From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 00:03:15 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:03:15 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Need help turning dream into reality
In-Reply-To: <8E648E30-1E59-4935-996E-629E0BEBD3C9@gmail.com>
References: <923EC179-1A80-4C59-8DA6-3892A220F68F@gmail.com>
	<7211E518-0A8D-43A6-A492-99527AD2D204@gmail.com>
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hello chicqua,
yes, you certainly can indeed open up a case in Maryland. you ugs,
amyhave the right to go wherever you wish to obtain your degree in
socil work. if you have any problems in Maryland the nfb of maryland
or chris who is from maryland can also assist you as well too! as a
matter of fact he's from maryland as well too and, I'm sure that he
can assist you in that adventure. just reach out to him or the nfb of
maryland too. also, there' the national center in Baltimore as well
too! take care and, good luck with your college career!



h

On 7/31/17, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Is there a way i can open a case with a vr counselor in Marylamd?
>
>
> Shikha.
>
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Mikaela Stevens via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shikha:
>>
>> I would make a case to your VR agency about why you need to get a masters
>> degree. They can help you pay for it.
>>
>> Also, I would choose a program which feels best to you. Sometimes it's
>> difficult to make a decision when other people are pushing you in a
>> certain direction, but ultimately you will be happier if you choose. I
>> have experience advocating for myself with VR. Feel free to reach out if
>> you have more questions or concerns.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Mikaela
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:03 AM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello federation family,
>>> My name is shikha desai, and i am a senior at Georgia State University.
>>> My major is social work. My dream is to get my master degree in social
>>> work in Marylamd. I have found out that salsberry university, morgan
>>> state, and university of Maryland are the three colleges in Marylamd
>>> which offer a MSW. The problem is that these three colleges are super
>>> expensive. Should I still apply for these schools? Or should i listen to
>>> my parents and get my msw at the same college that i am currently
>>> attending? I am not sure what to do because I just got a new vr counselor
>>> and I don't think vr will pay for grad school. My parents want me to go
>>> to grad school at the school i am currently attending so they can help
>>> me. I don't know how I will be able to pay for grad school if i do get
>>> accepted to one of the colleges in Marylamd. Sorry for the long message.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shikha.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
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From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 02:28:32 2017
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:28:32 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Need help turning dream into reality
In-Reply-To: <CAOF1yXHGLhBMsaLrc-V88O=wycjZ1sWMXhUy3doWRtQXot-92w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <923EC179-1A80-4C59-8DA6-3892A220F68F@gmail.com>
	<7211E518-0A8D-43A6-A492-99527AD2D204@gmail.com>
	<8E648E30-1E59-4935-996E-629E0BEBD3C9@gmail.com>
	<CAOF1yXHGLhBMsaLrc-V88O=wycjZ1sWMXhUy3doWRtQXot-92w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DDDDE6EF-72ED-45B9-B8EA-6D4E29A61B3D@gmail.com>

Thanks for your help. 
Thanks,


Shikha. 

> On Jul 31, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Amy Sabo <amieelsabo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hello chicqua,
> yes, you certainly can indeed open up a case in Maryland. you ugs,
> amyhave the right to go wherever you wish to obtain your degree in
> socil work. if you have any problems in Maryland the nfb of maryland
> or chris who is from maryland can also assist you as well too! as a
> matter of fact he's from maryland as well too and, I'm sure that he
> can assist you in that adventure. just reach out to him or the nfb of
> maryland too. also, there' the national center in Baltimore as well
> too! take care and, good luck with your college career!
> 
> 
> 
> h
> 
>> On 7/31/17, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Is there a way i can open a case with a vr counselor in Marylamd?
>> 
>> 
>> Shikha.
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Mikaela Stevens via NABS-L
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Shikha:
>>> 
>>> I would make a case to your VR agency about why you need to get a masters
>>> degree. They can help you pay for it.
>>> 
>>> Also, I would choose a program which feels best to you. Sometimes it's
>>> difficult to make a decision when other people are pushing you in a
>>> certain direction, but ultimately you will be happier if you choose. I
>>> have experience advocating for myself with VR. Feel free to reach out if
>>> you have more questions or concerns.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Mikaela
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:03 AM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello federation family,
>>>> My name is shikha desai, and i am a senior at Georgia State University.
>>>> My major is social work. My dream is to get my master degree in social
>>>> work in Marylamd. I have found out that salsberry university, morgan
>>>> state, and university of Maryland are the three colleges in Marylamd
>>>> which offer a MSW. The problem is that these three colleges are super
>>>> expensive. Should I still apply for these schools? Or should i listen to
>>>> my parents and get my msw at the same college that i am currently
>>>> attending? I am not sure what to do because I just got a new vr counselor
>>>> and I don't think vr will pay for grad school. My parents want me to go
>>>> to grad school at the school i am currently attending so they can help
>>>> me. I don't know how I will be able to pay for grad school if i do get
>>>> accepted to one of the colleges in Marylamd. Sorry for the long message.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Shikha.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> NABS-L:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikaelastevens%40gmail.com
>>> 
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> 
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>> 


From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 18:19:17 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:19:17 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] web site
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXH5JTD9B0v93TH=9a6KMOuTtP6-H0hK0wEgsh+N8ODz5Q@mail.gmail.com>

hello there!
I know that nabs has a new web master for the web site and, I have
tried to send him a message about the web site and, I was wondering
wwho he was and, if anyone could send me his email address that would
be great!



thanks,
amy


From bjduarte at asu.edu  Tue Aug  1 19:57:02 2017
From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:57:02 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Share your story today!
Message-ID: <FC0EFFB1-35A8-4824-A8A7-4BE418460348@asu.edu>

Greetings NABS,

I was asked to pass this awesome opportunity on to you all in case winning 2500, 5000, or 10,000 dollars interests you. Please consider applying for this great opportunity.

Website
http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265 <http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265>

Announcement:
Share your story today!

Lime Connect has launched the #IntheLimelight Video Contest, an
exciting opportunity for talented individuals to share how they are
rebranding disability through achievement.

Whether it’s as a student, intern, mid-level manager, or high-level
executive, individuals with disabilities bring a unique perspective
and diverse talents to the world, universities and the workplace each
and every day. Though there are many great examples, a lack of
visibility helps contribute to societal misconceptions and stigmas
about what it means to live and work with a disability. Help us change
the narrative!

We want to hear your story! Submit a 1–2 minute video telling us how
you live #IntheLimelight for a chance to win a $10,000, $5,000, or
$2,500 award.

Contest Date: Monday, July 17, 2017 – Sunday, August 20, 2017, @11:59 PM EST.

We’re awarding a total of $25,000 in cash prizes to the top videos,
provided by Lime Connect special advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief
Internet Evangelist, “One of the Fathers of the Internet," and the
inspiration behind this contest!

We strongly encourage you to submit a short video and take advantage
of this great opportunity. Learn more about how you can participate at
our website!

You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
however, we also encourage you to join for exclusive access to future
opportunities. Additional information is available below.

Eligibility Requirements
•	You must be an 18 or older student or professional living in the
U.S. or Canada
•	You must identify as a person who happens to have a disability*
•	You must submit an original, unpublished work
•	By participating, you grant Lime Connect full rights to use your
submissions in future marketing and promotional materials (additional
details available in the entry form).

More About #IntheLimelight
The #IntheLimelight Video Contest was inspired by Lime Connect special
advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief Internet Evangelist and “One of
the Fathers of the Internet." As a leader in the disability community,
Vint noted the serious lack of content around the experiences and
success stories of people with disabilities. Lime Connect and Vint
share the belief that sharing these stories will help to dispel
misconceptions and highlight the value that individuals with
disabilities bring to the world, universities, and the workplace and
beyond. Lime Connect launched the first video contest in July 2017
with Vint Cerf as the sponsor.

About The Lime Network
You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
however, we strongly encourage it. The Lime Network was developed to
be a career resource for high-potential university students and
professionals who happen to have disabilities. Network members receive
exclusive access to scholarships, internships and career opportunities
with our partners, one-one-coaching opportunities, professional
development resources, and so much more! Join The Lime Network.

* An individual with a visible or invisible disability is defined as
someone who has, or considers themselves to have, a long-term, or
recurring, issue that impacts one or more major activities that others
may consider to be a daily function; this definition also includes the
perception among others that a disability exists. We know that 90% of
disabilities on campus are invisible, as are the majority of those in
the workplace, and individuals with all disabilities are encouraged to
apply.

Bryan Duarte | software engineer
ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow
National Association of Blind Students | Board Member
Arizona Association of Blind Students | President

The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 21:11:27 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 15:11:27 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Share your story today!
In-Reply-To: <FC0EFFB1-35A8-4824-A8A7-4BE418460348@asu.edu>
References: <FC0EFFB1-35A8-4824-A8A7-4BE418460348@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXF7w4RoPsnvJ4pSk24fscvuN+fOBpvb=P4RFdkWf2FOsQ@mail.gmail.com>

hello bryan,
thanks for posting this announcement to the list! this sounds
awesome... I will forward this onto the perform-talk list as well too
for people who are in the performing arts division to apply for this!
this sounds awesome and, I hope that many students on this list and,
also in the federation who aren't on this list to apply and take
advantage of this! thanks again and, I will talk to you soon!




hugs,
amy

On 8/1/17, Bryan Duarte via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Greetings NABS,
>
> I was asked to pass this awesome opportunity on to you all in case winning
> 2500, 5000, or 10,000 dollars interests you. Please consider applying for
> this great opportunity.
>
> Website
> http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265
> <http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265>
>
> Announcement:
> Share your story today!
>
> Lime Connect has launched the #IntheLimelight Video Contest, an
> exciting opportunity for talented individuals to share how they are
> rebranding disability through achievement.
>
> Whether it’s as a student, intern, mid-level manager, or high-level
> executive, individuals with disabilities bring a unique perspective
> and diverse talents to the world, universities and the workplace each
> and every day. Though there are many great examples, a lack of
> visibility helps contribute to societal misconceptions and stigmas
> about what it means to live and work with a disability. Help us change
> the narrative!
>
> We want to hear your story! Submit a 1–2 minute video telling us how
> you live #IntheLimelight for a chance to win a $10,000, $5,000, or
> $2,500 award.
>
> Contest Date: Monday, July 17, 2017 – Sunday, August 20, 2017, @11:59 PM
> EST.
>
> We’re awarding a total of $25,000 in cash prizes to the top videos,
> provided by Lime Connect special advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief
> Internet Evangelist, “One of the Fathers of the Internet," and the
> inspiration behind this contest!
>
> We strongly encourage you to submit a short video and take advantage
> of this great opportunity. Learn more about how you can participate at
> our website!
>
> You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
> however, we also encourage you to join for exclusive access to future
> opportunities. Additional information is available below.
>
> Eligibility Requirements
> •	You must be an 18 or older student or professional living in the
> U.S. or Canada
> •	You must identify as a person who happens to have a disability*
> •	You must submit an original, unpublished work
> •	By participating, you grant Lime Connect full rights to use your
> submissions in future marketing and promotional materials (additional
> details available in the entry form).
>
> More About #IntheLimelight
> The #IntheLimelight Video Contest was inspired by Lime Connect special
> advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief Internet Evangelist and “One of
> the Fathers of the Internet." As a leader in the disability community,
> Vint noted the serious lack of content around the experiences and
> success stories of people with disabilities. Lime Connect and Vint
> share the belief that sharing these stories will help to dispel
> misconceptions and highlight the value that individuals with
> disabilities bring to the world, universities, and the workplace and
> beyond. Lime Connect launched the first video contest in July 2017
> with Vint Cerf as the sponsor.
>
> About The Lime Network
> You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
> however, we strongly encourage it. The Lime Network was developed to
> be a career resource for high-potential university students and
> professionals who happen to have disabilities. Network members receive
> exclusive access to scholarships, internships and career opportunities
> with our partners, one-one-coaching opportunities, professional
> development resources, and so much more! Join The Lime Network.
>
> * An individual with a visible or invisible disability is defined as
> someone who has, or considers themselves to have, a long-term, or
> recurring, issue that impacts one or more major activities that others
> may consider to be a daily function; this definition also includes the
> perception among others that a disability exists. We know that 90% of
> disabilities on campus are invisible, as are the majority of those in
> the workplace, and individuals with all disabilities are encouraged to
> apply.
>
> Bryan Duarte | software engineer
> ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
> Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow
> National Association of Blind Students | Board Member
> Arizona Association of Blind Students | President
>
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends
> who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work
> together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com
>


From dsykora29 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 00:53:52 2017
From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 20:53:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l]  accomodations for the GRE
Message-ID: <CAAdv8fp63Y=kwm2y-aYUM6_QVdZwnHddLrzUNLH6r7kcBexjMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

How exactly would I go about requesting accomodations for the GRE?
Also, what accommodations did you personally request, and were they
adequate? Obviously accommodations will be different from person to
person, but I'm just curious.

Danielle


From ropermeaghan at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 01:14:21 2017
From: ropermeaghan at gmail.com (Roper, Meaghan)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 21:14:21 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations for the GRE
In-Reply-To: <CAAdv8fp63Y=kwm2y-aYUM6_QVdZwnHddLrzUNLH6r7kcBexjMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAdv8fp63Y=kwm2y-aYUM6_QVdZwnHddLrzUNLH6r7kcBexjMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B12FEE9-9C7A-448C-862E-B9BBCA5A2197@gmail.com>

Hi Daniel,

I recently applied for accommodations for the GRE exam back in June. It's important that you know that it takes approximately six weeks for Pearson to respond regarding your accommodations.

You can pretty much just Google requesting accommodations for the GRE exam, and follow the first link that you find on Google. The documentation is really simple, and you need one of the sections filled out by your DSS person at your college or university.

I requested 50% more time which is standard for persons with visual impairments, as well as having the test administered on a desktop rather than in print. There is a list of available accommodations for persons with visual impairments available on the website. Unfortunately I believe these are listed in a PDF document, so you will have to run it through OCR or something to be able to read the document. It's about 25 pages long, and if I remember correctly the accommodations request form is located on pages 14 through 22 of the PDF document.

I hope that helps.

Best,

Meaghan

Meaghan Roper
Wheelock college | Class of 2018

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> How exactly would I go about requesting accomodations for the GRE?
> Also, what accommodations did you personally request, and were they
> adequate? Obviously accommodations will be different from person to
> person, but I'm just curious.
> 
> Danielle
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 02:11:38 2017
From: ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com (Ayoub Zurikat)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 21:11:38 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations for the GRE
In-Reply-To: <3B12FEE9-9C7A-448C-862E-B9BBCA5A2197@gmail.com>
References: <CAAdv8fp63Y=kwm2y-aYUM6_QVdZwnHddLrzUNLH6r7kcBexjMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3B12FEE9-9C7A-448C-862E-B9BBCA5A2197@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD9C5C16-99D8-4BD3-82BC-96071AE49C48@gmail.com>

https://www.ets.org/disabilities/test_takers/request_accommodations/
Hi, accommodations will vary from one person to another. If you do not read braille, their are a number of good options. Please check the link that I pasted in the email.
Blessings
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Roper, Meaghan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> I recently applied for accommodations for the GRE exam back in June. It's important that you know that it takes approximately six weeks for Pearson to respond regarding your accommodations.
> 
> You can pretty much just Google requesting accommodations for the GRE exam, and follow the first link that you find on Google. The documentation is really simple, and you need one of the sections filled out by your DSS person at your college or university.
> 
> I requested 50% more time which is standard for persons with visual impairments, as well as having the test administered on a desktop rather than in print. There is a list of available accommodations for persons with visual impairments available on the website. Unfortunately I believe these are listed in a PDF document, so you will have to run it through OCR or something to be able to read the document. It's about 25 pages long, and if I remember correctly the accommodations request form is located on pages 14 through 22 of the PDF document.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Meaghan
> 
> Meaghan Roper
> Wheelock college | Class of 2018
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> How exactly would I go about requesting accomodations for the GRE?
>> Also, what accommodations did you personally request, and were they
>> adequate? Obviously accommodations will be different from person to
>> person, but I'm just curious.
>> 
>> Danielle
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ropermeaghan%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From misokwak12 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 02:17:30 2017
From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 19:17:30 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations for the GRE
In-Reply-To: <DD9C5C16-99D8-4BD3-82BC-96071AE49C48@gmail.com>
References: <CAAdv8fp63Y=kwm2y-aYUM6_QVdZwnHddLrzUNLH6r7kcBexjMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3B12FEE9-9C7A-448C-862E-B9BBCA5A2197@gmail.com>
	<DD9C5C16-99D8-4BD3-82BC-96071AE49C48@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMe9x_H0TmancgVTXgoeAoucGFFJQ_rEeJqzE1ivUBwPy83A9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I took the GRE in December 2016.
As a Braille reader, I took the exam in Braille. They allowed me to
use notepad function on my laptop to write the essay. They provided me
with a talking calculator, which was the most difficult part
personally, because I was not used to the calculator and had to learn
the calculator while trying to solve the quantitative section.

On 8/1/17, Ayoub Zurikat via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> https://www.ets.org/disabilities/test_takers/request_accommodations/
> Hi, accommodations will vary from one person to another. If you do not read
> braille, their are a number of good options. Please check the link that I
> pasted in the email.
> Blessings
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Roper, Meaghan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> I recently applied for accommodations for the GRE exam back in June. It's
>> important that you know that it takes approximately six weeks for Pearson
>> to respond regarding your accommodations.
>>
>> You can pretty much just Google requesting accommodations for the GRE
>> exam, and follow the first link that you find on Google. The documentation
>> is really simple, and you need one of the sections filled out by your DSS
>> person at your college or university.
>>
>> I requested 50% more time which is standard for persons with visual
>> impairments, as well as having the test administered on a desktop rather
>> than in print. There is a list of available accommodations for persons
>> with visual impairments available on the website. Unfortunately I believe
>> these are listed in a PDF document, so you will have to run it through OCR
>> or something to be able to read the document. It's about 25 pages long,
>> and if I remember correctly the accommodations request form is located on
>> pages 14 through 22 of the PDF document.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Meaghan
>>
>> Meaghan Roper
>> Wheelock college | Class of 2018
>>
>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> How exactly would I go about requesting accomodations for the GRE?
>>> Also, what accommodations did you personally request, and were they
>>> adequate? Obviously accommodations will be different from person to
>>> person, but I'm just curious.
>>>
>>> Danielle
>>>
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University of California, Los Angeles | 2017
Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor
(909) 660-1897


From misokwak12 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 02:18:29 2017
From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 19:18:29 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations for the GRE
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9x_H0TmancgVTXgoeAoucGFFJQ_rEeJqzE1ivUBwPy83A9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAdv8fp63Y=kwm2y-aYUM6_QVdZwnHddLrzUNLH6r7kcBexjMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3B12FEE9-9C7A-448C-862E-B9BBCA5A2197@gmail.com>
	<DD9C5C16-99D8-4BD3-82BC-96071AE49C48@gmail.com>
	<CAMe9x_H0TmancgVTXgoeAoucGFFJQ_rEeJqzE1ivUBwPy83A9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMe9x_FQib9D5uNNiXXOqK9N+1U=2RTedyeh0+Fr_=ODDv=p_Q@mail.gmail.com>

P.S: I had 100% extended time, which from my understanding can be
generally granted to blind students.
[I apologize that my message got cut off.]

Best of luck!!

On 8/1/17, Miso Kwak <misokwak12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I took the GRE in December 2016.
> As a Braille reader, I took the exam in Braille. They allowed me to
> use notepad function on my laptop to write the essay. They provided me
> with a talking calculator, which was the most difficult part
> personally, because I was not used to the calculator and had to learn
> the calculator while trying to solve the quantitative section.
>
> On 8/1/17, Ayoub Zurikat via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> https://www.ets.org/disabilities/test_takers/request_accommodations/
>> Hi, accommodations will vary from one person to another. If you do not
>> read
>> braille, their are a number of good options. Please check the link that I
>> pasted in the email.
>> Blessings
>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Roper, Meaghan via NABS-L
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> I recently applied for accommodations for the GRE exam back in June.
>>> It's
>>> important that you know that it takes approximately six weeks for
>>> Pearson
>>> to respond regarding your accommodations.
>>>
>>> You can pretty much just Google requesting accommodations for the GRE
>>> exam, and follow the first link that you find on Google. The
>>> documentation
>>> is really simple, and you need one of the sections filled out by your
>>> DSS
>>> person at your college or university.
>>>
>>> I requested 50% more time which is standard for persons with visual
>>> impairments, as well as having the test administered on a desktop rather
>>> than in print. There is a list of available accommodations for persons
>>> with visual impairments available on the website. Unfortunately I
>>> believe
>>> these are listed in a PDF document, so you will have to run it through
>>> OCR
>>> or something to be able to read the document. It's about 25 pages long,
>>> and if I remember correctly the accommodations request form is located
>>> on
>>> pages 14 through 22 of the PDF document.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Meaghan
>>>
>>> Meaghan Roper
>>> Wheelock college | Class of 2018
>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> How exactly would I go about requesting accomodations for the GRE?
>>>> Also, what accommodations did you personally request, and were they
>>>> adequate? Obviously accommodations will be different from person to
>>>> person, but I'm just curious.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> NABS-L:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ropermeaghan%40gmail.com
>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Miso Kwak
> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017
> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor
> (909) 660-1897
>


-- 
Miso Kwak
University of California, Los Angeles | 2017
Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor
(909) 660-1897


From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 02:22:20 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 22:22:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations for the GRE
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9x_FQib9D5uNNiXXOqK9N+1U=2RTedyeh0+Fr_=ODDv=p_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAdv8fp63Y=kwm2y-aYUM6_QVdZwnHddLrzUNLH6r7kcBexjMQ@mail.gmail.com>	<3B12FEE9-9C7A-448C-862E-B9BBCA5A2197@gmail.com>	<DD9C5C16-99D8-4BD3-82BC-96071AE49C48@gmail.com>	<CAMe9x_H0TmancgVTXgoeAoucGFFJQ_rEeJqzE1ivUBwPy83A9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMe9x_FQib9D5uNNiXXOqK9N+1U=2RTedyeh0+Fr_=ODDv=p_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <033401d30b36$2b9ceb40$82d6c1c0$@gmail.com>

I had that also.  It took me between 5 to 6 hours because someone was
reading it, or did I have ti in braille.  I think I had a bit of bouth.
 Justin

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Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 10:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations for the GRE

P.S: I had 100% extended time, which from my understanding can be generally
granted to blind students.
[I apologize that my message got cut off.]

Best of luck!!

On 8/1/17, Miso Kwak <misokwak12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I took the GRE in December 2016.
> As a Braille reader, I took the exam in Braille. They allowed me to 
> use notepad function on my laptop to write the essay. They provided me 
> with a talking calculator, which was the most difficult part 
> personally, because I was not used to the calculator and had to learn 
> the calculator while trying to solve the quantitative section.
>
> On 8/1/17, Ayoub Zurikat via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> https://www.ets.org/disabilities/test_takers/request_accommodations/
>> Hi, accommodations will vary from one person to another. If you do 
>> not read braille, their are a number of good options. Please check 
>> the link that I pasted in the email.
>> Blessings
>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Roper, Meaghan via NABS-L 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> I recently applied for accommodations for the GRE exam back in June.
>>> It's
>>> important that you know that it takes approximately six weeks for 
>>> Pearson to respond regarding your accommodations.
>>>
>>> You can pretty much just Google requesting accommodations for the 
>>> GRE exam, and follow the first link that you find on Google. The 
>>> documentation is really simple, and you need one of the sections 
>>> filled out by your DSS person at your college or university.
>>>
>>> I requested 50% more time which is standard for persons with visual 
>>> impairments, as well as having the test administered on a desktop 
>>> rather than in print. There is a list of available accommodations 
>>> for persons with visual impairments available on the website. 
>>> Unfortunately I believe these are listed in a PDF document, so you 
>>> will have to run it through OCR or something to be able to read the 
>>> document. It's about 25 pages long, and if I remember correctly the 
>>> accommodations request form is located on pages 14 through 22 of the 
>>> PDF document.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Meaghan
>>>
>>> Meaghan Roper
>>> Wheelock college | Class of 2018
>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L 
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> How exactly would I go about requesting accomodations for the GRE?
>>>> Also, what accommodations did you personally request, and were they 
>>>> adequate? Obviously accommodations will be different from person to 
>>>> person, but I'm just curious.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> NABS-L:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ropermeaghan%40
>>>> gmail.com
>>>
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>>> for
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>>> b%40gmail.com
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>> l.com
>>
>
>
> --
> Miso Kwak
> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | 
> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor
> (909) 660-1897
>


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University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education
Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor
(909) 660-1897

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From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 14:44:58 2017
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 10:44:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative advocacy committee meeting
Message-ID: <A17399D4-F824-4E5A-8125-6C5290369637@gmail.com>

Dear Students,
We have waited much too long to have equality in the classroom and receive the materials we require to succeed in our academic careers. The responsibility falls upon us to aid in the struggle for our rights. Join us next Tuesday, August 15th, 2017 at 9 PM Eastern to learn how you may play a role in this struggle.
The call in number is: (712) 770-5197
And the access code is: 265669 
Best Wishes,
     Syed Rizvi 



From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 15:04:52 2017
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:04:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative advocacy committee meeting date correction
Message-ID: <D1F81B50-1D4B-4D1C-8F7F-DF62B8368459@gmail.com>

The second Tuesday of the month is August 8.
Our meeting will be August 8th, 9PM Eastern 


From amyralbin at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 22:17:18 2017
From: amyralbin at gmail.com (Amy Albin)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 18:17:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] want to major in information technology
Message-ID: <CAC5mtjFFHosR7hXE3U333ROH-C8fYQRH=LtpaRB37CxRYphHKA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, guys.  I just graduated high school and plan to start college in
January as an IT major.  The problem is, in terms of accessibility, I
don't even know what to ask for.  I'm completely blind and use JAWS.
Is anyone here an IT person who can serve as a mentor?  I really have
no knowledge of it, or what makes a program accessible with JAWS.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Amy


From annis1 at live.marshall.edu  Thu Aug  3 23:50:44 2017
From: annis1 at live.marshall.edu (Annis, Tara)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 23:50:44 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] number pertaining to braille paper
Message-ID: <CY4PR01MB2549E2896136468C2AF6EC52D6B10@CY4PR01MB2549.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello,

Does anyone know what the different numbers pertaining to braille embossing paper mean?  For example, the ViewPlus EmBraille I'm using requires around a #60, but I was not sure  how important this was when purchasing.  Yet, I wanted to find the least expensive paper, which was not from ViewPlus, but it is around #90. So, my question: is this a big difference?  Does the larger the number mean the thicker the paper or vice versa?

Thanks,
tara


Tara Annis
Phone: (304) 942-1119
E-mail: annis1 at live.marshall.edu<mailto:annis1 at live.marshall.edu>
Second E-mail: tannisdanielle at gmail.com<mailto:tannisdanielle at gmail.com>




From theweird1 at mediacombb.net  Fri Aug  4 01:19:49 2017
From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 20:19:49 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] number pertaining to braille paper
In-Reply-To: dPuSdsDrmpWQddPuUdRcks
References: dPuSdsDrmpWQddPuUdRcks
Message-ID: <000601d30cbf$c4f5db50$4ee191f0$@mediacombb.net>

The number usually refers to the weight of the paper.  60 is rather light
for braille paper.  90-100 is what I usually use.  So yes.  The higher the
numbder, the heavier the paper.  

Loren 



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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:51 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Annis, Tara
Subject: [nabs-l] number pertaining to braille paper

Hello,

Does anyone know what the different numbers pertaining to braille embossing
paper mean?  For example, the ViewPlus EmBraille I'm using requires around a
#60, but I was not sure  how important this was when purchasing.  Yet, I
wanted to find the least expensive paper, which was not from ViewPlus, but
it is around #90. So, my question: is this a big difference?  Does the
larger the number mean the thicker the paper or vice versa?

