From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 04:51:42 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 00:51:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] LSAT help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <454BA2E0-9845-4A37-A252-E364B3B3E627@gmail.com> thank you all so much Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Syed, > > So it did not take me very long to find and email from the blind lawyers email list describing how to use an excel spread sheet for the logic games. I sent it to you privately off list, but I can post it publicly on the email list if anyone else would be interested in it. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 31, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> Logical reasoning, reading comp, and the writing parts on the LSAT are all fine. >> I am having issues with the logic games, and any book I get off bookshare talks about diagraming them out, which I have no idea how to do non visually. How do I handle the logic games section? >> Thanks, >> Syed >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com From bjduarte at asu.edu Thu Jun 1 05:11:57 2017 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 22:11:57 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes for the month of May Message-ID: <402BC9AF-733E-46B1-BC22-0779336451B2@asu.edu> Greetings NABS, Here are the NABS Notes for the month of May. Please take time to read this months NABS Notes as there are links to preregister for national convention, preregistration for the NABS business meeting, and lots of information regarding our state student divisions. If you are attending the national convention we ask that you preregister for everything you can as it will speed up the process and get things started on time. Thank you for all that you do in building a federation along side of the NABS board. We are also very excited to announce that Lindsey Fritz from Wisconsin made the highest bid in our first ever online silent auction at $250.00! Lindsey and three individuals of her choice will have some fun at Sea World during the national convention with the 4 tickets she has bid on! Congratulations Lindsey and thank you for your participation and support. If you have any questions or comments please reach out to Bryan at: bjduarte at asu.edu http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-month-may Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 12:43:32 2017 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 08:43:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software Message-ID: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> Hi Rilind, I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as I know don't with Apple products. I hope this helps. Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L ; board at nabslink.org; nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Hey NABS: We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! Happy summer, The NABS Outreach Committee Chris Nusbaum, President Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia ms2%40gmail .com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 From: Cricket Bidleman wrote: Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Hey NABS: We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! Happy summer, The NABS Outreach Committee Chris Nusbaum, President Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia ms2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem an%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 From: "Chris Nusbaum" ; board at nabslink.org; nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Hey NABS: We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! Happy summer, The NABS Outreach Committee Chris Nusbaum, President Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia ms2%4 0gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem an%40 gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 0gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 From: "Chris Nusbaum" wrote: Hi all, I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. Best, Mikayla _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma il.com -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 From: Vejas Vasiliauskas wrote: Hi all, I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! Respectfully yours, Ahbee ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm ail.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" wrote: Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending UCLA. I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. Cheers, Miso On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending UCLA. I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. Cheers, Miso On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: Taylor, Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Taylor Arndt Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending UCLA. I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. Cheers, Miso On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello, I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email address. Hope this helps. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Rilind, > > I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com > > If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as > I know don't with Apple products. > > I hope this helps. > > Sami > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 > Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software > > Hello. > I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some info. > A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. > What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program that would help? > Any help is appreciated: > Thanks: > Rilind. > > P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org > Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 > > Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save > money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) > 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) > 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) > 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) > 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) > 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) > 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) > 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) > 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) > 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) > 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) > 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) > 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) > 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) > 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) > 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) > 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) > 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) > 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) > 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 > From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and > save money! > Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Happy Memorial Day fellow students, > > > > This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. > Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you > through the process, and save you money! > > > > I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. > > > > Best, > > Kathryn Webster > > President | National Association of blind Students > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 > From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link > Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Link below! > > https://nfb.org/convention > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 > From: "Justin Williams" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National > Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum > via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; > nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > Hey NABS: > > > > We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting > start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more > than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look > forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family > reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to > be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly > special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this > milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of > convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight > on our May membership call! > > > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To > join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll > join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > > > Happy summer, > > > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > > > Chris Nusbaum, President > > Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise > expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you bak. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > ms2%40gmail > .com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 > From: Cricket Bidleman To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National > Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum > via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; > nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > Hey NABS: > > > > We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting > start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more > than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look > forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family > reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to > be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly > special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this > milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of > convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight > on our May membership call! > > > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To > join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll > join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > > > Happy summer, > > > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > > > Chris Nusbaum, President > > Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise > expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you bak. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > ms2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 > From: "Chris Nusbaum" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National > Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Justin: > > Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted > to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this > list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket > Bidleman via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And > remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the > convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; > nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > Hey NABS: > > > > We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an > exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, > summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also > means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at > our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National > Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. > This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th > anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome > events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek > at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! > > > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > > > Happy summer, > > > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > > > Chris Nusbaum, President > > Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise > expectations for blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia > ms2%4 > 0gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40 > gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 > 0gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 > From: "Chris Nusbaum" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure > Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Marvin: > > Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, > you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer > Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the > following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I > hope this helps. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin > via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Marvin Hunkin Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure > > Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from > http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro > laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account > till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing > because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school > does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their > students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got > any ideas, how to proceed. > > Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 > 0gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 > From: Mikayla Gephart To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services > Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all, > I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. > Best, > Mikayla > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 > From: Joshua Hendrickson To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services > Message-ID: > > ail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my > disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave > them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my > DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. > There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a > computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school > assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your > professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. > I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before > consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great > day. > > On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college > Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I > understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am > very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not > have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good > documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that > two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should > discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a > curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here > people?s thoughts. > Best, > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma > il.com > > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 > From: Vejas Vasiliauskas To: National Association of Blind Students mailing > list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services > Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed > > Hi Mikayla, > I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services > during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my > accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not > given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the > summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked > with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed > them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to > utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the > purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw > it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the > use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which > are too visual. > Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things > better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a > Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I > had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any > other future blind students. > Vejas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services > > Hi all, > I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different > college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot > on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an > Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I > would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of > training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation > of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just > noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at > say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before > involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a > question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? > thoughts. > Best, > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 > From: Ahbee Orton To: Lizzy via NABS-L Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 > From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 > From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: > > ail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 > From: Karl Martin Adam To: National Association of Blind Students mailing > list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services > Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed > > Hi Mikayla, > > I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, > there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell > them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a > disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you > needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if > you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount > of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing > about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, > but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have > that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to > protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) > from awkward questions from professors. > > Best, > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services > > Hi all, > I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different > college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on > their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an > Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I > would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of > training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation > of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just > noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at > say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before > involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a > question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? > thoughts. > Best, > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 > From: Taylor Arndt To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 > From: Ahbee Orton To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 > yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 > From: Miso Kwak To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: > > ail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > > On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the > details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and > they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the > materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 > yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 > gmail.com > > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 > From: Taylor Arndt To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > > On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the > details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and > they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the > materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 > yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 > gmail.com > > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 > From: Alexandra Alfonso To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: > > ail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Ahbee, > I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice > more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep > class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. > > On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > > On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it > is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the > details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and > they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the > materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it > is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record > of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 > yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 > gmail.com > > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 > 0gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 > From: "Ashley Bramlett" To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Taylor, > Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. > Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe > connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen > readers. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- > From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Taylor Arndt > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > > OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if > you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > > On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it > is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the > details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and > they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the > materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found > practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it > is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight > in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record > of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 > yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 > gmail.com > > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 > 0earthlink.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 > From: Taylor Arndt To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Online and NAvdA > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > > Taylor, > Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. > Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Taylor Arndt > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > > OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > > On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the > details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and > they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the > materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? > How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you > all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem > an%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 > yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 > gmail.com > > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 > 0earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 > %40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 > *************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborn > e97%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 14:41:09 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (amazing tech) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 10:41:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software In-Reply-To: References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots software and jaws. Thanks, Aaron Linson BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast Sent from my iPad > On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, > I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email address. Hope this helps. > > Precious > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Rilind, >> >> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >> >> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >> I know don't with Apple products. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Sami >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L > To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" > Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >> >> Hello. >> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some info. >> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program that would help? >> Any help is appreciated: >> Thanks: >> Rilind. >> >> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >> >> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >> > Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >> save money! >> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >> >> >> >> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. >> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you >> through the process, and save you money! >> >> >> >> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Kathryn Webster >> >> President | National Association of blind Students >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >> > Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Link below! >> >> https://nfb.org/convention >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >> From: "Justin Williams" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >> Justin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >> >> Hey NABS: >> >> >> >> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >> on our May membership call! >> >> >> >> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >> >> >> >> Happy summer, >> >> >> >> The NABS Outreach Committee >> >> >> >> Chris Nusbaum, President >> >> Maryland Association of Blind Students >> >> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >> >> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >> >> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >> >> >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you bak. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >> ms2%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >> From: Cricket Bidleman > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >> Justin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >> >> Hey NABS: >> >> >> >> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >> on our May membership call! >> >> >> >> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >> >> >> >> Happy summer, >> >> >> >> The NABS Outreach Committee >> >> >> >> Chris Nusbaum, President >> >> Maryland Association of Blind Students >> >> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >> >> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >> >> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >> >> >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you bak. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >> ms2%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >> From: "Chris Nusbaum" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Justin: >> >> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted >> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this >> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >> >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >> Bidleman via NABS-L >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Cricket Bidleman > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >> >> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And >> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the >> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >> Justin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >> Nusbaum via NABS-L >> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >> >> Hey NABS: >> >> >> >> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! >> >> >> >> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >> >> >> >> Happy summer, >> >> >> >> The NABS Outreach Committee >> >> >> >> Chris Nusbaum, President >> >> Maryland Association of Blind Students >> >> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >> >> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >> >> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >> >> >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >> ms2%4 >> 0gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40 >> gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >> 0gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >> From: "Chris Nusbaum" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Marvin: >> >> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, >> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I >> hope this helps. >> >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Marvin Hunkin > Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >> >> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account >> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing >> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school >> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got >> any ideas, how to proceed. >> >> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >> 0gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >> From: Mikayla Gephart > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Hi all, >> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. >> Best, >> Mikayla >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >> From: Joshua Hendrickson > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >> Message-ID: >> >> > ail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >> day. >> >> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi all, >> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I >> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am >> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not >> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that >> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should >> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >> people?s thoughts. >> Best, >> Mikayla >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >> list> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >> >> Hi Mikayla, >> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >> are too visual. >> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >> other future blind students. >> Vejas >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >> >> Hi all, >> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >> thoughts. >> Best, >> Mikayla >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >> tion%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >> From: Ahbee Orton > To: Lizzy via NABS-L > Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: >> >> > ail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >> From: Karl Martin Adam > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >> list> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >> >> Hi Mikayla, >> >> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >> from awkward questions from professors. >> >> Best, >> Karl >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >> >> Hi all, >> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >> thoughts. >> Best, >> Mikayla >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 14 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >> From: Taylor Arndt > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 15 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >> From: Ahbee Orton > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >> yahoo.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >> From: Miso Kwak > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: >> >> > ail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >> >> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >> UCLA. >> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >> >> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >> >> Cheers, >> Miso >> >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >> materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >> yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >> gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 17 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >> From: Taylor Arndt > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >> >> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >> UCLA. >> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >> >> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >> >> Cheers, >> Miso >> >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >> materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >> yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >> gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 18 >> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >> From: Alexandra Alfonso > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: >> >> > ail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >> >> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Ahbee, >> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >> >> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >> UCLA. >> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >> >> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >> >> Cheers, >> Miso >> >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >> is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >> materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >> it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >> does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >> of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >> yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >> gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >> 0gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 19 >> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Taylor, >> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe >> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen >> readers. >> >> Ashley >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Taylor Arndt >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> >> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act >> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also >> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some >> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, >> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give >> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if >> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for >> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or >> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid >> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I >> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took >> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >> again and got an 850. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >> >> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >> UCLA. >> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >> >> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >> >> Cheers, >> Miso >> >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >> is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >> materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >> practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >> obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >> it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >> in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >> does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >> of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >> yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >> gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >> 0earthlink.net >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 20 >> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >> From: Taylor Arndt > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Online and NAvdA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Taylor, >> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. >> >> Ashley >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Taylor Arndt >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >> >> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >> >> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >> UCLA. >> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >> >> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >> >> Cheers, >> Miso >> >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >> materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >> an%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >> yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >> gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >> 0earthlink.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >> %40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >> *************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborn >> e97%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com From jameyanne at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 14:58:14 2017 From: jameyanne at gmail.com (Jameyanne Fuller) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 10:58:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] LSAT help In-Reply-To: <454BA2E0-9845-4A37-A252-E364B3B3E627@gmail.com> References: <454BA2E0-9845-4A37-A252-E364B3B3E627@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006901d2dae7$7f6f8040$7e4e80c0$@gmail.com> Hi Syed, I had an accommodation for scrap paper with the logic games. I made diagrams with my perkins brailler on the scrap paper, like spatial tables and such. Basically I read the books on bookshare (highly recommend Princeton review) and adapted them to work for me. If you want to talk off list I'm happy to go into it more. Don't be afraid of the logic games section. They're the most fun part of the test! Jameyanne -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:52 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Syed Rizvi Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LSAT help thank you all so much Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Syed, > > So it did not take me very long to find and email from the blind lawyers email list describing how to use an excel spread sheet for the logic games. I sent it to you privately off list, but I can post it publicly on the email list if anyone else would be interested in it. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 31, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> Logical reasoning, reading comp, and the writing parts on the LSAT are all fine. >> I am having issues with the logic games, and any book I get off bookshare talks about diagraming them out, which I have no idea how to do non visually. How do I handle the logic games section? >> Thanks, >> Syed >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com From pulyperez1 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:27:50 2017 From: pulyperez1 at gmail.com (Precious Perez) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 11:27:50 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software In-Reply-To: <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> Message-ID: There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L wrote: > > Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots software and jaws. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email address. Hope this helps. >> >> Precious >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Rilind, >>> >>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>> >>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>> I know don't with Apple products. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Sami >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>> >>> Hello. >>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some info. >>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program that would help? >>> Any help is appreciated: >>> Thanks: >>> Rilind. >>> >>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>> >>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>> save money! >>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>> >>> >>> >>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. >>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you >>> through the process, and save you money! >>> >>> >>> >>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kathryn Webster >>> >>> President | National Association of blind Students >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Link below! >>> >>> https://nfb.org/convention >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>> From: "Justin Williams" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>> From: Cricket Bidleman >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Justin: >>> >>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted >>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this >>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And >>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the >>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%4 >>> 0gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Marvin: >>> >>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, >>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> >>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account >>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing >>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school >>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got >>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>> >>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> From: Mikayla Gephart >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>> day. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I >>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am >>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not >>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that >>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should >>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>> people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>> are too visual. >>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>> other future blind students. >>> Vejas >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>> tion%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 12 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 13 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>> From: Karl Martin Adam >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> >>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>> from awkward questions from professors. >>> >>> Best, >>> Karl >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 15 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 16 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>> From: Miso Kwak >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 17 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 18 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 19 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe >>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen >>> readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act >>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also >>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some >>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, >>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give >>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if >>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for >>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or >>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid >>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I >>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took >>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>> again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>> practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>> in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>> 0earthlink.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 20 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Online and NAvdA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> 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>>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>> *************************************** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborn >>> e97%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:41:53 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 10:41:53 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software In-Reply-To: References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Precious, My husband, who is a musician, looked into getting Dancing Dots, along with another program I cannot remember, as he writes music but wanted to proof his scores. The upshot, after numerous calls, and finally reaching someone at Dancing Dots, he was told that in the final analysis, you still would need sight to proof the final score produced by programs. Is this still true? Thanks. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:28 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Precious Perez Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L wrote: > > Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots software and jaws. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email address. Hope this helps. >> >> Precious >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Rilind, >>> >>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>> >>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>> I know don't with Apple products. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Sami >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>> >>> Hello. >>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some info. >>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program that would help? >>> Any help is appreciated: >>> Thanks: >>> Rilind. >>> >>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>> >>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>> save money! >>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>> >>> >>> >>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. >>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you >>> through the process, and save you money! >>> >>> >>> >>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kathryn Webster >>> >>> President | National Association of blind Students >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Link below! >>> >>> https://nfb.org/convention >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>> From: "Justin Williams" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>> From: Cricket Bidleman >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Justin: >>> >>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted >>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this >>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And >>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the >>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%4 >>> 0gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Marvin: >>> >>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, >>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> >>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account >>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing >>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school >>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got >>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>> >>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> From: Mikayla Gephart >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>> day. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I >>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am >>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not >>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that >>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should >>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>> people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>> are too visual. >>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>> other future blind students. >>> Vejas >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>> tion%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 12 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 13 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>> From: Karl Martin Adam >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> >>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>> from awkward questions from professors. >>> >>> Best, >>> Karl >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 15 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 16 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>> From: Miso Kwak >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 17 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 18 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 19 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe >>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen >>> readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act >>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also >>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some >>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, >>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give >>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if >>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for >>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or >>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid >>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I >>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took >>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>> again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>> practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>> in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>> 0earthlink.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 20 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Online and NAvdA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 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From pulyperez1 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 17:23:17 2017 From: pulyperez1 at gmail.com (Precious Perez) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:23:17 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software In-Reply-To: References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <532F2869-2491-4033-97F2-755600D95B97@gmail.com> Hello, This is true to an extent. Sometimes when writing the music with the software, things overlap visually, for example, bar lines might overlap each other, or words and notes. For final scores, sighted help is needed just to look them over formatting. For the most part, though, it is doable. I would recommend him having someone he can send his scores to when he is finished writing them who can just check for formatting, and it could be someone from the school or university he is getting a degree with, since it is part of accommodations. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, Precious, > > My husband, who is a musician, looked into getting Dancing Dots, along with > another program I cannot remember, as he writes music but wanted to proof > his scores. The upshot, after numerous calls, and finally reaching someone > at Dancing Dots, he was told that in the final analysis, you still would > need sight to proof the final score produced by programs. Is this still > true? > > Thanks. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:28 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Precious Perez > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software > > There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a > fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses > every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. > > Precious > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots > software and jaws. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L > wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one > piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used > for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It > can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on > it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into > this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email > address. Hope this helps. >>> >>> Precious >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rilind, >>>> >>>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest > that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled > that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind > musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization > founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. > His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing > music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him > very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but > I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>>> >>>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print > music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, > which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created > by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>>> I know don't with Apple products. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Sami >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >>> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >>> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>>> >>>> Hello. >>>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some > info. >>>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is > looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he > is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading > music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac > with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as > well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program > that would help? >>>> Any help is appreciated: >>>> Thanks: >>>> Rilind. >>>> >>>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, > mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also > message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>>> >>>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>>> save money! >>>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National > convention. >>>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide > you >>>> through the process, and save you money! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Kathryn Webster >>>> >>>> President | National Association of blind Students >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Link below! >>>> >>>> https://nfb.org/convention >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>>> From: "Justin Williams" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>>> From: Cricket Bidleman >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Justin: >>>> >>>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always > posted >>>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of > this >>>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > >>> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention > on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And >>>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the >>>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership > call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%4 >>>> 0gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Marvin: >>>> >>>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help > you, >>>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. > I >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin > Hunkin >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >>> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> >>>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark > account >>>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any > thing >>>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My > school >>>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any > one got >>>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>>> >>>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 7 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college > Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and > I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I > am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good > documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that > two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should > discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a > curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here > people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 8 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>>> day. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, > and I >>>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. > I am >>>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not >>>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed > that >>>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty > should >>>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>>> people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 9 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>>> are too visual. >>>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>>> other future blind students. >>>> Vejas >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>>> tion%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 10 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 11 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 12 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 13 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>>> From: Karl Martin Adam >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> >>>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>>> from awkward questions from professors. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Karl >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 14 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 15 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 16 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>>> From: Miso Kwak >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 17 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 18 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 19 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>>> reply-type=original >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe >>>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen >>>> readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep > act >>>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes > also >>>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond > some >>>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with > Kaplan, >>>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not > give >>>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may > try if >>>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and > for >>>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows > 10 or >>>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not > afraid >>>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, > I >>>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I > took >>>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>>> again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>> practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>> in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>>> 0earthlink.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 20 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Online and NAvdA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To 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unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 17:35:04 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 13:35:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software In-Reply-To: <532F2869-2491-4033-97F2-755600D95B97@gmail.com> References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> <532F2869-2491-4033-97F2-755600D95B97@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2dafd$69a8d8e0$3cfa8aa0$@gmail.com> This is such an interesting topic! I am very, very into creating music on the computer, and, although I don't write music on it, I do use a software called Vocaloid to create music. Unfortunately, I really can't describe what Vocaloid is without getting into a gigantic conversation (hahahahaha)! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:23 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Precious Perez Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software Hello, This is true to an extent. Sometimes when writing the music with the software, things overlap visually, for example, bar lines might overlap each other, or words and notes. For final scores, sighted help is needed just to look them over formatting. For the most part, though, it is doable. I would recommend him having someone he can send his scores to when he is finished writing them who can just check for formatting, and it could be someone from the school or university he is getting a degree with, since it is part of accommodations. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, Precious, > > My husband, who is a musician, looked into getting Dancing Dots, along with > another program I cannot remember, as he writes music but wanted to proof > his scores. The upshot, after numerous calls, and finally reaching someone > at Dancing Dots, he was told that in the final analysis, you still would > need sight to proof the final score produced by programs. Is this still > true? > > Thanks. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:28 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Precious Perez > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software > > There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a > fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses > every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. > > Precious > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots > software and jaws. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L > wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one > piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used > for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It > can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on > it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into > this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email > address. Hope this helps. >>> >>> Precious >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rilind, >>>> >>>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest > that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled > that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind > musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization > founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. > His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing > music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him > very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but > I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>>> >>>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print > music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, > which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created > by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>>> I know don't with Apple products. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Sami >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >>> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >>> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>>> >>>> Hello. >>>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some > info. >>>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is > looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he > is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading > music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac > with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as > well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program > that would help? >>>> Any help is appreciated: >>>> Thanks: >>>> Rilind. >>>> >>>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, > mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also > message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>>> >>>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>>> save money! >>>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National > convention. >>>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide > you >>>> through the process, and save you money! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Kathryn Webster >>>> >>>> President | National Association of blind Students >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Link below! >>>> >>>> https://nfb.org/convention >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>>> From: "Justin Williams" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>>> From: Cricket Bidleman >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Justin: >>>> >>>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always > posted >>>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of > this >>>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > >>> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention > on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And >>>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the >>>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership > call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%4 >>>> 0gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Marvin: >>>> >>>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help > you, >>>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. > I >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin > Hunkin >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >>> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> >>>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark > account >>>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any > thing >>>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My > school >>>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any > one got >>>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>>> >>>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 7 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college > Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and > I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I > am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good > documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that > two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should > discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a > curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here > people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 8 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>>> day. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, > and I >>>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. > I am >>>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not >>>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed > that >>>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty > should >>>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>>> people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 9 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>>> are too visual. >>>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>>> other future blind students. >>>> Vejas >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>>> tion%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 10 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 11 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 12 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 13 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>>> From: Karl Martin Adam >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> >>>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>>> from awkward questions from professors. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Karl >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 14 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 15 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 16 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>>> From: Miso Kwak >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 17 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 18 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 19 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>>> reply-type=original >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe >>>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen >>>> readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep > act >>>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes > also >>>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond > some >>>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with > Kaplan, >>>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not > give >>>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may > try if >>>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and > for >>>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows > 10 or >>>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not > afraid >>>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, > I >>>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I > took >>>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>>> again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>> practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>> in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>>> 0earthlink.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 20 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Online and NAvdA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To 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options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From sonshines59 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 17:40:22 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 11:40:22 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software In-Reply-To: <532F2869-2491-4033-97F2-755600D95B97@gmail.com> References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> <532F2869-2491-4033-97F2-755600D95B97@gmail.com> Message-ID: That's a real great idea, but what he decided is, why put all that money into programs when in the end, you need a sighted proofer anyway. So we never did get the software. Just like OCR, these programs are giving their "best guess" as to what has been transcribed, and none are perfect. The only way around it is if one is an optacon user and knows print music, then this could be totally done by a blind individual. Thanks very much. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:23 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Precious Perez Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software Hello, This is true to an extent. Sometimes when writing the music with the software, things overlap visually, for example, bar lines might overlap each other, or words and notes. For final scores, sighted help is needed just to look them over formatting. For the most part, though, it is doable. I would recommend him having someone he can send his scores to when he is finished writing them who can just check for formatting, and it could be someone from the school or university he is getting a degree with, since it is part of accommodations. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, Precious, > > My husband, who is a musician, looked into getting Dancing Dots, along with > another program I cannot remember, as he writes music but wanted to proof > his scores. The upshot, after numerous calls, and finally reaching someone > at Dancing Dots, he was told that in the final analysis, you still would > need sight to proof the final score produced by programs. Is this still > true? > > Thanks. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:28 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Precious Perez > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software > > There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a > fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses > every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. > > Precious > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots > software and jaws. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L > wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one > piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used > for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It > can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on > it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into > this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email > address. Hope this helps. >>> >>> Precious >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rilind, >>>> >>>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest > that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled > that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind > musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization > founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. > His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing > music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him > very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but > I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>>> >>>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print > music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, > which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created > by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>>> I know don't with Apple products. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Sami >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >>> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >>> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>>> >>>> Hello. >>>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some > info. >>>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is > looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he > is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading > music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac > with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as > well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program > that would help? >>>> Any help is appreciated: >>>> Thanks: >>>> Rilind. >>>> >>>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, > mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also > message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>>> >>>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>>> save money! >>>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National > convention. >>>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide > you >>>> through the process, and save you money! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Kathryn Webster >>>> >>>> President | National Association of blind Students >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Link below! >>>> >>>> https://nfb.org/convention >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>>> From: "Justin Williams" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>>> From: Cricket Bidleman >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Justin: >>>> >>>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always > posted >>>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of > this >>>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > >>> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention > on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And >>>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the >>>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership > call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%4 >>>> 0gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Marvin: >>>> >>>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help > you, >>>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. > I >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin > Hunkin >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >>> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> >>>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark > account >>>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any > thing >>>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My > school >>>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any > one got >>>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>>> >>>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 7 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college > Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and > I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I > am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good > documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that > two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should > discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a > curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here > people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 8 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>>> day. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, > and I >>>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. > I am >>>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not >>>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed > that >>>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty > should >>>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>>> people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 9 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>>> are too visual. >>>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>>> other future blind students. >>>> Vejas >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>>> tion%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 10 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 11 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 12 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 13 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>>> From: Karl Martin Adam >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> >>>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>>> from awkward questions from professors. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Karl >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 14 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 15 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 16 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>>> From: Miso Kwak >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 17 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 18 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 19 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>>> reply-type=original >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe >>>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen >>>> readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep > act >>>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes > also >>>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond > some >>>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with > Kaplan, >>>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not > give >>>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may > try if >>>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and > for >>>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows > 10 or >>>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not > afraid >>>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, > I >>>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I > took >>>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>>> again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>> practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>> in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>>> 0earthlink.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 20 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Online and NAvdA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability 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unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From dragoshi11 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 1 19:32:01 2017 From: dragoshi11 at hotmail.com (Rilind Dragoshi) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 19:32:01 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading And Writing Software Message-ID: Thanks everyone. I'm definitely appreciating the feedback here and I'm sure my friend will appreciate as well. Thanks: Rilind. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org Sent: June-01-17 2:24 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 128, Issue 3 Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to nabs-l at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: LSAT help (Jameyanne Fuller) 2. Re: Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software (Precious Perez) 3. Re: Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software (Judy Jones) 4. Re: Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software (Precious Perez) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 10:58:14 -0400 From: "Jameyanne Fuller" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LSAT help Message-ID: <006901d2dae7$7f6f8040$7e4e80c0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Syed, I had an accommodation for scrap paper with the logic games. I made diagrams with my perkins brailler on the scrap paper, like spatial tables and such. Basically I read the books on bookshare (highly recommend Princeton review) and adapted them to work for me. If you want to talk off list I'm happy to go into it more. Don't be afraid of the logic games section. They're the most fun part of the test! Jameyanne -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:52 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Syed Rizvi Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LSAT help thank you all so much Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Syed, > > So it did not take me very long to find and email from the blind lawyers email list describing how to use an excel spread sheet for the logic games. I sent it to you privately off list, but I can post it publicly on the email list if anyone else would be interested in it. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 31, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> Logical reasoning, reading comp, and the writing parts on the LSAT are all fine. >> I am having issues with the logic games, and any book I get off bookshare talks about diagraming them out, which I have no idea how to do non visually. How do I handle the logic games section? >> Thanks, >> Syed >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 11:27:50 -0500 From: Precious Perez To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L wrote: > > Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots software and jaws. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email address. Hope this helps. >> >> Precious >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Rilind, >>> >>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>> >>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>> I know don't with Apple products. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Sami >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>> >>> Hello. >>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some info. >>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program that would help? >>> Any help is appreciated: >>> Thanks: >>> Rilind. >>> >>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>> >>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>> save money! >>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>> >>> >>> >>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. >>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you >>> through the process, and save you money! >>> >>> >>> >>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kathryn Webster >>> >>> President | National Association of blind Students >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Link below! >>> >>> https://nfb.org/convention >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>> From: "Justin Williams" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>> From: Cricket Bidleman >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Justin: >>> >>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted >>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this >>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And >>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the >>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%4 >>> 0gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Marvin: >>> >>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, >>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> >>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account >>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing >>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school >>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got >>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>> >>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> From: Mikayla Gephart >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>> day. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I >>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am >>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not >>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that >>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should >>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>> people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>> are too visual. >>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>> other future blind students. >>> Vejas >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>> tion%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 12 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 13 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>> From: Karl Martin Adam >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> >>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>> from awkward questions from professors. >>> >>> Best, >>> Karl >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 15 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 16 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>> From: Miso Kwak >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 17 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 18 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 19 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe >>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen >>> readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act >>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also >>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some >>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, >>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give >>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if >>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for >>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or >>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid >>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I >>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took >>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>> again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>> practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>> in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>> 0earthlink.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 20 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Online and NAvdA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>> 0earthlink.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>> *************************************** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborn >>> e97%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 10:41:53 -0600 From: "Judy Jones" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, Precious, My husband, who is a musician, looked into getting Dancing Dots, along with another program I cannot remember, as he writes music but wanted to proof his scores. The upshot, after numerous calls, and finally reaching someone at Dancing Dots, he was told that in the final analysis, you still would need sight to proof the final score produced by programs. Is this still true? Thanks. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:28 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Precious Perez Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L wrote: > > Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots software and jaws. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email address. Hope this helps. >> >> Precious >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Rilind, >>> >>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>> >>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>> I know don't with Apple products. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Sami >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>> >>> Hello. >>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some info. >>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program that would help? >>> Any help is appreciated: >>> Thanks: >>> Rilind. >>> >>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>> >>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>> save money! >>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>> >>> >>> >>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. >>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you >>> through the process, and save you money! >>> >>> >>> >>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kathryn Webster >>> >>> President | National Association of blind Students >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Link below! >>> >>> https://nfb.org/convention >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>> From: "Justin Williams" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>> From: Cricket Bidleman >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more >>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look >>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to >>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly >>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of >>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight >>> on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To >>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll >>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%40gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Justin: >>> >>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted >>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this >>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And >>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the >>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>> Justin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>> >>> Hey NABS: >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! >>> >>> >>> >>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy summer, >>> >>> >>> >>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>> >>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>> >>> >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>> ms2%4 >>> 0gmail >>> .com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Marvin: >>> >>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, >>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>> >>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account >>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing >>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school >>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got >>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>> >>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> From: Mikayla Gephart >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>> day. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I >>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am >>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not >>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that >>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should >>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>> people?s thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>> are too visual. >>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>> other future blind students. >>> Vejas >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>> tion%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 12 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 13 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>> From: Karl Martin Adam >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>> list>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi Mikayla, >>> >>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>> from awkward questions from professors. >>> >>> Best, >>> Karl >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>> thoughts. >>> Best, >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 15 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>> From: Ahbee Orton >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 16 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>> From: Miso Kwak >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 17 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 18 >>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >> ail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 19 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe >>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen >>> readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act >>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also >>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some >>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, >>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give >>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if >>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for >>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or >>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid >>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I >>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took >>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>> again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >>> is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>> practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>> in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>> of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>> yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>> %40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>> 0earthlink.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 20 >>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>> From: Taylor Arndt >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Online and NAvdA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Taylor, >>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. >>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. >>> >>> Ashley >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>> >>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>> >>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>> UCLA. >>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>> >>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Miso >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>> PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>> you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>> is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>> not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>> others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>> an%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your 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------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:23:17 -0500 From: Precious Perez To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software Message-ID: <532F2869-2491-4033-97F2-755600D95B97 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, This is true to an extent. Sometimes when writing the music with the software, things overlap visually, for example, bar lines might overlap each other, or words and notes. For final scores, sighted help is needed just to look them over formatting. For the most part, though, it is doable. I would recommend him having someone he can send his scores to when he is finished writing them who can just check for formatting, and it could be someone from the school or university he is getting a degree with, since it is part of accommodations. Precious Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, Precious, > > My husband, who is a musician, looked into getting Dancing Dots, along with > another program I cannot remember, as he writes music but wanted to proof > his scores. The upshot, after numerous calls, and finally reaching someone > at Dancing Dots, he was told that in the final analysis, you still would > need sight to proof the final score produced by programs. Is this still > true? > > Thanks. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:28 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Precious Perez > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software > > There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for a > fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses > every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. > > Precious > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots > software and jaws. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L > wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one > piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used > for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. It > can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows on > it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look into > this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email > address. Hope this helps. >>> >>> Precious >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rilind, >>>> >>>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would suggest > that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled > that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind > musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an organization > founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years ago. > His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing > music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him > very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, but > I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>>> >>>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print > music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, > which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was created > by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>>> I know don't with Apple products. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Sami >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >>> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >>> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>>> >>>> Hello. >>>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some > info. >>>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is > looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he > is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading > music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac > with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as > well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program > that would help? >>>> Any help is appreciated: >>>> Thanks: >>>> Rilind. >>>> >>>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, > mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also > message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>>> >>>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>>> save money! >>>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National > convention. >>>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide > you >>>> through the process, and save you money! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Kathryn Webster >>>> >>>> President | National Association of blind Students >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Link below! >>>> >>>> https://nfb.org/convention >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>>> From: "Justin Williams" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>>> From: Cricket Bidleman >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting >>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means > more >>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can > look >>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the > Blind, to >>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is > particularly >>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day > of >>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it > tonight >>>> on our May membership call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To >>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll >>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Justin: >>>> >>>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always > posted >>>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of > this >>>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > >>> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention > on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. > And >>>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before > the >>>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>> >>>> Hey NABS: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership > call! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >>>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy summer, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>> >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>> >>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>> >>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>> ms2%4 >>>> 0gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Marvin: >>>> >>>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help > you, >>>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>>> following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. > I >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin > Hunkin >>>> via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >>> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>> >>>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro >>>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark > account >>>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any > thing >>>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My > school >>>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any > one got >>>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>>> >>>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 7 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college > Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and > I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I > am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good > documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that > two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should > discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a > curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here > people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 8 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>>> day. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, > and I >>>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. > I am >>>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do > not >>>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed > that >>>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty > should >>>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >>>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>>> people?s thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 9 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>>> are too visual. >>>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>>> other future blind students. >>>> Vejas >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>>> tion%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 10 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 11 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I > wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you > all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 12 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 13 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>>> From: Karl Martin Adam >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>> list>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>> >>>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>>> from awkward questions from professors. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Karl >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>> thoughts. >>>> Best, >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 14 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 15 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It > always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a > little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. > The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really > care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in > accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and > PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well > you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 16 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>>> From: Miso Kwak >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 17 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 18 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> >>> ail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice >>>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 19 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>>> reply-type=original >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe >>>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen >>>> readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course >>>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep > act >>>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes > also >>>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond > some >>>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with > Kaplan, >>>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not > give >>>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may > try if >>>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and > for >>>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows > 10 or >>>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not > afraid >>>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, > I >>>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I > took >>>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >>>> again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it >>>> is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>> practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>> in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>> of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>>> 0earthlink.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 20 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> >>>> Online and NAvdA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Taylor, >>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating > before. >>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? > Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to > screen readers. >>>> >>>> Ashley >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>> >>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course > because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act > and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also > office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some > people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational > rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, > Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give > you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try > if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for > screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or > Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a > Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid > to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I > would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took > the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it > again and got an 850. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>> >>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>> UCLA. >>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>> >>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Miso >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it > is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is > not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in > evil >>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does > not >>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, > it is >>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of > wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company > and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>> PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>> you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>> is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>> not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>> others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>> an%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>> %40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>> yahoo.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>> gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miso Kwak >>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability 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options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org ------------------------------ End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 128, Issue 3 ************************************** From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 23:18:56 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 16:18:56 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS Message-ID: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> Hi All, I just finished my freshman year of college. Thinking ahead to next year, I would like to avoid an issue that happened my first semester (not an issue second semester) regarding textbooks not available on Bookshare or Ibooks. For the books that were unavailable on these sites, I brought them and my DSS scanned them in PDF's. While I could read most of the text, there were some parts with too many mistakes to be able to deduce the words. I don't expect a "perfect" copy, but was wondering how these of you who have been successful have gotten the most accurate copy. I'm also wondering if you think it is appropriate that I ask my DSS to "proofread" the books to compare to the print-I do know that it would take lots of time, but at least a quick spell-check. Thanks, Vejas From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 2 00:32:36 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 20:32:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS In-Reply-To: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> References: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000a01d2db37$bc655f10$35301d30$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Vejas, The DSS office at my college got the scanned books on CD for me from scanning companies. Sometimes, there were mistakes. If there was mistake like "part Il" instead of "Part II," for example, i I could reason it out. The way I worked around mistakes was, I pasted the document into a Word document and edited it accordingly. I don't think it's appropriate to ask DSS to proofread the print book against the scanned ttexts. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 7:19 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS Hi All, I just finished my freshman year of college. Thinking ahead to next year, I would like to avoid an issue that happened my first semester (not an issue second semester) regarding textbooks not available on Bookshare or iBooks. For the books that were unavailable on these sites, I brought them and my DSS scanned them in PDF's. While I could read most of the text, there were some parts with too many mistakes to be able to deduce the words. I don't expect a "perfect" copy but was wondering how those of you who have been successful have gotten the most accurate copy. I'm also wondering if you think it is appropriate I ask my DSS to "proofread" the books to compare to the print, I do know it would take lots of time but at least a quick spell check. Thanks, Vejas _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Fri Jun 2 00:43:01 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 00:43:01 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS In-Reply-To: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> References: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Vejas, I work in accessibility services and make some of the accommodated textbooks for students. I will say, we aren't perfect. We try our best but sometimes things slide. If the book isn't readable, I'd definitely recommend taking it back in and asking for it to be cleaned a bit more (again, things slide), but to proofread every textbook we receive to make sure it's "perfect" is virtually impossible if a student wants books at a reasonable time! Hope this helps. Chelsea Peahl > On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > I just finished my freshman year of college. Thinking ahead to next year, I would like to avoid an issue that happened my first semester (not an issue second semester) regarding textbooks not available on Bookshare or Ibooks. For the books that were unavailable on these sites, I brought them and my DSS scanned them in PDF's. While I could read most of the text, there were some parts with too many mistakes to be able to deduce the words. I don't expect a "perfect" copy, but was wondering how these of you who have been successful have gotten the most accurate copy. I'm also wondering if you think it is appropriate that I ask my DSS to "proofread" the books to compare to the print-I do know that it would take lots of time, but at least a quick spell-check. > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 00:56:54 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 20:56:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS In-Reply-To: References: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <004a01d2db3b$22dc9300$6895b900$@gmail.com> I just deduced what the text was saying when the words were too jumbled by what was around them. I didn't have time to go back for a second scan. Not that you shouldn't, I just didn't. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of chelsea peahl via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:43 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: chelsea peahl Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS Hi Vejas, I work in accessibility services and make some of the accommodated textbooks for students. I will say, we aren't perfect. We try our best but sometimes things slide. If the book isn't readable, I'd definitely recommend taking it back in and asking for it to be cleaned a bit more (again, things slide), but to proofread every textbook we receive to make sure it's "perfect" is virtually impossible if a student wants books at a reasonable time! Hope this helps. Chelsea Peahl > On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > I just finished my freshman year of college. Thinking ahead to next year, I would like to avoid an issue that happened my first semester (not an issue second semester) regarding textbooks not available on Bookshare or Ibooks. For the books that were unavailable on these sites, I brought them and my DSS scanned them in PDF's. While I could read most of the text, there were some parts with too many mistakes to be able to deduce the words. I don't expect a "perfect" copy, but was wondering how these of you who have been successful have gotten the most accurate copy. I'm also wondering if you think it is appropriate that I ask my DSS to "proofread" the books to compare to the print-I do know that it would take lots of time, but at least a quick spell-check. > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail. com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From veegaspa at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 01:38:22 2017 From: veegaspa at gmail.com (Rock Chick17) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 21:38:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS In-Reply-To: <004a01d2db3b$22dc9300$6895b900$@gmail.com> References: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> <004a01d2db3b$22dc9300$6895b900$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <94179B18-0521-43AF-8190-DDBC4BF025B4@gmail.com> I haven't had that problem, but I don't think it is unreasonable to ask them to proofread it. You should be able to get a book and be 100% confident that you will be able to read everything, so I think asking them should not be an issue. Good luck! Best, Vee Gaspa Vee Gaspa New Jersey Association of Blind Students, President National Association of Blind Students, board member Intern, National Federation of the Blind Phone, 410-659-9314 ext-2525 > On Jun 1, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > I just deduced what the text was saying when the words were too jumbled by > what was around them. > I didn't have time to go back for a second scan. Not that you shouldn't, I > just didn't. > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of chelsea peahl > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:43 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: chelsea peahl > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by > DSS > > Hi Vejas, > I work in accessibility services and make some of the accommodated textbooks > for students. I will say, we aren't perfect. We try our best but sometimes > things slide. If the book isn't readable, I'd definitely recommend taking it > back in and asking for it to be cleaned a bit more (again, things slide), > but to proofread every textbook we receive to make sure it's "perfect" is > virtually impossible if a student wants books at a reasonable time! > Hope this helps. > Chelsea Peahl > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> I just finished my freshman year of college. Thinking ahead to next year, > I would like to avoid an issue that happened my first semester (not an issue > second semester) regarding textbooks not available on Bookshare or Ibooks. > For the books that were unavailable on these sites, I brought them and my > DSS scanned them in PDF's. While I could read most of the text, there were > some parts with too many mistakes to be able to deduce the words. I don't > expect a "perfect" copy, but was wondering how these of you who have been > successful have gotten the most accurate copy. I'm also wondering if you > think it is appropriate that I ask my DSS to "proofread" the books to > compare to the print-I do know that it would take lots of time, but at least > a quick spell-check. >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail. > com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veegaspa%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 13:49:06 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 09:49:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software In-Reply-To: <000001d2dafd$69a8d8e0$3cfa8aa0$@gmail.com> References: <59300bfd.0172370a.52f33.1a11@mx.google.com> <22C4BD86-87B3-4E78-8D93-63CFF3588C3F@gmail.com> <532F2869-2491-4033-97F2-755600D95B97@gmail.com> <000001d2dafd$69a8d8e0$3cfa8aa0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: What is vocaloid? On 6/1/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > This is such an interesting topic! I am very, very into creating music on > the computer, and, although I don't write music on it, I do use a software > called Vocaloid to create music. Unfortunately, I really can't describe > what > Vocaloid is without getting into a gigantic conversation (hahahahaha)! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious Perez > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:23 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Precious Perez > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software > > Hello, > This is true to an extent. Sometimes when writing the music with the > software, things overlap visually, for example, bar lines might overlap > each > other, or words and notes. For final scores, sighted help is needed just to > look them over formatting. For the most part, though, it is doable. I would > recommend him having someone he can send his scores to when he is finished > writing them who can just check for formatting, and it could be someone > from > the school or university he is getting a degree with, since it is part of > accommodations. > > Precious > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hello, Precious, >> >> My husband, who is a musician, looked into getting Dancing Dots, along > with >> another program I cannot remember, as he writes music but wanted to proof >> his scores. The upshot, after numerous calls, and finally reaching > someone >> at Dancing Dots, he was told that in the final analysis, you still would >> need sight to proof the final score produced by programs. Is this still >> true? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Judy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Precious > Perez >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:28 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Precious Perez >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >> >> There are multiple options. Dancing Dots is not the only one. I know for >> a >> fact that Sibelius 5 is accessible, because I use it for multiple courses >> every semester at Berklee College of Music with JAWS. >> >> Precious >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:41 AM, amazing tech via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Sibelius isn't accessible but the only real option is dancing dots >> software and jaws. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Aaron Linson >>> BS in Audio Production minor in communications from IU SouthEast >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Precious Perez via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I am majoring in Music Ed and Performance at Berklee, and there is one >> piece of Software we use regularly. It is called Sibelius, and it is used >> for both reading and writing. It is accessible with Jaws and Windows 7. >> It >> can also work on a mac computer with a virtual machine that has Windows >> on >> it. It is very fast and easy to use. If your friend would like to look > into >> this as well or has more questions, please feel free to pass on my email >> address. Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Precious >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rilind, >>>>> >>>>> I noticed no one responded to your question yesterday. I would >>>>> suggest >> that your friend use a program called Lime Allowed (not sure if I spelled >> that correctly,) which is actually a program exclusively for blind >> musicians. It was created by a company called Dancing Dots, an > organization >> founded by Bill McCann, a blind trumpet player about twenty-five years > ago. >> His mission in creating the company was to make both reading and writing >> music accessible to the blind. Being a musician myself, I also know him >> very well. I don't have the link to download the program (Lime Allowed, > but >> I suggest your friend contact Bill at: info at dancingdots.com >>>>> >>>>> If your friend has an embosser, he can also directly transcribe print >> music into Braille using his embosser and an application called GdField, >> which Lime uses to create Braille music and which I also believe was > created >> by Dancing Dots. Both of these programs work with Windows, and as far as >>>>> I know don't with Apple products. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Sami >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Rilind Dragoshi via NABS-L >>>> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" >>>> Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software >>>>> >>>>> Hello. >>>>> I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find > some >> info. >>>>> A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS >>>>> is >> looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making >> he >> is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading >> music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. >>>>> What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or > mac >> with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading > as >> well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the > program >> that would help? >>>>> Any help is appreciated: >>>>> Thanks: >>>>> Rilind. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, >> mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also >> message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>>> Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 >>>>> >>>>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save >>>>> money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>>> 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) >>>>> 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) >>>>> 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) >>>>> 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) >>>>> 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) >>>>> 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) >>>>> 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) >>>>> 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>>>> 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>>> 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) >>>>> 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) >>>>> 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) >>>>> 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>>> 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) >>>>> 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) >>>>> 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>>> 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) >>>>> 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) >>>>> 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 >>>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>>> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and >>>>> save money! >>>>> Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> >>>>> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National >> convention. >>>>> Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will >>>>> guide >> you >>>>> through the process, and save you money! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Kathryn Webster >>>>> >>>>> President | National Association of blind Students >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 2 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 >>>>> From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" >>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>>> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link >>>>> Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> >>>>> Link below! >>>>> >>>>> https://nfb.org/convention >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 3 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 >>>>> From: "Justin Williams" >>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>>> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>>> Justin >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >> Nusbaum >>>>> via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>>> >>>>> Hey NABS: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>>>> exciting >>>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means >> more >>>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can >> look >>>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the >> Blind, to >>>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is >> particularly >>>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every > day >> of >>>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it >> tonight >>>>> on our May membership call! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >> To >>>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >> you'll >>>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Happy summer, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>>> >>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>>> >>>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>>> >>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>>> >>>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>>> ms2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 4 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 >>>>> From: Cricket Bidleman >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>>> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> >>>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly >>>>> when. >> And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before >> the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>>> Justin >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >> Nusbaum >>>>> via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>>> >>>>> Hey NABS: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>>>> exciting >>>>> start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means >> more >>>>> than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can >> look >>>>> forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family >>>>> reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the >> Blind, to >>>>> be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is >> particularly >>>>> special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this >>>>> milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every > day >> of >>>>> convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it >> tonight >>>>> on our May membership call! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >> To >>>>> join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope >> you'll >>>>> join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Happy summer, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>>> >>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>>> >>>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>>> >>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>>> >>>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>>> ms2%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 5 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 >>>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>>> Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>>> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> >>>>> Justin: >>>>> >>>>> Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always >> posted >>>>> to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of >> this >>>>> list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket >>>>> Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >>>> Cc: Cricket Bidleman >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National >>>>> Convention >> on >>>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>>> >>>>> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly >>>>> when. >> And >>>>> remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before >> the >>>>> convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L > >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? >>>>> Justin >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris >>>>> Nusbaum via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; >>>>> nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on >>>>> Tonight's NABS Membership Call! >>>>> >>>>> Hey NABS: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an >>>>> exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, >>>>> summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also >>>>> means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at >>>>> our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National >>>>> Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. >>>>> This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th >>>>> anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome >>>>> events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek >>>>> at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership >> call! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. >>>>> To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We >>>>> hope >>>>> you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Happy summer, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The NABS Outreach Committee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Nusbaum, President >>>>> >>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>>> >>>>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students >>>>> >>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409 >>>>> >>>>> Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> expectations for blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>>>> you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.willia >>>>> ms2%4 >>>>> 0gmail >>>>> .com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40 >>>>> gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 6 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 >>>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" >>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>>> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> >>>>> Marvin: >>>>> >>>>> Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help >> you, >>>>> you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer >>>>> Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the >>>>> following link: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. >> I >>>>> hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin >> Hunkin >>>>> via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM >>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>>> Cc: Marvin Hunkin >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure >>>>> >>>>> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from >>>>> http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite > pro >>>>> laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark >> account >>>>> till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any >> thing >>>>> because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My >> school >>>>> does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their >>>>> students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any >> one got >>>>> any ideas, how to proceed. >>>>> >>>>> Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%4 >>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 7 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>>> From: Mikayla Gephart >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>>> Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, > and >> I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. > I >> am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do >> not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed >> that >> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty > should >> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a >> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >> people?s thoughts. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Mikayla >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 8 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 >>>>> From: Joshua Hendrickson >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>>> >>>>> I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my >>>>> disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave >>>>> them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my >>>>> DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. >>>>> There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a >>>>> computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school >>>>> assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your >>>>> professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. >>>>> I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before >>>>> consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great >>>>> day. >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college >>>>> Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their >>>>> sites, >> and I >>>>> understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. >> I am >>>>> very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do >> not >>>>> have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good >>>>> documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed >> that >>>>> two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty >> should >>>>> discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just >>>>> a >>>>> curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here >>>>> people?s thoughts. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Mikayla >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gma >>>>> il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>>> >>>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 9 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 >>>>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>>> list>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>>> Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>>> I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services >>>>> during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my >>>>> accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not >>>>> given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the >>>>> summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked >>>>> with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed >>>>> them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to >>>>> utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the >>>>> purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw >>>>> it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the >>>>> use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which >>>>> are too visual. >>>>> Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things >>>>> better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a >>>>> Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I >>>>> had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any >>>>> other future blind students. >>>>> Vejas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot >>>>> on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>>> thoughts. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Mikayla >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >>>>> tion%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 10 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:12:44 -0500 >>>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>>> To: Lizzy via NABS-L >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and > I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight > in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 11 >>>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 >>>>> From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>>> >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and > I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight > in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 12 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 >>>>> From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 13 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 >>>>> From: Karl Martin Adam >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing >>>>> list>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>>> Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mikayla, >>>>> >>>>> I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, >>>>> there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell >>>>> them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a >>>>> disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you >>>>> needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if >>>>> you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount >>>>> of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing >>>>> about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, >>>>> but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have >>>>> that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to >>>>> protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) >>>>> from awkward questions from professors. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Karl >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Date sent: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different >>>>> college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on >>>>> their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an >>>>> Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I >>>>> would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of >>>>> training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation >>>>> of your blindness and explain logically why you need an >>>>> accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just >>>>> noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at >>>>> say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before >>>>> involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a >>>>> question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?? >>>>> thoughts. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Mikayla >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >>>>> il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 14 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:31:31 -0400 >>>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>>> >>>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was > a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the > details. >> The course I took in the company they were the best company and they > really >> care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in >> accessible format. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 15 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 >>>>> From: Ahbee Orton >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>>> >>>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who > are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight > in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, > always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor > others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was > a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the > details. >> The course I took in the company they were the best company and they > really >> care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in >> accessible format. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>>> yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 16 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 >>>>> From: Miso Kwak >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>>> >>>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>>> UCLA. >>>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Miso >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who > are >>>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >> evil >>>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always >>>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >> not >>>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >> it is >>>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. >>>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was > a >>>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company >> and >>>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all >>>>> the >>>>> materials in accessible format. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>>> yahoo.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>>> gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 17 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 >>>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>>> >>>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their > course >> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep > act >> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes >> also >> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond >> some >> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with >> Kaplan, >> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not >> give >> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may >> try >> if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and > for >> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 > or >> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not > afraid >> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I >> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I >> took >> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >> again and got an 850. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>>> >>>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>>> UCLA. >>>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Miso >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who > are >>>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >> evil >>>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always >>>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >> not >>>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >> it is >>>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. >>>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was > a >>>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company >> and >>>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all >>>>> the >>>>> materials in accessible format. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>>> yahoo.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>>> gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 18 >>>>> Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 >>>>> From: Alexandra Alfonso >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it >>>>> twice >>>>> more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep >>>>> class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>>> >>>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>>> UCLA. >>>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Miso >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who > are >>>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil >>>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always >>>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not >>>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >> it >>>>> is >>>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. >>>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was > a >>>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company >> and >>>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all >>>>> the >>>>> materials in accessible format. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>>> it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>>> does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>>> yahoo.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>>> gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%4 >>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 19 >>>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 >>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" >>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >>>>> reply-type=original >>>>> >>>>> Taylor, >>>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating >> before. >>>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? >> Adobe >>>>> connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to >> screen >>>>> readers. >>>>> >>>>> Ashley >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> >>>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their > course >>>>> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test >>>>> prep >> act >>>>> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes >> also >>>>> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond >> some >>>>> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >>>>> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with >> Kaplan, >>>>> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not >> give >>>>> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may >> try if >>>>> you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and >> for >>>>> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows >> 10 or >>>>> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >>>>> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not >> afraid >>>>> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this >>>>> course, >> I >>>>> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I >> took >>>>> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took > it >>>>> again and got an 850. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>>> >>>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>>> UCLA. >>>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Miso >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who > are >>>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil >>>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always >>>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not >>>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >> it >>>>> is >>>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. >>>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was > a >>>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company >> and >>>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all >>>>> the >>>>> materials in accessible format. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>>> it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>>> does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40 >>>>> yahoo.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40 >>>>> gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Miso Kwak >>>>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >>>>> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>>>> (909) 660-1897 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99 >>>>> %40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%4 >>>>> 0earthlink.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 20 >>>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 >>>>> From: Taylor Arndt >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>>> >>>>> Online and NAvdA >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Taylor, >>>>> Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating >> before. >>>>> Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? >> Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to >> screen readers. >>>>> >>>>> Ashley >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>>> Cc: Taylor Arndt >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation >>>>> >>>>> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their > course >> because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep > act >> and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes >> also >> office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond >> some >> people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational >> rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with >> Kaplan, >> Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not >> give >> you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may >> try >> if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and > for >> screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 > or >> Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a >> Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not > afraid >> to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I >> would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I >> took >> the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it >> again and got an 850. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >>>>> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >>>>> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >>>>> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >>>>> >>>>> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >>>>> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >>>>> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >>>>> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >>>>> UCLA. >>>>> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >>>>> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >>>>> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >>>>> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >>>>> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >>>>> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Miso >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who > are >>>>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >> evil >>>>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always >>>>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >> not >>>>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >> it is >>>>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. >>>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was > a >>>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company >> and >>>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all >>>>> the >>>>> materials in accessible format. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were >>>>> absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get >>>>> a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>> in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It > does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>> of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>>> It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem >>>>> an%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list 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http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 20:33:38 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:33:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS Message-ID: <5931cbad.84289d0a.c14d2.c8e3@mx.google.com> My dss office got my books directly from the publishers. They got electronic copies of my textbooks and put them on a Usb thumb drive. When I registered for classes I would send the list of courses that I was taking the following semester to the assistive technology coordinator so he could get my books for me. From twilliams.jaguars at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 00:42:54 2017 From: twilliams.jaguars at gmail.com (Tamika Williams) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 19:42:54 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking room mate for national convention Message-ID: Dear federationist: A member of my chapter located in Mobile, AL is seeking a male room mate for the national convention. His name is Mac David, he is around 30 years of age, and he is a guide dog owner and possibly will be bringing him along. If you are interested please email him off list by June 9, 2017 at chessnutmac at hotmail.com to arrange further details. Please feel free to circulate to anyone who is seeking room mates as well. Thanks, Tamika Williams From bjduarte at asu.edu Sat Jun 3 03:35:14 2017 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 20:35:14 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Announcement for NFB students References: Message-ID: The National Federation of the Blind of Washington is pleased to announce that we are accepting applications for our 2017 Scholarship Program. We will award 2 scholarships totaling $5,000 to 2 outstanding blind students in our state. The scholarships will be awarded at the banquet of our state National Federation of the Blind convention, which will be held November 3-5 at the Hotel RL, located at 2300 East Evergreen Dr. SW, Olympia, WA 98502. All applicants must be: * Legally blind in both eyes * Residents of the state of Washington * Pursuing a full-time undergraduate or graduate course of study or a part-time student who also works full-time * Available to participate in the entire 2017 NFB of Washington state convention In addition to a scholarship, each winner will receive assistance to attend the 2017 NFB of Washington annual convention, providing an excellent opportunity for networking with active blind persons in many different professions and occupations. The scholarships are awarded at the banquet on Saturday night of the convention. Attendance at the convention is mandatory. Each scholarship application must include: * Completed scholarship application form (attached) * An essay describing the applicant’s abilities, academic achievements, community leadership, future goals and philosophy of blindness * High school and/or up-to-date college transcripts * 2 letters of recommendation All applicants must also contact Cindy Bennett, one of this year’s Scholarship Committee co-chairs, for a telephone interview. Cindy can be reached at clb5590 at gmail.com or (828) 989-5383. All completed scholarship packets must be received by Friday, September 22, 2017. APPLICATION PACKETS RECEIVED AFTER SEPTEMBER 22 WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED. INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS WILL BE DISQUALIFIED. Send completed scholarship application packets to: Cindy Bennett NFB of Washington Scholarship co-chair Clb5590 at gmail.com Or mail to: National Federation of the Blind of Washington PO Box 2516 Seattle, WA 98111 If you have questions please contact Cindy Bennett. Please feel free to make additional copies of this letter and the application form, and distribute them to any interested blind students. Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From jfranks at nfbtx.org Sat Jun 3 04:30:39 2017 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 23:30:39 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] The NFB of Texas Scholarship Program is live!!! Message-ID: Fellow students, Great news!!! the National Federation of the Blind of Texas Scholarship Program has gone live! So, if you are interested in winning free money and I know you are, I highly encourage you to apply. We are once again awarding 5 scholarships to students that are attending College in Texas in the fall. The Application link for the Scholarship program is below: https://www.nfbtx.org/scholarships.php Warm regards and good luck! Jonathan Franks BSW Board Member National Federation of the Blind of Texas Treasurer Texas Association of Blind Students Graduate Student MSW Program Texas State University -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sat Jun 3 05:28:35 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 01:28:35 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS In-Reply-To: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> References: <5930a100.98d6620a.17262.25b0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6D58322D60A44A2A9AA93C30EF2A2755@OwnerPC> Vejas, I had scanned copies for the garbled mistakes. I'd rather have a reader. Have you asked your state vr agency to pay for a reader? I think readers can provide so much more than text files although you then have to schedule time to read with them. They can describe the charts and pictures, skip text, tell you what are the bold words which means they are vocabulary words, and go to certain sections. I think your dss should try to procure the text from the publisher. A text file from the publisher would eliminate the need to scan and thus have errors. Does your school do that? Most schools will contact the publisher for the text if you provide a receit showing you purchased the book. If the school only can scan texts, then by all means they need to be readable. If the text is terrible, I'd go back to them and explain what you found. Ask them to see if they can correct the errors. I hope they do that or rescan it with better quality. You cannot use a jumbled up text after all. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 7:18 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: [nabs-l] Question for Anyone Who Gets Their Books Scanned by DSS Hi All, I just finished my freshman year of college. Thinking ahead to next year, I would like to avoid an issue that happened my first semester (not an issue second semester) regarding textbooks not available on Bookshare or Ibooks. For the books that were unavailable on these sites, I brought them and my DSS scanned them in PDF's. While I could read most of the text, there were some parts with too many mistakes to be able to deduce the words. I don't expect a "perfect" copy, but was wondering how these of you who have been successful have gotten the most accurate copy. I'm also wondering if you think it is appropriate that I ask my DSS to "proofread" the books to compare to the print-I do know that it would take lots of time, but at least a quick spell-check. Thanks, Vejas _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From knownoflove at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 11:34:30 2017 From: knownoflove at gmail.com (Miranda B.) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 07:34:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Human Biology course assignments using Mindtap, and JAWS or NVDA? Message-ID: <001401d2dc5d$5dfda960$19f8fc20$@gmail.com> Hi everyone, I am planning to enroll in a human biology course through my university, and Mindtap is used for some of the course assignments. Has anyone taken a human biology course using Mindtap with JAWS or NVDA? If so, what was your experience? Any positives or areas of concern would be appreciated. Looking at the course schedule, I have alternative assignments in mind, and I'll be reaching out to the DSS office shortly. However, I wanted to exhaust all resources in advance, before requesting alternative assignments. Thanks for your time and assistance, and have a wonderful weekend! Best wishes, Miranda From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 14:42:40 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2017 10:42:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me Message-ID: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> Dear Students, I wanted to give you an update on what I will be doing this Summer. Last Friday I went to the Lighthouse of Central Florida (Lcf) for an assessment. It was recommended that I take the Independent Living Skills and Access Technology courses. In July my family and I will be going on a cruise for the first time. It is my goal to practice as much independence as possible while we are on this trip. From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 14:54:47 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 07:54:47 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me In-Reply-To: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> References: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Roanna, That is so exciting. Best of luck on all your endeavors. Keep us posted!! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2017, at 07:42, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Students, > > I wanted to give you an update on what I will be doing this Summer. Last Friday I went to the Lighthouse of Central Florida (Lcf) for an assessment. It was recommended that I take the Independent Living Skills and Access Technology courses. In July my family and I will be going on a cruise for the first time. It is my goal to practice as much independence as possible while we are on this trip. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 17:31:26 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 11:31:26 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me In-Reply-To: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> References: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Very good. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 8:43 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me Dear Students, I wanted to give you an update on what I will be doing this Summer. Last Friday I went to the Lighthouse of Central Florida (Lcf) for an assessment. It was recommended that I take the Independent Living Skills and Access Technology courses. In July my family and I will be going on a cruise for the first time. It is my goal to practice as much independence as possible while we are on this trip. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:33:04 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 15:33:04 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Paid LSAT Tutoring Message-ID: Dear All, I am willing to pay someone to teach me how to use excel to solve LSAT Logic Games. Thank you, Syed From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:40:27 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 16:40:27 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Paid LSAT Tutoring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Syed, Have you checked out the Blind Law list and our Lawyers division? Somebody there may be able to help. Good luck! Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear All, > > I am willing to pay someone to teach me how to use excel to solve LSAT > Logic Games. > > Thank you, > > Syed > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:43:11 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 16:43:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Paid LSAT Tutoring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <919D9E67-0BC4-449B-A823-8C71816B0535@gmail.com> yes chris, i sent the same email to that list as well Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey Syed, Have you checked out the Blind Law list and our Lawyers division? Somebody there may be able to help. Good luck! > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> I am willing to pay someone to teach me how to use excel to solve LSAT >> Logic Games. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Syed >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 3 23:43:06 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 19:43:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me In-Reply-To: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> References: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000001d2dcc3$274173a0$75c45ae0$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Rowana, Congratulations, and please keep us posted on your journey to independence! Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:43 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me Dear Students, I wanted to give you an update on what I will be doing this Summer. Last Friday I went to the Lighthouse of Central Florida (Lcf) for an assessment. It was recommended that I take the Independent Living Skills and Access Technology courses. In July my family and I will be going on a cruise for the first time. It is my goal to practice as much independence as possible while we are on this trip. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Sun Jun 4 22:49:49 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 18:49:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me In-Reply-To: <000001d2dcc3$274173a0$75c45ae0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <5932caec.6545240a.45a6f.ca32@mx.google.com> <000001d2dcc3$274173a0$75c45ae0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Sounds like a great summer. On 6/3/17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Rowana, > > Congratulations, and please keep us posted on your journey to independence! > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:43 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: roanna bacchus > Subject: [nabs-l] An Update on me > > Dear Students, > > I wanted to give you an update on what I will be doing this > Summer. Last Friday I went to the Lighthouse of Central Florida > (Lcf) for an assessment. It was recommended that I take the > Independent Living Skills and Access Technology courses. In July > my family and I will be going on a cruise for the first time. It > is my goal to practice as much independence as possible while we > are on this trip. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From ALewis at nfb.org Mon Jun 5 13:48:43 2017 From: ALewis at nfb.org (Lewis, Anil) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 13:48:43 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: WID Requests Disability Leaders as Ambassadors for National Urban League Annual Conference (July 26-29 in St. Louis) for Conference Accessibility Initiative with JPMorgan Chase In-Reply-To: <83801784-4CCD-4851-857D-AF26E0151D04@mac.com> References: <83801784-4CCD-4851-857D-AF26E0151D04@mac.com> Message-ID: The World Institute on Disability and JPMorgan Chase are recruiting Disability Ambassadors for National Urban League’s annual conference, July 26-29 in St. Louis, MO. Disability Ambassadors will receive complimentary registration, domestic travel, hotel accommodations, and disability accommodations. Applicants should have disability inclusion experience and interest in issues of civil rights.
