From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 04:55:32 2018 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:55:32 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Washington Seminar Behind Us, Spring Convention Season in Full Swing, Looking Forward to the Midwest Seminar and National Convention: NABS Notes for the Month Of February Message-ID: Dear Students, With Washington Seminar behind us and Spring convention in full swing, I hope you all are killing it, in and out of the classroom. I know midterms are bearing down upon us all, so, pause that text book, stretch out, and take a few minutes to read about what NABS has been up to for the last month. Below, find the link to our online edition of the NABS notes, followed by the notes themselves. A copy is also attached to this email for your reading pleasure. http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-february-2018 NABS Notes: February 2018 In this issue, you will find: • President’s Note • 2018 Mid-West Regional Student Seminar • Summer Opportunities | NFB Training Centers • 2018 NFB National Scholarship Program • NABS Legislative Toolkit • December and February Blog Posts • Committee Updates President’s Note When I ponder the effectiveness of leadership, I immediately turn to myself. What can I do better? How could I have improved a situation? What worked well; or what should I no longer do when approaching issues? On the other hand, I look to myself in shaping the future student leaders in the National Federation of the Blind. One way in which the national student leadership has followed through on this notion is by bringing thirty of our finest leaders with glowing potential to the Jernigan Institute for a student leadership weekend. Prior to Washington Seminar, curious minds and blossoming leaders gathered alongside our affiliate presidents and national president to learn, grow, and collaborate. The NABS Board conducted seminars on leadership, public speaking, conflict resolution, building relationships, running meetings, and so much more. We were enlightened by words of wisdom from our national president as he shed light on our philosophy and the evolution of the Federation. Our student and affiliate leaders participated in a sexual assault prevention and awareness training in order to be appropriately equipped with the tools to be an active by-stander. After leaving a weekend with big ideas, an energized heart, and excitement around building our students up, we convened in our nation’s capital, where a record-breaking number of students registered for our annual NABS Winter Seminar. More than 95 students were loud and proud in the audience, ready to participate with strong and vibrant voices. With the gracious support of President Riccobono, our Washington Seminar sponsorship program continues to grow, helping 35 students in attending this year’s event. What brought you into our federation family? For some, it was a blind friend of yours who introduced you to our extended family. For others, it was a flier in the mail inviting you to a State Convention. And, for many, it is our national scholarship program. In fact, I graduated four years ago from high school with money on my mind. Private universities are expensive! As you can tell, that scholarship brought me into a huge part of my life and introduced me to a group of loved ones who I will always cherish. As cliché as that may sound, I am so grateful for our national scholarship program; and the application period closes in just one month! I challenge you to apply, regardless of your confidence in your application. Get your essay proof read, ask for a recommendation from a person you know thinks highly of you, and click submit on that form! You deserve a shot at the financial assistance, influential mentorship, and experience that you will not forget. No one will get to cling onto this opportunity if you don’t apply! I’m always here to chat and listen to the great ideas stirring in your mind! Love, Kathryn C. Webster President 2018 Mid-West Regional Student Seminar What’s Next for You? Who: blind and low vision students (high school and up) When: 6PM, Friday, April 20 – 12PM, Sunday, April 22, 2018 Where: Holiday Inn O’Hare, 5615 N. Cumberland Avenue, Chicago, IL 60631 Cost: $50 for meals and registration, $109 plus tax per night To reserve a room, call 773-693-5800. Mention NFB of Illinois to get our special group rate! Want roommates to cut down costs? Email Kathryn Webster WHY WAIT? Event and hotel registration is open from February 1 – March 31, 2018 REGISTER Direct questions and special requests to Kathryn Webster For financial assistance, contact your affiliate president by March 20. This year’s regional student seminar will be a weekend of fun, engagement, and information! It’s all about the next step in your life, whatever that may look like: taking a step back, learning about options, and paving the path for your future. We will have experts from blindness training centers, working professionals, career guidance, college preparation, health & wellness, and so much more. This seminar gives students an invaluable tool: the power of networking. Both Friday and Saturday night, we will engage in activities and social events. With students traveling from neighboring states, the interactions you’ll experience will be unlike anything else! Summer Opportunities | NFB Training Centers BLINDNESS: Learning in New Dimensions (BLIND,) Inc. Minneapolis, MN BLIND, Incorporated is seeking dynamic, enthusiastic individuals to work as counselors in our PREP, STYLE, and Buddy Programs! Our PREP and STYLE programs serve high school students 14 to 21 years of age. Students in the Buddy Program range from 9 to 13 years of age. Applicants must be able to serve as role models as well as understand and share our positive philosophy regarding blindness. These individuals must be skilled in the non-visual alternative techniques of blindness that we teach at our training center. While being a graduate of an National Federation of the Blind (NFB) training center is not a requirement, one should have the same level of skill, self-confidence, and independence that we expect from our graduates. The most qualified applicants possess the following skill set: • Aspirations to work with children/teenagers • Ability to communicate effectively with co-workers and supervisors • Willingness to work as part of a team • Willingness and ability to teach students of all levels and backgrounds • Proficiency in using word processing, spreadsheets, the internet, and email using either the JAWS, Voiceover or NVDA screen readers • Ability to write clear and concise reports on student progress • Ability to read and write Braille Note: All applicants must pass a background check. PREP Counselor: June 3 – August 15 STYLE Counselor: July 10 – August 15 Buddy Counselor: July 10 – August 15 For more information, contact Michell Gip, Youth Services Coordinator at 612-872-0100 ext. 231 or email a cover letter and resume to mgip at blindinc.org. Colorado Center for the Blind Littleton, CO The Colorado Center for the Blind is now accepting applications from positive blind role models to be residential counselors and classroom instructors in our 2018 summer programs. We offer 3 programs for students: Summer for Success College Prep Program, Earn and Learn High School Program and the Initiation to Independence Middle School Program. Staff must be available May 29 through August 10, 2018. Applicants must be good role models, competent in the skills of blindness, well-rounded, flexible, must possess excellent communication skills, and be willing to lead by example. Must be excited to work with blind students ages 11 – 20. Challenge recreation is an exciting component of the job. Staff will go rock climbing, hiking, canoeing, white water rafting, attend martial arts classes and much more. All staff and students will attend the week long national convention of the National Federation of the Blind. To learn more about our summer programs, please click the following links https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=6yBomtj12KU&x-yt-ts=1421914688&feature=player_embedded#t=0 http://cocenter.org/dreaming-warmer-2018-summer-programs// If interested, please contact Martin Becerra-Miranda at 303-778-1130 x 223 or via email at mbecerra at cocenter.orgg Louisiana center for the Blind Ruston, LA If interested in working for one of the LCB summer programs, contact Eric Guillory at eguillory at louisianacenter.org. 2018 NFB National Scholarship Program APPLY NOW http://www.nfb.org/scholarships Are you legally blind? Do you reside in the United States, the District of Columbia, or Puerto Rico? Are you pursuing or planning to pursue a full-time, postsecondary course of study at a U.S. institution in the 2016 scholastic year? Are you available to attend the entire NFB National Convention in Orlando, Florida from July 3-July 8, 2018? Are you eager to meet Federation leaders and network with some of the brightest, most passionate mentors out there? If you said yes to all of these questions, then we strongly encourage you to apply to our 2018 National Scholarship Program! To recognize achievement by blind scholars, the National Federation of the Blind annually offers blind college students in the United States and Puerto Rico the opportunity to win one of thirty merit-based, national-level scholarships ranging in value of $3,000 to $12,000. All scholarships awarded are based on academic excellence, community service, and leadership. Visit our website at www.nfb.org/scholarships to begin your application! Remember: applications, along with all necessary documents, must be submitted no later than March 31, 2018. Do not wait until the end of February to start gathering additional information and beginning the online form. NABS Legislative Toolkit The NABS Legislative Toolkit is a complete and comprehensive guide for all blind students to more actively participate in the fight for equal access. Included are step by step instructions on how to write your personal testimony, how to approach your university for support, and even how to hold a legislative workshop with your student division. The Legislative committee exists to further explain and assist students in their implementation of the kit. The National Association of Blind Students Legislative Committee knows that through changing laws, we can change lives. Join us, use this invaluable tool. Together, through collective action, we can achieve equality for the blind in the classroom, and beyond. This toolkit will be up on our web site soon, as well as distributed to student presidents. December and February Blog Post February The National Association of Blind Students believes in students taking full advantage of all the college experiences available to them, regardless of their blindness. Therefore, we are teaming up with an organization called MIUSA, that allows blind people to knock down barriers while traveling abroad. Below, please find a blog from MIUSA, describing the experience our previous NABS president had traveling to south America. Don't let blindness be a factor preventing you from traveling to Egypt's pyramids or Ice Land's volcanos. NABS and MIUSA together can turn your wildest safari dreams into reality. Catching a wave in the Caribbean. Cruising down the slopes of a volcano. Zipping through rainforests along a cable. Reading a textbook. When you think of extreme adventure, one of these is not like the other. Yet what Sean Whalen discovered while traveling is that, for blind people in Nicaragua, accessing one of these activities is perceived to be a near-impossible challenge – and it’s not the one you’d expect. Sean didn’t know what to expect on his first journey abroad, so he focused on the usual. “I wondered how easy it would be to get around, what people’s reactions would be to me, and how different it would be from what I’m used to in the United States.” What he discovered in Nicaragua was the travel concerns ended up being much less of an issue, for which he now admits he may have over prepared. Instead, he found himself grappling more with the cultural contradictions he discovered there. Sean, who is blind, traveled for several weeks with a small group from the United States to do interviews with organizations working on behalf of blind people in the country, with government officials, and with blind school children and their families. He learned of this opportunity through an alumna of Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, where he was a graduate student. Sean was looking for a summer internship, and as luck would have it, a Boston-based non-profit was looking for someone with policy experience to assess its viability to run programs in Nicaragua. Before traveling, Sean learned Nicaragua’s constitution provides equal access to everyone in education, including students with disabilities. The reality of what he found on the ground was quite different. Lack of resources contributed to disabled students being pulled out of school at an early age or left without access to assistive technology. He also sensed a lack of societal expectation, especially in rural areas, that a person with a disability can have independence or a professional life. “I think it has given me a perspective on how important good policy can be and how also having things on paper that look great won’t necessarily translate into good outcomes in reality." People he met in Nicaragua were surprised to see Sean navigating the community with his cane and to learn that he was a university student with a career living on his own. Ironically, when he went ziplining, surfing, hiking or volcano boarding, none of the locals or tour guides seemed too concerned that he was blind. “If I went anywhere in the United States to do that, there would be a safety concern and a big fight just to get to do it like anyone else. But in Nicaragua, it was, ‘Here’s five dollars’ and ‘Here’s your board.’ It was strange – it felt really good and in that moment, I thought, ‘You think I can do this, but you don’t think your son, if he had a disability, could go to school?’" As president of the National Association of Blind Students, a division of the National Federation of the Blind in the United States, Sean is heavily engaged in working on a volunteer basis on policy issues on the education of blind people. This includes a lot of work on access to technology in the classroom, though on a far different level than what is needed in Nicaragua. Until this point, he has seen his policy work as domestically focused. His overseas experience has caused him to question whether that is enough. “There’s just a far greater need out there, and I wonder what responsibility I have, do we have, to be aware of that need and to help when we can. I think I’d have a broader perspective if I’d had the nerve to go abroad earlier in my life." After graduation, Sean, who is eager to make up for lost time, headed back to Nicaragua with the same non-profit for six months and will be seizing more opportunities to travel and engage in advocacy efforts abroad in the future. He is currently Director of Strategic Partnerships for ETI, the nonprofit organization committed to the development of an inclusive society by transforming the social stigma against disabilities across the globe and empowering blind youth to be the authors of their futures and change makers of their societies. December Ellana Crew is a sparkling leader with many great qualities. As one who grew up in Maryland, her loyalty continues as she is now furthering her education in Baltimore. Ellana is proud to serve as president of the Maryland student division and as the co-chair for the Outreach Committee for our national student division. It’s hard to not mention Ellana’s contagious attitude and genuine personality. She loves building the National Federation of the Blind and learning about others’ differences and identities. Join us in reading this month’s blog post! I think I can speak for many of us when I say that although we love our families dearly and are excited for the holidays, the family gatherings of the season can get just a little bit crazy sometimes. With all of the traveling, gift shopping, cooking, and everything in between, the winter months can certainly leave us all feeling a little exhausted and sometimes stressed. One winter as I traveled home for the Christmas break, I was preparing for all of these things, but I was not prepared for one thing in particular that I did not expect to happen that year. It was 2015 and I was right in the middle of the CORE program at Blind Industries and Services of Maryland, a structured discovery blindness training center in—you guessed it—Maryland. It was the first year I would be going to the Christmas gathering with a cane in my hand, naturally, I was a little bit nervous. What were my relatives going to say? Would they treat me any differently? The time finally came on Christmas day for the whole family to come together at my grandparents’ house for food, presents, and lots of hugging and storytelling. When I got there, unfortunately, some of my fears were confirmed. Even though they had never done so before, even though I had always been blind, my grandfather was suddenly far more attentive to moving things out of my way, my grandmother was extra insistent on making my plate for me, and people seemed to make an extra effort to move around me than they had in previous years. It was a little disheartening, and really, I couldn’t understand how my act of using a tool to enhance my own independence had somehow caused my family to believe I now had less of it. I began to realize just how little I must have done for myself in the past. I had started thinking about the fact that, before training, I had never made my own plate at the family Christmas dinner. My mom would often keep her hand on my shoulder to help guide me through the house, my grandparents would get my drinks for me, and I would usually find one place to sit and avoid walking around very much. But this year was going to be different. I had spent the last several months learning that I could walk around as freely as I wanted with my cane, I had gone through several buffet lines at large meals for 40 and served myself at every one, and I had learned how to work around obstacles that I found in my path with no problem. I was more than capable of doing so many other things I had never done before, and I wanted to show my family what I had learned. So, when my grandfather insisted on moving things out of my way so that I could get through the house, I said “oh no, I’m okay. I don’t trip over things anymore. Let me show you how I use my cane.” And when my grandmother insisted on making my plate for me, I said “oh, you don’t have to do that. If you tell me the order of things on the counter, I am able to independently serve myself.” And instead of sticking to one spot on the couch and staying there, I decided I would walk around and join conversations myself this year, using my cane to navigate where I wanted, when I wanted. I started teaching my family what I was able to do and how I was able to do it, showing them the things I had learned and the skills I had gained, and everybody benefited. They appreciated the explanation, and I appreciated not being fussed over too much. Simply educating your friends and family can make a world of difference, and while my family is still learning to adapt to the new me, we are able to talk openly and honestly about what helps and what doesn’t. I am sure to let them know that if I do want some help, I will definitely ask them, and when they see me use my newly acquired skills to do what I need to do, it helps them understand a little bit more about what blind people are really capable of. Committee Updates If you have ever wanted to get involved with the work the National Association of Blind Students is doing, this is your chance. We have recently reorganized our committees and are looking for students with a passion to work beside us in building the Federation. If you are interested in joining one or more of our committees, please select the committee(s) you are most interested in and send an email to the Chair of the committee. Or, join the conference line at the designated times when it is most convenient to you. We look forward to working with you to build the National Federation of the Blind. Outreach Committee Chair: Syed Rizvi The outreach committee is hosting its annual national scholarship call Sunday, February 25th at 8PM Eastern. NABS will be fully transitioning from the Facebook profile to the Facebook page by national convention or when we hit 1,000 followers. The outreach committee is teaming up with MIUSA, an organization that enables disabled students to travel abroad. We are launching a membership program, building recruit databases in all our affiliates. Legislative advocacy Committee Chair: Kenia Flores The Legislative Advocacy Committee had a productive call after Washington Seminar under the new leadership to discuss what the committee plans on focusing on during the next few months. A larger emphasis will be placed on involving student divisions in legislative efforts. We look forward to advancing the legislative priorities of the National Federation of the Blind alongside you in 2018. Fundraising Committee The Fundraising Committee is fast at work preparing for National Convention and ensuring that profit for NABS does not come from only our members. We are excited to be selling our annual cook books, as well as launching a new discount card initiative. Stay tuned! The National association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind President, Kathryn Webster Nabs.president at gmail.com � ۱o -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Tara -----Original Message----- From: Cory McMahon [mailto:cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:27 PM To: Annis, Tara Subject: RE: [NABS-L] electronic signatures Dear Tara, How did you create an electronic signature? Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Annis, Tara via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:18 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Annis, Tara Subject: [NABS-L] electronic signatures Hello, I was just wondering if you all have any suggestions for cutting/pasting electronic signatures, especially in a pdf document. I have a graphic of my signature in word that a sighted dperson help me ensure looked visually okay, but I'm having difficulty pasting into a pdf that needs to be signed. I'm t thinking only certain pdf's allow this; is this correct? Is there a way to change the view of the pdf to cut/paste? Or, maybe there is a way to convert a pdf to word document for free. Do you all have any I ideas? Thanks, Tara Tara Annis E-mail: annis1 at live.marshall.edu Alternate E-mail: tannisdanielle at gmail.com Phone: (304) 617-7892 Alternate Phone: (304) 710-9413 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.c om From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 23:43:20 2018 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:43:20 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] tools that help you Message-ID: <69447795-95BC-468C-84BE-3FFC49A58C17@yahoo.com> Hi All, I am trying to get some ideas of some tools and gadgets we as people use quite frequently that would be of use for a blind student from elementary school to middle school. My fam and I are working on starting the first BELL Academy in Alabama and would like suggestions for parents of blind kids who don't know what resources and what tools and/or gadgets and/or other things that their child may need to succeed in our world. I'm hoping to come up with a list and possibly get some to display for them to see and to hold and to touch. Thank you very much! Sincerely, Ahbee Sent from my iPad From zdreicer at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 04:17:54 2018 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary Dreicer) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 21:17:54 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] tools that help you In-Reply-To: <69447795-95BC-468C-84BE-3FFC49A58C17@yahoo.com> References: <69447795-95BC-468C-84BE-3FFC49A58C17@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5a98d072.11226b0a.68c56.7d53@mx.google.com> Hi! Hope that you’ve been doing well. I would suggest in terms of technology, IOS devices especially. A lot of time will probably be spent teaching them these devices’ basics. In terms of other ideas, I know some people have taken students on public transportation or walking around town doing things. Have a good weekend. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 16:44 To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Ahbee Orton Subject: [NABS-L] tools that help you Hi All, I am trying to get some ideas of some tools and gadgets we as people use quite frequently that would be of use for a blind student from elementary school to middle school. My fam and I are working on starting the first BELL Academy in Alabama and would like suggestions for parents of blind kids who don't know what resources and what tools and/or gadgets and/or other things that their child may need to succeed in our world. I'm hoping to come up with a list and possibly get some to display for them to see and to hold and to touch. Thank you very much! Sincerely, Ahbee Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From emitchell927 at icloud.com Sat Mar 3 13:36:12 2018 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 08:36:12 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] tools that help you In-Reply-To: <5a98d072.11226b0a.68c56.7d53@mx.google.com> References: <69447795-95BC-468C-84BE-3FFC49A58C17@yahoo.com> <5a98d072.11226b0a.68c56.7d53@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6B0DBC25-8DE6-41D8-B273-BE2522A9504D@icloud.com> I suggest the voiceover on the Mac I use the Mac on a daily basis with voiceover Emma Mitchell Sent from my iPad > On Mar 1, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Zachary Dreicer via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi! Hope that you’ve been doing well. I would suggest in terms of technology, IOS devices especially. A lot of time will probably be spent teaching them these devices’ basics. In terms of other ideas, I know some people have taken students on public transportation or walking around town doing things. Have a good weekend. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 16:44 > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Ahbee Orton > Subject: [NABS-L] tools that help you > > Hi All, > > I am trying to get some ideas of some tools and gadgets we as people use quite frequently that would be of use for a blind student from elementary school to middle school. My fam and I are working on starting the first BELL Academy in Alabama and would like suggestions for parents of blind kids who don't know what resources and what tools and/or gadgets and/or other things that their child may need to succeed in our world. I'm hoping to come up with a list and possibly get some to display for them to see and to hold and to touch. Thank you very much! > > Sincerely, > Ahbee > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40icloud.com From a.vias at outlook.com Sat Mar 3 21:01:56 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:01:56 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction Message-ID: Hey. It has been a long time since I posted. My name is Armando. I am 17-years-old. I am in 10th grade. I run a blog called Blindness Awareness and More. Here is my latest post. https://blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/27/a-blind-rapper-is-spreading-a-message-about-the-struggles-of-being-blind/ Sent from my iPhone From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 03:31:04 2018 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 20:31:04 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: [Perform-Talk] Fwd: FW: NCIS Casting / Role of Annie (Blind Character) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Julie McGinnity via Perform-talk Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:24:27 -0600 Subject: [Perform-Talk] Fwd: FW: NCIS Casting / Role of Annie (Blind Character) To: Performing Arts Division list Cc: Julie McGinnity This sounds really cool! Passing it along for anyone who may be interested in this role... Good luck! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Wunder, Gary" Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 21:13:12 +0000 Subject: FW: NCIS Casting / Role of Annie (Blind Character) To: "Julie McGinnity (kaybaycar at gmail.com)" From: Maurer, Patricia Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:32 PM To: Communications Team Cc: President, National Federation of the Blind; Lewis, Anil Subject: FW: NCIS Casting / Role of Annie (Blind Character) From: Jason Kennedy [mailto:kennedycasting at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:26 PM To: Maurer, Patricia; President, National Federation of the Blind; Pam Allen; Ron Brown; James Gashel; Jeannie Massay; Denise Avant; Everette Bacon; Amy Buresh; Shawn Callaway; Norma Crosby; Ever Lee Hairston; John Fritz; Cathy Jackson; Carla McQuillan; Joseph Ruffalo Jr; Amy Ruell; Adelmo Vigil Subject: NCIS Casting / Role of Annie (Blind Character) Hi, Please forgive the mass email. I wasn't sure who I should reach out to at the National Federation of the Blind. I am a casting director for the CBS series, NCIS. We are casting a character who is blind and we would like to find an actress to play this role who is blind or has low vision. I'm reaching out to multiple resources to find candidates to audition for us, but we are finding very few actresses. Please let me know if you have anyone in mind who might be right. Attached are PDFs of the sides (audition scenes) and breakdown with the character description. This episode will film in Los Angeles 3/6 to 3/15 and we need to cast the role by March 1st. Also, our producers and writer would like to connect with someone to ensure the portrayal of this character is as authentic and as accurate as possible. Please let me know who I can have them contact. Thank you, Jason Kennedy, Casting Director Susan Bluestein Casting (323) 956-2272 Office NCIS | NCIS: Los Angeles ______________________ Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. 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McGinnity President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division, Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri "For we walk by faith, not by sight" 2 Cor. 7 hello all, here is some information that was forwarded to me from the performing arts division on someone in the blindness community who would if interested audition for the part on ncis this year as a blind person. all of the information is above... good luck to all! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NCIS 1520-350 Annie Audition Scenes - 2-13-18.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 269443 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NCIS #350 Sight Unseen (Role of Annie).pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 94820 bytes Desc: not available URL: From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 03:56:04 2018 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 20:56:04 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Credit Cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/21/18, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > How do you handle credit cards? I hear that they mail you paper bills. How > do you see the transactions? How do you pay each month? I have a credit > card, but want to make sure that it's totally accessible before using it. > Ian > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > hello all, besides banks for accessing your credit cards credit unions in the usa have accessible web site for accessing your credit cards online too. I have a credit card from my local cu in Denver, and the web site for accessing it is very accessible and, you can also do it over their phone too! banks are good way to obtain accredit card but, credit unions are lesser cheaper with minimal fees. also, chase's web site is also accessible for accessing their credit cards through since I also opened up another credit card through them as well too! I hope this information has been help to you! hugs, amy From leena.salim at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 03:59:21 2018 From: leena.salim at gmail.com (Leena Bandy) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:59:21 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Credit Cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mine works online. I can look at the statement and make payments online. On 3/3/18, Amy Sabo via NABS-L wrote: > On 2/21/18, Ian Perrault via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> How do you handle credit cards? I hear that they mail you paper bills. >> How >> do you see the transactions? How do you pay each month? I have a credit >> card, but want to make sure that it's totally accessible before using it. >> Ian >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com >> > hello all, > > besides banks for accessing your credit cards credit unions in the usa > have accessible web site for accessing your credit cards online too. I > have a credit card from my local cu in Denver, and the web site for > accessing it is very accessible and, you can also do it over their > phone too! banks are good way to obtain accredit card but, credit > unions are lesser cheaper with minimal fees. also, chase's web site is > also accessible for accessing their credit cards through since I also > opened up another credit card through them as well too! I hope this > information has been help to you! > > > > hugs, > amy > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/leena.salim%40gmail.com > From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Mon Mar 5 01:10:23 2018 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 01:10:23 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Aloha, my fellow students and legislative advocates! You are invited to the next: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call Sunday, March 11 8:00 pm Eastern Dial 712-770-5197 Enter access code 265669 Chair Kenia Flores has big plans for us, and you don't want to miss out! We need YOUR HELP in order to raise the expectations of blind people because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. We hope to have participation from as many states as possible because our momentum in every state feeds us all. We are looking forward to speaking with you all on Sunday! As always, feel free to reach out to Chair Kenia Flores, Co-Chair Robert Parsons, or me with any questions. Together, with love, hope, and determination, we transform dreams into reality! Mahalo nui loa, Justin Salisbury Co-Chair Legislative Advocacy Committee National Association of Blind Students Justin M. Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB President Hawaii Association of Blind Students and Recent Graduates A Division of the National Federation of the Blind of Hawaii Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury   “Once social change begins, it cannot be reversed. You cannot un-educate the person who has learned to read. You cannot humiliate the person who feels pride. You cannot oppress the people who are not afraid anymore.” Cesar Chavez From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 04:10:35 2018 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NABS-L] Fundraising Call This Thursday March 8th! References: <883500944.8225498.1520223035283.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <883500944.8225498.1520223035283@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Students!  You are all welcome to the National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee call this Thursday March 8th at 9PM Eastern. Come join us as we talk about fundraising events leading up to national convention. We like to put the FUN! in fundraising. So come join us Thursday March 8th at 9PM Eastern.  Call in at 712 770 5197  Code 265669   Dustin Cather NABS Fundraising Chair From tinypaws8491 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 12:44:40 2018 From: tinypaws8491 at yahoo.com (Thomas Peralta) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 12:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1967691754.10834397.1520253880796@mail.yahoo.com> Does it matter if I am not a student and was replaced in the position of Legislative Representative for Wisconsin? Respectfully, Tom Peralta On ‎Sunday‎, ‎March‎ ‎4‎, ‎2018‎ ‎07‎:‎16‎:‎14‎ ‎PM‎ ‎CST, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: Aloha, my fellow students and legislative advocates! You are invited to the next: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call Sunday, March 11 8:00 pm Eastern Dial 712-770-5197 Enter access code 265669 Chair Kenia Flores has big plans for us, and you don't want to miss out! We need YOUR HELP in order to raise the expectations of blind people because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. We hope to have participation from as many states as possible because our momentum in every state feeds us all. We are looking forward to speaking with you all on Sunday! As always, feel free to reach out to Chair Kenia Flores, Co-Chair Robert Parsons, or me with any questions. Together, with love, hope, and determination, we transform dreams into reality! Mahalo nui loa, Justin Salisbury Co-Chair Legislative Advocacy Committee National Association of Blind Students Justin M. Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB President Hawaii Association of Blind Students and Recent Graduates A Division of the National Federation of the Blind of Hawaii Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury   “Once social change begins, it cannot be reversed. You cannot un-educate the person who has learned to read. You cannot humiliate the person who feels pride. You cannot oppress the people who are not afraid anymore.” Cesar Chavez _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tinypaws8491%40yahoo.com From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 13:22:31 2018 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 08:22:31 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call In-Reply-To: <1967691754.10834397.1520253880796@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1967691754.10834397.1520253880796@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Greetings Tom You are most certainly welcome. Our goal is to disseminate information and we welcome all to the call. Best Robert Parsons Jr. > On Mar 5, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Thomas Peralta via NABS-L wrote: > > Does it matter if I am not a student and was replaced in the position of Legislative Representative for Wisconsin? > Respectfully, > Tom Peralta > > On ‎Sunday‎, ‎March‎ ‎4‎, ‎2018‎ ‎07‎:‎16‎:‎14‎ ‎PM‎ ‎CST, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: > > Aloha, my fellow students and legislative advocates! > > You are invited to the next: > > Legislative Advocacy Committee Call > Sunday, March 11 > 8:00 pm Eastern > > Dial 712-770-5197 > Enter access code 265669 > > Chair Kenia Flores has big plans for us, and you don't want to miss out! We need YOUR HELP in order to raise the expectations of blind people because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. We hope to have participation from as many states as possible because our momentum in every state feeds us all. > > We are looking forward to speaking with you all on Sunday! > > As always, feel free to reach out to Chair Kenia Flores, Co-Chair Robert Parsons, or me with any questions. > > Together, with love, hope, and determination, we transform dreams into reality! > > Mahalo nui loa, > > Justin Salisbury > Co-Chair > Legislative Advocacy Committee > National Association of Blind Students > > Justin M. Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB > President > Hawaii Association of Blind Students and Recent Graduates > A Division of the National Federation of the Blind of Hawaii > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury > > “Once social change begins, it cannot be reversed. You cannot un-educate the person who has learned to read. You cannot humiliate the person who feels pride. You cannot oppress the people who are not afraid anymore.” > > Cesar Chavez > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tinypaws8491%40yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rob.parso3389%40gmail.com From discoduck221 at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 14:06:17 2018 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:06:17 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: [Colorado-talk] Colorado association of blind students survey. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cecilia Martínez via Colorado-Talk Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:25:54 -0500 Subject: [Colorado-talk] Colorado association of blind students survey. To: colorado-talk at nfbnet.org Cc: Cecilia Martínez Hello everyone: We, the Colorado Association of blind students, are looking for ways to make our monthly conference calls more appealing for students. We would like to do so by hosting them at a convenient time, addressing relevant topics that intrest the students, and hosting monthly guest speakers. This is why we have created a short survey, which will allow us to better understand your needs and intrests as a student. The survey link is: http://bit.ly/2oIKRW6 Please take a few minuts to complete the survey, and don't hesitate to forward this to anyone who might be intrested. Thank you Ceci _______________________________________________ Colorado-Talk mailing list Colorado-Talk at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Colorado-Talk: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gmail.com List archives can be found at From johnniejduran at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 00:28:07 2018 From: johnniejduran at gmail.com (johnnie Jean duran) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 17:28:07 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume Message-ID: Hi, I need to create a resume, and I have a basic understanding of what should be included. I am just not sure how to format it. Are there any online resources that will format my resume for me? Or are there some examples I could go off of? How do you guys typically write your resumes? Thanks in advance, JJ From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 00:31:39 2018 From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 18:31:39 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume References: Message-ID: <00ec01d3b5ab$a8fb8f90$fe01a8c0@CFTB10381> write me off list and I'll let you see my resume, and you are welcomed to kind of piggy back off of that. thanks, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L" To: Cc: "johnnie Jean duran" Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:28 PM Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume > Hi, > I need to create a resume, and I have a basic understanding of what > should be included. I am just not sure how to format it. Are there any > online resources that will format my resume for me? Or are there some > examples I could go off of? How do you guys typically write your > resumes? > Thanks in advance, > JJ > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com From angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 00:36:02 2018 From: angelaroberts10886 at gmail.com (Angela Roberts) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 00:36:02 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume In-Reply-To: <00ec01d3b5ab$a8fb8f90$fe01a8c0@CFTB10381> References: , <00ec01d3b5ab$a8fb8f90$fe01a8c0@CFTB10381> Message-ID: If you have Microsoft Word, you can use a resume template built in the product. I will also be willing to help you format the resume if you email me off-list. ________________________________ From: NABS-L on behalf of Doug Oliver via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:31:39 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Doug Oliver Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume write me off list and I'll let you see my resume, and you are welcomed to kind of piggy back off of that. thanks, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L" To: Cc: "johnnie Jean duran" Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:28 PM Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume > Hi, > I need to create a resume, and I have a basic understanding of what > should be included. I am just not sure how to format it. Are there any > online resources that will format my resume for me? Or are there some > examples I could go off of? How do you guys typically write your > resumes? > Thanks in advance, > JJ > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/oliver.doug1%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/angelaroberts10886%40gmail.com From amc05111 at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 01:00:29 2018 From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley Coleman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 20:00:29 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000101d3b5af$afdd0c40$0f9724c0$@gmail.com> It's pretty simple. Many people choose to fancy theirs up a bit, but it's all in what you want it to say about you. Some of the sections you will want to include would be, contact information, skills that you have, education that you have had, jobs, certifications, references and more depending on your occupation. I'm sure I missed a few things. I can also share my resume as an example. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:28 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: johnnie Jean duran Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume Hi, I need to create a resume, and I have a basic understanding of what should be included. I am just not sure how to format it. Are there any online resources that will format my resume for me? Or are there some examples I could go off of? How do you guys typically write your resumes? Thanks in advance, JJ _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.com From eemcrew at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 08:07:14 2018 From: eemcrew at gmail.com (Ellana Crew) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 03:07:14 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder: Join the Outreach Committee Neaxt Tuesday Message-ID: Greetings NABSters! The outreach committee of the National Association of Blind Students will be meeting once again next Tuesday, March 13 at 9 PM eastern! Join us in our efforts to grow our membership and keep the members informed by getting on the phone with us and sharing your wonderful ideas. Call: 712-770-5197 Access code: 265669 See you there! Ellana Crew, President Maryland Association of Blind Students 443-758-7211 nfbmd.org/students facebook.com/mdabs.federation @MDABS_NFB The Maryland Association of Blind Students knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind students because low expectations create obstacles between blind students and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From jay.rasmussen at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 20:33:20 2018 From: jay.rasmussen at gmail.com (Jay Rasmussen) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:33:20 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/6/18, johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > I need to create a resume, and I have a basic understanding of what > should be included. I am just not sure how to format it. Are there any > online resources that will format my resume for me? Or are there some > examples I could go off of? How do you guys typically write your > resumes? > Thanks in advance, > JJ > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jay.rasmussen%40gmail.com > Go to your local job center.they helped me a lot. To make my resume look good Jay Rasmussen From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 14:40:29 2018 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NABS-L] Fundraising Call Tonight! References: <776816497.9987254.1520520029191.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <776816497.9987254.1520520029191@mail.yahoo.com> Good Morning All,  Just a friendly reminder that there is a fundraising call tonight at 9 PM Eastern! Please join us for the fun as we discuss exciting things that we have planed in the near future. So come join the fun at 9 PM Eastern!   Call in: 712 770 5197  Access code: 265669  Hope to see you all there!  Dustin Cather Fundraising Chair From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 17:37:22 2018 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 09:37:22 -0800 Subject: [NABS-L] Question about Pages and Files App Message-ID: <1BFFA083-12AB-4494-A958-759B7350B319@gmail.com> Hi, Hope everyone's semester is going well. I have just been getting the hang of using Pages more, after having normally used Keyword on the Braillenote or Microsoft Word on the computer. I have an Iphone 6 and was told that in order to name a blank document, I would an app called Files. While I find the app to be easily accessible, I can never find it on my home screen and have had to search for it using the App store. It appears that this app keeps disappearing from my phone because often instead of "open", to get into Files I get "re-download." I have already had to re-download it 3 times this morning. It doesn't take that long but I don't know why it doesn't appear to be staying on my phone, as other apps are. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks, Vejas From sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 18:20:54 2018 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:20:54 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume In-Reply-To: <000101d3b5af$afdd0c40$0f9724c0$@gmail.com> References: <000101d3b5af$afdd0c40$0f9724c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5aa17f07.1c69fb81.97f59.09c9@mx.google.com> I'm afraid this is a task (formatting) for sighted help - despite my best efforts I have not been able to do this independently. I've attached my resume as an example, but it's one of those things that's so subjective. If you have a career center on campus, you could check in with them. Alternatively, Lime Connect (a company helping people with disabilities and employers find each other) has career counselling and resume formatting services available. Sign up at https://www.limeconnect.com/programs/page/about-the-lime-network I hope this is helpful, Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Coleman via NABS-L Sent: March 6, 2018 8:00 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Cc: Ashley Coleman Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume It's pretty simple. Many people choose to fancy theirs up a bit, but it's all in what you want it to say about you. Some of the sections you will want to include would be, contact information, skills that you have, education that you have had, jobs, certifications, references and more depending on your occupation. I'm sure I missed a few things. I can also share my resume as an example. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of johnnie Jean duran via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:28 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: johnnie Jean duran Subject: [NABS-L] Writing a Resume Hi, I need to create a resume, and I have a basic understanding of what should be included. I am just not sure how to format it. Are there any online resources that will format my resume for me? Or are there some examples I could go off of? How do you guys typically write your resumes? Thanks in advance, JJ _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.c om --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sincerely, Milan Novakovic Department of Political Science University of North Carolina at Greensboro Email: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author Unknown > On Mar 8, 2018, at 18:37, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > Hope everyone's semester is going well. > I have just been getting the hang of using Pages more, after having normally used Keyword on the Braillenote or Microsoft Word on the computer. I have an Iphone 6 and was told that in order to name a blank document, I would an app called Files. > While I find the app to be easily accessible, I can never find it on my home screen and have had to search for it using the App store. It appears that this app keeps disappearing from my phone because often instead of "open", to get into Files I get "re-download." I have already had to re-download it 3 times this morning. It doesn't take that long but I don't know why it doesn't appear to be staying on my phone, as other apps are. Has anyone else had this problem? > Thanks, > Vejas > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/milannovakovic99%40gmail.com From ALewis at nfb.org Thu Mar 8 20:23:19 2018 From: ALewis at nfb.org (Lewis, Anil) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 20:23:19 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Application Deadline Tomorrow: 2018 National Federation of the Blind Summer Internship Program Message-ID: National Federation of the Blind Summer Internship Program Our National Federation of the Blind 2018 Summer Internship Program will provide an opportunity for individuals to contribute to the programs of the Federation, while gaining valuable experience at the center of innovation in the blindness field. Our 2018 summer interns will be hosted at the NFB headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland. NFB internships will begin on May 28 and end on August 3, 2018 (ten weeks). The internship experience includes a stipend and may include sleeping accommodations at the NFB Jernigan Institute, if necessary. One of the requirements of the internship is participation in program activities at the annual convention of the National Federation of the Blind to be held in Orlando, Florida, from July 3-8, 2018. To apply for the 2018 Summer Internship Program, submit the following information via email to jerniganinstitute at nfb.org no later than March 9, 2018: 1. A cover letter expressing why you are uniquely qualified for an NFB internship, listing the program area(s) in which you are most interested in gaining experience, and describing the projects that drive your passion in those program area(s). Be sure to include a description of any previous involvement you have had with the Federation. 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From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 20:48:09 2018 From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (Aleeha Dudley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:48:09 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Question about Pages and Files App In-Reply-To: <1BFFA083-12AB-4494-A958-759B7350B319@gmail.com> References: <1BFFA083-12AB-4494-A958-759B7350B319@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45A8998F-FE9A-4AD1-BDF6-8B7285427B52@gmail.com> Hey Vejas, That is interesting. First, you should be able to rename a document by double tapping on the “blank” heading at the top of the window when the document if it is open. Otherwise, you can rename them from the file list in Pages. Files should be on your phone by default if it is running iOS 11. If you are up-to-date, go to your settings, then iPhone storage, and see if the “offload unused apps” switch is on. This would cause your phone to offload apps it thinks you haven’t used in a while, but it’s buggy. I hope this helps. Aleeha > On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > Hope everyone's semester is going well. > I have just been getting the hang of using Pages more, after having normally used Keyword on the Braillenote or Microsoft Word on the computer. I have an Iphone 6 and was told that in order to name a blank document, I would an app called Files. > While I find the app to be easily accessible, I can never find it on my home screen and have had to search for it using the App store. It appears that this app keeps disappearing from my phone because often instead of "open", to get into Files I get "re-download." I have already had to re-download it 3 times this morning. It doesn't take that long but I don't know why it doesn't appear to be staying on my phone, as other apps are. Has anyone else had this problem? > Thanks, > Vejas > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindcowgirl1993%40gmail.com From a.vias at outlook.com Thu Mar 8 21:44:31 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 21:44:31 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Fundraising Call Tonight! In-Reply-To: <776816497.9987254.1520520029191@mail.yahoo.com> References: <776816497.9987254.1520520029191.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <776816497.9987254.1520520029191@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Can students join the call? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Dustin Cather via NABS-L wrote: > > Good Morning All, > Just a friendly reminder that there is a fundraising call tonight at 9 PM Eastern! Please join us for the fun as we discuss exciting things that we have planed in the near future. So come join the fun at 9 PM Eastern! > Call in: 712 770 5197 > > Access code: 265669 > > Hope to see you all there! > > Dustin Cather Fundraising Chair > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C10b6748ba23a4b470f4a08d58502c44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636561169287421910&sdata=2oKChuLdhY45QmUsrn7CThSWRlnkyWRbfcp7gYJ1h0k%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C10b6748ba23a4b470f4a08d58502c44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636561169287421910&sdata=LkbEGYUxsUwaWNSNE8BmqmDlsqP%2B%2FWw5b2QgZx6v%2BiE%3D&reserved=0 From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 21:58:06 2018 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 16:58:06 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Fundraising Call Tonight! In-Reply-To: References: <776816497.9987254.1520520029191.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <776816497.9987254.1520520029191@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3E4859C1-6FE9-4254-9E28-11213B171EE3@gmail.com> Yes; any NABS committee calls which are advertised on this list are open to all members. If you have ideas about future fundraisers or want to lend your talents to our fundraising efforts, I'm sure the committee would welcome your input! Chris Nusbaum > On Mar 8, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > Can students join the call? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Dustin Cather via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Good Morning All, >> Just a friendly reminder that there is a fundraising call tonight at 9 PM Eastern! Please join us for the fun as we discuss exciting things that we have planed in the near future. So come join the fun at 9 PM Eastern! >> Call in: 712 770 5197 >> >> Access code: 265669 >> >> Hope to see you all there! >> >> Dustin Cather Fundraising Chair >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C10b6748ba23a4b470f4a08d58502c44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636561169287421910&sdata=2oKChuLdhY45QmUsrn7CThSWRlnkyWRbfcp7gYJ1h0k%3D&reserved=0 >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C10b6748ba23a4b470f4a08d58502c44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636561169287421910&sdata=LkbEGYUxsUwaWNSNE8BmqmDlsqP%2B%2FWw5b2QgZx6v%2BiE%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 04:57:04 2018 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 20:57:04 -0800 Subject: [NABS-L] Problem with Email when Sharing Pages Documents Message-ID: <73E83355-A47A-465F-85D7-F9E61102698C@gmail.com> Hi guys, Hope everyone is having a great evening. I have come across another Pages issue which I have unsuccesfully qied to troubleshoot. Like most of you, I have multiple email accounts. Recently, I decided to change my default account from one, which I'll call Account A, to another, which I'll call Account B. Although standard emails now go through using Account B as the new default, Pages documents do not. When I share a Pages docuwith with a contact, my phone automatically wants to send email through Account A instead. This should not be happening because Account A is no longer the default. Here is what I have done so far to try to fix the problem: Rebooting Going through mail and contacts settings Deleting Account A and putting it back later Just to clarify, I still want Account A on my phone, I just don't want Pages documents to be sent from there anymore as it is no longer the default. I hope this problem is clear, and that one of you could help. Thanks, Vejas Vejas Vasiliauskas Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students Phone: 3102653949 Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 23:58:48 2018 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:58:48 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: [Colorado-talk] Colorado association of blind students survey. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello david, thanks for forwarding this onto the nabs list. I was going to do this but, I forgot! i'm soo bad.. I have been busy with things in my life and I do apology on this! thanks again and, I will talk to you soon! hugs, amy On 3/6/18, David Dunphy via NABS-L wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Cecilia Martínez via Colorado-Talk > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 15:25:54 -0500 > Subject: [Colorado-talk] Colorado association of blind students survey. > To: colorado-talk at nfbnet.org > Cc: Cecilia Martínez > > Hello everyone: > > We, the Colorado Association of blind students, are looking for ways > to make our monthly conference calls more appealing for students. > We would like to do so by hosting them at a convenient time, > addressing relevant topics that intrest the students, and hosting > monthly guest speakers. > > This is why we have created a short survey, which will allow us to > better understand your needs and intrests as a student. > > The survey link is: > > http://bit.ly/2oIKRW6 > > Please take a few minuts to complete the survey, and don't hesitate to > forward this to anyone who might be intrested. > > Thank you > Ceci > > _______________________________________________ > Colorado-Talk mailing list > Colorado-Talk at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Colorado-Talk: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org/discoduck221%40gmail.com > List archives can be found at > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amieelsabo%40gmail.com > From amieelsabo at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 00:03:59 2018 From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:03:59 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: 2018 MouseHole Scholarships Now Open In-Reply-To: <19039044.29649701520313897861.JavaMail.tomcat6@tomcat2> References: <19039044.29649701520313897861.JavaMail.tomcat6@tomcat2> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: info at blindmicemegamall.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:24:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: 2018 MouseHole Scholarships Now Open To: amieelsabo at gmail.com 2018 Mouse Hole Scholarships sponsored by Blind Mice inc Welcome to a dream come true! The Mouse Hole Scholarship Program began as a dream in 2000. It became a reality in 2004 with the first scholarships being awarded to deserving students. The MouseHole Scholarships are open to any graduating High School Student that is visually impaired or sighted provided one or both of their parents are visually impaired. Every purchase made in the Blind Mice Mega Mall and contributions made by you during the year grow the MouseHole Scholarship Fund for that year! The Scholarships will change from year to year depending on the amount in the MouseHole Scholarship Fund at the end of the year! The goal of Blind Mice Inc is to offer more and larger scholarships every successive year! Remember, everytime you make a purchase in one of the many stores at Blind Mice Mega mall the Scholarship Fund grows a bit larger! Blind Mice Inc has offered over $31,850.00 in scholarships to deserving students pursueing their college degrees! These awards have been possible because of your support of Blind Mice Mega Mall and all our merchants! The scholarships are open to visually impaired students and also to sighted students with visually impaired parents. Let's all work together to make life better for everyone! See this year's awards Jump to this year's essay topic Read the eligibility rules for the Mouse Hole Scholarship Essay Contest Jump to 'How to get an application' Jump to 'Directions for Submitting Essays' Awards for the 2018 Mouse Hole Scholarship Essay Contest Blind Mice Shoppers raised over $2,700.00 in 2017 for the Mouse Hole Scholarship program. Blind Mice Inc is adding another $300.00 to the Mouse Hole Scholarships! 2018 Mousehole Scholarship Awards The Antonia M. Derks Memorial Scholarship: $1,500.00 The Antonia M. Derks Memorial Scholarship carries the name of a great lady. She never let anything block her path to her dreams! This award is awarded to the top applicant.! 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Remember, it is ten years in the future! Let your imagination go! About You: Who makes up your family and What are they like? What are your likes and dislikes. What are your strengths and weaknesses. What groups and organizations did you belong to in high school? What were your activities and interests in high school and how did they influence you? Did you continue these interests in college? How have the members of your family influenced you? What else has influenced you and your beliefs, goals, and dreams? Has blindness affected your ideas, goals, and dreams? About college: Why did you choose the college you attended? How did earning a college degree help you reach your goals? Why did you want to attend college and study in your chosen field? What was the hardest part of college and earning your degree? Upon entering college, what was your biggest fear and how did you overcome this fear? How did the Mouse Hole Scholarship help you? What did you expect college to be like? 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Applicants must be a high school graduate or equivalent and be graduating by the summer of 2018 and not have been previously enrolled solely in any college. If receiving a GED, it must be earned by the summer of 2018. Applicants must be attending a college or university degree program in the United States beginning in the Fall of 2018 or the Spring of 2019. The length of the essay will be at least six pages and not exceed fifteen pages. Essays may be submitted for consideration only in these ways: A. Electronically sent as attachments by e-mail B. Saved on a thumb drive and mailed Submissions sent as an attachment by e-mail or those saved on thumb drive must be in MS Word (.doc format) or text format. Entries received in any other formats will be disqualified and not considered for an award. The Information Cover Sheet and a letter of recommendation must accompany each essay. These documents must be in the same format as the essay. 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Please contact us with any questions: By E-mail: info at blindmicemegamall.com By Phone: call: 713 893 7277 Back to Top You received this message because you are a member of BlindMiceMegaMall.com No Longer Want to Be A Member? Cancel Your Membership-Please Allow 7 Days hello all, I hope that you all are doing well. I know that some of you are finishing up for the semester and, also looking for more scholarships for college. i'm forwarding to you about a scholarship program that is through blind mice mart. read on for more information on to apply and to learn all about it! goodluck to all! From kenia.flores at furman.edu Sun Mar 11 02:19:16 2018 From: kenia.flores at furman.edu (Kenia Flores-Student) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 02:19:16 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call Message-ID: Good evening, fellow students, I hope this message finds you all well. The Legislative Advocacy Committee will be having its monthly conference call tomorrow evening at 8pm eastern standard time. The call-in number is 712-770-5197, and the access code is 265669. We look forward to speaking with you tomorrow, and as always, please do not hesitate to reach out to me or co-chairs, Robert Parsons and Justin Salisbury. Best, Kenia Flores Kenia Flores Furman University '20 Department of Politics and International Affairs President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students Chair | National Association of Blind Students Legislative Advocacy Committee 704.476.6629 Kenia.flores at furman.edu From alexandera.castillo at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 19:13:11 2018 From: alexandera.castillo at gmail.com (Alexander Castillo) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:13:11 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials Message-ID: Hello all, I’ve been out of school for a while, working, however I’m getting that itch for stressful days and nights which will come with going back to school. I’ve taken the GRE before and need higher scores. Is there a study guide that’s preferred? I will not be using print or Braille. I’ve come across some guides which seem to have potential, and then run into the math portion not being fully accessible. Suggestions are welcome! Thanks, Alex From zdreicer at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 19:50:37 2018 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 13:50:37 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I’m getting ready to take the GRE on Wednesday, and Ive been studying using the online course provided by Educational testing consultants. They have live sessions with instructors and recorded sessions demonstrating each topic. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Mar 11, 2018, at 13:13, Alexander Castillo via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, I’ve been out of school for a while, working, however I’m > getting that itch for stressful days and nights which will come with > going back to school. I’ve taken the GRE before and need higher > scores. Is there a study guide that’s preferred? I will not be using > print or Braille. > > I’ve come across some guides which seem to have potential, and then > run into the math portion not being fully accessible. > > Suggestions are welcome! > Thanks, > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 20:16:07 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 16:16:07 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials Message-ID: <5aa58ef2.083b240a.f2509.c662@mx.google.com> Good luck! I hope it goes well. On Mar 11, 2018 3:50 PM, "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L" wrote: > > I’m getting ready to take the GRE on Wednesday, and Ive been studying using the online course provided by Educational testing consultants. They have live sessions with instructors and recorded sessions demonstrating each topic. > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > > On Mar 11, 2018, at 13:13, Alexander Castillo via NABS-L wrote: > > > > Hello all, I’ve been out of school for a while, working, however I’m > > getting that itch for stressful days and nights which will come with > > going back to school. I’ve taken the GRE before and need higher > > scores. Is there a study guide that’s preferred? I will not be using > > print or Braille. > > > > I’ve come across some guides which seem to have potential, and then > > run into the math portion not being fully accessible. > > > > Suggestions are welcome! > > Thanks, > > > > Alex > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 12:40:24 2018 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:40:24 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials Message-ID: <5aa66751.d7c0370a.8e07.9014@mx.google.com> Hi=20Alex, Honestly,=20I=20think=20if=20you're=20going=20to=20do=20the=20math=20portio= n=20 independently,=20using=20print=20or=20Braille=20would=20be=20the=20best=20o= ption.=20=20 Unless=20I'm=20much=20mistaken,=20the's=20really=20no=20reliable=20way=20to= =20do=20math=20 with=20just=20using=20JAWS.=20=20This=20is=20because=20math=20requires=20a= =20lot=20of=20 visual=20aspects=20to=20it=20that=20make=20it=20challenging=20for=20a=20com= puter.=20=20 Even=20if=20you=20don't=20use=20print=20or=20Braille=20on=20a=20regular=20b= asis,=20I=20=20 think=20that=20it=20would=20really=20be=20the=20best=20thing=20for=20doing= =20math=20 independently. If=20that's=20not=20a=20viable=20option,=20perhaps=20you=20could=20request= =20to=20have=20 someone=20scribe=20for=20you=20during=20the=20math=20portion=20of=20the=20G= RE.=20=20 They'd=20read=20you=20the=20questions=20and=20choices=20(if=20the=20questio= ns=20are=20 multiple=20choice),=20you'd=20tell=20them=20your=20answer,=20and=20then=20t= hey'd=20 write=20it=20down=20on=20the=20answer=20sheet.=20=20I'm=20currently=20using= =20one=20for=20 my=20required=20biology=20class=20because=20my=20Disability=20Services=20Of= fice=20 wasn't=20able=20to=20fully=20produce=20the=20materials=20in=20an=20accessib= le=20 format=20for=20me.=20=20Though=20I=20generally=20prefer=20to=20work=20on=20= my=20own=20as=20 well,=20working=20with=20my=20scribe=20has=20worked=20very=20well=20for=20 tests/homework=20in=20that=20particular=20class. Also,=20I'm=20not=20sure=20if=20=20the=20are=20any=20GRE=20prep=20classes=20= out=20there=20 like=20there=20are=20SAT/ACT=20prep,=20but=20I=20think=20that's=20really=20= something=20=20 you=20should=20consider.=20=20If=20you're=20part=20of=20your=20state's=20Vo= c=20Rehab=20 agency,=20you=20could=20ask=20your=20counselor=20to=20inquire=20about=20tho= se=20 classes.=20=20I=20think=20you=20could=20benefit=20from=20them,=20because=20= they=20 really=20help=20you=20to=20get=20a=20clear=20idea=20very=20what=20to=20expe= ct=20on=20the=20 test.=20=20(By=20the=20way,=20this=20doesn't=20just=20apply=20to=20only=20p= eople=20who=20 are=20blind;=20I=20took=20an=20SAT=20prep=20class=20before=20both=20times=20= I=20took=20the=20 test,=20and=20my=20younger=20brother,=20who=20is=20currently=20a=20sighted= =20junior=20 in=20high=20school,=20is=20also=20taking=20it=20for=20the=20ACT). I=20hope=20this=20helps,=20and=20if=20you're=20on=20spring=20break,=20I=20h= ope=20you=20have=20 a=20great=20week. Sami =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Roanna=20Bacchus=20via=20NABS-L=20=20wrote: =20I=E2=80=99m=20getting=20ready=20to=20take=20the=20GRE=20on=20Wednesday,= =20and=20Ive=20been=20 studying=20using=20the=20online=20course=20provided=20by=20Educational=20te= sting=20 consultants.=20=20They=20have=20live=20sessions=20with=20instructors=20and= =20 recorded=20sessions=20demonstrating=20each=20topic. =20The=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20knows=20that=20blindnes= s=20is=20not=20 the=20characteristic=20that=20defines=20you=20or=20your=20future.=20=20Ever= y=20day=20we=20 raise=20the=20expectations=20of=20blind=20people,=20because=20low=20expecta= tions=20 create=20obstacles=20between=20blind=20people=20and=20our=20dreams.=20=20Yo= u=20can=20 live=20the=20life=20you=20want;=20blindness=20is=20not=20what=20holds=20you= =20back. =20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone=207=20Using=20VoiceOver =20On=20Mar=2011,=202018,=20at=2013:13,=20Alexander=20Castillo=20via=20NABS= -L=20 =20wrote: =20Hello=20all,=20I=E2=80=99ve=20been=20out=20of=20school=20for=20a=20while= ,=20working,=20 however=20I=E2=80=99m =20getting=20that=20itch=20for=20stressful=20days=20and=20nights=20which=20= will=20come=20 with =20going=20back=20to=20school.=20=20I=E2=80=99ve=20taken=20the=20GRE=20befo= re=20and=20need=20 higher =20scores.=20=20Is=20there=20a=20study=20guide=20that=E2=80=99s=20preferred= ?=20I=20will=20not=20 be=20using =20print=20or=20Braille. =20I=E2=80=99ve=20come=20across=20some=20guides=20which=20seem=20to=20have= =20potential,=20and=20 then =20run=20into=20the=20math=20portion=20not=20being=20fully=20accessible. =20Suggestions=20are=20welcome! =20Thanks, =20Alex =20_______________________________________________ =20NABS-L=20mailing=20list =20NABS-L at nfbnet.org =20http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org =20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a= ccount=20 info=20for=20NABS-L: =20 http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm ail.com =20_______________________________________________ =20NABS-L=20mailing=20list =20NABS-L at nfbnet.org =20http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org =20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a= ccount=20 info=20for=20NABS-L: =20 http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%4 0gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L=20mailing=20list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20acco= unt=20info=20 for=20NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborn e97%40gmail.com From zdreicer at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 16:14:30 2018 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:14:30 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials In-Reply-To: <5aa66751.d7c0370a.8e07.9014@mx.google.com> References: <5aa66751.d7c0370a.8e07.9014@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Again, I second what Sami said, The quantitative reasoning portion of the test has quite a lot of graphics, as well as tables or other graph that would be very beneficial to have in braille or print. As just one example, some of the questions I had during my class were in reference to not one but two graphs at the same time, in reference to probability and statistics. I would definitely suggest looking at the class I emailed you about yesterday. I think the $750 or 24 hours of lecturing is well worth it. On a separate but related note, Trey requesting as much extra time as possible. I won’t be allowed twice the time on each section as a student without a disability on Wednesday On a separate but related note, try requesting as much extra time as possible. I will be allowed twice the time on each section as a student without a disability on Wednesday. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Mar 12, 2018, at 06:40, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > Honestly, I think if you're going to do the math portion independently, using print or Braille would be the best option. Unless I'm much mistaken, the's really no reliable way to do math with just using JAWS. This is because math requires a lot of visual aspects to it that make it challenging for a computer. Even if you don't use print or Braille on a regular basis, I think that it would really be the best thing for doing math independently. > > If that's not a viable option, perhaps you could request to have someone scribe for you during the math portion of the GRE. They'd read you the questions and choices (if the questions are multiple choice), you'd tell them your answer, and then they'd write it down on the answer sheet. I'm currently using one for my required biology class because my Disability Services Office wasn't able to fully produce the materials in an accessible format for me. Though I generally prefer to work on my own as well, working with my scribe has worked very well for tests/homework in that particular class. > > Also, I'm not sure if the are any GRE prep classes out there like there are SAT/ACT prep, but I think that's really something you should consider. If you're part of your state's Voc Rehab agency, you could ask your counselor to inquire about those classes. I think you could benefit from them, because they really help you to get a clear idea very what to expect on the test. (By the way, this doesn't just apply to only people who are blind; I took an SAT prep class before both times I took the test, and my younger brother, who is currently a sighted junior in high school, is also taking it for the ACT). > > I hope this helps, and if you're on spring break, I hope you have a great week. > > Sami > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L To: "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L" Date sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 16:16:07 -0400 > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] GRE study materials > > Good luck! I hope it goes well. > > On Mar 11, 2018 3:50 PM, "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via NABS-L" wrote: > > I’m getting ready to take the GRE on Wednesday, and Ive been studying using the online course provided by Educational testing consultants. They have live sessions with instructors and recorded sessions demonstrating each topic. > > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > > On Mar 11, 2018, at 13:13, Alexander Castillo via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello all, I’ve been out of school for a while, working, however I’m > getting that itch for stressful days and nights which will come with > going back to school. I’ve taken the GRE before and need higher > scores. Is there a study guide that’s preferred? I will not be using > print or Braille. > > I’ve come across some guides which seem to have potential, and then > run into the math portion not being fully accessible. > > Suggestions are welcome! > Thanks, > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gm > ail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborn > e97%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From keribcu at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 19:11:38 2018 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:11:38 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE questions Message-ID: <5aec49c6-7a2e-e039-6c7c-f0ee2f22eb33@gmail.com> hey all, I am looking to talk to people who have taken the GRE. How did you take it? What were your thoughts? I especially am interested in those who took the computerized version. thanks, -- Keri Svendsen From a.vias at outlook.com Mon Mar 12 19:26:00 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:26:00 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Talking to customer service on the phone Message-ID: Hey. Has anyone talked to customer service on the phone? Whenever I try to call customer service, I get very nervous. I had to spend 2 hours last weekend with the Microsoft Disability Desk. Have you been nervous when you called customer service for the first time, or any other business? -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder and CEO | Blindness Awareness and More Website: https//blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebokk: https://www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 19:40:43 2018 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:40:43 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Talking to customer service on the phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D52BAB7-292C-4C41-8B1A-3C750BC1D33A@gmail.com> Hi Armando, That must have been so annoying. I used to also get very nervous when calling. But the more you do it, the easier it will get. To this day I'm still someone who would prefer to just text and email, but the reality is that some conversations are just not possible without the phone. Also, older people often like using the phone more because they used it a lot when they were younger, so your older relatives may prefer you using the phone. Hope this helps. Vejas Vasiliauskas Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students Phone: 3102653949 Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com > On Mar 12, 2018, at 12:26, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey. Has anyone talked to customer service on the phone? Whenever I try to call customer service, I get very nervous. I had to spend 2 hours last weekend with the Microsoft Disability Desk. Have you been nervous when you called customer service for the first time, or any other business? > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder and CEO | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: https//blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebokk: https://www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From singingemmanuelle at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 19:41:28 2018 From: singingemmanuelle at gmail.com (Emmanuelle Lo) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:41:28 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Talking to customer service on the phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, I used to avoid calling places like that at all costs, but then I started applying to colleges. I had to call some of the schools to ask for certain information and schedule visits/appointments. I also had an issue come up where ACT couldn't find my test scores, so I had to talk to their customer service. So for me, the more experience I've had calling places, the less nervous I've become, though I haven't needed to call someone for tech help. Just remember that customer service's job is to help the people who call, so there's no reason to be worried. Hope this helps, Emmie > On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey. Has anyone talked to customer service on the phone? Whenever I try to call customer service, I get very nervous. I had to spend 2 hours last weekend with the Microsoft Disability Desk. Have you been nervous when you called customer service for the first time, or any other business? > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder and CEO | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: https//blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebokk: https://www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/singingemmanuelle%40gmail.com From jldail13 at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 19:51:31 2018 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:51:31 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Talking to customer service on the phone Message-ID: <5aa6da46.4ab56b0a.ac9e5.a914@mx.google.com> Hi, no, I've never been nervous, I've just been worried about getting someone who actually knows how to help me. These days, that's not a problem for me. On Mar 12, 2018 3:26 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey. Has anyone talked to customer service on the phone? Whenever I try to call customer service, I get very nervous. I had to spend 2 hours last weekend with the Microsoft Disability Desk. Have you been nervous when you called customer service for the first time, or any other business? > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder and CEO | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: https//blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebokk: https://www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Tue Mar 13 01:53:36 2018 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 20:53:36 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] FW: 2018 NCAA Bracket in Braille Message-ID: > >From: Chittum, Greg (DBVI) >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:16 PM >Subject: FW: 2018 NCAA Bracket in Braille > >Since you’re all disappointed about the >canceled ballroom dancing, I have something to get excited about! >Use your time filling out a March Madness >bracket instead!! (see below and attachment) > >Don’t act like you’re not excited Melody! > >From: David McCollam >[mailto:dmccollam at alliedinstructional.com] > >To: Chittum, Greg (DBVI) >Subject: 2018 NCAA Bracket in Braille > > >Hi Greg! > > > >I just finished creating an NCAA Tournament >Bracket for DA in Duxbury. I probably didn't do >the greatest job, but I wanted to make it as >realistic as possible with the seedings, brackets, etc. > > > >I have attached a copy of it in case you may >know anyone who might be interested in it. > > > >Thank you, and HAPPY MARCH MADNESS! > > > >David McCollam, M.S.Ed. > >Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist > >Teacher of Students with Visual Impairments > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NCAA Bracket.dxb Type: application/octet-stream Size: 20928 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hstaley at nfbtx.org Tue Mar 13 13:11:49 2018 From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:11:49 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] 2018 NFB of Texas Youth Conference Message-ID: Hosted by the Texas Association of Blind Students (TABS) and NFB-NEWSLINE® Texas , the 2018 Youth Conference promises to be a dynamic program designed to help high school and college students hone their communication skills enabling them to live the lives they want. Students will come together for engaging sessions, empowering presentations, hands-on learning, in an effort to build lifelong relationships and achieve their goals. WHEN: Friday, April 13, 2018 to Sunday, April 15, 2018 LOCATION: San Antonio, Texas VENUE: Holiday Inn Downtown Market Square REGISTRATION AND MORE DETAILS: More details and registration can be found at the following link. https://www.nfbtx.org/events.php?id=48 Harry Staley President Texas Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind San Antonio 330-718-1876 Hstaley at nfbtx.org From desai1shikha at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:52:47 2018 From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:52:47 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention Message-ID: Hello, I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I have to take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to go to national convention. Should i come or not I am not sure what to do. Thanks, Shikha. From lakeria2009 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 15:17:52 2018 From: lakeria2009 at gmail.com (LaKeria Taylor) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:17:52 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every summer. This is just my opinion. lol On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: > Hello, > I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I have to > take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to go to national > convention. Should i come or not > I am not sure what to do. > Thanks, > > > Shikha. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com > From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 15:20:45 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:20:45 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F3109E9-B891-48F6-9B42-0D6883A173F0@gmail.com> Conventions can be streamed Apple devices and I'm sure this year it will be broadcast on Facebook live. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L wrote: > > Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every summer. > > This is just my opinion. lol > >> On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >> Hello, >> I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I have to >> take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to go to national >> convention. Should i come or not >> I am not sure what to do. >> Thanks, >> >> >> Shikha. >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From jldail13 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 15:23:41 2018 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:23:41 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention Message-ID: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> Hi, If I were you, I'd fuocus on my classes. On Mar 13, 2018 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L wrote: > > Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every summer. > > This is just my opinion. lol > > On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, > > I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I have to > > take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to go to national > > convention. Should i come or not > > I am not sure what to do. > > Thanks, > > > > > > Shikha. > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 15:39:00 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:39:00 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> References: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> Not sure what your school's policies are, but if it's at all possible, you could start in the fall, although this will set you back a semester. In the end, it's up to you. If this is possible, you'll get to accomplish both things. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > If I were you, I'd fuocus on my classes. > >> On Mar 13, 2018 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every summer. >> >> This is just my opinion. lol >> >>> On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I have to >>> take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to go to national >>> convention. Should i come or not >>> I am not sure what to do. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Shikha. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:10:53 2018 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 12:10:53 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> References: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> Message-ID: <03ef01d3bae5$ddf98230$99ec8690$@gmail.com> Treu, you could start in the fall; nothing better than starting clases right after a convention, but I'd try and see how the week fell; if it forced you to miss classes time or what. If you think you'll miss too many classes, and in summer school, its possible, than maybe you don't go. But, if you can get the work, reading, assignments, from the professor, or the syllabus early, you could still keep up with the work while at convention. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Santiago via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:39 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Santiago Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention Not sure what your school's policies are, but if it's at all possible, you could start in the fall, although this will set you back a semester. In the end, it's up to you. If this is possible, you'll get to accomplish both things. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > If I were you, I'd fuocus on my classes. > >> On Mar 13, 2018 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every summer. >> >> This is just my opinion. lol >> >>> On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I >>> have to take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to >>> go to national convention. Should i come or not I am not sure what >>> to do. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Shikha. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gm >>> ail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail. >> com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hern > andez%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From tyler at tysdomain.com Tue Mar 13 16:22:14 2018 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 12:22:14 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> References: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's graduate, I'd be worried about missing classes just to go to convention. Go to class, go to convention next summer. It happens every year, don't slow your education just to go spend a week at convention. It's about priorities. On 3/13/2018 11:39 AM, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > Not sure what your school's policies are, but if it's at all possible, you could start in the fall, although this will set you back a semester. In the end, it's up to you. If this is possible, you'll get to accomplish both things. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi, >> If I were you, I'd fuocus on my classes. >> >>> On Mar 13, 2018 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every summer. >>> >>> This is just my opinion. lol >>> >>>> On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I have to >>>> take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to go to national >>>> convention. Should i come or not >>>> I am not sure what to do. >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> Shikha. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:30:06 2018 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:30:06 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Outreach Committee Meeting Tonight, March 13th, 9PM Eastern Message-ID: <352B5FFD-E002-4039-BC12-1204B63A76DD@gmail.com> Greetings NABSters! > > The outreach committee of the National Association of Blind Students will be meeting once again tonight, March 13 at 9 PM eastern! Join us in our efforts to grow our membership and keep the members informed by getting on the phone with us and sharing your wonderful ideas. > > Call: 712-770-5197 > Access code: 265669 > > see you there! -Syed Rizvi From desai1shikha at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 17:13:59 2018 From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:13:59 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: <03ef01d3bae5$ddf98230$99ec8690$@gmail.com> References: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> <03ef01d3bae5$ddf98230$99ec8690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for all of the advice!!! Shikha. > On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Treu, you could start in the fall; nothing better than starting clases right > after a convention, but I'd try and see how the week fell; if it forced you > to miss classes time or what. If you think you'll miss too many classes, > and in summer school, its possible, than maybe you don't go. But, if you can > get the work, reading, assignments, from the professor, or the syllabus > early, you could still keep up with the work while at convention. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Santiago via > NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:39 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Santiago > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention > > Not sure what your school's policies are, but if it's at all possible, you > could start in the fall, although this will set you back a semester. In the > end, it's up to you. If this is possible, you'll get to accomplish both > things. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Jessica Dail via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> If I were you, I'd fuocus on my classes. >> >>> On Mar 13, 2018 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L > wrote: >>> >>> Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every > summer. >>> >>> This is just my opinion. lol >>> >>>> On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I >>>> have to take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to >>>> go to national convention. Should i come or not I am not sure what >>>> to do. >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> Shikha. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail. >>> com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hern >> andez%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Tue Mar 13 17:46:18 2018 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (steve.jacobson at visi.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 12:46:18 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: References: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> <03ef01d3bae5$ddf98230$99ec8690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006301d3baf3$3137b4f0$93a71ed0$@visi.com> Shikha, Since I commented on this on our Human Services list, I wanted to post them here as well. While I would agree with the importance of attending class, you should really check to see what the schedule is like given the Fourth of July holiday. There may be extra days off. Also, there is a lot about going to the convention that is not covered by listening to the stream. Sometimes, one can even get some credit for attending the convention if one works with a professor. You could even check to see if there is the ability to attend classes remotely. Having said all this, though, one should not risk failing a course because of choosing to miss classes. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Shikha via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:14 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Shikha Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention Thanks for all of the advice!!! Shikha. > On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Treu, you could start in the fall; nothing better than starting clases right > after a convention, but I'd try and see how the week fell; if it forced you > to miss classes time or what. If you think you'll miss too many classes, > and in summer school, its possible, than maybe you don't go. But, if you can > get the work, reading, assignments, from the professor, or the syllabus > early, you could still keep up with the work while at convention. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Santiago via > NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:39 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Santiago > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention > > Not sure what your school's policies are, but if it's at all possible, you > could start in the fall, although this will set you back a semester. In the > end, it's up to you. If this is possible, you'll get to accomplish both > things. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Jessica Dail via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> If I were you, I'd fuocus on my classes. >> >>> On Mar 13, 2018 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L > wrote: >>> >>> Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every > summer. >>> >>> This is just my opinion. lol >>> >>>> On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I >>>> have to take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to >>>> go to national convention. Should i come or not I am not sure what >>>> to do. >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> Shikha. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail. >>> com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hern >> andez%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.co m From rloew at ETS.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:40:57 2018 From: rloew at ETS.ORG (Loew, Ruth C) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:40:57 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials Message-ID: Hi - I'm with the ETS Office of Disability Policy, and I know many of you from NABS meetings. I lurk on this list. I've been following the thread about GRE study materials and using JAWS for math. The GRE General Test has recently changed to a new delivery platform that is accessible using JAWS, with or without a refreshable braille display. It is true that JAWS doesn't read all math notation successfully at this point; but for this test, math expressions and figure descriptions are provided in words and numbers for delivery to JAWS. In addition, for those who read braille and/or use tactile graphics, optional embossed supplements contain the test content of the math sections, including math notation (in Nemeth code) and tactile graphics. To obtain practice materials, see https://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/prepare/powerprep/practice_test_software." "Screen Reader and Refreshable Braille Compatibility" is at the bottom of the page. I hope this information is helpful. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me. Ruth C. 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Thank you for your compliance. ________________________________ From desai1shikha at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:10:07 2018 From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:10:07 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: <03ef01d3bae5$ddf98230$99ec8690$@gmail.com> References: <5aa7ed03.15726b0a.a5a77.147c@mx.google.com> <025AA3A1-18CB-417F-83F6-DF68DCD5C349@gmail.com> <03ef01d3bae5$ddf98230$99ec8690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Shikha. > On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L wrote: > > Treu, you could start in the fall; nothing better than starting clases right > after a convention, but I'd try and see how the week fell; if it forced you > to miss classes time or what. If you think you'll miss too many classes, > and in summer school, its possible, than maybe you don't go. But, if you can > get the work, reading, assignments, from the professor, or the syllabus > early, you could still keep up with the work while at convention. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Santiago via > NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:39 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Santiago > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention > > Not sure what your school's policies are, but if it's at all possible, you > could start in the fall, although this will set you back a semester. In the > end, it's up to you. If this is possible, you'll get to accomplish both > things. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Jessica Dail via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> If I were you, I'd fuocus on my classes. >> >>> On Mar 13, 2018 11:17 AM, LaKeria Taylor via NABS-L > wrote: >>> >>> Classes are far more imortant than convention. Conventions are every > summer. >>> >>> This is just my opinion. lol >>> >>>> On 3/13/18, Shikha via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I >>>> have to take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to >>>> go to national convention. Should i come or not I am not sure what >>>> to do. >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> Shikha. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gm >>>> ail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail. >>> com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hern >> andez%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com From cjmullin225 at aol.com Tue Mar 13 20:43:46 2018 From: cjmullin225 at aol.com (Connor Mullin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:43:46 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction Message-ID: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Hello everyone, My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. Connor Mullin From a.vias at outlook.com Tue Mar 13 20:47:31 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:47:31 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction In-Reply-To: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> References: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Message-ID: Hey. Nice to meet you! Check out my website below. Also, you can feel free to text me at 478567111 -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder and CEO | Blindness Awareness and More Website: https//www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Connor Mullin via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech > University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very > excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. > When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass > player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. > > Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. > > > > Connor Mullin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8e91f683ef004437641408d5892345bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636565706948824809&sdata=4GsVGKTygigMG2iTefcU2IZH%2BG48%2Bq6utD3a1PeSE4k%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8e91f683ef004437641408d5892345bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636565706948824809&sdata=TBsieBHXejDkPVXtBBBuZSPWzgfq7Ly3vn5bETirREU%3D&reserved=0 From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:53:38 2018 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:53:38 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello, nice to meet you. On 3/13/18, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > Hey. Nice to meet you! Check out my website below. Also, you can feel free > to text me at 478567111 > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder and CEO | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: https//www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: > blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Connor Mullin via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> >> My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech >> University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very >> excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know >> y'all. >> When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a >> bass >> player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. >> >> Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. >> >> >> >> Connor Mullin >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8e91f683ef004437641408d5892345bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636565706948824809&sdata=4GsVGKTygigMG2iTefcU2IZH%2BG48%2Bq6utD3a1PeSE4k%3D&reserved=0 >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8e91f683ef004437641408d5892345bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636565706948824809&sdata=TBsieBHXejDkPVXtBBBuZSPWzgfq7Ly3vn5bETirREU%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:55:04 2018 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:55:04 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction In-Reply-To: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> References: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Message-ID: <043801d3bb0d$9062a830$b127f890$@gmail.com> Good to meet you, conner. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Connor Mullin via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:44 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Connor Mullin Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction Hello everyone, My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. Connor Mullin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:55:16 2018 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:55:16 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction In-Reply-To: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> References: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Message-ID: <043901d3bb0d$979a30f0$c6ce92d0$@gmail.com> Oops, Connor, -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Connor Mullin via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:44 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Connor Mullin Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction Hello everyone, My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. Connor Mullin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From ropermeaghan at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 21:36:15 2018 From: ropermeaghan at gmail.com (Roper, Meaghan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:36:15 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Message-ID: <055C0D09-7AC2-45D8-8C77-04FF894BCB97@gmail.com> Hi Connor, Welcome to the list serve. Louisiana Tech has some great programs. Congratulations on your new course of studies. Meaghan Meaghan Roper Wheelock college | Class of 2018 > On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey. Nice to meet you! Check out my website below. Also, you can feel free to text me at 478567111 > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder and CEO | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: https//www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Connor Mullin via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> >> My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech >> University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very >> excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. >> When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass >> player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. >> >> Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. >> >> >> >> Connor Mullin >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8e91f683ef004437641408d5892345bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636565706948824809&sdata=4GsVGKTygigMG2iTefcU2IZH%2BG48%2Bq6utD3a1PeSE4k%3D&reserved=0 >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8e91f683ef004437641408d5892345bb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636565706948824809&sdata=TBsieBHXejDkPVXtBBBuZSPWzgfq7Ly3vn5bETirREU%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ropermeaghan%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue Mar 13 22:28:56 2018 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:28:56 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shikha, That is up to you. But, if you miss a week of classes, it may be impossible to catch up given the fact classes are condensed in summer. I suggest listening to the stream instead. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Shikha via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:52 AM To: National Association of Blind Students Cc: Shikha Subject: [NABS-L] Summer classes clashing with convention Hello, I got accepted in to Georgia state grad school for social work. I have to take classes during the summer. I would really badly like to go to national convention. Should i come or not I am not sure what to do. Thanks, Shikha. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From mikgephart at icloud.com Tue Mar 13 22:31:00 2018 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:31:00 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction In-Reply-To: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> References: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Message-ID: <4FA9B92B-5826-4070-BF26-C775E2F734B6@icloud.com> Hi Connor, Great to meet you. I am finishing up my last year of high school, and am planning on starting at LCB in September. Look forward to meeting you there. Mikayla Sent from my iPad > On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Connor Mullin via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech > University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very > excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. > When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass > player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. > > Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. > > > > Connor Mullin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mikgephart%40icloud.com From zdreicer at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 23:11:35 2018 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:11:35 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction In-Reply-To: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> References: <002001d3bb0b$fc78b5c0$f56a2140$@aol.com> Message-ID: <18EE047F-7769-4636-8064-83196CCCC477@gmail.com> Nice to meet you at least over email, see you in Louisiana! I plan on starting there in the summer The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Sent from my iPhone 7 Using VoiceOver > On Mar 13, 2018, at 14:43, Connor Mullin via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech > University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very > excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. > When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass > player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. > > Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. > > > > Connor Mullin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 19:44:08 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 15:44:08 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction Message-ID: <5aa97b9f.0ce4810a.e4bf9.2ce3@mx.google.com> Hi Connor welcome to the list. My name is Roanna Bacchus I hope you enjoy your time here. On Mar 13, 2018 4:43 PM, Connor Mullin via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech > University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very > excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. > When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass > player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. > > Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. > > > > Connor Mullin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From president.iabs at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 00:58:27 2018 From: president.iabs at gmail.com (Kathryn Olsen) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 00:58:27 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] IABS Call Invitation Message-ID: Hey Fellow Students, Happy spring break season! Hope this message finds you all doing well. The Iowa Association of Blind Students would like to invite you to our call this Sunday, March 18th at 7 PM Central. We always love having guests on our calls so we hope you can make it! The call in information is as follows: C <605-475-4120;7972692%23>all: 605-475-4120 <605-475-4120;7972692%23> Access Code: 7972692 All the best, Katy Olsen -- Katy Olsen President | Iowa Association of Blind Students Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Iowa Cell: 515-783-4522 Email: president.iabs at gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Thu Mar 15 01:35:14 2018 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 20:35:14 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Midwest Braille Conference in May Message-ID: Braille Conference 2018 Reminder.pdf 3rd Annual Midwest Regional Braille Conference Reminder! May 17 – 18, 2018 Held at the Outback Event Center, 1321 East 78th St. Bloomington, MN Sessions will begin at 1pm on Thursday, May 17th. Dinner will be provided. All day sessions will run on Friday, May 18th. Lunch will be provided. A Graphiti ™ prototype demonstration will be included with the advanced BrailleBlaster ™ session on Friday! Tour of the State Services for the Blind Communications Center planned for the evening of Thursday, May 17th. Registration Fee: $75.00 Click here for the conference agenda and on-line registration Hotel Rooms $125.00 per night (includes all taxes & fees) Comfort Inn Airport: 1321 E. 78th St. Bloomington, MN 55425 # (952) 854-3400 Click here to make hotel reservations Use “Midwest Braille Conference Block” when making reservations Contact Gail Jankowski with questions regarding on-line registration: gail.jankowski at metroecsu.org Contact Kristin Oien with questions regarding the conference: kristin.oien at state.mn.us Hope to see you in Minnesota this May! From dandrews at visi.com Thu Mar 15 02:18:24 2018 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 21:18:24 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] FW: CSUN program and Sessions are now available for download in HTML, EPUB, and DAISY Message-ID: > >For any of you who are going to the CSUN Technology Conference... > >Dave > > > > >David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer >Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development >State Services for the Blind >2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114 >Direct: 651-539-2294 >Web | Twitter | >Facebook >[DEED SSB Logo Black and White] > > >From: George Kerscher [mailto:kerscher at montana.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:04 AM >Subject: CSUN program and Sessions are now available for download in >HTML, EPUB, and DAISY > >I thought this would be of high interest to anybody going to CSUN. > >The DAISY Consortium is delighted to once again support the CSUN >Assistive Technology Conference by creating accessible digital >versions of the conference materials, and offering them for download >in HTML, DAISY 2.02 and EPUB formats. Thanks to the CSUN Conference >Team for making the information available in advance to facilitate conversion. > >http://www.daisy.org/csun-2018-files > >Best >George > >George Kerscher Ph.D. >-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. >Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium >http://www.daisy.org >Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech >http://www.benetech.org >President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) >http://www.idpf.org >Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) >http://www.imls.gov >Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a >division of the W3C >http://www.w3c.org/wai >Phone: +1 406/549-4687 >Cell:+1 406/544-2466 >Email: kerscher at montana.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >DTB-Talk mailing list >DTB-Talk at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/dtb-talk_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for DTB-Talk: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/dtb-talk_nfbnet.org/dandrews%40visi.com From cjmullin225 at aol.com Sat Mar 17 00:07:23 2018 From: cjmullin225 at aol.com (cjmullin225 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:07:23 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction Message-ID: <00d901d3bd83$eee64470$ccb2cd50$@aol.com> Hi, Thanks everyone for your replies, and to those who are or will be at LCB in the coming months, looking forward to meeting you. Have a great weekend everyone, Connor Mullin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:00 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: NABS-L Digest, Vol 137, Issue 15 Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to nabs-l at nfbnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org You can reach the person managing the list at nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Introduction (Roanna Bacchus) 2. IABS Call Invitation (Kathryn Olsen) 3. Midwest Braille Conference in May (David Andrews) 4. FW: CSUN program and Sessions are now available for download in HTML, EPUB, and DAISY (David Andrews) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 15:44:08 -0400 From: Roanna Bacchus To: Connor Mullin via NABS-L Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Introduction Message-ID: <5aa97b9f.0ce4810a.e4bf9.2ce3 at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Connor welcome to the list. My name is Roanna Bacchus I hope you enjoy your time here. On Mar 13, 2018 4:43 PM, Connor Mullin via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > My name is Connor, and I am an incoming grad student at Louisiana Tech > University for their orientation and mobility master's program. I am very > excited to be a student once again and am also excited to get to know y'all. > When I'm not hitting the books (or tapping the cane), I enjoy being a bass > player, an avid reader, and active member of the blindness community. > > Thanks for reading: I look forward to getting more involved. > > > > Connor Mullin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.co m ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 00:58:27 +0000 From: Kathryn Olsen To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" Subject: [NABS-L] IABS Call Invitation Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey Fellow Students, Happy spring break season! Hope this message finds you all doing well. The Iowa Association of Blind Students would like to invite you to our call this Sunday, March 18th at 7 PM Central. We always love having guests on our calls so we hope you can make it! The call in information is as follows: C <605-475-4120;7972692%23>all: 605-475-4120 <605-475-4120;7972692%23> Access Code: 7972692 All the best, Katy Olsen -- Katy Olsen President | Iowa Association of Blind Students Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of Iowa Cell: 515-783-4522 Email: president.iabs at gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 20:35:14 -0500 From: David Andrews To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org Subject: [NABS-L] Midwest Braille Conference in May Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Braille Conference 2018 Reminder.pdf 3rd Annual Midwest Regional Braille Conference Reminder! May 17 ? 18, 2018 Held at the Outback Event Center, 1321 East 78th St. Bloomington, MN Sessions will begin at 1pm on Thursday, May 17th. Dinner will be provided. All day sessions will run on Friday, May 18th. Lunch will be provided. A Graphiti ? prototype demonstration will be included with the advanced BrailleBlaster ? session on Friday! Tour of the State Services for the Blind Communications Center planned for the evening of Thursday, May 17th. Registration Fee: $75.00 Click here for the conference agenda and on-line registration Hotel Rooms $125.00 per night (includes all taxes & fees) Comfort Inn Airport: 1321 E. 78th St. Bloomington, MN 55425 # (952) 854-3400 Click here to make hotel reservations Use ?Midwest Braille Conference Block? when making reservations Contact Gail Jankowski with questions regarding on-line registration: gail.jankowski at metroecsu.org Contact Kristin Oien with questions regarding the conference: kristin.oien at state.mn.us Hope to see you in Minnesota this May! ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 21:18:24 -0500 From: David Andrews To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org Subject: [NABS-L] FW: CSUN program and Sessions are now available for download in HTML, EPUB, and DAISY Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >For any of you who are going to the CSUN Technology Conference... > >Dave > > > > >David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer >Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development >State Services for the Blind >2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114 >Direct: 651-539-2294 >Web | Twitter | >Facebook >[DEED SSB Logo Black and White] > > >From: George Kerscher [mailto:kerscher at montana.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:04 AM >Subject: CSUN program and Sessions are now available for download in >HTML, EPUB, and DAISY > >I thought this would be of high interest to anybody going to CSUN. > >The DAISY Consortium is delighted to once again support the CSUN >Assistive Technology Conference by creating accessible digital >versions of the conference materials, and offering them for download >in HTML, DAISY 2.02 and EPUB formats. Thanks to the CSUN Conference >Team for making the information available in advance to facilitate conversion. > >http://www.daisy.org/csun-2018-files > >Best >George > >George Kerscher Ph.D. >-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. >Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium >http://www.daisy.org >Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech >http://www.benetech.org >President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) >http://www.idpf.org >Member of the National Museum and Library Services Board (IMLS) >http://www.imls.gov >Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), a >division of the W3C >http://www.w3c.org/wai >Phone: +1 406/549-4687 >Cell:+1 406/544-2466 >Email: kerscher at montana.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >DTB-Talk mailing list >DTB-Talk at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/dtb-talk_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for DTB-Talk: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/dtb-talk_nfbnet.org/dandrews%40visi.com ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org ------------------------------ End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 137, Issue 15 *************************************** From laniemolinar91 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:00:40 2018 From: laniemolinar91 at gmail.com (Lanie Molinar) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:00:40 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop Message-ID: Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:02:13 2018 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:02:13 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College Message-ID: Dear Students, An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. Thank you. Syed Rizvi 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com 4132503523 “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller From emitchell927 at icloud.com Sat Mar 17 16:13:19 2018 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:13:19 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A Mac might be an option for you. Emma Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40icloud.com From gutz2020 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:19:26 2018 From: gutz2020 at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:19:26 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E5766F0-4155-4235-BD01-5262DB4F32C9@gmail.com> Hey Syed, I’m currently double majoring in Spanish so I’ve taken my fair share of language courses. Maybe I can help? I will say though that I’ve also run into a lot of difficulties with it. Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:02, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Students, > An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. > Thank you. > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gutz2020%40gmail.com From keribcu at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:24:34 2018 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:24:34 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I highly suggest braille for foreign language a display or hard copy. On 3/17/2018 12:02 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > Dear Students, > An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. > Thank you. > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From milannovakovic99 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:31:49 2018 From: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com (Milan Novakovic) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:31:49 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I have experience in Spanish to the 203 level. Sincerely, Milan Novakovic Department of Political Science University of North Carolina at Greensboro Email: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author Unknown > On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:02, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Students, > An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. > Thank you. > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/milannovakovic99%40gmail.com From laniemolinar91 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:32:07 2018 From: laniemolinar91 at gmail.com (Lanie Molinar) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:32:07 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92eb979e-4fc9-ad08-b35b-34aeeda6b742@gmail.com> I just haven't been sure about that. I've never used an Apple device, and I have an Android phone and a Chromebook. I'm not sure how a Mac would fit with those two. On 3/17/2018 11:13 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: > A Mac might be an option for you. > Emma > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40icloud.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:33:10 2018 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:33:10 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B20678A-D701-4370-8FB4-CF226A23B6D2@gmail.com> Hi There I'm a French minor and about to get my Bachelor's this June. I can help. Thanks Robert Parsons Jr. > On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Students, > An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. > Thank you. > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rob.parso3389%40gmail.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Sat Mar 17 16:47:30 2018 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:47:30 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: <92eb979e-4fc9-ad08-b35b-34aeeda6b742@gmail.com> References: <92eb979e-4fc9-ad08-b35b-34aeeda6b742@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you've never used a mac don't get one now. voiceover is totally different from what you're used to. On 3/17/2018 12:32 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: > I just haven't been sure about that. I've never used an Apple device, > and I have an Android phone and a Chromebook. I'm not sure how a Mac > would fit with those two. > > > On 3/17/2018 11:13 AM, Emma Mitchell via NABS-L wrote: >> A Mac might be an option for you. >> Emma >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of >>> lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software >>> development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new >>> laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a >>> little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. >>> I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so >>> I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several >>> disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I >>> can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer >>> doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing >>> lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with >>> Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if >>> that seems better. I would also be happy with something running >>> Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of >>> RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look >>> for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle >>> being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is >>> low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good >>> payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a >>> laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For >>> those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what >>> would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> http://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/emitchell927%40icloud.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From hn.nopbc at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 17:11:52 2018 From: hn.nopbc at gmail.com (Himanshu Neema) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:11:52 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> Hi Lanie, As a blind user and otherwise as well what makes sense these days is to buy a laptop with only a large SSD in it. I recommend a laptop with at least 1 TB SSD in it instead of regular hard drive. The reason is that a lot of time is spent not only in memory access but also on input-output, even if it is happening behind the scene by the application in temporary directories or even by the operating system at the core. You will see a very large improvement in speed as compared to the one with regular hard drive. For blind users screen readers are also resource hogs so having a laptop with only SSD in it helps a lot. Don’t get the one with hybrid drive either. If it is too expensive, a laptop with 512GB SSD might do it for you. Also, you can always create a partition in the drive and install Linux no matter what the operating system (such as Windows or Mac OS) is installed originally. Another easier alternative is to install open-source software called “Oracle VirtualBox” and you can run any operating system in it such as Ubuntu Linux, Mac, etc. I think Microsoft Surface Books are quite good. Another option is to consider Dell laptops. Lastly, I found in the past that Office Depot might provide you a good deal on a pre-configured laptop. Also, Best Buy provide something on the order of $100 discount for students. Dell also has special website for computers for higher education folks. Hope this helps. Best, Himanshu Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hn.nopbc%40gmail.com From lakeria2009 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 17:39:06 2018 From: lakeria2009 at gmail.com (Lakeria Taylor) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 12:39:06 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: <4B20678A-D701-4370-8FB4-CF226A23B6D2@gmail.com> References: <4B20678A-D701-4370-8FB4-CF226A23B6D2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <75846E38-FD5F-4403-A575-5830F274FD07@gmail.com> I am currently taking French if that’s what she needs. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Robert Parsons via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi There > > > I'm a French minor and about to get my Bachelor's this June. I can help. > > Thanks > > Robert Parsons Jr. > > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Dear Students, >> An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. >> Thank you. >> >> Syed Rizvi >> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >> 4132503523 >> “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rob.parso3389%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lakeria2009%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 17:54:30 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:54:30 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College Message-ID: <5aad5659.57719d0a.c2332.486a@mx.google.com> Hi Syed thanks for your message. When I took Spanish one and two in college, my textbooks were on Cd's. All of the assignments were submitted online using the Sakai system. On Mar 17, 2018 12:02 PM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Students, > An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. > Thank you. > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From laniemolinar91 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 18:39:29 2018 From: laniemolinar91 at gmail.com (Lanie Molinar) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:39:29 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> References: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> Message-ID: I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this: https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think? On 3/17/2018 12:11 PM, Himanshu Neema via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Lanie, > > As a blind user and otherwise as well what makes sense these days is to buy a laptop with only a large SSD in it. I recommend a laptop with at least 1 TB SSD in it instead of regular hard drive. The reason is that a lot of time is spent not only in memory access but also on input-output, even if it is happening behind the scene by the application in temporary directories or even by the operating system at the core. You will see a very large improvement in speed as compared to the one with regular hard drive. For blind users screen readers are also resource hogs so having a laptop with only SSD in it helps a lot. Don’t get the one with hybrid drive either. If it is too expensive, a laptop with 512GB SSD might do it for you. > > Also, you can always create a partition in the drive and install Linux no matter what the operating system (such as Windows or Mac OS) is installed originally. Another easier alternative is to install open-source software called “Oracle VirtualBox” and you can run any operating system in it such as Ubuntu Linux, Mac, etc. > > I think Microsoft Surface Books are quite good. Another option is to consider Dell laptops. > > Lastly, I found in the past that Office Depot might provide you a good deal on a pre-configured laptop. Also, Best Buy provide something on the order of $100 discount for students. Dell also has special website for computers for higher education folks. > > Hope this helps. > Best, > Himanshu > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hn.nopbc%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 19:03:33 2018 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:03:33 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you so much. I will follow up off thread. Syed Rizvi 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com 4132503523 “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Milan Novakovic via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > > I have experience in Spanish to the 203 level. > > Sincerely, > > Milan Novakovic > Department of Political Science > University of North Carolina at Greensboro > Email: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com > Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 > "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author Unknown > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:02, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Dear Students, >> An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. >> Thank you. >> >> Syed Rizvi >> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >> 4132503523 >> “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/milannovakovic99%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com From jhud7789 at twc.com Sat Mar 17 19:34:45 2018 From: jhud7789 at twc.com (Joseph Hutson) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:34:45 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: References: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EEEA0A2-7ABD-4D9F-B1C3-C7215D35F16B@twc.com> Laney, everything looks good. Except possibly the price tag. But I guess if you can afford it, it looks good. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: > > I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this: > https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS > I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think? > > >> On 3/17/2018 12:11 PM, Himanshu Neema via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Lanie, >> >> As a blind user and otherwise as well what makes sense these days is to buy a laptop with only a large SSD in it. I recommend a laptop with at least 1 TB SSD in it instead of regular hard drive. The reason is that a lot of time is spent not only in memory access but also on input-output, even if it is happening behind the scene by the application in temporary directories or even by the operating system at the core. You will see a very large improvement in speed as compared to the one with regular hard drive. For blind users screen readers are also resource hogs so having a laptop with only SSD in it helps a lot. Don’t get the one with hybrid drive either. If it is too expensive, a laptop with 512GB SSD might do it for you. >> >> Also, you can always create a partition in the drive and install Linux no matter what the operating system (such as Windows or Mac OS) is installed originally. Another easier alternative is to install open-source software called “Oracle VirtualBox” and you can run any operating system in it such as Ubuntu Linux, Mac, etc. >> >> I think Microsoft Surface Books are quite good. Another option is to consider Dell laptops. >> >> Lastly, I found in the past that Office Depot might provide you a good deal on a pre-configured laptop. Also, Best Buy provide something on the order of $100 discount for students. Dell also has special website for computers for higher education folks. >> >> Hope this helps. >> Best, >> Himanshu >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hn.nopbc%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40twc.com From laniemolinar91 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 20:48:22 2018 From: laniemolinar91 at gmail.com (Lanie Molinar) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:48:22 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: <4EEEA0A2-7ABD-4D9F-B1C3-C7215D35F16B@twc.com> References: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> <4EEEA0A2-7ABD-4D9F-B1C3-C7215D35F16B@twc.com> Message-ID: It is expensive, but it has everything I need. Also, I've been doing research and most really good laptops seem to be around that price point. I'm going to be using it hard every day, so I need something that can handle that and won't have problems. On 3/17/2018 2:34 PM, Joseph Hutson via NABS-L wrote: > Laney, everything looks good. Except possibly the price tag. But I guess if you can afford it, it looks good. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this: >> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS >> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think? >> >> >>> On 3/17/2018 12:11 PM, Himanshu Neema via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Lanie, >>> >>> As a blind user and otherwise as well what makes sense these days is to buy a laptop with only a large SSD in it. I recommend a laptop with at least 1 TB SSD in it instead of regular hard drive. The reason is that a lot of time is spent not only in memory access but also on input-output, even if it is happening behind the scene by the application in temporary directories or even by the operating system at the core. You will see a very large improvement in speed as compared to the one with regular hard drive. For blind users screen readers are also resource hogs so having a laptop with only SSD in it helps a lot. Don’t get the one with hybrid drive either. If it is too expensive, a laptop with 512GB SSD might do it for you. >>> >>> Also, you can always create a partition in the drive and install Linux no matter what the operating system (such as Windows or Mac OS) is installed originally. Another easier alternative is to install open-source software called “Oracle VirtualBox” and you can run any operating system in it such as Ubuntu Linux, Mac, etc. >>> >>> I think Microsoft Surface Books are quite good. Another option is to consider Dell laptops. >>> >>> Lastly, I found in the past that Office Depot might provide you a good deal on a pre-configured laptop. Also, Best Buy provide something on the order of $100 discount for students. Dell also has special website for computers for higher education folks. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> Best, >>> Himanshu >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> http://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hn.nopbc%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40twc.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 21:08:31 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:08:31 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: <4EEEA0A2-7ABD-4D9F-B1C3-C7215D35F16B@twc.com> References: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> <4EEEA0A2-7ABD-4D9F-B1C3-C7215D35F16B@twc.com> Message-ID: I agree. It's a bit pricey, however, if you can afford it, then it's a great choice. I really don't have good credit as of now, since I'm a student, and not working, so if I were looking for a Windows laptop, it would have to be less expensive. I do have a 2015 MacBook Pro with 16 GB of RAM and a 1 TB hard drive. It's a great computer, although in cases where I need Windows, I would like to get another computer, instead of using Bootcamp. Using things like a fingerprint sensor or encryption would be nice, since as students, we're always on the go, and we don't want to risk our information falling in to the wrong hands. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Joseph Hutson via NABS-L wrote: > > Laney, everything looks good. Except possibly the price tag. But I guess if you can afford it, it looks good. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this: >> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS >> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think? >> >> >>> On 3/17/2018 12:11 PM, Himanshu Neema via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Lanie, >>> >>> As a blind user and otherwise as well what makes sense these days is to buy a laptop with only a large SSD in it. I recommend a laptop with at least 1 TB SSD in it instead of regular hard drive. The reason is that a lot of time is spent not only in memory access but also on input-output, even if it is happening behind the scene by the application in temporary directories or even by the operating system at the core. You will see a very large improvement in speed as compared to the one with regular hard drive. For blind users screen readers are also resource hogs so having a laptop with only SSD in it helps a lot. Don’t get the one with hybrid drive either. If it is too expensive, a laptop with 512GB SSD might do it for you. >>> >>> Also, you can always create a partition in the drive and install Linux no matter what the operating system (such as Windows or Mac OS) is installed originally. Another easier alternative is to install open-source software called “Oracle VirtualBox” and you can run any operating system in it such as Ubuntu Linux, Mac, etc. >>> >>> I think Microsoft Surface Books are quite good. Another option is to consider Dell laptops. >>> >>> Lastly, I found in the past that Office Depot might provide you a good deal on a pre-configured laptop. Also, Best Buy provide something on the order of $100 discount for students. Dell also has special website for computers for higher education folks. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> Best, >>> Himanshu >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> http://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hn.nopbc%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40twc.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com From laniemolinar91 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 21:13:37 2018 From: laniemolinar91 at gmail.com (Lanie Molinar) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:13:37 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: References: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> <4EEEA0A2-7ABD-4D9F-B1C3-C7215D35F16B@twc.com> Message-ID: <44cd3d9a-de4e-7bdb-5a05-0f9e3ab5d59d@gmail.com> I used to have poor credit, but I fixed that by paying on my last laptop with Conns, the only company that would approve me. I won't be buying from them again though. The warranty wasn't good even though I paid a lot for it, and I had nothing but problems with the laptop. On 3/17/2018 4:08 PM, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > I agree. It's a bit pricey, however, if you can afford it, then it's a great choice. I really don't have good credit as of now, since I'm a student, and not working, so if I were looking for a Windows laptop, it would have to be less expensive. I do have a 2015 MacBook Pro with 16 GB of RAM and a 1 TB hard drive. It's a great computer, although in cases where I need Windows, I would like to get another computer, instead of using Bootcamp. Using things like a fingerprint sensor or encryption would be nice, since as students, we're always on the go, and we don't want to risk our information falling in to the wrong hands. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Joseph Hutson via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Laney, everything looks good. Except possibly the price tag. But I guess if you can afford it, it looks good. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this: >>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS >>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think? >>> >>> >>>> On 3/17/2018 12:11 PM, Himanshu Neema via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi Lanie, >>>> >>>> As a blind user and otherwise as well what makes sense these days is to buy a laptop with only a large SSD in it. I recommend a laptop with at least 1 TB SSD in it instead of regular hard drive. The reason is that a lot of time is spent not only in memory access but also on input-output, even if it is happening behind the scene by the application in temporary directories or even by the operating system at the core. You will see a very large improvement in speed as compared to the one with regular hard drive. For blind users screen readers are also resource hogs so having a laptop with only SSD in it helps a lot. Don’t get the one with hybrid drive either. If it is too expensive, a laptop with 512GB SSD might do it for you. >>>> >>>> Also, you can always create a partition in the drive and install Linux no matter what the operating system (such as Windows or Mac OS) is installed originally. Another easier alternative is to install open-source software called “Oracle VirtualBox” and you can run any operating system in it such as Ubuntu Linux, Mac, etc. >>>> >>>> I think Microsoft Surface Books are quite good. Another option is to consider Dell laptops. >>>> >>>> Lastly, I found in the past that Office Depot might provide you a good deal on a pre-configured laptop. Also, Best Buy provide something on the order of $100 discount for students. Dell also has special website for computers for higher education folks. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> Best, >>>> Himanshu >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>>> http://www.avg.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hn.nopbc%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40twc.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 21:16:44 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:16:44 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Choosing a Laptop In-Reply-To: <44cd3d9a-de4e-7bdb-5a05-0f9e3ab5d59d@gmail.com> References: <0BBABA8D-C9C6-4A60-8F31-312077EEA2CB@gmail.com> <4EEEA0A2-7ABD-4D9F-B1C3-C7215D35F16B@twc.com> <44cd3d9a-de4e-7bdb-5a05-0f9e3ab5d59d@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28175B00-CFEA-4D54-A88A-586F821F02B6@gmail.com> I signed up for one of those credit cards Wells Fargo offers to students, and I do have a rewards card. I apparently have fair credit, so maybe someone will offer me a good payment plan as well. Hopefully you'll be able to get a good laptop eventually. My main reason for switching to a Mac was the fact that the PCs I used before weren't very reliable, but from what I heard, that has changed, depending on the manufacturer. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote: > > I used to have poor credit, but I fixed that by paying on my last laptop with Conns, the only company that would approve me. I won't be buying from them again though. The warranty wasn't good even though I paid a lot for it, and I had nothing but problems with the laptop. > > >> On 3/17/2018 4:08 PM, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >> I agree. It's a bit pricey, however, if you can afford it, then it's a great choice. I really don't have good credit as of now, since I'm a student, and not working, so if I were looking for a Windows laptop, it would have to be less expensive. I do have a 2015 MacBook Pro with 16 GB of RAM and a 1 TB hard drive. It's a great computer, although in cases where I need Windows, I would like to get another computer, instead of using Bootcamp. Using things like a fingerprint sensor or encryption would be nice, since as students, we're always on the go, and we don't want to risk our information falling in to the wrong hands. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Joseph Hutson via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Laney, everything looks good. Except possibly the price tag. But I guess if you can afford it, it looks good. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this: >>>> https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X380-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS >>>> I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under $100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about $84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think? >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 3/17/2018 12:11 PM, Himanshu Neema via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Hi Lanie, >>>>> >>>>> As a blind user and otherwise as well what makes sense these days is to buy a laptop with only a large SSD in it. I recommend a laptop with at least 1 TB SSD in it instead of regular hard drive. The reason is that a lot of time is spent not only in memory access but also on input-output, even if it is happening behind the scene by the application in temporary directories or even by the operating system at the core. You will see a very large improvement in speed as compared to the one with regular hard drive. For blind users screen readers are also resource hogs so having a laptop with only SSD in it helps a lot. Don’t get the one with hybrid drive either. If it is too expensive, a laptop with 512GB SSD might do it for you. >>>>> >>>>> Also, you can always create a partition in the drive and install Linux no matter what the operating system (such as Windows or Mac OS) is installed originally. Another easier alternative is to install open-source software called “Oracle VirtualBox” and you can run any operating system in it such as Ubuntu Linux, Mac, etc. >>>>> >>>>> I think Microsoft Surface Books are quite good. Another option is to consider Dell laptops. >>>>> >>>>> Lastly, I found in the past that Office Depot might provide you a good deal on a pre-configured laptop. Also, Best Buy provide something on the order of $100 discount for students. Dell also has special website for computers for higher education folks. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Himanshu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Lanie Molinar via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be working with code and developing things. I also have several disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if that seems better. I would also be happy with something running Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM. There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those on software development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>>>> http://www.avg.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hn.nopbc%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhud7789%40twc.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/laniemolinar91%40gmail.com > > From ljmaher03 at outlook.com Sat Mar 17 23:30:29 2018 From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 23:30:29 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found that the Hadley School can help by providing you language courses. At least, they can teach a person the Braille alphabet in the language of interest. The Hadley web site is: "https://www.hadley.edu/". Regards Louis Maher Phone: 713-444-7838 E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Milan Novakovic via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Milan Novakovic Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College Hi, I have experience in Spanish to the 203 level. Sincerely, Milan Novakovic Department of Political Science University of North Carolina at Greensboro Email: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author Unknown > On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:02, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Students, > An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so that I may connect you with the student in need. > Thank you. > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne > t.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab9 > 9362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 > %7C636569011832188987&sdata=rodwqJUZqyiG0l626c0drNe205mSpBHTOQIQQHrpt6 > M%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for NABS-L: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne > t.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fmilannovakovic99%2540g > mail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=69OLICe8e8 > 47AagnyfJjEVVJ7MSCCo1y42NDGLY9upw%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=rodwqJUZqyiG0l626c0drNe205mSpBHTOQIQQHrpt6M%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=LeandAkYygLvXdV2%2BwGsaFjfYeRjB1%2B5hSvDjqGGNw8%3D&reserved=0 From cjmullin225 at aol.com Mon Mar 19 02:23:08 2018 From: cjmullin225 at aol.com (cjmullin225 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:23:08 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Rainshine Canes Still in Existence Message-ID: <000001d3bf29$3c4a6830$b4df3890$@aol.com> Hi everyone, Recently, I was thrilled to find out that the Wisconsin Council for the Blind has continued to make the old Rainshine canes, the durable, solid fiberglass predecessor to the NFB cane, and the Adaptations store in San Francisco sells them in a number of lengths. They cost $25. Tips are also available, but I'm unsure of the price. Keep in mind that these canes are also much heavier than the NFB cane, but they are a solid option, particularly for more outdoorsy activities. The number for Adaptations is 415-694-7301. I hope y'all find this helpful. Connor From martinezana770 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 02:36:45 2018 From: martinezana770 at gmail.com (Ana Martinez) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 21:36:45 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college Message-ID: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra in the computer. thanks! Sent from my iPhone From keribcu at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 02:39:53 2018 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:39:53 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> References: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35390f88-ba2f-518e-ffb5-00abb4b9ee06@gmail.com> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math is a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you fight for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study and braille be provided. On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra in the computer. > thanks! > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From kassandrac at utexas.edu Mon Mar 19 03:16:53 2018 From: kassandrac at utexas.edu (Kassandra Cardenas) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:16:53 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: <35390f88-ba2f-518e-ffb5-00abb4b9ee06@gmail.com> References: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> <35390f88-ba2f-518e-ffb5-00abb4b9ee06@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I was actually in this same situation a few years back--face-to-face lectures, online work. I personally didn't use any braille while taking the course, and I ended up getting an A. This obviously would have probably been a different case if it was geometry or trig, for example, but as there weren't many visual aspects to the course, I was fine. Where I did have an issue, however, was when it came to entering my answers into the application. The program I had was good about providing image descriptions, but if you had to enter answers in things other than whole numbers or multiple-answer choice, it was inaccessible. I ended up working with a grad student so they could do this for me; I'd solve the answers beforehand, write them down, and then meet with them so they could then just plug them in. Communicate with your professor, though. If something is inaccessible, don't try and wait a few weeks in hopes that you can figure it out; say something right away. Even if they can't do anything about it themselves and you have to go through the SSD or the developers of the program, at least they know that there is an issue. Make sure that you go to their office hours if there are concepts you don't understand. If using braille to complete your math is better for you, than by all means, try and obtain that accommodation. It is definitely doable without though, so if you won't be accommodated in that way, don't panic. Also, please feel free to email me separately, if you need to at any point--as someone who has gone through this exact situation. It is doable, but it did get a bit stressful for me at times. with warmth, -K Cardenas On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L wrote: > You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math is > a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you fight > for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study and > braille be provided. > > > > On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > >> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. I >> don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >> thanks! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com >> > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kassandr > ac%40utexas.edu > From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 03:35:57 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:35:57 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> References: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2DA865F2-EFA8-40AB-B899-2F86744CD846@gmail.com> Hi, I think it also has to do with what works for you in terms of ease of use, not just accessibility. For instance, hearing a bunch of math equations using speech only wouldn't be the easiest thing for me, especially with complex math. I like to be able to easily get to all parts of an equation, and that's unfortunately not possible with speech, since you have to navigate line by line, word by word, character by character, etc. Maybe it will work with a braille display? I've been fortunate enough to have my math assignments in braille, because some online systems don't seem to work well with screen readers. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > > hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra in the computer. > thanks! > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 03:59:52 2018 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:59:52 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> References: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ana, I took math last year. I never had the online experience, but I do have some knowledge of using Braille only some of the time. My Disability Services ordered the math textbook before the course started: I'm not sure how far ahead of time. However, I would have the Disability Services read me the tests, as there was no transcriber and I do not like math in electronic format. So if you prefer Braille as I do, maybe you could try to see if they can order the textbook ahead of time, even if they don't have good transcribing facilities. Vejas Vasiliauskas Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students Phone: 3102653949 Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com > On Mar 18, 2018, at 19:36, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > > hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra in the computer. > thanks! > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 05:35:41 2018 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:35:41 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern Message-ID: Dear Students, Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both of whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing their tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. These soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job interview or a career related conference. The call in number is ‭(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. Have a wonderful week! Syed Rizvi 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com 4132503523 “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller From a.vias at outlook.com Mon Mar 19 11:25:00 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:25:00 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. Hope that I can be there. -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder | Blindness Awareness and More Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:36 AM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear Students, > Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both of whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing their tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. These soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job interview or a career related conference. > The call in number is ‭(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. > Have a wonderful week! > > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=VkhS8eMbUcoo15YNXtpHb6nQGm0VEayG5WK849pQdhM%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=leHRSs9KDVh6UAStrRlpIMr%2FN0PgIKd%2FJ47baFxnAG0%3D&reserved=0 From cjmullin225 at aol.com Mon Mar 19 12:24:52 2018 From: cjmullin225 at aol.com (Connor Mullin) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 08:24:52 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> References: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002801d3bf7d$48af46a0$da0dd3e0$@aol.com> Hi Ana, I agree with everyone that creating a strong relationship with the professor as soon as possible and maintaining that throughout the semester is key. Doing that might, for example, make it easier for you to work out an arrangement to, at the very least, read the math problems online and write your answers on braille paper or in electronic braille. If you are using a braille notetaker or display that does not support Nemeth, as I did during undergrad, you could work out an understanding with them where you type out most of the math symbols you cannot type in or sub in another symbol. This should work out pretty well in an algebra course. I wish you the best of luck with this! Connor -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ana Martinez via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 10:37 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Ana Martinez Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra in the computer. thanks! Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cjmullin225%40aol.com From codybeardslee at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:44:29 2018 From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:44:29 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Discussion Call Message-ID: <1DE8F757-D21E-49AD-9872-A74E03946166@gmail.com> Hey students! The Minnesota Association of Blind Students would like to welcome everyone to our discussion call on Sunday March 25th at 8pm central. We will be talking about how to be more proactive as a student including time management, balancing your schedule, and how to distress after a long day. We can’t wait to hear your thoughts and ideas! To join, simply call the following number: 641-715-3276, and enter the following access code: 6326673 If you have any questions feel free to email us at students at nfbmn.org or contact our President Cody Beardslee at 763-291-3711. Sincerely, The MNABS Board From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:59:37 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 08:59:37 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college Message-ID: <5aafb43b.0f13ca0a.70226.dce6@mx.google.com> Hi Ana thanks for your message. I agree that you need braille to complete your coursework in math. While I was in college, I took two economics classes as a substitution for a regular college math course. I would suggest that you email the professor ahead of time and ask for the name of the textbook before the semester begins. On Mar 18, 2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > > hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra in the computer. > thanks! > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From martinezana770 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 15:21:05 2018 From: martinezana770 at gmail.com (Ana Martinez) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:21:05 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college Message-ID: thanks all for your suggestions! On 3/19/18, nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org wrote: > Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Rainshine Canes Still in Existence (cjmullin225 at aol.com) > 2. taking an online math course in college (Ana Martinez) > 3. Re: taking an online math course in college (Keri Svendsen) > 4. Re: taking an online math course in college (Kassandra Cardenas) > 5. Re: taking an online math course in college (Santiago) > 6. Re: taking an online math course in college (Vejas Vasiliauskas) > 7. Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern (Syed Rizvi) > 8. Re: Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern (Armando Vias) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:23:08 -0400 > From: cjmullin225 at aol.com > To: > Subject: [NABS-L] Rainshine Canes Still in Existence > Message-ID: <000001d3bf29$3c4a6830$b4df3890$@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi everyone, > > > > Recently, I was thrilled to find out that the Wisconsin Council for the > Blind has continued to make the old Rainshine canes, the durable, solid > fiberglass predecessor to the NFB cane, and the Adaptations store in San > Francisco sells them in a number of lengths. They cost $25. Tips are also > available, but I'm unsure of the price. Keep in mind that these canes are > also much heavier than the NFB cane, but they are a solid option, > particularly for more outdoorsy activities. > > The number for Adaptations is 415-694-7301. I hope y'all find this helpful. > > > > Connor > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 21:36:45 -0500 > From: Ana Martinez > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college > Message-ID: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra > course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything > online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are > online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't > have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn > better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille > is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course > format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some > of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra > in the computer. > thanks! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:39:53 -0400 > From: Keri Svendsen > To: Ana Martinez via NABS-L > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college > Message-ID: <35390f88-ba2f-518e-ffb5-00abb4b9ee06 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math > is a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you > fight for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study > and braille be provided. > > > > On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: >> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >> thanks! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:16:53 -0500 > From: Kassandra Cardenas > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello, > > I was actually in this same situation a few years back--face-to-face > lectures, online work. I personally didn't use any braille while taking the > course, and I ended up getting an A. This obviously would have probably > been a different case if it was geometry or trig, for example, but as there > weren't many visual aspects to the course, I was fine. > > Where I did have an issue, however, was when it came to entering my answers > into the application. The program I had was good about providing image > descriptions, but if you had to enter answers in things other than whole > numbers or multiple-answer choice, it was inaccessible. I ended up working > with a grad student so they could do this for me; I'd solve the answers > beforehand, write them down, and then meet with them so they could then > just plug them in. > > Communicate with your professor, though. If something is inaccessible, > don't try and wait a few weeks in hopes that you can figure it out; say > something right away. Even if they can't do anything about it themselves > and you have to go through the SSD or the developers of the program, at > least they know that there is an issue. Make sure that you go to their > office hours if there are concepts you don't understand. If using braille > to complete your math is better for you, than by all means, try and obtain > that accommodation. It is definitely doable without though, so if you won't > be accommodated in that way, don't panic. > > Also, please feel free to email me separately, if you need to at any > point--as someone who has gone through this exact situation. It is doable, > but it did get a bit stressful for me at times. > > with warmth, > -K Cardenas > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L > > wrote: > >> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math >> is >> a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you fight >> for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study and >> braille be provided. >> >> >> >> On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: >> >>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course >>> will >>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>> I >>> don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>> thanks! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com >>> >> >> -- >> Keri Svendsen >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kassandr >> ac%40utexas.edu >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:35:57 -0700 > From: Santiago > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Ana Martinez > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college > Message-ID: <2DA865F2-EFA8-40AB-B899-2F86744CD846 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi, > I think it also has to do with what works for you in terms of ease of use, > not just accessibility. For instance, hearing a bunch of math equations > using speech only wouldn't be the easiest thing for me, especially with > complex math. I like to be able to easily get to all parts of an equation, > and that's unfortunately not possible with speech, since you have to > navigate line by line, word by word, character by character, etc. Maybe it > will work with a braille display? I've been fortunate enough to have my math > assignments in braille, because some online systems don't seem to work well > with screen readers. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 18, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >> thanks! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:59:52 -0700 > From: Vejas Vasiliauskas > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Ana, > I took math last year. I never had the online experience, but I do have some > knowledge of using Braille only some of the time. > My Disability Services ordered the math textbook before the course started: > I'm not sure how far ahead of time. However, I would have the Disability > Services read me the tests, as there was no transcriber and I do not like > math in electronic format. > So if you prefer Braille as I do, maybe you could try to see if they can > order the textbook ahead of time, even if they don't have good transcribing > facilities. > > > Vejas Vasiliauskas > Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students > Phone: 3102653949 > Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com > >> On Mar 18, 2018, at 19:36, Ana Martinez via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >> thanks! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:35:41 -0500 > From: Syed Rizvi > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Dear Students, > Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership > call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both of > whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing their > tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. These > soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job interview or a > career related conference. > The call in number is ?(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. > Have a wonderful week! > > > Syed Rizvi > 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > 4132503523 > ?Tough times don't last, tough people do.?-Robert Schuller > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:25:00 +0000 > From: Armando Vias > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks. Hope that I can be there. > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: > blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:36 AM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Dear Students, >> Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership >> call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both >> of whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing >> their tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. >> These soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job >> interview or a career related conference. >> The call in number is ?(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. >> Have a wonderful week! >> >> >> Syed Rizvi >> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >> 4132503523 >> ?Tough times don't last, tough people do.?-Robert Schuller >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=VkhS8eMbUcoo15YNXtpHb6nQGm0VEayG5WK849pQdhM%3D&reserved=0 >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=leHRSs9KDVh6UAStrRlpIMr%2FN0PgIKd%2FJ47baFxnAG0%3D&reserved=0 > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 137, Issue 18 > *************************************** > From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 15:30:50 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 08:30:50 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? Message-ID: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> Hi everyone, I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to communicating with fellow NABS members. Santiago Sent from my iPhone From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 15:55:31 2018 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:55:31 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> Message-ID: That's a good idea. On 3/19/18, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether anyone > would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, and felt > like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to communicating > with fellow NABS members. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 16:07:18 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 09:07:18 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6E7DFC15-B173-423D-9DC7-FFC67F1F5804@gmail.com> I'd be up to creating one if a group doesn't exist at the moment. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:55 AM, Alexandra Alfonso wrote: > > That's a good idea. > >> On 3/19/18, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether anyone >> would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, and felt >> like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to communicating >> with fellow NABS members. >> >> Santiago >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >> From jamison.christopher3 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:10:39 2018 From: jamison.christopher3 at gmail.com (jamison) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:10:39 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d3bfa5$35d16220$a1742660$@gmail.com> I will be in Hawaii for a school trip with the band, but I hope I can make it. Respectfully, Jamison -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via NABS-L Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 12:36 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Syed Rizvi Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern Dear Students, Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both of whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing their tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. These soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job interview or a career related conference. The call in number is ‭(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. Have a wonderful week! Syed Rizvi 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com 4132503523 “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jamison.christopher3%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:12:17 2018 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:12:17 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <6E7DFC15-B173-423D-9DC7-FFC67F1F5804@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <6E7DFC15-B173-423D-9DC7-FFC67F1F5804@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't think there is one. On 3/19/18, Santiago wrote: > I'd be up to creating one if a group doesn't exist at the moment. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:55 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >> wrote: >> >> That's a good idea. >> >>> On 3/19/18, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>> anyone >>> would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, and felt >>> like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>> communicating >>> with fellow NABS members. >>> >>> Santiago >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >>> > From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:27:42 2018 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:27:42 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> Hi, Hi, There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the group by accepting the friend request. Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have Facebook friends who already are on it. Vejas Vasiliauskas Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students Phone: 3102653949 Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com > On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to communicating with fellow NABS members. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From matthewhgip at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:32:55 2018 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:32:55 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] CABS Call Tonight Message-ID: Dear students, Join us tonight at 8 pm as the California Association of Blind Students will have our monthly board meeting. We will be discussing our first ever spring reception in beautiful Los Angeles. Come join us to find out more! We will be switching to the NABS line for now. Call 712-770-5197, followed by access code 265669 P.S Thank you to our good friends from the NABS board for allowing us to use their line until our own line gets fixed. Best regards, Matthew Gip President, California Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California Phone: (559) 375-2068 Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com Live The Life You Want! From matthewhgip at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:39:33 2018 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:39:33 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named Nabs Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from the profile after national convention. Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/Nabspage/ Best, Matthew Gip President, California Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California Phone: (559) 375-2068 Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com Live The Life You Want! > On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Hi, > There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the group by accepting the friend request. > Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have Facebook friends who already are on it. > Vejas Vasiliauskas > Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students > Phone: 3102653949 > Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to communicating with fellow NABS members. >> >> Santiago >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:43:39 2018 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:43:39 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like facebook groups where we could discuss things. On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: > NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named Nabs > Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep > up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from the > profile after national convention. > > Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/Nabspage/ > > > Best, > Matthew Gip > President, California Association of Blind Students > A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California > Phone: (559) 375-2068 > Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com > Live The Life You Want! > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Hi, >> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the group >> by accepting the friend request. >> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >> Facebook friends who already are on it. >> Vejas Vasiliauskas >> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >> Phone: 3102653949 >> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>> >>> Santiago >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com > From annajee82 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:04:14 2018 From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:04:14 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16B538AE-647F-4E51-B6B3-5DCD271BC08F@gmail.com> Ana, There's a lot of good suggestions already! I just want to say that a lot of blind people do math online with speech. It is doable. For some it is harder to do that way unless you teach yourself to get used to it though. It sounds like you already know what works best for you and since you are not planning to take a ton more math classes you may be best to stick to what works for you already. No need to learn a whole new way of doing things for just one or two classes, in my opinion. Don't be discouraged. Braille is always an option. It is the school's duty to provide you materials in ways you can best access them. If you say it is braille. Then they'll have to work that out. I would recommend asking the professor for online access before the class begins. You can usually do free trials or some kind of trial access if your professor asks the company for it for accommodation reasons. If you ask the professor to do this and they say they can't or don't know how reach out to us or maybe your DSS office, because it IS doable. That way you can see how the accessibility is. This would be vital for me as I am not willing to deal with potential inaccessibility issues as a new class is starting. And from there you can decide what you want in braille and how you want things done. If the professor is good you may want to explore just going in to their office hours or making appointments with them every week for them to go into the online system and tell you the problems to work out and then you can write them down and work them out with the professor there to help and then enter the answers for you. This gives you help and access to interaction in the problem solving process that you will be missing with an inaccessible interactive online system that print readers have online; and it makes it easier for the professor because they don't have to do extra work in giving you seperate assignments or looking at your answers or grading your stuff seperately, because it will all be coming from and going into the online system. Let me know if this makes sense and if there's anything else I or we can help with! ❤️❤️❤️ Anna > On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: > > thanks all for your suggestions! > >> On 3/19/18, nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Rainshine Canes Still in Existence (cjmullin225 at aol.com) >> 2. taking an online math course in college (Ana Martinez) >> 3. Re: taking an online math course in college (Keri Svendsen) >> 4. Re: taking an online math course in college (Kassandra Cardenas) >> 5. Re: taking an online math course in college (Santiago) >> 6. Re: taking an online math course in college (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >> 7. Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern (Syed Rizvi) >> 8. Re: Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern (Armando Vias) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:23:08 -0400 >> From: cjmullin225 at aol.com >> To: >> Subject: [NABS-L] Rainshine Canes Still in Existence >> Message-ID: <000001d3bf29$3c4a6830$b4df3890$@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> Recently, I was thrilled to find out that the Wisconsin Council for the >> Blind has continued to make the old Rainshine canes, the durable, solid >> fiberglass predecessor to the NFB cane, and the Adaptations store in San >> Francisco sells them in a number of lengths. They cost $25. Tips are also >> available, but I'm unsure of the price. Keep in mind that these canes are >> also much heavier than the NFB cane, but they are a solid option, >> particularly for more outdoorsy activities. >> >> The number for Adaptations is 415-694-7301. I hope y'all find this helpful. >> >> >> >> Connor >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 21:36:45 -0500 >> From: Ana Martinez >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >> Message-ID: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra >> course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything >> online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are >> online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't >> have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn >> better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille >> is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course >> format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some >> of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra >> in the computer. >> thanks! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:39:53 -0400 >> From: Keri Svendsen >> To: Ana Martinez via NABS-L >> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >> Message-ID: <35390f88-ba2f-518e-ffb5-00abb4b9ee06 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math >> is a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you >> fight for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study >> and braille be provided. >> >> >> >>> On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: >>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>> thanks! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com >> >> -- >> Keri Svendsen >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:16:53 -0500 >> From: Kassandra Cardenas >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hello, >> >> I was actually in this same situation a few years back--face-to-face >> lectures, online work. I personally didn't use any braille while taking the >> course, and I ended up getting an A. This obviously would have probably >> been a different case if it was geometry or trig, for example, but as there >> weren't many visual aspects to the course, I was fine. >> >> Where I did have an issue, however, was when it came to entering my answers >> into the application. The program I had was good about providing image >> descriptions, but if you had to enter answers in things other than whole >> numbers or multiple-answer choice, it was inaccessible. I ended up working >> with a grad student so they could do this for me; I'd solve the answers >> beforehand, write them down, and then meet with them so they could then >> just plug them in. >> >> Communicate with your professor, though. If something is inaccessible, >> don't try and wait a few weeks in hopes that you can figure it out; say >> something right away. Even if they can't do anything about it themselves >> and you have to go through the SSD or the developers of the program, at >> least they know that there is an issue. Make sure that you go to their >> office hours if there are concepts you don't understand. If using braille >> to complete your math is better for you, than by all means, try and obtain >> that accommodation. It is definitely doable without though, so if you won't >> be accommodated in that way, don't panic. >> >> Also, please feel free to email me separately, if you need to at any >> point--as someone who has gone through this exact situation. It is doable, >> but it did get a bit stressful for me at times. >> >> with warmth, >> -K Cardenas >> >> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L >> >> wrote: >> >>> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math >>> is >>> a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you fight >>> for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study and >>> braille be provided. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course >>>> will >>>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>>> I >>>> don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> Keri Svendsen >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kassandr >>> ac%40utexas.edu >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:35:57 -0700 >> From: Santiago >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Cc: Ana Martinez >> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >> Message-ID: <2DA865F2-EFA8-40AB-B899-2F86744CD846 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Hi, >> I think it also has to do with what works for you in terms of ease of use, >> not just accessibility. For instance, hearing a bunch of math equations >> using speech only wouldn't be the easiest thing for me, especially with >> complex math. I like to be able to easily get to all parts of an equation, >> and that's unfortunately not possible with speech, since you have to >> navigate line by line, word by word, character by character, etc. Maybe it >> will work with a braille display? I've been fortunate enough to have my math >> assignments in braille, because some online systems don't seem to work well >> with screen readers. >> >> Santiago >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>> thanks! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:59:52 -0700 >> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Hi Ana, >> I took math last year. I never had the online experience, but I do have some >> knowledge of using Braille only some of the time. >> My Disability Services ordered the math textbook before the course started: >> I'm not sure how far ahead of time. However, I would have the Disability >> Services read me the tests, as there was no transcriber and I do not like >> math in electronic format. >> So if you prefer Braille as I do, maybe you could try to see if they can >> order the textbook ahead of time, even if they don't have good transcribing >> facilities. >> >> >> Vejas Vasiliauskas >> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >> Phone: 3102653949 >> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >> >>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 19:36, Ana Martinez via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>> thanks! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:35:41 -0500 >> From: Syed Rizvi >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Dear Students, >> Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership >> call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both of >> whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing their >> tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. These >> soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job interview or a >> career related conference. >> The call in number is ?(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. >> Have a wonderful week! >> >> >> Syed Rizvi >> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >> 4132503523 >> ?Tough times don't last, tough people do.?-Robert Schuller >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:25:00 +0000 >> From: Armando Vias >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> >> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Thanks. Hope that I can be there. >> >> -- >> Armando L. Vias >> Student >> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog >> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 >> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: >> blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:36 AM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Students, >>> Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership >>> call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both >>> of whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing >>> their tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. >>> These soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job >>> interview or a career related conference. >>> The call in number is ?(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. >>> Have a wonderful week! >>> >>> >>> Syed Rizvi >>> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >>> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >>> 4132503523 >>> ?Tough times don't last, tough people do.?-Robert Schuller >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=VkhS8eMbUcoo15YNXtpHb6nQGm0VEayG5WK849pQdhM%3D&reserved=0 >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=leHRSs9KDVh6UAStrRlpIMr%2FN0PgIKd%2FJ47baFxnAG0%3D&reserved=0 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 137, Issue 18 >> *************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com From matthewhgip at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:16:44 2018 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:16:44 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. Matthew Gip President, California Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California Phone: (559) 375-2068 Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com Live The Life You Want! > On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso wrote: > > Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like > facebook groups where we could discuss things. > >> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named Nabs >> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from the >> profile after national convention. >> >> Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/Nabspage/ >> >> >> Best, >> Matthew Gip >> President, California Association of Blind Students >> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >> Live The Life You Want! >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the group >>> by accepting the friend request. >>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>> Phone: 3102653949 >>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>> >>>> Santiago >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >> From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:29:12 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:29:12 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: <16B538AE-647F-4E51-B6B3-5DCD271BC08F@gmail.com> References: <16B538AE-647F-4E51-B6B3-5DCD271BC08F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Anna, Those are some great suggestions! It will be even more important for Ana, and other students in this situation to make sure if the system is going to be accessible, if they also have to use it to take exams. Some classes do require students to take exams online now. Probably because it makes things easier for professors, and because students can receive information about their grades on exams much faster. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Anna Givens via NABS-L wrote: > > Ana, > > There's a lot of good suggestions already! I just want to say that a lot of blind people do math online with speech. It is doable. For some it is harder to do that way unless you teach yourself to get used to it though. > It sounds like you already know what works best for you and since you are not planning to take a ton more math classes you may be best to stick to what works for you already. No need to learn a whole new way of doing things for just one or two classes, in my opinion. Don't be discouraged. Braille is always an option. It is the school's duty to provide you materials in ways you can best access them. If you say it is braille. Then they'll have to work that out. > I would recommend asking the professor for online access before the class begins. You can usually do free trials or some kind of trial access if your professor asks the company for it for accommodation reasons. If you ask the professor to do this and they say they can't or don't know how reach out to us or maybe your DSS office, because it IS doable. That way you can see how the accessibility is. This would be vital for me as I am not willing to deal with potential inaccessibility issues as a new class is starting. > And from there you can decide what you want in braille and how you want things done. If the professor is good you may want to explore just going in to their office hours or making appointments with them every week for them to go into the online system and tell you the problems to work out and then you can write them down and work them out with the professor there to help and then enter the answers for you. This gives you help and access to interaction in the problem solving process that you will be missing with an inaccessible interactive online system that print readers have online; and it makes it easier for the professor because they don't have to do extra work in giving you seperate assignments or looking at your answers or grading your stuff seperately, because it will all be coming from and going into the online system. > Let me know if this makes sense and if there's anything else I or we can help with! > > ❤️❤️❤️ > Anna > > > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: >> >> thanks all for your suggestions! >> >>> On 3/19/18, nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >>> Send NABS-L mailing list submissions to >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nabs-l-owner at nfbnet.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of NABS-L digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Rainshine Canes Still in Existence (cjmullin225 at aol.com) >>> 2. taking an online math course in college (Ana Martinez) >>> 3. Re: taking an online math course in college (Keri Svendsen) >>> 4. Re: taking an online math course in college (Kassandra Cardenas) >>> 5. Re: taking an online math course in college (Santiago) >>> 6. Re: taking an online math course in college (Vejas Vasiliauskas) >>> 7. Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern (Syed Rizvi) >>> 8. Re: Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern (Armando Vias) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:23:08 -0400 >>> From: cjmullin225 at aol.com >>> To: >>> Subject: [NABS-L] Rainshine Canes Still in Existence >>> Message-ID: <000001d3bf29$3c4a6830$b4df3890$@aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> Recently, I was thrilled to find out that the Wisconsin Council for the >>> Blind has continued to make the old Rainshine canes, the durable, solid >>> fiberglass predecessor to the NFB cane, and the Adaptations store in San >>> Francisco sells them in a number of lengths. They cost $25. Tips are also >>> available, but I'm unsure of the price. Keep in mind that these canes are >>> also much heavier than the NFB cane, but they are a solid option, >>> particularly for more outdoorsy activities. >>> >>> The number for Adaptations is 415-694-7301. I hope y'all find this helpful. >>> >>> >>> >>> Connor >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 21:36:45 -0500 >>> From: Ana Martinez >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >>> Message-ID: <357D3DB6-91F7-453E-A99D-6645CDE2C3B7 at gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra >>> course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything >>> online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are >>> online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't >>> have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn >>> better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille >>> is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course >>> format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some >>> of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra >>> in the computer. >>> thanks! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:39:53 -0400 >>> From: Keri Svendsen >>> To: Ana Martinez via NABS-L >>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >>> Message-ID: <35390f88-ba2f-518e-ffb5-00abb4b9ee06 at gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math >>> is a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you >>> fight for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study >>> and braille be provided. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: >>>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >>>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> Keri Svendsen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:16:53 -0500 >>> From: Kassandra Cardenas >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I was actually in this same situation a few years back--face-to-face >>> lectures, online work. I personally didn't use any braille while taking the >>> course, and I ended up getting an A. This obviously would have probably >>> been a different case if it was geometry or trig, for example, but as there >>> weren't many visual aspects to the course, I was fine. >>> >>> Where I did have an issue, however, was when it came to entering my answers >>> into the application. The program I had was good about providing image >>> descriptions, but if you had to enter answers in things other than whole >>> numbers or multiple-answer choice, it was inaccessible. I ended up working >>> with a grad student so they could do this for me; I'd solve the answers >>> beforehand, write them down, and then meet with them so they could then >>> just plug them in. >>> >>> Communicate with your professor, though. If something is inaccessible, >>> don't try and wait a few weeks in hopes that you can figure it out; say >>> something right away. Even if they can't do anything about it themselves >>> and you have to go through the SSD or the developers of the program, at >>> least they know that there is an issue. Make sure that you go to their >>> office hours if there are concepts you don't understand. If using braille >>> to complete your math is better for you, than by all means, try and obtain >>> that accommodation. It is definitely doable without though, so if you won't >>> be accommodated in that way, don't panic. >>> >>> Also, please feel free to email me separately, if you need to at any >>> point--as someone who has gone through this exact situation. It is doable, >>> but it did get a bit stressful for me at times. >>> >>> with warmth, >>> -K Cardenas >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math >>>> is >>>> a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you fight >>>> for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study and >>>> braille be provided. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>>>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>>>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>>>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course >>>>> will >>>>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>>>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>>>> I >>>>> don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>>>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>>>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>>>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>>>> thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Keri Svendsen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kassandr >>>> ac%40utexas.edu >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:35:57 -0700 >>> From: Santiago >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Cc: Ana Martinez >>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >>> Message-ID: <2DA865F2-EFA8-40AB-B899-2F86744CD846 at gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi, >>> I think it also has to do with what works for you in terms of ease of use, >>> not just accessibility. For instance, hearing a bunch of math equations >>> using speech only wouldn't be the easiest thing for me, especially with >>> complex math. I like to be able to easily get to all parts of an equation, >>> and that's unfortunately not possible with speech, since you have to >>> navigate line by line, word by word, character by character, etc. Maybe it >>> will work with a braille display? I've been fortunate enough to have my math >>> assignments in braille, because some online systems don't seem to work well >>> with screen readers. >>> >>> Santiago >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >>>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:59:52 -0700 >>> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi Ana, >>> I took math last year. I never had the online experience, but I do have some >>> knowledge of using Braille only some of the time. >>> My Disability Services ordered the math textbook before the course started: >>> I'm not sure how far ahead of time. However, I would have the Disability >>> Services read me the tests, as there was no transcriber and I do not like >>> math in electronic format. >>> So if you prefer Braille as I do, maybe you could try to see if they can >>> order the textbook ahead of time, even if they don't have good transcribing >>> facilities. >>> >>> >>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>> Phone: 3102653949 >>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>> >>>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 19:36, Ana Martinez via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >>>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >>>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >>>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >>>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >>>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >>>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >>>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >>>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >>>> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:35:41 -0500 >>> From: Syed Rizvi >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Dear Students, >>> Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership >>> call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both of >>> whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing their >>> tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. These >>> soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job interview or a >>> career related conference. >>> The call in number is ?(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. >>> Have a wonderful week! >>> >>> >>> Syed Rizvi >>> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >>> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >>> 4132503523 >>> ?Tough times don't last, tough people do.?-Robert Schuller >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:25:00 +0000 >>> From: Armando Vias >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Thanks. Hope that I can be there. >>> >>> -- >>> Armando L. Vias >>> Student >>> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >>> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog >>> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 >>> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: >>> blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:36 AM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Students, >>>> Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership >>>> call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both >>>> of whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing >>>> their tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student. >>>> These soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job >>>> interview or a career related conference. >>>> The call in number is ?(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669. >>>> Have a wonderful week! >>>> >>>> >>>> Syed Rizvi >>>> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >>>> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >>>> 4132503523 >>>> ?Tough times don't last, tough people do.?