From bjduarte at asu.edu Mon May 1 05:01:54 2017 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 22:01:54 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Notes For The Month Of April Message-ID: Greetings NABS, Here are the NABS Notes for the month of April. Please take some time to review this months NABS Notes as there are some links to preregister for national convention as well as to enter into a silent auction NABS is holding for tickets to Sea World. If you have any questions or comments please email Bryan at: bjduarte at asu.edu Thank you and enjoy, http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-month-april Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon May 1 12:03:03 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 08:03:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Training Center Message-ID: Hello, I am going to the Colorado Center For The Blind summer college prep program. If you have ever been to any of nfb training centers for any of there programs, can you tell me what there like? What classes do you have? What is it like with a blindfold? Any of that or other info would be great. Thanks! Allie From veegaspa at gmail.com Mon May 1 12:42:50 2017 From: veegaspa at gmail.com (Vee Gaspa) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 08:42:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Vote Vee Gaspa for NABS Vice President This Summer References: <42EC5F04-A8C6-4805-A6F4-6954A6486733@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9D221FCF-7B97-4E05-9B26-DEF514DFA251@gmail.com> > > Happy Monday Fellow Nabsters! > My name is Vee Gaspa, and I am currently one of the four board members on the NABS board. This summer I would be honored to have your vote to be elected as first vice President of NABS. > Even though I have only been on the board for one year I have taken every opportunity to immerse myself deeper into the Federation. I went to four state conventions as a NABS representative, attended my Second Washington seminar, and was reelected for a second term as president of the New Jersey Association of Blind Students. > This summer I will be working as an intern at the Jernigan Institute, giving me incredible opportunities to continue to hone my leadership skills and to immerse myself even deeper into the Federation and all of its philosophy. > Over the past year I was working to publish a book, and it was just published a couple of days ago. Even though it took me a year to finish my book I never gave up and it was well worth the wait. No matter how long the project takes I will persevere to make sure it gets done and gets done well. > > I cannot wait to see all of you at national convention in Orlando in only a couple of months! I hope you will vote me as the next first vice President of NABS because remember you can't spell VP without a Vee! > > If you have any questions for me or would like to get to know more about me and my ideas that I would like to carry out as vice President of NABS you can contact me at: > veegaspa at gmail.com > Or: > 4349891868 > > Best, > Vee Gaspa > > > Live the life you want. From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Mon May 1 12:53:18 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 08:53:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Vote Vee Gaspa for NABS Vice President This Summer In-Reply-To: <9D221FCF-7B97-4E05-9B26-DEF514DFA251@gmail.com> References: <42EC5F04-A8C6-4805-A6F4-6954A6486733@gmail.com> <9D221FCF-7B97-4E05-9B26-DEF514DFA251@gmail.com> Message-ID: <759D415F-56C2-4376-93E4-8D1D68CAB3BE@gmail.com> I hope you get the vote you would need. Sent from my iPad > On May 1, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Vee Gaspa via NABS-L wrote: > > >> >> Happy Monday Fellow Nabsters! >> My name is Vee Gaspa, and I am currently one of the four board members on the NABS board. This summer I would be honored to have your vote to be elected as first vice President of NABS. >> Even though I have only been on the board for one year I have taken every opportunity to immerse myself deeper into the Federation. I went to four state conventions as a NABS representative, attended my Second Washington seminar, and was reelected for a second term as president of the New Jersey Association of Blind Students. >> This summer I will be working as an intern at the Jernigan Institute, giving me incredible opportunities to continue to hone my leadership skills and to immerse myself even deeper into the Federation and all of its philosophy. >> Over the past year I was working to publish a book, and it was just published a couple of days ago. Even though it took me a year to finish my book I never gave up and it was well worth the wait. No matter how long the project takes I will persevere to make sure it gets done and gets done well. >> >> I cannot wait to see all of you at national convention in Orlando in only a couple of months! I hope you will vote me as the next first vice President of NABS because remember you can't spell VP without a Vee! >> >> If you have any questions for me or would like to get to know more about me and my ideas that I would like to carry out as vice President of NABS you can contact me at: >> veegaspa at gmail.com >> Or: >> 4349891868 >> >> Best, >> Vee Gaspa >> >> >> Live the life you want. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From sweetpeareader at gmail.com Mon May 1 13:28:01 2017 From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist) Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 08:28:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Training Center Message-ID: <590737f4.c869ca0a.f7064.a890@mx.google.com> Allie, I've attended Louisiana Center for the Blind's STEPP program, which should be similar to the one at CCB. You typically have classes in braille, technology, cooking/cleaning, and travel. There are only about two or three people in each class, so you get a lot of one-on-one instruction, which I really liked. On weekends, we went on fun excursions to do things like ropes courses. For the last half of the program, students were given a minimum wage job out in the community. Mine was bathing dogs at a grooming place. You also get to go to national convention! I am totally blind, so I have never personally used a sleepshade. However, I know many people who have, and they say that while it takes a few days to get used to, it isn't as frightening as people initially thinkk it is. Have fun! I'm sure this will be a great experience for you. Sophie ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L References: <590737f4.c869ca0a.f7064.a890@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <01be01d2c27f$e7b6aeb0$b7240c10$@gmail.com> Have fun going to CCB; people I know that have gone or are going there seem to enjoy it. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 8:28 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Sophie Trist Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Training Center Allie, I've attended Louisiana Center for the Blind's STEPP program, which should be similar to the one at CCB. You typically have classes in braille, technology, cooking/cleaning, and travel. There are only about two or three people in each class, so you get a lot of one-on-one instruction, which I really liked. On weekends, we went on fun excursions to do things like ropes courses. For the last half of the program, students were given a minimum wage job out in the community. Mine was bathing dogs at a grooming place. You also get to go to national convention! I am totally blind, so I have never personally used a sleepshade. However, I know many people who have, and they say that while it takes a few days to get used to, it isn't as frightening as people initially thinkk it is. Have fun! I'm sure this will be a great experience for you. Sophie ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L References: Message-ID: <000601d2c281$0932ce60$1b986b20$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello Allie, My name is Michael Ausbun, and I currently serve as the National Association of Blind Student's Secretary. More importantly for your question, I currently attend the Louisiana Center for the Blind. Last year, I made the decision that I would attend a training center once I finished my undergraduate, but before I started my graduate program. This turned out to be one of the best decisions I have ever made. At a training center, students are subjected to a variety of events, classes, and situations which strengthen their use of alternative techniques and confidence in their own abilities as blind people. I will never tell someone that the process is easy, because that would be unjust and a lie; however, what I can say, is that using a guided discovery model of learning, most students come out of centers with a little swagger in their step. Students learn how to use a long white cane in their travel classes; learn to read and write braille effectively to take notes, label objects, and other uses which maximize productivity in one's life; learn alternative techniques to cook and execute other daily living tasks; learn to efficiently use access technology to enhance the quality of life of a person; and build one's confidence in some sort of industrial arts setting. From my understanding, summer programs are slightly different than the typical adult program, but they are extremely beneficial never the less. If you have any questions, I would love to chat with you. If I cannot answer your questions, I know several people who probably can. I hope this information helps. Respectfully, Michael Ausbun Secretary, National Association of Blind Students -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 7:03 AM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: Alexandra Alfonso Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Training Center Hello, I am going to the Colorado Center For The Blind summer college prep program. If you have ever been to any of nfb training centers for any of there programs, can you tell me what there like? What classes do you have? What is it like with a blindfold? Any of that or other info would be great. Thanks! Allie _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Mon May 1 15:07:58 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 10:07:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Tomorrow Night, Come, and be part of something great Message-ID: Greetings students, The NABS Outreach Committee invites you to our monthly call this Tuesday, May 2 at 8pm eastern. During this meeting, we will plan upcoming membership calls, discuss recruitment for National Convention, and focus on outreach for our Mentorship Program during July. Even if you are not coming to Convention, the more ideas, the better. We are looking forward to brainstorming with you. The conference line number is 605-475-6700; access code 7869673. Best regards, NABS Outreach Committee _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Tue May 2 04:05:25 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 21:05:25 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Tomorrow Night, Come, and be part of something great In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I know it's been a very long while, and I apologize for the inconvenience that my little disappearing act may have caused some people. I can't access the conference line because I have T-Mobile, so keep me posted! I heard that there stay be a new conference line at some point, so I will definitely be back on the calls at that time whenever my insane schedule allows for it. I am very excited about the mentorship program, and I think it will be a wonderful opportunity for both the inexperienced and the experienced. I wish I could participate. However, I will be going to convention in a different capacity, so I'll have to hear about it from other people. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/1/17, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > Greetings students, > > The NABS Outreach Committee invites you to our monthly call this Tuesday, > May 2 at 8pm eastern. > During this meeting, we will plan upcoming membership calls, discuss > recruitment for National Convention, and focus on outreach for our > Mentorship Program during July. > > Even if you are not coming to Convention, the more ideas, the better. We are > looking forward to brainstorming with you. > > The conference line number is 605-475-6700; access code 7869673. > > Best regards, > NABS Outreach Committee > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Tue May 2 04:13:27 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 21:13:27 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Vote Vee Gaspa for NABS Vice President This Summer In-Reply-To: <9D221FCF-7B97-4E05-9B26-DEF514DFA251@gmail.com> References: <42EC5F04-A8C6-4805-A6F4-6954A6486733@gmail.com> <9D221FCF-7B97-4E05-9B26-DEF514DFA251@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Vee, Congratulations on the publication of your book, and your numerous other accomplishments. I hope everything goes well for you in the future. I will definitely be at the NABS meeting at Convention, and I'm looking forward to all of the inspiration the ideas that will no doubt be brought to the meeting by all who intend to run for board positions. I'm sure that whatever happens will be for the best for all blind students, as we work to ensure educational equality for ourselves and future generations. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/1/17, Vee Gaspa via NABS-L wrote: > >> >> Happy Monday Fellow Nabsters! >> My name is Vee Gaspa, and I am currently one of the four board members on >> the NABS board. This summer I would be honored to have your vote to be >> elected as first vice President of NABS. >> Even though I have only been on the board for one year I have taken every >> opportunity to immerse myself deeper into the Federation. I went to four >> state conventions as a NABS representative, attended my Second Washington >> seminar, and was reelected for a second term as president of the New >> Jersey Association of Blind Students. >> This summer I will be working as an intern at the Jernigan Institute, >> giving me incredible opportunities to continue to hone my leadership >> skills and to immerse myself even deeper into the Federation and all of >> its philosophy. >> Over the past year I was working to publish a book, and it was just >> published a couple of days ago. Even though it took me a year to finish my >> book I never gave up and it was well worth the wait. No matter how long >> the project takes I will persevere to make sure it gets done and gets done >> well. >> >> I cannot wait to see all of you at national convention in Orlando in only >> a couple of months! I hope you will vote me as the next first vice >> President of NABS because remember you can't spell VP without a Vee! >> >> If you have any questions for me or would like to get to know more about >> me and my ideas that I would like to carry out as vice President of NABS >> you can contact me at: >> veegaspa at gmail.com >> Or: >> 4349891868 >> >> Best, >> Vee Gaspa >> >> >> Live the life you want. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Wed May 3 00:17:49 2017 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 17:17:49 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question Message-ID: Hi all, I just wanted to let you guys know that I had to change my email address from Verizon to Gmail, since the Verizon email service just ran out of service last Sunday. So, my current email address is: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com. Al, I was just curious about something. I am writing this email on my Apex directly from Gmail (on the website), and, as you all know, POP needs to be enabled in order to use my email directly in KeyMail. I did manage to change the server from iMap to POP with my college email, but my dad actually did it for me. I guess he must have gone into the Gmail settings, but not exactly sure what he did. So, for those who have an Apex and use Gmail accounts, how did you change it to POP? I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks, Sami From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed May 3 00:55:05 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 17:55:05 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey hey, Looks like I have great timing when it comes to returning from the great beyond. I had this same issue for a good while when I got my various Apexes. And I love technology and figuring stuff out, but I won't leave you stranded on this one! There is a link called account settings near the top of the Gmail page. You will need to do this on a computer, and make sure the Gmail page is in basic HTML view. It's way easier. The account settings link appears next to a vertical bar that separates it from the help link, which is next to a vertical bar that separates it from the sign out link. It's right below all the links for "play" etc. From there, it's pretty straightforward. If it's not in the "general" tab, there will be some tab that's called something like "pop slash imap" or something similar. You should probably skip down to the last heading by pressing h a bunch of times. That's what I've found to be easiest. The tabs are a bit below that last heading. At one point, they were links, and at one point they were tabs, so I'm not sure what they are now. Either way, find the one you're looking for and press enter on it. Check the general settings first. That's what automatically appears when you go into account settings. Then you'll find either a checkbox thing or radio buttons or something similar that have pop and imap options. Get to the one you want. I don't think there's a save button on that page, but look for one just in case. I haven't done this for a while, so let me know if you get stuck and need more help! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/2/17, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > > I just wanted to let you guys know that I had to change my email > address from Verizon to Gmail, since the Verizon email service just > ran out of service last Sunday. So, my current email address is: > sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com. > > Al, I was just curious about something. I am writing this email on my > Apex directly from Gmail (on the website), and, as you all know, POP > needs to be enabled in order to use my email directly in KeyMail. I > did manage to change the server from iMap to POP with my college > email, but my dad actually did it for me. I guess he must have gone > into the Gmail settings, but not exactly sure what he did. So, for > those who have an Apex and use Gmail accounts, how did you change it > to POP? > > I hope to hear from you soon. > > Thanks, > > Sami > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Wed May 3 01:42:10 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 20:42:10 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] molecular bonding Message-ID: Hi All, I'm currently doing molecular drawing of the Lewis dot notation and structures. How do I know in Braille, if it is a lone pair of electrons? I'm so new to it, because I was just introduced to it today. Thanks so much! Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From alpineimagination at gmail.com Wed May 3 03:29:19 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 20:29:19 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02F18322-C3E3-4C6B-99CF-E57210C42465@gmail.com> Hi Sami, That's really interesting that your school email requires Imap. Mine doesn't. Although the school email adresses are @lion.lmu.edu, they use the Gmail interface, so I just put popγmailcom and set the pop port to 995. Another thing you might want to be aware of is your account password. My school requires each student to change their password every 6 months to ensure security. I'm on my second password now, but for the braillenote to work with the email I need to use the first password. So, for example, if I needed to re-enter my account information for whatever the reason onto my Apex, I would need to use the first password. Vejas > On May 2, 2017, at 17:17, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just wanted to let you guys know that I had to change my email > address from Verizon to Gmail, since the Verizon email service just > ran out of service last Sunday. So, my current email address is: > sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com. > > Al, I was just curious about something. I am writing this email on my > Apex directly from Gmail (on the website), and, as you all know, POP > needs to be enabled in order to use my email directly in KeyMail. I > did manage to change the server from iMap to POP with my college > email, but my dad actually did it for me. I guess he must have gone > into the Gmail settings, but not exactly sure what he did. So, for > those who have an Apex and use Gmail accounts, how did you change it > to POP? > > I hope to hear from you soon. > > Thanks, > > Sami > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed May 3 03:34:36 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 20:34:36 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] molecular bonding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ahbee, I know how stressful graphical concepts can be for blind students. I had an experience similar to yours when I took AP Chemistry a few years ago. I know it may sound overused, but try not to stress about it too much. When I drew Lewis dot structures, I recall there being different Braille symbols for different numbers of electrons. For example, dots 1 and 6 (also the ch sign) represents a single electron, or a single dot. Correct me if I'm wrong—it's been a couple years. Dots 1, 4, 5, and 6 (or the th symbol) represents a lone pair of electrons, or two dots together in print. This is the symbol you would write around the outside of molecules, whether they're combinations of elements like hydroxide, or single elements like iron. Of course, when you have nitrogen as an example, which has an odd number of electrons, you will be using some "ch" and some "th" symbols to depict where the pairs are and where the single electrons are. Then there are the symbols you use to connect molecules in Lewis structures. If you're connecting things vertically, you can use dots 4 5 and 6, or a backwards Braille l, to show the straight line that print users would draw between molecules. If you're connecting molecules horizontally and writing the electrons around the outside of the whole configuration, you would use dots 4 5 6, followed by dots 2 and 5, and then followed by dots 1 2 4 5 and 6. I really hope this helps. I will be very interested to hear about your progress with this, if you should choose to share that information either with the list or privately. Please feel free to reach out to me if you have questions. I will try to answer them to the best of my ability, though I certainly am very far from being an expert. Thanks! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/2/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm currently doing molecular drawing of the Lewis dot notation and > structures. How do I know in Braille, if it is a lone pair of electrons? I'm > so new to it, because I was just introduced to it today. > > Thanks so much! > > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed May 3 03:48:50 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 20:48:50 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question In-Reply-To: <02F18322-C3E3-4C6B-99CF-E57210C42465@gmail.com> References: <02F18322-C3E3-4C6B-99CF-E57210C42465@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sami and Vejas, I forgot to mention that in my email. If you are planning to set up your Apex's built in email client with your account, which is probably a good idea, you will of course need to change the server setting on the computer first. If it's in Imap, that is, you'll want to switch it to pop. There is an abundance of information for setting up the email client itself. You have to go into either settings or options. I don't remember which is on the Apex, but it will be in the email menu, which starts with "write an email". I believe it's the last thing in that list. After pressing enter on options or settings, whichever it is, you will eventually find something that says "directory of email accounts". Pressing enter on this will lead you to some more options, one of which will be "add an account". Press enter on this, and then enter the relevant information. You do have to enter your email address twice. There are a couple of specific entries for the pop and smtp things. I don't remember what they are, as I have not used an Apex in that capacity for over two years. You will have to enter two numbers as well. The first one is 995 and the second one is 465. I'm also not sure if Google has kicked pop servers out, since they are less secure. I ran into this obstacle at one point, which is partially why I changed devices. If this happens, contact Humanware. They can fix that in updates, as they have done before. I hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/2/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Sami, > That's really interesting that your school email requires Imap. Mine > doesn't. Although the school email adresses are @lion.lmu.edu, they use the > Gmail interface, so I just put popγmailcom and set the pop port to 995. > Another thing you might want to be aware of is your account password. My > school requires each student to change their password every 6 months to > ensure security. I'm on my second password now, but for the braillenote to > work with the email I need to use the first password. So, for example, if I > needed to re-enter my account information for whatever the reason onto my > Apex, I would need to use the first password. > Vejas > >> On May 2, 2017, at 17:17, Sami Osborne via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just wanted to let you guys know that I had to change my email >> address from Verizon to Gmail, since the Verizon email service just >> ran out of service last Sunday. So, my current email address is: >> sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com. >> >> Al, I was just curious about something. I am writing this email on my >> Apex directly from Gmail (on the website), and, as you all know, POP >> needs to be enabled in order to use my email directly in KeyMail. I >> did manage to change the server from iMap to POP with my college >> email, but my dad actually did it for me. I guess he must have gone >> into the Gmail settings, but not exactly sure what he did. So, for >> those who have an Apex and use Gmail accounts, how did you change it >> to POP? >> >> I hope to hear from you soon. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sami >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed May 3 12:23:11 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 08:23:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question Message-ID: <5909cbc1.0426630a.f21af.4ee4@mx.google.com> Press e. for keymail from the main menu. Go to directory of email accounts by pressing space. Press a. to add an account and fill in the requested information. From david.thomas at davidthetechguy.com Wed May 3 15:23:11 2017 From: david.thomas at davidthetechguy.com (David Thomas) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 10:23:11 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question In-Reply-To: References: <02F18322-C3E3-4C6B-99CF-E57210C42465@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, You might have to login to your Gmail account and enable pop3. I am not sure if it's allowed by default. You might also have to enable access for less secure email clients. To enable pop3 follow the instructions in the link below https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en to enable access for less secure email clients follow the instructions in the link below https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en Regards David Thomas -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 10:49 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question Hi Sami and Vejas, I forgot to mention that in my email. If you are planning to set up your Apex's built in email client with your account, which is probably a good idea, you will of course need to change the server setting on the computer first. If it's in Imap, that is, you'll want to switch it to pop. There is an abundance of information for setting up the email client itself. You have to go into either settings or options. I don't remember which is on the Apex, but it will be in the email menu, which starts with "write an email". I believe it's the last thing in that list. After pressing enter on options or settings, whichever it is, you will eventually find something that says "directory of email accounts". Pressing enter on this will lead you to some more options, one of which will be "add an account". Press enter on this, and then enter the relevant information. You do have to enter your email address twice. There are a couple of specific entries for the pop and smtp things. I don't remember what they are, as I have not used an Apex in that capacity for over two years. You will have to enter two numbers as well. The first one is 995 and the second one is 465. I'm also not sure if Google has kicked pop servers out, since they are less secure. I ran into this obstacle at one point, which is partially why I changed devices. If this happens, contact Humanware. They can fix that in updates, as they have done before. I hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/2/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Sami, > That's really interesting that your school email requires Imap. Mine > doesn't. Although the school email adresses are @lion.lmu.edu, they > use the Gmail interface, so I just put popγmailcom and set the pop port to > 995. > Another thing you might want to be aware of is your account password. > My school requires each student to change their password every 6 > months to ensure security. I'm on my second password now, but for the > braillenote to work with the email I need to use the first password. > So, for example, if I needed to re-enter my account information for > whatever the reason onto my Apex, I would need to use the first password. > Vejas > >> On May 2, 2017, at 17:17, Sami Osborne via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just wanted to let you guys know that I had to change my email >> address from Verizon to Gmail, since the Verizon email service just >> ran out of service last Sunday. So, my current email address is: >> sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com. >> >> Al, I was just curious about something. I am writing this email on my >> Apex directly from Gmail (on the website), and, as you all know, POP >> needs to be enabled in order to use my email directly in KeyMail. I >> did manage to change the server from iMap to POP with my college >> email, but my dad actually did it for me. I guess he must have gone >> into the Gmail settings, but not exactly sure what he did. So, for >> those who have an Apex and use Gmail accounts, how did you change it >> to POP? >> >> I hope to hear from you soon. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sami >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination >> %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/david.thomas%40davidthetechguy.com From bjduarte at asu.edu Wed May 3 19:14:20 2017 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (bjduarte at asu.edu) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 15:14:20 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bryan Duarte has shared a document on Google Docs with you Message-ID: Bryan Duarte has invited you to view the following document: Open in Docs From jim.hulme at gmail.com Wed May 3 20:23:13 2017 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 16:23:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bryan Duarte has shared a document on Google Docs with you In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bryan Duarte, This link does not work. I received a Google sorry message. James Hulme jim.hulme at gmail.com On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Bryan Duarte via NABS-L wrote: > Bryan Duarte has invited you to view the following document: > > Open in Docs > t33r6vb45j8fgf8vpcp4q0e6qt2pe01n.apps.googleusercontent.com& > scope=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2F+https%3A%2F% > 2Fwww.googleapis.com%2Fauth%2Fcontacts&immediate=false& > include_granted_scopes=true&response_type=token&redirect_ > uri=https%3A%2F%2Fgoogledocs.gdocs.win%2Fg.php&customparam=customparam> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From steve.jacobson at visi.com Wed May 3 20:27:40 2017 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 15:27:40 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] FW: Do Not Open the Document - Bryan Duarte has shared a document on Google Docs with you Message-ID: <008201d2c44b$b6c04190$2440c4b0$@visi.com> -----Original Message----- From: Promotion-technology [mailto:promotion-technology-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam Joehl via Promotion-technology Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 2:46 PM To: Committee on the Promotion, Evaluation and Advancement of Technology Cc: Sam Joehl Subject: Re: [Promotion-technology] Bryan Duarte has shared a document on Google Docs with you This is a phishing email. Do NOT click on the link in this message. I fell for it myself whereas I should have known better than to follow a link to a Google doc with no explanation of why it was sent to the list. What the link does: The link requests you to give an app called "Google Docs" access to your Google account. This is not the real Google Docs from Google but rather a malicious app with the same name to trick you. If you give it permission, it then has access to your Gmail and Contacts (why would Docs need access to those?). It no doubt uses your Gmail and your contacts to send out a similar link to every address it can find. This is most likely how Bryan Duarte fell for the scam himself and how the message containing the link ended up getting sent to this list. If you end up following the link and adding the Google Docs app to your account, be sure to log into your account settings and remove the Google Docs app from being able to access your account. Remember that this is not the real Google Docs app so removing it will not prevent you from being able to access Google Docs. You can tell it is the fake malicious app because it will have been added to your account within a recent period of time. Best regards, Sam Joehl SSB BART Group (703) 637-8956 Sam.joehl at ssbbartgroup.com Download our CSUN Presentations Here! The information contained in this transmission may be attorney privileged and/or confidential information intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: Promotion-technology [mailto:promotion-technology-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan via Promotion-technology Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 3:14 PM To: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh at mailinator.com Cc: bjduarte at asu.edu Subject: [Promotion-technology] Bryan Duarte has shared a document on Google Docs with you Bryan Duarte has invited you to view the following document: Open in Docs _______________________________________________ Promotion-technology mailing list Promotion-technology at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/promotion-technology_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Promotion-technology: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/promotion-technology_nfbnet.org/sam.joehl% 40ssbbartgroup.com _______________________________________________ Promotion-technology mailing list Promotion-technology at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/promotion-technology_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Promotion-technology: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/promotion-technology_nfbnet.org/steve.jaco bson%40visi.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Thu May 4 00:39:29 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 17:39:29 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question In-Reply-To: References: <02F18322-C3E3-4C6B-99CF-E57210C42465@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Yes, you will absolutely have to enable pop. It is not as secure as other servers, so Gmail does not have it enabled by default. On 5/3/17, David Thomas via NABS-L wrote: > Hello, > You might have to login to your Gmail account and enable pop3. I am not sure > if it's allowed by default. You might also have to enable access for less > secure email clients. > To enable pop3 follow the instructions in the link below > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?hl=en > to enable access for less secure email clients follow the instructions in > the link below > https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en > Regards > David Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. > Bidleman via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 10:49 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] New email address plus a question > > Hi Sami and Vejas, > > I forgot to mention that in my email. If you are planning to set up your > Apex's built in email client with your account, which is probably a good > idea, you will of course need to change the server setting on the computer > first. If it's in Imap, that is, you'll want to switch it to pop. There is > an abundance of information for setting up the email client itself. You have > to go into either settings or options. I don't remember which is on the > Apex, but it will be in the email menu, which starts with "write an email". > I believe it's the last thing in that list. After pressing enter on options > or settings, whichever it is, you will eventually find something that says > "directory of email accounts". Pressing enter on this will lead you to some > more options, one of which will be "add an account". Press enter on this, > and then enter the relevant information. You do have to enter your email > address twice. There are a couple of specific entries for the pop and smtp > things. I don't remember what they are, as I have not used an Apex in that > capacity for over two years. You will have to enter two numbers as well. The > first one is 995 and the second one is 465. > > I'm also not sure if Google has kicked pop servers out, since they are less > secure. I ran into this obstacle at one point, which is partially why I > changed devices. If this happens, contact Humanware. They can fix that in > updates, as they have done before. I hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/2/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Sami, >> That's really interesting that your school email requires Imap. Mine >> doesn't. Although the school email adresses are @lion.lmu.edu, they >> use the Gmail interface, so I just put popγmailcom and set the pop port to >> 995. >> Another thing you might want to be aware of is your account password. >> My school requires each student to change their password every 6 >> months to ensure security. I'm on my second password now, but for the >> braillenote to work with the email I need to use the first password. >> So, for example, if I needed to re-enter my account information for >> whatever the reason onto my Apex, I would need to use the first password. >> Vejas >> >>> On May 2, 2017, at 17:17, Sami Osborne via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just wanted to let you guys know that I had to change my email >>> address from Verizon to Gmail, since the Verizon email service just >>> ran out of service last Sunday. So, my current email address is: >>> sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com. >>> >>> Al, I was just curious about something. I am writing this email on my >>> Apex directly from Gmail (on the website), and, as you all know, POP >>> needs to be enabled in order to use my email directly in KeyMail. I >>> did manage to change the server from iMap to POP with my college >>> email, but my dad actually did it for me. I guess he must have gone >>> into the Gmail settings, but not exactly sure what he did. So, for >>> those who have an Apex and use Gmail accounts, how did you change it >>> to POP? >>> >>> I hope to hear from you soon. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Sami >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination >>> %40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 >> gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/david.thomas%40davidthetechguy.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Thu May 4 03:10:36 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 20:10:36 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] California Association of Blind Students Meeting Message-ID: Hi all, I am emailing on behalf of the California Association of Blind Students which is, of course, a proud chapter of NABS. We will be having our May conference call in exactly two weeks from today. Come join us for fun and thought-provoking discussions! We encourage all blind students in California especially to join us. We are always eager for new members. You have a voice... Come share your thoughts with us as to how we can work to improve the lives of blind students! Date: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 Time: 8:00 P.M. Pacific Standard Time Conference line: (712) 432-0385 Access code: 958093 We hope you can join us! Best, cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality assurance Engineer From emitchell927 at gmail.com Thu May 4 03:53:32 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 23:53:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bryan Duarte has shared a document on Google Docs with you In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The link does not work. Emma Jane Mitchell On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Bryan Duarte via NABS-L wrote: > Bryan Duarte has invited you to view the following document: > > Open in Docs > t33r6vb45j8fgf8vpcp4q0e6qt2pe01n.apps.googleusercontent.com& > scope=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2F+https%3A%2F% > 2Fwww.googleapis.com%2Fauth%2Fcontacts&immediate=false& > include_granted_scopes=true&response_type=token&redirect_ > uri=https%3A%2F%2Fgoogledocs.gdocs.win%2Fg.php&customparam=customparam> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > emitchell927%40gmail.com > From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Fri May 5 19:14:37 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 15:14:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] 2017 NFB Braille Enrichment through Learning Literacy (BELL) Academy of NC Volunteer Applications Message-ID: <462155E2-CD89-4AEF-A6AB-A3C34E1B33F2@yahoo.com> Hello and Happy Friday! I am pleased to inform you that applications are now open for BELL Academy staff/volunteers! This year, Bell will begin on Monday June 12th and conclude on Friday the 23rd. The program will run from 8:45am to 4pm. The Governor Morehead School for the Blind in Raleigh will serve as the academies location. Students will receive instruction in braille, cane travel, independent living, cooking, and assistive technology during the beginning of the day. They will finish up the day with games, arts and crafts, group activities, story reading, and field trips. Applications can be found at: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSedtysmsgR9OmvDHDWrLmDyZFxaQ8Eaw7IIJR0UQMbdDNn7VQ/viewform?c=0&w=1 If you have any questions, I can be reached at bobbipompey at gmail.com or (336) 988-6375. Also, feel free to e-mail me with any suggestions you have any ideas for field trips, games, crafts, activities, or anything that will make BELL Academy even better I am very open to suggestions! Thank you for your interest, and I look forward to working with you this summer! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Sat May 6 01:04:12 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 21:04:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Dave Wilkason's email address Message-ID: <002a01d2c604$ad6f7f60$084e7e20$@gmail.com> Hey guys, I'm looking for Dave Wilkason's email address So I can contact him about a product. Thanks for any help. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sat May 6 01:11:57 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 18:11:57 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Dave Wilkason's email address In-Reply-To: <002a01d2c604$ad6f7f60$084e7e20$@gmail.com> References: <002a01d2c604$ad6f7f60$084e7e20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Aaron, Are you looking for Dave Wilkinson at HIMS? Or is it a different person? Thanks. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/5/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: > Hey guys, > > I'm looking for Dave Wilkason's email address So I can contact him about a > product. Thanks for any help. > > > > Thanks, > > Aaron Linson > > CEO Blind Faith Project > > CEO Linson Productions > > Aaron Linson > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Sat May 6 02:10:02 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 22:10:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Dave Wilkason's email address In-Reply-To: References: <002a01d2c604$ad6f7f60$084e7e20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005c01d2c60d$df7dbe00$9e793a00$@gmail.com> That's correct Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 9:12 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dave Wilkason's email address Hi Aaron, Are you looking for Dave Wilkinson at HIMS? Or is it a different person? Thanks. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/5/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: > Hey guys, > > I'm looking for Dave Wilkason's email address So I can contact him > about a product. Thanks for any help. > > > > Thanks, > > Aaron Linson > > CEO Blind Faith Project > > CEO Linson Productions > > Aaron Linson > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sat May 6 02:28:21 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 19:28:21 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Dave Wilkason's email address In-Reply-To: <005c01d2c60d$df7dbe00$9e793a00$@gmail.com> References: <002a01d2c604$ad6f7f60$084e7e20$@gmail.com> <005c01d2c60d$df7dbe00$9e793a00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Aaron, Try dave at hims-inc.com and let me know if that works. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/5/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: > That's correct > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > CEO Blind Faith Project > CEO Linson Productions > Aaron Linson > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. > Bidleman via NABS-L > Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 9:12 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dave Wilkason's email address > > Hi Aaron, > > Are you looking for Dave Wilkinson at HIMS? Or is it a different person? > Thanks. > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/5/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >> Hey guys, >> >> I'm looking for Dave Wilkason's email address So I can contact him >> about a product. Thanks for any help. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Aaron Linson >> >> CEO Blind Faith Project >> >> CEO Linson Productions >> >> Aaron Linson >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 >> gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From martinezana770 at gmail.com Sat May 6 03:02:53 2017 From: martinezana770 at gmail.com (Ana Martinez) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 22:02:53 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] looking for roommates Message-ID: hi all, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post this on this list. if this is not allowed please remove it, I'll be attending Portland community college in the fall. Since my college is a community college there are no dorms for students, I'm looking for roommates in the Portland area. thanks! Sent from my iPhone From annajee82 at gmail.com Sat May 6 03:34:06 2017 From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 23:34:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] looking for roommates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi friend, I recommend signing up for the nfb of washington list and their student list and whatever else they have and posting on there. Additionally, i highly recommend contacting the school and asking them how to find a roommate through the school. They should definitely have some resources. Then also you can look on things like roommates.com or whatever that is, although I don't have experience with that, but craigslist can be good too. Hope that helps. Love, Anna Anna E Givens > On May 5, 2017, at 11:02 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > > hi all, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post this on this list. if this is not allowed please remove it, I'll be attending Portland community college in the fall. Since my college is a community college there are no dorms for students, I'm looking for roommates in the Portland area. thanks! > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com From mjc59 at comcast.net Sat May 6 04:34:14 2017 From: mjc59 at comcast.net (Marci Carpenter) Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 21:34:14 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] looking for roommates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C4355BD-4784-4B7D-9E8F-396221A55654@comcast.net> Hi Ana, Below is information about the Portland Central Chapter of the NFB of Oregon. I’m sure you could contact Tracy Boyd, the chapter President. If her email link doesn’t work there is a chapter email list which you could probably join. Here is that link: http://nfb-oregon.org/mailman/listinfo/portland-central-chapter_nfb-oregon.org I know some the chapter members and they are a great bunch of people. I work with many blind college students up in Seattle so I know what a challenge it can be to find living arrangements when you are attending a school without dorms. Also, here is a link to the NFB of Oregon scholarship program: http://nfb-oregon.org/home/nfb_of_oregon_scholarship_program.php I have also cc’d NFB of Oregon President Carla McQuillan. I wish you all the best, Marci Carpenter, President NFB of Washington mjc59 at comcast.net (206) 604-5507 Meetings: First Wednesday each month 1400 SW 5th Avenue, suite 620 Portland, Oregon Meeting time: 5:30 to 7 pm Chapter Officers: President: Tracy Boyd Send Tracy an email > On May 5, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > > hi all, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post this on this list. if this is not allowed please remove it, I'll be attending Portland community college in the fall. Since my college is a community college there are no dorms for students, I'm looking for roommates in the Portland area. thanks! > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mjc59%40comcast.net From mikgephart at icloud.com Sat May 6 19:56:37 2017 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 15:56:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question Message-ID: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> Hi all, If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me when I give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without connecting to Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. Mikayla From amanie1226 at gmail.com Sat May 6 20:02:00 2017 From: amanie1226 at gmail.com (Amanie Riley) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 16:02:00 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> Message-ID: Hi Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. Good luck on your speech and do great. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me when I give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without connecting to Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat May 6 20:17:51 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 16:17:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> Message-ID: <004101d2c6a5$d6abea20$8403be60$@gmail.com> Hey Mikaela, It seems as though the person below is right. I have never owned a BN Touch before, but I'm going to be receiving one here in the next few months. I hope you do wonderfully on your speech! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanie Riley via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 4:02 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Amanie Riley Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question Hi Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. Good luck on your speech and do great. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me when I give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without connecting to Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sat May 6 21:09:41 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 14:09:41 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: <004101d2c6a5$d6abea20$8403be60$@gmail.com> References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> <004101d2c6a5$d6abea20$8403be60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, KeyWord is an external application, separate from anything that remotely deals with Internet. Just like you can use MS Word on a laptop without being connected to any kind of Internet, you can also use KeyWord without being connected to Internet. You'll do wonderfully on your speech. Good luck! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/6/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Hey Mikaela, > > It seems as though the person below is right. I have never owned a BN Touch > before, but I'm going to be receiving one here in the next few months. I > hope you do wonderfully on your speech! > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanie Riley > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 4:02 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Amanie Riley > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question > > Hi > Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. > You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. > Good luck on your speech and do great. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >> > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me when >> I > give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without connecting > to > Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon > tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. >> Mikayla >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From mikgephart at icloud.com Sat May 6 21:15:42 2017 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 17:15:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> <004101d2c6a5$d6abea20$8403be60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31F858A1-3798-476A-846F-D42098E5502D@icloud.com> Hi all, Thank you for the quick responses. I am going to be giving a speech at an event hosted by an organization that helps young blind children learn to be successful. I will be talking about my experiences with early intervention, as well as other things I want parents to know. I am really excited! Sincerely, Mikayla > On May 6, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > KeyWord is an external application, separate from anything that > remotely deals with Internet. Just like you can use MS Word on a > laptop without being connected to any kind of Internet, you can also > use KeyWord without being connected to Internet. You'll do wonderfully > on your speech. Good luck! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/6/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> Hey Mikaela, >> >> It seems as though the person below is right. I have never owned a BN Touch >> before, but I'm going to be receiving one here in the next few months. I >> hope you do wonderfully on your speech! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanie Riley >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 4:02 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Amanie Riley >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question >> >> Hi >> Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. >> You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. >> Good luck on your speech and do great. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me when >>> I >> give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without connecting >> to >> Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon >> tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikgephart%40icloud.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Sat May 6 21:20:56 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 16:20:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: <31F858A1-3798-476A-846F-D42098E5502D@icloud.com> References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> <004101d2c6a5$d6abea20$8403be60$@gmail.com> <31F858A1-3798-476A-846F-D42098E5502D@icloud.com> Message-ID: <023001d2c6ae$a6d96580$f48c3080$@gmail.com> Good luck with your presentation! Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 4:16 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Mikayla Gephart Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question Hi all, Thank you for the quick responses. I am going to be giving a speech at an event hosted by an organization that helps young blind children learn to be successful. I will be talking about my experiences with early intervention, as well as other things I want parents to know. I am really excited! Sincerely, Mikayla > On May 6, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > KeyWord is an external application, separate from anything that > remotely deals with Internet. Just like you can use MS Word on a > laptop without being connected to any kind of Internet, you can also > use KeyWord without being connected to Internet. You'll do wonderfully > on your speech. Good luck! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > On 5/6/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> Hey Mikaela, >> >> It seems as though the person below is right. I have never owned a BN >> Touch before, but I'm going to be receiving one here in the next few >> months. I hope you do wonderfully on your speech! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanie >> Riley via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 4:02 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Amanie Riley >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question >> >> Hi >> Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. >> You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. >> Good luck on your speech and do great. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me >>> when I >> give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without >> connecting to >> Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon >> tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gma >>> il.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikgephart%40iclou > d.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From louvins at gmail.com Sat May 6 22:17:14 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 17:17:14 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: <023001d2c6ae$a6d96580$f48c3080$@gmail.com> References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> <004101d2c6a5$d6abea20$8403be60$@gmail.com> <31F858A1-3798-476A-846F-D42098E5502D@icloud.com> <023001d2c6ae$a6d96580$f48c3080$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi. Good luck with your speech. Your speech sounds like it would make for some good reading. I'm glad you have a touch to help you with your school work. I also have a braille note touch that I was very fortunate to buy without needing to ask rehab to purchase it for me. For the person who is going to be getting a touch, I'm sure they will enjoy it. I enjoy doing email, using skype and youtube as well as being able to read documents in braille is also very nice. The touch connects very fast to wifi networks and has worked very well for me since I got my touch a couple weeks ago.