Thanks,
tara


Tara Annis
Phone: (304) 942-1119
E-mail: annis1 at live.marshall.edu<mailto:annis1 at live.marshall.edu>
Second E-mail: tannisdanielle at gmail.com<mailto:tannisdanielle at gmail.com>



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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 01:41:22 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 21:41:22 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] want to major in information technology
In-Reply-To: <CAC5mtjFFHosR7hXE3U333ROH-C8fYQRH=LtpaRB37CxRYphHKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC5mtjFFHosR7hXE3U333ROH-C8fYQRH=LtpaRB37CxRYphHKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01d30cc2$c773a530$565aef90$@gmail.com>

Yes.  You'd want to call your disability office, on the campus you plan to
attend and get you're a ccommodations set up.
 We can talk off list, or on the phone if you'd like sometime.
 Justin

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Cc: Amy Albin <amyralbin at gmail.com>
Subject: [nabs-l] want to major in information technology

Hi, guys.  I just graduated high school and plan to start college in January
as an IT major.  The problem is, in terms of accessibility, I don't even
know what to ask for.  I'm completely blind and use JAWS.
Is anyone here an IT person who can serve as a mentor?  I really have no
knowledge of it, or what makes a program accessible with JAWS.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Amy

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From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 02:46:31 2017
From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 22:46:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] want to major in information technology
In-Reply-To: <000e01d30cc2$c773a530$565aef90$@gmail.com>
References: <CAC5mtjFFHosR7hXE3U333ROH-C8fYQRH=LtpaRB37CxRYphHKA@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01d30cc2$c773a530$565aef90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <318AE631-ACE4-44AC-AD98-E67F4EF24918@gmail.com>

Hi Amy,
Congratulations on getting your diploma! You have so many exciting times ahead.

If you're interested in IT, I suggest you take a look at the Cisco Academy for the Visually Impaired, CAVI. They're based out of Australia but run online courses for students with visual impairments and blindness, including an introduction to IT. Their website is
http://www.cavitraining.com/

The instructors are blind themselves and use JAWS and NVDA. The courses are paid, but the fees are reasonable for the detailed instruction and one-on-one coaching you get.

Talking to the DSO at your school is helpful, but they may not know what you need, as it's unlikely they've had a JAWS user in your program of choice before. So writing to this list and consulting the CAVI people are great places to start.

In the meantime, you may also wish to contact your potential course instructors to learn what tools and programming languages they teach. That will help you to narrow down the questions you need answered in regards to accessibility. You can get an idea of what you need and want to take by looking at your school's course calendar. You can use it to find the contact details of each course's instructor or the details for the administrative professional who can give you this information as soon as it becomes available.

I know this is a lot, but I hope it helps you somewhat. Please let the list know how best we can support you.

Take care,
Sarah



On Aug 3, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Yes.  You'd want to call your disability office, on the campus you plan to
attend and get you're a ccommodations set up.
We can talk off list, or on the phone if you'd like sometime.
Justin

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Cc: Amy Albin <amyralbin at gmail.com>
Subject: [nabs-l] want to major in information technology

Hi, guys.  I just graduated high school and plan to start college in January
as an IT major.  The problem is, in terms of accessibility, I don't even
know what to ask for.  I'm completely blind and use JAWS.
Is anyone here an IT person who can serve as a mentor?  I really have no
knowledge of it, or what makes a program accessible with JAWS.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Amy

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From rloew at ETS.ORG  Fri Aug  4 03:49:03 2017
From: rloew at ETS.ORG (Loew, Ruth C)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 03:49:03 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] GRE accommodations requests
Message-ID: <BN6PR07MB28829739869DF2D2789C8FD8AFB60@BN6PR07MB2882.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hi - I saw the recent thread about GRE accommodations.  Just a reminder - I'm with the area of ETS that handles accommodations policies for the GRE and other postsecondary tests, I attend many NFB and NABS events, and I lurk on this list.  If Danielle, or others, have questions about accommodations or practice materials for the GRE, TOEFL, Praxis, GACE, TExES, or HiSET tests, please feel free to contact me, on- or off-list - rloew at ets.org<mailto:rloew at ets.org>.  Actually, I'll be on vacation next week, so if you have anything you'd like answered right away, feel free to contact my colleagues, Morgan Murray (mmurray001 at ets.org<mailto:mmurray001 at ets.org>) and Nora Pollard (npollard at ets.org<mailto:npollard at ets.org>).

Ruth C. Loew, Ph.D.
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 07:44:47 2017
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:14:47 +0530
Subject: [nabs-l] Dealing with Unreasonable Parents
Message-ID: <CADFycPZaX2NPEcqzv13_YvdQWJTv5THd51jRP15W8ZV1hXo07g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well.
At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have
anything to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it
if the aim of the conversation could be to understand this phenomenon
in general terms as opposed to focusing too much on my own situation.

While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various
stakeholders, such as employers, academic institutions and others
about the capabilities of the disabled, few focus on the
discrimination that the disabled face in their own homes due to the
view that their own family has about their capabilities or potential.
More specifically, if one has a parent who is unwilling to learn from
the experiences of other blind people and give their disabled child
the freedom that we all deserve, to what extent should one follow what
such a parent says?
Further, while safety is doubtless important, if the disabled person
has the requisite maturity to ascertain if they will be safe in a
given environment, should they act as per their own assessment or
follow what their parent is saying, in the fear of alienating them?
I think there are many emotional forces at play in a family setting
that may not be involved in other settings. For instance, one often
hears of parents emotionally blackmailing their children into acting
the way they want without recognizing that this may not be in the
child's best interest.
Finally, what makes the situation worse is the fact that the external
world [friends and wellwishers] is also often apprehensive to
interfere in these matters on behalf of the disabled person on the
ground that this is an internal family matter, so that makes it
significantly harder for the disabled person to fully assert
himself/herself.

If any of you have dealt with the above, I'd be curious to know what
you think about these issues.
I am mindful of the fact that not many people would be open to
discussing this on a public forum, so please feel free to mail me
off-list about this. Further, not many may see this as a problem,
given how  accustomed they are to succumbing to their parents' wishes,
no matter how uninformed and inappropriate those wishes may be.

Best,
Rahul


From hope.paulos at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 14:07:40 2017
From: hope.paulos at gmail.com (Hope Paulos)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 10:07:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship deadlimes for 2018
Message-ID: <96C0FFE9-DE22-4274-9082-9B96053E97AC@gmail.com>

Hi all. Does anyone know when the deadline for NFB scholarships for 2018 school year?
Thanks. 

Hope Paulos

From veegaspa at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 14:31:04 2017
From: veegaspa at gmail.com (Vee Gaspa)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 10:31:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship deadlimes for 2018
In-Reply-To: <96C0FFE9-DE22-4274-9082-9B96053E97AC@gmail.com>
References: <96C0FFE9-DE22-4274-9082-9B96053E97AC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CB7C93B0-4845-4ECD-9E54-FD00B1C45C35@gmail.com>

Every year the scholarship applications open on November 1 and applications are excepted until March 31. The applications that will be due on March 31 of 2018 will be awarding the scholarships in the summer of 2018, so that money would be available for the 2018/2019 school year.

Vee Gaspa
New Jersey Association of Blind Students, President 
Intern, National Federation of the Blind
Phone, 410-659-9314 ext-2525  

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Hope Paulos via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all. Does anyone know when the deadline for NFB scholarships for 2018 school year?
> Thanks. 
> 
> Hope Paulos
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  4 14:18:08 2017
From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:18:08 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship deadlimes for 2018
In-Reply-To: <96C0FFE9-DE22-4274-9082-9B96053E97AC@gmail.com>
References: <96C0FFE9-DE22-4274-9082-9B96053E97AC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CY1PR1001MB11640138584FA9DEB349771DE4B60@CY1PR1001MB1164.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

The application will close March 31, 2018. 

Chelsea Peahl

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Hope Paulos via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all. Does anyone know when the deadline for NFB scholarships for 2018 school year?
> Thanks. 
> 
> Hope Paulos
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com


From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 16:54:27 2017
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:54:27 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Dealing with Unreasonable Parents
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPZaX2NPEcqzv13_YvdQWJTv5THd51jRP15W8ZV1hXo07g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPZaX2NPEcqzv13_YvdQWJTv5THd51jRP15W8ZV1hXo07g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CB4763A9-5109-4AD7-A3F1-EF7854909F81@gmail.com>

I have gone through this and will continue to live with an indian family who do not believe in me. I became blind at 17. I try my best to be positive, and get help from friends and counselors at school. I don't listen to my parents if i am going to be safe like at nfb events. Just make sure you are safe, and continue living your life. Do not please your parents because they will never be able to make anyone happy. Focus on making your self happy. I hated living with my parents when i was taking classes at community school. I hated it. I talked with my vr counselor and transferred to Georgia state and i love living on campuss. I am now currently trying to move to Marylamd to get my master. I do not care if my parents don't approve. It is not easy but you should live your life happily.
Thanks,


Shikha. 

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Rahul Bajaj via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well.
> At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have
> anything to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it
> if the aim of the conversation could be to understand this phenomenon
> in general terms as opposed to focusing too much on my own situation.
> 
> While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various
> stakeholders, such as employers, academic institutions and others
> about the capabilities of the disabled, few focus on the
> discrimination that the disabled face in their own homes due to the
> view that their own family has about their capabilities or potential.
> More specifically, if one has a parent who is unwilling to learn from
> the experiences of other blind people and give their disabled child
> the freedom that we all deserve, to what extent should one follow what
> such a parent says?
> Further, while safety is doubtless important, if the disabled person
> has the requisite maturity to ascertain if they will be safe in a
> given environment, should they act as per their own assessment or
> follow what their parent is saying, in the fear of alienating them?
> I think there are many emotional forces at play in a family setting
> that may not be involved in other settings. For instance, one often
> hears of parents emotionally blackmailing their children into acting
> the way they want without recognizing that this may not be in the
> child's best interest.
> Finally, what makes the situation worse is the fact that the external
> world [friends and wellwishers] is also often apprehensive to
> interfere in these matters on behalf of the disabled person on the
> ground that this is an internal family matter, so that makes it
> significantly harder for the disabled person to fully assert
> himself/herself.
> 
> If any of you have dealt with the above, I'd be curious to know what
> you think about these issues.
> I am mindful of the fact that not many people would be open to
> discussing this on a public forum, so please feel free to mail me
> off-list about this. Further, not many may see this as a problem,
> given how  accustomed they are to succumbing to their parents' wishes,
> no matter how uninformed and inappropriate those wishes may be.
> 
> Best,
> Rahul
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com


From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 05:11:58 2017
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 10:41:58 +0530
Subject: [nabs-l] Dealing with Unreasonable Parents
In-Reply-To: <CB4763A9-5109-4AD7-A3F1-EF7854909F81@gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPZaX2NPEcqzv13_YvdQWJTv5THd51jRP15W8ZV1hXo07g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CB4763A9-5109-4AD7-A3F1-EF7854909F81@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADFycPbeTFwMKi0ExtVS6PLWh76yCm6e823_n3WQvJ1fdcrbpg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Shikha.
Coincidentally, I am Indian too, as you may have surmised from my
name. I am wondering if our culture, in which parents tend to be
over-protective, has a role to play here.
I agree with your advice though.

Best,
Rahul



On 04/08/2017, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have gone through this and will continue to live with an indian family who
> do not believe in me. I became blind at 17. I try my best to be positive,
> and get help from friends and counselors at school. I don't listen to my
> parents if i am going to be safe like at nfb events. Just make sure you are
> safe, and continue living your life. Do not please your parents because they
> will never be able to make anyone happy. Focus on making your self happy. I
> hated living with my parents when i was taking classes at community school.
> I hated it. I talked with my vr counselor and transferred to Georgia state
> and i love living on campuss. I am now currently trying to move to Marylamd
> to get my master. I do not care if my parents don't approve. It is not easy
> but you should live your life happily.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Shikha.
>
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Rahul Bajaj via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I hope this message finds you well.
>> At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have
>> anything to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it
>> if the aim of the conversation could be to understand this phenomenon
>> in general terms as opposed to focusing too much on my own situation.
>>
>> While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various
>> stakeholders, such as employers, academic institutions and others
>> about the capabilities of the disabled, few focus on the
>> discrimination that the disabled face in their own homes due to the
>> view that their own family has about their capabilities or potential.
>> More specifically, if one has a parent who is unwilling to learn from
>> the experiences of other blind people and give their disabled child
>> the freedom that we all deserve, to what extent should one follow what
>> such a parent says?
>> Further, while safety is doubtless important, if the disabled person
>> has the requisite maturity to ascertain if they will be safe in a
>> given environment, should they act as per their own assessment or
>> follow what their parent is saying, in the fear of alienating them?
>> I think there are many emotional forces at play in a family setting
>> that may not be involved in other settings. For instance, one often
>> hears of parents emotionally blackmailing their children into acting
>> the way they want without recognizing that this may not be in the
>> child's best interest.
>> Finally, what makes the situation worse is the fact that the external
>> world [friends and wellwishers] is also often apprehensive to
>> interfere in these matters on behalf of the disabled person on the
>> ground that this is an internal family matter, so that makes it
>> significantly harder for the disabled person to fully assert
>> himself/herself.
>>
>> If any of you have dealt with the above, I'd be curious to know what
>> you think about these issues.
>> I am mindful of the fact that not many people would be open to
>> discussing this on a public forum, so please feel free to mail me
>> off-list about this. Further, not many may see this as a problem,
>> given how  accustomed they are to succumbing to their parents' wishes,
>> no matter how uninformed and inappropriate those wishes may be.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
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>


From carlymih at comcast.net  Sat Aug  5 07:08:53 2017
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 00:08:53 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Dealing with Unreasonable Parents
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPZaX2NPEcqzv13_YvdQWJTv5THd51jRP15W8ZV1hXo07g@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CADFycPZaX2NPEcqzv13_YvdQWJTv5THd51jRP15W8ZV1hXo07g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.318.1772982285.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Evening, Rahl,
         What others say, particularly those whom are not livin withg 
ocular blindness ought not to impose the way in which they understand 
the handicapped person'sexperience, that is, the handicapped person 
ought to be granted freedom to understand and negociate his own 
space, without the small-minded signing off of  An outsider.
Car4/2017, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I hope this message finds you well.
>At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have
>anything to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it
>if the aim of the conversation could be to understand this phenomenon
>in general terms as opposed to focusing too much on my own situation.
>
>While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various
>stakeholders, such as employers, academic institutions and others
>about the capabilities of the disabled, few focus on the
>discrimination that the disabled face in their own homes due to the
>view that their own family has about their capabilities or potential.
>More specifically, if one has a parent who is unwilling to learn from
>the experiences of other blind people and give their disabled child
>the freedom that we all deserve, to what extent should one follow what
>such a parent says?
>Further, while safety is doubtless important, if the disabled person
>has the requisite maturity to ascertain if they will be safe in a
>given environment, should they act as per their own assessment or
>follow what their parent is saying, in the fear of alienating them?
>I think there are many emotional forces at play in a family setting
>that may not be involved in other settings. For instance, one often
>hears of parents emotionally blackmailing their children into acting
>the way they want without recognizing that this may not be in the
>child's best interest.
>Finally, what makes the situation worse is the fact that the external
>world [friends and wellwishers] is also often apprehensive to
>interfere in these matters on behalf of the disabled person on the
>ground that this is an internal family matter, so that makes it
>significantly harder for the disabled person to fully assert
>himself/herself.
>
>If any of you have dealt with the above, I'd be curious to know what
>you think about these issues.
>I am mindful of the fact that not many people would be open to
>discussing this on a public forum, so please feel free to mail me
>off-list about this. Further, not many may see this as a problem,
>given how  accustomed they are to succumbing to their parents' wishes,
>no matter how uninformed and inappropriate those wishes may be.
>
>Best,
>Rahul
>
>_______________________________________________
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>NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net




From emitchell927 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 09:10:02 2017
From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 11:10:02 +0200
Subject: [nabs-l] Guide canes
Message-ID: <3D8CC098-9600-4B68-B2E9-3D0E21628837@gmail.com>


Hey everyone 

Where do you get your canes?
I like extra long canes thhat are foldable with a roller tip.
Thank you so much 
Emma
Sent from my iPad


From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 19:18:14 2017
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:18:14 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Advocacy Committee Call
Message-ID: <136790CD-313B-462E-9D83-A32B1C8E5F07@gmail.com>

Dear Students,
To change laws is to change lives forever. If you want to assist us in our legislative efforts or just want to learn more, join us this tuesday at 9PM Eastern. 
The call in number is (712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669.
Best,
     Syed Rizvi 

From luke.schwinck at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  7 05:48:06 2017
From: luke.schwinck at hotmail.com (luke schwinck)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 05:48:06 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] The first ever NABS event planning committee meeting
Message-ID: <CY4PR2201MB10314E6E33A2D03AD877AE18F6B50@CY4PR2201MB1031.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Hello fellow students,

This coming Thursday, August 10th is a very important and exciting day!  At 9pm eastern the brand new NABS event planning committee will have its first meeting. Together we will share and develop innovative ideas to push the envelope of events hosted by blind students. The number to call is 712-770-5196 and the pin is 265669. If you have any questions before then please feel free to ask. Tata for now!

Best regards,
Luke A. Schwinck
Chair | NABS Event Planning Committee 

Sent from my iPhone

From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 02:54:24 2017
From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 16:54:24 -1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Fundraising Committee
Message-ID: <52CB93FB-AE39-438E-B09E-A87C1DE73C4B@gmail.com>

Students,
August is here, which means the grind of classes is once again near.  With that also comes the hustle and bustle of the NABS Fundraising Committee.  This committee helps fund everything from our Washington Seminar funding program, regional seminars, and other initiatives  benefiting blind students.
Please join us this Monday, August 14 at 9PM Eastern 
 dial(712) 770-5197  the access code is 265669

Let's keep up the momentum! 
     

Shannon KS Cantan

Board Member| National Association of Blind Students

From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 12:13:59 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:13:59 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Dealing with Unreasonable Parents
In-Reply-To: <CB4763A9-5109-4AD7-A3F1-EF7854909F81@gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPZaX2NPEcqzv13_YvdQWJTv5THd51jRP15W8ZV1hXo07g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CB4763A9-5109-4AD7-A3F1-EF7854909F81@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39CBA18A-5E17-4B14-8C34-34054AB80015@gmail.com>

 through it I am so sorry that you have to go 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have gone through this and will continue to live with an indian family who do not believe in me. I became blind at 17. I try my best to be positive, and get help from friends and counselors at school. I don't listen to my parents if i am going to be safe like at nfb events. Just make sure you are safe, and continue living your life. Do not please your parents because they will never be able to make anyone happy. Focus on making your self happy. I hated living with my parents when i was taking classes at community school. I hated it. I talked with my vr counselor and transferred to Georgia state and i love living on campuss. I am now currently trying to move to Marylamd to get my master. I do not care if my parents don't approve. It is not easy but you should live your life happily.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Shikha. 
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Rahul Bajaj via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I hope this message finds you well.
>> At the outset, let me clarify that this question may or may not have
>> anything to do with my own personal experiences, so I'd appreciate it
>> if the aim of the conversation could be to understand this phenomenon
>> in general terms as opposed to focusing too much on my own situation.
>> 
>> While a lot of us focus on the importance of sensitizing various
>> stakeholders, such as employers, academic institutions and others
>> about the capabilities of the disabled, few focus on the
>> discrimination that the disabled face in their own homes due to the
>> view that their own family has about their capabilities or potential.
>> More specifically, if one has a parent who is unwilling to learn from
>> the experiences of other blind people and give their disabled child
>> the freedom that we all deserve, to what extent should one follow what
>> such a parent says?
>> Further, while safety is doubtless important, if the disabled person
>> has the requisite maturity to ascertain if they will be safe in a
>> given environment, should they act as per their own assessment or
>> follow what their parent is saying, in the fear of alienating them?
>> I think there are many emotional forces at play in a family setting
>> that may not be involved in other settings. For instance, one often
>> hears of parents emotionally blackmailing their children into acting
>> the way they want without recognizing that this may not be in the
>> child's best interest.
>> Finally, what makes the situation worse is the fact that the external
>> world [friends and wellwishers] is also often apprehensive to
>> interfere in these matters on behalf of the disabled person on the
>> ground that this is an internal family matter, so that makes it
>> significantly harder for the disabled person to fully assert
>> himself/herself.
>> 
>> If any of you have dealt with the above, I'd be curious to know what
>> you think about these issues.
>> I am mindful of the fact that not many people would be open to
>> discussing this on a public forum, so please feel free to mail me
>> off-list about this. Further, not many may see this as a problem,
>> given how  accustomed they are to succumbing to their parents' wishes,
>> no matter how uninformed and inappropriate those wishes may be.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From violingirl30794 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 16:43:54 2017
From: violingirl30794 at gmail.com (Abby Bolling)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:43:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Open book is being very strange.
Message-ID: <d7f64366-e4d5-c447-c302-cdefb2a8bf1c@gmail.com>

Hi all!


Well, I've been sent some important PDF files, which is ok because I 
have Open Book, right?


Wrong!


Open Book keeps, uninstalling itself, from my computer. Don't ask me how 
because I have absolutely no idea.

Just now, I had to run the installation wizard to "repair" the program...

Anyone have any issues of this nature?

-- 
Thanks,
Abby

Abigail M. Bolling
Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
Phone: (513) 512-3456
Email: bolling.8 at wright.edu
Abilities United: Secretary
Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users, a chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio: Secretary
"keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond)
"Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like no one is listening, and live like it's Heaven on earth." (William Purkey)
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
  



From luke.schwinck at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  9 17:03:36 2017
From: luke.schwinck at hotmail.com (luke schwinck)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:03:36 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] event planning committee
Message-ID: <CY4PR2201MB103163F23985559B0C7256DFF68B0@CY4PR2201MB1031.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Hey Y'all,


I know all of you are probably as excited as I am for the first ever National Association of Blind Students Event Planning Committee meeting.  I also know that in the midst of our excited frenzy we might have forgotten the time and date of the meeting.  There is no need to worry because I am writing to remind you that the meeting is tomorrow August 10th at 9pm eastern.  The number to call in is (712) 770-5197 and the pin is 265669. We have a lot of things to start working on so if you want to be involved please do call in a few minutes early as the meeting will begin promptly at 9pm eastern.  I'm sure you all have new innovative and imaginative ideas and the co-chairs and I simply cannot wait to hear about them and help develop and transform them from ideas into meaningful events.  If you have any questions before or after the meeting please feel free to reach out to me directly.


Best regards,

Luke A. Schwinck

Chair | NABS Event Planning Committee

From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  9 20:07:45 2017
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 15:07:45 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system
Message-ID: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,
 
How well does jaws work with blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
class lecture text?
Bryan
 

From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  9 20:13:24 2017
From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:13:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard system
Message-ID: <000001d3114b$f689c600$e39d5200$@sbcglobal.net>

When I used Blackboard in college, it worked well.

Jen

spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net

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Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard system

Hi,
 
How well does JAWS work with Blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
class lecture text?


Bryan
 
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From personal.edward at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 20:23:54 2017
From: personal.edward at gmail.com (Edward Shaham)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:23:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system
In-Reply-To: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <002801d3114d$6c77c960$45675c20$@gmail.com>

Hello 

Blackboard works well with some exceptions. The message boards can be
cumbersome, so it's a good idea to check them out beforehand. Keep in mind
if your taking more than one course that utilizes blackboard, one message
board may be accessible, while another professor may set their boards up a
little differently, thus making it inaccessible. I always ask my professors
if their ok with me sending my discussion responses to them by email. The
professor will then post it to the discussion board for me under my name.
This helps to negate almost all issues with accessibility.

Also, jaws sometimes cuts the bottom of the page off on blackboard, so it's
a good idea to have either NVDA or window eyes handy.

Hope this helps,
Edward


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 4:08 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system

Hi,
 
How well does jaws work with blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
class lecture text?
Bryan
 
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From emitchell927 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 20:28:39 2017
From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:28:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system
In-Reply-To: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <54933F0F-AC8F-4936-BC2D-2926968115DF@gmail.com>

Ask your DSS office for help
My experience with it is it is difficult to work with but I use voiceover on mac


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How well does jaws work with blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
> class lecture text?
> Bryan
> 
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From dsykora29 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 21:45:09 2017
From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:45:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system
In-Reply-To: <54933F0F-AC8F-4936-BC2D-2926968115DF@gmail.com>
References: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
	<54933F0F-AC8F-4936-BC2D-2926968115DF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62978DF3-ED0F-4533-85A2-E56585FE2DB1@gmail.com>

I use Blackboard with jaws and haven't had anything that was completely inaccessible, including discussion boards, quizzes, assignments, and announcements.

Danielle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Ask your DSS office for help
> My experience with it is it is difficult to work with but I use voiceover on mac
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> How well does jaws work with blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
>> class lecture text?
>> Bryan
>> 
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From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 22:49:31 2017
From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:49:31 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] show work and do assignments in Pre-AP Pre-Calc and in AP
 Chem.
Message-ID: <8C3B20F1-A6BB-408C-877C-9FDA3FFA7FA0@yahoo.com>

Hi All, 

  This year, I'm taking Pre-AP Pre-Calc and AP Chemistry. Are there any suggestions for how to show my work and do my assignments for my teachers to read and for me to read? I also would like Anne Cunningham's info to ask about some things. Thank you! 

Blessings, 
Ahbee 

“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬

From sheth.neel.s at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 02:49:08 2017
From: sheth.neel.s at gmail.com (Neel Sheth)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:49:08 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] show work and do assignments in Pre-AP Pre-Calc and in
 AP Chem.
In-Reply-To: <8C3B20F1-A6BB-408C-877C-9FDA3FFA7FA0@yahoo.com>
References: <8C3B20F1-A6BB-408C-877C-9FDA3FFA7FA0@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C25009A-7FB2-45F9-A0AB-3B66B999CBCC@gmail.com>

Hello Ahbee, 
How comfortable are you with using braille? I use, and continue to use braille for all math and science classes. Since many braille note takers now support nemeth input, I’d suggest using that for all calculations. With patience, lots of patience, you should even be able to balance your redox reactions. The only point where I can see an issue is with drawing structures. What I did, was I drew the structures of compounds in braille, and if my teacher wanted to double check them, I’d ask my vision teacher to draw them according to my specifications. Bond placement, whether the bonds are single, double or triple. But in order to do that, you need to know the content extremely well. 
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
>  This year, I'm taking Pre-AP Pre-Calc and AP Chemistry. Are there any suggestions for how to show my work and do my assignments for my teachers to read and for me to read? I also would like Anne Cunningham's info to ask about some things. Thank you! 
> 
> Blessings, 
> Ahbee 
> 
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬
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From theweird1 at mediacombb.net  Thu Aug 10 05:21:22 2017
From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 00:21:22 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system
In-Reply-To: fXXHdHi8auLiQfXXJdW4ia
References: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
	fXXHdHi8auLiQfXXJdW4ia
Message-ID: <001101d31198$81dd9500$8598bf00$@mediacombb.net>

	I have had mixed experiences with blackboard.  Though I must say,
that it is a whole lot better than it use to be.  My courses are totally
online and so it plays a huge role in the course work.  

Loren  

P.s. I am using Jaws 17 and 18.  



-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Edward Shaham
via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 3:24 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: Edward Shaham
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] blackboard system

Hello 

Blackboard works well with some exceptions. The message boards can be
cumbersome, so it's a good idea to check them out beforehand. Keep in mind
if your taking more than one course that utilizes blackboard, one message
board may be accessible, while another professor may set their boards up a
little differently, thus making it inaccessible. I always ask my professors
if their ok with me sending my discussion responses to them by email. The
professor will then post it to the discussion board for me under my name.
This helps to negate almost all issues with accessibility.

Also, jaws sometimes cuts the bottom of the page off on blackboard, so it's
a good idea to have either NVDA or window eyes handy.

Hope this helps,
Edward


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 4:08 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system

Hi,
 
How well does jaws work with blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
class lecture text?
Bryan
 
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From hope.paulos at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 12:04:36 2017
From: hope.paulos at gmail.com (Hope Paulos)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:04:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard system
In-Reply-To: <000001d3114b$f689c600$e39d5200$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <000001d3114b$f689c600$e39d5200$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <44AE5185-1456-4011-98D2-15F67FA950C4@gmail.com>


Hi all. I have downloaded the Blackboard app for my iPhone. Does anybody use this? If so, when I go into a folder and one of my courses: say for example syllabus… I want to get back out of the folder… But I don't see any way to do so. Has anyone found a way around this? At the moment, I have to go all the way out of the course itself, by tapping on the main menu, and then I double tap the course, and go back into whatever I want to do: discussion board, syllabus, modules… Etc. 
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hope Paulos

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Jen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> When I used Blackboard in college, it worked well.
> 
> Jen
> 
> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> via NABS-L
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 4:08 PM
> 
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> 
> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> 
> Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard system
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How well does JAWS work with Blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
> class lecture text?
> 
> 
> Bryan
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 19:41:14 2017
From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:41:14 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard system
In-Reply-To: <44AE5185-1456-4011-98D2-15F67FA950C4@gmail.com>
References: <000001d3114b$f689c600$e39d5200$@sbcglobal.net>
	<44AE5185-1456-4011-98D2-15F67FA950C4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <598cb6db.d252240a.c75aa.4a36@mx.google.com>

Hi Hope,
I don't have it in front of me at the moment, but if memory serves there is an unlabelled button at the top left of the screen which is a "back" button. Double-tapping this should get you out of the folder without having the trouble you described.
HTH,
Sarah


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Sent: August 10, 2017 8:05 AM
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Cc: Hope Paulos
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Blackboard system


Hi all. I have downloaded the Blackboard app for my iPhone. Does anybody use this? If so, when I go into a folder and one of my courses: say for example syllabus… I want to get back out of the folder… But I don't see any way to do so. Has anyone found a way around this? At the moment, I have to go all the way out of the course itself, by tapping on the main menu, and then I double tap the course, and go back into whatever I want to do: discussion board, syllabus, modules… Etc. 
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hope Paulos

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Jen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> When I used Blackboard in college, it worked well.
> 
> Jen
> 
> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan 
> Schulz via NABS-L
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 4:08 PM
> 
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> 
> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> 
> Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard system
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How well does JAWS work with Blackboard for quizzes and accessing 
> college class lecture text?
> 
> 
> Bryan
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 04:25:59 2017
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 21:25:59 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CABS call
Message-ID: <397A2D54-C194-45F3-8160-97599B3D59DC@gmail.com>

Greetings to our NABS family!

