[nabs-l] Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
Rilind Dragoshi
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Wed Mar 8 17:29:01 UTC 2017
I usually have double time for all my tests, although in many cases it isn't needed.
The only time I needed more was once or twice when technological issues were present, such as the document translating in to French as I was typing, and then having to have to translate the document in to English. Another case was for a specific type of statistical question with nine different equations, as long story short it was many equations that involved going back and forth a lot. My advice is to explain right away initially what technological reasons exist that you need more time such as when having to scroll lists, matching, multiple choice, etc., or anything that causes you to need more time due to navigation purposes. Then, it's also important to explain that sometimes you may need more time due to technological issues or if a certain question takes more time navigationally due to the above reasons, and that you'll let them know right away if this happens. In such a case, the understanding becomes having the double time and knowing that if you encounter any additional challenges navigation/wise or technologically you will let someone know right away. The main thing to keep in mind in this case is that it is important to remember that when this kind of understanding is established, that in order for the mutual respect to not have any problems it is key to remember in all cases that the only reason as someone with a visual impairment or blindness that we need double or whatever extra time is agreed on is due to how long it takes to access and fill in the material. Therefore, it is not a reason to take extra time on questions just because you have extra time.
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1. Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
(Ahbee Orton)
2. Re: Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
(Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer)
3. Re: Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
(Elizabeth Mohnke)
4. The Definition of a Qualified Reader? (Elizabeth Mohnke)
5. Re: Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
(Jamie P.)
6. Re: Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
(Bobbi Pompey)
7. Re: Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
(Alexandra Alfonso)
8. More Questions Regarding Qualified Readers (Elizabeth Mohnke)
9. Re: More Questions Regarding Qualified Readers
(Vejas Vasiliauskas)
10. Music App on Iphone 6 (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:04:33 -0600
From: Ahbee Orton <ahbeeorton at yahoo.com>
To: Aleeha Dudley via Nabs-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] Accommodations on tests especially math and science
ones
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Dear All,
I'm wondering how long do you get on your tests, especially math and science ones? I ahve double time right now, but I was wondering if this is enough, because I took a test yesterday and it went ten minutes over the double time. I got a high score and finished my test. The other students are supposed to turn in what they have by the end of the class, so if I follow double time, I would have probably have gotten a lower score due to not finishing one question. Is this fair, and how do you take your tests? I've been taking my science science tests and most of my math tests on my iPad with my Focus 40 Braille display and a bluetooth keyboard. It may speed up the pace to do it on the Brailler. What do you all think? Thanks so much! I'm just worried that I won't get all the questions answered in double time next time. What do I do? I've taken some math tests that I went over double time, and they didn't make a big deal out of it, but now, they are. I'm kinda stressed out worrying about my future tests and not getting finished in that time frame.
Warmly,
Ahbee
?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.?
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 12:12:41 -0600
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I've got three times.
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> On Mar 7, 2017, at 10:04, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I'm wondering how long do you get on your tests, especially math and science ones? I ahve double time right now, but I was wondering if this is enough, because I took a test yesterday and it went ten minutes over the double time. I got a high score and finished my test. The other students are supposed to turn in what they have by the end of the class, so if I follow double time, I would have probably have gotten a lower score due to not finishing one question. Is this fair, and how do you take your tests? I've been taking my science science tests and most of my math tests on my iPad with my Focus 40 Braille display and a bluetooth keyboard. It may speed up the pace to do it on the Brailler. What do you all think? Thanks so much! I'm just worried that I won't get all the questions answered in double time next time. What do I do? I've taken some math tests that I went over double time, and they didn't make a big deal out of it, but now, they are. I'm kinda stressed out worrying about my future tests and not getting finished in that time frame.
>
> Warmly,
> Ahbee
>
> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.?
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 18:13:58 +0000
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Hello Ahbee,
I use time and a half for my tests and quizzes, and I feel like this is enough time for me to complete my tests and quizzes. I generally use either a computer with a screen reader on it, a human reader, or some combination of these two accommodations for my tests and quizzes. In most cases I feel like I am able to complete the test or quiz in the same amount of time as my sighted peers.