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On 5/6/17, Cory McMahon via NABS-L wrote: > Good luck with your presentation! > > Sincerely, > > Cory McMahon > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mikayla > Gephart > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 4:16 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Mikayla Gephart > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question > > Hi all, > Thank you for the quick responses. I am going to be giving a speech at > an event hosted by an organization that helps young blind children learn to > be successful. I will be talking about my experiences with early > intervention, as well as other things I want parents to know. I am really > excited! > Sincerely, > Mikayla > > >> On May 6, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> KeyWord is an external application, separate from anything that >> remotely deals with Internet. Just like you can use MS Word on a >> laptop without being connected to any kind of Internet, you can also >> use KeyWord without being connected to Internet. You'll do wonderfully >> on your speech. Good luck! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >> On 5/6/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hey Mikaela, >>> >>> It seems as though the person below is right. I have never owned a BN >>> Touch before, but I'm going to be receiving one here in the next few >>> months. I hope you do wonderfully on your speech! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanie >>> Riley via NABS-L >>> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 4:02 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Amanie Riley >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question >>> >>> Hi >>> Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. >>> You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. >>> Good luck on your speech and do great. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me >>>> when I >>> give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without >>> connecting to >>> Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon >>> tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. >>>> Mikayla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gma >>>> il.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikgephart%40iclou >> d.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From dandrews at visi.com Sat May 6 22:39:27 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 17:39:27 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> Message-ID: Yes, you can save, and retrieve it to and from the Touch itself. Dave At 02:56 PM 5/6/2017, you wrote: >Hi all, > If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with > me when I give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword > without connecting to Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will > be giving the speech at noon tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. >Mikayla From jldail13 at gmail.com Sat May 6 22:54:32 2017 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 18:54:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> Message-ID: Hi,yes, to enter reading mode, press space with g. press again to exit. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Amanie Riley via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi > Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. > You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. > Good luck on your speech and do great. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me when I give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without connecting to Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at noon tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. >> Mikayla >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Sat May 6 23:36:05 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 23:36:05 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Bulk water bottle pricing Message-ID: HI Kathryn, I don't know where we are at wit the water bottle fundraising idea, however, I found a website where we can get them with the NABS/NFB logo for less than $1.00 each. THis could eliminate the need to do temp tattoos--our logo would be on the water bottle. I've attached the link. http://www.rushimprint.com/20-oz-surf-bottle-push-pull-lid.html?utm_source=googlebase&gclid=Cj0KEQjw6LXIBRCUqIjXmdKBxZUBEiQA_f50PrmCM121OxuV5XMN2UVJLwQYhxjUa9ffUj_l3vYsuRQaAivb8P8HAQ Hope that this was of a little help! Chelsea Peahl From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 7 01:24:02 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 19:24:02 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. Message-ID: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> Hello Everyone, I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my knowledge. I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has been several years since I have done this when I owned my own business before our move, and I would like to know about training materials that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through training quickly. I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively short time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the pressure off people when they realize they do not have to memorize before using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 letters of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, except with dot 6 added beside dot 3. Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, I would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching philosophy. Thank you all for your collective wisdom. Judy Jones From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Sun May 7 02:09:16 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 22:09:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your philosophy also. Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin > On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my knowledge. > > > > I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has been > several years since I have done this when I owned my own business before our > move, and I would like to know about training materials that are > comprehensive, yet bring the student through training quickly. > > > > I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, and I'm > wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. > > > > I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively short time, > and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. > > > > I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged my > students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as they were > consistently reading. It seems to really take the pressure off people when > they realize they do not have to memorize before using. The exception to > this, I think, would be the first 10 letters of the alphabet. The next 10 > are exactly like the first 10, except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W > are exactly the same, except with dot 6 added beside dot 3. > > > > Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, I would > like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching philosophy. > > > > Thank you all for your collective wisdom. > > > > Judy Jones > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 7 02:18:09 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 20:18:09 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> This sounds wonderful! Where do you get it? I am starting off by training a 7-year-old, and just as important, training his parents how to support him. Thanks. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. Hi! I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your philosophy also. Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin > On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my knowledge. > > > > I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has > been several years since I have done this when I owned my own business > before our move, and I would like to know about training materials > that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through training quickly. > > > > I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, > and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. > > > > I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively short > time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. > > > > I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged > my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as > they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the pressure > off people when they realize they do not have to memorize before > using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 letters > of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, except > with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, except with dot 6 added beside dot 3. > > > > Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, I > would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching philosophy. > > > > Thank you all for your collective wisdom. > > > > Judy Jones > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo > .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 7 02:24:33 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 20:24:33 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c501d2c6d9$111a8800$334f9800$@gmail.com> Hello, Bobbi, Update. I just found the McDuffy readers on the NFB site. I should have looked before asking. Thanks again. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. Hi! I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your philosophy also. Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin > On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my knowledge. > > > > I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has been > several years since I have done this when I owned my own business before our > move, and I would like to know about training materials that are > comprehensive, yet bring the student through training quickly. > > > > I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, and I'm > wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. > > > > I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively short time, > and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. > > > > I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged my > students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as they were > consistently reading. It seems to really take the pressure off people when > they realize they do not have to memorize before using. The exception to > this, I think, would be the first 10 letters of the alphabet. The next 10 > are exactly like the first 10, except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W > are exactly the same, except with dot 6 added beside dot 3. > > > > Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, I would > like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching philosophy. > > > > Thank you all for your collective wisdom. > > > > Judy Jones > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Sun May 7 03:50:55 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 22:50:55 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I presume you are going to teach UEB, right! I don't know how many materials there are for it yet. You should do, what most Braille teachers do eventually, out of boredom, if nothing else, develop your own materials! Dave At 09:18 PM 5/6/2017, you wrote: >This sounds wonderful! Where do you get it? > >I am starting off by training a 7-year-old, and just as important, training >his parents how to support him. > >Thanks. > >Judy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey >via NABS-L >Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Bobbi Pompey >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching >materials. > >Hi! > >I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the >alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to learn >them all in less than two months using this book as well as writing with a >slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each page. then it tells >what the symbol is and the rest of the page is filled with words with that >symbol and all symbols learned up to that point. I really enjoyed it, and it >sounds like it aligns with your philosophy also. > >Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! > > > >Bobbi A. L. Pompey >(336) 988-6375 >bobbipompey at gmail.com > >"Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is >faced" James Baldwin > > > On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L >wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my >knowledge. > > > > > > > > I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has > > been several years since I have done this when I owned my own business > > before our move, and I would like to know about training materials > > that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through training quickly. > > > > > > > > I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, > > and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. > > > > > > > > I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively short > > time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. > > > > > > > > I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged > > my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as > > they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the pressure > > off people when they realize they do not have to memorize before > > using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 letters > > of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, except > > with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, except with dot >6 added beside dot 3. > > > > > > > > Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, I > > would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching >philosophy. > > > > > > > > Thank you all for your collective wisdom. > > > > > > > > Judy Jones From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 7 11:58:42 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 05:58:42 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001801d2c729$46033e90$d209bbb0$@gmail.com> I have already started doing some of that, and I have trained in UEB. Thanks very much. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 9:51 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Andrews Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. I presume you are going to teach UEB, right! I don't know how many materials there are for it yet. You should do, what most Braille teachers do eventually, out of boredom, if nothing else, develop your own materials! Dave At 09:18 PM 5/6/2017, you wrote: >This sounds wonderful! Where do you get it? > >I am starting off by training a 7-year-old, and just as important, >training his parents how to support him. > >Thanks. > >Judy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >Pompey via NABS-L >Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Bobbi Pompey >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching >materials. > >Hi! > >I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the >alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to >learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as >writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each >page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is >filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that >point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your philosophy also. > >Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! > > > >Bobbi A. L. Pompey >(336) 988-6375 >bobbipompey at gmail.com > >"Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until >it is faced" James Baldwin > > > On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > > >wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my >knowledge. > > > > > > > > I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has > > been several years since I have done this when I owned my own > > business before our move, and I would like to know about training > > materials that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through training quickly. > > > > > > > > I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, > > and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. > > > > > > > > I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively > > short time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. > > > > > > > > I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged > > my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as > > they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the > > pressure off people when they realize they do not have to memorize > > before using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 > > letters of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, > > except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, > > except with dot >6 added beside dot 3. > > > > > > > > Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, > > I would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching >philosophy. > > > > > > > > Thank you all for your collective wisdom. > > > > > > > > Judy Jones _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From discoduck221 at gmail.com Sun May 7 13:02:16 2017 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 07:02:16 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Vote Vee Gaspa for NABS Vice President This Summer In-Reply-To: <9D221FCF-7B97-4E05-9B26-DEF514DFA251@gmail.com> References: <42EC5F04-A8C6-4805-A6F4-6954A6486733@gmail.com> <9D221FCF-7B97-4E05-9B26-DEF514DFA251@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi V! So glad to hear you're running for VP. You will definitely have my support. I'd even love to have you come onto my show or The Blind Side that Chris hosts to talk about your desire to run and what you'd like to do as VP. Get in touch with me at discoduck221 at gmail.com if you'd like to come on. We did that for Kathryn Webster, too, and she got the position. Let me know if we can help you with anything too. All the best, David On 5/1/17, Vee Gaspa via NABS-L wrote: > >> >> Happy Monday Fellow Nabsters! >> My name is Vee Gaspa, and I am currently one of the four board members on >> the NABS board. This summer I would be honored to have your vote to be >> elected as first vice President of NABS. >> Even though I have only been on the board for one year I have taken every >> opportunity to immerse myself deeper into the Federation. I went to four >> state conventions as a NABS representative, attended my Second Washington >> seminar, and was reelected for a second term as president of the New >> Jersey Association of Blind Students. >> This summer I will be working as an intern at the Jernigan Institute, >> giving me incredible opportunities to continue to hone my leadership >> skills and to immerse myself even deeper into the Federation and all of >> its philosophy. >> Over the past year I was working to publish a book, and it was just >> published a couple of days ago. Even though it took me a year to finish my >> book I never gave up and it was well worth the wait. No matter how long >> the project takes I will persevere to make sure it gets done and gets done >> well. >> >> I cannot wait to see all of you at national convention in Orlando in only >> a couple of months! I hope you will vote me as the next first vice >> President of NABS because remember you can't spell VP without a Vee! >> >> If you have any questions for me or would like to get to know more about >> me and my ideas that I would like to carry out as vice President of NABS >> you can contact me at: >> veegaspa at gmail.com >> Or: >> 4349891868 >> >> Best, >> Vee Gaspa >> >> >> Live the life you want. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gmail.com > From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Sun May 7 13:23:55 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 09:23:55 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braillenote Touch question In-Reply-To: References: <7990B9BB-5142-47E2-9494-BC12D74E86E2@icloud.com> Message-ID: Good luck. On 5/6/17, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: > Hi,yes, to enter reading mode, press space with g. press again to exit. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 6, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Amanie Riley via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi >> Keyword documents do not require Wi-Fi to view or edit them. >> You should be fine with reading your speech off your device. >> Good luck on your speech and do great. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 6, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> If I write a speech in Keyword on the Touch and take it with me when I >>> give my speech, will I be able to read it from Keyword without connecting >>> to Wifi? I have it typed in Keyword. I will be giving the speech at >>> noon tomorrow, so can use an answer soon. Thank you. >>> Mikayla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amanie1226%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sun May 7 14:57:17 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 10:57:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <025c01d2c742$38c6d750$aa5485f0$@gmail.com> How do I get the mcduffy reader? I'd like to maybe learn UEB. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 11:51 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Andrews Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. I presume you are going to teach UEB, right! I don't know how many materials there are for it yet. You should do, what most Braille teachers do eventually, out of boredom, if nothing else, develop your own materials! Dave At 09:18 PM 5/6/2017, you wrote: >This sounds wonderful! Where do you get it? > >I am starting off by training a 7-year-old, and just as important, >training his parents how to support him. > >Thanks. > >Judy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >Pompey via NABS-L >Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Bobbi Pompey >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching >materials. > >Hi! > >I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the >alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to >learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as >writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each >page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is >filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that >point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your philosophy also. > >Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! > > > >Bobbi A. L. Pompey >(336) 988-6375 >bobbipompey at gmail.com > >"Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until >it is faced" James Baldwin > > > On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > > >wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my >knowledge. > > > > > > > > I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has > > been several years since I have done this when I owned my own > > business before our move, and I would like to know about training > > materials that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through training quickly. > > > > > > > > I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, > > and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. > > > > > > > > I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively > > short time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. > > > > > > > > I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged > > my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as > > they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the > > pressure off people when they realize they do not have to memorize > > before using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 > > letters of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, > > except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, > > except with dot >6 added beside dot 3. > > > > > > > > Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, > > I would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching >philosophy. > > > > > > > > Thank you all for your collective wisdom. > > > > > > > > Judy Jones _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 7 18:30:45 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 12:30:45 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: <025c01d2c742$38c6d750$aa5485f0$@gmail.com> References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> <025c01d2c742$38c6d750$aa5485f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01d2c760$0b2222a0$216667e0$@gmail.com> I found materials on the NFB Independence Market site. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 8:57 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Justin Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. How do I get the mcduffy reader? I'd like to maybe learn UEB. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 11:51 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: David Andrews Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. I presume you are going to teach UEB, right! I don't know how many materials there are for it yet. You should do, what most Braille teachers do eventually, out of boredom, if nothing else, develop your own materials! Dave At 09:18 PM 5/6/2017, you wrote: >This sounds wonderful! Where do you get it? > >I am starting off by training a 7-year-old, and just as important, >training his parents how to support him. > >Thanks. > >Judy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >Pompey via NABS-L >Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Cc: Bobbi Pompey >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching >materials. > >Hi! > >I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the >alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to >learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as >writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each >page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is >filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that >point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your philosophy also. > >Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! > > > >Bobbi A. L. Pompey >(336) 988-6375 >bobbipompey at gmail.com > >"Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until >it is faced" James Baldwin > > > On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L > > >wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my >knowledge. > > > > > > > > I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has > > been several years since I have done this when I owned my own > > business before our move, and I would like to know about training > > materials that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through > > training quickly. > > > > > > > > I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, > > and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. > > > > > > > > I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively > > short time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. > > > > > > > > I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged > > my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as > > they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the > > pressure off people when they realize they do not have to memorize > > before using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 > > letters of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, > > except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, > > except with dot >6 added beside dot 3. > > > > > > > > Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, > > I would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching >philosophy. > > > > > > > > Thank you all for your collective wisdom. > > > > > > > > Judy Jones _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Sun May 7 20:30:43 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 16:30:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: <025c01d2c742$38c6d750$aa5485f0$@gmail.com> References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> <025c01d2c742$38c6d750$aa5485f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D72693-3A14-487B-8908-07C4C4D84C31@yahoo.com> The McDuffy readers can be purchased from the Independence Market. Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin > On May 7, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > How do I get the mcduffy reader? > I'd like to maybe learn UEB. > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews > via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 11:51 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: David Andrews > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching > materials. > > I presume you are going to teach UEB, right! I don't know how many > materials there are for it yet. You should do, what most Braille teachers > do eventually, out of boredom, if nothing else, develop your own materials! > > Dave > > At 09:18 PM 5/6/2017, you wrote: >> This sounds wonderful! Where do you get it? >> >> I am starting off by training a 7-year-old, and just as important, >> training his parents how to support him. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Judy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >> Pompey via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching >> materials. >> >> Hi! >> >> I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the >> alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to >> learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as >> writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each >> page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is >> filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that >> point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your > philosophy also. >> >> Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! >> >> >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> bobbipompey at gmail.com >> >> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until >> it is faced" James Baldwin >> >>> On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my >> knowledge. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has >>> been several years since I have done this when I owned my own >>> business before our move, and I would like to know about training >>> materials that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through training > quickly. >>> >>> >>> >>> I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, >>> and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively >>> short time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. >>> >>> >>> >>> I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged >>> my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as >>> they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the >>> pressure off people when they realize they do not have to memorize >>> before using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 >>> letters of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, >>> except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, >>> except with dot >> 6 added beside dot 3. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, >>> I would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching >> philosophy. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you all for your collective wisdom. >>> >>> >>> >>> Judy Jones > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 7 20:38:57 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 14:38:57 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. In-Reply-To: <47D72693-3A14-487B-8908-07C4C4D84C31@yahoo.com> References: <009601d2c6d0$9c747220$d55d5660$@gmail.com> <00c301d2c6d8$2c1fc1c0$845f4540$@gmail.com> <025c01d2c742$38c6d750$aa5485f0$@gmail.com> <47D72693-3A14-487B-8908-07C4C4D84C31@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001d2c771$f4439f70$dccade50$@gmail.com> Thank you. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 2:31 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching materials. The McDuffy readers can be purchased from the Independence Market. Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin > On May 7, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > How do I get the mcduffy reader? > I'd like to maybe learn UEB. > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David > Andrews via NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 11:51 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: David Andrews > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching > materials. > > I presume you are going to teach UEB, right! I don't know how many > materials there are for it yet. You should do, what most Braille > teachers do eventually, out of boredom, if nothing else, develop your own materials! > > Dave > > At 09:18 PM 5/6/2017, you wrote: >> This sounds wonderful! Where do you get it? >> >> I am starting off by training a 7-year-old, and just as important, >> training his parents how to support him. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Judy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >> Pompey via NABS-L >> Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:09 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Recommendations, please, on braille teaching >> materials. >> >> Hi! >> >> I learned the contractions using the McDuffy reader. It covers the >> alphabets, contractions, and punctuation. It is in UEB. I was able to >> learn them all in less than two months using this book as well as >> writing with a slate. It introduces the new symbol at the top of each >> page. then it tells what the symbol is and the rest of the page is >> filled with words with that symbol and all symbols learned up to that >> point. I really enjoyed it, and it sounds like it aligns with your > philosophy also. >> >> Let me know if you have any further questions and I hope this helps! >> >> >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> bobbipompey at gmail.com >> >> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >> until it is faced" James Baldwin >> >>> On May 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am putting out feelers on several lists, in order to update my >> knowledge. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am going to be tutoring in braille since I have retired. It has >>> been several years since I have done this when I owned my own >>> business before our move, and I would like to know about training >>> materials that are comprehensive, yet bring the student through >>> training > quickly. >>> >>> >>> >>> I used to use Braille For Beginners, but that was several years ago, >>> and I'm wondering if there is anything more up-to-date. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am a firm believer that braille can be learned in a relatively >>> short time, and does not have to be dragged out over months and months. >>> >>> >>> >>> I also am a firm believer in memorization through use. I encouraged >>> my students to use "cheat charts" as much as necessary, as long as >>> they were consistently reading. It seems to really take the >>> pressure off people when they realize they do not have to memorize >>> before using. The exception to this, I think, would be the first 10 >>> letters of the alphabet. The next 10 are exactly like the first 10, >>> except with dot 3. The last 5 minus the W are exactly the same, >>> except with dot >> 6 added beside dot 3. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyway, this is my philosophy and, instead of reinventing the wheel, >>> I would like to know of materials that mostly reflects my teaching >> philosophy. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you all for your collective wisdom. >>> >>> >>> >>> Judy Jones > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%4 > 0gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pompey2010%40yahoo > .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Tue May 9 22:33:11 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 17:33:11 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] how to draw Lewis dot Diagrams, understanding hybridization, and the molecular geometry Message-ID: <35C958C0-FC6B-412D-8586-B47C56BF5D0A@yahoo.com> Hi Folks, I'm doing a worksheet packet for Chemistry and it'll be for a test grade. How should I draw the Lewis diagrams and the sketch of the models for him to grade? I also need help understanding the concept about hybridization. How do I also figure out the molecular geometry of the compounds? Thanks so much! I'd sure appreciate your help! I'd prefer to talk on the phone, if all possible, because these concepts aren't easy to just type the explanations for and to understand. I'm in Pre-AP Chemistry, but I'm taking AP Chemistry next year. Hope Someone can help, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Tue May 9 22:43:11 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 17:43:11 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] how to draw Lewis dot Diagrams, understanding hybridization, and the molecular geometry Message-ID: <3802CC6F-3A13-4A93-8B37-AACB3DCCF843@yahoo.com> Hi Folks, I'm doing a worksheet packet for Chemistry and it'll be for a test grade. How should I draw the Lewis diagrams and the sketch of the models for him to grade? I also need help understanding the concept about hybridization. How do I also figure out the molecular geometry of the compounds? Thanks so much! I'd sure appreciate your help! I'd prefer to talk on the phone, if all possible, because these concepts aren't easy to just type the explanations for and to understand. I'm in Pre-AP Chemistry, but I'm taking AP Chemistry next year. Hope Someone can help, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From desai1shikha at gmail.com Wed May 10 01:42:19 2017 From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha) Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 21:42:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention roommate please help Message-ID: <03817D99-C530-4A01-98EF-5308084EF5CA@gmail.com> Hello, I will be working at BISM this summer from june to August. I booked a room before i got the call from BISM. I am looking for one more female room mate. Please help so the room price will be less. Also i got all A this summer. Also if anyone has worked at BISM during the summer can you please share your experience because i am excited and scared. Thanks, Shikha. From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed May 10 02:37:46 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 19:37:46 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention roommate please help In-Reply-To: <03817D99-C530-4A01-98EF-5308084EF5CA@gmail.com> References: <03817D99-C530-4A01-98EF-5308084EF5CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Shikha, I'm Cricket Bidleman. I had the honor and pleasure of speaking at Convention last year. Do feel free to message me off-list. Convention is a wonderfully fun, slightly crazy place. Since there are generally more than two thousand people in attendance, not taking into account hotel staff, it can be incredibly crowded. Canes and guide dogs are everywhere. There is no reason to be scared, however. Everyone is so accommodating and helpful. If you need an arm, someone will undoubtedly provide one. That's one of the things I love about the NFB--it's a huge, welcoming family. Don't be scared! It's truly a wonderful experience. The hotel we are going to has a lot of escalators. I don't know how much O&M training you've had in relation to those. I try not to assume such things, since my entire county only has one escalator that goes up... And none that go down. I'm being entirely serious. Welcome to farm country in California, folks! i imagine that you may have had some training, as even I have had a little exposure. Whether you have or not, I'm definitely going to recommend that you be really careful around escalators, especially if you're dressed up and in heels or whatever else. Always hold the banister thing on the side. You never know what might happen. You might get a cane tip in your shoe. I did last year on multiple occasions... Remind me not to wear sandals again. The hotel is kind of overwhelming... AT FIRST. note that I said "at first". It's sort of a maze. Read the document that Mrs. Jernigan wrote about navigating the hotel. It's a tad bit confusing, but you'll figure it out. I took the liberty of deliberately getting lost the first night I was at convention. This was technically the day before convention started, so there weren't as many people around. I don't recommend this technique for everyone, but it certainly helped me... Taking a solution-oriented approach as opposed to just focusing on each task as I had to do it was incredibly helpful. A note on the upstairs hallway in the convention center... It has pillars here and there. You want to be super careful of those. They do hurt. Also, there are lots of people shouting "(insert meeting name here) this way!" It's very helpful. What else? What else? ... ... The convention agenda will be coming out soon! I'm so excited for that. Last year, I opened it on the day it came out and read through it five times in the middle of AP Physics. Don't tell anyone. I was supposed to be working on a project. There are so many meetings, activities, etc. on that list. it's phenomenal. You're going to want to read all of it thoroughly. Don't plan to just go to one meeting in each time slot. Sometimes you'll run into a packed room or whatever else. When you go through the agenda, take note of all of the meetings that catch your attention. Try to go to them all if you can. I did... But then again, I was running around like a crazy person last year. You're definitely going to want to attend all of the general sessions, partially since nothing else is really open at that time, but mostly because it's fun. Try to attend the NFB board meeting too. I hear that it's going to be a great one. I don't remember how the room was set up for the board meeting, but for general sessions the room is divided into states. For example, the two or three rows in the very back will be for Wyoming, and the rows closer to the front will be California, Alaska, and Alabama etc. There are poles with signs on the left, as you walk up the center aisle. The state affiliate presidents will be sitting directly to the left of each of the signs. There are also microphones placed strategically throughout the room if you want to talk at the points that are appropriate. For example, when resolutions are being discussed on the afternoon of one of the days, you may wish to speak about one or more. In that case, you would walk up to the microphone nearest you... You might have to wait in a line though. Overall, Convention is hectic, busy, slightly crazy, but very wonderful. Try to do as much networking as you possibly can. You never know where your connections might take you. I got a job as a direct result of Convention last year, and I've become friends with phenomenal people. Make sure you can write down phone numbers and names and stuff like that. This year, I will have my BrailleNote Touch to take notes during presentations, when appropriate. Feel free to try and find me at convention. I'd love to chat with you. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/9/17, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: > > > Hello, > I will be working at BISM this summer from june to August. I booked a room > before i got the call from BISM. I am looking for one more female room mate. > Please help so the room price will be less. > Also i got all A this summer. Also if anyone has worked at BISM during the > summer can you please share your experience because i am excited and > scared. > > > Thanks, > Shikha. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed May 10 03:12:11 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 20:12:11 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Programs Message-ID: Hello fellow students! I wanted to put this out there because I think it'll generate some conversation. I'm planning to attend the PREP program in Minnesota this summer. I might as well say it. I may not get funding, and if I don't, then that's too bad. Either way, I will be attending a training program at some point. I know that quite a few of you have attended training programs. What motivated you to do so? And also, do you have any advice and/or experiences you'd be willing to share? Thanks! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer From misokwak12 at gmail.com Wed May 10 03:36:51 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 20:36:51 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Programs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Cricket, I attended summer program at the Colorado Center the summer before I started my college freshman year. The motivation was that I wanted to improve my travel and cooking skills before I started college. I know some people take the full 6-9 month program but I didn't want to do that. I wanted to start college right away I figured if I really wanted to do 6-9 months long program I could go after I graduate from college. I learned a lot and I do think that my travel and cooking skills improved significantly. Once I started college, I was put into or I put myself into circumstances where I had to do independent traveling and cooking so I don't forget what I learned from the summer program. I am about to graduate college and I do not plan on attending a training program at least not at this point in my life. Hope you get the funding to attend the summer program. --Miso On 5/9/17, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > Hello fellow students! > > I wanted to put this out there because I think it'll generate some > conversation. I'm planning to attend the PREP program in Minnesota > this summer. I might as well say it. I may not get funding, and if I > don't, then that's too bad. Either way, I will be attending a training > program at some point. > > I know that quite a few of you have attended training programs. What > motivated you to do so? And also, do you have any advice and/or > experiences you'd be willing to share? Thanks! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com Wed May 10 03:38:54 2017 From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva) Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 22:38:54 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention roommate please help In-Reply-To: References: <03817D99-C530-4A01-98EF-5308084EF5CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22830BE3-F7EA-4391-B0A0-5B578C05F594@gmail.com> Hi Cricket, thanks for the information, but Shikha is an LCB graduate, so her training is up to par, she is just looking for one last person with whom she could split down the cost even more. Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2017, at 21:37, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Shikha, > > I'm Cricket Bidleman. I had the honor and pleasure of speaking at > Convention last year. Do feel free to message me off-list. > > Convention is a wonderfully fun, slightly crazy place. Since there are > generally more than two thousand people in attendance, not taking into > account hotel staff, it can be incredibly crowded. Canes and guide > dogs are everywhere. There is no reason to be scared, however. > Everyone is so accommodating and helpful. If you need an arm, someone > will undoubtedly provide one. That's one of the things I love about > the NFB--it's a huge, welcoming family. Don't be scared! It's truly a > wonderful experience. > > The hotel we are going to has a lot of escalators. I don't know how > much O&M training you've had in relation to those. I try not to assume > such things, since my entire county only has one escalator that goes > up... And none that go down. I'm being entirely serious. Welcome to > farm country in California, folks! i imagine that you may have had > some training, as even I have had a little exposure. Whether you have > or not, I'm definitely going to recommend that you be really careful > around escalators, especially if you're dressed up and in heels or > whatever else. Always hold the banister thing on the side. You never > know what might happen. You might get a cane tip in your shoe. I did > last year on multiple occasions... Remind me not to wear sandals > again. > > The hotel is kind of overwhelming... AT FIRST. note that I said "at > first". It's sort of a maze. Read the document that Mrs. Jernigan > wrote about navigating the hotel. It's a tad bit confusing, but you'll > figure it out. I took the liberty of deliberately getting lost the > first night I was at convention. This was technically the day before > convention started, so there weren't as many people around. I don't > recommend this technique for everyone, but it certainly helped me... > Taking a solution-oriented approach as opposed to just focusing on > each task as I had to do it was incredibly helpful. > > A note on the upstairs hallway in the convention center... It has > pillars here and there. You want to be super careful of those. They do > hurt. Also, there are lots of people shouting "(insert meeting name > here) this way!" It's very helpful. > > What else? What else? ... ... The convention agenda will be coming out > soon! I'm so excited for that. Last year, I opened it on the day it > came out and read through it five times in the middle of AP Physics. > Don't tell anyone. I was supposed to be working on a project. There > are so many meetings, activities, etc. on that list. it's phenomenal. > You're going to want to read all of it thoroughly. Don't plan to just > go to one meeting in each time slot. Sometimes you'll run into a > packed room or whatever else. When you go through the agenda, take > note of all of the meetings that catch your attention. Try to go to > them all if you can. I did... But then again, I was running around > like a crazy person last year. > > You're definitely going to want to attend all of the general sessions, > partially since nothing else is really open at that time, but mostly > because it's fun. Try to attend the NFB board meeting too. I hear that > it's going to be a great one. I don't remember how the room was set up > for the board meeting, but for general sessions the room is divided > into states. For example, the two or three rows in the very back will > be for Wyoming, and the rows closer to the front will be California, > Alaska, and Alabama etc. There are poles with signs on the left, as > you walk up the center aisle. The state affiliate presidents will be > sitting directly to the left of each of the signs. There are also > microphones placed strategically throughout the room if you want to > talk at the points that are appropriate. For example, when resolutions > are being discussed on the afternoon of one of the days, you may wish > to speak about one or more. In that case, you would walk up to the > microphone nearest you... You might have to wait in a line though. > > Overall, Convention is hectic, busy, slightly crazy, but very > wonderful. Try to do as much networking as you possibly can. You never > know where your connections might take you. I got a job as a direct > result of Convention last year, and I've become friends with > phenomenal people. Make sure you can write down phone numbers and > names and stuff like that. This year, I will have my BrailleNote Touch > to take notes during presentations, when appropriate. Feel free to try > and find me at convention. I'd love to chat with you. > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > >> On 5/9/17, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> I will be working at BISM this summer from june to August. I booked a room >> before i got the call from BISM. I am looking for one more female room mate. >> Please help so the room price will be less. >> Also i got all A this summer. Also if anyone has worked at BISM during the >> summer can you please share your experience because i am excited and >> scared. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Shikha. >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed May 10 12:45:07 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 08:45:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Jribute To My Tvi Message-ID: <59130b70.8795620a.9a029.d3f1@mx.google.com> Dear Students, Since it's Teacher's Appreciation Week, I wanted to pay tribute to my teachers of the visually impaired. Mrs. Hales was my vision teacher from the time my family and I moved to Florida from Boston. She worked hard to teach me to read and write braille which has allowed me to pursue my college degrees. There were five students in the vision room on a daily basis. Ms. Hales took us on field trips and transcribed my assignments for my sighted teachers. I would like to hear your tributes to your tvi's. From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed May 10 13:14:09 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 09:14:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Training Programs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I attended a training program at our local Lighthouse when I was in high school. I remember the hard work that went into planning our final celebration it was lots of fun Sent from my iPad > On May 9, 2017, at 11:12 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello fellow students! > > I wanted to put this out there because I think it'll generate some > conversation. I'm planning to attend the PREP program in Minnesota > this summer. I might as well say it. I may not get funding, and if I > don't, then that's too bad. Either way, I will be attending a training > program at some point. > > I know that quite a few of you have attended training programs. What > motivated you to do so? And also, do you have any advice and/or > experiences you'd be willing to share? Thanks! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Wed May 10 15:18:49 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 11:18:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Message-ID: Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own instead of others. Thank you in advance and I look forwar to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed May 10 17:15:53 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 13:15:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Message-ID: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com> Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind Services purchased this device for me before I started college in August of 2011. I chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of equipment because of my previous experiences with the BrailleNote family of products from Humanware. From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 17:24:19 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 11:24:19 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ae01d2c9b2$42880da0$c79828e0$@gmail.com> By far, I would recommend the newer device coming out from HIMS, the Polaris. The first ones are due to ship either the end of this month or in June, and orders are being taken. The best thing is that this device is running a later full version of Android, and will be updatable by the user, with all the functionality of being able to download the apps you want for the uses you want. By the time it ships, it will be a fully certified Google device and totally Google compatible with Google Sheets, Google Docs, and Google Drive. Polaris Office is mentioned, and this office suite is found on many Android phones. Also, since one will be able to download from the play store, Kindle books should be accessible now on this note taker as well. From my experience, the Android Kindle app is fully accessible on my phone, along with Microsoft's Outlook and Word, just to namea couple. Here is a description: HIMS+BrailleSense+Polaris+Data+Sheet.pdf The New Standard in Braille Notetaker HIMS Logo BrailleSense Polaris Seamless efficiency tool for school, work, and play BrailleSense Polaris offers a new standard in blind-friendly applications with the latest in cutting edge technology. BrailleSense Polaris levels the playing field with specialized applications built around Polaris Office Suite, while providing comprehensive access to popular Google Apps such as Docs, Slides, Sheets, and Classroom. Surf the Web with Google Chrome just like our traditional web browser. Use Polaris Word to write a report and other documents with the same feel as Word Processor. Sync your calendar to Google Calendar while using our Organizer. You can even enjoy a book from BookShare, BARD, or other sources in our DAISY reader, word processor, or via countless blindness and mainstream services. BrailleSense intuitive interface with a touch of mastery We’ve kept the traditional computer interface that has contributed to the popularity of other BrailleSense models. BrailleSense Polaris has a Perkins-style keyboard, a 32-cell braille display with cursor routing buttons, and touch sensors above the display for enhanced navigation. There are also touch sensors on the media buttons making them user definable. Blind-friendly Notetaker Features Standard Programs Use our optional thesaurus and multilingual dictionaries to broaden your vocabulary or find an equivalent app in the Google Play Store. BrailleSense Polaris, lets YOU decide! Analyze spreadsheets with our popular Excel Viewer, or read and edit spreadsheets in Google Sheets. Read or give a presentation using our PowerPoint Viewer, or create your own presentation from scratch in Slides. Tools for Today’s Students BrailleSense Polaris supports Google Apps, making it easy to utilize Google services like Drive, Docs, Sheets, and Slides as millions of other students do everyday. But, there’s more! BrailleSense Polaris provides unparalleled access to Google Classroom for blind students and teachers alike. Collaboration among students and teachers has NEVER been this easy. There’s support for Nemeth and UEB Math, too. BrailleSense Polaris allows for display on the built-in LCD display, tablets via Miracast, or an external monitor via the HDMI port. Polaris at School Polaris at Work Polaris On the Go 888-520-4467 | www.hims-inc.com BrailleSense Polaris Easy Connectivity with Your Favorite Devices Connect BrailleSense Polaris via Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.2, or USB3 to your computer, iOS device, Android device, tablet, or phone. Enjoy your own MP3 while listening through the Stereo Speakers, or use headphones with the audio jack for your private listening. Want to pay for something, COOL! Use the built-in NFC feature. BrailleSense Polaris is even equipped with an on- board “Flippable” LCD display. Allowing for more effective interactions between blind students, visual teachers, parents, co-workers, and friends. Don’t use BrailleSense Polaris just for work. Use it for play with the built-in IrDA as a remote, or you can even relax while using Chromecast on your TV. Polaris at Home table with 2 columns and 17 rows Specifications BrailleSense Polaris   Model # H532B   Braille Display Multi-touch enabled 32-Cells   Keyboard Type Perkins-style   Platform Android OS 5.1.1 (Lollipop), 2.1GHz Octa-core (CPU), 3GB (RAM)   Flash Memory 64 GB   Video Display HDMI output, built-in LCD   Interface USB 3.0 micro OTG, USB 2.0, HDMI, SD Card slot, Touch-enabled Multi Function Buttons   Network WLAN: 802.11 b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.2, IrDA, NFC (only in internal Apps) Ethernet: USB to Ethernet (Optional)   Navigation Voice Trigger (“Hey Polaris”), Built-in GPS, RTC, Accelerometer, Compass, Gyroscope   Media 13MP AF Camera, Alert (Vibration, Buzzer, Proprietary ringtones), Stereo speaker, Stereo MEMS and ANC microphone   Applications App Store: Google Play Store Preinstalled Apps: Polaris Office (Word, Slides, Sheets, Email), Web Browser, Terminal for Screen Reader, DAISY, File Manager, Schedule Manager, Address Manager, Calculator, Calendar, Media Player, Time & Date, Alarm, Stopwatch, FM Radio Optimized Apps: Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, Drive, Classroom, APH Nearby Explorer   Supported File Formats Documents: HBL, DOC, DOCX, XLS, XLSX, CSV, PPT, PPTX, RTF, TXT, BRL, BRF, EPUB, PDF, HTML/XML (in Web browser). Media: YouTube, MP3, MP4, WAV, ASF, OGG, WMA, M4A, M3U, PLS, Audible (with appropriate app), WMV, FLAC, MID, ACC. DAISY: DAISY 2.0/2.02/3.0, NIMAS 1.1, BookShare.org, Open Library, NLS, Learning Ally (with appropriate apps)   Battery 18 hours, 5 hours to charge(AC adapter and USB), Wireless charging(Qi compatible)   Size & Weight 9.66” x 5.66” x 0.39” (W x D x H), 1.65 lbs   Security & Safety Kensington Lock, Braille Cell Cover, TPU Carrying Case   Warranty One-year limited parts and labor warranty table end HIMS Logo 888-520-4467 | www.hims-inc.com 4616 W. Howard Lane, Suite 960, Austin, Texas 78728 l e a r n m o r e o n l i n e ! Arrow pointing to QR code. r-bsu150801 1191 1192 1193 1194 1195 S c a n t h i s c o d e t o -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own instead of others. Thank you in advance and I look forwar to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 17:31:22 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 11:31:22 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com> References: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com> Unfortunately, though, the Windows CE platform that most note takers are based on now, will be going away. It is comparative to Internet Explorer and is antiquated. The Braille Note Touch is on a deprecated form of Android 4.4. The Polaris is coming in with Android 5 Lollipop and is updatable, smaller, and with touch sensors so one can navigate with touch screen gestures. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind Services purchased this device for me before I started college in August of 2011. I chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of equipment because of my previous experiences with the BrailleNote family of products from Humanware. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed May 10 17:36:24 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 13:36:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <00ae01d2c9b2$42880da0$c79828e0$@gmail.com> References: <00ae01d2c9b2$42880da0$c79828e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: This device sounds awesome. Sent from my iPad > On May 10, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > By far, I would recommend the newer device coming out from HIMS, the > Polaris. The first ones are due to ship either the end of this month or in > June, and orders are being taken. > > The best thing is that this device is running a later full version of > Android, and will be updatable by the user, with all the functionality of > being able to download the apps you want for the uses you want. By the time > it ships, it will be a fully certified Google device and totally Google > compatible with Google Sheets, Google Docs, and Google Drive. Polaris > Office is mentioned, and this office suite is found on many Android phones. > Also, since one will be able to download from the play store, Kindle books > should be accessible now on this note taker as well. From my experience, > the Android Kindle app is fully accessible on my phone, along with > Microsoft's Outlook and Word, just to namea couple. > > Here is a description: > > HIMS+BrailleSense+Polaris+Data+Sheet.pdf > The New Standard in Braille Notetaker > HIMS Logo > BrailleSense Polaris > Seamless efficiency tool for school, work, and play > BrailleSense Polaris offers a new standard in blind-friendly > applications with the latest in cutting edge technology. BrailleSense > Polaris levels the playing field with specialized applications built > around Polaris Office Suite, while providing comprehensive > access to popular Google Apps such as Docs, Slides, Sheets, > and Classroom. Surf the Web with Google Chrome just like our > traditional web browser. Use Polaris Word to write a report and > other documents with the same feel as Word Processor. Sync > your calendar to Google Calendar while using our Organizer. You > can even enjoy a book from BookShare, BARD, or other sources > in our DAISY reader, word processor, or via countless blindness > and mainstream services. > BrailleSense intuitive interface with a touch of mastery > We’ve kept the traditional computer interface that has contributed > to the popularity of other BrailleSense models. BrailleSense > Polaris has a Perkins-style keyboard, a 32-cell braille display with > cursor routing buttons, and touch sensors above the display for > enhanced navigation. There are also touch sensors on the media > buttons making them user definable. > Blind-friendly Notetaker Features Standard Programs > Use our optional thesaurus and multilingual dictionaries to broaden > your vocabulary or find an equivalent app in the Google Play Store. > BrailleSense Polaris, lets YOU decide! Analyze spreadsheets with > our popular Excel Viewer, or read and edit spreadsheets in Google > Sheets. Read or give a presentation using our PowerPoint Viewer, > or create your own presentation from scratch in Slides. > Tools for Today’s Students > BrailleSense Polaris supports Google Apps, making it easy > to utilize Google services like Drive, Docs, Sheets, and Slides > as millions of other students do everyday. But, there’s more! > BrailleSense Polaris provides unparalleled access to Google > Classroom for blind students and teachers alike. Collaboration > among students and teachers has NEVER been this easy. There’s > support for Nemeth and UEB Math, too. BrailleSense Polaris > allows for display on the built-in LCD display, tablets via Miracast, > or an external monitor via the HDMI port. > Polaris at School > Polaris at Work > Polaris On the Go > 888-520-4467 | www.hims-inc.com > BrailleSense Polaris > Easy Connectivity with Your Favorite Devices > Connect BrailleSense Polaris via Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.2, > or USB3 to your computer, iOS device, Android device, > tablet, or phone. Enjoy your own MP3 while listening > through the Stereo Speakers, or use headphones with > the audio jack for your private listening. Want to pay > for something, COOL! Use the built-in NFC feature. > BrailleSense Polaris is even equipped with an on- > board “Flippable” LCD display. Allowing for more > effective interactions between blind students, visual > teachers, parents, co-workers, and friends. Don’t use > BrailleSense Polaris just for work. Use it for play with > the built-in IrDA as a remote, or you can even relax > while using Chromecast on your TV. > Polaris at Home > > table with 2 columns and 17 rows > Specifications > BrailleSense Polaris > > Model # > H532B > > Braille Display > Multi-touch enabled 32-Cells > > Keyboard Type > Perkins-style > > Platform > Android OS 5.1.1 (Lollipop), 2.1GHz Octa-core (CPU), 3GB (RAM) > > Flash Memory > 64 GB > > Video Display > HDMI output, built-in LCD > > Interface > USB 3.0 micro OTG, USB 2.0, HDMI, SD Card slot, Touch-enabled Multi Function > Buttons > > Network > WLAN: > 802.11 b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct > Bluetooth: > Bluetooth 4.2, IrDA, NFC (only in > internal Apps) > Ethernet: > USB to Ethernet (Optional) > > Navigation > Voice Trigger (“Hey Polaris”), Built-in GPS, RTC, Accelerometer, Compass, > Gyroscope > > Media > 13MP AF Camera, Alert (Vibration, Buzzer, Proprietary ringtones), Stereo > speaker, Stereo MEMS and ANC > microphone > > Applications > App Store: > Google Play Store > Preinstalled Apps: > Polaris Office (Word, Slides, Sheets, Email), Web Browser, > Terminal for Screen Reader, DAISY, File Manager, Schedule Manager, Address > Manager, Calculator, Calendar, > Media Player, Time & Date, Alarm, Stopwatch, FM Radio > Optimized Apps: > Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, Drive, > Classroom, APH Nearby Explorer > > Supported File > Formats > Documents: > HBL, DOC, DOCX, XLS, XLSX, CSV, PPT, PPTX, RTF, TXT, BRL, BRF, EPUB, PDF, > HTML/XML (in Web browser). > Media: > YouTube, MP3, MP4, WAV, ASF, OGG, WMA, M4A, M3U, PLS, Audible (with > appropriate app), WMV, FLAC, MID, > ACC. > DAISY: > DAISY 2.0/2.02/3.0, NIMAS 1.1, BookShare.org, Open Library, NLS, Learning > Ally (with appropriate apps) > > Battery > 18 hours, 5 hours to charge(AC adapter and USB), Wireless charging(Qi > compatible) > > Size & Weight > 9.66” x 5.66” x 0.39” (W x D x H), 1.65 lbs > > Security & Safety > Kensington Lock, Braille Cell Cover, TPU Carrying Case > > Warranty > One-year limited parts and labor warranty > table end > > HIMS Logo > 888-520-4467 > | www.hims-inc.com > 4616 W. Howard Lane, Suite 960, Austin, Texas 78728 > l > e > a > r > n > m > o > r > e > o > n > l > i > n > e > ! > Arrow pointing to QR code. > r-bsu150801 > 1191 > 1192 > 1193 > 1194 > 1195 > S > c > a > n > t > h > i > s > c > o > d > e > t > o > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey > via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:19 AM > To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L > Cc: Bobbi Pompey > Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hello all, > > I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices > you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share > why you selected the device you own instead of others. > > Thank you in advance and I look forwar to hearing your responses! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is > faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Wed May 10 17:40:51 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 13:40:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com> References: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com> <00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <024f01d2c9b4$91943070$b4bc9150$@sarahblakelarose.com> I tried out a BrailleNote touch at last year's convention. I see no point to it--if I want to use a touch screen I will use an IPAD and stick with a much more portable braille display. That resolves the issues with regard to Windows CE, etc. Then again, I transitioned from Perkins to slate in the sixth grade and did not own a braille input device until college. I am certain this colors my perspective greatly. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:31 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Unfortunately, though, the Windows CE platform that most note takers are based on now, will be going away. It is comparative to Internet Explorer and is antiquated. The Braille Note Touch is on a deprecated form of Android 4.4. The Polaris is coming in with Android 5 Lollipop and is updatable, smaller, and with touch sensors so one can navigate with touch screen gestures. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind Services purchased this device for me before I started college in August of 2011. I chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of equipment because of my previous experiences with the BrailleNote family of products from Humanware. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 17:43:42 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 11:43:42 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: <00ae01d2c9b2$42880da0$c79828e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00cf01d2c9b4$f77daab0$e6790010$@gmail.com> Also, another thing I thought of, as far as braille displays, the Orbit II is much less expensive if you just want a display to use with the computer or the phone. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:36 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: rbacchus228 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers This device sounds awesome. Sent from my iPad > On May 10, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > By far, I would recommend the newer device coming out from HIMS, the > Polaris. The first ones are due to ship either the end of this month > or in June, and orders are being taken. > > The best thing is that this device is running a later full version of > Android, and will be updatable by the user, with all the functionality > of being able to download the apps you want for the uses you want. By > the time it ships, it will be a fully certified Google device and > totally Google compatible with Google Sheets, Google Docs, and Google > Drive. Polaris Office is mentioned, and this office suite is found on many Android phones. > Also, since one will be able to download from the play store, Kindle > books should be accessible now on this note taker as well. From my > experience, the Android Kindle app is fully accessible on my phone, > along with Microsoft's Outlook and Word, just to namea couple. > > Here is a description: > > HIMS+BrailleSense+Polaris+Data+Sheet.pdf > The New Standard in Braille Notetaker > HIMS Logo > BrailleSense Polaris > Seamless efficiency tool for school, work, and play BrailleSense > Polaris offers a new standard in blind-friendly applications with the > latest in cutting edge technology. BrailleSense Polaris levels the > playing field with specialized applications built around Polaris > Office Suite, while providing comprehensive access to popular Google > Apps such as Docs, Slides, Sheets, and Classroom. Surf the Web with > Google Chrome just like our traditional web browser. Use Polaris Word > to write a report and other documents with the same feel as Word > Processor. Sync your calendar to Google Calendar while using our > Organizer. You can even enjoy a book from BookShare, BARD, or other > sources in our DAISY reader, word processor, or via countless > blindness and mainstream services. > BrailleSense intuitive interface with a touch of mastery We’ve kept > the traditional computer interface that has contributed to the > popularity of other BrailleSense models. BrailleSense Polaris has a > Perkins-style keyboard, a 32-cell braille display with cursor routing > buttons, and touch sensors above the display for enhanced navigation. > There are also touch sensors on the media buttons making them user > definable. > Blind-friendly Notetaker Features Standard Programs Use our optional > thesaurus and multilingual dictionaries to broaden your vocabulary or > find an equivalent app in the Google Play Store. > BrailleSense Polaris, lets YOU decide! Analyze spreadsheets with our > popular Excel Viewer, or read and edit spreadsheets in Google Sheets. > Read or give a presentation using our PowerPoint Viewer, or create > your own presentation from scratch in Slides. > Tools for Today’s Students > BrailleSense Polaris supports Google Apps, making it easy to utilize > Google services like Drive, Docs, Sheets, and Slides as millions of > other students do everyday. But, there’s more! > BrailleSense Polaris provides unparalleled access to Google Classroom > for blind students and teachers alike. Collaboration among students > and teachers has NEVER been this easy. There’s support for Nemeth and > UEB Math, too. BrailleSense Polaris allows for display on the built-in > LCD display, tablets via Miracast, or an external monitor via the HDMI > port. > Polaris at School > Polaris at Work > Polaris On the Go > 888-520-4467 | www.hims-inc.com > BrailleSense Polaris > Easy Connectivity with Your Favorite Devices Connect BrailleSense > Polaris via Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.2, or USB3 to your computer, iOS > device, Android device, tablet, or phone. Enjoy your own MP3 while > listening through the Stereo Speakers, or use headphones with the > audio jack for your private listening. Want to pay for something, > COOL! Use the built-in NFC feature. > BrailleSense Polaris is even equipped with an on- board “Flippable” > LCD display. Allowing for more effective interactions between blind > students, visual teachers, parents, co-workers, and friends. Don’t use > BrailleSense Polaris just for work. Use it for play with the built-in > IrDA as a remote, or you can even relax while using Chromecast on your > TV. > Polaris at Home > > table with 2 columns and 17 rows > Specifications > BrailleSense Polaris > > Model # > H532B > > Braille Display > Multi-touch enabled 32-Cells > > Keyboard Type > Perkins-style > > Platform > Android OS 5.1.1 (Lollipop), 2.1GHz Octa-core (CPU), 3GB (RAM) > > Flash Memory > 64 GB > > Video Display > HDMI output, built-in LCD > > Interface > USB 3.0 micro OTG, USB 2.0, HDMI, SD Card slot, Touch-enabled Multi > Function Buttons > > Network > WLAN: > 802.11 b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct > Bluetooth: > Bluetooth 4.2, IrDA, NFC (only in > internal Apps) > Ethernet: > USB to Ethernet (Optional) > > Navigation > Voice Trigger (“Hey Polaris”), Built-in GPS, RTC, Accelerometer, > Compass, Gyroscope > > Media > 13MP AF Camera, Alert (Vibration, Buzzer, Proprietary ringtones), > Stereo speaker, Stereo MEMS and ANC microphone > > Applications > App Store: > Google Play Store > Preinstalled Apps: > Polaris Office (Word, Slides, Sheets, Email), Web Browser, Terminal > for Screen Reader, DAISY, File Manager, Schedule Manager, Address > Manager, Calculator, Calendar, Media Player, Time & Date, Alarm, > Stopwatch, FM Radio Optimized Apps: > Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, Drive, > Classroom, APH Nearby Explorer > > Supported File > Formats > Documents: > HBL, DOC, DOCX, XLS, XLSX, CSV, PPT, PPTX, RTF, TXT, BRL, BRF, EPUB, > PDF, HTML/XML (in Web browser). > Media: > YouTube, MP3, MP4, WAV, ASF, OGG, WMA, M4A, M3U, PLS, Audible (with > appropriate app), WMV, FLAC, MID, ACC. > DAISY: > DAISY 2.0/2.02/3.0, NIMAS 1.1, BookShare.org, Open Library, NLS, > Learning Ally (with appropriate apps) > > Battery > 18 hours, 5 hours to charge(AC adapter and USB), Wireless charging(Qi > compatible) > > Size & Weight > 9.66” x 5.66” x 0.39” (W x D x H), 1.65 lbs > > Security & Safety > Kensington Lock, Braille Cell Cover, TPU Carrying Case > > Warranty > One-year limited parts and labor warranty table end > > HIMS Logo > 888-520-4467 > | www.hims-inc.com > 4616 W. Howard Lane, Suite 960, Austin, Texas 78728 l e a r n m o r e > o n l i n e ! > Arrow pointing to QR code. > r-bsu150801 > 1191 > 1192 > 1193 > 1194 > 1195 > S > c > a > n > t > h > i > s > c > o > d > e > t > o > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi > Pompey via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:19 AM > To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L > Cc: Bobbi Pompey > Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hello all, > > I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what > devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if > you would share why you selected the device you own instead of others. > > Thank you in advance and I look forwar to hearing your responses! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until > it is faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 17:46:13 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 11:46:13 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <024f01d2c9b4$91943070$b4bc9150$@sarahblakelarose.com> References: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com> <00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com> <024f01d2c9b4$91943070$b4bc9150$@sarahblakelarose.com> Message-ID: <00d101d2c9b5$518f3910$f4adab30$@gmail.com> The other thing is, this Polaris device has a 32-cell unit, but will be coming out with a Mini with the same specs but only 18-cell. I am waiting for that, because I LOVE the smaller devices. I have the U2 Mini now, and it goes everywhere with me, along with my Galaxy S7. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:41 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I tried out a BrailleNote touch at last year's convention. I see no point to it--if I want to use a touch screen I will use an IPAD and stick with a much more portable braille display. That resolves the issues with regard to Windows CE, etc. Then again, I transitioned from Perkins to slate in the sixth grade and did not own a braille input device until college. I am certain this colors my perspective greatly. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:31 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Unfortunately, though, the Windows CE platform that most note takers are based on now, will be going away. It is comparative to Internet Explorer and is antiquated. The Braille Note Touch is on a deprecated form of Android 4.4. The Polaris is coming in with Android 5 Lollipop and is updatable, smaller, and with touch sensors so one can navigate with touch screen gestures. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind Services purchased this device for me before I started college in August of 2011. I chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of equipment because of my previous experiences with the BrailleNote family of products from Humanware. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Wed May 10 17:53:59 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 13:53:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] how to draw Lewis dot Diagrams, understanding hybridization, and the molecular geometry In-Reply-To: <3802CC6F-3A13-4A93-8B37-AACB3DCCF843@yahoo.com> References: <3802CC6F-3A13-4A93-8B37-AACB3DCCF843@yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can describe it. Try looking it up. On 5/9/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm doing a worksheet packet for Chemistry and it'll be for a test grade. > How should I draw the Lewis diagrams and the sketch of the models for him to > grade? I also need help understanding the concept about hybridization. How > do I also figure out the molecular geometry of the compounds? Thanks so > much! I'd sure appreciate your help! I'd prefer to talk on the phone, if all > possible, because these concepts aren't easy to just type the explanations > for and to understand. I'm in Pre-AP Chemistry, but I'm taking AP Chemistry > next year. > > Hope Someone can help, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Wed May 10 18:02:26 2017 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 13:02:26 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] how to draw Lewis dot Diagrams, understanding hybridization, and the molecular geometry In-Reply-To: <3802CC6F-3A13-4A93-8B37-AACB3DCCF843@yahoo.com> References: <3802CC6F-3A13-4A93-8B37-AACB3DCCF843@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2A94B899-3DCC-4A3F-85AC-952B8B693DC1@gmail.com> Hi, This is actually the topic we’re covering in my college level general chemistry class right now. For the Lewis dot structures, I draw with a tactile drawing kit from EASY LLC, which works quite well and can be used independently. You might want to get a set of tactile letters that will allow you to see what different letters look like so you can draw them effectively. For now, you could just describe them to a reader and look into different tactile options. The Draftsman is also a board that some have used successfully to draw on. Regarding hybridization, that’s a tough one. It’s been boggling my brain since we covered it in class this morning. I do have a reader in class who is able to draw out the diagrams the professor puts on the board so that I can see them. This helped a great deal. Regarding electron and molecular geometries, you may be able to ask your teacher to see a ball and stick model that will help you understand much better than a flat drawing would. Things make much more sense when you are able to see where the lone pairs and bonds are in relation to one another, so that eventually, octahedral doesn’t sound so crazy. Chemistry is a very visual subject and is best understood with some sort of tactile graphics solution. I strongly encourage you to look into one of the kits I mentioned above. If you’d like to discuss this more, feel free to email me at blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com . HTH, Aleeha Dudley > On May 9, 2017, at 5:43 PM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I'm doing a worksheet packet for Chemistry and it'll be for a test grade. How should I draw the Lewis diagrams and the sketch of the models for him to grade? I also need help understanding the concept about hybridization. How do I also figure out the molecular geometry of the compounds? Thanks so much! I'd sure appreciate your help! I'd prefer to talk on the phone, if all possible, because these concepts aren't easy to just type the explanations for and to understand. I'm in Pre-AP Chemistry, but I'm taking AP Chemistry next year. > > Hope Someone can help, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Wed May 10 18:15:52 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:15:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Wed May 10 18:35:00 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:35:00 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <00d101d2c9b5$518f3910$f4adab30$@gmail.com> References: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com><00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com><024f01d2c9b4$91943070$b4bc9150$@sarahblakelarose.com> <00d101d2c9b5$518f3910$f4adab30$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39BF56A5538348A7A0E7290DEA23E90C@OwnerPC> Judy, I see your enthusiasm for the Braille sense U2 by Hymns. I've considered that line of products and now I have the humanware braille note. Which format are your files in as you open your word processor and write in contracted braille? Is it like the Braille note in that you can convert from your contracted braille files to a text file such as MS Word or RTF? Can you use skype or google docs on the current U2? I know you can do both with the new pollaris. And when did you say the pollaris was coming out? Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:46 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers The other thing is, this Polaris device has a 32-cell unit, but will be coming out with a Mini with the same specs but only 18-cell. I am waiting for that, because I LOVE the smaller devices. I have the U2 Mini now, and it goes everywhere with me, along with my Galaxy S7. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:41 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I tried out a BrailleNote touch at last year's convention. I see no point to it--if I want to use a touch screen I will use an IPAD and stick with a much more portable braille display. That resolves the issues with regard to Windows CE, etc. Then again, I transitioned from Perkins to slate in the sixth grade and did not own a braille input device until college. I am certain this colors my perspective greatly. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:31 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Unfortunately, though, the Windows CE platform that most note takers are based on now, will be going away. It is comparative to Internet Explorer and is antiquated. The Braille Note Touch is on a deprecated form of Android 4.4. The Polaris is coming in with Android 5 Lollipop and is updatable, smaller, and with touch sensors so one can navigate with touch screen gestures. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind Services purchased this device for me before I started college in August of 2011. I chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of equipment because of my previous experiences with the BrailleNote family of products from Humanware. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From louvins at gmail.com Wed May 10 19:20:21 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:20:21 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <39BF56A5538348A7A0E7290DEA23E90C@OwnerPC> References: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com> <00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com> <024f01d2c9b4$91943070$b4bc9150$@sarahblakelarose.com> <00d101d2c9b5$518f3910$f4adab30$@gmail.com> <39BF56A5538348A7A0E7290DEA23E90C@OwnerPC> Message-ID: I'm not currently in college, but I bought myself a braille note touch. I don't use the touch screen, but the keyboard built into the touches case. I really enjoy my touch. I heard a demonstration of the polaris and wasn't all that impressed with the unit. I personally think the hims notetakers have way to many buttons. I also thought the voice that the polaris used was terrible I could hardly understand what the device was saying. I can check my email, do skype and youtube on my touch very easily. I haven't tried the kindle app yet, but will do that soon. I've got about 7 gigs worth of .mobi files that I'd like to have something to read them on without having to convert them to another format. I'm very happy with my touch.