Next Wednesday, August 16 at 8:00 PM Pacific, the California Association of Blind Students will be having our August conference call. Feel free to come join us for fun and stimulating conversation as we approach another historic California state convention! As usual, I thank you in advance for spreading the word about our movement. Please share this link to our Facebook page. There, you can keep up on all the latest CABS news, and you can also find ways to access our Twitter feed. Thanks to Matthew Gip and Carla Scroggins for working on these with me. Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/events/2026109204342337/



Best,
Cricket X. Bidleman
NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer 
Stanford University, Class of '21
Sent from my iPhone

From ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 15:47:32 2017
From: ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com (Ayoub Zurikat)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:47:32 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Inquiring about a scholarship
Message-ID: <0BD34AD3-C90C-4C3D-A073-E74CDCA76214@gmail.com>

Greetings all.
If I'm not mistaking sometime last week an email was sent about a scholarship that would be awarded to the person who submits a two minute video about his/her disability. Now, for the life of me I can't find that email. Does anyone have any idea what that's about? Or can someone send me the email again?
Thank you


From mikaelastevens at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 15:54:19 2017
From: mikaelastevens at gmail.com (Mikaela Stevens)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:54:19 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Share your story today!
In-Reply-To: <FC0EFFB1-35A8-4824-A8A7-4BE418460348@asu.edu>
References: <FC0EFFB1-35A8-4824-A8A7-4BE418460348@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <D3371D38-895D-4061-90D4-F86016CCFD81@gmail.com>

Is this what you're referring to, Ayoub?

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Bryan Duarte via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Greetings NABS,
> 
> I was asked to pass this awesome opportunity on to you all in case winning 2500, 5000, or 10,000 dollars interests you. Please consider applying for this great opportunity.
> 
> Website
> http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265 <http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265>
> 
> Announcement:
> Share your story today!
> 
> Lime Connect has launched the #IntheLimelight Video Contest, an
> exciting opportunity for talented individuals to share how they are
> rebranding disability through achievement.
> 
> Whether it’s as a student, intern, mid-level manager, or high-level
> executive, individuals with disabilities bring a unique perspective
> and diverse talents to the world, universities and the workplace each
> and every day. Though there are many great examples, a lack of
> visibility helps contribute to societal misconceptions and stigmas
> about what it means to live and work with a disability. Help us change
> the narrative!
> 
> We want to hear your story! Submit a 1–2 minute video telling us how
> you live #IntheLimelight for a chance to win a $10,000, $5,000, or
> $2,500 award.
> 
> Contest Date: Monday, July 17, 2017 – Sunday, August 20, 2017, @11:59 PM EST.
> 
> We’re awarding a total of $25,000 in cash prizes to the top videos,
> provided by Lime Connect special advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief
> Internet Evangelist, “One of the Fathers of the Internet," and the
> inspiration behind this contest!
> 
> We strongly encourage you to submit a short video and take advantage
> of this great opportunity. Learn more about how you can participate at
> our website!
> 
> You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
> however, we also encourage you to join for exclusive access to future
> opportunities. Additional information is available below.
> 
> Eligibility Requirements
> •    You must be an 18 or older student or professional living in the
> U.S. or Canada
> •    You must identify as a person who happens to have a disability*
> •    You must submit an original, unpublished work
> •    By participating, you grant Lime Connect full rights to use your
> submissions in future marketing and promotional materials (additional
> details available in the entry form).
> 
> More About #IntheLimelight
> The #IntheLimelight Video Contest was inspired by Lime Connect special
> advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief Internet Evangelist and “One of
> the Fathers of the Internet." As a leader in the disability community,
> Vint noted the serious lack of content around the experiences and
> success stories of people with disabilities. Lime Connect and Vint
> share the belief that sharing these stories will help to dispel
> misconceptions and highlight the value that individuals with
> disabilities bring to the world, universities, and the workplace and
> beyond. Lime Connect launched the first video contest in July 2017
> with Vint Cerf as the sponsor.
> 
> About The Lime Network
> You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
> however, we strongly encourage it. The Lime Network was developed to
> be a career resource for high-potential university students and
> professionals who happen to have disabilities. Network members receive
> exclusive access to scholarships, internships and career opportunities
> with our partners, one-one-coaching opportunities, professional
> development resources, and so much more! Join The Lime Network.
> 
> * An individual with a visible or invisible disability is defined as
> someone who has, or considers themselves to have, a long-term, or
> recurring, issue that impacts one or more major activities that others
> may consider to be a daily function; this definition also includes the
> perception among others that a disability exists. We know that 90% of
> disabilities on campus are invisible, as are the majority of those in
> the workplace, and individuals with all disabilities are encouraged to
> apply.
> 
> Bryan Duarte | software engineer
> ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
> Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow
> National Association of Blind Students | Board Member
> Arizona Association of Blind Students | President
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> 
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From ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 16:16:20 2017
From: ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com (Ayoub Zurikat)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 11:16:20 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Share your story today!
In-Reply-To: <D3371D38-895D-4061-90D4-F86016CCFD81@gmail.com>
References: <FC0EFFB1-35A8-4824-A8A7-4BE418460348@asu.edu>
	<D3371D38-895D-4061-90D4-F86016CCFD81@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B85F80E2-8327-4285-8BBE-1C3A9BA95C71@gmail.com>

Yes. Thank you very much

> On Aug 12, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Is this what you're referring to, Ayoub?
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Bryan Duarte via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings NABS,
>> 
>> I was asked to pass this awesome opportunity on to you all in case winning 2500, 5000, or 10,000 dollars interests you. Please consider applying for this great opportunity.
>> 
>> Website
>> http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265 <http://www.limeconnect.com/news_events/default.asp?id=265>
>> 
>> Announcement:
>> Share your story today!
>> 
>> Lime Connect has launched the #IntheLimelight Video Contest, an
>> exciting opportunity for talented individuals to share how they are
>> rebranding disability through achievement.
>> 
>> Whether it’s as a student, intern, mid-level manager, or high-level
>> executive, individuals with disabilities bring a unique perspective
>> and diverse talents to the world, universities and the workplace each
>> and every day. Though there are many great examples, a lack of
>> visibility helps contribute to societal misconceptions and stigmas
>> about what it means to live and work with a disability. Help us change
>> the narrative!
>> 
>> We want to hear your story! Submit a 1–2 minute video telling us how
>> you live #IntheLimelight for a chance to win a $10,000, $5,000, or
>> $2,500 award.
>> 
>> Contest Date: Monday, July 17, 2017 – Sunday, August 20, 2017, @11:59 PM EST.
>> 
>> We’re awarding a total of $25,000 in cash prizes to the top videos,
>> provided by Lime Connect special advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief
>> Internet Evangelist, “One of the Fathers of the Internet," and the
>> inspiration behind this contest!
>> 
>> We strongly encourage you to submit a short video and take advantage
>> of this great opportunity. Learn more about how you can participate at
>> our website!
>> 
>> You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
>> however, we also encourage you to join for exclusive access to future
>> opportunities. Additional information is available below.
>> 
>> Eligibility Requirements
>> •    You must be an 18 or older student or professional living in the
>> U.S. or Canada
>> •    You must identify as a person who happens to have a disability*
>> •    You must submit an original, unpublished work
>> •    By participating, you grant Lime Connect full rights to use your
>> submissions in future marketing and promotional materials (additional
>> details available in the entry form).
>> 
>> More About #IntheLimelight
>> The #IntheLimelight Video Contest was inspired by Lime Connect special
>> advisor, Vint Cerf – Google’s Chief Internet Evangelist and “One of
>> the Fathers of the Internet." As a leader in the disability community,
>> Vint noted the serious lack of content around the experiences and
>> success stories of people with disabilities. Lime Connect and Vint
>> share the belief that sharing these stories will help to dispel
>> misconceptions and highlight the value that individuals with
>> disabilities bring to the world, universities, and the workplace and
>> beyond. Lime Connect launched the first video contest in July 2017
>> with Vint Cerf as the sponsor.
>> 
>> About The Lime Network
>> You do not need to be a member of The Lime Network to participate,
>> however, we strongly encourage it. The Lime Network was developed to
>> be a career resource for high-potential university students and
>> professionals who happen to have disabilities. Network members receive
>> exclusive access to scholarships, internships and career opportunities
>> with our partners, one-one-coaching opportunities, professional
>> development resources, and so much more! Join The Lime Network.
>> 
>> * An individual with a visible or invisible disability is defined as
>> someone who has, or considers themselves to have, a long-term, or
>> recurring, issue that impacts one or more major activities that others
>> may consider to be a daily function; this definition also includes the
>> perception among others that a disability exists. We know that 90% of
>> disabilities on campus are invisible, as are the majority of those in
>> the workplace, and individuals with all disabilities are encouraged to
>> apply.
>> 
>> Bryan Duarte | software engineer
>> ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
>> Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow
>> National Association of Blind Students | Board Member
>> Arizona Association of Blind Students | President
>> 
>> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>> 
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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 01:10:08 2017
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:10:08 -1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Swimming and Other Ocean Activities
Message-ID: <598fa71f.5ca3620a.79e34.1a9c@mx.google.com>

Hi All.
I hope everyone is having a great summer.  I have a question for 
these who enjoy swimming, or any other ocean activity such as 
surfing or kayaking.
My parents have told me that if I go into the ocean with friends, 
then I need to make sure that these friends are watching closely, 
since there are certain things I could run into or waves that I 
might not be able to see.  However, I feel that I wouldn't want 
to put extra responsibility on a friend who wants to just enjoy 
the beach themselves.  I was wondering how you all go into the 
ocean and who you go with, if anyone.
Thanks,
Vejas


From ropermeaghan at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 01:24:18 2017
From: ropermeaghan at gmail.com (Roper, Meaghan)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:24:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Swimming and Other Ocean Activities
In-Reply-To: <598fa71f.5ca3620a.79e34.1a9c@mx.google.com>
References: <598fa71f.5ca3620a.79e34.1a9c@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <C15F49E4-24AF-441B-A37C-F099B47A5409@gmail.com>

Vejas, 

Speaking from personal experience, I was a swimmer from fourth grade through 12th grade. I swam  varsity all four years of high school, and managed the boys swim team as well as competing for the girls. I do not think that you need to be monitored while swimming, as long as you were properly educated about the safety of swimming in pools and other bodies of water. 

Swimming is an absolutely fantastic competitive sport and leisurely  activity, and as long as you are properly equipped I think you can take on any body of water at any depth. In my experience, swimming is one of the few activities that does not require any vision, at least on the competitive level and especially on the leisurely level. I don't see why you can't enjoy yourself swimming independently at any time.

I hope you were able to figure this out and enjoy the sport; definitely one of the best.

Best,

Meaghan

Meaghan Roper
Wheelock college | Class of 2018

> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> I hope everyone is having a great summer.  I have a question for these who enjoy swimming, or any other ocean activity such as surfing or kayaking.
> My parents have told me that if I go into the ocean with friends, then I need to make sure that these friends are watching closely, since there are certain things I could run into or waves that I might not be able to see.  However, I feel that I wouldn't want to put extra responsibility on a friend who wants to just enjoy the beach themselves.  I was wondering how you all go into the ocean and who you go with, if anyone.
> Thanks,
> Vejas
> 
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From nmpbrat at aol.com  Sun Aug 13 02:01:29 2017
From: nmpbrat at aol.com (nmpbrat at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:01:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Swimming and Other Ocean Activities
In-Reply-To: <C15F49E4-24AF-441B-A37C-F099B47A5409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15dd9531cd3-184a-12eb9@webprd-m90.mail.aol.com>

Although I do agree with Meaghan to some degree, I think the comparison of swimming in the pool versus swimming in the ocean is not the same.  I think the act of swimming itself is probably not what her parents are concerned about.  I think instead, they may be concerned about things like sharks, for example, which seem to be coming closer and closer to shore these days in places where people do swim and do other things like surf.  This is something that you don't encounter in a pool and something that cannot necessarily be sensed besides using vision, until its too late.  The other thing that i can think of is swift undercurrents.  This is also something not found in a pool and which a person can find oneself very disoriented, even for those with sight.  Since I am partially sighted, I'm not sure that I am the best one to give answers to this but I do see where they might have concerns.  I don't know that it necessarily means that your friends have to be attached to your hip, so to speak, but rather just aware of the surroundings and that you remain in reasonable proximity to them.  Honestly, regardless of whether you are there with them or not, they should be keeping watch for unwanted "visitors" and should also be keeping track of where they are in relation to the shore....so really the only thing they would need to do is make sure you're in the same general area to them.  
Just my 2 cents.    



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From: Roper, Meaghan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Roper, Meaghan <ropermeaghan at gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 12, 2017 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Swimming and Other Ocean Activities

Vejas, 

Speaking from personal experience, I was a swimmer from fourth grade through 12th grade. I swam  varsity all four years of high school, and managed the boys swim team as well as competing for the girls. I do not think that you need to be monitored while swimming, as long as you were properly educated about the safety of swimming in pools and other bodies of water. 

Swimming is an absolutely fantastic competitive sport and leisurely  activity, and as long as you are properly equipped I think you can take on any body of water at any depth. In my experience, swimming is one of the few activities that does not require any vision, at least on the competitive level and especially on the leisurely level. I don't see why you can't enjoy yourself swimming independently at any time.

I hope you were able to figure this out and enjoy the sport; definitely one of the best.

Best,

Meaghan

Meaghan Roper
Wheelock college | Class of 2018

> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> I hope everyone is having a great summer.  I have a question for these who enjoy swimming, or any other ocean activity such as surfing or kayaking.
> My parents have told me that if I go into the ocean with friends, then I need to make sure that these friends are watching closely, since there are certain things I could run into or waves that I might not be able to see.  However, I feel that I wouldn't want to put extra responsibility on a friend who wants to just enjoy the beach themselves.  I was wondering how you all go into the ocean and who you go with, if anyone.
> Thanks,
> Vejas
> 
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From kcj21 at bellsouth.net  Sun Aug 13 03:57:48 2017
From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (Kaley Jemison)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 23:57:48 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Swimming and Other Ocean Activities
In-Reply-To: <C15F49E4-24AF-441B-A37C-F099B47A5409@gmail.com>
References: <598fa71f.5ca3620a.79e34.1a9c@mx.google.com>
	<C15F49E4-24AF-441B-A37C-F099B47A5409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E0E588E5-65CF-45C9-BE4B-9C1499D1E729@bellsouth.net>

As a Floridian, I've grown up around the water and swim in the ocean, and snorkel by myself. As a blind person this is safe so long as you are aware of certain safety precautions. If there is a strong current, swim parallel to the shore until you can break through as for waves, if they seem at all big it is best just to swim under them. Feel free to email me off list for more specific questions. I hope this helps, 
Kaley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Roper, Meaghan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Vejas, 
> 
> Speaking from personal experience, I was a swimmer from fourth grade through 12th grade. I swam  varsity all four years of high school, and managed the boys swim team as well as competing for the girls. I do not think that you need to be monitored while swimming, as long as you were properly educated about the safety of swimming in pools and other bodies of water. 
> 
> Swimming is an absolutely fantastic competitive sport and leisurely  activity, and as long as you are properly equipped I think you can take on any body of water at any depth. In my experience, swimming is one of the few activities that does not require any vision, at least on the competitive level and especially on the leisurely level. I don't see why you can't enjoy yourself swimming independently at any time.
> 
> I hope you were able to figure this out and enjoy the sport; definitely one of the best.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Meaghan
> 
> Meaghan Roper
> Wheelock college | Class of 2018
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> I hope everyone is having a great summer.  I have a question for these who enjoy swimming, or any other ocean activity such as surfing or kayaking.
>> My parents have told me that if I go into the ocean with friends, then I need to make sure that these friends are watching closely, since there are certain things I could run into or waves that I might not be able to see.  However, I feel that I wouldn't want to put extra responsibility on a friend who wants to just enjoy the beach themselves.  I was wondering how you all go into the ocean and who you go with, if anyone.
>> Thanks,
>> Vejas
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 19:58:01 2017
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:58:01 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Fundraising Committee Meeting
Message-ID: <8B19CDC0-49AB-45E8-8FDB-60F0D42A76FB@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Come call into the NABS Fundraising Committee Meeting tomorrow night at 9EST.  We will be discussing all the different ways you can help NABS raise money.  The call in info is listed below 

Phone number: 712-770-5197
Access Code: 265669 

Looking forward to hearing you on the call 

Cody Beardslee 
Treasurer, National Association of Blind Students 
President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
Board Member, National Federation of the Blind of Minnesota 
Phone: 763-291-3711
Work Email: cbeardslee at blindinc.org 
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!



From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 13 23:18:13 2017
From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 18:18:13 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
Message-ID: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>

Hi All, 

  Have any of you had a class known as transitions even as a higher acadekic level student? I am in a class that is called this, but we are trying to figure out if this is everywhere else or not. We think that it might not be the least restrictive environment for me. In your high school, did you have a class that you were particularly learning and doing things to help transition you to life outside of high school? 

“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬

From keribcu at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 00:20:56 2017
From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:20:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
In-Reply-To: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>
References: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b679ec22-6927-547a-fa73-14da1972dead@gmail.com>

Most universities have a university101 or some what of a class like it 
these days.

The class teaches you all about college, dos and don'ts



On 8/13/2017 7:18 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>    Have any of you had a class known as transitions even as a higher acadekic level student? I am in a class that is called this, but we are trying to figure out if this is everywhere else or not. We think that it might not be the least restrictive environment for me. In your high school, did you have a class that you were particularly learning and doing things to help transition you to life outside of high school?
>
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬
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-- 
Keri Svendsen



From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 01:03:28 2017
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:03:28 -1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
In-Reply-To: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>
References: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AD36A147-D00B-4AE3-958D-37343709D51A@gmail.com>

Hi Ahbee,
I've never had a "transition class" in high school, although my college and career center did do a few sessions explaining to us about applying for colleges. I think my school and the college and career center in general expected you to try to get on with it for yourself, for the most part. You could get help, but mostly it was a case of you as the individual having to go to the college and career center.
That being said, if you do decide to attend a training center, which I know you're thinking about... when I went to LCB, we did have a college readiness class. There was a bunch of reading, discussion, sometimes a presenter, a midterm and a final. I think it's a good idea to have at your school though. Some people require more guidance than others. For some, the independence of my high school's college and career center would be great, and they would then just get on with it. But it didn't work so well for people who might have been more anxious about the process. 
Vejas

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 13:18, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
>  Have any of you had a class known as transitions even as a higher acadekic level student? I am in a class that is called this, but we are trying to figure out if this is everywhere else or not. We think that it might not be the least restrictive environment for me. In your high school, did you have a class that you were particularly learning and doing things to help transition you to life outside of high school? 
> 
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬
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From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 01:05:04 2017
From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:05:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
In-Reply-To: <b679ec22-6927-547a-fa73-14da1972dead@gmail.com>
References: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>
	<b679ec22-6927-547a-fa73-14da1972dead@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5990f742.8b0a240a.afe0e.b6c0@mx.google.com>

This sounds like a cool idea, but I've never heard of it at any school in Ontario at least. I can't speak to all of Canada (or North America, for that matter) though.

Sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L
Sent: August 13, 2017 8:21 PM
To: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L
Cc: Keri Svendsen
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?

Most universities have a university101 or some what of a class like it these days.

The class teaches you all about college, dos and don'ts



On 8/13/2017 7:18 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>    Have any of you had a class known as transitions even as a higher acadekic level student? I am in a class that is called this, but we are trying to figure out if this is everywhere else or not. We think that it might not be the least restrictive environment for me. In your high school, did you have a class that you were particularly learning and doing things to help transition you to life outside of high school?
>
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬
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From jhud7789 at twc.com  Mon Aug 14 02:15:38 2017
From: jhud7789 at twc.com (joseph hudson)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:15:38 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
In-Reply-To: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>
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Hello Abby, yes I have had a class like this.. And this is something that was taught at the school for the blind. It was very helpful. If you would like to correspond with me about this, free to do so.
> On Aug 13, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
>  Have any of you had a class known as transitions even as a higher acadekic level student? I am in a class that is called this, but we are trying to figure out if this is everywhere else or not. We think that it might not be the least restrictive environment for me. In your high school, did you have a class that you were particularly learning and doing things to help transition you to life outside of high school? 
> 
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬
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From nmpbrat at aol.com  Mon Aug 14 04:13:24 2017
From: nmpbrat at aol.com (nmpbrat at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:13:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
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Hi Ahbee,
I personally did not when I was in high school.  However, I am now teaching in a public school system in Ohio and I know at our high school there is a transition class.  Since I teach special ed., looking at it from that perspective, if you are on an IEP (even if it's simply because you need accommodations), IEPs are required to have a section and goals on transition (at least in our state) and so I believe that is part of the reason or purpose to have that class in order to be able to address that section of the IEP especially for students who spend most, if not all, of their time in regular education classes.  If you are always in regular classes, they still have to find a way to address that part of the IEP.  Now, I can't be for sure that this is the case at your school or in your situation but it is a possibility and another perspective.  For me, when I was in school, my transition IEP stuff was met through other means, like O&M training, etc. during after school hours.  So, I guess I would just say, before you take it personally or jump to conclusions, I would simply inquire as to what the purpose for you personally being in the class is...and then go from there.  
Nicole



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Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?

Hi All,   Have any of you had a class known as transitions even as a higher acadekic level student? I am in a class that is called this, but we are trying to figure out if this is everywhere else or not. We think that it might not be the least restrictive environment for me. In your high school, did you have a class that you were particularly learning and doing things to help transition you to life outside of high school? “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬_______________________________________________NABS-L mailing listNABS-L at nfbnet.orghttp://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.orgTo unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com

From singingemmanuelle at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 20:40:05 2017
From: singingemmanuelle at gmail.com (Emmanuelle Lo)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:40:05 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Suggestions for High School Art Class
Message-ID: <8526D13C-C809-4622-ACA1-CCD729E26627@gmail.com>

Hi all,

This year, my high school put an art class in my schedule with a new teacher whom I've never met before. I'm totally blind, and I've taken a ceramics class in the past, and in a past year when my art class had a photography component, I wrote a poem and worked with the help of fellow classmates to design and film a video to accompany it. Do you have any ideas for projects I could do this year or other adaptations for art class? 

Thanks,
Emmie

From bjduarte at asu.edu  Mon Aug 14 22:46:38 2017
From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:46:38 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Blog Post For The Month Of August
Message-ID: <39C4A8F6-5438-4D78-BAB4-932A397A87C3@asu.edu>

Greetings NABS,

This months blog post comes from Cricket Bidleman who was one of our national scholarship winners this year.

Cricket Bidleman was adopted from China, and currently lives in California. She will be starting her freshman year at Stanford University in September. Currently, she is a proud member of the National Federation of the Blind, serving on multiple committees in the student division. She also does outreach for the California student division of the NFB of California, and does quality assurance work on Pearson’s accessibility team. In her spare time, she enjoys reading, knitting, singing, hiking, playing the piano, learning, and working with technology. She hopes to be a college professor, and to study abroad in Europe.

Please join with me in reading this story about how another one of our NFB training centers has empowered one of our student members. If you have any questions or comments please contact Bryan at:
bjduarte at asu.edu <mailto:bjduarte at asu.edu>

http://nabslink.org/content/blog-post-month-august-first-time <http://nabslink.org/content/blog-post-month-august-first-time> 

Bryan Duarte | software engineer
ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow
National Association of Blind Students | Board Member
Arizona Association of Blind Students | President

The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


From keribcu at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 23:47:21 2017
From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:47:21 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Suggestions for High School Art Class
In-Reply-To: <8526D13C-C809-4622-ACA1-CCD729E26627@gmail.com>
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Emmie,


It depends what type of art class it is. I've done high-school and 
college level art.

I've done drawing, painting, clay, yarn, and so on projects.

If you give us more information I think we can assist. I also stress you 
speak to your teacher as well.


On 8/14/2017 4:40 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This year, my high school put an art class in my schedule with a new teacher whom I've never met before. I'm totally blind, and I've taken a ceramics class in the past, and in a past year when my art class had a photography component, I wrote a poem and worked with the help of fellow classmates to design and film a video to accompany it. Do you have any ideas for projects I could do this year or other adaptations for art class?
>
> Thanks,
> Emmie
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From singingemmanuelle at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 00:24:36 2017
From: singingemmanuelle at gmail.com (Emmanuelle Lo)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:24:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Suggestions for High School Art Class
In-Reply-To: <3ca57fa2-9483-6f07-e442-feb39011eca6@gmail.com>
References: <8526D13C-C809-4622-ACA1-CCD729E26627@gmail.com>
	<3ca57fa2-9483-6f07-e442-feb39011eca6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F178922C-8925-4810-82B1-274F5E02B24C@gmail.com>

I'm not sure what the class will be focussing on yet. I start Wednesday and can keep you posted when I find out more.

Have a great evening!

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Emmie,
> 
> 
> It depends what type of art class it is. I've done high-school and college level art.
> 
> I've done drawing, painting, clay, yarn, and so on projects.
> 
> If you give us more information I think we can assist. I also stress you speak to your teacher as well.
> 
> 
> On 8/14/2017 4:40 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> This year, my high school put an art class in my schedule with a new teacher whom I've never met before. I'm totally blind, and I've taken a ceramics class in the past, and in a past year when my art class had a photography component, I wrote a poem and worked with the help of fellow classmates to design and film a video to accompany it. Do you have any ideas for projects I could do this year or other adaptations for art class?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Emmie
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> 
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From mikgephart at icloud.com  Tue Aug 15 00:31:32 2017
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:31:32 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Suggestions for High School Art Class
In-Reply-To: <F178922C-8925-4810-82B1-274F5E02B24C@gmail.com>
References: <8526D13C-C809-4622-ACA1-CCD729E26627@gmail.com>
	<3ca57fa2-9483-6f07-e442-feb39011eca6@gmail.com>
	<F178922C-8925-4810-82B1-274F5E02B24C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8A998DD4-FED7-4BAE-A92F-E902BDD3DA10@icloud.com>

Hi Emmie,
     I took art a few years ago. My art teacher was great at finding tactile art ideas and being creative based on the project. I hope you have a teacher as good as my teacher was for me. Do your schedules come out online? I am in high school too, and my schedule is posted online. After it is posted, I go to the school website and find my teacher’s email addresses. I send them an email before we start school introducing myself and starting the conversation. While my TVI is always in touch with my teachers, I always send an email myself as well. Please feel free to ask any questions you have.
Mikayla
> On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure what the class will be focussing on yet. I start Wednesday and can keep you posted when I find out more.
> 
> Have a great evening!
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Emmie,
>> 
>> 
>> It depends what type of art class it is. I've done high-school and college level art.
>> 
>> I've done drawing, painting, clay, yarn, and so on projects.
>> 
>> If you give us more information I think we can assist. I also stress you speak to your teacher as well.
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/14/2017 4:40 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> This year, my high school put an art class in my schedule with a new teacher whom I've never met before. I'm totally blind, and I've taken a ceramics class in the past, and in a past year when my art class had a photography component, I wrote a poem and worked with the help of fellow classmates to design and film a video to accompany it. Do you have any ideas for projects I could do this year or other adaptations for art class?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Emmie
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>> 
>> -- 
>> Keri Svendsen
>> 
>> 
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From mikaelastevens at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 00:34:13 2017
From: mikaelastevens at gmail.com (Mikaela Stevens)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:34:13 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Suggestions for High School Art Class
In-Reply-To: <8526D13C-C809-4622-ACA1-CCD729E26627@gmail.com>
References: <8526D13C-C809-4622-ACA1-CCD729E26627@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A69F9B1B-8352-43E9-9B09-188DCD7E49E9@gmail.com>

Hi Emmanualle:

I recently finished taking an art education class. When you find out more information, please feel free to contact me off list. I have a few ideas how to make art accessible.

