanda Cape Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Sam, I am interested in these types of jobs and volunteer opportunities as well, as I grauated last year with my bachelor's of social work. Have you received any helpful responses thus far? Thanks, Amanda On 4/17/17, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, > National runaway safeline. > > They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. > > I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, > especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with > headphones) and the phone at the same time? > > Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do > things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being > displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. > > Any information is helpful. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cape.amanda%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:01:40 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:01:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <002901d2b7c3$f0350d00$d09f2700$@com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> <021001d2b7b4$241c0ca0$6c5425e0$@gmail.com> <002901d2b7c3$f0350d00$d09f2700$@com> Message-ID: <02f201d2b7ce$93124600$b936d200$@gmail.com> Sam, check out the American foundation for the blind also. There internet address is www.afb.org -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:46 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Justin, OK yes I've heard of this. So how would that work, how would it plug into both the phone and the computer? So then both my hands would be free to type or hit buttons on the phone? As I understand it so someone calls and you have two websites open. One is called I carol. They're specifically for hotlines and nonprofits. You fill out call reports and things on there. But you don't have to do that while on the phone everyone just takes notes, handwritten I guess, but I could do with braillenote. The other site is called shoretel. Which is for all kinds of business the computer hooks into the phone I guess, so the computer shows/ screen reader would say who's calling. But I'm not sure what all else the screen reader would read on that site/ with the phone because I only had a little time to look at it last year. Will try and explain all this more in a minute. But if anyone has heard of tel shore or I carol I would love to know. Also how to handle the visual aspect of buttons on the phone things lighting up/ blinking ETC. Where I'd have to be on the computer while on the phone would be to look up a resource, and then possibly call that place like a shelter while on the phone with the person. What happened when we tried to have me on the phone and computer is the wires just got tangled up. So I guess want to know how this would plug into the phone and computer at the same time Thanks Sam -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines You can order special headphones which have jaws in one ear, and the customer in the other. As far as I know J 3 Technologies sells them in Summerville SC. I don't know if they still do or not. You want headphones which are split so that you can hear jaws, or your screen reader in one ear, and the customer in the other. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:47 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amanda Cape Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Sam, I am interested in these types of jobs and volunteer opportunities as well, as I grauated last year with my bachelor's of social work. Have you received any helpful responses thus far? Thanks, Amanda On 4/17/17, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, > National runaway safeline. > > They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. > > I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, > especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with > headphones) and the phone at the same time? > > Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do > things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being > displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. > > Any information is helpful. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cape.amanda%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:03:14 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:03:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> Message-ID: <02f401d2b7ce$cb245e70$616d1b50$@gmail.com> Didn't seem to work with JAWS either. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 6:53 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Hi again, So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my organization contacted them and they were just terrible. Have people found any way around this? Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure it out? For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's complicated but it worked out. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:03:55 2017 From: angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com (Angela Roberts) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:03:55 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> Message-ID: <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> Dear Sam, This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be suited for a different group. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi again, > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently with > they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could not get > anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. Called them and > they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI individuals, though > they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my organization contacted > them and they were just terrible. > > Have people found any way around this? > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure it > out? > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so that > still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's complicated but it > worked out. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886%40gmail.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:05:54 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:05:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] google sheets Message-ID: <02f501d2b7cf$2ae0bb10$80a23130$@gmail.com> Does anyone no how to set collumns and rows in google sheets? Justin From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:06:53 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:06:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <02fa01d2b7cf$4df2d980$e9d88c80$@gmail.com> I've seen go to meeting used in educational settings, however. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Angela Roberts Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Dear Sam, This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be suited for a different group. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi again, > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > Have people found any way around this? > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > it out? > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > %40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From nelsonsam68 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:09:23 2017 From: nelsonsam68 at gmail.com (Sam ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:09:23 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004101d2b7cf$a75674a0$f6035de0$@com> OK. I'm sorry this is the only blindness list I know about and I know it has students and others who might have used this software for a class or something. Same with the hotline issue needing to talk to people who are also blind and may be in this situation before, and wanted to say exactly what was going on. Sorry if I wrote the wrong list. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 6:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Angela Roberts Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Dear Sam, This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be suited for a different group. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi again, > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > Have people found any way around this? > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > it out? > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > %40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:11:01 2017 From: angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com (Angela Roberts) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:11:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <02fa01d2b7cf$4df2d980$e9d88c80$@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <02fa01d2b7cf$4df2d980$e9d88c80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44DB5DFE-7A14-40C3-9DB2-AA0AED6CA6EF@gmail.com> Correct, but she's not asking for educational reasons. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > I've seen go to meeting used in educational settings, however. > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Angela Roberts > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > > Dear Sam, > This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having > technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be > suited for a different group. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi again, >> >> So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing >> session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. >> >> When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently >> with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could >> not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. >> Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI >> individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my >> organization contacted them and they were just terrible. >> >> Have people found any way around this? >> >> Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure >> it out? >> >> For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so >> that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's >> complicated but it worked out. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 >> %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886%40gmail.com From nelsonsam68 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 23:12:18 2017 From: nelsonsam68 at gmail.com (Sam ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:12:18 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines In-Reply-To: <02f101d2b7ce$673af9f0$35b0edd0$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d2b7a4$5cd295b0$1677c110$@com> <021001d2b7b4$241c0ca0$6c5425e0$@gmail.com> <002901d2b7c3$f0350d00$d09f2700$@com> <02f101d2b7ce$673af9f0$35b0edd0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004801d2b7d0$0ff6aa70$2fe3ff50$@com> Hi Justin, Thanks for all this! This makes a lot of sense with the spliter and I think that could work. I don't know much at all about shore tel but should I get a chance to explore more will know what exactly is read out on the computer end. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 6:00 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Question 1. Hi Justin, OK yes I've heard of this. So how would that work, how would it plug into both the phone and the computer? So then both my hands would be free to type or hit buttons on the phone? YEs. What you do is you have headphones with a little splitter that comes with them. One cord from the splitter plugs into the computer where you can hear your screenreader, or into the speaker, wherever your sound issues forth, and the other plugs into the part which let's you interact with the customer, in your case, that's going to be the phone part of your system. A lot of these companies use a soft phone, so your second plug will probably go there. The customer won't be able ot hear jaws at all. Question two As I understand it so someone calls and you have two websites open. One is called I carol. They're specifically for hotlines and nonprofits. You fill out call reports and things on there. But you don't have to do that while on the phone everyone just takes notes, handwritten I guess, but I could do with braillenote. When I took notes while talking to the customer, I used notepad, then copied and pasted the notes into the system. The other site is called shoretel. Which is for all kinds of business the computer hooks into the phone I guess, so the computer shows/ screen reader would say who's calling. But I'm not sure what all else the screen reader would read on that site/ with the phone because I only had a little time to look at it last year. Will try and explain all this more in a minute. But if anyone has heard of tel shore or I carol I would love to know. Question e. I'v enever heard of your system, but that side is probably where your other headphone to hear the customer would be. Also how to handle the visual aspect of buttons on the phone things lighting up/ blinking ETC. Question 4 Maybe, for the visual aspect, you can have them wire some sort of sound into it, or see if hooking up a braille display would let you read the messages in braille if you read braille. Find our if there is some sort of message box, or something. The JAWS cursor could read it. If color are flashing on the phone, that's where I'd see if you could have a sound represent each light or something like that. There are plenty of switchboard operators and customer service reps who are blind. The American Foundation for the Blind is a resource for such. Where I'd have to be on the computer while on the phone would be to look up a resource, and then possibly call that place like a shelter while on the phone with the person. What happened when we tried to have me on the phone and computer is the wires just got tangled up. Question 5 About the wires getting tangled up, that didn't happen when I used this equipment, but since I don't know your environment, I don't know how to advise, or what suggestions to make, other than to test the headset when you get it and create a way to make it work. Oh, the system I used was the Avaya phone system. So I guess want to know how this would plug into the phone and computer at the same time Thanks Sam -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:46 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Justin, OK yes I've heard of this. So how would that work, how would it plug into both the phone and the computer? So then both my hands would be free to type or hit buttons on the phone? As I understand it so someone calls and you have two websites open. One is called I carol. They're specifically for hotlines and nonprofits. You fill out call reports and things on there. But you don't have to do that while on the phone everyone just takes notes, handwritten I guess, but I could do with braillenote. The other site is called shoretel. Which is for all kinds of business the computer hooks into the phone I guess, so the computer shows/ screen reader would say who's calling. But I'm not sure what all else the screen reader would read on that site/ with the phone because I only had a little time to look at it last year. Will try and explain all this more in a minute. But if anyone has heard of tel shore or I carol I would love to know. Also how to handle the visual aspect of buttons on the phone things lighting up/ blinking ETC. Where I'd have to be on the computer while on the phone would be to look up a resource, and then possibly call that place like a shelter while on the phone with the person. What happened when we tried to have me on the phone and computer is the wires just got tangled up. So I guess want to know how this would plug into the phone and computer at the same time Thanks Sam -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:52 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines You can order special headphones which have jaws in one ear, and the customer in the other. As far as I know J 3 Technologies sells them in Summerville SC. I don't know if they still do or not. You want headphones which are split so that you can hear jaws, or your screen reader in one ear, and the customer in the other. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:47 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amanda Cape Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about working in call centers/ hotlines Hi Sam, I am interested in these types of jobs and volunteer opportunities as well, as I grauated last year with my bachelor's of social work. Have you received any helpful responses thus far? Thanks, Amanda On 4/17/17, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm writing as I'm trying to volunteer for a local crisis hotline, > National runaway safeline. > > They've never had a blind volunteer before and are less than thrilled. > > I'm wondering how you tried to put people at ease in this setting, > especially how you dealt with having to use the computer (so with > headphones) and the phone at the same time? > > Also how you dealt with having to use a phone where you had to do > things like call outside lines, conference, and there was stuff being > displayed visually I.E blinking lights ETC. > > Any information is helpful. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cape.amanda%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:07:18 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:07:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> Is this an educational group????? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Angela Roberts Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Dear Sam, This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be suited for a different group. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi again, > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > Have people found any way around this? > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > it out? > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > %40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:08:04 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:08:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] google sheets In-Reply-To: <02f501d2b7cf$2ae0bb10$80a23130$@gmail.com> References: <02f501d2b7cf$2ae0bb10$80a23130$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <016f01d2b7d7$dab67d10$90237730$@gmail.com> Yes, it's like in Excel, I think they're already there for you, you just have to type in all the data and the columns and rows will set up automatically. I hope this is what you're talking about..... -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:06 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams; 'Blind Talk Mailing List' Subject: [nabs-l] google sheets Does anyone no how to set collumns and rows in google sheets? Justin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:10:27 2017 From: angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com (Angela Roberts) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:10:27 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, this group is to discuss issues that students are having in school or any university. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > > Is this an educational group????? > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Angela Roberts > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > > Dear Sam, > This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having > technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be > suited for a different group. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi again, >> >> So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing >> session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. >> >> When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently >> with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could >> not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. >> Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI >> individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my >> organization contacted them and they were just terrible. >> >> Have people found any way around this? >> >> Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure >> it out? >> >> For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so >> that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's >> complicated but it worked out. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 >> %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886%40gmail.com From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:11:35 2017 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:11:35 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes. They offor many programs for people that want to gain employment once graduated. For example, they offor an Assistive technology instructor training program which allows you to teach other people who are blind and visually impaired assistive technology. Visit http://www.wsblind.org -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:07 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Is this an educational group????? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Angela Roberts Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Dear Sam, This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be suited for a different group. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi again, > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > Have people found any way around this? > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > it out? > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > %40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:13:33 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:13:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01b901d2b7d8$9de623d0$d9b26b70$@gmail.com> Ok. I'm sorry, I actually really never knew about this, I thought that this was somehow a listserve for any issue relating to blindness. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:12 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Doug Oliver Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Yes. They offor many programs for people that want to gain employment once graduated. For example, they offor an Assistive technology instructor training program which allows you to teach other people who are blind and visually impaired assistive technology. Visit http://www.wsblind.org -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:07 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Is this an educational group????? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Angela Roberts Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Dear Sam, This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be suited for a different group. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi again, > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > Have people found any way around this? > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > it out? > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > %40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:30:46 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:30:46 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Message-ID: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Good evening, all: In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for which we receive points. We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that this requirement is unrealistic? Sincerely, Cory McMahon From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:35:56 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:35:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <029c01d2b7db$be8c9210$3ba5b630$@gmail.com> Yes. Your teacher should have just taught you how to do a proper APA citation, then you should have just done it from there. And if you may have done something wrong, your teacher should have just been there to help, not just said, "Ok, just look at your paper then look at this one." -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:31 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Good evening, all: In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for which we receive points. We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that this requirement is unrealistic? Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From tyler at tysdomain.com Tue Apr 18 00:36:06 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:36:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12e51da4-5d8e-393c-796a-b4b0e7268a3a@tysdomain.com> Hello: I'm not trying to be mean here, so please don't take anything I say as that way. When presented with issues like this, you have a couple options. I do not know your circumstances, so it's worth noting that this is coming from a place of not knowing you. Your options in this case are to walk out when you find something that you think is "unrealistic" or to find a way around it. Your walking out doesn't just make you look bad for not discussing this with the professor, but it means that the class which you are presumably paying for, which goes over information you may need later is missed. In this instance, there are other alternative solutions which may have worked and which may work for you later. First you could request the TA help you go over your paper with relation to the other paper and figure out what you're doing wrong and taking notes, or you could ask the professor for notes on what you're doing wrong. I'm sure there are other ideas that people will chime in with as well. I hope this helps. Thanks, On 4/17/2017 8:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Me on the web @Sorressean on Twitter From kmaent1 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 00:43:02 2017 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:43:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Message-ID: <58f5614f.46a0810a.13d42.16b8@mx.google.com> Depends on the situation. That might be a reasonable thing to do if this was a huge lecture class, but if not, it seems to me that a better option would have been to talk to your instructor about why you were leaving. There could have been a way of doing this yourself that meant you didn't lose credit for the activity--like getting a digital copy of the paper you were supposed to compare yours to and using that for the comparison. HTH, Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: Cory McMahon via NABS-L References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <029c01d2b7db$be8c9210$3ba5b630$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39332F87-28FD-48F1-A952-070D349AC67E@gmail.com> I would have talked to the professor after class. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 7:35 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > > Yes. Your teacher should have just taught you how to do a proper APA > citation, then you should have just done it from there. And if you may have > done something wrong, your teacher should have just been there to help, not > just said, "Ok, just look at your paper then look at this one." > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:31 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment > > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/todd.orlowski11%40gmail.com From nmpbrat at aol.com Tue Apr 18 01:09:50 2017 From: nmpbrat at aol.com (nmpbrat at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:09:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15b7e9bc8b1-3d4-25279@webprd-a102.mail.aol.com> Cory, It's hard to answer not being there. With that said, I think if I had been in that position, I would have at least addressed the professor with my concerns prior to leaving. In that discussion, I would have wanted to first look at all possible options for me to complete the activity. There may have been a way in which the professor or a TA could have sat with you and worked with you on it during class or during office hours. Obviously, if it was determined that it would be done during office hours, you would then leave. I think they also maybe could have paired you with another student who possibly did well on it and had minimal mistakes on their paper...thus they could assist you with yours and maybe could even give you some pointers. I guess I would just suggest that maybe in the future, don't automatically assume you can't do it and walk out. Try to think of exhausting all options before doing so, otherwise it simply looks like you are avoiding the task. It is good experience for you. Why you ask? Well, based upon recent experiences I have had in the working world, it isn't any prettier there either. There has been many a staff meeting where I have attended and have not been provided the materials in an accessible format. Unlike college, I can't just walk out though...I'm required to be there regardless. So, I have to exhaust all the possible alternatives to get the information I need and participate in any activities that are expected of me. Yes, I'm holding my employer accountable (not going to go into that) but meanwhile, I must survive...and so past experiences help me to do that. Just some thoughts. Best of luck to you, Nicole -----Original Message----- From: Cory McMahon via NABS-L To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Sent: Mon, Apr 17, 2017 8:31 pm Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Good evening, all: In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for which we receive points. We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that this requirement is unrealistic? Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 01:43:56 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:43:56 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I understand that you were frustrated, but I don't think walking out is reasonable at all, because it can make a statement to the professor that you don't care. Since you presumably have a cane, then it will be made obvious among everyone. In your situation I think I would have asked the professor to pair me up with someone sighted and hope they would be accomodating. If you haven't explained why you walked out already, I think it would be a good idea to write an email to your professor before the next class. Vejas > On Apr 17, 2017, at 17:30, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Tue Apr 18 02:14:57 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:14:57 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <004101d2b7cf$a75674a0$f6035de0$@com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <004101d2b7cf$a75674a0$f6035de0$@com> Message-ID: Stuff happens, all our lists are at http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ Dave At 06:09 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote: >OK. > I'm sorry this is the only blindness list I know about and I know it has >students and others who might have used this software for a class or >something. > Same with the hotline issue needing to talk to people who are also blind >and may be in this situation before, and wanted to say exactly what was >going on. > Sorry if I wrote the wrong list. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts >via NABS-L >Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 6:04 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Angela Roberts >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > >Dear Sam, >This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having >technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be >suited for a different group. > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > > > Have people found any way around this? > > > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > > it out? > > > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > > %40gmail.com > >_______________________________________________ >NABS-L mailing list >NABS-L at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >NABS-L: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail.com > From jtorres3263 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 02:15:13 2017 From: jtorres3263 at gmail.com (Jeanette) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:15:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <015901d2b7e9$9d61c8e0$d8255aa0$@gmail.com> I hesitate to anser this but I will. It looks to the professor and everyone in the class that you gave up. You could have asked the professor for other alternatives. When you don't attempt people may assume that you can't do it in any way shape or form and that's how low expectations grow. Jeanette Torres -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:44 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Hi, I understand that you were frustrated, but I don't think walking out is reasonable at all, because it can make a statement to the professor that you don't care. Since you presumably have a cane, then it will be made obvious among everyone. In your situation I think I would have asked the professor to pair me up with someone sighted and hope they would be accomodating. If you haven't explained why you walked out already, I think it would be a good idea to write an email to your professor before the next class. Vejas > On Apr 17, 2017, at 17:30, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jtorres3263%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Tue Apr 18 02:17:17 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:17:17 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <01b901d2b7d8$9de623d0$d9b26b70$@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> <01b901d2b7d8$9de623d0$d9b26b70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: This list is sponsored by the National Association of Blind Students, a Division of the National Federation of the Blind. You can read the list's purpose at http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org go to the archives etc. Dave At 07:13 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote: >Ok. I'm sorry, I actually really never knew about this, I thought that this >was somehow a listserve for any issue relating to blindness. > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver via >NABS-L >Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:12 PM >To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >Cc: Doug Oliver >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > >Yes. They offor many programs for people that want to gain employment once >graduated. >For example, they offor an Assistive technology instructor training program >which allows you to teach other people who are blind and visually impaired >assistive technology. >Visit http://www.wsblind.org > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer >via NABS-L >Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:07 PM >To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >Cc: Jordan Scheffer >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > >Is this an educational group????? > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts >via NABS-L >Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Angela Roberts >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > >Dear Sam, >This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having >technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be >suited for a different group. > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > > > Have people found any way around this? > > > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > > it out? > > > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > > complicated but it worked out. From rosz1878 at fredonia.edu Tue Apr 18 02:26:09 2017 From: rosz1878 at fredonia.edu (Lisa E Roszyk) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:26:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <01b901d2b7d8$9de623d0$d9b26b70$@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <016d01d2b7d7$bea82d30$3bf88790$@gmail.com> <01b901d2b7d8$9de623d0$d9b26b70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello hello, Not to be that guy, but I have never worked with go to meeting, buy am looking for various video based collaboration methods. Justin, if you feel ok sharing your expiernce with me or if anyone has found a video based platform that was accessible (aside from Skype) I would be grateful to hear as I plan out the technology portions of several student ISPs. Additionally my final M.Ed research submission require video and info graphic editing, if there are editing tools that fellow nabs know of, I would greatly appreciate hearing. Lisa lisros11 at gmail.com Inclusive Specialist On Apr 17, 2017 5:15 PM, "Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L" wrote: > Ok. I'm sorry, I actually really never knew about this, I thought that this > was somehow a listserve for any issue relating to blindness. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver > via > NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:12 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Doug Oliver > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > > Yes. They offor many programs for people that want to gain employment once > graduated. > For example, they offor an Assistive technology instructor training program > which allows you to teach other people who are blind and visually impaired > assistive technology. > Visit http://www.wsblind.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan > Scheffer > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:07 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jordan Scheffer > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > > Is this an educational group????? > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela > Roberts > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Angela Roberts > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > > Dear Sam, > This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having > technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be > suited for a different group. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > > > Have people found any way around this? > > > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > > it out? > > > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > oliver.doug1%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > rosz1878%40fredonia.edu > From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 02:54:17 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:54:17 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <025f01d2b7ef$12f46900$38dd3b00$@gmail.com> Please note that the next class is the final; however, I'm in the process of setting up a meeting with the adjunct instructor and members of the administration, as well as disability services. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:44 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Hi, I understand that you were frustrated, but I don't think walking out is reasonable at all, because it can make a statement to the professor that you don't care. Since you presumably have a cane, then it will be made obvious among everyone. In your situation I think I would have asked the professor to pair me up with someone sighted and hope they would be accomodating. If you haven't explained why you walked out already, I think it would be a good idea to write an email to your professor before the next class. Vejas > On Apr 17, 2017, at 17:30, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" > activities for which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was > in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted > us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA > paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking > that this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination% > 40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From misokwak12 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 02:56:26 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:56:26 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Another Google Sheet Question - Moving between different sheets within one document Message-ID: Hi all, I am aware there is another thread about Google Sheet but I am starting a new thread to not confuse the discussion. I would like to know if there is a way to move between different sheets within one document. i.e., when spreadsheet is in one link but has multiple sheets. Is there any key board shortcut I could use with JAWs or NVDA on Firefox for this? Thank you in advance. --Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 02:41:23 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:41:23 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cory: While I respect the right of any individual blind student to make the choices which best fit his/her needs and preferences, I would not have walked out. Perhaps this requirement was unrealistic in the format and context in which it was given, but there are certainly alternatives which could have made this project accessible to you. For instance, you could ask the teacher/professor to email you a copy of the correctly formatted sample in order for you to compare your paper to it using the same technology with which you completed your paper. Also, you could ask a classmate or a hired human reader to read you the sample while you compared it with your paper. If all else fails, you could either work with your prof individually during his/her office hours or ask that the project's due date be delayed until you can work out an alternative with your DSS office. Though it is true that, in principle, all material provided to sighted students should be born accessible to us, the fact is that this is not the reality of today's classroom. I, along with many of my fellow NABS members, dream of a day when we will be able to access all information with the same ease with which sighted people access it, and we are working hard to turn that dream into reality (see AIMHEA.) Until that day comes, it is our job to think outside the box and propose creative solutions which our less knowledgeable professors may not have thought about, resorting to dropping the class or filing a complaint only when we have exhausted all other resources. I understand that it is sometimes difficult to come up with these creative solutions when we don't know all the tools which exist, and that's why we have resources like this list. But I would encourage you, and all of us, to try to think creatively about solving an accessibility problem before we assume that the class or assignment is impossible for us to complete. Perhaps you will come up with a solution which will help another student who is faced with a similar challenge in the future. Just my thoughts, Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 02:58:53 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:58:53 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <15b7e9bc8b1-3d4-25279@webprd-a102.mail.aol.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <15b7e9bc8b1-3d4-25279@webprd-a102.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <026701d2b7ef$b731b2c0$25951840$@gmail.com> Dear Nicole, Thank you for the helpful suggestions. I intend to meet with the instructor, as mention-so we’ll see what can be worked out. As far as I am aware, the college does not have Teachers assistance; I deeply appreciate the suggestion nonetheless. Sincerely, Cory McMahon From: nmpbrat at aol.com [mailto:nmpbrat at aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:10 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Cory, It's hard to answer not being there. With that said, I think if I had been in that position, I would have at least addressed the professor with my concerns prior to leaving. In that discussion, I would have wanted to first look at all possible options for me to complete the activity. There may have been a way in which the professor or a TA could have sat with you and worked with you on it during class or during office hours. Obviously, if it was determined that it would be done during office hours, you would then leave. I think they also maybe could have paired you with another student who possibly did well on it and had minimal mistakes on their paper...thus they could assist you with yours and maybe could even give you some pointers. I guess I would just suggest that maybe in the future, don't automatically assume you can't do it and walk out. Try to think of exhausting all options before doing so, otherwise it simply looks like you are avoiding the task. It is good experience for you. Why you ask? Well, based upon recent experiences I have had in the working world, it isn't any prettier there either. There has been many a staff meeting where I have attended and have not been provided the materials in an accessible format. Unlike college, I can't just walk out though...I'm required to be there regardless. So, I have to exhaust all the possible alternatives to get the information I need and participate in any activities that are expected of me. Yes, I'm holding my employer accountable (not going to go into that) but meanwhile, I must survive...and so past experiences help me to do that. Just some thoughts. Best of luck to you, Nicole -----Original Message----- From: Cory McMahon via NABS-L > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Cory McMahon > Sent: Mon, Apr 17, 2017 8:31 pm Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Good evening, all: In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for which we receive points. We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that this requirement is unrealistic? Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 03:21:34 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:21:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <028101d2b7f2$e24e8110$a6eb8330$@gmail.com> I appreciate the in-depth response you provided, Chris, and will take that into consideration for future instances in which this occurs. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:41 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Cory: While I respect the right of any individual blind student to make the choices which best fit his/her needs and preferences, I would not have walked out. Perhaps this requirement was unrealistic in the format and context in which it was given, but there are certainly alternatives which could have made this project accessible to you. For instance, you could ask the teacher/professor to email you a copy of the correctly formatted sample in order for you to compare your paper to it using the same technology with which you completed your paper. Also, you could ask a classmate or a hired human reader to read you the sample while you compared it with your paper. If all else fails, you could either work with your prof individually during his/her office hours or ask that the project's due date be delayed until you can work out an alternative with your DSS office. Though it is true that, in principle, all material provided to sighted students should be born accessible to us, the fact is that this is not the reality of today's classroom. I, along with many of my fellow NABS members, dream of a day when we will be able to access all information with the same ease with which sighted people access it, and we are working hard to turn that dream into reality (see AIMHEA.) Until that day comes, it is our job to think outside the box and propose creative solutions which our less knowledgeable professors may not have thought about, resorting to dropping the class or filing a complaint only when we have exhausted all other resources. I understand that it is sometimes difficult to come up with these creative solutions when we don't know all the tools which exist, and that's why we have resources like this list. But I would encourage you, and all of us, to try to think creatively about solving an accessibility problem before we assume that the class or assignment is impossible for us to complete. Perhaps you will come up with a solution which will help another student who is faced with a similar challenge in the future. Just my thoughts, Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" > activities for which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was > in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted > us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA > paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking > that this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 03:24:24 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:24:24 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <12e51da4-5d8e-393c-796a-b4b0e7268a3a@tysdomain.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <12e51da4-5d8e-393c-796a-b4b0e7268a3a@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: <000201d2b7f3$47d80100$d7880300$@gmail.com> Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:36 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Littlefield, Tyler Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Hello: I'm not trying to be mean here, so please don't take anything I say as that way. When presented with issues like this, you have a couple options. I do not know your circumstances, so it's worth noting that this is coming from a place of not knowing you. Your options in this case are to walk out when you find something that you think is "unrealistic" or to find a way around it. Your walking out doesn't just make you look bad for not discussing this with the professor, but it means that the class which you are presumably paying for, which goes over information you may need later is missed. In this instance, there are other alternative solutions which may have worked and which may work for you later. First you could request the TA help you go over your paper with relation to the other paper and figure out what you're doing wrong and taking notes, or you could ask the professor for notes on what you're doing wrong. I'm sure there are other ideas that people will chime in with as well. I hope this helps. Thanks, On 4/17/2017 8:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" > activities for which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was > in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted > us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA > paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking > that this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain. > com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Me on the web @Sorressean on Twitter _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From keribcu at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 12:32:06 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:32:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <425eaf34-f3f4-825d-a08f-2e6b663b04f9@gmail.com> I am a psych major, and have to use APA it can be tough but with assistance to verify questions this would be possible. On 4/17/2017 8:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 12:37:11 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:37:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com> <9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <004101d2b7cf$a75674a0$f6035de0$@com> Message-ID: <003001d2b840$8060f020$8122d060$@gmail.com> Ok, thank you David! Again, I'm sorry to everyone for sounding like an idiot. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:15 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Andrews Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Stuff happens, all our lists are at http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ Dave At 06:09 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote: >OK. > I'm sorry this is the only blindness list I know about and I know it >has students and others who might have used this software for a class >or something. > Same with the hotline issue needing to talk to people who are also >blind and may be in this situation before, and wanted to say exactly >what was going on. > Sorry if I wrote the wrong list. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela >Roberts via NABS-L >Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 6:04 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Angela Roberts >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? > >Dear Sam, >This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having >technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be >suited for a different group. > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm > > currently with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a > > disaster. Could not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with > > blind/VI individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and > > others from my organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > > > Have people found any way around this? > > > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't > > figure it out? > > > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for >NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts108 > > 86 > > %40gmail.com > >_______________________________________________ >NABS-L mailing list >NABS-L at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >NABS-L: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nelsonsam68%40gmail >.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 12:37:34 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:37:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <425eaf34-f3f4-825d-a08f-2e6b663b04f9@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <425eaf34-f3f4-825d-a08f-2e6b663b04f9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003c01d2b840$8f18ca70$ad4a5f50$@gmail.com> Thanks-While my experience last night was difficult for me, it was a positive for me in that it is a lesson learned in case I have a similar situation in the future. I truly appreciate everyone taking the time to chime in here! Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment I am a psych major, and have to use APA it can be tough but with assistance to verify questions this would be possible. On 4/17/2017 8:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 12:56:58 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:56:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <003c01d2b840$8f18ca70$ad4a5f50$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <425eaf34-f3f4-825d-a08f-2e6b663b04f9@gmail.com> <003c01d2b840$8f18ca70$ad4a5f50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201d2b843$43cf1490$cb6d3db0$@gmail.com> Sure, we're all glad to help! TBH my answer was probably terrible..... -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:38 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Thanks-While my experience last night was difficult for me, it was a positive for me in that it is a lesson learned in case I have a similar situation in the future. I truly appreciate everyone taking the time to chime in here! Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment I am a psych major, and have to use APA it can be tough but with assistance to verify questions this would be possible. On 4/17/2017 8:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" > activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was > in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to > look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we > can find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking > that this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.co > m -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Tue Apr 18 13:12:40 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:12:40 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: 0H3kdbX2BPMhH0H3mdGphr References: 0H3kdbX2BPMhH0H3mdGphr Message-ID: <009901d2b845$75721270$60563750$@mediacombb.net> Personally, I would have tried to talk with the professor about his/hrer assignment and tried to come up with an on-the-spot way of handling the situation. Then, if the prof was not willing to work with me, I would have probably walked out. Then I would have been going up the chain of command until I got the issue resolved. I hope you are able to resolve this issue. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:31 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Good evening, all: In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for which we receive points. We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that this requirement is unrealistic? Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 14:52:47 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:52:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Message-ID: <58f6287b.5b0b9d0a.d4c2.0124@mx.google.com> Hi Cory welcome to the list. My name is Roanna Bacchus. You could have asked your professor to email his or her comments about your paper to you ahead of time. Another thing you could have done is to have a friend in class read your paper and tell you what you got wrong on it. From iperrault at hotmail.com Tue Apr 18 15:43:46 2017 From: iperrault at hotmail.com (Ian Perrault) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:43:46 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Efficiently Researching the ADA for Accessible Spaces Message-ID: Hi, I'm working at a bank, and my job is to research the ADA, to make sure that their branches, which are small, and their main offices, which are bigger, meet the ADA standards for physical spaces, which is I think Title 3. Do you know of the most efficient way to get this information? Since the Internet is massive, I could be googling for hours, so do you know of a web site, or maybe a PDF version of the ADA? Just to make this as efficient as possible! Ian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chris On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 03:43:46PM +0000, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > I'm working at a bank, and my job is to research the ADA, to make sure that their branches, which are small, and their main offices, which are bigger, meet the ADA standards for physical spaces, which is I think Title 3. Do you know of the most efficient way to get this information? Since the Internet is massive, I could be googling for hours, so do you know of a web site, or maybe a PDF version of the ADA? Just to make this as efficient as possible! > Ian > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ccn%40chrisnestrud.com From jtorres3263 at gmail.com Tue Apr 18 19:24:39 2017 From: jtorres3263 at gmail.com (Jeanette) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:24:39 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <003201d2b843$43cf1490$cb6d3db0$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <425eaf34-f3f4-825d-a08f-2e6b663b04f9@gmail.com> <003c01d2b840$8f18ca70$ad4a5f50$@gmail.com> <003201d2b843$43cf1490$cb6d3db0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701d2b879$6cce03c0$466a0b40$@gmail.com> You're welcome. Jeanette Torres -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:57 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Sure, we're all glad to help! TBH my answer was probably terrible..... -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:38 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Thanks-While my experience last night was difficult for me, it was a positive for me in that it is a lesson learned in case I have a similar situation in the future. I truly appreciate everyone taking the time to chime in here! Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment I am a psych major, and have to use APA it can be tough but with assistance to verify questions this would be possible. On 4/17/2017 8:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" > activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was > in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to > look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we > can find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking > that this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.co > m -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jtorres3263%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Wed Apr 19 01:17:57 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:17:57 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <58f6287b.5b0b9d0a.d4c2.0124@mx.google.com> References: <58f6287b.5b0b9d0a.d4c2.0124@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <018101d2b8aa$c7e3c570$57ab5050$@gmail.com> Thank you very much; I appreciate your suggestion. As for your first suggestion, we did/do not find out what our "in-class" activities will be prior to the beginning of class; this way, we have an incentive to show up. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:53 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Hi Cory welcome to the list. My name is Roanna Bacchus. You could have asked your professor to email his or her comments about your paper to you ahead of time. Another thing you could have done is to have a friend in class read your paper and tell you what you got wrong on it. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Wed Apr 19 01:19:29 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:19:29 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <003201d2b843$43cf1490$cb6d3db0$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <425eaf34-f3f4-825d-a08f-2e6b663b04f9@gmail.com> <003c01d2b840$8f18ca70$ad4a5f50$@gmail.com> <003201d2b843$43cf1490$cb6d3db0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <019f01d2b8aa$feb9db70$fc2d9250$@gmail.com> No, Jordan-I don't think anyone's answer was "terrible." Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:57 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Sure, we're all glad to help! TBH my answer was probably terrible..... -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:38 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Thanks-While my experience last night was difficult for me, it was a positive for me in that it is a lesson learned in case I have a similar situation in the future. I truly appreciate everyone taking the time to chime in here! Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment I am a psych major, and have to use APA it can be tough but with assistance to verify questions this would be possible. On 4/17/2017 8:30 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" > activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was > in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to > look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we > can find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking > that this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.co > m -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From k8tvv2 at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 12:51:51 2017 From: k8tvv2 at gmail.com (Jeff Crouch) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:51:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Blind orientation mobility specialists Message-ID: <8A0E4C61-F491-478B-AAF4-6F2724038784@gmail.com> Hi everyone, I am thinking about switching my major from psychology to orientation and mobility. I am totally blind and I was wanting to know if any buddy has gone into this field or has known anyone who has done this. I love everything travel, and I love working with people and teaching them cane skills, and everything that would come along with helping a person to become an independent traveler. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Thanks and warmest regards. Jeff Crouch President, Michigan Association of Blind Students From rexschuttler at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 13:05:47 2017 From: rexschuttler at gmail.com (Rex Schuttler) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:05:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Blind orientation mobility specialists In-Reply-To: <8A0E4C61-F491-478B-AAF4-6F2724038784@gmail.com> References: <8A0E4C61-F491-478B-AAF4-6F2724038784@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I am getting my Masters and that exact field. I am doing it because I want to teach independence to other blind people the same way I was taught. If you have any questions about the process and the best schools to go to just feel free to let me know. Rex Schuttler Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma cell phone number 918-955-6761 > On Apr 20, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Crouch via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I am thinking about switching my major from psychology to orientation and mobility. I am totally blind and I was wanting to know if any buddy has gone into this field or has known anyone who has done this. I love everything travel, and I love working with people and teaching them cane skills, and everything that would come along with helping a person to become an independent traveler. > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > > Thanks and warmest regards. > Jeff Crouch > President, Michigan Association of Blind Students > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gmail.com From mikaelastevens at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 13:11:37 2017 From: mikaelastevens at gmail.com (Mikaela Stevens) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:11:37 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Blind orientation mobility specialists In-Reply-To: <8A0E4C61-F491-478B-AAF4-6F2724038784@gmail.com> References: <8A0E4C61-F491-478B-AAF4-6F2724038784@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Jeff: Yes, there are many blind O&M am teachers. Have you gone to training? If not, you should consider going to Louisiana Center for the blind. There you will find many blind role models, including three blind cane travel teachers. If this is your dream, I think you should go for it. Feel free to email me off list and I can talk to you more about training. Best regards, Mikaela > On Apr 20, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Jeff Crouch via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I am thinking about switching my major from psychology to orientation and mobility. I am totally blind and I was wanting to know if any buddy has gone into this field or has known anyone who has done this. I love everything travel, and I love working with people and teaching them cane skills, and everything that would come along with helping a person to become an independent traveler. > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > > Thanks and warmest regards. > Jeff Crouch > President, Michigan Association of Blind Students > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikaelastevens%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 19:12:42 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 12:12:42 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser Help Message-ID: Hi, I go to a relatively small school and while there have been several blind students, I am the first totally blind one. My Disability Services recently decided to purchase an embosser, for me and for any future blind students. They received training in it but the DSS coordinator said that they were not very helpful. Today I tested a math worksheet and have found there to be 2 issues with the embosser. Firstly, there is Braille at the very very left edge of the paper, making it harder to read. Also, any words within the worksheet were all written in grade 1. Does anyone know what can be done to change