 Fabulous opportunity to raise disability awareness through an intersectional civil rights and economic empowerment lens. Are you interested in attending national conferences for free and giving a voice and a face to disability issues? If so, apply to become a Disability Ambassador: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/3220834/Scholarship-Application-2017 Deadline is June 16, 2017; 4 pm PT. 2016 marked the launch of the WID-JPMorgan Chase & Co. Conference Accessibility Initiative. In 2017, this exciting pioneering work continues. For this effort, WID, in partnership with JPMorgan Chase, is actively striving to make community development and policy conferences more accessible to, and inclusive of, people with disabilities. Across America, convenings of civil rights and community development organizations help to set the economic opportunity agenda. Unless the conferences fully integrate disability access issues into their content–and people with disabilities are present–the needs and perspectives of the disability community will be largely left out of the discussion. For more information, check out: https://wid.org/consulting/conference-accessibility/ in commUNITY, Tari Tari Hartman Squire, CEO EIN SOF Communications, Inc. Disability-Inclusive Diversity & Public Policy: "We Mean Business - 25/7" Diversity is a Business Imperative - Inclusion is a Choice 11601 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 500 Los Angeles, CA 90025 310-473-5954 - work 310-650-0595 - mobile Tarish at mac.com Tari at EINSOFcommunications.com EINSOFcommunications.com Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Mon Jun 5 16:27:56 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 16:27:56 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS mentoring program closes June 15! Act now! Message-ID: Students! We are now only a month away from the start of our National Convention! As exciting as this time can be, I also know first hand how nerve-wracking going into convention can be! We are so excited to have our mentoring program back! If you are new to our movement, want to get to know more of what our organization offers, want to meet great friends, or are just generally curious about what having a mentor can do for you, I highly recommend applying! If you have been in the federation for a while and are interested in taking a student under your wing to show them all of the greatness that the NFB has to offer, apply to be a mentor! We will work to the best of our ability to pair mentors and mentees up to suit their individual needs, but because this will take some time to do, applications will close on June 15, which is in 10 short days! If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me, Chelsea Peahl, at chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com, or Cody Beardslee at cody.beardslee at gmail.com! This link will take you to the mentee application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN9dDQ0ZgdNKdMxodPkf1sfpeJc9Fv9nQjbCsGnqmau34iXw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zcXyDI33kaoBbzSU13MY-3wbwWfVeB4Ebb88z6xZJMBa9DCKO0RC8W9PRAsqHqlnLdY=w1200-h630-p] 2017 NABS MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentee Application This link will take you to the mentor application! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPMEotBF9M94NcPoqJka7o7_WSwdJqVQUUmyDj6eXE-OaLzw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/6W0oDREKs7pQudQac9oCPLMHsXanEPtoRe8aXGl2HGAMa3FjQMTTgrWuHmcA86kI5K4=w1200-h630-p] NABS 2017 MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentor Application Chelsea Peahl NABS Mentoring program 2017 From redwing731 at gmail.com Mon Jun 5 16:47:03 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:47:03 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [acb-chat] The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress - Rewire References: <3DC8FB131394A6448784300CCD050EF501C2547B7B@EXHHINMBX09.mh.org> Message-ID: <2401ADCD-4328-4C6D-92DD-0CACB8F8D33C@gmail.com> Hi all! I recieved this and knew that I needed to pass this on. The message below effects everyone with a disability. Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Demaya, Diego via acb-chat" > Date: June 5, 2017 at 08:56:58 PDT > To: "'General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list.'" , "acbt at groups.io" , "hcb-l at yahoogroups.com" > Cc: "Demaya, Diego" > Subject: [acb-chat] The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress - Rewire > Reply-To: "General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list." > > The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress > May 30, 2017, 9:47am > Robyn Powell > > The House Judiciary Committee is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017. > > Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now. > Shutterstock > On July 26, 1990, George H.W. Bush signed the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) into law, proclaiming, “Let the shameful wall of exclusion finally come tumbling down!” Although I was only 8 years old, I still remember its passage and the increased accessibility that followed. > > The ADA has both literally and figuratively opened countless doors for people like me, by requiring entities that are open to the public—such as restaurants, movie theaters, hospitals, hotels, and museums—be fully accessible to people with disabilities. The ADA also requires employers, as well as public and private entities, to provide reasonable accommodations to people with disabilities and prohibits discrimination based on disability. > > Of course, passage of the ADA did not make ramps and elevators magically appear; nor did it immediately halt discrimination against people with disabilities. Progress takes time, which, as a wheelchair user, I have witnessed firsthand. Indeed, for several years after the law’s passage, my parents or I would always have to call places in advance to make sure that they were wheelchair accessible. For years, the answer was “no.” But times have changed, and now I no longer feel I need to take these extra steps before leaving my home. Nearly 27 years after the passage of the ADA, I now expect that all businesses will be accessible. And that is liberating. > > While we surely have much further to go, the ADA has unequivocally led to much greater inclusion and accessibility and far less discrimination. Now, however, Congress is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017 (HR 620), sponsored by Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX). > > Appreciate our work? > > Rewire is a non-profit independent media publication. Your tax-deductible contribution helps support our research, reporting, and analysis. > > DONATE NOW > > Currently, if a person with a disability encounters an accessibility barrier at a business, they have two options: They can file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), which will investigate and decide if a violation has occurred. DOJ may enter into mediation with the person and the business, which is a low-cost approach to resolve ADA violations fairly quickly. DOJ may also sue the business on the person’s behalf. Alternatively, people with disabilities may file a lawsuit in court, bypassing DOJ altogether. The cornerstone of current enforcement options is that the violation can often be resolved swiftly. > > If the ADA Education and Reform Act is passed, however, a person with a disability would be required to give a written notice to a business owner who has barriers to access. The business owner would then have 60 days to even acknowledge that there is a problem—and then another 120 days to make substantial progress toward correcting the violation. In other words, people with disabilities would be forced to wait 180 days to enforce their civil rights. > > The ADA Education and Reform Act is premised on trying to curb “drive-by” ADA lawsuits: that is, frivolous lawsuits brought by attorneys alleging ADA violations. Surely, serial litigators, attorneys who simply bring lawsuits to line their pockets, must be stopped. However, these bills are not the solution. > > To be fair, I vehemently oppose frivolous ADA lawsuits, where people seek to use the ADA for their own monetary gain. I cherish this law and hate hearing that some misuse it. However, it’s important to note that they are not as prevalent as some believe. An analysis of ADA lawsuits in 2016 identified just 12 individuals and one organization that have filed more than 100 lawsuits each. But frivolous lawsuits are not an ADA issue; they are a state and court problem. Indeed, ethics rules bar attorneys from bringing frivolous lawsuits. Rather than go after people with disabilities, attention should be focused on stopping these few bad attorneys. > > Notably, passage of the ADA and ADA Amendments Act involved the disability community and bipartisan lawmakers working together with the business community. These “notification bills,” however, do not. Rather, they are the result of business owners and their lobbyists. > > The disability community is not interested in more lawsuits; we simply want accessibility. There is no such thing as the “ADA police.” Enforcement depends on people with disabilities who know their rights to challenge violations. Filing lawsuits is timely and expensive. Finding an attorney that is knowledgeable about the ADA is very challenging. I say this because I believe it is fairly safe to assume that there are far more ADA violations occurring than we will ever hear of. As a disabled woman, I encounter violations daily. > > Nevertheless, there’s a prevailing belief that ADA regulations are overly technical and most alleged violations are “minor.” The regulations concerning accessible parking spots are frequently used to demonstrate how ADA regulations are too specific. What opponents don’t understand is that the width of parking spaces matter for people with disabilities who drive, such as myself. I drive a wheelchair–accessible van. If someone parks too close, I am literally stuck because no one besides me can drive my van. This has happened to me more times than I count, leaving me stranded outside for hours, until the person returns to their car. > > Throughout the years, based on a belief that the ADA is being abused and has become a money-maker, Congress has introduced a number of “notification bills.” These bills are problematic and have been strongly opposed by the disability community. > > It is also important to dispel the myth that ADA lawsuits can be profitable for plaintiffs; that is plain wrong. When the ADA was being drafted, as a compromise between the business community and the disability community, the disability community gave up the option to obtain damages for a business’s failure to comply with the law by allowing only injunctive relief—meaning the business owner has to change their behavior—and attorneys’ fees. > > Settlements or court orders that involve money damages for accessibility violations are based on state laws in a handful of states, not the ADA. Therefore, adding a notice requirement before people with disabilities can enforce their rights will do nothing to prevent businesses from being subjected to money damages. Moreover, if the accessibility violations in question are truly minor, as the proponents of these bills claim, it would not be difficult for businesses to fix the problem and resolve the issue quickly, with minimal attorneys’ fees. Hence, the issue is not an ADA one. > > In addition, it’s important to recognize that the ADA includes several provisions that protect businesses from unreasonable requirements. For example, the ADA does not require any action that would cause an “undue burden” or that is “not readily achievable,” which is defined as “easily accomplished and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense.” > > Adding a notification requirement won’t make serial lawsuits go away. Instead, it simply sends the message to business owners that they don’t have to worry about complying with the ADA until they receive a letter notifying them that they are discriminating against people with disabilities. In other words, instead of complying, they can just “wait and see” if they are caught. > > The imposition of a months-long “waiting period,” during which a business may continue to violate the law and deny access to people with disabilities once it has received a notice that it is violating the ADA, is simply not reasonable. > > In short, the premise of bills like the ADA Education and Reform Act is that businesses should not be responsible for knowing their obligations to comply with a law that has been in effect for nearly three decades, but people with disabilities should instead be responsible not only for knowing the accessibility requirements of that law, but also for determining when a business is not in compliance and for knowing the specific requirements of the notice that they must provide. > > Establishing and running a business involves compliance with numerous laws, including tax laws, property laws, health and safety laws, environmental laws, civil rights laws, and many others. Compliance with these legal obligations is part of the cost of doing business. > > Business owners, and society as a whole, have had nearly 27 years to become aware of the ADA. Indeed, I would guess that every business owner knows at least one person with a disability and is at least vaguely aware that the ADA exists. Moreover, there are plenty of resources that provide information on ADA requirements to business owners. Indeed, the DOJ offers free technical assistance as well as several publicly available publications. In addition, there are ADA technical assistance centers across the country that offer information, guidance, and training on how to implement the ADA. There is simply no excuse for noncompliance at this point. > > The bill is currently in the U.S. House Judiciary Committee; it has 18 co-sponsors. Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now. With the stroke of a pen, much that the disability community has fought hard for could be undone. What civil rights law will be on the chopping block next? > From zdreicer at gmail.com Mon Jun 5 19:24:03 2017 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 21:24:03 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [BlindMath] [acb-chat] The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress - Rewire References: <3DFF7404-F59A-4FE3-AA15-210E926D27BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: FYI…. I deleted all the unnecessary address info so you go to the content immediately. Sent from my Macbook Pro 13 > Begin forwarded message: >>>> The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress >>>> May 30, 2017, 9:47am >>>> Robyn Powell >>>> >>>> The House Judiciary Committee is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017. >>>> >>>> Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now. >>>> Shutterstock >>>> On July 26, 1990, George H.W. Bush signed the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) into law, proclaiming, “Let the shameful wall of exclusion finally come tumbling down!” Although I was only 8 years old, I still remember its passage and the increased accessibility that followed. >>>> >>>> The ADA has both literally and figuratively opened countless doors for people like me, by requiring entities that are open to the public—such as restaurants, movie theaters, hospitals, hotels, and museums—be fully accessible to people with disabilities. The ADA also requires employers, as well as public and private entities, to provide reasonable accommodations to people with disabilities and prohibits discrimination based on disability. >>>> >>>> Of course, passage of the ADA did not make ramps and elevators magically appear; nor did it immediately halt discrimination against people with disabilities. Progress takes time, which, as a wheelchair user, I have witnessed firsthand. Indeed, for several years after the law’s passage, my parents or I would always have to call places in advance to make sure that they were wheelchair accessible. For years, the answer was “no.” But times have changed, and now I no longer feel I need to take these extra steps before leaving my home. Nearly 27 years after the passage of the ADA, I now expect that all businesses will be accessible. And that is liberating. >>>> >>>> While we surely have much further to go, the ADA has unequivocally led to much greater inclusion and accessibility and far less discrimination. Now, however, Congress is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017 (HR 620), sponsored by Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX). >>>> >>>> Appreciate our work? >>>> >>>> Rewire is a non-profit independent media publication. Your tax-deductible contribution helps support our research, reporting, and analysis. >>>> >>>> DONATE NOW >>>> >>>> Currently, if a person with a disability encounters an accessibility barrier at a business, they have two options: They can file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), which will investigate and decide if a violation has occurred. DOJ may enter into mediation with the person and the business, which is a low-cost approach to resolve ADA violations fairly quickly. DOJ may also sue the business on the person’s behalf. Alternatively, people with disabilities may file a lawsuit in court, bypassing DOJ altogether. The cornerstone of current enforcement options is that the violation can often be resolved swiftly. >>>> >>>> If the ADA Education and Reform Act is passed, however, a person with a disability would be required to give a written notice to a business owner who has barriers to access. The business owner would then have 60 days to even acknowledge that there is a problem—and then another 120 days to make substantial progress toward correcting the violation. In other words, people with disabilities would be forced to wait 180 days to enforce their civil rights. >>>> >>>> The ADA Education and Reform Act is premised on trying to curb “drive-by” ADA lawsuits: that is, frivolous lawsuits brought by attorneys alleging ADA violations. Surely, serial litigators, attorneys who simply bring lawsuits to line their pockets, must be stopped. However, these bills are not the solution. >>>> >>>> To be fair, I vehemently oppose frivolous ADA lawsuits, where people seek to use the ADA for their own monetary gain. I cherish this law and hate hearing that some misuse it. However, it’s important to note that they are not as prevalent as some believe. An analysis of ADA lawsuits in 2016 identified just 12 individuals and one organization that have filed more than 100 lawsuits each. But frivolous lawsuits are not an ADA issue; they are a state and court problem. Indeed, ethics rules bar attorneys from bringing frivolous lawsuits. Rather than go after people with disabilities, attention should be focused on stopping these few bad attorneys. >>>> >>>> Notably, passage of the ADA and ADA Amendments Act involved the disability community and bipartisan lawmakers working together with the business community. These “notification bills,” however, do not. Rather, they are the result of business owners and their lobbyists. >>>> >>>> The disability community is not interested in more lawsuits; we simply want accessibility. There is no such thing as the “ADA police.” Enforcement depends on people with disabilities who know their rights to challenge violations. Filing lawsuits is timely and expensive. Finding an attorney that is knowledgeable about the ADA is very challenging. I say this because I believe it is fairly safe to assume that there are far more ADA violations occurring than we will ever hear of. As a disabled woman, I encounter violations daily. >>>> >>>> Nevertheless, there’s a prevailing belief that ADA regulations are overly technical and most alleged violations are “minor.” The regulations concerning accessible parking spots are frequently used to demonstrate how ADA regulations are too specific. What opponents don’t understand is that the width of parking spaces matter for people with disabilities who drive, such as myself. I drive a wheelchair–accessible van. If someone parks too close, I am literally stuck because no one besides me can drive my van. This has happened to me more times than I count, leaving me stranded outside for hours, until the person returns to their car. >>>> >>>> Throughout the years, based on a belief that the ADA is being abused and has become a money-maker, Congress has introduced a number of “notification bills.” These bills are problematic and have been strongly opposed by the disability community. >>>> >>>> It is also important to dispel the myth that ADA lawsuits can be profitable for plaintiffs; that is plain wrong. When the ADA was being drafted, as a compromise between the business community and the disability community, the disability community gave up the option to obtain damages for a business’s failure to comply with the law by allowing only injunctive relief—meaning the business owner has to change their behavior—and attorneys’ fees. >>>> >>>> Settlements or court orders that involve money damages for accessibility violations are based on state laws in a handful of states, not the ADA. Therefore, adding a notice requirement before people with disabilities can enforce their rights will do nothing to prevent businesses from being subjected to money damages. Moreover, if the accessibility violations in question are truly minor, as the proponents of these bills claim, it would not be difficult for businesses to fix the problem and resolve the issue quickly, with minimal attorneys’ fees. Hence, the issue is not an ADA one. >>>> >>>> In addition, it’s important to recognize that the ADA includes several provisions that protect businesses from unreasonable requirements. For example, the ADA does not require any action that would cause an “undue burden” or that is “not readily achievable,” which is defined as “easily accomplished and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense.” >>>> >>>> Adding a notification requirement won’t make serial lawsuits go away. Instead, it simply sends the message to business owners that they don’t have to worry about complying with the ADA until they receive a letter notifying them that they are discriminating against people with disabilities. In other words, instead of complying, they can just “wait and see” if they are caught. >>>> >>>> The imposition of a months-long “waiting period,” during which a business may continue to violate the law and deny access to people with disabilities once it has received a notice that it is violating the ADA, is simply not reasonable. >>>> >>>> In short, the premise of bills like the ADA Education and Reform Act is that businesses should not be responsible for knowing their obligations to comply with a law that has been in effect for nearly three decades, but people with disabilities should instead be responsible not only for knowing the accessibility requirements of that law, but also for determining when a business is not in compliance and for knowing the specific requirements of the notice that they must provide. >>>> >>>> Establishing and running a business involves compliance with numerous laws, including tax laws, property laws, health and safety laws, environmental laws, civil rights laws, and many others. Compliance with these legal obligations is part of the cost of doing business. >>>> >>>> Business owners, and society as a whole, have had nearly 27 years to become aware of the ADA. Indeed, I would guess that every business owner knows at least one person with a disability and is at least vaguely aware that the ADA exists. Moreover, there are plenty of resources that provide information on ADA requirements to business owners. Indeed, the DOJ offers free technical assistance as well as several publicly available publications. In addition, there are ADA technical assistance centers across the country that offer information, guidance, and training on how to implement the ADA. There is simply no excuse for noncompliance at this point. >>>> >>>> The bill is currently in the U.S. House Judiciary Committee; it has 18 co-sponsors. Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now. With the stroke of a pen, much that the disability community has fought hard for could be undone. What civil rights law will be on the chopping block next? >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindMath mailing list >>> BlindMath at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindMath: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>> BlindMath Gems can be found at >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindMath mailing list >> BlindMath at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindMath: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com >> BlindMath Gems can be found at > _______________________________________________ > BlindMath mailing list > BlindMath at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindMath: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com > BlindMath Gems can be found at From redwing731 at gmail.com Mon Jun 5 19:31:49 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 12:31:49 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [BlindMath] [acb-chat] The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress - Rewire In-Reply-To: References: <3DFF7404-F59A-4FE3-AA15-210E926D27BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: That's fine. Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. > On Jun 5, 2017, at 12:24, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > > FYI…. I deleted all the unnecessary address info so you go to the content immediately. > Sent from my Macbook Pro 13 > >> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> The Americans With Disabilities Act Is Under Attack in Congress >>>>> May 30, 2017, 9:47am >>>>> Robyn Powell >>>>> >>>>> The House Judiciary Committee is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017. >>>>> >>>>> Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now. >>>>> Shutterstock >>>>> On July 26, 1990, George H.W. Bush signed the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) into law, proclaiming, “Let the shameful wall of exclusion finally come tumbling down!” Although I was only 8 years old, I still remember its passage and the increased accessibility that followed. >>>>> >>>>> The ADA has both literally and figuratively opened countless doors for people like me, by requiring entities that are open to the public—such as restaurants, movie theaters, hospitals, hotels, and museums—be fully accessible to people with disabilities. The ADA also requires employers, as well as public and private entities, to provide reasonable accommodations to people with disabilities and prohibits discrimination based on disability. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, passage of the ADA did not make ramps and elevators magically appear; nor did it immediately halt discrimination against people with disabilities. Progress takes time, which, as a wheelchair user, I have witnessed firsthand. Indeed, for several years after the law’s passage, my parents or I would always have to call places in advance to make sure that they were wheelchair accessible. For years, the answer was “no.” But times have changed, and now I no longer feel I need to take these extra steps before leaving my home. Nearly 27 years after the passage of the ADA, I now expect that all businesses will be accessible. And that is liberating. >>>>> >>>>> While we surely have much further to go, the ADA has unequivocally led to much greater inclusion and accessibility and far less discrimination. Now, however, Congress is currently considering imposing significant limitations to the ADA through the passage of the ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017 (HR 620), sponsored by Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX). >>>>> >>>>> Appreciate our work? >>>>> >>>>> Rewire is a non-profit independent media publication. Your tax-deductible contribution helps support our research, reporting, and analysis. >>>>> >>>>> DONATE NOW >>>>> >>>>> Currently, if a person with a disability encounters an accessibility barrier at a business, they have two options: They can file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), which will investigate and decide if a violation has occurred. DOJ may enter into mediation with the person and the business, which is a low-cost approach to resolve ADA violations fairly quickly. DOJ may also sue the business on the person’s behalf. Alternatively, people with disabilities may file a lawsuit in court, bypassing DOJ altogether. The cornerstone of current enforcement options is that the violation can often be resolved swiftly. >>>>> >>>>> If the ADA Education and Reform Act is passed, however, a person with a disability would be required to give a written notice to a business owner who has barriers to access. The business owner would then have 60 days to even acknowledge that there is a problem—and then another 120 days to make substantial progress toward correcting the violation. In other words, people with disabilities would be forced to wait 180 days to enforce their civil rights. >>>>> >>>>> The ADA Education and Reform Act is premised on trying to curb “drive-by” ADA lawsuits: that is, frivolous lawsuits brought by attorneys alleging ADA violations. Surely, serial litigators, attorneys who simply bring lawsuits to line their pockets, must be stopped. However, these bills are not the solution. >>>>> >>>>> To be fair, I vehemently oppose frivolous ADA lawsuits, where people seek to use the ADA for their own monetary gain. I cherish this law and hate hearing that some misuse it. However, it’s important to note that they are not as prevalent as some believe. An analysis of ADA lawsuits in 2016 identified just 12 individuals and one organization that have filed more than 100 lawsuits each. But frivolous lawsuits are not an ADA issue; they are a state and court problem. Indeed, ethics rules bar attorneys from bringing frivolous lawsuits. Rather than go after people with disabilities, attention should be focused on stopping these few bad attorneys. >>>>> >>>>> Notably, passage of the ADA and ADA Amendments Act involved the disability community and bipartisan lawmakers working together with the business community. These “notification bills,” however, do not. Rather, they are the result of business owners and their lobbyists. >>>>> >>>>> The disability community is not interested in more lawsuits; we simply want accessibility. There is no such thing as the “ADA police.” Enforcement depends on people with disabilities who know their rights to challenge violations. Filing lawsuits is timely and expensive. Finding an attorney that is knowledgeable about the ADA is very challenging. I say this because I believe it is fairly safe to assume that there are far more ADA violations occurring than we will ever hear of. As a disabled woman, I encounter violations daily. >>>>> >>>>> Nevertheless, there’s a prevailing belief that ADA regulations are overly technical and most alleged violations are “minor.” The regulations concerning accessible parking spots are frequently used to demonstrate how ADA regulations are too specific. What opponents don’t understand is that the width of parking spaces matter for people with disabilities who drive, such as myself. I drive a wheelchair–accessible van. If someone parks too close, I am literally stuck because no one besides me can drive my van. This has happened to me more times than I count, leaving me stranded outside for hours, until the person returns to their car. >>>>> >>>>> Throughout the years, based on a belief that the ADA is being abused and has become a money-maker, Congress has introduced a number of “notification bills.” These bills are problematic and have been strongly opposed by the disability community. >>>>> >>>>> It is also important to dispel the myth that ADA lawsuits can be profitable for plaintiffs; that is plain wrong. When the ADA was being drafted, as a compromise between the business community and the disability community, the disability community gave up the option to obtain damages for a business’s failure to comply with the law by allowing only injunctive relief—meaning the business owner has to change their behavior—and attorneys’ fees. >>>>> >>>>> Settlements or court orders that involve money damages for accessibility violations are based on state laws in a handful of states, not the ADA. Therefore, adding a notice requirement before people with disabilities can enforce their rights will do nothing to prevent businesses from being subjected to money damages. Moreover, if the accessibility violations in question are truly minor, as the proponents of these bills claim, it would not be difficult for businesses to fix the problem and resolve the issue quickly, with minimal attorneys’ fees. Hence, the issue is not an ADA one. >>>>> >>>>> In addition, it’s important to recognize that the ADA includes several provisions that protect businesses from unreasonable requirements. For example, the ADA does not require any action that would cause an “undue burden” or that is “not readily achievable,” which is defined as “easily accomplished and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense.” >>>>> >>>>> Adding a notification requirement won’t make serial lawsuits go away. Instead, it simply sends the message to business owners that they don’t have to worry about complying with the ADA until they receive a letter notifying them that they are discriminating against people with disabilities. In other words, instead of complying, they can just “wait and see” if they are caught. >>>>> >>>>> The imposition of a months-long “waiting period,” during which a business may continue to violate the law and deny access to people with disabilities once it has received a notice that it is violating the ADA, is simply not reasonable. >>>>> >>>>> In short, the premise of bills like the ADA Education and Reform Act is that businesses should not be responsible for knowing their obligations to comply with a law that has been in effect for nearly three decades, but people with disabilities should instead be responsible not only for knowing the accessibility requirements of that law, but also for determining when a business is not in compliance and for knowing the specific requirements of the notice that they must provide. >>>>> >>>>> Establishing and running a business involves compliance with numerous laws, including tax laws, property laws, health and safety laws, environmental laws, civil rights laws, and many others. Compliance with these legal obligations is part of the cost of doing business. >>>>> >>>>> Business owners, and society as a whole, have had nearly 27 years to become aware of the ADA. Indeed, I would guess that every business owner knows at least one person with a disability and is at least vaguely aware that the ADA exists. Moreover, there are plenty of resources that provide information on ADA requirements to business owners. Indeed, the DOJ offers free technical assistance as well as several publicly available publications. In addition, there are ADA technical assistance centers across the country that offer information, guidance, and training on how to implement the ADA. There is simply no excuse for noncompliance at this point. >>>>> >>>>> The bill is currently in the U.S. House Judiciary Committee; it has 18 co-sponsors. Never in my life as a disabled woman have I been so terrified of losing my civil rights as I am now. With the stroke of a pen, much that the disability community has fought hard for could be undone. What civil rights law will be on the chopping block next? >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindMath mailing list >>>> BlindMath at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindMath: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>> BlindMath Gems can be found at >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindMath mailing list >>> BlindMath at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindMath: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com >>> BlindMath Gems can be found at >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindMath mailing list >> BlindMath at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindMath: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >> BlindMath Gems can be found at > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Mon Jun 5 20:01:10 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 15:01:10 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Come Be Part of Something Great, Outreach Committee Call Message-ID: Dear NABsters, I hope you all are enjoying bikini season as much as I am and are diligently plugging away at your internships. As convention approaches, federation fever is in the air. If you are itching to get involved but are hesitant of getting in over your head, the Outreach Committee is for you. Next Tuesday join us for our monthly membership call. We will be brainstorming ideas to best market this very proud moment in NABS history, how to increase engagement, and finally how to remove the barriers that exist between blind students and their involvement with our organization. Again, the call is next Tuesday, June 13th at 8PM Eastern. The call-in number is (712)770-5197 and the access code is 265669. Cordially, Syed Rizvi From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jun 6 16:54:05 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 09:54:05 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Reminders App on Iphone Message-ID: <5936de58.cfa0620a.87ed1.2658@mx.google.com> Hi All, I have a question regarding the reminders app on the Iphone for anyone who uses the app to write out their tasks (as opposed to use Siri). I am able to create a title for a list, such as "What I Have to Do Today", but that's all I can seem to be able to do with the list function. I know that you can create tasks to put on the list, such as to wash the dishes, but I can't find any text fields to write these tasks down to add to my list. Does anyone know how to do this and if it is accessible? Thanks, Vejas From luke.schwinck at hotmail.com Tue Jun 6 17:28:53 2017 From: luke.schwinck at hotmail.com (luke schwinck) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:28:53 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] looking towards Convention Message-ID: Hello NABS family Lately I have been watching this list abuzz with convention chatter. Chatter about roommates, chatter about mentorship, and chatter about future leadership of our division. While having a place to lay your head, and having someone to help you navigate the bedlam of convention are all important, I am of the opinion that being informed about those seeking to lead us is of the utmost importance. In my experience I have learned that there is a difference between a good person and a good leader. A good person innately considers others and the greater good before themselves. A good leader is able to recognize potential, bring out the best in others, and organize them to work cohesively. Many of us possess one or the other of these attributes, but when you find someone who embodies all of the aforementioned qualities they deserve to be recognized. I have come to know Michael Ausbun as one of these rarities. When I met him nearly two years ago he welcomed me into the fold with open arms. As I interacted with him more I came to anxiously anticipate our conversations. I knew when I asked about what he had been doing I was sure to get a new and interesting answer. The content was always about advancing the goals of the National Federation of the Blind and striving towards equality and respect for the Blind. Then it always ended with an open invitation to another conversation and him asking if there was anything he could do to help. This is not opinion but proof that Michael Ausbun is a good person, but is he a good leader? Serving on the NABS Board with MIchael really gives perspective to the kind of leader he is. I observed his ability to recognize potential in himself and others, and then watched him transform that into action. During board meeting and at events he could always be relied upon to be the steady voice of logic and reason. Over the past few months you may have heard of the various positions he has held, but what is less common knowledge is that he has been traveling around the country, literally coast to coast, gathering support for AIM HE. He does this not to make his situation better, but because he believes in the principles of equality and respect for all down to his very core. Michael Ausbun has had my unwavering support since he first indicated an interest in serving as first vice president of the National Association of Blind Students. Now that you all have secured your convention roommates, found your mentor/mentees, and been informed it is time to look towards the future. It is my sincerest hope that you all afford Michael the recognition and respect he has earned and go forward with him to help build this beautiful and powerful federation. Best regards, Luke A. Schwinck President | National Federation of the Blind of Kansas Student Division From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Jun 6 17:30:49 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 13:30:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about Reminders App on Iphone Message-ID: <5936e6db.50109d0a.3b52f.1670@mx.google.com> Hi Vejas use the notes app to make lists on your phone. From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 18:52:03 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 13:52:03 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] How To Learn MacBook Pro Message-ID: <3CAF4B9A-5212-4782-A833-12B16685CFFD@yahoo.com> Hi Folks, I would like suggestions on how to learn about using the MacBook Pro. Are there videos that are accessible and other such materials or ways that I could learn about how to use a MacBook? I'm not comfortable in using one right now. I have a book about MacBooks, but I think that I'd also like other avenues for learning how to use one. Thanks so much! Respectfully, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From jldail13 at gmail.com Tue Jun 6 19:19:48 2017 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 15:19:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] How To Learn MacBook Pro In-Reply-To: <3CAF4B9A-5212-4782-A833-12B16685CFFD@yahoo.com> References: <3CAF4B9A-5212-4782-A833-12B16685CFFD@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <76F0E2EA-1477-4AD1-B17B-DEB04E52FDEB@gmail.com> Hi, I learned mine, just by "playing" with voiceover, and letting it say its hints. You can find resources on applevis.com. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I would like suggestions on how to learn about using the MacBook Pro. Are there videos that are accessible and other such materials or ways that I could learn about how to use a MacBook? I'm not comfortable in using one right now. I have a book about MacBooks, but I think that I'd also like other avenues for learning how to use one. Thanks so much! > > Respectfully, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From jhud7789 at outlook.com Tue Jun 6 19:24:55 2017 From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joseph Hudson) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 19:24:55 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] How To Learn MacBook Pro In-Reply-To: <3CAF4B9A-5212-4782-A833-12B16685CFFD@yahoo.com> References: <3CAF4B9A-5212-4782-A833-12B16685CFFD@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello, the person never replied to your message already, is giving you a great resource. But how to learn how to use your macBook, I would not mind working with you personally as I have a MacBook Pro. My services are free of charge I was I have to actually come out and show you gestures on how to use your Mac. So please contact me privately so we can figure out what you would like to learn about your Mac and what you would like to do on your Mac. Most of the gestures and keyboard commands are a little different than windows, so get ready for a little bit of the learning curve. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7789 at gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7789 at yahoo.com > On Jun 6, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I would like suggestions on how to learn about using the MacBook Pro. Are there videos that are accessible and other such materials or ways that I could learn about how to use a MacBook? I'm not comfortable in using one right now. I have a book about MacBooks, but I think that I'd also like other avenues for learning how to use one. Thanks so much! > > Respectfully, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40outlook.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Tue Jun 6 19:31:15 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 12:31:15 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] CABS is on Twitter!! Message-ID: Hello fellow students! As you all know, outreach is a huge part of our movement, especially within the student division. We don't generally stay students forever, unfortunately. Besides that, we are always looking for new members and the fresh energy, motivation, and perspectives they bring. This is especially the case with the California Association of Blind Students--we don't have nearly the membership that we should. A few weeks ago, I shared a link to our Facebook page, which Matthew Gip and I are both working on continuously. Now, thanks to Matthew's efforts, CABS is on Twitter as well... Thanks, Matthew! Once again, I'm reaching out to all of you to help spread the word about our growing movement here in California. Please share this link (and this email) with your blind friends and/or people who work with blind students. Thanks in advance! https://twitter.com/NFB_CABS Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer California Association of Blind Students, Webmaster Stanford University, Class of 2021 From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Tue Jun 6 21:17:15 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:17:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] CABS is on Twitter!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a201d2df0a$46a82f60$d3f88e20$@gmail.com> Congratulations to CABS and welcome to Twitter! If you guys need any help in learning how to use Twitter and get our message out on this platform, please don't hesitate to contact me. Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:31 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: [nabs-l] CABS is on Twitter!! Hello fellow students! As you all know, outreach is a huge part of our movement, especially within the student division. We don't generally stay students forever, unfortunately. Besides that, we are always looking for new members and the fresh energy, motivation, and perspectives they bring. This is especially the case with the California Association of Blind Students--we don't have nearly the membership that we should. A few weeks ago, I shared a link to our Facebook page, which Matthew Gip and I are both working on continuously. Now, thanks to Matthew's efforts, CABS is on Twitter as well... Thanks, Matthew! Once again, I'm reaching out to all of you to help spread the word about our growing movement here in California. Please share this link (and this email) with your blind friends and/or people who work with blind students. Thanks in advance! https://twitter.com/NFB_CABS Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer California Association of Blind Students, Webmaster Stanford University, Class of 2021 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From annajee82 at gmail.com Tue Jun 6 22:13:01 2017 From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:13:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention rooms Message-ID: <1AD3F947-852C-4E1A-AD88-399BF97A4C52@gmail.com> Who still needs roommates? Anna E Givens From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 03:34:13 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 23:34:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS mentoring program closes June 15! Act now! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01c501d2df3e$f1710cd0$d4532670$@gmail.com> Chelsea: It seems that these links aren't working for me. Perhaps it's a problem on my end, but I also see a lot of extraneous information in the links which seems to go to a URL separate from the Google Docs form. Could you resend the links? Thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of chelsea peahl via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 12:28 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: chelsea peahl Subject: [nabs-l] NABS mentoring program closes June 15! Act now! Students! We are now only a month away from the start of our National Convention! As exciting as this time can be, I also know first hand how nerve-wracking going into convention can be! We are so excited to have our mentoring program back! If you are new to our movement, want to get to know more of what our organization offers, want to meet great friends, or are just generally curious about what having a mentor can do for you, I highly recommend applying! If you have been in the federation for a while and are interested in taking a student under your wing to show them all of the greatness that the NFB has to offer, apply to be a mentor! We will work to the best of our ability to pair mentors and mentees up to suit their individual needs, but because this will take some time to do, applications will close on June 15, which is in 10 short days! If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me, Chelsea Peahl, at chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com, or Cody Beardslee at cody.beardslee at gmail.com! This link will take you to the mentee application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN9dDQ0ZgdNKdMxodPkf1sfpeJc9Fv9nQj bCsGnqmau34iXw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zcXyDI33kaoBbzSU13MY-3wbwWfVeB4Ebb88z6xZJ MBa9DCKO0RC8W9PRAsqHqlnLdY=w1200-h630-p] 2017 NABS MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentee Application This link will take you to the mentor application! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPMEotBF9M94NcPoqJka7o7_WSwdJqVQUU myDj6eXE-OaLzw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/6W0oDREKs7pQudQac9oCPLMHsXanEPtoRe8aXGl2H GAMa3FjQMTTgrWuHmcA86kI5K4=w1200-h630-p] NABS 2017 MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentor Application Chelsea Peahl NABS Mentoring program 2017 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Wed Jun 7 04:00:54 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 04:00:54 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS mentoring program closes June 15! Act now! In-Reply-To: <01c501d2df3e$f1710cd0$d4532670$@gmail.com> References: , <01c501d2df3e$f1710cd0$d4532670$@gmail.com> Message-ID: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN9dDQ0ZgdNKdMxodPkf1sfpeJc9Fv9nQjbCsGnqmau34iXw/viewform?usp=sf_link https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPMEotBF9M94NcPoqJka7o7_WSwdJqVQUUmyDj6eXE-OaLzw/viewform?usp=sf_link Chelsea Peahl On Jun 6, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L > wrote: Chelsea: It seems that these links aren't working for me. Perhaps it's a problem on my end, but I also see a lot of extraneous information in the links which seems to go to a URL separate from the Google Docs form. Could you resend the links? Thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of chelsea peahl via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 12:28 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: chelsea peahl > Subject: [nabs-l] NABS mentoring program closes June 15! Act now! Students! We are now only a month away from the start of our National Convention! As exciting as this time can be, I also know first hand how nerve-wracking going into convention can be! We are so excited to have our mentoring program back! If you are new to our movement, want to get to know more of what our organization offers, want to meet great friends, or are just generally curious about what having a mentor can do for you, I highly recommend applying! If you have been in the federation for a while and are interested in taking a student under your wing to show them all of the greatness that the NFB has to offer, apply to be a mentor! We will work to the best of our ability to pair mentors and mentees up to suit their individual needs, but because this will take some time to do, applications will close on June 15, which is in 10 short days! If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me, Chelsea Peahl, at chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com, or Cody Beardslee at cody.beardslee at gmail.com! This link will take you to the mentee application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN9dDQ0ZgdNKdMxodPkf1sfpeJc9Fv9nQj bCsGnqmau34iXw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zcXyDI33kaoBbzSU13MY-3wbwWfVeB4Ebb88z6xZJ MBa9DCKO0RC8W9PRAsqHqlnLdY=w1200-h630-p] docs.google.com Mentee Application This link will take you to the mentor application! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPMEotBF9M94NcPoqJka7o7_WSwdJqVQUU myDj6eXE-OaLzw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/6W0oDREKs7pQudQac9oCPLMHsXanEPtoRe8aXGl2H GAMa3FjQMTTgrWuHmcA86kI5K4=w1200-h630-p] docs.google.com Mentor Application Chelsea Peahl NABS Mentoring program 2017 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 04:49:07 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 22:49:07 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Any Military Brats out there? Message-ID: I am a former Brat, and interested to know if there would be interest in a Brat list? BTW, there is no definitive origin for the acronym, but the one I've seen and identify with is: Born, Raised, And Trained. If anyone is interested, give a shout-out. I have already approached David Andrews before posting. Thanks to all. Judy Jones From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 14:39:56 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 07:39:56 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] CABS call Message-ID: Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the California Association of Blind Students will be having our next conference call on Wednesday, June 21... that's two weeks from today!! Come join us for some insightful discussion as we approach convention! When: Wednesday, June 21 at 8:00 PM Pacific Phone: (712) 432-0385 Access code: 958093 I will be there... I hope you can join us! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer Sent from my iPhone From matthewhgip at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 18:21:19 2017 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 11:21:19 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] CABS call In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8F3F63D9-DF4C-4719-A44F-D82652D14E0C@gmail.com> Awesome! I will be there too. And yes, feel free to come join our student conference call and keep our division up-to-date. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:39 AM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just wanted to let you know that the California Association of Blind Students will be having our next conference call on Wednesday, June 21... that's two weeks from today!! Come join us for some insightful discussion as we approach convention! > > When: Wednesday, June 21 at 8:00 PM Pacific > Phone: (712) 432-0385 > Access code: 958093 > > I will be there... I hope you can join us! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com From redwing731 at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 19:58:12 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 12:58:12 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_=5Bacb-chat=5D_Congressional_Republican?= =?utf-8?q?s_think_disabled_Americans_are_gaming_the_system=2C_so_they_wan?= =?utf-8?q?t_to_make_the_ADA_harder_to_enforce_=E2=80=94_Quartz?= References: <3DC8FB131394A6448784300CCD050EF501C254841C@EXHHINMBX09.mh.org> Message-ID: <063B2BA2-BACB-4E1B-A1E8-7DC0530B69C0@gmail.com> Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Demaya, Diego via acb-chat" > Date: June 7, 2017 at 12:05:25 PDT > To: "General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list." , "acbt at groups.io" , "hcb-l at yahoogroups.com" , Karen Spraggs , "sciotoville at att.net" > Cc: "Demaya, Diego" > Subject: [acb-chat] Congressional Republicans think disabled Americans are gaming the system, so they want to make the ADA harder to enforce — Quartz > Reply-To: "General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list." > > Republicans think disabled Americans are gaming the system, so they want to make the ADA harder to enforce > Jake Flanagin > The Judiciary Committee of the United States House of Representatives is considering a major reform of theAmerican With Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990—a federal law which prohibits discrimination against individuals with disabilities in the public sphere (at work, in schools, riding public transit, and in all spaces open to the general public, including privately-owned businesses). For example, under the ADA, businesses open to the public, such as restaurants or pharmacies, need to be wheelchair accessible. > > The ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017 (HR 620) seems like a rather innocuous bill at first glance—it compels the Department of Justice to formulate a program that educates state and local officials and business owners on “strategies for promoting access to public accommodations for persons with a disability.” A prime example of fatty, ostensibly meaningless Washington wonk-speak. But it goes further—the bill, if passed, would prohibit civil suits arising out of a failure to provide adequate access to public accommodations for the disabled unless the plaintiff provides offending property owners with a written notice specifying the deficiency. Owners would then have 60 days to respond with a written plan for improvement, and an additional 120 days to correct the deficiency, or at least demonstrate sufficient progress towards a correction. > > As of now, if a disabled individual cannot access a business open to the public, they can immediately file a complaint with the Justice Department, which will investigate and determine whether a legitimate ADA violation has occurred. If a violation is identified, most plaintiffs opt to mediate with the offending business under the Justice Department’s moderation. If a business fails to cooperate, the Justice Department may sue on the disabled individual’s behalf. These individuals may also file lawsuits against businesses in civil court without federal involvement, sidestepping the entire mediation process. > > “The cornerstone of current enforcement options is that the violation can often be resolved swiftly,” Robyn Powell, an attorney and disability law and policy consultant who disabled herself, writes for Rewire. With the passage of HR 620, individuals with disabilities will be forced to wait 180 days, and likely longer, to seek vindication of their federally-protected civil rights. > > Sponsored by Texas representative Ted Poe, a Republican, along with two Republican and three Democratic colleagues all from Texas and California, HR 620 aims to “curb frivolous lawsuits filed by cash-hungry attorneys and plaintiffs that abuse the ADA,” according to a a Jan. 2017 press release. > > Poe contends that most small business owners in the US “believe that they are in compliance with the ADA and have even passed local and state inspections.” However, “certain attorneys and their pool of serial plaintiffs troll for minor, easily correctable ADA infractions so they can file a lawsuit and make some cash.” He points to an alleged “whole industry” comprised of “people who prey on small business owners and file unnecessary, abusive lawsuits.” > > And he’s not entirely wrong. Indeed, according to a report compiled by attorneys with the employment/labor law firm Seyfarth Shaw, ADA Title III lawsuits—the aforementioned suits filed in civil court sans Justice Department intervention—surged 37% in 2016. But only a fractional minority of these suits were filed by so-called serial plaintiffs, with only 12 having filed more than 100 ADA Title III suits respectively. (A group including two broader disabled-rights advocacy organizations, among some notable ADA abusers.) > > While frivolous ADA Title III suits, also known as “drive-by lawsuits,” are certainly a problem worth addressing, disabled-rights advocates view HR 620 as a bill that addresses symptoms over root cause. > > “There is no active monitoring of ADA compliance,” writes Kim Sauder, a disability studies scholar, in a Dec. 2016 entry published to her blog, Crippled Scholar. “Dealing with infractions of laws governing accessibility [in the US] is often primarily done through complaints. So while the law may say what needs to be done, unless someone actually complains there is little incentive to actively comply. There is no independent body doing regular inspections and meting out fines for non-compliance.” > > In effect, measures like HR 620, which stifle the complaints process, actively obstruct enforcement of the ADA as it is currently formulated. “Enforcement depends on people with disabilities who know their rights to challenge violations,” Robyn Powell explains. “Filing lawsuits is timely and expensive. Finding an attorney that is knowledgeable about the ADA is very challenging. I say this because I believe it is fairly safe to assume that there are far more ADA violations occurring than we will ever hear of. As a disabled woman, I encounter violations daily.” > > Still, a few notable cases of ADA abuse (such as Florida’s prolific drive-by plaintiff, Howard Cohan), supplemented by high-profile exposés that only substantially consider one side of the issue, have instilled a widespread misconception: That ADA regulations are overwhelmingly weaponized against small-business owners to the enrichment of a few slick-haired lawyers and system-gaming plaintiffs. It’s a bilateral shoving-match that excludes the individuals the ADA was specifically crafted to protect. > > Parking regulations are among the most frequently cited in arguments against the current system of ADA enforcement. “What opponents don’t understand is that the width of parking spaces matter for people with disabilities who drive, such as myself,” Powell says. “I drive a wheelchair-accesible van. If someone parks too close, I am literally stuck because no one besides me can drive my van. This has happened to me more times than I [can] count, leaving me stranded outside for hours, until the person returns to their car.” > > The solution disabled-rights advocates call for revamps ADA enforcement methods entirely, sidelining citizen complaints as the chief vehicle for compliance, and inspiring more evenly-spread regulation. “It would be better if government took an active role in monitoring and enforcing accessibility legislation,” says Kim Sauder. “It would likely create a more accessible environment. It would also remove the need for mass lawsuits. It would also remove the proprietor-as-victim narrative because the law would be enforced more uniformly. People would not be able to opine that they had been hit with an infraction when the guy down the street did not.” > > Of course, this is a long shot in the current political climate. The Trump administration, and our Republican-dominated legislature, have demonstrated an outsized affinity for the interests of small-business owners—at least on paper—and an active hostility towards federal regulation. Neither is likely to recognize stricter federal regulation as a solution to any problem, not least enforcement of the ADA. > From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 20:15:10 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 14:15:10 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_=5Bacb-chat=5D_Congressional_Republica?= =?utf-8?q?ns_think_disabled_Americans_are_gaming_the_system=2C_so_?= =?utf-8?q?they_want_to_make_the_ADA_harder_to_enforce_=E2=80=94_Qu?= =?utf-8?q?artz?= In-Reply-To: <063B2BA2-BACB-4E1B-A1E8-7DC0530B69C0@gmail.com> References: <3DC8FB131394A6448784300CCD050EF501C254841C@EXHHINMBX09.mh.org> <063B2BA2-BACB-4E1B-A1E8-7DC0530B69C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wow, I don't know where thisis coming from, but keep inmind that not all news sources are to be trusted. Also a question, are political posts allowed on this particular list? Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kendra Schaber via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 1:58 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kendra Schaber Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [acb-chat] Congressional Republicans think disabled Americans are gaming the system, so they want to make the ADA harder to enforce — Quartz Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Demaya, Diego via acb-chat" > Date: June 7, 2017 at 12:05:25 PDT > To: "General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list." , "acbt at groups.io" , "hcb-l at yahoogroups.com" , Karen Spraggs , "sciotoville at att.net" > Cc: "Demaya, Diego" > Subject: [acb-chat] Congressional Republicans think disabled Americans are gaming the system, so they want to make the ADA harder to enforce — Quartz > Reply-To: "General discussion list for ACB members and friends where a wide range of topics from blindness to politics, issues of the day or whatever comes to mind are welcome. This is a free form discussion list." > > Republicans think disabled Americans are gaming the system, so they want to make the ADA harder to enforce > Jake Flanagin > The Judiciary Committee of the United States House of Representatives is considering a major reform of theAmerican With Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990—a federal law which prohibits discrimination against individuals with disabilities in the public sphere (at work, in schools, riding public transit, and in all spaces open to the general public, including privately-owned businesses). For example, under the ADA, businesses open to the public, such as restaurants or pharmacies, need to be wheelchair accessible. > > The ADA Education and Reform Act of 2017 (HR 620) seems like a rather innocuous bill at first glance—it compels the Department of Justice to formulate a program that educates state and local officials and business owners on “strategies for promoting access to public accommodations for persons with a disability.” A prime example of fatty, ostensibly meaningless Washington wonk-speak. But it goes further—the bill, if passed, would prohibit civil suits arising out of a failure to provide adequate access to public accommodations for the disabled unless the plaintiff provides offending property owners with a written notice specifying the deficiency. Owners would then have 60 days to respond with a written plan for improvement, and an additional 120 days to correct the deficiency, or at least demonstrate sufficient progress towards a correction. > > As of now, if a disabled individual cannot access a business open to the public, they can immediately file a complaint with the Justice Department, which will investigate and determine whether a legitimate ADA violation has occurred. If a violation is identified, most plaintiffs opt to mediate with the offending business under the Justice Department’s moderation. If a business fails to cooperate, the Justice Department may sue on the disabled individual’s behalf. These individuals may also file lawsuits against businesses in civil court without federal involvement, sidestepping the entire mediation process. > > “The cornerstone of current enforcement options is that the violation can often be resolved swiftly,” Robyn Powell, an attorney and disability law and policy consultant who disabled herself, writes for Rewire. With the passage of HR 620, individuals with disabilities will be forced to wait 180 days, and likely longer, to seek vindication of their federally-protected civil rights. > > Sponsored by Texas representative Ted Poe, a Republican, along with two Republican and three Democratic colleagues all from Texas and California, HR 620 aims to “curb frivolous lawsuits filed by cash-hungry attorneys and plaintiffs that abuse the ADA,” according to a a Jan. 2017 press release. > > Poe contends that most small business owners in the US “believe that they are in compliance with the ADA and have even passed local and state inspections.” However, “certain attorneys and their pool of serial plaintiffs troll for minor, easily correctable ADA infractions so they can file a lawsuit and make some cash.” He points to an alleged “whole industry” comprised of “people who prey on small business owners and file unnecessary, abusive lawsuits.” > > And he’s not entirely wrong. Indeed, according to a report compiled by attorneys with the employment/labor law firm Seyfarth Shaw, ADA Title III lawsuits—the aforementioned suits filed in civil court sans Justice Department intervention—surged 37% in 2016. But only a fractional minority of these suits were filed by so-called serial plaintiffs, with only 12 having filed more than 100 ADA Title III suits respectively. (A group including two broader disabled-rights advocacy organizations, among some notable ADA abusers.) > > While frivolous ADA Title III suits, also known as “drive-by lawsuits,” are certainly a problem worth addressing, disabled-rights advocates view HR 620 as a bill that addresses symptoms over root cause. > > “There is no active monitoring of ADA compliance,” writes Kim Sauder, a disability studies scholar, in a Dec. 2016 entry published to her blog, Crippled Scholar. “Dealing with infractions of laws governing accessibility [in the US] is often primarily done through complaints. So while the law may say what needs to be done, unless someone actually complains there is little incentive to actively comply. There is no independent body doing regular inspections and meting out fines for non-compliance.” > > In effect, measures like HR 620, which stifle the complaints process, actively obstruct enforcement of the ADA as it is currently formulated. “Enforcement depends on people with disabilities who know their rights to challenge violations,” Robyn Powell explains. “Filing lawsuits is timely and expensive. Finding an attorney that is knowledgeable about the ADA is very challenging. I say this because I believe it is fairly safe to assume that there are far more ADA violations occurring than we will ever hear of. As a disabled woman, I encounter violations daily.” > > Still, a few notable cases of ADA abuse (such as Florida’s prolific drive-by plaintiff, Howard Cohan), supplemented by high-profile exposés that only substantially consider one side of the issue, have instilled a widespread misconception: That ADA regulations are overwhelmingly weaponized against small-business owners to the enrichment of a few slick-haired lawyers and system-gaming plaintiffs. It’s a bilateral shoving-match that excludes the individuals the ADA was specifically crafted to protect. > > Parking regulations are among the most frequently cited in arguments against the current system of ADA enforcement. “What opponents don’t understand is that the width of parking spaces matter for people with disabilities who drive, such as myself,” Powell says. “I drive a wheelchair-accesible van. If someone parks too close, I am literally stuck because no one besides me can drive my van. This has happened to me more times than I [can] count, leaving me stranded outside for hours, until the person returns to their car.” > > The solution disabled-rights advocates call for revamps ADA enforcement methods entirely, sidelining citizen complaints as the chief vehicle for compliance, and inspiring more evenly-spread regulation. “It would be better if government took an active role in monitoring and enforcing accessibility legislation,” says Kim Sauder. “It would likely create a more accessible environment. It would also remove the need for mass lawsuits. It would also remove the proprietor-as-victim narrative because the law would be enforced more uniformly. People would not be able to opine that they had been hit with an infraction when the guy down the street did not.” > > Of course, this is a long shot in the current political climate. The Trump administration, and our Republican-dominated legislature, have demonstrated an outsized affinity for the interests of small-business owners—at least on paper—and an active hostility towards federal regulation. Neither is likely to recognize stricter federal regulation as a solution to any problem, not least enforcement of the ADA. > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From nabs.president at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 20:19:42 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (NABS President) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 15:19:42 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National Convention agenda is live! Message-ID: <52848A1F-2319-4DA3-AD13-3DB3BBECA984@gmail.com> What you all have been waiting for: http://nfb.org/convention Kathryn Webster President, National Association of Blind Students (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone From nabs.president at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 20:29:14 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (NABS President) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 15:29:14 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National Convention agenda is live! References: <52848A1F-2319-4DA3-AD13-3DB3BBECA984@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21E32011-6138-438A-9828-D51091A94218@gmail.com> What you all have been waiting for: > http://nfb.org/convention > > Kathryn Webster > President, National Association of Blind Students > (203) 273-8463 > Sent from my iPhone From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Thu Jun 8 13:12:23 2017 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 09:12:23 -0400 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?system,=20so=20they=20want=20to=20make=20the=20ADA=20harder=20to=20enforce?= ��� Quartz Message-ID: <59394d44.5424370a.4ff1d.6430@mx.google.com> Hi=20Judy, Yes,=20you=20are=20correct=20that=20political=20discussions=20in=20general= =20are=20 not=20allowed=20on=20this=20list.=20=20However,=20I=20think=20this=20is=20r= eally=20a=20 serious=20matter=20for=20us=20as=20people=20with=20disabilities.=20=20In=20= the=20past=20 there=20have=20been=20many=20political=20threads=20on=20here=20specfically= =20geared=20 towards=20people=20with=20disabilities,=20for=20example=20asking=20us=20to= =20sign=20a=20 petition=20for=20our=20Senators=20and=20Representatives=20to=20see=20that=20= we=20are=20 people=20as=20well. As=20for=20your=20point=20about=20not=20all=20news=20sources=20being=20trus= ted.=20=20I=20 have=20no=20idea=20what=20your=20political=20views=20are,=20nor=20do=20I=20= care.=20=20 However,=20I=20would=20bear=20in=20mind=20that=20this=20post=20has=20been=20= very=20 eloquently=20written=20by=20the=20original=20poster.=20=20If=20someone=20is= =20writing=20 something=20with=20a=20relatively=20strong=20case=20to=20support=20their=20= argument,=20with=20many=20details,=20then=20they=20probably=20got=20their=20= information=20from=20a=20reliable=20source.=20=20If=20they=20have=20a=20rat= her=20weak=20 argument,=20though,=20they=20you're=20right,=20we=20should=20probably=20que= stion=20 the=20sources=20of=20where=20they=20got=20their=20information.=20=20So,=20I= =20would=20 look=20at=20how=20strong/weak=20the=20argument=20is=20before=20immediately= =20 concluding=20that=20the=20news=20source=20may=20not=20be=20trusted. Thanks=20and=20have=20a=20nice=20day, Sami =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Judy=20Jones=20via=20NABS-L=20,=20"acbt at groups.io"=20 ,=20"hcb-l at yahoogroups.com"=20 ,=20Karen=20Spraggs=20,=20 "sciotoville at att.net"=20 References: Message-ID: As a part of the NFB's work with Pearson, we are helping to recruit participants for Pearson's user studies during the NFB convention. We are really excited about this opportunity and need to try to recruit as many qualified participants as possible. The registration deadline is June 18. We are seeking students who completed Algebra 1 or a higher level math class this past school year to help with the user testing. Students should be at or near grade level and should be screen access software users and Braille readers. Participants will receive $50 gift cards for every 30 minutes of participation (up to 1 ½ hours) and will help with the development of Pearson's accessible equation editor. Please register to participate via one of the following links: · 18 years or older: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/18_and_over · Under 18 years old: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/under_18_years Please contact Valerie Yingling at vyingling at nfb.org with any questions. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 8 21:33:30 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:33:30 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Message-ID: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> Hi All, I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to start up. Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? Thanks, Vejas From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 8 21:40:52 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 17:40:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password edit." I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Hi All, I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to start up. Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? Thanks, Vejas _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 8 22:12:17 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 15:12:17 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Jen, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, when I hit enter the computer just says the name of the key, "enter." Vejas > On Jun 8, 2017, at 14:40, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password > edit." > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 > to start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon > password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, > though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape > don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so > for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I > do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign > in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 8 22:17:12 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 18:17:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000001d2e0a4$fb57f670$f207e350$@sbcglobal.net> It looks like you're stuck in Keyboard Help. Press Insert and the number 1 on the number row. JAWS says, "Keyboard help of." Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:12 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Hi Jen, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, when I hit enter the computer just says the name of the key, "enter." Vejas > On Jun 8, 2017, at 14:40, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password > edit." > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 > to start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon > password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, > though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape > don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so > for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I > do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign > in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 8 22:25:29 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 15:25:29 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <000001d2e0a4$fb57f670$f207e350$@sbcglobal.net> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> <000001d2e0a4$fb57f670$f207e350$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Thanks. Keyboard help hadn't worked but after giving it about a half hour and trying to start it again, I was able to alt-tab to the password field. I am still curious if anyone else has had a similar problem of complete freezing and if they were able to find a quicker, more timely fix. Vejas > On Jun 8, 2017, at 15:17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > It looks like you're stuck in Keyboard Help. Press Insert and the number 1 > on the number row. JAWS says, "Keyboard help of." > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:12 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi Jen, > Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, when I hit enter the computer just > says the name of the key, "enter." > Vejas > >> On Jun 8, 2017, at 14:40, Jen via NABS-L wrote: >> >> When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password >> edit." >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Jen >> >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas >> Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas >> Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? >> >> Hi All, >> I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 >> to start up. >> Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon >> password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, >> though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape >> don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so >> for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I >> do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign >> in. >> Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai > l.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 8 22:33:20 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 18:33:20 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> <000001d2e0a4$fb57f670$f207e350$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000001d2e0a7$3c3badb0$b4b30910$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Vejas, I have never had this problem. Hopefully, someone will come along shortly who can give you a quick solution for next time. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:25 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Thanks. Keyboard help hadn't worked but after giving it about a half hour and trying to start it again, I was able to alt-tab to the password field. I am still curious if anyone else has had a similar problem of complete freezing and if they were able to find a quicker, more timely fix. Vejas > On Jun 8, 2017, at 15:17, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > It looks like you're stuck in Keyboard Help. Press Insert and the number 1 > on the number row. JAWS says, "Keyboard help of." > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:12 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi Jen, > Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, when I hit enter the computer just > says the name of the key, "enter." > Vejas > >> On Jun 8, 2017, at 14:40, Jen via NABS-L wrote: >> >> When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password >> edit." >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Jen >> >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas >> Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas >> Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? >> >> Hi All, >> I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 >> to start up. >> Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon >> password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, >> though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape >> don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so >> for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I >> do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign >> in. >> Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai > l.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From sonshines59 at gmail.com Thu Jun 8 22:49:25 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 16:49:25 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you can try? They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Hi All, I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to start up. Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? Thanks, Vejas _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From gpaikens at gmail.com Thu Jun 8 23:18:45 2017 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 19:18:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting Windows Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit boxes. Starting Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box and then JAWS will work fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start Narrator, the command is Windows+Enter. Best, Greg > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you can try? > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 > to start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon > password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, > though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape > don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so > for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I > do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign > in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Fri Jun 9 00:02:36 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 18:02:36 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for that. This happened with my husband's computer, but we waited about 3 minutes and the edit field appeared. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:19 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Greg Aikens Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting Windows Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit boxes. Starting Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box and then JAWS will work fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start Narrator, the command is Windows+Enter. Best, Greg > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you can try? > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to > start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password > edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems > friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The > computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit > tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says > "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.c > om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Fri Jun 9 00:29:44 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 18:29:44 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just to try it, I tried the key combination Windows Enter, and nothing happened. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:19 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Greg Aikens Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting Windows Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit boxes. Starting Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box and then JAWS will work fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start Narrator, the command is Windows+Enter. Best, Greg > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you can try? > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to > start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password > edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems > friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The > computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit > tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says > "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.c > om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Fri Jun 9 00:43:49 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 18:43:49 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> Message-ID: My apologies, I should have played with this before posting. To toggle Narrator on and off it is control-windows-enter. Thanks for starting me down the right track. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:19 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Greg Aikens Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting Windows Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit boxes. Starting Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box and then JAWS will work fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start Narrator, the command is Windows+Enter. Best, Greg > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you can try? > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to > start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password > edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems > friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The > computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit > tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says > "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.c > om _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From gpaikens at gmail.com Fri Jun 9 12:20:02 2017 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:20:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> Message-ID: Interesting. Windows + Enter works on our computers at work and I believe that is what I read in the Windows Narrator help pages. I wonder if it is something about your specific keyboard layout? On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > My apologies, I should have played with this before posting. To toggle > Narrator on and off it is control-windows-enter. > > Thanks for starting me down the right track. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:19 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Greg Aikens > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting Windows > Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit boxes. Starting > Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box and then JAWS will work > fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start Narrator, the command is > Windows+Enter. > > Best, > Greg > > > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > wrote: > > > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you can > try? > > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > > > Judy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > > > Hi All, > > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to > > start up. > > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password > > edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems > > friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The > > computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit > > tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says > > "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. > > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > > Thanks, > > Vejas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmai > > l.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.c > > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com > From sonshines59 at gmail.com Fri Jun 9 14:48:40 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:48:40 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nope, I looked up the key combination when I couldn't get the Windows Enter combination to work. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:20 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Greg Aikens Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Interesting. Windows + Enter works on our computers at work and I believe that is what I read in the Windows Narrator help pages. I wonder if it is something about your specific keyboard layout? On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > My apologies, I should have played with this before posting. To > toggle Narrator on and off it is control-windows-enter. > > Thanks for starting me down the right track. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg > Aikens via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:19 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Greg Aikens > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting > Windows Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit > boxes. Starting Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box > and then JAWS will work fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start > Narrator, the command is > Windows+Enter. > > Best, > Greg > > > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > > > wrote: > > > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you > > can > try? > > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > > > Judy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > > > Hi All, > > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to > > start up. > > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password > > edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems > > friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The > > computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit > > tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says > > "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. > > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > > Thanks, > > Vejas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gm > > ai > > l.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail > > .c > > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.c > om > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Fri Jun 9 19:20:01 2017 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:20:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c601d2e155$6474ed60$2d5ec820$@visi.com> Microsoft changed the keystroke to start Narrator with Windows Creator. It seems that people were starting Narrator by accident and then calling Microsoft for help. I am biting my tongue rather than saying more. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:49 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Nope, I looked up the key combination when I couldn't get the Windows Enter combination to work. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:20 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Greg Aikens Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Interesting. Windows + Enter works on our computers at work and I believe that is what I read in the Windows Narrator help pages. I wonder if it is something about your specific keyboard layout? On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > My apologies, I should have played with this before posting. To > toggle Narrator on and off it is control-windows-enter. > > Thanks for starting me down the right track. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg > Aikens via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:19 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Greg Aikens > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting > Windows Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit > boxes. Starting Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box > and then JAWS will work fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start > Narrator, the command is > Windows+Enter. > > Best, > Greg > > > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > > > wrote: > > > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you > > can > try? > > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > > > Judy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > > > Hi All, > > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to > > start up. > > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password > > edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems > > friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The > > computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit > > tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says > > "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. > > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > > Thanks, > > Vejas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gm > > ai > > l.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail > > .c > > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.c > om > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From Amason at nfb.org Fri Jun 9 19:28:40 2017 From: Amason at nfb.org (Mason, Amy) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 19:28:40 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <00c601d2e155$6474ed60$2d5ec820$@visi.com> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <54391691-0743-457E-BE9E-2DFD87FB0635@gmail.com> <00c601d2e155$6474ed60$2d5ec820$@visi.com> Message-ID: If post creator update the new keystroke is Windows ctrl enter https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22817/windows-10-narrator-introducing Amy Mason (410) 659-9314 Ext. 2424 National Federation of the Blind -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 3:20 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Microsoft changed the keystroke to start Narrator with Windows Creator. It seems that people were starting Narrator by accident and then calling Microsoft for help. I am biting my tongue rather than saying more. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:49 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Nope, I looked up the key combination when I couldn't get the Windows Enter combination to work. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:20 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Greg Aikens Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Interesting. Windows + Enter works on our computers at work and I believe that is what I read in the Windows Narrator help pages. I wonder if it is something about your specific keyboard layout? On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > My apologies, I should have played with this before posting. To > toggle Narrator on and off it is control-windows-enter. > > Thanks for starting me down the right track. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg > Aikens via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:19 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Greg Aikens > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Sometimes this happens. The way I usually fix it is by starting > Windows Narrator. It is almost as though JAWS can’t find the edit > boxes. Starting Narrator seems to drop the cursor into the edit box > and then JAWS will work fine. Quirky, but it works for me. To start > Narrator, the command is > Windows+Enter. > > Best, > Greg > > > On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > > > wrote: > > > > Do you have any tech support service related to your computer you > > can > try? > > They will ask you the model number and can best advise you that way. > > > > Judy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:34 PM > > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > > > Hi All, > > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 to > > start up. > > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon password > > edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, though, it seems > > friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape don't work. The > > computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so for example if I hit > > tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I do insert t, it says > > "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign in. > > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > > Thanks, > > Vejas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gm > > ai > > l.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail > > .c > > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.c > om > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amason%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From steve.jacobson at visi.com Fri Jun 9 19:42:05 2017 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:42:05 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <00c901d2e158$7a14c980$6e3e5c80$@visi.com> Vejas, I have had a similar problem on one of my computers. Much of the advice you have received is good, but we have no way of knowing exactly what is happening there. I had one case where I could not get past the lock screen after bringing my laptop out of sleep mode. In the end, I had to force a shutdown to be able to restart the computer by holding down the power button. I try to avoid doing that, though. I would also suggest that the advice you received saying to give it some time is also good advice. It is my experience that one is less aware of automatic processes that Windows 10 runs, but these processes can cause delays. In particular, one does not always know when a Windows update is being downloaded or installed. I do occasionally see the warning not to turn my computer off because an update is running, but it is not always easy to know when something like this is delaying things. Finally, Windows Defender also runs scans. I find that their scans do not seem to slow down my computer to the degree that some scans have done in the past, but it is all done behind the scenes and one does not always know when they are running. It is my understanding that some of these activities can occur while your screen is locked. Finally, I have sometimes found that pressing ALT-TAB seems to get me back to the sign-in screen. However, I have seen variations on all of this on the same computer even without me changing anything. I have read where some problems have arisen for some people with or without screen readers from the "Fast Boot" option. I have found that I seem to have fewer problems now that I have turned that option off. I believe if you search for "Personalize" and then activate the "advanced" options that you will find it if you want to try that. I can try to find better directions to get there if you want to try going that route or perhaps someone will beat me to it. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 5:12 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Hi Jen, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, when I hit enter the computer just says the name of the key, "enter." Vejas > On Jun 8, 2017, at 14:40, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password > edit." > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 > to start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon > password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, > though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape > don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so > for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I > do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign > in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 21:48:55 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:48:55 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] You are Invited to an Etiquette Dinner! Message-ID: <115A7CB3-84E0-4D7D-963B-2DB4F55E7384@yahoo.com> Dear Federation Family, You are cordially invited to attend the inaugural "winning Them Over With Professionalism and Poise", Etiquette Dinner presented by the Employment Committee of the National Federation of the Blind! At this dinner, you will be educated on the ins and outs of appropriate etiquette in both professional and social dining settings. From knowing which fork to use, to how much to tip, and even appropriate dinner conversation. These are just a few of the things that will be discussed. There will also be an “Ask Ms. Manners” portion at the end. For this portion of the evening, you will have the opportunity to anonymously ask those burning questions that you may be too afraid or embarrassed to ask out loud. Simply write down your question in either braille or large print, bring it with you to dinner, and get the answers you seek! The dinner will be held on Monday July 10th at 5:30pm at Café Osceola located within the Rosen Shingle Creek Hotel. Attendees are responsible for the cost of their meal and are required to register in advance to reserve their seat. The dress code is business casual, and we request that you arrive early so we can begin promptly. Also, two lucky attendees will be chosen at random and the cost of their entire meal (except any alcoholic beverages) will be covered at no expense to them! The following menu options will be available during the event: • Soup of the Day- $5.25 o Ask your Server for selection(s) • COBB SALAD- $14.50 o Hearts of Romaine, Grilled Chicken, Radish, Carrots, Baby Heirloom Tomatoes, Cucumber, Chopped Egg, Blue Cheese, Avocado, Applewood Bacon, and Wasabi Ranch Dressing. • FORT KING GRILLED RIB EYE- $24.00 o A 10 oz. Ribeye, 5 Peppercorn Rub, Yukon Mashed Potato, Grilled Asparagus, Mushroom and Onion Ragu, Rosemary Au Jus • FORT PAYTON BBQ SALMON- $23.50 o Pan-Seared Salmon, Ancho and Honey Rub, Tomatillo Relish, Jasmine Rice, and Broccolini • RAINBOW S SPRINGS ROASTED CHICKEN- $19.50 o Roasted Marinated Half Chicken, Yukon Mashed Potatoes, Grilled Asparagus, Pearl Onions, Lemon Thyme Jus • Drinks and Desserts Available Upon Request Keep in mind that these prices do not include taxes and gratuity. Space is limited, and seats will be reserved on a first come first serve basis. To secure your spot, register today! To sign up, complete the attached registration form, separate it, and e-mail it to me at bobbipompey at gmail.com. You’ll be notified that your registration has been received within 24 hours. Seats will be reserved in the order in which your registration was received. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me via e-mail at bobbipompey at gmail.com or phone at 336-988-6375. This is going to be a wonderful event, and well worth your time. The techniques you learn at this dinner are sure to add a finishing touch of class to your business persona and make you that much more desirable within the job arena. Remember you don’t get a second chance at a first impression. So let’s learn and grow together! Yours truly, Bobbi A. L. Pompey, Member Employment Committee National Federation of the Blind (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 9 22:46:33 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 18:46:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? In-Reply-To: <00c901d2e158$7a14c980$6e3e5c80$@visi.com> References: <5939c2da.5a12620a.b3465.98d3@mx.google.com> <000101d2e09f$e7be8390$b73b8ab0$@sbcglobal.net> <00c901d2e158$7a14c980$6e3e5c80$@visi.com> Message-ID: <000001d2e172$41d00980$c5701c80$@sbcglobal.net> Here is how to turn off "Hibernate" and "Fast Startup." 1. Go to the command prompt. Press Windows, R, and type cmd. 2. Press Enter on Command Prompt. 3. Type powercfg/h off This tells Windows 10 to turn off "Hibernate" and "Fast Startup." Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 3:42 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Vejas, I have had a similar problem on one of my computers. Much of the advice you have received is good, but we have no way of knowing exactly what is happening there. I had one case where I could not get past the lock screen after bringing my laptop out of sleep mode. In the end, I had to force a shutdown to be able to restart the computer by holding down the power button. I try to avoid doing that though. Also, I would suggest the advice you received saying to give it some time is good advice. It is my experience one is less aware of automatic processes Windows 10 runs, but these processes can cause delays in particular, one does not always know when a Windows update is being downloaded or installed. Occasionally, I do see the warning not to turn my computer off because an update is running, but it is not always easy to know when something like this is delaying things. Finally, Windows Defender also runs scans. I find their scans do not seem to slow my computer down to the degree some scans have in the past, but it is all done behind the scenes, and one does not always know when they are running; it is my understanding some of these activities can occur while your screen is locked. Finally, sometimes, I have found pressing Alt, Tab seems to get me back to the sign-in screen; however, I have seen variations on all this on the same computer, even without my changing anything. I have read where some problems have arisen for some people, with or without screen readers, from the "Fast Boot" option; I have found I seem to have fewer problems, now I have turned that option off. I believe if you search for "Personalize" and then activate the "advanced" options, you will find it if you want to try that. I can try to find better directions to get there if you want to try going that route, or perhaps someone will beat me to it. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 5:12 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Hi Jen, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, when I hit enter the computer just says the name of the key, "enter." Vejas > On Jun 8, 2017, at 14:40, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password > edit." > > I hope this helps. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas > Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? > > Hi All, > I am having trouble getting my Dell Latitude running windows 10 > to start up. > Normally, when I turn it on Jaws will say "password colon > password edit" or, it doesn't, I just hit alt-tab. Today, > though, it seems friendzen. Trying tab, alt-tab, enter or escape > don't work. The computer talks as if it is in keyboard help, so > for example if I hit tab, it will say "tab" but not work. When I > do insert t, it says "Title is: windows sign-in" but I can't sign > in. > Has anyone had this issue before or know what I can do? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmai l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From redwing731 at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 00:34:57 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:34:57 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] A question about the Kindle app on an IPhone SE. Message-ID: <44302F86-082A-4C2C-85C5-29666D97CC12@gmail.com> Hi all! I'm trying to add books to my wish list on the Kindle app. I'm using an IPhone SE that is fully updated along with Voice Over. I have saved a few books on to my wish list just fine but the fourth book, I can't add it to the wish list. The app isn't letting me add to my wish list. Does any one know if there is a limit to adding books to your wish list using the Kindle app? Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. From alpineimagination at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 02:29:03 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 19:29:03 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Windows 10 Computer Stuck on Lock Screen? Message-ID: <593b59a3.4818620a.21026.c5e3@mx.google.com> Thank you so much, Steve. Narrator now works for me when I have trouble starting up. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Jacobson via NABS-L wrote: When JAWS says "Windows Sign-in," press Enter. Then, it will say "password edit." I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:34 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas > >Hello, Mr. Andrews list below is the announcement for my friend so >that you can share it with everyone. > >Thanks for your help! > >Hello convention goers! > >My name is Dishon and I have a friend that lives a few hours away >from the hotel where the convention will be held this coming >July. She is looking for someone that maybe looking for a roommate >to share the cost of the room. If you are looking or know of >someone that is looking, PLEASE send me your contact information at >the following email address >(dspears at cocenter.org) so that I can >send your information off to her and then she can give you a call to >get to know each other before the National convention. >Thank all of you for your assistance with this. > > From dandrews at visi.com Sun Jun 11 03:27:36 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 22:27:36 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [BANA-Announce] Survey on Quotation Marks & Apostrophes in UEB Message-ID: > >The UEB Code Maintenance Committee is seeking opinions on a possible >change to the representation of single quotation marks and apostrophes in UEB. > >An explanatory document (in print and braille) and survey link are >located on the ICEB home page at www.iceb.org. > >Please spread the word of the survey through your local listservs, >social media, newsletters, meetings and word-of-mouth. > >It is important that we reach as many people as possible. Adults who >read a lot of electronic braille, adults who read mainly hard copy >braille, teachers of children learning braille and braille >transcribers are all likely to hold different opinions and their >voices need to be heard. Moreover, there is a big difference in the >predominance of single quotation marks in print across countries. > >The survey will be open for the month of June. > >The Code Maintenance Committee (CMC) of the International Council on >English Braille (ICEB) would like your input on possible changes to >the braille representation of single quotation marks and the >apostrophe to facilitate translation and reading on electronic >braille devices. The explanatory document gives an explanation of >the problem and the options under consideration. (Thanks to James >Bowden, UK, and Leona Holloway, Australia, for their work on this.) > >After reading the information, please complete the survey at > >www.surveymonkey.com/r/UEB-apostrophe [1] > >to indicate your preference. The CMC will use the results of the >survey to guide their decision on this issue. > >The survey will be available until the end of June. If necessary, >this time frame may be extended. > >Please share this message with any colleagues who may be interested >(with apologies for all the cross-postings I hope this will generate). > >Thanks for your attention to this issue. > >With best regards, > >Phyllis Landon >ICEB Code Maintenance Officer > >Links: >------ >[1] http://webmail.anchor.net.au/www.surveymonkey.com/r/UEB-apostrophe >_______________________________________________ >BANA-Announce mailing list >BANA-Announce at brailleauthority.org >http://www.brailleauthority.org/mailman/listinfo/bana-announce From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 18:28:59 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 13:28:59 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Connecting Focus 40 Braille Display With iMac Message-ID: Howdie Folks, I am working this summer, and one of my jobs is in a place known as the collaboratory. It's a creative space for people to come and make things. I was trying to pair my Focus 40 with one of the many iMacs in the room, but it would say that it was connected and nothing would show up on the display but a second later, it would show a message that said that it wasn't connected. Anyone have suggestions on how to pair these two devices together? The VoiceOver was on and the bluetooth was on as well. Is it even possible for the Focus 40 to pair with an iMac? It would make sense to do so, but you never know. Thank you so much! Blessings, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From jameyanne at gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:35:02 2017 From: jameyanne at gmail.com (Jameyanne Fuller) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 21:35:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks Message-ID: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start of my second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is going to want the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write checks each month. I know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but that has fees attached. I'm sure I could ask my roommates to write the check for me, but I'd really prefer to do this by myself. So my question is, how can I fill out my own checks independently? Thanks for your help. Best, Jameyanne From misokwak12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:46:15 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 18:46:15 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> References: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jameyanne, I've only used this once or twice so I amnot super familiar but I know that there is a check guide. It's a plastic-ish material that has holes in which you write necessary information for the check. I believe you can purchase it from the NFB Independence market On 6/11/17, Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start of my > second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is going to want > the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write checks each month. I > know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but that has fees attached. I'm > sure I could ask my roommates to write the check for me, but I'd really > prefer to do this by myself. So my question is, how can I fill out my own > checks independently? > > Thanks for your help. > > Best, > > Jameyanne > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From tyler at tysdomain.com Mon Jun 12 02:17:33 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 22:17:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> References: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Most banks offer an online method where you can send the checks electronically. This is how I send money and there are no fees attached. It also means no paying for stamps which is nice. Your bank probably offers something similar. HTH, On 6/11/2017 9:35 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start of my > second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is going to want > the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write checks each month. I > know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but that has fees attached. I'm > sure I could ask my roommates to write the check for me, but I'd really > prefer to do this by myself. So my question is, how can I fill out my own > checks independently? > > Thanks for your help. > > Best, > > Jameyanne > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From gpaikens at gmail.com Mon Jun 12 02:20:16 2017 From: gpaikens at gmail.com (Greg Aikens) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 22:20:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: References: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8B510CB3-5967-4479-B1B5-F43EE63A6CD9@gmail.com> Yes, the check writing guide is great if you can write by hand. Another option is that most banks will let you send checks through your online banking site. It's different than wiring money. You put in the information and they print and mail a physical check. You'll just need to make sure to send the check with enough time for it to arrive by the due date. The last two apartment buildings I lived in had an online portal where I could pay electronically. If you live in a small building complex, that may not be the case. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Jameyanne, > I've only used this once or twice so I amnot super familiar but I know > that there is a check guide. It's a plastic-ish material that has > holes in which you write necessary information for the check. > I believe you can purchase it from the NFB Independence market > >> On 6/11/17, Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start of my >> second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is going to want >> the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write checks each month. I >> know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but that has fees attached. I'm >> sure I could ask my roommates to write the check for me, but I'd really >> prefer to do this by myself. So my question is, how can I fill out my own >> checks independently? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Best, >> >> Jameyanne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com From jfranks at nfbtx.org Mon Jun 12 02:32:08 2017 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 21:32:08 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: <8B510CB3-5967-4479-B1B5-F43EE63A6CD9@gmail.com> References: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> <8B510CB3-5967-4479-B1B5-F43EE63A6CD9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <500DE9E6-636D-4B54-B900-2CF7C1B60A70@nfbtx.org> Yes, the independence market does sell check writing guys. I bought one last February. Sometimes, the apartment complex has an app where you can pay your rent on there. Mine currently does and it is accessible. So if yours does, hopefully it is. I also agree with the other information that has been provided to you on this thread. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Greg Aikens via NABS-L wrote: > > Yes, the check writing guide is great if you can write by hand. Another option is that most banks will let you send checks through your online banking site. It's different than wiring money. You put in the information and they print and mail a physical check. You'll just need to make sure to send the check with enough time for it to arrive by the due date. The last two apartment buildings I lived in had an online portal where I could pay electronically. If you live in a small building complex, that may not be the case. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Jameyanne, >> I've only used this once or twice so I amnot super familiar but I know >> that there is a check guide. It's a plastic-ish material that has >> holes in which you write necessary information for the check. >> I believe you can purchase it from the NFB Independence market >> >>> On 6/11/17, Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start of my >>> second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is going to want >>> the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write checks each month. I >>> know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but that has fees attached. I'm >>> sure I could ask my roommates to write the check for me, but I'd really >>> prefer to do this by myself. So my question is, how can I fill out my own >>> checks independently? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jameyanne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jfranks%40nfbtx.org From carlymih at comcast.net Mon Jun 12 12:48:14 2017 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 05:48:14 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> References: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Good morning, Jameyanne, Yes, if it works for you to write your own checks (I.E) you know how to handwrite,, the writing with which you come up is the legible sort, then, go for it. However, if it were me I don't think there would be any qualms with simply asking someone to fill out the check.At 06:35 PM 6/11/2017, Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L wrote: >Hello everyone, > >I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start of my >second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is going to want >the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write checks each month. I >know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but that has fees attached. I'm >sure I could ask my roommates to write the check for me, but I'd really >prefer to do this by myself. So my question is, how can I fill out my own >checks independently? > >Thanks for your help. > >Best, > >Jameyanne > >_______________________________________________ >NABS-L mailing list >NABS-L at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Mon Jun 12 13:23:53 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 08:23:53 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: KFATdrUyV0T84KFAVd8R0i References: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> <8B510CB3-5967-4479-B1B5-F43EE63A6CD9@gmail.com> KFATdrUyV0T84KFAVd8R0i Message-ID: <002d01d2e37f$23652a70$6a2f7f50$@mediacombb.net> I use so few checks anymore. However, you can also use a program such as quicken. Checks for this purpose are a little more expensive. However, being able to write them myself was worth the difference to me. The aph also use to have a checkwriting program. I don't know if they still do or not. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Franks via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:32 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Jonathan Franks Subject: Re: [nabs-l] writing checks Yes, the independence market does sell check writing guys. I bought one last February. Sometimes, the apartment complex has an app where you can pay your rent on there. Mine currently does and it is accessible. So if yours does, hopefully it is. I also agree with the other information that has been provided to you on this thread. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Greg Aikens via NABS-L wrote: > > Yes, the check writing guide is great if you can write by hand. Another option is that most banks will let you send checks through your online banking site. It's different than wiring money. You put in the information and they print and mail a physical check. You'll just need to make sure to send the check with enough time for it to arrive by the due date. The last two apartment buildings I lived in had an online portal where I could pay electronically. If you live in a small building complex, that may not be the case. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Jameyanne, >> I've only used this once or twice so I amnot super familiar but I >> know that there is a check guide. It's a plastic-ish material that >> has holes in which you write necessary information for the check. >> I believe you can purchase it from the NFB Independence market >> >>> On 6/11/17, Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start >>> of my second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is >>> going to want the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write >>> checks each month. I know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but >>> that has fees attached. I'm sure I could ask my roommates to write >>> the check for me, but I'd really prefer to do this by myself. So my >>> question is, how can I fill out my own checks independently? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jameyanne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gma >>> il.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail. >> com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jfranks%40nfbtx.or > g _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et From sonshines59 at gmail.com Mon Jun 12 16:10:22 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:10:22 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: <002d01d2e37f$23652a70$6a2f7f50$@mediacombb.net> References: <00a601d2e31c$1cd02c40$567084c0$@gmail.com> <8B510CB3-5967-4479-B1B5-F43EE63A6CD9@gmail.com> KFATdrUyV0T84KFAVd8R0i <002d01d2e37f$23652a70$6a2f7f50$@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: Hi, Being of the older generation, my husband and I came out of an era where checks were the only way to go. I got my first "Master Charge" when I was first teaching school in the 70s. Back then, blind people, at least all that I knew, had learned to type out their checks on a typewriter, or use a check writing guide. I still carry a check writing guide in my wallet, but rarely use it. When raising our daughters, though, I used it quite a lot back in the 80s, started tapering off in the 90s. My husband and I still use our typewriter for writing notes in greeting cards, typing envelopes, on sticky-notes for various reasons, notes for the postal carrier or yard person, a neighbor, and for those odd jobs that take anything but an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paper. We would never get rid of our typewriter, and my husband has kept it in top working condition. Now, the only time we write a check is to send our daughters a birthday check in a card, or for Christmas, and once in a while, to a vendor who does not take a credit card. I just ordered a set of checks to have them but will probably be a few years before those are all gone again. Thanks. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 7:24 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Loren Wakefield Subject: Re: [nabs-l] writing checks I use so few checks anymore. However, you can also use a program such as quicken. Checks for this purpose are a little more expensive. However, being able to write them myself was worth the difference to me. The aph also use to have a checkwriting program. I don't know if they still do or not. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Franks via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:32 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Jonathan Franks Subject: Re: [nabs-l] writing checks Yes, the independence market does sell check writing guys. I bought one last February. Sometimes, the apartment complex has an app where you can pay your rent on there. Mine currently does and it is accessible. So if yours does, hopefully it is. I also agree with the other information that has been provided to you on this thread. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Greg Aikens via NABS-L > wrote: > > Yes, the check writing guide is great if you can write by hand. > Another option is that most banks will let you send checks through your online banking site. It's different than wiring money. You put in the information and they print and mail a physical check. You'll just need to make sure to send the check with enough time for it to arrive by the due date. The last two apartment buildings I lived in had an online portal where I could pay electronically. If you live in a small building complex, that may not be the case. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Jameyanne, >> I've only used this once or twice so I amnot super familiar but I >> know that there is a check guide. It's a plastic-ish material that >> has holes in which you write necessary information for the check. >> I believe you can purchase it from the NFB Independence market >> >>> On 6/11/17, Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I'm moving into my first real apartment in August before the start >>> of my second year of law school. I'm not sure how the landlord is >>> going to want the rent, but it's highly likely I'll have to write >>> checks each month. I know wiring the rent may be a possibility, but >>> that has fees attached. I'm sure I could ask my roommates to write >>> the check for me, but I'd really prefer to do this by myself. So my >>> question is, how can I fill out my own checks independently? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jameyanne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gma >>> il.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gpaikens%40gmail. >> com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jfranks%40nfbtx.or > g _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Mon Jun 12 17:16:24 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:16:24 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Final notice for 2017 NABS mentoring program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ________________________________ Students, There are only three days left for applications for this years mentoring program. Please distribute the links to the students in your state and apply yourself as well! I'd love to have students from every state! Please let me know if you have any questions! Chelsea Peahl 2017 NABS Mentoring Program https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN9dDQ0ZgdNKdMxodPkf1sfpeJc9Fv9nQjbCsGnqmau34iXw/viewform?usp=sf_link https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPMEotBF9M94NcPoqJka7o7_WSwdJqVQUUmyDj6eXE-OaLzw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/6W0oDREKs7pQudQac9oCPLMHsXanEPtoRe8aXGl2HGAMa3FjQMTTgrWuHmcA86kI5K4=w1200-h630-p] NABS 2017 MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentor Application [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zcXyDI33kaoBbzSU13MY-3wbwWfVeB4Ebb88z6xZJMBa9DCKO0RC8W9PRAsqHqlnLdY=w1200-h630-p] 2017 NABS MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentee Application From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 20:54:28 2017 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 20:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Walkathon References: <52836737.9970804.1497300868235.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52836737.9970804.1497300868235@mail.yahoo.com> Hey everyone, I hope you are all excited for convention, as it should be a fun filled adventure. I just wanted to remind you that we have exactly one month from the date of this post until our first ever NABS Walkathon event. If you still want to help out with this easy and fun fundraising effort, I encourage you to sign up and get pledges! There is still plenty of time to sign up and we would love to have you participate in this event. You can sign up for the event by going to this link: https://go.rallyup.com/nabswalkathon just click the sign up button and follow the instructions. Now if you are having problems signing up please contact me at either 309 267 7670 or at my email which is cather.dustin a tgmail.com. I can plug in your information and get you the sharing link that you need. Once you have the link just share it on any social media platform. Again, we hope that if you are going to convention this year you would be willing to participate in this event. Having the opportunity to raise funds for this organization by doing something that we do everyday anyways is something that we cannot waste. Please do not hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions. Best,Dustin Cather  From nabs.president at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 14:25:29 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:25:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Agenda for the 2017 NABS Annual Seminar & Business Meeting Message-ID: <00a001d2e45d$5c030940$14091bc0$@gmail.com> Fellow students, The time is upon us. The National Association of Blind Students presents our 50th Annual Seminar & Business meeting, taking place on Tuesday, July 11 in conjunction with the National Federation of the Blind National Convention in Orlando, Florida. Attached, and pasted below for your convenience, you will find a jam packed agenda, full of exciting speakers and panelists. I encourage you to read through our agenda, but more importantly, preregister for this incredible seminar. Preregistering makes life easier on you, easier on the Board and those helping with registration, and allows you to stand in a shorter line during Convention. Doors open at 6pm and the meeting will begin promptly at 7pm. For your enjoyment, we will have music playing in our meeting room for the hour leading up to the welcoming remarks. Remember, to bring your $5 membership/registration dues, and to snag a door prize ticket. This year, we have great door prizes, ranging from electronics, to cash prizes, to delicious sweets, and so much more. Whether you follow us on social media, or will be joining us in Orlando, please make sure you learn about our 50th anniversary celebrations and engage in this great organization. NABS Business Meeting Preregistration See many of you in just under a month! Kathryn Webster President | National Association of Blind Students Nabs.president at gmail.com (203) 273-8463 Fifty Years of Progress: Celebrating Our Golden Anniversary National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the national Federation of the Blind Annual Seminar and Business Meeting Panzacola G-1, Rosen Shingle Creek Resort, Orlando, FL Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:00 - 7:00 pm REGISTRATION 7:00 - 7:05 pm Welcome and Call to Order - Kathryn Webster, President, National Association of Blind Students 7:05 - 7:20 pm Inspiring the Next Generation: A Message from Our National President - Mark A. Riccobono, President, National Federation of the Blind 7:20 - 7:25 pm Exploring Our World in a Different Way: Augmented Learning Using Aira - Suman Kanuganti, CEO, Aira 7:25 - 7:35 pm Life Lessons that Raise Expectations - Kathy Martinez, Senior Vice President, Disability Market Segment & Strategy, Wells Fargo Bank 7:35 - 7:45 pm What's in a Degree? Paving the Path for STEM Students - Dr. Jonathan Godfrey, Senior Lecturer of Statistics, Massey University; National President, Blind Citizens NZ 7:45 - 7:55 pm Advancing Advocacy: Dispatches from Our National Legal and Policy Team - Gabe Cazares, Government Affairs Specialist and Valerie Yingling, Legal Program Coordinator 7:55 - 8:00 pm Spreading the Spirit of the Federation from the Student Division and Beyond - Bre Brown, 1st Vice President, National Association of Blind Students 8:00 - 8:10 pm Why I'm A Federationist: A Personal Story - Anil Lewis, Executive Director, National Federation of the blind Jernigan Institute 8:10 - 8:40 pm Fifty Years of Progress: The History of NABS - A panel of past NABS presidents Moderator: Dr. Marc Maurer, Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind Jim Gashel, Founder, National Association of Blind Students Scott LaBarre, President, National Federation of the Blind of Colorado Tai Tomasi, Coordinator, LGBT Group 8:40 - 9:05 pm Meet Our 2017 Scholarship Class - Patti Chang, Chair, National Scholarship Committee 9:05 - 9:15 pm Presidential Report - Kathryn Webster, President, National Association of Blind Students 9:15 - 9:20 pm Treasurer's Report - Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, National Association of Blind Students 9:20 - 9:30 pm Report from Our 2017 Constitutional Revision Committee - Michael Ausbun, Chair, NABS Constitutional Revision Committee; Secretary, National Association of Blind Students 9:30 - 9:35 pm Text-to-Give Campaign Announcement - Sean Whalen, Representative, Imagination Fund Committee; Immediate Past President, National Association of Blind Students 9:35 - 9:40 pm Announcements 9:40 - 9:45 pm Report from Our 2017 Nominating Committee - Syed Rizvi, Chair, NABS Nominating Committee; 2nd Vice President, National Association of Blind Students 9:45 - 10:30 pm Elections 10:30 pm Adjournment -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2017 NABS Annual Seminar & Business meeting agenda.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 21643 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 15:59:52 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:59:52 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Agenda for the 2017 NABS Annual Seminar & Business Meeting In-Reply-To: <00a001d2e45d$5c030940$14091bc0$@gmail.com> References: <00a001d2e45d$5c030940$14091bc0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! The link to preregistration is broken! Could you send it again? Chelsea Peahl > On Jun 13, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L wrote: > > Fellow students, > > > > The time is upon us. The National Association of Blind > Students presents our 50th Annual Seminar & Business meeting, taking place > on Tuesday, July 11 in conjunction with the National Federation of the Blind > National Convention in Orlando, Florida. > > > > Attached, and pasted below for your convenience, you will find a jam packed > agenda, full of exciting speakers and panelists. I encourage you to read > through our agenda, but more importantly, preregister for this incredible > seminar. Preregistering makes life easier on you, easier on the Board and > those helping with registration, and allows you to stand in a shorter line > during Convention. Doors open at 6pm and the meeting will begin promptly at > 7pm. For your enjoyment, we will have music playing in our meeting room for > the hour leading up to the welcoming remarks. Remember, to bring your $5 > membership/registration dues, and to snag a door prize ticket. This year, we > have great door prizes, ranging from electronics, to cash prizes, to > delicious sweets, and so much more. > > > > Whether you follow us on social media, or will be joining us in Orlando, > please make sure you learn about our 50th anniversary celebrations and > engage in this great organization. > > > 0/edit?usp=sharing_eil&ts=592f0a68> NABS Business Meeting Preregistration > > > > See many of you in just under a month! > > Kathryn Webster > > President | National Association of Blind Students > > Nabs.president at gmail.com > > (203) 273-8463 > > > > > Fifty Years of Progress: Celebrating Our Golden Anniversary > > > National Association of Blind Students > > > A proud division of the national Federation of the Blind > > > Annual Seminar and Business Meeting > > > Panzacola G-1, Rosen Shingle Creek Resort, Orlando, FL > > Tuesday, July 11, 2017 > > > > 6:00 - 7:00 pm REGISTRATION > > 7:00 - 7:05 pm Welcome and Call to Order - Kathryn Webster, President, > National Association of Blind Students > > 7:05 - 7:20 pm Inspiring the Next Generation: A Message from Our National > President - Mark A. Riccobono, President, National Federation of the Blind > > 7:20 - 7:25 pm Exploring Our World in a Different Way: Augmented Learning > Using Aira - Suman Kanuganti, CEO, Aira > > 7:25 - 7:35 pm Life Lessons that Raise Expectations - Kathy Martinez, > Senior Vice President, Disability Market Segment & Strategy, Wells Fargo > Bank > > 7:35 - 7:45 pm What's in a Degree? Paving the Path for STEM Students - Dr. > Jonathan Godfrey, Senior Lecturer of Statistics, Massey University; National > President, Blind Citizens NZ > > 7:45 - 7:55 pm Advancing Advocacy: Dispatches from Our National Legal and > Policy Team - Gabe Cazares, Government Affairs Specialist and Valerie > Yingling, Legal Program Coordinator > > 7:55 - 8:00 pm Spreading the Spirit of the Federation from the Student > Division and Beyond - Bre Brown, 1st Vice President, National Association of > Blind Students > > 8:00 - 8:10 pm Why I'm A Federationist: A Personal Story - Anil Lewis, > Executive Director, National Federation of the blind Jernigan Institute > > 8:10 - 8:40 pm Fifty Years of Progress: The History of NABS - A panel of > past NABS presidents > > Moderator: Dr. Marc Maurer, Immediate Past President, National Federation of > the Blind > > Jim Gashel, Founder, National Association of Blind Students > > Scott LaBarre, President, National Federation of the Blind of Colorado > > Tai Tomasi, Coordinator, LGBT Group > > 8:40 - 9:05 pm Meet Our 2017 Scholarship Class - Patti Chang, Chair, > National Scholarship Committee > > 9:05 - 9:15 pm Presidential Report - Kathryn Webster, President, National > Association of Blind Students > > 9:15 - 9:20 pm Treasurer's Report - Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, National > Association of Blind Students > > 9:20 - 9:30 pm Report from Our 2017 Constitutional Revision Committee - > Michael Ausbun, Chair, NABS Constitutional Revision Committee; Secretary, > National Association of Blind Students > > 9:30 - 9:35 pm Text-to-Give Campaign Announcement - Sean Whalen, > Representative, Imagination Fund Committee; Immediate Past President, > National Association of Blind Students > > 9:35 - 9:40 pm Announcements > > 9:40 - 9:45 pm Report from Our 2017 Nominating Committee - Syed Rizvi, > Chair, NABS Nominating Committee; 2nd Vice President, National Association > of Blind Students > > 9:45 - 10:30 pm Elections > > 10:30 pm Adjournment > > > > <2017 NABS Annual Seminar & Business meeting agenda.docx> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 16:10:33 2017 From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:10:33 -1000 Subject: [nabs-l] Endorsing Michael Ausbun, a candidate who cares Message-ID: <366A622E-77C0-4C15-85C7-E6C6405C9600@gmail.com> Aloha students, I am eager to be the next NABS member endorsing Michael for the position of 1st Vice President of the national Association of Blind Students. I first was acquainted with Michael last year, during Washington Seminar. Although quite new to the Legislative process, Michael took on his role as the Legislative Director of the Nevada Affiliate in stride. As with everything else he does in life, Michael went all in. I have been extremely fortunate to see his growth as a leader over the past year and a half. Michael is the epitome of passionate toward our movement. he is a true ambassador for this great organization. As we all know, the role of 1st Vice President should go to the person whom the President relies on the most, no one deserves this title more than Michael Ausbun. President Webster and Michael work exceptionally well together from fundraising to legislation, and logistics to team building. It is obvious to all that their partnership in leadership is vibrant, communicative, fair, and genuine. Again, I am proud to endorse Michael, and I do hope you all join me in voting for this exceptional candidate during the Annual NABS Business Meeting on Tuesday evening at Convention. Your vote will go far in ensuring success for the National Association of Blind Students. See you in Orlando, Shannon KS Cantan Chair | NABS 50th Anniversary Planning Committee Co-Chair | NABS Fundraising Committee From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 16:56:41 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:56:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks Message-ID: <5940197c.d22b9d0a.6abbe.b883@mx.google.com> Hi Jamie Ann thanks for your message. I am so happy that you are moving into your own apartment. I am not sure how you would fill out your checks independently. Most bills these days can be paid online. From jty727 at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 18:03:28 2017 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 14:03:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Agenda for the 2017 NABS Annual Seminar & Business Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <00a001d2e45d$5c030940$14091bc0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello: I tried clicking on the registration link nd it took me to a page that said registration for this is closed and I should contact the creator of the form. Can someone still register using the link? It looks like a great agenda! Justin Young Doctorate of Education in Higher Education Administration student University of Rochester, New York On 6/13/17, chelsea peahl via NABS-L wrote: > Hi! > The link to preregistration is broken! Could you send it again? > > Chelsea Peahl > >> On Jun 13, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Fellow students, >> >> >> >> The time is upon us. The National Association of Blind >> Students presents our 50th Annual Seminar & Business meeting, taking >> place >> on Tuesday, July 11 in conjunction with the National Federation of the >> Blind >> National Convention in Orlando, Florida. >> >> >> >> Attached, and pasted below for your convenience, you will find a jam >> packed >> agenda, full of exciting speakers and panelists. I encourage you to read >> through our agenda, but more importantly, preregister for this incredible >> seminar. Preregistering makes life easier on you, easier on the Board and >> those helping with registration, and allows you to stand in a shorter >> line >> during Convention. Doors open at 6pm and the meeting will begin promptly >> at >> 7pm. For your enjoyment, we will have music playing in our meeting room >> for >> the hour leading up to the welcoming remarks. Remember, to bring your $5 >> membership/registration dues, and to snag a door prize ticket. This year, >> we >> have great door prizes, ranging from electronics, to cash prizes, to >> delicious sweets, and so much more. >> >> >> >> Whether you follow us on social media, or will be joining us in Orlando, >> please make sure you learn about our 50th anniversary celebrations and >> engage in this great organization. >> >> >> > 0/edit?usp=sharing_eil&ts=592f0a68> NABS Business Meeting Preregistration >> >> >> >> See many of you in just under a month! >> >> Kathryn Webster >> >> President | National Association of Blind Students >> >> Nabs.president at gmail.com >> >> (203) 273-8463 >> >> >> >> >> Fifty Years of Progress: Celebrating Our Golden Anniversary >> >> >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> >> A proud division of the national Federation of the Blind >> >> >> Annual Seminar and Business Meeting >> >> >> Panzacola G-1, Rosen Shingle Creek Resort, Orlando, FL >> >> Tuesday, July 11, 2017 >> >> >> >> 6:00 - 7:00 pm REGISTRATION >> >> 7:00 - 7:05 pm Welcome and Call to Order - Kathryn Webster, President, >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> 7:05 - 7:20 pm Inspiring the Next Generation: A Message from Our >> National >> President - Mark A. Riccobono, President, National Federation of the >> Blind >> >> 7:20 - 7:25 pm Exploring Our World in a Different Way: Augmented >> Learning >> Using Aira - Suman Kanuganti, CEO, Aira >> >> 7:25 - 7:35 pm Life Lessons that Raise Expectations - Kathy Martinez, >> Senior Vice President, Disability Market Segment & Strategy, Wells Fargo >> Bank >> >> 7:35 - 7:45 pm What's in a Degree? Paving the Path for STEM Students - >> Dr. >> Jonathan Godfrey, Senior Lecturer of Statistics, Massey University; >> National >> President, Blind Citizens NZ >> >> 7:45 - 7:55 pm Advancing Advocacy: Dispatches from Our National Legal >> and >> Policy Team - Gabe Cazares, Government Affairs Specialist and Valerie >> Yingling, Legal Program Coordinator >> >> 7:55 - 8:00 pm Spreading the Spirit of the Federation from the Student >> Division and Beyond - Bre Brown, 1st Vice President, National Association >> of >> Blind Students >> >> 8:00 - 8:10 pm Why I'm A Federationist: A Personal Story - Anil Lewis, >> Executive Director, National Federation of the blind Jernigan Institute >> >> 8:10 - 8:40 pm Fifty Years of Progress: The History of NABS - A panel >> of >> past NABS presidents >> >> Moderator: Dr. Marc Maurer, Immediate Past President, National Federation >> of >> the Blind >> >> Jim Gashel, Founder, National Association of Blind Students >> >> Scott LaBarre, President, National Federation of the Blind of Colorado >> >> Tai Tomasi, Coordinator, LGBT Group >> >> 8:40 - 9:05 pm Meet Our 2017 Scholarship Class - Patti Chang, Chair, >> National Scholarship Committee >> >> 9:05 - 9:15 pm Presidential Report - Kathryn Webster, President, >> National >> Association of Blind Students >> >> 9:15 - 9:20 pm Treasurer's Report - Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, National >> Association of Blind Students >> >> 9:20 - 9:30 pm Report from Our 2017 Constitutional Revision Committee - >> Michael Ausbun, Chair, NABS Constitutional Revision Committee; Secretary, >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> 9:30 - 9:35 pm Text-to-Give Campaign Announcement - Sean Whalen, >> Representative, Imagination Fund Committee; Immediate Past President, >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> 9:35 - 9:40 pm Announcements >> >> 9:40 - 9:45 pm Report from Our 2017 Nominating Committee - Syed Rizvi, >> Chair, NABS Nominating Committee; 2nd Vice President, National >> Association >> of Blind Students >> >> 9:45 - 10:30 pm Elections >> >> 10:30 pm Adjournment >> >> >> >> <2017 NABS Annual Seminar & Business meeting agenda.docx> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jty727%40gmail.com > From Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu Tue Jun 13 18:49:32 2017 From: Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte (Student)) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:49:32 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration Link for NABS Business Meeting Message-ID: Greetings NABS, I have been contacted several times regarding the preregistration form for the NABS Business meeting. I am unsure why the link is working for some, and not for others but here is the link again. If you continue to have problems please do the following... 1. Try to open the link on a device other than your mobile phone. 2. If you have another web browser such as Google Chrome, please try opening it in that. 3. If these two alternatives do not work for you please send me an email at bjduarte at asu.edu and I will help you figure it out. I apologize for the inconvenience and hope this helps. https://goo.gl/forms/NS3aRJ2Bqn7hQqsV2 Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From mikgephart at icloud.com Tue Jun 13 19:40:48 2017 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:40:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Vee Gaspa for NABS 1st Vice President Message-ID: <753BCB16-987A-41C4-A51B-1702EF32F91D@icloud.com> Hi all, I hope you are all looking forward to national convention, and the NABS Business Meeting in particular. With national convention comes elections, national board elections, NABS board elections, and other division elections. With all these things going on, I wanted to take the time to share with the membership why I think Vee Gaspa should be voted 1st Vice President. When my family moved to North Carolina from New Jersey in June of 2015, the two things my parents promised me were that we would come back to NJ for my favorite summer camp that I have attended since I was 7 years old, and that we would attend the 2015 NFBNJ state convention. While I was at the state convention, I met Vee Gaspa, who had relocated to NJ to attend college. We had a few quick meetings, but I really got to see her dedication to our movement firsthand at the NJABS meeting. At this meeting, she was running for the office of President of the New Jersey Association of Blind Students (NJABS.) I could tell from the start that Vee was dedicated to our movement, and had some great ideas of her own. After convention, I reached out to Vee to let her know that even though I am currently in NC, I am always a phone call, text, or email away. It can be daunting taking over a division when you are still new to the area, but Vee has taken it all in stride. Since than, I have attended a few NJABS conference calls, and I have not been let down. At that first NJABS meeting, a few of our previous leaders said that we had not had a student seminar in a while and it would be great to have another one. Vee has organized people from different states to create student seminars. I have not been able to attend any of the seminars, but the ideas seemed like good ones. The first seminar that Vee put together was at the College of New Jersey, and was hosted by a few other states as well. The second one was at the NFB national center, and it looked like a great event as well. We have two great candidates running, but Vee Gaspa has came so far in these past two years, and we need to encourage her and help her to go further and further, and bring NABS, NJABS, the NFB of NJ, and the NFB as an organization with her as she travels further and further in her leadership, mentorship, and in “changing what it means to be blind.” While I am a North Carolina resident, I consider myself a “Member at Heart (MAH) of the NFBNJ and of NJABS. Even if I did not have the connection of being from NJ, I still would strongly believe that she would be a great NABS 1st Vice President. Thank you for your consideration, and I can not wait to see you all in Orlando. Yours in the movement, Mikayla Gephart Member of the NFB of NC and the North Carolina Association of Blind Students Member At Heart of NJABS and the NFBNJ From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 21:00:16 2017 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 21:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] An Endorsement for Michael Ausbun References: <253937415.1556046.1497387616650.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <253937415.1556046.1497387616650@mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Students, I write to you today with a heart full of pride and hope for our organizations future. As the National Association of Blind Students pushes on into our 50th year of existence. Our leaders in which, are molded from what this organizations philosophy grow into productive and inspirational humans in society. One leader who has a proven record of commitment and knowledge of what exactly our organization is about is Mr. Michael Ausbun. Michael is running for the position of First Vice President of NABS. A position that Michael understands that he has to earn. Michael is willing to work very hard to earn your trust in him to serve in this role.  Throughout his time with the organization, Michael has worked hard to push for the equal opportunity for blind students to achieve their goals in the realm of post-secondary education. His understanding of the legislation that will affect so many blind students is a feat to which one should be commended for. Michael in this role will work great with our President, Kathryn Webster. A key part to any organization is a leadership team who can work together well to solve problems to the people to whom they represent. I believe that Michael will do such in this capacity.  For those considering being apart of the student division electorate at this year's convention. I would like for you to get a chance to talk to Michael, as I know he will be more than willing to talk to you. Getting to know your candidate is important to understand how NABS will be moving forward. Your vote is a crucial part of how this organizations future will play out. My endorsement of Michael Ausbun comes with no reservations, as I think he will be the most qualified and compassionate person for this position. I hope that you will think so too. Thank you,Dustin Cather From wmodnl at hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 21:52:06 2017 From: wmodnl at hotmail.com (wmodnl wmodnl) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 21:52:06 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: <5940197c.d22b9d0a.6abbe.b883@mx.google.com> References: <5940197c.d22b9d0a.6abbe.b883@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hey, I use those online check things like, what is offered by many major banks. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 13, 2017, at 12:58, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Jamie Ann thanks for your message. I am so happy that you are moving into your own apartment. I am not sure how you would fill out your checks independently. Most bills these days can be paid online. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com From jameyanne at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 22:17:50 2017 From: jameyanne at gmail.com (Jameyanne Fuller) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:17:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] writing checks In-Reply-To: References: <5940197c.d22b9d0a.6abbe.b883@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <015201d2e492$e5a3ef90$b0ebceb0$@gmail.com> Thanks for your help, everyone. I'll check to see if my bank does the online check writing option. Otherwise I'll look into these other suggestions. Best, Jameyanne -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of wmodnl wmodnl via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:52 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: wmodnl wmodnl Subject: Re: [nabs-l] writing checks Hey, I use those online check things like, what is offered by many major banks. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 13, 2017, at 12:58, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Jamie Ann thanks for your message. I am so happy that you are moving into your own apartment. I am not sure how you would fill out your checks independently. Most bills these days can be paid online. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/wmodnl%40hotmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com From nmabspresident1 at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 00:15:36 2017 From: nmabspresident1 at gmail.com (nmabspresident1 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:15:36 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] New Mexico Association of Blind Students (NAMBS) Greetings! Message-ID: <59408029.4522240a.287cb.e8b1@mx.google.com> My name is Kaity Ellis, President of the New Mexico Association of Blind Students (NAMBS). Let me tell you about myself. I just recently graduated with my bachelor’s degree in social work, and will be going for my Master’s this fall. I joined the NFB in 2013. I love being a part of such an amazing organization. A fun fact to know about me. I have been in student government since 2nd grade, and just recently retired from it as a senior in college . I love helping people fight for their rights, in other words I love politics. I one day hope to become a U.S. senator. That’s enough about me. I would like to give some information to you all about the New Mexico Association. We have an official Facebook page https://m.facebook.com/NMABS1/ Please go like our page and share with your friends. That way you can be in the know about everything going on in the New Mexico Association. Please feel free to contact me about anything. My contact information is at the bottom of this email. Best, Kaity! New Mexico Association for Blind Students Division President: Kaity Ellis Phone: (575-694-4299 Mailing Address: PO. BOX 163 Deming New Mexico Live the life you want!~ National Federation of the Blind. From dandrews at visi.com Wed Jun 14 00:41:18 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 19:41:18 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Looking for 1 more roommate for National NFB convention Message-ID: > >Hello, >I am looking for 1 more person to add to the hotel room for National >NFB convention. There is currently 3 guys sharing room and we would >like to have one more person to add to the room so then be 4 people >in the room sharing and splitting the cost of the room 4 ways. We >have the room from Sunday July 9 to Monday July 17. If you could >send out to lists or any other way to let people know. >Thanks >Jacob Struiksma >206-387-7736 >jacobstruiksma at gmail.com > From somojan94 at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 06:00:01 2017 From: somojan94 at gmail.com (Somaya Tarin) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 23:00:01 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Roommates for convention Message-ID: <9BCAC3C9-80A2-46DD-87A5-8488CDDE1B1D@gmail.com> Good evening NABS, My name is Somaya and I am from Arizona. I am looking for roommates for convention. I am looking for female only. If anyone still needs a roommate please let me know. You can send me an email at somojan94 at gmail.com. Thank you and i hope to see most of you in Orlando! Regards, Somaya Tarin Sent from my iPhone From nabs.president at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 16:08:15 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 12:08:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] New Mexico Association of Blind Students (NAMBS) Greetings! In-Reply-To: <59408029.4522240a.287cb.e8b1@mx.google.com> References: <59408029.4522240a.287cb.e8b1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <01cd01d2e528$72bd8040$583880c0$@gmail.com> Kaity, congratulations on your recent election as the New Mexico student division President! I am excited to see what you do as the leader of such a great organization. Thank you, too, for sharing with us the whereabouts of our New Mexico students. Please do reach out to the NABS Board if we can help with any planning as we approach National Convention, as well as any guidance necessary in improving and expanding your division. I look forward to getting to know you, Kathryn Webster -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NMABS President via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:16 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: nmabspresident1 at gmail.com Subject: [nabs-l] New Mexico Association of Blind Students (NAMBS) Greetings! My name is Kaity Ellis, President of the New Mexico Association of Blind Students (NAMBS). Let me tell you about myself. I just recently graduated with my bachelor’s degree in social work, and will be going for my Master’s this fall. I joined the NFB in 2013. I love being a part of such an amazing organization. A fun fact to know about me. I have been in student government since 2nd grade, and just recently retired from it as a senior in college . I love helping people fight for their rights, in other words I love politics. I one day hope to become a U.S. senator. That’s enough about me. I would like to give some information to you all about the New Mexico Association. We have an official Facebook page https://m.facebook.com/NMABS1/ Please go like our page and share with your friends. That way you can be in the know about everything going on in the New Mexico Association. Please feel free to contact me about anything. My contact information is at the bottom of this email. Best, Kaity! New Mexico Association for Blind Students Division President: Kaity Ellis Phone: (575-694-4299 Mailing Address: PO. BOX 163 Deming New Mexico Live the life you want!~ National Federation of the Blind. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 20:04:05 2017 From: jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com (Jason Polansky) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:04:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Vee Gaspa for Nabs Vice President Message-ID: <172B47D7-A888-4A03-99EA-57F1FFDA5461@gmail.com> Good afternoon to all Nabs members. I hope you all are having a productive summer. It is my honor to endorse my friend Vee Gaspa for vice president of the National Association of Blind Students. I have known Vee for a little over a year, and I have seen her leadership in action. The weekend before last, blind students from Maryland, Virginia, New Jersey, and New York gathered at the Jernigan Institute in Baltimore for a productive seminar in which Vee was the key organizer. I saw her enthusiasticly welcoming everyone, outlining the basic rules, and encouraging everyone to network. Vee is hard-working and passionate about the philosophy of the Federation, but also enthusiastic and personable. She has worked to increase active membership in the New Jersey student division and in several other states, hence qualified for this position. Yours in the movement, From veegaspa at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 20:38:44 2017 From: veegaspa at gmail.com (Rock Chick17) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:38:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Vee Gaspa for NABS 1st Vice President In-Reply-To: <753BCB16-987A-41C4-A51B-1702EF32F91D@icloud.com> References: <753BCB16-987A-41C4-A51B-1702EF32F91D@icloud.com> Message-ID: <09CF9181-D7F4-4E12-8BD6-B36D9C76D9E9@gmail.com> Hey Mikayla, I am honored to have your support and it has been so amazing working with you. I'm glad I have known you since I started my Federation work in New Jersey. I can't wait to see you at convention! Best, Vee Gaspa Vee Gaspa New Jersey Association of Blind Students, President National Association of Blind Students, board member Intern, National Federation of the Blind Phone, 410-659-9314 ext-2525 > On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > I hope you are all looking forward to national convention, and the NABS Business Meeting in particular. With national convention comes elections, national board elections, NABS board elections, and other division elections. With all these things going on, I wanted to take the time to share with the membership why I think Vee Gaspa should be voted 1st Vice President. When my family moved to North Carolina from New Jersey in June of 2015, the two things my parents promised me were that we would come back to NJ for my favorite summer camp that I have attended since I was 7 years old, and that we would attend the 2015 NFBNJ state convention. While I was at the state convention, I met Vee Gaspa, who had relocated to NJ to attend college. We had a few quick meetings, but I really got to see her dedication to our movement firsthand at the NJABS meeting. At this meeting, she was running for the office of President of the New Jersey Association of Blind Students (NJABS.) I could tell from the start that Vee was dedicated to our movement, and had some great ideas of her own. After convention, I reached out to Vee to let her know that even though I am currently in NC, I am always a phone call, text, or email away. It can be daunting taking over a division when you are still new to the area, but Vee has taken it all in stride. Since than, I have attended a few NJABS conference calls, and I have not been let down. At that first NJABS meeting, a few of our previous leaders said that we had not had a student seminar in a while and it would be great to have another one. Vee has organized people from different states to create student seminars. I have not been able to attend any of the seminars, but the ideas seemed like good ones. The first seminar that Vee put together was at the College of New Jersey, and was hosted by a few other states as well. The second one was at the NFB national center, and it looked like a great event as well. We have two great candidates running, but Vee Gaspa has came so far in these past two years, and we need to encourage her and help her to go further and further, and bring NABS, NJABS, the NFB of NJ, and the NFB as an organization with her as she travels further and further in her leadership, mentorship, and in “changing what it means to be blind.” While I am a North Carolina resident, I consider myself a “Member at Heart (MAH) of the NFBNJ and of NJABS. Even if I did not have the connection of being from NJ, I still would strongly believe that she would be a great NABS 1st Vice President. Thank you for your consideration, and I can not wait to see you all in Orlando. > Yours in the movement, > Mikayla Gephart > Member of the NFB of NC and the North Carolina Association of Blind Students > Member At Heart of NJABS and the NFBNJ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veegaspa%40gmail.com From veegaspa at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 20:40:49 2017 From: veegaspa at gmail.com (Rock Chick17) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:40:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Vee Gaspa for Nabs Vice President In-Reply-To: <172B47D7-A888-4A03-99EA-57F1FFDA5461@gmail.com> References: <172B47D7-A888-4A03-99EA-57F1FFDA5461@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6916E704-712B-420F-884D-05194AA98991@gmail.com> Hey Jason, It has been a pleasure getting to know you and working with you for the past year or so. Thank you very much for your support, I can't wait to continue our work and friendship in the future! Best, Vee Gaspa Vee Gaspa New Jersey Association of Blind Students, President National Association of Blind Students, board member Intern, National Federation of the Blind Phone, 410-659-9314 ext-2525 > On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jason Polansky via NABS-L wrote: > > Good afternoon to all Nabs members. I hope you all are having a productive summer. It is my honor to endorse my friend Vee Gaspa for vice president of the National Association of Blind Students. I have known Vee for a little over a year, and I have seen her leadership in action. The weekend before last, blind students from Maryland, Virginia, New Jersey, and New York gathered at the Jernigan Institute in Baltimore for a productive seminar in which Vee was the key organizer. I saw her enthusiasticly welcoming everyone, outlining the basic rules, and encouraging everyone to network. Vee is hard-working and passionate about the philosophy of the Federation, but also enthusiastic and personable. She has worked to increase active membership in the New Jersey student division and in several other states, hence qualified for this position. > > Yours in the movement, > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/veegaspa%40gmail.com From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 21:02:36 2017 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:02:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Writing A Constitution Message-ID: <00e301d2e551$8d4a8ab0$a7dfa010$@gmail.com> Greetings NABS I hope all of you are well. I am in the middle of writing a constitution for a school organization I am starting in the Fall semester and I am a bit stuck on the section pertaining to proxy voting. Can someone give me an understanding of what that is and preferred ways of dealing with it in terms of a chapter or organization? Thanks in Advance Robert E. Parsons Jr. President, Richmond Chapter President, Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia Randolph Macon College '18 Phone: 804 200 3275 "Without struggle, there is no progress." -Frederick Douglass From tyler at tysdomain.com Wed Jun 14 21:16:16 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:16:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Writing A Constitution In-Reply-To: <00e301d2e551$8d4a8ab0$a7dfa010$@gmail.com> References: <00e301d2e551$8d4a8ab0$a7dfa010$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3ab83fc9-fb6f-4cc3-d238-610b61954b22@tysdomain.com> Robert: Proxy voting basically allows people to vote on things like amendments, and board positions without being present. It is my experience that it's really difficult to set up and get right, it unbalances elections and should generally be avoided so as to not create a popularity contest. If people want to vote for officer positions, I pretty strongly believe they should be present to do so. HTH, On 6/14/2017 5:02 PM, Robert Parsons via NABS-L wrote: > Greetings NABS > > > > I hope all of you are well. I am in the middle of writing a constitution for > a school organization I am starting in the Fall semester and I am a bit > stuck on the section pertaining to proxy voting. Can someone give me an > understanding of what that is and preferred ways of dealing with it in terms > of a chapter or organization? > > > > Thanks in Advance > > > > Robert E. Parsons Jr. > > President, Richmond Chapter > > President, Virginia Association of Blind Students > > National Federation of the Blind of Virginia > > Randolph Macon College '18 > > Phone: 804 200 3275 > > "Without struggle, there is no progress." -Frederick Douglass > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 21:37:51 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:37:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Submit Your Questions for Our Vice Presidential Candidates Now! Message-ID: <002401d2e556$7af1c9a0$70d55ce0$@gmail.com> Fellow NABSters: This week I am recording interviews with Michael Ausbun and Vee Gaspa, the two candidates for the office of First Vice President of the National Association of Blind Students. Unfortunately, due to technical difficulties which are currently besetting us at KJSC Radio, these interviews will have to be prerecorded and aired next Tuesday, June 20. However, we still want to make sure your questions are answered by the candidates. So, please submit your questions ASAP by emailing me at chris at kjscradio.com . Though we can't guarantee that we can get to all questions, we'll get to as many as we can during the time we have. I hope you'll let your voice be heard by submitting your questions today! Best, Chris Nusbaum, Host The Blind Side KJSC Radio From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 21:45:19 2017 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:45:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Writing A Constitution In-Reply-To: <3ab83fc9-fb6f-4cc3-d238-610b61954b22@tysdomain.com> References: <00e301d2e551$8d4a8ab0$a7dfa010$@gmail.com> <3ab83fc9-fb6f-4cc3-d238-610b61954b22@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: <8FB6076C-0677-4735-9E89-4DF9E2128914@gmail.com> Tyler Thank you so much. I will take your advice on this issue. Best. Robert Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > Robert: > Proxy voting basically allows people to vote on things like amendments, and board positions without being present. > It is my experience that it's really difficult to set up and get right, it unbalances elections and should generally be avoided so as to not create a popularity contest. If people want to vote for officer positions, I pretty strongly believe they should be present to do so. > > HTH, >> On 6/14/2017 5:02 PM, Robert Parsons via NABS-L wrote: >> Greetings NABS >> >> >> >> I hope all of you are well. I am in the middle of writing a constitution for >> a school organization I am starting in the Fall semester and I am a bit >> stuck on the section pertaining to proxy voting. Can someone give me an >> understanding of what that is and preferred ways of dealing with it in terms >> of a chapter or organization? >> >> >> >> Thanks in Advance >> >> >> >> Robert E. Parsons Jr. >> >> President, Richmond Chapter >> >> President, Virginia Association of Blind Students >> >> National Federation of the Blind of Virginia >> >> Randolph Macon College '18 >> >> Phone: 804 200 3275 >> >> "Without struggle, there is no progress." -Frederick Douglass >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > -- > Take Care, > Tyler Littlefield > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From rexschuttler at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 21:58:58 2017 From: rexschuttler at gmail.com (Rex Schuttler) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:58:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Submit Your Questions for Our Vice Presidential Candidates Now! In-Reply-To: <002401d2e556$7af1c9a0$70d55ce0$@gmail.com> References: <002401d2e556$7af1c9a0$70d55ce0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Are you going to send out a way for us to listen to them once they are up in broadcasting? Rex Schuttler Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma cell phone number 918-955-6761 > On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L wrote: > > Fellow NABSters: > > > > This week I am recording interviews with Michael Ausbun and Vee Gaspa, the > two candidates for the office of First Vice President of the National > Association of Blind Students. Unfortunately, due to technical difficulties > which are currently besetting us at KJSC Radio, these interviews will have > to be prerecorded and aired next Tuesday, June 20. However, we still want to > make sure your questions are answered by the candidates. So, please submit > your questions ASAP by emailing me at chris at kjscradio.com > . Though we can't guarantee that we can get to > all questions, we'll get to as many as we can during the time we have. I > hope you'll let your voice be heard by submitting your questions today! > > > > Best, > > > > Chris Nusbaum, Host > > The Blind Side > > KJSC Radio > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gmail.com From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Wed Jun 14 22:22:52 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 18:22:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Writing A Constitution In-Reply-To: <00e301d2e551$8d4a8ab0$a7dfa010$@gmail.com> References: <00e301d2e551$8d4a8ab0$a7dfa010$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002b01d2e55c$c52f0270$4f8d0750$@sarahblakelarose.com> Proxy voting means that someone who is in attendance votes on behalf of someone who is not in attendance. Sarah Blake LaRose http://www.sarahblakelarose.com Accessible instruction in Biblical languages -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Parsons via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:03 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Robert Parsons Subject: [nabs-l] Writing A Constitution Greetings NABS I hope all of you are well. I am in the middle of writing a constitution for a school organization I am starting in the Fall semester and I am a bit stuck on the section pertaining to proxy voting. Can someone give me an understanding of what that is and preferred ways of dealing with it in terms of a chapter or organization? Thanks in Advance Robert E. Parsons Jr. President, Richmond Chapter President, Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia Randolph Macon College '18 Phone: 804 200 3275 "Without struggle, there is no progress." -Frederick Douglass _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 22:26:44 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 18:26:44 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Submit Your Questions for Our Vice Presidential Candidates Now! In-Reply-To: References: <002401d2e556$7af1c9a0$70d55ce0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00aa01d2e55d$4ea8f2e0$ebfad8a0$@gmail.com> Rex: We will. I'll be travelling when the show airs, but I've asked my producer to advertise the show on my behalf. Stay tuned. Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rex Schuttler via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:59 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Rex Schuttler Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Submit Your Questions for Our Vice Presidential Candidates Now! Are you going to send out a way for us to listen to them once they are up in broadcasting? Rex Schuttler Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma cell phone number 918-955-6761 > On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L wrote: > > Fellow NABSters: > > > > This week I am recording interviews with Michael Ausbun and Vee Gaspa, > the two candidates for the office of First Vice President of the > National Association of Blind Students. Unfortunately, due to > technical difficulties which are currently besetting us at KJSC Radio, > these interviews will have to be prerecorded and aired next Tuesday, > June 20. However, we still want to make sure your questions are > answered by the candidates. So, please submit your questions ASAP by > emailing me at chris at kjscradio.com . > Though we can't guarantee that we can get to all questions, we'll get > to as many as we can during the time we have. I hope you'll let your voice be heard by submitting your questions today! > > > > Best, > > > > Chris Nusbaum, Host > > The Blind Side > > KJSC Radio > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gma > il.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 00:11:18 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:11:18 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Occupational Outlook Handbook Message-ID: <5941d0a7.c342630a.fb4f.4d9f@mx.google.com> Hi All, I was wondering if any of you know if rehab counsellors tend to use the Occupational Outlook Handbook when helping clients find jobs, or if they use any other sources as well. I used to be under the impression that this was the main source they used, but in looking at the statistics, I'm not so sure. For example, a rehab counselor would get lots of support from the DOR, but there is only a 9 percent increase in growth rate, compared to psychologists at 19 percent and speech therapists at 21 percent. Does anyone know? Thanks, Vejas From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jun 15 02:16:53 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 21:16:53 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Announcing the release of version 3.0 of Sendero's iPhone GPS apps Message-ID: > >Announcing the release of version 3.0 of Sendero's iPhone GPS apps: >. Seeing Eye GPS (subscription in North America), > >. RNIB Navigator (subscription in the UK, Ireland, France and >Germany), > >. Guide Dogs NSW/ACT (subscription in Australia), > >. Seeing Eye GPS XT (no subscription) - $100 off, limited time >promotional price $199! > >Davis, CA > >June 14, 2017 > > > >Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a >federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living >and Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the >Sendero version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user >interface and Uber compatibility! > >Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest >with your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then >click on the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the >new version. > >What's New in Version 3.0 > >1. Added Waypoint Routes, similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that >are in our other Sendero GPS products. All you have to do to create a >Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way. >Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or >campus. > >2. Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching >for POIs more streamlined. You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture >(double tap, hold and release on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI >Search Screen to search for a specific POI or a POI category. Unless you >select a category, the search will be in All categories. > >3. If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or >cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source. Your default >POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI search. You >can set your default POI Source in General Settings. > >4. Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen, >as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of >Disability, Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research. Beacon coverage >is limited to a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey. We will be >working to expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned! > >5. Added Uber to Route type options. The app will send your location >and destination to Uber so that you can schedule an Uber ride. > >6. Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity, you can now >choose Hard, Medium or Off. > >Countries and regions available as of 2017: > >USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, >Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey >and Israel. > >As always, make the most of your phone's portable convenient functionality >by using it in conjunction with Sendero Maps on the PC, on the Apex or on >the Braille Sense to explore and familiarize yourself with an area. Find the >iPhone apps in the App Store and the other Sendero products at >http://senderogroup.com/products/shop.html#GPS > >There is no telephone technical support for Sendero iPhone apps so use the >Frequently Asked Questions > >section to address most items. Send suggestions or questions not addressed >by the FAQs > to >iphone at senderogroup.com. > >There is a link to the updated version 3.0 Seeing Eye GPST manual from >inside the program. You can find it at User Guide > > >To purchase the Sendero iPhone GPS apps, go to iTunes, the subscription >versions are free to download, but when you launch for the first time you >will be prompted to select the one-month free trial or a subscription plan >for either one-year or 30-day unless. The non-subscription version, Seeing >Eye GPS XT, requires a purchase before you download. > > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >Contact Sendero Group: >http://www.senderogroup.com >Phone: 1-888-757-6810 > >Change Subscription Status: >http://www.senderogroup.com/social_media/whysendero.htm > >Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to >whysenderogps-request at freelists.org with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Thu Jun 15 02:28:13 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 21:28:13 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Occupational Outlook Handbook In-Reply-To: <5941d0a7.c342630a.fb4f.4d9f@mx.google.com> References: <5941d0a7.c342630a.fb4f.4d9f@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000c01d2e57f$0a6c9060$1f45b120$@nevada.unr.edu> Hey there Vejas, I do not know the answer to your question; however, I am interested in this information as well. Where did you get your statistics? Hope all is well with you! Best, Michael Ausbun, Secretary National Association of Blind Students -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:11 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: [nabs-l] Occupational Outlook Handbook Hi All, I was wondering if any of you know if rehab counsellors tend to use the Occupational Outlook Handbook when helping clients find jobs, or if they use any other sources as well. I used to be under the impression that this was the main source they used, but in looking at the statistics, I'm not so sure. For example, a rehab counselor would get lots of support from the DOR, but there is only a 9 percent increase in growth rate, compared to psychologists at 19 percent and speech therapists at 21 percent. Does anyone know? Thanks, Vejas _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jun 15 02:26:37 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 21:26:37 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [BANA-Announce] Survey on Quotation Marks & Apostrophes in UEB - Deadline Extended to July 31st Message-ID: > >The UEB Code Maintenance Committee is seeking opinions on a possible >change to the representation of single quotation marks and apostrophes in UEB. > >An explanatory document (in print and braille) and survey link are >located on the ICEB home page at www.iceb.org. > >Please spread the word of the survey through your local listservs, >social media, newsletters, meetings and word-of-mouth. > >It is important that we reach as many people as possible. Adults who >read a lot of electronic braille, adults who read mainly hard copy >braille, teachers of children learning braille and braille >transcribers are all likely to hold different opinions and their >voices need to be heard. Moreover, there is a big difference in the >predominance of single quotation marks in print across countries. > >The survey has been extended and will stay open until July 31st. > >The Code Maintenance Committee (CMC) of the International Council on >English Braille (ICEB) would like your input on possible changes to >the braille representation of single quotation marks and the >apostrophe to facilitate translation and reading on electronic >braille devices. The explanatory document gives an explanation of >the problem and the options under consideration. (Thanks to James >Bowden, UK, and Leona Holloway, Australia, for their work on this.) > >After reading the information, please complete the survey at > >www.surveymonkey.com/r/UEB-apostrophe [1] > >to indicate your preference. The CMC will use the results of the >survey to guide their decision on this issue. > >The survey will be available until the end of June. If necessary, >this time frame may be extended. > >Please share this message with any colleagues who may be interested >(with apologies for all the cross-postings I hope this will generate). > >Thanks for your attention to this issue. > >With best regards, > >Phyllis Landon >ICEB Code Maintenance Officer > >Links: >------ >[1] http://webmail.anchor.net.au/www.surveymonkey.com/r/UEB-apostrophe >_______________________________________________ >BANA-Announce mailing list >BANA-Announce at brailleauthority.org >http://www.brailleauthority.org/mailman/listinfo/bana-announce >_______________________________________________ >BANA-Announce mailing list >BANA-Announce at brailleauthority.org >http://www.brailleauthority.org/mailman/listinfo/bana-announce From troubleclark at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 20:33:33 2017 From: troubleclark at gmail.com (Nathan Clark) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:33:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president Message-ID: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. Sincerely, Nathan Clark Nathan Clark From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:29:40 2017 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 21:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> Hey Nathan, It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. Best.Dustin Cather On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. Sincerely, Nathan Clark Nathan Clark _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40yahoo.com From VGaspa at nfb.org Thu Jun 15 21:47:55 2017 From: VGaspa at nfb.org (Gaspa, Vee) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 21:47:55 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Nate for your overwhelming support and wonderful friendship. It has been fantastic getting to know you as a leader and friend over the past year. I look forward to continuing our friendship and leadership experiences in the future. Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Clark via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 4:34 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Nathan Clark Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. Sincerely, Nathan Clark Nathan Clark _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu Thu Jun 15 23:22:15 2017 From: Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte (Student)) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 23:22:15 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Blog Post For The Month Of June Message-ID: <5851DC46-F89C-489F-9A4F-B59116513CB9@asu.edu> From the Editor: Kathryn Webster serves as the president of the National Association of Blind Students, a proud division of the national Federation of the blind. Prior to Kathryn’s presidency, she served as the Secretary/Treasurer of NABS, on the Connecticut Affiliate Board, and as President of the North Carolina Association of Blind Students. This past May, President Webster graduated from Wake Forest University, with a Bachelor of Science degree in Data Analytics and Computer Science.The determination and leadership displayed by Miss Webster is second to none. Months before beginning her career at one of the top consulting firms in the world, she is spending her summer teaching technology to blind students at BLIND Inc., one of our National Federation of the Blind training centers. Join me in reading this month’s blog post written by a true Federationist as she discusses emotions gathered during and after National Convention. If you have any questions or comments please contact Bryan at: bjduarte at asu.edu http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-blog-month-june-federation-family Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From lily2011a at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 00:17:48 2017 From: lily2011a at gmail.com (lily2011a at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 18:17:48 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Herbelists? In-Reply-To: <17E4D970-1D27-48B7-B3CA-6AF45140E4E5@gmail.com> References: <17E4D970-1D27-48B7-B3CA-6AF45140E4E5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Kendra, I know many herbalist but they're not blind. I am blind and I am completing a holistic health program. I've been working at an herbalist shop. Perhaps, I can give you some insight. Email me and we can set up a time to chat if you would like. Blessings, Lily Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2017, at 7:55 PM, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all! > I'm looking for a blind herbelist to contact. I'm looking into studdying herbelism myself and I'd like to pick the brain of one to learn more about what it's like for a blind herbelist. I got wind of one on the hortorculture list but they have gone into the woodwork and I never got wind that they came back out of the woodwork. Does anyone know of a blind herbelist that I could contact? Thank you!!! > > > > Blessed be!!! > Kendra Schaber > National Federation of the Blind > "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown > > Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone Se. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lily2011a%40gmail.com From redwing731 at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 00:26:46 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 17:26:46 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Herbelists? In-Reply-To: References: <17E4D970-1D27-48B7-B3CA-6AF45140E4E5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <607D6C58-C0E4-43EC-852B-B5A51377C416@gmail.com> Hi! That sounds good!!! When is a good time to set up a chat? You can reach me at the following: Phone: 971-599-9991 My E mail: Redwing731 at gmail.com I look forward to hearing from you!!! Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. > On Jun 15, 2017, at 17:17, Asadullina via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Kendra, I know many herbalist but they're not blind. I am blind and I am completing a holistic health program. I've been working at an herbalist shop. Perhaps, I can give you some insight. Email me and we can set up a time to chat if you would like. > Blessings, > Lily > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2017, at 7:55 PM, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> I'm looking for a blind herbelist to contact. I'm looking into studdying herbelism myself and I'd like to pick the brain of one to learn more about what it's like for a blind herbelist. I got wind of one on the hortorculture list but they have gone into the woodwork and I never got wind that they came back out of the woodwork. Does anyone know of a blind herbelist that I could contact? Thank you!!! >> >> >> >> Blessed be!!! >> Kendra Schaber >> National Federation of the Blind >> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown >> >> Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone Se. >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lily2011a%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com From troubleclark at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 01:26:57 2017 From: troubleclark at gmail.com (Nathan Clark) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 21:26:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <687338BE-C092-482B-AE71-733CCA1D11DB@gmail.com> She has been on every call that she was a member of the legislative committee. I served under her and Michael on that committee for seven months. She do they absolutely fantastic job and deserves recognition for her hard work especially at Washington seminar. She was placed on a different committee after Washington seminar due to issues that were not in her control. Her being replaced on the legislative committee should not be negatively viewed by anyone. Nathan Clark > On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Dustin Cather via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey Nathan, > It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. > Best.Dustin Cather > > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: > > > I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. > Sincerely, > Nathan Clark > > Nathan Clark > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/troubleclark%40gmail.com From amieelsabo at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 04:54:23 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:54:23 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] roommate wanted Message-ID: hello all, I hope that you are all doing well and, that you are having a wonderful summer. as the subject says it all I am looking for a roommate and, I might be coming to convention. unfortunately, my sister Rebecca who is a federationist cannot attend since she is now engaged and, also has a son who is one years old and, is too young to travel and all. I would prefer a female roommate and a nonsmoker. the reason for theis last request is that I have a voucher from southwest airlines which I got for not going to Wisconsin to visit my mom's family and, due to personal reasons I didn't go so, I have this voucher and, I need to use it by the end of September. if anyone of you are interested please call me at 303-588-7725 or you can email me at amieelsabo at gmail.com please contact me of this asap so, I can majke my fligjht reservations! thanks, amy p.s. I will be coming from july 8-16th From adamjosephperez at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:18:11 2017 From: adamjosephperez at gmail.com (Adam Perez) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:18:11 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001601d2e65f$f2f68710$d8e39530$@gmail.com> The document is empty. Can you send me it in .docx format please. Thank you adam -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:48 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Gaspa, Vee Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president Thank you Nate for your overwhelming support and wonderful friendship. It has been fantastic getting to know you as a leader and friend over the past year. I look forward to continuing our friendship and leadership experiences in the future. Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Clark via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 4:34 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Nathan Clark Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. Sincerely, Nathan Clark Nathan Clark _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/adamjosephperez%40gmail. com From VGaspa at nfb.org Fri Jun 16 12:17:03 2017 From: VGaspa at nfb.org (Gaspa, Vee) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 12:17:03 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Dustin, I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin Cather via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Dustin Cather Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president Hey Nathan, It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. Best.Dustin Cather On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. Sincerely, Nathan Clark Nathan Clark _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 16:04:51 2017 From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 06:04:51 -1000 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Aloha Vee: Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was hesitant in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees are doing. I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more letters, that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send them on over to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to Michael, Tarik, and Kathryn. Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest when holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to that same standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does everyone. We are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so let's work together to do just that. ; I just wanted to point out some miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine organization. Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. Best, Shannon KS Cantan > On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Dustin, > I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin Cather via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Dustin Cather > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president > > Hey Nathan, > It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. > Best.Dustin Cather > > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: > > > I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. > Sincerely, > Nathan Clark > > Nathan Clark > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb%40gmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Fri Jun 16 16:55:21 2017 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 16:55:21 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Shannon, It is rather disappointing to see an email like this be posted to the nabs email list. I feel as though you simply do not have the right to say what Vee has done or has not done based on what is or is not reflected in some dropbox folder. Perhaps the dropbox folder has not been properly updated by the person who is in charge of keeping it up to date, or there has been some miscommunication as to where the legislative letters need to be sent. Or perhaps The legislative letters Vee has collected came from students Who do not live in New Jersey. Regardless of what the case may be, I do not believe it is right for an individual to be called out this way on the nabs email list. We are all working for the same cause and organization, so we should be willing to support each other rather than tear each other down. Warm regards, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Shannon Cantan via NABS-L wrote: > > Aloha Vee: > > Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was > hesitant in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the > membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees > are doing. > I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year > now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New > Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the > NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. > Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean > Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative > Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more letters, > that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send them on over > to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to Michael, Tarik, > and Kathryn. > Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for > NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the > month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. > > Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a > growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest when > holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to that same > standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does everyone. We > are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so let's work > together to do just that. ; I just wanted to > point out some miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine > organization. > > Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. > > Best, > > Shannon KS Cantan > >> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello Dustin, >> I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! >> Best, >> Vee Gaspa >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin Cather via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Dustin Cather >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president >> >> Hey Nathan, >> It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. >> Best.Dustin Cather >> >> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: >> >> >> I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. >> Sincerely, >> Nathan Clark >> >> Nathan Clark >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org >> >> Disclaimer >> >> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. >> >> This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 17:27:48 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 10:27:48 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9DC329CA-0F9F-44A7-9F9D-7813BFE2990D@gmail.com> Hello Elizabeth, I feel that while your email had good intentions behind it, it may also be perpetuating the argument that you say you're trying to avoid. No disrespect intended. I realize that this email is also promoting an argument, and I apologize in advance for that. I'd also like to point out that, if I understand the principles of Dropbox correctly, it's designed to allow anyone who has access to modify or add to folders. Therefore, the responsibility of adding to the legislative folder falls equally on anyone who has access and says they'll work on it. If Vee and Shannon were the only two on that folder, then they would both be responsible for updates. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, since Shannon's email was very respectful, and also directed to Vee, isn't it up to her to respond to it? If his claims are false, I am sure she would be more than happy to tell us that in her own words. Part of being a blind student, or just a student, is learning to fight one's own battles. Not that this is a battle, of course. We're all, as you said, working toward a common goal. Again though, transparency and honesty on all sides are the only ways for us to get to that goal. Please correct me if anything I've said is wrong. Thanks! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2017, at 09:55, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Shannon, > > It is rather disappointing to see an email like this be posted to the nabs email list. I feel as though you simply do not have the right to say what Vee has done or has not done based on what is or is not reflected in some dropbox folder. Perhaps the dropbox folder has not been properly updated by the person who is in charge of keeping it up to date, or there has been some miscommunication as to where the legislative letters need to be sent. Or perhaps The legislative letters Vee has collected came from students Who do not live in New Jersey. Regardless of what the case may be, I do not believe it is right for an individual to be called out this way on the nabs email list. We are all working for the same cause and organization, so we should be willing to support each other rather than tear each other down. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Shannon Cantan via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Aloha Vee: >> >> Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was >> hesitant in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the >> membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees >> are doing. >> I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year >> now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New >> Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the >> NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. >> Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean >> Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative >> Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more letters, >> that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send them on over >> to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to Michael, Tarik, >> and Kathryn. >> Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for >> NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the >> month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. >> >> Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a >> growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest when >> holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to that same >> standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does everyone. We >> are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so let's work >> together to do just that. ; I just wanted to >> point out some miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine >> organization. >> >> Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. >> >> Best, >> >> Shannon KS Cantan >> >>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hello Dustin, >>> I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! >>> Best, >>> Vee Gaspa >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin Cather via NABS-L >>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Dustin Cather >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president >>> >>> Hey Nathan, >>> It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. >>> Best.Dustin Cather >>> >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. >>> Sincerely, >>> Nathan Clark >>> >>> Nathan Clark >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org >>> >>> Disclaimer >>> >>> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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To find out more visit the Mimecast website. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com From kat.bottner at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 17:54:23 2017 From: kat.bottner at gmail.com (Kathryn Bottner) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 13:54:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Vee Gaspa for 1ST Vice President. Message-ID: <030a01d2e6c9$9733e020$c59ba060$@gmail.com> Hi all, I know we're all busy gearing up for convention and its exciting, the many seminars we'll be attending, friends we'll be seeing, and new friends we'll make, but I didn't want to forget to mention how important NABS elections are at the annual NABS business meeting, while at national convention. When thinking about who to vote for 1STPresident, please consider voting for Vee Gaspa. I had the pleasure of meeting her last year, as she attended our 2016 NFB of Delaware state convention. She brought so much energy to our convention, and she came with open arms, asking if she could do anything to help. I went to the NFB of New Jersey's state convention, and I got to see her in more of a leading role, and she did a great job of leading the new Jersey Association of Blind students. In fact, I actually learned from her, which was an awesome experience. Again, I strongly consider you to vote Vee Gaspa as 1ST President for NABS. Thanks, Kat Bottner NFB of Delaware Affiliate President From VGaspa at nfb.org Fri Jun 16 18:17:06 2017 From: VGaspa at nfb.org (Gaspa, Vee) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 18:17:06 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Shannon, I don't have an exact count on letters I collected, but even if I was not collecting letters I was promoting AIMHE and doing my very best, not only with New Jersey, but in any states I could. While a NABS Rep in states such as, Alabama and Wisconsin, I made it a point to emphasize AIMHE and the importance of getting more letters. Also the blog posts are not always up to me, for example, this month President Webster felt it was important to address the membership herself, which I agree is very important. The chair and co-chairs of the outreach committee took turns with finding blog posts during the formation of the outreach committee after Washington Seminar, and last month was my turn. Furthermore, I know you are supporting Michael Ausbun and I also think he is a great person. In focusing on elections and candidates we should focus on strengths rather than weaknesses, because strength is what builds the Federation! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: Shannon Cantan [mailto:shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 12:05 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Dustin Cather; Gaspa, Vee Subject: Clarification Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president Aloha Vee: Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was hesitant in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees are doing. I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more letters, that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send them on over to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to Michael, Tarik, and Kathryn. Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest when holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to that same standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does everyone. We are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so let's work together to do just that. ; I just wanted to point out some miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine organization. Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. Best, Shannon KS Cantan > On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Dustin, > I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin > Cather via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Dustin Cather > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president > > Hey Nathan, > It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. > Best.Dustin Cather > > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: > > > I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. > Sincerely, > Nathan Clark > > Nathan Clark > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb%40gmail.com Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From VGaspa at nfb.org Fri Jun 16 18:22:07 2017 From: VGaspa at nfb.org (Gaspa, Vee) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 18:22:07 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Vee Gaspa for 1ST Vice President. In-Reply-To: <030a01d2e6c9$9733e020$c59ba060$@gmail.com> References: <030a01d2e6c9$9733e020$c59ba060$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Kat, Thank you for these very kind words. I was very thrilled to come to Delaware and give some tips to help Delaware get an active student division started in the future. It was fantastic to have you in Jersey for our convention and I can't wait to reconnect with you in Orlando! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bottner via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 1:54 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: State President, Delaware Subject: [nabs-l] Vee Gaspa for 1ST Vice President. Hi all, I know we're all busy gearing up for convention and its exciting, the many seminars we'll be attending, friends we'll be seeing, and new friends we'll make, but I didn't want to forget to mention how important NABS elections are at the annual NABS business meeting, while at national convention. When thinking about who to vote for 1STPresident, please consider voting for Vee Gaspa. I had the pleasure of meeting her last year, as she attended our 2016 NFB of Delaware state convention. She brought so much energy to our convention, and she came with open arms, asking if she could do anything to help. I went to the NFB of New Jersey's state convention, and I got to see her in more of a leading role, and she did a great job of leading the new Jersey Association of Blind students. In fact, I actually learned from her, which was an awesome experience. Again, I strongly consider you to vote Vee Gaspa as 1ST President for NABS. Thanks, Kat Bottner NFB of Delaware Affiliate President _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. 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From alpineimagination at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 18:46:17 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 11:46:17 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Bird-Lovers Meetup at Convention Message-ID: <5944277f.066e630a.cfa3.f44a@mx.google.com> Dear All, As someone who has had a strong passion for birds all my life, I would like to have a gathering of fellow bird-lovers at this year's NFB national convention in Orlando. One does not need to see to appreciate the natural music birds bring us daily. If you are interested, please send me an e-mail off-list at brlsurfer at gmail.com and I will then create a group email of all these who respond to find some time for a casual get-toogether during convention for an hour or so. Looking forward to seeing you all. Sincerely, Vejas From matthewhgip at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 19:52:47 2017 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 12:52:47 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] A Thank You Note From CABS Message-ID: Greetings fellow students, All of us from the California Association of Blind Students would like to send out a thank you note and send you all some great news. As you all are aware, outreach and recruitment is extremely important especially in the student division here in California. We are working hard on recruiting new members, getting students involved and engaged, and bringing the fresh new energy into this positive atmosphere because we don't have the membership we should be having. CABS is proud to announce that we now have over 100 members on our Facebook page that Cricket and I have diligently been working on. Thank you to everyone who has liked, supported, and helped us expand our growing movement and thank you for your awesome work, Cricket! This is just the beginning of course and we hope to expand our movement even more. Thank you everyone again. Here's the link to our Facebook page if you haven't already checked out CABS: https://m.facebook.com/California-Association-of-Blind-students-CABS-166747930401206/?tsid=0.5205912641249597&source=result Best regards, Matthew Gip Sent from my iPhone From leena.salim at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 19:56:03 2017 From: leena.salim at gmail.com (Leena Bandy) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 14:56:03 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] A Thank You Note From CABS Message-ID: <20170616195603.leena.salim@gmail.com> Congratulations! I was part of CABS years ago. I was secretary for a little while and on the board before that. I'm in Texas now, but so glad to see you all are doing so well. Leena ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Gip via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date: Friday, June 16, 2017 14:53 Subject: [nabs-l] A Thank You Note From CABS > > > Greetings fellow students, > > All of us from the California Association of Blind Students would like to send out a thank you note and send you all some great news. As you all are aware, outreach and recruitment is extremely important especially in the student division here in California. We are working hard on recruiting new members, getting students involved and engaged, and bringing the fresh new energy into this positive atmosphere because we don't have the membership we should be having. CABS is proud to announce that we now have over 100 members on our Facebook page that Cricket and I have diligently been working on. Thank you to everyone who has liked, supported, and helped us expand our growing movement and thank you for your awesome work, Cricket! This is just the beginning of course and we hope to expand our movement even more. Thank you everyone again. > Here's the link to our Facebook page if you haven't already checked out CABS: > https://m.facebook.com/California-Association-of-Blind-students-CABS-166747930401206/�tsid=0.5205912641249597&source=result > > Best regards, > Matthew Gip > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com From goosie1011 at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 20:28:51 2017 From: goosie1011 at gmail.com (Garrett Kearns) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 16:28:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Message-ID: Hello all, To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with all of you in the future. Regards, Garrett Kearns Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 20:49:40 2017 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 16:49:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Message About NABS Elections Message-ID: <68EEDF07-3A8D-47D8-8438-48A3A5578753@gmail.com> Garrett I want to take the time out to show my appreciation for this email. Not because I am endorsing one candidate over the other, because I think they are both excellent leaders with the love of the Federation at the forefront of all of their endeavors, but because you make an excellent point about voting carefully. I urge all NABSTERS to truly look at the work ethic, accountability, and approachability of all candidates running this year for the board. Trust in your gut and understand we are all family in the end. I can't wait to connect with most of you in 3 weeks. God Bless Robert Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Garrett Kearns via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, > > To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended > the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all > of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes > controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months > I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my > opinion on the matter. > > Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl > into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's > handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find > it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late > night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite > of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i > ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she > has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active > social life. > > She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. > What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all > opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not > intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider > where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see > her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others > pressure you to think otherwise. > > Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating > with all of you in the future. > > Regards, > Garrett Kearns > Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rob.parso3389%40gmail.com From nmabspresident1 at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 20:53:29 2017 From: nmabspresident1 at gmail.com (Kaity Ellis) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 14:53:29 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. Message-ID: Hello all! I am Kaity Ellis, the New Mexico Association of Blind Students President. I took this position a short while ago, and when I took the position I had received the name of Vee Gasper. She has been very helpful in guiding me and a wonderful support for the New Mexico Association. I believe that having her as vice president will only move the Federation and the student division to a better and stronger position. She is one amazing leader! New Mexico Association of Blind Students Division President: Kaity Ellis Phone: (575-694-4299 Mailing Address: PO Box 163 Deming New Mexico 88030 Live the life you want!~ National Federation of the Blind. From VGaspa at nfb.org Fri Jun 16 20:55:37 2017 From: VGaspa at nfb.org (Gaspa, Vee) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 20:55:37 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you very much, Garrett, it has been great knowing you for so many years. Thank you for being there at 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM for me. I look forward to working with you and seeing you involved in the future! Most importantly, welcome to our Federation family! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Kearns via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:29 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Garrett Kearns Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with all of you in the future. Regards, Garrett Kearns Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From VGaspa at nfb.org Fri Jun 16 21:02:00 2017 From: VGaspa at nfb.org (Gaspa, Vee) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 21:02:00 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kaity, even though I have only known you a short while, since you became President of the New Mexico Association of Blind Students, I have been able to learn that you are a fabulous leader, and the Federation is lucky to have you. I look forward to meeting you in Orlando and collaborating with you for a long time to come! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaity Ellis via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:53 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kaity Ellis Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. Hello all! I am Kaity Ellis, the New Mexico Association of Blind Students President. I took this position a short while ago, and when I took the position I had received the name of Vee Gasper. She has been very helpful in guiding me and a wonderful support for the New Mexico Association. I believe that having her as vice president will only move the Federation and the student division to a better and stronger position. She is one amazing leader! New Mexico Association of Blind Students Division President: Kaity Ellis Phone: (575-694-4299 Mailing Address: PO Box 163 Deming New Mexico 88030 Live the life you want!~ National Federation of the Blind. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 01:43:35 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 21:43:35 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Only 5 Seats Left! Don't Miss Your Chance to Attend the Employment committees 1st Etiquette Dinner! Message-ID: Hello my federation family! There are only 5 seats left for "Winning Them Over with Professionalism and Poise" the Etiquette Dinner presented by the NFB Employment Committee. Do not miss your chance to learn the tips and tricks of proper dining etiquette. All who attend are sure to leave more professional, more poised, and more polished than they entered. The dinner will be held on July 10th at 5:30pm in the Cafe Osceola restaurant within the Rosen Shingle Creek Hotel in Orlando FL. To reserve your seat, simply complete the attached form and e-mail it to me at bobbipompey at gmail.com. You can also find the menu for the evening on the form. Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns, and I look forward to seeing your face in the crowd next month! With love, Bobbi A. L. Pompey, Member Employment Committee National Federation of the Blind (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Winning Them Over With Professionalism and Poise- Ettiquette Dinner Registration.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 150296 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 03:31:46 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 22:31:46 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Only 5 Seats Left! Don't Miss Your Chance to Attend the Employment committees 1st Etiquette Dinner! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <114601d2e71a$3feabcc0$bfc03640$@gmail.com> Dear Bobbi, Is there a deadline by which the form should be returned to you, or are seats being filled on a first-come, first-served basis until all are filled? Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 8:44 PM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L ; Dick Davis via Jobs ; David Andrews via rehab Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Only 5 Seats Left! Don't Miss Your Chance to Attend the Employment committees 1st Etiquette Dinner! Hello my federation family! There are only 5 seats left for "Winning Them Over with Professionalism and Poise" the Etiquette Dinner presented by the NFB Employment Committee. Do not miss your chance to learn the tips and tricks of proper dining etiquette. All who attend are sure to leave more professional, more poised, and more polished than they entered. The dinner will be held on July 10th at 5:30pm in the Cafe Osceola restaurant within the Rosen Shingle Creek Hotel in Orlando FL. To reserve your seat, simply complete the attached form and e-mail it to me at bobbipompey at gmail.com. You can also find the menu for the evening on the form. Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns, and I look forward to seeing your face in the crowd next month! With love, Bobbi A. L. Pompey, Member Employment Committee National Federation of the Blind (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 06:32:36 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 02:32:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5DA73717-AC9F-48FF-A8DC-9BD03645DBD9@gmail.com> Gasper? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: > > Kaity, even though I have only known you a short while, since you became President of the New Mexico Association of Blind Students, I have been able to learn that you are a fabulous leader, and the Federation is lucky to have you. I look forward to meeting you in Orlando and collaborating with you for a long time to come! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaity Ellis via NABS-L > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:53 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kaity Ellis > Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. > > Hello all! I am Kaity Ellis, the New Mexico Association of Blind Students President. I took this position a short while ago, and when I took the position I had received the name of Vee Gasper. She has been very helpful in guiding me and a wonderful support for the New Mexico Association. I believe that having her as vice president will only move the Federation and the student division to a better and stronger position. She is one amazing leader! > > New Mexico Association of Blind Students Division President: Kaity Ellis > Phone: (575-694-4299 > Mailing Address: PO Box 163 Deming New Mexico 88030 Live the life you want!~ National Federation of the Blind. > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:20:19 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 07:20:19 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. In-Reply-To: <5DA73717-AC9F-48FF-A8DC-9BD03645DBD9@gmail.com> References: <5DA73717-AC9F-48FF-A8DC-9BD03645DBD9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <124a01d2e764$1689a130$439ce390$@gmail.com> lol -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:33 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Syed Rizvi Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. Gasper? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: > > Kaity, even though I have only known you a short while, since you became President of the New Mexico Association of Blind Students, I have been able to learn that you are a fabulous leader, and the Federation is lucky to have you. I look forward to meeting you in Orlando and collaborating with you for a long time to come! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaity Ellis via NABS-L > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:53 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kaity Ellis > Subject: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gasper. > > Hello all! I am Kaity Ellis, the New Mexico Association of Blind Students President. I took this position a short while ago, and when I took the position I had received the name of Vee Gasper. She has been very helpful in guiding me and a wonderful support for the New Mexico Association. I believe that having her as vice president will only move the Federation and the student division to a better and stronger position. She is one amazing leader! > > New Mexico Association of Blind Students Division President: Kaity Ellis > Phone: (575-694-4299 > Mailing Address: PO Box 163 Deming New Mexico 88030 Live the life you want!~ National Federation of the Blind. > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 14:03:00 2017 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 10:03:00 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Only 5 Seats Left! Don't Miss Your Chance to Attendthe Employment committees 1st Etiquette Dinner! Message-ID: <594536af.9b21c80a.7b1c4.6431@mx.google.com> Hi Bobbi and all, I also had a question about this. For those of us who will not be able to attend this dinner, either because we won't be attending convention or because people registered late, will the discussions be recorded and/or live-streamed? I think that this dinner is very important, especially for those of us who are college students landing jobs in the future as well as living independently. So in my opinion, this event should absolutely not just be limited to the probably very few attendees (compared with how many in total are at convention, as well as those who are not). This is just my opinion of course, but I would still truly appreciate if either the Etiquette dinner will be livestreamed, or one of the attendees records the event. I hope I made my proposal clear here. Thanks for your time and enjoy your weekend, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: Cory McMahon via NABS-L , "'Dick Davis via Jobs'" ,"'David Andrews via rehab'" ; Dick Davis via Jobs ; David Andrews via rehab References: Message-ID: <010701d2e776$82e5ef70$88b1ce50$@gmail.com> Dear all, I want to first start by saying welcome to the Federation Garrett. Second, I am so very proud of Vee. As you all may know, the weekend of June second, students gathered at the NFB headquarters for a seminar. Vee did a wonderful job representing NJABS as well as organizing this wonderful gathering. She has a bright spirit as well as a very understanding personality. I have only known Vee for one weekend but can't wait to see what wonderful things she will continue to do. Please consider voting for VEE Gaspa! Thanks, Nesma -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:56 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Gaspa, Vee Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Thank you very much, Garrett, it has been great knowing you for so many years. Thank you for being there at 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM for me. I look forward to working with you and seeing you involved in the future! Most importantly, welcome to our Federation family! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Kearns via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:29 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Garrett Kearns Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with all of you in the future. Regards, Garrett Kearns Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 16:04:55 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:04:55 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00fb01d2e783$7aa71cf0$6ff556d0$@gmail.com> Garrett: Thank you for your thoughtful message! I loved meeting you at our seminar, and am thrilled to see you already taking an active role in our Federation work. In our organization we often repeat with pride our founder, Dr. Jacobus tenBroek's, statement: "The National Federation of the Blind is not an organization speaking for the blind. It is the blind speaking for themselves." In order to effectively do that, we need all Federationists, new and seasoned alike, to let our voices be heard on the issues which matter to us. It's gratifying to see that you are already doing this, and I'm confident that you will continue to do so as you grow in your leadership. I hope that all of us will follow your admonision to vote with care and personal reflection, and I can't wait to see how you will help us build the Federation in the years to come! Best, Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Kearns via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:29 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Garrett Kearns Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with all of you in the future. Regards, Garrett Kearns Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 16:06:23 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:06:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Thank You Note From CABS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010801d2e783$afd96e00$0f8c4a00$@gmail.com> That's fantastic! Keep up the building! --CN -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Gip via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 3:53 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Matthew Gip Subject: [nabs-l] A Thank You Note From CABS Greetings fellow students, All of us from the California Association of Blind Students would like to send out a thank you note and send you all some great news. As you all are aware, outreach and recruitment is extremely important especially in the student division here in California. We are working hard on recruiting new members, getting students involved and engaged, and bringing the fresh new energy into this positive atmosphere because we don't have the membership we should be having. CABS is proud to announce that we now have over 100 members on our Facebook page that Cricket and I have diligently been working on. Thank you to everyone who has liked, supported, and helped us expand our growing movement and thank you for your awesome work, Cricket! This is just the beginning of course and we hope to expand our movement even more. Thank you everyone again. Here's the link to our Facebook page if you haven't already checked out CABS: https://m.facebook.com/California-Association-of-Blind-students-CABS-1667479 30401206/?tsid=0.5205912641249597&source=result Best regards, Matthew Gip Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From hstaley at nfbtx.org Sat Jun 17 17:05:12 2017 From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 12:05:12 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Endorsement of Michael Ausbun for 1st Vice President Message-ID: <28BCDBFE-087B-4D72-8A62-6748DDFEBA53@nfbtx.org> Good morning; I whole heartedly endorse Michael D. Ausbun for 1st Vice President of the National Association of Blind Students for the following reasons. 1. He is committed to the advancement of our movement as Federationists as evidenced by the following actions. a. He was one of the first students in the federation to deliver a letter of support for the AIM High act from his institution University of Nevada Reno. b. He has excelled as the legislative director for the Nevada Affiliate for the past two years. c. He currently serves as the Vice President of the Nevada Affiliate. d. He has served as an intern at the National Office in 2016. 2. He is committed to setting a positive example for his peers through the following: a. He is committed to developing his blindness skills and presenting a positive view of blindness. b. He fought to attend the Louisiana Center for the Blind and will graduate soon. The one thing that sets Michael apart is he heart to serve. I remember working with him to simply clean up some garbage that needed taken care of after the student seminar in Texas. it wasn’t his job, and he had another meeting to get to, but he inconvenienced himself to make sure that we left the conference room better than we found it. Harry A. Staley Jr. President San Antonio Chapter National Federation of the Blind From dandrews at visi.com Sat Jun 17 18:00:51 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:00:51 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Bird-Lovers Meetup at Convention In-Reply-To: <5944277f.066e630a.cfa3.f44a@mx.google.com> References: <5944277f.066e630a.cfa3.f44a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: You might want to contact Donna Posont from Michigan -- she is very much into blind birding and has done a variety of activities in her state. Dave At 01:46 PM 6/16/2017, you wrote: >Dear All, >As someone who has had a strong passion for birds all my life, I >would like to have a gathering of fellow bird-lovers at this year's >NFB national convention in Orlando. One does not need to see to >appreciate the natural music birds bring us daily. If you are >interested, please send me an e-mail off-list at brlsurfer at gmail.com >and I will then create a group email of all these who respond to >find some time for a casual get-toogether during convention for an hour or so. >Looking forward to seeing you all. >Sincerely, >Vejas From tyler at tysdomain.com Sat Jun 17 20:14:54 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 16:14:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Endorsing Michael Ausbun as vice-president Message-ID: Hello all, My name is Ty Littlefield; I am currently the vice-president of the Massachusetts student chapter (MASSABS). I've also done a lot of accessibility and advocacy work around making apps such as Venmo and Instacart more accessible and was behind work on converting NFBTrans so that it will run on modern operating systems. I've had a few discussions with Michael both in person and over social media. Michael has always struck me as someone who genuinely loves the federation and wants to give back to the organization as much as possible. Michael is a great example of a great leader within the organization. He is able to connect with those who are not on the board while also encouraging others to lead and become involved within the federation family. It means a lot to also see leaders such as Michael who are as dedicated toward our movement and who truly love their work. Perhaps what speaks loudest about Michael is his ability to dedicate himself toward our movement without the need to tout his achievements; he is able to simply let them stand as they are and continue working toward our mutual goals. I fully support Michael and his election as vice-president and encourage everyone to also do so and help the organization move forward. I believe that he will support Kathryn Webster as president and his enthusiasm and leadership can only help the organization grow. Thanks for your time, Tyler Littlefield From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 20:32:14 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:32:14 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello Andrew and all, sorry, for the late response to this thread. I have been offline/offlist due to personal issues and, I'm now back online and, checking up on all of my emails. that's awesome that you got a cat. I too am getting a kitty in the middle/end of july and, all of these tips for using the litter box are all great! again, thanks for everyone giving good tips/advice and, I will talk to you all soon. hugs, amy On 11/21/16, andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all I am getting a cat on Friday. now i am not sure if there are any cat > lovers or any who have cats but anyway How do you as a blind person clean > out the cat litter box? also how do you manage to pick out the clumps do > you do it with your hands or do you wear gloves what do you do as it must > be harder if you can't see. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 20:53:56 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 16:53:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> Cats/kittens are awesome! I went to a "cat café" yesterday, essentially it's what it sounds like, a café that's just full of adorable little kittens running everywhere on the floor and lounging on couches and chairs and tables, it's just so so so so cute! And trust me, it's super clean in there (LOLOLOL)! The café is called Pounce and is located in Charleston, South Carolina. It's the most fun place you'll ever go to, Iswear, so if any of you are in the Charleston area, try and stop by! It's very fun for blind people too, and you can just sip on some sweet coffie house-type drink and pet a kitten while you're at it! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:32 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips hello Andrew and all, sorry, for the late response to this thread. I have been offline/offlist due to personal issues and, I'm now back online and, checking up on all of my emails. that's awesome that you got a cat. I too am getting a kitty in the middle/end of july and, all of these tips for using the litter box are all great! again, thanks for everyone giving good tips/advice and, I will talk to you all soon. hugs, amy On 11/21/16, andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all I am getting a cat on Friday. now i am not sure if there are > any cat lovers or any who have cats but anyway How do you as a blind > person clean out the cat litter box? also how do you manage to pick > out the clumps do you do it with your hands or do you wear gloves what > do you do as it must be harder if you can't see. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail > .com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 21:25:14 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:25:14 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips In-Reply-To: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> References: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: hello Jordan, this sounds awesome! and, sooooo cute! is there a web site for this place? i want to check it out..... thanks, amy On 6/17/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Cats/kittens are awesome! I went to a "cat café" yesterday, essentially > it's > what it sounds like, a café that's just full of adorable little kittens > running everywhere on the floor and lounging on couches and chairs and > tables, it's just so so so so cute! And trust me, it's super clean in there > (LOLOLOL)! > > The café is called Pounce and is located in Charleston, South Carolina. > It's > the most fun place you'll ever go to, Iswear, so if any of you are in the > Charleston area, try and stop by! It's very fun for blind people too, and > you can just sip on some sweet coffie house-type drink and pet a kitten > while you're at it! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:32 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Amy Sabo > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips > > hello Andrew and all, sorry, for the late response to this thread. I have > been offline/offlist due to personal issues and, I'm now back online and, > checking up on all of my emails. that's awesome that you got a cat. I too > am > getting a kitty in the middle/end of july and, all of these tips for using > the litter box are all great! again, thanks for everyone giving good > tips/advice and, I will talk to you all soon. > hugs, amy > > On 11/21/16, andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi all I am getting a cat on Friday. now i am not sure if there are >> any cat lovers or any who have cats but anyway How do you as a blind >> person clean out the cat litter box? also how do you manage to pick >> out the clumps do you do it with your hands or do you wear gloves what >> do you do as it must be harder if you can't see. >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail >> .com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 21:35:02 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:35:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips In-Reply-To: References: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008a01d2e7b1$9505ab10$bf110130$@gmail.com> Yes there is. Here you go! (grinning face) http://www.pouncecatcafe.com/ It's just so amazing, and kawaii, or cute!!! Yeah, I'm an otaku, jail me (hahahahaha)! Note that you first have to hit the "enter" link to be taken to the web site. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 5:25 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips hello Jordan, this sounds awesome! and, sooooo cute! is there a web site for this place? i want to check it out..... thanks, amy On 6/17/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Cats/kittens are awesome! I went to a "cat café" yesterday, > essentially it's what it sounds like, a café that's just full of > adorable little kittens running everywhere on the floor and lounging > on couches and chairs and tables, it's just so so so so cute! And > trust me, it's super clean in there (LOLOLOL)! > > The café is called Pounce and is located in Charleston, South Carolina. > It's > the most fun place you'll ever go to, Iswear, so if any of you are in > the Charleston area, try and stop by! It's very fun for blind people > too, and you can just sip on some sweet coffie house-type drink and > pet a kitten while you're at it! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:32 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Amy Sabo > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips > > hello Andrew and all, sorry, for the late response to this thread. I > have been offline/offlist due to personal issues and, I'm now back > online and, checking up on all of my emails. that's awesome that you > got a cat. I too am getting a kitty in the middle/end of july and, all > of these tips for using the litter box are all great! again, thanks > for everyone giving good tips/advice and, I will talk to you all soon. > hugs, amy > > On 11/21/16, andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi all I am getting a cat on Friday. now i am not sure if there are >> any cat lovers or any who have cats but anyway How do you as a blind >> person clean out the cat litter box? also how do you manage to pick >> out the clumps do you do it with your hands or do you wear gloves >> what do you do as it must be harder if you can't see. >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmai >> l >> .com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmai > l.