From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Fri Dec 1 16:07:06 2017 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 16:07:06 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Social Science Research Message-ID: Hello All, I have some questions about conducting social science research, and I am looking for someone who would be willing to talk to me about them off list. I have already posted a message on the social science email list. However, I know the social science email list is a rather small list. So I thought I would post here as well. If you or anyone you know would be willing to talk to me off list, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. My email address is lizmohnke at hotmail.com. Thanks, Elizabeth From jim.hulme at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 16:16:25 2017 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:16:25 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Social Science Research In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please consult an professor in the social science field for assistance. On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I have some questions about conducting social science research, and I am > looking for someone who would be willing to talk to me about them off list. > I have already posted a message on the social science email list. However, > I know the social science email list is a rather small list. So I thought I > would post here as well. If you or anyone you know would be willing to talk > to me off list, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. My email > address is lizmohnke at hotmail.com. > > Thanks, > Elizabeth > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From discoduck221 at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 11:47:42 2017 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 06:47:42 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] De Stress From The End Of The Semester Push And Check Out The Launch Of A New Online Radio Station, Happening Today Message-ID: Hello There! This is the only email that will come to this list promoting that this station is going live today. Maryland’s very own Chris Nusbaum is a station manager on this project, and we are proud to have him. Please consider passing this on to anyone you think would find this interesting and useful. Have a great and safe happy holiday season, and good luck to all of you on your up coming finals and send of the semester school work. You can always reach me at ddunphy at 195theglobe.com After four years of patience, research and hahrd work, my online radio station, 195 The Globe goes live today, and you are invited to be part of oour musically exciting launch! It all starts today at 2 PM eastern (1 PM central, 12 Noon mountain, 11 Pacific) with our grand launch party! There, you'll get to hear music that will make you feel good; music that will make you want to dance; music that will take your mind off your troubles. And yes, even some Christmas music will be thrown in too! But with so much going on in the world these days, and since the holidays are often a time people usually associate with being happy, I want today's show to try to recapture that energy, since that's what preparing this station has done for me. I want to share that! And if you're not hearing music that you like, although I think some of what you hear will make you smile, you can begin searching my music library and requesting your favorite songs two hours prior to the show start, which will be at (12 Noon eastern, 11 AM central, 10AM mountain, 9 AM pacific) by visiting http://www.195theglobe.com/dunphy Feel free to add live at 195theglobe.com to your skype Interact with us on twitter at 195_theglobe although we ask you use the globe hash tag #globeonair if you talk with us on twitter so those who aren't interested in what's going on can filter out the conversation Join our facebook group at https://m.facebook.com/groups/293344851146439?multi_permalinks=320353701778887&_rdr We have a facebook page, too, located at http://m.facebook.com/djdrocks Join us on Teamtalk (see link below) Or give us a call at 1-951-525-6562 To listen to our station, head on over to http://195theglobe.com/index.php/about/ where you'll find links to listening with your default media player, a web player, teamtalk info and more. To listen with us in TuneIn Radio, there are three ways available to you: 1. Launch our station on Tunein Radio at http://bit.ly/2Ala9Bp 2. Using your favorite mobile phone, use the TuneIn radio app to search for 195 The Globe 3. If you want to listen with Alexa, it's a little harder since she's having trouble finding the station. But what you can do is to launch the alexa app, under the music section, select your echo device, click the TuneIn link from music, and find 195 The Globe that way, and she'll play it for you. As stated above, I've been wanting to bring 195 The Globe on air for over four years now, and today is my chance to do it! So, come spend some time with us today, beginning at 2 PM eastern, learn who we are, and check out the radio revolution! >From David Dunphy From logan4447 at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 01:10:38 2017 From: logan4447 at gmail.com (Logan Anderson) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 20:10:38 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Microscope Usage in Science Classes Message-ID: <45DD49EA-52DA-42BF-9F37-AFEC7D51F18C@gmail.com> Hi all, I am a university student studying genetic biology. Due to my major I have to take classes that have labs focusing on microscope use and students are tested on their ability to effectively use microscopes to figure out information. I was wondering if any of you have figured out strategies to utilize microscopes or ways of dealing with the information microscopes are used to get. It is important for me to understand what my peers would see under the microscope in class, because understanding cells and their visual appearance is an important part of genetics. i have no usable vision. I usually have a lab assistant who is there to explain anything visual to me, but I am still having trouble understanding the material. I also use a Draftsman during labs, though it doesn't help much, because it is difficult for me to distinguish details in the pictures drawn. Thank you, Logan From sheth.neel.s at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 15:19:44 2017 From: sheth.neel.s at gmail.com (Neel Sheth) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:19:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Microscope Usage in Science Classes In-Reply-To: <45DD49EA-52DA-42BF-9F37-AFEC7D51F18C@gmail.com> References: <45DD49EA-52DA-42BF-9F37-AFEC7D51F18C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Logan, When it comes to microscopy, I’ve found that the best solution is to ask your university’s disability services office to hire a lab assistant with a scientific background, ideally, someone in the same major. For my general microbiology lab last semester, I had a lab assistant who had taken the same course the year before, so had plenty of practice using microscopes. During labs, I would take any additional notes on the procedure I’d think I needed, and use read through the procedure in the lab manual. The assistant would perform the stain with the exact instructions I gave him, even going as far as to asking me how to adjust the magnification on the microscopes for each observation. For this particular lab, we had to come back to the life sciences building a few times a week after lab days to make more observations. The assistant would then send me an email with the observations at the end of the week. Let me know if you have any other questions. > On Dec 3, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Logan Anderson via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am a university student studying genetic biology. Due to my major I have to take classes that have labs focusing on microscope use and students are tested on their ability to effectively use microscopes to figure out information. I was wondering if any of you have figured out strategies to utilize microscopes or ways of dealing with the information microscopes are used to get. It is important for me to understand what my peers would see under the microscope in class, because understanding cells and their visual appearance is an important part of genetics. i have no usable vision. I usually have a lab assistant who is there to explain anything visual to me, but I am still having trouble understanding the material. I also use a Draftsman during labs, though it doesn't help much, because it is difficult for me to distinguish details in the pictures drawn. > > Thank you, > Logan > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sheth.neel.s%40gmail.com From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 16:34:27 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:34:27 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Washington Seminar update! Message-ID: <009f01d36d1d$c0acddf0$420699d0$@gmail.com> Fellow student advocates: Please read below for information regarding preparation for Washington Seminar and logistics for the event itself. Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions! Excited to see many of you soon! NABS Personal Testimony Letters Update from co-chair of NABS Legislative Advocacy: Kenia Flores The National Association of blind students Legislative Advocacy Committee is asking that each student division collect five personal testimonies before Washington Seminar. These testimonies can highlight either positive or negative experiences. I have attached a template and two examples of what a great testimony looks like. You can email your testimony to me at kenia.flores at furman.edu 2018 Washington Seminar What: The Washington Seminar is an annual event of the National Federation of the Blind to introduce the agenda of blind Americans--the priority issues requiring congressional attention over the coming year. The issues are selected from official positions of the Federation and will certainly address equal access to education, the bread and butter for blind students across the nation! When: Monday, January 29, through Thursday, February 1, 2018 Where: Holiday Inn Capitol 550 C Street, SW Washington, DC 20024 Phone: 202-479-4000 Please reserve your room at the Holiday Inn Capitol (550 C Street, SW Washington, DC 20024) for Washington Seminar by Tuesday, January 2, 2018. Check-in at our booking rate begins Friday, January 26, 2018 with a check-out by Friday, February 2, 2018. The rate is $192.00 per night. This rate does not include DC sales tax, currently 14.8%. Please get your letters in and your rooms reserved! Love, Kathryn C. Webster President | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind (203) 273-8463 Nabs.president at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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NABS Notes: November 2017 In this issue, you will find: • President’s Note • Board Meeting Minutes • Grand Canyon Sound Academy Program Application • NFB 2018 National Scholarship Program: Apply Now • NABS Legislative Toolkit • 2018 Washington Seminar • Monthly Blog Post • Monthly YouTube Video • Committee Updates • State Updates President’s Note Happy holidays, fellow students! For the NABS Board, November was full of traveling, planning, and innovation! NABS reps were sent out to build our student divisions and strengthen our movement in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Louisiana, Texas, Nevada, and Washington DC! With the fall convention coming to a close, we amplified our preparation for Washington Seminar. This year, NABS is planning a Student Leadership Seminar alongside our national president. The weekend before Washington Seminar, 30 students will gather at our national headquarters to learn, share, and grow as dynamic leaders in the national Federation of the Blind. We have a special opportunity to collaborate with our affiliate presidents the same weekend, as we interact with our state leaders during their weekend of growth. Upon conclusion, we will travel to Washington DC to fight for our rights as active participants in society! AIM HIGH is of the greatest priority this year. So, please get your personal testimony letters to our Legislative Advocacy Chair, Syed Rizvi, at syedrizvinfb at gmail.comthe sooner, the better. Our Fundraising Committee did an excellent job with Giving Tuesday this year, recognizing that without funds, NABS cannot continue improving the lives of blind students. A promotional video and support site was create. Visit www.supportblindstudents.com to learn more. I am excited and thankful for you during the holiday season, particularly because it points to the appreciation we have for our extended Federation family. As many of you know, it has been a difficult time for me with family matters over the past couple of months. I was showered with overwhelming support and love from blind students in so many of our states. The NABS Board wants to be that love and support to you, so please start the conversation. The Federation is more than a resource-base; we are a family. As we kick off the December month, I want to wish each of you success in your finals as the fall semester wraps up. I encourage each of you to relax when finals conclude, whether with family or friends. You deserve it! Love always, Kathryn C. Webster President Board Meeting Minutes National Association of Blind Students-A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind Call Minutes: November 5, 2017 On the call: All present minus Tarik Announcements: Dustin Cather will be serving as Assistant Treasurer to Cody. Treasurer’s Report: Treasurer’s Report 11/5/17 Total Revenue: $318.56 PayPal: $311.56 PayPal Revenue includes funds raised by Fantasy Football. Square: $7.22 Total expenses: $271.95 Pack Plan: $15 Reimbursement checks: $240 Website domain renewal: $16.95 Balance: $7,048.17 Committee Report: Fundraising: Fantasy and restaurant fundraisers coming in. Cookbook is coming together. Auction items are coming together. Still looking for donations. Video is coming together for Giving Tuesday. Outreach: New video coming out. Working on new YouTube videos. Legislative Advocacy: Push for 60 letters by Washington Seminar. Looking for 3 more AIM HE support letters before Washington seminar. Working with a few more states. Going to do presentations at schools. Challenge to states: Get at least 5 letters, the state that gets the most letters wins. Working on an incentive. Event Planning: Working on Washington Seminar. Collaborating with other committees to make it all happen. Midwest Regional Seminar April 20-22. Luke will have our responsibilities to us my Jan 1. Michael and Kathryn will be working to help committees. Will be more formalized. Working to keep consistency.Michael is the point person for Outreach and Event Planning. Kathryn is the point person for Fundraising and Legislative Advocacy. Ed Shaham will be taking a step back for the time being. Committee Reminders: • Send Chelsea committee updates on the 22nd of every month. • Meeting announcements need to be sent one week beforehand and one day beforehand. • Minutes must be sent to the board. This is how we grow. Leadership updates: • Matthew Gip = Cali student president • Pipi Adams = Colorado student president • Pennsylvania and Minnesota have had affiliate president changes. Funding for Washington seminar applications will be open from November 6-November 26. 2018 student leadership seminar Jan 26-28, 2018. 30 students will be invited by Kathryn. From there, we will be taking a bus to DC. NABS Cafe: Monday, January 29. Liaison: Please work with your states. Call them, message them. Etc. Build relationships. Let them lean on you, so you can lean on them. Adjourned at 10:00 EST Leading the Way: Grand Canyon We are excited to announce that twenty teenagers who are both blind/visually impaired and fully-sighted will be selected to receive scholarships for an once-in-a-lifetime leadership adventure! On this 10 day expedition, students will: • Journey down the Colorado River into the heart of the Grand Canyon • Hone their interpersonal and leadership skills through the No Barriers Life curriculum • Learn about the importance of natural sounds with support from the National Park Service Natural Sounds and Night Skies Division • Participate in meaningful science projects • Much, much more! The early application deadline is December 15th and students can apply now! Application and more information: http://www.nobarriersusa.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/10/Grand-Canyon-Sound-Academy-Program-Details.pdf NFB 2018 National Scholarship Program: APPLY NOW http://www.nfb.org/scholarships Are you legally blind? Do you reside in the United States, the District of Columbia, or Puerto Rico? Are you pursuing or planning to pursue a full-time, postsecondary course of study at a U.S. institution in the 2016 scholastic year? Are you available to attend the entire NFB National Convention in Orlando, Florida from July 3-July 8, 2018? Are you eager to meet Federation leaders and network with some of the brightest, most passionate mentors out there? If you said yes to all of these questions, then we strongly encourage you to apply to our 2018 National Scholarship Program! To recognize achievement by blind scholars, the National Federation of the Blind annually offers blind college students in the United States and Puerto Rico the opportunity to win one of thirty merit-based, national-level scholarships ranging in value of $3,000 to $12,000. All scholarships awarded are based on academic excellence, community service, and leadership. Visit our website at www.nfb.org/scholarships to begin your application! Remember: applications, along with all necessary documents, must be submitted no later than March 31, 2018. Do not wait until the end of February to start gathering additional information and beginning the online form. NABS Legislative Toolkit: The NABS Legislative Toolkit is a complete and comprehensive guide for all blind students to more actively participate in the fight for equal access. Included are step by step instructions on how to write your personal testimony, how to approach your university for support, and even how to hold a legislative workshop with your student division. The Legislative committee exists to further explain and assist students in their implementation of the kit. The National Association of Blind Students Legislative Committee knows that through changing laws, we can change lives. Join us, use this invaluable tool. Together, through collective action, we can achieve equality for the blind in the classroom, and beyond. This toolkit will be up on our web site soon, as well as distributed to student presidents. 2018 Washington Seminar What: The Washington Seminar is an annual event of the National Federation of the Blind to introduce the agenda of blind Americans--the priority issues requiring congressional attention over the coming year. The issues are selected from official positions of the Federation and will certainly address concerns regarding to equal access to education, the legislation affecting blind students across our nation! When: Sunday, January 28, through Thursday, February 1, 2018 Where: Holiday Inn Capitol 550 C Street, SW Washington, DC 20024 Phone: 202-479-4000 Please reserve your room at the Holiday Inn Capitol (550 C Street, SW Washington, DC 20024) for Washington Seminar by Tuesday, January 2, 2018. Check-in at our booking rate begins Friday, January 26, 2018 with a check-out by Friday, February 2, 2018. The rate is $192.00 per night. This rate does not include DC sales tax, currently 14.8%. Monthly Blog Post Matthew Gip is our newly elected California student division president. Matt is 19 years old and was born and raised in Fresno, California. He currently attends Fresno City College as a freshman, majoring in psychology. He hopes to become a writer or potentially pursue a career in the blindness field of teaching cane travel in Orientation and Mobility. Please join us in reading his experience as a growing leader in our organization. Earlier this month on November 2-5, I attended my very first state convention in my home state of California. I started off the day by taking the Amtrak train for the very first time. It was a phenomenal experience and the ride was very smooth, but something happened… I ended up missing my stop at Stockton, where I was supposed to get off to meet the Northern California bus with other convention attendees to get to the hotel. The conductor apologized for not letting me know when to get off, but needless to say, with the training I learned and gained from BLIND, Inc., I was able to locate where I was and I got off a couple of stops later and took an Uber to the hotel. I ended up arriving before everyone. This was truly a historic and memorable convention for me. I am proud to announce that I was one of the state scholarship finalists, as well as being elected as the new student division president of CABS, the California student division. I am honored and humbled to be in this leadership role and I hope to set an example and be an asset for students. I would like to give a special thank you to the immediate past student president, Carla Scroggins, President Ever Lee Hairston, and President Kathryn Webster for all the support and continuing to mentor me as I go through this new transition. There was so much love, energy, and passion at convention and I loved every single moment of it. We had an awesome national rep, NFB of Colorado President, Scott LaBarre, where he gave an outstanding and motivating speech about breaking down barriers for blind people and he also told us about his airport experience. I would like to wrap up by saying how grateful I am to have attended this year’s state convention. I have learned so much, including advocacy, mentoring, leadership, and much more. I am truly honored to be a part of the Federation and to have my Federation family with me. I see a very bright future in not just our student division, but the entire affiliate. The main goal of the Federation is to increase membership and I am proud to say, if it wasn’t for the National Federation of the Blind, I wouldn’t be the person I am today. http://nabslink.org/content/blog-post-month-november-weekend-remember Monthly YouTube Video Please enjoy our latest video of students explaining what NABS Means to them. Love, watch, and share! https://youtu.be/izAXe7Z275U Committee Updates Get Involved With NABS by Joining Our Committees If you have ever wanted to get involved with the work the National Association of Blind Students is doing, this is your chance. We have recently reorganized our committees and are looking for students with a passion to work beside us in building the Federation. If you are interested in joining one or more of our committees, please select the committee(s) you are most interested in and send an email to the Chair of the committee. Or, join the conference line at the designated times when it is most convenient to you. We look forward to working with you to build the National Federation of the Blind. Legislative/Advocacy: The Legislative Advocacy Committee is buzzing with excitement as Washington Seminar quickly approaches. As always, we are collecting personal testimonies and university letters. We will be hosting the legislative workshop for students at seminar and have been developing the agenda. There will be interactive breakout sessions and some friendly competition with prizes. If you need guidance with writing a personal testimony, collecting a university letter or wish to contribute to seminar planning, email Syed Rizvi at SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com. Fundraising: 1. Giving Tuesday takes place on Tuesday, November 28! NABS needs support in order to support you! Please share: • Our web site www.nabslink.org • Our Giving Tuesday site www.supportblindstudents.org • Our promo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izAXe7Z275U&feature=em-upload_owner • And, of course, what NABS means to you! 2. Visit our NABS cook book order form to purchase our second annual cook book, chalk full of delicious recipes that range from vegan to Pamlico to smoothies, and so many others. Order form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkhzrqVB9WFrHWcTeeC0o95SH5DgOC82NT8BUZKs872AyfsA/viewform?c=0&w=1 3. Our Annual NABS Auction is coming soon! This year, we will be auctioning items online prior to NABS Cafeé for those not present to participate. Stay tuned to browse our great items on our web site! 4. If you have any questions or would like to join the Fundraising Committee, reach out to Chair Shannon Cantan at ShannonCantan.NFB at gmail.com or via telephone at 808-785-5186 Event Planning: The NABS event planning committee is busy planning the staffing and logistics of the annual NABS cafe for Washington seminar. We are also in the beginning stages of planning s Midwest student seminar for April in Chicago. Outreach: Our Outreach Committee is working on reaching out to more students! If you have any ideas on what you'd like to see in a blog post or YouTube video, please reach out to Tarik Williams: williams.Tarik20 at gmail.com, Ellana Crew, or Chelsea Peahl: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com. As a reminder, membership calls happen on the last Sunday of the month at 8:00 EST, and committee calls will happen on the fourth Wednesday of the month at 9:00 EST. We'd love to have you on our committee! State Updates Hawaii In Hawaii, we recently held our state convention, where we elected a new board of directors: President Justin Salisbury, Vice President Gloria Tuuao, Secretary Jove Watson, Treasurer Shannon Cantan, Board Member Scott Tokunaga. Since elections, we have been building our organizational infrastructure while also planning some future events. We have created an email listserv through the NFBnet system, thanks to help from Dave Andrews. We have acquired an Employer Identification Number through the Internal Revenue Service for banking purposes and will soon establish our own formal bank account. We are planning a holiday dinner and fundraiser, and we are discussing a new event for the spring. This new workshop will involve experiential, hands-on interview training for blind students as we prepare for gainful employment. Other future workshops may focus on career choice and career planning. These events are not meant to replace the student seminar but will rather provide additional support to blind students and bring us together in person more often. Last, but certainly not least, we are continuing to collect student testimonies to support AIM HIGH as we prepare for Washington Seminar. Louisiana The Louisiana Association of Blind Students had a very successful student seminar from Friday, November 3-Sunday, November 5. We had twenty-five students in attendance at the Louisiana Center for the Blind from a corner of our great state. We listened to speeches from Federation leaders like Pam Allen it Edward Bell, engaged in spirited debates and skits about self-advocacy and NFB philosophy, and came together in friendship to help and support each other. Thanks so the LABS board for making it a wonderful weekend and to all who attended. LABS wishes everyone a happy holiday season and a successful end of the semester. Utah It is time to apply for a National Federation of the Blind of Utah Scholarship. The application deadline is March 31, 2018, but you are highly encouraged to apply early. No late or incomplete submissions will be accepted. This is the first year we have created our own application, so please email any problems you may have to deja.powell at gmail.com. The following link is for the NFB of Utah scholarship application only: https://goo.gl/forms/wPN4aG2o7YRSbhuw2 Documents to help with your application: 1. Proof of legal blindness. 2. Submission checklist. Please contact Deja Powell: deja.powell at gmail.com with any questions. Washington DC The NFB of DC is looking for motivated blind students to volunteer at our NFB BELL Academy 2018! Dates: July 30th to August 10th 2018 A stipend will be provided. If you are coming out of state lodging will be provided. More details on link. We would love to have you!! Apply here: https://goo.gl/forms/Me59R8e7D4xQ0mHK2 Contact Conchita Hernandez with any questions: hernandezlegorreta at gmail.com The national Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org Live the Life You Want Respectfully yours, Chelsea Peahl Secretary, National Association of Blind Students -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NABS Notes.November 2017.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 30682 bytes Desc: NABS Notes.November 2017.docx URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 04:10:06 2017 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 04:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder! Fundraising Committee Call Next Monday December 11th at 9PM Eastern. References: <467447044.1686904.1512447006565.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <467447044.1686904.1512447006565@mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, Please join us on Monday December 11th at 9 pm Eastern for another exciting fundraising call. Here is your chance to get involved with NABS and help with projects that benefit our organization. The conference line and access code is as followed. Phone: 712-770-5197 Access Code: 265660. We look forward to you joining us on Monday December 11th at 9 pm Eastern. Best, Dustin Cather Co-Chair of the NABS Fundraising Committee. From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 15:18:49 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:18:49 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Managing My Kid Message-ID: <5B2F63FD-7543-43DD-A860-C4661D5F86C8@yahoo.com> Dear All, I am hoping to go on a Key Club shopping trip with a kid assigned to me. We have to keep a close eye on him or her and help him or her pick out items. These kids are rather poor, and we are to buy some necessities and some toys for them. We are allowed to go with other pairs of students with kids. We hope to have a 1 to 1 ratio of students and kids. I could go with a group of them, but are there any suggestions on keeping up with my kid and helping them pick out items? Should I go with a group or just my kid and I? I want to be fairly independent and be helpful. Thank you! Sincely, Ahbee Sent from my iPad From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 16:06:12 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 11:06:12 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Managing My Kid In-Reply-To: <5B2F63FD-7543-43DD-A860-C4661D5F86C8@yahoo.com> References: <5B2F63FD-7543-43DD-A860-C4661D5F86C8@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <30761DB2-A279-470C-A506-DD81280DD806@gmail.com> I think just you and your kid should go shopping it would be fun for both of you you could use your cane while in the store and help them pick out items Sent from my iPad > On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear All, > > I am hoping to go on a Key Club shopping trip with a kid assigned to me. We have to keep a close eye on him or her and help him or her pick out items. These kids are rather poor, and we are to buy some necessities and some toys for them. We are allowed to go with other pairs of students with kids. We hope to have a 1 to 1 ratio of students and kids. I could go with a group of them, but are there any suggestions on keeping up with my kid and helping them pick out items? Should I go with a group or just my kid and I? I want to be fairly independent and be helpful. Thank you! > > Sincely, > Ahbee > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From kenia.flores101 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 18:03:16 2017 From: kenia.flores101 at gmail.com (Kenia Flores) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:03:16 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Advocacy Committee Call: Tuesday, December 12 Message-ID: <176A6E09-8E4D-48A7-99AC-F462AFEA1E44@gmail.com> Good afternoon, fellow students, The legislative advocacy committee will be holding its monthly conference call next Tuesday, December 12 at 9:00 pm eastern. The call-in number is 712-770-5197, and the access code is 265669. We look forward to speaking with you all then. Best, Kenia Flores Kenia Flores Co-Chair, NABS Legislative Advocacy Committee From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 19:23:02 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 14:23:02 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Managing My Kid In-Reply-To: <30761DB2-A279-470C-A506-DD81280DD806@gmail.com> References: <5B2F63FD-7543-43DD-A860-C4661D5F86C8@yahoo.com> <30761DB2-A279-470C-A506-DD81280DD806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a26f217.db866b0a.2a6e8.21c6@mx.google.com> If the group is meant to go together, you probably should go with the group, to keep things fun for all the kids and also to let them implicitly know you can keep up. Maybe see if you can spend enough time with your kid alone so you can identify their voice from all the others. If the kid is responsible/old enough, see if they'd be willing to guide you. If not, consider walking with one of the adults instead. Be sure to let your kid know what you need, and ask questions. Kid: "That's so cool!" You: "That sounds awesome! Can you tell me about it? What's its colour? What's the best thing about it?" Obviously modify as needed, but keep the conversation going and understand that you'll really have to verbalize all of your needs here, as kids don't tend to get it too well that pointing won't work... You can also try the "I have eyes in my hands so have to hold things to see them" trick, but this may not work with kids old enough to know you're not speaking literally... Good luck, and have fun! Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L Sent: December 5, 2017 11:06 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: rbacchus228 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Managing My Kid I think just you and your kid should go shopping it would be fun for both of you you could use your cane while in the store and help them pick out items Sent from my iPad > On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear All, > > I am hoping to go on a Key Club shopping trip with a kid assigned to me. We have to keep a close eye on him or her and help him or her pick out items. These kids are rather poor, and we are to buy some necessities and some toys for them. We are allowed to go with other pairs of students with kids. We hope to have a 1 to 1 ratio of students and kids. I could go with a group of them, but are there any suggestions on keeping up with my kid and helping them pick out items? Should I go with a group or just my kid and I? I want to be fairly independent and be helpful. Thank you! > > Sincely, > Ahbee > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue Dec 5 20:17:14 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:17:14 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Managing My Kid In-Reply-To: <5B2F63FD-7543-43DD-A860-C4661D5F86C8@yahoo.com> References: <5B2F63FD-7543-43DD-A860-C4661D5F86C8@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <64E0FDD5B6E34A869AA010AC3CE3CE13@OwnerPC> I'd say definitely go with a group; otherwise you have to have some sighted help from the store. It will be more fun and interactive doing it with students you know. Do you have any vision? If not you will need the kid to be real verbal. Ask him or her what they want to buy first. Then keep in mind what sort of price you want to spend. If it were me, I'd find out pricing or a ballpark price number before hand. If you cannot see the toys, then maybe your kid can describe them and what they are. If they cannot do that and some cannot due to their age or limited english, then ask a fellow student. Toys now a days are wrapped up in boxes and everything feels similar. If your kid wants something like stuffed animals or balls, then you might have a better opportunity to help them. Its my experience you can touch the stuffed animals; not always in boxes and even the boxed ones have an opening you can touch them. The balls are often out of boxes too. As far as independence, you can be more independent if you know the layout of the store roughly like know where the cash register is. This way once you are done shopping you can take the kid right over to buy it and not have to wait for a sighted group member to help you. So, my advice is try to go to the store beforehand to get a feel for the layout and what types of merchandise is there. This visual shopping is why I never did a kid shopping spree although I had that opportunity to do that with many nonprofits. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:18 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Ahbee Orton Subject: [nabs-l] Managing My Kid Dear All, I am hoping to go on a Key Club shopping trip with a kid assigned to me. We have to keep a close eye on him or her and help him or her pick out items. These kids are rather poor, and we are to buy some necessities and some toys for them. We are allowed to go with other pairs of students with kids. We hope to have a 1 to 1 ratio of students and kids. I could go with a group of them, but are there any suggestions on keeping up with my kid and helping them pick out items? Should I go with a group or just my kid and I? I want to be fairly independent and be helpful. Thank you! Sincely, Ahbee Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 23:17:20 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:17:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] college and travel question Message-ID: <024b01d36e1f$33f0ffb0$9bd2ff10$@gmail.com> Dear all, I was on a mobility lesson today and I had to cross a busy parking lot. My teacher told me that I will have to rely on another mode of transportation other than a bus. I thought there must be another way to do parking lots in a safe way that doesn't need me to use something that will take me directly to the location. I was wondering how blind people accomplish something like this? Thanks, Nesma From eemcrew at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 00:18:01 2017 From: eemcrew at gmail.com (Ellana Crew) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:18:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] college and travel question In-Reply-To: <024b01d36e1f$33f0ffb0$9bd2ff10$@gmail.com> References: <024b01d36e1f$33f0ffb0$9bd2ff10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0734832E-33E5-47E1-8201-81C87A03BD3B@gmail.com> Hi Nesma, To clarify, are you asking if there is an alternative way to deal with parking lots besides walking and navigating through them? Ellana Crew, President Maryland Association of Blind Students 443-758-7211 nfbmd.org/students facebook.com/mdabs.federation @MDABS_NFB The Maryland Association of Blind Students knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind students because low expectations create obstacles between blind students and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > On Dec 5, 2017, at 6:17 PM, nesma aly via NABS-L wrote: > > I was on a mobility lesson today and I had to cross a busy parking lot. My > teacher told me that I will have to rely on another mode of transportation > other than a bus. I thought there must be another way to do parking lots in > a safe way that doesn't need me to use something that will take me directly > to the location. I was wondering how blind people accomplish something like > this? From desai1shikha at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 04:14:40 2017 From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:14:40 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Need help please with my internship and Washington seminar Message-ID: <8E7A184A-D479-40BD-9BAC-ACA043F533E9@gmail.com> Hello, I booked my plane ticket to Washington seminar on Tuesday December 5. On Wednesday December 6 my supervisor for my internship told me that on January 31 and February 1 she wants me to attend a meeting on both Wednesday and Thursday when I will be in dc. I worked extra 16 hours this semester and I immediately emailed my supervisor after looking at the dates of the invite. I am not sure if i should cancel my trip when i had a hard time convincing my parents. I will be getting to dc Saturday jan 27 and leaving feb 1 evening. I am also having trouble finding roommates because a lot of people from Georgia don't attend Washington seminar. I am not sure what to do. Thanks, Shikha. From mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 04:28:59 2017 From: mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:28:59 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Statistics and graphics question Message-ID: <7567E3E7-48A2-4F87-AF55-9B7EB0E83F0D@gmail.com> Hi all, My name is Mausam Mehta, and I'm a senior in high school. This year, I'm taking AP statistics, and I was wondering if any of you have taken the course. There are parts of the curriculum that are extremely reliant upon The construction of graphs, and I'm unsure what to expect on the actual AP exam itself. I'm assuming that the braille test will not require me to actually draw anything, because that's pretty impractical. However, College Bord is Notorious for not having practice materials in braille, so I don't know for sure. Thoughts? Thanks. Mausam. From misokwak12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 04:38:30 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 20:38:30 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] Statistics and graphics question In-Reply-To: <7567E3E7-48A2-4F87-AF55-9B7EB0E83F0D@gmail.com> References: <7567E3E7-48A2-4F87-AF55-9B7EB0E83F0D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mausam, Disclaimer: I have not taken AP Statistics course when I was in high school... and it has been longer than I would like to admit since I graduated high school. That being said, have you tried asking College Board to send you a sample test in Braille? I remember getting a sample test for AP Chemistry when I was in high school. I also remember having someone help me draw necessary graph for AP Chemistry and AP Economics during the actual AP exam. I instructed this person on how to draw what I needed to draw. For instance, I would say, please draw X axis, a horizontal line then on the left side of that line draw the Y axis, a vertical line. Please label the X axis such and such Y axis this and that. This is a tedious process obviously but there was only one or two graphs I needed to produce on each Chemistry and Econ exam, so it was not super time consuming. I think the hardest part of this process was finding the person who can help you with this process since that person would have to be knowledgeable enough about the subject but also be able to just do only whatever you tell them to do without interfering with their own knowledge. Hope you can work things out. --Miso On 12/6/17, Mausam Mehta via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > My name is Mausam Mehta, and I'm a senior in high school. This year, I'm > taking AP statistics, and I was wondering if any of you have taken the > course. There are parts of the curriculum that are extremely reliant upon > The construction of graphs, and I'm unsure what to expect on the actual AP > exam itself. I'm assuming that the braille test will not require me to > actually draw anything, because that's pretty impractical. However, College > Bord is Notorious for not having practice materials in braille, so I don't > know for sure. Thoughts? > Thanks. > Mausam. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From veronica.gaspa at student.shu.edu Thu Dec 7 06:56:26 2017 From: veronica.gaspa at student.shu.edu (Veronica R Gaspa) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:56:26 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Need help please with my internship and Washington seminar In-Reply-To: <8E7A184A-D479-40BD-9BAC-ACA043F533E9@gmail.com> References: <8E7A184A-D479-40BD-9BAC-ACA043F533E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Shikha, Well I do need a room for Sunday night, so I could help you their. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shikha via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 11:15 PM To: National Association of Blind Students Cc: Shikha Subject: [nabs-l] Need help please with my internship and Washington seminar Hello, I booked my plane ticket to Washington seminar on Tuesday December 5. On Wednesday December 6 my supervisor for my internship told me that on January 31 and February 1 she wants me to attend a meeting on both Wednesday and Thursday when I will be in dc. I worked extra 16 hours this semester and I immediately emailed my supervisor after looking at the dates of the invite. I am not sure if i should cancel my trip when i had a hard time convincing my parents. I will be getting to dc Saturday jan 27 and leaving feb 1 evening. I am also having trouble finding roommates because a lot of people from Georgia don't attend Washington seminar. I am not sure what to do. Thanks, Shikha. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student.shu.edu From luke.schwinck at hotmail.com Fri Dec 8 04:07:04 2017 From: luke.schwinck at hotmail.com (luke schwinck) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 04:07:04 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Event planning!!! Message-ID: Hello my fellow blind students! Just a friendly reminder that Washington seminar is almost upon us. With that comes our last opportunity to put finishing touches on our fun student run events by the NABS event planning committee. If you would like to be a part of that please come join our conference call next Thursday December 14th at 9pm eastern time. All you need to bring is your ideas and willingness to share them. The call in number is ‭1 (712) 770-5197 and the pin is 265669‬. If you have any questions leading up to the call all you have to do is ask. My email is luke.schwinck at hotmail.com. Talk to you all soon! Best regards, Luke A. Schwinck Chair | NABS Event Planning Committee From amieelsabo at gmail.com Fri Dec 8 22:14:57 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 15:14:57 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Perform-Talk] Take part In Our Holiday Fund Raiser, Win A Prize, And Help A Child's Wish Come True In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Dunphy via Perform-talk Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 00:50:17 -0500 Subject: [Perform-Talk] Take part In Our Holiday Fund Raiser, Win A Prize, And Help A Child's Wish Come True To: Performing Arts Division list Cc: David Dunphy Hello All! Hope this holiday season is treating everyone well. I'm posting the following here because I wanted to let you all know about something my online radio station, 195 The Globe, is doing to raise money for children during this holiday season: Want to contribute to The Make A Wish Foundation, help a terminally ill child's wish come true and be in the running for one of our prizes including ITunes gift cards, Uber cards, and an exciting package? Learn more about the 195 The Globe 12 Days Of Giving Holiday Fund raiser, which includes an exciting 24 hour radiothon on December 17. More details will be released the prizes in the next few days, but an exciting amazon package is up for grabs, a 50 dollar best buy gift card, and more. You can learn more and see what we're doing at http://195theglobe.com/index.php/the-make-a-wish-fundraiser-has-launched/ Please spread the word, let's see if we can break the record of what we raised last year. >From David Dunphy _______________________________________________ Perform-talk mailing list Perform-talk at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/perform-talk_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Perform-talk: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/perform-talk_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com hello all, here's a wonderful way to get and give for someone and to a wonderful cause called make a wish! read on and pass this onto all of your friends, family, and others to raise money for a wonderful cause and, also enjoy some awesome Christmas music too! hugs, amy From keribcu at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 15:23:32 2017 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 10:23:32 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] GRE question Message-ID: <050ce0b8-dce3-2950-ad02-c1c718a39695@gmail.com> Have any of you taken the computerized GRE? Also, how did the rest of you take the GRE? I'm trying to decide which way will be best for me, and I'm looking for good and bad from all the ways you guys have taken it. thanks, -- Keri Svendsen From nabs.president at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 15:33:08 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 10:33:08 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] GRE question In-Reply-To: <050ce0b8-dce3-2950-ad02-c1c718a39695@gmail.com> References: <050ce0b8-dce3-2950-ad02-c1c718a39695@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004a01d37103$03d074f0$0b715ed0$@gmail.com> Good morning, My dear friend, Mary Fernandez, just finished her GRE electronically. I'm sure she'd be happy to shed light on her experience. Mary is copied on this message. Good luck, Kathryn Webster President -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 10:24 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: [nabs-l] GRE question Have any of you taken the computerized GRE? Also, how did the rest of you take the GRE? I'm trying to decide which way will be best for me, and I'm looking for good and bad from all the ways you guys have taken it. thanks, -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.c om From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 22:36:38 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 15:36:38 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] sendspace vs dropbox Message-ID: hello all, I hope that you are all having a good weekend so far! I have been trying to send a particular folder of my Christmas music to a friend of mine by using sendspace and, no success at all! so, I was was curious which one do any of you use for file sharing of file folders of files that you have uploaded and, sent to a particular friend like sendspace or dropbox? which one did you prefer and, which one is more user friendly for uploading multiple files in a particular folder by using either sendspace or dropbox? I just want your opinions and ideas on this topic that's all! thanks, amy From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 22:41:45 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:41:45 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] sendspace vs dropbox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <042001d3713f$1c60a350$5521e9f0$@gmail.com> Probably dropbox; that's what I'd use. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 5:37 PM To: Performing Arts Division list ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; NFB of Colorado Discussion List Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: [nabs-l] sendspace vs dropbox hello all, I hope that you are all having a good weekend so far! I have been trying to send a particular folder of my Christmas music to a friend of mine by using sendspace and, no success at all! so, I was was curious which one do any of you use for file sharing of file folders of files that you have uploaded and, sent to a particular friend like sendspace or dropbox? which one did you prefer and, which one is more user friendly for uploading multiple files in a particular folder by using either sendspace or dropbox? I just want your opinions and ideas on this topic that's all! thanks, amy _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Dec 9 23:58:17 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 16:58:17 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox Message-ID: hello all, well, I finally got on dropbox and, downloaded the software so, I could do it on my desktop. I created a folder for all of my files to go to that particular folder than I cut and pasted them into it! then, I went to dropbox.com to launch it and, the files were there. I want to do all of the files in that particular to share to that person instead of doing each song individually! so, here's my problem how do I go about in sharing the entire folder instead of sharing each song individually for each album or singer that I created for that folder by using jfw? thanks, amy From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 17:18:00 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:18:00 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a2d6c48.423a240a.e6b2f.0e26@mx.google.com> Hi Amy, Do you have a laptop or desktop layout set for JFW? I can send instructions if I know which layout you have. :) Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: December 9, 2017 6:58 PM To: Performing Arts Division list; NFB of Colorado Discussion List; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox hello all, well, I finally got on dropbox and, downloaded the software so, I could do it on my desktop. I created a folder for all of my files to go to that particular folder than I cut and pasted them into it! then, I went to dropbox.com to launch it and, the files were there. I want to do all of the files in that particular to share to that person instead of doing each song individually! so, here's my problem how do I go about in sharing the entire folder instead of sharing each song individually for each album or singer that I created for that folder by using jfw? thanks, amy _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 17:33:39 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:33:39 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Social Science Research In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a2d6ff3.838f6b0a.ddf2b.0690@mx.google.com> Perhaps if you posted your questions here, we could help you better. What would you like to know? Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Hulme via NABS-L Sent: December 1, 2017 11:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; Elizabeth K. Mohnke Cc: James Hulme Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Social Science Research Please consult an professor in the social science field for assistance. On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I have some questions about conducting social science research, and I > am looking for someone who would be willing to talk to me about them off list. > I have already posted a message on the social science email list. > However, I know the social science email list is a rather small list. > So I thought I would post here as well. If you or anyone you know > would be willing to talk to me off list, I would greatly appreciate > hearing from you. My email address is lizmohnke at hotmail.com. > > Thanks, > Elizabeth > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail. > com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 17:46:11 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:46:11 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: Braille android tablets Message-ID: <5a2d72e3.02bd240a.c4fea.0f42@mx.google.com> Can anyone help here? Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Cavi-discuss [mailto:cavi-discuss-bounces at ciscovision.org] On Behalf Of Ikrami Ahmad Sent: November 26, 2017 1:34 AM To: cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org Subject: [Cavi-discuss] braille android tablets hello i am trying to find out the best braille android tablet. and i would love to hear your experiences with hims's braille sense polaris and humanware's brailleNote touch. it seems to me that the polaris is better in terms of hardware specs, but the touch has unique features like a real touch screen. how do you see the idea of braille tablets basically being relying on very old versions of android os? i look forward to hearing your valuable input in this matter. best regards. _______________________________________________ Cavi-discuss mailing list Manage your own subscription: Cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org http://www.ciscovision.org/mailman/listinfo/cavi-discuss From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 17:52:07 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:52:07 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: Braille android tablets In-Reply-To: <5a2d72e3.02bd240a.c4fea.0f42@mx.google.com> References: <5a2d72e3.02bd240a.c4fea.0f42@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <18351880-82BB-42EB-A64E-10157590D7E3@gmail.com> I have heard Great things about the brown out of touch I'm getting one soon Sent from my iPad > On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Sarah Jevnikar via NABS-L wrote: > > Can anyone help here? > Sarah > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cavi-discuss [mailto:cavi-discuss-bounces at ciscovision.org] On Behalf Of Ikrami Ahmad > Sent: November 26, 2017 1:34 AM > To: cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org > Subject: [Cavi-discuss] braille android tablets > > hello > i am trying to find out the best braille android tablet. and i would love to hear your experiences with hims's braille sense polaris and humanware's brailleNote touch. it seems to me that the polaris is better in terms of hardware specs, but the touch has unique features like a real touch screen. > how do you see the idea of braille tablets basically being relying on very old versions of android os? > i look forward to hearing your valuable input in this matter. > best regards. > > _______________________________________________ > Cavi-discuss mailing list > Manage your own subscription: > Cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org > http://www.ciscovision.org/mailman/listinfo/cavi-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 18:01:34 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:01:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Please Share This Post In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a2d767e.945a240a.42bc7.0b2f@mx.google.com> Hi Armando, These posts are helpful at times, but I find that sometimes they alienate sighted people rather than educate them. It's irritating to always be thinking of how not to cause annoyance to those who can themselves be annoying, but I think in this case it's necessary. I'm not really sure what the solution is. Maybe we need to start our own reality tv show or something. Lol -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Armando Vias via NABS-L Sent: November 25, 2017 8:49 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Armando Vias Subject: [nabs-l] Please Share This Post Hey. Yesteread, I posted this on my website. It is about the sighted community. They need to understand the blind community. Here is the link to my blog post. Feel free to forward this email. The signature is not updated yet. https://baamore.wordpress.com/2017/11/24/please-spread-awareness-about-blind ness/ -- "Advocating for the sighted to understand blindness." Like my page on Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/blindnessawarenessandmore Armando Student Google Voice: (910) 803-3111 Email: armando.mailinglists at gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Sun Dec 10 18:04:29 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:04:29 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] ot/facebook help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a2d772c.d581240a.4f3a8.0f8d@mx.google.com> Hi Amy, I use http://m.facebook.com rather than the full facebook site - If you activate someone's profile either by finding them with the FB search feature or from your friends list, posting on their wall is as straightforward as typing in the edit field on that page. HTH, Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: November 24, 2017 6:28 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; NFB of Colorado Discussion List Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: [nabs-l] ot/facebook help! hello all, I hope that you all had a wonderful thanksgiving this weekend! well, I finally got back on facebook and, I see that it's now miore accessible by using jfw and, when I want to read the news feed of all of my facebook friends it won't read them. am, I doing something wrong. or, what is the keystroke to use to do this? I have read it in the accessibility menu but, how do I do this with using jfw on my computer? I can post a status but, I want to be able to read other people's statuses and, also post to their wall too! any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks, amy _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 04:10:14 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 23:10:14 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002d01d37235$f27b8210$d7728630$@gmail.com> Amy: There's an easier way to do it. Once in the Dropbox program on your PC, down-arrow to the folder you want to share and open the context menu with either the applications key or shift + F10. Go to "Share" in the context menu, press enter, and follow the prompts. Hope this helps, Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 6:58 PM To: Performing Arts Division list ; NFB of Colorado Discussion List ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox hello all, well, I finally got on dropbox and, downloaded the software so, I could do it on my desktop. I created a folder for all of my files to go to that particular folder than I cut and pasted them into it! then, I went to dropbox.com to launch it and, the files were there. I want to do all of the files in that particular to share to that person instead of doing each song individually! so, here's my problem how do I go about in sharing the entire folder instead of sharing each song individually for each album or singer that I created for that folder by using jfw? thanks, amy _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 13:27:10 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:27:10 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: Braille android tablets In-Reply-To: <18351880-82BB-42EB-A64E-10157590D7E3@gmail.com> References: <5a2d72e3.02bd240a.c4fea.0f42@mx.google.com> <18351880-82BB-42EB-A64E-10157590D7E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a braillenote touch and its awesome. On 12/10/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > I have heard Great things about the brown out of touch I'm getting one soon > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Sarah Jevnikar via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Can anyone help here? >> Sarah >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cavi-discuss [mailto:cavi-discuss-bounces at ciscovision.org] On Behalf >> Of Ikrami Ahmad >> Sent: November 26, 2017 1:34 AM >> To: cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org >> Subject: [Cavi-discuss] braille android tablets >> >> hello >> i am trying to find out the best braille android tablet. and i would love >> to hear your experiences with hims's braille sense polaris and humanware's >> brailleNote touch. it seems to me that the polaris is better in terms of >> hardware specs, but the touch has unique features like a real touch >> screen. >> how do you see the idea of braille tablets basically being relying on very >> old versions of android os? >> i look forward to hearing your valuable input in this matter. >> best regards. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cavi-discuss mailing list >> Manage your own subscription: >> Cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org >> http://www.ciscovision.org/mailman/listinfo/cavi-discuss >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From jldail13 at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 13:38:27 2017 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:38:27 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: Braille android tablets In-Reply-To: References: <5a2d72e3.02bd240a.c4fea.0f42@mx.google.com> <18351880-82BB-42EB-A64E-10157590D7E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <70A95939-5A78-4BF0-818E-1B9CF877CE2C@gmail.com> Hi, Yes, I have one as well. They're amazing. I absolutely love mine. I have found applications, that I did not think would be accessible, that work perfectly well. Speaking of applications, does anyone know how a user can submit applications to Humanware's directory? Sent from my Apple Watch On Dec 11, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > I have a braillenote touch and its awesome. > > On 12/10/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >> I have heard Great things about the brown out of touch I'm getting one soon >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Sarah Jevnikar via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone help here? >>> Sarah >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Cavi-discuss [mailto:cavi-discuss-bounces at ciscovision.org] On Behalf >>> Of Ikrami Ahmad >>> Sent: November 26, 2017 1:34 AM >>> To: cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org >>> Subject: [Cavi-discuss] braille android tablets >>> >>> hello >>> i am trying to find out the best braille android tablet. and i would love >>> to hear your experiences with hims's braille sense polaris and humanware's >>> brailleNote touch. it seems to me that the polaris is better in terms of >>> hardware specs, but the touch has unique features like a real touch >>> screen. >>> how do you see the idea of braille tablets basically being relying on very >>> old versions of android os? >>> i look forward to hearing your valuable input in this matter. >>> best regards. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cavi-discuss mailing list >>> Manage your own subscription: >>> Cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org >>> http://www.ciscovision.org/mailman/listinfo/cavi-discuss >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 03:55:40 2017 From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:55:40 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Upcoming membership call Message-ID: Dear Students, I hope this email finds all of you well. I know all of you are very busy as you power through the end of your classes. Plus the holidays are approaching so we are in the middle of a very exciting time. I am here to invite all of you to our monthly membership call. It is on December 17 at eight o'clock eastern standard time. This membership call will have two sections. We will have a speaker giving a presentation on the topic of spending time with family and friends during holidays as a blind person. We will also have a presentation on what we can do to better ourselves for the new year. There is no time like the present to start making some changes to enhance and better ourselves. Remember blindness is not the characteristic that defines us. I look forward to having all of you join us ! The calling information is as follows: Call: 712-770-5197 Access code: 265669 All the best, Tarik Williams ------------------------------ From louvins at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 13:42:39 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 07:42:39 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: Braille android tablets In-Reply-To: <70A95939-5A78-4BF0-818E-1B9CF877CE2C@gmail.com> References: <5a2d72e3.02bd240a.c4fea.0f42@mx.google.com> <18351880-82BB-42EB-A64E-10157590D7E3@gmail.com> <70A95939-5A78-4BF0-818E-1B9CF877CE2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I also have a braille note touch and it is amazing. I can check email, do research online and download apps that I need like google home which I use to set up and modify my google home smart speaker. I know for a college setting the braille note touch is indispensible and very much needed. On 12/11/17, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > Yes, I have one as well. They're amazing. I absolutely love mine. I have > found applications, that I did not think would be accessible, that work > perfectly well. Speaking of applications, does anyone know how a user can > submit applications to Humanware's directory? > > Sent from my Apple Watch > > On Dec 11, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L > wrote: > >> I have a braillenote touch and its awesome. >> >> On 12/10/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >>> I have heard Great things about the brown out of touch I'm getting one >>> soon >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Sarah Jevnikar via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can anyone help here? >>>> Sarah >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Cavi-discuss [mailto:cavi-discuss-bounces at ciscovision.org] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Ikrami Ahmad >>>> Sent: November 26, 2017 1:34 AM >>>> To: cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org >>>> Subject: [Cavi-discuss] braille android tablets >>>> >>>> hello >>>> i am trying to find out the best braille android tablet. and i would >>>> love >>>> to hear your experiences with hims's braille sense polaris and >>>> humanware's >>>> brailleNote touch. it seems to me that the polaris is better in terms >>>> of >>>> hardware specs, but the touch has unique features like a real touch >>>> screen. >>>> how do you see the idea of braille tablets basically being relying on >>>> very >>>> old versions of android os? >>>> i look forward to hearing your valuable input in this matter. >>>> best regards. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cavi-discuss mailing list >>>> Manage your own subscription: >>>> Cavi-discuss at ciscovision.org >>>> http://www.ciscovision.org/mailman/listinfo/cavi-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From discoduck221 at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 05:32:30 2017 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:32:30 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message Message-ID: Hello To Everyone! This is David Dunphy, asking each of you to read what I have to say here. I will be as brief as I can, but I have three things I want to put out here for you. 1. Apologies: Since some objections were raised off list, I want to begin by apologizing for the post about the launch of 195 The Globe to this list that came out last Saturday. . Initially, KJSC Radio was doing coverage for Nabs convention events and similar things. With KJSC Radio having been shut down, 195 The Globe was supposed to be taking over those responsibilities, which is why you received the notification of our launch on this list. However, this, too, has changed. Please read below. But to anyone who was offended, I as owner take full responsibility for that and apologize. 2. I sadly regret to inform you all that as of this time, 195 The Globe will not be covering any nabs events of any kind. This includes phone calls, national convention meetings, etc. While sometimes we promoted things that may not be directly related to students, there have been several occasions where I and Chris Nusbaum in particular has done things directly related to Nabs with The Blind Side and similar programming. Even when this has happened, people have sent to the list and to us complaints about the content. We as a station and a group very much support students. They are not only the future of an empowering organization like this, but many people, including myself when I was in college, wouldn't even know what's available to students if it wasn't for Nabs. That being said, it is very clear that there isn't a clear direction as to how we as a station can best serve this organization in a way that will be as positive as possible to all people. Obviously, not one size fits all, but there has been enough concern raised that it is clear that things aren't being done in a way that is as suitable to membership here as a whole as it should be. While positive feedback and encouragement for us to keep going with our coverage would be great to read, if you would like to see the globe or another station covering your organization's events, please contact the president or your other board members. You have elected them to serve you, and they are moderators to this list, too. So contact them. We are happy to work with them to provide content to you in a way that would be more positive. But clearly, there is some misdirection and disagreement as to how that should be done, and in order to keep our station going well and in a positive light, and to keep your organization happy, we are pulling out of all Nabs related coverage until such time as we are told how we can best serve you by your leadership. If we are no longer given this opportunity, it was an honor personally for me to have recorded and streamed your calls and to have been part of your national convention meetings. I hope for the opportunity to serve you in this way again, but it will be up to your leadership and to you. Should you wish to get in touch with me, please email me at ddunphy at 195theglobe.com but I would encourage you to contact your board if you'd like us as a station to be involved again. 3. I'm including at the end of this email for those who would like to keep up with the globe information for doing just that. If this is of no interest to you, you can safely close your email down or move on to your next messages that you would like to read. But for those who are interested, since no more emails will be sent out, at least at this time, about what's going on with the globe, read below this message so you know how to keep up. Thank you for taking the time to read my email, and I hope you all have a happy holiday. All the best, David Dunphy ***Globe Information*** Web Site: http://www.195theglobe.com Twitter:' 195_theglobe Facebook Page: http://facebook.com/195theglobe or http://m.facebook.com/195theglobe Our facebook group can be found at https://m.facebook.com/groups/293344851146439?refid=27 You can find us on TuneIn radio or ask Alexa to play 195 The Globe On Tunein Listen by telephone at 605-468-5783 Our teamtalk server is at tthub.org with ports 10064 And I can be emailed at ddunphy at 195theglobe.com or through the contact page on the site, which is where you can also support our holiday fund raiser for Make A Wish and maybe win a prize should you wish. From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 16:07:22 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (NABS President | Kathryn Webster) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:07:22 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003201d3729a$21b44a30$651cde90$@gmail.com> Good morning David: Is there a reason 195 The Globe has not reached out to the NABS Board, or myself to discuss this further? Sorry if there are any harmed feelings involved, but I personally love supporting our blind students in their pursuit to a successful life, which would include your endeavors. Love, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Dunphy via NABS-L Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:33 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Dunphy Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message Hello To Everyone! This is David Dunphy, asking each of you to read what I have to say here. I will be as brief as I can, but I have three things I want to put out here for you. 1. Apologies: Since some objections were raised off list, I want to begin by apologizing for the post about the launch of 195 The Globe to this list that came out last Saturday. . Initially, KJSC Radio was doing coverage for Nabs convention events and similar things. With KJSC Radio having been shut down, 195 The Globe was supposed to be taking over those responsibilities, which is why you received the notification of our launch on this list. However, this, too, has changed. Please read below. But to anyone who was offended, I as owner take full responsibility for that and apologize. 2. I sadly regret to inform you all that as of this time, 195 The Globe will not be covering any nabs events of any kind. This includes phone calls, national convention meetings, etc. While sometimes we promoted things that may not be directly related to students, there have been several occasions where I and Chris Nusbaum in particular has done things directly related to Nabs with The Blind Side and similar programming. Even when this has happened, people have sent to the list and to us complaints about the content. We as a station and a group very much support students. They are not only the future of an empowering organization like this, but many people, including myself when I was in college, wouldn't even know what's available to students if it wasn't for Nabs. That being said, it is very clear that there isn't a clear direction as to how we as a station can best serve this organization in a way that will be as positive as possible to all people. Obviously, not one size fits all, but there has been enough concern raised that it is clear that things aren't being done in a way that is as suitable to membership here as a whole as it should be. While positive feedback and encouragement for us to keep going with our coverage would be great to read, if you would like to see the globe or another station covering your organization's events, please contact the president or your other board members. You have elected them to serve you, and they are moderators to this list, too. So contact them. We are happy to work with them to provide content to you in a way that would be more positive. But clearly, there is some misdirection and disagreement as to how that should be done, and in order to keep our station going well and in a positive light, and to keep your organization happy, we are pulling out of all Nabs related coverage until such time as we are told how we can best serve you by your leadership. If we are no longer given this opportunity, it was an honor personally for me to have recorded and streamed your calls and to have been part of your national convention meetings. I hope for the opportunity to serve you in this way again, but it will be up to your leadership and to you. Should you wish to get in touch with me, please email me at ddunphy at 195theglobe.com but I would encourage you to contact your board if you'd like us as a station to be involved again. 3. I'm including at the end of this email for those who would like to keep up with the globe information for doing just that. If this is of no interest to you, you can safely close your email down or move on to your next messages that you would like to read. But for those who are interested, since no more emails will be sent out, at least at this time, about what's going on with the globe, read below this message so you know how to keep up. Thank you for taking the time to read my email, and I hope you all have a happy holiday. All the best, David Dunphy ***Globe Information*** Web Site: http://www.195theglobe.com Twitter:' 195_theglobe Facebook Page: http://facebook.com/195theglobe or http://m.facebook.com/195theglobe Our facebook group can be found at https://m.facebook.com/groups/293344851146439?refid=27 You can find us on TuneIn radio or ask Alexa to play 195 The Globe On Tunein Listen by telephone at 605-468-5783 Our teamtalk server is at tthub.org with ports 10064 And I can be emailed at ddunphy at 195theglobe.com or through the contact page on the site, which is where you can also support our holiday fund raiser for Make A Wish and maybe win a prize should you wish. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.c om From janae.burgmeier at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 16:57:00 2017 From: janae.burgmeier at gmail.com (Janae Burgmeier) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:57:00 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Fundraising call reminder. Message-ID: <2E6F7C2F-6937-4851-B499-1B6CC00B5D2F@gmail.com> Hi all! Please join us for our fundraising call this evening at 9 eastern. Call in. ‭(712) 770-5197 code. 265669 We will be discussing logistics for Washington seminar, so if you are joining us in DC this January, please attend the call. There will not be a second call this month due to the holidays. See everyone tomorrow evening Love your fundraising co chair Janae ‬ From discoduck221 at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 16:57:34 2017 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:57:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message In-Reply-To: <003201d3729a$21b44a30$651cde90$@gmail.com> References: <003201d3729a$21b44a30$651cde90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: My understanding from Chris Nusbaum was that he has been making attempts to reach out. On 12/11/17, NABS President | Kathryn Webster via NABS-L wrote: > Good morning David: > > Is there a reason 195 The Globe has not reached out to the NABS Board, or > myself to discuss this further? > > Sorry if there are any harmed feelings involved, but I personally love > supporting our blind students in their pursuit to a successful life, which > would include your endeavors. > > Love, > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Dunphy > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:33 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: David Dunphy > Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message > > Hello To Everyone! > This is David Dunphy, asking each of you to read what I have to say here. I > will be as brief as I can, but I have three things I want to put out here > for you. > 1. Apologies: > Since some objections were raised off list, I want to begin by apologizing > for the post about the launch of 195 The Globe to this list that came out > last Saturday. > . Initially, KJSC Radio was doing coverage for Nabs convention events and > similar things. With KJSC Radio having been shut down, 195 The Globe was > supposed to be taking over those responsibilities, which is why you > received > the notification of our launch on this list. However, this, too, has > changed. Please read below. But to anyone who was offended, I as owner take > full responsibility for that and apologize. > 2. I sadly regret to inform you all that as of this time, 195 The Globe > will > not be covering any nabs events of any kind. This includes phone calls, > national convention meetings, etc. While sometimes we promoted things that > may not be directly related to students, there have been several occasions > where I and Chris Nusbaum in particular has done things directly related to > Nabs with The Blind Side and similar programming. Even when this has > happened, people have sent to the list and to us complaints about the > content. We as a station and a group very much support students. They are > not only the future of an empowering organization like this, but many > people, including myself when I was in college, wouldn't even know what's > available to students if it wasn't for Nabs. > That being said, it is very clear that there isn't a clear direction as to > how we as a station can best serve this organization in a way that will be > as positive as possible to all people. Obviously, not one size fits all, > but > there has been enough concern raised that it is clear that things aren't > being done in a way that is as suitable to membership here as a whole as it > should be. > While positive feedback and encouragement for us to keep going with our > coverage would be great to read, if you would like to see the globe or > another station covering your organization's events, please contact the > president or your other board members. You have elected them to serve you, > and they are moderators to this list, too. > So contact them. We are happy to work with them to provide content to you > in > a way that would be more positive. But clearly, there is some misdirection > and disagreement as to how that should be done, and in order to keep our > station going well and in a positive light, and to keep your organization > happy, we are pulling out of all Nabs related coverage until such time as > we > are told how we can best serve you by your leadership. If we are no longer > given this opportunity, it was an honor personally for me to have recorded > and streamed your calls and to have been part of your national convention > meetings. I hope for the opportunity to serve you in this way again, but it > will be up to your leadership and to you. > Should you wish to get in touch with me, please email me at > ddunphy at 195theglobe.com but I would encourage you to contact your board if > you'd like us as a station to be involved again. > > 3. I'm including at the end of this email for those who would like to keep > up with the globe information for doing just that. If this is of no > interest > to you, you can safely close your email down or move on to your next > messages that you would like to read. > But for those who are interested, since no more emails will be sent out, at > least at this time, about what's going on with the globe, read below this > message so you know how to keep up. Thank you for taking the time to read > my > email, and I hope you all have a happy holiday. > All the best, > David Dunphy > > ***Globe Information*** > Web Site: > http://www.195theglobe.com > Twitter:' > 195_theglobe > Facebook Page: > http://facebook.com/195theglobe > or > http://m.facebook.com/195theglobe > Our facebook group can be found at > https://m.facebook.com/groups/293344851146439?refid=27 > You can find us on TuneIn radio or ask Alexa to play 195 The Globe On > Tunein > Listen by telephone at 605-468-5783 Our teamtalk server is at tthub.org > with > ports 10064 And I can be emailed at ddunphy at 195theglobe.com or through the > contact page on the site, which is where you can also support our holiday > fund raiser for Make A Wish and maybe win a prize should you wish. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gmail.com > From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 17:15:58 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (NABS President | Kathryn Webster) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:15:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message In-Reply-To: References: <003201d3729a$21b44a30$651cde90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ba01d372a3$b6720dc0$23562940$@gmail.com> David, you are so right! Chris called me yesterday afternoon, but unfortunately I was at work. I returned his call this morning, so we are playing a little bit of phone tag, as his phone was off. In any case, I am excited to speak with both you and Chris as we move forward, whether or not we collaborate. If you have any questions, please email me individually, as I don't want to clutter the list. Love, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: David Dunphy [mailto:discoduck221 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:58 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: NABS President | Kathryn Webster Subject: Re: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message My understanding from Chris Nusbaum was that he has been making attempts to reach out. On 12/11/17, NABS President | Kathryn Webster via NABS-L wrote: > Good morning David: > > Is there a reason 195 The Globe has not reached out to the NABS Board, > or myself to discuss this further? > > Sorry if there are any harmed feelings involved, but I personally love > supporting our blind students in their pursuit to a successful life, > which would include your endeavors. > > Love, > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David > Dunphy via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:33 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: David Dunphy > Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message > > Hello To Everyone! > This is David Dunphy, asking each of you to read what I have to say > here. I will be as brief as I can, but I have three things I want to > put out here for you. > 1. Apologies: > Since some objections were raised off list, I want to begin by > apologizing for the post about the launch of 195 The Globe to this > list that came out last Saturday. > . Initially, KJSC Radio was doing coverage for Nabs convention events > and similar things. With KJSC Radio having been shut down, 195 The > Globe was supposed to be taking over those responsibilities, which is > why you received the notification of our launch on this list. However, > this, too, has changed. Please read below. But to anyone who was > offended, I as owner take full responsibility for that and apologize. > 2. I sadly regret to inform you all that as of this time, 195 The > Globe will not be covering any nabs events of any kind. This includes > phone calls, national convention meetings, etc. While sometimes we > promoted things that may not be directly related to students, there > have been several occasions where I and Chris Nusbaum in particular > has done things directly related to Nabs with The Blind Side and > similar programming. Even when this has happened, people have sent to > the list and to us complaints about the content. We as a station and a > group very much support students. They are not only the future of an > empowering organization like this, but many people, including myself > when I was in college, wouldn't even know what's available to students > if it wasn't for Nabs. > That being said, it is very clear that there isn't a clear direction > as to how we as a station can best serve this organization in a way > that will be as positive as possible to all people. Obviously, not one > size fits all, but there has been enough concern raised that it is > clear that things aren't being done in a way that is as suitable to > membership here as a whole as it should be. > While positive feedback and encouragement for us to keep going with > our coverage would be great to read, if you would like to see the > globe or another station covering your organization's events, please > contact the president or your other board members. You have elected > them to serve you, and they are moderators to this list, too. > So contact them. We are happy to work with them to provide content to > you in a way that would be more positive. But clearly, there is some > misdirection and disagreement as to how that should be done, and in > order to keep our station going well and in a positive light, and to > keep your organization happy, we are pulling out of all Nabs related > coverage until such time as we are told how we can best serve you by > your leadership. If we are no longer given this opportunity, it was an > honor personally for me to have recorded and streamed your calls and > to have been part of your national convention meetings. I hope for the > opportunity to serve you in this way again, but it will be up to your > leadership and to you. > Should you wish to get in touch with me, please email me at > ddunphy at 195theglobe.com but I would encourage you to contact your > board if you'd like us as a station to be involved again. > > 3. I'm including at the end of this email for those who would like to > keep up with the globe information for doing just that. If this is of > no interest to you, you can safely close your email down or move on to > your next messages that you would like to read. > But for those who are interested, since no more emails will be sent > out, at least at this time, about what's going on with the globe, read > below this message so you know how to keep up. Thank you for taking > the time to read my email, and I hope you all have a happy holiday. > All the best, > David Dunphy > > ***Globe Information*** > Web Site: > http://www.195theglobe.com > Twitter:' > 195_theglobe > Facebook Page: > http://facebook.com/195theglobe > or > http://m.facebook.com/195theglobe > Our facebook group can be found at > https://m.facebook.com/groups/293344851146439?refid=27 > You can find us on TuneIn radio or ask Alexa to play 195 The Globe On > Tunein Listen by telephone at 605-468-5783 Our teamtalk server is at > tthub.org with ports 10064 And I can be emailed at > ddunphy at 195theglobe.com or through the contact page on the site, which > is where you can also support our holiday fund raiser for Make A Wish > and maybe win a prize should you wish. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40g > mail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gma > il.com > From tyler at tysdomain.com Mon Dec 11 17:29:50 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:29:50 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message In-Reply-To: <003201d3729a$21b44a30$651cde90$@gmail.com> References: <003201d3729a$21b44a30$651cde90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello: As one of those who has been vocal about whether or not messages that promote this radio show are on the list, I appreciate the message below. I have hoped that as NFB was and is live-streaming events now, NABS could fall under this and have professional live streaming for their meetings. This isn't an attack on David or the way meetings have been streamed in the past, but simply an observation; if NFB is working with the hotel, they can hook up to the sound system in the room that the meeting is taking place in and provide a higher quality of streaming so that someone doesn't have to sit back in the audience with a quality microphone to pick up the audio from the speaker. This would help in the quality of the stream, but also for those who are hard of hearing as well. Similarly, hotel bandwidth and internet costs are generally prearranged, so that would mean that this stream would have a quality (hopefully) stable connection that could be used in this stream. This would create a better experience for the listener, and everything would be under the operations of the NFB stream. Should there be a point where the board goes forward with this radio station, I only have a few issues which I and others have pointed out. My goal is to keep this constructive but still hopefully work out some solutions to these individual issues. They are not in any way an attack on this radio station. 1) The radio station has changed a lot in the past, so this results in a lot of "last night broadcasting," "last night broadcasting tune in," and "new station" messages that are sent out to the list. The issue here is going to be keeping the information relevant to students without to much clutter. For example, many people seem to differ on the opinion that providing streams of calls means that other advertising needs to take place simply because this is a station that streams calls. This perhaps is why I am so strongly in favor of NABS itself creating a stream, or working with the national office to make this happen. I understand that as a result of David providing a stream he wants to be able to advertise his work, and denying that to him or anyone else while still requesting (has anyone from the board requested these streams) might be a tough pill to swallow. 