However, I like having the extra time in case something goes wrong with the technology or if I encounter a problem with the reader. I do not have any control over the reader I am given by the disabilities office. So if I am given a reader I have never worked with before who may not necessarily be familiar with the material on the test or quiz, it can sometimes be a bit of a challenge working with the reader.
I feel like double time should be enough time for you to finish a test or a quiz. However, there could be a couple of different reasons why you may have a difficult time completing a test or a quiz in this amount of time. First, it could indicate that you do not know the material enough for the test or quiz. In this case, you may wish to study more to prepare for the test or the quiz. Second, it could be that you are simply not good at taking tests or quizzes, and you could benefit from learning strategies to help you take tests and quizzes better.
Finally, as you have suggested, it is possible you are using the wrong accommodations for your test or quiz. IF you find the first two reasons I mentioned do not apply to you or your situation, you may wish to change the accommodations you use for your tests and quizzes.
A good way to find out whether or not an accommodation works well for a test or a quiz is to use it when studying for the test or the quiz. If the accommodation works well for you when studying for the test or quiz, then it will most likely work well for you during the test or quiz. Another way to see if an accommodation works well for a test or a quiz is to take a practice test or quiz if it is available.
Finally, if you feel like you are really struggling on your tests or quizzes, talk to your instructor to see if they can give you any tips or suggestions on how you might be able to do better on their tests and quizzes. If there are particular types of questions that you struggle on while taking the test or quiz, perhaps your instructor can provide some suggestions on how you can improve your test taking skills, or clarify the information so you understand it better for the test or quiz.
Anyway, I hope these suggestions help you do better on your next test or quiz.
Warm regards,
Elizabeth
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Subject: [nabs-l] Accommodations on tests especially math and science ones
Dear All,
I'm wondering how long do you get on your tests, especially math and science ones? I ahve double time right now, but I was wondering if this is enough, because I took a test yesterday and it went ten minutes over the double time. I got a high score and finished my test. The other students are supposed to turn in what they have by the end of the class, so if I follow double time, I would have probably have gotten a lower score due to not finishing one question. Is this fair, and how do you take your tests? I've been taking my science science tests and most of my math tests on my iPad with my Focus 40 Braille display and a bluetooth keyboard. It may speed up the pace to do it on the Brailler. What do you all think? Thanks so much! I'm just worried that I won't get all the questions answered in double time next time. What do I do? I've taken some math tests that I went over double time, and they didn't make a big deal out of it, but now, they are. I'm kinda stressed out worrying about my future tests and not getting finished in that time frame.
Warmly,
Ahbee
?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.?
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 18:32:32 +0000
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Subject: [nabs-l] The Definition of a Qualified Reader?
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Hello All,
This past semester I was not able to receive the accommodations I needed for a math class. Since I do not know Braille very well, or know how to make a screen reader on a computer read the various math symbols, graphs, and charts, I find that using a human reader is the best way for me to gain equal access to the course materials required for my math classes.
However, it appears as though my college and I do not agree on what constitutes as a qualified reader. I have tried searching online to see if I can find a legal definition of a qualified reader, or any recent settlement cases involving the use of a reader to see if this might help provide some clarification as to what constitutes as a qualified reader. However, I have not been able to find anything that I believe would help me. It seems as though all the definitions I have found regarding the definition of a qualified reader are rather vague and could be interpreted in different ways by different people.
I am currently trying to write a complaint using the complaint process within my college regarding the lack of accommodations I received for my math class this semester. I am not completely sure how to write this complaint, but I believe having a clear definition of what constitutes a qualified reader would be helpful for this complaint as well as advocating for myself as a blind student with an additional disability. If anyone has a good clear definition of what constitutes as a qualified reader, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks,
Elizabeth
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:38:28 -0700
From: "Jamie P." <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
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I normally use double time for math and science tests, though I am finding that ever since I completed Calculus 3 and moved on to linear algebra and differential equations, this time has not been sufficient. It just takes too long to write and manipulate the equations and matrices. I understand the material well, but I lose a lot of points when I don't have time to finish working out the problems.
