[nabs-l] A H instructor

Sun Aug 27 13:56:56 UTC 2017

They probably don't have to do that for the students, but if they get ti,
then the student who is blind definitely should.  
Justin

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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Exactly my sentaments too.
Justin you are right in that they need to provide an accessible platform and
teach students how to use it.
Many professors demo blackboard in class for students and show them what to
click on and go step by step.
If it turns out inaccessible after walking through it with  your professor
or someone familiar with the tool, then an accomodation should be made for
you to complete your work.
Its unfortunate that it sounds like no one tried to assist Bryan. I  think
all students, but particularly blind students, need to instruction in what
to do on blackboard. Its difficult because every professor is different and
puts different assignments in different folders. For instance, some
professors put assignment files in the assignments folder and others just
have a course documents folder.
So, you need direction as to where to click and what you are looking for. 
Again most professors I've encountered in college will go over it. You
cannot see what they are doing, but you can hear thee step by step
instructions.
If you need more help, I'd say its your professor's responsibility to
assist. Go to  office hours.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Part of the accommodations should be the professor, or someone in the
disability office assisting you.  the prof doesn't have to do it, but then
if he doesn't, the someone else at the university, maybe the office of
disability service, or anyone else sdoes.  You can even get a rriend to help
you, but the college is ultimately responsible for accessibility, which
includes the ability to use blackboard as a jaws user.
Justin

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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A H instructor

Lawsuit. Teachers are required by law and the ada to assist those with
disabilities.

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> On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like opinions when would you mention the l word to a college.
> That would be lawsuit.
>
> Say you are brand new to using blackboard and mindtap that are mildly 
> accessible and you ask an instructor where to find the assignments and 
> quizzes in mindtap and the AH says figure it out for yourself!
>
> The blackboard program turns out to be easy to navigate with jaws 
> after you get used to it but time is not a luxury with an eight week
class.
> When an instructor loads their blackboard on Saturday and class starts 
> on Monday and a major task is due on Wednesday and someone using jaws 
> to navigate the screens was only an after-thought, one can get behind 
> from day one.
>
> Many hours wouldn't have been wasted if someone could have provided a 
> crash course for blackboard and days were wasted fumbling around in
mindtap.
> One course works well within mindtap and I found a list of assignments 
> and quizzes which we are required to complete but another course can't 
> even be started due to the mindtap screens and an instructor saying 
> try another browser and it works fine on my end, it must be your computer.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
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