Best regards,
Mikaela


> On Aug 14, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This year, my high school put an art class in my schedule with a new teacher whom I've never met before. I'm totally blind, and I've taken a ceramics class in the past, and in a past year when my art class had a photography component, I wrote a poem and worked with the help of fellow classmates to design and film a video to accompany it. Do you have any ideas for projects I could do this year or other adaptations for art class? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Emmie
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From keribcu at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 00:42:27 2017
From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:42:27 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Suggestions for High School Art Class
In-Reply-To: <F178922C-8925-4810-82B1-274F5E02B24C@gmail.com>
References: <8526D13C-C809-4622-ACA1-CCD729E26627@gmail.com>
	<3ca57fa2-9483-6f07-e442-feb39011eca6@gmail.com>
	<F178922C-8925-4810-82B1-274F5E02B24C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <243a1371-28b4-7895-6994-6a19c801356b@gmail.com>

Find out more details, and then we'll help how we can!



On 8/14/2017 8:24 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote:
> I'm not sure what the class will be focussing on yet. I start Wednesday and can keep you posted when I find out more.
>
> Have a great evening!
>
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Emmie,
>>
>>
>> It depends what type of art class it is. I've done high-school and college level art.
>>
>> I've done drawing, painting, clay, yarn, and so on projects.
>>
>> If you give us more information I think we can assist. I also stress you speak to your teacher as well.
>>
>>
>> On 8/14/2017 4:40 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This year, my high school put an art class in my schedule with a new teacher whom I've never met before. I'm totally blind, and I've taken a ceramics class in the past, and in a past year when my art class had a photography component, I wrote a poem and worked with the help of fellow classmates to design and film a video to accompany it. Do you have any ideas for projects I could do this year or other adaptations for art class?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Emmie
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> -- 
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>>
>>
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From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 21:11:54 2017
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:11:54 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CABS Conference call
Message-ID: <CABP7S8N4Xgd115fo72wPVmOuBnFd+b-gUCuL7ZNCnn-ySe8ouw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello students!

I invite you to join the California Association of Blind Students
tonight on our conference call, as we approach an historic state
convention! Come join us for some insightful discussion, or just for
fun. Also, please share this link to our Facebook page so that you and
others can stay up-to-date on all of the latest from CABS! We also
have a Twitter that we hope you can help us promote, as we seek to
build the movement. Our twitter handle is @NFB_CABS ... Thanks! Call
details below!

Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2017
Time: 08:00 Pacific
Call-in number: (515) 739-1031
Access code: 958093

https://m.facebook.com/events/2026109204342337?_rdr

Best,
Cricket X. Bidleman
NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer
Stanford University, Class of '21


From yllekann at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 05:29:55 2017
From: yllekann at gmail.com (Kelly)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 01:29:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
References: <2E206D5E-E5E7-4C2C-B131-D1D531671FC3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>

>> Hello, everyone,
>>>>      Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>>>> 
>>>>      We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming), but when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were dismayed and frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
>>>> 
>>>>      We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue, and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or processed our email.
>>>> 
>>>>      So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern which must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind and visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the Cozmo application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so that they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
>>>> 
>>>>      If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for all children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into your address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be kept private and is only used by change.org . https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-accessible-to-all
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>>>> Kelly

From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 08:04:07 2017
From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 22:04:07 -1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Fantasy Football
Message-ID: <04C6DB49-4AD5-4650-A794-47AFDC96E450@gmail.com>



My Federation family:

Who’s ready for football season to start? Who loves competition? And, most importantly, who is ready to win a fantasy football league?
The National Association of Blind Students is excited to host our second annual NABS Fantasy Football League! Whether you are a seasonal football fan or interested in learning about the great American sport, we invite each and every one of you to participate in a little friendly competition amongst our Federation family. 

you may be asking yourself: what is a fantasy football league? A fantasy football league normally consists of 12 teams (some are less or more). Before the NFL season starts, fantasy teams draft their own team, consisting of NFL players. A draft order is set by the league and all owners draft until their roster is filled.  Each participant is considered a team owner.  In this particular league, each team will consist of 1 quarterback, 2 running backs, 2 wide receivers, a flex position which could be a running back, a wide receiver, or a tight end, a defense/ special teams, and a kicker.

This year, there will be only one division with no more than 12 players.  The league will require $30 to get started. The $30 will be broken into $15 for NABS as a participation fee, while the other half ($15) will go into a pot for the end of the season winner to grab for personal reward.  There will be only one winner in this League. We wouldn’t be our Federation family if we weren’t welcoming, encouraging, and inclusive, so please, bring family, friends, and other football enthusiast’s that you know to join in on the fun.

The Final day to sign-up will be August 30, with our Draft scheduled for September 2nd.Payment has never been easier. NABS is up to snuff with all payment options, including, but not limited to, check, PayPal, Venmo, and Square cash.
To sign-up, contact Cody Beardslee, NABS Treasurer, by sending an email to codybeardslee at gmail.com or by calling   (763) 291-3711.

Football season is here!
The National Association of Blind Students
  A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
www.nabslink.org


From kerrik2006 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 08:12:03 2017
From: kerrik2006 at gmail.com (Kerri Kosten)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:12:03 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] Fantasy Football
In-Reply-To: <04C6DB49-4AD5-4650-A794-47AFDC96E450@gmail.com>
References: <04C6DB49-4AD5-4650-A794-47AFDC96E450@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM6GWxzTNtUB79to-2CrnGTFZF9jYCkuhZB0ahmN5GPat-VWjw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.  I  would be interested but I am not a student. I recently got a job as
a sports writer for the dominion post newspaper. Could I still join in or
is it only for students? Also I noticed lots of announcements on this list
about conference calls for committees and such. Again  could I at least
call in to them or do you have to be a student to get involved? Thanks so
much.
Kerri

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:06 AM Shannon Cantan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

>
>
> My Federation family:
>
> Who’s ready for football season to start? Who loves competition? And, most
> importantly, who is ready to win a fantasy football league?
> The National Association of Blind Students is excited to host our second
> annual NABS Fantasy Football League! Whether you are a seasonal football
> fan or interested in learning about the great American sport, we invite
> each and every one of you to participate in a little friendly competition
> amongst our Federation family.
>
> you may be asking yourself: what is a fantasy football league? A fantasy
> football league normally consists of 12 teams (some are less or more).
> Before the NFL season starts, fantasy teams draft their own team,
> consisting of NFL players. A draft order is set by the league and all
> owners draft until their roster is filled.  Each participant is considered
> a team owner.  In this particular league, each team will consist of 1
> quarterback, 2 running backs, 2 wide receivers, a flex position which could
> be a running back, a wide receiver, or a tight end, a defense/ special
> teams, and a kicker.
>
> This year, there will be only one division with no more than 12 players.
> The league will require $30 to get started. The $30 will be broken into $15
> for NABS as a participation fee, while the other half ($15) will go into a
> pot for the end of the season winner to grab for personal reward.  There
> will be only one winner in this League. We wouldn’t be our Federation
> family if we weren’t welcoming, encouraging, and inclusive, so please,
> bring family, friends, and other football enthusiast’s that you know to
> join in on the fun.
>
> The Final day to sign-up will be August 30, with our Draft scheduled for
> September 2nd.Payment has never been easier. NABS is up to snuff with all
> payment options, including, but not limited to, check, PayPal, Venmo, and
> Square cash.
> To sign-up, contact Cody Beardslee, NABS Treasurer, by sending an email to
> codybeardslee at gmail.com or by calling   (763) 291-3711.
>
> Football season is here!
> The National Association of Blind Students
>   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
> www.nabslink.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 16:26:48 2017
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:26:48 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Fantasy Football
In-Reply-To: <CAM6GWxzTNtUB79to-2CrnGTFZF9jYCkuhZB0ahmN5GPat-VWjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <04C6DB49-4AD5-4650-A794-47AFDC96E450@gmail.com>
	<CAM6GWxzTNtUB79to-2CrnGTFZF9jYCkuhZB0ahmN5GPat-VWjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005001d31775$a074fbb0$e15ef310$@gmail.com>

Great question, Kerri! All individuals, student or not, are more than welcome to join in on the fun with our fantasy football league. Thank you for your interest and of course, thank you for supporting our students.
Congratulations on the new job! That sounds awesome! We would love for you to join in on our committee calls. All committee names, descriptions, and meetings time are listed on our home page of www.nabslink.org

I look forward to hearing your participation on future calls.

Thank you, and good luck in fantasy football!

Kathryn Webster
President | National Association of Blind Students

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerri Kosten via NABS-L
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:12 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Kerri Kosten <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fantasy Football

Hi.  I  would be interested but I am not a student. I recently got a job as a sports writer for the dominion post newspaper. Could I still join in or is it only for students? Also I noticed lots of announcements on this list about conference calls for committees and such. Again  could I at least call in to them or do you have to be a student to get involved? Thanks so much.
Kerri

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:06 AM Shannon Cantan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

>
>
> My Federation family:
>
> Who’s ready for football season to start? Who loves competition? And, 
> most importantly, who is ready to win a fantasy football league?
> The National Association of Blind Students is excited to host our 
> second annual NABS Fantasy Football League! Whether you are a seasonal 
> football fan or interested in learning about the great American sport, 
> we invite each and every one of you to participate in a little 
> friendly competition amongst our Federation family.
>
> you may be asking yourself: what is a fantasy football league? A 
> fantasy football league normally consists of 12 teams (some are less or more).
> Before the NFL season starts, fantasy teams draft their own team, 
> consisting of NFL players. A draft order is set by the league and all 
> owners draft until their roster is filled.  Each participant is 
> considered a team owner.  In this particular league, each team will 
> consist of 1 quarterback, 2 running backs, 2 wide receivers, a flex 
> position which could be a running back, a wide receiver, or a tight 
> end, a defense/ special teams, and a kicker.
>
> This year, there will be only one division with no more than 12 players.
> The league will require $30 to get started. The $30 will be broken 
> into $15 for NABS as a participation fee, while the other half ($15) 
> will go into a pot for the end of the season winner to grab for 
> personal reward.  There will be only one winner in this League. We 
> wouldn’t be our Federation family if we weren’t welcoming, 
> encouraging, and inclusive, so please, bring family, friends, and 
> other football enthusiast’s that you know to join in on the fun.
>
> The Final day to sign-up will be August 30, with our Draft scheduled 
> for September 2nd.Payment has never been easier. NABS is up to snuff 
> with all payment options, including, but not limited to, check, 
> PayPal, Venmo, and Square cash.
> To sign-up, contact Cody Beardslee, NABS Treasurer, by sending an email to
> codybeardslee at gmail.com or by calling   (763) 291-3711.
>
> Football season is here!
> The National Association of Blind Students
>   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind 
> www.nabslink.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 18:30:12 2017
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:30:12 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] A Message from CABS 1st VP
Message-ID: <CABP7S8Ov==OJXi2aB5XNXJMMytLf2iUXoHsGabCxro9rQRtYmg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello students!

Yesterday, we had a wonderful conference call. New members joined us,
and we had a lively chat full of ideas and inspiration. Our state
convention is quickly approaching, and it looks to be one of the best
in history for the California student division. I'd like to quickly
thank Rochelle Houston, from the state affiliate board, for joining us
and providing us with useful information and laughter.

And now, here is a message from the CABS 1st Vice President, Mary
Church regarding our next conference call:

Hello all,

I hope you had a great summer. Now it is time to come back to school.
Is everyone ready? We have a special back to school call planned. It
will
be held on Sunday, August 27 at 5 PM Pacific standard time. Thank you
all for liking our page and we are there for you so don't be afraid to
reach out.
We will be talking about our rights and responsibilities as a college
student's as well as other things that come up during this
back-to-school season.
Everyone is welcome. Bring your questions, answers, and resources! See
you there!

Date: Sunday, August 27, 2017
Time: 05:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Call-in Number: (515) 739-1031
Access code: 958093

All the best,
Mary Church

As usual, please share this link. I hope y'all can make it!

https://m.facebook.com/events/723088997878220?_ft_=top_level_post_id.723088997878220%3Atl_objid.723088997878220%3Apage_id.166747930401206%3Athid.166747930401206%3A306061129499414%3A70%3A0%3A1504249199%3A5778904633726704171&__tn__=C-R

Best,
Cricket X. Bidleman
Stanford University, Class of '21
NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer


From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 20:12:36 2017
From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 13:12:36 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Outreach committee meeting
Message-ID: <CAJwo9CmVDis9BjFAqOxVy9wUhK59AyAgSR3HgekzuACkcK1vfA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All

I hope this email finds all of you well.  This email is to invite all
interested to the outreach committee call next Wednesday August 23rd at
nine o'clock eastern time.  We will be going over goals for the committee
and speaking on different ideas to help grow outreach and membership for
our student division. All are welcome and all will be heard. I look forward
to seeing you all on the call.

All the Best,

Tarik Williams

From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 03:02:15 2017
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 23:02:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
In-Reply-To: <1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>
References: <2E206D5E-E5E7-4C2C-B131-D1D531671FC3@gmail.com>
	<1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <07ce01d317ce$6848a710$38d9f530$@gmail.com>

Kelly:

Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and what it
is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be curious to
know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and, if so,
what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs
attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to know
some further information before we get behind a petition or campaign.

Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM fields!

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelly via
NABS-L
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:30 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Kelly <yllekann at gmail.com>
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project

>> Hello, everyone,
>>>>      Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>>>> 
>>>>      We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming), but
when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were dismayed and
frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
>>>> 
>>>>      We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue,
and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or
processed our email.
>>>> 
>>>>      So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough
support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern which
must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind and
visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the Cozmo
application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so that
they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
>>>> 
>>>>      If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the
blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for all
children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by
clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into your
address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be kept
private and is only used by change.org .
https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce
ssible-to-all
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>>>> Kelly
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From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 13:22:24 2017
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:22:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Outreach committee meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAJwo9CmVDis9BjFAqOxVy9wUhK59AyAgSR3HgekzuACkcK1vfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJwo9CmVDis9BjFAqOxVy9wUhK59AyAgSR3HgekzuACkcK1vfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79A1EE3C-BA9F-42BE-9224-DB0AE9FC6FE1@gmail.com>

What is the call in number and access code?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 16:12, Tarik Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello All
> 
> I hope this email finds all of you well.  This email is to invite all
> interested to the outreach committee call next Wednesday August 23rd at
> nine o'clock eastern time.  We will be going over goals for the committee
> and speaking on different ideas to help grow outreach and membership for
> our student division. All are welcome and all will be heard. I look forward
> to seeing you all on the call.
> 
> All the Best,
> 
> Tarik Williams
> _______________________________________________
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 13:27:53 2017
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:27:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Outreach committee meeting
In-Reply-To: <79A1EE3C-BA9F-42BE-9224-DB0AE9FC6FE1@gmail.com>
References: <CAJwo9CmVDis9BjFAqOxVy9wUhK59AyAgSR3HgekzuACkcK1vfA@mail.gmail.com>
	<79A1EE3C-BA9F-42BE-9224-DB0AE9FC6FE1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <013d01d31825$cc2a30d0$647e9270$@gmail.com>

712-770-5197
Code: 265669

So glad you will be joining us next week!

Kathryn Webster
President

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nesma aly via
NABS-L
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 9:22 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nesma aly <nesmaaly123 at gmail.com>; Tarik Williams
<williams.tarik20 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Outreach committee meeting

What is the call in number and access code?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 16:12, Tarik Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hello All
> 
> I hope this email finds all of you well.  This email is to invite all 
> interested to the outreach committee call next Wednesday August 23rd 
> at nine o'clock eastern time.  We will be going over goals for the 
> committee and speaking on different ideas to help grow outreach and 
> membership for our student division. All are welcome and all will be 
> heard. I look forward to seeing you all on the call.
> 
> All the Best,
> 
> Tarik Williams
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From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 23:59:04 2017
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 19:59:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Celebrate Meet The Blind Month with VABS
Message-ID: <01b601d3187d$f97f3b40$ec7db1c0$@gmail.com>

Help the National Federation of the Blind of Virginia kick off "Meet the
Blind Month" with an afternoon of fun and recreation. The Virginia
Association of Blind Students will be hosting a bowling event to raise
awareness of the month and make the presence of our state's blind residents
felt. Bring family, friends, and fellow chapter members to the event and
engage in networking, social media campaigns, and a raffle for an Amazon
Tap.

Date: Saturday, October 7,2017

 

Time: 1pm

 

Location: Pin Boys at the Beach

1577 Laskin Rd. Suite. 100

Virginia Beach, VA23451

 

Enjoy a crisp autumn afternoon bowling with friends, relaxing near the
oceanside, and supporting the efforts of VABS to educate the public on the
effectiveness of blind students in our state and around the country. Our
public would be satisfied with hearing all the success stories that blind
students can give and you could be just one anecdote away from meeting a
future employer or scoring a future internship. Take this afternoon to
gamble on a chance to redefine your future. 

 

Price of games for all members are $2 and the shoe rental is free. This is
an open event and all friends and family members are welcomed to join us
this afternoon. We will be raffling off an Amazon Tap for $5 per ticket. You
must be present to win this prize. 

 

For more information, please feel free to contact Robert Parsons, President,
at rob.parso3389 at gmail .com or Naim Abu El-Hawa, Fundraising Chair, at
nmabuelhawa at gmail.com <mailto:nmabuelhawa at gmail.com> . We look forward to
debunking misconceptions with you in October.

 

Best Regards   

 

Robert E. Parsons Jr.

President, Richmond Chapter

President, Virginia Association of Blind Students

National Federation of the Blind of Virginia

Randolph Macon College '18 

Phone: 804 200 3275

"Without struggle, there is no progress." -Frederick Douglass

 


From alliefa1999 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 20 00:43:15 2017
From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:43:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
In-Reply-To: <15ddef23eaa-7395-6ab8@webprd-m108.mail.aol.com>
References: <D7BBC71D-488C-44C5-B3BB-8C4CC2D19242@yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO84cXoygMb0Tqf_Ys=1T4=D-Ria48HB7cFEK2KnGpqx9mmsug@mail.gmail.com>

I do not have that class.

On 8/14/17, nmpbrat--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Ahbee,
> I personally did not when I was in high school.  However, I am now teaching
> in a public school system in Ohio and I know at our high school there is a
> transition class.  Since I teach special ed., looking at it from that
> perspective, if you are on an IEP (even if it's simply because you need
> accommodations), IEPs are required to have a section and goals on transition
> (at least in our state) and so I believe that is part of the reason or
> purpose to have that class in order to be able to address that section of
> the IEP especially for students who spend most, if not all, of their time in
> regular education classes.  If you are always in regular classes, they still
> have to find a way to address that part of the IEP.  Now, I can't be for
> sure that this is the case at your school or in your situation but it is a
> possibility and another perspective.  For me, when I was in school, my
> transition IEP stuff was met through other means, like O&M training, etc.
> during after school hours.  So, I guess I would just say, before you take it
> personally or jump to conclusions, I would simply inquire as to what the
> purpose for you personally being in the class is...and then go from there.
> Nicole
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ahbee Orton <ahbeeorton at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sun, Aug 13, 2017 7:19 pm
> Subject: [nabs-l] Did you have a transitions class?
>
> Hi All,   Have any of you had a class known as transitions even as a higher
> acadekic level student? I am in a class that is called this, but we are
> trying to figure out if this is everywhere else or not. We think that it
> might not be the least restrictive environment for me. In your high school,
> did you have a class that you were particularly learning and doing things to
> help transition you to life outside of high school? “Love is patient, love
> is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not
> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps
> no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the
> truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always
> perseveres.”‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind.
> It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor
> others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record
> of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It
> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”‭‭1
> Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬
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From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 15:26:58 2017
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:26:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
Message-ID: <04D711CB-40F9-4541-9E41-7A1F427FCDD4@gmail.com>

Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues

Sent from my iPhone

From personal.edward at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 15:41:03 2017
From: personal.edward at gmail.com (Edward Shaham)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:41:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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Hello,
I think you can use your iPhone to write brail, but I don't know how it
works. Maybe someone can give more details.
Edward


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Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does
not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again
but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues

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From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 15:51:38 2017
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:51:38 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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In this case it may be best to stick with the tried-and-true low-tech solutions: a Perkins Brailler (my preference) and/or a slate and stylus. If you want to go the electric route, you can use Braille screen input on your iPhone as Edward suggests, although I've found it to be unreliable in many cases. So, I might suggest using a VoiceNote or VoiceSense, or simply using speech on a Braille notetaker.

Chris Nusbaum

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> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues
> 
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From yllekann at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 16:00:33 2017
From: yllekann at gmail.com (Kelly)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:00:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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Hello,
     There is a feature on the iPhone called Braille Screen Input.  To access it, VoiceOver must be active.  Follow these instructions to enable Braille Screen Input:
1. Go to Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Rotor.
2. Make sure that Braille Screen input is selected; it should be near the bottom of the long list of possible rotor options.
3. To test, go into a notetaking app of your choice (i.e Notes, AccessNote, Pages, etcetera).
4. Navigate to and activate a text field.
5. Cycle through your rotor options by rotating two fingers clockwise, until you hear "braille screen input".
6. Now, turn your phone so that the home button is on the right and the screen is facing away from you.  To calibrate your new braille keyboard, quickly tap three fingers on the right side of the screen, then three on the left.
7. Now you have a braille keyboard on your phone screen; dots 1, 2, and 3 are on the left, dots 4, 5, and 6 are on the right.
Here are some useful commands:
1. To cycle between contracted and uncontracted braille, swipe right with three fingers.  The default mode is uncontracted (which I personally prefer, since it offers character-by-character feedback as I type).
2. To lock or unlock the orientation of your keyboard, swipe down with three fingers.
3. To delete the previous character, swipe left with one finger.  To delete a word, swipe left with two fingers.
5. To add a space, swipe right with one finger.  To add a new line, swipe right with two fingers.
I hope that helped! I used braille screen input to type this email, so I know it works very well.

Have a great day!
Kelly


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:41, Edward Shaham via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I think you can use your iPhone to write brail, but I don't know how it
> works. Maybe someone can give more details.
> Edward
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 11:27 AM
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> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
> 
> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does
> not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again
> but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues
> 
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From yllekann at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 16:16:27 2017
From: yllekann at gmail.com (Kelly)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:16:27 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
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Chris:
     Based on Disney's Wallie, Cozmo is a small robot that resembles a model car, with tank treads and a tiny, front-mounted forklift.
     Although it was originally designed as a STEM toy for young children, its manufacturer (Anki), has recently expanded the product's capabilities.  Specifically, the Cozmo app now includes a code lab, which is used to program the robot to talk, recognize faces, and search for and interact with objects.  The code lab offers a simple introduction to programming, but the real educational value is in Cozmo's SDK (software development kit).  Through the combined use of the app and SDK, students can learn and practice the Python programming language.
     Since Cozmo is relatively new, there is not a lot of widespread classroom use as of now.  However, several universities have begun to integrate the robot into their computer science classes.
     Personally, I care about this issue because STEM learning robots are the future of computer science education for students of all ages.  By working to make this software accessible, we could set an example for other companies now so that we can all use similar tools in the future.
Here is an article about Cozmo's SDK that you may find useful, as well as Cozmo's home page:
1. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/version-1468272030-2/amp/
2. https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo

Thank you very much for your interest!  Please feel free to contact me again if you have any additional questions.
Kelly
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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 23:02, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Kelly:
> 
> Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and what it
> is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be curious to
> know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and, if so,
> what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs
> attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to know
> some further information before we get behind a petition or campaign.
> 
> Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM fields!
> 
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
> 
>>> Hello, everyone,
>>>>>     Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming), but
> when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were dismayed and
> frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue,
> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or
> processed our email.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough
> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern which
> must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind and
> visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the Cozmo
> application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so that
> they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the
> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for all
> children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by
> clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into your
> address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be kept
> private and is only used by change.org .
> https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce
> ssible-to-all
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>>>>> Kelly
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 21 16:48:44 2017
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:48:44 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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Hello Taylor,

I commend you for wanting to find a way to use your braille skills even though you have a difficult time reading braille. Perhaps you could connect a braille note taker or braille display to a computer or iPhone, and use a screen reader of your choice to read what you have written in braille.

If you are looking for a way to take notes during class, using a slate and stylus while recording the class lecture maybe an option worth considering if you find it difficult to read braille. I find that taking class notes with a slate and stylus helps me remember Information better  even though I have a difficult time reading braille.

I hope you find these suggestions helpful, and that you can find a solution that works best for your situation.

Take care,
Elizabeth

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> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues
> 
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From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 18:26:01 2017
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:26:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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No I just need a way to write braille I already figured out how I'm gonna read my notes but I cannot use the slate and stylus are there any braille input keyboards for the iPad or something

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Taylor,
> 
> I commend you for wanting to find a way to use your braille skills even though you have a difficult time reading braille. Perhaps you could connect a braille note taker or braille display to a computer or iPhone, and use a screen reader of your choice to read what you have written in braille.
> 
> If you are looking for a way to take notes during class, using a slate and stylus while recording the class lecture maybe an option worth considering if you find it difficult to read braille. I find that taking class notes with a slate and stylus helps me remember Information better  even though I have a difficult time reading braille.
> 
> I hope you find these suggestions helpful, and that you can find a solution that works best for your situation.
> 
> Take care,
> Elizabeth
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues
>> 
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From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 19:15:23 2017
From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:15:23 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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Hi there,
You could try the MBraille app, found at
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/mbraille/id639199558?mt=8
It allows you to type in Braille via a third-party keyboard, or type from
the app itself, from which you can send texts, write ;e-mails, etc. It's a
really powerful option.
HTH,
Sarah

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Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking

Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does
not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again
but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues

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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 21 19:18:14 2017
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:18:14 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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Hello Taylor,

I believe most braille note taker's and braille displays allow for braille input on computers, iPhones, and iPads. Perhaps other people can provide recommendations on the best braille display to pair with an iPad.

 Otherwise, you can try using the Braille keyboard on your iPad as mentioned in previous emails to see if this would work for you. You could also try searching for other apps that would allow you to create a braille keyboard on your iPad. I do not know of other apps that would allow you to create a braille keyboard on your iPad, but this does not mean that they are not out there somewhere.

I wish you the best of luck in finding a solution that works best for you.