-Jamie
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> On Mar 7, 2017, at 11:13, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Ahbee,
>
> I use time and a half for my tests and quizzes, and I feel like this is enough time for me to complete my tests and quizzes. I generally use either a computer with a screen reader on it, a human reader, or some combination of these two accommodations for my tests and quizzes. In most cases I feel like I am able to complete the test or quiz in the same amount of time as my sighted peers.
>
> However, I like having the extra time in case something goes wrong with the technology or if I encounter a problem with the reader. I do not have any control over the reader I am given by the disabilities office. So if I am given a reader I have never worked with before who may not necessarily be familiar with the material on the test or quiz, it can sometimes be a bit of a challenge working with the reader.
>
> I feel like double time should be enough time for you to finish a test or a quiz. However, there could be a couple of different reasons why you may have a difficult time completing a test or a quiz in this amount of time. First, it could indicate that you do not know the material enough for the test or quiz. In this case, you may wish to study more to prepare for the test or the quiz. Second, it could be that you are simply not good at taking tests or quizzes, and you could benefit from learning strategies to help you take tests and quizzes better.
>
> Finally, as you have suggested, it is possible you are using the wrong accommodations for your test or quiz. IF you find the first two reasons I mentioned do not apply to you or your situation, you may wish to change the accommodations you use for your tests and quizzes.
>
> A good way to find out whether or not an accommodation works well for a test or a quiz is to use it when studying for the test or the quiz. If the accommodation works well for you when studying for the test or quiz, then it will most likely work well for you during the test or quiz. Another way to see if an accommodation works well for a test or a quiz is to take a practice test or quiz if it is available.
>
> Finally, if you feel like you are really struggling on your tests or quizzes, talk to your instructor to see if they can give you any tips or suggestions on how you might be able to do better on their tests and quizzes. If there are particular types of questions that you struggle on while taking the test or quiz, perhaps your instructor can provide some suggestions on how you can improve your test taking skills, or clarify the information so you understand it better for the test or quiz.
>
> Anyway, I hope these suggestions help you do better on your next test or quiz.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Orton via NABS-L
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:05 AM
> To: Aleeha Dudley via Nabs-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ahbee Orton <ahbeeorton at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Accommodations on tests especially math and science
> ones
>
> Dear All,
>
> I'm wondering how long do you get on your tests, especially math and science ones? I ahve double time right now, but I was wondering if this is enough, because I took a test yesterday and it went ten minutes over the double time. I got a high score and finished my test. The other students are supposed to turn in what they have by the end of the class, so if I follow double time, I would have probably have gotten a lower score due to not finishing one question. Is this fair, and how do you take your tests? I've been taking my science science tests and most of my math tests on my iPad with my Focus 40 Braille display and a bluetooth keyboard. It may speed up the pace to do it on the Brailler. What do you all think? Thanks so much! I'm just worried that I won't get all the questions answered in double time next time. What do I do? I've taken some math tests that I went over double time, and they didn't make a big deal out of it, but now, they are. I'm kinda stressed out worrying about my future tests and not getting finished in that time frame.
>
> Warmly,
> Ahbee
>
> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.?
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:43:02 -0500
From: Bobbi Pompey <pompey2010 at yahoo.com>
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Hello ahbee,
I had time and a half for most of my tests. Unless they involved things that would take me more time to do.
also, I would advise you to remember that your sighted peers may not be finishing the test either. So it is unfair for us to receive ample time to finish if the same is not given to our peers.
HTH,
Bobbi A. L. Pompey
(336) 988-6375
bobbipompey at gmail.com
"Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin
> On Mar 7, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Ahbee,
>
> I use time and a half for my tests and quizzes, and I feel like this is enough time for me to complete my tests and quizzes. I generally use either a computer with a screen reader on it, a human reader, or some combination of these two accommodations for my tests and quizzes. In most cases I feel like I am able to complete the test or quiz in the same amount of time as my sighted peers.