the embosser's settings? Thanks, Vejas From gpaikens at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 19:26:49 2017 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:26:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can change those settings on the embosser itself but it is generally better to do so using whatever program they used to transcribe it into braille. Are they using Duxbury or is it something like a Tiger that does not use a special program? On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi, > I go to a relatively small school and while there have been several blind > students, I am the first totally blind one. > My Disability Services recently decided to purchase an embosser, for me > and for any future blind students. They received training in it but the > DSS coordinator said that they were not very helpful. > Today I tested a math worksheet and have found there to be 2 issues with > the embosser. Firstly, there is Braille at the very very left edge of the > paper, making it harder to read. Also, any words within the worksheet were > all written in grade 1. Does anyone know what can be done to change the > embosser's settings? > Thanks, > Vejas > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com > From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 19:30:56 2017 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:30:56 +0100 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Vejas, Without knowing the make and model of your embosser, it's hard to give you the exact help you need. However, the left edge problem can be solved by asking the person embossing for you to change the settings to include a one character indent in the lefthand margin. The person could, alternatively, try seeing if there have been margins set. Also, how wide is the paper in relation to the characters per line and lines per page. These are crucial settings to take into account because embossers will economise if there are too many lines or characters specified. For example, if the page can cope with up to 28 lines at the outside and there is an instruction for 28 or even 29, space at the top of the page will disappear altogether. It's the same forcharacters per line. Ask the person to look at the default settings and experiment with reducing the numbers. Again, without knowing which embosser you have andwhich software is being used to operate it, I cannot tell you where to find these settings but I hope some of this will prove useful to you and your school team. Very best wishes, Sandra. On 4/20/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > I go to a relatively small school and while there have been several blind > students, I am the first totally blind one. > My Disability Services recently decided to purchase an embosser, for me and > for any future blind students. They received training in it but the DSS > coordinator said that they were not very helpful. > Today I tested a math worksheet and have found there to be 2 issues with the > embosser. Firstly, there is Braille at the very very left edge of the paper, > making it harder to read. Also, any words within the worksheet were all > written in grade 1. Does anyone know what can be done to change the > embosser's settings? > Thanks, > Vejas > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com > -- Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 21:19:56 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:19:56 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to these who responded to me, both on and off-list. In meeting further today with DSS and taking a closer look at a paper, I have found some more information regarding the embosser. They are using a VP Max embosser with tiger software. They are also using landscape as opposed to portrait, although I've only heard of these terms in regards to the phone so don't know what this means. I am just barely able to read the first letter of a line, so this isn't too much of an issue. As of right now, the main issues are: 1. All words showing up in grade 1, never in grade 2. 2. Some math symbols, such as the degrees symbol, appear as just a mix of letters and numbers. 3. Tables are very small, and it is difficult to read the Braille which is squished onto the page. 4. In regards to the paper that is being used, I had in the past always been given sheets with the holes on the left when reading properly. These sheets have the holes going along the bottom. When I mentioned this to my DSS coordinator she said that that is the only way she can put in paper so that it continuously prints out pages. If anyone has worked with this type of embosser or has any suggesttions, please let me know. Thanks, Vejas > On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:30, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Vejas, > Without knowing the make and model of your embosser, it's hard to give > you the exact help you need. However, the left edge problem can be > solved by asking the person embossing for you to change the settings > to include a one character indent in the lefthand margin. The person > could, alternatively, try seeing if there have been margins set. Also, > how wide is the paper in relation to the characters per line and lines > per page. These are crucial settings to take into account because > embossers will economise if there are too many lines or characters > specified. For example, if the page can cope with up to 28 lines at > the outside and there is an instruction for 28 or even 29, space at > the top of the page will disappear altogether. It's the same > forcharacters per line. Ask the person to look at the default settings > and experiment with reducing the numbers. > > Again, without knowing which embosser you have andwhich software is > being used to operate it, I cannot tell you where to find these > settings but I hope some of this will prove useful to you and your > school team. > Very best wishes, > Sandra. > > >> On 4/20/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> I go to a relatively small school and while there have been several blind >> students, I am the first totally blind one. >> My Disability Services recently decided to purchase an embosser, for me and >> for any future blind students. They received training in it but the DSS >> coordinator said that they were not very helpful. >> Today I tested a math worksheet and have found there to be 2 issues with the >> embosser. Firstly, there is Braille at the very very left edge of the paper, >> making it harder to read. Also, any words within the worksheet were all >> written in grade 1. Does anyone know what can be done to change the >> embosser's settings? >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Soprano Singer > www.sandragayer.com > > Broadcast Presenter > > www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html > > Voiceover Artist > > www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 20 22:31:51 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:31:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d2ba25$e8ff7de0$bafe79a0$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Vejas, "Landscape orientation" is a term for the position of print when something prints. There is also another position, "portrait orientation." The embosser problems you mention can be fixed if the school adjusts the Tiger software and embosser accordingly. When I had Duxbury, there were menus to configure the way braille was embossed, and then you hit a button on the embosser to okay your changes. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 5:20 PM To: sandragayer7 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Embosser Help Thanks to those who responded to me, both on and off-list. In meeting further with DSS and taking a closer look at a paper today, I have found some more information regarding the embosser. They are using a VP Max embosser with tiger software. They are also using landscape as opposed to portrait, although I've only heard of these terms in regards to the phone so don't know what this means. I am just barely able to read the first letter of a line, so this isn't too much of an issue. As of right now, the main issues are: 1. All words showing up in grade 1, never in grade 2. 2. Some math symbols, such as the degrees symbol, appear as just a mix of letters and numbers. 3. Tables are very small, and it is difficult to read the Braille, which is squished onto the page. 4. In regards to the paper that is being used, in the past, I had always been given sheets with the holes on the left when reading properly; these sheets have the holes going along the bottom. When I mentioned this to my DSS coordinator, she said that is the only way she can put in paper so that it continuously prints out pages. If anyone has worked with this type of embosser or has any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks, Vejas > On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:30, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Vejas, > Without knowing the make and model of your embosser, it's hard to give > you the exact help you need. However, the left edge problem can be > solved by asking the person embossing for you to change the settings > to include a one character indent in the lefthand margin. The person > could, alternatively, try seeing if there have been margins set. Also, > how wide is the paper in relation to the characters per line and lines > per page. These are crucial settings to take into account because > embossers will economise if there are too many lines or characters > specified. For example, if the page can cope with up to 28 lines at > the outside and there is an instruction for 28 or even 29, space at > the top of the page will disappear altogether. It's the same > forcharacters per line. Ask the person to look at the default settings > and experiment with reducing the numbers. > > Again, without knowing which embosser you have andwhich software is > being used to operate it, I cannot tell you where to find these > settings but I hope some of this will prove useful to you and your > school team. > Very best wishes, > Sandra. > > >> On 4/20/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> I go to a relatively small school and while there have been several blind >> students, I am the first totally blind one. >> My Disability Services recently decided to purchase an embosser, for me and >> for any future blind students. They received training in it but the DSS >> coordinator said that they were not very helpful. >> Today I tested a math worksheet and have found there to be 2 issues with the >> embosser. Firstly, there is Braille at the very very left edge of the paper, >> making it harder to read. Also, any words within the worksheet were all >> written in grade 1. Does anyone know what can be done to change the >> embosser's settings? >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Soprano Singer > www.sandragayer.com > > Broadcast Presenter > > www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html > > Voiceover Artist > > www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From gpaikens at gmail.com Thu Apr 20 23:39:44 2017 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:39:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Short answer is that buying an embosser is not the same as being able to offer quality braille materials. Even if they invested in something like Duxbury, they would need to have someone trained on how to produce readable braille documents. With the Tiger, you have to choose contracted braille in the settings. It used to run through a plug in with Word but I think they have since released a separate software product. I could be wrong about that. You would need to research whether or not the Tiger software supports Nemeth code. I don’t remember it doing so a few years back. That must be a different setup than I have seen if the only way they can load continuous feed paper is landscape. Portrait layout is when the sheet of paper is taller than it is wide. Landscape is the opposite. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Thanks to these who responded to me, both on and off-list. In meeting further today with DSS and taking a closer look at a paper, I have found some more information regarding the embosser. They are using a VP Max embosser with tiger software. They are also using landscape as opposed to portrait, although I've only heard of these terms in regards to the phone so don't know what this means. > I am just barely able to read the first letter of a line, so this isn't too much of an issue. As of right now, the main issues are: > 1. All words showing up in grade 1, never in grade 2. > 2. Some math symbols, such as the degrees symbol, appear as just a mix of letters and numbers. > 3. Tables are very small, and it is difficult to read the Braille which is squished onto the page. > 4. In regards to the paper that is being used, I had in the past always been given sheets with the holes on the left when reading properly. These sheets have the holes going along the bottom. When I mentioned this to my DSS coordinator she said that that is the only way she can put in paper so that it continuously prints out pages. > If anyone has worked with this type of embosser or has any suggesttions, please let me know. > Thanks, > Vejas > >> On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:30, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello Vejas, >> Without knowing the make and model of your embosser, it's hard to give >> you the exact help you need. However, the left edge problem can be >> solved by asking the person embossing for you to change the settings >> to include a one character indent in the lefthand margin. The person >> could, alternatively, try seeing if there have been margins set. Also, >> how wide is the paper in relation to the characters per line and lines >> per page. These are crucial settings to take into account because >> embossers will economise if there are too many lines or characters >> specified. For example, if the page can cope with up to 28 lines at >> the outside and there is an instruction for 28 or even 29, space at >> the top of the page will disappear altogether. It's the same >> forcharacters per line. Ask the person to look at the default settings >> and experiment with reducing the numbers. >> >> Again, without knowing which embosser you have andwhich software is >> being used to operate it, I cannot tell you where to find these >> settings but I hope some of this will prove useful to you and your >> school team. >> Very best wishes, >> Sandra. >> >> >>> On 4/20/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I go to a relatively small school and while there have been several blind >>> students, I am the first totally blind one. >>> My Disability Services recently decided to purchase an embosser, for me and >>> for any future blind students. They received training in it but the DSS >>> coordinator said that they were not very helpful. >>> Today I tested a math worksheet and have found there to be 2 issues with the >>> embosser. Firstly, there is Braille at the very very left edge of the paper, >>> making it harder to read. Also, any words within the worksheet were all >>> written in grade 1. Does anyone know what can be done to change the >>> embosser's settings? >>> Thanks, >>> Vejas >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Soprano Singer >> www.sandragayer.com >> >> Broadcast Presenter >> >> www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html >> >> Voiceover Artist >> >> www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com From garywunder at me.com Fri Apr 21 12:36:35 2017 From: garywunder at me.com (Gary Wunder) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:36:35 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010b01d2ba9b$eacfa660$c06ef320$@me.com> Did you first try to negotiate? Did you offer up an accommodation? Will you pursue this further with administration? If talking is more helpful than writing, please ring me. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:31 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment Good evening, all: In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for which we receive points. We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can find out what we got wrong on our paper. I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that this requirement is unrealistic? Sincerely, Cory McMahon _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 14:00:20 2017 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:00:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment In-Reply-To: <010b01d2ba9b$eacfa660$c06ef320$@me.com> References: <023d01d2b7db$06704eb0$1350ec10$@gmail.com> <010b01d2ba9b$eacfa660$c06ef320$@me.com> Message-ID: <0E49CD90-3C65-4E3B-A1D0-66048E9A2581@gmail.com> Hello Corey, I believe this assignment is completely reasonable, as long as the instructor is able to provide you with an electronic copy of the paper for reference. In any case, I would not have left the classroom, as that may look disrespectful. If this happens again, you could ask the instructor to email you a copy, or to place a copy on a flash drive. If the instructor is unwilling, that's when I would get upset. HTH, Aleeha Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Gary Wunder via NABS-L wrote: > > Did you first try to negotiate? Did you offer up an accommodation? Will you > pursue this further with administration? If talking is more helpful than > writing, please ring me. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:31 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: [nabs-l] "In-class" assignment > > Good evening, all: > > > > In my "Intro to Applied Psychology" class, we have "in-class" activities for > which we receive points. > > > > We recently turned in a research paper for the course; this paper was in APA > format. As our "in-class" activity tonight, the teacher wanted us to look at > our paper side-by-side with a correct example of an APA paper, so we can > find out what we got wrong on our paper. > > > > I believe this requirement is unrealistic; as such, I walked out. > > > > What would you have done in this situation? Am I correct in thinking that > this requirement is unrealistic? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Cory McMahon > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 15:32:22 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:32:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? Message-ID: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> is there anyway to travel in power chair if you have your travel cane to guide you? can you still use a power chair without sight? From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 15:44:19 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:44:19 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? In-Reply-To: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> References: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <03B622F2-2C22-4791-B1C3-4B172C1BE31A@gmail.com> Great question! Since I've never personally used a chair (power or otherwise), I don't have any experience with this. However, Treva Olivero, a teacher of blind students here in Ruston and a former employee of the national center, has used both a manual and power wheelchair with a cane for many years. I know she'd love to answer your questions. I'll send you her contact info off-list. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > is there anyway to travel in power chair if you have your travel cane to guide you? can you still use a power chair without sight? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 16:46:43 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:46:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? In-Reply-To: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> References: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201d2babe$db973c80$92c5b580$@gmail.com> Probably. I don't use a wheelchair since I can walk fine, but I do have a friend who uses a wheelchair. She has some sight, and although she doesn't have a cane, she can travel fine. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Emma Mitchell via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Emma Mitchell Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? is there anyway to travel in power chair if you have your travel cane to guide you? can you still use a power chair without sight? _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ahc43 at drexel.edu Fri Apr 21 17:22:01 2017 From: ahc43 at drexel.edu (Alex Cohen) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:22:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Research - Marketplace Experiences of Students Message-ID: <000501d2bac3$ca6f5a50$5f4e0ef0$@drexel.edu> Good Afternoon, I am doing a small research study as part of my dissertation examining the marketplace experiences of students. Participants will be asked to briefly describe a recent bad shopping experience and answer a few questions about it. The whole thing should take less than five minutes. A donation will be made to Stop The Hate for each fully completed survey. Thank you very much, and please feel free to reach out to me with any questions. Here's the linke: https://drexel.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_2rAOsP4P1DCtZK5 Thanks, Alex Alex H. Cohen Ph.D. Candidate Marketing Department LeBow College of Business Drexel University 3220 Market St. Philadelphia, PA 19104 Cell: 215.292.1455< tel:215.292.1455> From arielle71 at gmail.com Sat Apr 22 00:07:09 2017 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:07:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Grand Canyon University Message-ID: Hi all, If any of you have attended, or are attending, Grand Canyon University in Arizona and have run into accessibility problems with their learning management system, please contact me at arielle71 at gmail.com Asking for a friend. Thanks! Arielle From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Sat Apr 22 00:33:01 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:33:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Grand Canyon University In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001c01d2bb00$00412870$00c37950$@sarahblakelarose.com> What LMS are they using? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 8:07 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Arielle Silverman Subject: [nabs-l] Grand Canyon University Hi all, If any of you have attended, or are attending, Grand Canyon University in Arizona and have run into accessibility problems with their learning management system, please contact me at arielle71 at gmail.com Asking for a friend. Thanks! Arielle _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu Sat Apr 22 01:55:14 2017 From: Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte (Student)) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 01:55:14 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Blog For April Message-ID: <1952A166-F8BD-4FEE-948E-F8A30493F8DB@asu.edu> Greetings NABS, Here is another NABS Blog brought to you this month by Maureen Nietfeld. Maureen is a full time Home Management teacher at The Colorado Center for the Blind, board member of The Colorado Affiliate, president of the NFB CO Sports and Recreation Division, and a strong woman who has not allowed blindness to define her or her future. Please take time to read this awesome blog she authored to share with you her inspirations, achievements, and her keys to success. Follow this link to read this months blog: http://nabslink.org/content/keys-success-maureen-nietfeld If you have any questions or comments please contact Bryan at: bjduarte at asu.edu Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From dandrews at visi.com Sat Apr 22 03:40:19 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:40:19 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? In-Reply-To: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> References: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: We have a list here called blind rollers, http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org and they can tell you all about it. Dave At 10:32 AM 4/21/2017, you wrote: >is there anyway to travel in power chair if you have your travel >cane to guide you? can you still use a power chair without sight? From ahc43 at drexel.edu Sat Apr 22 21:00:36 2017 From: ahc43 at drexel.edu (Alex Cohen) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:00:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Trying To Make A Difference - Please Consider Helping Message-ID: <001e01d2bbab$7da67b70$78f37250$@drexel.edu> Friends, The online accessibility and usability of commercial websites affects people of all abilities, including those of us with a disability. While some companies have shown an interest in inclusive digital design to make their online experiences usable to the disability community, unfortunately most companies have not. Please consider participating in this research as I am really trying to make a difference in the virtual world for those of us with a visual or print disability. Blind and low vision participants answer opinion questions about policy issues regarding online accessibility of commercial websites, and then how they would react to two different online accessibility-related conditions. It should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. Help ensure that the virtual world is as accessible and inclusive as it should be. Participation is completely voluntary and you can stop taking the survey at any time. To start the survey visit https://drexel.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_a5D7KnUJjJKsEpT For your participation, you will be entered into a drawing to win a $300 Amazon gift card. This research has approval from the Drexel University IRB. The survey has been checked for usability by respected accessibility professionals in the industry. If you have any questions or issues, please contact Alex Cohen by email at ahc43 at drexel.edu Thank you for your kind consideration. Alex Alex H. Cohen Ph.D. Candidate Marketing Department LeBow College of Business Drexel University 3220 Market St. Philadelphia, PA 19104 Cell: 215.292.1455< tel:215.292.1455> From misokwak12 at gmail.com Sat Apr 22 23:27:24 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 16:27:24 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Message-ID: Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Apr 22 23:31:57 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:31:57 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and searching for specific pages, with no luck. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 22 23:59:15 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:59:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2bbc4$7344d280$59ce7780$@sbcglobal.net> Hi everyone, For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. There is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue box. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and searching for specific pages, with no luck. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 23 00:02:54 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:02:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is CTRL, Shift, N. -----Original Message----- From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi everyone, For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. There is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue box. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and searching for specific pages, with no luck. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 00:02:57 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:02:57 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <000001d2bbc4$7344d280$59ce7780$@sbcglobal.net> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$7344d280$59ce7780$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <008601d2bbc4$f7807220$e6815660$@gmail.com> Thanks very much! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi everyone, For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. There is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue box. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and searching for specific pages, with no luck. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 00:12:58 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:12:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01e901d2bbc6$5d9350e0$18b9f2a0$@gmail.com> Whoa, those are giant docs! Well, what I suggest you do is convert the PDFs into Word docs or other files with such formatting, then jump to that particular page. If that particular page may not have the correct info that you're looking for that was on that same page in the PDF, you can see if you can do a sentence search to find it. BTW, not trying to be nosy or weird or anything, and I know I probably am when I ask this, but are you from outside the US? Your name seems a little foreign so I'm just wondering. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 00:13:30 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:13:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> Whoops! Well, that's ok. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is CTRL, Shift, N. -----Original Message----- From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi everyone, For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. There is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue box. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and searching for specific pages, with no luck. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From misokwak12 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 00:38:41 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:38:41 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you all for who replied. CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? Thanks again. Miso Kwak On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Whoops! Well, that's ok. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is > CTRL, > Shift, N. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi everyone, > > For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. > There > is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe > reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. > > To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue > box. > > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've > experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and > searching for specific pages, with no luck. > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf > documents. > My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and > asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then > 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or > NVDA? > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 23 01:16:40 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:16:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2bbcf$43ebffd0$cbc3ff70$@sbcglobal.net> Thanks for understanding! In Word, the keystroke for going to a certain page is CTRL, G. The Adobe keystroke is CTRL, Shift, N. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:14 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Whoops! Well, that's ok. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is CTRL, Shift, N. -----Original Message----- From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi everyone, For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. There is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue box. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Cory McMahon Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and searching for specific pages, with no luck. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf documents. My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or NVDA? Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 23 01:22:08 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:22:08 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Thank you all for who replied. CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? Thanks again. Miso Kwak On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Whoops! Well, that's ok. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is > CTRL, > Shift, N. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi everyone, > > For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. > There > is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe > reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. > > To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue > box. > > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've > experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and > searching for specific pages, with no luck. > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf > documents. > My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and > asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then > 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or > NVDA? > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 01:24:44 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:24:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <01f201d2bbd0$6401b1b0$2c051510$@gmail.com> It can either say "empty document" or "no links", the latter being if the doc is a text file and not an image. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:22 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Thank you all for who replied. CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? Thanks again. Miso Kwak On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Whoops! Well, that's ok. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is > CTRL, Shift, N. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi everyone, > > For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. > There > is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if > Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. > > To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" > dialogue box. > > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory > McMahon via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've > experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature > and searching for specific pages, with no luck. > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read > large pdf > documents. > My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages > long and > asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then > 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using > JAWS or > NVDA? > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | > Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 23 01:29:17 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:29:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <01f201d2bbd0$6401b1b0$2c051510$@gmail.com> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> <01f201d2bbd0$6401b1b0$2c051510$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01d2bbd1$074a3b30$15deb190$@sbcglobal.net> Jordan, thanks for your explanation; I've had this happen, too, and it's so frustrating! Mizo, your teacher needs to give you a version of the PDF JAWS can read. The reason JAWS says "graphic" is because the document has been scanned as a picture, so JAWS just sees a picture, and it can't read pictures. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:25 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document It can either say "empty document" or "no links", the latter being if the doc is a text file and not an image. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:22 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Thank you all for who replied. CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? Thanks again. Miso Kwak On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Whoops! Well, that's ok. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is > CTRL, Shift, N. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi everyone, > > For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. > There > is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if > Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. > > To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" > dialogue box. > > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory > McMahon via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've > experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature > and searching for specific pages, with no luck. > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read > large pdf > documents. > My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages > long and > asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then > 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using > JAWS or > NVDA? > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | > Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From misokwak12 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 02:07:54 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:07:54 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <000d01d2bbd1$074a3b30$15deb190$@sbcglobal.net> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> <01f201d2bbd0$6401b1b0$2c051510$@gmail.com> <000d01d2bbd1$074a3b30$15deb190$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Frustrating indeed. For now I got this situation under control as I located a text version online. Anyways, thanks for the responses. --Miso On 4/22/17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > Jordan, thanks for your explanation; I've had this happen, too, and it's so > frustrating! > > Mizo, your teacher needs to give you a version of the PDF JAWS can read. > The > reason JAWS says "graphic" is because the document has been scanned as a > picture, so JAWS just sees a picture, and it can't read pictures. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan > Scheffer > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:25 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Jordan Scheffer > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > It can either say "empty document" or "no links", the latter being if the > doc is a text file and not an image. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:22 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Thank you all for who replied. > CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is > only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read > protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. > > Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? > > Thanks again. > Miso Kwak > > On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> Whoops! Well, that's ok. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via > NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Jen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >> >> I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is >> CTRL, Shift, N. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. >> There >> is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if >> Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. >> >> To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" >> dialogue box. >> >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Jen >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory >> McMahon via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> >> Cc: Cory McMahon >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >> >> I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've >> experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature >> and searching for specific pages, with no luck. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >> >> Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read >> large > pdf >> documents. >> My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages >> long > and >> asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then >> 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using >> JAWS > or >> NVDA? >> Thank you in advance. >> Miso Kwak >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >> .com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 02:43:38 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 22:43:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <000d01d2bbd1$074a3b30$15deb190$@sbcglobal.net> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> <01f201d2bbd0$6401b1b0$2c051510$@gmail.com> <000d01d2bbd1$074a3b30$15deb190$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <01f401d2bbdb$6976f000$3c64d000$@gmail.com> Your welcome. I agree with you, yes, Miso-san, the doc is essentially a picture unless it is in a text format. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:29 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Jordan, thanks for your explanation; I've had this happen, too, and it's so frustrating! Mizo, your teacher needs to give you a version of the PDF JAWS can read. The reason JAWS says "graphic" is because the document has been scanned as a picture, so JAWS just sees a picture, and it can't read pictures. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:25 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document It can either say "empty document" or "no links", the latter being if the doc is a text file and not an image. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:22 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Thank you all for who replied. CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? Thanks again. Miso Kwak On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Whoops! Well, that's ok. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is > CTRL, Shift, N. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi everyone, > > For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. > There > is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if > Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. > > To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" > dialogue box. > > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory > McMahon via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've > experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature > and searching for specific pages, with no luck. > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read > large pdf > documents. > My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages > long and > asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then > 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using > JAWS or > NVDA? > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | > Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Sun Apr 23 04:21:46 2017 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:21:46 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <005401d2bbe9$1f39a010$5dace030$@visi.com> Hi, What I have found is that I generally set Adobe Acrobat to load the entire document. However, when I need to print or look at particular pages, I specify that documents need to be loaded a page at a time. Such options as going to a page number are not reliable if the screen reader has loaded the entire document into the virtual buffer. The "Go To" page may not always give the exact page number that is needed, but once one figures out how far off the number is, one can make a pretty good guess. Usually, CONTROL PGDN and CONTROL PGUP can be used to move to the next and previous pates. If one loads the entire document, one might be able to use the JAWS search capability to look for the first page number. If this number does not appear too often in the text, this can provide another path to get to the desired pages. As is often the case, you need to experiment and figure out what fits best into how you approach documents. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:22 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document Thank you all for who replied. CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? Thanks again. Miso Kwak On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Whoops! Well, that's ok. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is > CTRL, > Shift, N. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi everyone, > > For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. > There > is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if Adobe > reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. > > To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" dialogue > box. > > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Cory McMahon > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've > experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature and > searching for specific pages, with no luck. > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document > > Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read large pdf > documents. > My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages long and > asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then > 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using JAWS or > NVDA? > Thank you in advance. > Miso Kwak > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m From alpineimagination at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 04:46:33 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:46:33 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> <01f201d2bbd0$6401b1b0$2c051510$@gmail.com> <000d01d2bbd1$074a3b30$15deb190$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Miso, I'm glad you got the issue resolved. In the future, could you email yourself the document and use it on your I-Phereo? I had a 500 plus page PDF document with all the possible classes my school offered. I was able to open it as an I-Book and navigate around it the way I do books. I searched for any key words of classes I was interested in. The only thing is that I'm not sure if the page numbers of a PDF correspond with the pages if it was opened up in a book format. Vejas > On Apr 22, 2017, at 19:07, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Frustrating indeed. > For now I got this situation under control as I located a text version online. > Anyways, thanks for the responses. > --Miso > >> On 4/22/17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: >> Jordan, thanks for your explanation; I've had this happen, too, and it's so >> frustrating! >> >> Mizo, your teacher needs to give you a version of the PDF JAWS can read. >> The >> reason JAWS says "graphic" is because the document has been scanned as a >> picture, so JAWS just sees a picture, and it can't read pictures. >> >> Jen >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan >> Scheffer >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:25 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> >> Cc: Jordan Scheffer >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >> >> It can either say "empty document" or "no links", the latter being if the >> doc is a text file and not an image. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:22 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Jen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >> >> When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? >> >> Jen >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via >> NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >> >> Thank you all for who replied. >> CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS is >> only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read >> protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. >> >> Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? >> >> Thanks again. >> Miso Kwak >> >>> On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Whoops! Well, that's ok. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >> NABS-L >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>> Cc: Jen >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>> >>> I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is >>> CTRL, Shift, N. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. >>> There >>> is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if >>> Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. >>> >>> To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" >>> dialogue box. >>> >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Jen >>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory >>> McMahon via NABS-L >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>> >>> Cc: Cory McMahon >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>> >>> I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've >>> experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature >>> and searching for specific pages, with no luck. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Cory McMahon >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>> >>> Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read >>> large >> pdf >>> documents. >>> My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages >>> long >> and >>> asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then >>> 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using >>> JAWS >> or >>> NVDA? >>> Thank you in advance. >>> Miso Kwak >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >>> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c >>> om >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >>> et >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >>> .com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education >> Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 08:28:05 2017 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 09:28:05 +0100 Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document In-Reply-To: References: <007c01d2bbc0$a2cca040$e865e0c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2bbc4$f5e27990$e1a76cb0$@sbcglobal.net> <01eb01d2bbc6$705086d0$50f19470$@gmail.com> <000501d2bbd0$07e7d030$17b77090$@sbcglobal.net> <01f201d2bbd0$6401b1b0$2c051510$@gmail.com> <000d01d2bbd1$074a3b30$15deb190$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hello Miso, If you are able to email the PDF to yourself, you may be able to view it as an HTML document. I tend to open PDF documents and copy and paste the information into MS Word. If you have Kurzweil, you have the option to run a paperless scan. Hopefully some of this helps. Very best wishes, Sandra. On 4/23/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Miso, > I'm glad you got the issue resolved. In the future, could you email yourself > the document and use it on your I-Phereo? > I had a 500 plus page PDF document with all the possible classes my school > offered. I was able to open it as an I-Book and navigate around it the way I > do books. I searched for any key words of classes I was interested in. The > only thing is that I'm not sure if the page numbers of a PDF correspond with > the pages if it was opened up in a book format. > Vejas > >> On Apr 22, 2017, at 19:07, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Frustrating indeed. >> For now I got this situation under control as I located a text version >> online. >> Anyways, thanks for the responses. >> --Miso >> >>> On 4/22/17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: >>> Jordan, thanks for your explanation; I've had this happen, too, and it's >>> so >>> frustrating! >>> >>> Mizo, your teacher needs to give you a version of the PDF JAWS can read. >>> The >>> reason JAWS says "graphic" is because the document has been scanned as a >>> picture, so JAWS just sees a picture, and it can't read pictures. >>> >>> Jen >>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan >>> Scheffer >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:25 PM >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>> >>> Cc: Jordan Scheffer >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>> >>> It can either say "empty document" or "no links", the latter being if >>> the >>> doc is a text file and not an image. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >>> NABS-L >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:22 PM >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>> Cc: Jen >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>> >>> When you open the PDF, what does JAWS say? >>> >>> Jen >>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>> via >>> NABS-L >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:39 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>> >>> Thank you all for who replied. >>> CTRL + shift N did open the go to page dialogue but it seems like JAWS >>> is >>> only recognizing the pdf as graphic... also the pdf document is read >>> protected so RoboBraille is not letting me convert using their system. >>> >>> Does anyone know how to make the document unprotected? >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> Miso Kwak >>> >>>> On 4/22/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Whoops! Well, that's ok. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >>> NABS-L >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:03 PM >>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>> Cc: Jen >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>>> >>>> I was wrong about the "Go to Page" keystroke. The correct keystroke is >>>> CTRL, Shift, N. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:59 PM >>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> For PDF documents, I have Adobe Reader set to read the whole document. >>>> There >>>> is an option in the "Preferences" menu that lets you determine if >>>> Adobe reads the whole document or the currently visible page only. >>>> >>>> To go to a certain page, press CONTROL, G for the "Go to Page" >>>> dialogue box. >>>> >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Jen >>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory >>>> McMahon via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:32 PM >>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>> >>>> Cc: Cory McMahon >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>>> >>>> I'll be interested to hear about some of these tips, also, as I've >>>> experienced similar difficulties. I've tried using the "find" feature >>>> and searching for specific pages, with no luck. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Cory McMahon >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:27 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Navigating Large PDF document >>>> >>>> Hi all, I am writing to see if I can get some tips on how to read >>>> large >>> pdf >>>> documents. >>>> My instructor has been giving out pdf files that are 300-400 pages >>>> long >>> and >>>> asking us to read select pages. (e.g., pages 50-53 then >>>> 90-93) What is the most efficient way to navigate these texts using >>>> JAWS >>> or >>>> NVDA? >>>> Thank you in advance. >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >>>> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c >>>> om >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >>>> et >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education >>> Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >>> et >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >>> et >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com > -- Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From knownoflove at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 11:11:22 2017 From: knownoflove at gmail.com (Miranda B.) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 07:11:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] More on the situation with the hotline I want to volunteer with In-Reply-To: <003101d2b7cc$cfd8a9a0$6f89fce0$@com> References: <003101d2b7cc$cfd8a9a0$6f89fce0$@com> Message-ID: <003001d2bc22$57e71e40$07b55ac0$@gmail.com> Hi Sam, I apologize for my delay in responding to your message, but I wanted to chime in with some suggestions. First, I might suggest that you reach out to the Community Service (as you're volunteering) and Human Services (since crisis hotlines fall into this category) devisions of the NFB. The Office professionals devision may also be helpful, as far as working with multi-line telephone systems. Their mailing lists can be found at: www.nfbnet.org. For those believing that I'm continuing what may seem to some as an off-topic discussion, my volunteering is directly related to my education, as I use volunteering as a way to boost my resume and future chances for employment, while at the same time serving my community. As such, I volunteer in roles that are directly related to my major in order to accomplish the aforementioned career goals. With many of my volunteer opportunities that I've gotten involved in locally, I've found that not disclosing my disability prior to an interview/orientation allows me the best chance to present myself as competent and able to function normally prior to diving into the accomidations discussion. I use my first interactions at the orientation to request a more involved discussion. This also gives me the opportunity to read any hesitation or observe any concerns brought up by either myself or the organization's staff. A future discussion allows me the time to do further research on resolutions to concerns, as you are so aptly doing now. I strive to treat my volunteer roles like I would an employment opportunity, as they could serve as springboards for future opportunities, even if not with the same organization. Like you, I unfortunately came to this conclusion through much trial and error. However, also like you, I have learned that patience, persistence, and a large dose of grace and tact go a long way in educating both myself and those I interact with in these various roles. For instance, after mentioning my blindness upon initial contact with a local organization, I was abruptly dismissed from even participating in a volunteer training due to previous negative experiences the volunteer coordinator had with another visually impaired volunteer over 10 years ago. After discussing my situation with others and thinking through an appropriate and professional response, I contacted the coordinator to address her concerns and request an in-person meeting. I just completed the in-class training for this volunteer opportunity yesterday, and I'm hoping to begin my observation in May. I share this example as an encouragement to you and others reading this, that second chances do exist. I applaud you for exemplifying these traits as you continue to move forward towards your volunteer goals. One thing in your below message that I wanted to highlight were the buttons on the phone. Either they could be marked with tape or a bump dot that could be removed, or you could simply memorize them. For me, I would think of these buttons like the keys on a computer keyboard, buttons on a non-touch screen cell phone, or anything else with buttons. It's a matter of memorization. Many times, if someone is on hold, a series of beeps/tones will intermittently sound to alert you that someone is on hold. If you're concerned about what line you're answering, the phone system may actually have different ring tones/patterns for each individual line. So, you could observe another volunteer as part of your training process, take note of these different line ringtones/patterns, and memorize them. The volunteer staff member may have mentioned June 2, as the organization may be in the middle of other unrelated but more pressing matters that will be resolved by that date. I wouldn't read too far into her response. To me, it seems that she's willing to continue this discussion with you after June 2, and you're doing well to locate possible solutions before then. I hope this helps, and have a wonderful week! Best wishes, Miranda -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 6:49 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Sam Subject: [nabs-l] More on the situation with the hotline I want to volunteer with Hi everyone, So it's kind of a long story with me and this hotline but I want to try and explain everything plus give all sites involved. So the hotline is the national runaway safeline. https://www.1800runaway.org/support-youth-in-crisis/volunteer/ I Carol is the site they use to schedule shifts, log calls and other things not related to the phone. http://www.icarol.com/ Here is shore tel the site/software that works with the phones, showing incoming number on screen and other things. (didn't have time to explore phones much) https://www.shoretel.com/ So I contacted them in 2016 to volunteer. As I said in my other message I've done hotlines before and this is a really famous one as it's national. Since moving to Chicago I've always wanted to do it. So I contacted them and maybe I shouldn't have done this but I told her I was blind. I mean she would have found that out anyway. I mean I didn't just say that obviously. I filled out an application and everything. And most people then go to an orientation and then she interviews you but it's at like the last 15 minutes of the orientation and I figured we'd need to have a bit longer to talk about this. So after knowing this she eventually said that I could come in and her and someone from IT wanted to see how I used the computer and phones and everything. Just so you know, they measure all this stuff about runaway youth like gender, race, sexual orientation, age, time on the street ETC. Disability isn't even on the list at all. So I don't think they've ever had a volunteer with any kind of disability. The IT guy was actually really cool. His wife had CP so he knew a bit about screen readers. So this woman is well, very professional, I think wants things a certain way, not necessarily personable, didn't give much away about warming up to me or anything. So I went through the Icarol site. It was totally anxiety provoking with them watching and having to navigate a totally new site for the first time. Ya know people who have no idea you can even use a computer and knowing every minutre they're judging on how you can do this stuff when you've never seen the site before and only had an hour. So we went through the site at the time there were a few inaccessible things like some unlabeled buttons. But generally it was ok. So I really wish I knew all the ins and outs of the requirements and what exactly she's so worried about. That's like the big unknown right now. I'm just guessing off this meeting a year ago. So basically a youth calls in and you do crisis intervention on what's going on, and refer to resources if necessary. People will take notes while on the phone on paper and I could use the braillenote for that which they were fine with. But I believe while on the phone you would have to actually call out to like a shelter to get information on current availability and then have the person still on hold. I'm not sure because they never told me. By the time we got to shore tel which is where the phone and computer are connected it was almost time to leave. But the one thing that we did find out was the whole headphone wires getting tangled in the phone cord. Can't believe there are still landlines out there LOL! So from what I remember the number that calls in does show up on the screen of this shore tel site. I'm not sure what else shows up there or what it's for other than like I said the computer and phone are connected. When looking at the phone what she was worried about was me navigating all the different buttons, as there are rows of them above the regular phone keypad. Not just transfer but like four different open lines, hold, conference call (which you would also do, you actually at times have to do conference calls with the youth and family members) ETC. So they're worried about me not knowing for example whether someone is still on hold ETC as that stuff is shown visually on the display. Like I said the phone stuff was literally the last 15 minutes a year ago so trying to remember. So we got to the end. And said we D follow up. It was I thought clear to all of us that we'd continue to explore the phone situation and brainstorm solutions. A couple weeks later she wrote back saying she and her supervisor had decided I wasn't a good fit for the phones. So no problem solving. But that I could maybe do the online services, so answering chats, e-mails and on a forum. Well the whole point of a hotline is you're talking to someone on the phone. And getting that voice to voice connection. This by the way is the only hotline in Chicago that really I could do. What crisis hotlines there are for like suicide and stuff are through hospitals. There's one rape crisis line but if you do that you have to be an advocate and do rape kits in the hospital which I would not want to do. And I think there's one domestic violence hotline and they don't need volunteers. It says on their site. So this is really the only hotline choice I have. So when she said that I thought well that's nuts if I want to do a text service thing I might as well do a crisis line through text. Which I have done for over a year. They're pretty good. I find texting really impersonal for the kind of things we're working with. I really miss that more in person voice to voice connection. I asked and she agreed I could contact them in a year this was in 2016 So now it's been a year. Before contacting them I looked up I carol. Wrote them. They're really good. They're like accessibility is so important, our new version is way more accessible we've worked with , other blind people on different hotlines ETC. They worked with JAWS but they've never worked with NVDA which I have. So they were like no problem we want to see how this works we'll do a screen sharing session and everything. It was like the best response I've gotten from a tech organization. So I wrote the volunteer coordinator, mentioning I'd be helping work with them and NVDA this week as well as saying that I carol said that if they wanted to be upgraded to an earlier date than the date they're upgrading because they have a visually impaired person they can just ask. Well she wrote back this very distant e-mail focusing on not knowing about NVDA and not knowing when the updgrade would be released and this is the end of the e-mail. we are not in a position to assess potential compatibility with the NVDA software, or the other requirements of volunteers in providing crisis intervention services at the National Runaway Safeline. We thank you for your interest and will follow up with you after we have completed the necessary program revisions and are in a better place to discuss NRS volunteer opportunities. We do not expect to reconnect you any sooner than June 2, 2017. So I don't know what this June 2nd thing is about at all. So I'm like ok now what? Like I said this is like my one hotline. She's technically not discriminating, she had that meeting with me last year and everything. She's just totally dragging her feet with an attitude. I mean the first thing that was done with other organizations when I was in MA was let's sit down and see if you meet all the requirements of a volunteer/ intern minus being blind. Then if you do we talk about accomidations. But with her it's almost backwards like Oh you're blind we need to know if you can do all this stuff because you're blind and then we'll see if you can actually volunteer outside of that. Not in so many words but that seems to be the feeling. Part of me wishes that I could just start over. Like maybe we just got off on