[nabs-l] College Math Homework on the Perkins Brailler

Tue Jan 17 01:29:12 UTC 2017

Hi Vejas and all,

I, too, find it much easier to solve math problems using a Perkins
brailler and did so in all my math and statistics courses throughout
college. I typically
read my work aloud to a scribe (who was hired by the Disability
Services office) so that he/she can write out everything in print. On
several occasions the professor arranged for me to meet with a
graduate student teaching assistant once a week to transcribe my
answers. Like Alleha I never got the Nemeth mode on my Braille Note to
work properly; it produced math in written text (rather than sympbolic
form) that is very hard for sighted readers to understand. It has been
a while since I last tried it though, so I would encourage you to
enter a few math equations using Nemeth on your Apex and have a
sighted person check the printed results. Hope this helps!

Katie

On 1/16/17, Aleeha Dudley via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> When I tried that feature, it did not work properly, displaying the math in
> words, rather than in symbols. For example, a fraction would appear as open
> frac 2 over 3 close frac. My instructor had a great deal of issue
> understanding this method.
> Aleeha
>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Kristen Steele via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Vejas--
>>
>> Yes, nearly all symbols appear mathematically, as you would write them
>> in print. I now have my Apex switched to UEB, and it appears you have
>> to be in USA Braille for Nemeth input to work. Once your keyboard
>> Braille grade is switched back, you can enter Nemeth mode from any
>> KeyWord file by pressing Backspace-N. The Symbol Selector is accessed
>> by Backspace-3-5. From that point, you just type in Nemeth, as if you
>> were using a Brailler, and when converted to Word, all symbols will
>> appear correctly in print.
>>
>> There is also a section in the User Guide under Nemeth Topics that
>> explains the feature. If you have any other questions throughout the
>> course, feel free to get in touch!
>> --
>> Kristen
>>
>> On 1/16/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Kristen,
>>> I have never used the Nemeth feature on my Apex before.  I'm glad
>>> you have had a positive experience with it.
>>> Do you just set the braillenote to computer Braille and work with
>>> a document that way? And are you able to show your work well?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vejas
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Kristen Steele via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 11:07:38 -0600
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Math Homework on the Perkins
>>> Brailler
>>>
>>> Hi, Vejas--
>>>
>>> I know what you mean about seeing equations lined up on the
>>> Brailler
>>> to solve them more easily.  Are you familiar with the Nemeth
>>> input
>>> translation software on the Apex? All of my math instructors were
>>> able
>>> to see my work perfectly when I e-mailed it to them in a MS Word
>>> file.
>>>
>>> This is a little tedious, but personally, if it were me, I would
>>> solve
>>> your questions on the Brailler to visualize the formulas, then
>>> retype
>>> your work in the Nemeth mode on the Apex and send it in
>>> electronically.  That way, you are responsible for your own
>>> answers,
>>> and it eliminates the potential error of the middle person.
>>> Also, if
>>> you have a question on something, you know exactly what you wrote
>>> and
>>> to which portion to draw the teacher's attention.
>>>
>>> I find it quicker to pull up previous assignments on the
>>> BrailleNote
>>> when studying for tests or checking your homework in class,
>>> rather
>>> than searching through a stack of Braille pages in folders, which
>>> you
>>> won't need to save after you enter your work electronically for
>>> each
>>> assignment.  Another benefit is the built-in Symbol Selector that
>>> is a
>>> good reference tool if you aren't sure on a particular Nemeth
>>> sign.
>>>
>>> That's just my preference for math courses.  Hope it is useful!
>>> --
>>> Kristen
>>>
>>> On 1/16/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have a question regarding math homework.
>>> I am taking a math course (quantitative reasoning), that is held
>>> twice a week.  Homework is assigned at every session and
>>> collected at the next session.  Work must be shown if applicable
>>> (if it's more than just punching something really simple into
>>> the
>>> calculator).
>>> I use a Perkins Brailler to do my homework because I like how
>>> easily all the numbers line up.  I was wondering for anyone who
>>> has also used one, how you would get it into print for the
>>> teacher.  My Disability Services are extremely helpful and I
>>> could tell one of the grad student staff the answers for them to
>>> write out, but I was just curious if others have done it
>>> differently.  If all my professor wanted was the answers, I
>>> could
>>> do all the problems on the Brailler and then make an electronic
>>> file with the answers on them, but work does need to be shown.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vejas
>>>
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