>
> However, I like having the extra time in case something goes wrong with the technology or if I encounter a problem with the reader. I do not have any control over the reader I am given by the disabilities office. So if I am given a reader I have never worked with before who may not necessarily be familiar with the material on the test or quiz, it can sometimes be a bit of a challenge working with the reader.
>
> I feel like double time should be enough time for you to finish a test or a quiz. However, there could be a couple of different reasons why you may have a difficult time completing a test or a quiz in this amount of time. First, it could indicate that you do not know the material enough for the test or quiz. In this case, you may wish to study more to prepare for the test or the quiz. Second, it could be that you are simply not good at taking tests or quizzes, and you could benefit from learning strategies to help you take tests and quizzes better.
>
> Finally, as you have suggested, it is possible you are using the wrong accommodations for your test or quiz. IF you find the first two reasons I mentioned do not apply to you or your situation, you may wish to change the accommodations you use for your tests and quizzes.
>
> A good way to find out whether or not an accommodation works well for a test or a quiz is to use it when studying for the test or the quiz. If the accommodation works well for you when studying for the test or quiz, then it will most likely work well for you during the test or quiz. Another way to see if an accommodation works well for a test or a quiz is to take a practice test or quiz if it is available.
>
> Finally, if you feel like you are really struggling on your tests or quizzes, talk to your instructor to see if they can give you any tips or suggestions on how you might be able to do better on their tests and quizzes. If there are particular types of questions that you struggle on while taking the test or quiz, perhaps your instructor can provide some suggestions on how you can improve your test taking skills, or clarify the information so you understand it better for the test or quiz.
>
> Anyway, I hope these suggestions help you do better on your next test or quiz.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
>
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> Orton via NABS-L
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:05 AM
> To: Aleeha Dudley via Nabs-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ahbee Orton <ahbeeorton at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Accommodations on tests especially math and science
> ones
>
> Dear All,
>
> I'm wondering how long do you get on your tests, especially math and science ones? I ahve double time right now, but I was wondering if this is enough, because I took a test yesterday and it went ten minutes over the double time. I got a high score and finished my test. The other students are supposed to turn in what they have by the end of the class, so if I follow double time, I would have probably have gotten a lower score due to not finishing one question. Is this fair, and how do you take your tests? I've been taking my science science tests and most of my math tests on my iPad with my Focus 40 Braille display and a bluetooth keyboard. It may speed up the pace to do it on the Brailler. What do you all think? Thanks so much! I'm just worried that I won't get all the questions answered in double time next time. What do I do? I've taken some math tests that I went over double time, and they didn't make a big deal out of it, but now, they are. I'm kinda stressed out worrying about my future tests and not getting finished in that time frame.
>
> Warmly,
> Ahbee
>
> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.?
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:50:04 -0500
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On my math and science tests, I use time and a half. I use my braillenote apex. I usually finish with time to spare.
On 3/7/17, Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello ahbee,
>
> I had time and a half for most of my tests. Unless they involved
> things that would take me more time to do.
>
> also, I would advise you to remember that your sighted peers may not
> be finishing the test either. So it is unfair for us to receive ample
> time to finish if the same is not given to our peers.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Bobbi A. L. Pompey
> (336) 988-6375
> bobbipompey at gmail.com
>
> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until
> it is faced" James Baldwin
>
>> On Mar 7, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ahbee,
>>
>> I use time and a half for my tests and quizzes, and I feel like this
>> is enough time for me to complete my tests and quizzes. I generally
>> use either a computer with a screen reader on it, a human reader, or
>> some combination of these two accommodations for my tests and
>> quizzes. In most cases I feel like I am able to complete the test or
>> quiz in the same amount of time as my sighted peers.