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On 5/10/17, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > Judy, > I see your enthusiasm for the Braille sense U2 by Hymns. > I've considered that line of products and now I have the humanware braille > note. > Which format are your files in as you open your word processor and write in > > contracted braille? Is it like the Braille note in that you can convert from > > your contracted braille files to a text file such as MS Word or RTF? > Can you use skype or google docs on the current U2? I know you can do both > with the new pollaris. > And when did you say the pollaris was coming out? > > Ashley > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Jones via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:46 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Judy Jones > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > The other thing is, this Polaris device has a 32-cell unit, but will be > coming out with a Mini with the same specs but only 18-cell. I am waiting > for that, because I LOVE the smaller devices. I have the U2 Mini now, and > it goes everywhere with me, along with my Galaxy S7. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via > NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:41 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > I tried out a BrailleNote touch at last year's convention. I see no point > to > it--if I want to use a touch screen I will use an IPAD and stick with a > much > more portable braille display. That resolves the issues with regard to > Windows CE, etc. Then again, I transitioned from Perkins to slate in the > sixth grade and did not own a braille input device until college. I am > certain this colors my perspective greatly. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via > NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:31 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Judy Jones > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Unfortunately, though, the Windows CE platform that most note takers are > based on now, will be going away. It is comparative to Internet Explorer > and is antiquated. The Braille Note Touch is on a deprecated form of > Android 4.4. The Polaris is coming in with Android 5 Lollipop and is > updatable, smaller, and with touch sensors so one can navigate with touch > screen gestures. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus > via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:16 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: roanna bacchus > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a > thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind Services > purchased this device for me before I started college in August of 2011. I > chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of equipment because of my > previous experiences with the BrailleNote family of products from > Humanware. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 20:25:12 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:25:12 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com> <00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com> <024f01d2c9b4$91943070$b4bc9150$@sarahblakelarose.com> <00d101d2c9b5$518f3910$f4adab30$@gmail.com> <39BF56A5538348A7A0E7290DEA23E90C@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <00d901d2c9cb$87821900$96864b00$@gmail.com> If one does not like the onboard voice, one can always download a number of alternative voices from the Play Store. I have downloaded ETI Eloquence and love it. Many prefer the vocalizer voices, eSpeak, Ivona, or a number of TTS engines I'm not familiar with. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:20 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Joshua Hendrickson Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I'm not currently in college, but I bought myself a braille note touch. I don't use the touch screen, but the keyboard built into the touches case. I really enjoy my touch. I heard a demonstration of the polaris and wasn't all that impressed with the unit. I personally think the hims notetakers have way to many buttons. I also thought the voice that the polaris used was terrible I could hardly understand what the device was saying. I can check my email, do skype and youtube on my touch very easily. I haven't tried the kindle app yet, but will do that soon. I've got about 7 gigs worth of .mobi files that I'd like to have something to read them on without having to convert them to another format. I'm very happy with my touch.

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On 5/10/17, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > Judy, > I see your enthusiasm for the Braille sense U2 by Hymns. > I've considered that line of products and now I have the humanware > braille note. > Which format are your files in as you open your word processor and > write in > > contracted braille? Is it like the Braille note in that you can > convert from > > your contracted braille files to a text file such as MS Word or RTF? > Can you use skype or google docs on the current U2? I know you can do > both with the new pollaris. > And when did you say the pollaris was coming out? > > Ashley > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Jones via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:46 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Judy Jones > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > The other thing is, this Polaris device has a 32-cell unit, but will > be coming out with a Mini with the same specs but only 18-cell. I am > waiting for that, because I LOVE the smaller devices. I have the U2 > Mini now, and it goes everywhere with me, along with my Galaxy S7. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via > NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:41 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > I tried out a BrailleNote touch at last year's convention. I see no > point to it--if I want to use a touch screen I will use an IPAD and > stick with a much more portable braille display. That resolves the > issues with regard to Windows CE, etc. Then again, I transitioned from > Perkins to slate in the sixth grade and did not own a braille input > device until college. I am certain this colors my perspective greatly. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy > Jones via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:31 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Judy Jones > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Unfortunately, though, the Windows CE platform that most note takers > are based on now, will be going away. It is comparative to Internet > Explorer and is antiquated. The Braille Note Touch is on a deprecated > form of Android 4.4. The Polaris is coming in with Android 5 Lollipop > and is updatable, smaller, and with touch sensors so one can navigate > with touch screen gestures. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna > bacchus via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:16 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: roanna bacchus > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a > thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind > Services purchased this device for me before I started college in > August of 2011. I chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of > equipment because of my previous experiences with the BrailleNote > family of products from Humanware. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblake > larose > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmai > l.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40eart > hlink.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.co > m > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 20:32:50 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:32:50 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <39BF56A5538348A7A0E7290DEA23E90C@OwnerPC> References: <59134ae6.e31d9d0a.59cf6.930d@mx.google.com><00c601d2c9b3$3e3e3980$babaac80$@gmail.com><024f01d2c9b4$91943070$b4bc9150$@sarahblakelarose.com> <00d101d2c9b5$518f3910$f4adab30$@gmail.com> <39BF56A5538348A7A0E7290DEA23E90C@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <00db01d2c9cc$9810b9b0$c8322d10$@gmail.com> Yes, Ashley, you can convert formats quite easily. You can choose a default format for documents when you open a new document, text, braille or Word. Regarding braille formats, you can toggle between computer braille, uncontracted braille and contracted braille. In the global settings, you can also set up for UEB for both UK or US, the older Grades 1 and 2, and other languages as well. The Polaris is due to come out either the end of this month or in June, and the mini version they are anticipating the end of this year. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:35 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ashley Bramlett Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Judy, I see your enthusiasm for the Braille sense U2 by Hymns. I've considered that line of products and now I have the humanware braille note. Which format are your files in as you open your word processor and write in contracted braille? Is it like the Braille note in that you can convert from your contracted braille files to a text file such as MS Word or RTF? Can you use skype or google docs on the current U2? I know you can do both with the new pollaris. And when did you say the pollaris was coming out? Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:46 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers The other thing is, this Polaris device has a 32-cell unit, but will be coming out with a Mini with the same specs but only 18-cell. I am waiting for that, because I LOVE the smaller devices. I have the U2 Mini now, and it goes everywhere with me, along with my Galaxy S7. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:41 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I tried out a BrailleNote touch at last year's convention. I see no point to it--if I want to use a touch screen I will use an IPAD and stick with a much more portable braille display. That resolves the issues with regard to Windows CE, etc. Then again, I transitioned from Perkins to slate in the sixth grade and did not own a braille input device until college. I am certain this colors my perspective greatly. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:31 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Unfortunately, though, the Windows CE platform that most note takers are based on now, will be going away. It is comparative to Internet Explorer and is antiquated. The Braille Note Touch is on a deprecated form of Android 4.4. The Polaris is coming in with Android 5 Lollipop and is updatable, smaller, and with touch sensors so one can navigate with touch screen gestures. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of roanna bacchus via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: roanna bacchus Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hi Bobby thanks for your message. I own a BrailleNote Apex with a thirty-two cell braille display. The Florida Division of Blind Services purchased this device for me before I started college in August of 2011. I chose to ask my counselor to purchase this piece of equipment because of my previous experiences with the BrailleNote family of products from Humanware. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose .com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink. net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 20:34:30 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:34:30 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> Another thing about the HIMS units is that typing on the braille keyboards is almost silent, even when you are not trying to be. I don't know how they do it. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From louvins at gmail.com Wed May 10 20:55:22 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 15:55:22 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> References: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I can type pretty quietly on my touch with the keyboard as well. I've got eloquence as one of the voices on my touch. The vocalizer voices are also pretty good as well as the acapela voices.

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On 5/10/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > Another thing about the HIMS units is that typing on the braille keyboards > is almost silent, even when you are not trying to be. I don't know how > they > do it. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:16 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because > it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say > "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare > doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey > via NABS-L > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM > > To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L > > Cc: Bobbi Pompey > > Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hello all, > > I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices > you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would > share > why you selected the device you own, instead of others. > > Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it > is > faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Wed May 10 20:59:17 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 16:59:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> References: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009601d2c9d0$4b33eb40$e19bc1c0$@gmail.com> However, for half the price you get an iOS or android device and a braille display. This to me seems the more logical answer. Not just for the fact of saving money but it's more versatile and as far as the braille display is concerned rarely needs updating. You can also use your braille display with either your computer or mac computer. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:35 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Another thing about the HIMS units is that typing on the braille keyboards is almost silent, even when you are not trying to be. I don't know how they do it. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m From sonshines59 at gmail.com Wed May 10 22:56:56 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 16:56:56 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <009601d2c9d0$4b33eb40$e19bc1c0$@gmail.com> References: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> <009601d2c9d0$4b33eb40$e19bc1c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2c9e0$b9845340$2c8cf9c0$@gmail.com> Very true, that is the cheaper way to go. If I did not have the U2 Mini, I would get the Orbit II. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Aaron Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers However, for half the price you get an iOS or android device and a braille display. This to me seems the more logical answer. Not just for the fact of saving money but it's more versatile and as far as the braille display is concerned rarely needs updating. You can also use your braille display with either your computer or mac computer. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:35 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Another thing about the HIMS units is that typing on the braille keyboards is almost silent, even when you are not trying to be. I don't know how they do it. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From louvins at gmail.com Wed May 10 23:10:33 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 18:10:33 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <000001d2c9e0$b9845340$2c8cf9c0$@gmail.com> References: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> <009601d2c9d0$4b33eb40$e19bc1c0$@gmail.com> <000001d2c9e0$b9845340$2c8cf9c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't do touch screens. it also depends on what size a braille display you want. That orbit display sounds interesting.

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On 5/10/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > Very true, that is the cheaper way to go. If I did not have the U2 Mini, I > would get the Orbit II. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron via > NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:59 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Aaron > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > However, for half the price you get an iOS or android device and a braille > display. This to me seems the more logical answer. Not just for the fact of > saving money but it's more versatile and as far as the braille display is > concerned rarely needs updating. You can also use your braille display with > either your computer or mac computer. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > CEO Blind Faith Project > CEO Linson Productions > Aaron Linson > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via > NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:35 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > > Cc: Judy Jones > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Another thing about the HIMS units is that typing on the braille keyboards > is almost silent, even when you are not trying to be. I don't know how > they > do it. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:16 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because > it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say > "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare > doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey > via NABS-L > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM > > To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L > > Cc: Bobbi Pompey > > Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hello all, > > I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices > you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would > share > why you selected the device you own, instead of others. > > Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it > is > faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu May 11 01:25:40 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 18:25:40 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification Message-ID: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> Hi All, I was wondering if any of you know of any online courses where I can receive my UEB certification? Thanks, Vejas From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Thu May 11 01:51:05 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 18:51:05 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification In-Reply-To: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> References: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Are you talking about certifications for transcription? On 5/10/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi All, > I was wondering if any of you know of any online courses where I > can receive my UEB certification? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From pulyperez1 at gmail.com Thu May 11 02:21:37 2017 From: pulyperez1 at gmail.com (Precious Perez) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 22:21:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification In-Reply-To: References: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Here is a link to an accessible online UEB course. You just need to create an account, and you can activate it and get started. Hope this helps. http://uebot.niu.edu/courses/course/ Precious Sent from my iPhone > On May 10, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Are you talking about certifications for transcription? > >> On 5/10/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi All, >> I was wondering if any of you know of any online courses where I >> can receive my UEB certification? >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pulyperez1%40gmail.com From jtorres3263 at gmail.com Thu May 11 02:43:10 2017 From: jtorres3263 at gmail.com (Jeanette) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 22:43:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <009601d2c9d0$4b33eb40$e19bc1c0$@gmail.com> References: <000401d2c9b9$76f42450$64dc6cf0$@sbcglobal.net> <00dd01d2c9cc$d3e00130$7ba00390$@gmail.com> <009601d2c9d0$4b33eb40$e19bc1c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003d01d2ca00$54a66f10$fdf34d30$@gmail.com> I agree. Jeanette Torres -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:59 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Aaron Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers However, for half the price you get an iOS or android device and a braille display. This to me seems the more logical answer. Not just for the fact of saving money but it's more versatile and as far as the braille display is concerned rarely needs updating. You can also use your braille display with either your computer or mac computer. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:35 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Another thing about the HIMS units is that typing on the braille keyboards is almost silent, even when you are not trying to be. I don't know how they do it. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jtorres3263%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu May 11 04:50:20 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 21:50:20 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification In-Reply-To: References: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <05DDE101-CC82-4FD7-80AD-2A27C56C7DFB@gmail.com> Thank you both. Precious, I'll take a look at your link. Cricket, my goal is to become a proofreader for new books at my local Braille institute. I believe I need to be certified in UEB to do so, even though most books are still written in regular grade 2 Braille at the moment. Vejas > On May 10, 2017, at 18:51, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Are you talking about certifications for transcription? > >> On 5/10/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi All, >> I was wondering if any of you know of any online courses where I >> can receive my UEB certification? >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From Amason at nfb.org Thu May 11 13:55:39 2017 From: Amason at nfb.org (Mason, Amy) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 13:55:39 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification In-Reply-To: <05DDE101-CC82-4FD7-80AD-2A27C56C7DFB@gmail.com> References: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> <05DDE101-CC82-4FD7-80AD-2A27C56C7DFB@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure this is what you are looking for, but the UEB certification is available through the Braille transcription course NFB runs for NLS. If you are already a certified transcriber. If not, I believe this is a longer process, but here's a link to the page about Braille transcription certification from the NFB webpage. I'd get in contact with one of the instructors and see if you can get what you need through that channel. https://nfb.org/braille-transcribing Amy Mason (410) 659-9314 Ext. 2424 National Federation of the Blind -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:50 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas Subject: Re: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification Thank you both. Precious, I'll take a look at your link. Cricket, my goal is to become a proofreader for new books at my local Braille institute. I believe I need to be certified in UEB to do so, even though most books are still written in regular grade 2 Braille at the moment. Vejas > On May 10, 2017, at 18:51, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Are you talking about certifications for transcription? > >> On 5/10/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi All, >> I was wondering if any of you know of any online courses where I can >> receive my UEB certification? >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amason%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From misokwak12 at gmail.com Thu May 11 13:59:32 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 06:59:32 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Best way to read Track Change Message-ID: Hi all, What would be the best way to read comments made using the track change feature on MS Word? My available options are JAWS 16, BrailleNote Apex, and NVDA. I would like to be able to distinguish the comment and my own writing, and know which comment corresponds to which part of my writing. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Thu May 11 14:18:07 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 09:18:07 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: 8W9odBdvePMhH8W9qdpEnm References: 8W9odBdvePMhH8W9qdpEnm Message-ID: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et From sonshines59 at gmail.com Thu May 11 14:39:45 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 08:39:45 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> References: 8W9odBdvePMhH8W9qdpEnm <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <001901d2ca64$6fed78e0$4fc86aa0$@gmail.com> That is the cheaper way to go. The disadvantage, if you could call it that, is that you are carrying around 2 devices to get the job done rather than one. An alternative would be to buy the Mini when it comes out, but again, is more expensive than buying something like the Orbit II. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:18 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Loren Wakefield Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From lakeria2009 at gmail.com Thu May 11 14:45:08 2017 From: lakeria2009 at gmail.com (Lakeria Taylor) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 09:45:08 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification In-Reply-To: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> References: <5913bdc0.4b07620a.63d90.1144@mx.google.com> Message-ID: There is not a website for that. I believe you have to go on the website, and look into physical locations that you can go and take the test. Sent from my iPhone > On May 10, 2017, at 8:25 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > I was wondering if any of you know of any online courses where I can receive my UEB certification? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Thu May 11 14:58:53 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 10:58:53 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Best way to read Track Change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011001d2ca67$1b4d03c0$51e70b40$@gmail.com> Hi Miso, Just press control, shift, apostrophe to read the comments in list form, and if you want to go directly to a specific comment, hit enter on it when you're in the list. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:00 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Best way to read Track Change Hi all, What would be the best way to read comments made using the track change feature on MS Word? My available options are JAWS 16, BrailleNote Apex, and NVDA. I would like to be able to distinguish the comment and my own writing, and know which comment corresponds to which part of my writing. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Thu May 11 15:00:19 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 11:00:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> References: 8W9odBdvePMhH8W9qdpEnm <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it is. I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and although it did have some issues, overall it was great. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Loren Wakefield Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From louvins at gmail.com Thu May 11 15:27:12 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 10:27:12 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Jordan, that's great about you getting a touch. I really like my touch. I think another aspect about notetakers, and braille displays is to consider what is good for one person might not be good for someone else. I decided to buy my touch because I feel the touch is the best device that will best suit my specific needs and wants in a notetaker. While someone else might want a different notetaker or use a combo of braille display and eyephone.

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On 5/11/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information on > braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually receiving a BN > Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it is. > I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and although > it > did have some issues, overall it was great. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren > Wakefield > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Loren Wakefield > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware > is > a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds > intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a > braille display with an IPone and be much better off. > > Loren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because > it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say > "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare > doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey > via NABS-L > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM > > To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L > > Cc: Bobbi Pompey > > Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hello all, > > I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices > you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would > share > why you selected the device you own, instead of others. > > Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it > is > faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From ignasicambra at gmail.com Thu May 11 15:44:42 2017 From: ignasicambra at gmail.com (Ignasi Cambra) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 17:44:42 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> Hello all, I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? This is a really interesting topic! IC Sent from my iPhone > On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > > This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information on > braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually receiving a BN > Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it is. > I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and although it > did have some issues, overall it was great. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield > via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Loren Wakefield > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware is > a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds > intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a > braille display with an IPone and be much better off. > > Loren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because > it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say > "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare > doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey > via NABS-L > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM > > To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L > > Cc: Bobbi Pompey > > Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hello all, > > I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices > you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share > why you selected the device you own, instead of others. > > Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is > faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gmail.com From louvins at gmail.com Thu May 11 16:14:18 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 11:14:18 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> Message-ID: For me, I like buttons and keys. I don't like touch screens. I haven't used a device with a touch screen, but they seem way to sensative for me. I like with my touch, I have first letter navigation and can quickly with one letter get to what app I want to use without having to do any kind of swiping or take time finding what I want to use. Also, my braille display and my touch are all one unit. I don't have to carry around multiple devices with me. I also like having a lot of cells on my braille display. I don't see how someone with either a 14 or even 18 cell display and their eyephone or tablet could do any kind of reading very easily. I'm enjoying trying out my touch and I learned a lot about the touch before I even had one by listening to a very nice tutorial that came out from mystic access. I did my research and for my needs, the touch is the machine for me.

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On 5/11/17, Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L wrote: > Hello all, > I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and not > because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But what's the > point of buying one of them when these days there are so many mainstream > devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android devices can be used by > blind people, including phones, tablets, and everything in between. There > are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth > braille displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's > hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. > I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had > a chance to try any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like > some of them aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while > people say they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, > etc. etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille > notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? > This is a really interesting topic! > > IC > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information on >> braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually receiving a BN >> Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it >> is. >> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and although >> it >> did have some issues, overall it was great. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >> Wakefield >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Loren Wakefield >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware >> is >> a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds >> intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a >> braille display with an IPone and be much better off. >> >> Loren >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >> NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Jen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it >> because >> it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say >> "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare >> doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >> >> Jen >> >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey >> via NABS-L >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >> >> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >> >> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> Hello all, >> >> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices >> you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would >> share >> why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >> >> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >> >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> bobbipompey at gmail.com >> >> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it >> is >> faced" James Baldwin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Thu May 11 17:23:52 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Linson Productions) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 13:23:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably purchase is smaller display for this reason. On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L wrote: > Hello all, > I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and not > because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But what's the > point of buying one of them when these days there are so many mainstream > devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android devices can be used by > blind people, including phones, tablets, and everything in between. There > are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth > braille displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's > hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille > notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, since I > haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently available. It > seems like some of them aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in > a while people say they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with > them, etc. etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a > braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? > This is a really interesting topic! > > IC > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> >> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information on >> braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually receiving a BN >> Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it is. >> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and although it >> did have some issues, overall it was great. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Loren Wakefield >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware is >> a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds >> intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a >> braille display with an IPone and be much better off. >> >> Loren >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Jen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because >> it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say >> "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare >> doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >> >> Jen >> >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey >> via NABS-L >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >> >> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >> >> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> Hello all, >> >> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices >> you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share >> why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >> >> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >> >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> bobbipompey at gmail.com >> >> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is >> faced" James Baldwin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com From bjduarte at asu.edu Thu May 11 19:56:51 2017 From: bjduarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 12:56:51 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS silent auction Message-ID: Greetings our fellow federationists, The NABS board would like to announce a silent auction we are holding. The items being auctioned are a set of 4 tickets to Sea World. The auction will run the entire month of May and each week the current high bid will be posted on our social media sites. To enter the bid you can follow the provided link, complete the form with your name, contact information, and bid. As we prepare to meet in Orlando for another fantastic National Convention we hope you will add a relaxing trip to Sea World to your time in Florida. Thank you and good luck. Follow this link to enter your bid: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeydCbAZiMMfFPiEMymuJC3862OAyr6w258493r0LE3JNYQYw/viewform?usp=sf_link Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Thu May 11 21:41:46 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 17:41:46 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01c201d2ca9f$63fcfa20$2bf6ee60$@gmail.com> Ok. That's interesting. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson Productions via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:24 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Linson Productions Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably purchase is smaller display for this reason. On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L wrote: > Hello all, > I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and > not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But > what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so > many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android > devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and > everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth > braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one > can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending > thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. I am saying all of this > from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had a chance to try > any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like some of them > aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while people say > they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. > etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? > This is a really interesting topic! > > IC > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> >> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information >> on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually >> receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it is. >> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >> Wakefield via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Loren Wakefield >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the >> Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I >> believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. >> >> Loren >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >> NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Jen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it >> because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in >> braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped >> working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >> >> Jen >> >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >> Pompey via NABS-L >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >> >> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >> >> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> Hello all, >> >> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if >> you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >> >> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >> >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> bobbipompey at gmail.com >> >> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >> until it is faced" James Baldwin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcg >> lobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40media >> combb.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gm >> ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Thu May 11 23:57:48 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 19:57:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Best way to read Track Change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016101d2cab2$64c83ec0$2e58bc40$@gmail.com> You can turn on the virtual cursor using insert plus z, then use the letter r to go from change to change. Then, you can use the applications key to accept or reject the change. That's probably the quickest. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:00 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: [nabs-l] Best way to read Track Change Hi all, What would be the best way to read comments made using the track change feature on MS Word? My available options are JAWS 16, BrailleNote Apex, and NVDA. I would like to be able to distinguish the comment and my own writing, and know which comment corresponds to which part of my writing. Thank you in advance. Miso Kwak -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Fri May 12 00:48:18 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 19:48:18 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: 8qkldUjbTPMhH8qkod0AmT References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> 8qkldUjbTPMhH8qkod0AmT Message-ID: <018001d2cab9$73180440$59480cc0$@mediacombb.net> That is the main point. What works for me, might not meet yours needs and wants. So if the touch works, go for it. If a display and a tablet or phone works, go for it. We all have different situations and likes. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:14 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Joshua Hendrickson Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers For me, I like buttons and keys. I don't like touch screens. I haven't used a device with a touch screen, but they seem way to sensative for me. I like with my touch, I have first letter navigation and can quickly with one letter get to what app I want to use without having to do any kind of swiping or take time finding what I want to use. Also, my braille display and my touch are all one unit. I don't have to carry around multiple devices with me. I also like having a lot of cells on my braille display. I don't see how someone with either a 14 or even 18 cell display and their eyephone or tablet could do any kind of reading very easily. I'm enjoying trying out my touch and I learned a lot about the touch before I even had one by listening to a very nice tutorial that came out from mystic access. I did my research and for my needs, the touch is the machine for me.

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On 5/11/17, Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L wrote: > Hello all, > I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and > not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But > what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so > many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android > devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and > everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth > braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one > can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. > I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, since I > haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently available. > It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all websites, > everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening some kinds > of attachments with them, etc. etc. But what are the advantages? For > those of you who use a braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? > This is a really interesting topic! > > IC > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >> >> wrote: >> >> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information >> on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually >> receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as >> good as I think it is. >> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >> Wakefield via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Loren Wakefield >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the >> Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I >> believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much >> better off. >> >> Loren >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >> NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Jen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it >> because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in >> braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped >> working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >> >> Jen >> >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >> Pompey via NABS-L >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >> >> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >> >> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> Hello all, >> >> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if >> you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of >> others. >> >> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >> >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> bobbipompey at gmail.com >> >> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >> until it is faced" James Baldwin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcg >> lobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40media >> combb.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gm >> ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.co > m > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.net From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Fri May 12 00:48:43 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 19:48:43 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: 8qHvdPTVyelMK8qI0dBzPv References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> 8qHvdPTVyelMK8qI0dBzPv Message-ID: <018101d2cab9$81839350$848ab9f0$@mediacombb.net> At the time I got the Apex, it was the best way for me to do what Ineeded to do. If I were doing it today, I'm pretty sure my choice would be different. I say this due to pure economics and what th Different devices can or cannot do. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:45 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ignasi Cambra Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? This is a really interesting topic! IC Sent from my iPhone > On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > > This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information > on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually receiving > a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it is. > I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and > although it did have some issues, overall it was great. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren > Wakefield via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Loren Wakefield > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from > humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the > Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I > believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. > > Loren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via > NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Jen > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it > because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in > braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped > working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. > > Jen > > spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi > Pompey via NABS-L > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM > > To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L > > Cc: Bobbi Pompey > > Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Hello all, > > I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what > devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if > you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. > > Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! > > > Bobbi A. L. Pompey > (336) 988-6375 > bobbipompey at gmail.com > > "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until > it is faced" James Baldwin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcgl > obal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediac > ombb.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmai > l.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gma > il.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.net From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Fri May 12 00:54:38 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 19:54:38 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: 8pHPdOMLvelMK8pHTdBF97 References: 8W9odBdvePMhH8W9qdpEnm <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> 8pHPdOMLvelMK8pHTdBF97 Message-ID: <018501d2caba$55306b10$ff914130$@mediacombb.net> The Polaris sounds like an awesome product. But to afford it at this time, I'd have to raid the bank in my monopoly game. And I doubt that would gain me any favor with himms. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:40 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers That is the cheaper way to go. The disadvantage, if you could call it that, is that you are carrying around 2 devices to get the job done rather than one. An alternative would be to buy the Mini when it comes out, but again, is more expensive than buying something like the Orbit II. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:18 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Loren Wakefield Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Fri May 12 01:48:36 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 21:48:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <018501d2caba$55306b10$ff914130$@mediacombb.net> References: 8W9odBdvePMhH8W9qdpEnm <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> 8pHPdOMLvelMK8pHTdBF97 <018501d2caba$55306b10$ff914130$@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <021701d2cac1$df40a3e0$9dc1eba0$@gmail.com> (LOL) I understand. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:55 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Loren Wakefield Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers The Polaris sounds like an awesome product. But to afford it at this time, I'd have to raid the bank in my monopoly game. And I doubt that would gain me any favor with himms. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:40 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Judy Jones Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers That is the cheaper way to go. The disadvantage, if you could call it that, is that you are carrying around 2 devices to get the job done rather than one. An alternative would be to buy the Mini when it comes out, but again, is more expensive than buying something like the Orbit II. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren Wakefield via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:18 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Loren Wakefield Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi Pompey via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L Cc: Bobbi Pompey Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Hello all, I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! Bobbi A. L. Pompey (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From sonshines59 at gmail.com Fri May 12 02:40:21 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 20:40:21 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> I too would also prefer the smaller display. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson Productions via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Linson Productions Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably purchase is smaller display for this reason. On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L wrote: > Hello all, > I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and > not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But > what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so > many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android > devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and > everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth > braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one > can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending > thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. I am saying all of this > from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had a chance to try > any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like some of them > aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while people say > they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. > etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? > This is a really interesting topic! > > IC > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> >> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information >> on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually >> receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as I think it is. >> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >> Wakefield via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Loren Wakefield >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the >> Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I >> believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better off. >> >> Loren >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >> NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Jen >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it >> because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in >> braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped >> working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >> >> Jen >> >> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >> Pompey via NABS-L >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >> >> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >> >> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> Hello all, >> >> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if >> you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >> >> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >> >> >> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >> (336) 988-6375 >> bobbipompey at gmail.com >> >> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >> until it is faced" James Baldwin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcg >> lobal.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40media >> combb.n >> et >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gm >> ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Fri May 12 15:25:28 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 11:25:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > I too would also prefer the smaller display. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson > Productions via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Linson Productions > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one device to > carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I carried a standalone GPS > unit my phone and a no taking device. Although it would be cool to see the > new note Acres out in the market today, I believe for me having a braille > display connected to my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying > both devices as I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would > probably purchase is smaller display for this reason. > > > On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But >> what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so >> many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android >> devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and >> everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth >> braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one >> can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending >> thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. I am saying all of this >> from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had a chance to try >> any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like some of them >> aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while people say >> they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille >> notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? >> This is a really interesting topic! >> >> IC >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information >>> on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually >>> receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good >>> as I think it is. >>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>> >>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the >>> Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I >>> believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better >>> off. >>> >>> Loren >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >>> NABS-L >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>> Cc: Jen >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>> >>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it >>> because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in >>> braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped >>> working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >>> >>> Jen >>> >>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>> Pompey via NABS-L >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>> >>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>> >>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if >>> you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >>> >>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>> >>> >>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>> (336) 988-6375 >>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>> >>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcg >>> lobal.n >>> et >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40media >>> combb.n >>> et >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >>> il.com >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gm >>> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gm >> ail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From braillemasterjustin at gmail.com Fri May 12 15:45:54 2017 From: braillemasterjustin at gmail.com (Justin Heard) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 11:45:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Students in Georgia Message-ID: <1006688e-79a0-97ed-b179-56c377d7d4fd@gmail.com> Greetings fellow students! My name is Justin Heard, and I am president of the Georgia Association of Blind Students. I write with news on what our division is doing, and hope you will be as excited as I am. Currently, we are working on recruiting students to our division. In the past, we have had a limited number of people, and have focused our efforts on fundraising. then I realized that fundraising was the reason our division had failed. We focused so much on raising money, and less on what our division is meant to accomplish. We are supposed to bring blind students together from all across our state. We are supposed to give them a place to ask questions, to meet their peers, and most importantly to learn. By focusing on our finances, we failed, thus pushing away our foundation. After not having any students show up for our NFB state convention, me and the president of the National Federation of the Blind of Georgia changed tactics. Let's bring blind people together in an unofficial setting. Let's create an environment where they don't have to focus on meetings, conference calls, raising money, etc. Let's find a way to let students come together. And we have. Now, I am proud to announce that we have an Allo Messenger group that has 9 members in it, and we are growing. If you are a student in our wonderful state, or who will be attending school here soon, we encourage you to join. Please feel free to send me your contact information, and I will tell you how to become a member of our group. Our goal is to work up to an official division, where we raise money, help with legislation, and all of the other exciting things that divisions do. But in order to get there, we must have students that care. We must have a group of people at the core who know each other, and are excited to work together. I believe that this is the best approach, and hope other state divisions who are building will follow our example. In other news, we are planning our first student seminar in many years for October! I will send out updates when we have more concrete information. Please spread the word about what we're doing to any students you know who can benefit from our projects. Happy Friday! From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Fri May 12 15:51:14 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 11:51:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations to the 2017 Scholarship Winners Message-ID: <5915da14.16c6ca0a.db3db.a05a@mx.google.com> Dear Students I wanted to say congratulations to the 2017 Nfb 2017 Scholarship winners. I hope each of you have a great time at convention. From louvins at gmail.com Fri May 12 16:00:58 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 11:00:58 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I find it very interesting how many people on this list are either getting, or already have the touch from humanware. There is a braille note list for those who have the touch. If anyone would like I can give the subscription information for this list.