-Robert Schuller >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=VkhS8eMbUcoo15YNXtpHb6nQGm0VEayG5WK849pQdhM%3D&reserved=0 >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14347a8b6e0943258b6e08d58d5b6a19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570346112551880&sdata=leHRSs9KDVh6UAStrRlpIMr%2FN0PgIKd%2FJ47baFxnAG0%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of NABS-L Digest, Vol 137, Issue 18 >>> *************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com From alliefa1999 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:33:53 2018 From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:33:53 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> Message-ID: You should do it. On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: > That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. > > Matthew Gip > President, California Association of Blind Students > A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California > Phone: (559) 375-2068 > Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com > Live The Life You Want! > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >> wrote: >> >> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >> >>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>> Nabs >>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>> the >>> profile after national convention. >>> >>> Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/Nabspage/ >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> Matthew Gip >>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>> Live The Life You Want! >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>> group >>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>> >>>>> Santiago >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >>> > From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:39:23 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:39:23 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > > You should do it. > >> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >> >> Matthew Gip >> President, California Association of Blind Students >> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >> Live The Life You Want! >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>> wrote: >>> >>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>> >>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>> Nabs >>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>> the >>>> profile after national convention. >>>> >>>> Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/Nabspage/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Matthew Gip >>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>> group >>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>> >>>>>> Santiago >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:54:21 2018 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:54:21 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University, class of 2021 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > > We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >> >> You should do it. >> >>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>> >>> Matthew Gip >>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>> Live The Life You Want! >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>> >>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>> Nabs >>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>> the >>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>> >>>>> Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/Nabspage/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>> group >>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alliefa1999%40gmail.com >>>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com From a.vias at outlook.com Mon Mar 19 19:10:46 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 19:10:46 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder | Blindness Awareness and More Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. > > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > Stanford University, class of 2021 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >> >> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >> >> Santiago >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> You should do it. >>> >>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>> >>>> Matthew Gip >>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>>> Nabs >>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>>> the >>>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>>> group >>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=3CHT3kbNsX2p0ZUBuC05Yi2JvOWmAzYcwIEfUqdsCt0%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>>> 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https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=OC929idy59K9i9tfSsBI27kJlUg76LN4LSj8PxTjrXk%3D&reserved=0 From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 19:36:30 2018 From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:36:30 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> Message-ID: I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. >> >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >> Stanford University, class of 2021 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >>> >>> Santiago >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> You should do it. >>>> >>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>>>> Nabs >>>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=3CHT3kbNsX2p0ZUBuC05Yi2JvOWmAzYcwIEfUqdsCt0%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>>>> 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https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=OC929idy59K9i9tfSsBI27kJlUg76LN4LSj8PxTjrXk%3D&reserved=0 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/santiago.blue.hernandez%40gmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 19:59:04 2018 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:59:04 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> Message-ID: But don’t jump ahead of yourselves. Get board approval and suggestions first. Best, Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University, Class of 2021 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > > I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? >> >> -- >> Armando L. Vias >> Student >> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog >> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 >> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>> Stanford University, class of 2021 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >>>> >>>> Santiago >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You should do it. >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>>>>> Nabs >>>>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=3CHT3kbNsX2p0ZUBuC05Yi2JvOWmAzYcwIEfUqdsCt0%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>>>>> 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19 20:26:43 2018 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (NABS President) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:26:43 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> Message-ID: <27BC3825-C3B6-4A0C-9244-E3501B0C5DCB@gmail.com> Good afternoon all, I love the enthusiasm and energy behind this idea! Cricket, thank you so much for bringing up an excellent point and including our leadership in the decision making process! NABS is always seeking alternative methods of serving as a resource to our students and providing outlets that ensure our members are building a strong and vast network. After discussing this fabulous idea with the NABS Board, we are excited to launch a Facebook group that will cater to the 21st century, because, you know, emailing is so 2010 😊 Syed, our Outreach Committee Chair, and myself will further discuss the proper approach and logistics of such a group. Thank you for bringing this initiative to our attention; and we certainly look forward to building our organization even further through the world of Facebook! Stay tuned for more info, a link for the group itself, and guidelines for those interested in joining. Love, Kathryn Kathryn Webster President, National Association of Blind Students (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > But don’t jump ahead of yourselves. Get board approval and suggestions first. > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > Stanford University, Class of 2021 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? >>> >>> -- >>> Armando L. Vias >>> Student >>> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >>> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog >>> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 >>> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>>> Stanford University, class of 2021 >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >>>>> >>>>> Santiago >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You should do it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>>>>>> Nabs >>>>>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>>>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>>>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=3CHT3kbNsX2p0ZUBuC05Yi2JvOWmAzYcwIEfUqdsCt0%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>>>>>> 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_______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 20:40:23 2018 From: mausam.mehta00 at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:40:23 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college In-Reply-To: <5aafb43b.0f13ca0a.70226.dce6@mx.google.com> References: <5aafb43b.0f13ca0a.70226.dce6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 3/19/18, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Ana thanks for your message. I agree that you need braille to complete > your coursework in math. While I was in college, I took two economics > classes as a substitution for a regular college math course. I would suggest > that you email the professor ahead of time and ask for the name of the > textbook before the semester begins. > > On Mar 18, 2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L > wrote: >> >> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an >> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does >> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and >> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will >> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester. >> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math. >> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially >> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or >> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online >> math course and doing algebra in the computer. >> thanks! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausam.mehta00%40gmail.com > Hi Ana and all, All of these are great suggestions, as many have said already. I certainly agree that you should do what works for you. If you prefer Braille and think it would make the course easier and more accessible for you, that is definitely a great option. As already stated, you can order your textbooks before the class begins, or have them scanned into Braille. If you have an embosser, you may be able to finagle that somehow. Anna has a great point about math with speech. I have found it to work very well for me. I am taking stats and multi-variable calculus face to face, but all of the assignments are online. I use notepad and ASCII to work problems on my laptop with JAWS. It is not perfect, but it gets the job done in a pretty efficient manner. Of course, it is a learning curve, and if you are not comfortable with it, don't stress yourself out about it. It is always good to have multiple ways of access. Good luck, Mausam From mikgephart at icloud.com Mon Mar 19 21:59:39 2018 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:59:39 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <27BC3825-C3B6-4A0C-9244-E3501B0C5DCB@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> <27BC3825-C3B6-4A0C-9244-E3501B0C5DCB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5EED091E-F6D9-4BBF-A4B9-BD0590156906@icloud.com> Hi Katherine, Santiago, and all, This is a fabulous idea. However, I think we should still keep the email group up and running. I don’t want to inhibit anything NABS does or does not use based on my own preferences. I hope I am not too out of the tech game, but I don’t use Facebook, and I am assuming other students don’t use Facebook either. I think we should start the Facebook group, as that is a great way to reach more people with our positive message, but think everyone should still have the option of emailing. This is just my position on the matter and something to keep in mind. Mikayla > On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:26 PM, NABS President via NABS-L wrote: > > Good afternoon all, > > I love the enthusiasm and energy behind this idea! Cricket, thank you so much for bringing up an excellent point and including our leadership in the decision making process! NABS is always seeking alternative methods of serving as a resource to our students and providing outlets that ensure our members are building a strong and vast network. > > After discussing this fabulous idea with the NABS Board, we are excited to launch a Facebook group that will cater to the 21st century, because, you know, emailing is so 2010 😊 Syed, our Outreach Committee Chair, and myself will further discuss the proper approach and logistics of such a group. Thank you for bringing this initiative to our attention; and we certainly look forward to building our organization even further through the world of Facebook! > > Stay tuned for more info, a link for the group itself, and guidelines for those interested in joining. > > Love, > Kathryn > > > Kathryn Webster > President, National Association of Blind Students > (203) 273-8463 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >> >> But don’t jump ahead of yourselves. Get board approval and suggestions first. >> >> Best, >> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >> Stanford University, Class of 2021 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Armando L. Vias >>>> Student >>>> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >>>> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >>>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog >>>> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 >>>> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>>>> Stanford University, class of 2021 >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >>>>>> >>>>>> Santiago >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You should do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>>>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>>>>>>> Nabs >>>>>>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>>>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>>>>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>>>>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=3CHT3kbNsX2p0ZUBuC05Yi2JvOWmAzYcwIEfUqdsCt0%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>>>>>>> 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In-Reply-To: <5EED091E-F6D9-4BBF-A4B9-BD0590156906@icloud.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> <27BC3825-C3B6-4A0C-9244-E3501B0C5DCB@gmail.com> <5EED091E-F6D9-4BBF-A4B9-BD0590156906@icloud.com> Message-ID: <77348817-F232-47D8-9915-302D49544809@gmail.com> Hi all, I'm sure the email list will continue to exist as a method of communication and announcements, and we will all be able to be a part of it. The Facebook group will further enhance the community aspect of it for those who wish to join it. Santiago Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Katherine, Santiago, and all, > This is a fabulous idea. However, I think we should still keep the email group up and running. I don’t want to inhibit anything NABS does or does not use based on my own preferences. I hope I am not too out of the tech game, but I don’t use Facebook, and I am assuming other students don’t use Facebook either. I think we should start the Facebook group, as that is a great way to reach more people with our positive message, but think everyone should still have the option of emailing. This is just my position on the matter and something to keep in mind. > Mikayla > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:26 PM, NABS President via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Good afternoon all, >> >> I love the enthusiasm and energy behind this idea! Cricket, thank you so much for bringing up an excellent point and including our leadership in the decision making process! NABS is always seeking alternative methods of serving as a resource to our students and providing outlets that ensure our members are building a strong and vast network. >> >> After discussing this fabulous idea with the NABS Board, we are excited to launch a Facebook group that will cater to the 21st century, because, you know, emailing is so 2010 😊 Syed, our Outreach Committee Chair, and myself will further discuss the proper approach and logistics of such a group. Thank you for bringing this initiative to our attention; and we certainly look forward to building our organization even further through the world of Facebook! >> >> Stay tuned for more info, a link for the group itself, and guidelines for those interested in joining. >> >> Love, >> Kathryn >> >> >> Kathryn Webster >> President, National Association of Blind Students >> (203) 273-8463 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> But don’t jump ahead of yourselves. Get board approval and suggestions first. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>> Stanford University, Class of 2021 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Armando L. Vias >>>>> Student >>>>> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >>>>> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >>>>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >>>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog >>>>> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 >>>>> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>>>>> Stanford University, class of 2021 >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You should do it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>>>>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>>>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>>>>>>>> Nabs >>>>>>>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>>>>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>>>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? 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Tue Mar 20 17:15:37 2018 From: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com (Sarah Jevnikar) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:15:37 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <27BC3825-C3B6-4A0C-9244-E3501B0C5DCB@gmail.com> References: <59115CB3-F4F4-457A-AAC4-9F3A9AB4D51A@gmail.com> <3EAA7C38-D989-4160-ADF0-3601507741E9@gmail.com> <8726004D-A912-47AE-9D36-F3590E6E570C@gmail.com> <0BE17E8D-52FE-4644-BFF5-3686B5A17F97@gmail.com> <6C9C73CB-57E9-482B-A73E-30F07DEBD535@gmail.com> <27BC3825-C3B6-4A0C-9244-E3501B0C5DCB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5ab141b9.1c69fb81.8417a.909c@mx.google.com> Not to be a wet blanket, but I confess I'm not big on Facebook anymore - accessibility and privacy concerns abound. I'll join and support the process, but I'd be just as happy to keep the mailing list alive and well. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of NABS President via NABS-L Sent: March 19, 2018 4:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: NABS President Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? Good afternoon all, I love the enthusiasm and energy behind this idea! Cricket, thank you so much for bringing up an excellent point and including our leadership in the decision making process! NABS is always seeking alternative methods of serving as a resource to our students and providing outlets that ensure our members are building a strong and vast network. After discussing this fabulous idea with the NABS Board, we are excited to launch a Facebook group that will cater to the 21st century, because, you know, emailing is so 2010 😊 Syed, our Outreach Committee Chair, and myself will further discuss the proper approach and logistics of such a group. Thank you for bringing this initiative to our attention; and we certainly look forward to building our organization even further through the world of Facebook! Stay tuned for more info, a link for the group itself, and guidelines for those interested in joining. Love, Kathryn Kathryn Webster President, National Association of Blind Students (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > But don’t jump ahead of yourselves. Get board approval and suggestions first. > > Best, > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > Stanford University, Class of 2021 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >> >> I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? >>> >>> -- >>> Armando L. Vias >>> Student >>> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >>> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More >>> Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email >>> Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>>> Stanford University, class of 2021 >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >>>>> >>>>> Santiago >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You should do it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students A proud >>>>>>> division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend >>>>>>>>> request named Nabs Link and they have a page where you can >>>>>>>>> simply “like” the page to keep up-to-date on what’s happening. >>>>>>>>> We are transitioning to the page from the profile after >>>>>>>>> national convention. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here is the link: >>>>>>>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2 >>>>>>>>> F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fd >>>>>>>>> a4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7 >>>>>>>>> C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL >>>>>>>>> 3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students A proud >>>>>>>>> division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I >>>>>>>>>> am not mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then >>>>>>>>>> get you on the group by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if >>>>>>>>>> you have Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind >>>>>>>>>> Students >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if >>>>>>>>>>> not, whether anyone would be interested in joining one? 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account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40g > mail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah.jevnikar%40gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From keribcu at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 17:36:58 2018 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:36:58 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good afternoon, I will be filling out paperwork soon for getting things set up for me to take the GRE, and I have a few questions I hope you can assist with. First, is the computerized test able to be taken on a laptop? I do one handed typing and laptops are best for me. Second can one use both computerized and braille for the test? Third, are there ever summer test dates? thanks, On 3/13/2018 2:40 PM, Loew, Ruth C via NABS-L wrote: > Hi - I'm with the ETS Office of Disability Policy, and I know many of you from NABS meetings. I lurk on this list. > > I've been following the thread about GRE study materials and using JAWS for math. The GRE General Test has recently changed to a new delivery platform that is accessible using JAWS, with or without a refreshable braille display. It is true that JAWS doesn't read all math notation successfully at this point; but for this test, math expressions and figure descriptions are provided in words and numbers for delivery to JAWS. In addition, for those who read braille and/or use tactile graphics, optional embossed supplements contain the test content of the math sections, including math notation (in Nemeth code) and tactile graphics. To obtain practice materials, see https://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/prepare/powerprep/practice_test_software." "Screen Reader and Refreshable Braille Compatibility" is at the bottom of the page. > > I hope this information is helpful. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me. > > Ruth C. Loew, Ph.D. > Assistant Director > Office of Disability Policy, ETS > Fax 609-683-2220 > > > ________________________________ > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. > > > Thank you for your compliance. > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 19:51:52 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:51:52 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? Message-ID: <5ab1665b.1c69fb81.8b308.8838@mx.google.com> I think we should keep the email list up for those who do not have Facebook pages. On Mar 19, 2018 4:26 PM, NABS President via NABS-L wrote: > > Good afternoon all, > > I love the enthusiasm and energy behind this idea! Cricket, thank you so much for bringing up an excellent point and including our leadership in the decision making process! NABS is always seeking alternative methods of serving as a resource to our students and providing outlets that ensure our members are building a strong and vast network. > > After discussing this fabulous idea with the NABS Board, we are excited to launch a Facebook group that will cater to the 21st century, because, you know, emailing is so 2010 😊 Syed, our Outreach Committee Chair, and myself will further discuss the proper approach and logistics of such a group. Thank you for bringing this initiative to our attention; and we certainly look forward to building our organization even further through the world of Facebook! > > Stay tuned for more info, a link for the group itself, and guidelines for those interested in joining. > > Love, > Kathryn > > Kathryn Webster > President, National Association of Blind Students > (203) 273-8463 > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > > > > But don’t jump ahead of yourselves. Get board approval and suggestions first. > > > > Best, > > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > > Stanford University, Class of 2021 > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > >> > >> I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > >>> > >>> Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Armando L. Vias > >>> Student > >>> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More > >>> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > >>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > >>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > >>> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > >>> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > >>> > >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Best, > >>>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > >>>> Stanford University, class of 2021 > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. > >>>>> > >>>>> Santiago > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You should do it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: > >>>>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Matthew Gip > >>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students > >>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California > >>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 > >>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com > >>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like > >>>>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: > >>>>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named > >>>>>>>>> Nabs > >>>>>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep > >>>>>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> profile after national convention. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip > >>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students > >>>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California > >>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 > >>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com > >>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not > >>>>>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the > >>>>>>>>>> group > >>>>>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. > >>>>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have > >>>>>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. > >>>>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas > >>>>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students > >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 > >>>>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, > >>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether > >>>>>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? 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> > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 19:59:29 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:59:29 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? Message-ID: <5ab16824.1c69fb81.fd89a.c151@mx.google.com> I think we should keep the email list up and running. On Mar 19, 2018 11:30 AM, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to communicating with fellow NABS members. > > Santiago > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 20:01:00 2018 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:01:00 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? In-Reply-To: <5ab1665b.1c69fb81.8b308.8838@mx.google.com> References: <5ab1665b.1c69fb81.8b308.8838@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7D035820-D59D-478B-84DD-816D5D84A14E@gmail.com> I don’t think anyone is talking about taking away the email list. Indeed, this list is NABS’ primary means of communication with our members. The Facebook group will merely be a supplement to the list – in other words, just another platform we can use to communicate with each other. I would also remind everyone that our Facebook page and Twitter account remain active. These are our main social media channels, on which our leaders post relevant announcements from the organization. I would encourage all of you to like us on Facebook by searching for national Association of blind students and follow us on Twitter by searching for @nabslink. Chris Nusbaum > On Mar 20, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > > I think we should keep the email list up for those who do not have Facebook pages. > >> On Mar 19, 2018 4:26 PM, NABS President via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Good afternoon all, >> >> I love the enthusiasm and energy behind this idea! Cricket, thank you so much for bringing up an excellent point and including our leadership in the decision making process! NABS is always seeking alternative methods of serving as a resource to our students and providing outlets that ensure our members are building a strong and vast network. >> >> After discussing this fabulous idea with the NABS Board, we are excited to launch a Facebook group that will cater to the 21st century, because, you know, emailing is so 2010 😊 Syed, our Outreach Committee Chair, and myself will further discuss the proper approach and logistics of such a group. Thank you for bringing this initiative to our attention; and we certainly look forward to building our organization even further through the world of Facebook! >> >> Stay tuned for more info, a link for the group itself, and guidelines for those interested in joining. >> >> Love, >> Kathryn >> >> Kathryn Webster >> President, National Association of Blind Students >> (203) 273-8463 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> But don’t jump ahead of yourselves. Get board approval and suggestions first. >>> >>> Best, >>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>> Stanford University, Class of 2021 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>> >>>> I was thinking about that as well. Having board members as admins is definitely a must. As for privacy concerns, the group can be closed, so that only members can view the content. That can be debated upon by the board and or members as a whole. Personally, I think that having a closed group would be best to minimize the chances of receiving spam and or unwanted messages from people that have no desire to join. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here is some points that you need to keep in mind. First of all, it's privacy concerns. For example, if a student has a profile that is public, someone that is not a student will look in the group and see the members of the group, and also, could stalk someone. I think that the Facebook group is a good idea, but IF the students hide their information on their Facebook profiles, then it will be a safer group. And also, how would the admins know that a student is trying to join the group? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Armando L. Vias >>>>> Student >>>>> Founder | Blindness Awareness and More >>>>> Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com >>>>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog >>>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog >>>>> Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 >>>>> Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cricket Bidleman via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would definitely be a good idea to get board approval since this will be associated with NABS as a whole. Actually, if it’s at all associated with outreach or branding, which any form of social media is, then board approval is probably necessary. The board may also want to be the admins if this is approved. I would strongly suggest asking them before immediately jumping to do this. Lots of energy and innovation are good but it’s generally important to ensure proper communication first. I would know—I’m bad at it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) >>>>>> Stanford University, class of 2021 >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:39, Santiago via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We should! Matthew, would you like to create the group, or would you like me to create it? I'm fine either way. I would also be more than happy to be one of the admins making sure things are okay, at the very least. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You should do it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip wrote: >>>>>>>>> That’s a great idea. If you need help creating it, I can definitely help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Alexandra Alfonso >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Santiago was asking about a group where we could all post, like >>>>>>>>>> facebook groups where we could discuss things. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/19/18, Matthew Gip via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> NABS has both a profile where you can send them a friend request named >>>>>>>>>>> Nabs >>>>>>>>>>> Link and they have a page where you can simply “like” the page to keep >>>>>>>>>>> up-to-date on what’s happening. We are transitioning to the page from >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> profile after national convention. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is the link: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=FkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL3Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> Matthew Gip >>>>>>>>>>> President, California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>>>> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (559) 375-2068 >>>>>>>>>>> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> Live The Life You Want! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> There should a NABS Facebook group, under "NABS Link." If I am not >>>>>>>>>>>> mistaken, I believe a NABS board member has to then get you on the >>>>>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>>>>> by accepting the friend request. >>>>>>>>>>>> Try searching "NABS Link." It would be even easier to find if you have >>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook friends who already are on it. >>>>>>>>>>>> Vejas Vasiliauskas >>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 3102653949 >>>>>>>>>>>> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:30, Santiago via NABS-L >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if a NABS Facebook group existed, and if not, whether >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone would be interested in joining one? I just thought of the idea, >>>>>>>>>>>>> and felt like it would be useful and more efficient when it comes to >>>>>>>>>>>>> communicating with fellow NABS members. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Santiago >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fda4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=3CHT3kbNsX2p0ZUBuC05Yi2JvOWmAzYcwIEfUqdsCt0%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>>>>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 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2018 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:24:46 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am kind of late to the party here. But I studied German and majored in it in undergrad. Then in grad school I took two semesters of French and one of Italian. It took some back and forth in undergrad, but I got all my books in Braille. In grad school I even worked with the online system to do my French homework. In addition to studying foreign languages formally, I've also learned to sing in many languages and have studied them that way. If I can help, let me know. :)