Take care,
Elizabeth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> No I just need a way to write braille I already figured out how I'm gonna read my notes but I cannot use the slate and stylus are there any braille input keyboards for the iPad or something
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Taylor,
>> 
>> I commend you for wanting to find a way to use your braille skills even though you have a difficult time reading braille. Perhaps you could connect a braille note taker or braille display to a computer or iPhone, and use a screen reader of your choice to read what you have written in braille.
>> 
>> If you are looking for a way to take notes during class, using a slate and stylus while recording the class lecture maybe an option worth considering if you find it difficult to read braille. I find that taking class notes with a slate and stylus helps me remember Information better  even though I have a difficult time reading braille.
>> 
>> I hope you find these suggestions helpful, and that you can find a solution that works best for your situation.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 19:45:15 2017
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:45:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
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Or if there's a braille keyboard that work for you

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Taylor,
> 
> I believe most braille note taker's and braille displays allow for braille input on computers, iPhones, and iPads. Perhaps other people can provide recommendations on the best braille display to pair with an iPad.
> 
> Otherwise, you can try using the Braille keyboard on your iPad as mentioned in previous emails to see if this would work for you. You could also try searching for other apps that would allow you to create a braille keyboard on your iPad. I do not know of other apps that would allow you to create a braille keyboard on your iPad, but this does not mean that they are not out there somewhere.
> 
> I wish you the best of luck in finding a solution that works best for you.
> 
> Take care,
> Elizabeth
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> No I just need a way to write braille I already figured out how I'm gonna read my notes but I cannot use the slate and stylus are there any braille input keyboards for the iPad or something
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Taylor,
>>> 
>>> I commend you for wanting to find a way to use your braille skills even though you have a difficult time reading braille. Perhaps you could connect a braille note taker or braille display to a computer or iPhone, and use a screen reader of your choice to read what you have written in braille.
>>> 
>>> If you are looking for a way to take notes during class, using a slate and stylus while recording the class lecture maybe an option worth considering if you find it difficult to read braille. I find that taking class notes with a slate and stylus helps me remember Information better  even though I have a difficult time reading braille.
>>> 
>>> I hope you find these suggestions helpful, and that you can find a solution that works best for your situation.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 19:45:31 2017
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:45:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
In-Reply-To: <BN4PR12MB07541E59529081FC01FE7E61BA870@BN4PR12MB0754.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <04D711CB-40F9-4541-9E41-7A1F427FCDD4@gmail.com>
	<BN4PR12MB07543C05E9CE418638F51649BA870@BN4PR12MB0754.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
	<AA6A45CC-47F9-460D-9583-F21D907B4E91@gmail.com>
	<BN4PR12MB07541E59529081FC01FE7E61BA870@BN4PR12MB0754.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <AE663554-F35C-4BF7-A031-34EAE6EF74AD@gmail.com>

That would work also and I don't need the braille display

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Taylor,
> 
> I believe most braille note taker's and braille displays allow for braille input on computers, iPhones, and iPads. Perhaps other people can provide recommendations on the best braille display to pair with an iPad.
> 
> Otherwise, you can try using the Braille keyboard on your iPad as mentioned in previous emails to see if this would work for you. You could also try searching for other apps that would allow you to create a braille keyboard on your iPad. I do not know of other apps that would allow you to create a braille keyboard on your iPad, but this does not mean that they are not out there somewhere.
> 
> I wish you the best of luck in finding a solution that works best for you.
> 
> Take care,
> Elizabeth
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> No I just need a way to write braille I already figured out how I'm gonna read my notes but I cannot use the slate and stylus are there any braille input keyboards for the iPad or something
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Taylor,
>>> 
>>> I commend you for wanting to find a way to use your braille skills even though you have a difficult time reading braille. Perhaps you could connect a braille note taker or braille display to a computer or iPhone, and use a screen reader of your choice to read what you have written in braille.
>>> 
>>> If you are looking for a way to take notes during class, using a slate and stylus while recording the class lecture maybe an option worth considering if you find it difficult to read braille. I find that taking class notes with a slate and stylus helps me remember Information better  even though I have a difficult time reading braille.
>>> 
>>> I hope you find these suggestions helpful, and that you can find a solution that works best for your situation.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille  again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger issues
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 20:52:43 2017
From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:52:43 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille note taking
In-Reply-To: <AE663554-F35C-4BF7-A031-34EAE6EF74AD@gmail.com>
References: <04D711CB-40F9-4541-9E41-7A1F427FCDD4@gmail.com>
	<BN4PR12MB07543C05E9CE418638F51649BA870@BN4PR12MB0754.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
	<AA6A45CC-47F9-460D-9583-F21D907B4E91@gmail.com>
	<BN4PR12MB07541E59529081FC01FE7E61BA870@BN4PR12MB0754.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
	<AE663554-F35C-4BF7-A031-34EAE6EF74AD@gmail.com>
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Here's another idea: the Braille Pen - - http://braillepen.com/braillepens/
I think the Braille Pen Slim is a Braille keyboard without a display, which
is exactly what you're looking for.


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Taylor Arndt
via NABS-L
Sent: August 21, 2017 3:46 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Taylor Arndt
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille note taking

That would work also and I don't need the braille display

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Taylor,
> 
> I believe most braille note taker's and braille displays allow for braille
input on computers, iPhones, and iPads. Perhaps other people can provide
recommendations on the best braille display to pair with an iPad.
> 
> Otherwise, you can try using the Braille keyboard on your iPad as
mentioned in previous emails to see if this would work for you. You could
also try searching for other apps that would allow you to create a braille
keyboard on your iPad. I do not know of other apps that would allow you to
create a braille keyboard on your iPad, but this does not mean that they are
not out there somewhere.
> 
> I wish you the best of luck in finding a solution that works best for you.
> 
> Take care,
> Elizabeth
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>> 
>> No I just need a way to write braille I already figured out how I'm gonna
read my notes but I cannot use the slate and stylus are there any braille
input keyboards for the iPad or something
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Taylor,
>>> 
>>> I commend you for wanting to find a way to use your braille skills even
though you have a difficult time reading braille. Perhaps you could connect
a braille note taker or braille display to a computer or iPhone, and use a
screen reader of your choice to read what you have written in braille.
>>> 
>>> If you are looking for a way to take notes during class, using a slate
and stylus while recording the class lecture maybe an option worth
considering if you find it difficult to read braille. I find that taking
class notes with a slate and stylus helps me remember Information better
even though I have a difficult time reading braille.
>>> 
>>> I hope you find these suggestions helpful, and that you can find a
solution that works best for your situation.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello, do you know of any braille product that I can take notes on but
does not have a braille display I'm just started to take notes  Braille
again but I can write Braille  I just cannot read it because it finger
issues
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
NABS-L:
>>>>
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From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 22:07:24 2017
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:07:24 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Next Fundraising Call
Message-ID: <710B86C5-EB5A-412B-B694-3F06C709F303@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, 

The next NABS Fundraising Committee call will be next Monday August 28th at 9pm eastern.  Come join the call where we will be having an interactive discussion about how we can raise money for our wonderful student division!  You cannot spell FUNdraising without fun!  And don't forget to join NABS Fantasy Football 

Here is the conference line info 

Conference Line: (712) 770-5197 
Access code: 265669 

Look forward to hearing from you! 

Cody Beardslee 
Treasurer, National Association of Blind Students 
President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
Board Member, National Federation of the Blind of Minnesota 
Phone: 763-291-3711
Work Email: cbeardslee at blindinc.org 
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 23:37:16 2017
From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:37:16 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Membership
Message-ID: <1A65DAE1-5F76-4F8B-B213-187ABAF0F265@gmail.com>

Membership call


Hello all. 

 I hope this email finds everyone well. On behalf of the student division we all would like to formally invite you to the August membership call. This call will take place on August 27 at 8 o'clock Eastern standard time. On this membership call we will be talking to a few different students about their motivation and how they have gotten through different obstacles while working through their education.   We have all had different obstacles to climb over in our educational careers. We will be hearing from different individuals and seeing how they got through those obstacles and maintain their motivation.  I hope to see you on the call!


The call information is 

Call: 712-770-5197
Access code: 265669




All the best,

 Tarik Williams




From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 23:47:19 2017
From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:47:19 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube channel
Message-ID: <53329308-3C5A-401C-9FBE-FE20C9C36A85@gmail.com>

YouTube announcement 

Hello all,
On behalf of the National Association of Blind Students, I am proud to announce our new student division YouTube channels titled "how blind students see it". On this YouTube channel, it will be a platform for different blind students to show us what is going on in their lives and their different successes. This channel will also have different videos educating people on different situations that blind people face and how blind students accomplish their goals. Here is a link to our YouTube channel and our first video introducing the board. We hope to have you subscribe and like our videos. We look forward to connecting with all of you in the future!

https://youtu.be/QnLE5sghKic


All the best,


Tarik Willians 

From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 02:22:54 2017
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 22:22:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] New web master class that I'm offering
Message-ID: <3A0B88AC-2993-4F1F-A7CD-DE82126C7BC3@gmail.com>

Hello all, I just thought I would let you know that I think I'm going to be starting a web master class basically you will learn how to maintain a website I'm doing this because I feel like it will be very helpful for a blind person to learn how to maintain a website this is a course designed especially for the blind and visually impaired
To contact me in to sign up please email
tayarndt at gmail.com 
The training is going to cost 10 bucks and PayPal will be excepted
PayPal email address is
taylorarndt99 at gmail.com
In this training you were in the following
Learn some basic web terminology
Understand file transfer protocol and be able to use it
Understand some basic HTML tag

Be able to update existing website with new content
Learn about web hosting and domain
Learn about accessibility and accessibility guidelines
Learn about how to code a website or update it so that it meets accessibility guidelines
Learn about how to format a website to make it visually appealing
And there will probably be more I'm not sure of the date but it will be online if you are interested like I said please contact me
Sent from my iPhone

From tyler at tysdomain.com  Tue Aug 22 02:47:27 2017
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 22:47:27 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] New web master class that I'm offering
In-Reply-To: <3A0B88AC-2993-4F1F-A7CD-DE82126C7BC3@gmail.com>
References: <3A0B88AC-2993-4F1F-A7CD-DE82126C7BC3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b354d2c0-0d58-c1e5-1583-7e9c72968bb4@tysdomain.com>

Hello,
While I applaud your efforts to teach a class and get this going, I'm
curious if you've worked with the webmaster's division of NFB to set
something like this up. What credentials do you have that makes you a
teacher? What is your meeting platform? And most importantly, and I
don't want to sound rude, but why wasn't this spellchecked? When I pay
for a class I expect a date to be announced and a full list of topics
that will be covered, not "and probably more" What if someone pays and
can't make the specified times?
Thanks,
On 8/21/2017 10:22 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote:
> Hello all, I just thought I would let you know that I think I'm going to be starting a web master class basically you will learn how to maintain a website I'm doing this because I feel like it will be very helpful for a blind person to learn how to maintain a website this is a course designed especially for the blind and visually impaired
> To contact me in to sign up please email
> tayarndt at gmail.com 
> The training is going to cost 10 bucks and PayPal will be excepted
> PayPal email address is
> taylorarndt99 at gmail.com
> In this training you were in the following
> Learn some basic web terminology
> Understand file transfer protocol and be able to use it
> Understand some basic HTML tag
>
> Be able to update existing website with new content
> Learn about web hosting and domain
> Learn about accessibility and accessibility guidelines
> Learn about how to code a website or update it so that it meets accessibility guidelines
> Learn about how to format a website to make it visually appealing
> And there will probably be more I'm not sure of the date but it will be online if you are interested like I said please contact me
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
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-- 

Take Care,
Tyler Littlefield

Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business
solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site
<http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter
<http://twitter.com/sorressean>

From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 02:59:58 2017
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 22:59:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] New web master class that I'm offering
In-Reply-To: <b354d2c0-0d58-c1e5-1583-7e9c72968bb4@tysdomain.com>
References: <3A0B88AC-2993-4F1F-A7CD-DE82126C7BC3@gmail.com>
	<b354d2c0-0d58-c1e5-1583-7e9c72968bb4@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <CAFsrCh1RFqVRydDD8qu0pQtwTRWdZhTQH7kH7c9Sn8aGOyT1eQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, sorry I had some issues
First of all  am trying to  get peoples interest in this class and
then would find the date and time. I may just make the first session
free but those topics are going to be the basic topics being covered
but I am quolified because i have been studdying weg design for a
while now and I have and am making the NFB of Michigan’s web site and
revamping it. I also taught a web training in Michigan and it went
over well with the people I taught it to. Sorry for the confusion but
I am also starting a new web design company and I will get a real web
site after I make some money from my web company  but this is a
service I provide
Website
https://taylorswebdesign.000webhostapp.com


On 8/21/17, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello,
> While I applaud your efforts to teach a class and get this going, I'm
> curious if you've worked with the webmaster's division of NFB to set
> something like this up. What credentials do you have that makes you a
> teacher? What is your meeting platform? And most importantly, and I
> don't want to sound rude, but why wasn't this spellchecked? When I pay
> for a class I expect a date to be announced and a full list of topics
> that will be covered, not "and probably more" What if someone pays and
> can't make the specified times?
> Thanks,
> On 8/21/2017 10:22 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hello all, I just thought I would let you know that I think I'm going to
>> be starting a web master class basically you will learn how to maintain a
>> website I'm doing this because I feel like it will be very helpful for a
>> blind person to learn how to maintain a website this is a course designed
>> especially for the blind and visually impaired
>> To contact me in to sign up please email
>> tayarndt at gmail.com
>> The training is going to cost 10 bucks and PayPal will be excepted
>> PayPal email address is
>> taylorarndt99 at gmail.com
>> In this training you were in the following
>> Learn some basic web terminology
>> Understand file transfer protocol and be able to use it
>> Understand some basic HTML tag
>>
>> Be able to update existing website with new content
>> Learn about web hosting and domain
>> Learn about accessibility and accessibility guidelines
>> Learn about how to code a website or update it so that it meets
>> accessibility guidelines
>> Learn about how to format a website to make it visually appealing
>> And there will probably be more I'm not sure of the date but it will be
>> online if you are interested like I said please contact me
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com
>
>
> --
>
> Take Care,
> Tyler Littlefield
>
> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business
> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site
> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter
> <http://twitter.com/sorressean>
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>


-- 
Taylor


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 12:42:48 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:42:48 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube channel
Message-ID: <599c26dd.e266ca0a.f4392.88e7@mx.google.com>

Hi Derek thanks for your message.  I will subscribe to your 
youtube channel.


From alliefa1999 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 14:11:35 2017
From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 10:11:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube channel
In-Reply-To: <599c26dd.e266ca0a.f4392.88e7@mx.google.com>
References: <599c26dd.e266ca0a.f4392.88e7@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAO84cXo8=Fk5Yw8o5+0PL7y5xZu7xzoMbTWe888vc7VjBdySQw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for the message.

On 8/22/17, roanna bacchus via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Derek thanks for your message.  I will subscribe to your
> youtube channel.
>
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From chris.omeally at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 18:51:05 2017
From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'meally)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 14:51:05 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube channel
In-Reply-To: <CAO84cXo8=Fk5Yw8o5+0PL7y5xZu7xzoMbTWe888vc7VjBdySQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <599c26dd.e266ca0a.f4392.88e7@mx.google.com>
	<CAO84cXo8=Fk5Yw8o5+0PL7y5xZu7xzoMbTWe888vc7VjBdySQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACOe-GXp1LRR_-qSL-8ZFuVZTTvt8Eg45vuYUCXmSYYzAjY+Nw@mail.gmail.com>

do you all need a video editer?

On 8/22/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Thank you for the message.
>
> On 8/22/17, roanna bacchus via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Derek thanks for your message.  I will subscribe to your
>> youtube channel.
>>
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From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 21:53:18 2017
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 17:53:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
Message-ID: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>

Dear Students,
A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
Gratefully,
   Syed Rizvi 

From ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 22:00:21 2017
From: ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com (Ayoub Zurikat)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 17:00:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
In-Reply-To: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
References: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79702898-3455-4FA1-9982-38CC20BF84ED@gmail.com>

I'm really not that professional at doing it, but I know one or two tricks. So, if no one else who is kind of a pro would come forth by the end of tomorrow, I'll do it.

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Students,
> A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
> Gratefully,
>   Syed Rizvi 
> _______________________________________________
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Tue Aug 22 22:01:46 2017
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:01:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
In-Reply-To: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
References: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c22cb3ae-47fe-284d-4071-962a56ede342@tysdomain.com>

Happy to help, feel free to pass along any info.

On 8/22/2017 5:53 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote:
> Dear Students,
> A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
> Gratefully,
>    Syed Rizvi 
> _______________________________________________
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solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site
<http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin
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From ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 22:02:21 2017
From: ayoub.zurikat.nfb at gmail.com (Ayoub Zurikat)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 17:02:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
In-Reply-To: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
References: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CF3A609E-488C-4DBF-91ED-03286357EABB@gmail.com>

Also, the Applevis podcast is designed for blind users, it's extremely helpful and informative

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Students,
> A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
> Gratefully,
>   Syed Rizvi 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From emitchell927 at icloud.com  Tue Aug 22 22:05:52 2017
From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:05:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
In-Reply-To: <79702898-3455-4FA1-9982-38CC20BF84ED@gmail.com>
References: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
	<79702898-3455-4FA1-9982-38CC20BF84ED@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D292D554-4E85-4864-9FC7-D994F5F4CE50@icloud.com>

I use mac all the time
Voice over is easy
Emma
If you need help I'm here

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Ayoub Zurikat via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm really not that professional at doing it, but I know one or two tricks. So, if no one else who is kind of a pro would come forth by the end of tomorrow, I'll do it.
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Students,
>> A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
>> Gratefully,
>>  Syed Rizvi 
>> _______________________________________________
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From yllekann at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 22:23:20 2017
From: yllekann at gmail.com (Kelly)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:23:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
In-Reply-To: <D292D554-4E85-4864-9FC7-D994F5F4CE50@icloud.com>
References: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
	<79702898-3455-4FA1-9982-38CC20BF84ED@gmail.com>
	<D292D554-4E85-4864-9FC7-D994F5F4CE50@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <8D98EA55-2878-4E23-9656-2E3A84B7BE16@gmail.com>

Oello.  I am a frequent and proficient Mac user and find it invaluable in the classroom.  I would be happy to teach the student (or anyone for that matter); I enjoy helping people learn to use technology.
Feel free to reach out to me through this email address.

Regards,
Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 18:05, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use mac all the time
> Voice over is easy
> Emma
> If you need help I'm here
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Ayoub Zurikat via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm really not that professional at doing it, but I know one or two tricks. So, if no one else who is kind of a pro would come forth by the end of tomorrow, I'll do it.
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Students,
>>> A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Gratefully,
>>> Syed Rizvi 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ayoub.zurikat.nfb%40gmail.com
>> 
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From emitchell927 at icloud.com  Tue Aug 22 22:58:07 2017
From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:58:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
In-Reply-To: <79702898-3455-4FA1-9982-38CC20BF84ED@gmail.com>
References: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
	<79702898-3455-4FA1-9982-38CC20BF84ED@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD573A24-5AD9-4719-99CC-BCD609C80A16@icloud.com>

I am my number is 2023224294 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Ayoub Zurikat via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm really not that professional at doing it, but I know one or two tricks. So, if no one else who is kind of a pro would come forth by the end of tomorrow, I'll do it.
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Students,
>> A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
>> Gratefully,
>>  Syed Rizvi 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From truewise.8614 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 01:43:13 2017
From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:43:13 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
In-Reply-To: <1354395C-B416-4967-9D9D-B1CE347A6810@gmail.com>
References: <2E206D5E-E5E7-4C2C-B131-D1D531671FC3@gmail.com>
	<1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>
	<07ce01d317ce$6848a710$38d9f530$@gmail.com>
	<1354395C-B416-4967-9D9D-B1CE347A6810@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOrr3bMY9LSt1MpjvVFQEW5HAWooh7z5vV2VZrRN6S9mVtr6BQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kelly,

would you like your project to be featured in an issue of a biweekly
newsletter of one of my former host organizations that deals with
inclusion of all types including disability?

Vanna

On 8/21/17, Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Chris:
>      Based on Disney's Wallie, Cozmo is a small robot that resembles a model
> car, with tank treads and a tiny, front-mounted forklift.
>      Although it was originally designed as a STEM toy for young children,
> its manufacturer (Anki), has recently expanded the product's capabilities.
> Specifically, the Cozmo app now includes a code lab, which is used to
> program the robot to talk, recognize faces, and search for and interact with
> objects.  The code lab offers a simple introduction to programming, but the
> real educational value is in Cozmo's SDK (software development kit).
> Through the combined use of the app and SDK, students can learn and practice
> the Python programming language.
>      Since Cozmo is relatively new, there is not a lot of widespread
> classroom use as of now.  However, several universities have begun to
> integrate the robot into their computer science classes.
>      Personally, I care about this issue because STEM learning robots are
> the future of computer science education for students of all ages.  By
> working to make this software accessible, we could set an example for other
> companies now so that we can all use similar tools in the future.
> Here is an article about Cozmo's SDK that you may find useful, as well as
> Cozmo's home page:
> 1.
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/version-1468272030-2/amp/
> 2. https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo
>
> Thank you very much for your interest!  Please feel free to contact me again
> if you have any additional questions.
> Kelly
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 23:02, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Kelly:
>>
>> Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and what
>> it
>> is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be curious to
>> know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and, if
>> so,
>> what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs
>> attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to know
>> some further information before we get behind a petition or campaign.
>>
>> Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM fields!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelly via
>> NABS-L
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:30 AM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Kelly <yllekann at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
>>
>>>> Hello, everyone,
>>>>>>     Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
>> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
>> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming), but
>> when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were dismayed
>> and
>> frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue,
>> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or
>> processed our email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough
>> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern
>> which
>> must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind and
>> visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the
>> Cozmo
>> application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so that
>> they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the
>> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for
>> all
>> children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by
>> clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into your
>> address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be kept
>> private and is only used by change.org .
>> https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce
>> ssible-to-all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>>>>>> Kelly
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From sheth.neel.s at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 02:38:07 2017
From: sheth.neel.s at gmail.com (Neel Sheth)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 22:38:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking Mac Users
In-Reply-To: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
References: <E545092E-7337-4B8A-9DCD-777D40E53FF0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B8BC426E-FF44-4154-8924-9EEBF20BDEFC@gmail.com>

I’ve been using a Mac for all of my college courses for the past two years. My phone number is 803-420-2354. 
> On Aug 22, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Students,
> A student has reached out seeking a blind Mac user to assist her in learning how to use the OS using Roice Over. If anyone would be able to take out a little time to teach this student over the phone, it would be greatly appreciated.
> Gratefully,
>   Syed Rizvi 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 03:02:20 2017
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 20:02:20 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CABS Membership Call Update
Message-ID: <CABP7S8NxLEqQgip_ocxcytcQ4EsNP5O5X-eYPwYhHHX3_W=nig@mail.gmail.com>

Hello fellow students!

Firstly, I'd like to apologize for the short notice. The California
Association of Blind Students will still be having our back-to-school
membership call. However, since the NABS membership call has been
scheduled for Sunday at 5:00 PM Pacific (8:00 PM Eastern), the date of
the CABS call has been necessarily changed. I apologize for my lack of
communication beforehand. In the future, I will be sure that this kind
of conflict does not happen. The new date is Sunday, September 03,
2017, and the time is still 5:00 PM Pacific. All are welcome, and the
discussion topics are still the same--anything and everything relevant
to the new school year, accommodations, etc. If you can't join us,
please share this page with your friends. Thank you for helping us
change what it means to be blind1

Date: Sunday, September 03, 2017
Time: 5:00 PST
Call-in Number: (515) 739-1031
Access code: 958093

https://www.facebook.com/events/723088997878220/

All the best,
Cricket X. Bidleman
Stanford University, Class of '21
NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer


From annajee82 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 03:26:31 2017
From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:26:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Mastering chemistry issues
Message-ID: <0236BF7A-95D2-468D-8861-279634D0803D@gmail.com>

There is a student who is looking for other users of the Mastering Chemistry online platform for general chemistry. He is using an iPad or Macbook and voiceover or zoom. I am unclear what the issue is but he wants to know of other students that are using it. If you are interested in sharing your experience let me know. Thanks much.

Anna E Givens

From yllekann at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 03:52:33 2017
From: yllekann at gmail.com (Kelly)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:52:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
In-Reply-To: <CAOrr3bMY9LSt1MpjvVFQEW5HAWooh7z5vV2VZrRN6S9mVtr6BQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2E206D5E-E5E7-4C2C-B131-D1D531671FC3@gmail.com>
	<1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>
	<07ce01d317ce$6848a710$38d9f530$@gmail.com>
	<1354395C-B416-4967-9D9D-B1CE347A6810@gmail.com>
	<CAOrr3bMY9LSt1MpjvVFQEW5HAWooh7z5vV2VZrRN6S9mVtr6BQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5F6D0076-A569-420B-BCF1-5B526052BD4B@gmail.com>

Hello, Vanna,
     My friends and I would be honored to have our project in your newsletter.  Thank you so much for your support!  Inclusion is what we are trying to achieve here, so this is an amazing opportunity.

     To what organization does the newsletter belong?  What is the next step?

Thank you once more for this opportunity!
Kelly

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 21:43, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kelly,
> 
> would you like your project to be featured in an issue of a biweekly
> newsletter of one of my former host organizations that deals with
> inclusion of all types including disability?
> 
> Vanna
> 
>> On 8/21/17, Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Chris:
>>     Based on Disney's Wallie, Cozmo is a small robot that resembles a model
>> car, with tank treads and a tiny, front-mounted forklift.
>>     Although it was originally designed as a STEM toy for young children,
>> its manufacturer (Anki), has recently expanded the product's capabilities.
>> Specifically, the Cozmo app now includes a code lab, which is used to
>> program the robot to talk, recognize faces, and search for and interact with
>> objects.  The code lab offers a simple introduction to programming, but the
>> real educational value is in Cozmo's SDK (software development kit).
>> Through the combined use of the app and SDK, students can learn and practice
>> the Python programming language.
>>     Since Cozmo is relatively new, there is not a lot of widespread
>> classroom use as of now.  However, several universities have begun to
>> integrate the robot into their computer science classes.
>>     Personally, I care about this issue because STEM learning robots are
>> the future of computer science education for students of all ages.  By
>> working to make this software accessible, we could set an example for other
>> companies now so that we can all use similar tools in the future.
>> Here is an article about Cozmo's SDK that you may find useful, as well as
>> Cozmo's home page:
>> 1.
>> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/version-1468272030-2/amp/
>> 2. https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your interest!  Please feel free to contact me again
>> if you have any additional questions.
>> Kelly
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 23:02, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kelly:
>>> 
>>> Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and what
>>> it
>>> is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be curious to
>>> know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and, if
>>> so,
>>> what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs
>>> attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to know
>>> some further information before we get behind a petition or campaign.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM fields!
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelly via
>>> NABS-L
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:30 AM
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Kelly <yllekann at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
>>> 
>>>>> Hello, everyone,
>>>>>>>    Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
>>> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
>>> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming), but
>>> when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were dismayed
>>> and
>>> frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue,
>>> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or
>>> processed our email.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough
>>> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern
>>> which
>>> must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind and
>>> visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the
>>> Cozmo
>>> application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so that
>>> they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the
>>> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for
>>> all
>>> children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by
>>> clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into your
>>> address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be kept
>>> private and is only used by change.org .
>>> https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce
>>> ssible-to-all
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>>>>>>> Kelly
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>> 
>>> 
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From truewise.8614 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 07:52:47 2017
From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:52:47 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
In-Reply-To: <5F6D0076-A569-420B-BCF1-5B526052BD4B@gmail.com>
References: <2E206D5E-E5E7-4C2C-B131-D1D531671FC3@gmail.com>
	<1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>
	<07ce01d317ce$6848a710$38d9f530$@gmail.com>
	<1354395C-B416-4967-9D9D-B1CE347A6810@gmail.com>
	<CAOrr3bMY9LSt1MpjvVFQEW5HAWooh7z5vV2VZrRN6S9mVtr6BQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5F6D0076-A569-420B-BCF1-5B526052BD4B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOrr3bPjq=OR-z_-Xj3VqpSjMd1wGdsTYxMkkaTp=4wT7N2Y6g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kelly,

The newsletter belongs to World Learning. One of their departments is
crafting and implementing a toolkit called TAAP. It stands for Transforming
Agency, Access, and Power. The toolkit aims to guide program developers on
integrating inclusion in to their programs. The next step, I will put you
in contact with my former supervisor. You can give her all the information
she and the others need.

Vanna

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:53 PM Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello, Vanna,
>      My friends and I would be honored to have our project in your
> newsletter.  Thank you so much for your support!  Inclusion is what we are
> trying to achieve here, so this is an amazing opportunity.
>
>      To what organization does the newsletter belong?  What is the next
> step?
>
> Thank you once more for this opportunity!
> Kelly
>
> > On Aug 22, 2017, at 21:43, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kelly,
> >
> > would you like your project to be featured in an issue of a biweekly
> > newsletter of one of my former host organizations that deals with
> > inclusion of all types including disability?
> >
> > Vanna
> >
> >> On 8/21/17, Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> Chris:
> >>     Based on Disney's Wallie, Cozmo is a small robot that resembles a
> model
> >> car, with tank treads and a tiny, front-mounted forklift.
> >>     Although it was originally designed as a STEM toy for young
> children,
> >> its manufacturer (Anki), has recently expanded the product's
> capabilities.
> >> Specifically, the Cozmo app now includes a code lab, which is used to
> >> program the robot to talk, recognize faces, and search for and interact
> with
> >> objects.  The code lab offers a simple introduction to programming, but
> the
> >> real educational value is in Cozmo's SDK (software development kit).
> >> Through the combined use of the app and SDK, students can learn and
> practice
> >> the Python programming language.
> >>     Since Cozmo is relatively new, there is not a lot of widespread
> >> classroom use as of now.  However, several universities have begun to
> >> integrate the robot into their computer science classes.
> >>     Personally, I care about this issue because STEM learning robots are
> >> the future of computer science education for students of all ages.  By
> >> working to make this software accessible, we could set an example for
> other
> >> companies now so that we can all use similar tools in the future.
> >> Here is an article about Cozmo's SDK that you may find useful, as well
> as
> >> Cozmo's home page:
> >> 1.
> >>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/version-1468272030-2/amp/
> >> 2. https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your interest!  Please feel free to contact me
> again
> >> if you have any additional questions.
> >> Kelly
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 23:02, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Kelly:
> >>>
> >>> Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and
> what
> >>> it
> >>> is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be curious
> to
> >>> know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and, if
> >>> so,
> >>> what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs
> >>> attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to
> know
> >>> some further information before we get behind a petition or campaign.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM
> fields!
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelly via
> >>> NABS-L
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:30 AM
> >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>> Cc: Kelly <yllekann at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
> >>>
> >>>>> Hello, everyone,
> >>>>>>>    Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
> >>> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
> >>> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming),
> but
> >>> when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were dismayed
> >>> and
> >>> frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue,
> >>> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or
> >>> processed our email.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough
> >>> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern
> >>> which
> >>> must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind and
> >>> visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the
> >>> Cozmo
> >>> application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so
> that
> >>> they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the
> >>> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for
> >>> all
> >>> children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by
> >>> clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into your
> >>> address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be kept
> >>> private and is only used by change.org .
> >>>
> https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce
> >>> ssible-to-all
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
> >>>>>>> Kelly
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> NABS-L mailing list
> >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> NABS-L:
> >>>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> NABS-L mailing list
> >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> NABS-L:
> >>>
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> >> NABS-L:
> >>
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> >>
> >
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From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 23 12:26:25 2017
From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Mastering chemistry issues
In-Reply-To: <0236BF7A-95D2-468D-8861-279634D0803D@gmail.com>
References: <0236BF7A-95D2-468D-8861-279634D0803D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3D4C2363-454C-4E6A-AC89-F14F1207E45D@yahoo.com>

Hi Anna, 

  I'm taking AP Chemistry, at my high school, this year. I think my peers use the Mastering Chemistry online textbook, but I have a paper Braille copy. I can't actually help with the online textbook, but maybe he and I could work on understanding the concepts together, if he wants.  

