[nabs-l] Question about Braille Textbooks
Rilind Dragoshi
dragoshi11 at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 3 15:41:15 UTC 2017
Hello Vejas.
I've graduated with my B/A in Psych and am taking some French courses now beofore going in to my masters. I'll try my best to answer your question based on my experience. In my situation with textbooks, during Elementary and high school the books were kept on shelves. By the time I got to High school, a lot of my textbooks were able to be translated in to E-text with the exception of Math and Science books.
For University, I was in a similar position as I believe you had described, as there was no shelf space, etc. I only needed textbooks for two courses, Statistics and French. What I would recommend is see how well the syllabus is followed, and if need be verify to make sure you have the needed pages for any given day. A lot of professors will, from my experience, also try to have you not carry as much, so to make them comfortable by letting them know that you want to be prepared so even if it's something that they may potentially cover that it is something that they should feel comfortable letting you know, and to let them know to notify you if there is something else you should bring different from what is on the syllabus. If it happens that something is covered from a class that isn't on the syllabus or that the professor hasn't told you in advance to bring, a friendly reminder of the above is okay. In such a case the importance is listening carefully, taking down what pages you need to check, reviewing it as soon as you can, and asking any questions about the material that you have. Once you establish a good connection with your professor in terms of your academic needs, this should be very rare, and, very likely only accidental.
For any science or stats courses or other courses, it's also important to know if there are any tables or things in the appendices (which is more commonly known as the back of the book) that you need regularly during class. The syllabus often doesn't include these sections from my experience as it is assumed everyone has the book. To make things easier, if you are taking such a course, I would recommend asking what is needed, and then making sure that you can find it and also know when you need to bring it. In my case when I used certain tables in my stats courses such as unit normal table, anova, etc, I needed to bring my appendices volumes. I had two volumes just for the appendices, and depending on whichtable was being used I needed either one of them or both along with any volume from my regular textbook chapter that was being covered on any particular day.
Hope this helps and all the best:
Rilind.
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5. Re: Question about Braille Textbooks (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
6. Re: Question about Braille Textbooks (Lizzy)
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8. Re: Question about Braille Textbooks (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 07:47:07 -0600
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Is there a chance refreshable Braille can be used for the classroom portion?
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 07:48:42 -0600
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Hi everyone,
I am wondering about homeschooling. Is it possible to homeschool a blind student in math and science? I would think that there is a possible way to do it, but we wouldn't have an embosser and don't know if we'd be able to get Brailled upper, advanced math and science textbooks. What suggestions do you'all have on this topic?
Thank you,
Ahbee
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Hi,
Welcome to the list! I'm new as well.
During high school, I had a rolling desk with my Braille books I needed for that day's class in it. There was another room where the rest of the books were stored on shelves.
When the teacher gave assignments, they usually gave pages, but if they didn't, I'd ask them. Then, I would check the volume that was currently in my desk to see if it had the correct pages; if not, my tutor would help me get the volume that did.
Jen
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Hi,
I hope everyone is having a great 2017. I understand that there is not going to be a "One-size fits all" answer to my question, so was just curious about what others have done.
I have 2 classes that will have Braille textbooks. This is different to last semester, when I had all electronic books.
I am in a single room but regardount of rooming situations, when it comes to storing all the volumes of textbooks do you:
- Store all textbooks in your dorm?
- Keep the volumes you currently need in the dorm, but keep the rest in the DSS office?
Or any other method?
Also, do you email the teacher ahead of time to ask which pages will be used?
Any ideas would be great.
Thanks,
Vejas
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Hi Ahbee,
I homeschooled from kindergarten through high school graduation, so I have a few ideas. First, depending on what state you're in, you can homeschool but still have an IEP through your local school district and receive supplementary services through them, including Braille transcription. Second, you could reach out to your state agency for the blind for transcription assistance, if you're of age to have a counselor. Third, you could get textbooks from sources like the American Printing House for the Blind (expensive, but maybe your state agency would help with the cost?), Bookshare, or volunteer transcription agencies. Finally, you might look into Hadley's math and science courses.