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On 3/17/18, Louis Maher via NABS-L wrote: > I found that the Hadley School can help by providing you language courses. > At least, they can teach a person the Braille alphabet in the language of > interest. > > The Hadley web site is: > "https://www.hadley.edu/". > > > Regards > Louis Maher > Phone: 713-444-7838 > E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Milan Novakovic via > NABS-L > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Milan Novakovic > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College > > Hi, > > I have experience in Spanish to the 203 level. > > Sincerely, > > Milan Novakovic > Department of Political Science > University of North Carolina at Greensboro > Email: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com > Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 > "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author > Unknown > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:02, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Dear Students, >> An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes >> in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so >> that I may connect you with the student in need. >> Thank you. >> >> Syed Rizvi >> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students >> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com >> 4132503523 >> “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne >> t.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab9 >> 9362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 >> %7C636569011832188987&sdata=rodwqJUZqyiG0l626c0drNe205mSpBHTOQIQQHrpt6 >> M%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your >> account info for NABS-L: >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne >> t.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fmilannovakovic99%2540g >> mail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7f >> e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=69OLICe8e8 >> 47AagnyfJjEVVJ7MSCCo1y42NDGLY9upw%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=rodwqJUZqyiG0l626c0drNe205mSpBHTOQIQQHrpt6M%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=LeandAkYygLvXdV2%2BwGsaFjfYeRjB1%2B5hSvDjqGGNw8%3D&reserved=0 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com > -- Julie A. McGinnity President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division, Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri "For we walk by faith, not by sight" 2 Cor. 7 From jldail13 at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 21:47:47 2018 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:47:47 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College Message-ID: <5ab18186.e7126b0a.c898d.9968@mx.google.com> Hi, I sang in Swahili when I was in choir. What languages do you know how to sing in? Thanks, Jessica On Mar 20, 2018 5:24 PM, Julie McGinnity via NABS-L wrote: > > I am kind of late to the party here.  But I studied German and majored > in it in undergrad.  Then in grad school I took two semesters of > French and one of Italian.  It took some back and forth in undergrad, > but I got all my books in Braille.  In grad school I even worked with > the online system to do my French homework.  In addition to studying > foreign languages formally, I've also learned to sing in many > languages and have studied them that way.  If I can help, let me know. > :) > > > > On 3/17/18, Louis Maher via NABS-L wrote: > > I found that the Hadley School can help by providing you language courses. > > At least, they can teach a person the Braille alphabet in the language of > > interest. > > > > The Hadley web site is: > > "https://www.hadley.edu/". > > > > > > Regards > > Louis Maher > > Phone: 713-444-7838 > > E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Milan Novakovic via > > NABS-L > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:32 AM > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Milan Novakovic > > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Help Needed Taking Foreign Language in College > > > > Hi, > > > > I have experience in Spanish to the 203 level. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Milan Novakovic > > Department of Political Science > > University of North Carolina at Greensboro > > Email: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com > > Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 > > "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author > > Unknown > > > >> On Mar 17, 2018, at 12:02, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L > >> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Students, > >> An individual reached out seeking help with her foreign language classes > >> in college. If any of you have experience in this, please let me know, so > >> that I may connect you with the student in need. > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Syed Rizvi > >> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students > >> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com > >> 4132503523 > >> “Tough times don't last, tough people do.”-Robert Schuller > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NABS-L mailing list > >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne > >> t.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab9 > >> 9362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 > >> %7C636569011832188987&sdata=rodwqJUZqyiG0l626c0drNe205mSpBHTOQIQQHrpt6 > >> M%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > >> account info for NABS-L: > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne > >> t.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fmilannovakovic99%2540g > >> mail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7f > >> e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=69OLICe8e8 > >> 47AagnyfJjEVVJ7MSCCo1y42NDGLY9upw%3D&reserved=0 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=rodwqJUZqyiG0l626c0drNe205mSpBHTOQIQQHrpt6M%3D&reserved=0 > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C25ab99362ae74b61c9ba08d58c24c12a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636569011832188987&sdata=LeandAkYygLvXdV2%2BwGsaFjfYeRjB1%2B5hSvDjqGGNw8%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com > > > > -- > Julie A. McGinnity > President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division, > Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri > "For we walk by faith, not by sight" > 2 Cor. 7 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 11:28:43 2018 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 07:28:43 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group? Message-ID: <5ab241f7.4191370a.80710.621a@mx.google.com> Hi=20Sarah, Sorry=20for=20going=20a=20little=20off-topic=20for=20a=20moment,=20but=20I= =20noticed=20 you=20mentioned=20accessibility=20of=20Facebook.=20=20Just=20to=20let=20you= =20and=20 anyone=20else=20know,=20Facebook=20is=20very=20accessible=20these=20days,=20= depending=20on=20which=20platform=20you=20use=20(especially=20VoiceOver).=20= =20I've=20 only=20joined=20two=20years=20ago,=20so=20I=20may=20not=20be=20aware=20of=20= any=20 accessibility=20barriers=20that=20have=20happened=20previously,=20but=20if= =20 there=20has=20been=20any,=20it's=20a=20lot=20more=20accessible=20now. Anyway,=20thank=20you=20to=20Santiago=20for=20proposing=20to=20add=20this=20= group.=20=20 I'm=20all=20for=20it,=20and=20it=20may=20even=20allow=20people=20to=20get=20= to=20know=20each=20 other=20better=20and=20make=20friends=20with=20other=20NABS=20group=20membe= rs. I=20hope=20this=20group=20will=20be=20put=20in=20place=20soon. Thanks, Sami =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Sarah=20Jevnikar=20via=20NABS-L=20=20wrote: =20But=20don=E2=80=99t=20jump=20ahead=20of=20yourselves.=20=20Get=20board=20= approval=20and=20 suggestions=20first. =20Best, =20Cricket=20X.=20=20Bidleman=20(she/her/hers) =20Stanford=20University,=20Class=20of=202021 =20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=2012:36,=20Santiago=20via=20NABS-L=20 =20wrote: =20I=20was=20thinking=20about=20that=20as=20well.=20=20Having=20board=20mem= bers=20as=20 admins=20is=20definitely=20a=20must.=20=20As=20for=20privacy=20concerns,=20= the=20group=20 can=20be=20closed,=20so=20that=20only=20members=20can=20view=20the=20conten= t.=20=20That=20 can=20be=20debated=20upon=20by=20the=20board=20and=20or=20members=20as=20a= =20whole.=20=20 Personally,=20I=20think=20that=20having=20a=20closed=20group=20would=20be=20= best=20to=20 minimize=20the=20chances=20of=20receiving=20spam=20and=20or=20unwanted=20me= ssages=20 from=20people=20that=20have=20no=20desire=20to=20join. =20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=2012:10=20PM,=20Armando=20Vias=20via=20NABS-= L=20 =20wrote: =20Here=20is=20some=20points=20that=20you=20need=20to=20keep=20in=20mind.=20= =20First=20of=20 all,=20it's=20privacy=20concerns.=20=20For=20example,=20if=20a=20student=20= has=20a=20 profile=20that=20is=20public,=20someone=20that=20is=20not=20a=20student=20w= ill=20look=20 in=20the=20group=20and=20see=20the=20members=20of=20the=20group,=20and=20al= so,=20could=20 stalk=20someone.=20=20I=20think=20that=20the=20Facebook=20group=20is=20a=20= good=20idea,=20 but=20IF=20the=20students=20hide=20their=20information=20on=20their=20Faceb= ook=20 profiles,=20then=20it=20will=20be=20a=20safer=20group.=20=20And=20also,=20h= ow=20would=20the=20 admins=20know=20that=20a=20student=20is=20trying=20to=20join=20the=20group?= =20-- =20Armando=20L.=20=20Vias =20Student =20Founder=20|=20Blindness=20Awareness=20and=20More =20Website:=20www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com =20Facebook:=20www.facebook.com/baamoreblog =20Twitter:=20www.twitter.com/baamoreblog=20Blindness=20Awareness=20and=20 More =20Feedback=20Line:=20(724)=20964-2111=20Blindness=20Awareness=20and=20More= =20Email =20Address:=20blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=202:55=20PM,=20Cricket=20Bidleman=20via=20NA= BS-L=20 =20wrote: =20I=20think=20it=20would=20definitely=20be=20a=20good=20idea=20to=20get=20= board=20approval=20 since=20this=20will=20be=20associated=20with=20NABS=20as=20a=20whole.=20=20= Actually,=20if=20 it=E2=80=99s=20at=20all=20associated=20with=20outreach=20or=20branding,=20w= hich=20any=20 form=20of=20social=20media=20is,=20then=20board=20approval=20is=20probably= =20 necessary.=20=20The=20board=20may=20also=20want=20to=20be=20the=20admins=20= if=20this=20is=20 approved.=20=20I=20would=20strongly=20suggest=20asking=20them=20before=20 immediately=20jumping=20to=20do=20this.=20=20Lots=20of=20energy=20and=20inn= ovation=20 are=20good=20but=20it=E2=80=99s=20generally=20important=20to=20ensure=20pro= per=20 communication=20first.=20=20I=20would=20know=E2=80=94I=E2=80=99m=20bad=20at= =20it. =20Best, =20Cricket=20X.=20=20Bidleman=20(she/her/hers) =20Stanford=20University,=20class=20of=202021 =20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=2011:39,=20Santiago=20via=20NABS-L=20 =20wrote: =20We=20should!=20Matthew,=20would=20you=20like=20to=20create=20the=20group= ,=20or=20would=20 you=20like=20me=20to=20create=20it?=20I'm=20fine=20either=20way.=20=20I=20w= ould=20also=20be=20 more=20than=20happy=20to=20be=20one=20of=20the=20admins=20making=20sure=20t= hings=20are=20 okay,=20at=20the=20very=20least. =20Santiago =20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=2011:33=20AM,=20Alexandra=20Alfonso=20via=20= NABS-L=20 =20wrote: =20You=20should=20do=20it. =20On=203/19/18,=20Matthew=20Gip=20=20wrote: =20That=E2=80=99s=20a=20great=20idea.=20=20If=20you=20need=20help=20creatin= g=20it,=20I=20can=20 definitely=20help. =20Matthew=20Gip =20President,=20California=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20A=20prou= d =20division=20of=20the=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20of=20Ca= lifornia =20Phone:=20(559)=20375-2068 =20Email:=20matthewhgip at gmail.com =20Live=20The=20Life=20You=20Want! =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=2010:43=20AM,=20Alexandra=20Alfonso =20=20wro= te: =20NABS=20has=20both=20a=20profile=20where=20you=20can=20send=20them=20a=20= friend =20request=20named=20Nabs=20Link=20and=20they=20have=20a=20page=20where=20y= ou=20can =20simply=20=E2=80=9Clike=E2=80=9D=20the=20page=20to=20keep=20up-to-date=20= on=20what=E2=80=99s=20 happening. =20We=20are=20transitioning=20to=20the=20page=20from=20the=20profile=20afte= r =20national=20convention. =20Here=20is=20the=20link: =20https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2 =20F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FNabspage%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C4f9ca8a75fd =20a4c571d9b08d58dcaf3a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7 =20C0%7C636570825163125136&sdata=3DFkTQMkiXwQUEsYoAddBHE0VVQ6AVBABL =203Ji4hqldw2s%3D&reserved=3D0 =20Best, =20Matthew=20Gip =20President,=20California=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20A=20prou= d =20division=20of=20the=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20of=20Ca= lifornia =20Phone:=20(559)=20375-2068 =20Email:=20matthewhgip at gmail.com =20Live=20The=20Life=20You=20Want! =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=2010:27=20AM,=20Vejas=20Vasiliauskas=20via=20= NABS-L =20=20wrote: =20Hi, =20Hi, =20There=20should=20a=20NABS=20Facebook=20group,=20under=20"NABS=20Link."=20= If=20I =20am=20not=20mistaken,=20I=20believe=20a=20NABS=20board=20member=20has=20t= o=20then =20get=20you=20on=20the=20group=20by=20accepting=20the=20friend=20request. =20Try=20searching=20"NABS=20Link."=20It=20would=20be=20even=20easier=20to= =20find=20if =20you=20have=20Facebook=20friends=20who=20already=20are=20on=20it. =20Vejas=20Vasiliauskas =20Secretary=20and=20Treasurer=20of=20California=20Association=20of=20Blind= =20Students =20Phone:=203102653949 =20Email:=20alpineimagination at gmail.com =20On=20Mar=2019,=202018,=20at=2008:30,=20Santiago=20via=20NABS-L =20 Dear All, Please find copied and pasted and attached a flyer for the first annual spring reception hosted by the California Association of Blind Students. Also, please help us spread the word as we are working on building more membership, considering that is a very important part of the Federation. California Association of Blind Students (CABS) Presents: “1st Annual Southern California Reception” When: April 28, 2018 12:00 - 3:00 pm Where: Shakey’s Pizza, 935 West Arbor Vitae Street, Inglewood, California 90301 CABS invites all blind/low vision students to our first annual spring reception in beautiful Southern California. Come enjoy a day of delicious food, meet other blind students, and find out more about our student division! • Are you a blind student in or near Southern California? • Are you interested in meeting other blind students? • Would you like to learn more about CABS and what we do? • Do you like pizza and other delicious foods? If you answered yes to any of the questions above, then our spring reception is for you! Food will be provided, along with prizes and surprises! Bring a fellow blind/low vision friend to our event; whoever brings a friend will have their name thrown into a raffle and whoever brings the most friends will win a grand prize! To RSVP, go to https://cabs2018.wordpress.com/2018/03/19/8/. If you have any questions or would like to attend, please call President Matthew Gip at (559) 375-2068 or email him at matthewhgip at gmail.com Thank you, Matthew Gip President, California Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California Phone: (559) 375-2068 Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com Live The Life You Want! From cjmullin225 at aol.com Wed Mar 21 18:42:40 2018 From: cjmullin225 at aol.com (Connor Mullin) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 14:42:40 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] GRE study materials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14F02F88-44FB-49AA-A2A7-C200A6C0D005@aol.com> Hi Keri, I participated in some of the accessibility testing of the new computerized voice version of the GRE. I’m not entirely sure whether the test will be administered on a laptop or desktop; I think this would depend on the location at which you take the test – whether it is a testing center or another location that is used less frequently by ETS. Second, if I understand your question correctly, the test can be read using text to speech, a Braille display, or both, but I would check with the company to see which braille displays are compatible with their testing platform. Third, I’m not entirely sure about summer dates, although I believe there are multiple. I hope all of this helps. Good luck on the test! Connor Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > I will be filling out paperwork soon for getting things set up for me to take the GRE, and I have a few questions I hope you can assist with. > > First, is the computerized test able to be taken on a laptop? > > I do one handed typing and laptops are best for me. > > Second can one use both computerized and braille for the test? > > Third, are there ever summer test dates? > > > thanks, > > > >> On 3/13/2018 2:40 PM, Loew, Ruth C via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi - I'm with the ETS Office of Disability Policy, and I know many of you from NABS meetings. I lurk on this list. >> >> I've been following the thread about GRE study materials and using JAWS for math. The GRE General Test has recently changed to a new delivery platform that is accessible using JAWS, with or without a refreshable braille display. It is true that JAWS doesn't read all math notation successfully at this point; but for this test, math expressions and figure descriptions are provided in words and numbers for delivery to JAWS. In addition, for those who read braille and/or use tactile graphics, optional embossed supplements contain the test content of the math sections, including math notation (in Nemeth code) and tactile graphics. To obtain practice materials, see https://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/prepare/powerprep/practice_test_software." "Screen Reader and Refreshable Braille Compatibility" is at the bottom of the page. >> >> I hope this information is helpful. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me. >> >> Ruth C. Loew, Ph.D. >> Assistant Director >> Office of Disability Policy, ETS >> Fax 609-683-2220 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. >> >> >> Thank you for your compliance. >> >> ________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cjmullin225%40aol.com From a.vias at outlook.com Wed Mar 21 19:48:33 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:48:33 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Outlook Help Message-ID: Hey. I need some help with Outlook. When I log into my school account, I can get notifications saying that I have new emails. But, when I log into my personal Microsoft Account, I don't get notifications. How do I turn notifications on? I am using Internet Explorer. -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder | Blindness Awareness and More Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com From milannovakovic99 at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 20:07:05 2018 From: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com (Milan Novakovic) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:07:05 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Undergraduate Research Opportunity in Biology Message-ID: <92CCFE6B-B616-4B53-86E7-E1FE517FEFBB@gmail.com> Hello, I came across an opportunity for blind and low vision students to explore research opportunities in biology. Attached please find a flyer and a copy of the text for your accessibility continence. Sincerely, Milan Novakovic III (He/Him/His) Resident Advisor Moore/Strong Residence Hall The Office of Housing and Residence Life University of North Carolina at Greensboro Email: m_novako at uncg.edu Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author Unknown Creating Leaders and Inclusion in Molecular Biology May 14th-June 22nd 2018 The CLIMB Summer Research Program in the Van Hoewyk Lab at Coastal Carolina University seeks to develop tomorrow's leaders in cell and molecular biology. This NSF-funded program aims to create research opportunities for undergraduates who have physical disabilities. A stipend, airfare, and housing are provided. National Science Foundation Where Discoveries Begin Science is driven by good ideas, and diverse groups broaden the "idea pool. People with both visual and nonvisual physical disabilities are underrepresented in the scientific community, and CLIMB will provide accommodations and support for all undergraduate students. To apply: qualified students should submit a resume, unofficial transcript, cover letter that describes your career goals, and the contact information of three professors/employers who can serve as a reference. Please submit material via email to dougvh at coastal.edu by April 1st. All applicants are encouraged to email or call Doug Van Hoewyk (843 349 2431) to discuss CLIMB or possible projects. Sincerely, Milan Novakovic Department of Political Science University of North Carolina at Greensboro Email: milannovakovic99 at gmail.com Cell: +1 (704)-577-6954 "Some people DREAM about success, others get up and WORK for it"-Author Unknown From a.vias at outlook.com Fri Mar 23 00:36:42 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 00:36:42 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Accessibility Improvements for the Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I sent this email to a conferencing service that I am about to use. I think that this is an example of advocacy. -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder | Blindness Awareness and More Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com Begin forwarded message: From: a.vias at outlook.com Date: March 21, 2018 at 10:08:19 PM EDT To: customercare at totallyfreeconferencecalls.com Subject: Accessibility Improvements for the Website Hey. I am a 17-year-old student, with plans to host conferences in the future. As a blind student, I rely on screen readers such as NVDA, (Non-Visual Desktop Access), JAWS, (Job Access with Speech), VoiceOver, etc. I haven't used the website that much, but I would like to improve the accessibility for other blind students and/or customers. Below, you will find a link to some information about web accessibility. https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-refs.html If you need more information, please let me know and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks. Armando Vias -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder | Blindness Awareness and More Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com From tyler at tysdomain.com Fri Mar 23 01:44:08 2018 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 21:44:08 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Accessibility Improvements for the Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, First your signature is atrociously long and you'll probably get in trouble on most mailing lists. I usually don't notice until I have to skim down. Second, if someone came to me and said "I haven't used your site much but I would like to improve your accessibility," it feels like a really weird marketing pitch. In short, use the site and then point out issues and things that don't work and potential fixes. Otherwise they have no clue where to begin and you haven't told them anything that's actually wrong. On 3/22/2018 8:36 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > I sent this email to a conferencing service that I am about to use. I think that this is an example of advocacy. > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: a.vias at outlook.com > Date: March 21, 2018 at 10:08:19 PM EDT > To: customercare at totallyfreeconferencecalls.com > Subject: Accessibility Improvements for the Website > > Hey. I am a 17-year-old student, with plans to host conferences in the future. As a blind student, I rely on screen readers such as NVDA, (Non-Visual Desktop Access), JAWS, (Job Access with Speech), VoiceOver, etc. I haven't used the website that much, but I would like to improve the accessibility for other blind students and/or customers. Below, you will find a link to some information about web accessibility. > https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-refs.html > If you need more information, please let me know and I will get back to you as soon as possible. > Thanks. > Armando Vias > > -- > Armando L. Vias > Student > Founder | Blindness Awareness and More > Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com > Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog > Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog > Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 > Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From steve.jacobson at visi.com Sat Mar 24 15:09:36 2018 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 10:09:36 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Final Reminder, Scholarships Available for Legally Blind Students in Minnesota, apply by April 15, 2018 In-Reply-To: <004c01d3c380$fb443da0$f1ccb8e0$@nfbmn.org> References: <004c01d3c380$fb443da0$f1ccb8e0$@nfbmn.org> Message-ID: <003e01d3c382$1f7989e0$5e6c9da0$@visi.com> There is still time to apply for a scholarship from the National Federation of the Blind of Minnesota. Applications must be received by April 15, 2018. Legally blind postsecondary students attending school full-time in Minnesota are encouraged to apply. Please download the application and all pertinent information at http://www.nfbmn.org or use the attached document. If possible, please fill out the application using the Microsoft Word document and send it with the required documents to Scholarships at nfbmn.org. If it is necessary to submit the application on paper, use the mailing address supplied with the application. An online application form is also available. For help with the application process, please contact me: Lori Anderson Scholarship Committee Chair National Federation of the Blind of Minnesota Scholarships at nfbmn.org 612-270-4381 *** A Note from our national office: Thirty-one scholarships will be awarded by the National Federation of the Blind. The deadline for NFB applications is March 31, 2018, so time is extremely short. Details are accessible from the main page of the National Federation of the Blind website: https://www.nfb.org. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2018 Scholarship Letter and Application.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 200987 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 19:34:18 2018 From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 15:34:18 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Join the NABS Outreach Committee Call Tomorrow Night at 8pm EST Message-ID: Howdy, NABSTERS! I would like to invite you all to join the Outreach Committee call tomorrow night, at 8pm EST. It will be a call you won’t want to miss. So come out and show your NABS pride!!! The call-in info is as follows: Call (712) 770-5197 Code 265-669 I hope to see y’all there! Best, Bri Brianna Rigsbee Secretary | Connecticut Association of Blind Students E: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com C: (203) 751-0199 “You can’t fly unless you let yourself fall.” “You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back." From rbacchus228 at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 20:54:59 2018 From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 16:54:59 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] The Future Of Braille Message-ID: <5ab6bb25.1c69fb81.607af.d120@mx.google.com> Dear Students, I hope all of you are doing well. Next week I will be attending Working With The Experts- A Passport To The Future Of Braille For Visually Impaired Students. This conference will be held at the Manhattan Center in Tampa, Florida from Wednesday April fourth through Friday April sixth. During this conference we will be discussing the future of braille. The conference is being hosted by the Visual Aid Volunteers Of Florida and the Florida Instructional Materials Center for The Visually Impaired. What are your thoughts about the future of braille? Why is braille important to you? How has braille impacted the lives of your family members? How do you use braille on a daily basis?  Roanna Bacchus From cmendez at nfb.org Sun Mar 25 14:00:02 2018 From: cmendez at nfb.org (Mendez, Catherine) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:00:02 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Just one week remaining: NFB scholarships Message-ID: Greetings all, This is just a reminder that you only have one more week to complete and submit your online applications for the National Federation of the Blind 2018 scholarship program. Visit https://NFB.org/scholarships Remember, you can’t win if you don’t apply! Sincerely, Cayte Mendez, Scholarship Committee Chair Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From aachase1 at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 18:03:34 2018 From: aachase1 at gmail.com (Alan A. Chase) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:03:34 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] EYE Retreat 2018 Message-ID: Good afternoon all, Applications are rolling in for the 2018 EYE Retreat, but we need your help to spread the word! Tell your friends about the EYE Retreat. Slots are limited. The schedule for 2018 includes cooking, social skills, exploring a college campus, public transportation, dorm living, academic success workshops, and much more! NEW this year! Groups will be co-lead by college students with and without visual impairments to give a well-rounded simulated college experience. The final deadline is to apply is June 1, but the sooner the better. The cost to attend can be covered by a Vocational Rehabilitation agency through PETS. Ask your counselor! The EYE Retreat is now celebrating its 10th year and we want you to be part of the fun and growth to come! Contact Dr. Alan Chase at alan.chase at eyeretreat.org for more information. Apply here: https://goo.gl/forms/qaCfpnNedpStlYHf1 *Dr. Alan A. Chase* Assistant Principal, Tennessee School for the Blind President & Executive Director, Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 18:49:39 2018 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:49:39 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] EYE Retreat 2018 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d3c46a$082423c0$186c6b40$@gmail.com> Oops, I meant to send that to my state, I apologize. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alan A. Chase via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Alan A. Chase Subject: [NABS-L] EYE Retreat 2018 Good afternoon all, Applications are rolling in for the 2018 EYE Retreat, but we need your help to spread the word! Tell your friends about the EYE Retreat. Slots are limited. The schedule for 2018 includes cooking, social skills, exploring a college campus, public transportation, dorm living, academic success workshops, and much more! NEW this year! Groups will be co-lead by college students with and without visual impairments to give a well-rounded simulated college experience. The final deadline is to apply is June 1, but the sooner the better. The cost to attend can be covered by a Vocational Rehabilitation agency through PETS. Ask your counselor! The EYE Retreat is now celebrating its 10th year and we want you to be part of the fun and growth to come! Contact Dr. Alan Chase at alan.chase at eyeretreat.org for more information. Apply here: https://goo.gl/forms/qaCfpnNedpStlYHf1 *Dr. Alan A. Chase* Assistant Principal, Tennessee School for the Blind President & Executive Director, Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From codybeardslee at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 22:20:14 2018 From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:20:14 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Discussion Call Message-ID: <7E8A1CC2-9A9E-4972-B616-5D916B265B54@gmail.com> Hey students! The Minnesota Association of Blind Students would like to welcome everyone to our discussion call tonight at 8pm central. We will be talking about how to be more proactive as a student including time management, balancing your schedule, and how to distress after a long day. We can’t wait to hear your thoughts and ideas! To join, simply call the following number: 641-715-3276, and enter the following access code: 6326673 If you have any questions feel free to email us at students at nfbmn.org or contact our President Cody Beardslee at 763-291-3711. Sincerely The MNABS Board From ALewis at nfb.org Mon Mar 26 12:22:55 2018 From: ALewis at nfb.org (Lewis, Anil) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 12:22:55 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] My Apologies Message-ID: All: I would like to apologize for missing the NABS Membership Committee call last night. I had it scheduled on my calendar, and I was looking forward to the call. However, I decided to take some aspirin and take a little nap before the call, and I didn't wake up until 3 a.m. My friends attempted to call and text me, but my phone was still muted from attending a recital earlier that afternoon. I offer a sincere apology to Syed for missing the call. He did a lot of advanced planning, and my mistake should not reflect negatively on him. I appreciate him asking me to serve, and we will hopefully be able to work together in the future. I also apologize to Pattie for leaving her to carry the water alone. I love working alongside her because she brings out the best in me. I am sure she did an excellent job without me. I apologize to all who were anticipating my participation on the call. I may have been able to add something to the discussion that would have been helpful, but I am hopeful we will have other opportunities to share with one another. I personally regret not being able to participate because I am usually uplifted and enlightened by participating in NABS events. I hope you will all accept my sincere apology. With Love, Anil Anil Lewis, M.P.A. 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Name: image004.png Type: image/png Size: 16510 bytes Desc: image004.png URL: From guilevi2000 at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 18:54:08 2018 From: guilevi2000 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Guillem_Le=C3=B3n?=) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:54:08 +0200 Subject: [NABS-L] A serious problem with required tests for university applications Message-ID: Hello list members, My name is Guillem Leon, and I am a 17 year old blind student from Spain. Around the end of last year, after attending a piano academy at Indiana university, I decided to do my best to apply for a Bachelor of Music degree there, and start my studies in the fall 2018 term. The application process for the university went quite smoothly, and I also decided to apply to University of Michigan. The problems started when I applied for accomodations for both the SAT (administered by College Board) and the TOEFL (administered by ETS). My accomodations were approved in the first week of January for both tests. From that moment on, it should not have been much of a problem to get the test materials shipped to a test center, take the test and send it back for review. But because of the fact that usually things are handled by a school's SSD coordinator, and there is no such thing in Spain, none of the representatives knew what to do and gave me conflicting information, making the process quite literally impossible. My university gave me a deadline for scores of April 1st. Through the Office of International Services, I managed to move that deadline to April 25th. It is March 26th. After many problems and a formal complaint letter (attached below), I managed to take the TOEFL last week. Unfortunately, that is not the case with the SAT, and even though I did also write a complaint letter to them (also attached below) they are now only giving me the option to possibly take it in Braille, even though neither I or the test center have easy access to a Braille writer, and I am not familiar with grade 2 Braille or UEB. According to them, they do not offer digital computer-based tests, although all of the practice tests on their site are in Word format and nicely marked up for accessibility. Even if I were to take that test next week, the scores will most likely not be ready by the university deadline. I have spoken to the Indiana University Office of Students with Disabilities, and they are trying to contact the College Board to confirm this information. I even had to fax the College Board a letter stating I was OK with them releasing my information to the university, and now that they seem to have responded to my complaint letter and may let me take the test, I'm scared that they will tell them that there are no problems with my case. For clarification, a representative of the College Board SSD told me my case notes were not only the longest he had seen in his life, but had also been edited by no less than 13 different representatives. It seems that if you are both international and require accomodations for disabilities, nobody knows what to do with you. University of Michigan already cancelled my application for this exact reason a couple months ago, without refunding my application and audition fees, of course. Indiana University has been understanding enough to give me extra time, but they can only do so much. Because of my extended deadlines, I am technically no longer applicable to receive a scholarship, and my family cannot possibly hope to cover the costs associated with the degree (IU estimates over $50,000). Financial aid is not available to non-US citizens. I expressly travelled to Indiana for four days in March to perform at a live audition, with all the associated costs. I mentioned to both the College Board and ETS that, if my application to IU were to be cancelled because of these issues, I would do my best to take legal action, but I do not know where to start with that as an international student. Because of incompetence on the College Board and ETS's part, this whole process may all have been in vain. Is there anything else that can be done? Failing that, what would be the most effective way to take legal action towards this matter? Quoted below are my messages to the College Board and ETS, which explain in more detail the whole process I went through. After these complaint letters, ETS rectified and allowed me to take the test at an SAT test center which had been agreeing to test me all along, and the College Board has partly started to do the same. Thank you so much for reading. Complaint letter to the College board: > I WOULD LIKE THIS E-MAIL TO BE FORWARDED TO A MANAGER/SUPERVISOR. > > Hello, > My name is Guillem león Vivas. I am a blind 17 year old student from Spain. I am applying to an American University for the fall term, and thus, I am required to take the March SAT. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like this will be not be possible, for some unacceptable reasons. Not only were there huge delays in processing (which were past your official estimations) and ignorance on the College Board side which caused issues in my SSD accomodations request, but I am now getting completely contradictory information from within the SSD department. > > My accomodations request was approved on january 4, 2018, about a month after my forms were sent. Three days after I received confirmation of this fact, on 1/11/2018, I attempted to start the registration process and found my first problem: The system did not accept my SSD number for seemingly no reason. I immediately E-Mailed the SSD department about this fact and received a reply soon after, instructing me to sign up with a random test center and no accomodations so that my SSD number could be put in later (Ref: 180108-000210). I did this and E-Mailed the SSD department again. For some unknown reason, my case was handled by another representative, and I was told to contact the standard SAT department, even though the issue was clearly with the SSD numbers. > I contacted the standard SAT department through E-Mail. The exchange did not make any sense. At first, I told them about a problem regarding the accent on the O in my last name, just to make sure I did not need it as long as it matched my college application. They responded accordingly and asked for some information regarding my SAT application. In my next E-Mail, I provided this information, and explained the main issue with the SSD, as I had been insturcted to by them in the "original inquiry" part of the form, which I assumed was the most important. Their next E-Mail completely ignored that original inquiry and kept insisting on the name problem, which I had specified had been fixed. There was no mention to my original inquiry. i responded to the E-Mail and explained the issue all over again. This E-Mail received no response. > At this point I switched to phone calls, as I thought this would make things easier. I called the Standard SAT department on 01/23/2018 and, of course, was transferred straight back to SSD. After explaining the problem again, they found the cause of my issue: the person tasked with entering the information I had provided in the paper-based form I was sent had somehow decided to ignore my second last name, and my name on file with SSD and the one I had typed into the registration form did not match. This issue, even though clearly a problem on the College Board side, had to be taken care of by sending in a name change request form. We did not have an easy way to send a Fax, so it took a bit less than a week to send the request form. This was within the deadline the representative had specified, which was actually march 8th. > I received no confirmation of the fact that the form had been received for almost two weeks, so I called in again. As it turned out, my form had been received, but had not been acted to, again for some unknown reason. A few days later my accomodations were added to my registration and that seemed to be the end of my problems, until I called in to confirm my test center. > > The College Board SSD department seems to have very little information on how to react to an international blind applicant. Since the College Board tests are not standardizd here, most of our schools are not affiliated with you and do not have an SSD coordinator. This is something your representatives did not seem to understand. I was being told by different people to find a different test center in my area, and to tell the College Board about my school because taht was the only place where I could actually take the test. I asked a representative to give me more direct information in writing and I was told I would receive an E-Mail. This E-mail never arrived. > A week later, on 01/27/2018, I got my school involved with the process. They called in and asked about testing me, and were told to send a fax saying they were willing to test me to +1 606 336 1489. This number did not work. > The next day they called again and asked for an explanation. They were given a second number, (+1) 609 771 7944, to which they sent the fax. Aftre that, they called back and asked for confirmation that everything was correct. The person they spoke to, however, said that they could not administer my test because they weren't registered. According to Code Control, the school registration process would take about two to three weeks, which was too long for the required dates, so they asked for an alternative location. We were given the information for the ES International School (ESIS), and we have been in contac with them ever since. > After explaining my situation and accomodation requirements, Adela Gavozdea of ESIS instantly gave us confirmation that they would be willing to administer my test. I called the College Board and informed them of this fact, and they told me that ESIS would have to send a "willingness to test letter" by fax, which they did that same day. > The next day, on 03/01/2018, I had to leave for the United States to perform the auditions at the Univresity I applied to. When I got there, I was told by my school that ESIS had told them that the College Board had said that it was OK for my school to test me. They called the College Board to confirm this, and were told by an agent (quite rudely accoding to them) that everything was correct and there was nothing else to be checked, and that the materials were to arrive on Wednesday. At this point, everything seemed OK, so we relaxed and waited. > > This did not last long. On Tuesday, March 6th, I received an E-Mail from Nicole Stoop, informing me that there was no test center assigned to me. I replied, explaining the situation and telling her that there had been negotiations with both ESIS and my school, and that they could test me. To my surprise and absolute disbelief, her next reply informed me that not only it was impossible for my school to test me, but that no materials had been shipped at all. I immediately called ESIS and the College Board to verify this. The former told me what I already knew: THEY were told that my school could test me and had no idea where this new information came from. The latter, after a 28 minute call, told me they literally did not know anything about this case, and that as Ms. Stoop said, it was not possible for my school to administer the test. At this point I could do nothing but wait until the next day to see if the materials arrived. They did not. > As the person who talked to my school earlier had insisted hat everything was correct and did not say where the materials had been sent, we were worried they may have been submitted to ESIS. We called them, but they could not verify this, since they cannot open up the test materials until test day. To this day we have no idea where the materials were sent, if they were sent at all. > I called the College Board again and, predictably, received the same response. I managed to obtain the reference number for the case from my school (Ref: 180228-003279), but by the time I called again, I did not manage to speak to anybody. At this point, fearing I would never get my SAT on time, I E-Mailed the university's Office of International Services asking for a waiver. I have yet to receive a response from them. > Yesterday, I called again, but only one person was there because of the snowstorm. This happened to be a supervisor, André, so I thought this would finally get cleared up. I gave him the reference number which supposedly contained the information about the shipping of the test materials (Ref: 180228003279), and he found nothing. He indicated I should call again the next day so that he could talk to the shipping department. I will be doing that later today. > > As it stands, it looks as if I will not get my SAT on time. I have no idea how it is even possible for one department to have so much disorganization > regarding one case, and how it is possible that nobody seems to be able to handle the case the same way, even though I have been providing my reference number in every call. I have practiced for months for my auditions, gone through the application process and payd application and audition fees, and even traveled to America to perform, with all the associated huge costs, after the College Board told me that everything was settled, which turned out to be untrue. I am having similar issues with ETS with the TOEFL test. These are all problems outside of my control and understanding, and if I do not manage to take my test before April 1st, which is the deadline that the university has given me, I will lose my application and will have wasted a huge amount of time and money, simply because of a lack of organization on your part. > If I lose my application, I will do what I can to take stronger legal measures. > > I hope this issue can be sorted out soon. The university's disability services will also be contacting the College Board today. I am hoping you will at least be able to give them some actual information. > > Thank you. > > > > Sincerely, > > Guillem León Vivas > SSD number: xxxxxxxxxx > SAT registration number: xxxxxxxxxx Complaint letter to ETS: > I WOULD LIKE THIS E-MAIL TO BE FORWARDED TO A MANAGER. > > Hello, > > My name is Guillem Leon Vivas, and I am a 17 year old student from Spain. I am also completely blind, and as such, I am in need of accomodations for the TOEFL. This is why I had to work with the Services for Students with Disabilities department of ETS. > I initially applied for accomodations with a "CoE: accomodations history" on 11/20/2017. On 11/28/2017, I received my initial turnaround letter. It seemed as if the CoE was not enough documentation, so I resubmitted my registration forms on 12/06/2017 with more documentation. > Almost a full month later, on 01/05/2018, I received a reply from Ms. Nora Hallenbeck, indicating that my accomodations request had