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail > .com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 21:43:07 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:43:07 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips In-Reply-To: <008a01d2e7b1$9505ab10$bf110130$@gmail.com> References: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> <008a01d2e7b1$9505ab10$bf110130$@gmail.com> Message-ID: hey Jordan, thanks a bunch for posting this web site to the list. I have bookmarked it in my fa vorites in ie and, I will get to it when I get some free time. thanks again and, I will talk to you soon. hugs, amy On 6/17/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Yes there is. Here you go! (grinning face) > > http://www.pouncecatcafe.com/ > > It's just so amazing, and kawaii, or cute!!! Yeah, I'm an otaku, jail me > (hahahahaha)! > > Note that you first have to hit the "enter" link to be taken to the web > site. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 5:25 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Amy Sabo > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips > > hello Jordan, this sounds awesome! and, sooooo cute! is there a web > site for this place? i want to check it out..... thanks, amy > > On 6/17/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> Cats/kittens are awesome! I went to a "cat café" yesterday, >> essentially it's what it sounds like, a café that's just full of >> adorable little kittens running everywhere on the floor and lounging >> on couches and chairs and tables, it's just so so so so cute! And >> trust me, it's super clean in there (LOLOLOL)! >> >> The café is called Pounce and is located in Charleston, South Carolina. >> It's >> the most fun place you'll ever go to, Iswear, so if any of you are in >> the Charleston area, try and stop by! It's very fun for blind people >> too, and you can just sip on some sweet coffie house-type drink and >> pet a kitten while you're at it! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:32 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Amy Sabo >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips >> >> hello Andrew and all, sorry, for the late response to this thread. I >> have been offline/offlist due to personal issues and, I'm now back >> online and, checking up on all of my emails. that's awesome that you >> got a cat. I too am getting a kitty in the middle/end of july and, all >> of these tips for using the litter box are all great! again, thanks >> for everyone giving good tips/advice and, I will talk to you all soon. >> hugs, amy >> >> On 11/21/16, andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi all I am getting a cat on Friday. now i am not sure if there are >>> any cat lovers or any who have cats but anyway How do you as a blind >>> person clean out the cat litter box? also how do you manage to pick >>> out the clumps do you do it with your hands or do you wear gloves >>> what do you do as it must be harder if you can't see. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmai >>> l >>> .com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmai >> l.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail >> .com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 21:54:07 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:54:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips In-Reply-To: References: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> <008a01d2e7b1$9505ab10$bf110130$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008c01d2e7b4$3ed1ebc0$bc75c340$@gmail.com> Awwww, thanks Amy!!! Please look at it when you can, it's awesome!!!!! BTW, where did your last name come from? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 5:43 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips hey Jordan, thanks a bunch for posting this web site to the list. I have bookmarked it in my fa vorites in ie and, I will get to it when I get some free time. thanks again and, I will talk to you soon. hugs, amy On 6/17/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Yes there is. Here you go! (grinning face) > > http://www.pouncecatcafe.com/ > > It's just so amazing, and kawaii, or cute!!! Yeah, I'm an otaku, jail > me (hahahahaha)! > > Note that you first have to hit the "enter" link to be taken to the > web site. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 5:25 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Amy Sabo > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips > > hello Jordan, this sounds awesome! and, sooooo cute! is there a web > site for this place? i want to check it out..... thanks, amy > > On 6/17/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> Cats/kittens are awesome! I went to a "cat café" yesterday, >> essentially it's what it sounds like, a café that's just full of >> adorable little kittens running everywhere on the floor and lounging >> on couches and chairs and tables, it's just so so so so cute! And >> trust me, it's super clean in there (LOLOLOL)! >> >> The café is called Pounce and is located in Charleston, South Carolina. >> It's >> the most fun place you'll ever go to, Iswear, so if any of you are in >> the Charleston area, try and stop by! It's very fun for blind people >> too, and you can just sip on some sweet coffie house-type drink and >> pet a kitten while you're at it! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:32 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Amy Sabo >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips >> >> hello Andrew and all, sorry, for the late response to this thread. I >> have been offline/offlist due to personal issues and, I'm now back >> online and, checking up on all of my emails. that's awesome that you >> got a cat. I too am getting a kitty in the middle/end of july and, >> all of these tips for using the litter box are all great! again, >> thanks for everyone giving good tips/advice and, I will talk to you all soon. >> hugs, amy >> >> On 11/21/16, andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi all I am getting a cat on Friday. now i am not sure if there are >>> any cat lovers or any who have cats but anyway How do you as a blind >>> person clean out the cat litter box? also how do you manage to pick >>> out the clumps do you do it with your hands or do you wear gloves >>> what do you do as it must be harder if you can't see. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gma >>> i >>> l >>> .com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> i >> l.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmai >> l >> .com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail > .com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 23:25:35 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:25:35 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] jaws problems Message-ID: hello all, as the subject saysit all I'm having problems with jaws. I'm using it all of sudden it freezes up and, it won't talk at all. I have tried fixing it by sending error reports to freedom scientific but, nothing has happened either. I have also did a update in jfw. I'm using jaws 18 and, this problem is driving me insane!!!! so, is there anything someone can do me for this problem? if so email me off list or call me. if not then I will have to call freedom Scientific's tech support on Monday. thanks a bunch and, I look forward to hearing from anyone soon. hugs, amy From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 23:37:45 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 18:37:45 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Shannon: Let me begin by thanking you for your efforts to respectfully clarify what you perceive to be "miscommunicated information" in recent posts to this list. More importantly, let me express publicly my appreciation for the dedication and hard work which you have put into NABS in the past year, often without receiving the recognition you deserve. You have made yourself indispensable to the Board, and we could not have achieved all that we have achieved this year without your help. Thank you! Your note has given me cause for some reflection, so I should like to offer up some comments of my own for the consideration of our members. As you know, collecting personal testimonies from students in support of the AIMHEA Act and obtaining letters of support for the bill from institutions of higher education are two of the most significant projects with which NABS has concerned itself in the past year. Moreover, it is very easy to track the number of letters we are getting from each state using such tools as the Dropbox folder to which you refer. Therefore, it is tempting to use this project as a means for judging the quality of a leader's work--after all, the easiest and arguably most convincing test of a leader is the "tangible results" he/she produces. However, it must be noted that these results are, in part, out of our control. In order for a leader to "collect" an AIMHEA letter from a member, the member from whom the letter is to be collected must first actually write the letter. Though it is important for those who are working on this project to follow up with potential supporters, the choice to submit a letter is ultimately in the hands of each member. As much as we leaders would love to see each member write a letter, call their Congressman, and request a meeting with their university officials, the fact is that some of our members are not as active as they could be. As leaders, then, our job is to encourage our members to remain active in advocating for the causes for which we fight. If they remain inactive despite our attempts to get them involved, that choice should not reflect on us. With that in mind, I ask you: Do you know how many people Vee contacted to solicit letters? Do you know the ratio of active members in New Jersey to letters written from that state? Do you know what role, if any, Vee played in the collection of the letters you cite? Surely she must have played some role as the state President in New Jersey. And what about letters collected from other states? What role, if any, did she play in acquiring those? If you have such information (information which I do not have,) please feel free to fill me in and I will be happy to take this into consideration at election time. Until then, frankly, I remain unconvinced. I am often reminded, however, that I can only speak for myself. Therefore, let me do that in the context of the present discussion. As you know, I serve as President of the Maryland Association of Blind Students, a position which I have occupied since November of 2015. In July of that year, I was elected to the board of the National Association of Blind Students. It will be observed, then, that I had 4 months of national leadership under my belt before being elected a state President. It will also be observed that I have been on the NABS Board a year longer than Vee has—a year in which I could have flooded my state's delegation with letters from students from whom I "collected" them. Indeed, my own AIMHEA letter was written on January 10, 2016—6 months before Vee was elected to the NABS Board, and approximately 2 weeks before she attended her first Washington Seminar, at which she had her first real exposure to our legislative work. Yet, according to the latest update I have received from the Chairman of our Legislative Committee, Maryland students have submitted a total of 7 letters. Is this a lapse in my leadership? Perhaps it is, and, if so, I would love to hear any tips you might have to offer on how to improve. But let us consider the stakes. This is Maryland—the state which serves as home to our national headquarters, home to President Riccobono himself, and home to the very governmental affairs team which we are helping by submitting these letters. Moreover, many of us in the Maryland student division consider our national leaders to be personal mentors, and these national leaders are often intimately involved with our work. In this context, what a dismal record! Even in Maryland, a state which other state leaders consider a model for them to follow, we only outnumber the statistic you cite by 1 solitary letter. Therefore, if we are to accept your premise, what unimaginable shame I must feel! What unspeakable fear I must have when I must admit to our members and leaders the deplorable results which my efforts have produced! What utter terror I must live in, always afraid that someone will find me out! Perhaps someone should appeal to the membership and mount a campaign to have me ousted from my current position. Perhaps my affiliate President should intervene and hand over all the important work to someone who will produce better results. Or perhaps I should simply resign in embarrassment and defeat. Yet, somehow, our members still trust me. Somehow they still call me seeking advice on Federation activities. And somehow they still elect me as their President. With such a completely disgusting showing of results, how can this be? Shannon, I, too, write this with no ill will toward you or anyone else. In fact, I write it with the greatest appreciation and respect for you. You picked up much of the work which I had failed in doing in the past year. You could have resented me and refused to do the work, but you simply picked up where I left off and gave your all for NABS's sake. So, this has nothing to do with you. I am only trying to make sure your "clarification" is placed in the proper perspective. I believe in the old adage that "there are two sides to every story." If this is true, it is important to consider weighty issues like these with both sides taken into account. Moreover, I believe that any argument which is to be deemed valid must be able to withstand the test of honest and reasonable questioning. This is why we ask tough questions of our candidates, and this is why we have this list as an open forum for the exchange of opinions. Let us continue to consider the arguments made and questions asked as we decide who our leaders will be. Yours in the movement, Chris Nusbaum -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Cantan via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 12:05 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Shannon Cantan Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president Aloha Vee: Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was hesitant in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees are doing. I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more letters, that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send them on over to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to Michael, Tarik, and Kathryn. Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest when holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to that same standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does everyone. We are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so let's work together to do just that. ; I just wanted to point out some miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine organization. Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. Best, Shannon KS Cantan >> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hello Dustin, > I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin > Cather via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Dustin Cather > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president > > Hey Nathan, > It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. > Best.Dustin Cather > >> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L > wrote: > > > I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. > Sincerely, > Nathan Clark > > Nathan Clark > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40ya > hoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb% > 40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.co m From zdreicer at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 23:53:59 2017 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:53:59 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] [Colorado-talk] jaws problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is an option to repair the software, or you can uninstall and reinstall it completely. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Jun 17, 2017, at 17:25, Amy Sabo via Colorado-Talk wrote: > > hello all, as the subject saysit all I'm having problems with jaws. > I'm using it all of sudden it freezes up and, it won't talk at all. I > have tried fixing it by sending error reports to freedom scientific > but, nothing has happened either. I have also did a update in jfw. I'm > using jaws 18 and, this problem is driving me insane!!!! so, is there > anything someone can do me for this problem? if so email me off list > or call me. if not then I will have to call freedom Scientific's tech > support on Monday. thanks a bunch and, I look forward to hearing > from anyone soon. hugs, amy > > _______________________________________________ > Colorado-Talk mailing list > Colorado-Talk at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Colorado-Talk: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com > List archives can be found at From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 01:02:40 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 21:02:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips In-Reply-To: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> References: <006401d2e7ab$d75fa840$861ef8c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007a01d2e7ce$9625bae0$c27130a0$@gmail.com> Chalreston SC right? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:54 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips Cats/kittens are awesome! I went to a "cat café" yesterday, essentially it's what it sounds like, a café that's just full of adorable little kittens running everywhere on the floor and lounging on couches and chairs and tables, it's just so so so so cute! And trust me, it's super clean in there (LOLOLOL)! The café is called Pounce and is located in Charleston, South Carolina. It's the most fun place you'll ever go to, Iswear, so if any of you are in the Charleston area, try and stop by! It's very fun for blind people too, and you can just sip on some sweet coffie house-type drink and pet a kitten while you're at it! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:32 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amy Sabo Subject: Re: [nabs-l] cat litter box tips hello Andrew and all, sorry, for the late response to this thread. I have been offline/offlist due to personal issues and, I'm now back online and, checking up on all of my emails. that's awesome that you got a cat. I too am getting a kitty in the middle/end of july and, all of these tips for using the litter box are all great! again, thanks for everyone giving good tips/advice and, I will talk to you all soon. hugs, amy On 11/21/16, andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all I am getting a cat on Friday. now i am not sure if there are > any cat lovers or any who have cats but anyway How do you as a blind > person clean out the cat litter box? also how do you manage to pick > out the clumps do you do it with your hands or do you wear gloves what > do you do as it must be harder if you can't see. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail > .com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 01:07:47 2017 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 21:07:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Elizabeth. I definitely agree with you! In regards this matter. We are here to support fore ach other! Hope to hear you form you soon. Thanks and God bless! Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the Blind IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 > On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Shannon, > > It is rather disappointing to see an email like this be posted to the nabs email list. I feel as though you simply do not have the right to say what Vee has done or has not done based on what is or is not reflected in some dropbox folder. Perhaps the dropbox folder has not been properly updated by the person who is in charge of keeping it up to date, or there has been some miscommunication as to where the legislative letters need to be sent. Or perhaps The legislative letters Vee has collected came from students Who do not live in New Jersey. Regardless of what the case may be, I do not believe it is right for an individual to be called out this way on the nabs email list. We are all working for the same cause and organization, so we should be willing to support each other rather than tear each other down. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Shannon Cantan via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Aloha Vee: >> >> Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was >> hesitant in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the >> membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees >> are doing. >> I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year >> now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New >> Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the >> NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. >> Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean >> Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative >> Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more letters, >> that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send them on over >> to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to Michael, Tarik, >> and Kathryn. >> Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for >> NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the >> month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. >> >> Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a >> growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest when >> holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to that same >> standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does everyone. We >> are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so let's work >> together to do just that. ; I just wanted to >> point out some miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine >> organization. >> >> Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. >> >> Best, >> >> Shannon KS Cantan >> >>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hello Dustin, >>> I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! >>> Best, >>> Vee Gaspa >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin Cather via NABS-L >>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Dustin Cather >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president >>> >>> Hey Nathan, >>> It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. >>> Best.Dustin Cather >>> >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. 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To find out more visit the Mimecast website. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com From hstaley at nfbtx.org Sun Jun 18 01:22:04 2017 From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 20:22:04 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <888BF332-3A2B-43B3-93F5-D5D93A698DEF@nfbtx.org> I believe the issue that is being brought out is potential misrepresentation of the impacts that someone has had to propel our organization forward. Please know that honesty and integrity are key traits for a senior leader. Please know that the First Vice President must be able to not only be popular but also be able to think strategically about the mission and vision of not just our organization but also where our mission and vision fits into the larger picture of the NFB. They must be able to communicate and persuade senior leaders as well as represent our organization well to administration and the public at large. Please know that popularity alone does not make you a leader. Harry Staley (330) 718-1876 Staleyh at gmail.com > On Jun 17, 2017, at 18:37, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Shannon: > > Let me begin by thanking you for your efforts to respectfully clarify what > you perceive to be "miscommunicated information" in recent posts to this > list. More importantly, let me express publicly my appreciation for the > dedication and hard work which you have put into NABS in the past year, > often without receiving the recognition you deserve. You have made > yourself indispensable to the Board, and we could not have achieved all > that we have achieved this year without your help. Thank you! > > Your note has given me cause for some reflection, so I should like to > offer up some comments of my own for the consideration of our members. As > you know, collecting personal testimonies from students in support of the > AIMHEA Act and obtaining letters of support for the bill from institutions > of higher education are two of the most significant projects with which > NABS has concerned itself in the past year. Moreover, it is very easy to > track the number of letters we are getting from each state using such > tools as the Dropbox folder to which you refer. Therefore, it is tempting > to use this project as a means for judging the quality of a leader's > work--after all, the easiest and arguably most convincing test of a leader > is the "tangible results" he/she produces. However, it must be noted that these results are, in part, out of our control. In order for a leader to "collect" an AIMHEA letter from a member, the member from whom the letter is to be collected must first actually write the letter. Though it is important for those who are working on this project to follow up with potential supporters, the choice to submit a letter is ultimately in the hands of each member. As much as we leaders would love to see each member write a letter, call their Congressman, and request a meeting with their university officials, the fact is that some of our members are not as active as they could be. As leaders, then, our job is to encourage our members to remain active in advocating for the causes for which we fight. If they remain inactive despite our attempts to get them involved, that choice should not reflect on us. With that in mind, I ask you: Do you know how many people Vee contacted to solicit letters? Do you know the ratio of active members in New Jersey to letters written from that state? Do you know what role, if any, Vee played in the collection of the letters you cite? Surely she must have played some role as the state President in New Jersey. And what about letters collected from other states? What role, if any, did she play in acquiring those? If you have such information (information which I do not have,) please feel free to fill me in and I will be happy to take this into consideration at election time. Until then, frankly, I remain unconvinced. > > I am often reminded, however, that I can only speak for myself. Therefore, let me do that in the context of the present discussion. As you know, I serve as President of the Maryland Association of Blind Students, a position which I have occupied since November of 2015. In July of that year, I was elected to the board of the National Association of Blind Students. It will be observed, then, that I had 4 months of national leadership under my belt before being elected a state President. It will also be observed that I have been on the NABS Board a year longer than Vee has—a year in which I could have flooded my state's delegation with letters from students from whom I "collected" them. Indeed, my own AIMHEA letter was written on January 10, 2016—6 months before Vee was elected to the NABS Board, and approximately 2 weeks before she attended her first Washington Seminar, at which she had her first real exposure to our legislative work. Yet, according to the latest update I have received from the Chairman of our Legislative Committee, Maryland students have submitted a total of 7 letters. > > Is this a lapse in my leadership? Perhaps it is, and, if so, I would love to hear any tips you might have to offer on how to improve. But let us consider the stakes. This is Maryland—the state which serves as home to our national headquarters, home to President Riccobono himself, and home to the very governmental affairs team which we are helping by submitting these letters. Moreover, many of us in the Maryland student division consider our national leaders to be personal mentors, and these national leaders are often intimately involved with our work. In this context, what a dismal record! Even in Maryland, a state which other state leaders consider a model for them to follow, we only outnumber the statistic you cite by 1 solitary letter. Therefore, if we are to accept your premise, what unimaginable shame I must feel! What unspeakable fear I must have when I must admit to our members and leaders the deplorable results which my efforts have produced! What utter terror I must live in, always afraid that someone will find me out! Perhaps someone should appeal to the membership and mount a campaign to have me ousted from my current position. Perhaps my affiliate President should intervene and hand over all the important work to someone who will produce better results. Or perhaps I should simply resign in embarrassment and defeat. Yet, somehow, our members still trust me. Somehow they still call me seeking advice on Federation activities. And somehow they still elect me as their President. With such a completely disgusting showing of results, how can this be? > > Shannon, I, too, write this with no ill will toward you or anyone else. In fact, I write it with the greatest appreciation and respect for you. You picked up much of the work which I had failed in doing in the past year. You could have resented me and refused to do the work, but you simply picked up where I left off and gave your all for NABS's sake. So, this has nothing to do with you. I am only trying to make sure your "clarification" is placed in the proper perspective. I believe in the old adage that "there are two sides to every story." If this is true, it is important to consider weighty issues like these with both sides taken into account. Moreover, I believe that any argument which is to be deemed valid must be able to withstand the test of honest and reasonable questioning. This is why we ask tough questions of our candidates, and this is why we have this list as an open forum for the exchange of opinions. Let us continue to consider the arguments made and questions asked as we decide who our leaders will be. > > Yours in the movement, > > Chris Nusbaum > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon > Cantan via NABS-L > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 12:05 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Shannon Cantan > Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice > president > > Aloha Vee: > > Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was hesitant > in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the > membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees > are doing. > I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year > now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New > Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the > NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. > Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean > Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative > Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more > letters, that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send > them on over to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to > Michael, Tarik, and Kathryn. > Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for > NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the > month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. > > Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a > growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest > when holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to > that same standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does > everyone. We are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so > let's work together to do just that. ; I just wanted to point out some > miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine organization. > > Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. > > Best, > > Shannon KS Cantan > >>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello Dustin, >> I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was > elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar > I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While > I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and > started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall > University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach > committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls > and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative > committee and helping us build the Federation! >> Best, >> Vee Gaspa >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin >> Cather via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Dustin Cather >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president >> >> Hey Nathan, >> It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the > national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and > Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and > I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and > more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just > curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. >> Best.Dustin Cather >> >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> >> I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous > projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our > mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have > always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion > for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial > for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I > know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization > that her work will continue to do great things for blind students > throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever > has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our > organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I > need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why > I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for > the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that > you have my full support for this upcoming election. >> Sincerely, >> Nathan Clark >> >> Nathan Clark >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40ya >> hoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org >> >> Disclaimer >> >> The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others > authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby > notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in > relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and > may be unlawful. >> >> This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been > automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a > Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for > your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and > compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb% >> 40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.co > m > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hstaley%40nfbtx.org From nabs.president at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 01:34:24 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 21:34:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president In-Reply-To: References: <6400016E-878C-4636-B344-44D3FE4F2736@gmail.com> <5034905.13539374.1497562180276@mail.yahoo.com> <947A945F-888E-4BB5-A966-B017B0E340AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00eb01d2e7d3$0ace8cb0$206ba610$@gmail.com> Chris and all: I kindly ask this thread to be discontinued. I am saddened to see national leaders contributing to this back and forth. Harry: You are spot on. Shannon: thank you for clarifying factual information. Vee: thank you for trying to attain personal testimonies for equal access to education. Chris: thank you for your work and energy for the National Federation of the Blind. And membership: I am sorry that you must continue reading these messages. As president of the national Association of Blind Students, and one who leads with honesty and integrity, I ask that each of you consider leadership as you think about writing on our list. Think of our core values, our love, our goals, and our purpose. Think about inspiring others for a common good; think about enabling others to work; think about kindness and sincerity; think about leading by example. As Chris said, leadership is not about what you say, but about the tangible outcomes that come from your hard work. When I barely knew anyone in the Federation in 2015, but I had aspirations of being elected to the national student board, I worked, and I never gave up. If students did not want to write letters, I called them and wrote it for them. At the end of the day, it is not about credit or blame; it is about prioritizing and assuring our national goals are being met. I encourage each of you to consider this when taking on leadership. The strongest leaders are sometimes those that lead from behind. Please reflect on your intentions and thoughts as both members and leaders of the Federation. And then, think about those on this list that are not formal members. Ask yourself why? Why are you continuing to portray yourself as someone you are not or continuing negativity? This must stop now. We are here for one reason, and we are on a mailing list to share experiences, resources, announcements, and updates for the National Federation of the Blind and the national student division. I appreciate diverse opinions being shared, however this has gone too far on all counts. Again, I appreciate the discussion and now am closing this thread. For the Federation, Kathryn Webster President | National Association of Blind Students -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 7:38 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Chris Nusbaum Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president Dear Shannon: Let me begin by thanking you for your efforts to respectfully clarify what you perceive to be "miscommunicated information" in recent posts to this list. More importantly, let me express publicly my appreciation for the dedication and hard work which you have put into NABS in the past year, often without receiving the recognition you deserve. You have made yourself indispensable to the Board, and we could not have achieved all that we have achieved this year without your help. Thank you! Your note has given me cause for some reflection, so I should like to offer up some comments of my own for the consideration of our members. As you know, collecting personal testimonies from students in support of the AIMHEA Act and obtaining letters of support for the bill from institutions of higher education are two of the most significant projects with which NABS has concerned itself in the past year. Moreover, it is very easy to track the number of letters we are getting from each state using such tools as the Dropbox folder to which you refer. Therefore, it is tempting to use this project as a means for judging the quality of a leader's work--after all, the easiest and arguably most convincing test of a leader is the "tangible results" he/she produces. However, it must be noted that these results are, in part, out of our control. In order for a leader to "collect" an AIMHEA letter from a member, the member from whom the letter is to be collected must first actually write the letter. Though it is important for those who are working on this project to follow up with potential supporters, the choice to submit a letter is ultimately in the hands of each member. As much as we leaders would love to see each member write a letter, call their Congressman, and request a meeting with their university officials, the fact is that some of our members are not as active as they could be. As leaders, then, our job is to encourage our members to remain active in advocating for the causes for which we fight. If they remain inactive despite our attempts to get them involved, that choice should not reflect on us. With that in mind, I ask you: Do you know how many people Vee contacted to solicit letters? Do you know the ratio of active members in New Jersey to letters written from that state? Do you know what role, if any, Vee played in the collection of the letters you cite? Surely she must have played some role as the state President in New Jersey. And what about letters collected from other states? What role, if any, did she play in acquiring those? If you have such information (information which I do not have,) please feel free to fill me in and I will be happy to take this into consideration at election time. Until then, frankly, I remain unconvinced. I am often reminded, however, that I can only speak for myself. Therefore, let me do that in the context of the present discussion. As you know, I serve as President of the Maryland Association of Blind Students, a position which I have occupied since November of 2015. In July of that year, I was elected to the board of the National Association of Blind Students. It will be observed, then, that I had 4 months of national leadership under my belt before being elected a state President. It will also be observed that I have been on the NABS Board a year longer than Vee has—a year in which I could have flooded my state's delegation with letters from students from whom I "collected" them. Indeed, my own AIMHEA letter was written on January 10, 2016—6 months before Vee was elected to the NABS Board, and approximately 2 weeks before she attended her first Washington Seminar, at which she had her first real exposure to our legislative work. Yet, according to the latest update I have received from the Chairman of our Legislative Committee, Maryland students have submitted a total of 7 letters. Is this a lapse in my leadership? Perhaps it is, and, if so, I would love to hear any tips you might have to offer on how to improve. But let us consider the stakes. This is Maryland—the state which serves as home to our national headquarters, home to President Riccobono himself, and home to the very governmental affairs team which we are helping by submitting these letters. Moreover, many of us in the Maryland student division consider our national leaders to be personal mentors, and these national leaders are often intimately involved with our work. In this context, what a dismal record! Even in Maryland, a state which other state leaders consider a model for them to follow, we only outnumber the statistic you cite by 1 solitary letter. Therefore, if we are to accept your premise, what unimaginable shame I must feel! What unspeakable fear I must have when I must admit to our members and leaders the deplorable results which my efforts have produced! What utter terror I must live in, always afraid that someone will find me out! Perhaps someone should appeal to the membership and mount a campaign to have me ousted from my current position. Perhaps my affiliate President should intervene and hand over all the important work to someone who will produce better results. Or perhaps I should simply resign in embarrassment and defeat. Yet, somehow, our members still trust me. Somehow they still call me seeking advice on Federation activities. And somehow they still elect me as their President. With such a completely disgusting showing of results, how can this be? Shannon, I, too, write this with no ill will toward you or anyone else. In fact, I write it with the greatest appreciation and respect for you. You picked up much of the work which I had failed in doing in the past year. You could have resented me and refused to do the work, but you simply picked up where I left off and gave your all for NABS's sake. So, this has nothing to do with you. I am only trying to make sure your "clarification" is placed in the proper perspective. I believe in the old adage that "there are two sides to every story." If this is true, it is important to consider weighty issues like these with both sides taken into account. Moreover, I believe that any argument which is to be deemed valid must be able to withstand the test of honest and reasonable questioning. This is why we ask tough questions of our candidates, and this is why we have this list as an open forum for the exchange of opinions. Let us continue to consider the arguments made and questions asked as we decide who our leaders will be. Yours in the movement, Chris Nusbaum -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Cantan via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 12:05 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Shannon Cantan Subject: [nabs-l] Clarification Re: Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president Aloha Vee: Thank you for serving on the NABS Board this past year. I was hesitant in writing this message, but I feel that it is only fair for the membership to be made aware of the work the NABS Board and NABS committees are doing. I have worked closely with the NABS Legislative Committee for over a year now. According to our Dropbox folder, there are only 6 letters from New Jersey students, all of which were collected prior to your election on the NABS Board. In fact, these 6 letters were last modified on April 4, 2016. Moreover, they were collected by the previous president of NABS, Sean Whalen, as well as our current NABS President and our current Legislative Committee Chair Michael Ausbun. With this in mind, if you have more letters, that's awesome, but let's not hold them hostage and let's send them on over to our Government Affairs team in Baltimore, as well as to Michael, Tarik, and Kathryn. Now, onto the Outreach Committee. As the point person for social media for NABS, I thank you for gathering one blog post over the past year, for the month of May. I hope to see many more in the future. Again, I do not write this message with any negative intentions. As a growing leader in our organization, it is best to be upfront and honest when holding each other accountable, but more importantly, ourselves to that same standard. I, too, have dropped the ball on occasion, as does everyone. We are human. Regardless, we are fighting for the same goal, so let's work together to do just that. ; I just wanted to point out some miscommunicated information as a leader in this fine organization. Thanks for reading, and I hope we cross paths in Orlando. Best, Shannon KS Cantan >> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:17 AM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L >> > wrote: > > Hello Dustin, > I was actually co-chair of the legislative committee from when I was elected a board member of NABS last July and then after Washington Seminar I was moved to being one of the co-chairs of the outreach committee. While I was on the legislative committee I gathered many AIMHE letters and started the process of getting a letter from my college, Seton Hall University. Over the past 5 months much of my energy went to the outreach committee, getting monthly blogs, working on topics for the outreach calls and many other things. Thank you for being a part of the legislative committee and helping us build the Federation! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dustin > Cather via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:30 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Dustin Cather > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Support for Vee Gaspa for Bice president > > Hey Nathan, > It has been a pleasure working on the legislative committee on the national level. I would love to learn more about the projects that you and Vee have been working on since I have been involved only since January and I don't recall Vee being on any of the calls. As I am getting more and more involved with NABS and NFB on a legislative level and I was just curious about this past years progress that Vee has made. > Best.Dustin Cather > >> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:34 PM, Nathan Clark via NABS-L > wrote: > > > I have known Vee for about one year now working with her on numerous projects such as our legislative committee at the national level in our mid Atlantic regional similar which we hosted a few weeks ago and have always been impressed by her great leadership skills, energy and passion for our organization and I believe that these skills will be beneficial for her if she wins the position of vice president for our organization. I know that if she wins the position of vice president for our organization that her work will continue to do great things for blind students throughout this country into make our organization stronger than it ever has been.v I consider the both a leader in a friend of mine in our organization and I know that I can always talk to her about anything if I need to. All of the skills I believe are what makes a great leader and why I will be rooting for her this July in the election for vice president for the national Association of blind students. Vee I want you to know that you have my full support for this upcoming election. > Sincerely, > Nathan Clark > > Nathan Clark > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cather_dustin%40ya > hoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/shannoncantan.nfb% > 40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sun Jun 18 02:24:01 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:24:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP In-Reply-To: <010701d2e776$82e5ef70$88b1ce50$@gmail.com> References: <010701d2e776$82e5ef70$88b1ce50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello all, As an outsider not involved in the elections as I won't be at convention, this is interesting. I think all who have contributed supporting messages for both sides have great points and who ever wins, they will be a good leader. It seems like both vp candidates have done a lot for Nabs and furthering the movement already. I am sure it will be an interesting election! I want to say thanks to the candidates for running and I wish you all well as you watch the election coming up. I will gladly listen to it provided the nabs meeting is streamed as it has in the past. I'm curious what Vee's role was in the student seminar weekend at the national office. I understand she had a hand in organization but what went on there that she did. Was she a leader of some of the activities? It sounded like a fun and educational weekend especially the part about getting to grill. Considering the competition at hand that you all are talking about, it seems to be respectful. It is interesting to hear about what both candidates have done and why you all support them. I look forward to hearing the results of this election! Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Nesma Aly via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:32 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Nesma Aly Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Dear all, I want to first start by saying welcome to the Federation Garrett. Second, I am so very proud of Vee. As you all may know, the weekend of June second, students gathered at the NFB headquarters for a seminar. Vee did a wonderful job representing NJABS as well as organizing this wonderful gathering. She has a bright spirit as well as a very understanding personality. I have only known Vee for one weekend but can't wait to see what wonderful things she will continue to do. Please consider voting for VEE Gaspa! Thanks, Nesma -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:56 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Gaspa, Vee Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Thank you very much, Garrett, it has been great knowing you for so many years. Thank you for being there at 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM for me. I look forward to working with you and seeing you involved in the future! Most importantly, welcome to our Federation family! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Kearns via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:29 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Garrett Kearns Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with all of you in the future. Regards, Garrett Kearns Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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To find out more visit the Mimecast website. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sun Jun 18 02:29:28 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:29:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Endorsement of Michael Ausbun for 1st Vice President In-Reply-To: <28BCDBFE-087B-4D72-8A62-6748DDFEBA53@nfbtx.org> References: <28BCDBFE-087B-4D72-8A62-6748DDFEBA53@nfbtx.org> Message-ID: <45AAE178EF27428A8C0120451A3495D7@OwnerPC> Hi Harry, I like your reasons for voting for the candidate of your choice. It seems like both candidates though have done a lot. I'm wondering the status of Aim high since you brought it up. Are Vee and Michael the only candidates for VP? Just wondering because sometimes its only the popular or well known canidates who get recognized? If not, who are the other candidates? I hope elections go well. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Harry Staley via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:05 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Harry Staley Subject: [nabs-l] Endorsement of Michael Ausbun for 1st Vice President Good morning; I whole heartedly endorse Michael D. Ausbun for 1st Vice President of the National Association of Blind Students for the following reasons. 1. He is committed to the advancement of our movement as Federationists as evidenced by the following actions. a. He was one of the first students in the federation to deliver a letter of support for the AIM High act from his institution University of Nevada Reno. b. He has excelled as the legislative director for the Nevada Affiliate for the past two years. c. He currently serves as the Vice President of the Nevada Affiliate. d. He has served as an intern at the National Office in 2016. 2. He is committed to setting a positive example for his peers through the following: a. He is committed to developing his blindness skills and presenting a positive view of blindness. b. He fought to attend the Louisiana Center for the Blind and will graduate soon. The one thing that sets Michael apart is he heart to serve. I remember working with him to simply clean up some garbage that needed taken care of after the student seminar in Texas. it wasn’t his job, and he had another meeting to get to, but he inconvenienced himself to make sure that we left the conference room better than we found it. Harry A. Staley Jr. President San Antonio Chapter National Federation of the Blind _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sun Jun 18 02:46:54 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:46:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] jaws problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A72B6D635434131B3E38C4A38B38ECF@OwnerPC> Amy, I think this has happened to me as welll although not real recently. Are you using the latest updates to jaws? About once a month, they update it and you can get those updates for free. I suggest installing the updates if you have not done so already. Giving FS a call is probably the best thing to do because they need to know about it and where it happens. You are not the first person to have issues with jaws 18 since I've seen other people say the same thing on list servs. It might be a bug in jaws between it and Microsoft suite in later versions like Word 2016. I hope you get this resolved! Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Amy Sabo via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 7:25 PM To: NFB of Colorado Discussion List Cc: Amy Sabo ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: [nabs-l] jaws problems hello all, as the subject saysit all I'm having problems with jaws. I'm using it all of sudden it freezes up and, it won't talk at all. I have tried fixing it by sending error reports to freedom scientific but, nothing has happened either. I have also did a update in jfw. I'm using jaws 18 and, this problem is driving me insane!!!! so, is there anything someone can do me for this problem? if so email me off list or call me. if not then I will have to call freedom Scientific's tech support on Monday. thanks a bunch and, I look forward to hearing from anyone soon. hugs, amy _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From nabs.president at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 02:47:36 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:47:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP In-Reply-To: References: <010701d2e776$82e5ef70$88b1ce50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010501d2e7dd$431bcdd0$c9536970$@gmail.com> Hey Ashley! Great question! Vee and some other state student division leaders put together a great seminar! President Riccobono led discussions on Friday, and other Federationists did on Saturday. I was fortunate enough to attend this seminar and work with the student division presidents from Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York. This was one of many regional seminars we have conducted over the past year and even more special since it was at our national office! Thanks for the question. We will miss you in Orlando, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:24 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ashley Bramlett Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, As an outsider not involved in the elections as I won't be at convention, this is interesting. I think all who have contributed supporting messages for both sides have great points and who ever wins, they will be a good leader. It seems like both vp candidates have done a lot for Nabs and furthering the movement already. I am sure it will be an interesting election! I want to say thanks to the candidates for running and I wish you all well as you watch the election coming up. I will gladly listen to it provided the nabs meeting is streamed as it has in the past. I'm curious what Vee's role was in the student seminar weekend at the national office. I understand she had a hand in organization but what went on there that she did. Was she a leader of some of the activities? It sounded like a fun and educational weekend especially the part about getting to grill. Considering the competition at hand that you all are talking about, it seems to be respectful. It is interesting to hear about what both candidates have done and why you all support them. I look forward to hearing the results of this election! Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Nesma Aly via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:32 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Nesma Aly Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Dear all, I want to first start by saying welcome to the Federation Garrett. Second, I am so very proud of Vee. As you all may know, the weekend of June second, students gathered at the NFB headquarters for a seminar. Vee did a wonderful job representing NJABS as well as organizing this wonderful gathering. She has a bright spirit as well as a very understanding personality. I have only known Vee for one weekend but can't wait to see what wonderful things she will continue to do. Please consider voting for VEE Gaspa! Thanks, Nesma -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:56 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Gaspa, Vee Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Thank you very much, Garrett, it has been great knowing you for so many years. Thank you for being there at 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM for me. I look forward to working with you and seeing you involved in the future! Most importantly, welcome to our Federation family! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Kearns via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:29 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Garrett Kearns Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with all of you in the future. Regards, Garrett Kearns Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink. net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.c om From nabs.president at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 02:50:09 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:50:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Endorsement of Michael Ausbun for 1st Vice President In-Reply-To: <45AAE178EF27428A8C0120451A3495D7@OwnerPC> References: <28BCDBFE-087B-4D72-8A62-6748DDFEBA53@nfbtx.org> <45AAE178EF27428A8C0120451A3495D7@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <010601d2e7dd$9e3137a0$da93a6e0$@gmail.com> Ashley, We have 25 co-sponsors for HR 1772 last I checked, which is incredible! Hopefully that number will increase. As far as we know, Michael Ausbun and Vee Gaspa are the only two candidates running for the position of 1st Vice President. Since any member is welcome to run, we will certainly be transparent in making sure our membership knows of anyone else running. I must add, though, that this year is unique in the sense that we have adopted the idea of appointing a nominating committee, as our national board does. Thanks, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:29 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ashley Bramlett Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Endorsement of Michael Ausbun for 1st Vice President Hi Harry, I like your reasons for voting for the candidate of your choice. It seems like both candidates though have done a lot. I'm wondering the status of Aim high since you brought it up. Are Vee and Michael the only candidates for VP? Just wondering because sometimes its only the popular or well known canidates who get recognized? If not, who are the other candidates? I hope elections go well. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Harry Staley via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:05 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Harry Staley Subject: [nabs-l] Endorsement of Michael Ausbun for 1st Vice President Good morning; I whole heartedly endorse Michael D. Ausbun for 1st Vice President of the National Association of Blind Students for the following reasons. 1. He is committed to the advancement of our movement as Federationists as evidenced by the following actions. a. He was one of the first students in the federation to deliver a letter of support for the AIM High act from his institution University of Nevada Reno. b. He has excelled as the legislative director for the Nevada Affiliate for the past two years. c. He currently serves as the Vice President of the Nevada Affiliate. d. He has served as an intern at the National Office in 2016. 2. He is committed to setting a positive example for his peers through the following: a. He is committed to developing his blindness skills and presenting a positive view of blindness. b. He fought to attend the Louisiana Center for the Blind and will graduate soon. The one thing that sets Michael apart is he heart to serve. I remember working with him to simply clean up some garbage that needed taken care of after the student seminar in Texas. it wasn’t his job, and he had another meeting to get to, but he inconvenienced himself to make sure that we left the conference room better than we found it. Harry A. Staley Jr. President San Antonio Chapter National Federation of the Blind _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 02:53:03 2017 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:53:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP In-Reply-To: <010501d2e7dd$431bcdd0$c9536970$@gmail.com> References: <010701d2e776$82e5ef70$88b1ce50$@gmail.com> <010501d2e7dd$431bcdd0$c9536970$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2e7de$01ce02c0$056a0840$@gmail.com> Agreed The Successful Student Summer was a great seminar. It was planned, executed, and enjoyed by the work of Chris Nusbaum, Vee Gaspa, and I, with some outstanding assistance from the President of NYABS, Nihall and PABS representative Jason pulanski. I wishe you were able to come, but there will definitely be more on the horizon. Best Robert E. Parsons Jr. President, Richmond Chapter President, Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia Randolph Macon College '18 Phone: 804 200 3275 "Without struggle, there is no progress." -Frederick Douglass -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:48 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Kathryn Webster, NABS President Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hey Ashley! Great question! Vee and some other state student division leaders put together a great seminar! President Riccobono led discussions on Friday, and other Federationists did on Saturday. I was fortunate enough to attend this seminar and work with the student division presidents from Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York. This was one of many regional seminars we have conducted over the past year and even more special since it was at our national office! Thanks for the question. We will miss you in Orlando, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:24 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ashley Bramlett Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, As an outsider not involved in the elections as I won't be at convention, this is interesting. I think all who have contributed supporting messages for both sides have great points and who ever wins, they will be a good leader. It seems like both vp candidates have done a lot for Nabs and furthering the movement already. I am sure it will be an interesting election! I want to say thanks to the candidates for running and I wish you all well as you watch the election coming up. I will gladly listen to it provided the nabs meeting is streamed as it has in the past. I'm curious what Vee's role was in the student seminar weekend at the national office. I understand she had a hand in organization but what went on there that she did. Was she a leader of some of the activities? It sounded like a fun and educational weekend especially the part about getting to grill. Considering the competition at hand that you all are talking about, it seems to be respectful. It is interesting to hear about what both candidates have done and why you all support them. I look forward to hearing the results of this election! Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Nesma Aly via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:32 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Nesma Aly Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Dear all, I want to first start by saying welcome to the Federation Garrett. Second, I am so very proud of Vee. As you all may know, the weekend of June second, students gathered at the NFB headquarters for a seminar. Vee did a wonderful job representing NJABS as well as organizing this wonderful gathering. She has a bright spirit as well as a very understanding personality. I have only known Vee for one weekend but can't wait to see what wonderful things she will continue to do. Please consider voting for VEE Gaspa! Thanks, Nesma -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:56 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Gaspa, Vee Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Thank you very much, Garrett, it has been great knowing you for so many years. Thank you for being there at 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM for me. I look forward to working with you and seeing you involved in the future! Most importantly, welcome to our Federation family! Best, Vee Gaspa -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Kearns via NABS-L Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:29 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Garrett Kearns Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP Hello all, To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with all of you in the future. Regards, Garrett Kearns Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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It really was a fantastic event, and I hope you can join us in Orlando next year! Best, Vee Gaspa Vee Gaspa New Jersey Association of Blind Students, President National Association of Blind Students, board member Intern, National Federation of the Blind Phone, 410-659-9314 ext-2525 > On Jun 17, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey Ashley! > > Great question! Vee and some other state student division leaders put > together a great seminar! President Riccobono led discussions on Friday, and > other Federationists did on Saturday. I was fortunate enough to attend this > seminar and work with the student division presidents from Virginia, > Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York. This was one of many > regional seminars we have conducted over the past year and even more special > since it was at our national office! > > Thanks for the question. > > We will miss you in Orlando, > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:24 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Ashley Bramlett > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP > > Hello all, > > As an outsider not involved in the elections as I won't be at convention, > this is interesting. > I think all who have contributed supporting messages for both sides have > great points and who ever wins, they will be a good leader. It seems like > both vp candidates have done a lot for Nabs and furthering the movement > already. I am sure it will be an interesting election! > > I want to say thanks to the candidates for running and I wish you all well > as you watch the election coming up. I will gladly listen to it provided the > nabs meeting is streamed as it has in the past. > > I'm curious what Vee's role > was in the student seminar weekend at the national office. I understand she > had a hand in organization but what went on there that she did. Was she a > leader of some of the activities? It sounded like a fun and educational > weekend especially the part about getting to grill. > > Considering the competition at hand that you all are talking about, it seems > to be respectful. > It is interesting to hear about what both candidates have done and why you > all support them. > > I look forward to hearing the results of this election! > > Ashley > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nesma Aly via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:32 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Nesma Aly > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP > > Dear all, > I want to first start by saying welcome to the Federation Garrett. > Second, I am so very proud of Vee. As you all may know, the weekend of June > second, students gathered at the NFB headquarters for a seminar. Vee did a > wonderful job representing NJABS as well as organizing this wonderful > gathering. She has a bright spirit as well as a very understanding > personality. I have only known Vee for one weekend but can't wait to see > what wonderful things she will continue to do. Please consider voting for > VEE Gaspa! > Thanks, > Nesma > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gaspa, Vee via > NABS-L > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:56 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Gaspa, Vee > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP > > Thank you very much, Garrett, it has been great knowing you for so many > years. Thank you for being there at 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM for me. I look > forward to working with you and seeing you involved in the future! Most > importantly, welcome to our Federation family! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Kearns > via NABS-L > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:29 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Garrett Kearns > Subject: [nabs-l] endorsing Vee Gaspa for VP > > Hello all, > > To most of you I'm a new face among the crowd. to those who attended the > Northeastern Student Seminar last month I'm glad to have met all of you. To > my knowledge there has been some behind the scenes controversy in regard to > the upcoming election. In the past few months I've been an outsider, but > consider this email a statement of my opinion on the matter. > > Over many years I've witnessed Vee's transformation from a naive girl into > an independent and fearless leader. In the last year she's handled an > immense amount of responsibility, to the point where I find it staggering > she can do it all at once. There have been many late night phone calls about > how stressed and overwhelmed she is. In spite of that she continues to > succeed on a remarkable level, beyond what i ever could. Between NABS, > NJABS, and attending school full time she has been able to balance her > studies, duties to the NFB, and an active social life. > > She has dedicated herself to the Federation, and NABS in particular. > What impresses me even more is her capability to listen to all opinions, and > to be attentive to those who need her. This email is not intended to tell > you who to vote for, but to encourage you to consider where you cast your > vote carefully. I'm supporting Vee because I see her as the best person for > the job. Take this in mind when others pressure you to think otherwise. > > Thank you for your time. I look forward to working and collaborating with > all of you in the future. > > Regards, > Garrett Kearns > Member of the Virginia Association of Blind Students > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/vgaspa%40nfb.org > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others > authorized to receive it. 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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sun Jun 18 03:02:05 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 23:02:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] website accessibility problems at colleges Message-ID: <1361346E090D4077B384EBA7D97B36EB@OwnerPC> Hi all, I’ve attended our nearest community college off and on to gain further practice and knowledge in communication and business skills after my BA. It has also kept me learning and busy after college as I continue to seek employment. I have had interviews, but have not landed a job since competetion is fierce in this metro area. Anyways, still trying. I’ve attended Northern Virginia community college which is called Nova for short. While I recommend Nova for its academics, accomodations are quite lacking. One challenge is access to all of the school website with a screen reader. The website is not fully accessible. You can get to most of the main things you need with a screen reader. However problems arise on important webpages within the website. For instance, pages with tabs are a problem as you cannot always open the tabs or even know they are there. This was a problem for me on the library webpage until I figured out how to open the tabs with jaws. Then get out of the tab area to read it. Have any of you encountered systemic problems on your school’s site? Have any of you had success in getting the school to implement changes? I’m so frustrated and after going to the provost, I’m very tempted to go to the media or something. I think Nova might be violating the ADA or something by failing to make its website accessible. I am so frustrated because I made the head disability support coordinator aware of it. She promised something would be done. The latest update to the site which was about 2 years ago made the problems worse. I’ve further complained and nothing has been done except they acknowledge the problems and said they passed my concerns on to the website team. Its frustrating that website accessibility seems to be a low priority for the school. I’d like to write a thourough letter to the school provost. Are there any laws that apply to websites? If so, which ones and which sections? Thanks. Ashley From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 03:21:29 2017 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 23:21:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] website accessibility problems at colleges In-Reply-To: <1361346E090D4077B384EBA7D97B36EB@OwnerPC> References: <1361346E090D4077B384EBA7D97B36EB@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <000e01d2e7e1$fa9d0ce0$efd726a0$@gmail.com> Ashley As NOVA is a VCCS college, I think that you should take a chance to connect with me. I graduated from Reynolds Community College, whichis located in Richmond and is part of the VCCS. They have the same main network and set up in terms of the website. Feel free to contact me about accommodations for this issue because I actually work there part time as a liaison for the Office of Student Accommodations. Best Regards Robert E. Parsons Jr. President, Richmond Chapter President, Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia Randolph Macon College '18 Phone: 804 200 3275 "Without struggle, there is no progress." -Frederick Douglass -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 11:02 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ashley Bramlett Subject: [nabs-l] website accessibility problems at colleges Hi all, I’ve attended our nearest community college off and on to gain further practice and knowledge in communication and business skills after my BA. It has also kept me learning and busy after college as I continue to seek employment. I have had interviews, but have not landed a job since competetion is fierce in this metro area. Anyways, still trying. I’ve attended Northern Virginia community college which is called Nova for short. While I recommend Nova for its academics, accomodations are quite lacking. One challenge is access to all of the school website with a screen reader. The website is not fully accessible. You can get to most of the main things you need with a screen reader. However problems arise on important webpages within the website. For instance, pages with tabs are a problem as you cannot always open the tabs or even know they are there. This was a problem for me on the library webpage until I figured out how to open the tabs with jaws. Then get out of the tab area to read it. Have any of you encountered systemic problems on your school’s site? Have any of you had success in getting the school to implement changes? I’m so frustrated and after going to the provost, I’m very tempted to go to the media or something. I think Nova might be violating the ADA or something by failing to make its website accessible. I am so frustrated because I made the head disability support coordinator aware of it. She promised something would be done. The latest update to the site which was about 2 years ago made the problems worse. I’ve further complained and nothing has been done except they acknowledge the problems and said they passed my concerns on to the website team. Its frustrating that website accessibility seems to be a low priority for the school. I’d like to write a thourough letter to the school provost. Are there any laws that apply to websites? If so, which ones and which sections? Thanks. Ashley _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rob.parso3389%40gmail.com From leena.salim at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 16:46:09 2017 From: leena.salim at gmail.com (Leena Bandy) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:46:09 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] intro Message-ID: <20170618164609.leena.salim@gmail.com> Hello everyone. My name is Leena and I live in Austin, Texas. I am kind of a returning newbie. I was around for a while about ten years ago working with CABS as a board member and then as secretary. I stepped away for a while and have just recently returned to the Federation. I am applying to attend the University of Texas to study International Relations. I look forward to meeting many of you in Orlando and am very excited to be back. Leena From mausbun at unr.edu Sun Jun 18 16:54:16 2017 From: mausbun at unr.edu (Michael D Ausbun) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:54:16 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] intro In-Reply-To: <20170618164609.leena.salim@gmail.com> References: <20170618164609.leena.salim@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Leena, Welcome back, looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Leena Bandy via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone. My name is Leena and I live in Austin, Texas. I am kind of a returning newbie. I was around for a while about ten years ago working with CABS as a board member and then as secretary. I stepped away for a while and have just recently returned to the Federation. I am applying to attend the University of Texas to study International Relations. I look forward to meeting many of you in Orlando and am very excited to be back. > Leena > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=01%7C01%7Cmausbun%40unr.edu%7C75e141bc78ec430af79208d4b669a6b1%7C523b4bfc0ebd4c03b2b96f6a17fd31d8%7C1&sdata=VslKVlJYNpHsbwpbPnTNMICFUq9PYXnnzkikgWtxO%2Bo%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fmausbun%2540unr.edu&data=01%7C01%7Cmausbun%40unr.edu%7C75e141bc78ec430af79208d4b669a6b1%7C523b4bfc0ebd4c03b2b96f6a17fd31d8%7C1&sdata=TpPoRY6lkHhFbWACfPj9E%2FqinjPk0PFsCnX78yPD3ds%3D&reserved=0 From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 18 19:17:33 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:17:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] intro In-Reply-To: <20170618164609.leena.salim@gmail.com> References: <20170618164609.leena.salim@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01d2e867$8ad1b380$a0751a80$@sbcglobal.net> Welcome! I have just finished a medical transcription course and am about to start on-the-job training (OJT) as soon as all the paperwork is in order. I look forward to your posts. spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Leena Bandy via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:46 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Leena Bandy Subject: [nabs-l] intro Hello, everyone. My name is Leena, and I live in Austin, Texas. I am kind of a returning newbie. I was around for a while about ten years ago working with CABS as a board member and then as secretary. I stepped away for a while and have just recently returned to the Federation. I am applying to attend the University of Texas to study International Relations. I look forward to meeting many of you in Orlando and am very excited to be back. Leena _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Sun Jun 18 21:04:45 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:04:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] website accessibility problems at colleges In-Reply-To: <1361346E090D4077B384EBA7D97B36EB@OwnerPC> References: <1361346E090D4077B384EBA7D97B36EB@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <003a01d2e876$850359e0$8f0a0da0$@sarahblakelarose.com> Hi, Ashley. I contacted my school's disability service office about these problems--they are also responsible for ADA implementation at the university. I offered to take my laptop in to the offending department and demonstrate for the person who was responsible for overseeing the web site for that department. This was a tremendous help for them, and they worked out new solutions and had me back in to test a couple of times. Then they shared their solutions across all departments and the result was much better accessibility. Sarah Blake LaRose http://www.sarahblakelarose.com Accessible instruction in Biblical languages -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 11:02 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ashley Bramlett Subject: [nabs-l] website accessibility problems at colleges Hi all, I’ve attended our nearest community college off and on to gain further practice and knowledge in communication and business skills after my BA. It has also kept me learning and busy after college as I continue to seek employment. I have had interviews, but have not landed a job since competetion is fierce in this metro area. Anyways, still trying. I’ve attended Northern Virginia community college which is called Nova for short. While I recommend Nova for its academics, accomodations are quite lacking. One challenge is access to all of the school website with a screen reader. The website is not fully accessible. You can get to most of the main things you need with a screen reader. However problems arise on important webpages within the website. For instance, pages with tabs are a problem as you cannot always open the tabs or even know they are there. This was a problem for me on the library webpage until I figured out how to open the tabs with jaws. Then get out of the tab area to read it. Have any of you encountered systemic problems on your school’s site? Have any of you had success in getting the school to implement changes? I’m so frustrated and after going to the provost, I’m very tempted to go to the media or something. I think Nova might be violating the ADA or something by failing to make its website accessible. I am so frustrated because I made the head disability support coordinator aware of it. She promised something would be done. The latest update to the site which was about 2 years ago made the problems worse. I’ve further complained and nothing has been done except they acknowledge the problems and said they passed my concerns on to the website team. Its frustrating that website accessibility seems to be a low priority for the school. I’d like to write a thourough letter to the school provost. Are there any laws that apply to websites? If so, which ones and which sections? Thanks. Ashley _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Sun Jun 18 21:22:47 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:22:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Join the legislative committee Wednesday the 21rst! Message-ID: <003b01d2e879$08f5a990$1ae0fcb0$@nevada.unr.edu> Good Afternoon NABSters! This month, congress has been, and will continue to be in session for the entire four weeks of June! As we head into the last two weeks of the month, we want to give another push for our legislative priorities. Have you ever asked yourself how might I talk with my congress person or senator? Perhaps you need a small refresher on what legislation we are pushing forward, and what legislation we are opposing as the National Federation of the Blind. Perhaps you just want to hear about our progress so far. Please join the student division’s legislative committee this up and coming Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:00 P.M Eastern (7 Central, 6 Mountain, and 5 Pacific) to discuss our legislative priorities–what they are, what we can do, and what is the current progress, and get pumped up to talk with your congressional delegation! Please dial: (712) 770-5197 Access code: 265669 I look forward to hearing all of you Wednesday; remember, although we can affect the world as individuals, when we act as a collective group, we are that much more effective. Let’s go out there and change what it means to be blind and demonstrate that we can live the lives we want! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun, Secretary National Association of Blind Students A proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 21:24:02 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:24:02 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] intro In-Reply-To: <20170618164609.leena.salim@gmail.com> References: <20170618164609.leena.salim@gmail.com> Message-ID: <139a01d2e879$35d0f820$a172e860$@gmail.com> Welcome back. Look forward to catching up in Orlando! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Leena Bandy via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 11:46 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Leena Bandy Subject: [nabs-l] intro Hello everyone. My name is Leena and I live in Austin, Texas. I am kind of a returning newbie. I was around for a while about ten years ago working with CABS as a board member and then as secretary. I stepped away for a while and have just recently returned to the Federation. I am applying to attend the University of Texas to study International Relations. I look forward to meeting many of you in Orlando and am very excited to be back. Leena _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From piano.girl0299 at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:42:20 2017 From: piano.girl0299 at gmail.com (Kelsey Nicolay) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:42:20 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] brailliant Message-ID: <59471e0a.60886b0a.c3316.bcd8@mx.google.com> Hello i was hoping someone who uses a Brailliant could help me out. The past two times I've tried to update the firmware on my Brailliant, for some reason braille support becomes unresponsive when I restart whichever screen reader I am using. Even when I use Nvda to perform the update, I sometimes get an error when I restart JAWS that the application file has stopped responding. This past week I did the update and it seemed to work ok, but once the computer restarted after an update, neither Nvda nor JAWS would recognize my Brailliant. I get the application file error mentioned above with JAWS. At work, we did the update with JAWS turned off and it worked fine. Therefore, if anyone uses a Brailliant, please email me off list with the steps to update the firmware using a screen reader so I don't keep having problems with my screen reader after the update. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay From ljmaher at swbell.net Mon Jun 19 11:15:23 2017 From: ljmaher at swbell.net (Louis Maher) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 06:15:23 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] brailliant In-Reply-To: <59471e0a.60886b0a.c3316.bcd8@mx.google.com> References: <59471e0a.60886b0a.c3316.bcd8@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <008801d2e8ed$590f3df0$0b2db9d0$@swbell.net> Hello Kelsey, I will suggest that you talk to the people who sold you the display. If it is the original Brailliant, originally sold by HumanWare, the display is the Baum Supervario, and you can get help from: BAUM USA 855-620-7985 customer service cs at baumusa.com . Regards Louis Maher Phone: 713-444-7838 E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 7:42 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [nabs-l] brailliant Hello i was hoping someone who uses a Brailliant could help me out. The past two times I've tried to update the firmware on my Brailliant, for some reason braille support becomes unresponsive when I restart whichever screen reader I am using. Even when I use Nvda to perform the update, I sometimes get an error when I restart JAWS that the application file has stopped responding. This past week I did the update and it seemed to work ok, but once the computer restarted after an update, neither Nvda nor JAWS would recognize my Brailliant. I get the application file error mentioned above with JAWS. At work, we did the update with JAWS turned off and it worked fine. Therefore, if anyone uses a Brailliant, please email me off list with the steps to update the firmware using a screen reader so I don't keep having problems with my screen reader after the update. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ljmaher%40swbell.net From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 14:04:41 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 10:04:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ANNOUNCEMENT: Candidates' Forum for the position of 1st Vice President of NABS Message-ID: <009801d2e905$138aaf90$3aa00eb0$@gmail.com> Good morning, students: Happy almost summer! Convention is in 3 weeks, and I cannot be any more excited to connect with so many of you in Orlando! This message serves as an announcement regarding our candidates' Forum. This will take place on Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 8pm eastern. I encourage anyone attending National Convention, or anyone interested in hearing from our 1st vice presidential candidates, to tune into our conference call. It is exceedingly important to hear from our membership. With this in mind, I am asking for question submissions to be sent to me at nabs.president at gmail.com by Saturday, July 1 by noon. Since I will be moderating the forum, it would be most helpful to have them sent ahead of time. Please note that not all questions will be presented since I'm confident that I will receive an overwhelming number of questions. Regardless, I will make sure to pose elaborate and insightful questions that will get our candidates thinking. This allows for our membership to better learn about our candidates and the future of the National Association of Blind Students. Of course, let's be kind, intentional, and respectful when thinking of riveting questions to ask. I am excited for this call, and hope you are, too! Call: 712-770-5197 Access code: 265669 8pm eastern Sunday, July 2 Please let me know if you have any questions; and get those questions submitted! Love, Kathryn Webster President | National Association of Blind Students From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:15:49 2017 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 22:15:49 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services Message-ID: Hello all, I had an appointment with the career advisor on campus today. My appointment did not go very well. So I am curious if anyone else on the email list has made use of the career services on campus as well as what your experience making use of the career services on campus might be. Basically, I was told that she did not have the expertise to help students with disabilities. So rather than assist me and exploring possible career choices that would match my interests and abilities, she spent most of the time trying to figure out where else I might be able to go to receive assistance in exploring career choices as a student with a disability. However, I was simply seeking The same career advising that is offered to any other student on campus. I ended up walking out of my appointment early because I was so frustrated that the career advisor was simply focusing on my disabilities rather than provide me with the career advising that is provided to any other student on campus. Even though the career advisor denies this, I definitely felt as though I was being discriminated against based on my disabilities. Has anyone else experienced a similar situation when working with career services on campus? If so, how did you deal with this situation? I would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions as to how I might be able to deal with the situation. Thanks, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone From misokwak12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:50:43 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:50:43 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Elizabeth, I am sorry that you experienced this. I have used my university's career service only 2 or 3 times, and my experience was mostly positive, so I cannot relate 100% but if something like this happened to me, I would consider talking either to the counselor's supervisor or the university's disability service office. On 6/19/17, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, > > I had an appointment with the career advisor on campus today. My appointment > did not go very well. So I am curious if anyone else on the email list has > made use of the career services on campus as well as what your experience > making use of the career services on campus might be. > > Basically, I was told that she did not have the expertise to help students > with disabilities. So rather than assist me and exploring possible career > choices that would match my interests and abilities, she spent most of the > time trying to figure out where else I might be able to go to receive > assistance in exploring career choices as a student with a disability. > However, I was simply seeking The same career advising that is offered to > any other student on campus. I ended up walking out of my appointment early > because I was so frustrated that the career advisor was simply focusing on > my disabilities rather than provide me with the career advising that is > provided to any other student on campus. > > Even though the career advisor denies this, I definitely felt as though I > was being discriminated against based on my disabilities. Has anyone else > experienced a similar situation when working with career services on > campus? If so, how did you deal with this situation? I would greatly > appreciate any and all suggestions as to how I might be able to deal with > the situation. > > Thanks, > Elizabeth > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Mon Jun 19 22:53:48 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 18:53:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ba01d2e94e$eabb25a0$c03170e0$@sarahblakelarose.com> Hi, Elizabeth. I would advise speaking to this person's supervisor so that she can receive appropriate training. She was likely not attempting to discriminate against you but was definitely unprepared for her encounter with you. I suggest going back and informing her that you are not seeking, nor do you expect to use, services for people with disabilities. Stand your ground and inform her that you are a student of the university who is seeking job placement services appropriate for a person with your interests and degree and that you expect to be provided the same service that any other student would receive. If she refuses to serve you again, file a written complaint with her supervisor, copied to the office of students with disabilities and the university president. If you don't get satisfactory service after this, pursue additional avenues for getting your needs met. I have not used disability-related services for job placement since obtaining my graduate degrees--they are not equipped to provide appropriate job leads in specialized fields in the manner that university placement services are. Sarah Blake LaRose http://www.sarahblakelarose.com Accessible instruction in Biblical languages -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:16 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services Hello all, I had an appointment with the career advisor on campus today. My appointment did not go very well. So I am curious if anyone else on the email list has made use of the career services on campus as well as what your experience making use of the career services on campus might be. Basically, I was told that she did not have the expertise to help students with disabilities. So rather than assist me and exploring possible career choices that would match my interests and abilities, she spent most of the time trying to figure out where else I might be able to go to receive assistance in exploring career choices as a student with a disability. However, I was simply seeking The same career advising that is offered to any other student on campus. I ended up walking out of my appointment early because I was so frustrated that the career advisor was simply focusing on my disabilities rather than provide me with the career advising that is provided to any other student on campus. Even though the career advisor denies this, I definitely felt as though I was being discriminated against based on my disabilities. Has anyone else experienced a similar situation when working with career services on campus? If so, how did you deal with this situation? I would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions as to how I might be able to deal with the situation. Thanks, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:59:07 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 18:59:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services In-Reply-To: <00ba01d2e94e$eabb25a0$c03170e0$@sarahblakelarose.com> References: <00ba01d2e94e$eabb25a0$c03170e0$@sarahblakelarose.com> Message-ID: <02b501d2e94f$a84b6fd0$f8e24f70$@gmail.com> It is definitely a conversation with the supervisor. She shouldn't be attempting to pawn you off onto someone else. As a university student, it is your right to use those services. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:54 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services Hi, Elizabeth. I would advise speaking to this person's supervisor so that she can receive appropriate training. She was likely not attempting to discriminate against you but was definitely unprepared for her encounter with you. I suggest going back and informing her that you are not seeking, nor do you expect to use, services for people with disabilities. Stand your ground and inform her that you are a student of the university who is seeking job placement services appropriate for a person with your interests and degree and that you expect to be provided the same service that any other student would receive. If she refuses to serve you again, file a written complaint with her supervisor, copied to the office of students with disabilities and the university president. If you don't get satisfactory service after this, pursue additional avenues for getting your needs met. I have not used disability-related services for job placement since obtaining my graduate degrees--they are not equipped to provide appropriate job leads in specialized fields in the manner that university placement services are. Sarah Blake LaRose http://www.sarahblakelarose.com Accessible instruction in Biblical languages -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:16 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services Hello all, I had an appointment with the career advisor on campus today. My appointment did not go very well. So I am curious if anyone else on the email list has made use of the career services on campus as well as what your experience making use of the career services on campus might be. Basically, I was told that she did not have the expertise to help students with disabilities. So rather than assist me and exploring possible career choices that would match my interests and abilities, she spent most of the time trying to figure out where else I might be able to go to receive assistance in exploring career choices as a student with a disability. However, I was simply seeking The same career advising that is offered to any other student on campus. I ended up walking out of my appointment early because I was so frustrated that the career advisor was simply focusing on my disabilities rather than provide me with the career advising that is provided to any other student on campus. Even though the career advisor denies this, I definitely felt as though I was being discriminated against based on my disabilities. Has anyone else experienced a similar situation when working with career services on campus? If so, how did you deal with this situation? I would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions as to how I might be able to deal with the situation. Thanks, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From eemcrew at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 23:22:30 2017 From: eemcrew at gmail.com (Ellana Crew) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 19:22:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services In-Reply-To: <02b501d2e94f$a84b6fd0$f8e24f70$@gmail.com> References: <00ba01d2e94e$eabb25a0$c03170e0$@sarahblakelarose.com> <02b501d2e94f$a84b6fd0$f8e24f70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <990BA4C1-DA6C-48A9-93A6-730FC4B2B2AD@gmail.com> Hi Elizabeth, I have not used my campus's career services, but I agree with much of what is being said here. I think it would be very important to speak with somebody else in the department/the head of the department. I wouldn't go straight to hire college personal like deans or anything yet until you try to resolve the problem within the department, but I think it would be a great first step. What I also think would be really important to do is point out that while you are disabled, your disability does not automatically disqualify you from certain jobs or mean that you have to look for a specific range of jobs, because we know that as blind people we can do just about anything out there. I would make it a point of noting that they should not feel they have to take any special considerations into mind and try to think specifically about what a blind person can do, and should focus just on your skills and qualifications as any other student. Make sure to let them know that you as the disabled person are the best expert on what you can and cannot do and will let them know if something they recommend would not be doable for any reason. I would essentially ask them to just treat you as any other non-disabled student, and if there is something that you definitely can't do because of blindness such as something obvious like a driving job, that you will be the one to let them know and that they do not need to try and pick and choose based on what they believe a blind person is capable of. Essentially, let them know that the person does not need to have some sort of special expertise in finding jobs for the disabled, and that they just need to know how to help any student find a job and that you will be the one to set the boundaries of what you can and cannot do and they don't need to worry about doing that for you. It's important to let them know that you are the best expert on you. Again, I'm sorry I can't offer any more particular advice for career services specifically, but hopefully this can be helpful for future conversations with other faculty in the department! Ellana Crew, Vice President Maryland Association of Blind Students Website: nfbmd.org/students Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation Twitter: @MDABS_NFB The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > On Jun 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > It is definitely a conversation with the supervisor. She shouldn't be > attempting to pawn you off onto someone else. As a university student, it > is your right to use those services. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via > NABS-L > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:54 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services > > Hi, Elizabeth. > > I would advise speaking to this person's supervisor so that she can receive > appropriate training. She was likely not attempting to discriminate against > you but was definitely unprepared for her encounter with you. I suggest > going back and informing her that you are not seeking, nor do you expect to > use, services for people with disabilities. Stand your ground and inform her > that you are a student of the university who is seeking job placement > services appropriate for a person with your interests and degree and that > you expect to be provided the same service that any other student would > receive. If she refuses to serve you again, file a written complaint with > her supervisor, copied to the office of students with disabilities and the > university president. If you don't get satisfactory service after this, > pursue additional avenues for getting your needs met. I have not used > disability-related services for job placement since obtaining my graduate > degrees--they are not equipped to provide appropriate job leads in > specialized fields in the manner that university placement services are. > > > > Sarah Blake LaRose > http://www.sarahblakelarose.com > Accessible instruction in Biblical languages > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth > Mohnke via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:16 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke > Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services > > > Hello all, > > I had an appointment with the career advisor on campus today. My appointment > did not go very well. So I am curious if anyone else on the email list has > made use of the career services on campus as well as what your experience > making use of the career services on campus might be. > > Basically, I was told that she did not have the expertise to help students > with disabilities. So rather than assist me and exploring possible career > choices that would match my interests and abilities, she spent most of the > time trying to figure out where else I might be able to go to receive > assistance in exploring career choices as a student with a disability. > However, I was simply seeking The same career advising that is offered to > any other student on campus. I ended up walking out of my appointment early > because I was so frustrated that the career advisor was simply focusing on > my disabilities rather than provide me with the career advising that is > provided to any other student on campus. > > Even though the career advisor denies this, I definitely felt as though I > was being discriminated against based on my disabilities. Has anyone else > experienced a similar situation when working with career services on > campus? If so, how did you deal with this situation? I would greatly > appreciate any and all suggestions as to how I might be able to deal with > the situation. > > Thanks, > Elizabeth > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com From VGaspa at nfb.org Tue Jun 20 01:27:28 2017 From: VGaspa at nfb.org (Gaspa, Vee) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 01:27:28 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Elections Message-ID: Dear all: Thank you to all those who have been supporting me for NABS 1st Vice President. Do to some personal issues, I have decided to withdraw from all NABS election races for this summer, and I will decline any nominations made from the floor at the annual seminar and business meeting. I recognize I am not ready for this leadership role; and encourage each of you to fully support Michael Ausbun for the position of NABS 1st vice President this summer. Michael is exceptionally qualified; and will represent the National Association of Blind Students incredibly well. He has been a role model to me, and so many of you. I am excited to see what great things NABS will do in the upcoming year. I look forward to seeing all of you at convention in a few weeks and working with you all to continue building the National Federation of the Blind! 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Let me also add that I echo your sentiments about Michael. He is an exceptional leader who believes strongly in the Federation and in our members. He will make a great First Vice President, and I pledge to support him in any way I can. Yours for the Federation, Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear all: > Thank you to all those who have been supporting me for NABS 1st Vice President. Do to some personal issues, I have decided to withdraw from all NABS election races for this summer, and I will decline any nominations made from the floor at the annual seminar and business meeting. I recognize I am not ready for this leadership role; and encourage each of you to fully support Michael Ausbun for the position of NABS 1st vice President this summer. Michael is exceptionally qualified; and will represent the National Association of Blind Students incredibly well. He has been a role model to me, and so many of you. I am excited to see what great things NABS will do in the upcoming year. I look forward to seeing all of you at convention in a few weeks and working with you all to continue building the National Federation of the Blind! > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > > Veronica Gaspa > Summer Intern > 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 > (410) 659-9314, extension 2525 | VGaspa at nfb.org > > > [National Federation of the Blind] > > [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] > > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. 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To find out more visit the Mimecast website. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 06:02:34 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 23:02:34 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions Regarding Campus Career Services Message-ID: <5948ba87.d449620a.f6b72.798f@mx.google.com> Hi Elizabeth, I think you've had some great suggesttions, but I think, before going to your supervisor, that you should simply see another counselor on campus who could be more helpful. My school has at least 5 advisors. I'm going to be switching counselors next year because I didn't find my counselor helpful, although it had nothing to do with my blindness. She had a very relaxed attitude about freshmen students in the career office, and felt that freshmen in general didn't have to go to career fairs and that it was really early for us to want to write our resumes. Obviously none of this is true. I do think that this would be a better option to start with than going to a supervisor; you could then simply say, if asked, that you switched counselors because it wasn't working out. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L Hi Vee, I'm so sorry. I don't think I've ever spoken to you personally, but I just wanted to say I wish the best for you and hope you can run for a board position. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaspa, Vee via NABS-L" [Twitter] [Youtube] Good morning students: For those who are planning on starting college in the fall of this year, look no further. Enclosed, you will find an announcement regarding a special offer for those interested. Please direct any questions to me at nabs.president at gmail.com . A huge thank you to Aira for continuing a lasting partnership with the national Federation of the Blind, most notably, our students. Back to School Aira Award Eligibility Requirements * Students entering into a university/college program in the Fall of 2017; * Students attending the National Convention of the National Federation of the Blind How to Win? We love great stories! During the 2017 National Convention of the National Federation of the Blind, we're looking for students to share a story with our judges in a 1-minute pitch. When: Wednesday, July 12 from 8-10pm Where: National association of Blind Students (NABS) Olympics Location: Wekiwa 4, level 2 1-Minute Pitch Tell us how technology benefits you in achieving independence in your daily life. This story should highlight one idea on how a service like Aira could help make your transition to this exciting stage of your life the best it can be. Helpful hints: * Briefly describe the challenge. It could be navigating a new campus or city, mastering a transportation system or shopping for items in the campus bookstore. * Tell us how a visual assistant service might help. Beyond providing visual cues, how might a service like this make you feel. * Tell us what features you make this an even more autonomous offering. What would you add or change to enhance your abilities to act even more independently? Why Participate? Initially, college students typically face challenges in the fast-moving environment of higher education or campus life. Access to visual and environmental information whenever and wherever they need it can help navigate these challenges. Your story helps us understand those challenges and helps us create the best solution for your needs. What You Win * Winners will receive Aira's Student Package that covers nine full months of Aira's service. * The top winner will be named an "Aira Student Advisor" and join some of the top minds in business and the blind and low-vision community in helping shape the future of our services. * Ten students will be announced during the Annual Banquet of the National Federation of the Blind on Saturday, July 15, 2017. More Information: What is Aira? Aira is a service for blind and low-vision people that provides immediate, time-relevant access to visual information about surroundings or items at the point-of-need by fusing technology and human interaction. * Smart glasses that capture video, GPS data and other sensor inputs of the user's surroundings * Broadband network to remotely connect the user with a visual assistant---we call them "Agents" either human or software. * Trained agents utilizing a dashboard that displays camera information as well as a range of other sources and feeds that enable real-time interaction to inform the user of what is in their immediate and adjacent surroundings and environments. These might include access to restaurant reviews and locations, current transportation schedules, alerts to weather or construction along routes and other relevant and time sensitive information. * Software that enables agents to access and provide deep and robust location-specific information to the users to help them navigate, select and locate venues, locate their seat at sporting events, read signs or take other actions that enhance their learning experience. Today, students on college campuses are using the Aira services to independently navigate campuses, master transportation systems, shop, and learn more about the surroundings and environment that will be their home for four or more years. Aira aims to integrate students into the mainstream of campus life and the college experience in a whole new way. You can learn more at www.Aira.io Good luck! Kathryn Webster President | national Association of Blind Students From dsmithnfb at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 16:35:50 2017 From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:35:50 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Community Service Division activities Message-ID: Good Morning, I just wanted to pass along the following information regarding Community Service Division activities. Please feel free to pass along to others. Please be in touch with the respective contacts for each of the below announcements or reply to me directly if no contact is listed. join us on Sunday, June 25 at 8:00 PM Eastern for a conference call all about the Community Service Division's activities at this year's NFB National Convention. To participate, just call (712) 432-0140 and enter passcode 808277. Annual Seminar and Business Meeting Our annual seminar and business meeting will take place on Wednesday, July 12 from 6:00 PM to 10:00 PM in Wekiwa 10. Registration starts at 6:00, and the meeting starts at 6:30. Check out the following link to preregister for this exciting and informative seminar. Trivia Night Trivia night will take place on Thursday, July 13 from 9:00 PM to midnight in Panzacola Ballroom H-2. Check out the following link to sign up . At Convention this July, we will be partnering with NFB Camp for a fun and exciting Community Service project focusing on random acts of kindness. The children will be creating colorful signs or cards with positive words of encouragement. We will then be taking them out to the parking lot of the hotel, where they will place their cards on guests' cars to brighten their day. This project is intended to teach children who are blind that they can make an impact on others at a young age, and show community members that children who are blind can give to those around them. We are looking for volunteers who would enjoy helping children to create cards and help them distribute the cards in the parking lot. This event will be taking place on July 10th from 3 to 5 PM. If you would be interested in volunteering for this event, please email me at: taranabella0 at gmail.com I am so excited to see the impact the children will be making, and look forward to having you join us! The Community Service Division is shining in service, and you can too! For only 10 dollars, you'll have the chance to win a stunning square-shaped diamond cluster earring and double-halo ring set from Kay Jewelers. That's right - only 10 bucks for the chance to win BOTH items! If you're interested in purchasing raffle tickets, please contact Jeanetta Price at jmaprice at yahoo.com or find any member of the division at National Convention! Thank you in advance for supporting the efforts put forth by the Community Service Division! From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 04:49:15 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:49:15 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please Message-ID: <594b4c5c.4faf630a.dc251.283e@mx.google.com> Hi All, I have been an avid Bookshare user for quite a long time. Previously, I always downloaded books onto my Braillenote Apex, but in preparation for the security updates next week where Bookshare will no longer support the Apex, I have been trying to download them onto my computer (Dell Latitude, Windows 10, Jaws 18), and am running into some issues. First, there is no confirmation of any kind that I have downloaded the book, or any option for me to pick where I want the book to go. Also, once I download books, I can't find them on my computer. I have tried: - Going to the "downloads" folder. I can't find any of the books in there. - Doing a general search in the start menu of the book title using the underline symbol in between words, which is how books are saved, but I haven't been able to find them. When I go into the my history section, the status of the books show that they have downloaded. Does anyone have any idea where my books could be going? Thanks, Vejas From braillemasterjustin at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 14:24:13 2017 From: braillemasterjustin at gmail.com (Justin Heard) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:24:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53275316-d5ef-dd8c-1b28-cdd013897f15@gmail.com> First, which web browser are you using. I recommend Mozilla Firefox, so that's how I'm going to give these instructions. 1. When clicking download, you should be presented with an open or save dialogue. Select the save radio button, then hit okay. 2. Hit control+J, which will open your library. This shows all recent downloads from Firefox. You should see your book in there. Hit the applications key, or shift+f10, and select open containing folder. there you should find all of your downloads. If you want help changing the folder where your files go, or having it ask you where to save every time you download, please feel free to email me. From kcj21 at bellsouth.net Thu Jun 22 15:32:01 2017 From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (Kaley Jemison) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:32:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please In-Reply-To: <53275316-d5ef-dd8c-1b28-cdd013897f15@gmail.com> References: <53275316-d5ef-dd8c-1b28-cdd013897f15@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8501BE05-E706-400D-8CF3-7CE80DCBDEDC@bellsouth.net> If you want an easier process, I recommend downloading books shares read to go app. It works very well on the iPhone and your books download in under a minute. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Justin Heard via NABS-L wrote: > > First, which web browser are you using. I recommend Mozilla Firefox, so that's how I'm going to give these instructions. > 1. When clicking download, you should be presented with an open or save dialogue. Select the save radio button, then hit okay. > 2. Hit control+J, which will open your library. This shows all recent downloads from Firefox. You should see your book in there. Hit the applications key, or shift+f10, and select open containing folder. there you should find all of your downloads. > > If you want help changing the folder where your files go, or having it ask you where to save every time you download, please feel free to email me. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kcj21%40bellsouth.net From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 15:46:37 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:46:37 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please Message-ID: <594be671.9cf5620a.b6c6c.97fc@mx.google.com> Hi, Thank you both. Justin, I've been using Internet Explorer, but I'll give Firefox a try. It sounds much more accessible. Kaley, I really appreciate you suggesting the app but I want to read these books on my braillenote Apex ultimately, so don't think that an iphone app would work. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Heard via NABS-L Can't you pair your phone with your BrailleNote? ----- Original Message ----- From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:48 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please > > > Hi, > Thank you both. > Justin, I've been using Internet Explorer, but I'll give Firefox > a try. It sounds much more accessible. > Kaley, I really appreciate you suggesting the app but I want to > read these books on my braillenote Apex ultimately, so don't > think that an iphone app would work. > Vejas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Justin Heard via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:24:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please > > First, which web browser are you using. I recommend Mozilla > Firefox, so > that's how I'm going to give these instructions. > 1. When clicking download, you should be presented with an open > or save > dialogue. Select the save radio button, then hit okay. > 2. Hit control+J, which will open your library. This shows all > recent > downloads from Firefox. You should see your book in there. Hit > the > applications key, or shift+f10, and select open containing > folder. there > you should find all of your downloads. > > If you want help changing the folder where your files go, or > having it > ask you where to save every time you download, please feel free > to email > me. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 20:47:59 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:47:59 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please Message-ID: <594c2d13.5790620a.97cb.a614@mx.google.com> Hi Leena, Yes, you can. I just prefer the layout when you are only using the braillenote. I figured out how to download and find them on the computer. But I also thought I'd let everyone know, I got an email from Bookshare saying that the site is experiencing technical difficulties, probably due to the security update. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: Leena Bandy via NABS-L References: <594c2d13.5790620a.97cb.a614@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <334C926D-2347-47E7-B0E9-6B7A7624EC66@gmail.com> Vejas, Keep in mind that IE is quickly going away, to be replaced by Edge. You'll want to use Firefox instead. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Leena, > Yes, you can. I just prefer the layout when you are only using the braillenote. > I figured out how to download and find them on the computer. But I also thought I'd let everyone know, I got an email from Bookshare saying that the site is experiencing technical difficulties, probably due to the security update. > Vejas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leena Bandy via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:49:52 -0500 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please > > Can't you pair your phone with your BrailleNote? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:48 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please > > > > Hi, > Thank you both. > Justin, I've been using Internet Explorer, but I'll give Firefox > a try. It sounds much more accessible. > Kaley, I really appreciate you suggesting the app but I want to > read these books on my braillenote Apex ultimately, so don't > think that an iphone app would work. > Vejas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Justin Heard via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:24:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please > > First, which web browser are you using. I recommend Mozilla > Firefox, so > that's how I'm going to give these instructions. > 1. When clicking download, you should be presented with an open > or save > dialogue. Select the save radio button, then hit okay. > 2. Hit control+J, which will open your library. This shows all > recent > downloads from Firefox. You should see your book in there. Hit > the > applications key, or shift+f10, and select open containing > folder. there > you should find all of your downloads. > > If you want help changing the folder where your files go, or > having it > ask you where to save every time you download, please feel free > to email > me. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%4 > 0gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 21:01:11 2017 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:01:11 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please References: <594c2d13.5790620a.97cb.a614@mx.google.com> <334C926D-2347-47E7-B0E9-6B7A7624EC66@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003001d2eb9a$b1b81d50$ee01a8c0@dougPC> in fact in our customer service class at the Dallas light house we use firefox. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleeha Dudley via NABS-L" To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" Cc: "Aleeha Dudley" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please > Vejas, > Keep in mind that IE is quickly going away, to be replaced by Edge. You'll > want to use Firefox instead. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Leena, >> Yes, you can. I just prefer the layout when you are only using the >> braillenote. >> I figured out how to download and find them on the computer. But I also >> thought I'd let everyone know, I got an email from Bookshare saying that >> the site is experiencing technical difficulties, probably due to the >> security update. >> Vejas >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Leena Bandy via NABS-L > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Date sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:49:52 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please >> >> Can't you pair your phone with your BrailleNote? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> > Date: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:48 >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please >> >> >> >> Hi, >> Thank you both. >> Justin, I've been using Internet Explorer, but I'll give Firefox >> a try. It sounds much more accessible. >> Kaley, I really appreciate you suggesting the app but I want to >> read these books on my braillenote Apex ultimately, so don't >> think that an iphone app would work. >> Vejas >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Justin Heard via NABS-L > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Date sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:24:13 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bookshare Help Needed Please >> >> First, which web browser are you using. I recommend Mozilla >> Firefox, so >> that's how I'm going to give these instructions. >> 1. When clicking download, you should be presented with an open >> or save >> dialogue. Select the save radio button, then hit okay. >> 2. Hit control+J, which will open your library. This shows all >> recent >> downloads from Firefox. You should see your book in there. Hit >> the >> applications key, or shift+f10, and select open containing >> folder. there >> you should find all of your downloads. >> >> If you want help changing the folder where your files go, or >> having it >> ask you where to save every time you download, please feel free >> to email >> me. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >> tion%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%4 >> 0gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >> tion%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 02:34:04 2017 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:34:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Support Groups Message-ID: Hi everyone! How are you all? I'm helga. I just wanted to tell you if any of you are interested, I created a group called IOS Support Text by iMessaging. The purpose for creating this group was in order to help the deafblind or persons with hard of hearing, and also blind people by text only. I'm part of many gorups that do audio messages, but I created a group that is only text, where we can ask questions about IOS and other apple devices! If you are interested to join, just feel free to send me an iMessage message to helga.schreiber at hotmail.com I also have a WahtsApp group called Android/ IOS Support TExt. This group has the same purpose as my iOS Support text. HOwever, in this group, we talk about android, and IOS,as well other types of technology by text only! These are groups in order to support each other. Contact me in private if interested to join to either of them. Note, for wahtsapp, you are able to create a google number if you don't want people to know your real number. I look forward in hearing from yousoon. Thanks so much for reading. Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the Blind IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D Member of the National Federation of the Blind and board member of the Florida Association of Blind Students http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/fabs_nfbnet.org The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Phone: (561) 203-9266 . iMessaging Contact: helga.schreiber at hotmail.com Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.3.3 From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 17:41:53 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 13:41:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01d2ec48$0108a570$0319f050$@gmail.com> Hey all! Thanks so much for these suggestions! I know that I haven't really payed much attention to this thread and never properly thanked any of you. Someone on here said that I can learn braille music from them, or that can at least teach me face to face and/or on Skype. I'm not sure who this was, but I would love for them to email me off list so that we can discuss some possible arrangements for teaching. My email is jordaneve22 at gmail.com. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music Yes Aaron is right. There is a danger of relying on recording too much when you use both. That being said, as a flute player who has been through rigorous honor ensembles and chamber music and solo repertoire I find that my Braille music skills have improved through this method when I had to basically teach myself to become functionally proficient at it. I agree with Aaron that piano/key board music would be more challenging. However, if you can read a single line of music with one hand and practice either singing that or playing what you are reading on the key with your other hand, that could be helpful. MK On 5/24/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > I learned braille music through a local blind piano teacher. She gave > me materials and taught me how to read it. After that, I taught myself > using the materials. > > On 5/24/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >> As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along >> with the braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the >> recording a lot and not fully understand the music in front of you. >> I'd recommend starting slow and not going for keyboard music as this >> is especially hard for a beginning braille music student. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> CEO Blind Faith Project >> CEO Linson Productions >> Aaron Linson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >> Kwak via NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music >> >> Hi Jordan, >> Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is >> by having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you >> can read and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you >> are reading to your playing/singing. >> >> As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you >> learn from someone in person. >> >> All the best, >> >> Miso Kwak >> >> On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was >>> helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille >>> Music course. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not >>> self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>> It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not >>> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, >>> it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>> >>>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jordan, >>>> >>>> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers >>>> distance learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I >>>> haven't done it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have >>>> had a good experience with their Nemeth code course so I would >>>> imagine the music course would be similarly useful. All of their >>>> braille courses are free to blind/visually impaired students and >>>> can all be found on their website. >>>> >>>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not >>>> the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we >>>> raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations >>>> create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live >>>> the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to >>>>> learn Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the >>>>> future, and I'm wondering how I could start. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>>>> com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40ya >>>> ho >>>> o.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gma >>> il >>> .com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40g >> mail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gma >> il.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 18:39:15 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:39:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Support Groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001401d2ec50$056f3a40$104daec0$@gmail.com> This sounds very interesting! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:34 PM To: National Association of Blind Students Cc: Helga Schreiber Subject: [nabs-l] Some Support Groups Hi everyone! How are you all? I'm helga. I just wanted to tell you if any of you are interested, I created a group called IOS Support Text by iMessaging. The purpose for creating this group was in order to help the deafblind or persons with hard of hearing, and also blind people by text only. I'm part of many gorups that do audio messages, but I created a group that is only text, where we can ask questions about IOS and other apple devices! If you are interested to join, just feel free to send me an iMessage message to helga.schreiber at hotmail.com I also have a WahtsApp group called Android/ IOS Support TExt. This group has the same purpose as my iOS Support text. HOwever, in this group, we talk about android, and IOS,as well other types of technology by text only! These are groups in order to support each other. Contact me in private if interested to join to either of them. Note, for wahtsapp, you are able to create a google number if you don't want people to know your real number. I look forward in hearing from yousoon. Thanks so much for reading. Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the Blind IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D Member of the National Federation of the Blind and board member of the Florida Association of Blind Students http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/fabs_nfbnet.org The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Phone: (561) 203-9266 . iMessaging Contact: helga.schreiber at hotmail.com Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.3.3 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From dandrews at visi.com Sat Jun 24 02:51:01 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 21:51:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Voice Dream Apps On Sale Message-ID: > > > > >Summer is for reading. To celebrate summer’s >arrival, Voice Dream is having a huge sale! > >Voice Dream Reader for iOS is 50% off at $6.99. >Voice Dream Writer is 70% off at $2.99. Voice >Dream Reader for Android is 50% off at $4.99 in >Google Play Store. The sale ends on July 4, 2017. > >(Note that prices vary outside the US, and >Writer is not available in some countries.) > >Many people can benefit from Voice Dream apps: >folks with dyslexia, folks who are visually >impaired, folks who have other learning styles, >or folks who are on the go and want to maximize >their productivity. Please tell your friends, >family, neighbors, co-workers, students, >colleagues, and classmates about this great deal! > >Get ready to Read With Your Ears this summer! > >Best, > >Sandra >Voice Dream Support and Educational Outreach > > >Want to change how you receive these emails? >You can >update >your preferences or >unsubscribe >from this list. From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 06:12:08 2017 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 01:12:08 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all Message-ID: Hello All, thought I would let you all know to enjoy the nfb convention this summer as I can't be there this year. Enjoy all, Doug -- email: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Phone number: (972)832-5737 From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 07:46:17 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 01:46:17 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] skype problems Message-ID: hello all, I hope that you are ll doing well... as the subject says it all I just downloaded the latest version of Skype onto my laptop and, I also downloaded the jfw scripts for it too. I'm using jfw 18. so, here's my problems and, I need some help here. how do you go about in Skype to add a concact? also, when a new contact wants to add you how do you go about to do that?any help would be appreciated. my Skype name is amazing.aim and, you can either call me at 303-588-7725 or you can email me at amieelsabo at gmail.com thanks a bunch and, I look forward to hearing from you all soon! hugs, amy From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 13:32:38 2017 From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (Simon Bonenfant) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 09:32:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] skype problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90624B49-C90B-4F1D-9A90-CC1D22D49C37@gmail.com> If you want to add a contact to your skype navigate to the recent messages list by pressing control 2 if you are using the skype scripts. Then press the up arrow until you hear the words search edit blank then you would type the name of the contact you want to add. Then press the down arrow and once you find the contact you want press enter until you find a add to contacts button. If you want to except a contact request go back to your recent messages list and you should land in a separated from the last day you had a recent chat so in my case it would say today separator then Aaron up once and you will hear pending contact request separator and you should see the contact their. Note that this is for the desktop skype client if you are talking about the built in windows ten skype preview app it is different so I would just use the skype desktop client as these instructions will apply. Thanks Sent from my iPad > On Jun 24, 2017, at 3:46 AM, Amy Sabo via NABS-L wrote: > > hello all, I hope that you are ll doing well... as the subject says it > all I just downloaded the latest version of Skype onto my laptop and, > I also downloaded the jfw scripts for it too. I'm using jfw 18. so, > here's my problems and, I need some help here. how do you go about in > Skype to add a concact? also, when a new contact wants to add you how > do you go about to do that?any help would be appreciated. my Skype > name is amazing.aim and, you can either call me at 303-588-7725 or you > can email me at amieelsabo at gmail.com thanks a bunch and, I look > forward to hearing from you all soon! hugs, amy > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 14:08:24 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (Nesma Aly) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 10:08:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] My technology class at school. Message-ID: <04a501d2ecf3$58635a80$092a0f80$@gmail.com> Good-morning all, I will be taking a class at school this year called foundations of computer science. We will be using a software called scratch. I was wondering if there is an accessible version of this software? Thanks, Nesma From mikaelastevens at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 14:20:53 2017 From: mikaelastevens at gmail.com (Mikaela Stevens) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 08:20:53 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB for Windows Message-ID: <72AE632E-F0A3-4002-B9E3-9BBB531278BB@gmail.com> Hello students: I use KNFB reader on my phone and like it. KNFB reader for windows recently came out. I have quite a few PDF files, which are not converting well using other OCR methods. This app was recommended to me. However, the reviews are not great. Have any of you used cayenne FB reader for windows? If so, what has been your experience? Thanks in advance for any help offered. Best regards, Mikaela Stevens From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 14:40:57 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 10:40:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] skype problems In-Reply-To: <90624B49-C90B-4F1D-9A90-CC1D22D49C37@gmail.com> References: <90624B49-C90B-4F1D-9A90-CC1D22D49C37@gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually, if you're using JAWS, you have to press control 1 and then navigate to the search field. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Simon Bonenfant via NABS-L wrote: > > If you want to add a contact to your skype navigate to the recent messages list by pressing control 2 if you are using the skype scripts. Then press the up arrow until you hear the words search edit blank then you would type the name of the contact you want to add. Then press the down arrow and once you find the contact you want press enter until you find a add to contacts button. If you want to except a contact request go back to your recent messages list and you should land in a separated from the last day you had a recent chat so in my case it would say today separator then Aaron up once and you will hear pending contact request separator and you should see the contact their. Note that this is for the desktop skype client if you are talking about the built in windows ten skype preview app it is different so I would just use the skype desktop client as these instructions will apply. Thanks > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 24, 2017, at 3:46 AM, Amy Sabo via NABS-L wrote: >> >> hello all, I hope that you are ll doing well... as the subject says it >> all I just downloaded the latest version of Skype onto my laptop and, >> I also downloaded the jfw scripts for it too. I'm using jfw 18. so, >> here's my problems and, I need some help here. how do you go about in >> Skype to add a concact? also, when a new contact wants to add you how >> do you go about to do that?any help would be appreciated. my Skype >> name is amazing.aim and, you can either call me at 303-588-7725 or you >> can email me at amieelsabo at gmail.com thanks a bunch and, I look >> forward to hearing from you all soon! hugs, amy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 17:18:42 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 13:18:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003f01d2ed0d$ee3abbb0$cab03310$@gmail.com> Aww, thanks Dug! We will! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:12 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Doug Oliver Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all Hello All, thought I would let you all know to enjoy the nfb convention this summer as I can't be there this year. Enjoy all, Doug -- email: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Phone number: (972)832-5737 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 17:22:16 2017 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 12:22:16 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all References: <003f01d2ed0d$ee3abbb0$cab03310$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601d2ed0e$735fd0f0$ee01a8c0@dougPC> no problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Cc: "Jordan Scheffer" Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello all > Aww, thanks Dug! We will! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver > via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:12 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Doug Oliver > Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all > > Hello All, > thought I would let you all know to enjoy the nfb convention this summer > as > I can't be there this year. Enjoy all, Doug > > -- > email: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com > Phone number: (972)832-5737 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com > From louvins at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 18:06:58 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 13:06:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all In-Reply-To: <000601d2ed0e$735fd0f0$ee01a8c0@dougPC> References: <003f01d2ed0d$ee3abbb0$cab03310$@gmail.com> <000601d2ed0e$735fd0f0$ee01a8c0@dougPC> Message-ID: I'd love to go to one of the conventions one of these days, but I just can't afford it. Getting to see the technology at the different booths would be so awesome. On 6/24/17, Doug Oliver via NABS-L wrote: > no problem. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > > Cc: "Jordan Scheffer" > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello all > > >> Aww, thanks Dug! We will! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver >> via >> NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:12 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Doug Oliver >> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all >> >> Hello All, >> thought I would let you all know to enjoy the nfb convention this summer >> as >> I can't be there this year. Enjoy all, Doug >> >> -- >> email: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com >> Phone number: (972)832-5737 >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 18:42:43 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 14:42:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all In-Reply-To: <000601d2ed0e$735fd0f0$ee01a8c0@dougPC> References: <003f01d2ed0d$ee3abbb0$cab03310$@gmail.com> <000601d2ed0e$735fd0f0$ee01a8c0@dougPC> Message-ID: <004e01d2ed19$aad88e90$0089abb0$@gmail.com> (smiley) -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 1:22 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Doug Oliver Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello all no problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Cc: "Jordan Scheffer" Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello all > Aww, thanks Dug! We will! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver > via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:12 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Doug Oliver > Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all > > Hello All, > thought I would let you all know to enjoy the nfb convention this summer > as > I can't be there this year. Enjoy all, Doug > > -- > email: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com > Phone number: (972)832-5737 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 18:43:10 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 14:43:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all In-Reply-To: <000601d2ed0e$735fd0f0$ee01a8c0@dougPC> References: <003f01d2ed0d$ee3abbb0$cab03310$@gmail.com> <000601d2ed0e$735fd0f0$ee01a8c0@dougPC> Message-ID: <005001d2ed19$bb0be550$3123aff0$@gmail.com> BTW, did anybody get my reply on the thread for braille music? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 1:22 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Doug Oliver Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello all no problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Cc: "Jordan Scheffer" Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello all > Aww, thanks Dug! We will! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Oliver > via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:12 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Doug Oliver > Subject: [nabs-l] Hello all > > Hello All, > thought I would let you all know to enjoy the nfb convention this summer > as > I can't be there this year. Enjoy all, Doug > > -- > email: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com > Phone number: (972)832-5737 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 18:46:08 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 10:46:08 -0800 Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB for Windows In-Reply-To: <72AE632E-F0A3-4002-B9E3-9BBB531278BB@gmail.com> References: <72AE632E-F0A3-4002-B9E3-9BBB531278BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21C7059D-6ED4-4968-919B-6A67C745572D@gmail.com> Hey Mikaela: I haven't personally tested KNFB Reader for Windows yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are some significant bugs which still need to be worked out. Nothing against the developers; that's just how it is with a lot of new programs on a new platform. So I would also be interested in hearing the experiences of those who have tried it. There is an OCR solution which is very effective but which doesn't seem to be very well-known. It's called RoboBraille, and it's entirely email-based. All you need to do is attach your PDF file to an email to convert at robobraille.org. In the subject line, type the format you want the file to be converted into, such as DOCX or TXT. Within a few minutes, RoboBraille will email the converted file back to you. This has worked very well for me on all platforms on which I've tried it and with a variety of files, including complex PDF's. Hope this helps, Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello students: > > I use KNFB reader on my phone and like it. KNFB reader for windows recently came out. I have quite a few PDF files, which are not converting well using other OCR methods. This app was recommended to me. However, the reviews are not great. Have any of you used cayenne FB reader for windows? If so, what has been your experience? > > Thanks in advance for any help offered. > > Best regards, > Mikaela Stevens > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From jty727 at gmail.com Sun Jun 25 04:00:31 2017 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:00:31 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Statistical Software Issues? Message-ID: Hi All, Hope this message finds you well! I was wondering if any of you on this mailing list have experience attempting to use Statistical software like SPSS or Minitab for academic course work or research? If so, what have your experiences been? I know it has its inaccessibility issues and I wanted to hear from other users experiences. Thanks, Justin Young From hstaley at nfbtx.org Sun Jun 25 04:08:51 2017 From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 23:08:51 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Statistical Software Issues? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use R and Python personally. Harry Staley (330) 718-1876 Staleyh at gmail.com > On Jun 24, 2017, at 23:00, Justin Young via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > > Hope this message finds you well! I was wondering if any of you on > this mailing list have experience attempting to use Statistical > software like SPSS or Minitab for academic course work or research? > If so, what have your experiences been? I know it has its > inaccessibility issues and I wanted to hear from other users > experiences. > > Thanks, > > Justin Young > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hstaley%40nfbtx.org From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Sun Jun 25 18:19:34 2017 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:19:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] New Member Message-ID: <6E096350-C0BB-43AC-927B-B8730A22408A@gmail.com> hey. My name is Armando. I am a high school student. I like technology. I would like to make some new friends around my age. Sent from my iPhone 6s From alpineimagination at gmail.com Sun Jun 25 22:50:47 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:50:47 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] New Member In-Reply-To: <6E096350-C0BB-43AC-927B-B8730A22408A@gmail.com> References: <6E096350-C0BB-43AC-927B-B8730A22408A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Armando, Nice to meet you. I think you'll find this list helpful. I'm going to be going into my second year of college, but there are quite a few high-schoolers around. Vejas > On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:19, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > hey. My name is Armando. I am a high school student. I like technology. I would like to make some new friends around my age. > > > > Sent from my iPhone 6s > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From zdreicer at gmail.com Sun Jun 25 23:41:10 2017 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 18:41:10 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] New Member In-Reply-To: References: <6E096350-C0BB-43AC-927B-B8730A22408A@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's nice to meet you Armando! I am in college and love making new friends too :-) The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Jun 25, 2017, at 17:50, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Armando, > Nice to meet you. I think you'll find this list helpful. I'm going to be going into my second year of college, but there are quite a few high-schoolers around. > Vejas > >> On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:19, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >> >> hey. My name is Armando. I am a high school student. I like technology. I would like to make some new friends around my age. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6s >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From janae.burgmeier at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 01:21:41 2017 From: janae.burgmeier at gmail.com (Janae Burgmeier) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:21:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Community Service Division Service Project. Message-ID: <327D2516-B8DD-40EA-B7A3-A37DE9901773@gmail.com> Hi All The community service division is looking for a few more participants for their service project during convention. Get outdoors for a while and join in the fun to help clean up a park. The event will be from 7:30 to 1:30 on Monday morning (July 10). A shuttle will pick up volunteers from the hotel. Please e mail info at nfbcommunityservice.org. If you are interested or have questions! Sent from my iPhone From misokwak12 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 03:37:21 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:37:21 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? Message-ID: Hi everyone, Some job applications ask for my typing speed in words per minute. What would be an accessible way to calculate my typing speed with JAWS? Thanks, Miso Kwak From eemcrew at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 04:46:33 2017 From: eemcrew at gmail.com (Ellana Crew) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 00:46:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88AEE0D0-E84A-4B9A-972B-965F6CB9248F@gmail.com> Hi there, So this one is actually pretty easy and I just did this myself recently. A typing test usually consists of typing the same sentence over and over again within one minute time frame, usually using a timer or stopwatch, and when you're done, you check the word count. Unfortunately I'm a Mac user so I don't know how to check the work out on a word document for PC, but I'm absolutely certain the feature exists. Just open up a blank word document, set your timer for one minute, type the same sentence over and over again until the timer stops, and then check your Word count. This actually isn't really something blindness specific, and would be better to just do a Google search for how typing tests work. But it's pretty simple, just use the word count feature in whatever wordprocessing software you have to check your word count when you test yourself. Ellana Crew, Vice President Maryland Association of Blind Students Website: nfbmd.org/students Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation Twitter: @MDABS_NFB The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:37 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > Some job applications ask for my typing speed in words per minute. > What would be an accessible way to calculate my typing speed with JAWS? > > Thanks, > Miso Kwak > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 26 15:39:30 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 11:39:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000e01d2ee92$680b4290$3821c7b0$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Mizo, There is a program called TypeAbility which Freedom Scientific makes. It has typing lessons. I think it also speed tests. Let me know if you want the link to download, and I can e-mail you off-list or post it on the list. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:37 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? Hi everyone, Some job applications ask for my typing speed in words per minute. What would be an accessible way to calculate my typing speed with JAWS? Thanks, Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 16:10:47 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:10:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? In-Reply-To: <000e01d2ee92$680b4290$3821c7b0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000e01d2ee92$680b4290$3821c7b0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <006701d2ee96$c62d5350$5287f9f0$@gmail.com> How much does it cost? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 11:40 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? Hi Mizo, There is a program called TypeAbility which Freedom Scientific makes. It has typing lessons. I think it also speed tests. Let me know if you want the link to download, and I can e-mail you off-list or post it on the list. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:37 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? Hi everyone, Some job applications ask for my typing speed in words per minute. What would be an accessible way to calculate my typing speed with JAWS? Thanks, Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 26 16:25:26 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:25:26 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? In-Reply-To: <006701d2ee96$c62d5350$5287f9f0$@gmail.com> References: <000e01d2ee92$680b4290$3821c7b0$@sbcglobal.net> <006701d2ee96$c62d5350$5287f9f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2ee98$d2b78d50$7826a7f0$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Justin, It's a free download. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 12:11 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? How much does it cost? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 11:40 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? Hi Mizo, There is a program called TypeAbility which Freedom Scientific makes. It has typing lessons. I think it also speed tests. Let me know if you want the link to download, and I can e-mail you off-list or post it on the list. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:37 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Typing Test? Hi everyone, Some job applications ask for my typing speed in words per minute. What would be an accessible way to calculate my typing speed with JAWS? Thanks, Miso Kwak _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From iperrault at hotmail.com Mon Jun 26 18:41:15 2017 From: iperrault at hotmail.com (Ian Perrault) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 18:41:15 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop Message-ID: Hi All, Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cullen Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gallagher123123%40gmail.com From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 20:52:11 2017 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 16:52:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EFFD1EC-0E35-4161-8F5D-FBD349C9276F@gmail.com> yes. There is away. Try bard express. I don't have the link yet. Sent from my iPhone 6s > On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Cullen Gallagher via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ian, > Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a computer. Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. > Cullen > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gallagher123123%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40gmail.com From iperrault at hotmail.com Mon Jun 26 21:54:56 2017 From: iperrault at hotmail.com (Ian Perrault) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 21:54:56 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop In-Reply-To: <1EFFD1EC-0E35-4161-8F5D-FBD349C9276F@gmail.com> References: <1EFFD1EC-0E35-4161-8F5D-FBD349C9276F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey, I tried BARD express. It sounds like it's just a simple way to download books on to your laptop, then transfer them to a NLS player. I don't think you can actually listen to books on the laptop unfortunately! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Armando Vias via NABS-L Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 4:52 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Armando Vias Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop yes. There is away. Try bard express. I don't have the link yet. Sent from my iPhone 6s > On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Cullen Gallagher via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ian, > Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a computer. Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. > Cullen > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gallagher123123%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/iperrault%40hotmail.com From louvins at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 22:10:00 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:10:00 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop In-Reply-To: References: <1EFFD1EC-0E35-4161-8F5D-FBD349C9276F@gmail.com> Message-ID: There is no way to listen to bard books on a computer. I don't think On 6/26/17, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: > Hey, > I tried BARD express. It sounds like it's just a simple way to download > books on to your laptop, then transfer them to a NLS player. I don't think > you can actually listen to books on the laptop unfortunately! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Armando Vias > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 4:52 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Armando Vias > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop > > yes. There is away. Try bard express. I don't have the link yet. > > > > Sent from my iPhone 6s > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Cullen Gallagher via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ian, >> Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a computer. >> Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. >> Cullen >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does it >>> have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gallagher123123%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/iperrault%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From louvins at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 22:12:38 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:12:38 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop In-Reply-To: References: <1EFFD1EC-0E35-4161-8F5D-FBD349C9276F@gmail.com> Message-ID: You are unable at this time to listen to NLS BARD books on a computer. The bard express program is a great program for downloading bard books, then transferring them to either a flash drive for the NLS BARD player, or to an sd card for the victor stream. I use bard express all the time. I absolutely love the program. On 6/26/17, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > There is no way to listen to bard books on a computer. I don't think > > On 6/26/17, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: >> Hey, >> I tried BARD express. It sounds like it's just a simple way to download >> books on to your laptop, then transfer them to a NLS player. I don't >> think >> you can actually listen to books on the laptop unfortunately! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Armando Vias >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 4:52 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Cc: Armando Vias >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop >> >> yes. There is away. Try bard express. I don't have the link yet. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6s >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Cullen Gallagher via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ian, >>> Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a computer. >>> Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. >>> Cullen >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does it >>>> have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gallagher123123%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/iperrault%40hotmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue Jun 27 01:23:22 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 21:23:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB for Windows In-Reply-To: <72AE632E-F0A3-4002-B9E3-9BBB531278BB@gmail.com> References: <72AE632E-F0A3-4002-B9E3-9BBB531278BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: knfb for windows? I did not think you could use windows smart phones because there was no speech on them. -----Original Message----- From: Mikaela Stevens via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 10:20 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Mikaela Stevens Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB for Windows Hello students: I use KNFB reader on my phone and like it. KNFB reader for windows recently came out. I have quite a few PDF files, which are not converting well using other OCR methods. This app was recommended to me. However, the reviews are not great. Have any of you used cayenne FB reader for windows? If so, what has been your experience? Thanks in advance for any help offered. Best regards, Mikaela Stevens _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From mikaelastevens at gmail.com Tue Jun 27 01:27:54 2017 From: mikaelastevens at gmail.com (Mikaela Stevens) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 19:27:54 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB for Windows In-Reply-To: References: <72AE632E-F0A3-4002-B9E3-9BBB531278BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4082D56D-0015-4533-A5E7-0040E487DDE3@gmail.com> Hi Ashley: The app which recently came out is cayenne FB reader for windows computers. I apologize for the misunderstanding. Best regards, Mikaela > On Jun 26, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > > knfb for windows? I did not think you could use windows smart phones because there was no speech on them. > > -----Original Message----- From: Mikaela Stevens via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 10:20 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Mikaela Stevens > Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB for Windows > > Hello students: > > I use KNFB reader on my phone and like it. KNFB reader for windows recently came out. I have quite a few PDF files, which are not converting well using other OCR methods. This app was recommended to me. However, the reviews are not great. Have any of you used cayenne FB reader for windows? If so, what has been your experience? > > Thanks in advance for any help offered. > > Best regards, > Mikaela Stevens > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikaelastevens%40gmail.com From mikgephart at icloud.com Tue Jun 27 20:45:18 2017 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 16:45:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about choosing between training centers Message-ID: Hi all, Well, I have decided that I want to attend an NFB training center before college, most likely LCB. However, I would like to hear your thoughts. What criteria did you all use when choosing between the three centers? Also, when you respond, can you please mention what center you attended? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Mikayla From leena.salim at gmail.com Tue Jun 27 20:54:34 2017 From: leena.salim at gmail.com (Leena Bandy) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:54:34 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about choosing between training centers Message-ID: <20170627205434.leena.salim@gmail.com> My main criteria was weather. I chose LCB because it was closer to my weather and I'd heard from so many people that it was the best. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 15:46 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about choosing between training centers > > > Hi all, > Well, I have decided that I want to attend an NFB training center before college, most likely LCB. However, I would like to hear your thoughts. What criteria did you all use when choosing between the three centers? Also, when you respond, can you please mention what center you attended? Thanks in advance. > Sincerely, > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jun 27 23:15:37 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 16:15:37 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about choosing between training centers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4395FC2D-2F3E-44DA-96EC-4BB0426505E9@gmail.com> Hi Mikayla, What made me want to choose LCB was that I had gone to the buddy program and really liked it. I had met some of the LCB staff and thought they were great. I needed lots of work on my travel skills and also heard that they were the best for that. Vejas > On Jun 27, 2017, at 13:45, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > Well, I have decided that I want to attend an NFB training center before college, most likely LCB. However, I would like to hear your thoughts. What criteria did you all use when choosing between the three centers? Also, when you respond, can you please mention what center you attended? Thanks in advance. > Sincerely, > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From matthewhgip at gmail.com Tue Jun 27 23:44:20 2017 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 16:44:20 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Question about choosing between training centers In-Reply-To: <4395FC2D-2F3E-44DA-96EC-4BB0426505E9@gmail.com> References: <4395FC2D-2F3E-44DA-96EC-4BB0426505E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7360E24C-F239-416B-88EC-79926EE1BCE6@gmail.com> Hi Mikayla, I'm a recent graduate at BLIND Incorporated. I chose to get training from BLIND Inc. because I was apart of their summer PREP program and I wanted to come back for the comprehensive program and be more independent. Minneapolis has a great transit system and everything is so convenient to get to and the weather is so beautiful there and I also got to see snow for the very first time which was amazing. Good luck! Best regards, Matthew Gip Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Mikayla, > What made me want to choose LCB was that I had gone to the buddy program and really liked it. I had met some of the LCB staff and thought they were great. I needed lots of work on my travel skills and also heard that they were the best for that. > Vejas > >> On Jun 27, 2017, at 13:45, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> Well, I have decided that I want to attend an NFB training center before college, most likely LCB. However, I would like to hear your thoughts. What criteria did you all use when choosing between the three centers? Also, when you respond, can you please mention what center you attended? Thanks in advance. >> Sincerely, >> Mikayla >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at icloud.com Wed Jun 28 08:04:52 2017 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:04:52 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] Mac voiceover resources Message-ID: <82A9D660-65BB-4223-A108-4D01AFC94270@icloud.com> Hey, first I want to apologize for being M.I.A lately my honors research study aboard trip does not come with unlimited calls and therefore I will be missing meetings till the August 7th Second are there in-depth resources on Mac for voiceover and it’s key commands I find myself needing a refresher on where keys are and navigating the web. Thank you, Emma From chris.omeally at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 15:55:56 2017 From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'meally) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:55:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Mac voiceover resources In-Reply-To: <82A9D660-65BB-4223-A108-4D01AFC94270@icloud.com> References: <82A9D660-65BB-4223-A108-4D01AFC94270@icloud.com> Message-ID: check out the youtube channel, www.youtube.com/mrviolinist101/ He is working on a getting started with your mac tutorial made of multiple parts. if you look through it and keep track of it you may find something usefull. On 6/28/17, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > Hey, first I want to apologize for being M.I.A lately my honors research > study aboard trip does not come with unlimited calls and therefore I will be > missing meetings till the August 7th > Second are there in-depth resources on Mac for voiceover and it’s key > commands I find myself needing a refresher on where keys are and navigating > the web. > Thank you, > Emma > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com > -- Very Respectfully, Christopher O’Meally. NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. Chris.omeally at gmail.com (804)658-6668 From misokwak12 at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 16:25:17 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:25:17 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Filmmaking Class Message-ID: Hi all, Out of curiosity, Has anyone taken a course on film making or something similar? I have no practically useful vision. I know there are a handful of blind Youtubers but I believe that none of them were formally trained in filmmaking. Theoretically I imagine I could have a sighted assistance like in science lab setting, but I am not familiar with this area of study at all. If anyone has taken a filmmaking course or something similar as a nearly totally blind person or totally blind person, I would love to hear your experience and how you went about getting appropriate accommodations and assistance. Best, Miso Kwak From nabs.president at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 16:25:09 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:25:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] CALLING ALL COLLEGE STUDENTS: The Larry Bock Award open now and given at the 2017 National convention Message-ID: <035601d2f02b$23697720$6a3c6560$@gmail.com> Students: If you are going to National convention this year, are a college student in the fall of 2017, and above the age of 18, please read this message in its entirety. Below, you will read about an incredible opportunity for all college students, taking place in just two weeks. The 2017 Larry Bock Award Aira, with the help of NABS, is providing two college students with a 1-year subscription to Aira services! Overview One of Aira's founders was the entrepreneurial guru and lifelong student Larry Bock. Larry passed away in late 2016 and we're honoring his legacy by announcing the Larry Bock award. We're looking for students who exhibit Larry's passion for trying new things and constantly expanding their range of capabilities. This is your chance, not only to win a game-changing prize, but also to provide input that will literally help Aira shape services enhancements. What is Aira? Aira is a service for blind and low-vision people that provides immediate, time-relevant access to visual information about surroundings or items at the point-of-need by fusing technology and human interaction. * Smart glasses that capture video, GPS data and other sensor inputs of the user's surroundings * Broadband network to remotely connect the user with a visual assistant---we call them "Agents" (human or software) * Trained agents utilizing a dashboard that displays camera information as well as a range of other sources and feeds that enable real-time interaction to inform the user of what is in their immediate and adjacent surroundings and environments. These might include access to restaurant reviews and locations, current transportation schedules, alerts to weather or construction along routes and other relevant and time sensitive information. * Software that enables agents to access and provide deep and robust location-specific information to the users to help them navigate, select and locate venues, locate their seat at sporting events, read signs or take other actions that further enhance their independence. Today, students on college campuses join blind or low-vision business people, veterans, and others who are using the Aira services to independently navigate cities, malls or attractions, master transportation systems, shop, and learn more about the surroundings and environment. Aira aims to integrate students into the mainstream of campus life and the college experience in a way never before possible. Aira strives to further enhance independence anytime and anywhere for the blind or low-vision. You can learn more at www.Aira.io Eligibility Requirements * College students (age 18 & over) or recent grad (graduated in May 17') * In line with our Do More theme, participants should be passionate about trying new things and constantly expanding their range of capabilities Selection Process In order to be considered, Students must submit a 250-word response, explaining how one uses technology and would use Aira to enhance independence. This response can take any direction, so be creative! To get your mind wandering, * Briefly describe one or more challenges. * Tell us how a visual assistant service may benefit you. * Tell us what autonomous features --- those that do not require an agent's assistance or service integrations (such as Uber or Amazon) --- you might innovate or add to the enhancement of independence, improve the user experience, or enable a breakthrough capability for blind people. You can learn more about the solution and services at www.Aira.io Think both inside and outside the box! Share your innovative spirit! Your insights help guide our offering. Submissions must be sent to Kathryn Webster, national student division president, at nabs.president at gmail.com by Friday, July 7 at midnight EST. Please attach the file, including your name, birth date, state, email address, and phone number, as well as the 250-word response. Next Steps Five entries will be selected for the final round. If you provide one of the top entries, we will ask you to do a 3-minute pitch during the 2017 National convention. On Wednesday, July 12 from 8-10pm, in conjunction with the NABS Olympics event, the top five students will have an opportunity to woo our judges! Within the three minutes, we want you to intrigue us, inspire us, and make us see how well-deserving you are of this award. Students will know by Sunday, July 9th if they have been selected as a finalist. Announcement of Winners On Saturday, July 15, during the National Federation of the Blind Annual Banquet, the two recipients will be announced and awarded the Larry Bock Award for their talent and curiosity as a lifelong student. Please direct questions or concerns to Kathryn Webster at nabs.president at gmail.com or via telephone. Good luck, Kathryn Webster President | National Association of Blind Students From brinikki3 at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 21:02:54 2017 From: brinikki3 at gmail.com (Brianna's Email) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:02:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell Message-ID: <51F21DD8-ECD4-467B-9820-AC254A61A18D@gmail.com> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon Brianna From leena.salim at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 21:09:52 2017 From: leena.salim at gmail.com (Leena Bandy) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:09:52 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell Message-ID: <20170628210952.leena.salim@gmail.com> Louisiana is a great place. Ruston is a small town too in many ways so I think the feel will be similar. They are strict and will push you, but they are patient too. You will be in an apartment and they'll help you with your first shopping excursion and get you situated. You have your Braille, tech, home management, and travel classes along with woodshop. I enjoyed being in the play the center puts on every year at convention and the extra trips outside of class were a lot of fun. Just try to steer clear of the drama and it will be a great experience. Mine was great but had issues, but I blame the fact that I was 19 and very naive so found myself mixing with the wrong people. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:04 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > > > Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. > Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon > Brianna > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 21:11:13 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:11:13 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell Message-ID: <59541b92.5a9c620a.897fa.f5b5@mx.google.com> Hi Brianna, I went to LCB from September 2015 through June 2016. I think you'll really like it there. When I went there were about 35 students or so. The day is from 8 to 5. All the classes are tailored to each person's individual needs. Wood shop has a set program, and you need to pass all the levels of Typeability in computer class, but besides that typically everything is at your own pace. There are quite a few restaurants. My favorite was a burger place called Cheeburger Cheeburger. Also, students walk to school once the OANDM instructor clears them to do so. Also depending on your religion, there are quite a few places of worship, and you can make lots of friends from going there because of Louisiana Tech being in session also. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me any other questions. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L References: <59541b92.5a9c620a.897fa.f5b5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hello, Im currently at LCB. I came here after a few years in school and it has been the best decision ive made. Ruston is a fairly small town, so that wouldn't be much of an adjustment for you, and the students here right now are pretty decent people. If you have any particular questions about anything, feel free to email me anytime and maybe I can give you my number so that we can connect. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Brianna, > I went to LCB from September 2015 through June 2016. I think you'll really like it there. When I went there were about 35 students or so. The day is from 8 to 5. All the classes are tailored to each person's individual needs. Wood shop has a set program, and you need to pass all the levels of Typeability in computer class, but besides that typically everything is at your own pace. There are quite a few restaurants. My favorite was a burger place called Cheeburger Cheeburger. Also, students walk to school once the OANDM instructor clears them to do so. > Also depending on your religion, there are quite a few places of worship, and you can make lots of friends from going there because of Louisiana Tech being in session also. > Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me any other questions. > Vejas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:02:54 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > > Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. > Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon > Brianna > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com From rexschuttler at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 02:07:10 2017 From: rexschuttler at gmail.com (Rex Schuttler) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:07:10 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell In-Reply-To: <20170628210952.leena.salim@gmail.com> References: <20170628210952.leena.salim@gmail.com> Message-ID: <745D2365-97EE-443F-B83A-C53ABE8E97F8@gmail.com> Hello, I am a recent graduate of the Louisiana training center. And I'm also a counselor in their summer step program for high school students. And I just now completed my first college semester. Without the Lcb and their instructors I would not be where I'm at right now. Yes they will push you beyond your boundaries but it will be worth it in the long run. Rex Schuttler Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma cell phone number 918-955-6761 > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Leena Bandy via NABS-L wrote: > > Louisiana is a great place. Ruston is a small town too in many ways so I think the feel will be similar. They are strict and will push you, but they are patient too. You will be in an apartment and they'll help you with your first shopping excursion and get you situated. You have your Braille, tech, home management, and travel classes along with woodshop. I enjoyed being in the play the center puts on every year at convention and the extra trips outside of class were a lot of fun. Just try to steer clear of the drama and it will be a great experience. Mine was great but had issues, but I blame the fact that I was 19 and very naive so found myself mixing with the wrong people. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:04 > Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > >> >> >> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. >> Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon >> Brianna >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jun 29 02:39:35 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:39:35 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is no player for windows. Dave At 01:41 PM 6/26/2017, you wrote: >Hi All, >Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does >it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jun 29 02:40:59 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:40:59 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They have no plans to change this. They are concerned about the security of the books, and legally have to be concerned, so no Windows player where it would be much easier to pirate the books. Dave At 01:45 PM 6/26/2017, you wrote: >Hi Ian, >Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a >computer. Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. >Cullen > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or > does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jun 29 02:42:09 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:42:09 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop In-Reply-To: <1EFFD1EC-0E35-4161-8F5D-FBD349C9276F@gmail.com> References: <1EFFD1EC-0E35-4161-8F5D-FBD349C9276F@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't think BARD Express actually plays the books. It is just an easier way to download books and load them onto a cartridge or player. Dave At 03:52 PM 6/26/2017, you wrote: >yes. There is away. Try bard express. I don't have the link yet. > > > >Sent from my iPhone 6s > > > On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Cullen Gallagher via NABS-L > wrote: > > > > Hi Ian, > > Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a > computer. Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. > > Cullen > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L > wrote: > >> > >> Hi All, > >> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or > does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Thu Jun 29 03:13:22 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 22:13:22 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell In-Reply-To: <745D2365-97EE-443F-B83A-C53ABE8E97F8@gmail.com> References: <20170628210952.leena.salim@gmail.com> <745D2365-97EE-443F-B83A-C53ABE8E97F8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003a01d2f085$ab9f8300$02de8900$@nevada.unr.edu> Hey there, I am a current student here at the Louisiana Center for the Blind; although, I graduate on Friday. Honestly, I wish I would have come to training before I went off and got my B.A. in Philosophy; the world would have been so much more opened, and opportunities would have been much greater. Before coming here, I did all right. I managed not to starve to death, I traveled around ok, I finished college; but there was so many things I was not doing, which I could have been doing, and just never had the courage to try. LCB has done a lot for me, but most of all it has increased my confidence in my own ability, while providing me with the skills to truly live the life I want to live fully integrated, while receiving competitive employment and equal access to technology, job prospects, education, and so many other things equal to my sighted counterparts. I cannot wait to meet you, as I will be a graduate student at Louisiana Tech University when you arrive! Best, Michael Ausbun, Secretary National Association of Blind Students -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rex Schuttler via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:07 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Rex Schuttler Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell Hello, I am a recent graduate of the Louisiana training center. And I'm also a counselor in their summer step program for high school students. And I just now completed my first college semester. Without the Lcb and their instructors I would not be where I'm at right now. Yes they will push you beyond your boundaries but it will be worth it in the long run. Rex Schuttler Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma cell phone number 918-955-6761 > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Leena Bandy via NABS-L wrote: > > Louisiana is a great place. Ruston is a small town too in many ways so I think the feel will be similar. They are strict and will push you, but they are patient too. You will be in an apartment and they'll help you with your first shopping excursion and get you situated. You have your Braille, tech, home management, and travel classes along with woodshop. I enjoyed being in the play the center puts on every year at convention and the extra trips outside of class were a lot of fun. Just try to steer clear of the drama and it will be a great experience. Mine was great but had issues, but I blame the fact that I was 19 and very naive so found myself mixing with the wrong people. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:04 > Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > >> >> >> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. >> Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon Brianna >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gma > il.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu From amieelsabo at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 04:07:05 2017 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 22:07:05 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] outlook problems Message-ID: hello all, I hope that you are all doing well tonight. well, as the subject says it all I'm having problems with ms office which is ms office 2016. I bought ms off 2016 last night and, I downloaded it onto my computer and, then I installed it onto my computer and, I keep getting this error message that I need to log into my impt server on gmail which I have done by typing in my email address/user name and, then my password. then it doesn't take it! I have tried this many times with multiple tries... I have also saved all the settings in gmaill settings menu but, I keep on getting this error message and, I have tried using gmail through the web mail and, have through my session jfw locks up on me and then freezes! I have tried fixing this problem with freedom and, I though that it was fixed well, I was wrong... so, here's my problem what should I do to fix the problems in using outlook 2016 with jfw 18? I would appreciate any help if possible. please email me off list at amieelsabo at gmail.com or you can call me at 303-588-7725. thanks again and, I will talk to you all soon! hugs, from amy From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 13:00:35 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 09:00:35 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell In-Reply-To: <51F21DD8-ECD4-467B-9820-AC254A61A18D@gmail.com> References: <51F21DD8-ECD4-467B-9820-AC254A61A18D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <13DC2B25-2878-40DA-AC62-D6F1F3A6A608@gmail.com> I was away from my family for two weeks when I went to summer camp there survived just fine without me. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 28, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Brianna's Email via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. > Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon > Brianna > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 13:16:06 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 09:16:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell In-Reply-To: <003a01d2f085$ab9f8300$02de8900$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <20170628210952.leena.salim@gmail.com> <745D2365-97EE-443F-B83A-C53ABE8E97F8@gmail.com> <003a01d2f085$ab9f8300$02de8900$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: What are you making for your final meal and cooking class? Sent from my iPad > On Jun 28, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey there, > I am a current student here at the Louisiana Center for the Blind; although, > I graduate on Friday. Honestly, I wish I would have come to training before > I went off and got my B.A. in Philosophy; the world would have been so much > more opened, and opportunities would have been much greater. Before coming > here, I did all right. I managed not to starve to death, I traveled around > ok, I finished college; but there was so many things I was not doing, which > I could have been doing, and just never had the courage to try. LCB has done > a lot for me, but most of all it has increased my confidence in my own > ability, while providing me with the skills to truly live the life I want to > live fully integrated, while receiving competitive employment and equal > access to technology, job prospects, education, and so many other things > equal to my sighted counterparts. I cannot wait to meet you, as I will be a > graduate student at Louisiana Tech University when you arrive! > Best, > Michael Ausbun, Secretary > National Association of Blind Students > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rex Schuttler > via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:07 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Rex Schuttler > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > > Hello, I am a recent graduate of the Louisiana training center. And I'm also > a counselor in their summer step program for high school students. And I > just now completed my first college semester. Without the Lcb and their > instructors I would not be where I'm at right now. Yes they will push you > beyond your boundaries but it will be worth it in the long run. > > Rex Schuttler > Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma > President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the > blind of Oklahoma cell phone number > 918-955-6761 > >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Leena Bandy via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Louisiana is a great place. Ruston is a small town too in many ways so I > think the feel will be similar. They are strict and will push you, but they > are patient too. You will be in an apartment and they'll help you with your > first shopping excursion and get you situated. You have your Braille, tech, > home management, and travel classes along with woodshop. I enjoyed being in > the play the center puts on every year at convention and the extra trips > outside of class were a lot of fun. Just try to steer clear of the drama and > it will be a great experience. Mine was great but had issues, but I blame > the fact that I was 19 and very naive so found myself mixing with the wrong > people. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:04 >> Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell >> >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student > from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates > degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence > training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what > experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess > I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. > I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and > mobility skills I learned in school. >>> Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon Brianna >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gma >>> il.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 13:39:30 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 09:39:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible Message-ID: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> Dear Students, I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking about wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have to pay for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used this service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. From jlhodges4 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 13:43:39 2017 From: jlhodges4 at gmail.com (Jessica Hodges) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 08:43:39 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible In-Reply-To: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> References: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> Audible is a paid service. You can pay by the book, or you can pay a set price for a certain number of credits a month, which allows you to redeem them for any book in audible's catalogue. If you are only looking to get one or two books from audible, you might want to buy them individually, but if you think you will be a regular user of the service, credits would be the way to go, as books get expensive. And credits can always be saved for a rainy day. Hope this is helpful! Jessica. On 6/29/2017 8:39 AM, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > Dear Students, > > I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for > this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking > about wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have > to pay for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used > this service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com From louvins at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 13:50:55 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 08:50:55 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible In-Reply-To: <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> References: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> Message-ID: You can read audible books onyour braille note apex. Audible is a paid service. I pay for 2 credits per month for about $22 which gives me 2 audio book credits per month. Also, if you buy a book and find out that you don't like, you have up to one year after you purchased to return the book and get another credit. I really enjoy audible a lot. They have a lot of great books. On 6/29/17, Jessica Hodges via NABS-L wrote: > Audible is a paid service. You can pay by the book, or you can pay a set > price for a certain number of credits a month, which allows you to > redeem them for any book in audible's catalogue. If you are only looking > to get one or two books from audible, you might want to buy them > individually, but if you think you will be a regular user of the > service, credits would be the way to go, as books get expensive. And > credits can always be saved for a rainy day. Hope this is helpful! > > Jessica. > > > On 6/29/2017 8:39 AM, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >> Dear Students, >> >> I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for >> this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking >> about wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have >> to pay for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used >> this service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From tristan.torres09 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 14:21:37 2017 From: tristan.torres09 at gmail.com (Tristan Torres) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 10:21:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser help Message-ID: <53D096D7-34CD-440E-8927-4814D258146C@gmail.com> Hi All. I am reaching out on a work-related venture. My university has employed me to help improve the experience of blind students on campus by evaluating the accessibility of documents from multiple formats, one of which is braille. I am encountering a problem with several documents in which the braille on a particular page seems to cut off inexplicably, while others seem to be in tact. I am no expert in embossing, and neither are the people employing me, so I was hoping that one of you could help me resolve this. Look forward to hearing from you all soon. Thanks for your help in advance. Tristan From nabs.president at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 16:08:32 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:08:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Preregister for NABS Annual Seminar & Business meeting Message-ID: <047401d2f0f1$fada70d0$f08f5270$@gmail.com> Good morning, Below, you will find the preregistration link for the NABS Annual Seminar & Business meeting. Please preregister and pay the $5 fee through PayPal or Venmo to save time for you, and the NABS Board. https://goo.gl/forms/NS3aRJ2Bqn7hQqsV2 See you soon, Kathryn Webster President | National Association of Blind Students From eemcrew at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 16:27:18 2017 From: eemcrew at gmail.com (Ellana Crew) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:27:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible In-Reply-To: <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> References: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi there, Coincidentally, I just investigated this topic myself the other day. You do have to pay for the membership, I believe it is $14 and some change a month and it only gives you one book credit per month. I haven't found it to be especially useful on that front, because you're essentially just paying the full price for an audiobook each month as if you were buying the book outright. You can get a 30 day trial though, during which you get 2 free book credits. Also, from what I have found so far the books are only available in recorded audio format, so if you were planning to read the book using a refreshable braille display as in hoping to read the book in braille, I don't think this is possible. As mentioned before, if you're only planning to get a few books here and there, it's cheaper to pay for them individually than to use a membership. Ellana Crew, Vice President Maryland Association of Blind Students Website: nfbmd.org/students Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation Twitter: @MDABS_NFB The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Jessica Hodges via NABS-L wrote: > > Audible is a paid service. You can pay by the book, or you can pay a set price for a certain number of credits a month, which allows you to redeem them for any book in audible's catalogue. If you are only looking to get one or two books from audible, you might want to buy them individually, but if you think you will be a regular user of the service, credits would be the way to go, as books get expensive. And credits can always be saved for a rainy day. Hope this is helpful! > > Jessica. > > >> On 6/29/2017 8:39 AM, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >> Dear Students, >> >> I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking about wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have to pay for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used this service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 17:21:04 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:21:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible In-Reply-To: References: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12082ECE-C858-4B3E-BAEA-4ED09BE16E54@gmail.com> Thank you for the info maybe I'll see about getting free barred membership Sent from my iPad > On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi there, > > Coincidentally, I just investigated this topic myself the other day. You do have to pay for the membership, I believe it is $14 and some change a month and it only gives you one book credit per month. I haven't found it to be especially useful on that front, because you're essentially just paying the full price for an audiobook each month as if you were buying the book outright. You can get a 30 day trial though, during which you get 2 free book credits. Also, from what I have found so far the books are only available in recorded audio format, so if you were planning to read the book using a refreshable braille display as in hoping to read the book in braille, I don't think this is possible. As mentioned before, if you're only planning to get a few books here and there, it's cheaper to pay for them individually than to use a membership. > > Ellana Crew, Vice President > Maryland Association of Blind Students > Website: nfbmd.org/students > Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation > Twitter: @MDABS_NFB > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > >> On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Jessica Hodges via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Audible is a paid service. You can pay by the book, or you can pay a set price for a certain number of credits a month, which allows you to redeem them for any book in audible's catalogue. If you are only looking to get one or two books from audible, you might want to buy them individually, but if you think you will be a regular user of the service, credits would be the way to go, as books get expensive. And credits can always be saved for a rainy day. Hope this is helpful! >> >> Jessica. >> >> >>> On 6/29/2017 8:39 AM, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >>> Dear Students, >>> >>> I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking about wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have to pay for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used this service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From janae.burgmeier at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 17:57:40 2017 From: janae.burgmeier at gmail.com (Janae Burgmeier) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:57:40 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Film making class Message-ID: <2BE963F5-9D2A-438B-A591-D92952AAC1F5@gmail.com> Hi Miso I have taken a film making class and it was quite a lot of fun. You are right, you just have someone assist similar to a lab tech for a biology class. My class was once a week so it was for a longer period. We spent the day watching a movie and filling out a template of the different techniques used. I was able to do a considerable amount non visually since there was a book that went with it and filmmaking is a lot about the sound. The most challenging unit was probably the Charlie Chaplin one since those are silent and just have sound affects in the background. If you get a good "describer" and read the book, you can still learn lots of good stuff about filmmaking. Feel free to contact me individually if you have other questions. Janae.burgmeier at gmail.com. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2017, at 07:00, nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > > Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mac voiceover resources (Christopher O'meally) > 2. Filmmaking Class (Miso Kwak) > 3. CALLING ALL COLLEGE STUDENTS: The Larry Bock Award open now > and given at the 2017 National convention > (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) > 4. Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell (Brianna's Email) > 5. Re: Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell (Leena Bandy) > 6. Re: Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell (Vejas Vasiliauskas) > 7. Re: Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell (Lakeria Taylor) > 8. Re: Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell (Rex Schuttler) > 9. Re: Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop (David Andrews) > 10. Re: Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop (David Andrews) > 11. Re: Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop (David Andrews) > 12. Re: Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell (Michael Ausbun) > 13. outlook problems (Amy Sabo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:55:56 -0400 > From: "Christopher O'meally" > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Mac voiceover resources > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > check out the youtube channel, www.youtube.com/mrviolinist101/ > He is working on a getting started with your mac tutorial made of > multiple parts. if you look through it and keep track of it you may > find something usefull. > >> On 6/28/17, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >> Hey, first I want to apologize for being M.I.A lately my honors research >> study aboard trip does not come with unlimited calls and therefore I will be >> missing meetings till the August 7th >> Second are there in-depth resources on Mac for voiceover and it?s key >> commands I find myself needing a refresher on where keys are and navigating >> the web. >> Thank you, >> Emma >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chris.omeally%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Very Respectfully, > > Christopher O?Meally. > > NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow. > > Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC. > > Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency. > > Chris.omeally at gmail.com > > (804)658-6668 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:25:17 -0700 > From: Miso Kwak > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: [nabs-l] Filmmaking Class > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi all, > Out of curiosity, > Has anyone taken a course on film making or something similar? > I have no practically useful vision. > I know there are a handful of blind Youtubers but I believe that none > of them were formally trained in filmmaking. > > Theoretically I imagine I could have a sighted assistance like in > science lab setting, but I am not familiar with this area of study at > all. > If anyone has taken a filmmaking course or something similar as a > nearly totally blind person or totally blind person, I would love to > hear your experience and how you went about getting appropriate > accommodations and assistance. > > Best, > Miso Kwak > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:25:09 -0400 > From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > , > Cc: > Subject: [nabs-l] CALLING ALL COLLEGE STUDENTS: The Larry Bock Award > open now and given at the 2017 National convention > Message-ID: <035601d2f02b$23697720$6a3c6560$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Students: > > > > If you are going to National convention this year, are a college student in > the fall of 2017, and above the age of 18, please read this message in its > entirety. > > Below, you will read about an incredible opportunity for all college > students, taking place in just two weeks. > > > > > The 2017 Larry Bock Award > > > Aira, with the help of NABS, is providing two college students with a 1-year > subscription to Aira services! > > > > > Overview > > > One of Aira's founders was the entrepreneurial guru and lifelong student > Larry Bock. Larry passed away in late 2016 and we're honoring his legacy by > announcing the Larry Bock award. We're looking for students who exhibit > Larry's passion for trying new things and constantly expanding their range > of capabilities. This is your chance, not only to win a game-changing > prize, but also to provide input that will literally help Aira shape > services enhancements. > > > > > What is Aira? > > > Aira is a service for blind and low-vision people that provides immediate, > time-relevant access to visual information about surroundings or items at > the point-of-need by fusing technology and human interaction. > > * Smart glasses that capture video, GPS data and other sensor inputs > of the user's surroundings > > * Broadband network to remotely connect the user with a visual > assistant---we call them "Agents" (human or software) > > * Trained agents utilizing a dashboard that displays camera > information as well as a range of other sources and feeds that enable > real-time interaction to inform the user of what is in their immediate and > adjacent surroundings and environments. These might include access to > restaurant reviews and locations, current transportation schedules, alerts > to weather or construction along routes and other relevant and time > sensitive information. > > * Software that enables agents to access and provide deep and robust > location-specific information to the users to help them navigate, select and > locate venues, locate their seat at sporting events, read signs or take > other actions that further enhance their independence. > > Today, students on college campuses join blind or low-vision business > people, veterans, and others who are using the Aira services to > independently navigate cities, malls or attractions, master transportation > systems, shop, and learn more about the surroundings and environment. Aira > aims to integrate students into the mainstream of campus life and the > college experience in a way never before possible. > > Aira strives to further enhance independence anytime and anywhere for the > blind or low-vision. > > You can learn more at www.Aira.io > > > > > Eligibility Requirements > > > * College students (age 18 & over) or recent grad (graduated in May > 17') > > * In line with our Do More theme, participants should be passionate > about trying new things and constantly expanding their range of capabilities > > > > > Selection Process > > > In order to be considered, Students must submit a 250-word response, > explaining how one uses technology and would use Aira to enhance > independence. > > This response can take any direction, so be creative! To get your mind > wandering, > > * Briefly describe one or more challenges. > > * Tell us how a visual assistant service may benefit you. > > * Tell us what autonomous features --- those that do not require an > agent's assistance or service integrations (such as Uber or Amazon) --- you > might innovate or add to the enhancement of independence, improve the user > experience, or enable a breakthrough capability for blind people. > > > > You can learn more about the solution and services at > www.Aira.io > > Think both inside and outside the box! Share your innovative spirit! Your > insights help guide our offering. > > Submissions must be sent to Kathryn Webster, national student division > president, at nabs.president at gmail.com by > Friday, July 7 at midnight EST. Please attach the file, including your name, > birth date, state, email address, and phone number, as well as the 250-word > response. > > > > > Next Steps > > > Five entries will be selected for the final round. If you provide one of the > top entries, we will ask you to do a 3-minute pitch during the 2017 National > convention. On Wednesday, July 12 from 8-10pm, in conjunction with the NABS > Olympics event, the top five students will have an opportunity to woo our > judges! Within the three minutes, we want you to intrigue us, inspire us, > and make us see how well-deserving you are of this award. Students will know > by Sunday, July 9th if they have been selected as a finalist. > > > > > Announcement of Winners > > > On Saturday, July 15, during the National Federation of the Blind Annual > Banquet, the two recipients will be announced and awarded the Larry Bock > Award for their talent and curiosity as a lifelong student. > > > > Please direct questions or concerns to Kathryn Webster at > nabs.president at gmail.com or via > telephone. > > > > Good luck, > > Kathryn Webster > > President | National Association of Blind Students > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:02:54 -0400 > From: Brianna's Email > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > Message-ID: <51F21DD8-ECD4-467B-9820-AC254A61A18D at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. > Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon > Brianna > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:09:52 -0500 > From: Leena Bandy > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > Message-ID: <20170628210952.leena.salim at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Louisiana is a great place. Ruston is a small town too in many ways so I think the feel will be similar. They are strict and will push you, but they are patient too. You will be in an apartment and they'll help you with your first shopping excursion and get you situated. You have your Braille, tech, home management, and travel classes along with woodshop. I enjoyed being in the play the center puts on every year at convention and the extra trips outside of class were a lot of fun. Just try to steer clear of the drama and it will be a great experience. Mine was great but had issues, but I blame the fact that I was 19 and very naive so found myself mixing with the wrong people. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:04 > Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > >> >> >> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. >> Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon >> Brianna >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:11:13 -0700 > From: Vejas Vasiliauskas > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing > list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > Message-ID: <59541b92.5a9c620a.897fa.f5b5 at mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Brianna, > I went to LCB from September 2015 through June 2016. I think > you'll really like it there. When I went there were about 35 > students or so. The day is from 8 to 5. All the classes are > tailored to each person's individual needs. Wood shop has a set > program, and you need to pass all the levels of Typeability in > computer class, but besides that typically everything is at your > own pace. There are quite a few restaurants. My favorite was a > burger place called Cheeburger Cheeburger. Also, students walk > to school once the OANDM instructor clears them to do so. > Also depending on your religion, there are quite a few places of > worship, and you can make lots of friends from going there > because of Louisiana Tech being in session also. > Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me any other questions. > Vejas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:02:54 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > > Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college > student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college > with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go > ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For > the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who > went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous > because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm > from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the > orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. > Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon > Brianna > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:09:43 -0500 > From: Lakeria Taylor > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello, > > Im currently at LCB. I came here after a few years in school and it has been the best decision ive made. Ruston is a fairly small town, so that wouldn't be much of an adjustment for you, and the students here right now are pretty decent people. If you have any particular questions about anything, feel free to email me anytime and maybe I can give you my number so that we can connect. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Brianna, >> I went to LCB from September 2015 through June 2016. I think you'll really like it there. When I went there were about 35 students or so. The day is from 8 to 5. All the classes are tailored to each person's individual needs. Wood shop has a set program, and you need to pass all the levels of Typeability in computer class, but besides that typically everything is at your own pace. There are quite a few restaurants. My favorite was a burger place called Cheeburger Cheeburger. Also, students walk to school once the OANDM instructor clears them to do so. >> Also depending on your religion, there are quite a few places of worship, and you can make lots of friends from going there because of Louisiana Tech being in session also. >> Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me any other questions. >> Vejas >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Date sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:02:54 -0400 >> Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell >> >> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. >> Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon >> Brianna >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina >> tion%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:07:10 -0500 > From: Rex Schuttler > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > Message-ID: <745D2365-97EE-443F-B83A-C53ABE8E97F8 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello, I am a recent graduate of the Louisiana training center. And I'm also a counselor in their summer step program for high school students. And I just now completed my first college semester. Without the Lcb and their instructors I would not be where I'm at right now. Yes they will push you beyond your boundaries but it will be worth it in the long run. > > Rex Schuttler > Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma > President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma > cell phone number > 918-955-6761 > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Leena Bandy via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Louisiana is a great place. Ruston is a small town too in many ways so I think the feel will be similar. They are strict and will push you, but they are patient too. You will be in an apartment and they'll help you with your first shopping excursion and get you situated. You have your Braille, tech, home management, and travel classes along with woodshop. I enjoyed being in the play the center puts on every year at convention and the extra trips outside of class were a lot of fun. Just try to steer clear of the drama and it will be a great experience. Mine was great but had issues, but I blame the fact that I was 19 and very naive so found myself mixing with the wrong people. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:04 >> Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell >> >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and mobility skills I learned in school. >>> Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon >>> Brianna >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:39:35 -0500 > From: David Andrews > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > There is no player for windows. > > Dave > > At 01:41 PM 6/26/2017, you wrote: >> Hi All, >> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or does >> it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:40:59 -0500 > From: David Andrews > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > They have no plans to change this. They are concerned about the > security of the books, and legally have to be concerned, so no > Windows player where it would be much easier to pirate the books. > > Dave > > At 01:45 PM 6/26/2017, you wrote: >> Hi Ian, >> Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a >> computer. Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. >> Cullen >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or >> does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:42:09 -0500 > From: David Andrews > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Listening to BARD books on my windows laptop > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I don't think BARD Express actually plays the books. It is just an > easier way to download books and load them onto a cartridge or player. > > Dave > > At 03:52 PM 6/26/2017, you wrote: >> yes. There is away. Try bard express. I don't have the link yet. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6s >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Cullen Gallagher via NABS-L >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ian, >>> Unfortunately, there is no way to listen to Bard books on a >> computer. Hopefully, NLS has plans to change this in the future. >>> Cullen >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Ian Perrault via NABS-L >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> Is there a way to listen to BARD books on my windows laptop, or >> does it have to be on just the IPhone app or a BARD player? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 22:13:22 -0500 > From: "Michael Ausbun" > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > Message-ID: <003a01d2f085$ab9f8300$02de8900$@nevada.unr.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hey there, > I am a current student here at the Louisiana Center for the Blind; although, > I graduate on Friday. Honestly, I wish I would have come to training before > I went off and got my B.A. in Philosophy; the world would have been so much > more opened, and opportunities would have been much greater. Before coming > here, I did all right. I managed not to starve to death, I traveled around > ok, I finished college; but there was so many things I was not doing, which > I could have been doing, and just never had the courage to try. LCB has done > a lot for me, but most of all it has increased my confidence in my own > ability, while providing me with the skills to truly live the life I want to > live fully integrated, while receiving competitive employment and equal > access to technology, job prospects, education, and so many other things > equal to my sighted counterparts. I cannot wait to meet you, as I will be a > graduate student at Louisiana Tech University when you arrive! > Best, > Michael Ausbun, Secretary > National Association of Blind Students > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rex Schuttler > via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:07 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Rex Schuttler > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell > > Hello, I am a recent graduate of the Louisiana training center. And I'm also > a counselor in their summer step program for high school students. And I > just now completed my first college semester. Without the Lcb and their > instructors I would not be where I'm at right now. Yes they will push you > beyond your boundaries but it will be worth it in the long run. > > Rex Schuttler > Second Vice President of the national Federation of the blind of Oklahoma > President of the Central Oklahoma chapter of the national Federation of the > blind of Oklahoma cell phone number > 918-955-6761 > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Leena Bandy via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Louisiana is a great place. Ruston is a small town too in many ways so I > think the feel will be similar. They are strict and will push you, but they > are patient too. You will be in an apartment and they'll help you with your > first shopping excursion and get you situated. You have your Braille, tech, > home management, and travel classes along with woodshop. I enjoyed being in > the play the center puts on every year at convention and the extra trips > outside of class were a lot of fun. Just try to steer clear of the drama and > it will be a great experience. Mine was great but had issues, but I blame > the fact that I was 19 and very naive so found myself mixing with the wrong > people. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Brianna's Email via NABS-L >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:04 >> Subject: [nabs-l] Experiences at LCB Brianna McDowell >> >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, my name is Brianna McDowell. I'm a blind college student > from Georgia. I've just recently graduated from college with my associates > degree in social work. I've decided to go ahead and start independence > training at the Louisiana Center For the Blind. I'd like to know what > experiences those of you who went had. What can I expect t? Also, I guess > I'm a bit nervous because I'll be far away from home in an unfamiliar city. > I'm from a small town in Georgia, and i've lost some of the orientation and > mobility skills I learned in school. >>> Look forward to hearing from you Guys soon Brianna >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gma >>> il.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rexschuttler%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 22:07:05 -0600 > From: Amy Sabo > To: NFB of Colorado Discussion List > Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: [nabs-l] outlook problems > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > hello all, I hope that you are all doing well tonight. well, as the > subject says it all I'm having problems with ms office which is ms > office 2016. I bought ms off 2016 last night and, I downloaded it onto > my computer and, then I installed it onto my computer and, I keep > getting this error message that I need to log into my impt server on > gmail which I have done by typing in my email address/user name and, > then my password. then it doesn't take it! I have tried this many > times with multiple tries... I have also saved all the settings in > gmaill settings menu but, I keep on getting this error message and, I > have tried using gmail through the web mail and, have through my > session jfw locks up on me and then freezes! I have tried fixing this > problem with freedom and, I though that it was fixed well, I was > wrong... so, here's my problem what should I do to fix the problems in > using outlook 2016 with jfw 18? I would appreciate any help if > possible. please email me off list at amieelsabo at gmail.com or you can > call me at 303-588-7725. thanks again and, I will talk to you all > soon! hugs, from amy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 128, Issue 32 > *************************************** From louvins at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 19:04:45 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:04:45 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible In-Reply-To: <12082ECE-C858-4B3E-BAEA-4ED09BE16E54@gmail.com> References: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> <12082ECE-C858-4B3E-BAEA-4ED09BE16E54@gmail.com> Message-ID: There's more then one kind of audible plan. I chose the 2 credit per month plan. Every blind person in the United States should be signed up with bard. Bard has a not of great stuff. I've got an external hard drive with 1.41 TB of NLS bard books on it. On 6/29/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > Thank you for the info maybe I'll see about getting free barred membership > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> Coincidentally, I just investigated this topic myself the other day. You >> do have to pay for the membership, I believe it is $14 and some change a >> month and it only gives you one book credit per month. I haven't found it >> to be especially useful on that front, because you're essentially just >> paying the full price for an audiobook each month as if you were buying >> the book outright. You can get a 30 day trial though, during which you get >> 2 free book credits. Also, from what I have found so far the books are >> only available in recorded audio format, so if you were planning to read >> the book using a refreshable braille display as in hoping to read the book >> in braille, I don't think this is possible. As mentioned before, if you're >> only planning to get a few books here and there, it's cheaper to pay for >> them individually than to use a membership. >> >> Ellana Crew, Vice President >> Maryland Association of Blind Students >> Website: nfbmd.org/students >> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> >>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Jessica Hodges via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Audible is a paid service. You can pay by the book, or you can pay a set >>> price for a certain number of credits a month, which allows you to redeem >>> them for any book in audible's catalogue. If you are only looking to get >>> one or two books from audible, you might want to buy them individually, >>> but if you think you will be a regular user of the service, credits would >>> be the way to go, as books get expensive. And credits can always be saved >>> for a rainy day. Hope this is helpful! >>> >>> Jessica. >>> >>> >>>> On 6/29/2017 8:39 AM, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Dear Students, >>>> >>>> I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for >>>> this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking about >>>> wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have to pay >>>> for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used this >>>> service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 20:35:20 2017 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:35:20 +0100 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser help In-Reply-To: <53D096D7-34CD-440E-8927-4814D258146C@gmail.com> References: <53D096D7-34CD-440E-8927-4814D258146C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Tristan, Without the original electronic document, no one can say exactly why the embossed version turned out this way. It sounds like it could be a margins error or the characters per line limit, or perhaps, the lines per page limit, have acceded the limits of the size of the page you were working with. Again,the only way to prove or disprove this theory is to re-emboss the document with changes to the above parameters. I hope some of this is helpful to you. Very best wishes, Sandra. On 6/29/17, Tristan Torres via NABS-L wrote: > Hi All. I am reaching out on a work-related venture. My university has > employed me to help improve the experience of blind students on campus by > evaluating the accessibility of documents from multiple formats, one of > which is braille. I am encountering a problem with several documents in > which the braille on a particular page seems to cut off inexplicably, while > others seem to be in tact. I am no expert in embossing, and neither are the > people employing me, so I was hoping that one of you could help me resolve > this. Look forward to hearing from you all soon. Thanks for your help in > advance. Tristan > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com > -- Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From goosie1011 at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 22:08:27 2017 From: goosie1011 at gmail.com (Garrett Kearns) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:08:27 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible In-Reply-To: References: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> <0a40cbff-bb40-06a5-4a78-c8cd1895f06a@gmail.com> <12082ECE-C858-4B3E-BAEA-4ED09BE16E54@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've had an Audible membership for almost ten years. I find it incredibly useful when it comes to finding professionally recorded books I'm interested in listening to. You can either pay per book at full price, or you can get a membership which gives you a discount on everything and one free book per month. Credits are usually a bargain because you're paying a fraction of the price for an audiobook. the longer the book, the higher the price. On 6/29/17, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: > There's more then one kind of audible plan. I chose the 2 credit per > month plan. Every blind person in the United States should be signed > up with bard. Bard has a not of great stuff. I've got an external > hard drive with 1.41 TB of NLS bard books on it. > > On 6/29/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >> Thank you for the info maybe I'll see about getting free barred >> membership >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Coincidentally, I just investigated this topic myself the other day. You >>> do have to pay for the membership, I believe it is $14 and some change a >>> month and it only gives you one book credit per month. I haven't found >>> it >>> to be especially useful on that front, because you're essentially just >>> paying the full price for an audiobook each month as if you were buying >>> the book outright. You can get a 30 day trial though, during which you >>> get >>> 2 free book credits. Also, from what I have found so far the books are >>> only available in recorded audio format, so if you were planning to read >>> the book using a refreshable braille display as in hoping to read the >>> book >>> in braille, I don't think this is possible. As mentioned before, if >>> you're >>> only planning to get a few books here and there, it's cheaper to pay for >>> them individually than to use a membership. >>> >>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> >>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Jessica Hodges via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Audible is a paid service. You can pay by the book, or you can pay a >>>> set >>>> price for a certain number of credits a month, which allows you to >>>> redeem >>>> them for any book in audible's catalogue. If you are only looking to >>>> get >>>> one or two books from audible, you might want to buy them individually, >>>> but if you think you will be a regular user of the service, credits >>>> would >>>> be the way to go, as books get expensive. And credits can always be >>>> saved >>>> for a rainy day. Hope this is helpful! >>>> >>>> Jessica. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 6/29/2017 8:39 AM, roanna bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Dear Students, >>>>> >>>>> I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for >>>>> this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking >>>>> about >>>>> wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have to >>>>> pay >>>>> for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used this >>>>> service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlhodges4%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/goosie1011%40gmail.com > From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Thu Jun 29 23:51:35 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:51:35 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible In-Reply-To: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> References: <5955034a.44a6ca0a.53f24.6ade@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I don't think the braille note supports audible. But the humanware vr stream does. Yes, you pay a subscription to get audible books; it is monthly. -----Original Message----- From: roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:39 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Audible Dear Students, I hope all of you are doing well as you prepare to head to Orlando for this year's convention. I have a question for you. I am thinking about wanting to read audible books on my BrailleNote Apex. Do I have to pay for an audible membership or is it free? Have any of you used this service to read audio books? Hope to hear from you soon. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From robertleslienewman at gmail.com Fri Jun 30 01:55:35 2017 From: robertleslienewman at gmail.com (Robert Leslie Newman) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:55:35 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Room for Convention - AVAILABLE Message-ID: Hi, Sorry I cannot make this convention! I too have a room that I need to let go. Contact me at 402-660-1743 (Email: robertleslienewman at gmail.com) Dates July 9-15 (these dates may not matter, could all be changed.) I will provide the room conformation number, and the last four digits of my credit card, and you can assume all costs on your card! (Hotel says this works.) Respectfully yours, Robert Leslie Newman From amylsabo at comcast.net Fri Jun 30 04:10:09 2017 From: amylsabo at comcast.net (Amy Sabo) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 22:10:09 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Room for Convention - AVAILABLE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello robert, this is awesome news! i have been praying for this news and, with the grace of god my prayers have been answered this all sounds great! i will email you off list to see if i can do this or not! thanks again and, i will talk to you soon. hugs, amy On 6/29/17, Robert Leslie Newman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, Sorry I cannot make this convention! > > I too have a room that I need to let go. Contact me at 402-660-1743 > (Email: robertleslienewman at gmail.com) > Dates July 9-15 (these dates may not matter, could all be changed.) > > I will provide the room conformation number, and the last four digits > of my credit card, and you can assume all costs on your card! (Hotel > says this works.) > > > Respectfully yours, > Robert Leslie Newman > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > From tristan.torres09 at gmail.com Fri Jun 30 11:49:34 2017 From: tristan.torres09 at gmail.com (Tristan torres) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 07:49:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Embosser help In-Reply-To: References: <53D096D7-34CD-440E-8927-4814D258146C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1273AF4B-9450-4F6D-A7AF-41DD40C763C8@gmail.com> Thank you, yes, that does help immensely. Where are the lying and margin settings located? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Tristan, > Without the original electronic document, no one can say exactly why > the embossed version turned out this way. It sounds like it could be a > margins error or the characters per line limit, or perhaps, the lines > per page limit, have acceded the limits of the size of the page you > were working with. Again,the only way to prove or disprove this theory > is to re-emboss the document with changes to the above parameters. > > I hope some of this is helpful to you. > Very best wishes, > Sandra. > >> On 6/29/17, Tristan Torres via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi All. I am reaching out on a work-related venture. My university has >> employed me to help improve the experience of blind students on campus by >> evaluating the accessibility of documents from multiple formats, one of >> which is braille. I am encountering a problem with several documents in >> which the braille on a particular page seems to cut off inexplicably, while >> others seem to be in tact. I am no expert in embossing, and neither are the >> people employing me, so I was hoping that one of you could help me resolve >> this. Look forward to hearing from you all soon. Thanks for your help in >> advance. Tristan >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Soprano Singer > www.sandragayer.com > > Broadcast Presenter > > www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html > > Voiceover Artist > > www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tristan.torres09%40gmail.com From GCazares at nfb.org Fri Jun 30 12:47:03 2017 From: GCazares at nfb.org (Cazares, Gabe) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:47:03 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] The 2017 Self-Advocacy in Higher Education Seminar Message-ID: Howdy Students, Are you a middle school or high school student already thinking about college? Are you currently an undergraduate or graduate student navigating the sometimes intricate world of higher education? Are you wondering how to maximize relationships with professors, school administrators, or even your vocational rehabilitation agency? Want to hear from students who are successfully tackling higher ed? Join us for the 2017 Self-Advocacy in Higher Education Seminar When: Thursday July 13, 2017 Time: 6:00 - 8:00 pm Location: Rosen Shingle Creek Resort, Panzacola F-2, Level1 A workshop for current or soon-to-be undergraduate or graduate students to know your legal rights and learn effective strategies for self-advocacy in obtaining accommodations and accessing instructional materials and digital content. Gabe Cazares and Valerie Yingling, National Federation of the Blind; Sharon Krevor-Weisbaum, Managing Partner, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP Bring your questions, see you at convention very soon! (Seminar agenda attached and pasted below.) ...Gabe SELF-ADVOCACY IN HIGHER EDUCATION: Building Your Personal Advocacy Toolbox NFB Convention, Orlando July 13, 2017 6:00-8:00 PM-Panzacola F-2, Level 1 Moderator: Gabe Cazares 6:00 PM - Welcome and Introductory Remarks Kathryn Webster, President, National Association of Blind Students 6:05 PM - Know Your Legal Rights 101: Most Frequently Asked Questions Sharon Krevor-Weisbaum, Managing Partner, Brown, Goldstein and Levy, LLP 6:25 PM - Changing the landscape: Self-Advocacy, Collective Action, and Talking to the Right People-Success Stories Cricket Bidleman, Incoming Freshman, Stanford University; Associate Quality Assurance Engineer, NCS Pearson Inc. Precious Perez, Sophomore, Berklee College of Music; President, Massachusetts Association of Blind Students Edward Shaham, Online Student, Fox School of Business, Temple University; Past President, NFB of Connecticut Kathryn Webster, Recent Graduate, Wake Forest University; President, National Association of Blind Students 6:45 PM - Setting Yourself Up for Success: How to Build and Maintain a Positive Relationship with your Rehabilitation Counselor Daphne Mitchell, Program Manager for Vocational Rehabilitation Services, New Mexico Commission for the Blind; Second Vice President, NFB of New Mexico Stephanie Wagle, Transition Counselor, Nebraska Commission for the Blind and Visually Impaired 7:00 PM - What does the DSS Office do Anyway: Tips and Tricks to Get the Most out of Your Assistive Technology and Your DSS Office Angela Fowler, Alternate Media Specialist, Yuba Community College Chelsea Peahl, Alternative Technology Specialist, Utah Valley University 7:10 PM - What Does the Data Show: NFB Surveys and How You Can Help Make a Difference Valerie Yingling, Legal Program Coordinator, National Federation of the Blind 7:20 PM - An Update from the Hill: Status Report on Our 2017 Legislative Priorities Gabe Cazares, Kimie Beverly, and Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette, Government Affairs Team, National Federation of the Blind 7:30 PM - Question and Answer Session 8:00 PM - Adjourn Gabe Cazares Government Affairs Specialist 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2206 | gcazares at nfb.org [National Federation of the Blind] [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. 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