I hope this helps, and feel free to reach out if you have any more questions about homeschooling; it was a great experience for me!
Lucy
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Hi everyone,
I am wondering about homeschooling. Is it possible to homeschool a blind student in math and science? I would think that there is a possible way to do it, but we wouldn't have an embosser and don't know if we'd be able to get Brailled upper, advanced math and science textbooks. What suggestions do you'all have on this topic?
Thank you,
Ahbee
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Hi Gary,
I do have a Braillenote, and that's a good idea to see if either of the boks are online, especially the Spanish textbook.
Vejas
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> Is there a chance refreshable Braille can be used for the classroom portion?
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Hi Vejas,
In general, the only classes that require you to bring the book
with you are language courses and ones where you are studying a
certain book (English, any type of literature, Anthropology or
something like that). For other classes, you usually just read
the book on your own and go to class to gain the professor's
perspective. I say all that to say that emailing about page
numbers is not generally necessary. Now, in the event that
you're taking a language class, you typically need the book to go
over the previous night's homework or do an activity of some
sort. In that case, you're generally fine if you take the volume
that you've used the night before (knowing that if you're
approaching the end of the volume it's safe to bring the next one
along as well). I've personally chosen to keep all of my books
in my room, but my school has a very small DS Office with only
one person and one room so if I needed a book I'd have to
interrupt her and ask to get one of my books. So basically, it's
up to you. Also note that some professors don't even like or
rarely reference text books so carrying those volumes is
unnecessary for certain classes. I would probably play it by ear
for the first couple of days to see how important the textbook is
and how helpful the syllabus is.
HTH,
Lizzy
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 13:39:31 -0500
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Hi,
I do not have an answer for you. However, this is making me feel better about college. My TVI had said that I may not get braille textbooks in college. Thank you for sending this message.
Mikayla
> On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:51 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I hope everyone is having a great 2017. I understand that there is not going to be a "One-size fits all" answer to my question, so was just curious about what others have done.
> I have 2 classes that will have Braille textbooks. This is different to last semester, when I had all electronic books.
> I am in a single room but regardount of rooming situations, when it comes to storing all the volumes of textbooks do you:
> - Store all textbooks in your dorm?
> - Keep the volumes you currently need in the dorm, but keep the rest in the DSS office?
> Or any other method?
> Also, do you email the teacher ahead of time to ask which pages will be used?
> Any ideas would be great.
> Thanks,
> Vejas
>
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 11:14:11 -0800
From: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
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Mikayla,
I'm glad my mesage made you feel better. In some cases, however,
your VI teacher is correct.
Many Braille textbooks can be found electronically if you have a
notetaker or Braille display. You can also get them in audio if
you have a Victor stream. In some classes, such as math, it may
not be possible to find a copy of the textbook you need; in a
case like that, my school's DSS, the teacher and yourself would
discuss the best course of action. Sometimes, another similar
version will be available and the teacher will work with a
similar version, but I am in a small school with small classes,
so do not know if this is always possible. Every individual
situation is unique to the individual.
Vejas
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Hi,
I do not have an answer for you. However, this is making me
feel better about college. My TVI had said that I may not get
braille textbooks in college. Thank you for sending this
message.
Mikayla
On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:51 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hi,
I hope everyone is having a great 2017. I understand that there
is not going to be a "One-size fits all" answer to my question,
so was just curious about what others have done.
I have 2 classes that will have Braille textbooks. This is
different to last semester, when I had all electronic books.
I am in a single room but regardount of rooming situations, when
it comes to storing all the volumes of textbooks do you:
- Store all textbooks in your dorm?
- Keep the volumes you currently need in the dorm, but keep the
rest in the DSS office?
Or any other method?
Also, do you email the teacher ahead of time to ask which pages
will be used?
Any ideas would be great.
Thanks,
Vejas
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 20:54:39 -0500
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Hi All,
I was asked to circulate the following document. If anyone is interested,
please contact Nathan at: 410-446-7259
Please tell all of the people you know!
Thanks for all your help!
Nesma
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