Blessings, 
Ahbee 

“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Anna Givens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> There is a student who is looking for other users of the Mastering Chemistry online platform for general chemistry. He is using an iPad or Macbook and voiceover or zoom. I am unclear what the issue is but he wants to know of other students that are using it. If you are interested in sharing your experience let me know. Thanks much.
> 
> Anna E Givens
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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 13:34:17 2017
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 06:34:17 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CABS Membership Call Update
Message-ID: <599d8463.59c8620a.f932c.64a6@mx.google.com>

HiCricket (or anyone else),

I haven't seen anywhing about the NABS membership call.  We had 
one last month and I thought they are every 2 months.  What is 
the topic?
Vejas


 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Cricket X.  Bidleman via NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 20:02:20 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CABS Membership Call Update

Hello fellow students!

Firstly, I'd like to apologize for the short notice.  The 
California
Association of Blind Students will still be having our 
back-to-school
membership call.  However, since the NABS membership call has 
been
scheduled for Sunday at 5:00 PM Pacific (8:00 PM Eastern), the 
date of
the CABS call has been necessarily changed.  I apologize for my 
lack of
communication beforehand.  In the future, I will be sure that 
this kind
of conflict does not happen.  The new date is Sunday, September 
03,
2017, and the time is still 5:00 PM Pacific.  All are welcome, 
and the
discussion topics are still the same--anything and everything 
relevant
to the new school year, accommodations, etc.  If you can't join 
us,
please share this page with your friends.  Thank you for helping 
us
change what it means to be blind1

Date: Sunday, September 03, 2017
Time: 5:00 PST
Call-in Number: (515) 739-1031
Access code: 958093

https://www.facebook.com/events/723088997878220/

All the best,
Cricket X.  Bidleman
Stanford University, Class of '21
NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer

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From annaalbury at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 14:09:08 2017
From: annaalbury at gmail.com (Anna)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:09:08 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS-L Digest, Vol Seeking Mac Users130, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1503489601.1076.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.27.1503489601.1076.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <E4B94A90-71F6-4CB3-B4F6-126D6724E369@gmail.com>



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 8:00 AM, nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org wrote:
> 
>  


From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 15:56:55 2017
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 08:56:55 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd:  Membership
In-Reply-To: <1A65DAE1-5F76-4F8B-B213-187ABAF0F265@gmail.com>
References: <1A65DAE1-5F76-4F8B-B213-187ABAF0F265@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP7S8Om7cXBwcUSnuNDtEHRh+xSniOG5FhRtt9gMwyORbuADQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vejas and all,

See below. I hope all of you can join us. Outreach is an essential
part of our movement, and so is membership.

Best,
Cricket X. Bidleman
Stanford University, Class of '21
NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tarik Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:37:16 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Membership
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Tarik Williams <williams.tarik20 at gmail.com>

Membership call


Hello all.

 I hope this email finds everyone well. On behalf of the student
division we all would like to formally invite you to the August
membership call. This call will take place on August 27 at 8 o'clock
Eastern standard time. On this membership call we will be talking to a
few different students about their motivation and how they have gotten
through different obstacles while working through their education.
We have all had different obstacles to climb over in our educational
careers. We will be hearing from different individuals and seeing how
they got through those obstacles and maintain their motivation.  I
hope to see you on the call!


The call information is

Call: 712-770-5197
Access code: 265669




All the best,

 Tarik Williams



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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 19:10:07 2017
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:10:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Calling all college students: free 9-month Aira
 subscription; just apply by Friday!
Message-ID: <026601d31c43$6fafb8d0$4f0f2a70$@gmail.com>

Fellow students:

 

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to receive free smart glasses, a
free 9-month subscription, 400 minutes a month, valued at more than $1,000.
We have opened this application up to all college students. Don't miss out!
You have until Friday, August 25. Brief application is below!

 

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6rdcdqc5JB1S4qNuI6F7GlGS1uvrlH1s9
h3VKBcO-YNg2eg/viewform

 

Good luck!

Kathryn C. Webster

President | National Association of Blind Students

(203) 273-8463

Nabs.president at gmail.com


From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 19:53:57 2017
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 12:53:57 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Calling all college students: free 9-month Aira
 subscription; just apply by Friday!
In-Reply-To: <026601d31c43$6fafb8d0$4f0f2a70$@gmail.com>
References: <026601d31c43$6fafb8d0$4f0f2a70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F3BE6E7C-92E5-46FC-A96A-ACB62148B124@gmail.com>

Hi Kathryn, 

When I tried clicking on the link, it said the file didn't exist. However, I found the link that works, so if anyone would like to or is interested in applying, here is the link below: 
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6rdcdqc5JB1S4qNuI6F7GlGS1uvrlH1s9h3VKBcO-YNg2eg/viewform

Best, 
Matthew Gip

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Fellow students:
> 
> 
> 
> This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to receive free smart glasses, a
> free 9-month subscription, 400 minutes a month, valued at more than $1,000.
> We have opened this application up to all college students. Don't miss out!
> You have until Friday, August 25. Brief application is below!
> 
> 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6rdcdqc5JB1S4qNuI6F7GlGS1uvrlH1s9
> h3VKBcO-YNg2eg/viewform
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Kathryn C. Webster
> 
> President | National Association of Blind Students
> 
> (203) 273-8463
> 
> Nabs.president at gmail.com
> 
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 19:55:35 2017
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:55:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Calling all college students: free 9-month Aira
 subscription; just apply by Friday!
In-Reply-To: <F3BE6E7C-92E5-46FC-A96A-ACB62148B124@gmail.com>
References: <026601d31c43$6fafb8d0$4f0f2a70$@gmail.com>
	<F3BE6E7C-92E5-46FC-A96A-ACB62148B124@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <029d01d31c49$c94a5ac0$5bdf1040$@gmail.com>

Thanks Matt! Not sure why the link is not working.

 

Kathryn

 

From: Matthew Gip [mailto:matthewhgip at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 3:54 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org; Kathryn Webster, NABS President <nabs.president at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Calling all college students: free 9-month Aira subscription; just apply by Friday!

 

Hi Kathryn, 

 

When I tried clicking on the link, it said the file didn't exist. However, I found the link that works, so if anyone would like to or is interested in applying, here is the link below: 

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6rdcdqc5JB1S4qNuI6F7GlGS1uvrlH1s9h3VKBcO-YNg2eg/viewform

 

Best, 

Matthew Gip

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 23, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

Fellow students:



This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to receive free smart glasses, a
free 9-month subscription, 400 minutes a month, valued at more than $1,000.
We have opened this application up to all college students. Don't miss out!
You have until Friday, August 25. Brief application is below!



https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6rdcdqc5JB1S4qNuI6F7GlGS1uvrlH1s9
h3VKBcO-YNg2eg/viewform



Good luck!

Kathryn C. Webster

President | National Association of Blind Students

(203) 273-8463

Nabs.president at gmail.com <mailto:Nabs.president at gmail.com> 

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From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 05:29:42 2017
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 01:29:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Corrected Link to AIRA Application
Message-ID: <003201d31c99$fdfc70f0$f9f552d0$@gmail.com>

Fellow NABSters:

 

After seeing some reports that the link in Kathryn's initial post about the
AIRA back-to-school program wasn't working, I gave it a try and found that
the URL was spread over 2 separate lines, making it unable to be clicked on.
So, try this link
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6rdcdqc5JB1S4qNuI6F7GlGS1uvrlH1s
9h3VKBcO-YNg2eg/viewform> , which should take you directly to the
application.

 

Good luck to all,

 

Chris Nusbaum, President

Maryland Association of Blind Students

Phone: (443) 547-2409

Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com

Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @MDABS_NFB

 

The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
blindness is not what holds you bak.

 


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 13:21:31 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 09:21:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Welcome Back to School
Message-ID: <599ed2f4.89afca0a.a34a2.3443@mx.google.com>

Welcome to the 2017 2018 schoolyear everyone.  I hope you are all 
well-rested and ready to help build the federation for another 
year.  How was your first day of school? Hope to hear from you 
soon.

Roanna Bacchus


From lily2011a at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 14:18:26 2017
From: lily2011a at gmail.com (lily2011a at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 10:18:26 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Corrected Link to AIRA Application
In-Reply-To: <003201d31c99$fdfc70f0$f9f552d0$@gmail.com>
References: <003201d31c99$fdfc70f0$f9f552d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1C0A9CBE-15DC-4164-8901-6389AAF8F686@gmail.com>

Hi unfortunately that link that you shared Chris is not working still. However, the link that Matthew shared previously did  work.
Thanks a bunch.
Liliya 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Fellow NABSters:
> 
> 
> 
> After seeing some reports that the link in Kathryn's initial post about the
> AIRA back-to-school program wasn't working, I gave it a try and found that
> the URL was spread over 2 separate lines, making it unable to be clicked on.
> So, try this link
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6rdcdqc5JB1S4qNuI6F7GlGS1uvrlH1s
> 9h3VKBcO-YNg2eg/viewform> , which should take you directly to the
> application.
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck to all,
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Nusbaum, President
> 
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> 
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
> 
> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com
> 
> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @MDABS_NFB
> 
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you bak.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From emitchell927 at icloud.com  Thu Aug 24 17:01:00 2017
From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 13:01:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] KnfbReader errors
Message-ID: <BEBD0768-B6C6-438C-ACA4-985D7A78131F@icloud.com>

Hi everyone 
Is there anyway to minimize errors within KnfbReader for an imported PDF from email from a professor or does KnfbReader have a bug that allows to many mistakes?

Sent from my iPhone

From carolinarose422 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 17:31:39 2017
From: carolinarose422 at gmail.com (Kiana Harlan)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 13:31:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Resume/Career Materials
Message-ID: <CAPL27qAECEgq+jOyGmgdXWRqsD9QfWEJGjEvEd0K-K8E-c15qg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,
I have recently started my senior internship. I will be taking on the
1-on-1 support section of one of the classes offered through my
agency. I'll be working on job skills, interviewing skills, resume
skills, etc. I was wondering if anyone had some good resources I could
use for this. I know all the stuff that needs to go into making a
resume, but I usually have to get help with the overall look of the
resume. Are there any guides on how to get the resume format when you
can't see it to know if everything is lined up correctly?
Any tips would be helpful!

Best,
Kiana


From alliefa1999 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 20:20:53 2017
From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 16:20:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Welcome Back to School
In-Reply-To: <599ed2f4.89afca0a.a34a2.3443@mx.google.com>
References: <599ed2f4.89afca0a.a34a2.3443@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAO84cXrKbFs+gA=YJrkX1V-KPJWBnMzUhxYo4M5Wj6xuUcvFbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
My first day of school was great. We moved into a new, muce nicer
build+ with a very large theatle.

On 8/24/17, roanna bacchus via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Welcome to the 2017 2018 schoolyear everyone.  I hope you are all
> well-rested and ready to help build the federation for another
> year.  How was your first day of school? Hope to hear from you
> soon.
>
> Roanna Bacchus
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 25 00:19:56 2017
From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:19:56 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Typing info into Google Sheets using iPad
Message-ID: <8BDBF6A6-4F5B-48B3-A1B2-7CCB8A4363F1@yahoo.com>

Hi All, 

  I have to create a digital graph for my AP Chemistry class. I have already started that spreadsheet, but now, I have no idea how to type in my information using my iPad. Does anyone know how this would work? Thank you! 

Blessings, 
Ahbee 

“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬

From ignasicambra at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 00:56:16 2017
From: ignasicambra at gmail.com (Ignasi Cambra)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 02:56:16 +0200
Subject: [nabs-l] GMAT accommodations
Message-ID: <9B26520F-9527-4C5F-B84B-ECF67A9F1A8A@gmail.com>

Hello all,
I am thinking of taking the GMAT. After looking at their website I see that they provide lots of information on requesting accommodations, but I wanted to ask about everyone’s experience with the exam? How do blind people usually take it? Is their computer- adaptive exam accessible? If it isn’t which format can they provide for blind test takers? Will I be able to use a computer to read and answer questions?
I know this subject has been discussed in the past, so I apologize for bringing it up again.
Best,

IC

From truewise.8614 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 01:18:17 2017
From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 18:18:17 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Welcome Back to School
In-Reply-To: <CAO84cXrKbFs+gA=YJrkX1V-KPJWBnMzUhxYo4M5Wj6xuUcvFbQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <599ed2f4.89afca0a.a34a2.3443@mx.google.com>
	<CAO84cXrKbFs+gA=YJrkX1V-KPJWBnMzUhxYo4M5Wj6xuUcvFbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOrr3bNce+PoxFNcJ2Br0Fbk7BmCCrXBMmGe0rcEgDs7vbJxFA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I don't start graduate school until the 27th of next month. I did get
to tour my new apt yesterday though. It's a couple blocks from the
University of Washington campus. I move in September 10.

On 8/24/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello,
> My first day of school was great. We moved into a new, muce nicer
> build+ with a very large theatle.
>
> On 8/24/17, roanna bacchus via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Welcome to the 2017 2018 schoolyear everyone.  I hope you are all
>> well-rested and ready to help build the federation for another
>> year.  How was your first day of school? Hope to hear from you
>> soon.
>>
>> Roanna Bacchus
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 25 03:27:09 2017
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:27:09 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] mind tap system
Message-ID: <001801d31d52$098ee5c0$1cacb140$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,
 
It seems instructors are trying something new this semester called mindtap
from cengage.com.
It is a way to perform virtual labs or assignments and be auto graded.
Has anyone had to use this system?
It appears to run in explorer/firefox but the menus are eliminated.
Bryan
 

From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 03:30:45 2017
From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:30:45 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] mind tap system
In-Reply-To: <001801d31d52$098ee5c0$1cacb140$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <001801d31d52$098ee5c0$1cacb140$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <059801d31d52$8b52f5b0$a1f8e110$@gmail.com>

I did, this past term, and found it quite difficult to navigate.
Unfortunately, the college couldn't do much about that for me; the college
is going to a new platform beginning this month and they're allowing me to
test it with Jaws before I take the class again.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
via NABS-L
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:27 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [nabs-l] mind tap system

Hi,
 
It seems instructors are trying something new this semester called mindtap
from cengage.com.
It is a way to perform virtual labs or assignments and be auto graded.
Has anyone had to use this system?
It appears to run in explorer/firefox but the menus are eliminated.
Bryan
 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 25 04:17:55 2017
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 23:17:55 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] mind tap system
In-Reply-To: <059801d31d52$8b52f5b0$a1f8e110$@gmail.com>
References: <001801d31d52$098ee5c0$1cacb140$@sbcglobal.net>
	<059801d31d52$8b52f5b0$a1f8e110$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01d31d59$20e4b270$62ae1750$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,

Agreed one class was easy to register and for another class, the page locks
up after landing in the alias textbox.
I'll get more into it next week.
Bryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Cory McMahon [mailto:cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:31 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: 'Bryan Schulz'
Subject: RE: [nabs-l] mind tap system

I did, this past term, and found it quite difficult to navigate.
Unfortunately, the college couldn't do much about that for me; the college
is going to a new platform beginning this month and they're allowing me to
test it with Jaws before I take the class again.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
via NABS-L
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:27 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [nabs-l] mind tap system

Hi,
 
It seems instructors are trying something new this semester called mindtap
from cengage.com.
It is a way to perform virtual labs or assignments and be auto graded.
Has anyone had to use this system?
It appears to run in explorer/firefox but the menus are eliminated.
Bryan
 
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From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 04:43:51 2017
From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 23:43:51 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] mind tap system
In-Reply-To: <001d01d31d59$20e4b270$62ae1750$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <001801d31d52$098ee5c0$1cacb140$@sbcglobal.net>
	<059801d31d52$8b52f5b0$a1f8e110$@gmail.com>
	<001d01d31d59$20e4b270$62ae1750$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <05a401d31d5c$c06b4a90$4141dfb0$@gmail.com>

OK. Let me know what your additional experience is.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Schulz [mailto:b.schulz at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:18 PM
To: 'Cory McMahon' <cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com>; 'National Association of
Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: RE: [nabs-l] mind tap system

Hi,

Agreed one class was easy to register and for another class, the page locks
up after landing in the alias textbox.
I'll get more into it next week.
Bryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Cory McMahon [mailto:cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:31 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: 'Bryan Schulz'
Subject: RE: [nabs-l] mind tap system

I did, this past term, and found it quite difficult to navigate.
Unfortunately, the college couldn't do much about that for me; the college
is going to a new platform beginning this month and they're allowing me to
test it with Jaws before I take the class again.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
via NABS-L
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:27 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [nabs-l] mind tap system

Hi,
 
It seems instructors are trying something new this semester called mindtap
from cengage.com.
It is a way to perform virtual labs or assignments and be auto graded.
Has anyone had to use this system?
It appears to run in explorer/firefox but the menus are eliminated.
Bryan
 
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 12:12:54 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 08:12:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Resume/Career Materials
In-Reply-To: <CAPL27qAECEgq+jOyGmgdXWRqsD9QfWEJGjEvEd0K-K8E-c15qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPL27qAECEgq+jOyGmgdXWRqsD9QfWEJGjEvEd0K-K8E-c15qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85B65FBD-713C-4CEE-A4FB-038A948576AD@gmail.com>

The Hadley school for the blind provides helpful resources for this

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Kiana Harlan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I have recently started my senior internship. I will be taking on the
> 1-on-1 support section of one of the classes offered through my
> agency. I'll be working on job skills, interviewing skills, resume
> skills, etc. I was wondering if anyone had some good resources I could
> use for this. I know all the stuff that needs to go into making a
> resume, but I usually have to get help with the overall look of the
> resume. Are there any guides on how to get the resume format when you
> can't see it to know if everything is lined up correctly?
> Any tips would be helpful!
> 
> Best,
> Kiana
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From yllekann at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 23:18:20 2017
From: yllekann at gmail.com (Kelly Cusack)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 19:18:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
Message-ID: <59a0b052.8bcf370a.533f7.1931@mx.google.com>

Hi again, Vanna,

     Sorry for the delay; it took a while to reach everyone involved with the project.  We all think this is a great opportunity, and we are ready to proceed.

Thank you again,
Kelly

On Aug 23, 2017 3:52 AM, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Kelly, 
>
> The newsletter belongs to World Learning. One of their departments is 
> crafting and implementing a toolkit called TAAP. It stands for Transforming 
> Agency, Access, and Power. The toolkit aims to guide program developers on 
> integrating inclusion in to their programs. The next step, I will put you 
> in contact with my former supervisor. You can give her all the information 
> she and the others need. 
>
> Vanna 
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:53 PM Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: 
>
> > Hello, Vanna, 
> >      My friends and I would be honored to have our project in your 
> > newsletter.  Thank you so much for your support!  Inclusion is what we are 
> > trying to achieve here, so this is an amazing opportunity. 
> > 
> >      To what organization does the newsletter belong?  What is the next 
> > step? 
> > 
> > Thank you once more for this opportunity! 
> > Kelly 
> > 
> > > On Aug 22, 2017, at 21:43, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
> > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hi Kelly, 
> > > 
> > > would you like your project to be featured in an issue of a biweekly 
> > > newsletter of one of my former host organizations that deals with 
> > > inclusion of all types including disability? 
> > > 
> > > Vanna 
> > > 
> > >> On 8/21/17, Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: 
> > >> Chris: 
> > >>     Based on Disney's Wallie, Cozmo is a small robot that resembles a 
> > model 
> > >> car, with tank treads and a tiny, front-mounted forklift. 
> > >>     Although it was originally designed as a STEM toy for young 
> > children, 
> > >> its manufacturer (Anki), has recently expanded the product's 
> > capabilities. 
> > >> Specifically, the Cozmo app now includes a code lab, which is used to 
> > >> program the robot to talk, recognize faces, and search for and interact 
> > with 
> > >> objects.  The code lab offers a simple introduction to programming, but 
> > the 
> > >> real educational value is in Cozmo's SDK (software development kit). 
> > >> Through the combined use of the app and SDK, students can learn and 
> > practice 
> > >> the Python programming language. 
> > >>     Since Cozmo is relatively new, there is not a lot of widespread 
> > >> classroom use as of now.  However, several universities have begun to 
> > >> integrate the robot into their computer science classes. 
> > >>     Personally, I care about this issue because STEM learning robots are 
> > >> the future of computer science education for students of all ages.  By 
> > >> working to make this software accessible, we could set an example for 
> > other 
> > >> companies now so that we can all use similar tools in the future. 
> > >> Here is an article about Cozmo's SDK that you may find useful, as well 
> > as 
> > >> Cozmo's home page: 
> > >> 1. 
> > >> 
> > https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/version-1468272030-2/amp/ 
> > >> 2. https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo 
> > >> 
> > >> Thank you very much for your interest!  Please feel free to contact me 
> > again 
> > >> if you have any additional questions. 
> > >> Kelly 
> > >> Sent from my iPhone 
> > >> 
> > >>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 23:02, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org 
> > > 
> > >>> wrote: 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Kelly: 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and 
> > what 
> > >>> it 
> > >>> is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be curious 
> > to 
> > >>> know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and, if 
> > >>> so, 
> > >>> what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs 
> > >>> attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to 
> > know 
> > >>> some further information before we get behind a petition or campaign. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM 
> > fields! 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Chris 
> > >>> 
> > >>> -----Original Message----- 
> > >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelly via 
> > >>> NABS-L 
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:30 AM 
> > >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org 
> > >>> Cc: Kelly <yllekann at gmail.com> 
> > >>> Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project 
> > >>> 
> > >>>>> Hello, everyone, 
> > >>>>>>>    Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer 
> > >>> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>    We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with 
> > >>> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming), 
> > but 
> > >>> when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were dismayed 
> > >>> and 
> > >>> frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>    We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue, 
> > >>> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or 
> > >>> processed our email. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>    So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough 
> > >>> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern 
> > >>> which 
> > >>> must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind and 
> > >>> visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the 
> > >>> Cozmo 
> > >>> application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so 
> > that 
> > >>> they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>    If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the 
> > >>> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for 
> > >>> all 
> > >>> children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by 
> > >>> clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into your 
> > >>> address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be kept 
> > >>> private and is only used by change.org . 
> > >>> 
> > https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce 
> > >>> ssible-to-all 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project! 
> > >>>>>>> Kelly 
> > >>> _______________________________________________ 
> > >>> NABS-L mailing list 
> > >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org 
> > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org 
> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > >>> NABS-L: 
> > >>> 
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> _______________________________________________ 
> > >>> NABS-L mailing list 
> > >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org 
> > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org 
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> > >>> NABS-L: 
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From truewise.8614 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 23:46:35 2017
From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:46:35 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
In-Reply-To: <59a0b052.8bcf370a.533f7.1931@mx.google.com>
References: <59a0b052.8bcf370a.533f7.1931@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAOrr3bNFsXDeTNvApqN2Nvdcn-TazbhTtAFbyTk11nmZWazysw@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/25/17, Kelly Cusack via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi again, Vanna,
>
>      Sorry for the delay; it took a while to reach everyone involved with
> the project.  We all think this is a great opportunity, and we are ready to
> proceed.
>
> Thank you again,
> Kelly
>
> On Aug 23, 2017 3:52 AM, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kelly,
>>
>> The newsletter belongs to World Learning. One of their departments is
>> crafting and implementing a toolkit called TAAP. It stands for
>> Transforming
>> Agency, Access, and Power. The toolkit aims to guide program developers on
>>
>> integrating inclusion in to their programs. The next step, I will put you
>> in contact with my former supervisor. You can give her all the information
>>
>> she and the others need.
>>
>> Vanna
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:53 PM Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello, Vanna,
>> >      My friends and I would be honored to have our project in your
>> > newsletter.  Thank you so much for your support!  Inclusion is what we
>> > are
>> > trying to achieve here, so this is an amazing opportunity.
>> >
>> >      To what organization does the newsletter belong?  What is the next
>> > step?
>> >
>> > Thank you once more for this opportunity!
>> > Kelly
>> >
>> > > On Aug 22, 2017, at 21:43, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Kelly,
>> > >
>> > > would you like your project to be featured in an issue of a biweekly
>> > > newsletter of one of my former host organizations that deals with
>> > > inclusion of all types including disability?
>> > >
>> > > Vanna
>> > >
>> > >> On 8/21/17, Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > >> Chris:
>> > >>     Based on Disney's Wallie, Cozmo is a small robot that resembles a
>> > >>
>> > model
>> > >> car, with tank treads and a tiny, front-mounted forklift.
>> > >>     Although it was originally designed as a STEM toy for young
>> > children,
>> > >> its manufacturer (Anki), has recently expanded the product's
>> > capabilities.
>> > >> Specifically, the Cozmo app now includes a code lab, which is used to
>> > >>
>> > >> program the robot to talk, recognize faces, and search for and
>> > >> interact
>> > with
>> > >> objects.  The code lab offers a simple introduction to programming,
>> > >> but
>> > the
>> > >> real educational value is in Cozmo's SDK (software development kit).
>> > >> Through the combined use of the app and SDK, students can learn and
>> > practice
>> > >> the Python programming language.
>> > >>     Since Cozmo is relatively new, there is not a lot of widespread
>> > >> classroom use as of now.  However, several universities have begun to
>> > >>
>> > >> integrate the robot into their computer science classes.
>> > >>     Personally, I care about this issue because STEM learning robots
>> > >> are
>> > >> the future of computer science education for students of all ages.
>> > >> By
>> > >> working to make this software accessible, we could set an example for
>> > >>
>> > other
>> > >> companies now so that we can all use similar tools in the future.
>> > >> Here is an article about Cozmo's SDK that you may find useful, as
>> > >> well
>> > as
>> > >> Cozmo's home page:
>> > >> 1.
>> > >>
>> > https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/version-1468272030-2/amp/
>> >
>> > >> 2. https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you very much for your interest!  Please feel free to contact
>> > >> me
>> > again
>> > >> if you have any additional questions.
>> > >> Kelly
>> > >> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 23:02, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>> > >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Kelly:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and
>> > >>>
>> > what
>> > >>> it
>> > >>> is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be
>> > >>> curious
>> > to
>> > >>> know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and,
>> > >>> if
>> > >>> so,
>> > >>> what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs
>> > >>>
>> > >>> attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to
>> > know
>> > >>> some further information before we get behind a petition or
>> > >>> campaign.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM
>> > fields!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Chris
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelly
>> > >>> via
>> > >>> NABS-L
>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:30 AM
>> > >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > >>> Cc: Kelly <yllekann at gmail.com>
>> > >>> Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>> Hello, everyone,
>> > >>>>>>>    Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
>> > >>> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming),
>> > >>>
>> > but
>> > >>> when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were
>> > >>> dismayed
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the
>> > >>>>>>> issue,
>> > >>> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read
>> > >>> or
>> > >>> processed our email.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather
>> > >>>>>>> enough
>> > >>> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern
>> > >>>
>> > >>> which
>> > >>> must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Cozmo
>> > >>> application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so
>> > that
>> > >>> they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for
>> > >>>>>>> the
>> > >>> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> all
>> > >>> children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by
>> > >>>
>> > >>> clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into
>> > >>> your
>> > >>> address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be
>> > >>> kept
>> > >>> private and is only used by change.org .
>> > >>>
>> > https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce
>> >
>> > >>> ssible-to-all
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>> > >>>>>>> Kelly
>> > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>> NABS-L mailing list
>> > >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> NABS-L:
>> > >>>
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>> NABS-L mailing list
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>> > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> NABS-L:
>> > >>>
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/yllekann%40gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> NABS-L mailing list
>> > >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> > >>
>> > >> NABS-L:
>> > >>
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>> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> >
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>> >
>> >
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From truewise.8614 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 23:48:35 2017
From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:48:35 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
In-Reply-To: <59a0b052.8bcf370a.533f7.1931@mx.google.com>
References: <59a0b052.8bcf370a.533f7.1931@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAOrr3bO1hgVb9bXmBHeBGuD+O_2x6dpKSgnVMoE9=+4XzDfSYw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kelly,

I have forwarded your email to her, however, she is out of the office
until next Tuesday. If you would like to reach her yourself, her email
is amy.ried at worldlearning.org.