2) I don't know how much effort went into getting interviews with everyone for the last election when there were two people running for NABS vp, but it seems that it would help greatly, should interviews be given to have a bipartisan stream with someone asking questions; this would and could probably take form in simply streaming the call that Kathryn was holding to help people get to know the candidates, rather than bringing individual candidates into a radio show. Thanks, Ty On 12/11/2017 11:07 AM, NABS President | Kathryn Webster via NABS-L wrote: > Good morning David: > > Is there a reason 195 The Globe has not reached out to the NABS Board, or > myself to discuss this further? > > Sorry if there are any harmed feelings involved, but I personally love > supporting our blind students in their pursuit to a successful life, which > would include your endeavors. > > Love, > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Dunphy > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:33 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: David Dunphy > Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message > > Hello To Everyone! > This is David Dunphy, asking each of you to read what I have to say here. I > will be as brief as I can, but I have three things I want to put out here > for you. > 1. Apologies: > Since some objections were raised off list, I want to begin by apologizing > for the post about the launch of 195 The Globe to this list that came out > last Saturday. > . Initially, KJSC Radio was doing coverage for Nabs convention events and > similar things. With KJSC Radio having been shut down, 195 The Globe was > supposed to be taking over those responsibilities, which is why you received > the notification of our launch on this list. However, this, too, has > changed. Please read below. But to anyone who was offended, I as owner take > full responsibility for that and apologize. > 2. I sadly regret to inform you all that as of this time, 195 The Globe will > not be covering any nabs events of any kind. This includes phone calls, > national convention meetings, etc. While sometimes we promoted things that > may not be directly related to students, there have been several occasions > where I and Chris Nusbaum in particular has done things directly related to > Nabs with The Blind Side and similar programming. Even when this has > happened, people have sent to the list and to us complaints about the > content. We as a station and a group very much support students. They are > not only the future of an empowering organization like this, but many > people, including myself when I was in college, wouldn't even know what's > available to students if it wasn't for Nabs. > That being said, it is very clear that there isn't a clear direction as to > how we as a station can best serve this organization in a way that will be > as positive as possible to all people. Obviously, not one size fits all, but > there has been enough concern raised that it is clear that things aren't > being done in a way that is as suitable to membership here as a whole as it > should be. > While positive feedback and encouragement for us to keep going with our > coverage would be great to read, if you would like to see the globe or > another station covering your organization's events, please contact the > president or your other board members. You have elected them to serve you, > and they are moderators to this list, too. > So contact them. We are happy to work with them to provide content to you in > a way that would be more positive. But clearly, there is some misdirection > and disagreement as to how that should be done, and in order to keep our > station going well and in a positive light, and to keep your organization > happy, we are pulling out of all Nabs related coverage until such time as we > are told how we can best serve you by your leadership. If we are no longer > given this opportunity, it was an honor personally for me to have recorded > and streamed your calls and to have been part of your national convention > meetings. I hope for the opportunity to serve you in this way again, but it > will be up to your leadership and to you. > Should you wish to get in touch with me, please email me at > ddunphy at 195theglobe.com but I would encourage you to contact your board if > you'd like us as a station to be involved again. > > 3. I'm including at the end of this email for those who would like to keep > up with the globe information for doing just that. If this is of no interest > to you, you can safely close your email down or move on to your next > messages that you would like to read. > But for those who are interested, since no more emails will be sent out, at > least at this time, about what's going on with the globe, read below this > message so you know how to keep up. Thank you for taking the time to read my > email, and I hope you all have a happy holiday. > All the best, > David Dunphy > > ***Globe Information*** > Web Site: > http://www.195theglobe.com > Twitter:' > 195_theglobe > Facebook Page: > http://facebook.com/195theglobe > or > http://m.facebook.com/195theglobe > Our facebook group can be found at > https://m.facebook.com/groups/293344851146439?refid=27 > You can find us on TuneIn radio or ask Alexa to play 195 The Globe On Tunein > Listen by telephone at 605-468-5783 Our teamtalk server is at tthub.org with > ports 10064 And I can be emailed at ddunphy at 195theglobe.com or through the > contact page on the site, which is where you can also support our holiday > fund raiser for Make A Wish and maybe win a prize should you wish. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 20:04:41 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:04:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox In-Reply-To: <002d01d37235$f27b8210$d7728630$@gmail.com> References: <002d01d37235$f27b8210$d7728630$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a2ee4d9.d370240a.403a6.8fa0@mx.google.com> OMG shift F10 has just made my existence so much easier! Thank you, Chris! Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: December 10, 2017 11:10 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] dropbox Amy: There's an easier way to do it. Once in the Dropbox program on your PC, down-arrow to the folder you want to share and open the context menu with either the applications key or shift + F10. Go to "Share" in the context menu, press enter, and follow the prompts. Hope this helps, Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 6:58 PM To: Performing Arts Division list ; NFB of Colorado Discussion List ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox hello all, well, I finally got on dropbox and, downloaded the software so, I could do it on my desktop. I created a folder for all of my files to go to that particular folder than I cut and pasted them into it! then, I went to dropbox.com to launch it and, the files were there. I want to do all of the files in that particular to share to that person instead of doing each song individually! so, here's my problem how do I go about in sharing the entire folder instead of sharing each song individually for each album or singer that I created for that folder by using jfw? thanks, amy _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 01:40:14 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:40:14 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Legislative Advocacy Committee Call: Tomorrow, December 12 References: <176A6E09-8E4D-48A7-99AC-F462AFEA1E44@gmail.com> Message-ID: <11B583A6-5D90-4026-8B8A-9968BDE04B40@gmail.com> Good afternoon, fellow students, > > The legislative advocacy committee will be holding its monthly conference call tomorrow, December 12 at 9:00 pm eastern. The call-in number is > 712-770-5197, and the access code is 265669. We look forward to speaking with you all then. > > Best, Syed From amieelsabo at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 02:36:32 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:36:32 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox In-Reply-To: <5a2ee4d9.d370240a.403a6.8fa0@mx.google.com> References: <002d01d37235$f27b8210$d7728630$@gmail.com> <5a2ee4d9.d370240a.403a6.8fa0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: thanks sarah and chris for the tips on how to use dropbox with using jfw. I have bookmarked those tips that you both gave me and, I will use them... thanks again and, I will talk to you all soon! hugs, amy On 12/11/17, Sarah Jevnikar via NABS-L wrote: > OMG shift F10 has just made my existence so much easier! Thank you, Chris! > Sarah > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum > via NABS-L > Sent: December 10, 2017 11:10 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Chris Nusbaum > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] dropbox > > Amy: > > There's an easier way to do it. Once in the Dropbox program on your PC, > down-arrow to the folder you want to share and open the context menu with > either the applications key or shift + F10. Go to "Share" in the context > menu, press enter, and follow the prompts. > > Hope this helps, > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 6:58 PM > To: Performing Arts Division list ; NFB of > Colorado > Discussion List ; National Association of Blind > Students mailing list > Cc: Amy Sabo > Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox > > hello all, > > well, I finally got on dropbox and, downloaded the software so, I could do > it on my desktop. I created a folder for all of my files to go to that > particular folder than I cut and pasted them into it! then, I went to > dropbox.com to launch it and, the files were there. I want to do all of the > files in that particular to share to that person instead of doing each song > individually! so, here's my problem how do I go about in sharing the entire > folder instead of sharing each song individually for each album or singer > that I created for that folder by using jfw? > > > > thanks, > amy > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > From amieelsabo at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 02:51:51 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:51:51 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] An Apology To The List And An Important Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello all, well, I see that there a lot of frustrations on this ttopic and, I do understand david's issue on this and, I hope that it gets straitened out! as for the station streameing the nabs events like the meeting at convention I think it's a good way for people who aren't students be able to be a part of the nabs meeting if they cannot attend the meeting in person as some of us who are students and, for those of us are students at heart! when I began on this list in 2000 there wasn't any internet streaming of any nabs events or calls which was a shame imo but, things have changed since then thanks to the advances of technology and the force of internet radio... as for chris and dacvid working with the nabs board to solve this problem then I believe that's a work in progress and, hopefully will get solved in the upcoming year! as for viewing things aabout the station you have the right to view your opinions in a discret way but, don't offend him or the beginning of his announcements. we in the pr business are to promote this station and, the involvement with the nfb and nabs! well, that's all for now take care all and, I will talk to you all soon! hugs, amy On 12/10/17, David Dunphy via NABS-L wrote: > Hello To Everyone! > This is David Dunphy, asking each of you to read what I have to say > here. I will be as brief as I can, but I have three things I want to > put out here for you. > 1. Apologies: > Since some objections were raised off list, I want to begin by > apologizing for the post about the launch of 195 The Globe to this > list that came out last Saturday. > . Initially, KJSC Radio was doing coverage for Nabs convention events > and similar things. With KJSC Radio having been shut down, 195 The > Globe was supposed to be taking over those responsibilities, which is > why you received the notification of our launch on this list. However, > this, too, has changed. Please read below. But to anyone who was > offended, I as owner take full responsibility for that and apologize. > 2. I sadly regret to inform you all that as of this time, 195 The > Globe will not be covering any nabs events of any kind. This includes > phone calls, national convention meetings, etc. While sometimes we > promoted things that may not be directly related to students, there > have been several occasions where I and Chris Nusbaum in particular > has done things directly related to Nabs with The Blind Side and > similar programming. Even when this has happened, people have sent to > the list and to us complaints about the content. We as a station and a > group very much support students. They are not only the future of an > empowering organization like this, but many people, including myself > when I was in college, wouldn't even know what's available to students > if it wasn't for Nabs. > That being said, it is very clear that there isn't a clear direction > as to how we as a station can best serve this organization in a way > that will be as positive as possible to all people. Obviously, not one > size fits all, but there has been enough concern raised that it is > clear that things aren't being done in a way that is as suitable to > membership here as a whole as it should be. > While positive feedback and encouragement for us to keep going with > our coverage would be great to read, if you would like to see the > globe or another station covering your organization's events, please > contact the president or your other board members. You have elected > them to serve you, and they are moderators to this list, too. > So contact them. We are happy to work with them to provide content to > you in a way that would be more positive. But clearly, there is some > misdirection and disagreement as to how that should be done, and in > order to keep our station going well and in a positive light, and to > keep your organization happy, we are pulling out of all Nabs related > coverage until such time as we are told how we can best serve you by > your leadership. If we are no longer given this opportunity, it was an > honor personally for me to have recorded and streamed your calls and > to have been part of your national convention meetings. I hope for the > opportunity to serve you in this way again, but it will be up to your > leadership and to you. > Should you wish to get in touch with me, please email me at > ddunphy at 195theglobe.com > but I would encourage you to contact your board if you'd like us as a > station to be involved again. > > 3. I'm including at the end of this email for those who would like to > keep up with the globe information for doing just that. If this is of > no interest to you, you can safely close your email down or move on to > your next messages that you would like to read. > But for those who are interested, since no more emails will be sent > out, at least at this time, about what's going on with the globe, read > below this message so you know how to keep up. Thank you for taking > the time to read my email, and I hope you all have a happy holiday. > All the best, > David Dunphy > > ***Globe Information*** > Web Site: > http://www.195theglobe.com > Twitter:' > 195_theglobe > Facebook Page: > http://facebook.com/195theglobe > or > http://m.facebook.com/195theglobe > Our facebook group can be found at > https://m.facebook.com/groups/293344851146439?refid=27 > You can find us on TuneIn radio or ask Alexa to play 195 The Globe On > Tunein > Listen by telephone at 605-468-5783 > Our teamtalk server is at > tthub.org > with ports 10064 > And I can be emailed at > ddunphy at 195theglobe.com > or through the contact page on the site, which is where you can also > support our holiday fund raiser for Make A Wish and maybe win a prize > should you wish. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > From amieelsabo at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 02:54:50 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:54:50 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] ot/facebook help! In-Reply-To: <5a2d772c.d581240a.4f3a8.0f8d@mx.google.com> References: <5a2d772c.d581240a.4f3a8.0f8d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: thanks sarah for the advice... but, i already have been using the m.facebook.com site which has been working out great for me! thanks again for tyour help and, i will talk to you soon! hugs, amy On 12/10/17, Sarah Jevnikar wrote: > Hi Amy, > I use http://m.facebook.com rather than the full facebook site - If you > activate someone's profile either by finding them with the FB search > feature > or from your friends list, posting on their wall is as straightforward as > typing in the edit field on that page. > HTH, > Sarah > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via > NABS-L > Sent: November 24, 2017 6:28 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; NFB of Colorado > Discussion List > Cc: Amy Sabo > Subject: [nabs-l] ot/facebook help! > > hello all, > > I hope that you all had a wonderful thanksgiving this weekend! well, I > finally got back on facebook and, I see that it's now miore accessible by > using jfw and, when I want to read the news feed of all of my facebook > friends it won't read them. am, I doing something wrong. or, what is the > keystroke to use to do this? I have read it in the accessibility menu but, > how do I do this with using jfw on my computer? I can post a status but, I > want to be able to read other people's statuses and, also post to their > wall > too! any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > > thanks, > amy > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c > om > > From beckyasabo at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 15:17:29 2017 From: beckyasabo at gmail.com (Rebecca Sabo) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:17:29 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject) Message-ID: Hi all, I am having a problem with the prime video app on my iOs items . Does anyone have amazon disablity number ? Becky From jim.hulme at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 16:30:46 2017 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 11:30:46 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi rebecca, Please check your e-mail as I have replied back to you off list. Thank you. James Hulme jim.hulme at gmail.com On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Rebecca Sabo via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > I am having a problem with the prime video app on my iOs items . Does > anyone have amazon disablity number ? > Becky > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From arielle71 at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 18:33:28 2017 From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 13:33:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Advice on making an accessible in-class handout and PowerPoint Message-ID: Dear students, I am consulting with a psychology department that is designing a series of teaching modules to make the modules as accessible as possible. For each module, there is a PowerPoint presentation which includes graphs, and a handout that is meant to be completed in-class. The graphs in the PowerPoint have alt tags, and they are described in detail using the notes pane of each slide. There are also tactile/braille versions of the graphs that are very well-done. the package is very accessible to a PC user. However, I am curious about the most accessible format for those of you who use IOS or a braille notetaker in class. Are you guys able to open up a PowerPoint presentation in class and access the notes pane on your notetaker or iPad? What about a Word document with tables? If these PC formats don't work well, is there another format the authors can use that will open properly on a braille notetaker or iPad/other Apple device? Thanks for any advice, and feel free to reply on-list as your techniques may help other students. Arielle From robin-melvin at comcast.net Tue Dec 12 18:48:53 2017 From: robin-melvin at comcast.net (Robin) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:48:53 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] Advice on making an accessible in-class handout and PowerPoint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20171212104806.04d2e3e0@comcast.net> What about Google's ChromeBook or PixelBook with Google's Android OS or Google's Chrome OS? At 10:33 AM 12/12/2017, you wrote: >Dear students, >I am consulting with a psychology department that is designing a >series of teaching modules to make the modules as accessible as >possible. For each module, there is a PowerPoint presentation which >includes graphs, and a handout that is meant to be completed in-class. >The graphs in the PowerPoint have alt tags, and they are described in >detail using the notes pane of each slide. There are also >tactile/braille versions of the graphs that are very well-done. the >package is very accessible to a PC user. However, I am curious about >the most accessible format for those of you who use IOS or a braille >notetaker in class. Are you guys able to open up a PowerPoint >presentation in class and access the notes pane on your notetaker or >iPad? What about a Word document with tables? If these PC formats >don't work well, is there another format the authors can use that will >open properly on a braille notetaker or iPad/other Apple device? >Thanks for any advice, and feel free to reply on-list as your >techniques may help other students. >Arielle > >_______________________________________________ >NABS-L mailing list >NABS-L at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/robin-melvin%40comcast.net From sweetpeareader at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 04:40:18 2017 From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:40:18 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] questions about taking Spanish in college Message-ID: <5a30af3f.d137810a.dd8db.2033@mx.google.com> Hi All,      I hope all of you are well, successfully completing finals and gearing up for the holidays! I will be taking my first Spanish class next semester, and I have a couple of questions.      First, my professor has told me that she uses a software called Supersite Plus as a companion to the textbook, which comes from Vista Higher Learning. Has anyone ever used Supersite Plus, and is it accessible with a screen reader? If so, does it work better with one screen reader than others? Any info on Supersite Plus would be extremely helpful, as I just heard of it a few hours ago.      The professor also told me that she will use a lot of gestures, videos, and other visuals in class to avoid using English. I have never taken any college-level language courses before, so if anyone has advice for how to deal with this, please send it my way. The professor has a very good attitude, so I feel confident this will work out, I'm just looking for some tips. All Best, Sophie Trist From kassandrac at utexas.edu Wed Dec 13 05:27:03 2017 From: kassandrac at utexas.edu (Kassandra Cardenas) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:27:03 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] questions about taking Spanish in college In-Reply-To: <5a30af3f.d137810a.dd8db.2033@mx.google.com> References: <5a30af3f.d137810a.dd8db.2033@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello, As someone who has taken a language course in college before (French though, not Spanish), I might be able to provide a bit of perspective! I have never used Supersite plus before, but my class also did incorporate a specific software for language learning. The one that I used (the name escapes me) was pretty inaccessible--and it wouldn't surprise me if yours ends up being so. A lot of the way that language is taught is using images, as to not associate English with the non-English equivalent. If that software ends up being inaccessible for you, let your professor know as soon as possible. I spent valuable time trying to see if there were things I could do to get it to work for me, and consequently fell behind in out-of-class assignments. It falls on your professor or disability office to work with you though--so in my case, for example, my professor would provide me with alternative assignments from a workbook that she no longer used so that I could still get a valid grade in the course. Other options might be working with your university or twc to see if they might be able to provide you with a reader, and then working through the assignments with that person to be a visual aid for you. Re:Videos and visual components in class, I didn't have too much trouble with this area? A lot of things that your professor might be pointing at in the classroom specifically would be things that you can distinguish as being found in the classroom. In stead of my professor pointing at the blackboard or the door, she would walk over and touch these things, so I was able to still participate without her using English and thereby teaching the way that she wanted to. If she shows videos in class, they will typically be ones where it's just people talking about certain things. There will naturally be a visual component, but more often than not you will just be quizzed over what they are saying. The only time this might be an issue for you is when instead of them giving their names, it shows up on subtitles, so it would depend on what material your professor is using. If she starts pulling up images in class though, and there's no way that you can get other context, you'll just have to tell her to make her learning style accessible to a non-vision using person. There's literally no other way that you could receive the info, and you would need to to be able to keep up with the class. Basically, just communicate with your professor as much as possible. Doing well in language classes as a blind person is totally doable, you'll just have to come up with some work-arounds for certain things. If she's as easy-going as you say she is though, I'm sure it won't be an issue. Good luck! (and sorry this got so long) Best, -K On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Sophie Trist via NABS-L wrote: > Hi All, > > I hope all of you are well, successfully completing finals and > gearing up for the holidays! I will be taking my first Spanish class next > semester, and I have a couple of questions. > First, my professor has told me that she uses a software called > Supersite Plus as a companion to the textbook, which comes from Vista > Higher Learning. Has anyone ever used Supersite Plus, and is it accessible > with a screen reader? If so, does it work better with one screen reader > than others? Any info on Supersite Plus would be extremely helpful, as I > just heard of it a few hours ago. > The professor also told me that she will use a lot of gestures, > videos, and other visuals in class to avoid using English. I have never > taken any college-level language courses before, so if anyone has advice > for how to deal with this, please send it my way. The professor has a very > good attitude, so I feel confident this will work out, I'm just looking for > some tips. > > All Best, > Sophie Trist > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > kassandrac%40utexas.edu > From alpineimagination at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 06:29:12 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:29:12 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] Off-Topic: Any Student Short Story Writers? Message-ID: <5a30c8ca.6441240a.2815e.48ca@mx.google.com> Hi All, I was wondering if there are any students on here who write with their primary focus being short stories (as opposed to poetry, plays, or novels). I primarily write short stories for fun, and am trying to write more. With a writing partner we could take a look at each others' stories and motivate each other to write. (I do use the Stylist list-serv, but there are not that many people within this age group, and it is not very focussed on short stories). So as not to clutter the list any further, I ask that if you are interested, to please send me a private email offlist, at brlsurfer at gmail.com Thanks, Vejas From jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 13:19:28 2017 From: jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com (Jason Polansky) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:19:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] questions about taking Spanish in college In-Reply-To: <5a30af3f.d137810a.dd8db.2033@mx.google.com> References: <5a30af3f.d137810a.dd8db.2033@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7266634A-F9C4-48AF-BB00-938CAED95FA8@gmail.com> Hi Sophie, I think we met a few times while I was in training at the Louisiana Center. My college uses Supersite through Vista Higher Learning as well, and I used it for three semesters of Spanish. It is pretty accessible with Jaws, and buttons are well-labeled. I will say, it's very particular about how you answer. For example, it always wants you to type the subject before the verb, even in situations in which the subject is not needed. The only major issue that I had was trying to do Spanish with an English Jaws voice. I think there's a way to get Jaws to speak Spanish, but I didn't have much success figuring it out. It's also a typical web page, so there is still English on the site when it comes to the names of the links, headings, and buttons as such. Just make sure that you communicate with the professor, ask questions, and ask her or one of your peers to describe anything visual, and you should be fine. Good luck. > On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:40 PM, Sophie Trist via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > > I hope all of you are well, successfully completing finals and gearing up for the holidays! I will be taking my first Spanish class next semester, and I have a couple of questions. > First, my professor has told me that she uses a software called Supersite Plus as a companion to the textbook, which comes from Vista Higher Learning. Has anyone ever used Supersite Plus, and is it accessible with a screen reader? If so, does it work better with one screen reader than others? Any info on Supersite Plus would be extremely helpful, as I just heard of it a few hours ago. > The professor also told me that she will use a lot of gestures, videos, and other visuals in class to avoid using English. I have never taken any college-level language courses before, so if anyone has advice for how to deal with this, please send it my way. The professor has a very good attitude, so I feel confident this will work out, I'm just looking for some tips. > > All Best, > Sophie Trist > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jpolansky.nfb%40gmail.com From jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 13:49:01 2017 From: jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com (Jason Polansky) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:49:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] questions about taking Spanish in college In-Reply-To: <7266634A-F9C4-48AF-BB00-938CAED95FA8@gmail.com> References: <5a30af3f.d137810a.dd8db.2033@mx.google.com> <7266634A-F9C4-48AF-BB00-938CAED95FA8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <90AA8197-3458-43B6-A735-4D5FA46A7865@gmail.com> I should also add that when typing accent symbols, (such as A acute, E acute, I acute etc), you have to navigate to the bottom of the page with control-end to find the buttons to type them. Select the one you want, and then use the e shortcut to get back to the edit field in which you were typing your answer. There are also some questions that involve selecting an item from a combo box or radio buttons. The only ones that are not really accessible are the ones that involve matching. Overall, I would say that it's accessible, but kind of annoying and tedious at times. Luckily, it only counted for about 10% of the total grade, and the professor did take into account the accessibility factor. For all other assignments, I just used my Braille Sense notetaker and learned the braille symbols for the accent signs, which I actually already knew from high school Spanish. If you have a notetaker, I would learn those Braille symbols! That is, if you use Braille regularly. Also, your notetaker will most likely use computer braille, so you will need to learn the Spanish braille symbols for numbers, which are basically the literary numbers with a dot-6 added to them. So the number 1 is the CH symbol, 2 is the AR symbol, 3 is the SH symbol etc, and there's no number sign, and the period is dot-3. If you don't use Braille, and will be using Jaws or a screen reader for everything, then I can't really help you, but I'm sure someone else in the NFB probably could. I