>>
>> However, I like having the extra time in case something goes wrong
>> with the technology or if I encounter a problem with the reader. I do
>> not have any control over the reader I am given by the disabilities
>> office. So if I am given a reader I have never worked with before who
>> may not necessarily be familiar with the material on the test or
>> quiz, it can sometimes be a bit of a challenge working with the reader.
>>
>> I feel like double time should be enough time for you to finish a
>> test or a quiz. However, there could be a couple of different reasons
>> why you may have a difficult time completing a test or a quiz in this amount of time.
>> First, it could indicate that you do not know the material enough for
>> the test or quiz. In this case, you may wish to study more to prepare
>> for the test or the quiz. Second, it could be that you are simply not
>> good at taking tests or quizzes, and you could benefit from learning
>> strategies to help you take tests and quizzes better.
>>
>> Finally, as you have suggested, it is possible you are using the
>> wrong accommodations for your test or quiz. IF you find the first two
>> reasons I mentioned do not apply to you or your situation, you may
>> wish to change the accommodations you use for your tests and quizzes.
>>
>> A good way to find out whether or not an accommodation works well for
>> a test or a quiz is to use it when studying for the test or the quiz.
>> If the accommodation works well for you when studying for the test or
>> quiz, then it will most likely work well for you during the test or
>> quiz. Another way to see if an accommodation works well for a test or
>> a quiz is to take a practice test or quiz if it is available.
>>
>> Finally, if you feel like you are really struggling on your tests or
>> quizzes, talk to your instructor to see if they can give you any tips
>> or suggestions on how you might be able to do better on their tests
>> and quizzes. If there are particular types of questions that you
>> struggle on while taking the test or quiz, perhaps your instructor
>> can provide some suggestions on how you can improve your test taking
>> skills, or clarify the information so you understand it better for the test or quiz.
>>
>> Anyway, I hope these suggestions help you do better on your next test
>> or quiz.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ahbee
>> Orton via NABS-L
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:05 AM
>> To: Aleeha Dudley via Nabs-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ahbee Orton <ahbeeorton at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Accommodations on tests especially math and science
>> ones
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I'm wondering how long do you get on your tests, especially math and
>> science ones? I ahve double time right now, but I was wondering if
>> this is enough, because I took a test yesterday and it went ten
>> minutes over the double time. I got a high score and finished my
>> test. The other students are supposed to turn in what they have by
>> the end of the class, so if I follow double time, I would have
>> probably have gotten a lower score due to not finishing one question. Is this fair, and how do you take your tests?
>> I've been taking my science science tests and most of my math tests
>> on my iPad with my Focus 40 Braille display and a bluetooth keyboard.
>> It may speed up the pace to do it on the Brailler. What do you all
>> think? Thanks so much! I'm just worried that I won't get all the
>> questions answered in double time next time. What do I do? I've taken
>> some math tests that I went over double time, and they didn't make a
>> big deal out of it, but now, they are. I'm kinda stressed out
>> worrying about my future tests and not getting finished in that time frame.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Ahbee
>>
>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast,
>> it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking,
>> it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not
>> delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects,
>> always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.?
>> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:46:34 +0000
From: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
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Subject: [nabs-l] More Questions Regarding Qualified Readers
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Hello All,
Please forgive the multiple posts. However, after sending my previous email, I was wondering if there might be any kind of standers or guidelines for reading materials for math or science classes. If there are any credible sources for standards or guidelines for reading materials for math or science classes, perhaps this might help me establish a good definition of a qualified reader for my math classes.
I understand some of you may believe that Braille is the only way to go in terms of being able to access materials for math classes. However, as I have already indicated, I do not know Braille well enough to use for my math classes. And as someone who grew up sighted, most of the time it is just easier for someone to read me a simple graphic or chart than it is for me to figure out how to read this information in Braille.
The types of graphics and charts that were included in the math class that I tried to take this semester included such things as number lines and a chart that was like an excel spreadsheet listing names of cities down one Colum and temperatures going down another Colum. I am not quite sure what might be included in the other math classes that I need to take to meet the university math requirement for the university I would like to be able to transfer to after completing my associates degree.