Vanna

On 8/25/17, Kelly Cusack via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi again, Vanna,
>
>      Sorry for the delay; it took a while to reach everyone involved with
> the project.  We all think this is a great opportunity, and we are ready to
> proceed.
>
> Thank you again,
> Kelly
>
> On Aug 23, 2017 3:52 AM, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kelly,
>>
>> The newsletter belongs to World Learning. One of their departments is
>> crafting and implementing a toolkit called TAAP. It stands for
>> Transforming
>> Agency, Access, and Power. The toolkit aims to guide program developers on
>>
>> integrating inclusion in to their programs. The next step, I will put you
>> in contact with my former supervisor. You can give her all the information
>>
>> she and the others need.
>>
>> Vanna
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:53 PM Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello, Vanna,
>> >      My friends and I would be honored to have our project in your
>> > newsletter.  Thank you so much for your support!  Inclusion is what we
>> > are
>> > trying to achieve here, so this is an amazing opportunity.
>> >
>> >      To what organization does the newsletter belong?  What is the next
>> > step?
>> >
>> > Thank you once more for this opportunity!
>> > Kelly
>> >
>> > > On Aug 22, 2017, at 21:43, Vanna Song via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Kelly,
>> > >
>> > > would you like your project to be featured in an issue of a biweekly
>> > > newsletter of one of my former host organizations that deals with
>> > > inclusion of all types including disability?
>> > >
>> > > Vanna
>> > >
>> > >> On 8/21/17, Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > >> Chris:
>> > >>     Based on Disney's Wallie, Cozmo is a small robot that resembles a
>> > >>
>> > model
>> > >> car, with tank treads and a tiny, front-mounted forklift.
>> > >>     Although it was originally designed as a STEM toy for young
>> > children,
>> > >> its manufacturer (Anki), has recently expanded the product's
>> > capabilities.
>> > >> Specifically, the Cozmo app now includes a code lab, which is used to
>> > >>
>> > >> program the robot to talk, recognize faces, and search for and
>> > >> interact
>> > with
>> > >> objects.  The code lab offers a simple introduction to programming,
>> > >> but
>> > the
>> > >> real educational value is in Cozmo's SDK (software development kit).
>> > >> Through the combined use of the app and SDK, students can learn and
>> > practice
>> > >> the Python programming language.
>> > >>     Since Cozmo is relatively new, there is not a lot of widespread
>> > >> classroom use as of now.  However, several universities have begun to
>> > >>
>> > >> integrate the robot into their computer science classes.
>> > >>     Personally, I care about this issue because STEM learning robots
>> > >> are
>> > >> the future of computer science education for students of all ages.
>> > >> By
>> > >> working to make this software accessible, we could set an example for
>> > >>
>> > other
>> > >> companies now so that we can all use similar tools in the future.
>> > >> Here is an article about Cozmo's SDK that you may find useful, as
>> > >> well
>> > as
>> > >> Cozmo's home page:
>> > >> 1.
>> > >>
>> > https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/version-1468272030-2/amp/
>> >
>> > >> 2. https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you very much for your interest!  Please feel free to contact
>> > >> me
>> > again
>> > >> if you have any additional questions.
>> > >> Kelly
>> > >> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 23:02, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>> > >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Kelly:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Could you tell us a little more about what this Cosmo Robot does and
>> > >>>
>> > what
>> > >>> it
>> > >>> is used for in the context of STEM education? I would also be
>> > >>> curious
>> > to
>> > >>> know if anyone has actually used this program in the classroom and,
>> > >>> if
>> > >>> so,
>> > >>> what experiences you have had. Perhaps this is something which needs
>> > >>>
>> > >>> attention from NABS or the Federation, but I think we would need to
>> > know
>> > >>> some further information before we get behind a petition or
>> > >>> campaign.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thank you for your efforts to increase accessibility in the STEM
>> > fields!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Chris
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelly
>> > >>> via
>> > >>> NABS-L
>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:30 AM
>> > >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > >>> Cc: Kelly <yllekann at gmail.com>
>> > >>> Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>> Hello, everyone,
>> > >>>>>>>    Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
>> > >>> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming),
>> > >>>
>> > but
>> > >>> when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were
>> > >>> dismayed
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with VoiceOver.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the
>> > >>>>>>> issue,
>> > >>> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read
>> > >>> or
>> > >>> processed our email.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather
>> > >>>>>>> enough
>> > >>> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern
>> > >>>
>> > >>> which
>> > >>> must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from the
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Cozmo
>> > >>> application and others like it, but also for all app developers, so
>> > that
>> > >>> they may understand the barriers created by inaccessible software.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>    If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for
>> > >>>>>>> the
>> > >>> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> all
>> > >>> children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition by
>> > >>>
>> > >>> clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into
>> > >>> your
>> > >>> address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be
>> > >>> kept
>> > >>> private and is only used by change.org .
>> > >>>
>> > https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-acce
>> >
>> > >>> ssible-to-all
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>> > >>>>>>> Kelly
>> > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>> NABS-L mailing list
>> > >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> NABS-L:
>> > >>>
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>> NABS-L mailing list
>> > >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> NABS-L:
>> > >>>
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/yllekann%40gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> _______________________________________________
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>> > >>
>> > >> NABS-L:
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>> >
>> > >>
>> > >
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 26 20:26:25 2017
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,
 
I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.
 
Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
 
The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.
 
Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
 
Thanks,
Bryan
 

From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 20:59:30 2017
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:59:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <59a1e158.a828c80a.e97f0.9d23@mx.google.com>

It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or 
to teach you how to use course management systems.  Suing the 
college because an instructor doesn't do something that they know 
nothing about and that is not part of their job is completely 
inappropriate.  You need to contact your school's IT department 
if you're having trouble with technology, and they may well end 
up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and the 
other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns 
out the system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for 
an accommodation like submitting your work through e-mail or 
having a reader help you with the system.

HTH,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,

I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.

Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are 
mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the 
assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!

The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class 
starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using 
jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get 
behind from day
one.

Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have 
provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in 
mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of 
assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course 
can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try 
another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.

Thanks,
Bryan

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From kc9cpx at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 21:40:37 2017
From: kc9cpx at gmail.com (Kc9cpx)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:40:37 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B@gmail.com>

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 21:51:00 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:51:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B@gmail.com>
References: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
	<91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user. 
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
> from day one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 21:53:28 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:53:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <59a1e158.a828c80a.e97f0.9d23@mx.google.com>
References: <59a1e158.a828c80a.e97f0.9d23@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01d31eb5$c0be30c0$423a9240$@gmail.com>

Not sure how much of a law suit that is.  Did it affect yoru grade?  You may
have an argument to be able to take the course over or something, or redo
assignments.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
Adam via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or to teach
you how to use course management systems.  Suing the college because an
instructor doesn't do something that they know nothing about and that is not
part of their job is completely inappropriate.  You need to contact your
school's IT department if you're having trouble with technology, and they
may well end up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and
the other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns out the
system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for an accommodation
like submitting your work through e-mail or having a reader help you with
the system.

HTH,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,

I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.

Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!

The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.

Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.

Thanks,
Bryan

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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 21:57:23 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:57:23 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <010201d31eb6$4cd3b3a0$e67b1ae0$@gmail.com>

As long as you put forth the effort, then someone should meet you where you
faulter.  It doen't matter who, just as long as you have equal access.
Trying to learn a totally new system on the fly is difficult while trying to
get college work done.  Unless my professor agreed to show me the blackboard
system, I'd have set up an appointment with the office of student
disabilities because their job is accommodations and accessibility.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,
 
I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.
 
Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
 
The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.
 
Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
 
Thanks,
Bryan
 
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From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 00:20:57 2017
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:20:57 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] A Special Thank You Note
Message-ID: <CBD809DC-3A51-41A7-B2D8-3AD2BD010E1A@gmail.com>

Hello students! 

As many of you are aware, being involved with outreach and recruitment can be difficult, and at times, it can even be a little bit stressful. However, when goals are met, there is a satisfying feeling inside of you that makes you feel wonderful. The California Association of Blind Students has been heading in the positive direction in building and increasing membership as of late in helping to make our student division even stronger. I am pleased to share with you all and announce that the CABS Twitter page just recently reached 100 followers! I would like to thank Carla Scroggins and Cricket Bidleman for giving me the privilege on assisting them with the social media pages. Although, this is just the beginning... The movement of expanding our division will continue in the right direction. Thank you to all of you for helping to support the California Association of Blind Students snd together, let's continue building the Federation! 
If you hadn't already followed our Twitter page, our Twitter handle is @NFB_CABS and the link is below where you can find all the latest news, updates, and important information regarding CABS. 
https://mobile.twitter.com/NFB_CABS

Best regards, 
Matthew Gip

Sent from my iPad

From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 27 01:30:02 2017
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 21:30:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>
References: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net><91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B@gmail.com>
	<00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67@OwnerPC>

Exactly my sentaments too.
Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and 
teach students how to use it.
Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to 
click on and go step by step.
If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor 
or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for 
you to complete your work.
Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think 
all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what 
to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and 
puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some 
professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just 
have a course documents folder.
So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You 
cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step 
instructions.
If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to 
assist. Go to  office hours.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: Justin Williams
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
>
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind
> from day one.
>
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
> _______________________________________________
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From sweetpeareader at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 04:22:58 2017
From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (sophie trist)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 23:22:58 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote Touch?
Message-ID: <59a2492b.2922c80a.87ce6.dcf1@mx.google.com>

Hello NABS Friends,

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Kindle app on the BrailleNote Touch. I just got my BN Touch a few weeks ago, and some of my school books are on Kindle. When I'm reading in the Kindle app, and also when I'm looking at PDF's on the Touch, it only displays one page at a time. This makes reading using the app very awkward and clunky, much less than on the iPhone, which flips pages automatically. Is there an easy way to flip pages, or to just read continuously using the BN Touch? Any help will be appreciated.

Best wishes,
Sophie

From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 13:56:19 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 09:56:19 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67@OwnerPC>
References: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net><91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B@gmail.com>	<00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>
	<EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <019d01d31f3c$42aba3c0$c802eb40$@gmail.com>

Godo point, I have been in classes where professors do show that, I didn't
even think of that aspect, but you are right.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:30 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Exactly my sentaments too.
Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and
teach students how to use it.
Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to
click on and go step by step.
If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor
or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for
you to complete your work.
Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think
all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what
to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and
puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some
professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just
have a course documents folder.
So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You
cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step
instructions.
If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to
assist. Go to  office hours.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: Justin Williams
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
>
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
> from day one.
>
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 13:56:56 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 09:56:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67@OwnerPC>
References: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net><91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B@gmail.com>	<00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>
	<EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67@OwnerPC>
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They probably don't have to do that for the students, but if they get ti,
then the student who is blind definitely should.  
Justin

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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Exactly my sentaments too.
Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and
teach students how to use it.
Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to
click on and go step by step.
If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor
or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for
you to complete your work.
Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think
all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what
to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and
puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some
professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just
have a course documents folder.
So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You
cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step
instructions.
If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to
assist. Go to  office hours.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: Justin Williams
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
Justin

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NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
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Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
>
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
> from day one.
>
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
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From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 14:42:33 2017
From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 10:42:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <59a2da68.d4c9370a.d4019.e4f1@mx.google.com>

Hi Brian,

I'm not an expert on this matter at all, but it sounds to me like 
the only reasons you should file a lawsuit against your college 
is if they repeatedly
fail to follow the law, as Justin said.  That is to say, all 
colleges are required by the ADA and other laws to provide 
students with disabilities with all the necessary accommodations, 
either that the student requests (in most instances) or that the 
college deems appropriate to match the student's needs.  If a 
school fails to do so and keeps denying a student with 
disabilities their requested accommodations, then they're 
essentially violating the law in this case.  If this happens only 
one time, then you should probably first either have an in-person 
meeting with Disability Services/the professor, or send them an 
email, to try to figure out exactly why your accommodation 
requests have been denied.  If that doesn't work, I believe you 
can file a complaint with the school's Office of Complaints (I do 
apologize if I messed up the name, I do o it was mentioned on 
here but I don't remember it) (you can also get the NFB involved 
if you want),  and if that still doesn't make your case, then 
that's probably when I would file a lawsuit against the college.

I personally wouldn't file one, though, because I go to a great 
school with excellent professors and Disability Services, who 
always do their best to make sure they accommodate me, given the 
fact that they've had experience working with many other blind 
students in the past.  However, I do have a blind friend who is a 
Music Ed major, who goes to a different college in NY, and he 
actually had to file a lawsuit against his school because they 
denied him accommodations.

I hope this helps, and I hope you can get your situation resolved 
quickly.

Thanks,

Sami
 ----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 09:56:56 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

They probably don't have to do that for the students, but if they 
get ti,
then the student who is blind definitely should.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Ashley Bramlett
via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:30 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Exactly my sentaments too.
Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible 
platform and
teach students how to use it.
Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show 
them what to
click on and go step by step.
If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your 
professor
or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be 
made for
you to complete your work.
Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan.  
I  think
all students, but particularly blind students, need to 
instruction in what
to do on blackboard.  Its difficult because every professor is 
different and
puts different assignments in different folders.  For instance, 
some
professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and 
others just
have a course documents folder.
So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are 
looking for.
Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over 
it.  You
cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by 
step
instructions.
If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's 
responsibility to
assist.  Go to  office hours.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: Justin Williams
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in 
the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, 
but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the 
office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a 
rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, 
which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Kc9cpx via
NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit.  Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist 
those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a 
college.
 That would be lawsuit.

 Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are 
mildly
 accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the 
assignments and
 quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!

 The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with 
jaws
 after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight 
week
class.
 When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class 
starts
 on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using 
jaws
 to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get 
behind
 from day one.

 Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have 
provided a
 crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around 
in
mindtap.
 One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of 
assignments
 and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course 
can't
 even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor 
saying
 try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your 
computer.

 Thanks,
 Bryan

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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 27 14:59:05 2017
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 09:59:05 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS-L Digest, Vol 130, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1503835202.30019.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.21.1503835202.30019.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <003701d31f45$08e116d0$1aa34470$@sbcglobal.net>

hi,
I am catching this in digest mode.
thanks for your comments.

carl,
I wasn't complaining about the instructor providing training, the issue was
being a prick and saying figure it out for yourself and the special software
not being accessible!
Bryan


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   2. Re: A H instructor (Karl Martin Adam)
   3. Re: A H instructor (Kc9cpx)
   4. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
   5. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
   6. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
   7. A Special Thank You Note (Matthew Gip)
   8. Re: A H instructor (Ashley Bramlett)
   9. Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote Touch?
      (sophie trist)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi,
 
I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.
 
Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
 
The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.
 
Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
 
Thanks,
Bryan
 


------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:59:30 -0400
From: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <59a1e158.a828c80a.e97f0.9d23 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or 
to teach you how to use course management systems.  Suing the 
college because an instructor doesn't do something that they know 
nothing about and that is not part of their job is completely 
inappropriate.  You need to contact your school's IT department 
if you're having trouble with technology, and they may well end 
up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and the 
other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns 
out the system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for 
an accommodation like submitting your work through e-mail or 
having a reader help you with the system.

HTH,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,

I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.

Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are 
mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the 
assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!

The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class 
starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using 
jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get 
behind from day
one.

Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have 
provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in 
mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of 
assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course 
can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try 
another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:40:37 -0500
From: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after
you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from
day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:51:00 -0400
From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user. 
Justin

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
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Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
> from day one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:53:28 -0400
From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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Not sure how much of a law suit that is.  Did it affect yoru grade?  You may
have an argument to be able to take the course over or something, or redo
assignments.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
Adam via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or to teach
you how to use course management systems.  Suing the college because an
instructor doesn't do something that they know nothing about and that is not
part of their job is completely inappropriate.  You need to contact your
school's IT department if you're having trouble with technology, and they
may well end up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and
the other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns out the
system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for an accommodation
like submitting your work through e-mail or having a reader help you with
the system.

HTH,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,

I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.

Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!

The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.

Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:57:23 -0400
From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

As long as you put forth the effort, then someone should meet you where you
faulter.  It doen't matter who, just as long as you have equal access.
Trying to learn a totally new system on the fly is difficult while trying to
get college work done.  Unless my professor agreed to show me the blackboard
system, I'd have set up an appointment with the office of student
disabilities because their job is accommodations and accessibility.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
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via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,
 
I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.
 
Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
 
The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.
 
Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
 
Thanks,
Bryan
 
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:20:57 -0700
From: Matthew Gip <matthewhgip at gmail.com>
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] A Special Thank You Note
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Hello students! 

As many of you are aware, being involved with outreach and recruitment can
be difficult, and at times, it can even be a little bit stressful. However,
when goals are met, there is a satisfying feeling inside of you that makes
you feel wonderful. The California Association of Blind Students has been
heading in the positive direction in building and increasing membership as
of late in helping to make our student division even stronger. I am pleased
to share with you all and announce that the CABS Twitter page just recently
reached 100 followers! I would like to thank Carla Scroggins and Cricket
Bidleman for giving me the privilege on assisting them with the social media
pages. Although, this is just the beginning... The movement of expanding our
division will continue in the right direction. Thank you to all of you for
helping to support the California Association of Blind Students snd
together, let's continue building the Federation! 
If you hadn't already followed our Twitter page, our Twitter handle is
@NFB_CABS and the link is below where you can find all the latest news,
updates, and important information regarding CABS. 
https://mobile.twitter.com/NFB_CABS

Best regards, 
Matthew Gip

Sent from my iPad

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 21:30:02 -0400
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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Exactly my sentaments too.
Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and

teach students how to use it.
Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to 
click on and go step by step.
If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor 
or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for 
you to complete your work.
Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think 
all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what 
to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and 
puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some 
professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just 
have a course documents folder.
So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You 
cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step 
instructions.
If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to 
assist. Go to  office hours.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: Justin Williams
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
>
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind
> from day one.
>
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 23:22:58 -0500
From: sophie trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote
	Touch?
Message-ID: <59a2492b.2922c80a.87ce6.dcf1 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hello NABS Friends,

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Kindle app on the
BrailleNote Touch. I just got my BN Touch a few weeks ago, and some of my
school books are on Kindle. When I'm reading in the Kindle app, and also
when I'm looking at PDF's on the Touch, it only displays one page at a time.
This makes reading using the app very awkward and clunky, much less than on
the iPhone, which flips pages automatically. Is there an easy way to flip
pages, or to just read continuously using the BN Touch? Any help will be
appreciated.

Best wishes,
Sophie

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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 18:03:22 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 14:03:22 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
In-Reply-To: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <00444D9C-31DF-4B5B-9A75-61A855EBA248@gmail.com>

Ask your professor if you can email your work to them this is a reasonable accommodation

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 18:06:52 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 14:06:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS-L Digest, Vol 130, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <003701d31f45$08e116d0$1aa34470$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.21.1503835202.30019.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<003701d31f45$08e116d0$1aa34470$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <90E809B7-49EF-4ED8-A697-4ABB6FE51F1A@gmail.com>

Going to private tutoring? That might be helpful

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 27, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> I am catching this in digest mode.
> thanks for your comments.
> 
> carl,
> I wasn't complaining about the instructor providing training, the issue was
> being a prick and saying figure it out for yourself and the special software
> not being accessible!
> Bryan
> 
> 
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> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. A H instructor (Bryan Schulz)
>   2. Re: A H instructor (Karl Martin Adam)
>   3. Re: A H instructor (Kc9cpx)
>   4. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
>   5. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
>   6. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
>   7. A Special Thank You Note (Matthew Gip)
>   8. Re: A H instructor (Ashley Bramlett)
>   9. Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote Touch?
>      (sophie trist)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:59:30 -0400
> From: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>    list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <59a1e158.a828c80a.e97f0.9d23 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or 
> to teach you how to use course management systems.  Suing the 
> college because an instructor doesn't do something that they know 
> nothing about and that is not part of their job is completely 
> inappropriate.  You need to contact your school's IT department 
> if you're having trouble with technology, and they may well end 
> up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and the 
> other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns 
> out the system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for 
> an accommodation like submitting your work through e-mail or 
> having a reader help you with the system.
> 
> HTH,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are 
> mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the 
> assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
> after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class 
> starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using 
> jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get 
> behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have 
> provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in 
> mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of 
> assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course 
> can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try 
> another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:40:37 -0500
> From: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
> disabilities.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
>> That would be lawsuit.
>> 
>> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
>> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
>> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>> 
>> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after
> you
>> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
>> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
>> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
>> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from
> day
>> one.
>> 
>> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
> crash
>> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
>> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
>> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
>> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
>> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:51:00 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
> disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
> if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
> disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
> you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
> includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user. 
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
> disabilities.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
>> That would be lawsuit.
>> 
>> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
>> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
>> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>> 
>> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
>> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
> class.
>> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
>> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
>> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
>> from day one.
>> 
>> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
>> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
> mindtap.
>> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
>> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
>> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
>> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:53:28 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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> 
> Not sure how much of a law suit that is.  Did it affect yoru grade?  You may
> have an argument to be able to take the course over or something, or redo
> assignments.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
> Adam via NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:00 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or to teach
> you how to use course management systems.  Suing the college because an
> instructor doesn't do something that they know nothing about and that is not
> part of their job is completely inappropriate.  You need to contact your
> school's IT department if you're having trouble with technology, and they
> may well end up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and
> the other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns out the
> system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for an accommodation
> like submitting your work through e-mail or having a reader help you with
> the system.
> 
> HTH,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:57:23 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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> 
> As long as you put forth the effort, then someone should meet you where you
> faulter.  It doen't matter who, just as long as you have equal access.
> Trying to learn a totally new system on the fly is difficult while trying to
> get college work done.  Unless my professor agreed to show me the blackboard
> system, I'd have set up an appointment with the office of student
> disabilities because their job is accommodations and accessibility.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:26 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:20:57 -0700
> From: Matthew Gip <matthewhgip at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] A Special Thank You Note
> Message-ID: <CBD809DC-3A51-41A7-B2D8-3AD2BD010E1A at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hello students! 
> 
> As many of you are aware, being involved with outreach and recruitment can
> be difficult, and at times, it can even be a little bit stressful. However,
> when goals are met, there is a satisfying feeling inside of you that makes
> you feel wonderful. The California Association of Blind Students has been
> heading in the positive direction in building and increasing membership as
> of late in helping to make our student division even stronger. I am pleased
> to share with you all and announce that the CABS Twitter page just recently
> reached 100 followers! I would like to thank Carla Scroggins and Cricket
> Bidleman for giving me the privilege on assisting them with the social media
> pages. Although, this is just the beginning... The movement of expanding our
> division will continue in the right direction. Thank you to all of you for
> helping to support the California Association of Blind Students snd
> together, let's continue building the Federation! 
> If you hadn't already followed our Twitter page, our Twitter handle is
> @NFB_CABS and the link is below where you can find all the latest news,
> updates, and important information regarding CABS. 
> https://mobile.twitter.com/NFB_CABS
> 
> Best regards, 
> Matthew Gip
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 21:30:02 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67 at OwnerPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>    reply-type=original
> 
> Exactly my sentaments too.
> Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and
> 
> teach students how to use it.
> Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to 
> click on and go step by step.
> If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor 
> or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for 
> you to complete your work.
> Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think 
> all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what 
> to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and 
> puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some 
> professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just 
> have a course documents folder.
> So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
> Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You 
> cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step 
> instructions.
> If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to 
> assist. Go to  office hours.
> 
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Cc: Justin Williams
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
> disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
> if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
> disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
> you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
> includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
> disabilities.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
>> That would be lawsuit.
>> 
>> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
>> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
>> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>> 
>> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws
>> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
> class.
>> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts
>> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws
>> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind
>> from day one.
>> 
>> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
>> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
> mindtap.
>> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments
>> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't
>> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying
>> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 23:22:58 -0500
> From: sophie trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote
>    Touch?
> Message-ID: <59a2492b.2922c80a.87ce6.dcf1 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Hello NABS Friends,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Kindle app on the
> BrailleNote Touch. I just got my BN Touch a few weeks ago, and some of my
> school books are on Kindle. When I'm reading in the Kindle app, and also
> when I'm looking at PDF's on the Touch, it only displays one page at a time.
> This makes reading using the app very awkward and clunky, much less than on
> the iPhone, which flips pages automatically. Is there an easy way to flip
> pages, or to just read continuously using the BN Touch? Any help will be
> appreciated.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Sophie
> 
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 18:15:57 2017
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 14:15:57 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS-L Digest, Vol 130, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <003701d31f45$08e116d0$1aa34470$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.21.1503835202.30019.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<003701d31f45$08e116d0$1aa34470$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <01bd01d31f60$87cf5630$976e0290$@gmail.com>

That was a prick comment your instructor made.it could be used against him
and the university.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:59 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS-L Digest, Vol 130, Issue 21

hi,
I am catching this in digest mode.
thanks for your comments.

carl,
I wasn't complaining about the instructor providing training, the issue was
being a prick and saying figure it out for yourself and the special software
not being accessible!
Bryan


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Today's Topics:

   1. A H instructor (Bryan Schulz)
   2. Re: A H instructor (Karl Martin Adam)
   3. Re: A H instructor (Kc9cpx)
   4. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
   5. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
   6. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
   7. A Special Thank You Note (Matthew Gip)
   8. Re: A H instructor (Ashley Bramlett)
   9. Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote Touch?
      (sophie trist)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi,
 
I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.
 
Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
 
The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.
 
Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
 
Thanks,
Bryan
 


------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:59:30 -0400
From: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <59a1e158.a828c80a.e97f0.9d23 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or to teach
you how to use course management systems.  Suing the college because an
instructor doesn't do something that they know nothing about and that is not
part of their job is completely inappropriate.  You need to contact your
school's IT department if you're having trouble with technology, and they
may well end up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and
the other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns out the
system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for an accommodation
like submitting your work through e-mail or having a reader help you with
the system.

HTH,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,

I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.

Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!

The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.

Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:40:37 -0500
From: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after
you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from
day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:51:00 -0400
From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user. 
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
> from day one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:53:28 -0400
From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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Not sure how much of a law suit that is.  Did it affect yoru grade?  You may
have an argument to be able to take the course over or something, or redo
assignments.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
Adam via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or to teach
you how to use course management systems.  Suing the college because an
instructor doesn't do something that they know nothing about and that is not
part of their job is completely inappropriate.  You need to contact your
school's IT department if you're having trouble with technology, and they
may well end up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and
the other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns out the
system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for an accommodation
like submitting your work through e-mail or having a reader help you with
the system.

HTH,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,

I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.

Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!

The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.

Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:57:23 -0400
From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
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As long as you put forth the effort, then someone should meet you where you
faulter.  It doen't matter who, just as long as you have equal access.
Trying to learn a totally new system on the fly is difficult while trying to
get college work done.  Unless my professor agreed to show me the blackboard
system, I'd have set up an appointment with the office of student
disabilities because their job is accommodations and accessibility.
 Justin

-----Original Message-----
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via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Hi,
 
I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
That would be lawsuit.
 
Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
 
The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
one.
 
Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
 
Thanks,
Bryan
 
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:20:57 -0700
From: Matthew Gip <matthewhgip at gmail.com>
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] A Special Thank You Note
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Hello students! 