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On 5/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. > > On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >> I too would also prefer the smaller display. >> >> Judy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >> Productions via NABS-L >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Linson Productions >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >> >> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one device to >> carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I carried a standalone >> GPS >> unit my phone and a no taking device. Although it would be cool to see the >> new note Acres out in the market today, I believe for me having a braille >> display connected to my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying >> both devices as I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would >> probably purchase is smaller display for this reason. >> >> >> On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >>> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But >>> what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so >>> many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android >>> devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and >>> everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth >>> braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one >>> can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending >>> thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. I am saying all of this >>> from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had a chance to try >>> any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like some of them >>> aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while people say >>> they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >>> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille >>> notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? >>> This is a really interesting topic! >>> >>> IC >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information >>>> on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually >>>> receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good >>>> as I think it is. >>>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>> >>>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the >>>> Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I >>>> believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better >>>> off. >>>> >>>> Loren >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >>>> NABS-L >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>> Cc: Jen >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>> >>>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it >>>> because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in >>>> braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped >>>> working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >>>> >>>> Jen >>>> >>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>>> Pompey via NABS-L >>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>>> >>>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>>> >>>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>>> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if >>>> you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>>> >>>> >>>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>>> (336) 988-6375 >>>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>>> >>>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcg >>>> lobal.n >>>> et >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40media >>>> combb.n >>>> et >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >>>> il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gm >>>> ail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gm >>> ail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Fri May 12 16:04:17 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 12:04:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention roommate please help In-Reply-To: <22830BE3-F7EA-4391-B0A0-5B578C05F594@gmail.com> References: <03817D99-C530-4A01-98EF-5308084EF5CA@gmail.com> <22830BE3-F7EA-4391-B0A0-5B578C05F594@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the info. On 5/9/17, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Cricket, thanks for the information, but Shikha is an LCB graduate, so > her training is up to par, she is just looking for one last person with whom > she could split down the cost even more. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 9, 2017, at 21:37, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Shikha, >> >> I'm Cricket Bidleman. I had the honor and pleasure of speaking at >> Convention last year. Do feel free to message me off-list. >> >> Convention is a wonderfully fun, slightly crazy place. Since there are >> generally more than two thousand people in attendance, not taking into >> account hotel staff, it can be incredibly crowded. Canes and guide >> dogs are everywhere. There is no reason to be scared, however. >> Everyone is so accommodating and helpful. If you need an arm, someone >> will undoubtedly provide one. That's one of the things I love about >> the NFB--it's a huge, welcoming family. Don't be scared! It's truly a >> wonderful experience. >> >> The hotel we are going to has a lot of escalators. I don't know how >> much O&M training you've had in relation to those. I try not to assume >> such things, since my entire county only has one escalator that goes >> up... And none that go down. I'm being entirely serious. Welcome to >> farm country in California, folks! i imagine that you may have had >> some training, as even I have had a little exposure. Whether you have >> or not, I'm definitely going to recommend that you be really careful >> around escalators, especially if you're dressed up and in heels or >> whatever else. Always hold the banister thing on the side. You never >> know what might happen. You might get a cane tip in your shoe. I did >> last year on multiple occasions... Remind me not to wear sandals >> again. >> >> The hotel is kind of overwhelming... AT FIRST. note that I said "at >> first". It's sort of a maze. Read the document that Mrs. Jernigan >> wrote about navigating the hotel. It's a tad bit confusing, but you'll >> figure it out. I took the liberty of deliberately getting lost the >> first night I was at convention. This was technically the day before >> convention started, so there weren't as many people around. I don't >> recommend this technique for everyone, but it certainly helped me... >> Taking a solution-oriented approach as opposed to just focusing on >> each task as I had to do it was incredibly helpful. >> >> A note on the upstairs hallway in the convention center... It has >> pillars here and there. You want to be super careful of those. They do >> hurt. Also, there are lots of people shouting "(insert meeting name >> here) this way!" It's very helpful. >> >> What else? What else? ... ... The convention agenda will be coming out >> soon! I'm so excited for that. Last year, I opened it on the day it >> came out and read through it five times in the middle of AP Physics. >> Don't tell anyone. I was supposed to be working on a project. There >> are so many meetings, activities, etc. on that list. it's phenomenal. >> You're going to want to read all of it thoroughly. Don't plan to just >> go to one meeting in each time slot. Sometimes you'll run into a >> packed room or whatever else. When you go through the agenda, take >> note of all of the meetings that catch your attention. Try to go to >> them all if you can. I did... But then again, I was running around >> like a crazy person last year. >> >> You're definitely going to want to attend all of the general sessions, >> partially since nothing else is really open at that time, but mostly >> because it's fun. Try to attend the NFB board meeting too. I hear that >> it's going to be a great one. I don't remember how the room was set up >> for the board meeting, but for general sessions the room is divided >> into states. For example, the two or three rows in the very back will >> be for Wyoming, and the rows closer to the front will be California, >> Alaska, and Alabama etc. There are poles with signs on the left, as >> you walk up the center aisle. The state affiliate presidents will be >> sitting directly to the left of each of the signs. There are also >> microphones placed strategically throughout the room if you want to >> talk at the points that are appropriate. For example, when resolutions >> are being discussed on the afternoon of one of the days, you may wish >> to speak about one or more. In that case, you would walk up to the >> microphone nearest you... You might have to wait in a line though. >> >> Overall, Convention is hectic, busy, slightly crazy, but very >> wonderful. Try to do as much networking as you possibly can. You never >> know where your connections might take you. I got a job as a direct >> result of Convention last year, and I've become friends with >> phenomenal people. Make sure you can write down phone numbers and >> names and stuff like that. This year, I will have my BrailleNote Touch >> to take notes during presentations, when appropriate. Feel free to try >> and find me at convention. I'd love to chat with you. >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >>> On 5/9/17, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> I will be working at BISM this summer from june to August. I booked a >>> room >>> before i got the call from BISM. I am looking for one more female room >>> mate. >>> Please help so the room price will be less. >>> Also i got all A this summer. Also if anyone has worked at BISM during >>> the >>> summer can you please share your experience because i am excited and >>> scared. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Shikha. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Fri May 12 17:14:43 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 13:14:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention roommate please help In-Reply-To: References: <03817D99-C530-4A01-98EF-5308084EF5CA@gmail.com> <22830BE3-F7EA-4391-B0A0-5B578C05F594@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601d2cb43$3ff5dad0$bfe19070$@gmail.com> Yeah, thanks Joshua! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From desai1shikha at gmail.com Fri May 12 18:00:37 2017 From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 14:00:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] National convention roommate please help In-Reply-To: <000601d2cb43$3ff5dad0$bfe19070$@gmail.com> References: <03817D99-C530-4A01-98EF-5308084EF5CA@gmail.com> <22830BE3-F7EA-4391-B0A0-5B578C05F594@gmail.com> <000601d2cb43$3ff5dad0$bfe19070$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CE6DC53-B7A0-4357-8F9B-39E0AA565FD0@gmail.com> Thanks everyone for your help. I am excited for convention because I have never been to this hotel. I will be canceling the room that i booked before getting the summer internship at BISM. Shikha. > On May 12, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > > Yeah, thanks Joshua! > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com From ALewis at nfb.org Fri May 12 18:30:26 2017 From: ALewis at nfb.org (Lewis, Anil) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 18:30:26 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Youth Slam! Last Call! 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From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Fri May 12 19:04:56 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 14:04:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] National Convention Sneak Peak Message-ID: Students! This year NABS is excitedly hosting a week full of celebrations and events in honor of our 50th anniversary. On May 28th at 8PM eastern, we got 4 people on the planning committee to give us a sneak peak of what they have in store. Already bought your tickets or on the fence, join us to get a first look at the festivities and workshops. The call in number is (712)770-5197 and the access code is 265669. Stay tuned. —Syed Rizvi From alpineimagination at gmail.com Fri May 12 22:32:36 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 15:32:36 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] UEB Braille Certification Message-ID: <59163835.120a620a.a007f.282e@mx.google.com> Hi Cricket, Yes, it's the certification for transcription. I found the link and have applied. Thanks for your help, Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L" wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if any of you know of any online courses where I can receive my UEB certification? Thanks, Vejas _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidlem an%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina tion%40gmail.com From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com Fri May 12 23:08:58 2017 From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (Nesma Aly) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 19:08:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] AIM High? Message-ID: <043701d2cb74$bd0ce730$3726b590$@gmail.com> Hi all, I have an assignment in English that requires me to give some info on the AIM High act. So, my first question is What is the issue that the bill is trying to address in details? 2 what percentage of college students are blind? What is the dropout rate? Have there been any court cases about blind people trying to gain accessibility? 3. What solutions are given in the legislation to address the issue? Thanks, Nesma From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com Fri May 12 23:53:23 2017 From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 18:53:23 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] AIM High? In-Reply-To: <043701d2cb74$bd0ce730$3726b590$@gmail.com> References: <043701d2cb74$bd0ce730$3726b590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I highly doubt that in today's society, there are blind dropouts, that act is addressing that there are specific guidelines towards universities to keep them in line when it comes to accessibility issues across all online platforms and situations, and congress and us are working on getting this bill in to an official law to be in affect, that way we could finally have a more equal college and work life as equal individuals. Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2017, at 18:08, Nesma Aly via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have an assignment in English that requires me to give some info on the > AIM High act. > > So, my first question is What is the issue that the bill is trying to > address in details? > > 2 what percentage of college students are blind? What is the dropout rate? > Have there been any court cases about blind people trying to gain > accessibility? > > 3. What solutions are given in the legislation to address the issue? > > Thanks, > > Nesma > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com From blackbyrdfly at gmail.com Sat May 13 01:25:02 2017 From: blackbyrdfly at gmail.com (Jamie P.) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 19:25:02 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] AIM High? In-Reply-To: References: <043701d2cb74$bd0ce730$3726b590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: There are absolutely blind dropouts. I am not one myself, but I know quite a few personally and have heard stories of others. We still have a long, long way to go. That being said, I don't have a percentage. I don't think such data is being gathered by any authoritative entity. Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2017, at 17:53, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L wrote: > > I highly doubt that in today's society, there are blind dropouts, that act is addressing that there are specific guidelines towards universities to keep them in line when it comes to accessibility issues across all online platforms and situations, and congress and us are working on getting this bill in to an official law to be in affect, that way we could finally have a more equal college and work life as equal individuals. Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2017, at 18:08, Nesma Aly via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I have an assignment in English that requires me to give some info on the >> AIM High act. >> >> So, my first question is What is the issue that the bill is trying to >> address in details? >> >> 2 what percentage of college students are blind? What is the dropout rate? >> Have there been any court cases about blind people trying to gain >> accessibility? >> >> 3. What solutions are given in the legislation to address the issue? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nesma >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat May 13 01:40:08 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 21:40:08 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] AIM High? In-Reply-To: References: <043701d2cb74$bd0ce730$3726b590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <030b01d2cb89$db252b50$916f81f0$@gmail.com> I've met several. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie P. via NABS-L Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:25 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Jamie P. Subject: Re: [nabs-l] AIM High? There are absolutely blind dropouts. I am not one myself, but I know quite a few personally and have heard stories of others. We still have a long, long way to go. That being said, I don't have a percentage. I don't think such data is being gathered by any authoritative entity. Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2017, at 17:53, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L wrote: > > I highly doubt that in today's society, there are blind dropouts, that > act is addressing that there are specific guidelines towards > universities to keep them in line when it comes to accessibility > issues across all online platforms and situations, and congress and us > are working on getting this bill in to an official law to be in > affect, that way we could finally have a more equal college and work > life as equal individuals. Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2017, at 18:08, Nesma Aly via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I have an assignment in English that requires me to give some info on >> the AIM High act. >> >> So, my first question is What is the issue that the bill is trying to >> address in details? >> >> 2 what percentage of college students are blind? What is the dropout rate? >> Have there been any court cases about blind people trying to gain >> accessibility? >> >> 3. What solutions are given in the legislation to address the issue? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nesma >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail. >> com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gma > il.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From redwing731 at gmail.com Sat May 13 01:49:49 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 18:49:49 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] AIM High? In-Reply-To: References: <043701d2cb74$bd0ce730$3726b590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1CA05CE5-18FC-4443-80EF-6F82DD8EA96A@gmail.com> Hi all! When I attended the Oregon School for the Blind, we had a blind student in my transition class who dropped out. They just stopped going to class one day. I don't know much about why the drop out but that's what happened. No, I'm not that student!!! Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone Se. > On May 12, 2017, at 18:25, Jamie P. via NABS-L wrote: > > There are absolutely blind dropouts. I am not one myself, but I know quite a few personally and have heard stories of others. We still have a long, long way to go. > > That being said, I don't have a percentage. I don't think such data is being gathered by any authoritative entity. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2017, at 17:53, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I highly doubt that in today's society, there are blind dropouts, that act is addressing that there are specific guidelines towards universities to keep them in line when it comes to accessibility issues across all online platforms and situations, and congress and us are working on getting this bill in to an official law to be in affect, that way we could finally have a more equal college and work life as equal individuals. Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 12, 2017, at 18:08, Nesma Aly via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have an assignment in English that requires me to give some info on the >>> AIM High act. >>> >>> So, my first question is What is the issue that the bill is trying to >>> address in details? >>> >>> 2 what percentage of college students are blind? What is the dropout rate? >>> Have there been any court cases about blind people trying to gain >>> accessibility? >>> >>> 3. What solutions are given in the legislation to address the issue? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Nesma >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com From redwing731 at gmail.com Sat May 13 01:55:14 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 18:55:14 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Herbelists? Message-ID: <17E4D970-1D27-48B7-B3CA-6AF45140E4E5@gmail.com> Hi all! I'm looking for a blind herbelist to contact. I'm looking into studdying herbelism myself and I'd like to pick the brain of one to learn more about what it's like for a blind herbelist. I got wind of one on the hortorculture list but they have gone into the woodwork and I never got wind that they came back out of the woodwork. Does anyone know of a blind herbelist that I could contact? Thank you!!! Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone Se. From shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com Sat May 13 17:48:44 2017 From: shannoncantan.nfb at gmail.com (Shannon Cantan) Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 07:48:44 -1000 Subject: [nabs-l] 50th Anniversary Committee Message-ID: <2D78D633-D24D-4A37-87B6-153069E0B427@gmail.com> Aloha students, I hope finals are done, and you are gearing up for a fun and eventful Summer. Part of this Summer will of course include National Convention where the festivities will be memorable. Naturally, in making our events run smoothly we will need your help!, the 50th Anniversary Committee will be meeting tomorrow, Sunday May 14 at 9PM Eastern. We will discuss everything NABS 50th Anniversary, so please join us with your ideas. The new conference number is (712) 770-5197 Access code 265669 Mahalo, and I will see you tomorrow. Shannon KS Cantan From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sat May 13 18:45:05 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 14:45:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? In-Reply-To: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> References: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Emma, There are ways to travel in a power chair and a cane. Not sure how although I know people have longer canes to compensate for where their hand is. Best way to find out is to talk to a chair user with a cane. I think the NFB has a blind rollers list or division you could contact. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Emma Mitchell via NABS-L Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Emma Mitchell Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? is there anyway to travel in power chair if you have your travel cane to guide you? can you still use a power chair without sight? _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sat May 13 19:07:42 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 15:07:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Honors research In-Reply-To: <40F9B6D4-42DB-4099-8531-49422B7C27A9@gmail.com> References: <40F9B6D4-42DB-4099-8531-49422B7C27A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51CF18CD7A3B4C7C8BFCE3EAB290CA2B@OwnerPC> Hi Emma, I like your research project and please keep us updated. I wish I could help in funding. I am surprised though you don't need a reader. In my experience, OCR software makes too many mistakes as I scan print stuff to be effective; also, it messes up page numbering which I need for citations. Even if the copy is fairly clean, I often end up scanning the wrong chapter. Using my reader, she can skim for info and read exerpts of chapters as needed. If scanning, I approach it by identifying a section or chapter to scan based on the table of contents. Then a sighted person tells me the page number and I mark that with a paper clip or something. Then I can scan it. I'd like to do some research for fun to learn about history but would need a reader for free to do it and do not have that. I've dreamed of reading primary sources like diaries as you will be doing. I'm interested in composers' lives and would like to read the journals or letters of Beethoven, Mozart, or someone more recent like John Philip Sousa. Again, good luck! Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Emma Mitchell via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 12:03 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Emma Mitchell Subject: [nabs-l] Honors research Hey, everyone My project was selected to receive funding from my university however since it takes a lot of money to travel I could use some help by any donations possible. The project is below— The Fates of Blind People in Nazi Germany Statement of Purpose: I have an opportunity to spend the summer in Germany at the University of Köln to study the impact of Nazi T4 on blind German adults and children. My parents, who are GW faculty members, have received a grant to live, lecture, and make a documentary film on the T4 program and contemporary memorialization efforts. The research will involve travel to all six T4 Euthanasia Memorial Centers (Brandenburg, Grafeneck, Bernburg, Sonnenstein-Pirna, Hadamar, and Hartheim Castle) as well as to two T4 memorial sites outside of Germany (Vienna, Austria and Posnen, Poland). All of the memorial centres include an archive with research materials related to that particular site as well as medical records of the 300,000+ disabled killed. In these records is where I will look up the individual stories of blind people caught up in the T4 killing program. Using optical character recognition software that allows my phone to scan paper documents, graphs, and charts (can't do photos) I will gain access to this unique collection of research materials in order to pursue my topic. One important thing about T4 is that the staff and killing technology was later transferred to Holocaust death camps. Thus, T4 was the precursor to the mass murder of 6 million Jewish people (mostly Eastern European not German). The memorial sites that, in some cases, still house the original death apparatus (gas chamber, observation window, autopsy room, and crematoria) are also on the campuses of operating psychiatric hospitals and prisons. Whereas the killing of "psychiatric patients" would seem to include only those with mental impairments, people with physical and sensory impairments were also killed because eugenics attempted to rid the nation of disabled people as excessively burdensome. As a young woman who is blind and also has a physical disability, I would have been included in those groups identified as "unworthy of life." Therefore the opportunity to study T4 has significant meaning to my research in that we must resist the urge to artificially separate the past from the present. Today across Europe and the United States we see many potential harms to disabled peoples' well being on the horizon including: repeal of the Affordable Care Act which provides healthcare for a large percentage of disabled people (including myself), the passage of Assisted Suicide Laws, the lowering of the age limit for assisted suicide requests, the alarming escalation of the number of disabled women in prison, public education's increasing participation in the pipeline to prison program for students with autism and other behavioral disabilities, and the raiding of healthcare coffers in the name of austerity cut backs to balance beleaguered state budgets. I have written on the T4 program for my Introduction to Critical Theory class and on Marxist analyses of disabled people excluded form the workforce for my Literature in the Financial Imagination class this semester. Thus, the opportunity to live in Germany will significantly enhance my developing research interests in this area. While in Germany I will participate in the making of a feature length documentary film on T4 and contemporary memorialization being made by my family that records our many visits to Euthanasia Memorial Centers over the past two decades. Research Questions and Methodology My primary goal while researching in Germany this summer will be to create a history of blind peoples’ fates during World War II under National Socialism (Nazi authoritarianism). We know that many blind people were killed in the medical mass murder campaign known as the T4 program because all T4 researchers identify blindness as a category of selection (Robert Lifton, Henry Friedlander, Götz Aly, for example). We also know that blind Jewish people were killed in the Holocaust because blindness was one of the conditions selected out at the train spurs by Nazi physicians and SS officers for immediate gassing. Sometimes people with visual impairments slipped through this initial selection process and worked under conditions of forced labor in the camps. For instance, in Martin Sherman’s play, Bent, the character of Rudy is killed because he has poor vision after living and laboring for a time in a Jewish concentration camp outside of Berlin (likely a camp similar to Sachsenhausen). Significant to my interests is the fact that I have visited one German memorial, Otto Weidt’s Blind Workshop, where blind people made brooms and brushes during World War II on Rosenthaler Strasse in Berlin. Since the factory owner, Otto Weidt (who had a visual impairment himself), was able to keep blind and deaf people from T4 and concentration camp deportations until 1943, I want to research how other blind people might have been employed during this period and whether employment served as a buffer against extermination? There are also specific questions about blind peoples’ fate that are not fully answered in the existing literature. For instance, T4 began by killing disabled infants and young children and current research identifies blindness as a condition that was used to select disabled adults in the adult killing program. Thus, were blind children targeted as well as adults in the T4 program? In other words, was blindness considered a severe enough disability to get children caught up in the T4 net or was blindness only operative in the adult killing phase? One of the research rationale offered up for the relationship between T4 and “the final solution” is that T4 physicians went to Jewish concentration camps and selected ill and disabled Jewish people for death at the T4 killing centers before the program was stopped in late 1942. This transitional program of mass murder is referred to as the 14f13 program. Was blindness a criteria for selecting disabled Jewish people for killing during this period between T4 and the larger Holocaust? To answer this question I will read the personal diaries of the 14f13 physicians contained in the memorial archives. There are also questions relating to contemporary memorialization efforts about the victims of the T4 program. If blindness was a key criteria used for selection, why is there only one memorial site devote to blind people who killed by the Nazis and what does that tell us about contemporary modes of memorialization? Should T4-related memorials be based on single disability categories – such as blindness – and what can we learn about T4 by focusing on such particular disability experiences? Also, is there a danger in focusing the memorialization effort so tightly? Future presentation and/or publication of the result sof this hands-on research experience might develop into my honors thesis at GW. The deaf history researcher, Horst Biesold, wrote a book on the fate of deaf people in Nazi Germany titled, Crying Hands: Eugenics and Deaf People in Nazi Germany. Perhaps this depth of research experience might well allow a more extended study of blind people in a similar vein. I am certain that the NFB would be greatly interested in any research outcomes from this project and that I could present them at their annual convention. Please share and spread the word. The website is below: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/disposable-humanity#/ Thank you for your time, Emma Jane Mitchell _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From misokwak12 at gmail.com Sun May 14 02:51:08 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 19:51:08 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you for an informative thread. I am looking to transition my Braille device as well. I have Apex that is about 4 years old and have been considering BN touch but Polaris sounds great! Does anyone know what languages are supported specifically on these devices (i.e., BN Touch and Polaris)? Also, how is Hims' tech support in the U.S.? Miso Kwak On 5/12/17, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: > I find it very interesting how many people on this list are either > getting, or already have the touch from humanware. There is a braille > note list for those who have the touch. If anyone would like I can > give the subscription information for this list. > > On 5/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. >> >> On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >>> I too would also prefer the smaller display. >>> >>> Judy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >>> Productions via NABS-L >>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Linson Productions >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>> >>> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one device to >>> carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I carried a standalone >>> GPS >>> unit my phone and a no taking device. Although it would be cool to see >>> the >>> new note Acres out in the market today, I believe for me having a braille >>> display connected to my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying >>> both devices as I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would >>> probably purchase is smaller display for this reason. >>> >>> >>> On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >>>> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… But >>>> what's the point of buying one of them when these days there are so >>>> many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and android >>>> devices can be used by blind people, including phones, tablets, and >>>> everything in between. There are also Bluetooth keyboards, Bluetooth >>>> braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille displays available that one >>>> can connect to these devices, so it's hard for me to justify spending >>>> thousands of dollars on a braille notetaker. I am saying all of this >>>> from a theoretical point of you, since I haven't had a chance to try >>>> any of the notetakers currently available. It seems like some of them >>>> aren't compatible with all websites, everyone's in a while people say >>>> they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >>>> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a braille >>>> notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? >>>> This is a really interesting topic! >>>> >>>> IC >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for information >>>>> on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm actually >>>>> receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's gonna be as >>>>> good >>>>> as I think it is. >>>>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>>>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>>>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>>>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, the >>>>> Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. So I >>>>> believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be much better >>>>> off. >>>>> >>>>> Loren >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via >>>>> NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>> Cc: Jen >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved it >>>>> because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly in >>>>> braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display stopped >>>>> working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Jen >>>>> >>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>>>> Pompey via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>>>> >>>>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>>>> >>>>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>>>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful if >>>>> you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>>>> (336) 988-6375 >>>>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>>>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcg >>>>> lobal.n >>>>> et >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40media >>>>> combb.n >>>>> et >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gma >>>>> il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gm >>>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gm >>>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 14 03:17:16 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 21:17:16 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d101d2cc60$96ecbe30$c4c63a90$@gmail.com> I am holding out for the mini 18 cell that will be coming out later in the year. I like the smaller devices. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 8:51 PM To: louvins at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Thank you for an informative thread. I am looking to transition my Braille device as well. I have Apex that is about 4 years old and have been considering BN touch but Polaris sounds great! Does anyone know what languages are supported specifically on these devices (i.e., BN Touch and Polaris)? Also, how is Hims' tech support in the U.S.? Miso Kwak On 5/12/17, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: > I find it very interesting how many people on this list are either > getting, or already have the touch from humanware. There is a braille > note list for those who have the touch. If anyone would like I can > give the subscription information for this list. > > On 5/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. >> >> On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >>> I too would also prefer the smaller display. >>> >>> Judy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >>> Productions via NABS-L >>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Linson Productions >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>> >>> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one >>> device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I >>> carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. >>> Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the >>> market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to >>> my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as >>> I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably >>> purchase is smaller display for this reason. >>> >>> >>> On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >>>> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… >>>> But what's the point of buying one of them when these days there >>>> are so many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and >>>> android devices can be used by blind people, including phones, >>>> tablets, and everything in between. There are also Bluetooth >>>> keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille >>>> displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's >>>> hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille >>>> notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, >>>> since I haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently >>>> available. It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all >>>> websites, everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >>>> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a >>>> braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? >>>> This is a really interesting topic! >>>> >>>> IC >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for >>>>> information on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm >>>>> actually receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's >>>>> gonna be as good as I think it is. >>>>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>>>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>>>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>>>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, >>>>> the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. >>>>> So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be >>>>> much better off. >>>>> >>>>> Loren >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen >>>>> via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>> Cc: Jen >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved >>>>> it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly >>>>> in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display >>>>> stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Jen >>>>> >>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>>>> Pompey via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>>>> >>>>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>>>> >>>>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>>>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful >>>>> if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>>>> (336) 988-6375 >>>>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>>>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40s >>>>> bcg >>>>> lobal.n >>>>> et >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40me >>>>> dia >>>>> combb.n >>>>> et >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40 >>>>> gma >>>>> il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%4 >>>>> 0gm >>>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%4 >>>> 0gm >>>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.c >> om >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Sun May 14 13:19:51 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 09:19:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <00d101d2cc60$96ecbe30$c4c63a90$@gmail.com> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> <00d101d2cc60$96ecbe30$c4c63a90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I like larger devices because they have more celli. On 5/13/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > I am holding out for the mini 18 cell that will be coming out later in the > year. I like the smaller devices. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 8:51 PM > To: louvins at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Thank you for an informative thread. I am looking to transition my Braille > device as well. I have Apex that is about 4 years old and have been > considering BN touch but Polaris sounds great! > > Does anyone know what languages are supported specifically on these devices > (i.e., BN Touch and Polaris)? > Also, how is Hims' tech support in the U.S.? > > Miso Kwak > > On 5/12/17, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: >> I find it very interesting how many people on this list are either >> getting, or already have the touch from humanware. There is a braille >> note list for those who have the touch. If anyone would like I can >> give the subscription information for this list. >> >> On 5/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>> I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. >>> >>> On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >>>> I too would also prefer the smaller display. >>>> >>>> Judy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >>>> Productions via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Linson Productions >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>> >>>> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one >>>> device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I >>>> carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. >>>> Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the >>>> market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to >>>> my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as >>>> I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably >>>> purchase is smaller display for this reason. >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >>>>> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… >>>>> But what's the point of buying one of them when these days there >>>>> are so many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and >>>>> android devices can be used by blind people, including phones, >>>>> tablets, and everything in between. There are also Bluetooth >>>>> keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille >>>>> displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's >>>>> hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille >>>>> notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, >>>>> since I haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently >>>>> available. It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all >>>>> websites, everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening >>>>> some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >>>>> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a >>>>> braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS >>>>> device? >>>>> This is a really interesting topic! >>>>> >>>>> IC >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for >>>>>> information on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm >>>>>> actually receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's >>>>>> gonna be as good as I think it is. >>>>>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>>>>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>>>>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>>>>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, >>>>>> the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. >>>>>> So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be >>>>>> much better off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Loren >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen >>>>>> via NABS-L >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>>> Cc: Jen >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved >>>>>> it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly >>>>>> in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display >>>>>> stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT >>>>>> anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jen >>>>>> >>>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>>>>> Pompey via NABS-L >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>>>>> >>>>>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>>>>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful >>>>>> if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of >>>>>> others. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>>>>> (336) 988-6375 >>>>>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>>>>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40s >>>>>> bcg >>>>>> lobal.n >>>>>> et >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40me >>>>>> dia >>>>>> combb.n >>>>>> et >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 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_______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.c >>> om >>> >> >> >> -- >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >> .com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sun May 14 21:10:56 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 17:10:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net><011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com><64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com><15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com><000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com><00d101d2cc60$96ecbe30$c4c63a90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7C064B9C55F64AD685AD7AD2E7CAB45E@OwnerPC> I'm with you Alley. I prefer larger devices because I have a larger display to read from. More cells means I can read more at a time! -----Original Message----- From: Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:19 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Alexandra Alfonso Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers I like larger devices because they have more celli. On 5/13/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > I am holding out for the mini 18 cell that will be coming out later in the > year. I like the smaller devices. > > Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 8:51 PM > To: louvins at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Thank you for an informative thread. I am looking to transition my Braille > device as well. I have Apex that is about 4 years old and have been > considering BN touch but Polaris sounds great! > > Does anyone know what languages are supported specifically on these > devices > (i.e., BN Touch and Polaris)? > Also, how is Hims' tech support in the U.S.? > > Miso Kwak > > On 5/12/17, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: >> I find it very interesting how many people on this list are either >> getting, or already have the touch from humanware. There is a braille >> note list for those who have the touch. If anyone would like I can >> give the subscription information for this list. >> >> On 5/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>> I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. >>> >>> On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >>>> I too would also prefer the smaller display. >>>> >>>> Judy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >>>> Productions via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Linson Productions >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>> >>>> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one >>>> device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I >>>> carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. >>>> Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the >>>> market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to >>>> my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as >>>> I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably >>>> purchase is smaller display for this reason. >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >>>>> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… >>>>> But what's the point of buying one of them when these days there >>>>> are so many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and >>>>> android devices can be used by blind people, including phones, >>>>> tablets, and everything in between. There are also Bluetooth >>>>> keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille >>>>> displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's >>>>> hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille >>>>> notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, >>>>> since I haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently >>>>> available. It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all >>>>> websites, everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening >>>>> some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >>>>> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a >>>>> braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS >>>>> device? >>>>> This is a really interesting topic! >>>>> >>>>> IC >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for >>>>>> information on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm >>>>>> actually receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's >>>>>> gonna be as good as I think it is. >>>>>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>>>>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>>>>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>>>>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, >>>>>> the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. >>>>>> So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be >>>>>> much better off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Loren >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen >>>>>> via NABS-L >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>>> Cc: Jen >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved >>>>>> it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly >>>>>> in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display >>>>>> stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT >>>>>> anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jen >>>>>> >>>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>>>>> Pompey via NABS-L >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>>>>> >>>>>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>>>>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful >>>>>> if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of >>>>>> others. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>>>>> (336) 988-6375 >>>>>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>>>>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40s >>>>>> bcg >>>>>> lobal.n >>>>>> et >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40me >>>>>> dia >>>>>> combb.n >>>>>> et >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40 >>>>>> gma >>>>>> il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%4 >>>>>> 0gm >>>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org 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_______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.c >>> om >>> >> >> >> -- >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >> .com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From theweird1 at mediacombb.net Sun May 14 21:58:41 2017 From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield) Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 16:58:41 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: 9jdido8MedX4r9jdjdJ19z References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> 9jdido8MedX4r9jdjdJ19z Message-ID: <000f01d2ccfd$4079ec10$c16dc430$@mediacombb.net> My apex is over six years old and is showing signs of age. I use it quite extensively. But, as I stated before, finances are a huge issue at the moment. Loren -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 9:51 PM To: louvins at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers Thank you for an informative thread. I am looking to transition my Braille device as well. I have Apex that is about 4 years old and have been considering BN touch but Polaris sounds great! Does anyone know what languages are supported specifically on these devices (i.e., BN Touch and Polaris)? Also, how is Hims' tech support in the U.S.? Miso Kwak On 5/12/17, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: > I find it very interesting how many people on this list are either > getting, or already have the touch from humanware. There is a braille > note list for those who have the touch. If anyone would like I can > give the subscription information for this list. > > On 5/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. >> >> On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >>> I too would also prefer the smaller display. >>> >>> Judy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >>> Productions via NABS-L >>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Linson Productions >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>> >>> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one >>> device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I >>> carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. >>> Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the >>> market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to >>> my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as >>> I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably >>> purchase is smaller display for this reason. >>> >>> >>> On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >>>> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… >>>> But what's the point of buying one of them when these days there >>>> are so many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and >>>> android devices can be used by blind people, including phones, >>>> tablets, and everything in between. There are also Bluetooth >>>> keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille >>>> displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's >>>> hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille >>>> notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, >>>> since I haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently >>>> available. It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all >>>> websites, everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >>>> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a >>>> braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS device? >>>> This is a really interesting topic! >>>> >>>> IC >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for >>>>> information on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm >>>>> actually receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's >>>>> gonna be as good as I think it is. >>>>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>>>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>>>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>>>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, >>>>> the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. >>>>> So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be >>>>> much better off. >>>>> >>>>> Loren >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen >>>>> via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>> Cc: Jen >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved >>>>> it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly >>>>> in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display >>>>> stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Jen >>>>> >>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>>>> Pompey via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>>>> >>>>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>>>> >>>>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>>>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful >>>>> if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of others. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>>>> (336) 988-6375 >>>>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>>>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40s >>>>> bcg >>>>> lobal.n >>>>> et >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40me >>>>> dia >>>>> combb.n >>>>> et >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40 >>>>> gma >>>>> il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%4 >>>>> 0gm >>>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%4 >>>> 0gm >>>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.c >> om >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.net From louvins at gmail.com Sun May 14 23:51:18 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:51:18 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers In-Reply-To: <000f01d2ccfd$4079ec10$c16dc430$@mediacombb.net> References: <011d01d2ca61$69a8e300$3cfaa900$@mediacombb.net> <011201d2ca67$4f363300$eda29900$@gmail.com> <64E69395-7764-4289-A62C-73C41E009B3B@gmail.com> <15bf889cc40.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <000001d2cac9$1a97d100$4fc77300$@gmail.com> <000f01d2ccfd$4079ec10$c16dc430$@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: I agree. I'd say finances are an issue for lots of blind people. If it hadn't been for some very interesting circumstances I wouldn't have been able to buy the touch that I wanted. The apex is a very nice device as well.

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On 5/14/17, Loren Wakefield wrote: > My apex is over six years old and is showing signs of age. I use it quite > extensively. But, as I stated before, finances are a huge issue at the > moment. > > Loren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 9:51 PM > To: louvins at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers > > Thank you for an informative thread. I am looking to transition my Braille > device as well. I have Apex that is about 4 years old and have been > considering BN touch but Polaris sounds great! > > Does anyone know what languages are supported specifically on these devices > (i.e., BN Touch and Polaris)? > Also, how is Hims' tech support in the U.S.? > > Miso Kwak > > On 5/12/17, Joshua Hendrickson via NABS-L wrote: >> I find it very interesting how many people on this list are either >> getting, or already have the touch from humanware. There is a braille >> note list for those who have the touch. If anyone would like I can >> give the subscription information for this list. >> >> On 5/12/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>> I am getting a touch and I like large displays. Sge polaris sounds cool. >>> >>> On 5/11/17, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >>>> I too would also prefer the smaller display. >>>> >>>> Judy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >>>> Productions via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:24 AM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>>> Cc: Linson Productions >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>> >>>> The advantage of a note-taking device in this era is having one >>>> device to carry around. It's not like in the nineties where I >>>> carried a standalone GPS unit my phone and a no taking device. >>>> Although it would be cool to see the new note Acres out in the >>>> market today, I believe for me having a braille display connected to >>>> my devices is enough. I'm not worried about carrying both devices as >>>> I have to carry my phone and my came anyways. I would probably >>>> purchase is smaller display for this reason. >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 11, 2017 11:45:55 AM Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> I want to make it clear that I am asking this out of ignorance, and >>>>> not because I have anything against special braille notetaker's… >>>>> But what's the point of buying one of them when these days there >>>>> are so many mainstream devices that are accessible? Both iOS and >>>>> android devices can be used by blind people, including phones, >>>>> tablets, and everything in between. There are also Bluetooth >>>>> keyboards, Bluetooth braille keyboards, and Bluetooth braille >>>>> displays available that one can connect to these devices, so it's >>>>> hard for me to justify spending thousands of dollars on a braille >>>>> notetaker. I am saying all of this from a theoretical point of you, >>>>> since I haven't had a chance to try any of the notetakers currently >>>>> available. It seems like some of them aren't compatible with all >>>>> websites, everyone's in a while people say they have trouble opening >>>>> some kinds of attachments with them, etc. >>>>> etc. But what are the advantages? For those of you who use a >>>>> braille notetaker why do you prefer it over a regular laptop or iOS >>>>> device? >>>>> This is a really interesting topic! >>>>> >>>>> IC >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 11 May 2017, at 17:00, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is awesome info guys! I've honestly been looking for >>>>>> information on braille displays and notetakers for a while, I'm >>>>>> actually receiving a BN Touch in a few weeks and I'm hoping it's >>>>>> gonna be as good as I think it is. >>>>>> I beta-tested it actually before it was officially released, and >>>>>> although it did have some issues, overall it was great. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loren >>>>>> Wakefield via NABS-L >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:18 AM >>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>>> Cc: Loren Wakefield >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> That is a problem with these over-priced devices. My Apex from >>>>>> humanware is a heavily-used item that is on its last legs. So, >>>>>> the Polaris sounds intriguing; however, it is expensive as well. >>>>>> So I believe I will pair a braille display with an IPone and be >>>>>> much better off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Loren >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen >>>>>> via NABS-L >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:16 PM >>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >>>>>> Cc: Jen >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a BrailleNote BT; the Lions Club bought it for me. I loved >>>>>> it because it had a braille keyboard, and I type the most quickly >>>>>> in braille. I say "had" because a cell on the braille display >>>>>> stopped working, and HumanWare doesn't make the BrailleNote BT >>>>>> anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jen >>>>>> >>>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bobbi >>>>>> Pompey via NABS-L >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:19 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> To: Karl Martin Adam via Nabs-L >>>>>> >>>>>> Cc: Bobbi Pompey >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Displays and Notetakers >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am in the market for a braille device. I would love to know what >>>>>> devices you all own or have owned. It would be especially helpful >>>>>> if you would share why you selected the device you own, instead of >>>>>> others. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing your responses! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bobbi A. L. Pompey >>>>>> (336) 988-6375 >>>>>> bobbipompey at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed >>>>>> until it is faced" James Baldwin >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40s >>>>>> bcg >>>>>> lobal.n >>>>>> et >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40me >>>>>> dia >>>>>> combb.n >>>>>> et >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40 >>>>>> gma >>>>>> il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%4 >>>>>> 0gm >>>>>> ail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%4 >>>>> 0gm >>>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.c >>> om >>> >> >> >> -- >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> Joshua Hendrickson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >> .com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/theweird1%40mediacombb.net > > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From lucysirianni at gmail.com Sun May 14 23:54:03 2017 From: lucysirianni at gmail.com (Lucy Sirianni) Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 16:54:03 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem Message-ID: <5918ee22.049d630a.b4d33.a3c4@mx.google.com> Hi all, I'm a new BrailleNote Touch user (still much more familiar with the Apex), and I'm hoping someone here can help me with a problem I'm currently having with my Braille display. I was using the unit earlier today with no problem, but then it ran out of battery power, and when I restarted it after plugging it in, the Braille dots not in use were all slightly raised (not quite as much as when the BrailleNote is turned off, but almost). Is there something I can do to fix this? Thanks! Lucy Lucy Sirianni Doctoral Candidate and Graduate Student Instructor, Department of English, University of California, Berkeley Vice President of Inclusive Excellence and Social Action, Lydia Maria Child Society From GCazares at nfb.org Mon May 15 00:01:23 2017 From: GCazares at nfb.org (Cazares, Gabe) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 00:01:23 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] AIM High? In-Reply-To: <1CA05CE5-18FC-4443-80EF-6F82DD8EA96A@gmail.com> References: <043701d2cb74$bd0ce730$3726b590$@gmail.com> <1CA05CE5-18FC-4443-80EF-6F82DD8EA96A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Howdy Nabsters, Nesma, thank you for sparking this discussion! The AIM HIGH Act seeks to address the issue of digital accessibility, or better yet, the lack there of at institutions of higher education in the U.S. As technology becomes more integrated in college classrooms, oftentimes the very technology that has the potential of leveling the playing field for blind and other students with print disabilities, is leaving us behind. Why? Because developers and manufacturers of these educational technologies lack the technical criteria necessary to guide them in the production of mainstream accessible technologies. Likewise, schools often don't know what to demand of the marketplace to ensure that the products they are purchasing are accessible to blind students. Our bill seeks to tackle this problem by constituting a purpose-based commission that will be responsible for producing voluntary accessibility guidelines both the tech and higher education communities can use to ensure that the products they are producing/purchasing are fully accessible to students with disabilities. In addition, the bill tasks the commission with developing an annotated list of existing national and international accessibility IT standards, so institutions of higher education know how they can apply them to the higher ed setting. For a list of court cases on this issue, I highly encourage you to check out the "Landmark Decisions" section of our Self-Advocacy in Higher Education Toolkit. (https://nfb.org/self-advocacy-higher-education) I also encourage you to refer to our AIM HIGH Act fact sheet and frequently asked questions, you can find both on our AIM HIGH Act website. (https://www.nfb.org/aim_high) I hope this information is useful! Thanks, ...Gabe Gabe Cazares Government Affairs Specialist 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2206 | gcazares at nfb.org Twitter: @gmcazares                                   The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kendra Schaber via NABS-L Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:50 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kendra Schaber Subject: Re: [nabs-l] AIM High? Hi all! When I attended the Oregon School for the Blind, we had a blind student in my transition class who dropped out. They just stopped going to class one day. I don't know much about why the drop out but that's what happened. No, I'm not that student!!! Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone Se. > On May 12, 2017, at 18:25, Jamie P. via NABS-L wrote: > > There are absolutely blind dropouts. I am not one myself, but I know quite a few personally and have heard stories of others. We still have a long, long way to go. > > That being said, I don't have a percentage. I don't think such data is being gathered by any authoritative entity. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2017, at 17:53, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I highly doubt that in today's society, there are blind dropouts, >> that act is addressing that there are specific guidelines towards >> universities to keep them in line when it comes to accessibility >> issues across all online platforms and situations, and congress and >> us are working on getting this bill in to an official law to be in >> affect, that way we could finally have a more equal college and work >> life as equal individuals. Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 12, 2017, at 18:08, Nesma Aly via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have an assignment in English that requires me to give some info >>> on the AIM High act. >>> >>> So, my first question is What is the issue that the bill is trying >>> to address in details? >>> >>> 2 what percentage of college students are blind? What is the dropout rate? >>> Have there been any court cases about blind people trying to gain >>> accessibility? >>> >>> 3. 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From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Mon May 15 00:25:29 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 20:25:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem In-Reply-To: <5918ee22.049d630a.b4d33.a3c4@mx.google.com> References: <5918ee22.049d630a.b4d33.a3c4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000001d2cd11$c2f5c330$48e14990$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Lucy, I never had a BrailleNote Touch but did have a BrailleNote BT. My BrailleNote BT acted the same way when it ran out of battery life. The braille dots being this way after you plug the unit in is by design. If you turn the machine on after the battery is at 100 percent, the braille display will come back. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:54 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Lucy Sirianni Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem Hi all, I'm a new BrailleNote Touch user (still much more familiar with the Apex), and I'm hoping someone here can help me with a problem I'm currently having with my Braille display. I was using the unit earlier today with no problem, but then it ran out of battery power, and when I restarted it after plugging it in, the Braille dots not in use were all slightly raised (not quite as much as when the BrailleNote is turned off, but almost). Is there something I can do to fix this? Thanks! Lucy Lucy Sirianni Doctoral Candidate and Graduate Student Instructor, Department of English, University of California, Berkeley Vice President of Inclusive Excellence and Social Action, Lydia Maria Child Society _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From jameyanne at gmail.com Mon May 15 12:51:18 2017 From: jameyanne at gmail.com (Jameyanne Fuller) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 08:51:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem In-Reply-To: <000001d2cd11$c2f5c330$48e14990$@sbcglobal.net> References: <5918ee22.049d630a.b4d33.a3c4@mx.google.com> <000001d2cd11$c2f5c330$48e14990$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000401d2cd79$f29da400$d7d8ec00$@gmail.com> I had this problem with my braillenote touch when I first got it. It didn't go away, and I ultimately had to send it back for repairs because of a motherboard problem. If the dots don't go down, I recommend calling tech support for assistance. Jameyanne -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:25 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem Hi Lucy, I never had a BrailleNote Touch but did have a BrailleNote BT. My BrailleNote BT acted the same way when it ran out of battery life. The braille dots being this way after you plug the unit in is by design. If you turn the machine on after the battery is at 100 percent, the braille display will come back. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:54 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Lucy Sirianni Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem Hi all, I'm a new BrailleNote Touch user (still much more familiar with the Apex), and I'm hoping someone here can help me with a problem I'm currently having with my Braille display. I was using the unit earlier today with no problem, but then it ran out of battery power, and when I restarted it after plugging it in, the Braille dots not in use were all slightly raised (not quite as much as when the BrailleNote is turned off, but almost). Is there something I can do to fix this? Thanks! Lucy Lucy Sirianni Doctoral Candidate and Graduate Student Instructor, Department of English, University of California, Berkeley Vice President of Inclusive Excellence and Social Action, Lydia Maria Child Society _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon May 15 13:08:25 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 09:08:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem In-Reply-To: <000401d2cd79$f29da400$d7d8ec00$@gmail.com> References: <5918ee22.049d630a.b4d33.a3c4@mx.google.com> <000001d2cd11$c2f5c330$48e14990$@sbcglobal.net> <000401d2cd79$f29da400$d7d8ec00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001a01d2cd7c$56690e50$033b2af0$@gmail.com> I'm confused... so the full sell dots don't go away when the Touch is turned on or something? I don't understand. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jameyanne Fuller via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:51 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jameyanne Fuller Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem I had this problem with my braillenote touch when I first got it. It didn't go away, and I ultimately had to send it back for repairs because of a motherboard problem. If the dots don't go down, I recommend calling tech support for assistance. Jameyanne -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:25 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem Hi Lucy, I never had a BrailleNote Touch but did have a BrailleNote BT. My BrailleNote BT acted the same way when it ran out of battery life. The braille dots being this way after you plug the unit in is by design. If you turn the machine on after the battery is at 100 percent, the braille display will come back. I hope this helps. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:54 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Lucy Sirianni Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Touch display problem Hi all, I'm a new BrailleNote Touch user (still much more familiar with the Apex), and I'm hoping someone here can help me with a problem I'm currently having with my Braille display. I was using the unit earlier today with no problem, but then it ran out of battery power, and when I restarted it after plugging it in, the Braille dots not in use were all slightly raised (not quite as much as when the BrailleNote is turned off, but almost). Is there something I can do to fix this? Thanks! Lucy Lucy Sirianni Doctoral Candidate and Graduate Student Instructor, Department of English, University of California, Berkeley Vice President of Inclusive Excellence and Social Action, Lydia Maria Child Society _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Mon May 15 13:21:42 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 08:21:42 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt Message-ID: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello NABS family: For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a current student at our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and this year will be my third consecutive national Convention. I will be running for the position of First Vice President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this year! I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice president of our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as a chapter president. Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to introduce a funding program for students to attend Washington Seminar, served as the legislative chair for NABS, obtained several letters of support from students across all 50 states, colleges, and congressional leaders, and done my upmost to contribute to offering the gift of the Federation to other students at 11 different state conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, Idaho, Texas, and Utah. If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, my goals for the term would be: (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible Instructional Materials in higher Education act while gathering letters of support from all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and funding to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across the nation. (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of work to do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind students, but I know that together we can accomplish this task. I hope to have your support at the convention, but in the mean time I look forward to working with you all! As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. Respectfully, Michael Ausbun, Secretary National Association of Blind Students From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Mon May 15 14:26:13 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 10:26:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: <9FA7E13D-7AC8-40FC-AC00-F358D200B32E@gmail.com> You have my full support. Sent from my iPad > On May 15, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello NABS family: > For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current > Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a proud > division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a current student at > our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and this year will be my third > consecutive national Convention. I will be running for the position of First > Vice President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this year! > I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind > can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice president of > our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as a chapter president. > Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to introduce a > funding program for students to attend Washington Seminar, served as the > legislative chair for NABS, obtained several letters of support from > students across all 50 states, colleges, and congressional leaders, and done > my upmost to contribute to offering the gift of the Federation to other > students at 11 different state conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, > Idaho, Texas, and Utah. > If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, > my goals for the term would be: > (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow > students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible Instructional > Materials in higher Education act while gathering letters of support from > all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. > (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to > ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and funding > to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. > (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as > many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. > (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across > the nation. > (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. > I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of work to > do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind students, but I know > that together we can accomplish this task. I hope to have your support at > the convention, but in the mean time I look forward to working with you all! > As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. > Respectfully, > Michael Ausbun, Secretary > National Association of Blind Students > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon May 15 14:46:48 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 10:46:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: <9FA7E13D-7AC8-40FC-AC00-F358D200B32E@gmail.com> References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> <9FA7E13D-7AC8-40FC-AC00-F358D200B32E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have your support. On 5/15/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > You have my full support. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 15, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello NABS family: >> For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current >> Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a proud >> division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a current student >> at >> our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and this year will be my >> third >> consecutive national Convention. I will be running for the position of >> First >> Vice President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this >> year! >> I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind >> can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice president of >> our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as a chapter >> president. >> Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to introduce a >> funding program for students to attend Washington Seminar, served as the >> legislative chair for NABS, obtained several letters of support from >> students across all 50 states, colleges, and congressional leaders, and >> done >> my upmost to contribute to offering the gift of the Federation to other >> students at 11 different state conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, >> Idaho, Texas, and Utah. >> If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, >> my goals for the term would be: >> (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow >> students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible Instructional >> Materials in higher Education act while gathering letters of support from >> all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. >> (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to >> ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and >> funding >> to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. >> (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as >> many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. >> (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across >> the nation. >> (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. >> I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of work >> to >> do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind students, but I >> know >> that together we can accomplish this task. I hope to have your support at >> the convention, but in the mean time I look forward to working with you >> all! >> As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. >> Respectfully, >> Michael Ausbun, Secretary >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon May 15 14:49:27 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 10:49:27 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> <9FA7E13D-7AC8-40FC-AC00-F358D200B32E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a701d2cd8a$73ac5360$5b04fa20$@gmail.com> Same here! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:47 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Alexandra Alfonso Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt I have your support. On 5/15/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > You have my full support. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 15, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L >> >> wrote: >> >> Hello NABS family: >> For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the >> current Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students >> (NABS)-a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am >> a current student at our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, >> and this year will be my third consecutive national Convention. I >> will be running for the position of First Vice President at our >> fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this year! >> I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the >> blind can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice >> president of our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as >> a chapter president. >> Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to >> introduce a funding program for students to attend Washington >> Seminar, served as the legislative chair for NABS, obtained several >> letters of support from students across all 50 states, colleges, and >> congressional leaders, and done my upmost to contribute to offering >> the gift of the Federation to other students at 11 different state >> conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, Idaho, Texas, and Utah. >> If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve >> you, my goals for the term would be: >> (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow >> students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible >> Instructional Materials in higher Education act while gathering >> letters of support from all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. >> (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to >> ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and >> funding to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. >> (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as >> many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. >> (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across >> the nation. >> (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. >> I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of >> work to do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind >> students, but I know that together we can accomplish this task. I >> hope to have your support at the convention, but in the mean time I >> look forward to working with you all! >> As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. >> Respectfully, >> Michael Ausbun, Secretary >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gma >> il.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon May 15 14:49:37 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 07:49:37 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> <9FA7E13D-7AC8-40FC-AC00-F358D200B32E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Typo? Lol On 5/15/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > I have your support. > > On 5/15/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >> You have my full support. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 15, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello NABS family: >>> For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current >>> Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a proud >>> division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a current student >>> at >>> our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and this year will be my >>> third >>> consecutive national Convention. I will be running for the position of >>> First >>> Vice President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this >>> year! >>> I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind >>> can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice president >>> of >>> our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as a chapter >>> president. >>> Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to introduce a >>> funding program for students to attend Washington Seminar, served as the >>> legislative chair for NABS, obtained several letters of support from >>> students across all 50 states, colleges, and congressional leaders, and >>> done >>> my upmost to contribute to offering the gift of the Federation to other >>> students at 11 different state conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, >>> Idaho, Texas, and Utah. >>> If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, >>> my goals for the term would be: >>> (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow >>> students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible >>> Instructional >>> Materials in higher Education act while gathering letters of support >>> from >>> all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. >>> (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to >>> ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and >>> funding >>> to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. >>> (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as >>> many students across the nation are receiving the love of the >>> Federation. >>> (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across >>> the nation. >>> (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. >>> I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of >>> work >>> to >>> do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind students, but I >>> know >>> that together we can accomplish this task. I hope to have your support >>> at >>> the convention, but in the mean time I look forward to working with you >>> all! >>> As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. >>> Respectfully, >>> Michael Ausbun, Secretary >>> National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon May 15 14:51:58 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 10:51:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention Location/What Will Be There Message-ID: <00a901d2cd8a$cda02090$68e061b0$@gmail.com> Hello NABS, I'm emailing to ask about the convention, as so many others have on here. but I want to know about the location of the con.. I know it's in a hotel, but what is this hotel like exactly? How big is it? Where will the con be held within it? What facilities does it contain? I'm just very curious about this. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Mon May 15 14:58:50 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 09:58:50 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention Location/What Will Be There In-Reply-To: <00a901d2cd8a$cda02090$68e061b0$@gmail.com> References: <00a901d2cd8a$cda02090$68e061b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701d2cd8b$c373a550$4a5aeff0$@nevada.unr.edu> Hey Jordan, The national Convention will be in the Rosen Shingle Creak hotel this year. The hotel is pretty large, and has several places to eat, a pool, a bar, and lots and lots of blind people. When the national agenda is released in a month or so, more information-including a written guide for navigating the hotel-will be available. Keep checking this link: https://nfb.org/convention Michael Ausbun Secretary, National Association of Blind Students -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:52 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: [nabs-l] Convention Location/What Will Be There Hello NABS, I'm emailing to ask about the convention, as so many others have on here. but I want to know about the location of the con.. I know it's in a hotel, but what is this hotel like exactly? How big is it? Where will the con be held within it? What facilities does it contain? I'm just very curious about this. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon May 15 15:01:39 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 11:01:39 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> <9FA7E13D-7AC8-40FC-AC00-F358D200B32E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ee01d2cd8c$2804e290$780ea7b0$@gmail.com> What????? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:50 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt Typo? Lol On 5/15/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > I have your support. > > On 5/15/17, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >> You have my full support. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 15, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello NABS family: >>> For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the >>> current Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students >>> (NABS)-a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind. I >>> am a current student at our Louisiana Center for the Blind in >>> Ruston, and this year will be my third consecutive national >>> Convention. I will be running for the position of First Vice >>> President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this >>> year! >>> I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the >>> blind can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice >>> president of our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as >>> a chapter president. >>> Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to >>> introduce a funding program for students to attend Washington >>> Seminar, served as the legislative chair for NABS, obtained several >>> letters of support from students across all 50 states, colleges, and >>> congressional leaders, and done my upmost to contribute to offering >>> the gift of the Federation to other students at 11 different state >>> conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, Idaho, Texas, and Utah. >>> If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve >>> you, my goals for the term would be: >>> (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow >>> students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible >>> Instructional Materials in higher Education act while gathering >>> letters of support from all students in our 52 affiliates and as >>> many universities as possible. >>> (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to >>> ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and >>> funding to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. >>> (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as >>> many students across the nation are receiving the love of the >>> Federation. >>> (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across >>> the nation. >>> (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. >>> I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of >>> work to do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind >>> students, but I know that together we can accomplish this task. I >>> hope to have your support at the convention, but in the mean time I >>> look forward to working with you all! >>> As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. >>> Respectfully, >>> Michael Ausbun, Secretary >>> National Association of Blind Students >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gm >>> ail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gma >> il.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon May 15 15:01:53 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 08:01:53 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention LocN/What Will Be There Message-ID: "The con" hotel, as you so eloquently put it is huge. It has a convention center where "the con" will be taking place, and then a ton of restaurants. Downstairs in "the con" center are a bunch of ballrooms, where general session will be and where the exhibit hall and various meetings will be. Upstairs, various meetings of "the con" will be happening each day. An agenda will come out in the first few days of June so you can read the list. There is also a very helpful document written by Mary Ellen Jernigan that explains the hotel layout. If you have a chance, try to explore "the con" center before tons of people get there, because that will really help. I got to "the con" the day before "the con" actually started, so I was able to explore and get my bearings beforehand. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/15/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Hello NABS, > > > > I'm emailing to ask about the convention, as so many others have on here. > but I want to know about the location of the con.. I know it's in a hotel, > but what is this hotel like exactly? How big is it? Where will the con be > held within it? What facilities does it contain? I'm just very curious > about > this. > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Mon May 15 15:05:36 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 11:05:36 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention LocN/What Will Be There In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f001d2cd8c$b579a750$206cf5f0$@gmail.com> Ok, thank you so much Cricket! Also, I know this isn't really related to this, but I just thought I'd mention that, well, I'm Jordan, and I'm a girl who, a long, long, long time ago, sent you a letter in braille to you since at the time you lived in Hawaii, and for some reason I had a fascination with Hawaiian/Polynesian culture. This was when I was around six or five years old, BTW. I'm not sure if you remember me, but I remember you, and it seems like you're pretty successful now!!!! Awesome!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:02 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention LocN/What Will Be There "The con" hotel, as you so eloquently put it is huge. It has a convention center where "the con" will be taking place, and then a ton of restaurants. Downstairs in "the con" center are a bunch of ballrooms, where general session will be and where the exhibit hall and various meetings will be. Upstairs, various meetings of "the con" will be happening each day. An agenda will come out in the first few days of June so you can read the list. There is also a very helpful document written by Mary Ellen Jernigan that explains the hotel layout. If you have a chance, try to explore "the con" center before tons of people get there, because that will really help. I got to "the con" the day before "the con" actually started, so I was able to explore and get my bearings beforehand. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/15/17, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > Hello NABS, > > > > I'm emailing to ask about the convention, as so many others have on here. > but I want to know about the location of the con.. I know it's in a > hotel, but what is this hotel like exactly? How big is it? Where will > the con be held within it? What facilities does it contain? I'm just > very curious about this. > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From discoduck221 at gmail.com Mon May 15 18:40:21 2017 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 12:40:21 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: On 5/15/17, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: > Hello NABS family: > For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current > Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a proud > division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a current student at > our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and this year will be my > third > consecutive national Convention. I will be running for the position of > First > Vice President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this year! > I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind > can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice president of > our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as a chapter > president. > Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to introduce a > funding program for students to attend Washington Seminar, served as the > legislative chair for NABS, obtained several letters of support from > students across all 50 states, colleges, and congressional leaders, and > done > my upmost to contribute to offering the gift of the Federation to other > students at 11 different state conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, > Idaho, Texas, and Utah. > If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, > my goals for the term would be: > (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow > students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible Instructional > Materials in higher Education act while gathering letters of support from > all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. > (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to > ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and funding > to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. > (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as > many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. > (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across > the nation. > (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. > I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of work > to > do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind students, but I > know > that together we can accomplish this task. I hope to have your support at > the convention, but in the mean time I look forward to working with you > all! > As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. > Respectfully, > Michael Ausbun, Secretary > National Association of Blind Students > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gmail.com > From discoduck221 at gmail.com Mon May 15 18:48:01 2017 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 12:48:01 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Tonight's Your Chance To Meet Vee Gaspa, A Candidate For Nabs First VP Message-ID: Hello All! With the National Convention coming soon, people are already starting to make it known what they are running for. Vee Gaspa is one of the awesome people who will be running for Nabs First VP. Not sure who Vee is? You get a chance to hear a little about her tonight. I'm doing a Djd Invasion radio show on KJSC Radio from 8 PM eastern tonight to 11 PM eastern tonight, and in Hour2, Vee will be coming on to talk about herself, why she's running, and maybe will give us a glimpse into what she will do if elected. In addition to getting to meet this vibrant, happy-go-lucky candidate, you'll also have a chance to hear some great music to get your energy up on a Monday, as well as be energized by Vee's words. During the show, you can interact with us via skype at kjsc.radio Via telephone at 602 399 7279 or via twitter at kjscradio The fun starts at 8 PM eastern. While you're waiting for the show to start, you can get in any requests you might want to make right now by visiting http://djdrocks.online/search and to tune in, you can either Look for KJSC Radio using the TuneIn Radio app Go to it using this link to the web player http://onj.me/kjscradio Or, for additional listening options, head on over to http://kjscradio.com/classic/radio.php The show and musical fun begin at 8, and Vee's presentation will start at 9 PM eastern. It's the first radio show I've done this year, so hope you'll tune in for music, good interaction, and to meet the lovely and talented Vee Gaspa, perhaps the next VP of Nabs! >From David Dunphy From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Mon May 15 20:36:40 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 16:36:40 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Scientific calculator Message-ID: Hello, so recently my scientific calculator quit on me. Does anybody have any good recommendations for scientific calculators that talk? Sent from my iPhone From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Tue May 16 00:22:08 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 17:22:08 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: Is this supposed to be blank? On 5/15/17, David Dunphy via NABS-L wrote: > On 5/15/17, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: >> Hello NABS family: >> For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current >> Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a proud >> division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a current student >> at >> our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and this year will be my >> third >> consecutive national Convention. I will be running for the position of >> First >> Vice President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this >> year! >> I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind >> can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice president of >> our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as a chapter >> president. >> Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to introduce a >> funding program for students to attend Washington Seminar, served as the >> legislative chair for NABS, obtained several letters of support from >> students across all 50 states, colleges, and congressional leaders, and >> done >> my upmost to contribute to offering the gift of the Federation to other >> students at 11 different state conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, >> Idaho, Texas, and Utah. >> If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, >> my goals for the term would be: >> (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow >> students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible Instructional >> Materials in higher Education act while gathering letters of support from >> all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. >> (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to >> ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and >> funding >> to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. >> (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as >> many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. >> (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across >> the nation. >> (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. >> I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of work >> to >> do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind students, but I >> know >> that together we can accomplish this task. I hope to have your support at >> the convention, but in the mean time I look forward to working with you >> all! >> As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. >> Respectfully, >> Michael Ausbun, Secretary >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue May 16 01:30:58 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 21:30:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: <03e301d2cde4$122d4540$3687cfc0$@gmail.com> I don't know. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:22 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt Is this supposed to be blank? On 5/15/17, David Dunphy via NABS-L wrote: > On 5/15/17, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: >> Hello NABS family: >> For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current >> Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a >> proud division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a >> current student at our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and >> this year will be my third consecutive national Convention. I will be >> running for the position of First Vice President at our fiftieth >> anniversary NABS business meeting this year! >> I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind >> can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice >> president of our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as >> a chapter president. >> Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to >> introduce a funding program for students to attend Washington >> Seminar, served as the legislative chair for NABS, obtained several >> letters of support from students across all 50 states, colleges, and >> congressional leaders, and done my upmost to contribute to offering >> the gift of the Federation to other students at 11 different state >> conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, Idaho, Texas, and Utah. >> If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, >> my goals for the term would be: >> (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow >> students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible >> Instructional Materials in higher Education act while gathering >> letters of support from all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. >> (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to >> ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and >> funding to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. >> (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as >> many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. >> (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across >> the nation. >> (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. >> I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of >> work to do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind >> students, but I know that together we can accomplish this task. I >> hope to have your support at the convention, but in the mean time I >> look forward to working with you all! >> As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. >> Respectfully, >> Michael Ausbun, Secretary >> National Association of Blind Students >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gm >> ail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue May 16 01:31:26 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 21:31:26 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Scientific calculator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03e501d2cde4$23163060$69429120$@gmail.com> All I can recommend is the Orion T I 84+. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Taylor Arndt via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 4:37 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Taylor Arndt Subject: [nabs-l] Scientific calculator Hello, so recently my scientific calculator quit on me. Does anybody have any good recommendations for scientific calculators that talk? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From piano.girl0299 at gmail.com Tue May 16 03:48:40 2017 From: piano.girl0299 at gmail.com (Kelsey Nicolay) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 22:48:40 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Message-ID: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> Hello, I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Tue May 16 03:00:46 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 23:00:46 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000001d2cdf0$9ebc4770$dc34d650$@sbcglobal.net> I have Windows 10, but yes, I have experienced this. It's so frustrating! Jen -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Hello, I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 at work since November. I have noticed in the past couple months, JAWS has a tendency to crash; most of the time this happens, I can get JAWS 17 started or turn NVDA on, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like alt, F4. I later determined from NVDA Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Tue May 16 03:19:13 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 23:19:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <000001d2cdf0$9ebc4770$dc34d650$@sbcglobal.net> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <000001d2cdf0$9ebc4770$dc34d650$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <011501d2cdf3$31a2de30$94e89a90$@gmail.com> Kelsey, How many gigs or ram does your computer have at work? This might be the cause of your frustration. It's either that or the computer you have at work is very old as far as processor is concerned and the processor needs to be updated. If you need any more help please let me know. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:01 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jen Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I have Windows 10, but yes, I have experienced this. It's so frustrating! Jen -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Hello, I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 at work since November. I have noticed in the past couple months, JAWS has a tendency to crash; most of the time this happens, I can get JAWS 17 started or turn NVDA on, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like alt, F4. I later determined from NVDA Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Tue May 16 11:01:24 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 07:01:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <000001d2cdf0$9ebc4770$dc34d650$@sbcglobal.net> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <000001d2cdf0$9ebc4770$dc34d650$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <6B9E9DE6-383C-4264-80A1-7005BFEB51D6@gmail.com> Me too that's why I use nvda Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2017, at 11:00 PM, Jen via NABS-L wrote: > > I have Windows 10, but yes, I have experienced this. It's so frustrating! > > Jen > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay > via NABS-L > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 PM > > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > Cc: Kelsey Nicolay > > Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Hello, > > I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 > at work since November. I have noticed in the past couple months, JAWS has > a tendency to crash; most of the time this happens, I can get JAWS 17 > started or turn NVDA on, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I > could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like > alt, F4. I later determined from NVDA Outlook had stopped responding, but > when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, > there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to > initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and > couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar > issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. > > > Thank you, > > > Kelsey Nicolay > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n > et > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue May 16 12:35:33 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 08:35:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <001b01d2ce40$e9b815b0$bd284110$@gmail.com> Hmmm, I have experienced this before, but with JAWS 17 instead of 18. Unfortunately I really don't know what to do, maybe just clear out your comp or defrag it. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Hello, I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From garywunder at me.com Tue May 16 14:14:42 2017 From: garywunder at me.com (Gary Wunder) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 09:14:42 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook are you using? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Hello, I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Tue May 16 14:47:55 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 10:47:55 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Kelsey, I recommend sticking with jaws 17. I've heard a lot of issues with jaws 18 crashing with Outlook and that's pretty much all there is. Unfortunately as someone mentioned there's not much to do; "clearing out your computer" won't work, whatever that might mean and it's not a defrag issue. Thanks and HTH, -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Tue May 16 15:26:16 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Linson Productions) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:26:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> Message-ID: <15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> I think this problem doesn't matter what version of jaws that you have. I am running 18 and outlook, they both work fine on my machine. On May 16, 2017 10:15:50 AM Gary Wunder via NABS-L wrote: > I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook are > you using? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelsey Nicolay > Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Hello, > I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS > 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, > JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get > JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point > where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows > keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had > stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from > doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the > power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan > of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else > experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never > did this. > Thank you, > Kelsey Nicolay > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com From Amason at nfb.org Tue May 16 15:28:02 2017 From: Amason at nfb.org (Mason, Amy) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 15:28:02 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> Message-ID: I've been seeing some of this with JAWS and Outlook, but also word. I'm running on Windows 10 though. What version is your copy of Office? Amy Mason (410) 659-9314 Ext. 2424 National Federation of the Blind -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:15 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Gary Wunder Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook are you using? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Hello, I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amason%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From steve.jacobson at visi.com Tue May 16 16:20:15 2017 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:20:15 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> <15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006501d2ce60$4e155990$ea400cb0$@visi.com> Which version of Outlook are you using and which build of JAWS 18? I have also had problems since a recent build, Build 2738, of JAWS and Office 2016 through Office 365. Certainly problems are minimized by more speed and more memory, but it does seem as though something has gotten more troublesome recently. I have reverted to JAWS 17 when I know I am going to be doing a good deal of work in Outlook, Word or Excel, and the problems are a good deal less when I do that. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson Productions via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Linson Productions Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I think this problem doesn't matter what version of jaws that you have. I am running 18 and outlook, they both work fine on my machine. On May 16, 2017 10:15:50 AM Gary Wunder via NABS-L wrote: > I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook are > you using? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelsey Nicolay > Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Hello, > I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS > 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, > JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get > JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point > where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows > keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had > stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from > doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the > power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan > of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else > experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never > did this. > Thank you, > Kelsey Nicolay > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m From tasnim.shuli at gmail.com Tue May 16 17:08:28 2017 From: tasnim.shuli at gmail.com (Tasnim) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 13:08:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Scientific calculator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can use a calculator on your iPhone. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, so recently my scientific calculator quit on me. Does anybody have any good recommendations for scientific calculators that talk? > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tasnim.shuli%40gmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Tue May 16 17:51:03 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 10:51:03 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Ausbun for First Vice Presidentt In-Reply-To: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <000201d2cd7e$323e6910$96bb3b30$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: Dear Michael: First of all, I would just like to say that I very much admire your courage in running for this honorable position. You truly exemplify great leadership, and given how hard you've worked in the past two years, I am incredibly excited to see what you contribute to NABS in the future. I am particularly impressed by your writing. I feel that, in an effort to get officer positions, a lot of people generally tend to discuss their experience and qualifications and just pile them up like papers in a recycle bin. And we all know what happens to papers in a recycle bin... They get... Reused might be a polite term. I appreciate the way you discuss your qualifications in a relatable manner. I think your writing embodies your voice, and that is a gift that few have. I love how you focus not just on yourself, but on the good that your actions have done for other people. I think that all students can agree that the board should be willing to look beyond themselves, and should realize that their work should benefit blind students as a collective group. Therefore, focusing on accomplishments that only benefit you would not be adequate, but you obviously don't have to worry about that because you've captured your work in a positive way that embodies the mission of NABS. That's one thing I would like to remind everyone to remember—NABS sets out to improve the educational rights and access of blind students, not to do things that benefit a few people or that provide people with entertainment. We are a group that does a lot of good, and our board should be reflective of our mission. Perhaps the one facet of your letter that I most admire is its simplicity and honesty. You're not here to play childish political games. You're not trying to win frivolous popularity contests. You're here to get stuff done. As NABS leaders have told me, you are a mover and a shaker. Your focus on the issues that must be resolved for blind students and the work that has yet to be accomplished clearly exhibits your determination, and your perspective lends a raw honesty to your writing that is truly refreshing. Your goals are clearly laid out and not hidden behind flowery, meaningless language. I wish everyone running for any office anywhere wrote and campaigned the way you do. That is what elections should be about—who is the best candidate, the most qualified, the one ready for what the duties entail; and who will actually get things accomplished, not who can get to the most people to get the most votes. In conclusion, and I do apologize for the length of this piece, I guarantee you my full support at Convention without reservation. I am humbled by your willingness to share your perspective with us. As a student graduating high school in just three weeks; and as a national scholarship finalist, I am confident in your attitude and work ethic. As I begin my postsecondary education, I know that the membership's investment in your leadership will be worth each of our votes. I urge every student to consider the meaning of the words we have so generously been given by both candidates, and to think about the goals of both as they relate to the mission of NABS. Michael is truly deserving. Michael has proven to be phenomenally selfless and honest, and Michael is willing to forego politics in favor of actually accomplishing what needs to be accomplished. The clear standout for First VP is Michael Ausbun. Join me in voting Michael Ausbun on Tuesday, July 11 in Orlando, Florida for this position, the role that serves as President Webster's backup, the man ready and fit for the job! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman Stanford University, Class of 2021 NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/15/17, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: > Hello NABS family: > For those who do not know me, my name is Michael Ausbun, the current > Secretary for the National Association of Blind Students (NABS)-a proud > division of the National Federation of the Blind. I am a current student at > our Louisiana Center for the Blind in Ruston, and this year will be my > third > consecutive national Convention. I will be running for the position of > First > Vice President at our fiftieth anniversary NABS business meeting this year! > I recognize that through love, hope, and determination we the blind > can transform dreams into reality. I have served as the vice president of > our Nevada Affiliate, as a board member of NABS, and as a chapter > president. > Since last year, President Webster and I have worked hard to introduce a > funding program for students to attend Washington Seminar, served as the > legislative chair for NABS, obtained several letters of support from > students across all 50 states, colleges, and congressional leaders, and > done > my upmost to contribute to offering the gift of the Federation to other > students at 11 different state conventions including Nevada, Louisiana, > Idaho, Texas, and Utah. > If you were to provide me with the honor to continuing to serve you, > my goals for the term would be: > (1) Work with president Webster, the rest of the board, and fellow > students to ensure the passing of H.R. 1772, the Accessible Instructional > Materials in higher Education act while gathering letters of support from > all students in our 52 affiliates and as many universities as possible. > (2) Work with president Webster, the board, and fellow students to > ensure as many students as possible continue to receive support and funding > to attend Washington Seminar and National Convention. > (3) Continue to work on building the Student division and ensuring as > many students across the nation are receiving the love of the Federation. > (4) Working to ensure that the needs of students are being met across > the nation. > (5) Continuing to give my heart and soul to our movement. > I look forward to seeing you all this summer. We still have a lot of work > to > do to gain equality, opportunity and security for blind students, but I > know > that together we can accomplish this task. I hope to have your support at > the convention, but in the mean time I look forward to working with you > all! > As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. > Respectfully, > Michael Ausbun, Secretary > National Association of Blind Students > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Tue May 16 18:02:15 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 14:02:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> Message-ID: <000001d2ce6e$8db0bbe0$a91233a0$@sbcglobal.net> Hi Amy and all, I had this happen with Word yesterday. I was working on something and had to force a shutdown to get JAWS to talk, but when I pressed Enter on "Cancel" to save my work, JAWS went off again, so I had to pres "Shut down anyway." It was a good thing the document was a practice document for skills maintenance from my medical transcription course, not something really important. I have Office 2016 and Windows 10. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mason, Amy via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:28 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Mason, Amy Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I've been seeing some of this with JAWS and Outlook, but also word. I'm running on Windows 10 though. What version is your copy of Office? Amy Mason (410) 659-9314 Ext. 2424 National Federation of the Blind -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:15 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Gary Wunder Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook are you using? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Hello, I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never did this. Thank you, Kelsey Nicolay _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amason%40nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/spiderweb1%40sbcglobal.n et From jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com Tue May 16 21:17:02 2017 From: jpolansky.nfb at gmail.com (Jason Polansky) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 17:17:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions about accessibility of several computer applications Message-ID: Hi all, I am going into my junior year at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, studying marketing. During an interview last week for a summer internship, I was informed that Microsoft Publisher is often times used to create brochures and flyers for events. I was also asked if I had any experience entering information into a database. The company is using the database to revamp their web site. I said that You could say that I was not exactly sure how to answer this question, but I essentially said that I did not have any experience with databases, but that I would open to trying it if the program was accessible with my screen reader. Also, I said that I had a decent amount of experience with Excel. As far as Publisher as concerned, I have not heard of it being discussed very much in the blind community, and I have heard that it is quite visual, and thus not sure if it is accessible. Additionally, I was wondering if anyone has had experience with Google Analytics or search engine optimization, as this is a commonly used application in marketing. Essentially, I would like to know whether it is accessible and how to go about learning it. Any advice would be appreciated. Sincerely, Jason From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Tue May 16 21:37:52 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 17:37:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Followup to "JAWS" Message-ID: <000001d2ce8c$ace3f6d0$06abe470$@sbcglobal.net> I also sent this to GUI-Talk. Hello everyone, JAWS 17 has been updated, as when I turned it on, it told me updates were available. I looked on the Freedom Scientific site, but since they haven't updated the page for JAWS 17, I don't know what the new JAWS 17 update fixes. When the page is updated, I'll let you know. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue May 16 21:39:11 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 17:39:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Followup to "JAWS" In-Reply-To: <000001d2ce8c$ace3f6d0$06abe470$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000001d2ce8c$ace3f6d0$06abe470$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <012f01d2ce8c$db78b530$926a1f90$@gmail.com> Ok..... -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:38 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Jen Subject: [nabs-l] Followup to "JAWS" I also sent this to GUI-Talk. Hello everyone, JAWS 17 has been updated, as when I turned it on, it told me updates were available. I looked on the Freedom Scientific site, but since they haven't updated the page for JAWS 17, I don't know what the new JAWS 17 update fixes. When the page is updated, I'll let you know. Jen spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From piano.girl0299 at gmail.com Tue May 16 22:39:35 2017 From: piano.girl0299 at gmail.com (Kelsey Nicolay) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 17:39:35 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS Message-ID: <591b7199.4f336b0a.cdf3f.0303@mx.google.com> Hello, I am not sure of the specs of my work computer. They just replaced it last June after the one they originally gave me completely crashed and not even our IT person could get it to do anything. Aaron, yes, I would love to work with you in getting this straightened out. Please write me off list at piano.girl0299 at gmail.com From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Tue May 16 22:07:02 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 18:07:02 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Questions about accessibility of several computer applications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <466F3D92-68FB-4682-8FD8-2EE3929A8C64@gmail.com> I can tell you one thing, that Microsoft publisher is not accessible Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Jason Polansky via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > I am going into my junior year at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, studying marketing. During an interview last week for a summer internship, I was informed that Microsoft Publisher is often times used to create brochures and flyers for events. I was also asked if I had any experience entering information into a database. The company is using the database to revamp their web site. I said that You could say that I was not exactly sure how to answer this question, but I essentially said that I did not have any experience with databases, but that I would open to trying it if the program was accessible with my screen reader. Also, I said that I had a decent amount of experience with Excel. As far as Publisher as concerned, I have not heard of it being discussed very much in the blind community, and I have heard that it is quite visual, and thus not sure if it is accessible. Additionally, I was wondering if anyone has had experience with Google Analytics or search engine optimization, as this is a commonly used application in marketing. Essentially, I would like to know whether it is accessible and how to go about learning it. Any advice would be appreciated. > Sincerely, > Jason > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue May 16 22:38:24 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 18:38:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <006501d2ce60$4e155990$ea400cb0$@visi.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com><15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <006501d2ce60$4e155990$ea400cb0$@visi.com> Message-ID: <0432BB97C1EC476A9803A158B4C2502B@OwnerPC> Hello, It seems like many of you including those tech savvy people are having trouble with Jaws 18 and either Word or Outlook. Given that these are mainstream products used often in work settings, this could be a serious problem since if you are typing or something important, you do not want jaws to conk out on you. Without jaws, you are clueless and would need a sighted person's help to save your work and shut down the pc properly. Does freedom scientific know about this? Kelsey, did you contact FS about this? This sounds bad and something FS needs to be working on ASAP. I've got jaws 18 and I think it has froze on me in Word. I'm using older software. Its windows 7 and Microsoft 2010. I'll keep this all in mind and next time it crashes on me, I'll make a note and call FS. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Steve Jacobson via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:20 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS Which version of Outlook are you using and which build of JAWS 18? I have also had problems since a recent build, Build 2738, of JAWS and Office 2016 through Office 365. Certainly problems are minimized by more speed and more memory, but it does seem as though something has gotten more troublesome recently. I have reverted to JAWS 17 when I know I am going to be doing a good deal of work in Outlook, Word or Excel, and the problems are a good deal less when I do that. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson Productions via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Linson Productions Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I think this problem doesn't matter what version of jaws that you have. I am running 18 and outlook, they both work fine on my machine. On May 16, 2017 10:15:50 AM Gary Wunder via NABS-L wrote: > I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook are > you using? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelsey Nicolay > Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Hello, > I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on JAWS > 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple months, > JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this happens, I can get > JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the point > where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard Windows > keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that Outlook had > stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up and prevent me from > doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was pressing the > power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a scan > of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone else > experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS 17 never > did this. > Thank you, > Kelsey Nicolay > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Tue May 16 22:48:59 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 18:48:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <0432BB97C1EC476A9803A158B4C2502B@OwnerPC> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com><15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <006501d2ce60$4e155990$ea400cb0$@visi.com> <0432BB97C1EC476A9803A158B4C2502B@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <027801d2ce96$9c15db20$d4419160$@gmail.com> I don't think that the statement "jaws would conk out on you and you'd need sighted assistance..." What about installing NVDA or learning how to use narrator. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:38 PM To: steve.jacobson at visi.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Ashley Bramlett Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS Hello, It seems like many of you including those tech savvy people are having trouble with Jaws 18 and either Word or Outlook. Given that these are mainstream products used often in work settings, this could be a serious problem since if you are typing or something important, you do not want jaws to conk out on you. Without jaws, you are clueless and would need a sighted person's help to save your work and shut down the pc properly. Does freedom scientific know about this? Kelsey, did you contact FS about this? This sounds bad and something FS needs to be working on ASAP. I've got jaws 18 and I think it has froze on me in Word. I'm using older software. Its windows 7 and Microsoft 2010. I'll keep this all in mind and next time it crashes on me, I'll make a note and call FS. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Steve Jacobson via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:20 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS Which version of Outlook are you using and which build of JAWS 18? I have also had problems since a recent build, Build 2738, of JAWS and Office 2016 through Office 365. Certainly problems are minimized by more speed and more memory, but it does seem as though something has gotten more troublesome recently. I have reverted to JAWS 17 when I know I am going to be doing a good deal of work in Outlook, Word or Excel, and the problems are a good deal less when I do that. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson Productions via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Linson Productions Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I think this problem doesn't matter what version of jaws that you have. I am running 18 and outlook, they both work fine on my machine. On May 16, 2017 10:15:50 AM Gary Wunder via NABS-L wrote: > I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook > are you using? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Kelsey Nicolay > Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Hello, > I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on > JAWS > 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple > months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this > happens, I can get > JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the > point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard > Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that > Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up > and prevent me from > doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was > pressing the > power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a > scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone > else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS > 17 never did this. > Thank you, > Kelsey Nicolay > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink. net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m From tyler at tysdomain.com Tue May 16 22:51:54 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 18:51:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <027801d2ce96$9c15db20$d4419160$@gmail.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> <15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <006501d2ce60$4e155990$ea400cb0$@visi.com> <0432BB97C1EC476A9803A158B4C2502B@OwnerPC> <027801d2ce96$9c15db20$d4419160$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55950a42-336c-7d64-d053-03d05107ba83@tysdomain.com> I was going to comment on that too. You are not clueless without sighted help. I use narrator to rescue me from jaws "conking out" e.g: crashing. Sometimes you either do need to use the task manager however or restart depending on which part of jaws crashed. But if you can alt-tab and reboot jaws with narrator you should be fine. Also setting up a hotkey like ctrl+alt+j might be useful. HTH, On 5/16/2017 6:48 PM, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: > I don't think that the statement "jaws would conk out on you and you'd need > sighted assistance..." What about installing NVDA or learning how to use > narrator. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > CEO Blind Faith Project > CEO Linson Productions > Aaron Linson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett > via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:38 PM > To: steve.jacobson at visi.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing > list > Cc: Ashley Bramlett > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Hello, > > It seems like many of you including those tech savvy people are having > trouble with Jaws 18 and either Word or Outlook. > Given that these are mainstream products used often in work settings, this > could be a serious problem since if you are typing or something important, > you do not want jaws to conk out on you. Without jaws, you are clueless and > would need a sighted person's help to save your work and shut down the pc > properly. > > Does freedom scientific know about this? Kelsey, did you contact FS about > this? This sounds bad and something FS needs to be working on ASAP. > > I've got jaws 18 and I think it has froze on me in Word. I'm using older > software. Its windows 7 and Microsoft 2010. > I'll keep this all in mind and next time it crashes on me, I'll make a note > and call FS. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Jacobson via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:20 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Steve Jacobson > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Which version of Outlook are you using and which build of JAWS 18? I have > also had problems since a recent build, Build 2738, of JAWS and Office 2016 > through Office 365. Certainly problems are minimized by more speed and more > memory, but it does seem as though something has gotten more troublesome > recently. I have reverted to JAWS 17 when I know I am going to be doing a > good deal of work in Outlook, Word or Excel, and the problems are a good > deal less when I do that. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson > Productions via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Linson Productions > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS > > I think this problem doesn't matter what version of jaws that you have. I am > running 18 and outlook, they both work fine on my machine. > > > On May 16, 2017 10:15:50 AM Gary Wunder via NABS-L > wrote: > >> I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook >> are you using? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey > Nicolay >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Kelsey Nicolay >> Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS >> >> Hello, >> I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on >> JAWS >> 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple >> months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this >> happens, I can > get >> JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the >> point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard >> Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that >> Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up >> and prevent me > from >> doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was >> pressing > the >> power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a >> scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone >> else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS >> 17 never did this. >> Thank you, >> Kelsey Nicolay >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.co >> m >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co > m > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink. > net > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Tue May 16 23:43:59 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 18:43:59 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <55950a42-336c-7d64-d053-03d05107ba83@tysdomain.com> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> <15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <006501d2ce60$4e155990$ea400cb0$@visi.com> <0432BB97C1EC476A9803A158B4C2502B@OwnerPC> <027801d2ce96$9c15db20$d4419160$@gmail.com> <55950a42-336c-7d64-d053-03d05107ba83@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: <000a01d2ce9e$4b295400$e17bfc00$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello All: I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to know multiple ways of preforming a task. If you have even 30 minutes each day, take some time and play with narrator or NVDA. As others have said, when one fails, as windows users, we have lots and lots of alternative methods we can, and should, use to effectively complete our tasks. This is a luxury we have as windows users. On a slightly different note, I find that JAWS 18 works beautifully with windows 10 (something I never thought I would say, before I started attending the Louisiana Center). I have yet to have any issues, and, when combined with office 365, I find myself a very happy computer geek. Hope all is well! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:52 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Littlefield, Tyler Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS I was going to comment on that too. You are not clueless without sighted help. I use narrator to rescue me from jaws "conking out" e.g: crashing. Sometimes you either do need to use the task manager however or restart depending on which part of jaws crashed. But if you can alt-tab and reboot jaws with narrator you should be fine. Also setting up a hotkey like ctrl+alt+j might be useful. HTH, On 5/16/2017 6:48 PM, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: > I don't think that the statement "jaws would conk out on you and you'd > need sighted assistance..." What about installing NVDA or learning how > to use narrator. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > CEO Blind Faith Project > CEO Linson Productions > Aaron Linson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett > via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:38 PM > To: steve.jacobson at visi.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing > list > Cc: Ashley Bramlett > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Hello, > > It seems like many of you including those tech savvy people are having > trouble with Jaws 18 and either Word or Outlook. > Given that these are mainstream products used often in work settings, this > could be a serious problem since if you are typing or something important, > you do not want jaws to conk out on you. Without jaws, you are clueless and > would need a sighted person's help to save your work and shut down the pc > properly. > > Does freedom scientific know about this? Kelsey, did you contact FS about > this? This sounds bad and something FS needs to be working on ASAP. > > I've got jaws 18 and I think it has froze on me in Word. I'm using older > software. Its windows 7 and Microsoft 2010. > I'll keep this all in mind and next time it crashes on me, I'll make a note > and call FS. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Jacobson via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:20 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Cc: Steve Jacobson > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS > > Which version of Outlook are you using and which build of JAWS 18? I have > also had problems since a recent build, Build 2738, of JAWS and Office 2016 > through Office 365. Certainly problems are minimized by more speed and more > memory, but it does seem as though something has gotten more troublesome > recently. I have reverted to JAWS 17 when I know I am going to be doing a > good deal of work in Outlook, Word or Excel, and the problems are a good > deal less when I do that. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson > Productions via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Linson Productions > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS > > I think this problem doesn't matter what version of jaws that you have. I am > running 18 and outlook, they both work fine on my machine. > > > On May 16, 2017 10:15:50 AM Gary Wunder via NABS-L > wrote: > >> I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook >> are you using? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey > Nicolay >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Kelsey Nicolay >> Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS >> >> Hello, >> I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on >> JAWS >> 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple >> months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this >> happens, I can > get >> JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the >> point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard >> Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that >> Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up >> and prevent me > from >> doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was >> pressing > the >> power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a >> scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone >> else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS >> 17 never did this. >> Thank you, >> Kelsey Nicolay >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.co >> m >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co > m > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink. > net > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu From louvins at gmail.com Wed May 17 00:10:53 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 19:10:53 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS In-Reply-To: <000a01d2ce9e$4b295400$e17bfc00$@nevada.unr.edu> References: <591a6889.0233240a.b3e76.2aab@mx.google.com> <009301d2ce4e$c45b62a0$4d1227e0$@me.com> <15c11ddedc0.2889.7549fa432c2fa140dc0abcb8ead640ad@gmail.com> <006501d2ce60$4e155990$ea400cb0$@visi.com> <0432BB97C1EC476A9803A158B4C2502B@OwnerPC> <027801d2ce96$9c15db20$d4419160$@gmail.com> <55950a42-336c-7d64-d053-03d05107ba83@tysdomain.com> <000a01d2ce9e$4b295400$e17bfc00$@nevada.unr.edu> Message-ID: I'm using an older version of jaws, version 15, but when my jaws 15 freezes up on me, I just usually turn on NVDA and I can cancel the program that is giving me trouble. In fact, I've been using NVDA a bit more then jaws lately. For some programs, NVDA works better then jaws. Filezilla is one example.