have heard that the Mac with VoiceOver is better for handling languages than Jaws, but I don't know how much Mac experience you have. Hope this helps. > On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:19 AM, Jason Polansky wrote: > > Hi Sophie, I think we met a few times while I was in training at the Louisiana Center. My college uses Supersite through Vista Higher Learning as well, and I used it for three semesters of Spanish. It is pretty accessible with Jaws, and buttons are well-labeled. I will say, it's very particular about how you answer. For example, it always wants you to type the subject before the verb, even in situations in which the subject is not needed. The only major issue that I had was trying to do Spanish with an English Jaws voice. I think there's a way to get Jaws to speak Spanish, but I didn't have much success figuring it out. It's also a typical web page, so there is still English on the site when it comes to the names of the links, headings, and buttons as such. Just make sure that you communicate with the professor, ask questions, and ask her or one of your peers to describe anything visual, and you should be fine. Good luck. > >> On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:40 PM, Sophie Trist via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I hope all of you are well, successfully completing finals and gearing up for the holidays! I will be taking my first Spanish class next semester, and I have a couple of questions. >> First, my professor has told me that she uses a software called Supersite Plus as a companion to the textbook, which comes from Vista Higher Learning. Has anyone ever used Supersite Plus, and is it accessible with a screen reader? If so, does it work better with one screen reader than others? Any info on Supersite Plus would be extremely helpful, as I just heard of it a few hours ago. >> The professor also told me that she will use a lot of gestures, videos, and other visuals in class to avoid using English. I have never taken any college-level language courses before, so if anyone has advice for how to deal with this, please send it my way. The professor has a very good attitude, so I feel confident this will work out, I'm just looking for some tips. >> >> All Best, >> Sophie Trist >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jpolansky.nfb%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 14:49:45 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 09:49:45 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Advice on making an accessible in-class handout andPowerPoint Message-ID: <5a313e0e.d0e20d0a.28386.38dc@mx.google.com> I am able to open powerpoints on my BrailleNote Apex. I find that Microsoft Word documents are most accessible to me. From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 16:39:38 2017 From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:39:38 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me Message-ID: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> Hello all, My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. Best, Bri Brianna Rigsbee bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (203) 751-0199 From kat.bottner at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 16:44:14 2017 From: kat.bottner at gmail.com (Kat Bottner) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:44:14 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome to theist here’s to hoping you’ll find a wealth of information for any questions you may have. Take Care, Kathryn Bottner NFB of Delaware affiliate president > On Dec 13, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, > > My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. > My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. > > If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. > > Best, > Bri > > Brianna Rigsbee > bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com > (203) 751-0199 > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kat.bottner%40gmail.com From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Wed Dec 13 17:30:02 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 12:30:02 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003001d37438$0318e4b0$094aae10$@sarahblakelarose.com> Welcome, Bri. I am a doctoral student at Anderson University in Anderson, IN, working on my Doctor of Ministry. I have one more semester of classes and then will start work on my dissertation. I also teach Biblical Hebrew in the seminary. I look forward to more teaching opportunities. I look forward to getting to know you, and I think you will find the NFB to be an invaluable resource. Rev. Sarah Blake LaRose http://www.sarahblakelarose.com Accessible instruction in Biblical languages -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:40 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Brianna Rigsbee Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me Hello all, My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. Best, Bri Brianna Rigsbee bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (203) 751-0199 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 17:34:48 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 12:34:48 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me Message-ID: <5a3164bc.d508ca0a.12b5.5187@mx.google.com> Hi Briana welcome to the list. My name is Roanna Bacchus, and I am in the process of becoming a certified braille transcriber. Last December I graduated with my Bachelor's degree in Interdisciplinary Studies from the University of Central Florida. I hope you enjoy your time here. From zdreicer at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 18:19:34 2017 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 12:19:34 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3674D5D9-FE59-44A9-A68B-C5CCC45DAD9B@gmail.com> Hello, it’s nice to meet you. Greetings from Chicago, where I’m actually just about to graduate Northern Illinois University with my undergraduate degree in rehabilitation services. Welcome to our Federation! The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:39, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, > > My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. > My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. > > If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. > > Best, > Bri > > Brianna Rigsbee > bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com > (203) 751-0199 > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 18:24:31 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:24:31 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7C037F03-01AC-4A07-8967-9C4D99E5B87F@gmail.com> Hi Brianna, Welcome, and I hope you find this list helpful. I am a sophomore at Loyola marymount University. I'm also an English major, and also like singing. Do you know what you want to do with your major? I am thinking of maybe becoming an English teacher. I also like to write short stories, but more as a hobby than anything right now. Vejas > On Dec 13, 2017, at 08:39, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, > > My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. > My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. > > If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. > > Best, > Bri > > Brianna Rigsbee > bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com > (203) 751-0199 > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From lakeria2009 at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 21:07:52 2017 From: lakeria2009 at gmail.com (LaKeria Taylor) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:07:52 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] questions about taking Spanish in college In-Reply-To: <90AA8197-3458-43B6-A735-4D5FA46A7865@gmail.com> References: <5a30af3f.d137810a.dd8db.2033@mx.google.com> <7266634A-F9C4-48AF-BB00-938CAED95FA8@gmail.com> <90AA8197-3458-43B6-A735-4D5FA46A7865@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Sophie, So I am taking French, and we're using another program, but that's besides the point. I would like to suggest doing everything that Cassy said, but in addition to her advice, try to study the vocabulary ahead of time so that when they're doing board assignments, you can somewhat understand what is going on. My professor is the same in the sense that if it's in class, she will try to walk over to whatever that she is trying to illustrate. She has also created a google docx page to put all of the writing assignments from the board into so that all of her students can go back and work on their writing. Maybe you can ask your teacher to do the same for you? On 12/13/17, Jason Polansky via NABS-L wrote: > I should also add that when typing accent symbols, (such as A acute, E > acute, I acute etc), you have to navigate to the bottom of the page with > control-end to find the buttons to type them. Select the one you want, and > then use the e shortcut to get back to the edit field in which you were > typing your answer. There are also some questions that involve selecting an > item from a combo box or radio buttons. The only ones that are not really > accessible are the ones that involve matching. Overall, I would say that > it's accessible, but kind of annoying and tedious at times. Luckily, it only > counted for about 10% of the total grade, and the professor did take into > account the accessibility factor. For all other assignments, I just used my > Braille Sense notetaker and learned the braille symbols for the accent > signs, which I actually already knew from high school Spanish. If you have a > notetaker, I would learn those Braille symbols! That is, if you use Braille > regularly. Also, your notetaker will most likely use computer braille, so > you will need to learn the Spanish braille symbols for numbers, which are > basically the literary numbers with a dot-6 added to them. So the number 1 > is the CH symbol, 2 is the AR symbol, 3 is the SH symbol etc, and there's no > number sign, and the period is dot-3. If you don't use Braille, and will be > using Jaws or a screen reader for everything, then I can't really help you, > but I'm sure someone else in the NFB probably could. I have heard that the > Mac with VoiceOver is better for handling languages than Jaws, but I don't > know how much Mac experience you have. Hope this helps. > >> On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:19 AM, Jason Polansky >> wrote: >> >> Hi Sophie, I think we met a few times while I was in training at the >> Louisiana Center. My college uses Supersite through Vista Higher Learning >> as well, and I used it for three semesters of Spanish. It is pretty >> accessible with Jaws, and buttons are well-labeled. I will say, it's very >> particular about how you answer. For example, it always wants you to type >> the subject before the verb, even in situations in which the subject is >> not needed. The only major issue that I had was trying to do Spanish with >> an English Jaws voice. I think there's a way to get Jaws to speak Spanish, >> but I didn't have much success figuring it out. It's also a typical web >> page, so there is still English on the site when it comes to the names of >> the links, headings, and buttons as such. Just make sure that you >> communicate with the professor, ask questions, and ask her or one of your >> peers to describe anything visual, and you should be fine. Good luck. >> >>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:40 PM, Sophie Trist via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I hope all of you are well, successfully completing finals and >>> gearing up for the holidays! I will be taking my first Spanish class next >>> semester, and I have a couple of questions. >>> First, my professor has told me that she uses a software called >>> Supersite Plus as a companion to the textbook, which comes from Vista >>> Higher Learning. Has anyone ever used Supersite Plus, and is it >>> accessible with a screen reader? If so, does it work better with one >>> screen reader than others? Any info on Supersite Plus would be extremely >>> helpful, as I just heard of it a few hours ago. >>> The professor also told me that she will use a lot of gestures, >>> videos, and other visuals in class to avoid using English. I have never >>> taken any college-level language courses before, so if anyone has advice >>> for how to deal with this, please send it my way. The professor has a >>> very good attitude, so I feel confident this will work out, I'm just >>> looking for some tips. >>> >>> All Best, >>> Sophie Trist >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jpolansky.nfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com > From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Thu Dec 14 00:25:56 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:25:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] access to ebsco ebooks help Message-ID: <4C74FD63CBC944428CE8BF95324918F8@OwnerPC> Hi all, Please give me some help about access to ebsco ebooks if they are accessible to jaws. I am trying to research and among the resources are three ebooks run through the ebsco group. They are pdfs and you can open them online to view in the web browser. The problem is I can open it and read the contents but I cannot open up the chapters. There is a button that jaws says “closed collapsed” and I try to open it by pressing enter and space. Then jaws jumps the cursor to the edit field that goes to a page search or jumps to somewhere else on the page. Its difficult to describe. But, I cannot figure out how to navigate and read it is the gist of the issue. Any help or suggestions will be helpful. I was hoping I could just activate the links by pressing enter as I do with other websites but this is not the case. I have navigated books in html before but not an online pdf book. I’m so frustrated. I use my reader for print sources and we have little time to mess with technology; she does not read ebooks; does not own a kindle or other tablet, so navigating an ebook would be new to her using the mouse; so that’s one reason I stayed away from using ebooks with her. Since she owns no tablet or good laptop, we would have to use the school’s laptops anyway to read them and I really don’t want to do that because using tech adds another layer of learning when she is also trying to skim and look for info for me. I have tried a number of print sources already which proved unuseful so I thought maybe these ebooks might be what I need. I really hope I can find a way to access them. Thanks, Ashley From mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 02:28:50 2017 From: mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:28:50 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Message-ID: Hi all, I hope this time of late night Starbucks runs, final exams, and overall mayhem isn't too excruciating. Luckily it will soon be over, and we can spend time relaxing and recuperating over the holidays. Halfway through my senior year of high school, I'm up to my ears in transcripts, college applications and scholarships. I know that choosing the right college is unique to everyone, and many different factors go into that final decision for the next four years. I also know that as a blind student, it takes a little extra consideration and research to find a place that can meet all of our needs. I wanted to get your opinions and experiences with choosing your colleges. What did you take into consideration when applying, and then picking your school of choice? Did you encounter any preliminary pitfalls with disability offices? Should I be looking out for any specific land mines? Thanks, and have a great wrap-up to your fall semester. From veronica.gaspa at student.shu.edu Thu Dec 14 03:08:29 2017 From: veronica.gaspa at student.shu.edu (Veronica R Gaspa) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 03:08:29 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Mausam, When I was looking for colleges I first took location into account. I had been living in the country and small towns all my life, and I knew I wanted a more urban environment. I also knew I wanted a smaller size campus, so I was looking at colleges with a population of 5,000/10,000 students. I then heard about my school, Seton Hall University in north Jersey. I was told they had a great disability office, so I did some research and decided to apply. Seton Hall has a population of about 6,000 undergrad and is just outside of New York City. I hope this story was helpful, and please feel free to reach out to me if you have any other questions. Good luck, I know you'll make the right choice! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mausam Mehta via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 PM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: Mausam Mehta Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Hi all, I hope this time of late night Starbucks runs, final exams, and overall mayhem isn't too excruciating. Luckily it will soon be over, and we can spend time relaxing and recuperating over the holidays. Halfway through my senior year of high school, I'm up to my ears in transcripts, college applications and scholarships. I know that choosing the right college is unique to everyone, and many different factors go into that final decision for the next four years. I also know that as a blind student, it takes a little extra consideration and research to find a place that can meet all of our needs. I wanted to get your opinions and experiences with choosing your colleges. What did you take into consideration when applying, and then picking your school of choice? Did you encounter any preliminary pitfalls with disability offices? Should I be looking out for any specific land mines? Thanks, and have a great wrap-up to your fall semester. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student.shu.edu From codybeardslee at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 03:27:58 2017 From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:27:58 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Event Planning Call Message-ID: <4CFD7E5F-2091-4560-9C78-38BC3CE44BDB@gmail.com> Hi event planners, Come check out the NABS Event Planning Committee Call tomorrow night (Thursday) at 9 eastern! Here is the conference line info Call 712-770-5197 Code: 265669 Thanks Cody Beardslee Treasurer, National Association of Blind Students President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Federation of the Blind of Minnesota Phone: 763-291-3711 Work Email: cbeardslee at blindinc.org LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! From misokwak12 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 05:57:41 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:57:41 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mausam, what an exciting time! In my initial selection of where to apply, I honestly didn't consider the quality of disability services. I was more concerned about whether the schools I was applying to had programs of study I was interested in, extracurricular activities I would enjoy, etc. After I had the list of colleges I was accepted to, I started seriously learning more about each school's disability service. Talk to the staff of disability service office at each school and ask all the questions you have for them. Also, if you are able, try connecting with blind students who currently go to the school or blind recent graduates to get students' perspectives. Of course trying to get a good understanding of the campus atmosphere, location, housing etc should be put into consideration as well. Best wishes, Miso Kwak On 12/13/17, Veronica R Gaspa via NABS-L wrote: > Hello Mausam, > When I was looking for colleges I first took location into account. I had > been living in the country and small towns all my life, and I knew I wanted > a more urban environment. I also knew I wanted a smaller size campus, so I > was looking at colleges with a population of 5,000/10,000 students. I then > heard about my school, Seton Hall University in north Jersey. I was told > they had a great disability office, so I did some research and decided to > apply. Seton Hall has a population of about 6,000 undergrad and is just > outside of New York City. I hope this story was helpful, and please feel > free to reach out to me if you have any other questions. Good luck, I know > you'll make the right choice! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mausam Mehta > via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 PM > To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org > Cc: Mausam Mehta > Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision > > Hi all, > > I hope this time of late night Starbucks runs, final exams, and overall > mayhem isn't too excruciating. Luckily it will soon be over, and we can > spend time relaxing and recuperating over the holidays. > Halfway through my senior year of high school, I'm up to my ears in > transcripts, college applications and scholarships. I know that choosing the > right college is unique to everyone, and many different factors go into that > final decision for the next four years. I also know that as a blind student, > it takes a little extra consideration and research to find a place that can > meet all of our needs. I wanted to get your opinions and experiences with > choosing your colleges. What did you take into consideration when applying, > and then picking your school of choice? Did you encounter any preliminary > pitfalls with disability offices? Should I be looking out for any specific > land mines? > Thanks, and have a great wrap-up to your fall semester. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student.shu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From sweetpeareader at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 06:33:48 2017 From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 00:33:48 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Message-ID: <5a321b5c.545c810a.87059.6b09@mx.google.com> Hi Mausam, Ah, I remember that time two years ago. When I was a senior in high school, I came up with a list of criteria, things I wanted in a college: relatively close to home, liberal arts, small size, etc. Then, I picked out six schools and toured them to get a feel for the atmosphere and such. During those tours, I also met with someone from the school's Disability Services office. Then, I filled out my applications and waited for the acceptance letters to roll in. This is an exciting time, and I wish you the best of luck. Akl Best, Sophie On Dec 13, 2017 11:57 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Mausam, what an exciting time! > In my initial selection of where to apply, I honestly didn't consider > the quality of disability services. I was more concerned about whether > the schools I was applying to had programs of study I was interested > in, extracurricular activities I would enjoy, etc. > After I had the list of colleges I was accepted to, I started > seriously learning more about each school's disability service. Talk > to the staff of disability service office at each school and ask all > the questions you have for them. Also, if you are able, try connecting > with blind students who currently go to the school or blind recent > graduates to get students' perspectives. > Of course trying to get a good understanding of the campus atmosphere, > location, housing etc should be put into consideration as well. > > Best wishes, > Miso Kwak > > On 12/13/17, Veronica R Gaspa via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Mausam, > > When I was looking for colleges I first took location into account. I had > > been living in the country and small towns all my life, and I knew I wanted > > a more urban environment. I also knew I wanted a smaller size campus, so I > > was looking at colleges with a population of 5,000/10,000 students. I then > > heard about my school, Seton Hall University in north Jersey. I was told > > they had a great disability office, so I did some research and decided to > > apply. Seton Hall has a population of about 6,000 undergrad and is just > > outside of New York City. I hope this story was helpful, and please feel > > free to reach out to me if you have any other questions. Good luck, I know > > you'll make the right choice! > > Best, > > Vee Gaspa > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mausam Mehta > > via NABS-L > > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 PM > > To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > Cc: Mausam Mehta > > Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision > > > > Hi all, > > > > I hope this time of late night Starbucks runs, final exams, and overall > > mayhem isn't too excruciating. Luckily it will soon be over, and we can > > spend time relaxing and recuperating over the holidays. > > Halfway through my senior year of high school, I'm up to my ears in > > transcripts, college applications and scholarships. I know that choosing the > > right college is unique to everyone, and many different factors go into that > > final decision for the next four years. I also know that as a blind student, > > it takes a little extra consideration and research to find a place that can > > meet all of our needs. I wanted to get your opinions and experiences with > > choosing your colleges. What did you take into consideration when applying, > > and then picking your school of choice? Did you encounter any preliminary > > pitfalls with disability offices? Should I be looking out for any specific > > land mines? > > Thanks, and have a great wrap-up to your fall semester. > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student.shu.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > > > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareader%40gmail.com From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 13:06:20 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:06:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004301d374dc$5a09b890$0e1d29b0$@gmail.com> Good-morning Mausamm and all my fellow NABSters, When I was college hunting I went to the schools website to check out their programs. When I liked their program, I first called the school and asked to speak to DSS. I explained that I am requiring disability support and went on to ask them what services they provide. If I liked both items I mentioned, then I made a college visit. I hope this was helpful to all. Best, Nesma -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica R Gaspa via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:08 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Veronica R Gaspa Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Hello Mausam, When I was looking for colleges I first took location into account. I had been living in the country and small towns all my life, and I knew I wanted a more urban environment. I also knew I wanted a smaller size campus, so I was looking at colleges with a population of 5,000/10,000 students. I then heard about my school, Seton Hall University in north Jersey. I was told they had a great disability office, so I did some research and decided to apply. Seton Hall has a population of about 6,000 undergrad and is just outside of New York City. I hope this story was helpful, and please feel free to reach out to me if you have any other questions. Good luck, I know you'll make the right choice! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mausam Mehta via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 PM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: Mausam Mehta Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Hi all, I hope this time of late night Starbucks runs, final exams, and overall mayhem isn't too excruciating. Luckily it will soon be over, and we can spend time relaxing and recuperating over the holidays. Halfway through my senior year of high school, I'm up to my ears in transcripts, college applications and scholarships. I know that choosing the right college is unique to everyone, and many different factors go into that final decision for the next four years. I also know that as a blind student, it takes a little extra consideration and research to find a place that can meet all of our needs. I wanted to get your opinions and experiences with choosing your colleges. What did you take into consideration when applying, and then picking your school of choice? Did you encounter any preliminary pitfalls with disability offices? Should I be looking out for any specific land mines? Thanks, and have a great wrap-up to your fall semester. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student .shu.edu _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 15:50:48 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 10:50:48 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Message-ID: <5a329ddd.9623620a.30d3a.71bc@mx.google.com> When I was choosing where I wanted to go to college, I decided to attend community college for the first two years then transfer to a four-year university. I took into consideration the closeness to home, class size, academic test scores, and kindness of staff at Disability Support Services. Because my grandfather was the one who picked me up from classes most of the time, I wanted to make sure that the campus was not too far from his house. From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 17:31:06 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:31:06 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision In-Reply-To: <004301d374dc$5a09b890$0e1d29b0$@gmail.com> References: <004301d374dc$5a09b890$0e1d29b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0ab001d37501$709f1fd0$51dd5f70$@gmail.com> My message las tnight didn't go through, so here goes again. Decide on environment, whether you want to be in an urban setting, a small town, or a setting in the country out in th emiddle of nowhere. Then decide on how big a college you'd like; do you want a huge university, or a small one. Those two factors will probably do the most to dictate your classroom experience, and your activities outside the classroom. Next, make sure the post-secondary institution selected has the major you are looking for. Then, find out if theoffice of student services can meet your needs. You should be able to articulate most of your accommodations. I say most, because they may change depending upon the classes you are in. Don't forget to check into the activities, on campus and off campus also; you'll be spending a good bit of time away from the classroom and you studies. Feel free to arrange this order of things to consider in anyway you like. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nesma aly via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:06 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: nesma aly Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Good-morning Mausamm and all my fellow NABSters, When I was college hunting I went to the schools website to check out their programs. When I liked their program, I first called the school and asked to speak to DSS. I explained that I am requiring disability support and went on to ask them what services they provide. If I liked both items I mentioned, then I made a college visit. I hope this was helpful to all. Best, Nesma -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica R Gaspa via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:08 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Veronica R Gaspa Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Hello Mausam, When I was looking for colleges I first took location into account. I had been living in the country and small towns all my life, and I knew I wanted a more urban environment. I also knew I wanted a smaller size campus, so I was looking at colleges with a population of 5,000/10,000 students. I then heard about my school, Seton Hall University in north Jersey. I was told they had a great disability office, so I did some research and decided to apply. Seton Hall has a population of about 6,000 undergrad and is just outside of New York City. I hope this story was helpful, and please feel free to reach out to me if you have any other questions. Good luck, I know you'll make the right choice! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mausam Mehta via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 PM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: Mausam Mehta Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision Hi all, I hope this time of late night Starbucks runs, final exams, and overall mayhem isn't too excruciating. Luckily it will soon be over, and we can spend time relaxing and recuperating over the holidays. Halfway through my senior year of high school, I'm up to my ears in transcripts, college applications and scholarships. I know that choosing the right college is unique to everyone, and many different factors go into that final decision for the next four years. I also know that as a blind student, it takes a little extra consideration and research to find a place that can meet all of our needs. I wanted to get your opinions and experiences with choosing your colleges. What did you take into consideration when applying, and then picking your school of choice? Did you encounter any preliminary pitfalls with disability offices? Should I be looking out for any specific land mines? Thanks, and have a great wrap-up to your fall semester. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student .shu.edu _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 18:15:05 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:15:05 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Centers Message-ID: I am a senior in high school. I am thinking of either going to college, or a training center first. I would love to know if any training center is better than another, and if you liked your experience at the one you attended. I am looking at the 3 nfb ones, plus Caroll Center and BISM. Do you I should go before or after College? Thank you so much. From dsykora29 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 18:50:27 2017 From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:50:27 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision In-Reply-To: <0ab001d37501$709f1fd0$51dd5f70$@gmail.com> References: <004301d374dc$5a09b890$0e1d29b0$@gmail.com> <0ab001d37501$709f1fd0$51dd5f70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Personally, I don't think the college decision is really much different for blind students. Like others, the main factors I looked at were the size, majors offered, and distance from home. I wanted a smaller university because I prefer smaller classes, to stay within about three hours away from home, and I chose Environmental Science as my major. Disability services really didn't factor into my decision at all. I believe I talked to the DSS office at three of the five schools I applied to. I personally prefer to discuss accomodations directly with the professor as much as possible though, so I only deal with the DSS office on occasion. The DSS office at my university isn't very good at all when it comes to anything other than learning disabilities, but most professors do a good job of following my accomodations. Good luck, Danielle On 12/14/17, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > My message las tnight didn't go through, so here goes again. > Decide on environment, whether you want to be in an urban setting, a small > town, or a setting in the country out in th emiddle of nowhere. Then > decide > on how big a college you'd like; do you want a huge university, or a small > one. Those two factors will probably do the most to dictate your classroom > experience, and your activities outside the classroom. Next, make sure the > post-secondary institution selected has the major you are looking for. > Then, find out if theoffice of student services can meet your needs. You > should be able to articulate most of your accommodations. I say most, > because they may change depending upon the classes you are in. Don't > forget > to check into the activities, on campus and off campus also; you'll be > spending a good bit of time away from the classroom and you studies. Feel > free to arrange this order of things to consider in anyway you like. > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nesma aly via > NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:06 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: nesma aly > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Making the college decision > > Good-morning Mausamm and all my fellow NABSters, When I was college hunting > I went to the schools website to check out their programs. When I liked > their program, I first called the school and asked to speak to DSS. I > explained that I am requiring disability support and went on to ask them > what services they provide. If I liked both items I mentioned, then I made > a > college visit. > I hope this was helpful to all. > Best, > Nesma > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica R > Gaspa via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:08 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Veronica R Gaspa > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Making the college decision > > Hello Mausam, > When I was looking for colleges I first took location into account. I had > been living in the country and small towns all my life, and I knew I wanted > a more urban environment. I also knew I wanted a smaller size campus, so I > was looking at colleges with a population of 5,000/10,000 students. I then > heard about my school, Seton Hall University in north Jersey. I was told > they had a great disability office, so I did some research and decided to > apply. Seton Hall has a population of about 6,000 undergrad and is just > outside of New York City. I hope this story was helpful, and please feel > free to reach out to me if you have any other questions. Good luck, I know > you'll make the right choice! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mausam Mehta > via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:29 PM > To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org > Cc: Mausam Mehta > Subject: [nabs-l] Making the college decision > > Hi all, > > I hope this time of late night Starbucks runs, final exams, and overall > mayhem isn't too excruciating. Luckily it will soon be over, and we can > spend time relaxing and recuperating over the holidays. > Halfway through my senior year of high school, I'm up to my ears in > transcripts, college applications and scholarships. I know that choosing > the > right college is unique to everyone, and many different factors go into > that > final decision for the next four years. I also know that as a blind > student, > it takes a little extra consideration and research to find a place that can > meet all of our needs. I wanted to get your opinions and experiences with > choosing your colleges. What did you take into consideration when applying, > and then picking your school of choice? Did you encounter any preliminary > pitfalls with disability offices? Should I be looking out for any specific > land mines? > Thanks, and have a great wrap-up to your fall semester. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student > .shu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsykora29%40gmail.com > From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 19:24:26 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:24:26 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Centers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AA97931-E456-4B9D-A843-D0E4FA1D29D8@yahoo.com> I'm a junior in high school. I plan to go to one of the NB's training centers before I go to college. “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > On Dec 14, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > > I am a senior in high school. I am thinking of either going to > college, or a training center first. I would love to know if any > training center is better than another, and if you liked your > experience at the one you attended. I am looking at the 3 nfb ones, > plus Caroll Center and BISM. Do you I should go before or after > College? > Thank you so much. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com From mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 19:43:56 2017 From: mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 14:43:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Centers In-Reply-To: <1AA97931-E456-4B9D-A843-D0E4FA1D29D8@yahoo.com> References: <1AA97931-E456-4B9D-A843-D0E4FA1D29D8@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8603C273-28FB-455C-93AD-620D65C3ACE1@gmail.com> Hey Allie, I had a good experience in Colorado over the summer; maybe consider it. As for when you choose to get your training, it's different for everyone. It depends on whether you are confident in your current skill levels and belief you're set for college, or if you need a little more time. You never stop learning though, so whenever you go, you'll get a lot out of it. > On Dec 14, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm a junior in high school. I plan to go to one of the NB's training centers before I go to college. > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > >> On Dec 14, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I am a senior in high school. I am thinking of either going to >> college, or a training center first. I would love to know if any >> training center is better than another, and if you liked your >> experience at the one you attended. I am looking at the 3 nfb ones, >> plus Caroll Center and BISM. Do you I should go before or after >> College? >> Thank you so much. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausam.mehta00%40gmail.com From chris.omeally at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 20:00:03 2017 From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'meally) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 15:00:03 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Centers In-Reply-To: <8603C273-28FB-455C-93AD-620D65C3ACE1@gmail.com> References: <1AA97931-E456-4B9D-A843-D0E4FA1D29D8@yahoo.com> <8603C273-28FB-455C-93AD-620D65C3ACE1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Every training center offers something different. I went to LCB, but that is because I didn't need help with my city travel, and you will get a lot of practice with it. at CCB. I don't know about blind inc all that much, but I would suggest you do some research and see what each center offers you vs what you are looking to gain from the training. Hope this helps and feel free to contact me off list with any questions you may have. email address and apple ID is chris.omeally at gmail.com On 12/14/17, Mausam Mehta via NABS-L wrote: > Hey Allie, > I had a good experience in Colorado over the summer; maybe consider it. > As for when you choose to get your training, it's different for everyone. It > depends on whether you are confident in your current skill levels and belief > you're set for college, or if you need a little more time. You never stop > learning though, so whenever you go, you'll get a lot out of it. > >> On Dec 14, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> I'm a junior in high school. I plan to go to one of the NB's training >> centers before I go to college. >> >> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >> >>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> I am a senior in high school. I am thinking of either going to >>> college, or a training center first. I would love to know if any >>> training center is better than another, and if you liked your >>> experience at the one you attended. I am looking at the 3 nfb ones, >>> plus Caroll Center and BISM. Do you I should go before or after >>> College? >>> Thank you so much. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausam.mehta00%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com > -- Very Respectfully, Christopher O’Meally. NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. Chris.omeally at gmail.com (804)658-6668 From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 23:02:53 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:02:53 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a201d3752f$ac7b49b0$0571dd10$@gmail.com> Dear Brianna, What prompted you to pursue an English degree?? Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:40 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Brianna Rigsbee Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me Hello all, My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. Best, Bri Brianna Rigsbee bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (203) 751-0199 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com From zdreicer at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 15:58:36 2017 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:58:36 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Centers In-Reply-To: <1AA97931-E456-4B9D-A843-D0E4FA1D29D8@yahoo.com> References: <1AA97931-E456-4B9D-A843-D0E4FA1D29D8@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DE2E5F6-85A8-4772-9B05-008070AC63AF@gmail.com> I went to Colorado Center for the blind for the independence training program between high school and college. I would definitely get to an Nfb training center when possible, as for when, that’s totally up to you. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Dec 14, 2017, at 13:24, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > I'm a junior in high school. I plan to go to one of the NB's training centers before I go to college. > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > >> On Dec 14, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I am a senior in high school. I am thinking of either going to >> college, or a training center first. I would love to know if any >> training center is better than another, and if you liked your >> experience at the one you attended. I am looking at the 3 nfb ones, >> plus Caroll Center and BISM. Do you I should go before or after >> College? >> Thank you so much. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From msheeder87 at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 20:23:46 2017 From: msheeder87 at gmail.com (Melissa Sheeder) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:23:46 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Challenge! References: <42FAF0B9-E8E0-485B-810C-0070C5A0A5AD@riccobono.us> Message-ID: I apologize for any duplicate emails. Please remember you do not have to reside in Maryland to participate. Hope to see you there. Melissa Sheeder >> Aloha Braille! >> >> The Family Registration Packet for the Maryland Regional Braille Challenge is officially available! >> >> The 2018 Maryland Regional Braille Challenge will be held at Maryland School for the Blind on February 3, 2018. The Braille Challenge is a reading and writing competition for students in grades 1-12. Braille Challenge contest categories include reading comprehension, writing speed and accuracy, proofreading, spelling, and reading tactile charts and graphs. The top 50 competitors in the country will qualify to attend the National Braille Challenge in California which will be held during the month of June. We also have a "rookie" challenge for those students in Pre-K and Kindergarten and a Mini-BELL program for those students who are just learning Braille and are in grades 1 thru 5. Please see the attached information to learn more! Be sure to complete both the registration form and permission form. At this time, the parent permission form is not accessible. An accessible version will be available shortly. If you need assistance to complete the current parent permission form please contact Kerry Michael at 410-444-5000 Ext. 1218 >> >> Highlights of the 2018 Braille Challenge Include: >> · Recognition of all participants and prizes for all participants competing in the Maryland Regional Braille Challenge >> · Parent workshops on the following topics: Independent and Adaptive Living Skills, JAWS (limited to first 10 >> registrants) and Keynote Speaker Kristen Smedley, author of the soon to be released book Thriving Blind >> · Vendor Fair >> · Tropical theme >> · Mini-BELL program for beginning Braille readers for grades 1-5 (limited to 10 students) >> · Door prizes >> · Games, face painting, balloon artistry and more! >> >> The first 10 students who return their permission form and registration form will be entered to win a mystery prize! >> >> >> >> Jacqueline Otwell >> Educational Consultant >> 410.444.5000 x1488(o) 410.319.5708 (f) >> www.marylandschoolfortheblind.org >> https://msb-outreach.com/blog/ >> @MSB_Outreach and @mdbrlchallenge on Twitter >> www.marylandschoolfortheblind.org >> >> Statement of Confidentiality >> >> The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, for the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail or phone and delete this message and its attachments, if any. >> Hello everyone, > This is a fantastic and fun event for braille readers of all skill levels! I hope you will consider signing your children up for the Braille challenge! > Melissa > _______________________________________________ > MDPOBC mailing list > MDPOBC at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mdpobc_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for MDPOBC: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/mdpobc_nfbnet.org/msheeder87%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Fri Dec 15 20:58:22 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:58:22 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Challenge! In-Reply-To: References: <42FAF0B9-E8E0-485B-810C-0070C5A0A5AD@riccobono.us> Message-ID: <25A2908A-B435-48FB-8642-613795F018AA@gmail.com> I have been in the braille challenge here in Florida and I love it Sent from my iPad > On Dec 15, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Melissa Sheeder via NABS-L wrote: > > I apologize for any duplicate emails. Please remember you do not have to reside in Maryland to participate. Hope to see you there. > Melissa Sheeder > > >>> Aloha Braille! >>> >>> The Family Registration Packet for the Maryland Regional Braille Challenge is officially available! >>> >>> The 2018 Maryland Regional Braille Challenge will be held at Maryland School for the Blind on February 3, 2018. The Braille Challenge is a reading and writing competition for students in grades 1-12. Braille Challenge contest categories include reading comprehension, writing speed and accuracy, proofreading, spelling, and reading tactile charts and graphs. The top 50 competitors in the country will qualify to attend the National Braille Challenge in California which will be held during the month of June. We also have a "rookie" challenge for those students in Pre-K and Kindergarten and a Mini-BELL program for those students who are just learning Braille and are in grades 1 thru 5. Please see the attached information to learn more! Be sure to complete both the registration form and permission form. At this time, the parent permission form is not accessible. An accessible version will be available shortly. If you need assistance to complete the current parent permission form please contact Kerry Michael at 410-444-5000 Ext. 1218 >>> >>> Highlights of the 2018 Braille Challenge Include: >>> · Recognition of all participants and prizes for all participants competing in the Maryland Regional Braille Challenge >>> · Parent workshops on the following topics: Independent and Adaptive Living Skills, JAWS (limited to first 10 >>> registrants) and Keynote Speaker Kristen Smedley, author of the soon to be released book Thriving Blind >>> · Vendor Fair >>> · Tropical theme >>> · Mini-BELL program for beginning Braille readers for grades 1-5 (limited to 10 students) >>> · Door prizes >>> · Games, face painting, balloon artistry and more! >>> >>> The first 10 students who return their permission form and registration form will be entered to win a mystery prize! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jacqueline Otwell >>> Educational Consultant >>> 410.444.5000 x1488(o) 410.319.5708 (f) >>> www.marylandschoolfortheblind.org >>> https://msb-outreach.com/blog/ >>> @MSB_Outreach and @mdbrlchallenge on Twitter >>> www.marylandschoolfortheblind.org > > > > > > > > >>> >>> Statement of Confidentiality >>> >>> The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, for the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail or phone and delete this message and its attachments, if any. > > >>> Hello everyone, >> This is a fantastic and fun event for braille readers of all skill levels! I hope you will consider signing your children up for the Braille challenge! >> Melissa > > >> _______________________________________________ >> MDPOBC mailing list >> MDPOBC at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mdpobc_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for MDPOBC: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/mdpobc_nfbnet.org/msheeder87%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at icloud.com Sat Dec 16 19:32:02 2017 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:32:02 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] T-Mobile problem and conference calls Message-ID: <3176A658-F2F5-4AC5-B747-94F64F7D7D2F@icloud.com> Is anybody else having a problem where T-Mobile will not let them call in for NABS conference calls if I was to do this it would charge me a cent per minute? Emma Sent from my iPhone From ccn at chrisnestrud.com Sat Dec 16 19:38:57 2017 From: ccn at chrisnestrud.com (Chris Nestrud) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 13:38:57 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] T-Mobile problem and conference calls In-Reply-To: <3176A658-F2F5-4AC5-B747-94F64F7D7D2F@icloud.com> References: <3176A658-F2F5-4AC5-B747-94F64F7D7D2F@icloud.com> Message-ID: <20171216193857.577sk5omozxb3fb7@chrisnestrud.com> Probably similar to the explanation in this article: https://aaronparecki.com/2012/03/25/8/how-does-freeconferencecall-make-money Chris On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 02:32:02PM -0500, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > Is anybody else having a problem where T-Mobile will not let them call in for NABS conference calls if I was to do this it would charge me a cent per minute? > Emma > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ccn%40chrisnestrud.com From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com Sat Dec 16 21:00:44 2017 From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:00:44 -1000 Subject: [nabs-l] T-Mobile problem and conference calls In-Reply-To: <3176A658-F2F5-4AC5-B747-94F64F7D7D2F@icloud.com> References: <3176A658-F2F5-4AC5-B747-94F64F7D7D2F@icloud.com> Message-ID: Aloha Emma, While this was an issue many months ago, we remedied the problem by switching teleconferences, Our new number is 712 Dash 770–5197, Code 265669. We hope to hear from you on future calls, completely free from unnecessary charges. Shannon KS. Cantan Board Member | National Association of Blind Students (808) 785-5186 ShannonCantan.NFB at gmail.com > On Dec 16, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > > Is anybody else having a problem where T-Mobile will not let them call in for NABS conference calls if I was to do this it would charge me a cent per minute? > Emma > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb%40gmail.com From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Sat Dec 16 22:21:49 2017 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:21:49 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] T-Mobile problem and conference calls In-Reply-To: <20171216193857.577sk5omozxb3fb7@chrisnestrud.com> References: <3176A658-F2F5-4AC5-B747-94F64F7D7D2F@icloud.com> <20171216193857.577sk5omozxb3fb7@chrisnestrud.com> Message-ID: I haven't experienced that issue with T-Mobile before. Maybe it depends if you're on one of their older plans? By older, I mean those from years ago that charged you for minutes that you used. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Chris Nestrud via NABS-L wrote: > > Probably similar to the explanation in this article: > > https://aaronparecki.com/2012/03/25/8/how-does-freeconferencecall-make-money > > Chris > >> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 02:32:02PM -0500, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Is anybody else having a problem where T-Mobile will not let them call in for NABS conference calls if I was to do this it would charge me a cent per minute? >> Emma >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ccn%40chrisnestrud.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Sat Dec 16 23:17:47 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:17:47 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility Article Message-ID: This is a pretty good article about accessibility efforts at Wichita State -- the NFB was of course involved... Dave https://www.edsurge.com/news/2017-12-08-how-a-blind-student-who-felt-locked-out-of-stem-classes-challenged-and-changed-her-university From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com Sun Dec 17 21:52:42 2017 From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 16:52:42 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] membership call tonight Message-ID: <7822BA65-9FF8-4CA1-878E-EE5CDDEDFCDB@gmail.com> Dear Students, I hope this email finds all of you well. I know all of you are very busy as you power through the end of your classes. Plus the holidays are approaching so we are in the middle of a very exciting time. I am here to invite all of you to our monthly membership call. It is on December 17 at eight o'clock eastern standard time. This membership call will have two sections. We will have a speaker giving a presentation on the topic of spending time with family and friends during holidays as a blind person. We will also have a presentation on what we can do to better ourselves for the new year. There is no time like the present to start making some changes to enhance and better ourselves. Remember blindness is not the characteristic that defines us. I look forward to having all of you join us! The calling information is as follows: Call: 712-770-5197 Access code: 265669 All the best, Tarik Williams From matthewhgip at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 16:55:13 2017 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:55:13 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] CABS Conference Call Message-ID: <968F6853-B3E4-427D-9E05-880BC10C1152@gmail.com> Dear Students, As you all are wrapping up the end of your semester and relieved your stress from finals, I’d like to invite you all to our conference call tonight hosted by the California Association of Blind Students. Come check out what our student division has planned and feel free to always bring your ideas and enthusiasm. The call will take place tonight at 8:00 pm PST. We hope you can join us! Here’s how you can call in: Call-in Number: (515) 739-1031 Access Code: 958093 Best regards, Matthew Gip President, California Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California Phone: (559) 375-2068 Live The Life You Want! From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 18:49:41 2017 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:49:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility Article In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a380dc6.4778240a.77ea1.be9f@mx.google.com> I was really excited about this article and then I found a line that I take huge exception to: "If I went around to every single wheelchair ramp on campus and broke part of it, there would be an absolute riot," Maybe I just notice it more, but it seems that the blind community has this thing about comparing ourselves against other groups to indicate that we're hard done by and everyone else has it easier. Portraying a blind character by a sighted actor was implied to be equivalent to blackface in this article: https://rudermanfoundation.org/ruderman-family-foundation-condemns-blind-fil m-for-casting-alec-baldwin-in-disability-role/ Can we agree as a community to stop doing this? We make ourselves look both ignorant about other people's history and struggles, and insensitive to their needs. We also know that their struggles are not finished either. Why do we insist on appearing like mean-spirited ignoramuses? I've started to see things like "it's not all about screen readers..." when dealing with web accessibility, and that's not fair either. We all know how far the web has to go to be screen reader accessible. If we understand how irritating and damaging assertions like that are, can we please stop making them about others? Also, there are many people in the blind community who are part of these other groups that the blind community seems to think have won all their battles. I am certain they would disagree with those assertions and be rather let down by a community with whom they identify. I appreciate you reading my rant. In short, be mindful of what you say and how you say it when advocating for blindness issues, and don't make confrontations between groups where there can be none for mutual advancement. Thank you, Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via NABS-L Sent: December 16, 2017 6:18 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: David Andrews Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility Article This is a pretty good article about accessibility efforts at Wichita State -- the NFB was of course involved... Dave https://www.edsur ge.com/news/2017-12-08-how-a-blind-student-who-felt-locked-out-of-stem-class es-challenged-and-changed-her-university _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Mon Dec 18 18:56:46 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:56:46 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility Article In-Reply-To: <5a380dc6.4778240a.77ea1.be9f@mx.google.com> References: <5a380dc6.4778240a.77ea1.be9f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8AE2AA06-7515-4120-97CC-0C3206BB0A36@gmail.com> I agree. As a blind person I have even been guilty of saying things about other communities that I don't mean we all make mistakes Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Sarah Jevnikar via NABS-L wrote: > > I was really excited about this article and then I found a line that I take > huge exception to: > "If I went around to every single wheelchair ramp on campus and broke part > of it, there would be an absolute riot," > > Maybe I just notice it more, but it seems that the blind community has this > thing about comparing ourselves against other groups to indicate that we're > hard done by and everyone else has it easier. Portraying a blind character > by a sighted actor was implied to be equivalent to blackface in this > article: > https://rudermanfoundation.org/ruderman-family-foundation-condemns-blind-fil > m-for-casting-alec-baldwin-in-disability-role/ > Can we agree as a community to stop doing this? We make ourselves look both > ignorant about other people's history and struggles, and insensitive to > their needs. We also know that their struggles are not finished either. Why > do we insist on appearing like mean-spirited ignoramuses? > > I've started to see things like "it's not all about screen readers..." when > dealing with web accessibility, and that's not fair either. We all know how > far the web has to go to be screen reader accessible. If we understand how > irritating and damaging assertions like that are, can we please stop making > them about others? > > Also, there are many people in the blind community who are part of these > other groups that the blind community seems to think have won all their > battles. I am certain they would disagree with those assertions and be > rather let down by a community with whom they identify. > > I appreciate you reading my rant. In short, be mindful of what you say and > how you say it when advocating for blindness issues, and don't make > confrontations between groups where there can be none for mutual > advancement. > > Thank you, > > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews > via NABS-L > Sent: December 16, 2017 6:18 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: David Andrews > Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility Article > > This is a pretty good article about accessibility efforts at Wichita State > -- the NFB was of course involved... > > Dave > > > > -out-of-stem-classes-challenged-and-changed-her-university>https://www.edsur > ge.com/news/2017-12-08-how-a-blind-student-who-felt-locked-out-of-stem-class > es-challenged-and-changed-her-university > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 12:26:32 2017 From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:26:32 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <00a201d3752f$ac7b49b0$0571dd10$@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> <00a201d3752f$ac7b49b0$0571dd10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello all, I would like to thank each and every one of you for making me feel welcome. Since I was having trouble with replying to some messages, I am going to try to respond to you all privately, if that is ok. I look forward to talking to you all. Best, Brianna Brianna Rigsbee bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com > On Dec 14, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Cory McMahon wrote: > > Dear Brianna, > > What prompted you to pursue an English degree?? > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:40 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Brianna Rigsbee > Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me > > Hello all, > > My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. > My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. > > If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. > > Best, > Bri > > Brianna Rigsbee > bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com > (203) 751-0199 > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com > From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 13:25:21 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 08:25:21 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> <00a201d3752f$ac7b49b0$0571dd10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1ABD2091-A26F-4545-9139-FE84E5B15A34@gmail.com> That is fine with me. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 19, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, > > I would like to thank each and every one of you for making me feel welcome. Since I was having trouble with replying to some messages, I am going to try to respond to you all privately, if that is ok. > > I look forward to talking to you all. > > Best, > Brianna > Brianna Rigsbee > bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com > > > >> On Dec 14, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Cory McMahon wrote: >> >> Dear Brianna, >> >> What prompted you to pursue an English degree?? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:40 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Brianna Rigsbee >> Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me >> >> Hello all, >> >> My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. >> My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. >> >> If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. >> >> Best, >> Bri >> >> Brianna Rigsbee >> bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com >> (203) 751-0199 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 13:30:55 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:30:55 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <1ABD2091-A26F-4545-9139-FE84E5B15A34@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> <00a201d3752f$ac7b49b0$0571dd10$@gmail.com> <1ABD2091-A26F-4545-9139-FE84E5B15A34@gmail.com> Message-ID: <056501d378cd$a61d4040$f257c0c0$@gmail.com> Sounds great. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:25 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: rbacchus228 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] introducing me That is fine with me. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 19, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, > > I would like to thank each and every one of you for making me feel welcome. Since I was having trouble with replying to some messages, I am going to try to respond to you all privately, if that is ok. > > I look forward to talking to you all. > > Best, > Brianna > Brianna Rigsbee > bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com > > > >> On Dec 14, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Cory McMahon wrote: >> >> Dear Brianna, >> >> What prompted you to pursue an English degree?? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Cory McMahon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:40 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Brianna Rigsbee >> Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me >> >> Hello all, >> >> My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born completely blind due to Microphthalmia. >> My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. >> >> If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of you. >> >> Best, >> Bri >> >> Brianna Rigsbee >> bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com >> (203) 751-0199 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com From jfranks at nfbtx.org Wed Dec 20 09:08:51 2017 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 03:08:51 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recovering accidently deleted files from a USB drive Message-ID: <703BF97C-EC34-425B-BC26-16A5E1545ADD@nfbtx.org> Hey all, I was attempting to move some Files from my flash drive to my PC. A message came up saying that there were two interrupted actions. As I try to escape out of that, I realize that all of the files that I was trying to move were lost. I tried using the control plus Z feature to undo the action but it did not work. I have tried downloading three data recovery programs and none of them are accessible. Does anyone have a solution to this, whether it is with or without a data recovery program? I am using Jaws 18 and windows 10. so I would appreciate if anyone knew of a accessible program to help me out. The Internet also said going to the USB drive in file explorer and clicking properties, then finding the recovery job, but when I do it there is no such tab. Your help is appreciated. Jonathan t from my iPhone From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com Wed Dec 20 14:31:18 2017 From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (simon bonenfant) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:31:18 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Recovering accidently deleted files from a USB drive Message-ID: <5a3a748d.4413c80a.bc318.b95a@mx.google.com> Hey There, If you look in your flash drive's properties there might be a folder called trashes. Sometimes, if deleted from a flash drive there is a trashes folder that you would have to delete the files out of. But, on windows 10 you have to go to properties of the drive and in one of the tabs there should be an item that says show hiden folders. If you click that, there should be a trashes folder in the main route of the drive which should contain the deleted files if not emptied already. Hope this helps. Sent from my braille note touch. On Dec 20, 2017 4:08 AM, Jonathan Franks via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey all, > I was attempting to move some  Files from my flash drive to my PC. A message came up saying  that there were two interrupted actions. As I try to escape out of that, I realize that all of the files that I was trying to move were lost. I tried using the control plus Z feature to undo  the action but it did not work. I have tried downloading three data recovery programs and none of them are  accessible. Does anyone have a solution to this, whether it is with or without a data recovery program? I am using Jaws  18 and windows 10. so I would appreciate if anyone knew of a accessible program to help me out. The Internet also said going to the USB drive in file explorer and clicking properties, then finding the recovery job, but when I do it there is no such tab. Your help is appreciated. > > Jonathan  t from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com From jfranks at nfbtx.org Wed Dec 20 15:13:24 2017 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:13:24 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recovering accidently deleted files from a USB drive In-Reply-To: <5a3a748d.4413c80a.bc318.b95a@mx.google.com> References: <5a3a748d.4413c80a.bc318.b95a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello, I attempted to open the Trash folder and it is requesting that I open the folder with some outside device. I attempted to also look intot he properties portion and there was no option to show hidden folders. On 12/20/17, simon bonenfant via NABS-L wrote: > Hey There, > If you look in your flash drive's properties there might be a folder called > trashes. Sometimes, if deleted from a flash drive there is a trashes folder > that you would have to delete the files out of. But, on windows 10 you have > to go to properties of the drive and in one of the tabs there should be an > item that says show hiden folders. If you click that, there should be a > trashes folder in the main route of the drive which should contain the > deleted files if not emptied already. > Hope this helps. > Sent from my braille note touch. > > On Dec 20, 2017 4:08 AM, Jonathan Franks via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hey all, >> I was attempting to move some Files from my flash drive to my PC. A >> message came up saying that there were two interrupted actions. As I try >> to escape out of that, I realize that all of the files that I was trying >> to move were lost. I tried using the control plus Z feature to undo the >> action but it did not work. I have tried downloading three data recovery >> programs and none of them are accessible. Does anyone have a solution to >> this, whether it is with or without a data recovery program? I am using >> Jaws 18 and windows 10. so I would appreciate if anyone knew of a >> accessible program to help me out. The Internet also said going to the USB >> drive in file explorer and clicking properties, then finding the recovery >> job, but when I do it there is no such tab. Your help is appreciated. >> >> Jonathan t from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jfranks%40nfbtx.org > -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From emitchell927 at icloud.com Thu Dec 21 14:31:20 2017 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:31:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson Message-ID: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> What is the accessibility of Pearson my lab and mastering I’m taking a biology class and lab next semester I need help What are accommodations you have used? Emma Sent from my iPhone From jamison.christopher3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 15:22:16 2017 From: jamison.christopher3 at gmail.com (jamison.christopher3 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:22:16 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Tagged PDF Message-ID: <001001d37a6f$7c419e30$74c4da90$@gmail.com> Hello everyone, Have anyone successfully gotten jaws to read a tagged PDF? Respectfully Jamison From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 15:27:02 2017 From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:27:02 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson In-Reply-To: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> References: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> Message-ID: <831B48B1-EE01-4822-8A74-70C6197C28C7@gmail.com> Good morning, Emma When I took my math courses, and needed to use MyMathLab, I would have a person hired by my school's disability office assist me with the problems that I found could not be completed while using JAWS. So maybe, if it'd be easiest for you, you can go talk to someone in your disability services department about what accomodations can be put into place to help you. I hope that helps. Have a great day. Best, Bri Brianna Rigsbee The one and only BREEZY > On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > What is the accessibility of Pearson my lab and mastering I’m taking a biology class and lab next semester I need help > What are accommodations you have used? > Emma > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gmail.com From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 19:38:05 2017 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:38:05 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson In-Reply-To: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> References: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> Message-ID: <9FE9CEAE-FF34-40AD-B4D8-19F8F29525E4@gmail.com> Hi Emma, I recently finished some chemistry courses that utilized the Mastering platform. I found that they were moderately accessible, but sometimes I found it difficult to read math or the eText with JAWS. Both JAWS and NVDA seem to work equally well with it, but I found that using a browser like Firefox was best. HTH, Aleeha > On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > What is the accessibility of Pearson my lab and mastering I’m taking a biology class and lab next semester I need help > What are accommodations you have used? > Emma > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From dsykora29 at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 21:26:05 2017 From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:26:05 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson In-Reply-To: <9FE9CEAE-FF34-40AD-B4D8-19F8F29525E4@gmail.com> References: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> <9FE9CEAE-FF34-40AD-B4D8-19F8F29525E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've used both MyMathLab and Mastering Chemistry. I found that most questions were accessible, particularly the chemistry, but not all. Here is how I handled it. For homework assignments that could be saved and completed in multiple sessions, I would complete whatever questions I could on my own and then schedule time to work with a reader if there were inaccessible questions. For quizzes, I would take them with a reader. Again, I would answer whatever questions I could on my own, and then ask the reder for assistance when necessary. Good luck, Danielle On 12/21/17, Aleeha Dudley via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Emma, > I recently finished some chemistry courses that utilized the Mastering > platform. I found that they were moderately accessible, but sometimes I > found it difficult to read math or the eText with JAWS. Both JAWS and NVDA > seem to work equally well with it, but I found that using a browser like > Firefox was best. > HTH, > Aleeha > >> On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> What is the accessibility of Pearson my lab and mastering I’m taking a >> biology class and lab next semester I need help >> What are accommodations you have used? >> Emma >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsykora29%40gmail.com > From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 21:48:05 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 13:48:05 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson In-Reply-To: References: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> <9FE9CEAE-FF34-40AD-B4D8-19F8F29525E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Emma and all, Pearson products are generally accessible-ish, but there are definitely issues with them. If you have any accessibility issues, contact me off-list. I used to work in the accessibility department, and I still have some useful contacts I can put you in touch with. For obvious reasons, I would rather not put their names and email addresses on a public email list. These issues will only be fixed if we continue letting the software developers know that the issues exist in the first place. Thanks! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman Stanford University | Class of 2021 On 12/21/17, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L wrote: > I've used both MyMathLab and Mastering Chemistry. I found that most > questions were accessible, particularly the chemistry, but not all. > Here is how I handled it. For homework assignments that could be saved > and completed in multiple sessions, I would complete whatever > questions I could on my own and then schedule time to work with a > reader if there were inaccessible questions. For quizzes, I would take > them with a reader. Again, I would answer whatever questions I could > on my own, and then ask the reder for assistance when necessary. > > Good luck, > Danielle > > On 12/21/17, Aleeha Dudley via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Emma, >> I recently finished some chemistry courses that utilized the Mastering >> platform. I found that they were moderately accessible, but sometimes I >> found it difficult to read math or the eText with JAWS. Both JAWS and NVDA >> seem to work equally well with it, but I found that using a browser like >> Firefox was best. >> HTH, >> Aleeha >> >>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> What is the accessibility of Pearson my lab and mastering I’m taking a >>> biology class and lab next semester I need help >>> What are accommodations you have used? >>> Emma >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsykora29%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 00:15:12 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 18:15:12 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Tagged PDF In-Reply-To: <001001d37a6f$7c419e30$74c4da90$@gmail.com> References: <001001d37a6f$7c419e30$74c4da90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0f0601d37ab9$fbfc9810$f3f5c830$@gmail.com> Yes, with OCR software called openbook. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of jamison via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:22 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: jamison.christopher3 at gmail.com Subject: [nabs-l] Tagged PDF Hello everyone, Have anyone successfully gotten jaws to read a tagged PDF? Respectfully Jamison _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 00:17:51 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 18:17:51 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson In-Reply-To: <831B48B1-EE01-4822-8A74-70C6197C28C7@gmail.com> References: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> <831B48B1-EE01-4822-8A74-70C6197C28C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0f2501d37aba$5acaeb30$1060c190$@gmail.com> Thanks for the wonderful information, Brianna! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:27 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Brianna Rigsbee Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson Good morning, Emma When I took my math courses, and needed to use MyMathLab, I would have a person hired by my school's disability office assist me with the problems that I found could not be completed while using JAWS. So maybe, if it'd be easiest for you, you can go talk to someone in your disability services department about what accomodations can be put into place to help you. I hope that helps. Have a great day. Best, Bri Brianna Rigsbee The one and only BREEZY > On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > What is the accessibility of Pearson my lab and mastering I’m taking a > biology class and lab next semester I need help What are accommodations you have used? > Emma > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com From logan4447 at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 04:27:21 2017 From: logan4447 at gmail.com (Logan Anderson) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 23:27:21 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson In-Reply-To: <0f2501d37aba$5acaeb30$1060c190$@gmail.com> References: <5A166E82-EB27-478D-B905-2A8481DA4A52@icloud.com> <831B48B1-EE01-4822-8A74-70C6197C28C7@gmail.com> <0f2501d37aba$5acaeb30$1060c190$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I currently use Mastering as part of my biology coursework, and my assessments of it match much of what has already been said. I did as many questions as possible on my own, and had a hired reader to help with any questions I could not accomplish myself. My professor and I discussed mastering several times due to the fact that my course required quite a bit of extra work. My professor was involved in working on Pearson accessibility for biology. There are several types of questions utilized in Mastering for biology. Some involve animations, though they are not necessarily needed to answer the questions. There are questions where lists of information must be grouped by dragging and dropping the items. There are also figure questions that display a picture or graph, and many of those, at least in my course, have been adapted with text explanations attached for visually impaired users. THis program is usable, though can be frustrating. I wish you luck, and if I can help further feel free to message me off list at logan4447 at gmail.com Logan > On Dec 21, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > > Thanks for the wonderful information, Brianna! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org ] On Behalf Of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:27 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Brianna Rigsbee > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessibility of Pearson > > Good morning, Emma > > When I took my math courses, and needed to use MyMathLab, I would have a person hired by my school's disability office assist me with the problems that I found could not be completed while using JAWS. So maybe, if it'd be easiest for you, you can go talk to someone in your disability services department about what accomodations can be put into place to help you. > > I hope that helps. Have a great day. > > Best, > Bri > > Brianna Rigsbee > The one and only BREEZY > >> On Dec 21, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >> >> What is the accessibility of Pearson my lab and mastering I’m taking a >> biology class and lab next semester I need help What are accommodations you have used? >> Emma >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gm >> ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/logan4447%40gmail.com From gpaikens at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 11:49:44 2017 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (gpaikens at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 06:49:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Tagged PDF In-Reply-To: <001001d37a6f$7c419e30$74c4da90$@gmail.com> References: <001001d37a6f$7c419e30$74c4da90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <015f01d37be4$2046d7f0$60d487d0$@gmail.com> Yes, If a PDF is tagged properly, it works well with screen readers. Are you having difficulty with one? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of jamison via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:22 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: jamison.christopher3 at gmail.com Subject: [nabs-l] Tagged PDF Hello everyone, Have anyone successfully gotten jaws to read a tagged PDF? Respectfully Jamison _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 02:11:36 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 19:11:36 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] ira in the news Message-ID: hello all, well, this past week on tell me which use to be free which is now a long distance service for getting news and information on your phone had a news clip on ira. to listen to it just go to the phone number which is 1-408-752-8052 and, then tell it news and, then ask for technology in the news section! when I first heard it didn't reconginize it but, after listening to it I remembered it! I thought this would be a good fyi for you all especially that ira is new to the nfb and, all the pr for it is good:) thanks, amy From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 04:05:27 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:05:27 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox help again! Message-ID: hello all again, well, I have tried chris's help in going to the folder that I want to share with someone by using shift plus f10 and, then I go to the share link where I hit enter and, then I have tried to use that feature to write in that field on who I want to share my folder with! I have tried sending and adding that person to my dropbox feature and, windows won't let me do this! so, how do I go about and add other people to dropbox so, I can share my folder with them by using jfw with some easier keystrokes? i'm trying to send my Christmas folder to him and, i'm having major problems doing this... any help would be greatly appreciated for me.... thanks, amy From zdreicer at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 04:48:02 2017 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:48:02 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] dropbox help again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I found that sharing through the Dropbox website is often easier. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Dec 23, 2017, at 21:05, Amy Sabo via NABS-L wrote: > > hello all again, > > well, I have tried chris's help in going to the folder that I want to > share with someone by using shift plus f10 and, then I go to the share > link where I hit enter and, then I have tried to use that feature to > write in that field on who I want to share my folder with! I have > tried sending and adding that person to my dropbox feature and, > windows won't let me do this! so, how do I go about and add other > people to dropbox so, I can share my folder with them by using jfw > with some easier keystrokes? i'm trying to send my Christmas folder to > him and, i'm having major problems doing this... any help would be > greatly appreciated for me.... > > > > thanks, > amy > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From truewise.8614 at gmail.com Tue Dec 26 03:56:02 2017 From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 19:56:02 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me In-Reply-To: <056501d378cd$a61d4040$f257c0c0$@gmail.com> References: <29F011CB-D08E-491D-B4FB-776DB94E1318@gmail.com> <00a201d3752f$ac7b49b0$0571dd10$@gmail.com> <1ABD2091-A26F-4545-9139-FE84E5B15A34@gmail.com> <056501d378cd$a61d4040$f257c0c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bri, Welcome aboard! I'm Vanna! I attend graduate school at the University of Washington in Seattle, Washington. I'm pursuing a Masters in Southeast Asian Studies. My countries of focus are Cambodia and Thailand. I'm congenitally blind as well, but I don't have microphthalmia. It is a pleasure to meet you. On 12/19/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Sounds great. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus > via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:25 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: rbacchus228 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] introducing me > > That is fine with me. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 19, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> I would like to thank each and every one of you for making me feel >> welcome. Since I was having trouble with replying to some messages, I am >> going to try to respond to you all privately, if that is ok. >> >> I look forward to talking to you all. >> >> Best, >> Brianna >> Brianna Rigsbee >> bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Cory McMahon >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Brianna, >>> >>> What prompted you to pursue an English degree?? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Cory McMahon >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brianna >>> Rigsbee via NABS-L >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:40 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Brianna Rigsbee >>> Subject: [nabs-l] introducing me >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> My name is Brianna, and I am a new member of the Federation. I am a >>> junior at Southern CT State University, majoring in English. I was born >>> completely blind due to Microphthalmia. >>> My hobbies include singing, reading and writing, hanging out with friends >>> and family, shopping, and just living life to the fullest. >>> >>> If you’d like to know more about me, please do not hesitate to reach out >>> to me. Have a fabulous day, and I look forward to getting to know all of >>> you. >>> >>> Best, >>> Bri >>> >>> Brianna Rigsbee >>> bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com >>> (203) 751-0199 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/truewise.8614%40gmail.com > From emitchell927 at icloud.com Tue Dec 26 06:18:41 2017 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 01:18:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about family and holiday break Message-ID: <81AEFBDA-C9B1-41E4-BEA1-A02EA607105F@icloud.com> Sent from my iPhone How do you manage extended family not understanding your disabilities? Emma From veronica.gaspa at student.shu.edu Tue Dec 26 15:05:29 2017 From: veronica.gaspa at student.shu.edu (Veronica R Gaspa) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 15:05:29 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about family and holiday break In-Reply-To: <81AEFBDA-C9B1-41E4-BEA1-A02EA607105F@icloud.com> References: <81AEFBDA-C9B1-41E4-BEA1-A02EA607105F@icloud.com> Message-ID: I think the best thing you can do is just keep trying to explain it to them. Also a good thing to do is show them, if you know you can do something on your own, but they try to step in to help, let them know you have it and be as insistent on that fact as you can. It just may take some time for them to get used to, but never give up! I hope this helps and I hope that you are having a wonderful holiday break! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Emma Mitchell via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:19 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Emma Mitchell Subject: [nabs-l] Question about family and holiday break Sent from my iPhone How do you manage extended family not understanding your disabilities? Emma _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veronica.gaspa%40student.shu.edu From mikgephart at icloud.com Wed Dec 27 18:01:13 2017 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 13:01:13 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Self-driving cars Message-ID: <823633F6-8422-4FF9-91BE-27A9C3066177@icloud.com> Happy holidays! What do you all think of this article about self-driving cars? https://www.indystar.com/story/money/cars/2017/11/23/self-driving-cars-programmed-decide-who-dies-crash/891493001/ Mikayla From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com Wed Dec 27 21:39:37 2017 From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 16:39:37 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Final reminder Message-ID: Dear Students, I hope you had a Merry Christmas and preparing to have a happy new year. This email is a reminder tell you about tonight’s outreach phone call. The call is at 9 o clock eastern time. We hope to see you there. The calling information is as follows Call: 712-770-5197 Access code: 265669 All the best, Tarik Williams M.A. NOMC Chair of Outreach Board Member of NABS Sent from my iPhone From emitchell927 at icloud.com Thu Dec 28 17:38:19 2017 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:38:19 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Service dog trainers Message-ID: <2FD09C5C-E093-48AA-BD33-7AB01EC10712@icloud.com> Dear all, This Christmas I was surprised by a puppy by my parents. She is a three month year old Australian Shepherd with the hope of becoming a service dog in her future do you know of possible trainers for service dogs? Ps. Is there a certain age in which she has to be in order to start the training itself? Thank you, Emma From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Thu Dec 28 20:46:37 2017 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:46:37 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Service dog trainers In-Reply-To: <2FD09C5C-E093-48AA-BD33-7AB01EC10712@icloud.com> References: <2FD09C5C-E093-48AA-BD33-7AB01EC10712@icloud.com> Message-ID: <6528EB20-EC72-4904-B2B7-07D41748EB2E@gmail.com> Hey Emma, I would point you to the NAGDU email list, hosted at Nfbnet.org There are some very experienced owner trainers there who would have resources for you. Out of curiosity, what would you like your dog to do? Do you want guide work or some other tasks? Aleeha Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > > Dear all, > This Christmas I was surprised by a puppy by my parents. > She is a three month year old Australian Shepherd with the hope of becoming a service dog in her future do you know of possible trainers for service dogs? > Ps. Is there a certain age in which she has to be in order to start the training itself? > Thank you, Emma > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com Thu Dec 28 21:59:22 2017 From: mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:59:22 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Common app accessibility Message-ID: <769ED93C-B22F-4222-84F5-C72E9DAD9C02@gmail.com> Hi all, I hope everyone is having a relaxing Holiday season. I am slowly trudging towards the end of the college application process. Along the way, I have encountered a few accessibility issues with the common app. They haven't been catastrophic; just inconveniences that require a pair of eyes here and there. I'm curious to know if any of you have had any trouble with it, and if you have found any interesting workarounds. Thanks, Mausam From singingemmanuelle at gmail.com Thu Dec 28 23:44:28 2017 From: singingemmanuelle at gmail.com (Emmanuelle Lo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:44:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Common app accessibility In-Reply-To: <769ED93C-B22F-4222-84F5-C72E9DAD9C02@gmail.com> References: <769ED93C-B22F-4222-84F5-C72E9DAD9C02@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C40054D-14BA-4533-BC04-B52E680E1996@gmail.com> Hi Mausam, I'm in a similar boat with application deadlines fast approaching. For the most part, I was able to fill out all of the Common App without visual assistance, but there are a few weird quirks. I use a Mac with Voiceover. Sometimes when I would try to select an option (like a major or activity category), I couldn't select it. I learned that you can get around that by typing the selection you want word for word in the search box. (I'm hoping that made sense. The Common App layout is hard to describe to someone not familiar with it). I also had to be careful to make sure the wrong radio buttons didn't accidentally get selected. The only part I really can't do on my own is the review and submit process. The final application preview is not accessible, but that orked out fine, because I wanted other pairs of eyes to proofread everything anyway. Good luck on the rest of your college process, and Happy New Year! Emmie > On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Mausam Mehta via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > I hope everyone is having a relaxing Holiday season. > I am slowly trudging towards the end of the college application process. Along the way, I have encountered a few accessibility issues with the common app. They haven't been catastrophic; just inconveniences that require a pair of eyes here and there. I'm curious to know if any of you have had any trouble with it, and if you have found any interesting workarounds. > Thanks, > Mausam > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/singingemmanuelle%40gmail.com From mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com Thu Dec 28 23:58:34 2017 From: mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:58:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Common app accessibility In-Reply-To: <3C40054D-14BA-4533-BC04-B52E680E1996@gmail.com> References: <769ED93C-B22F-4222-84F5-C72E9DAD9C02@gmail.com> <3C40054D-14BA-4533-BC04-B52E680E1996@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Emmie! Those were the exact problems I was having, except with JAWS and a PC. I guess it's universal. Good luck to you as well! > On Dec 28, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Mausam, > > I'm in a similar boat with application deadlines fast approaching. For the most part, I was able to fill out all of the Common App without visual assistance, but there are a few weird quirks. I use a Mac with Voiceover. Sometimes when I would try to select an option (like a major or activity category), I couldn't select it. I learned that you can get around that by typing the selection you want word for word in the search box. (I'm hoping that made sense. The Common App layout is hard to describe to someone not familiar with it). I also had to be careful to make sure the wrong radio buttons didn't accidentally get selected. The only part I really can't do on my own is the review and submit process. The final application preview is not accessible, but that orked out fine, because I wanted other pairs of eyes to proofread everything anyway. > > Good luck on the rest of your college process, and Happy New Year! > Emmie > >> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Mausam Mehta via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I hope everyone is having a relaxing Holiday season. >> I am slowly trudging towards the end of the college application process. Along the way, I have encountered a few accessibility issues with the common app. They haven't been catastrophic; just inconveniences that require a pair of eyes here and there. I'm curious to know if any of you have had any trouble with it, and if you have found any interesting workarounds. >> Thanks, >> Mausam >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/singingemmanuelle%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausam.mehta00%40gmail.com From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Fri Dec 29 00:20:44 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 19:20:44 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Common app accessibility In-Reply-To: <3C40054D-14BA-4533-BC04-B52E680E1996@gmail.com> References: <769ED93C-B22F-4222-84F5-C72E9DAD9C02@gmail.com> <3C40054D-14BA-4533-BC04-B52E680E1996@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16576589-0499-4D1D-A2CC-61834BBC73F0@gmail.com> I am around in accessibility on the computer. So to deal with this, are used my iPad for most of it. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 28, 2017, at 18:44, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Mausam, > > I'm in a similar boat with application deadlines fast approaching. For the most part, I was able to fill out all of the Common App without visual assistance, but there are a few weird quirks. I use a Mac with Voiceover. Sometimes when I would try to select an option (like a major or activity category), I couldn't select it. I learned that you can get around that by typing the selection you want word for word in the search box. (I'm hoping that made sense. The Common App layout is hard to describe to someone not familiar with it). I also had to be careful to make sure the wrong radio buttons didn't accidentally get selected. The only part I really can't do on my own is the review and submit process. The final application preview is not accessible, but that orked out fine, because I wanted other pairs of eyes to proofread everything anyway. > > Good luck on the rest of your college process, and Happy New Year! > Emmie > >> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Mausam Mehta via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I hope everyone is having a relaxing Holiday season. >> I am slowly trudging towards the end of the college application process. Along the way, I have encountered a few accessibility issues with the common app. They haven't been catastrophic; just inconveniences that require a pair of eyes here and there. I'm curious to know if any of you have had any trouble with it, and if you have found any interesting workarounds. >> Thanks, >> Mausam >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/singingemmanuelle%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Fri Dec 29 00:49:45 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 19:49:45 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] OT, help with college Message-ID: <066c01d3803e$ebee3160$c3ca9420$@gmail.com> Dear all, I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas. I want to sell a Moshi digital clock; The device is new but the box has been opened. If anyone is interested please write me off list. Thanks, Nesma From bluezinfandel at hotmail.com Fri Dec 29 18:15:10 2017 From: bluezinfandel at hotmail.com (Ben Fulton) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:15:10 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Sheet music Message-ID: Hi all, I recently got a piano for Christmas. I used to play and am interested in learning more songs, but I am not very good at figuring out songs by ear alone. I know about time signatures and chords (well maybe not all of them) but if someone says a c major half not I know what to play. My braille is horrible, and I don't even have a display. I use jaws for everything. I'm wondering what is out there in a digital form that would let me know how to play popular songs. I have a list of songs that I would like to learn, but I don't know how to get music that I can read. I'm not even sure what the conventions for writing this out really are. I would think something like -- Bar 1 left hand c major whole note right hand 1/4 d 1/4 d 1/2e Second bar left hand c7 whole note right hand 1/4 f 1/4f 1/2 G sharp -- or something like that If someone could point me to a source where I could learn how to play popular songs I would really appreciate that. Kind regards, Ben From jrzobek at gmail.com Fri Dec 29 18:30:15 2017 From: jrzobek at gmail.com (Jonathan Zobek) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 13:30:15 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Sheet music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85F401A7-0EBB-4D35-B2DB-211F3867BF54@gmail.com> Hello. Try HDPiano. Unfortunately, they are a paid service, but they have some videos free on YouTube. You can sift through them by searching HDPiano on YouTube, and looking through their channel. They describe how to play songs very well in my experience. Jonathan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2017, at 13:15, Ben Fulton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I recently got a piano for Christmas. I used to play and am interested in > learning more songs, but I am not very good at figuring out songs by ear > alone. > > I know about time signatures and chords (well maybe not all of them) but if > someone says a c major half not I know what to play. > > My braille is horrible, and I don't even have a display. I use jaws for > everything. > > I'm wondering what is out there in a digital form that would let me know how > to play popular songs. I have a list of songs that I would like to learn, > but I don't know how to get music that I can read. > > I'm not even sure what the conventions for writing this out really are. > I would think something like -- Bar 1 left hand c major whole note right > hand 1/4 d 1/4 d 1/2e Second bar left hand c7 whole note right hand 1/4 f > 1/4f 1/2 G sharp -- or something like that > If someone could point me to a source where I could learn how to play > popular songs I would really appreciate that. > > Kind regards, > Ben > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jrzobek%40gmail.com From bluezinfandel at hotmail.com Sat Dec 30 20:58:39 2017 From: bluezinfandel at hotmail.com (Ben Fulton) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:58:39 +0000 Subject: [nABS-L] NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jonathon, That was an interesting site, although, like you mentioned it is a paid service, and the videos are informative, but time consuming. Ideally I would like some music that I could read easily without needing to watch the video. This is especially good for when you forget a small portion of the song, and you can go through a text file quickly to find the part you forgot, instead of going through a video. I'm still looking for a way to get sheet music that I could actually read. All the best, Ben Try HDPiano. Unfortunately, they are a paid service, but they have some videos free on YouTube. You can sift through them by searching HDPiano on YouTube, and looking through their channel. They describe how to play songs very well in my experience. Jonathan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2017, at 13:15, Ben Fulton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I recently got a piano for Christmas. I used to play and am interested > in learning more songs, but I am not very good at figuring out songs > by ear alone. > > I know about time signatures and chords (well maybe not all of them) > but if someone says a c major half not I know what to play. > > My braille is horrible, and I don't even have a display. I use jaws > for everything. > > I'm wondering what is out there in a digital form that would let me > know how to play popular songs. I have a list of songs that I would > like to learn, but I don't know how to get music that I can read. > > I'm not even sure what the conventions for writing this out really are. > I would think something like -- Bar 1 left hand c major whole note > right hand 1/4 d 1/4 d 1/2e Second bar left hand c7 whole note right > hand 1/4 f 1/4f 1/2 G sharp -- or something like that If someone could > point me to a source where I could learn how to play popular songs I > would really appreciate that. > > Kind regards, > Ben > From jrzobek at gmail.com Sat Dec 30 21:15:57 2017 From: jrzobek at gmail.com (jrzobek at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:15:57 -0500 Subject: [nABS-L] NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ben, OK. Is Luther only suggestion I have. Best, Jonathan Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2017, at 15:58, Ben Fulton via NABS-L wrote: > > > Hi Jonathon, > > That was an interesting site, although, like you mentioned it is a paid > service, and the videos are informative, but time consuming. Ideally I would > like some music that I could read easily without needing to watch the video. > This is especially good for when you forget a small portion of the song, and > you can go through a text file quickly to find the part you forgot, instead > of going through a video. > > I'm still looking for a way to get sheet music that I could actually read. > > All the best, > Ben > > > Try HDPiano. Unfortunately, they are a paid service, but they have some > videos free on YouTube. You can sift through them by searching HDPiano on > YouTube, and looking through their channel. They describe how to play songs > very well in my experience. > > Jonathan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2017, at 13:15, Ben Fulton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I recently got a piano for Christmas. I used to play and am interested >> in learning more songs, but I am not very good at figuring out songs >> by ear alone. >> >> I know about time signatures and chords (well maybe not all of them) >> but if someone says a c major half not I know what to play. >> >> My braille is horrible, and I don't even have a display. I use jaws >> for everything. >> >> I'm wondering what is out there in a digital form that would let me >> know how to play popular songs. I have a list of songs that I would >> like to learn, but I don't know how to get music that I can read. >> >> I'm not even sure what the conventions for writing this out really are. >> I would think something like -- Bar 1 left hand c major whole note >> right hand 1/4 d 1/4 d 1/2e Second bar left hand c7 whole note right >> hand 1/4 f 1/4f 1/2 G sharp -- or something like that If someone could >> point me to a source where I could learn how to play popular songs I >> would really appreciate that. >> >> Kind regards, >> Ben >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jrzobek%40gmail.com From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Sun Dec 31 11:19:24 2017 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 11:19:24 +0000 Subject: [nABS-L] [nabs-l] Music Therapy Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I seem to remember someone mentioning an NFB list for Music Therapy students/practitioners. I tried to search on the Internet but couldn't find it. Does anyone remember where to find it? I hope everyone here finds 2018 to be less trying than this year. Sandra. -- Sandra Gayer DipABRSM. Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Actor www.visablepeople.com Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From dandrews at visi.com Sun Dec 31 16:51:38 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 10:51:38 -0600 Subject: [nABS-L] [nabs-l] Music Therapy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is no specific list for music therapists. There is Music Talk, for Musicians, and Human Services for people working in human services. That is as close as we come. Dave At 05:19 AM 12/31/2017, you wrote: >Hello Everyone, >I seem to remember someone mentioning an NFB list for Music Therapy >students/practitioners. I tried to search on the Internet but couldn't >find it. Does anyone remember where to find it? > >I hope everyone here finds 2018 to be less trying than this year. >Sandra. > >-- >Sandra Gayer DipABRSM. > >Soprano Singer >www.sandragayer.com > >Broadcast Presenter >www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html > >Actor >www.visablepeople.com > >Voiceover Artist >www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From iperrault at hotmail.com Sun Dec 31 17:11:01 2017 From: iperrault at hotmail.com (Ian Perrault) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 17:11:01 +0000 Subject: [nABS-L] IPhone 8 or iPhone 10 Message-ID: Hi, I'm thinking about a new iPhone, and I currently have the iPhone 6. Would you suggest either the iPhone 8 or the iPhone 10? I was told that the only differences are that the iPhone 10 has a bigger display, which wouldn't matter, and the iPhone 10 doesn't have a home button on it. How do you work around this, as well as the face recognition? Ian From matthewhgip at gmail.com Sun Dec 31 17:25:08 2017 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 11:25:08 -0600 Subject: [nABS-L] IPhone 8 or iPhone 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24FFD5CE-E9A2-4756-86FF-61C27167F83D@gmail.com> Hi Ian, Both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X is definitely useful to its capacity. However, it really depends on what your preference is and what you’re more comfortable. Best regards, Matthew Gip President, California Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California Phone: (559) 375-2068 Live The Life You Want! > On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > I'm thinking about a new iPhone, and I currently have the iPhone 6. Would you suggest either the iPhone 8 or the iPhone 10? I was told that the only differences are that the iPhone 10 has a bigger display, which wouldn't matter, and the iPhone 10 doesn't have a home button on it. How do you work around this, as well as the face recognition? > Ian > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Sun Dec 31 18:33:09 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 13:33:09 -0500 Subject: [nABS-L] SUBJECT Message-ID: Why did the subject change from NABS-l to nABS-l? It sounds kind of weird and isn't correct. -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From aharris2006 at gmail.com Sun Dec 31 20:51:37 2017 From: aharris2006 at gmail.com (Angel Harris) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 14:51:37 -0600 Subject: [nABS-L] Ben Fulton. NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 27 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <881245F7-66CA-4AB3-AC84-2BC708136F3C@gmail.com> Hello Ben, There are several music programs out there for blind & low vision musicians. Some that come to mind immediately are GOODFEEL by Dancing Dots, Opus Dots and Toccata by Opus Technologies, and the Tactile Stave Notation System for Music. I’m not sure if any of these would suit your purposes, but one or more may be helpful. Angel Harris Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 6:00 AM, nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > > Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 26 (Ben Fulton) > 2. Re: NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 26 (jrzobek at gmail.com) > 3. [nabs-l] Music Therapy (Sandra Gayer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:58:39 +0000 > From: Ben Fulton > To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" > Subject: Re: [nABS-L] NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 26 > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Hi Jonathon, > > That was an interesting site, although, like you mentioned it is a paid > service, and the videos are informative, but time consuming. Ideally I would > like some music that I could read easily without needing to watch the video. > This is especially good for when you forget a small portion of the song, and > you can go through a text file quickly to find the part you forgot, instead > of going through a video. > > I'm still looking for a way to get sheet music that I could actually read. > > All the best, > Ben > > > Try HDPiano. Unfortunately, they are a paid service, but they have some > videos free on YouTube. You can sift through them by searching HDPiano on > YouTube, and looking through their channel. They describe how to play songs > very well in my experience. > > Jonathan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2017, at 13:15, Ben Fulton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I recently got a piano for Christmas. I used to play and am interested >> in learning more songs, but I am not very good at figuring out songs >> by ear alone. >> >> I know about time signatures and chords (well maybe not all of them) >> but if someone says a c major half not I know what to play. >> >> My braille is horrible, and I don't even have a display. I use jaws >> for everything. >> >> I'm wondering what is out there in a digital form that would let me >> know how to play popular songs. I have a list of songs that I would >> like to learn, but I don't know how to get music that I can read. >> >> I'm not even sure what the conventions for writing this out really are. >> I would think something like -- Bar 1 left hand c major whole note >> right hand 1/4 d 1/4 d 1/2e Second bar left hand c7 whole note right >> hand 1/4 f 1/4f 1/2 G sharp -- or something like that If someone could >> point me to a source where I could learn how to play popular songs I >> would really appreciate that. >> >> Kind regards, >> Ben >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:15:57 -0500 > From: jrzobek at gmail.com > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [nABS-L] NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 26 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Ben, > > OK. Is Luther only suggestion I have. > > Best, > Jonathan > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 30, 2017, at 15:58, Ben Fulton via NABS-L wrote: >> >> >> Hi Jonathon, >> >> That was an interesting site, although, like you mentioned it is a paid >> service, and the videos are informative, but time consuming. Ideally I would >> like some music that I could read easily without needing to watch the video. >> This is especially good for when you forget a small portion of the song, and >> you can go through a text file quickly to find the part you forgot, instead >> of going through a video. >> >> I'm still looking for a way to get sheet music that I could actually read. >> >> All the best, >> Ben >> >> >> Try HDPiano. Unfortunately, they are a paid service, but they have some >> videos free on YouTube. You can sift through them by searching HDPiano on >> YouTube, and looking through their channel. They describe how to play songs >> very well in my experience. >> >> Jonathan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 29, 2017, at 13:15, Ben Fulton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I recently got a piano for Christmas. I used to play and am interested >>> in learning more songs, but I am not very good at figuring out songs >>> by ear alone. >>> >>> I know about time signatures and chords (well maybe not all of them) >>> but if someone says a c major half not I know what to play. >>> >>> My braille is horrible, and I don't even have a display. I use jaws >>> for everything. >>> >>> I'm wondering what is out there in a digital form that would let me >>> know how to play popular songs. I have a list of songs that I would >>> like to learn, but I don't know how to get music that I can read. >>> >>> I'm not even sure what the conventions for writing this out really are. >>> I would think something like -- Bar 1 left hand c major whole note >>> right hand 1/4 d 1/4 d 1/2e Second bar left hand c7 whole note right >>> hand 1/4 f 1/4f 1/2 G sharp -- or something like that If someone could >>> point me to a source where I could learn how to play popular songs I >>> would really appreciate that. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Ben >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jrzobek%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 11:19:24 +0000 > From: Sandra Gayer > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nABS-L] [nabs-l] Music Therapy > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello Everyone, > I seem to remember someone mentioning an NFB list for Music Therapy > students/practitioners. I tried to search on the Internet but couldn't > find it. Does anyone remember where to find it? > > I hope everyone here finds 2018 to be less trying than this year. > Sandra. > > -- > Sandra Gayer DipABRSM. > > Soprano Singer > www.sandragayer.com > > Broadcast Presenter > www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html > > Actor > www.visablepeople.com > > Voiceover Artist > www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 134, Issue 27 > *************************************** From sweetpeareader at gmail.com Sun Dec 31 21:00:34 2017 From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 15:00:34 -0600 Subject: [nABS-L] IPhone 8 or iPhone 10 Message-ID: <5a494ff8.4f98810a.fd90e.ee28@mx.google.com> Hi Ian, The iPhone 8, which I currently use, doesn't have a home button either, at least not like the older phones. There is an identation at the bottom of the screen that, when you press it, feels almost exactly like the real home button. It doesn't changa how you use the phone at all. In addition to facial recognition, the iPhone 10 also has a longer battery life. For me, these perks, cool though they are, didn't justify the high price tag. As Matthew said, it reaaly depends on what's right for you, conow much these small differences mean, and how much money you are willing to spend. All Best, Sophie Trist On Dec 31, 2017 11:25 AM, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > Both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X is definitely useful to its capacity. However, it really depends on what your preference is and what you’re more comfortable. > > Best regards, > Matthew Gip > President, California Association of Blind Students > A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California > Phone: (559) 375-2068 > Live The Life You Want! > > > On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm thinking about a new iPhone, and I currently have the iPhone 6. Would you suggest either the iPhone 8 or the iPhone 10? I was told that the only differences are that the iPhone 10 has a bigger display, which wouldn't matter, and the iPhone 10 doesn't have a home button on it. How do you work around this, as well as the face recognition? > > Ian > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareader%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Sun Dec 31 22:11:23 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:11:23 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] [nABS-L] SUBJECT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it was my fault. I have fixed it. I was editing some list configuration files, yesterday, to tweak some back-end settings, and I must have accidently changed the setting that puts the NABS-L onto the subject line to a small n. Thanks for pointing it out. Dave At 12:33 PM 12/31/2017, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L wrote: >Why did the subject change from NABS-l to nABS-l? >It sounds kind of weird and isn't correct. >-- > >Take Care, >Tyler Littlefield > >Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business >solutions. My personal site > My Linkedin > @Sorressean on Twitter > From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Sun Dec 31 23:56:25 2017 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 15:56:25 -0800 Subject: [NABS-L] [nABS-L] IPhone 8 or iPhone 10 In-Reply-To: <5a494ff8.4f98810a.fd90e.ee28@mx.google.com> References: <5a494ff8.4f98810a.fd90e.ee28@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <71AA7F9E-9900-4656-ACA4-7533982D56CA@gmail.com> Hi, Originally, I was going to upgrade to the iPhone 8, but I ended up going with the iPhone X. The larger screen is great if you use braille screen input, and the battery life is also great. I've been able to get around a day and a half, to two days of use out of my iPhone, due to the fact I have screen curtain on, and because of the display technology on the iPhone itself. FaceID works seamlessly on the iPhone, and I have not had any issues with it myself. The phone will guide you while you set it up for the first time. The speakers on the iPhone X are also louder, which will be useful when you're in a loud area. Hope that helps with your decision making. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Sophie Trist via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > The iPhone 8, which I currently use, doesn't have a home button either, at least not like the older phones. There is an identation at the bottom of the screen that, when you press it, feels almost exactly like the real home button. It doesn't changa how you use the phone at all. In addition to facial recognition, the iPhone 10 also has a longer battery life. For me, these perks, cool though they are, didn't justify the high price tag. As Matthew said, it reaaly depends on what's right for you, conow much these small differences mean, and how much money you are willing to spend. > > All Best, > Sophie Trist > >> On Dec 31, 2017 11:25 AM, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ian, >> >> Both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X is definitely useful to its capacity. However, it really depends on what your preference is and what you’re more comfortable. >> >> Best regards, >> Matthew Gip >> President, California Association of Blind Students >> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >> Live The Life You Want! >> >>> On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I'm thinking about a new iPhone, and I currently have the iPhone 6. Would you suggest either the iPhone 8 or the iPhone 10? I was told that the only differences are that the iPhone 10 has a bigger display, which wouldn't matter, and the iPhone 10 doesn't have a home button on it. How do you work around this, as well as the face recognition? >>> Ian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareader%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com