As many of you are aware, being involved with outreach and recruitment can
be difficult, and at times, it can even be a little bit stressful. However,
when goals are met, there is a satisfying feeling inside of you that makes
you feel wonderful. The California Association of Blind Students has been
heading in the positive direction in building and increasing membership as
of late in helping to make our student division even stronger. I am pleased
to share with you all and announce that the CABS Twitter page just recently
reached 100 followers! I would like to thank Carla Scroggins and Cricket
Bidleman for giving me the privilege on assisting them with the social media
pages. Although, this is just the beginning... The movement of expanding our
division will continue in the right direction. Thank you to all of you for
helping to support the California Association of Blind Students snd
together, let's continue building the Federation! 
If you hadn't already followed our Twitter page, our Twitter handle is
@NFB_CABS and the link is below where you can find all the latest news,
updates, and important information regarding CABS. 
https://mobile.twitter.com/NFB_CABS

Best regards, 
Matthew Gip

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 21:30:02 -0400
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
Message-ID: <EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67 at OwnerPC>
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Exactly my sentaments too.
Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and

teach students how to use it.
Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to 
click on and go step by step.
If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor 
or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for 
you to complete your work.
Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think 
all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what 
to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and 
puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some 
professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just 
have a course documents folder.
So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You 
cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step 
instructions.
If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to 
assist. Go to  office hours.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Cc: Justin Williams
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
>
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind
> from day one.
>
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 23:22:58 -0500
From: sophie trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote
	Touch?
Message-ID: <59a2492b.2922c80a.87ce6.dcf1 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hello NABS Friends,

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Kindle app on the
BrailleNote Touch. I just got my BN Touch a few weeks ago, and some of my
school books are on Kindle. When I'm reading in the Kindle app, and also
when I'm looking at PDF's on the Touch, it only displays one page at a time.
This makes reading using the app very awkward and clunky, much less than on
the iPhone, which flips pages automatically. Is there an easy way to flip
pages, or to just read continuously using the BN Touch? Any help will be
appreciated.

Best wishes,
Sophie

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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 18:22:28 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 14:22:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS-L Digest, Vol 130, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <01bd01d31f60$87cf5630$976e0290$@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.21.1503835202.30019.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
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I agree with you.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 27, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That was a prick comment your instructor made.it could be used against him
> and the university.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS-L Digest, Vol 130, Issue 21
> 
> hi,
> I am catching this in digest mode.
> thanks for your comments.
> 
> carl,
> I wasn't complaining about the instructor providing training, the issue was
> being a prick and saying figure it out for yourself and the special software
> not being accessible!
> Bryan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. A H instructor (Bryan Schulz)
>   2. Re: A H instructor (Karl Martin Adam)
>   3. Re: A H instructor (Kc9cpx)
>   4. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
>   5. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
>   6. Re: A H instructor (Justin Williams)
>   7. A Special Thank You Note (Matthew Gip)
>   8. Re: A H instructor (Ashley Bramlett)
>   9. Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote Touch?
>      (sophie trist)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <004c01d31ea9$99570680$cc051380$@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:59:30 -0400
> From: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>    list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <59a1e158.a828c80a.e97f0.9d23 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or to teach
> you how to use course management systems.  Suing the college because an
> instructor doesn't do something that they know nothing about and that is not
> part of their job is completely inappropriate.  You need to contact your
> school's IT department if you're having trouble with technology, and they
> may well end up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and
> the other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns out the
> system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for an accommodation
> like submitting your work through e-mail or having a reader help you with
> the system.
> 
> HTH,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:40:37 -0500
> From: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <91C69B41-64B1-4314-AA77-79DA96E0AC8B at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
> disabilities.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
>> That would be lawsuit.
>> 
>> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
>> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
>> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>> 
>> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after
> you
>> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
>> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
>> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
>> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from
> day
>> one.
>> 
>> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
> crash
>> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
>> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
>> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
>> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
>> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:51:00 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <00e201d31eb5$68501930$38f04b90$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
> disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
> if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
> disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
> you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
> includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user. 
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
> disabilities.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
>> That would be lawsuit.
>> 
>> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
>> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
>> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>> 
>> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
>> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
> class.
>> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
>> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
>> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
>> from day one.
>> 
>> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
>> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
> mindtap.
>> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
>> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
>> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
>> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>> 
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:53:28 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <00ec01d31eb5$c0be30c0$423a9240$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Not sure how much of a law suit that is.  Did it affect yoru grade?  You may
> have an argument to be able to take the course over or something, or redo
> assignments.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
> Adam via NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:00 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> It is not the job of instructors to provide technical support or to teach
> you how to use course management systems.  Suing the college because an
> instructor doesn't do something that they know nothing about and that is not
> part of their job is completely inappropriate.  You need to contact your
> school's IT department if you're having trouble with technology, and they
> may well end up sending you to the accessibility people at Blackboard and
> the other company you mentioned.  If after doing all that it turns out the
> system isn't accessible, then it would be time to ask for an accommodation
> like submitting your work through e-mail or having a reader help you with
> the system.
> 
> HTH,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:26:25 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:57:23 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <010201d31eb6$4cd3b3a0$e67b1ae0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> As long as you put forth the effort, then someone should meet you where you
> faulter.  It doen't matter who, just as long as you have equal access.
> Trying to learn a totally new system on the fly is difficult while trying to
> get college work done.  Unless my professor agreed to show me the blackboard
> system, I'd have set up an appointment with the office of student
> disabilities because their job is accommodations and accessibility.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:26 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
> 
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
> 
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws after you
> get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week class. 
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts on
> Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws to
> navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind from day
> one.
> 
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a crash
> course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments and
> quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't even be
> started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying try another
> browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 17:20:57 -0700
> From: Matthew Gip <matthewhgip at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] A Special Thank You Note
> Message-ID: <CBD809DC-3A51-41A7-B2D8-3AD2BD010E1A at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hello students! 
> 
> As many of you are aware, being involved with outreach and recruitment can
> be difficult, and at times, it can even be a little bit stressful. However,
> when goals are met, there is a satisfying feeling inside of you that makes
> you feel wonderful. The California Association of Blind Students has been
> heading in the positive direction in building and increasing membership as
> of late in helping to make our student division even stronger. I am pleased
> to share with you all and announce that the CABS Twitter page just recently
> reached 100 followers! I would like to thank Carla Scroggins and Cricket
> Bidleman for giving me the privilege on assisting them with the social media
> pages. Although, this is just the beginning... The movement of expanding our
> division will continue in the right direction. Thank you to all of you for
> helping to support the California Association of Blind Students snd
> together, let's continue building the Federation! 
> If you hadn't already followed our Twitter page, our Twitter handle is
> @NFB_CABS and the link is below where you can find all the latest news,
> updates, and important information regarding CABS. 
> https://mobile.twitter.com/NFB_CABS
> 
> Best regards, 
> Matthew Gip
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 21:30:02 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> Message-ID: <EB49F374F8F747E8946ECC39B7D48A67 at OwnerPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>    reply-type=original
> 
> Exactly my sentaments too.
> Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and
> 
> teach students how to use it.
> Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to 
> click on and go step by step.
> If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor 
> or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for 
> you to complete your work.
> Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think 
> all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what 
> to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and 
> puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some 
> professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just 
> have a course documents folder.
> So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
> Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You 
> cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step 
> instructions.
> If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to 
> assist. Go to  office hours.
> 
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Cc: Justin Williams
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
> disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
> if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
> disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
> you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
> includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kc9cpx via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:41 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Kc9cpx <kc9cpx at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor
> 
> Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
> disabilities.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
>> That would be lawsuit.
>> 
>> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly
>> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and
>> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>> 
>> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws
>> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
> class.
>> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts
>> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws
>> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind
>> from day one.
>> 
>> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a
>> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
> mindtap.
>> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments
>> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't
>> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying
>> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 23:22:58 -0500
> From: sophie trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone used the Kindle app on the BrailleNote
>    Touch?
> Message-ID: <59a2492b.2922c80a.87ce6.dcf1 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Hello NABS Friends,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Kindle app on the
> BrailleNote Touch. I just got my BN Touch a few weeks ago, and some of my
> school books are on Kindle. When I'm reading in the Kindle app, and also
> when I'm looking at PDF's on the Touch, it only displays one page at a time.
> This makes reading using the app very awkward and clunky, much less than on
> the iPhone, which flips pages automatically. Is there an easy way to flip
> pages, or to just read continuously using the BN Touch? Any help will be
> appreciated.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Sophie
> 
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From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 21:07:51 2017
From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 11:07:51 -1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Fundraising Committee call
Message-ID: <3A098662-6DFF-431D-8477-959D04EE9BCC@gmail.com>

Aloha Students,

Join the NABS Fundraising Committee tomorrow Monday August 28, at 9PM Eastern as we once again talk about everything Fundraising!
Although Washington Seminar is a few months away, the process to  raise money to get as many students to this event as possible begins now!

Call (712) 770-5197 
Access code: 265669

We look forward to hearing from you  

Shannon KS Cantan

NABS Board Member|

From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 23:31:59 2017
From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 18:31:59 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Membership
Message-ID: <CB66BA50-AB22-4AE3-833E-D7D9540C8587@gmail.com>

Membership call


Hello all. 

I hope this email finds everyone well. On behalf of the student division we all would like to formally invite you to the August membership call. This call will take place on August 27 at 8 o'clock Eastern standard time. On this membership call we will be talking to a few different students about their motivation and how they have gotten through different obstacles while working through their education.   We have all had different obstacles to climb over in our educational careers. We will be hearing from different individuals and seeing how they got through those obstacles and maintain their motivation.  I hope to see you on the call!


The call information is 

Call: 712-770-5197
Access code: 265669




All the best,

Tarik Williams




From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 01:04:40 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:04:40 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] My Latest Project
In-Reply-To: <1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>
References: <2E206D5E-E5E7-4C2C-B131-D1D531671FC3@gmail.com>
	<1B0EDD1E-7A5E-4CCC-BDEB-F81B563994C3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXGJfgogWz69Z=Nxo4O-6F+0MgUQFx-bgKXJy++e9phw3g@mail.gmail.com>

hello Kelly and all,
thanks for posting this news about this to the list. you said that you
might be doing a article for this process/frobot for a newsletter. why
not send this article when you have it written also send it to the
braille monitor or the nfb national office for more publication of
this robot? it's just a suggestion. it would give you more pr news
about it and, also more about the stem process since it's also a part
of the nfb for both nabs and also for the nfb in the stem process.
it's just a suggestion. thanks again for sharing this and, I will talk
to you soon!



hugs,
amy

On 8/16/17, Kelly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hello, everyone,
>>>>>      Recently, one of my friends discovered an amazing computer
>>>>> programming learning tool developed by Anki, called the Cozmo robot.
>>>>>
>>>>>      We were excited of course (the robot is very fun to play with
>>>>> after all, and we have always wanted to learn computer programming),
>>>>> but when we downloaded the app that is used to control it, we were
>>>>> dismayed and frustrated to find that it is totally inaccessible with
>>>>> VoiceOver.
>>>>>
>>>>>      We then wrote to Anki customer care to inform them of the issue,
>>>>> and received a form letter giving no indication that they had read or
>>>>> processed our email.
>>>>>
>>>>>      So we drafted this petition in hopes that, if we gather enough
>>>>> support, the developers will realize that accessibility is a concern
>>>>> which must be taken seriously.  We did this not just for the many blind
>>>>> and visually impaired people who could be enjoying and learning from
>>>>> the Cozmo application and others like it, but also for all app
>>>>> developers, so that they may understand the barriers created by
>>>>> inaccessible software.
>>>>>
>>>>>      If you support STEM education and learning opportunities for the
>>>>> blind, accessible software development, and/or equal opportunities for
>>>>> all children to learn programming, we invite you to sign our petition
>>>>> by clicking the link below or simply copying and pasting the URL into
>>>>> your address bar, then filling out the form.  Your information will be
>>>>> kept private and is only used by change.org .
>>>>> https://www.change.org/p/anki-make-stem-education-through-the-cozmo-app-accessible-to-all
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance for your support of our project!
>>>>> Kelly
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From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 02:13:20 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 20:13:20 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] YouTube channel
In-Reply-To: <53329308-3C5A-401C-9FBE-FE20C9C36A85@gmail.com>
References: <53329308-3C5A-401C-9FBE-FE20C9C36A85@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXEhAhkQ7DOYre-wx_sMwP8XVX32X=q0S=k2aLCp+NJSTw@mail.gmail.com>

hello all,
first of all thanks for posting this link for the utube channel that
nabs will be doing! this is a awesome way for students in nabs and
across the usa can share ideas, suggestions, and ideas and all such
through utube. this is also a awesome pr venture that the nfb and nabs
is taking! I wish this channel success and, I hope that many people in
the nfb and nabs will check it out and, give their feedback on it!



hugs,
amy

On 8/21/17, Tarik Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> YouTube announcement
>
> Hello all,
> On behalf of the National Association of Blind Students, I am proud to
> announce our new student division YouTube channels titled "how blind
> students see it". On this YouTube channel, it will be a platform for
> different blind students to show us what is going on in their lives and
> their different successes. This channel will also have different videos
> educating people on different situations that blind people face and how
> blind students accomplish their goals. Here is a link to our YouTube channel
> and our first video introducing the board. We hope to have you subscribe and
> like our videos. We look forward to connecting with all of you in the
> future!
>
> https://youtu.be/QnLE5sghKic
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Tarik Willians
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From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 02:51:04 2017
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:51:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent help with blackboard please
Message-ID: <26A46005-2AFC-4DD4-8653-2C144FF37406@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, 
I will be taking a yoga class at my local community college this week. My professor has put up the syllabus but I'm not sure where to find it. Can somebody please give me instructions on how to use blackboard with NVDA or JAWS? 
Many thanks,
Nesma

Sent from my iPhone

From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 02:58:28 2017
From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:58:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent help with blackboard please
In-Reply-To: <26A46005-2AFC-4DD4-8653-2C144FF37406@gmail.com>
References: <26A46005-2AFC-4DD4-8653-2C144FF37406@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59a386d4.921f240a.b5a78.f7aa@mx.google.com>

Hi there,
In all of my classes, there's been a specific Syllabus link on the course
homepage once I've logged in. Alternatively, there is a Course Materials
link that might have it.
I hope this helps,
Sarah


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To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent help with blackboard please

Hi everyone, 
I will be taking a yoga class at my local community college this week. My
professor has put up the syllabus but I'm not sure where to find it. Can
somebody please give me instructions on how to use blackboard with NVDA or
JAWS? 
Many thanks,
Nesma

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From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 03:04:28 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:04:28 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Swimming and Other Ocean Activities
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References: <598fa71f.5ca3620a.79e34.1a9c@mx.google.com>
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hello vegas and all,
okay, it's now my turn to put in my two cents worth on this! I have
been swimming for almost of my life and, when I was growing up in
Michigan I had a swimming pool in my parents backyard and, I swam with
them all the time and, I also swam by myself too! I have never swam in
the ocean but, I have swam may times in lake Michigan and, that's
where I also learned to swim there too! yes, you can swim indepentally
in the ocean. as for swimming in lake Michigan I just feel the waves
on my hands and also on my feet too! I also can feel the current as
well too! I hope that the tips are helpful for you and, I hope that
you canenjoy swimming as miuch as I do and, others do on this list
too!



hugs,
amy

On 8/12/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi All.
> I hope everyone is having a great summer.  I have a question for
> these who enjoy swimming, or any other ocean activity such as
> surfing or kayaking.
> My parents have told me that if I go into the ocean with friends,
> then I need to make sure that these friends are watching closely,
> since there are certain things I could run into or waves that I
> might not be able to see.  However, I feel that I wouldn't want
> to put extra responsibility on a friend who wants to just enjoy
> the beach themselves.  I was wondering how you all go into the
> ocean and who you go with, if anyone.
> Thanks,
> Vejas
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From personal.edward at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 03:27:33 2017
From: personal.edward at gmail.com (Edward Shaham)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 23:27:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent help with blackboard please
In-Reply-To: <59a386d4.921f240a.b5a78.f7aa@mx.google.com>
References: <26A46005-2AFC-4DD4-8653-2C144FF37406@gmail.com>
	<59a386d4.921f240a.b5a78.f7aa@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <001501d31fad$96c93b90$c45bb2b0$@gmail.com>

Hello,
The syllabus should be under a link that says course documents. If it's not
there, try the link that says announcements. Blackboard gives professors too
much leeway when it comes to setting up course documents. Canvas is better
at organization in my opinion.  
Thanks,
Edward


-----Original Message-----
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via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:58 PM
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Cc: Sarah Jevnikar
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgent help with blackboard please

Hi there,
In all of my classes, there's been a specific Syllabus link on the course
homepage once I've logged in. Alternatively, there is a Course Materials
link that might have it.
I hope this helps,
Sarah


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To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: nesma aly
Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent help with blackboard please

Hi everyone,
I will be taking a yoga class at my local community college this week. My
professor has put up the syllabus but I'm not sure where to find it. Can
somebody please give me instructions on how to use blackboard with NVDA or
JAWS? 
Many thanks,
Nesma

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From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 03:37:35 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:37:35 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system
In-Reply-To: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXEDKCgvqveWh+QHSGhrNSeFXxh7SRqfUHsOKiws2MG6UQ@mail.gmail.com>

hello bryan,
as to your question on using blackboard with using jfw well, imo it
worked out well indeed... I used it when I was at ucd and, a little
bit qwhen I was at mscd. but, that was a long time ago.. but, as for
accessibility with jfw I thought it was accessible in using it. but,
I'm sure that there are others here on this list who have used
blackboard in their college careers and, can give their opinions on
how blackboard has worked for them in their college careers. so,
that's my thoughts on using blackboard. I hope this information was
helpful to you. take care and, I will talk to you soon!



hugs,
amy

On 8/9/17, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How well does jaws work with blackboard for quizzes and accessing college
> class lecture text?
> Bryan
>
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From theweird1 at mediacombb.net  Mon Aug 28 04:05:55 2017
From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 23:05:55 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] blackboard system
In-Reply-To: mAsjdUK5CyhzqmAsmdlqQH
References: <003d01d3114b$2b917a10$82b46e30$@sbcglobal.net>
	mAsjdUK5CyhzqmAsmdlqQH
Message-ID: <000001d31fb2$f36727e0$da3577a0$@mediacombb.net>

The last time I used blackboard, (this past quarter), it was quite
accessible.  I wouldn't bave said that a few years ago. 

Loren 



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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 10:38 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Amy Sabo
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] blackboard system

hello bryan,
as to your question on using blackboard with using jfw well, imo it worked
out well indeed... I used it when I was at ucd and, a little bit qwhen I was
at mscd. but, that was a long time ago.. but, as for accessibility with jfw
I thought it was accessible in using it. but, I'm sure that there are others
here on this list who have used blackboard in their college careers and, can
give their opinions on how blackboard has worked for them in their college
careers. so, that's my thoughts on using blackboard. I hope this information
was helpful to you. take care and, I will talk to you soon!



hugs,
amy

On 8/9/17, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How well does jaws work with blackboard for quizzes and accessing 
> college class lecture text?
> Bryan
>
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From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 04:15:35 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:15:35 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Guide canes
In-Reply-To: <3D8CC098-9600-4B68-B2E9-3D0E21628837@gmail.com>
References: <3D8CC098-9600-4B68-B2E9-3D0E21628837@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXGv7F8hp-=TrjTd9GRae19aEL07ZFXrJz6zj6_mXoQhSQ@mail.gmail.com>

hello emma,
this is a great question. as for myself I get my canes from the
independence market which is through the nfb.org website. I use a
50/50 cane with a glide tip. I havealso to use a straight long white
cane as well too but, I prefer a folding cane for my preference. I
have also used a fiberglass cane which is also through the
independence market on nfb.org but, I hate that it always keeps on
clapping on me when I walk and, I also need something which has a lot
of support for myself since besides my blindness I have a knee
condition in my right jknee as well too so support is a must for me!
as for your prefer type of cane I believe that ila which is
independent living aidshas them and, also California canes to do as
well too! unfortunately, I don't have their websites but, I'm sure you
can google them for their web sites. also, I have usefd a folding cane
which is metal which my commission for the blind case worker gave me
when I lived in Michigan but, I have also purchased that same cane as
well too but, I prefer the nfb canes! so, that's my thoughts on this
topic I'm sure that others hwere will have other suggestions as well
too! take care and, I will talk to you soon!




hugs,
amy

On 8/5/17, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone
>
> Where do you get your canes?
> I like extra long canes thhat are foldable with a roller tip.
> Thank you so much
> Emma
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From erindaring at gmail.com  Tue Aug 29 17:58:49 2017
From: erindaring at gmail.com (erindaring at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 13:58:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone taken a geography class in college?
Message-ID: <72FE997D-67BD-4B72-8460-6F93824673FF@gmail.com>

Hello Fellow NABS Students,

This semester I am taking a geography class. I never had to do it back in high school or middle school really and one of the text book is an atlas. How did y'all get through the course and  what kind of accommodation did y'all use?

Thanks, 
Erin Daring,
Treasurer and Chair of Fundraising 
Maryland Association of Blind Students



From werwiewilliama at staffordhigh.com  Tue Aug 29 18:07:43 2017
From: werwiewilliama at staffordhigh.com (William Werwie)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 14:07:43 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone taken a geography class in college?
In-Reply-To: <72FE997D-67BD-4B72-8460-6F93824673FF@gmail.com>
References: <72FE997D-67BD-4B72-8460-6F93824673FF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMom-0KghNGN0ASObjnGpZ-md3d6AcQb24u5Epc-ots1P4nA-g@mail.gmail.com>

I took geography my freshmen year of high school. We didn't really use
atlases ​in class. But when we used maps to do worksheets or assignments, i
used google maps or whatever app cam standard on an iOS device...
As for the accommodations, my teacher would print out the power points and
i would just fill in the blanks on my notes at my own pace.

I hoped this helped!
-will werwie



On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:58 PM, erindaring--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> wrote:

> Hello Fellow NABS Students,
>
> This semester I am taking a geography class. I never had to do it back in
> high school or middle school really and one of the text book is an atlas.
> How did y'all get through the course and  what kind of accommodation did
> y'all use?
>
> Thanks,
> Erin Daring,
> Treasurer and Chair of Fundraising
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>
>
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 29 18:37:56 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 14:37:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone taken a geography class in college?
Message-ID: <59a5b4a6.cee6ca0a.bd7fe.80dd@mx.google.com>

Hi Aaron thanks for your message.  I did not take a geography 
class in college.  When I took Geography in middle school I had a 
braille copy of an Atlas to use in class.  My textbook for the 
class was also available in braille along with the worksheets 
which were brailled by my vision teacher until I received the 
book containing the worksheets.


From lakeria2009 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 29 18:42:57 2017
From: lakeria2009 at gmail.com (Lakeria Taylor)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 13:42:57 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone taken a geography class in college?
In-Reply-To: <72FE997D-67BD-4B72-8460-6F93824673FF@gmail.com>
References: <72FE997D-67BD-4B72-8460-6F93824673FF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B597304-5A3D-49B0-A493-CBFD7FEC33A4@gmail.com>

We used to have a tactile atlas this when I was in grade school. Maybe you can check APH to see if they still sell them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2017, at 12:58 PM, erindaring--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Fellow NABS Students,
> 
> This semester I am taking a geography class. I never had to do it back in high school or middle school really and one of the text book is an atlas. How did y'all get through the course and  what kind of accommodation did y'all use?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Erin Daring,
> Treasurer and Chair of Fundraising 
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> 
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From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Tue Aug 29 21:21:55 2017
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:21:55 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Has anyone taken a geography class in college?
In-Reply-To: <72FE997D-67BD-4B72-8460-6F93824673FF@gmail.com>
References: <72FE997D-67BD-4B72-8460-6F93824673FF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXEOKx3G8p14cS1inF=X=QY5SfZ5HOZpB_LpzxaFqw3Yjg@mail.gmail.com>

hello all,
well, I had to take a geography class at in college but, we didn't
deal with maps at all. most of the classwork was all done on the
internet and, in class. but, when I was in grade school,middle school
and, in high school I still had some usuable vision and, the teachers
would enlarge my maps for me to do them and, they also highlighted the
maps in using a black marker for me to put in the information for the
maps. as for a tactual atlas I'm sure that aph has one or the national
center might have one that you could use or your school's dss office
could obtain for you. if not then your dvr councelor in your state
could provide it for you! those are my suggestions for taking this
class! take care and, good luck in your class this semester.



hugs,
amy

On 8/29/17, erindaring--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello Fellow NABS Students,
>
> This semester I am taking a geography class. I never had to do it back in
> high school or middle school really and one of the text book is an atlas.
> How did y'all get through the course and  what kind of accommodation did
> y'all use?
>
> Thanks,
> Erin Daring,
> Treasurer and Chair of Fundraising
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>
>
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From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 20:37:56 2017
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:37:56 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Fundraising Sub Committee Call
Message-ID: <F251E6B2-171D-4974-8019-B07A1C456A58@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

The NABS Fundraising Sub Committee Call for Fantasy Sports, NFB center collaboration, and online raffles will be next Wednesday at 9EST   Please let me know if you have any questions   I apologize for the day change 

Thanks 

Cody Beardslee 
Treasurer, National Association of Blind Students 
President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
Board Member, National Federation of the Blind of Minnesota 
Phone: 763-291-3711
Work Email: cbeardslee at blindinc.org 
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

From aachase1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 31 08:43:47 2017
From: aachase1 at gmail.com (Alan A. Chase)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 04:43:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Our summer fun and learning!
Message-ID: <CAABjKXmFA75eWts5xGZPahPpbMb+chWiH-zXZ5Kp_qNtiXUZqA@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning,

As you know, the purpose of the EYE Retreat is to support and prepare high
school youth with visual impairments for college and work.  This year we
had 51 participants from eight states.  In 2018, we will be celebrating 10
years of service!

Below are links to two videos.  The videos are too large to upload to an
email.  One is a recap of the weekly activities and the other is a
testimonial / reflection of the week.  I trust you will enjoy.  Grab some
popcorn and relax!

A written report, including data supporting the success of our program will
be available in the coming month.  Check our website at www.eyeretreat.org
for information on 2018 in the coming months so you can join in on the fun
and learning next year!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5u_4LU2eCmIR3ZIeVV2a0NROHc/view?
usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5u_4LU2eCmIVm1mbXVjckl1aFk
/view?usp=sharing

Thanks!

Alan

*Dr. Alan A. Chase*
President & Director, Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat

From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 31 15:56:32 2017
From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:56:32 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Apple Music membership for ckllege students
Message-ID: <59a831c6.96c3370a.2edc8.5645@mx.google.com>

Hi all,

So I just discovered that if you're a college student, you can 
get a four-dollar discount for Apple Music (which I've been using 
for free so far since changing my Apple ID and email address).  I 
thought that was really cool, so I decided to sign up for this 
discount membership.  However, when I tried to do so from the 
Music app, I was brought to the Apple website, in which I had to 
fill out a form providing my email address as well as the name of 
my school.  However, after I filled in this information, the text 
field for my school name kept popping back up, and I kept getting 
a message saying that what I entered was invalid.  So I tried 
different approaches, such as just entering my school name 
without the word "college" at the end, and then just tried the 
abbreviation, but nothing seemed to work.

So was just wondering if anyone has used/is using this discount 
on Apple Music for college students, and if so, what did you do 
when you were prompted to enter your school name? Also, do you 
know if some schools may not allow this discount for some reason?

I hope to hear from all of you soon.

Thanks,

Sami


From ignasicambra at gmail.com  Thu Aug 31 16:15:03 2017
From: ignasicambra at gmail.com (Ignasi Cambra)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:15:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Apple Music membership for ckllege students
In-Reply-To: <59a831c6.96c3370a.2edc8.5645@mx.google.com>
References: <59a831c6.96c3370a.2edc8.5645@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <1A537FFA-62AC-4D62-B413-E2270421ED37@gmail.com>

If I remember this correctly you don’t really have to type in your school name, you have to select it from a list. When you start typing the name it just narrows down the results, but you still need to select your school.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Aug 2017, at 11:56, Sami Osborne via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So I just discovered that if you're a college student, you can get a four-dollar discount for Apple Music (which I've been using for free so far since changing my Apple ID and email address).  I thought that was really cool, so I decided to sign up for this discount membership.  However, when I tried to do so from the Music app, I was brought to the Apple website, in which I had to fill out a form providing my email address as well as the name of my school.  However, after I filled in this information, the text field for my school name kept popping back up, and I kept getting a message saying that what I entered was invalid.  So I tried different approaches, such as just entering my school name without the word "college" at the end, and then just tried the abbreviation, but nothing seemed to work.
> 
> So was just wondering if anyone has used/is using this discount on Apple Music for college students, and if so, what did you do when you were prompted to enter your school name? Also, do you know if some schools may not allow this discount for some reason?
> 
> I hope to hear from all of you soon.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sami
> 
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 31 17:22:47 2017
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 13:22:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Apple Music membership for ckllege students
Message-ID: <59a8460d.d949620a.2940b.09b6@mx.google.com>

Hi Sami thanks for your message.  I have been using the free 
three-month trial for an Apple music membership.  I did not know 
about the discount for college students.