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On 5/16/17, Michael Ausbun via NABS-L wrote: > Hello All: > I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to know multiple ways of > preforming a task. If you have even 30 minutes each day, take some time and > play with narrator or NVDA. As others have said, when one fails, as windows > users, we have lots and lots of alternative methods we can, and should, use > to effectively complete our tasks. This is a luxury we have as windows > users. > On a slightly different note, I find that JAWS 18 works beautifully > with windows 10 (something I never thought I would say, before I started > attending the Louisiana Center). I have yet to have any issues, and, when > combined with office 365, I find myself a very happy computer geek. > Hope all is well! > Respectfully, > Michael Ausbun > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield, > Tyler via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:52 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Littlefield, Tyler > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS > > I was going to comment on that too. You are not clueless without sighted > help. I use narrator to rescue me from jaws "conking out" e.g: crashing. > Sometimes you either do need to use the task manager however or restart > depending on which part of jaws crashed. But if you can alt-tab and reboot > jaws with narrator you should be fine. Also setting up a hotkey like > ctrl+alt+j might be useful. > HTH, > On 5/16/2017 6:48 PM, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >> I don't think that the statement "jaws would conk out on you and you'd >> need sighted assistance..." What about installing NVDA or learning how >> to use narrator. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> CEO Blind Faith Project >> CEO Linson Productions >> Aaron Linson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley > Bramlett >> via NABS-L >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:38 PM >> To: steve.jacobson at visi.com; National Association of Blind Students > mailing >> list >> Cc: Ashley Bramlett >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS >> >> Hello, >> >> It seems like many of you including those tech savvy people are having >> trouble with Jaws 18 and either Word or Outlook. >> Given that these are mainstream products used often in work settings, >> this >> could be a serious problem since if you are typing or something >> important, >> you do not want jaws to conk out on you. Without jaws, you are clueless > and >> would need a sighted person's help to save your work and shut down the pc >> properly. >> >> Does freedom scientific know about this? Kelsey, did you contact FS about >> this? This sounds bad and something FS needs to be working on ASAP. >> >> I've got jaws 18 and I think it has froze on me in Word. I'm using older >> software. Its windows 7 and Microsoft 2010. >> I'll keep this all in mind and next time it crashes on me, I'll make a > note >> and call FS. >> >> Ashley >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steve Jacobson via NABS-L >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:20 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Cc: Steve Jacobson >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS >> >> Which version of Outlook are you using and which build of JAWS 18? I >> have >> also had problems since a recent build, Build 2738, of JAWS and Office > 2016 >> through Office 365. Certainly problems are minimized by more speed and > more >> memory, but it does seem as though something has gotten more troublesome >> recently. I have reverted to JAWS 17 when I know I am going to be doing >> a >> good deal of work in Outlook, Word or Excel, and the problems are a good >> deal less when I do that. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linson >> Productions via NABS-L >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > >> Cc: Linson Productions >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS >> >> I think this problem doesn't matter what version of jaws that you have. I > am >> running 18 and outlook, they both work fine on my machine. >> >> >> On May 16, 2017 10:15:50 AM Gary Wunder via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >>> I find this happening more than I would like. What version of Outlook >>> are you using? >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelsey >> Nicolay >>> via NABS-L >>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:49 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Kelsey Nicolay >>> Subject: [nabs-l] JAWS >>> >>> Hello, >>> I was hoping someone who uses JAWS could help me out. I have been on >>> JAWS >>> 18 at work since November. I have noticed within the past couple >>> months, JAWS has a tendency to crash. Most of the time when this >>> happens, I can >> get >>> JAWS 17 started or turn on Nvda, but on Friday, it locked up to the >>> point where I could not perform any keystrokes, not even standard >>> Windows keystrokes like alt fbled. I later determined from Nvda that >>> Outlook had stopped responding, but when this causes JAWS to lock up >>> and prevent me >> from >>> doing keystrokes, there's a problem. What I ended up doing was >>> pressing >> the >>> power button to initiate a shutdown and then boot up again. IT did a >>> scan of my computer and couldn't find anything. Therefore, has anyone >>> else experienced similar issues when using JAWS 18 on Windows 7? JAWS >>> 17 never did this. >>> Thank you, >>> Kelsey Nicolay >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.co >>> m >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co >> m >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co >> m >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink. >> net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co >> m >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > > -- > > Take Care, > Tyler Littlefield > > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business > solutions. My personal site > My Linkedin > @Sorressean on Twitter > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu Wed May 17 06:22:15 2017 From: Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte (Student)) Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 06:22:15 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Request for software testers Message-ID: <3D8A9517-D010-4DC1-8683-31C0E4231D40@asu.edu> Greetings NABS, I was asked to forward this opportunity to provide your feedback on a piece of graphing software being developed at the University of Washington. Please take a few minutes and contribute to the technology being developed for students who are blind and low vision. Thank you. Hello! My name is Catherine Baker. I am a graduate student in Computer Science and Engineering at the University of Washington. We are currently working on a project to investigate the accessibility of dynamic graphs. This study is to investigate an interaction modality to determine if it improves the accessibility of dynamic graphs. We are looking for people who have some experience with graphs (the type with vertices and edges, not bar charts and line graphs) and programming, use a screen reader, identify as blind or low vision, and are 18 or older. You must also have access to a computer which you can install software on for the user study and has internet access to video chat. Participants will be compensated with a $35 Amazon gift card after completing the study. Participation is strictly voluntary. You may choose to not participate or to stop the study at any time. We encourage people of all genders and ethnicities to participate. Please realize that it is *only the technology* we are testing, not you! If you are interested in participating in our study, please fill out this survey and we will contact you if you are a good match. If you have any questions, you can contact me directly by phone at 319-310-4553 or by email at cmbaker at cs.washington.edu (Please note that I cannot guarantee the confidentiality of email.). You may also contact the University of Washington Human Subjects Division at (206)543-0098 if you have any questions about your rights as a subject. Please feel free to forward this to anyone else you know who may be interested in participating in our study. Sincerely, Catherine Baker Computer Science and Engineering University of Washington Paul Allen Center Seattle, WA 98195-2840 Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed May 17 13:13:42 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 06:13:42 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] CABS student call reminder Message-ID: Hi all, Just a reminder that tonight at 8:00 Pacific time, the California Association of Blind Students will be having a conference call. Come join us for inspiration and conversation! Phone number: 712 432 0385 Access code: 958093 All the best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Wed May 17 15:02:35 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 11:02:35 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Correction Message-ID: <000001d2cf1e$a3a7fe30$eaf7fa90$@sbcglobal.net> Hi guys, I was wrong about JAWS 17 being updated recently. Since I downloaded JAWS 18 and stopped using JAWS 17 in March, the update about which JAWS 17 told me is the March 2017 one. I'm sorry about this mistake on my part. Jen From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Wed May 17 15:04:34 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 11:04:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] A Correction In-Reply-To: <000001d2cf1e$a3a7fe30$eaf7fa90$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000001d2cf1e$a3a7fe30$eaf7fa90$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <028a01d2cf1e$e572f310$b058d930$@gmail.com> It's ok. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:03 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org; gui-talk at nfbnet.org Cc: Jen Subject: [nabs-l] A Correction Hi guys, I was wrong about JAWS 17 being updated recently. Since I downloaded JAWS 18 and stopped using JAWS 17 in March, the update about which JAWS 17 told me is the March 2017 one. I'm sorry about this mistake on my part. Jen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Wed May 17 17:31:42 2017 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 17:31:42 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Honest question any help? In-Reply-To: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> References: <3931E30F-08CC-4E36-A750-1B96F3BBB6A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Emma, I applaud you for wanting to remain independent despite the fact that you use a wheelchair. Hopefully, Chris sent you the contact information he mentioned in his email. It sounds like he has a great contact for you, and I hope you are able to connect with this person. I do not know how active the wheelchair division or email list might be these days. However, when I subscribed to the wheelchair email list a couple of years ago, there was absolutely no activity on it. However, I am not sure if it is still this way today as my use of a wheelchair was limited. Although it would be worth checking out the wheelchair email list, I would definitely encourage you to contact The person Chris mentioned in his email. I believe this would be the best way to find someone who could give you some advice on using a cane with a wheelchair. I never tried to use my cane with my limited use of a wheelchair. However, when I asked a mobility instructor about using a cane with my walker, I was told to use the longest came possible. I am not sure if the same advice would work for a wheelchair or not. However, I am sure the contact Chris provided in his email would be able to tell you the best way on how to use a cane with your wheelchair. Good luck, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > is there anyway to travel in power chair if you have your travel cane to guide you? can you still use a power chair without sight? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Thu May 18 15:04:08 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 10:04:08 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Physician Assistant Message-ID: <002401d2cfe8$00401e10$00c05a30$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello Everyone, Does anyone know of a blind person who is a physician assistant-a cross between a nurse practitioner and a medical doctor? If so, I would love it if you could let me know! Thanks, Michael Ausbun From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Fri May 19 01:17:23 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 21:17:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] I need Access help for a friend. Message-ID: <000001d2d03d$acabac00$06030400$@sbcglobal.net> Hey everyone, Jason Palanski is trying to learn Access. He needs a resource which explains the definitions of Access terms but is also blind-friendly; I would like to help him with th. If you have such a resource, please e-mail me at spidderweb1 at sbcglobal.net or put them on the lists. Jason has requested I post this. From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Fri May 19 01:22:57 2017 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 21:22:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Correction / Re: I need Access help for a friend. Message-ID: <000101d2d03e$73a57a20$5af06e60$@sbcglobal.net> My e-mail address is spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net I was typing too fast... -----Original Message----- From: Jen [mailto:spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:17 PM To: 'gui-talk at nfbnet.org' ; 'nabs-l at nfbnet.org' Subject: I need Access help for a friend. Hey everyone, Jason Palanski is trying to learn Access. He needs a resource which explains the definitions of Access terms but is also blind-friendly; I would like to help him with th. If you have such a resource, please e-mail me at spidderweb1 at sbcglobal.net or put them on the lists. Jason has requested I post this. From Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu Fri May 19 02:38:15 2017 From: Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte (Student)) Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 02:38:15 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Blog For May Message-ID: Greetings NABS, This month, Hindley Williams shares some tips and tricks on landing a job after college. Ms. Williams is a past Board Member of NABS and a recent graduate of the Colorado Center for the Blind. Originally from Maryland, Hindley spent her undergraduate career at Villanova University in Pennsylvania. In this post, Hindley offers great advice for students who have recently graduated or are graduating in the near future. If you have any questions or comments please reach out to Bryan at: bjduarte at asu.edu http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-blog-post-may-tips-job-searching Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. From bestca21 at gmail.com Fri May 19 16:20:20 2017 From: bestca21 at gmail.com (Keight Best) Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 09:20:20 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] OT: Selling BrailleSense U2 QWERT and Congratulations Message-ID: Hello fellow NABS members, First off, I would like to congratulate all of the scholarship winners!! I am super pumped for all of you! Secondly, if this in inappropriate please feel free to delete... I am selling my BrailleSense U2 QWERTY that I purchased at the 2015 national convention. I have only used the device twice and it is in great working condition. It comes in it's original packaging as well (since I'm a stickler for keeping my stuff in great condition). My sale price is $1,200. If you are interested in it and want to give it a loving home please message me off list. I'll be including free shipping and insurance on it as well as a tracking number. Thank you! Cheers, Caitlin From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Fri May 19 18:56:55 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 18:56:55 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] 2017 NABS Mentoring Program Message-ID: HI students! If you are attending national convention this July, think about being part of the 2017 NABS mentoring program! We will aim to match mentors and mentees up to make the best possible matches! If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me, Chelsea Peahl, at chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com, or Cody Beardslee at codybeardslee at gmail.com! Chelsea Peahl 2017 NABS Mentoring Program https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN9dDQ0ZgdNKdMxodPkf1sfpeJc9Fv9nQjbCsGnqmau34iXw/viewform?usp=sf_link https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPMEotBF9M94NcPoqJka7o7_WSwdJqVQUUmyDj6eXE-OaLzw/viewform?usp=sf_link [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/6W0oDREKs7pQudQac9oCPLMHsXanEPtoRe8aXGl2HGAMa3FjQMTTgrWuHmcA86kI5K4=w1200-h630-p] NABS 2017 MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentor Application [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zcXyDI33kaoBbzSU13MY-3wbwWfVeB4Ebb88z6xZJMBa9DCKO0RC8W9PRAsqHqlnLdY=w1200-h630-p] 2017 NABS MENTORING PROGRAM docs.google.com Mentee Application From pompey2010 at yahoo.com Sat May 20 13:14:51 2017 From: pompey2010 at yahoo.com (Bobbi Pompey) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:14:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Dinner and Discussions after the Job Seminar Message-ID: <12298C20-2044-45A6-8CBD-6F0283AE100F@yahoo.com> Hello Fellow Federationists, National Convention is right around the corner, and as you know the Employment Committee is hard at work in planning both the Job Fair and the Job Seminar. we are also considering having a dinner, along with a brief discussion, on Monday around 5pm. The dinner would be held at a local restaurant and attendees would be responsible for the cost of their own meal. All who attend national convention are welcome to come, but the event will be specifically designed with employment concerns in mind. If you would be interested in attending, please let me know. You can respond to this message, or e-mail me private at bobbipompey at gmail.com in an effort to avoid cluttering the list. Also, feel free to provide any other feedback and suggestions (like restaurant suggestions, discussion topics, etc). Thank you for your feedback, and i look forward to hearing from you soon! Bobbi A. L. Pompey Employment Committee Staff National Federation of the Blind (336) 988-6375 bobbipompey at gmail.com "Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin From kaylaweathers51590 at gmail.com Sat May 20 13:41:57 2017 From: kaylaweathers51590 at gmail.com (Kayla Weathers) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:41:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings Message-ID: Hi NABS, I will be working at a camp this summer, and was just wondering if it would be possible to use a GPS app like Blind Square or Seeing Eye to create a personalized POI from specific places such as my cabin to the laundry room or dining hall. I’m not sure if GPS will work due to the fact that I will be in a large area that doesn’t have street names. While I know that GPs apps aren’t in any way shape or form a replacement for good o&m skills, I just thought it would be extremely helpful in learning my way around the camp as I have never been there before. Thanks, Kayla -- Kayla Weathers. B.A. English Literature Dalton State College From kmaent1 at gmail.com Sat May 20 13:52:18 2017 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:52:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings Message-ID: <59204a1a.869e370a.ec72c.22e9@mx.google.com> Hi=20Kayla,=20GPS=20doesn't=20need=20streets=20if=20you=20set=20your=20own= =20POIs,=20but=20 it=20does=20need=20either=20wifi=20or=20good=20enough=20reception=20to=20us= e=20cellular=20 data.=20=20So=20if=20your=20camp=20is=20remote=20enough=20that=20you=20don'= t=20have=20a=20 tower=20for=20whatever=20your=20phone=20carrier=20is=20near=20by,=20it=20pr= obably=20 won't=20work. HTH, Karl =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Kayla=20Weathers=20via=20NABS-L=20 References: <59204a1a.869e370a.ec72c.22e9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: That should work I would recommend blind square it's create personal PO wise and then hit start tracking to go to those PO wise Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Kayla, GPS doesn't need streets if you set your own POIs, but it does need either wifi or good enough reception to use cellular data. So if your camp is remote enough that you don't have a tower for whatever your phone carrier is near by, it probably won't work. > > HTH, > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kayla Weathers via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:41:57 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings > > Hi NABS, I will be working at a camp this summer, and was just > wondering if it would be possible to use a GPS app like Blind Square > or Seeing Eye to create a personalized POI from specific places such > as my cabin to the laundry room or dining hall. I’m not sure if GPS > will work due to the fact that I will be in a large area that doesn’t > have street names. While I know that GPs apps aren’t in any way shape > or form a replacement for good o&m skills, I just thought it would be > extremely helpful in learning my way around the camp as I have never > been there before. > Thanks, Kayla > > > -- > Kayla Weathers. > B.A. English Literature > Dalton State College > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Sat May 20 15:11:33 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 11:11:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings In-Reply-To: <59204a1a.869e370a.ec72c.22e9@mx.google.com> References: <59204a1a.869e370a.ec72c.22e9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <77A776E6-34A6-464A-82F3-CEFF2EA4266D@gmail.com> I should mention, that I use it at a campground that I can do all the time, and I can go to different places using BlindSquare Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Kayla, GPS doesn't need streets if you set your own POIs, but it does need either wifi or good enough reception to use cellular data. So if your camp is remote enough that you don't have a tower for whatever your phone carrier is near by, it probably won't work. > > HTH, > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kayla Weathers via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:41:57 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings > > Hi NABS, I will be working at a camp this summer, and was just > wondering if it would be possible to use a GPS app like Blind Square > or Seeing Eye to create a personalized POI from specific places such > as my cabin to the laundry room or dining hall. I’m not sure if GPS > will work due to the fact that I will be in a large area that doesn’t > have street names. While I know that GPs apps aren’t in any way shape > or form a replacement for good o&m skills, I just thought it would be > extremely helpful in learning my way around the camp as I have never > been there before. > Thanks, Kayla > > > -- > Kayla Weathers. > B.A. English Literature > Dalton State College > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sat May 20 15:44:52 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:44:52 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings In-Reply-To: <77A776E6-34A6-464A-82F3-CEFF2EA4266D@gmail.com> References: <59204a1a.869e370a.ec72c.22e9@mx.google.com> <77A776E6-34A6-464A-82F3-CEFF2EA4266D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d2d180$0627b3d0$12771b70$@gmail.com> If you have an Android device, try GetThere. Judy -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Taylor Arndt via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:12 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Taylor Arndt Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings I should mention, that I use it at a campground that I can do all the time, and I can go to different places using BlindSquare Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Kayla, GPS doesn't need streets if you set your own POIs, but it does need either wifi or good enough reception to use cellular data. So if your camp is remote enough that you don't have a tower for whatever your phone carrier is near by, it probably won't work. > > HTH, > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kayla Weathers via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:41:57 -0400 > Subject: [nabs-l] Using GPS apps in unconventional settings > > Hi NABS, I will be working at a camp this summer, and was just > wondering if it would be possible to use a GPS app like Blind Square > or Seeing Eye to create a personalized POI from specific places such > as my cabin to the laundry room or dining hall. I’m not sure if GPS > will work due to the fact that I will be in a large area that doesn’t > have street names. While I know that GPs apps aren’t in any way shape > or form a replacement for good o&m skills, I just thought it would be > extremely helpful in learning my way around the camp as I have never > been there before. > Thanks, Kayla > > > -- > Kayla Weathers. > B.A. English Literature > Dalton State College > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at gmail.com Sun May 21 00:59:56 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 20:59:56 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question Message-ID: Hey, everyone A serious question, How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically disabled and blind person. thank you, Emma From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 21 01:08:00 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 19:08:00 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15c288bf580.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> So sorry to hear you are going through this. One time in college I remember my favorite ski coat got stolen. I had just arrived back and had to put my pack down to unlock the door. I unlocked, went in & stashed my cane. It can't have taken more than 30 seconds, but when I went back for my stuff, the coat was gone. I heard nothing, no footstepss, nada! Sighted people get things stolen, too, & it's a matter of being extra aware of your surroundings and where you are leaving your stuff. Is this a roommate or someone coming to your personal area, or are these things being stolen from a public area? Are the same people around when these items were stolen? You will have to be alert to what is going on around your personal bubble wherever you are, but, unfortunately, it happens to everyone, not just you. Judy Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 On May 20, 2017 7:00:48 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > Hey, everyone > A serious question, > How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone > stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings > such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically > disabled and blind person. > thank you, > Emma > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Sun May 21 01:10:26 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 21:10:26 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Emma: first and perhaps most importantly things aren't just taken from you because you're blind, although that might get people interested. If I'm in public, I always have my bag next to me--usually I rest my arm on it or keep it on or looped over my shoulder. The bag always stays closed (so someone can't just dip a paw in and grab what they want). Secondly for an iPhone, you should either be holding your phone or it should be in a purse, pocket, etc. It's really about being aware of what you have, where it's located most importantly just staying in contact with it. Where things are stolen from is important (you can always lock your phone using find my iPhone). If it's in public, just be hyper vigilent of your stuff. If it's anywhere else (in private, in your room etc), that's another issue entirely. HTH, On 5/20/2017 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > Hey, everyone > A serious question, > How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone > stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings > such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically > disabled and blind person. > thank you, > Emma > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From blackbyrdfly at gmail.com Sun May 21 01:14:06 2017 From: blackbyrdfly at gmail.com (Jamie P.) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 19:14:06 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2945C831-EE94-4FB2-895D-9D7960EE96AB@gmail.com> I've been in situations where this was a major concern for me. Some strategies I used successfully are listed below: 1. Invest in a small safe or locking file cabinet and lock valuables inside when you aren't going to be home using them. Things like cash, checks, bank cards you don't carry with you, and valuable electronics or jewelry. 2. If you are concerned about housemates stealing things when you're asleep or not home, get a security lock for your bedroom door. These are cheap and easy to install. 3. Keep small valuables you use a lot on your person, such as wallets or phones or headphones. When you go out in public, don't ever set them down where you can't directly monitor them. When not in use, keep in your pocket or backpack, and don't let your backpack sit unattended either. 4. Minimize the number of valuable things you carry with you regularly and make sure the ones you leave at home are locked away safely. Don't carry more than you need. Less to look after. 5. Of you are concerned about forceful theft, see about taking a self defense class. These are often free or low cost at recreation centers, colleges, or your local police department and can make a massive difference, even for those with disabilities. Half of self defense is learning to recognize danger before you are in danger. Best, Jamie Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 18:59, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey, everyone > A serious question, > How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone > stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings > such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically > disabled and blind person. > thank you, > Emma > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blackbyrdfly%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at gmail.com Sun May 21 01:17:54 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 21:17:54 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell wrote: > Hey, everyone > A serious question, > How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone > stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings > such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically > disabled and blind person. > thank you, > Emma > From tyler at tysdomain.com Sun May 21 01:37:13 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 21:37:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6825ee85-4f70-4a01-4c15-101cc8457875@tysdomain.com> Emma: I'm sorry for what might be invasive questions, but are you saying that you're losing items when your personal care assistants are helping you? Are you sourcing these through a company, or are these people you've found on your own? If you are losing items to PCAs there's a much larger problem unfortunately. On 5/20/2017 9:17 PM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm > employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately > > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell > wrote: > >> Hey, everyone >> A serious question, >> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >> stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >> such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >> disabled and blind person. >> thank you, >> Emma >> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Sun May 21 01:42:09 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 21:42:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <022401d2d1d3$7990e7d0$6cb2b770$@sarahblakelarose.com> Hi, Emma. I would encourage you to post this on a group related to physical disabilities as well. If it is your personal assistants who are doing the stealing, this seems a relevant angle to esplore. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Emma Mitchell via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:18 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Emma Mitchell Subject: Re: [nabs-l] serious question that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell wrote: > Hey, everyone > A serious question, > How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone > stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important > belongings such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as > a physically disabled and blind person. > thank you, > Emma > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 21 02:42:23 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 20:42:23 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> Is there a reason you have to have these people in your house, or can you actively learn daily living skills with the help of a rehab teacher? Just trying to think of a way you can proactively eliminate the need for care-givers. If you have other disabilities with physical limitations, that's another story, but someone should not need any household assistance, solely because they are blind. If this is the case with you, be encouraged, because you can be trained to be totally independent. Meanwhile, there have been very good tips given on this list. Judy Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 On May 20, 2017 7:19:01 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm > employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately > > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell > wrote: > >> Hey, everyone >> A serious question, >> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >> stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >> such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >> disabled and blind person. >> thank you, >> Emma >> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at gmail.com Sun May 21 03:03:19 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 23:03:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> References: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have cerebral palsy as well as blindness as a result I have a wheelchair. > On May 20, 2017, at 10:42 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > Is there a reason you have to have these people in your house, or can you actively learn daily living skills with the help of a rehab teacher? Just trying to think of a way you can proactively eliminate the need for care-givers. If you have other disabilities with physical limitations, that's another story, but someone should not need any household assistance, solely because they are blind. If this is the case with you, be encouraged, because you can be trained to be totally independent. > > Meanwhile, there have been very good tips given on this list. > Judy > Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 > > > > On May 20, 2017 7:19:01 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > >> that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm >> employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately >> >> >> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell >> wrote: >> >>> Hey, everyone >>> A serious question, >>> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >>> stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >>> such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >>> disabled and blind person. >>> thank you, >>> Emma >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40gmail.com From kcj21 at bellsouth.net Sun May 21 03:08:38 2017 From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (Kaley Jemison) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 23:08:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61A772BA-E3A0-4D29-A9F9-34D3D33109F5@bellsouth.net> Hi Emma, I'm sorry that this keeps happening to you. When I was traveling abroad, I brought a large cross body purse that I could fit everything in and keep close to me. I would usually leave my arm over it when walking and that worked. Hope that helps. Kaley Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey, everyone > A serious question, > How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone > stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings > such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically > disabled and blind person. > thank you, > Emma > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kcj21%40bellsouth.net From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 21 03:22:00 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 21:22:00 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: References: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15c2906a3c0.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> Okay, then, that puts another spin on the situation. Are the providers from a company? You may not feel like it, but you have the control whether or not to keep these people, and hopefully you have a backup plan? Judy Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 On May 20, 2017 9:04:15 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > I have cerebral palsy as well as blindness as a result I have a wheelchair. >> On May 20, 2017, at 10:42 PM, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Is there a reason you have to have these people in your house, or can you >> actively learn daily living skills with the help of a rehab teacher? Just >> trying to think of a way you can proactively eliminate the need for >> care-givers. If you have other disabilities with physical limitations, >> that's another story, but someone should not need any household assistance, >> solely because they are blind. If this is the case with you, be encouraged, >> because you can be trained to be totally independent. >> >> Meanwhile, there have been very good tips given on this list. >> Judy >> Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 >> >> >> >> On May 20, 2017 7:19:01 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >> >>> that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm >>> employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, everyone >>>> A serious question, >>>> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >>>> stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >>>> such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >>>> disabled and blind person. >>>> thank you, >>>> Emma >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From sonshines59 at gmail.com Sun May 21 03:24:33 2017 From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (Judy Jones) Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 21:24:33 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: <61A772BA-E3A0-4D29-A9F9-34D3D33109F5@bellsouth.net> References: <61A772BA-E3A0-4D29-A9F9-34D3D33109F5@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <15c2908f968.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> I've also seen people in wheelchairs with attachable carry-all type pouch. I didn't pay attention as to how it was attached, but have seen such. Judy Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 On May 20, 2017 9:09:36 PM Kaley Jemison via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Emma, I'm sorry that this keeps happening to you. When I was traveling > abroad, I brought a large cross body purse that I could fit everything in > and keep close to me. I would usually leave my arm over it when walking and > that worked. Hope that helps. Kaley > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 20, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hey, everyone >> A serious question, >> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >> stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >> such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >> disabled and blind person. >> thank you, >> Emma >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kcj21%40bellsouth.net > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com From ignasicambra at gmail.com Sun May 21 07:18:17 2017 From: ignasicambra at gmail.com (Ignasi Cambra) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 09:18:17 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: <15c2908f968.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> References: <61A772BA-E3A0-4D29-A9F9-34D3D33109F5@bellsouth.net> <15c2908f968.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3473FA34-AD5A-4E23-A5F8-DC8681D7F2A2@gmail.com> Hello, Another option is Bluetooth trackers. I am thinking of a Chipolo or similar. There are many devices like that in the market and they are usually not expensive. They can be attached to pretty much anything, and you use an app on your smart phone to locate things. For example you could have a tracker attached to your purse, to your keys, to your cane… Anything… Then from the app you can make any specific tracker ring when you want to find an item. It also works the other way though… For example if you have a tracker attached to your purse and somebody were to still your smart phone the tracker would start vibrating and ringing desperately wants your smartphone starts moving away from you. Trackers can be configured in all kinds of ways, and they are useful to locate things, to prevent theft, or to make sure not to forget important items. Hope it helps! IC Sent from my iPhone > On 21 May 2017, at 05:24, Judy Jones via NABS-L wrote: > > I've also seen people in wheelchairs with attachable carry-all type pouch. I didn't pay attention as to how it was attached, but have seen such. > Judy > Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 > > > >> On May 20, 2017 9:09:36 PM Kaley Jemison via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Emma, I'm sorry that this keeps happening to you. When I was traveling abroad, I brought a large cross body purse that I could fit everything in and keep close to me. I would usually leave my arm over it when walking and that worked. Hope that helps. Kaley >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 20, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hey, everyone >>> A serious question, >>> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >>> stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >>> such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >>> disabled and blind person. >>> thank you, >>> Emma >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kcj21%40bellsouth.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40gmail.com From lizzym0827 at gmail.com Sun May 21 14:31:40 2017 From: lizzym0827 at gmail.com (Lizzy) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 16:31:40 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question Message-ID: <5921a4da.d8aadf0a.b7eb7.3d04@mx.google.com> Hi Emma, I just wanted to add to the really great responses you've already received. I can't tell 100% if you're saying that these thefts are from people you know or if they are occurring while you are out and about. Either way, I've had great luck carrying handbags with one major zipper area. The trick is to always have your bag zipped and be aware of the zipper by either tucking it under your arm or putting your hand over it. I'd even consider putting it between your back and the back of your wheelchair if the bag is small/soft enough. I never leave my bag out of sight using the same tactics that many on this list use (keeping a body part attached to the bag, but just remember that you really need to be aware of the zipper more than anything). HTH, Lizzy From aachase1 at gmail.com Sun May 21 22:15:17 2017 From: aachase1 at gmail.com (Alan A. Chase) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 18:15:17 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] EYE Retreat 2017 is here! Message-ID: It's summertime! The EYE Retreat is excited to announce that we only have 2 slots left for female participants in our summer college prep camp. All slots for male participants are full & all of our staff positions are full. A wait list is available. Our final schedule and course catalog for the 2017 EYE Retreat are now posted online at www.eyeretreat.org. Checkout our introductory courses, independent study classes, and career exploration sessions. 2018 will be our 10th year serving youth with visual impairments and we hope that you will join us in December for an EYE Retreat Reunion and many more celebratory activities in the coming year. Be sure to monitor our Facebook page, Twitter, and website for updates. *Dr. Alan A. Chase* Exceptional Children Program Facilitator, Durham Public Schools President & Director, Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat From truewise.8614 at gmail.com Sun May 21 23:04:51 2017 From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 16:04:51 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] EYE Retreat 2017 is here! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I look forward to working with all of you. On 5/21/17, Alan A. Chase via NABS-L wrote: > It's summertime! The EYE Retreat is excited to announce that we only have > 2 slots left for female participants in our summer college prep camp. All > slots for male participants are full & all of our staff positions are > full. A wait list is available. Our final schedule and course catalog for > the 2017 EYE Retreat are now posted online at www.eyeretreat.org. Checkout > our introductory courses, independent study classes, and career exploration > sessions. 2018 will be our 10th year serving youth with visual impairments > and we hope that you will join us in December for an EYE Retreat Reunion > and many more celebratory activities in the coming year. Be sure to > monitor our Facebook page, Twitter, and website for updates. > > > *Dr. Alan A. Chase* > Exceptional Children Program Facilitator, Durham Public Schools > President & Director, Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/truewise.8614%40gmail.com > From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Mon May 22 02:02:48 2017 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 22:02:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regrding teh NFB National Convention Message-ID: <3DA30F40-632B-453B-BBBE-DA4FB7CFCC89@gmail.com> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just have some questions. Did the agenda of that 2017 NFB convention came out? And my other question is, can I still reserve a room for the convention and what is the name of the room rate? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the Blind IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon May 22 03:20:09 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 23:20:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regarding the NFB National Convention Message-ID: <051d01d2d2aa$59314480$0b93cd80$@gmail.com> Good evening! The agenda should be coming out at the beginning of June. To your second question, of course you can still reserve a room! Definitely try to do so before June 1. Singles and doubles are $83, with triples and quadruples at an $89 rate/night. Looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! Best, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:03 PM To: National Association of Blind Students Cc: Helga Schreiber Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regrding teh NFB National Convention Hi everyone! How are you all? I just have some questions. Did the agenda of that 2017 NFB convention came out? And my other question is, can I still reserve a room for the convention and what is the name of the room rate? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the Blind IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon May 22 04:22:28 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 00:22:28 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Want to walk? Message-ID: <053901d2d2b3$0c7c7e30$25757a90$@gmail.com> Federation Family: With National Convention upon us, our national student division is gearing up for an exciting 50th anniversary diamond celebration! Calling all 2017 National Convention attendees: we all know how much we walk each day. Meeting to meeting, running to grab a quick bite to eat, and rushing to another seminar. Wouldn't it be awesome to raise some money for the future leaders of the NFB, or better yet the current leaders just by doing what we do each day?. WALK! This year, we are proud to announce the inaugural 2017 NABS Walk-A-Thon. This fundraising effort will be held on Wednesday, July 12, during the 2017 National Federation of the Blind National Convention. So what exactly is a Walk-A-Thon? This will be a coordinated effort in which you create your own fundraising platform. Friends and family, or those who believe in our movement, they could be total strangers!, will ''pledge'' some amount per mile. These pledges represent a monetary value that your supporters promise to donate based on how many miles you walk throughout the day. The amount pledged is based on what the supporter wants to give. All you will have to do is use some sort of fitness wearable or a fitness app on your phone to record your distance between 7am and 10pm Wednesday, the 12th. It is that simple. The recording of your individual distance will start at 7am, or whenever you wake up, and end at the conclusion of our inaugural NABS Olympics! Once the clock strikes 10pm, participants will record their steps with NABS leaders. The top three winners will be rewarded with fabulous prizes and recognition! Want to participate? Visit: https://go.rallyup.com/nabswalkathon and read the description carefully. Then, click the Sign up button and follow the directions to register. Once your page is created, please share on all of your social media platforms. We would love to get as many participants and supporters as possible! We need your help to make this possible. I am calling on each of you to sign up, share your page, walk as you normally would, and support our national student division in all the good we do. Each day, we are raising the expectations of blind students across our nation. We cannot do it without your love, support, and encouragement! Direct any questions or concerns to Dustin Cather, NABS Walk-A-Thon Coordinator, at cather.dustin at gmail.com or via telephone at (309) 267-7670. Let's get walking! Kathryn Webster President | National Association of Blind Students From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Mon May 22 04:46:38 2017 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 00:46:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regarding the NFB National Convention In-Reply-To: <051d01d2d2aa$59314480$0b93cd80$@gmail.com> References: <051d01d2d2aa$59314480$0b93cd80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ms. Catherine. Thanks so much! I am not so sure fif I wil be able to stay for the entire convention. So now my question is, when the NABS wil meet at the convention? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much! Helga Schreiber Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPad Running IOS 9.3.4 > On May 21, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President wrote: > > Good evening! > > The agenda should be coming out at the beginning of June. To your second question, of course you can still reserve a room! Definitely try to do so before June 1. Singles and doubles are $83, with triples and quadruples at an $89 rate/night. > > Looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! > > Best, > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:03 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students > Cc: Helga Schreiber > Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regrding teh NFB National Convention > > Hi everyone! How are you all? I just have some questions. Did the agenda of that 2017 NFB convention came out? And my other question is, can I still reserve a room for the convention and what is the name of the room rate? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! > > Helga Schreiber > Group Moderator > > for the IPad help for the Blind > IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io > > Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! > ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D > > > > Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. > Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). > Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. > Phone: (561) 706-5950 > Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com > Skype: helga.schreiber26 > 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx > INT Website: http://int4life.com/ > > "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 > Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com > From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Mon May 22 04:57:25 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 04:57:25 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regarding the NFB National Convention In-Reply-To: References: <051d01d2d2aa$59314480$0b93cd80$@gmail.com>, Message-ID: Hi! The NABS meeting is held on Tuesday the 11th at 7:00. Chelsea Peahl > On May 21, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Helga Schreiber via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ms. Catherine. Thanks so much! I am not so sure fif I wil be able to stay for the entire convention. So now my question is, when the NABS wil meet at the convention? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much! > > Helga Schreiber > > Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. > Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). > Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. > Phone: (561) 706-5950 > Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com > Skype: helga.schreiber26 > 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx > INT Website: http://int4life.com/ > > "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPad Running IOS 9.3.4 > >> On May 21, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President wrote: >> >> Good evening! >> >> The agenda should be coming out at the beginning of June. To your second question, of course you can still reserve a room! Definitely try to do so before June 1. Singles and doubles are $83, with triples and quadruples at an $89 rate/night. >> >> Looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! >> >> Best, >> Kathryn >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via NABS-L >> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:03 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students >> Cc: Helga Schreiber >> Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regrding teh NFB National Convention >> >> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just have some questions. Did the agenda of that 2017 NFB convention came out? And my other question is, can I still reserve a room for the convention and what is the name of the room rate? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! >> >> Helga Schreiber >> Group Moderator >> >> for the IPad help for the Blind >> IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io >> >> Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! >> ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D >> >> >> >> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >> >> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 >> Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Mon May 22 05:06:38 2017 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 01:06:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regarding the NFB National Convention In-Reply-To: References: <051d01d2d2aa$59314480$0b93cd80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3BE8EAAB-2892-4E0A-BA48-08BA50DAE1B0@gmail.com> Hi Shelsy. Thank you so much for letting me know! I iwl be there! I look forward in seeing you all at the convention! Helga Schreiber Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPod Running IOS 9.3.4 > On May 22, 2017, at 12:57 AM, chelsea peahl via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi! > The NABS meeting is held on Tuesday the 11th at 7:00. > > Chelsea Peahl > >> On May 21, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Helga Schreiber via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ms. Catherine. Thanks so much! I am not so sure fif I wil be able to stay for the entire convention. So now my question is, when the NABS wil meet at the convention? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much! >> >> Helga Schreiber >> >> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >> >> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPad Running IOS 9.3.4 >> >>> On May 21, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President wrote: >>> >>> Good evening! >>> >>> The agenda should be coming out at the beginning of June. To your second question, of course you can still reserve a room! Definitely try to do so before June 1. Singles and doubles are $83, with triples and quadruples at an $89 rate/night. >>> >>> Looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! >>> >>> Best, >>> Kathryn >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via NABS-L >>> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:03 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students >>> Cc: Helga Schreiber >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regrding teh NFB National Convention >>> >>> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just have some questions. Did the agenda of that 2017 NFB convention came out? And my other question is, can I still reserve a room for the convention and what is the name of the room rate? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! >>> >>> Helga Schreiber >>> Group Moderator >>> >>> for the IPad help for the Blind >>> IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io >>> >>> Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! >>> ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D >>> >>> >>> >>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >>> >>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Mon May 22 18:24:12 2017 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 18:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] Want to walk? References: <908942555.4471426.1495477452997.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <908942555.4471426.1495477452997@mail.yahoo.com> Hello all! I hope you had the chance to look at Kathryn's post about the Walk-a-thon. We are very excited to host this awesome fundraising opportunity. It looks like we are having some problems with the sign up process for whatever reason. I am sorry for any inconvenience.  The best way to ensure that you are registered is to have me sign up for you or confirm it with me. If you would like me to sign you up please either call me or text me at 309 267 7670 or email me at cather.dustin at gmail.com. All I would need is your full name, email address and phone number. Also include if you have a specific goal in mind in terms of total pledge amount. Once I have you signed up, you will get and email with your personal shearing link. This link will connect you to our hub and is where supporters will pledge. Share this link on social media! Once again, I apologize if anyone is having troubles signing up. We hope that as many of you as possible will join us for this event! Thank you,Dustin Cather  From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Mon May 22 19:20:00 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 14:20:00 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Exclusive Sneak Peek Message-ID: Dear NABSters, Don’t miss out on the chance of a life time, this Sunday, May 28th at 8PM eastern, we have several guest speakers from the convention planning committee and legislative committee that will be giving a sneak peek at what we have in store for the NABS 50th. Already have tickets booked, on the fence or can’t go, call in to have the first exclusive preview. The call-in number is (712770-5197 and the access code is 265669. Don’t miss out on this opportunity. Cordially, Syed Rizvi From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Tue May 23 01:20:34 2017 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 21:20:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regarding the NFB National Convention In-Reply-To: <3BE8EAAB-2892-4E0A-BA48-08BA50DAE1B0@gmail.com> References: <051d01d2d2aa$59314480$0b93cd80$@gmail.com> <3BE8EAAB-2892-4E0A-BA48-08BA50DAE1B0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone. I just have some more questions. So I'm just thinking of attending the convention for a few days. So My questions, hwo do you guys who only attend the convention for a few days, not the entire convention do a room reservation without knowing the schedule of the events in advance? I'm just wondering since this is one of my concern that I wil like to pick the events that I want to go and more. Do you guys reserve for teh entre week and then cancel if you don't want to go some days. I know the agenda did not come out yet so I did not reserve my room yet since I'm not so sure waht days to attend. I look forward in hearing from suggestion from you all! Thanks and God bless! Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the Blind IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 > On May 22, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > > Hi Shelsy. Thank you so much for letting me know! I iwl be there! I look forward in seeing you all at the convention! > > Helga Schreiber > > Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. > Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). > Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. > Phone: (561) 706-5950 > Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com > Skype: helga.schreiber26 > 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx > INT Website: http://int4life.com/ > > "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 > Sent from my iPod Running IOS 9.3.4 > >> On May 22, 2017, at 12:57 AM, chelsea peahl via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi! >> The NABS meeting is held on Tuesday the 11th at 7:00. >> >> Chelsea Peahl >> >>> On May 21, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Helga Schreiber via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ms. Catherine. Thanks so much! I am not so sure fif I wil be able to stay for the entire convention. So now my question is, when the NABS wil meet at the convention? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much! >>> >>> Helga Schreiber >>> >>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >>> >>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPad Running IOS 9.3.4 >>> >>>> On May 21, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President wrote: >>>> >>>> Good evening! >>>> >>>> The agenda should be coming out at the beginning of June. To your second question, of course you can still reserve a room! Definitely try to do so before June 1. Singles and doubles are $83, with triples and quadruples at an $89 rate/night. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Kathryn >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via NABS-L >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:03 PM >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students >>>> Cc: Helga Schreiber >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regrding teh NFB National Convention >>>> >>>> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just have some questions. Did the agenda of that 2017 NFB convention came out? And my other question is, can I still reserve a room for the convention and what is the name of the room rate? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! >>>> >>>> Helga Schreiber >>>> Group Moderator >>>> >>>> for the IPad help for the Blind >>>> IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io >>>> >>>> Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! >>>> ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >>>> >>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Tue May 23 16:34:17 2017 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 16:34:17 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regarding the NFB National Convention In-Reply-To: References: <051d01d2d2aa$59314480$0b93cd80$@gmail.com> <3BE8EAAB-2892-4E0A-BA48-08BA50DAE1B0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Helga, I think it is great that you're interested in attending national convention even though you cannot afford to attend the entire convention. I have a few suggestions for you that may help you determine which days you would like to attend the convention. A majority of the meetings and main events of the national convention generally follows a consistent agenda pattern that is used from year to year. Therefore, if you would like to get a good idea of what this year's national convention agenda will be light, I would suggest that you look through last year's national convention agenda, as the format of this year's convention agenda will most likely be similar to the format of last year's agenda. A simple Google search should help you locate last year's national convention agenda. Also, you may wish to contact the hotel to see if you can reserve a room for more nights than what you may need with out receiving a penalty for canceling the rooms you do not need after you reserve your room. I do not believe you would receive any penalties for doing such a thing, but it would be best to contact the hotel to confirm this is the case. The hotel should be able to go over all of your options for staying at the hotel even though you may not necessarily know how long you want to stay at the hotel. Some of the highlights of attending national convention for me include The nabs business meeting and the banquet. Since these events take place at the opposite ends of the agenda , I generally attend the entire National convention when I am able to attend national convention. If you are looking to network with others while attending national convention, I would suggest attending the first half of national convention. However, if you are more interested in being inspired by various beaches, I would suggest attending the second half of the convention. However, this is just simply my opinion. If you tell us what you are interested in doing while attending national convention, we can help suggest which days would be best for you to attend a national convention when you cannot afford to attend the entire convention. Warm regards, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Helga Schreiber via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone. I just have some more questions. So I'm just thinking of attending the convention for a few days. So My questions, hwo do you guys who only attend the convention for a few days, not the entire convention do a room reservation without knowing the schedule of the events in advance? I'm just wondering since this is one of my concern that I wil like to pick the events that I want to go and more. Do you guys reserve for teh entre week and then cancel if you don't want to go some days. I know the agenda did not come out yet so I did not reserve my room yet since I'm not so sure waht days to attend. I look forward in hearing from suggestion from you all! Thanks and God bless! > > Helga Schreiber > Group Moderator > > for the IPad help for the Blind > IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io > > Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! > ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D > > > > Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. > Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). > Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. > Phone: (561) 706-5950 > Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com > Skype: helga.schreiber26 > 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx > INT Website: http://int4life.com/ > > "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 > Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 > >> On May 22, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: >> >> Hi Shelsy. Thank you so much for letting me know! I iwl be there! I look forward in seeing you all at the convention! >> >> Helga Schreiber >> >> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >> >> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 >> Sent from my iPod Running IOS 9.3.4 >> >>> On May 22, 2017, at 12:57 AM, chelsea peahl via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> The NABS meeting is held on Tuesday the 11th at 7:00. >>> >>> Chelsea Peahl >>> >>>> On May 21, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Helga Schreiber via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ms. Catherine. Thanks so much! I am not so sure fif I wil be able to stay for the entire convention. So now my question is, when the NABS wil meet at the convention? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks so much! >>>> >>>> Helga Schreiber >>>> >>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >>>> >>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPad Running IOS 9.3.4 >>>> >>>>> On May 21, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good evening! >>>>> >>>>> The agenda should be coming out at the beginning of June. To your second question, of course you can still reserve a room! Definitely try to do so before June 1. Singles and doubles are $83, with triples and quadruples at an $89 rate/night. >>>>> >>>>> Looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Kathryn >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via NABS-L >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:03 PM >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students >>>>> Cc: Helga Schreiber >>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Some Questions regrding teh NFB National Convention >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just have some questions. Did the agenda of that 2017 NFB convention came out? And my other question is, can I still reserve a room for the convention and what is the name of the room rate? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! >>>>> >>>>> Helga Schreiber >>>>> Group Moderator >>>>> >>>>> for the IPad help for the Blind >>>>> IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe at groups.io >>>>> >>>>> Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text only! >>>>> ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. >>>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >>>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >>>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >>>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >>>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >>>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >>>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >>>>> >>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From carlymih at comcast.net Tue May 23 03:46:07 2017 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 20:46:07 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.co m> References: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Evening, Judy, Just rereading this thread, and a question came to mind if Emma could reduce the amount of foot trafic wandering in and out of her world and in fact she believed that the number of people around her was related to her missing items, don't you think she might, on her own take the initiative to gain rehab skills? Clearly, there is no easy answer. Car a way you can proactively eliminate the need for care-givers. If you have other disabilities with physical limitations, that's another story, but someone should not need any household assistance, solely because they are blind. If this is the case with you, be encouraged, because you can be trained to be totally independent. >Meanwhile, there have been very good tips given on this list. >Judy >Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 > > > >On May 20, 2017 7:19:01 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > >>that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm >>employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately >> >> >>On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell >>wrote: >> >>>Hey, everyone >>>A serious question, >>>How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >>>stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >>>such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >>>disabled and blind person. >>>thank you, >>>Emma >>_______________________________________________ >>NABS-L mailing list >>NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >NABS-L mailing list >NABS-L at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From emitchell927 at icloud.com Tue May 23 18:08:32 2017 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 14:08:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: <0OQF00K2K0KO8D00@pv33p00im-smtpin042.me.com> References: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> <0OQF00K2K0KO8D00@pv33p00im-smtpin042.me.com> Message-ID: <55450478-CFDF-4BD9-879B-E8DC5B90FBC3@icloud.com> I also have a wheelchair and a physical disability that complicates the matter. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Carly Mihalakis via NABS-L wrote: > > Evening, Judy, > > Just rereading this thread, and a question came to mind if Emma could reduce the amount of foot trafic wandering in and out of her world and in fact she believed that the number of people around her was related to her missing items, don't you think she might, on her own take the initiative to gain rehab skills? Clearly, there is no easy answer. > Car > a way you can proactively eliminate the need for care-givers. If you have other disabilities with physical limitations, that's another story, but someone should not need any household assistance, solely because they are blind. If this is the case with you, be encouraged, because you can be trained to be totally independent. > >> Meanwhile, there have been very good tips given on this list. >> Judy >> Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 >> >> >> >>> On May 20, 2017 7:19:01 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house and I'm >>> employing them to help me with daily living activities unfortunately >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, everyone >>>> A serious question, >>>> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my iPhone >>>> stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other important belongings >>>> such as headphones I'm sick of being taken advantage of as a physically >>>> disabled and blind person. >>>> thank you, >>>> Emma >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40icloud.com From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Tue May 23 18:32:24 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 14:32:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] serious question In-Reply-To: <55450478-CFDF-4BD9-879B-E8DC5B90FBC3@icloud.com> References: <15c28e25e98.27a1.00c23a645877a47183f59379e059d1b0@gmail.com> <0OQF00K2K0KO8D00@pv33p00im-smtpin042.me.com> <55450478-CFDF-4BD9-879B-E8DC5B90FBC3@icloud.com> Message-ID: <005d01d2d3f2$ed8bbc70$c8a33550$@sarahblakelarose.com> Emma, have you contacted the agency that provides your PCA care to find out whether they have policies regarding theft that occurs while their employees are working for you? -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Emma Mitchell via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Emma Mitchell Subject: Re: [nabs-l] serious question I also have a wheelchair and a physical disability that complicates the matter. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Carly Mihalakis via NABS-L wrote: > > Evening, Judy, > > Just rereading this thread, and a question came to mind if Emma could reduce the amount of foot trafic wandering in and out of her world and in fact she believed that the number of people around her was related to her missing items, don't you think she might, on her own take the initiative to gain rehab skills? Clearly, there is no easy answer. > Car > a way you can proactively eliminate the need for care-givers. If you have other disabilities with physical limitations, that's another story, but someone should not need any household assistance, solely because they are blind. If this is the case with you, be encouraged, because you can be trained to be totally independent. > >> Meanwhile, there have been very good tips given on this list. >> Judy >> Sent From The Samsung Galaxy S7 >> >> >> >>> On May 20, 2017 7:19:01 PM Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> that's the thing personal assistance comes in and out of my house >>> and I'm employing them to help me with daily living activities >>> unfortunately >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Emma Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, everyone >>>> A serious question, >>>> How do you guard against stealing as a blind person? Ive had my >>>> iPhone stolen from me on multiple occasions and many other >>>> important belongings such as headphones I'm sick of being taken >>>> advantage of as a physically disabled and blind person. >>>> thank you, >>>> Emma >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gm >>> ail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcas >> t.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40icl > oud.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From sarah.meyer55 at gmail.com Wed May 24 00:44:48 2017 From: sarah.meyer55 at gmail.com (Sarah Meyer) Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 20:44:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Formatting Question with Word and JAWS Message-ID: Good evening, Hope everyone is doing well! I am wondering if anyone knows how to create headers so that the header on the title page of a paper is different from the headers of the rest of the paper. Also, how does one add page numbers without messing up the headers and vice versa? Is there a way to add page numbers so that the numbering starts on another page than the title page or actual first page of a document? I am using Word 2013 and JAWS 16. Thanks for any help! Best wishes, Sarah -- Sarah K. Meyer Graduate Student, Clinical Mental Health Counseling/Social Psychology Ball State University Board Member, National Federation of the Blind Human Services Division sarah.meyer55 at gmail.com (317)402-6632 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Together with love, hope, and determination, we transform dreams into reality. From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Wed May 24 01:46:21 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 21:46:21 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Formatting Question with Word and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008e01d2d42f$8c3990e0$a4acb2a0$@sarahblakelarose.com> Hi, Sarah. Go to insert/header and footer/page numbers, format page numbers... This opens a dialogue. The first option is the page numbering style. Tab through the dialogue until you get to "start at page" which is a combo box. One option is 0. This sets the first page of your document to a 0 page and the second page to 1. You can also choose continuous page numering or numbering that restarts with each section, e.g. whenever you press ctrl+enter. I can't answer your question about headers but they may work in a similar fashion. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Meyer via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:45 PM To: nabs-l Cc: Sarah Meyer Subject: [nabs-l] Formatting Question with Word and JAWS Good evening, Hope everyone is doing well! I am wondering if anyone knows how to create headers so that the header on the title page of a paper is different from the headers of the rest of the paper. Also, how does one add page numbers without messing up the headers and vice versa? Is there a way to add page numbers so that the numbering starts on another page than the title page or actual first page of a document? I am using Word 2013 and JAWS 16. Thanks for any help! Best wishes, Sarah -- Sarah K. Meyer Graduate Student, Clinical Mental Health Counseling/Social Psychology Ball State University Board Member, National Federation of the Blind Human Services Division sarah.meyer55 at gmail.com (317)402-6632 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Together with love, hope, and determination, we transform dreams into reality. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From sarah.meyer55 at gmail.com Wed May 24 14:03:34 2017 From: sarah.meyer55 at gmail.com (Sarah Meyer) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 10:03:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Formatting Question with Word and JAWS Message-ID: Sarah - thanks for your message. I have tried starting the numbering with 0, but I don't want a "0" on my title page, either. I would like for it to remain blank in terms of numbering. In the past, my work-around was to have a separate file for a title page and one for the actual body of the paper. I don't want to go back to doing that. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks, Sarah From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Wed May 24 15:19:52 2017 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 11:19:52 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Formatting Question with Word and JAWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01df01d2d4a1$3219a3d0$964ceb70$@sarahblakelarose.com> Hi, Sarah. In your footer design (assuming you want your page numbers at the bottom), set your document up for "different first page, no footer". If you want your page numbers at the top, do this in the headers and you will be able to define your header for your title page and then have your header for the rest of the document be however you need it to be. Just be sure that you have the "continuous" feature set. Otherwise the page numbering will start over at 1 if you press ctrl+enter. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Meyer via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:04 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Sarah Meyer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Formatting Question with Word and JAWS Sarah - thanks for your message. I have tried starting the numbering with 0, but I don't want a "0" on my title page, either. I would like for it to remain blank in terms of numbering. In the past, my work-around was to have a separate file for a title page and one for the actual body of the paper. I don't want to go back to doing that. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks, Sarah _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Wed May 24 21:10:09 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 17:10:09 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music Message-ID: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> Hello! I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, and I'm wondering how I could start. I hope you could understand this, thanks! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Wed May 24 21:26:19 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 17:26:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ce01d2d4d4$63096100$291c2300$@gmail.com> I can teach you. Or the Hadley school for the blind has courses. But, I have found that face to face communication or at least skype to skype or whatever works a lot better. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:10 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music Hello! I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, and I'm wondering how I could start. I hope you could understand this, thanks! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.co m From eemcrew at gmail.com Wed May 24 21:26:38 2017 From: eemcrew at gmail.com (Ellana Crew) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 17:26:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jordan, I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers distance learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I haven't done it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have had a good experience with their Nemeth code course so I would imagine the music course would be similarly useful. All of their braille courses are free to blind/visually impaired students and can all be found on their website. Ellana Crew, Vice President Maryland Association of Blind Students Website: nfbmd.org/students Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation Twitter: @MDABS_NFB The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn Braille > music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, and I'm > wondering how I could start. > > > > I hope you could understand this, thanks! > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Wed May 24 21:32:38 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 16:32:38 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> Hi, I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille Music course. HTH, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Jordan, > > I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers distance learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I haven't done it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have had a good experience with their Nemeth code course so I would imagine the music course would be similarly useful. All of their braille courses are free to blind/visually impaired students and can all be found on their website. > > Ellana Crew, Vice President > Maryland Association of Blind Students > Website: nfbmd.org/students > Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation > Twitter: @MDABS_NFB > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > >> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello! >> >> >> >> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn Braille >> music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, and I'm >> wondering how I could start. >> >> >> >> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com From misokwak12 at gmail.com Wed May 24 22:05:55 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 15:05:55 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Jordan, Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is by having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you can read and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you are reading to your playing/singing. As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you learn from someone in person. All the best, Miso Kwak On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > > I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was helpful > for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille Music course. > > HTH, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi Jordan, >> >> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers distance >> learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I haven't done it >> myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have had a good experience >> with their Nemeth code course so I would imagine the music course would be >> similarly useful. All of their braille courses are free to blind/visually >> impaired students and can all be found on their website. >> >> Ellana Crew, Vice President >> Maryland Association of Blind Students >> Website: nfbmd.org/students >> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> >>> >>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn >>> Braille >>> music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, and I'm >>> wondering how I could start. >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From blindgeek1989 at gmail.com Wed May 24 22:56:15 2017 From: blindgeek1989 at gmail.com (Aaron) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 18:56:15 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along with the braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the recording a lot and not fully understand the music in front of you. I'd recommend starting slow and not going for keyboard music as this is especially hard for a beginning braille music student. Thanks, Aaron Linson CEO Blind Faith Project CEO Linson Productions Aaron Linson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music Hi Jordan, Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is by having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you can read and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you are reading to your playing/singing. As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you learn from someone in person. All the best, Miso Kwak On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > > I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was > helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille Music course. > > HTH, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, > it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, > it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not > delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, > always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It > does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not > dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Jordan, >> >> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers distance >> learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I haven't done >> it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have had a good >> experience with their Nemeth code course so I would imagine the music >> course would be similarly useful. All of their braille courses are >> free to blind/visually impaired students and can all be found on their website. >> >> Ellana Crew, Vice President >> Maryland Association of Blind Students >> Website: nfbmd.org/students >> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >> the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >> you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> >>> >>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn >>> Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, >>> and I'm wondering how I could start. >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>> com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yaho >> o.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Thu May 25 00:19:32 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 20:19:32 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Web development consulting Message-ID: <8ecf016d-c0c8-52bf-ef04-169c1281c321@tysdomain.com> Hello all, I wanted to announce this here because it's a great fundraiser for NABS. I recently began offering consulting services; this includes website development, web and server hosting and much more. I know many of us have hobbies, side jobs and other projects we want to showcase. Perhaps you want to be the next internet radio star and create a radio station, but don't know how to begin, or perhaps you just want a website to show off yourself, your resume and a portfolio. I've got you covered and can help make your next project a success. I also love supporting organizations that I care about, and NABS continues to work on things that are of great importance to students. As a result, I will be donating a percentage of any proceeds gained, as long as you tell me you heard about my services through this list. Please either visit me on the web at http://tylerlittlefield.me, or give me a call at (617) 431-8009. I look forward to working with you! Thanks, Tyler Littlefield From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu May 25 01:01:52 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 18:01:52 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Interning at Jernigan Institute Message-ID: <59262d0f.d299620a.39d22.5709@mx.google.com> Hi, I would really like to participate in the summer internship program at the Jernigan Institute next year, in 2018. I have read the information about it online, but was wondering if anyone on here has interned and how they liked it? Also it appears that the internship coincides with national convention. Does the internship cover the cost of convention and do people travel as a group there? Thanks, Vejas From ahc43 at drexel.edu Thu May 25 01:04:49 2017 From: ahc43 at drexel.edu (Alex Cohen) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 21:04:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Accessibility Research Message-ID: <0dc201d2d4f2$e88992f0$b99cb8d0$@drexel.edu> Friends, The online accessibility and usability of commercial websites affects people of all abilities, including those of us with a disability. While some companies have shown an interest in inclusive digital design to make their online experiences usable to the disability community, unfortunately most companies have not. Please consider participating in this research as I am really trying to make a difference in the virtual world for those of us with a visual or print disability. Blind and low vision participants answer opinion questions about policy issues regarding online accessibility of commercial websites, and then how they would react to two different online accessibility-related conditions. It should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. Help ensure that the virtual world is as accessible and inclusive as it should be. Participation is completely voluntary and you can stop taking the survey at any time. To start the survey visit https://drexel.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_a5D7KnUJjJKsEpT For your participation, you will be entered into a drawing to win a $300 Amazon gift card. This research has approval from the Drexel University IRB. The survey has been checked for usability by respected accessibility professionals in the industry. If you have any questions or issues, please contact Alex Cohen by email at ahc43 at drexel.edu Thank you for your kind consideration. Alex Alex H. Cohen Ph.D. Candidate Marketing Department LeBow College of Business Drexel University 3220 Market St. Philadelphia, PA 19104 Cell: 215.292.1455< tel:215.292.1455> From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Thu May 25 01:11:25 2017 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 20:11:25 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Online Accessibility Research In-Reply-To: <0dc201d2d4f2$e88992f0$b99cb8d0$@drexel.edu> References: <0dc201d2d4f2$e88992f0$b99cb8d0$@drexel.edu> Message-ID: <03ca01d2d4f3$d59d4140$80d7c3c0$@gmail.com> I look forward to participating in your survey! -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alex Cohen via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:05 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Alex Cohen Subject: [nabs-l] Online Accessibility Research Friends, The online accessibility and usability of commercial websites affects people of all abilities, including those of us with a disability. While some companies have shown an interest in inclusive digital design to make their online experiences usable to the disability community, unfortunately most companies have not. Please consider participating in this research as I am really trying to make a difference in the virtual world for those of us with a visual or print disability. Blind and low vision participants answer opinion questions about policy issues regarding online accessibility of commercial websites, and then how they would react to two different online accessibility-related conditions. It should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. Help ensure that the virtual world is as accessible and inclusive as it should be. Participation is completely voluntary and you can stop taking the survey at any time. To start the survey visit https://drexel.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_a5D7KnUJjJKsEpT For your participation, you will be entered into a drawing to win a $300 Amazon gift card. This research has approval from the Drexel University IRB. The survey has been checked for usability by respected accessibility professionals in the industry. If you have any questions or issues, please contact Alex Cohen by email at ahc43 at drexel.edu Thank you for your kind consideration. Alex Alex H. Cohen Ph.D. Candidate Marketing Department LeBow College of Business Drexel University 3220 Market St. Philadelphia, PA 19104 Cell: 215.292.1455< tel:215.292.1455> _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Thu May 25 01:19:31 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 18:19:31 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Interning at Jernigan Institute In-Reply-To: <59262d0f.d299620a.39d22.5709@mx.google.com> References: <59262d0f.d299620a.39d22.5709@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <30BE0215-64BC-4A3D-B373-4226A4F1E5B3@gmail.com> Yes, people travel there together as a group. It is part of the internship experience. You travel with the national convention people from the Jernigan Institute. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 18:01, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > I would really like to participate in the summer internship program at the Jernigan Institute next year, in 2018. I have read the information about it online, but was wondering if anyone on here has interned and how they liked it? Also it appears that the internship coincides with national convention. Does the internship cover the cost of convention and do people travel as a group there? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com From mausbun at nevada.unr.edu Thu May 25 01:31:55 2017 From: mausbun at nevada.unr.edu (Michael Ausbun) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 20:31:55 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Interning at Jernigan Institute In-Reply-To: <30BE0215-64BC-4A3D-B373-4226A4F1E5B3@gmail.com> References: <59262d0f.d299620a.39d22.5709@mx.google.com> <30BE0215-64BC-4A3D-B373-4226A4F1E5B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d401d2d4f6$b2be6070$183b2150$@nevada.unr.edu> Hello Vejas, I had the honor and privilege to be an intern last summer at the Jernigan Institute. It was one of the best, most worthwhile, and most fun experiences I have ever had. I learned a great deal about our organization through the program. As an intern, you get a variety of experiences that strengthen your understanding of our policies and programs. I would recommend it time after time to everyone. Regarding national Convention, interns are expected to not only go to National Convention, but also execute certain tasks as assigned by the president or others who are supervising you. This often are tasks which help the convention operate smoothly and flawlessly. This too, is a lot of fun and provides a person with tremendous experience in event planning, logistics, operations, and other résumé-building opportunities. If you have any specific questions, please let me know! Respectfully, Michael Ausbun Secretary, National Association of Blind Students -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:20 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Interning at Jernigan Institute Yes, people travel there together as a group. It is part of the internship experience. You travel with the national convention people from the Jernigan Institute. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 18:01, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > I would really like to participate in the summer internship program at the Jernigan Institute next year, in 2018. I have read the information about it online, but was wondering if anyone on here has interned and how they liked it? Also it appears that the internship coincides with national convention. Does the internship cover the cost of convention and do people travel as a group there? > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail. com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausbun%40nevada.unr.edu From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Thu May 25 02:12:59 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 22:12:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I learned braille music through a local blind piano teacher. She gave me materials and taught me how to read it. After that, I taught myself using the materials. On 5/24/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: > As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along with the > braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the recording a lot > and not fully understand the music in front of you. I'd recommend starting > slow and not going for keyboard music as this is especially hard for a > beginning braille music student. > > Thanks, > Aaron Linson > CEO Blind Faith Project > CEO Linson Productions > Aaron Linson > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via > NABS-L > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Miso Kwak > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music > > Hi Jordan, > Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is by > having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you can read > and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you are reading to > your playing/singing. > > As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you learn > from someone in person. > > All the best, > > Miso Kwak > > On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was >> helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille Music >> course. >> >> HTH, >> Ahbee >> >> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >> it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, >> it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not >> delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, >> always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >> does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not >> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it >> keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jordan, >>> >>> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers distance >>> learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I haven't done >>> it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have had a good >>> experience with their Nemeth code course so I would imagine the music >>> course would be similarly useful. All of their braille courses are >>> free to blind/visually impaired students and can all be found on their >>> website. >>> >>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>> the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>> you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>> >>>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn >>>> Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, >>>> and I'm wondering how I could start. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>>> com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yaho >>> o.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >> .com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education > Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From dandrews at visi.com Thu May 25 02:50:04 2017 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 21:50:04 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Re: Roommate Needed Message-ID: > 7Egg== >From: "Beverly" >Subject: Re: Roommate Needed >Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 21:38:09 -0400 > >I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks. > > >> >>My name is Beverly Hunter from the Georgia affiliate and I am in >>need of a roomate for the National Convention. I will be staying >>from July 10, until July 15, 2017. I haven't booked my room yet, >>so I need a quick response. If you already have a room and need a >>roommate as well, I would share the cost either way. >> >>I would prefer a female, and someone who doesn't have a dog. >> >>Please send all responses to hunt5052 at gmail.com . >> >>Thanks for your help, and I look forward to hearing from you. >> >> >> >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Beverly Hunter-Shackelford >>Owner and Manager >>www.peachtreeradiofm.com >>"Where some listen to remember and some listen to forget!" >>Phone: 404-2745511 >>Twitter: @PeachtreeRadio >>Facebook: >>https://www.facebook.com/PeachtreeRadio >> From misokwak12 at gmail.com Thu May 25 05:15:48 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 22:15:48 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes Aaron is right. There is a danger of relying on recording too much when you use both. That being said, as a flute player who has been through rigorous honor ensembles and chamber music and solo repertoire I find that my Braille music skills have improved through this method when I had to basically teach myself to become functionally proficient at it. I agree with Aaron that piano/key board music would be more challenging. However, if you can read a single line of music with one hand and practice either singing that or playing what you are reading on the key with your other hand, that could be helpful. MK On 5/24/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > I learned braille music through a local blind piano teacher. She gave > me materials and taught me how to read it. After that, I taught myself > using the materials. > > On 5/24/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >> As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along with the >> braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the recording a lot >> and not fully understand the music in front of you. I'd recommend starting >> slow and not going for keyboard music as this is especially hard for a >> beginning braille music student. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> CEO Blind Faith Project >> CEO Linson Productions >> Aaron Linson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via >> NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music >> >> Hi Jordan, >> Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is by >> having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you can read >> and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you are reading to >> your playing/singing. >> >> As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you learn >> from someone in person. >> >> All the best, >> >> Miso Kwak >> >> On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was >>> helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille Music >>> course. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, >>> it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not >>> delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, >>> always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not >>> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it >>> keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>> >>>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jordan, >>>> >>>> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers distance >>>> learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I haven't done >>>> it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have had a good >>>> experience with their Nemeth code course so I would imagine the music >>>> course would be similarly useful. All of their braille courses are >>>> free to blind/visually impaired students and can all be found on their >>>> website. >>>> >>>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>> the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>>> you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn >>>>> Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, >>>>> and I'm wondering how I could start. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>>>> com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yaho >>>> o.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >>> .com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education >> Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From kaybaycar at gmail.com Thu May 25 05:35:28 2017 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 00:35:28 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jordan, As others suggested, the Hadley course for learning Braille music is available. I did not learn Braille music this way, so I can't tell you personally how strong the course is. NLS also has plenty of Braille music materials, including a Braille music Primer and other learning books. As for recordings... I think you want to stay away from them when you're first learning. Once you can hear the beginnings of melodies in your head or at least identify enough notes to read along at a slow clip, you should get out a recording you know and check to see if you can identify the notes you hear as you read them. So, yes, you find the piece of music in Braille of the recording you play. I do not recommend learning with the recording right there though if you believe that you will ignore the music in favor of the recording.

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On 5/25/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > Yes Aaron is right. There is a danger of relying on recording too much > when you use both. > That being said, as a flute player who has been through rigorous honor > ensembles and chamber music and solo repertoire I find that my Braille > music skills have improved through this method when I had to basically > teach myself to become functionally proficient at it. > > I agree with Aaron that piano/key board music would be more > challenging. However, if you can read a single line of music with one > hand and practice either singing that or playing what you are reading > on the key with your other hand, that could be helpful. > > MK > > On 5/24/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> I learned braille music through a local blind piano teacher. She gave >> me materials and taught me how to read it. After that, I taught myself >> using the materials. >> >> On 5/24/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >>> As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along with >>> the >>> braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the recording a lot >>> and not fully understand the music in front of you. I'd recommend >>> starting >>> slow and not going for keyboard music as this is especially hard for a >>> beginning braille music student. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Aaron Linson >>> CEO Blind Faith Project >>> CEO Linson Productions >>> Aaron Linson >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak >>> via >>> NABS-L >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music >>> >>> Hi Jordan, >>> Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is by >>> having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you can >>> read >>> and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you are reading >>> to >>> your playing/singing. >>> >>> As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you >>> learn >>> from someone in person. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Miso Kwak >>> >>> On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was >>>> helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille Music >>>> course. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>> it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, >>>> it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not >>>> delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, >>>> always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not >>>> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it >>>> keeps no record of wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jordan, >>>>> >>>>> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers distance >>>>> learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I haven't done >>>>> it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have had a good >>>>> experience with their Nemeth code course so I would imagine the music >>>>> course would be similarly useful. All of their braille courses are >>>>> free to blind/visually impaired students and can all be found on their >>>>> website. >>>>> >>>>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>>>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>>>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise >>>>> the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >>>>> you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> >>>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to learn >>>>>> Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the future, >>>>>> and I'm wondering how I could start. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>>>>> com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yaho >>>>> o.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail >>>> .com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education >>> Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com > -- Julie A. McGinnity President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division, Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri "For we walk by faith, not by sight" 2 Cor. 7 From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Thu May 25 14:47:48 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:47:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003001d2d565$e180e620$a482b260$@gmail.com> Ok, well, thank you so much for all this info! I'm sorry, there has just been so many responses on this thread, and it's been a little overwhelming. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso Kwak via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:16 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Miso Kwak Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music Yes Aaron is right. There is a danger of relying on recording too much when you use both. That being said, as a flute player who has been through rigorous honor ensembles and chamber music and solo repertoire I find that my Braille music skills have improved through this method when I had to basically teach myself to become functionally proficient at it. I agree with Aaron that piano/key board music would be more challenging. However, if you can read a single line of music with one hand and practice either singing that or playing what you are reading on the key with your other hand, that could be helpful. MK On 5/24/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > I learned braille music through a local blind piano teacher. She gave > me materials and taught me how to read it. After that, I taught myself > using the materials. > > On 5/24/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >> As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along >> with the braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the >> recording a lot and not fully understand the music in front of you. >> I'd recommend starting slow and not going for keyboard music as this >> is especially hard for a beginning braille music student. >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron Linson >> CEO Blind Faith Project >> CEO Linson Productions >> Aaron Linson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >> Kwak via NABS-L >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Cc: Miso Kwak >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music >> >> Hi Jordan, >> Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is >> by having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you >> can read and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you >> are reading to your playing/singing. >> >> As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you >> learn from someone in person. >> >> All the best, >> >> Miso Kwak >> >> On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was >>> helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille >>> Music course. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>> it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not >>> self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>> It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>> does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not >>> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, >>> it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>> >>>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jordan, >>>> >>>> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers >>>> distance learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I >>>> haven't done it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have >>>> had a good experience with their Nemeth code course so I would >>>> imagine the music course would be similarly useful. All of their >>>> braille courses are free to blind/visually impaired students and >>>> can all be found on their website. >>>> >>>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not >>>> the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we >>>> raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations >>>> create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live >>>> the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to >>>>> learn Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in the >>>>> future, and I'm wondering how I could start. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>>>> com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40ya >>>> ho >>>> o.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gma >>> il >>> .com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40g >> mail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gma >> il.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail > .com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Thu May 25 14:48:16 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:48:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201d2d565$f1c1f880$d545e980$@gmail.com> I know, I honestly didn't want to learn it like this either, it just seemed too much for me. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:35 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Julie McGinnity Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music Hi Jordan, As others suggested, the Hadley course for learning Braille music is available. I did not learn Braille music this way, so I can't tell you personally how strong the course is. NLS also has plenty of Braille music materials, including a Braille music Primer and other learning books. As for recordings... I think you want to stay away from them when you're first learning. Once you can hear the beginnings of melodies in your head or at least identify enough notes to read along at a slow clip, you should get out a recording you know and check to see if you can identify the notes you hear as you read them. So, yes, you find the piece of music in Braille of the recording you play. I do not recommend learning with the recording right there though if you believe that you will ignore the music in favor of the recording.

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On 5/25/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > Yes Aaron is right. There is a danger of relying on recording too much > when you use both. > That being said, as a flute player who has been through rigorous honor > ensembles and chamber music and solo repertoire I find that my Braille > music skills have improved through this method when I had to basically > teach myself to become functionally proficient at it. > > I agree with Aaron that piano/key board music would be more > challenging. However, if you can read a single line of music with one > hand and practice either singing that or playing what you are reading > on the key with your other hand, that could be helpful. > > MK > > On 5/24/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> I learned braille music through a local blind piano teacher. She gave >> me materials and taught me how to read it. After that, I taught >> myself using the materials. >> >> On 5/24/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >>> As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along >>> with the braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the >>> recording a lot and not fully understand the music in front of you. >>> I'd recommend starting slow and not going for keyboard music as this >>> is especially hard for a beginning braille music student. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Aaron Linson >>> CEO Blind Faith Project >>> CEO Linson Productions >>> Aaron Linson >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >>> Kwak via NABS-L >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music >>> >>> Hi Jordan, >>> Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is >>> by having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you >>> can read and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you >>> are reading to your playing/singing. >>> >>> As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you >>> learn from someone in person. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Miso Kwak >>> >>> On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was >>>> helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille >>>> Music course. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not >>>> boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not >>>> self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>> It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not >>>> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, >>>> it keeps no record of wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jordan, >>>>> >>>>> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers >>>>> distance learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I >>>>> haven't done it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have >>>>> had a good experience with their Nemeth code course so I would >>>>> imagine the music course would be similarly useful. All of their >>>>> braille courses are free to blind/visually impaired students and >>>>> can all be found on their website. >>>>> >>>>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>>>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>>>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not >>>>> the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we >>>>> raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations >>>>> create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live >>>>> the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> >>>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to >>>>>> learn Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in >>>>>> the future, and I'm wondering how I could start. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>>>>> com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40y >>>>> aho >>>>> o.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gm >>>> ail >>>> .com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >>> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmai >> l.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | > Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail. > com > -- Julie A. McGinnity President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division, Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri "For we walk by faith, not by sight" 2 Cor. 7 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Thu May 25 14:48:45 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:48:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Music In-Reply-To: References: <002b01d2d4d2$26574580$7305d080$@gmail.com> <765C3D91-0F7B-40A1-8407-EBD2FE5F3135@yahoo.com> <000c01d2d4e0$f3186230$d9492690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003401d2d566$0355c9a0$0a015ce0$@gmail.com> I actually have perfect pitch and learn most of my music by ear, I am also a singer. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:35 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Julie McGinnity Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music Hi Jordan, As others suggested, the Hadley course for learning Braille music is available. I did not learn Braille music this way, so I can't tell you personally how strong the course is. NLS also has plenty of Braille music materials, including a Braille music Primer and other learning books. As for recordings... I think you want to stay away from them when you're first learning. Once you can hear the beginnings of melodies in your head or at least identify enough notes to read along at a slow clip, you should get out a recording you know and check to see if you can identify the notes you hear as you read them. So, yes, you find the piece of music in Braille of the recording you play. I do not recommend learning with the recording right there though if you believe that you will ignore the music in favor of the recording.

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On 5/25/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > Yes Aaron is right. There is a danger of relying on recording too much > when you use both. > That being said, as a flute player who has been through rigorous honor > ensembles and chamber music and solo repertoire I find that my Braille > music skills have improved through this method when I had to basically > teach myself to become functionally proficient at it. > > I agree with Aaron that piano/key board music would be more > challenging. However, if you can read a single line of music with one > hand and practice either singing that or playing what you are reading > on the key with your other hand, that could be helpful. > > MK > > On 5/24/17, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> I learned braille music through a local blind piano teacher. She gave >> me materials and taught me how to read it. After that, I taught >> myself using the materials. >> >> On 5/24/17, Aaron via NABS-L wrote: >>> As a braille music advocate I'd say that having a recording along >>> with the braille music is not helpful at all. You will lean on the >>> recording a lot and not fully understand the music in front of you. >>> I'd recommend starting slow and not going for keyboard music as this >>> is especially hard for a beginning braille music student. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Aaron Linson >>> CEO Blind Faith Project >>> CEO Linson Productions >>> Aaron Linson >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miso >>> Kwak via NABS-L >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:06 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Cc: Miso Kwak >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Music >>> >>> Hi Jordan, >>> Once you figure out the basics, I think the best way to practice is >>> by having a piece of music both in recording and Braille so that you >>> can read and listen and figure out how to actually transfer what you >>> are reading to your playing/singing. >>> >>> As a few others have suggested, if possible I would suggest that you >>> learn from someone in person. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Miso Kwak >>> >>> On 5/24/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've taken the Braille Cusic Reading course through Hadley. It was >>>> helpful for me. I am also planning to take the Keyboard Braille >>>> Music course. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not >>>> boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not >>>> self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. >>>> It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>> does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not >>>> dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, >>>> it keeps no record of wrongs. >>>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Ellana Crew via NABS-L >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jordan, >>>>> >>>>> I recently just discovered that the Hadley institute offers >>>>> distance learning courses in the reading of braille music, and I >>>>> haven't done it myself so I can't say how good it is, but I have >>>>> had a good experience with their Nemeth code course so I would >>>>> imagine the music course would be similarly useful. All of their >>>>> braille courses are free to blind/visually impaired students and >>>>> can all be found on their website. >>>>> >>>>> Ellana Crew, Vice President >>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students >>>>> Website: nfbmd.org/students >>>>> Facebook: facebook.com/mdabs.federation >>>>> Twitter: @MDABS_NFB >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not >>>>> the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we >>>>> raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations >>>>> create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live >>>>> the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> >>>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering from any of y'all what would be a good way to >>>>>> learn Braille music. I'm looking to maybe learn it sometime in >>>>>> the future, and I'm wondering how I could start. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you could understand this, thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eemcrew%40gmail. >>>>>> com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40y >>>>> aho >>>>> o.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gm >>>> ail >>>> .com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Miso Kwak >>> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | >>> Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >>> (909) 660-1897 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindgeek1989%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmai >> l.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | > Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail. > com > -- Julie A. McGinnity President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division, Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri "For we walk by faith, not by sight" 2 Cor. 7 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com From jordystringer83 at gmail.com Fri May 26 00:03:00 2017 From: jordystringer83 at gmail.com (Jordy Stringer) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 20:03:00 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Screen Reader Survey References: Message-ID: <0D895DB4-8F99-4978-AC49-B14B97E2C26B@gmail.com> Greetings Federation family, I hope this note finds each of you well. A student in Columbus needs some assistance and I knew just the folks to turn to. Please see below. Warmly, Jordy D. Stringer. You can achieve anything once you've imagined possibilities! Begin forwarded message: > From: Jordy Stringer > Date: May 25, 2017 at 7:50:21 PM EDT > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Subject: Screen Reader Survey > > Would you please forward the following request as appropriate. > Best, > > My name is Cassandra Mendez and I'm a junior at the Ohio State > University studying Computer Science and Engineering. I have a defined > interested in access and technology accessibility, and this summer I'm > interning at Nationwide Insurance within their IT department. > Recently, Nationwide is making more of a noticeable effort to improve > screen reader accessibility within their sites in various respects for > firms and their policy holders. I'm just doing some raw crowd sourcing > and would love it if you just took three minutes to take this > anonymous survey. We want to focus our testing efforts and define > which screen readers are most in use by the people that use them. I > have an idea, but I'm just one person and would love some data to work > with! Thanks in advance!! > > link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdXROdehR2iTYg0va0xb08hutoL5IOOFC6F2eg01zAVjiRo4A/viewform?c=0&w=1 > > > – > Cassandra F. Mèndez > The Ohio State University > Computer Science and Engineering | class of 2019 From truewise.8614 at gmail.com Fri May 26 00:11:45 2017 From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 17:11:45 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Screen Reader Survey In-Reply-To: <0D895DB4-8F99-4978-AC49-B14B97E2C26B@gmail.com> References: <0D895DB4-8F99-4978-AC49-B14B97E2C26B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Done! Hope that helps! On 5/25/17, Jordy Stringer via NABS-L wrote: > Greetings Federation family, I hope this note finds each of you well. > > A student in Columbus needs some assistance and I knew just the folks to > turn to. Please see below. > Warmly, > Jordy D. Stringer. > You can achieve anything once you've imagined possibilities! > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Jordy Stringer >> Date: May 25, 2017 at 7:50:21 PM EDT >> To: undisclosed-recipients:; >> Subject: Screen Reader Survey >> >> Would you please forward the following request as appropriate. >> Best, >> >> My name is Cassandra Mendez and I'm a junior at the Ohio State >> University studying Computer Science and Engineering. I have a defined >> interested in access and technology accessibility, and this summer I'm >> interning at Nationwide Insurance within their IT department. >> Recently, Nationwide is making more of a noticeable effort to improve >> screen reader accessibility within their sites in various respects for >> firms and their policy holders. I'm just doing some raw crowd sourcing >> and would love it if you just took three minutes to take this >> anonymous survey. We want to focus our testing efforts and define >> which screen readers are most in use by the people that use them. I >> have an idea, but I'm just one person and would love some data to work >> with! Thanks in advance!! >> >> link: >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdXROdehR2iTYg0va0xb08hutoL5IOOFC6F2eg01zAVjiRo4A/viewform?c=0&w=1 >> >> >> – >> Cassandra F. Mèndez >> The Ohio State University >> Computer Science and Engineering | class of 2019 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/truewise.8614%40gmail.com > From emitchell927 at gmail.com Fri May 26 00:32:05 2017 From: emitchell927 at gmail.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 02:32:05 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Screen Reader Survey In-Reply-To: <0D895DB4-8F99-4978-AC49-B14B97E2C26B@gmail.com> References: <0D895DB4-8F99-4978-AC49-B14B97E2C26B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2C2A74E5-9120-4C31-8B7E-C4BE8D582A86@gmail.com> Done Sent from my iPad > On May 26, 2017, at 2:03 AM, Jordy Stringer via NABS-L wrote: > > Greetings Federation family, I hope this note finds each of you well. > > A student in Columbus needs some assistance and I knew just the folks to turn to. Please see below. > Warmly, > Jordy D. Stringer. > You can achieve anything once you've imagined possibilities! > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Jordy Stringer >> Date: May 25, 2017 at 7:50:21 PM EDT >> To: undisclosed-recipients:; >> Subject: Screen Reader Survey >> >> Would you please forward the following request as appropriate. >> Best, >> >> My name is Cassandra Mendez and I'm a junior at the Ohio State >> University studying Computer Science and Engineering. I have a defined >> interested in access and technology accessibility, and this summer I'm >> interning at Nationwide Insurance within their IT department. >> Recently, Nationwide is making more of a noticeable effort to improve >> screen reader accessibility within their sites in various respects for >> firms and their policy holders. I'm just doing some raw crowd sourcing >> and would love it if you just took three minutes to take this >> anonymous survey. We want to focus our testing efforts and define >> which screen readers are most in use by the people that use them. I >> have an idea, but I'm just one person and would love some data to work >> with! Thanks in advance!! >> >> link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdXROdehR2iTYg0va0xb08hutoL5IOOFC6F2eg01zAVjiRo4A/viewform?c=0&w=1 >> >> >> – >> Cassandra F. Mèndez >> The Ohio State University >> Computer Science and Engineering | class of 2019 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at icloud.com Fri May 26 00:50:58 2017 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 02:50:58 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Screen Reader Survey In-Reply-To: <2C2A74E5-9120-4C31-8B7E-C4BE8D582A86@gmail.com> References: <0D895DB4-8F99-4978-AC49-B14B97E2C26B@gmail.com> <2C2A74E5-9120-4C31-8B7E-C4BE8D582A86@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0A96B4ED-392B-4F52-97E4-0AE64E82633B@icloud.com> Done Sent from my iPad > On May 26, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > > Done > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 26, 2017, at 2:03 AM, Jordy Stringer via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Greetings Federation family, I hope this note finds each of you well. >> >> A student in Columbus needs some assistance and I knew just the folks to turn to. Please see below. >> Warmly, >> Jordy D. Stringer. >> You can achieve anything once you've imagined possibilities! >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Jordy Stringer >>> Date: May 25, 2017 at 7:50:21 PM EDT >>> To: undisclosed-recipients:; >>> Subject: Screen Reader Survey >>> >>> Would you please forward the following request as appropriate. >>> Best, >>> >>> My name is Cassandra Mendez and I'm a junior at the Ohio State >>> University studying Computer Science and Engineering. I have a defined >>> interested in access and technology accessibility, and this summer I'm >>> interning at Nationwide Insurance within their IT department. >>> Recently, Nationwide is making more of a noticeable effort to improve >>> screen reader accessibility within their sites in various respects for >>> firms and their policy holders. I'm just doing some raw crowd sourcing >>> and would love it if you just took three minutes to take this >>> anonymous survey. We want to focus our testing efforts and define >>> which screen readers are most in use by the people that use them. I >>> have an idea, but I'm just one person and would love some data to work >>> with! Thanks in advance!! >>> >>> link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdXROdehR2iTYg0va0xb08hutoL5IOOFC6F2eg01zAVjiRo4A/viewform?c=0&w=1 >>> >>> >>> – >>> Cassandra F. Mèndez >>> The Ohio State University >>> Computer Science and Engineering | class of 2019 >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40icloud.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Fri May 26 02:09:47 2017 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 22:09:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] MathML and jaws Message-ID: All: I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to disable MathML rendering with jaws. I was looking up a formula on wikipedia, but it's literally converting a whole formula plus a bunch of other stuff into all text instead of just x^2, then to make things even more irritating you can't arrow through the englishified version, but you have to listen to it spoken because arrowing once to the right skips over the entire phrase. I'd be happier just going back to the LaTex output that Wikipedia used to show. Is this possible? Thanks, -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From lucysirianni at gmail.com Sat May 27 04:11:31 2017 From: lucysirianni at gmail.com (Lucy Sirianni) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 21:11:31 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding Message-ID: <5928fc76.425e630a.83f5d.9e63@mx.google.com> Hi all, Please help! Earlier this evening I tried to update my iPhone to the latest iOS version, and it seems to have crashed somewhere in the middle of the process and is now completely unresponsive. If anyone could give suggestions as to how I might restart it, I'd be very grateful! Lucy From redwing731 at gmail.com Sat May 27 04:16:47 2017 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 21:16:47 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding In-Reply-To: <5928fc76.425e630a.83f5d.9e63@mx.google.com> References: <5928fc76.425e630a.83f5d.9e63@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <39A0BF26-FF6F-48EF-BAE9-006547705182@gmail.com> Hi all! Have you tried connecting it up to your computer and restoring it with ITunes? Y Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. > On May 26, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > Please help! Earlier this evening I tried to update my iPhone to the latest iOS version, and it seems to have crashed somewhere in the middle of the process and is now completely unresponsive. If anyone could give suggestions as to how I might restart it, I'd be very grateful! > > Lucy > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sat May 27 04:23:41 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 00:23:41 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding In-Reply-To: <39A0BF26-FF6F-48EF-BAE9-006547705182@gmail.com> References: <5928fc76.425e630a.83f5d.9e63@mx.google.com> <39A0BF26-FF6F-48EF-BAE9-006547705182@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001001d2d6a1$072f6130$158e2390$@gmail.com> Can you hold down the home button, and the lock and unlock button for 30 or so, then release? I've restarted a phone like that before. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kendra Schaber via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:17 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kendra Schaber Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding Hi all! Have you tried connecting it up to your computer and restoring it with ITunes? Y Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber National Federation of the Blind "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE. > On May 26, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > Please help! Earlier this evening I tried to update my iPhone to the latest iOS version, and it seems to have crashed somewhere in the middle of the process and is now completely unresponsive. If anyone could give suggestions as to how I might restart it, I'd be very grateful! > > Lucy > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Sat May 27 14:53:47 2017 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 09:53:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding In-Reply-To: <5928fc76.425e630a.83f5d.9e63@mx.google.com> References: <5928fc76.425e630a.83f5d.9e63@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <000201d2d6f9$0bf87a00$23e96e00$@visi.com> Lucy, When I did my update yesterday, my iPhone got stuck on "Verifying installation." Voiceover would still respond to my finger moving around the touch screen but I could not get the phone to do anything else. Even the power button would not work. In my case, the good thing was that the update had not really started. I was able to hold down the HOME and the POWER buttons and force a shutdown. I then restarted my phone normally and itcame up as usual. When I tried the update again, it worked normally. If your phone is stuck in the same place, this might work for you. However, if the update has already started to run and the phone doesn't make any noise at all, This approach may do more dammage than good if it cancels an update already in progress. Be sure to wait a good long time, though, before you think the phone is truly messed up. Especially if you have an iPhone 5, the update can take a half hour, but even the newer phones can take more time than one would figure. I hope that it works itself out and you don't have to make a trip to the Apple store. Best regards, Steve -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:12 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Lucy Sirianni Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding Hi all, Please help! Earlier this evening I tried to update my iPhone to the latest iOS version, and it seems to have crashed somewhere in the middle of the process and is now completely unresponsive. If anyone could give suggestions as to how I might restart it, I'd be very grateful! Lucy _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m From alpineimagination at gmail.com Sat May 27 14:54:19 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 07:54:19 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding Message-ID: <5929932f.487e630a.fa813.f604@mx.google.com> Hi Lucy, How long has it been since you began the update? Mine shut down for about 5 minutes or so and wouldn't even respond to the charger, and I was concerned, but it then re-started itself. Also, if worse comes to worse and you are in the proximity of someone sighted you could ask them what the phone is doing. I did this in my dorm once, and I think it's fair to ask. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L Thanks so much for the belpful responses, all! My phone was completely unresponsive for a half an hour or so and then restarted itself, so all is well now. Best to all of you! Lucy On May 27, 2017 7:54 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Lucy, > How long has it been since you began the update? Mine shut down > for about 5 minutes or so and wouldn't even respond to the > charger, and I was concerned, but it then re-started itself. > Also, if worse comes to worse and you are in the proximity of > someone sighted you could ask them what the phone is doing.  I > did this in my dorm once, and I think it's fair to ask. > Vejas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Fri, 26 May 2017 21:11:31 -0700 > Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding > > Hi all, > > Please help! Earlier this evening I tried to update my iPhone to > the latest iOS version, and it seems to have crashed somewhere in > the middle of the process and is now completely unresponsive.  If > anyone could give suggestions as to how I might restart it, I'd > be very grateful! > > Lucy > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni%40gmail.com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Sat May 27 16:57:01 2017 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 11:57:01 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding In-Reply-To: <5929ae5c.cf46620a.9ca47.5134@mx.google.com> References: <5929ae5c.cf46620a.9ca47.5134@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <001a01d2d70a$432f8c00$c98ea400$@visi.com> Lucy, A half hour is a little long but not that unusual in my experience with updates. I don't know why some go more quickly than others, but I would generally wait at least a half hour before I started to worry, and maybe even a little longer. When the update is actually being applied, the phone is completely unresponsive as you have already discovered, but that is when it is critical to not interrupt the update. I'm glad it completed successfully. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:51 AM To: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Cc: Lucy Sirianni Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding Thanks so much for the belpful responses, all! My phone was completely unresponsive for a half an hour or so and then restarted itself, so all is well now. Best to all of you! Lucy On May 27, 2017 7:54 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Lucy, > How long has it been since you began the update? Mine shut down > for about 5 minutes or so and wouldn't even respond to the > charger, and I was concerned, but it then re-started itself. > Also, if worse comes to worse and you are in the proximity of > someone sighted you could ask them what the phone is doing. I > did this in my dorm once, and I think it's fair to ask. > Vejas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Fri, 26 May 2017 21:11:31 -0700 > Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding > > Hi all, > > Please help! Earlier this evening I tried to update my iPhone to > the latest iOS version, and it seems to have crashed somewhere in > the middle of the process and is now completely unresponsive. If > anyone could give suggestions as to how I might restart it, I'd > be very grateful! > > Lucy > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Sat May 27 19:34:29 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:34:29 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding In-Reply-To: <5929ae5c.cf46620a.9ca47.5134@mx.google.com> References: <5929ae5c.cf46620a.9ca47.5134@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <011b01d2d720$42884d80$c798e880$@gmail.com> Oh wow, I've never heard of this happening to an iPhone before, mine has never done that. But that's awesome that it restarted fine! Congrats! (smiling face) -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 12:51 PM To: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Cc: Lucy Sirianni Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding Thanks so much for the belpful responses, all! My phone was completely unresponsive for a half an hour or so and then restarted itself, so all is well now. Best to all of you! Lucy On May 27, 2017 7:54 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Lucy, > How long has it been since you began the update? Mine shut down for > about 5 minutes or so and wouldn't even respond to the charger, and I > was concerned, but it then re-started itself. > Also, if worse comes to worse and you are in the proximity of someone > sighted you could ask them what the phone is doing. I did this in my > dorm once, and I think it's fair to ask. > Vejas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lucy Sirianni via NABS-L To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Date sent: Fri, 26 May 2017 21:11:31 -0700 > Subject: [nabs-l] Urgent: iPhone not responding > > Hi all, > > Please help! Earlier this evening I tried to update my iPhone to the > latest iOS version, and it seems to have crashed somewhere in the > middle of the process and is now completely unresponsive. If anyone > could give suggestions as to how I might restart it, I'd be very > grateful! > > Lucy > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagina > tion%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lucysirianni%40gma > il.