I am not looking to complete advance math classes here. I am simply trying to take what is required to meet the transfer requirements. However, I am not quite sure how to go about fulfilling my math requirement when the disabilities office at the community college that I attend does not appear to work with me so I can gain equal access to the course required for my math classes.
I do not know how else to gain access to the course materials required for my math classes, and so far the college does not agree with me on what constitutes as a qualified reader. So again, any assistance anyone could provide in helping me find a credible source for a good clear definition of qualified reader would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Elizabeth
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:04:33 -0800
From: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] More Questions Regarding Qualified Readers
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Hi Elizabeth,
I didn't know that there was such a thing as a "qualified"
reader"-I have learned that there are volunteer and paid readers.
I would think that the ideal math and science reader should be able to understand how to do all the basic math and science symbols.
I have a math reader. I have the book in Braille, but it is to clarify with diagrams. She's a freshman at my college also, and took the material I am currently taking last semester, so it is nice and fresh in her mind. (As I mentioned awhile back in one of my other emails to you, my Disability Services chooses readers by departments, although I fully understand that yours are not
willing.)
I think the 2 best options are:
1. Department of Rehab: How flexible are they? Ideally they should be able to pay for you to have a human reader if your DSS are unwilling.
2. Find your own reader via church, putting up posters, or maybe even emailing your Dean? They might be able to connect you with some people. Explain that you're looking for someone with basic math and science abilities. Then I sofest interviewing them.
Since you already tried to take that course this semester, you may already have some worksheets available. Then you could ask them questions like, "What does this say?" Or "Can you read this?"
So I think your ideal reader should:
1. Understand basic math and science skills (if they understand advanced, even better) 2. Be willing to work with you and take your commands such as "slower" and "faster"
3. Not have too heavy an accent.
Hope this helps,
Vejas
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From: Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,NFB Science and Engineering Division List <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>, "NFB ofMichigan Internet Mailing List"
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Date sent: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:46:34 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] More Questions Regarding Qualified Readers
Hello All,
Please forgive the multiple posts. However, after sending my previous email, I was wondering if there might be any kind of standers or guidelines for reading materials for math or science classes. If there are any credible sources for standards or guidelines for reading materials for math or science classes, perhaps this might help me establish a good definition of a qualified reader for my math classes.
I understand some of you may believe that Braille is the only way to go in terms of being able to access materials for math classes. However, as I have already indicated, I do not know Braille well enough to use for my math classes. And as someone who grew up sighted, most of the time it is just easier for someone to read me a simple graphic or chart than it is for me to figure out how to read this information in Braille.
The types of graphics and charts that were included in the math class that I tried to take this semester included such things as number lines and a chart that was like an excel spreadsheet listing names of cities down one Colum and temperatures going down another Colum. I am not quite sure what might be included in the other math classes that I need to take to meet the university math requirement for the university I would like to be able to transfer to after completing my associates degree.
I am not looking to complete advance math classes here. I am simply trying to take what is required to meet the transfer requirements. However, I am not quite sure how to go about fulfilling my math requirement when the disabilities office at the community college that I attend does not appear to work with me so I can gain equal access to the course required for my math classes.
I do not know how else to gain access to the course materials required for my math classes, and so far the college does not agree with me on what constitutes as a qualified reader. So again, any assistance anyone could provide in helping me find a credible source for a good clear definition of qualified reader would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Elizabeth
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:11:23 -0800
From: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Music App on Iphone 6
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Hi All,
I have a question related to the I-Phone and was wondering if
this might be a Voice-Over issue or if anyone has experienced
this. Sometimes, for no apparent reason, a track that I did not
select will play when I am not even in the music app. When I
tried to close the music app in the app-switcher, I saw that I
had not even had the music app open. Does anyone know how I
might be able to fix this?
Thanks,
Vejas
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