the wrong foot with me telling her I was blind. But she's the type of person I think who couldn't have gotten past that anyway even if I just walked in the door. She'd likely still be doing this whole thing with being all obsessed with my blindness and not looking at anything else. I just never had these problems in MA. IL is just crazy closed minded. Sorry for how long this is I hope I explained things better. Sam --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/knownoflove%40gmail.com From nabs.president at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 15:04:24 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 11:04:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Looking for an accessible way to read financial statements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02b701d2bc42$e5416fa0$afc44ee0$@gmail.com> Hey Jason, If you use the SEC site, that has many downloadable documents that can be in Excel. If you give me an idea of companies, private or public, I can better help. I have done similar assignments and have found it very accessible once the financial statements are downloaded. Talk soon, Kathryn Webster -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jason Polansky via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 6:50 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org; nfbcs at nfbnet.org; jobs at nfbnet.org Cc: Jason Polansky Subject: [nabs-l] Looking for an accessible way to read financial statements Hi all, I am taking an accounting class, and we are doing a project in which we are analyzing and comparing the financial statements of two major corporations. It seemed that Google finance was pretty accessible, but the information was in a table and there were four different values for each item. I'm supposed to compare two consecutive years. essentially was not able to decipher which numbers corresponded with the respective values. I also found some pdf documents of the statement of cash flows, balance sheet, and income statement on the corporation's web site, but I was not able to make much sense of them either. Thus far, I have had my accounting book produced in Braille, and the brailleest did quite a good job in transcribing them in a way that I was able to grasp. I have also used excel to complete homework assignments. However, trying to access actual statements of of a company seems much more challenging. I may just have to resort to using a human reader, but I would appreciate any advice from anyone who has experience with this. Thank you _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.c om From emitchell927 at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 16:03:00 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:03:00 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Honors research Message-ID: <40F9B6D4-42DB-4099-8531-49422B7C27A9@gmail.com> Hey, everyone My project was selected to receive funding from my university however since it takes a lot of money to travel I could use some help by any donations possible. The project is below— The Fates of Blind People in Nazi Germany Statement of Purpose: I have an opportunity to spend the summer in Germany at the University of Köln to study the impact of Nazi T4 on blind German adults and children. My parents, who are GW faculty members, have received a grant to live, lecture, and make a documentary film on the T4 program and contemporary memorialization efforts. The research will involve travel to all six T4 Euthanasia Memorial Centers (Brandenburg, Grafeneck, Bernburg, Sonnenstein-Pirna, Hadamar, and Hartheim Castle) as well as to two T4 memorial sites outside of Germany (Vienna, Austria and Posnen, Poland). All of the memorial centres include an archive with research materials related to that particular site as well as medical records of the 300,000+ disabled killed. In these records is where I will look up the individual stories of blind people caught up in the T4 killing program. Using optical character recognition software that allows my phone to scan paper documents, graphs, and charts (can't do photos) I will gain access to this unique collection of research materials in order to pursue my topic. One important thing about T4 is that the staff and killing technology was later transferred to Holocaust death camps. Thus, T4 was the precursor to the mass murder of 6 million Jewish people (mostly Eastern European not German). The memorial sites that, in some cases, still house the original death apparatus (gas chamber, observation window, autopsy room, and crematoria) are also on the campuses of operating psychiatric hospitals and prisons. Whereas the killing of "psychiatric patients" would seem to include only those with mental impairments, people with physical and sensory impairments were also killed because eugenics attempted to rid the nation of disabled people as excessively burdensome. As a young woman who is blind and also has a physical disability, I would have been included in those groups identified as "unworthy of life." Therefore the opportunity to study T4 has significant meaning to my research in that we must resist the urge to artificially separate the past from the present. Today across Europe and the United States we see many potential harms to disabled peoples' well being on the horizon including: repeal of the Affordable Care Act which provides healthcare for a large percentage of disabled people (including myself), the passage of Assisted Suicide Laws, the lowering of the age limit for assisted suicide requests, the alarming escalation of the number of disabled women in prison, public education's increasing participation in the pipeline to prison program for students with autism and other behavioral disabilities, and the raiding of healthcare coffers in the name of austerity cut backs to balance beleaguered state budgets. I have written on the T4 program for my Introduction to Critical Theory class and on Marxist analyses of disabled people excluded form the workforce for my Literature in the Financial Imagination class this semester. Thus, the opportunity to live in Germany will significantly enhance my developing research interests in this area. While in Germany I will participate in the making of a feature length documentary film on T4 and contemporary memorialization being made by my family that records our many visits to Euthanasia Memorial Centers over the past two decades. Research Questions and Methodology My primary goal while researching in Germany this summer will be to create a history of blind peoples’ fates during World War II under National Socialism (Nazi authoritarianism). We know that many blind people were killed in the medical mass murder campaign known as the T4 program because all T4 researchers identify blindness as a category of selection (Robert Lifton, Henry Friedlander, Götz Aly, for example). We also know that blind Jewish people were killed in the Holocaust because blindness was one of the conditions selected out at the train spurs by Nazi physicians and SS officers for immediate gassing. Sometimes people with visual impairments slipped through this initial selection process and worked under conditions of forced labor in the camps. For instance, in Martin Sherman’s play, Bent, the character of Rudy is killed because he has poor vision after living and laboring for a time in a Jewish concentration camp outside of Berlin (likely a camp similar to Sachsenhausen). Significant to my interests is the fact that I have visited one German memorial, Otto Weidt’s Blind Workshop, where blind people made brooms and brushes during World War II on Rosenthaler Strasse in Berlin. Since the factory owner, Otto Weidt (who had a visual impairment himself), was able to keep blind and deaf people from T4 and concentration camp deportations until 1943, I want to research how other blind people might have been employed during this period and whether employment served as a buffer against extermination? There are also specific questions about blind peoples’ fate that are not fully answered in the existing literature. For instance, T4 began by killing disabled infants and young children and current research identifies blindness as a condition that was used to select disabled adults in the adult killing program. Thus, were blind children targeted as well as adults in the T4 program? In other words, was blindness considered a severe enough disability to get children caught up in the T4 net or was blindness only operative in the adult killing phase? One of the research rationale offered up for the relationship between T4 and “the final solution” is that T4 physicians went to Jewish concentration camps and selected ill and disabled Jewish people for death at the T4 killing centers before the program was stopped in late 1942. This transitional program of mass murder is referred to as the 14f13 program. Was blindness a criteria for selecting disabled Jewish people for killing during this period between T4 and the larger Holocaust? To answer this question I will read the personal diaries of the 14f13 physicians contained in the memorial archives. There are also questions relating to contemporary memorialization efforts about the victims of the T4 program. If blindness was a key criteria used for selection, why is there only one memorial site devote to blind people who killed by the Nazis and what does that tell us about contemporary modes of memorialization? Should T4-related memorials be based on single disability categories – such as blindness – and what can we learn about T4 by focusing on such particular disability experiences? Also, is there a danger in focusing the memorialization effort so tightly? Future presentation and/or publication of the result sof this hands-on research experience might develop into my honors thesis at GW. The deaf history researcher, Horst Biesold, wrote a book on the fate of deaf people in Nazi Germany titled, Crying Hands: Eugenics and Deaf People in Nazi Germany. Perhaps this depth of research experience might well allow a more extended study of blind people in a similar vein. I am certain that the NFB would be greatly interested in any research outcomes from this project and that I could present them at their annual convention. Please share and spread the word. The website is below: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/disposable-humanity#/ Thank you for your time, Emma Jane Mitchell From nabs.president at gmail.com Sun Apr 23 18:06:53 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 14:06:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fundraising Committee call tomorrow, Monday, at 9 pm eastern! Message-ID: <04bb01d2bc5c$63adbfb0$2b093f10$@gmail.com> Good afternoon students, I hope this messages reaches you in high spirits as we approach the final stretch of the semester. I would like to invite each of you to join our NABS Fundraising Committee tomorrow night at 9pm eastern. As national Convention is less than three months away, it's time to finalize logistics for events and raise some money before July! I am excited to speak with you; and hope you will bring great ideas to the table. Call: 605-475-6700; Access code: 7869673. Best, Kathryn Webster President From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 23 18:45:49 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 14:45:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? In-Reply-To: <02fa01d2b7cf$4df2d980$e9d88c80$@gmail.com> References: <003601d2b7cd$546b69f0$fd423dd0$@com><9458F55F-C265-4FED-BA74-A94B384B17BF@gmail.com> <02fa01d2b7cf$4df2d980$e9d88c80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <430C99DE729A4789A6AE36FF815487E5@OwnerPC> Justin, right; go to meeting is used in educational settings and I can see it being used for remote meetings for school credit internships. So, yes its on topic in my opinion. Sam, sorry I cannot answer the question, but I hope someone else can. I have this question too because many volunteer and job sites require this. For now, my best advice is to use a video platform which is accessible such as skype. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:06 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? I've seen go to meeting used in educational settings, however. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Roberts via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Angela Roberts Subject: Re: [nabs-l] using go to meeting with NVDA? Dear Sam, This has nothing to do with education. I am sorry that you were having technology issues with the software, however I feel that this would be suited for a different group. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Sam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi again, > > So the person from I carol and I are going to do a screen sharing > session. She said in the past she's used go to meeting. > > When I went through the training I did for the textline I'm currently > with they were using go to meeting at first. It was a disaster. Could > not get anywhere at all. Froze NVDA, just was completely useless. > Called them and they flat said they had no plans to work with blind/VI > individuals, though they had stuff for the deaf. Me and others from my > organization contacted them and they were just terrible. > > Have people found any way around this? > > Like been able to use their site with NVDA and I just couldn't figure > it out? > > For that situation with the training we used Uber conference and so > that still connected with go to meeting, for the others it's > complicated but it worked out. > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886 > %40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From emitchell927 at gmail.com Mon Apr 24 15:08:37 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:08:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Honors research information Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Precious Sent from my IPhone From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon Apr 24 19:04:49 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:04:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube Accessibility Message-ID: <005f01d2bd2d$a5e79000$f1b6b000$@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I've noticed something odd happen to me over these past couple days and I'm wondering if any of you may know why and how it happened. So, I was on my computer and happen to stumble upon a YouTube video that I didn't think would be accessible, since I was using my school laptop at the time and. well.. YouTube and school don't exactly match up. Anyway, I decided to hit the link anyway and.. It worked! Yes, the YouTube video, for the first time, played. I was, of course, shocked, but I also questioned why and how this could have happened. For the past eight months I have not been able to play a video, whether educational or not, through the YouTube platform, and suddenly now I can? Do you all know what may have happened? I know this may not be the best listserve to talk about this, but I'm just curious and wondering if any of you may have experienced the same issue. Jordan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 24 21:34:11 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:34:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube Accessibility In-Reply-To: <005f01d2bd2d$a5e79000$f1b6b000$@gmail.com> References: <005f01d2bd2d$a5e79000$f1b6b000$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201d2bd42$83d6a860$8b83f920$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Jordan, I've never had this happen to me, but there could be two reasons. The most likely is your version of Flash Player being outdated and sound problems on the computer. Another reason could be YouTube problems. Or you could have muted the video accidentally. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:05 PM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube Accessibility Hello everyone, I've noticed something odd happen to me over these past couple days and I'm wondering if any of you may know why and how it happened. So, I was on my computer and happen to stumble upon a YouTube video that I didn't think would be accessible, since I was using my school laptop at the time and. well.. YouTube and school don't exactly match up. Anyway, I decided to hit the link anyway and.. It worked! Yes, the YouTube video, for the first time, played. I was, of course, shocked, but I also questioned why and how this could have happened. For the past eight months I have not been able to play a video, whether educational or not, through the YouTube platform, and suddenly now I can? Do you all know what may have happened? I know this may not be the best listserve to talk about this, but I'm just curious and wondering if any of you may have experienced the same issue. Jordan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon Apr 24 21:57:53 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:57:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube Accessibility In-Reply-To: <000201d2bd42$83d6a860$8b83f920$@sbcglobal.net> References: <005f01d2bd2d$a5e79000$f1b6b000$@gmail.com> <000201d2bd42$83d6a860$8b83f920$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <014d01d2bd45$d3888ba0$7a99a2e0$@gmail.com> I don't think it was this at all. All the time, YouTube would say that the video was restricted for me, but suddenly it's not. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:34 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] YouTube Accessibility Hi Jordan, I've never had this happen to me, but there could be two reasons. The most likely is your version of Flash Player being outdated and sound problems on the computer. Another reason could be YouTube problems. Or you could have muted the video accidentally. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:05 PM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube Accessibility Hello everyone, I've noticed something odd happen to me over these past couple days and I'm wondering if any of you may know why and how it happened. So, I was on my computer and happen to stumble upon a YouTube video that I didn't think would be accessible, since I was using my school laptop at the time and. well.. YouTube and school don't exactly match up. Anyway, I decided to hit the link anyway and.. It worked! Yes, the YouTube video, for the first time, played. I was, of course, shocked, but I also questioned why and how this could have happened. For the past eight months I have not been able to play a video, whether educational or not, through the YouTube platform, and suddenly now I can? Do you all know what may have happened? I know this may not be the best listserve to talk about this, but I'm just curious and wondering if any of you may have experienced the same issue. Jordan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From awildheir at gmail.com Mon Apr 24 22:37:25 2017 From: awildheir at gmail.com (Aimee Harwood) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:37:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Law Schools Message-ID: <1F010664-013F-4B52-8669-60C2A5250B59@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I am looking into different law schools and would like to hear from any of you regarding your experiences, good and bad. I think it would be great to have a site where we could list a school and then students could rate it as they experience how the school handles their disability. Maybe it could be anonymous. Any way. If you don't mind sharing your experience I would appreciate hearing about them. I am trying to decide which school I want to attend. Aimee Sent from my iPhone From mikaelastevens at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 04:24:10 2017 From: mikaelastevens at gmail.com (Mikaela Stevens) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:24:10 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] video for college ambassador application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Precious: you could do your best to aim the camera where you think it should go. Or the first time you make a video you could ask a sighted person for help positioning your phone. The next time you make a video, you will know where to put it so it looks right. Good luck, Mikaela > On Apr 24, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > I applied to be a student ambassador at my school, and as part of the application process, I need to make a short video about why I love the school. I've got it planned out already, but I was wondering if any of you have any tips for aiming a camera. I'm planning to use my phone. > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > Precious > Sent from my IPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikaelastevens%40gmail.com From misokwak12 at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 07:02:09 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:02:09 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] video for college ambassador application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Precious, I am not super familiar with filming equipments but whatever you use, I would encourage getting sighted assistance at least in the beginning and in the editing process so that the film represents you well. For such an occasion as applying for a position I think it is important that you present the best quality of film (not necessarily artistically or in terms of production but making sure it looks good to the sighted viewers). Best, Miso On 4/24/17, Mikaela Stevens via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Precious: you could do your best to aim the camera where you think it > should go. Or the first time you make a video you could ask a sighted person > for help positioning your phone. The next time you make a video, you will > know where to put it so it looks right. > > Good luck, > Mikaela > > > >> On Apr 24, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> I applied to be a student ambassador at my school, and as part of the >> application process, I need to make a short video about why I love the >> school. I've got it planned out already, but I was wondering if any of you >> have any tips for aiming a camera. I'm planning to use my phone. >> Thanks in advance for any suggestions. >> >> Precious >> Sent from my IPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikaelastevens%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 17:25:40 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:25:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The Benefits of attending the National Convention Message-ID: <58ff8697.1a49240a.23e94.c5ac@mx.google.com> Dear Students, My name is Roanna Bacchus. Yesterday I spoke with one of the volunteers from the Braille Association of Mid Florida who told me about the annual conference that is conducted by the Visual Aid Volunteers of Florida. Until this morning I planned to take three days next week to attend this conference. I am thinking about completing the certification course to become a certified Braille transcriptionist. This morning I found out that the workshop materials for this conference will not be available in braille. Once I discovered this my dad asked me if there are any other conventions being held this year in Orlando. I told him that the Nfb's national convention is taking place here in Orlando in July. Since many of you on this list have attended the conventions each year, I have a question for you. What are the benefits of attending the Nfb national convention? Hope to hear from you soon. From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 17:29:44 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:29:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The Benefits of attending the National Convention In-Reply-To: <58ff8697.1a49240a.23e94.c5ac@mx.google.com> References: <58ff8697.1a49240a.23e94.c5ac@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <00a601d2bde9$87c092e0$9741b8a0$@gmail.com> I just can't count them, can't name them all, but you will for sure be able to get the transcription stuff in braille. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:26 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: [nabs-l] The Benefits of attending the National Convention Dear Students, My name is Roanna Bacchus. Yesterday I spoke with one of the volunteers from the Braille Association of Mid Florida who told me about the annual conference that is conducted by the Visual Aid Volunteers of Florida. Until this morning I planned to take three days next week to attend this conference. I am thinking about completing the certification course to become a certified Braille transcriptionist. This morning I found out that the workshop materials for this conference will not be available in braille. Once I discovered this my dad asked me if there are any other conventions being held this year in Orlando. I told him that the Nfb's national convention is taking place here in Orlando in July. Since many of you on this list have attended the conventions each year, I have a question for you. What are the benefits of attending the Nfb national convention? Hope to hear from you soon. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 17:30:36 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:30:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The Benefits of attending the National Convention In-Reply-To: <58ff8697.1a49240a.23e94.c5ac@mx.google.com> References: <58ff8697.1a49240a.23e94.c5ac@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <00a701d2bde9$a6cd0790$f46716b0$@gmail.com> It's amazing, you learn so much. When I go, I treate it like my new year, I feel rejuvenated. When I doon't go, when I miss a year, I hae a hard time not stagnating. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:26 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: [nabs-l] The Benefits of attending the National Convention Dear Students, My name is Roanna Bacchus. Yesterday I spoke with one of the volunteers from the Braille Association of Mid Florida who told me about the annual conference that is conducted by the Visual Aid Volunteers of Florida. Until this morning I planned to take three days next week to attend this conference. I am thinking about completing the certification course to become a certified Braille transcriptionist. This morning I found out that the workshop materials for this conference will not be available in braille. Once I discovered this my dad asked me if there are any other conventions being held this year in Orlando. I told him that the Nfb's national convention is taking place here in Orlando in July. Since many of you on this list have attended the conventions each year, I have a question for you. What are the benefits of attending the Nfb national convention? Hope to hear from you soon. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From toriclark732 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 19:41:20 2017 From: toriclark732 at yahoo.com (Tori Clark) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:41:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] video for college ambassador application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B71F4CA-B91D-443D-8E45-F0E98FF83F20@yahoo.com> I'd recommend using a tripod or selfie stick and have someone sighted on FaceTime to help you aim the camera correctly. Also have someone with sight review the tape. Tori. Black Hawk Chapter President National Federation of the Blind of Illinois. Younique presenter 309-373-2830 > On Apr 24, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > I applied to be a student ambassador at my school, and as part of the application process, I need to make a short video about why I love the school. I've got it planned out already, but I was wondering if any of you have any tips for aiming a camera. I'm planning to use my phone. > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > Precious > Sent from my IPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/toriclark732%40yahoo.com From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com Wed Apr 26 17:17:33 2017 From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:17:33 -1000 Subject: [nabs-l] REMINDER: NABS Outreach Committee Call Tuesday, May 2 at 8PM Eastern Message-ID: <129DE05D-3264-403D-AD5C-E4144F3D5D43@gmail.com> Greetings students, The NABS Outreach Committee invites you to our monthly call this Tuesday, May 2 at 8pm eastern. During this meeting, we will plan upcoming membership calls, discuss recruitment for National Convention, and focus on outreach for our Mentorship Program during July. Even if you are not coming to Convention, the more ideas, the better. We are looking forward to brainstorming with you. The conference line number is 605-475-6700; access code 7869673. Best regards, NABS Outreach Committee From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Wed Apr 26 19:42:35 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:42:35 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] The Benefits of attending the National Convention In-Reply-To: 34EmdK6GqZ65Y34EodadmF References: 34EmdK6GqZ65Y34EodadmF Message-ID: <000f01d2bec5$424b46b0$c6e1d410$@mediacombb.net> I have not been able to attend in several years. However, the benefits are numerous. One benefit is to just be around a whole bunch of people who are like you and are doing what they want to do. They can show you firsthand that yes, you can live the life you wish. They are doing it and so you can as well. There are many chances to meet people from all walks of life and find out how they manage life. There are so many groups to attend both in your desire field of employment and what other interests you may have. You will have the chance to put your hands on the technology you have heard about and actually kick the tires of it. The people from these companies are there and can answer questions directly. You can learn about different issues and what this organization is doing about them and what you can do as well. There is so much to do and so much to gain. And then there is what you take home with you. You will probably feel like when you go home, you will be pleasantly exhausted and jazzed about pursuing your dreams. In short, there's a plethora of benefits. How much you get out of it is up to you. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:26 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: [nabs-l] The Benefits of attending the National Convention Dear Students, My name is Roanna Bacchus. Yesterday I spoke with one of the volunteers from the Braille Association of Mid Florida who told me about the annual conference that is conducted by the Visual Aid Volunteers of Florida. Until this morning I planned to take three days next week to attend this conference. I am thinking about completing the certification course to become a certified Braille transcriptionist. This morning I found out that the workshop materials for this conference will not be available in braille. Once I discovered this my dad asked me if there are any other conventions being held this year in Orlando. I told him that the Nfb's national convention is taking place here in Orlando in July. Since many of you on this list have attended the conventions each year, I have a question for you. What are the benefits of attending the Nfb national convention? Hope to hear from you soon. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Wed Apr 26 19:56:24 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:56:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] accessible Hebrew courses online for fall 2017-2018 Message-ID: <008c01d2bec7$2ff30230$8fd90690$@sarahblakelarose.com> Anderson University has enrollment open for online Hebrew at the first and second year level for fall 2017/spring 2018 (taught by yours truly). These courses are open to both undergraduate and graduate students and credit is transferrable back to your institution. We would love to have you! Sarah Blake LaRose http://www.sarahblakelarose.com From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com Thu Apr 27 19:32:19 2017 From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:32:19 -1000 Subject: [nabs-l] 50th Anniversary Committee Message-ID: Aloha Students, You are invited to join the 50th Anniversary Committee's biweekly meeting this Sunday, April 30 at 8PM Eastern We will continue discussions on the NABS Olympics, NABS Network, and the Ice Cream Fundraiser. Even if you are not sure if you will be able to make it to convention, we still hope to get your input. The Conference telephone number is 605-475-6700 Code: 7869673 Mahalo, and see you Sunday Shannon KS Cantan From jfranks at nfbtx.org Fri Apr 28 03:48:47 2017 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 22:48:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? Message-ID: Hello Nabsters, I am starting to transition from gmail to Microsoft Outlook. I was wondering, what is the keystroke to add an attachment? I know some of the basic keyboard commands, I was wondering also if anyone knew of a good resource where I learn others? Thanks Jonathan Franks BSW Board Member National Federation of the Blind of Texas -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From veegaspa at gmail.com Fri Apr 28 04:02:17 2017 From: veegaspa at gmail.com (Vee Gaspa) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:02:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F6E59A1-48CF-433A-A0A0-F5369A56E038@gmail.com> I don't know any resources off of the top of my head, but if you want to paste an attachment in Microsoft outlook you just do control C to copy the item from your documents, dropbox, or wherever else you may have the item, and then you do control V to paste it anywhere in the message body field. Best, Vee Gaspa Live the life you want. > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:48 PM, Jonathan Franks via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Nabsters, > I am starting to transition from gmail to Microsoft Outlook. I was > wondering, what is the keystroke to add an attachment? I know some of > the basic keyboard commands, I was wondering also if anyone knew of a > good resource where I learn others? > > Thanks > > Jonathan Franks BSW > Board Member > National Federation of the Blind of Texas > > -- > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veegaspa%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Fri Apr 28 10:07:23 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:07:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501d2c007$3b97e4c0$b2c7ae40$@gmail.com> Alt n, a, f. That should do it. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Franks via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:49 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Jonathan Franks Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? Hello Nabsters, I am starting to transition from gmail to Microsoft Outlook. I was wondering, what is the keystroke to add an attachment? I know some of the basic keyboard commands, I was wondering also if anyone knew of a good resource where I learn others? Thanks Jonathan Franks BSW Board Member National Federation of the Blind of Texas -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 28 23:38:09 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:38:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d2c078$8154c2f0$83fe48d0$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Jonathan and all, I get why this is tricky; it was easier to do in Outlook Express, and there were easy keystrokes!!! It took a while for me to learn to attach files in Outlook, but I know how to do it now. Now, to answer your question... 1. Make sure you are on the file you want to attach. 2. Press Shift, F10 to go to the context menu. 3. Press N to go to the "Send to" submenu. 4. Press M; JAWS says, "Mail recipient." Press Enter. Now, you are in a new message with the file attached for you. The subject line will say, "E-mailing: [name of file."] To edit the subject line, press Alt, U int new message, and delete and edit as you want to. I hope this helps. Jen -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Franks via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:49 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Jonathan Franks Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? Hello Nabsters, I am starting to transition from gmail to Microsoft Outlook. I was wondering, what is the keystroke to add an attachment? I know some of the basic keyboard commands, I was wondering also if anyone knew of a good resource where I learn others? Thanks Jonathan Franks BSW Board Member National Federation of the Blind of Texas -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From filerime at gmail.com Sat Apr 29 01:26:53 2017 From: filerime at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RWxpZiBFbWlyIMOWa3PDvHo=?=) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:26:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] =?utf-8?q?OABS_Podcast_=E2=80=93_Episode_3/_Reading_with?= =?utf-8?q?_Voice_Dream?= Message-ID: OABS Podcast – Episode 3 Reading with Voice Dream By Elif Emir Oksuz Welcome to the third episode of the monthly podcast produced by the Ohio Association of Blind Students, where you can learn what we can share about surviving and even thriving as a blind student. In this, we hear from the president of the Ohio Association of Blind Students, who is a Ph.D. student at the University of Cincinnati about the reading application called Voice Dream. This application can be your library in your pocket. You can read your text documents, and listen your audio books. In this episode, you will hear how to switch between different voices, read your books, adjust the reading speed, and add new reading materials from Dropbox and Bookshare. So please, take a moment to enjoy hearing from, and most probably also learning from, Elif about Voice Dream application, which will be a great help with your student workload. https://soundcloud.com/engelsizerisimdernegi/oabs-podcast-3-elif From hope.paulos at gmail.com Sat Apr 29 01:30:07 2017 From: hope.paulos at gmail.com (Hope Paulos) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:30:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? In-Reply-To: <000001d2c078$8154c2f0$83fe48d0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000001d2c078$8154c2f0$83fe48d0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <78D53C79-AE7E-482C-9095-569A4D1F9068@gmail.com> An easier way to attach a file to an email message is to copy the file from wherever you save it, and then pasted into the body of the message. This will automatically attach The file for you. Hope Paulos > On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Jonathan and all, > > I get why this is tricky; it was easier to do in Outlook Express, and there > were easy keystrokes!!! It took a while for me to learn to attach files in > Outlook, but I know how to do it now. > > Now, to answer your question... > > 1. Make sure you are on the file you want to attach. > 2. Press Shift, F10 to go to the context menu. > 3. Press N to go to the "Send to" submenu. > 4. Press M; JAWS says, "Mail recipient." Press Enter. > > Now, you are in a new message with the file attached for you. The subject > line will say, "E-mailing: [name of file."] To edit the subject line, press > Alt, U int new message, and delete and edit as you want to. > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Franks > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:49 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Jonathan Franks > Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an > attachment? > > Hello Nabsters, > I am starting to transition from gmail to Microsoft Outlook. I was > wondering, what is the keystroke to add an attachment? I know some of > the basic keyboard commands, I was wondering also if anyone knew of a > good resource where I learn others? > > Thanks > > Jonathan Franks BSW > Board Member > National Federation of the Blind of Texas > > -- > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 29 03:48:16 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 23:48:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? In-Reply-To: <78D53C79-AE7E-482C-9095-569A4D1F9068@gmail.com> References: <000001d2c078$8154c2f0$83fe48d0$@sbcglobal.net> <78D53C79-AE7E-482C-9095-569A4D1F9068@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2c09b$70fd7b90$52f872b0$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Hope, Wow!!! Thank you so much for this tip! I just tried it, and it worked! Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hope Paulos via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 9:30 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Hope Paulos Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? An easier way to attach a file to an email message is to copy the file from wherever you save it, and then pasted into the body of the message. This will automatically attach The file for you. Hope Paulos > On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Jonathan and all, > > I get why this is tricky; it was easier to do in Outlook Express, and there > were easy keystrokes!!! It took a while for me to learn to attach files in > Outlook, but I know how to do it now. > > Now, to answer your question... > > 1. Make sure you are on the file you want to attach. > 2. Press Shift, F10 to go to the context menu. > 3. Press N to go to the "Send to" submenu. > 4. Press M; JAWS says, "Mail recipient." Press Enter. > > Now, you are in a new message with the file attached for you. The subject > line will say, "E-mailing: [name of file."] To edit the subject line, press > Alt, U int new message, and delete and edit as you want to. > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Franks > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:49 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Jonathan Franks > Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an > attachment? > > Hello Nabsters, > I am starting to transition from gmail to Microsoft Outlook. I was > wondering, what is the keystroke to add an attachment? I know some of > the basic keyboard commands, I was wondering also if anyone knew of a > good resource where I learn others? > > Thanks > > Jonathan Franks BSW > Board Member > National Federation of the Blind of Texas > > -- > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From jfranks at nfbtx.org Sat Apr 29 05:16:32 2017 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 00:16:32 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an attachment? In-Reply-To: <78D53C79-AE7E-482C-9095-569A4D1F9068@gmail.com> References: <000001d2c078$8154c2f0$83fe48d0$@sbcglobal.net> <78D53C79-AE7E-482C-9095-569A4D1F9068@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello all, Thank you for your assistance, I was able to get it to work. Warm regards, Jonathan Franks BSW Board Member National Federation of the Blind of Texas On 4/28/17, Hope Paulos via NABS-L wrote: > An easier way to attach a file to an email message is to copy the file from > wherever you save it, and then pasted into the body of the message. This > will automatically attach The file for you. > > Hope Paulos > >> On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Jen via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Jonathan and all, >> >> I get why this is tricky; it was easier to do in Outlook Express, and >> there >> were easy keystrokes!!! It took a while for me to learn to attach files >> in >> Outlook, but I know how to do it now. >> >> Now, to answer your question... >> >> 1. Make sure you are on the file you want to attach. >> 2. Press Shift, F10 to go to the context menu. >> 3. Press N to go to the "Send to" submenu. >> 4. Press M; JAWS says, "Mail recipient." Press Enter. >> >> Now, you are in a new message with the file attached for you. The subject >> line will say, "E-mailing: [name of file."] To edit the subject line, >> press >> Alt, U int new message, and delete and edit as you want to. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Jen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan >> Franks >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:49 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Cc: Jonathan Franks >> Subject: [nabs-l] What is the Keystroke in Microsoft Outlook to add an >> attachment? >> >> Hello Nabsters, >> I am starting to transition from gmail to Microsoft Outlook. I was >> wondering, what is the keystroke to add an attachment? I know some of >> the basic keyboard commands, I was wondering also if anyone knew of a >> good resource where I learn others? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jonathan Franks BSW >> Board Member >> National Federation of the Blind of Texas >> >> -- >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >> you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paulos%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jfranks%40nfbtx.org > -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.