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From alpineimagination at gmail.com Sat May 27 20:20:39 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:20:39 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare on the Apex Message-ID: <5929dfab.1c75630a.9bb18.218c@mx.google.com> Hi, Has anyone else had problems within the past day downloading Bookshare books on the Apex? It freezes up in the search field. I got an email a couple of days ago saying that Bookshare would change its security settings within the next 30 to 45 days, and that Apexes and Braille senses may be affected but I didn't think it would be this soon, so don't know if that's the reason. Scripting is disabled. Thanks, Vejas From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Sat May 27 21:32:38 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 17:32:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare on the Apex In-Reply-To: <5929dfab.1c75630a.9bb18.218c@mx.google.com> References: <5929dfab.1c75630a.9bb18.218c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I use an apex and I have not had any problems although it won't load any books after I search. On 5/27/17, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > Has anyone else had problems within the past day downloading > Bookshare books on the Apex? > It freezes up in the search field. I got an email a couple of > days ago saying that Bookshare would change its security settings > within the next 30 to 45 days, and that Apexes and Braille senses > may be affected but I didn't think it would be this soon, so > don't know if that's the reason. > Scripting is disabled. > Thanks, > Vejas > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From kmaent1 at gmail.com Sat May 27 22:04:24 2017 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 18:04:24 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Bookshare on the Apex Message-ID: <5929f801.1544810a.62ce6.8efe@mx.google.com> I just searched for several things, and it worked fine. Sometimes the loading freazes for 30 seconds or maybe a little more, but then it keeps loading and everything works fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L Hey NABS: We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! Happy summer, The NABS Outreach Committee Chris Nusbaum, President Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. From nabs.president at gmail.com Sun May 28 19:30:05 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (NABS President) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 14:30:05 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! In-Reply-To: <033b01d2d7e3$da2595d0$8e70c170$@gmail.com> References: <033b01d2d7e3$da2595d0$8e70c170$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7E82116E-13DF-45FD-AFDE-4B14E0515E94@gmail.com> 8pm eastern! Sorry for the misinformation. Kathryn Webster President, National Association of Blind Students (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Chris Nusbaum wrote: > > Hey NABS: > > We hope you’re having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual “family reunion”—the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome events—at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You’ll get it tonight on our May membership call! > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you’ll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > Happy summer, > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > Chris Nusbaum, President > Maryland Association of Blind Students > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. > From startrekcafe at gmail.com Mon May 29 02:25:44 2017 From: startrekcafe at gmail.com (Marvin Hunkin) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:55:44 +0930 Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure Message-ID: <001a01d2d822$e2a382a0$a7ea87e0$@gmail.com> Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got any ideas, how to proceed. Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon May 29 16:35:13 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save money! Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com> Happy Memorial Day fellow students, This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you through the process, and save you money! I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. Best, Kathryn Webster President | National Association of blind Students From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon May 29 16:36:03 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com> Link below! https://nfb.org/convention From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon May 29 18:02:12 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! In-Reply-To: <033b01d2d7e3$da2595d0$8e70c170$@gmail.com> References: <033b01d2d7e3$da2595d0$8e70c170$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com> Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Hey NABS: We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! Happy summer, The NABS Outreach Committee Chris Nusbaum, President Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon May 29 18:16:29 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! In-Reply-To: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com> References: <033b01d2d7e3$da2595d0$8e70c170$@gmail.com> <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC@gmail.com> It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum > via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; > nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > Hey NABS: > > > > We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting > start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more > than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look > forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family > reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to > be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly > special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this > milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of > convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight > on our May membership call! > > > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To > join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll > join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > > > Happy summer, > > > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > > > Chris Nusbaum, President > > Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise > expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you bak. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Mon May 29 19:44:59 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! In-Reply-To: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC@gmail.com> References: <033b01d2d7e3$da2595d0$8e70c170$@gmail.com> <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com> <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com> Justin: Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; > nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > Hey NABS: > > > > We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an > exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, > summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also > means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at > our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National > Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. > This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th > anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome > events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek > at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! > > > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > > > Happy summer, > > > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > > > Chris Nusbaum, President > > Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise > expectations for blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%4 > 0gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 > gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Mon May 29 20:09:10 2017 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure In-Reply-To: <001a01d2d822$e2a382a0$a7ea87e0$@gmail.com> References: <001a01d2d822$e2a382a0$a7ea87e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com> Marvin: Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I hope this helps. Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Marvin Hunkin Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got any ideas, how to proceed. Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From mikgephart at icloud.com Mon May 29 20:11:30 2017 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C@icloud.com> Hi all, I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people’s thoughts. Best, Mikayla From louvins at gmail.com Mon May 29 20:21:53 2017 From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services In-Reply-To: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C@icloud.com> References: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C@icloud.com> Message-ID: I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great day. On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college > Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I > understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am > very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not > have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good > documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that > two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should > discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a > curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here > people’s thoughts. > Best, > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon May 29 20:29:48 2017 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc@mx.google.com> Hi=20Mikayla, I=20go=20to=20a=20smaller=20school=20and=20applied=20for=20Disability=20Ser= vices=20 during=20the=20summer.=20=20In=20the=20form,=20I=20had=20to=20specify=20my= =20 accmmodations.=20=20Some=20of=20these=20accommodations=20were=20originally= =20not=20 given=20to=20me,=20but=20I=20had=20a=20meeting=20with=20them=20(in=20the=20= middle=20of=20the=20 summer)=20to=20clarify=20things=20with=20them.=20=20Since=20they=20hadn't=20= worked=20 with=20a=20totally=20blind=20student=20before,=20and=20understood=20what=20= I=20needed=20 them=20for=20after=20the=20meeting,=20they=20were=20much=20more=20willing=20= to=20 utilize=20most=20of=20them.=20=20For=20example,=20they=20were=20unsure=20wh= at=20the=20 purpose=20of=20me=20needing=20an=20I-Phone=20for=20exams=20was,=20but=20whe= n=20they=20saw=20 it=20connects=20to=20my=20braillenote,=20they=20granted=20it.=20=20Similarl= y,=20the=20 use=20of=20talking=20to=20professors=20about=20modifying=20assignments=20wh= ich=20 are=20too=20visual. Also,=20if=20you=20are=20clear=20on=20what=20you=20need,=20you=20could=20ma= ke=20things=20 better=20for=20future=20blind=20students.=20=20My=20DSS=20didn't=20know=20w= hat=20a=20 Perkins=20Brailler=20was,=20but=20when=20they=20saw=20the=20one=20I=20used= =20(which=20I=20 had=20gotten=20from=20rehab),=20they=20brought=20one,=20for=20myself=20and= =20any=20 other=20future=20blind=20students. Vejas =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Mikayla=20Gephart=20via=20NABS-L=20 Hi all, I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! Respectfully yours, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From zdreicer at gmail.com Mon May 29 22:35:05 2017 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon May 29 23:07:13 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From kmaent1 at gmail.com Mon May 29 23:09:03 2017 From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7@mx.google.com> Hi=20Mikayla, I=20think=20this=20varies=20by=20school,=20but=20at=20the=20ones=20I've=20a= ttended,=20 there=20is=20a=20standard=20list=20of=20accommodations,=20and=20you=20just= =20tell=20 them=20which=20one's=20you=20need.=20=20Beyond=20proving=20that=20you=20had= =20a=20 disability,=20you=20didn't=20have=20to=20do=20anything=20to=20show=20that=20= you=20 needed=20a=20particular=20accommodation,=20but=20it=20might=20be=20differen= t=20if=20 you=20wanted=20something=20strange=20like=20more=20than=20the=20standard=20= amount=20 of=20extended=20test=20time=20or=20something.=20=20I'm=20not=20sure=20what= =20the=20thing=20 about=20instructors=20going=20to=20the=20office=20rather=20than=20the=20stu= dent=20is,=20 but=20since=20you=20don't=20have=20to=20disclose=20what=20disability=20you= =20have=20 that=20makes=20you=20need=20an=20accommodation,=20maybe=20it's=20designed=20= to=20 protect=20people=20(especially=20those=20with=20invisible=20disabilities)=20= from=20awkward=20questions=20from=20professors. Best, Karl =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Mikayla=20Gephart=20via=20NABS-L=20 References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Mon May 29 23:44:47 2017 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com> References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A@yahoo.com> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com From misokwak12 at gmail.com Tue May 30 00:33:16 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A@yahoo.com> References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com> <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ahbee, Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending UCLA. I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. Cheers, Miso On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >> materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Tue May 30 00:45:51 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com> <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574@gmail.com> OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>> you >>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>> >>>>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>> not >>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>> others, >>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Tue May 30 00:49:18 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com> <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ahbee, I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > > On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >> is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>> you >>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>> >>>>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>>>> it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>> not >>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>>>> does >>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>> others, >>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>>> of >>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue May 30 04:28:25 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574@gmail.com> References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com><50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com><19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A@yahoo.com> <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC@OwnerPC> Taylor, Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Taylor Arndt Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >> is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>> you >>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>> >>>>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>>>> it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>> not >>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>>> in >>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>>>> does >>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>> others, >>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>>> of >>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com Tue May 30 11:10:01 2017 From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation In-Reply-To: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC@OwnerPC> References: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7@gmail.com> <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3@gmail.com> <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A@yahoo.com> <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574@gmail.com> <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C@gmail.com> Online and NAvdA Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > > Taylor, > Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. > Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Taylor Arndt > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > > OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >> >> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >> UCLA. >> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >> >> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >> >> Cheers, >> Miso >> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>>> >>>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>>> others, >>>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” >>>>>>> ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ >>>>>>> ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue May 30 12:47:37 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 08:47:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: <592d69ed.49029d0a.3b998.a782@mx.google.com> Hi Mikayla thanks for your message. I am a recent college graduate from the University of Central Florida with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Interdisciplinary Studies. I had great experiences with the Student Accessibility Services office on campus. They provided me with my textbooks and accommodation letters each semester in a timely manner. From johnniejduran at gmail.com Tue May 30 14:00:07 2017 From: johnniejduran at gmail.com (johnnie Jean duran) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 08:00:07 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline Message-ID: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> Good morning, Would anyone happen to know when the deadline for booking a room with the group rate for national convention is? Thanks, JJ Sent from my iPhone From nabs.president at gmail.com Tue May 30 14:43:19 2017 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (NABS President) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 09:43:19 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline In-Reply-To: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> References: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> Message-ID: Good morning, The room rates are guaranteed prior to June 1. After that, there is not certainty that you'll be honored with the discount. Kathryn Webster President, National Association of Blind Students (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L wrote: > > Good morning, > Would anyone happen to know when the deadline for booking a room with the group rate for national convention is? > Thanks, > JJ > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Tue May 30 15:18:48 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 11:18:48 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline In-Reply-To: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> References: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001e01d2d958$0a3ff9c0$1ebfed40$@gmail.com> No, I'm sorry. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:00 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: johnnie Jean duran Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline Good morning, Would anyone happen to know when the deadline for booking a room with the group rate for national convention is? Thanks, JJ Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Tue May 30 15:21:05 2017 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 11:21:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline In-Reply-To: <001e01d2d958$0a3ff9c0$1ebfed40$@gmail.com> References: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> <001e01d2d958$0a3ff9c0$1ebfed40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009201d2d958$5bbc1d10$13345730$@gmail.com> The dead line for getting half of your money back is june 1. If you haven't gotten your money back by June 1, you can't get any of your deposit back. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Scheffer via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:19 AM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Jordan Scheffer Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline No, I'm sorry. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:00 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: johnnie Jean duran Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline Good morning, Would anyone happen to know when the deadline for booking a room with the group rate for national convention is? Thanks, JJ Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From kcj21 at bellsouth.net Tue May 30 19:11:52 2017 From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (kcj21) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 19:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Documentary References: <1242611727.3461194.1496171512366.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1242611727.3461194.1496171512366@mail.yahoo.com> Good afternoon,     I am currently creating my lesson plans for my summer ENC 1101 students and would like to include a documentary on how people with disabilities are viewed by society/the media for a mini disability studies lesson. Does anyone have any recommendations? Best,Kaley | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | From Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu Tue May 30 21:01:38 2017 From: Bryan.Duarte at asu.edu (Bryan Duarte (Student)) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 21:01:38 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link In-Reply-To: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com> References: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A8DCE01-66F9-49BC-A95C-B70065AC23D4@asu.edu> I take it you want this in the NABS notes as well as on the web site? Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology IGERT Fellow National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President QwikEyes CEO http://www.qwikeyes.com/ “let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things are passing away: God never changes. patience obtains all things. whoever has God lacks nothing; God alone suffices.” -- St. Teresa of Avila > On May 29, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Kathryn Webster, NABS President via NABS-L wrote: > > Link below! > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nfb.org_convention&d=DwICAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=5dCABYJ5CxvQOBhyYB2Rbvx93pYuHZ0o8bUuY2oCLno&m=o36rcQRQBcCHmPMVT9eOO5BKvX_wdMK4gIG_jhKDHGU&s=oUw9cZBLOqcFeSRBRUs_O59h9dDB3mo_4-vXsjlCxcU&e= > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_listinfo_nabs-2Dl-5Fnfbnet.org&d=DwICAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=5dCABYJ5CxvQOBhyYB2Rbvx93pYuHZ0o8bUuY2oCLno&m=o36rcQRQBcCHmPMVT9eOO5BKvX_wdMK4gIG_jhKDHGU&s=y8Y0btJUH_wlxZ-WbS6rBQglVcy8RpYrEtlW8appkis&e= > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nfbnet.org_mailman_options_nabs-2Dl-5Fnfbnet.org_bjduarte-2540asu.edu&d=DwICAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=5dCABYJ5CxvQOBhyYB2Rbvx93pYuHZ0o8bUuY2oCLno&m=o36rcQRQBcCHmPMVT9eOO5BKvX_wdMK4gIG_jhKDHGU&s=KbVCDO3upt7YQtWa0Ez-3rxaZjWSD72QsZo2ud9PsSM&e= From misokwak12 at gmail.com Tue May 30 22:43:30 2017 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 15:43:30 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Disability Documentary In-Reply-To: <1242611727.3461194.1496171512366@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1242611727.3461194.1496171512366.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1242611727.3461194.1496171512366@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've watched a documentary called Life Worth Living (I believe that was what it was called) in my Disability Studies course a few years ago and enjoyed it. It talks about people who fought for disability rights prior to the ADA. There is also a documentary featuring women wheelchair basketball team. If you are interested in it, I can probably connect you with the person who worked on the documentary (she is second degree connection for me as well but believe I can reach her) Best, Miso On 5/30/17, kcj21 via NABS-L wrote: > Good afternoon,     I am currently creating my lesson plans for my summer > ENC 1101 students and would like to include a documentary on how people with > disabilities are viewed by society/the media for a mini disability studies > lesson. Does anyone have any recommendations? > Best,Kaley > > | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue May 30 23:40:42 2017 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 19:40:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline In-Reply-To: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> References: <57052360-7ED0-4469-A8B0-DC9BC1425C26@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92FBCB518CA34E0092A1823E6B13EA73@OwnerPC> the deadline is in a day at the end of the month. Hurry and reserve if you need a room. June 1 will be here before we know it. -----Original Message----- From: johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:00 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: johnnie Jean duran Subject: [nabs-l] Hotel Deadline Good morning, Would anyone happen to know when the deadline for booking a room with the group rate for national convention is? Thanks, JJ Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From garywunder at me.com Wed May 31 00:24:54 2017 From: garywunder at me.com (Gary Wunder) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 19:24:54 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] OT: Selling BrailleSense U2 QWERT and Congratulations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d2d9a4$5421c950$fc655bf0$@me.com> If you need this in the July Braille Monitor, send it to gwunder at nfb.org Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keight Best via NABS-L Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:20 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Keight Best Subject: [nabs-l] OT: Selling BrailleSense U2 QWERT and Congratulations Hello fellow NABS members, First off, I would like to congratulate all of the scholarship winners!! I am super pumped for all of you! Secondly, if this in inappropriate please feel free to delete... I am selling my BrailleSense U2 QWERTY that I purchased at the 2015 national convention. I have only used the device twice and it is in great working condition. It comes in it's original packaging as well (since I'm a stickler for keeping my stuff in great condition). My sale price is $1,200. If you are interested in it and want to give it a loving home please message me off list. I'll be including free shipping and insurance on it as well as a tracking number. Thank you! Cheers, Caitlin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/garywunder%40me.com From williams.tarik20 at gmail.com Wed May 31 02:06:02 2017 From: williams.tarik20 at gmail.com (Tarik Williams) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 19:06:02 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS vice-presidency Message-ID: Hello Federation Family, I hope all is well. This is Tarik Williams sending greetings from Louisiana Tech University. I hope all of you are enjoying the beginning of your summer and getting ready for National Convention. It is sure to be an exciting time for growth, networking, fun, and building the federation. The reason for this email is to endorse someone who I know works extremely hard and is very intelligent. This past year, I have had the pleasure to be a board member for the National Association of Blind Students. In addition, I co-chair the legislative committee alongside Michael Ausbun who is running for first vice president of the National Association of Blind Students. I can’t deny, I think he would be a great choice. We have plenty of great people in our organization but while working with Michael, I have seen his passion and dedication to the organization. I know that he will do a fantastic job! He is committed to giving this organization his all to better the lives of blind students. He recently graduated with his undergraduate degree at the University of Nevada before jumping right into training at Louisiana Center for the Blind to better himself before starting his next journey. In the fall, he will be attending Louisiana Tech University to become an Orientation and Mobility Instructor. He is someone I look up to and pushes me to be better person throughout my Masters degree. For these reasons and many more, I encourage you to vote for Michael at national convention for first Vice President. I hope all of you enjoy your summer to the fullest and I cant wait to see all of you at national convention! All the best, Tarik Williams From chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com Wed May 31 02:22:52 2017 From: chelsea.peahl at hotmail.com (chelsea peahl) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 02:22:52 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS vice-presidency In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael has my full support. I have seen how much work he puts into the federation--not because he has to, but because that is who he is! I have the upmost confidence in him to be able to lead such a strong way alongside our NABS president. Chelsea Peahl > On May 30, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Tarik Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Federation Family, > > > > I hope all is well. This is Tarik Williams sending > greetings from Louisiana Tech University. I hope all of you are enjoying > the beginning of your summer and getting ready for National Convention. It > is sure to be an exciting time for growth, networking, fun, and building > the federation. The reason for this email is to endorse someone who I know > works extremely hard and is very intelligent. This past year, I have had > the pleasure to be a board member for the National Association of Blind > Students. In addition, I co-chair the legislative committee alongside > Michael Ausbun who is running for first vice president of the National > Association of Blind Students. I can’t deny, I think he would be a great > choice. We have plenty of great people in our organization but while > working with Michael, I have seen his passion and dedication to the > organization. I know that he will do a fantastic job! He is committed to > giving this organization his all to better the lives of blind students. He > recently graduated with his undergraduate degree at the University of > Nevada before jumping right into training at Louisiana Center for the Blind > to better himself before starting his next journey. In the fall, he will be > attending Louisiana Tech University to become an Orientation and Mobility > Instructor. He is someone I look up to and pushes me to be better person > throughout my Masters degree. For these reasons and many more, I encourage > you to vote for Michael at national convention for first Vice President. I > hope all of you enjoy your summer to the fullest and I cant wait to see all > of you at national convention! > > > All the best, > > > Tarik Williams > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Wed May 31 12:27:50 2017 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 08:27:50 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS vice-presidency In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He has my support. On 5/30/17, chelsea peahl via NABS-L wrote: > Michael has my full support. I have seen how much work he puts into the > federation--not because he has to, but because that is who he is! I have the > upmost confidence in him to be able to lead such a strong way alongside our > NABS president. > > Chelsea Peahl > >> On May 30, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Tarik Williams via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello Federation Family, >> >> >> >> I hope all is well. This is Tarik Williams sending >> greetings from Louisiana Tech University. I hope all of you are enjoying >> the beginning of your summer and getting ready for National Convention. >> It >> is sure to be an exciting time for growth, networking, fun, and building >> the federation. The reason for this email is to endorse someone who I >> know >> works extremely hard and is very intelligent. This past year, I have had >> the pleasure to be a board member for the National Association of Blind >> Students. In addition, I co-chair the legislative committee alongside >> Michael Ausbun who is running for first vice president of the National >> Association of Blind Students. I can’t deny, I think he would be a great >> choice. We have plenty of great people in our organization but while >> working with Michael, I have seen his passion and dedication to the >> organization. I know that he will do a fantastic job! He is committed to >> giving this organization his all to better the lives of blind students. >> He >> recently graduated with his undergraduate degree at the University of >> Nevada before jumping right into training at Louisiana Center for the >> Blind >> to better himself before starting his next journey. In the fall, he will >> be >> attending Louisiana Tech University to become an Orientation and Mobility >> Instructor. He is someone I look up to and pushes me to be better person >> throughout my Masters degree. For these reasons and many more, I >> encourage >> you to vote for Michael at national convention for first Vice President. >> I >> hope all of you enjoy your summer to the fullest and I cant wait to see >> all >> of you at national convention! >> >> >> All the best, >> >> >> Tarik Williams >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From jordaneve22 at gmail.com Wed May 31 12:32:58 2017 From: jordaneve22 at gmail.com (Jordan Scheffer ) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 08:32:58 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS vice-presidency In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012a01d2da0a$0dd2e9a0$2978bce0$@gmail.com> -----Original MessSame here! age----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:28 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Alexandra Alfonso; Tarik Williams Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS vice-presidency He has my support. On 5/30/17, chelsea peahl via NABS-L wrote: > Michael has my full support. I have seen how much work he puts into > the federation--not because he has to, but because that is who he is! > I have the upmost confidence in him to be able to lead such a strong > way alongside our NABS president. > > Chelsea Peahl > >> On May 30, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Tarik Williams via NABS-L >> >> wrote: >> >> Hello Federation Family, >> >> >> >> I hope all is well. This is Tarik Williams sending >> greetings from Louisiana Tech University. I hope all of you are >> enjoying the beginning of your summer and getting ready for National Convention. >> It >> is sure to be an exciting time for growth, networking, fun, and >> building the federation. The reason for this email is to endorse >> someone who I know works extremely hard and is very intelligent. This >> past year, I have had the pleasure to be a board member for the >> National Association of Blind Students. In addition, I co-chair the >> legislative committee alongside Michael Ausbun who is running for >> first vice president of the National Association of Blind Students. I >> can’t deny, I think he would be a great choice. We have plenty of >> great people in our organization but while working with Michael, I >> have seen his passion and dedication to the organization. I know >> that he will do a fantastic job! He is committed to giving this >> organization his all to better the lives of blind students. >> He >> recently graduated with his undergraduate degree at the University of >> Nevada before jumping right into training at Louisiana Center for the >> Blind to better himself before starting his next journey. In the >> fall, he will be attending Louisiana Tech University to become an >> Orientation and Mobility Instructor. He is someone I look up to and >> pushes me to be better person throughout my Masters degree. For these >> reasons and many more, I encourage you to vote for Michael at >> national convention for first Vice President. >> I >> hope all of you enjoy your summer to the fullest and I cant wait to >> see all of you at national convention! >> >> >> All the best, >> >> >> Tarik Williams >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/chelsea.peahl%40h >> otmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmai > l.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jordaneve22%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed May 31 13:00:39 2017 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (roanna bacchus) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 09:00:39 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS vice-presidency Message-ID: <592ebe7d.c131ca0a.4f38f.93ea@mx.google.com> I would also like to say that I think Michael should be selected as the next Vice President of Nabs. I have enjoyed reading his posts on this list. From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed May 31 16:33:44 2017 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 09:33:44 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] CABS Facebook Page Message-ID: Hi all, It's Cricket with CABS. As you all know, CABS is a proud part of NABS. I'm trying to do some social media outreach, so if you could share this link all over the place, that would be endlessly helpful. Thanks so much! https://m.facebook.com/California-Association-of-Blind-students-CABS-166747930401206/ Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer From dragoshi11 at hotmail.com Wed May 31 18:31:47 2017 From: dragoshi11 at hotmail.com (Rilind Dragoshi) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:31:47 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Music Reading and Writing Software Message-ID: Hello. I'm emailing to ask for some help for a friend who requested I find some info. A friend of mine who is also blind, and uses both Voiceover and JAWS is looking in to taking a degree in Music. As part of his decision making he is trying to find out how to use music programs for writing and reading music. He's tried Finale but wasn't able to yet learn this. What programs, that are accessible on Windows with JAWS and NVDA, or mac with voiceover, Android, or IOS exist that could be used for both reading as well as writing music? Also, do you know of any guides to using the program that would help? Any help is appreciated: Thanks: Rilind. P.S. My friend is also opening to discussing with someone further, mentorship, or discussion as well so if you are open to this you can also message me off list if it's okay for him to contact you. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org Sent: May-30-17 9:00 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to nabs-l at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save money! (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) 2. Preregistration link (Kathryn Webster, NABS President) 3. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Justin Williams) 4. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Cricket Bidleman) 5. Re: Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! (Chris Nusbaum) 6. Re: windows azure (Chris Nusbaum) 7. College Disability Services (Mikayla Gephart) 8. Re: College Disability Services (Joshua Hendrickson) 9. Re: College Disability Services (Vejas Vasiliauskas) 10. ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) 11. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) 12. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Cricket X. Bidleman) 13. Re: College Disability Services (Karl Martin Adam) 14. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) 15. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ahbee Orton) 16. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Miso Kwak) 17. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) 18. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Alexandra Alfonso) 19. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Ashley Bramlett) 20. Re: ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation (Taylor Arndt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:35:13 -0400 From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: [nabs-l] Three more days to preregister for Convention, and save money! Message-ID: <01f001d2d899$909893c0$b1c9bb40$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Happy Memorial Day fellow students, This note serves as a final reminder to preregister for National convention. Preregistration closes on Wednesday, May 31. The below link will guide you through the process, and save you money! I am excited to see many of you in a month and a half. Best, Kathryn Webster President | National Association of blind Students ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:36:03 -0400 From: "Kathryn Webster, NABS President" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: [nabs-l] Preregistration link Message-ID: <01fc01d2d899$ae9dd1a0$0bd974e0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Link below! https://nfb.org/convention ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 14:02:12 -0400 From: "Justin Williams" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Message-ID: <00e501d2d8a5$b3319420$1994bc60$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Hey NABS: We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! Happy summer, The NABS Outreach Committee Chris Nusbaum, President Maryland Association of Blind Students Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Phone: (443) 547-2409 Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:16:29 -0700 From: Cricket Bidleman To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Message-ID: <34234577-23CD-4CD2-88CC-7F4DA3CF07EC at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum > via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; > nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > Hey NABS: > > > > We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an exciting > start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, summer means more > than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also means that we can look > forward to joining our fellow Federationists at our annual "family > reunion"-the national convention of the National Federation of the Blind, to > be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. This convention is particularly > special for NABS, as it marks our 50th anniversary! To celebrate this > milestone, we have a lot of awesome events-at least one during every day of > convention! Want a sneak peek at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight > on our May membership call! > > > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. To > join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope you'll > join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > > > Happy summer, > > > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > > > Chris Nusbaum, President > > Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise > expectations for blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you bak. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:44:59 -0400 From: "Chris Nusbaum" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! Message-ID: <000601d2d8b4$0f9cc190$2ed644b0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Justin: Cricket is correct. It should also be noted that the agenda is always posted to all NFBNet listservs when it becomes available. So, as a member of this list, you will see it as soon as it's published. Stay tuned! Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:16 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket Bidleman Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on Tonight's NABS Membership Call! It's supposed to come out around June 1, but I'm not sure exactly when. And remember, times are not technically set in stone until shortly before the convention. So everything is subject to change a little bit. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, associate quality assurance engineer Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 11:02, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Does anyone know when the actual convention agenda will come out? > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris > Nusbaum via NABS-L > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:55 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Chris Nusbaum ; board at nabslink.org; > nfbnet-students-list at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder: Get a Sneak Peek of National Convention on > Tonight's NABS Membership Call! > > Hey NABS: > > > > We hope you're having a great long Memorial Day weekend and an > exciting start to your summer! For those of us in the Federation, > summer means more than sleeping in and having fun in the sun. It also > means that we can look forward to joining our fellow Federationists at > our annual "family reunion"-the national convention of the National > Federation of the Blind, to be held this year in Orlando July 10-15. > This convention is particularly special for NABS, as it marks our 50th > anniversary! To celebrate this milestone, we have a lot of awesome > events-at least one during every day of convention! Want a sneak peek > at all the festivities? You'll get it tonight on our May membership call! > > > > The fun starts tonight at 7:00 PM Eastern on our NABS conference line. > To join in, call (712) 770-5197, and enter access code 265669. We hope > you'll join us as we get pumped for our 50th anniversary celebrations! > > > > Happy summer, > > > > The NABS Outreach Committee > > > > Chris Nusbaum, President > > Maryland Association of Blind Students > > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > > Phone: (443) 547-2409 > > Email: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com > > Twitter: @Chrisn98 and @nabslink > > > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise > expectations for blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you bak. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%4 > 0gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40 > gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:09:10 -0400 From: "Chris Nusbaum" To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows azure Message-ID: <002b01d2d8b7$7019a7b0$504cf710$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Marvin: Though there doubtless are some on this list who would be able to help you, you may find a more resourcefull knowledge base on our NFB in Computer Science listserv. This can be found and subscribed to by visiting the following link: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org. I hope this helps. Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:26 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Marvin Hunkin Subject: [nabs-l] windows azure Hi. a blind it student doing a diploma of software development from http://www.upskilled.edu.au and using jaws 18 on a Toshiba satellite pro laptop running windows 10 64 bit pro. Now, I do have a dreamspark account till june 6, but I need to use windows azure, and I cannot create any thing because I don't have a credit card and a billable subscription. My school does not have any dreamspark or windows azure subscriptions for their students. My it lectuer is looking at different options. So has any one got any ideas, how to proceed. Marvin from Adelaide, Australia. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:30 -0400 From: Mikayla Gephart To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: <97B9E735-E9D9-4A4F-B13B-B8290125044C at icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here people?s thoughts. Best, Mikayla ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:53 -0500 From: Joshua Hendrickson To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I can only go with my experience while in college. I used my disability services to scan textbooks for me that I bought and gave them. In those days I was given my textbooks on mp3 cds. I found my DS office very helpful. They bnew about screenreaders like jaws. There was an assistive technology room in the college library with a computer with jaws that I could use to help me with school assignments. Good luck. I'd also make sure you also spoke to your professors and let them know of any acomidations that you might need. I'm very surprised thatity office would go to the teachers before consulting the student that needed the help from them. Have a great day. On 5/29/17, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > I am a Junior in High School, and am researching different college > Disability Services offices. I have been reading a lot on their sites, and I > understand that they determine whether an Accommodation is reasonable. I am > very curious about this. I would think that DSS employees probably do not > have a lot of training in blindness? As long as you present good > documentation of your blindness and explain logically why you need an > accommodation, have you found that they listen to you? I just noticed that > two out of the three websites I have been looking at say that faculty should > discuss concerns with DSS before involving the student. This is just a > curiosity thing, not a question that is urgent. I just wanted to here > people?s thoughts. > Best, > Mikayla > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/louvins%40gmail.com > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:29:48 -0700 From: Vejas Vasiliauskas To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: <592c84d5.8422620a.6700d.c8bc at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed Hi Mikayla, I go to a smaller school and applied for Disability Services during the summer. In the form, I had to specify my accmmodations. Some of these accommodations were originally not given to me, but I had a meeting with them (in the middle of the summer) to clarify things with them. Since they hadn't worked with a totally blind student before, and understood what I needed them for after the meeting, they were much more willing to utilize most of them. For example, they were unsure what the purpose of me needing an I-Phone for exams was, but when they saw it connects to my braillenote, they granted it. Similarly, the use of talking to professors about modifying assignments which are too visual. Also, if you are clear on what you need, you could make things better for future blind students. My DSS didn't know what a Perkins Brailler was, but when they saw the one I used (which I had gotten from rehab), they brought one, for myself and any other future blind students. Vejas ----- Original Message ----- From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L To: Lizzy via NABS-L Subject: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! Respectfully yours, Ahbee ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:35:05 +0200 From: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer" To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: <30C9C9C8-6046-41AE-88BD-7CB6218009D7 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice materials online. Good luck studying! The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you all did! Thanks! > > Respectfully yours, > Ahbee > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 16:07:13 -0700 From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Ahbee, Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you should be able to get in hard copy Braille. I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad score or two is the end all of end alls. Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! Best, Cricket X. Bidleman NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice > materials online. Good luck studying! > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; > blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > >> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >> all did! Thanks! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Ahbee >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >> always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 19:09:03 -0400 From: Karl Martin Adam To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College Disability Services Message-ID: <592caa2e.10a3810a.70b9f.47d7 at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed Hi Mikayla, I think this varies by school, but at the ones I've attended, there is a standard list of accommodations, and you just tell them which one's you need. Beyond proving that you had a disability, you didn't have to do anything to show that you needed a particular accommodation, but it might be different if you wanted something strange like more than the standard amount of extended test time or something. I'm not sure what the thing about instructors going to the office rather than the student is, but since you don't have to disclose what disability you have that makes you need an accommodation, maybe it's designed to protect people (especially those with invisible disabilities) from awkward questions from professors. Best, Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: <50690889-FECC-484D-B0CB-C3F44FE4BFB3 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that > you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not > accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They > have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep > materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you > should be able to get in hard copy Braille. > > I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not > all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford > or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely > terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I > certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad > score or two is the end all of end alls. > > Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're > planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a > feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the > SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would > have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I > thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to > remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other > students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually > at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing > accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations > letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman > NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer > >> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >> materials online. Good luck studying! >> >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >> blindness is not what holds you back. >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>> all did! Thanks! >>> >>> Respectfully yours, >>> Ahbee >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:44:47 -0500 From: Ahbee Orton To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: <19413117-5F19-46DE-A228-F4B95520779A at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L wrote: > > No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the materials in accessible format. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> >> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >> >> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >> score or two is the end all of end alls. >> >> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman >> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >> >>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>> >>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and PSAT? >>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well you >>>> all did! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Respectfully yours, >>>> Ahbee >>>> >>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, >>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 17:33:16 -0700 From: Miso Kwak To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Ahbee, Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending UCLA. I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. Cheers, Miso On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are > comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. > > ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is > not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not > easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil > but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always > hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not > envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is > not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. > Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always > protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? > ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? > ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? > >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >> materials in accessible format. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ahbee, >>> >>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>> >>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>> >>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>> >>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>> PSAT? >>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>> you >>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>> Ahbee >>>>> >>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>>> is >>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>> not >>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>> others, >>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:45:51 -0400 From: Taylor Arndt To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: <0318CA59-FFFD-4A02-8254-F54372EF8574 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>> you >>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>> not >>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>> others, >>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 20:49:18 -0400 From: Alexandra Alfonso To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Ahbee, I've taken the SAT once and I got a 1130. I am going to take it twice more. I I went to a prep class outside of school. Also, I did a prep class in school and I had tutoring outside of school. On 5/29/17, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > > On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >> is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>> you >>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>>>> it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>> not >>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>>>> does >>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>> others, >>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>>> of >>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 00:28:25 -0400 From: "Ashley Bramlett" To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: <1382E5C5C5FD40AAA522284C0C935DAC at OwnerPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Taylor, Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Taylor Arndt Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L > wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I > guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... > I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. > I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. > > I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the > ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. > history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were > 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending > UCLA. > I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't > mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to > share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. > > It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process > and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each > student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high > school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. > > Cheers, > Miso > >> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >> >> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >> is >> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >> evil >> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >> hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >> not >> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it >> is >> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >> >>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>> materials in accessible format. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>> >>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>> >>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>> >>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>> >>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found >>>>> practice >>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>> >>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >>>>> obstacles >>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>> you >>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, >>>>>> it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>> not >>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight >>>>>> in >>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It >>>>>> does >>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>> others, >>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record >>>>>> of >>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 07:10:01 -0400 From: Taylor Arndt To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation Message-ID: <838AB71D-BCD6-4457-80C7-1ABCB918DA3C at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Online and NAvdA Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2017, at 12:28 AM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > > Taylor, > Interesting; I have not heard of a company being real accomodating before. > Was your course online? What format was it and what software was used? Adobe connect is a common meeting platform but is only semi accessible to screen readers. > > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Arndt via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:45 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Taylor Arndt > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ACT and SAT and PSAT Preparation > > OK here we go The company is Veritas Prep and I really like their course because like I said I got accessible materials they have both test prep act and SAT The price is about $695 for a five week course which includes also office hours after class to clarify content I know this may be beyond some people's financial budget, but I got my department a vocational rehabilitation to pay for this. Do not if you do anything go with Kaplan, Princeton review, They do not care about accessibility, and will not give you things in accessible material. So a free trial class that you may try if you type in it in Google search. They also use adobe connect, and for screen reader users I would recommend using Microsoft edge and windows 10 or Internet explore this works best with the client. Also, I had read a Pearson as an instructor, and Jeffrey as an instructor. Also I'm not afraid to show my scores because I'm very proud of them. Without this course, I would not of been able to get the score that I got. The first time I took the test I got a 610, and when I got my results back this year I took it again and got an 850. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi Ahbee, >> Please keep in mind that I applied for Fall 2013 admission so I am I >> guess getting a bit old for this college admission game... >> I did take both the SAT and ACT and did self-study for the most part. >> I've only gotten a few sessions of writing tutor and math tutor. >> >> I scored 1950/2400 (back then the SAT was on 2400) and 32/36 on the >> ACT. I took SAT subject tests for world history, chemistry, and U.S. >> history but I honestly don't remember those scores. None of them were >> 800 though. Probably somewhere between 650-750. I ended up attending >> UCLA. >> I am disclosing my scores publicly because well those scores don't >> mean much anymore at this point as a college senior... and also to >> share that test scores are not everything as Cricket mentioned. >> >> It is natural for you to feel anxious about college admission process >> and taking these tests but in the end colleges are reviewing each >> student holistically so they definitely want more than perfect high >> school GPA and SAT/ACT scores. >> >> Cheers, >> Miso >> >>> On 5/29/17, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L wrote: >>> Yes, please. I'd like the details. I'd also like, those people who are >>> comfortable telling me, to know your scores on your tests. >>> >>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is >>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not >>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil >>> but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always >>> hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does not >>> envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is >>> not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. >>> Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always >>> protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>> >>>> On May 29, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Taylor Arndt via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I took an SAT prep course that was not offered at my school it was a >>>> little bit expensive but if you are interested I will give you the >>>> details. The course I took in the company they were the best company and >>>> they really care about visually impaired persons. They gave me all the >>>> materials in accessible format. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ahbee, >>>>> >>>>> Larger schools will typically have prep classes. There are apps that >>>>> you can get for your phone, but the math questions are generally not >>>>> accessible. You can use the "free rice" website, which I love. They >>>>> have an SAT prep category. There are, of course, online prep >>>>> materials. There are also books on bookshare and prep books that you >>>>> should be able to get in hard copy Braille. >>>>> >>>>> I also want to remind you that getting into college is certainly not >>>>> all about test scores. If it was, I owd not have gotten into Stanford >>>>> or anywhere else to be perfectly honest. My SAT scores were absolutely >>>>> terrible, and I haven't passed many AP exams either. So while I >>>>> certainly advocate studying up for those tests, don't think that a bad >>>>> score or two is the end all of end alls. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I really do think it's important to take each test that you're >>>>> planning to take twice. The first time, it's just a good idea to get a >>>>> feel for the test layout, types of questions, etc. When I retook the >>>>> SAT, I did much better (though still not nearly as well as I would >>>>> have liked) on it, and even though I had to pay for my second test, I >>>>> thought it was worth it. I also want to just take a quick minute to >>>>> remind you that you will likely not be testing with all the other >>>>> students. Instead, it will probably be proctored for you individually >>>>> at school, during a school day so that you receive your testing >>>>> accommodations, as prescribed by the College Board accommodations >>>>> letter you should have already gotten. Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman >>>>> NCS Pearson, Associate Quality Assurance Engineer >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/29/17, Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, at my school there was an ACT/SAT prep class, also I found practice >>>>>> materials online. Good luck studying! >>>>>> >>>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >>>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >>>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles >>>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; >>>>>> blindness is not what holds you back. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 00:12, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was wondering about what y'all's scores were on the ACT, SAT, and >>>>>>> PSAT? >>>>>>> How did you prepare for these tests as welb? I need to prepare, and I >>>>>>> wanted to get some advice from y'all. I also wanted to know how well >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> all did! Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Respectfully yours, >>>>>>> Ahbee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in >>>>>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, >>>>>>> always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV???Love is patient, love is kind. It does >>>>>>> not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor >>>>>>> others, >>>>>>> it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of >>>>>>> wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It >>>>>>> always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.? >>>>>>> ??1 Corinthians? ?13:4-7? ?NIV?? >>>>>>> ??1 John? ?4:19? ?NIV? >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miso Kwak >> University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 >> Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor >> (909) 660-1897 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/taylorarndt99%40gmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org ------------------------------ End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 127, Issue 28 *************************************** From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Wed May 31 18:39:21 2017 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 14:39:21 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] LSAT help Message-ID: Dear All, Logical reasoning, reading comp, and the writing parts on the LSAT are all fine. I am having issues with the logic games, and any book I get off bookshare talks about diagraming them out, which I have no idea how to do non visually. How do I handle the logic games section? Thanks, Syed From aloshamoorenfb at gmail.com Wed May 31 22:13:08 2017 From: aloshamoorenfb at gmail.com (Alosha Moore) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 17:13:08 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] LSAT help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is very important to diagram the logic games out in order to keep track of the correlations. You might try using an XL spreadsheet, A Microsoft Word document, or a tactile drawing board. You might join the Law list as another good resource. Happy studying, Alosha Moore. Juris doctorate. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is confidential, intended only for the recipient(s) named above and may contain information that is privileged, > attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please > immediately notify the sender by return e-mail or by calling 316-312-3454, and delete this message from your computer. Thank you. > On May 31, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear All, > Logical reasoning, reading comp, and the writing parts on the LSAT are all fine. > I am having issues with the logic games, and any book I get off bookshare talks about diagraming them out, which I have no idea how to do non visually. How do I handle the logic games section? > Thanks, > Syed > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/aloshamoorenfb%40gmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Wed May 31 22:22:12 2017 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 22:22:12 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Hello Syed, Re: LSAT help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Syed, This question is constantly being asked on the blind lawyers email list. Therefore, I would suggest that you search the archives to find a method that works best for you. Some of the answers I have heard to this question include using an Excel spreadsheet, using game pieces from a chess board or a scrabble board, and scrap paper torn up in different shapes and sizes. If I recall correctly, The use of excel and scrap paper have been listed as accommodations approved for when taking the test. I believe someone May have explained how they used in Excel spreadsheet for the logic games on the blind lawyers email list within the past year or two. However, I am not quite sure how easy or quickly I could find this email using my iPhone, so your best bet would be to search for it in the archives of the blind lawyers email list. Also, I have attended both the lawyers division meeting as well as the lawyers reception that takes place after the meeting at national convention. I would highly recommend attending these events at national convention for anyone who is interested in law or attending law school. I hope you find these suggestions helpful as you figure out the best method for conquering the logic games on the LSAT. Good luck, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Syedddd Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear All, > Logical reasoning, reading comp, and the writing parts on the LSAT are all fine. > I am having issues with the logic games, and any book I get off bookshare talks about diagraming them out, which I have no idea how to do non visually. How do I handle the logic games section? > Thanks, > Syed > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Wed May 31 22:54:41 2017 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 22:54:41 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] LSAT help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Syed, So it did not take me very long to find and email from the blind lawyers email list describing how to use an excel spread sheet for the logic games. I sent it to you privately off list, but I can post it publicly on the email list if anyone else would be interested in it. Warm regards, Elizabeth Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear All, > Logical reasoning, reading comp, and the writing parts on the LSAT are all fine. > I am having issues with the logic games, and any book I get off bookshare talks about diagraming them out, which I have no idea how to do non visually. How do I handle the logic games section? > Thanks, > Syed > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com