been approved, and asking me for more clarification as to which ones I needed and how they could be delivered. I replied to that E-Mail on that same day providing the information you requested. > I waited for eleven days, which is way past the 3-5 business days estimate your system gives any customer. After those eleven days, on 01/16/2018, I wrote to ETS again asking for confirmation that my E-Mail had been received. Once again, I received no reply. > On 01/23/2018 I wrote to ETS again with a similar message. No longer having faith in getting a reply, I figured out a way to call ETS directly from Spain and spoke with your representatives. There was seemingly no valid reason for my E-mails not being answered other than "lots of work". I can understand that the SSD may have to deal with many cases, but I was not only asked on EVERY E-Mail to reply as soon as possible, I was also given an estimate for replies which you did not come even close to respecting. > I received an E-Mail not even 24 hours later offering me the test formats I could take. My choice had already been expressed in a previous E-Mail, but on that same day, I replied to the message and chose a full computer-based test. For the rest of the day, communication went smoothly and the test center was supposedly contacted. As soon as I indicated that I was fine with testing on a weekend, Ms. Hallenbeck stopped responding for another few days. On 01/29/2018, I was told that the test center only had Mac computers and I would have to use VoiceOver. I indicated, on that same day, that this was perfectly fine for me, as my main system is Mac OS. > I received absolutely nothing for two weeks after that. On 02/14/2018, I E-Mailed ETS again asking for an update. This E-Mail was never replied to. I called in the next day and spoke to Ms. Hallenbeck, who claimed she had not received my E-mail. She said there were some issues contacting the test center. I was quite skeptical about this, as it had already been two weeks and I found it slightly strange that you couldn't have simply called them. I was not told which test center was being contacted, and I was also told there was nothing I could do on my side. At this point I was getting seriously worried. The university which I applied to has their TOEFL and SAT deadline on February 1st, which I had not been able to comply with because of these huge delays in communication. I was already on an extended period until April 1st. > on 02/19/2018, i called again asking for an explanation. This was the first call in a series of four in the space of three days. On all instances I was told that Ms. Hallenbeck was not at her desk and nobody else seemed to have a clue about my situation. At that point I was getting ready to leave for a few days to do my piano auditions at Indiana University Bloomington. > At the same time as I was trying to fix my issues with the TOEFL, I was also having similar (if not worse) problems with the SAT. For that reason I had to contact the ES International School in Barcelona. This school, as far as I now understand, is also an ETS-approved testing center, which I did not know before. The school seemed to have no problem agreeing to test me, and my calls to them were answered promptly and were given relevant responses. I am unable to understand how it is possible that I, as a student, was able to contact the testing center about a similar issue and get it sorted out in mere days, while the ETS SSD department was unable to do it in MORE THAN THREE WEEKS. > I have made 3 calls to ETS in the last two days. Almost predictably, Ms. Hallenbeck was not at her desk for the first two. I spoke to agent #61547, who tried to handle my case and forward me to Ms. Hallenbeck. When I finally managed to contact her yesterday, there was no reason given for the delay. I was told there had been issues contacting the test center yet again, that ETS would be closed today because of a snowstorm, and that she would try to contactt the test center on Thursday. My offer to contact them myself had no effect and she said that would not help. > This, in my view, is not acceptable. I have been following all of ETS's supposed deadlines and even waiting extra for all the problems I was told we were having. I am now being told that it has been impossible to contact test centers in my city for over three weeks, when I was able to get a hold of them by dealing a phone number. I am being given no explanation as to the unavailability of my processor and I am at the risk of having wasted countless hours and a huge sum of money for application and travel to the university because of problems not only beyond my control, but also beyond my ability to understand. The score review process takes three to six weeks. Having had to deal with your response times, I assume this means at least six weeks. Even if my test could be graded in exactly three weeks, and even if somehow the test was shipped and taken this weekend on 3/10 and 3/11, my scores would still not be in by the university deadline. I cannot believe it is so hard for an international and disabled student to apply for such a standardized test as the TOEFL. > > Indiana University has E-Mailed me very recently informing me of my April 1st deadline. I have payd for my application, my audition fees, and have spent months preparing and practicing for my audition. I have spent a large sum on travel expenses for audition weekend and my contacts within the School of Music had no trouble finding ways for me to get around the campus in those two days, even though it was not their obligation in any way. I have followed all of ETS's instructions, and even though, as far as I understand, it is ETS's job to provide the test and maintain contact with the student, it is March 7th and I have yet to have my test scheduled, let alone scored. The loss of my application means the waste of a huge amount of time and money. If I do, it will be because of circumstances beyond my control and due to the SSD's response time and organization. If I lose my application to the Indiana University, I will be forced to take stronger legal measures. > > I expect there to be some way to sort out this problem and to have my scores by the April 1st deadline. I will be sending a similar complaint letter to the College Board, as their process has been equally problematic and their SSD department is giving me contradictory information. I do hope this issue will be fixed soon. > > Thank you. > > > Sincerely, > > Guillem león Vivas > ETS ID: xxxxxxxx Sincerely, Guillem León Vivas From a.vias at outlook.com Mon Mar 26 19:16:11 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 19:16:11 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Accessibility Issues Concerning Nintendo Products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey all, I don't know if you have experienced playing video games on Nintendo products. There is a huge problem. The problem is the lack of accessibility. I sent the following email below to Nintendo regarding this issue. Begin forwarded message: From: a.vias at outlook.com Date: March 26, 2018 at 3:10:16 PM EDT To: nintendo at noa.nintendo.com Subject: Accessibility Issues Concerning Nintendo Products Hey. My name is Armando. I am 17-years-old. I am a student with a disability. Today, I am going to tell you about an issue that affects people with disabilities. For example, people who are blind rely on screen-reading software. A screen-reader, from an article on Wikipedia, is a form of assistive technology (AT) which is essential to people who are blind, as well as useful to people who are visually impaired, illiterate, or have a learning disability. The Nintendo Switch, and possibly other products, on the other hand don't have a built-in screen-reader. There is this organization called the National Federation of The Blind. The headquarters is located in Baltimore, Maryland. If you would like to know more about accessibility, you can give Beth Braun, the assistant to the President a call at 410-659-9314 ext. 2369. You can check out the article about screen-readers at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_reader Note: The NFB headquarters closes at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time. If you implement accessibility features into your products, then blind people who plays video games would love you more. Thank you. Sincerely, Armando Vias From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Mon Mar 26 19:20:13 2018 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:20:13 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Accessibility Issues Concerning Nintendo Products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree we do not have accessibility! I was going to play one of those games with my nephew and cousin, but could not. I've always wanted access to them! -----Original Message----- From: Armando Vias via NABS-L Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:16 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Armando Vias Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Accessibility Issues Concerning Nintendo Products Hey all, I don't know if you have experienced playing video games on Nintendo products. There is a huge problem. The problem is the lack of accessibility. I sent the following email below to Nintendo regarding this issue. Begin forwarded message: From: a.vias at outlook.com Date: March 26, 2018 at 3:10:16 PM EDT To: nintendo at noa.nintendo.com Subject: Accessibility Issues Concerning Nintendo Products Hey. My name is Armando. I am 17-years-old. I am a student with a disability. Today, I am going to tell you about an issue that affects people with disabilities. For example, people who are blind rely on screen-reading software. A screen-reader, from an article on Wikipedia, is a form of assistive technology (AT) which is essential to people who are blind, as well as useful to people who are visually impaired, illiterate, or have a learning disability. The Nintendo Switch, and possibly other products, on the other hand don't have a built-in screen-reader. There is this organization called the National Federation of The Blind. The headquarters is located in Baltimore, Maryland. If you would like to know more about accessibility, you can give Beth Braun, the assistant to the President a call at 410-659-9314 ext. 2369. You can check out the article about screen-readers at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_reader Note: The NFB headquarters closes at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time. If you implement accessibility features into your products, then blind people who plays video games would love you more. Thank you. Sincerely, Armando Vias _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 20:56:57 2018 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:56:57 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind Message-ID: Dear All, I have a friend who has a couple of Bible translations books in print he wants in hardcopy Braille. Are there any companies or somebody who could Braille them for him? Thank you. Sincerely, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 20:59:04 2018 From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:59:04 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind Message-ID: <4BFEBE39-43D0-4941-94D3-3BC4298CDC2D@yahoo.com> Dear All, I have a friend who has a couple of books about Bible translations and theology in print he wants in hardcopy Braille. Are there any companies or somebody who could Braille them for him? Thank you. Sincerely, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 22:19:29 2018 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:19:29 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] A serious problem with required tests for university applications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03cf01d3c550$8242ae60$86c80b20$@gmail.com> Can you contact the world blind union? I wouldn't know how or who, unless you can find thme online, but maybe they can help. Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Guillem León via NABS-L Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:54 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Guillem León Subject: [NABS-L] A serious problem with required tests for university applications Hello list members, My name is Guillem Leon, and I am a 17 year old blind student from Spain. Around the end of last year, after attending a piano academy at Indiana university, I decided to do my best to apply for a Bachelor of Music degree there, and start my studies in the fall 2018 term. The application process for the university went quite smoothly, and I also decided to apply to University of Michigan. The problems started when I applied for accomodations for both the SAT (administered by College Board) and the TOEFL (administered by ETS). My accomodations were approved in the first week of January for both tests. From that moment on, it should not have been much of a problem to get the test materials shipped to a test center, take the test and send it back for review. But because of the fact that usually things are handled by a school's SSD coordinator, and there is no such thing in Spain, none of the representatives knew what to do and gave me conflicting information, making the process quite literally impossible. My university gave me a deadline for scores of April 1st. Through the Office of International Services, I managed to move that deadline to April 25th. It is March 26th. After many problems and a formal complaint letter (attached below), I managed to take the TOEFL last week. Unfortunately, that is not the case with the SAT, and even though I did also write a complaint letter to them (also attached below) they are now only giving me the option to possibly take it in Braille, even though neither I or the test center have easy access to a Braille writer, and I am not familiar with grade 2 Braille or UEB. According to them, they do not offer digital computer-based tests, although all of the practice tests on their site are in Word format and nicely marked up for accessibility. Even if I were to take that test next week, the scores will most likely not be ready by the university deadline. I have spoken to the Indiana University Office of Students with Disabilities, and they are trying to contact the College Board to confirm this information. I even had to fax the College Board a letter stating I was OK with them releasing my information to the university, and now that they seem to have responded to my complaint letter and may let me take the test, I'm scared that they will tell them that there are no problems with my case. For clarification, a representative of the College Board SSD told me my case notes were not only the longest he had seen in his life, but had also been edited by no less than 13 different representatives. It seems that if you are both international and require accomodations for disabilities, nobody knows what to do with you. University of Michigan already cancelled my application for this exact reason a couple months ago, without refunding my application and audition fees, of course. Indiana University has been understanding enough to give me extra time, but they can only do so much. Because of my extended deadlines, I am technically no longer applicable to receive a scholarship, and my family cannot possibly hope to cover the costs associated with the degree (IU estimates over $50,000). Financial aid is not available to non-US citizens. I expressly travelled to Indiana for four days in March to perform at a live audition, with all the associated costs. I mentioned to both the College Board and ETS that, if my application to IU were to be cancelled because of these issues, I would do my best to take legal action, but I do not know where to start with that as an international student. Because of incompetence on the College Board and ETS's part, this whole process may all have been in vain. Is there anything else that can be done? Failing that, what would be the most effective way to take legal action towards this matter? Quoted below are my messages to the College Board and ETS, which explain in more detail the whole process I went through. After these complaint letters, ETS rectified and allowed me to take the test at an SAT test center which had been agreeing to test me all along, and the College Board has partly started to do the same. Thank you so much for reading. Complaint letter to the College board: > I WOULD LIKE THIS E-MAIL TO BE FORWARDED TO A MANAGER/SUPERVISOR. > > Hello, > My name is Guillem león Vivas. I am a blind 17 year old student from Spain. I am applying to an American University for the fall term, and thus, I am required to take the March SAT. Unfortunately, so far, it looks like this will be not be possible, for some unacceptable reasons. Not only were there huge delays in processing (which were past your official estimations) and ignorance on the College Board side which caused issues in my SSD accomodations request, but I am now getting completely contradictory information from within the SSD department. > > My accomodations request was approved on january 4, 2018, about a month after my forms were sent. Three days after I received confirmation of this fact, on 1/11/2018, I attempted to start the registration process and found my first problem: The system did not accept my SSD number for seemingly no reason. I immediately E-Mailed the SSD department about this fact and received a reply soon after, instructing me to sign up with a random test center and no accomodations so that my SSD number could be put in later (Ref: 180108-000210). I did this and E-Mailed the SSD department again. For some unknown reason, my case was handled by another representative, and I was told to contact the standard SAT department, even though the issue was clearly with the SSD numbers. > I contacted the standard SAT department through E-Mail. The exchange did not make any sense. At first, I told them about a problem regarding the accent on the O in my last name, just to make sure I did not need it as long as it matched my college application. They responded accordingly and asked for some information regarding my SAT application. In my next E-Mail, I provided this information, and explained the main issue with the SSD, as I had been insturcted to by them in the "original inquiry" part of the form, which I assumed was the most important. Their next E-Mail completely ignored that original inquiry and kept insisting on the name problem, which I had specified had been fixed. There was no mention to my original inquiry. i responded to the E-Mail and explained the issue all over again. This E-Mail received no response. > At this point I switched to phone calls, as I thought this would make things easier. I called the Standard SAT department on 01/23/2018 and, of course, was transferred straight back to SSD. After explaining the problem again, they found the cause of my issue: the person tasked with entering the information I had provided in the paper-based form I was sent had somehow decided to ignore my second last name, and my name on file with SSD and the one I had typed into the registration form did not match. This issue, even though clearly a problem on the College Board side, had to be taken care of by sending in a name change request form. We did not have an easy way to send a Fax, so it took a bit less than a week to send the request form. This was within the deadline the representative had specified, which was actually march 8th. > I received no confirmation of the fact that the form had been received for almost two weeks, so I called in again. As it turned out, my form had been received, but had not been acted to, again for some unknown reason. A few days later my accomodations were added to my registration and that seemed to be the end of my problems, until I called in to confirm my test center. > > The College Board SSD department seems to have very little information on how to react to an international blind applicant. Since the College Board tests are not standardizd here, most of our schools are not affiliated with you and do not have an SSD coordinator. This is something your representatives did not seem to understand. I was being told by different people to find a different test center in my area, and to tell the College Board about my school because taht was the only place where I could actually take the test. I asked a representative to give me more direct information in writing and I was told I would receive an E-Mail. This E-mail never arrived. > A week later, on 01/27/2018, I got my school involved with the process. They called in and asked about testing me, and were told to send a fax saying they were willing to test me to +1 606 336 1489. This number did not work. > The next day they called again and asked for an explanation. They were given a second number, (+1) 609 771 7944, to which they sent the fax. Aftre that, they called back and asked for confirmation that everything was correct. The person they spoke to, however, said that they could not administer my test because they weren't registered. According to Code Control, the school registration process would take about two to three weeks, which was too long for the required dates, so they asked for an alternative location. We were given the information for the ES International School (ESIS), and we have been in contac with them ever since. > After explaining my situation and accomodation requirements, Adela Gavozdea of ESIS instantly gave us confirmation that they would be willing to administer my test. I called the College Board and informed them of this fact, and they told me that ESIS would have to send a "willingness to test letter" by fax, which they did that same day. > The next day, on 03/01/2018, I had to leave for the United States to perform the auditions at the Univresity I applied to. When I got there, I was told by my school that ESIS had told them that the College Board had said that it was OK for my school to test me. They called the College Board to confirm this, and were told by an agent (quite rudely accoding to them) that everything was correct and there was nothing else to be checked, and that the materials were to arrive on Wednesday. At this point, everything seemed OK, so we relaxed and waited. > > This did not last long. On Tuesday, March 6th, I received an E-Mail from Nicole Stoop, informing me that there was no test center assigned to me. I replied, explaining the situation and telling her that there had been negotiations with both ESIS and my school, and that they could test me. To my surprise and absolute disbelief, her next reply informed me that not only it was impossible for my school to test me, but that no materials had been shipped at all. I immediately called ESIS and the College Board to verify this. The former told me what I already knew: THEY were told that my school could test me and had no idea where this new information came from. The latter, after a 28 minute call, told me they literally did not know anything about this case, and that as Ms. Stoop said, it was not possible for my school to administer the test. At this point I could do nothing but wait until the next day to see if the materials arrived. They did not. > As the person who talked to my school earlier had insisted hat everything was correct and did not say where the materials had been sent, we were worried they may have been submitted to ESIS. We called them, but they could not verify this, since they cannot open up the test materials until test day. To this day we have no idea where the materials were sent, if they were sent at all. > I called the College Board again and, predictably, received the same response. I managed to obtain the reference number for the case from my school (Ref: 180228-003279), but by the time I called again, I did not manage to speak to anybody. At this point, fearing I would never get my SAT on time, I E-Mailed the university's Office of International Services asking for a waiver. I have yet to receive a response from them. > Yesterday, I called again, but only one person was there because of the snowstorm. This happened to be a supervisor, André, so I thought this would finally get cleared up. I gave him the reference number which supposedly contained the information about the shipping of the test materials (Ref: 180228003279), and he found nothing. He indicated I should call again the next day so that he could talk to the shipping department. I will be doing that later today. > > As it stands, it looks as if I will not get my SAT on time. I have no > idea how it is even possible for one department to have so much disorganization regarding one case, and how it is possible that nobody seems to be able to handle the case the same way, even though I have been providing my reference number in every call. I have practiced for months for my auditions, gone through the application process and payd application and audition fees, and even traveled to America to perform, with all the associated huge costs, after the College Board told me that everything was settled, which turned out to be untrue. I am having similar issues with ETS with the TOEFL test. These are all problems outside of my control and understanding, and if I do not manage to take my test before April 1st, which is the deadline that the university has given me, I will lose my application and will have wasted a huge amount of time and money, simply because of a lack of organization on your part. > If I lose my application, I will do what I can to take stronger legal measures. > > I hope this issue can be sorted out soon. The university's disability services will also be contacting the College Board today. I am hoping you will at least be able to give them some actual information. > > Thank you. > > > > Sincerely, > > Guillem León Vivas > SSD number: xxxxxxxxxx > SAT registration number: xxxxxxxxxx Complaint letter to ETS: > I WOULD LIKE THIS E-MAIL TO BE FORWARDED TO A MANAGER. > > Hello, > > My name is Guillem Leon Vivas, and I am a 17 year old student from Spain. I am also completely blind, and as such, I am in need of accomodations for the TOEFL. This is why I had to work with the Services for Students with Disabilities department of ETS. > I initially applied for accomodations with a "CoE: accomodations history" on 11/20/2017. On 11/28/2017, I received my initial turnaround letter. It seemed as if the CoE was not enough documentation, so I resubmitted my registration forms on 12/06/2017 with more documentation. > Almost a full month later, on 01/05/2018, I received a reply from Ms. Nora Hallenbeck, indicating that my accomodations request had been approved, and asking me for more clarification as to which ones I needed and how they could be delivered. I replied to that E-Mail on that same day providing the information you requested. > I waited for eleven days, which is way past the 3-5 business days estimate your system gives any customer. After those eleven days, on 01/16/2018, I wrote to ETS again asking for confirmation that my E-Mail had been received. Once again, I received no reply. > On 01/23/2018 I wrote to ETS again with a similar message. No longer having faith in getting a reply, I figured out a way to call ETS directly from Spain and spoke with your representatives. There was seemingly no valid reason for my E-mails not being answered other than "lots of work". I can understand that the SSD may have to deal with many cases, but I was not only asked on EVERY E-Mail to reply as soon as possible, I was also given an estimate for replies which you did not come even close to respecting. > I received an E-Mail not even 24 hours later offering me the test formats I could take. My choice had already been expressed in a previous E-Mail, but on that same day, I replied to the message and chose a full computer-based test. For the rest of the day, communication went smoothly and the test center was supposedly contacted. As soon as I indicated that I was fine with testing on a weekend, Ms. Hallenbeck stopped responding for another few days. On 01/29/2018, I was told that the test center only had Mac computers and I would have to use VoiceOver. I indicated, on that same day, that this was perfectly fine for me, as my main system is Mac OS. > I received absolutely nothing for two weeks after that. On 02/14/2018, I E-Mailed ETS again asking for an update. This E-Mail was never replied to. I called in the next day and spoke to Ms. Hallenbeck, who claimed she had not received my E-mail. She said there were some issues contacting the test center. I was quite skeptical about this, as it had already been two weeks and I found it slightly strange that you couldn't have simply called them. I was not told which test center was being contacted, and I was also told there was nothing I could do on my side. At this point I was getting seriously worried. The university which I applied to has their TOEFL and SAT deadline on February 1st, which I had not been able to comply with because of these huge delays in communication. I was already on an extended period until April 1st. > on 02/19/2018, i called again asking for an explanation. This was the first call in a series of four in the space of three days. On all instances I was told that Ms. Hallenbeck was not at her desk and nobody else seemed to have a clue about my situation. At that point I was getting ready to leave for a few days to do my piano auditions at Indiana University Bloomington. > At the same time as I was trying to fix my issues with the TOEFL, I was also having similar (if not worse) problems with the SAT. For that reason I had to contact the ES International School in Barcelona. This school, as far as I now understand, is also an ETS-approved testing center, which I did not know before. The school seemed to have no problem agreeing to test me, and my calls to them were answered promptly and were given relevant responses. I am unable to understand how it is possible that I, as a student, was able to contact the testing center about a similar issue and get it sorted out in mere days, while the ETS SSD department was unable to do it in MORE THAN THREE WEEKS. > I have made 3 calls to ETS in the last two days. Almost predictably, Ms. Hallenbeck was not at her desk for the first two. I spoke to agent #61547, who tried to handle my case and forward me to Ms. Hallenbeck. When I finally managed to contact her yesterday, there was no reason given for the delay. I was told there had been issues contacting the test center yet again, that ETS would be closed today because of a snowstorm, and that she would try to contactt the test center on Thursday. My offer to contact them myself had no effect and she said that would not help. > This, in my view, is not acceptable. I have been following all of ETS's supposed deadlines and even waiting extra for all the problems I was told we were having. I am now being told that it has been impossible to contact test centers in my city for over three weeks, when I was able to get a hold of them by dealing a phone number. I am being given no explanation as to the unavailability of my processor and I am at the risk of having wasted countless hours and a huge sum of money for application and travel to the university because of problems not only beyond my control, but also beyond my ability to understand. The score review process takes three to six weeks. Having had to deal with your response times, I assume this means at least six weeks. Even if my test could be graded in exactly three weeks, and even if somehow the test was shipped and taken this weekend on 3/10 and 3/11, my scores would still not be in by the university deadline. I cannot believe it is so hard for an international and disabled student to apply for such a standardized test as the TOEFL. > > Indiana University has E-Mailed me very recently informing me of my April 1st deadline. I have payd for my application, my audition fees, and have spent months preparing and practicing for my audition. I have spent a large sum on travel expenses for audition weekend and my contacts within the School of Music had no trouble finding ways for me to get around the campus in those two days, even though it was not their obligation in any way. I have followed all of ETS's instructions, and even though, as far as I understand, it is ETS's job to provide the test and maintain contact with the student, it is March 7th and I have yet to have my test scheduled, let alone scored. The loss of my application means the waste of a huge amount of time and money. If I do, it will be because of circumstances beyond my control and due to the SSD's response time and organization. If I lose my application to the Indiana University, I will be forced to take stronger legal measures. > > I expect there to be some way to sort out this problem and to have my scores by the April 1st deadline. I will be sending a similar complaint letter to the College Board, as their process has been equally problematic and their SSD department is giving me contradictory information. I do hope this issue will be fixed soon. > > Thank you. > > > Sincerely, > > Guillem león Vivas > ETS ID: xxxxxxxx Sincerely, Guillem León Vivas _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Tue Mar 27 21:24:45 2018 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:24:45 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind In-Reply-To: <4BFEBE39-43D0-4941-94D3-3BC4298CDC2D@yahoo.com> References: <4BFEBE39-43D0-4941-94D3-3BC4298CDC2D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8BD4C1D3011A4A78870A0B3A39C0D6AD@OwnerPC> Hi Ahbee, I think he should check with some organizations who braille bibles such as Lutheran Braille Workers. National Braille Press brailles books but not sure if they do religious material. I've gotten things brailled through them and they are great to work with. They are efficient. They will send you the print book back but cut up though since they scan the pages. HTH, Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 4:59 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Ahbee Orton Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind Dear All, I have a friend who has a couple of books about Bible translations and theology in print he wants in hardcopy Braille. Are there any companies or somebody who could Braille them for him? Thank you. Sincerely, Ahbee “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From valandkayla at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 22:31:25 2018 From: valandkayla at gmail.com (Valerie Gibson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:31:25 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind In-Reply-To: <8BD4C1D3011A4A78870A0B3A39C0D6AD@OwnerPC> References: <4BFEBE39-43D0-4941-94D3-3BC4298CDC2D@yahoo.com> <8BD4C1D3011A4A78870A0B3A39C0D6AD@OwnerPC> Message-ID: Hi, Sorry I’ve just popped in on the tail end of this, I think, but if you’re looking for religious material: http://www.braillebookstore.com/Bibles > On Mar 27, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > I think he should check with some organizations who braille bibles such as Lutheran Braille Workers. > > National Braille Press brailles books but not sure if they do religious material. > I've gotten things brailled through them and they are great to work with. They are efficient. > They will send you the print book back but cut up though since they scan the pages. > > HTH, > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 4:59 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Ahbee Orton > Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind > > Dear All, > > I have a friend who has a couple of books about Bible translations and theology in print he wants in hardcopy Braille. Are there any companies or somebody who could Braille them for him? Thank you. > > Sincerely, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/valandkayla%40gmail.com From agrima at nbp.org Wed Mar 28 12:10:29 2018 From: agrima at nbp.org (Tony Grima) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:10:29 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: <4BFEBE39-43D0-4941-94D3-3BC4298CDC2D@yahoo.com> <8BD4C1D3011A4A78870A0B3A39C0D6AD@OwnerPC> Message-ID: Hi all - NBP has a free listing of groups & people who will emboss smaller projects, at the link below. NBP is set up to handle larger projects, mostly - it'd be too expensive to you for us to emboss smaller, one-copy projects. The free listing can be ordered or downloaded here: http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IBTS.html -Tony Grima, National Braille Press -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Valerie Gibson via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:31 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Valerie Gibson Subject: Re: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind Hi, Sorry I’ve just popped in on the tail end of this, I think, but if you’re looking for religious material: http://www.braillebookstore.com/Bibles > On Mar 27, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Ahbee, > > I think he should check with some organizations who braille bibles such as Lutheran Braille Workers. > > National Braille Press brailles books but not sure if they do religious material. > I've gotten things brailled through them and they are great to work with. They are efficient. > They will send you the print book back but cut up though since they scan the pages. > > HTH, > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- From: Ahbee Orton via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 4:59 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Ahbee Orton > Subject: [NABS-L] any companies who emboss books for the Blind > > Dear All, > > I have a friend who has a couple of books about Bible translations and theology in print he wants in hardcopy Braille. Are there any companies or somebody who could Braille them for him? Thank you. > > Sincerely, > Ahbee > > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” > ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ > ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/valandkayla%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/agrima%40nbp.org From cather_dustin at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 01:41:12 2018 From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NABS-L] Get your NABS Cookbook Today! References: <293607764.563922.1522287672882.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <293607764.563922.1522287672882@mail.yahoo.com> Hello fellow students!   Question... are you looking to change your eating habits? Are you tired of the same old same old meals every day? Then you're in luck! The 3rd Annual NABS Cookbook is here! This time, with a healthy twist. That right, choose from 50 easy to make recipes ranging from smoothies to full meals that will boost your metabolism and start your day fresh. This year our cookbook has a little bit of everything for everyone that is targeted towards a healthy living. Get yours today for only $15!  Here is how you order.    Go to this link:    goo.gl/forms/q6iR6rPQW0Y31yKI3    Once on the form fill out your information with what format you want it in and which payment method you will be using. From there. you will get instructions on how to pay using your preferred payment method.    If you have any questions regarding the cookbook please direct them to Dustin Cather at cather.dustin at gmail.com or via cell phone at 309-267-7670.    Once again, we thank you for your support and hope that you choose to buy this awesome cookbook!  Best,Dustin Cather - Fundraising Chair    From nabs.president at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 18:29:17 2018 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, President, National Association of Blind Students) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:29:17 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group is live! Message-ID: <018401d3c855$03ae0d30$0b0a2790$@gmail.com> Good afternoon fam, With much excitement, I want to announce that our Facebook group is up and running! To join, click here! In the coming week, we will continue developing a brand for our group and strategize ways to generate content. For now, join, share, and tell your friends! Our blind student family is growing each and every day! Love, Kathryn Kathryn C. Webster President | National association of Blind Students A proud division of the National federation of the Blind (203) 273-8463 Nabs.president at gmail.com From a.vias at outlook.com Sat Mar 31 05:28:48 2018 From: a.vias at outlook.com (Armando Vias) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 05:28:48 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group is live! In-Reply-To: <018401d3c855$03ae0d30$0b0a2790$@gmail.com> References: <018401d3c855$03ae0d30$0b0a2790$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I just joined the group. Thanks. -- Armando L. Vias Student Founder | Blindness Awareness and More Website: www.blindnessawarenessandmoreblog.wordpress.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/baamoreblog Twitter: www.twitter.com/baamoreblog Blindness Awareness and More Feedback Line: (724) 964-2111 Blindness Awareness and More Email Address: blindnessawarenessandmore at outlook.com > On Mar 30, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Kathryn Webster, President, National Association of Blind Students via NABS-L wrote: > > Good afternoon fam, > > > > With much excitement, I want to announce that our Facebook group is up and > running! To join, click here! > > > > > In the coming week, we will continue developing a brand for our group and > strategize ways to generate content. > > For now, join, share, and tell your friends! Our blind student family is > growing each and every day! > > > > Love, > > Kathryn > > > > Kathryn C. Webster > > President | National association of Blind Students > > A proud division of the National federation of the Blind > > (203) 273-8463 > > Nabs.president at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C727ab0033dd0432e10b508d5966c554b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636580314385051083&sdata=QWz98azYTiYckp6%2F1ctz5BR9GfEaiJNzWRb32AOlrEg%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fa.vias%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C727ab0033dd0432e10b508d5966c554b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636580314385051083&sdata=w7%2B0uxzNnMQsh4gh8lcAMdRTIdEO1axJVYqBZcr6HcQ%3D&reserved=0 From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 13:02:58 2018 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:02:58 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Facebook group is live! Message-ID: <5abf871d.ef32c80a.ca4cb.e786@mx.google.com> Hi Kathryn, What's the name of the group? I'm just asking so that we'd be able to join straight from the Facebook app rather than clicking it in the browser and having to fill in all our information. Also, who are the admins of the group, and is it closed or public? Thanks so much and happy Easter weekend, Sami ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Webster, President,National Association of Blind Students via NABS-L" Hey all Please join the convention planning committee meeting is Monday at 8, 7 central ‭(712) 770-5197,,265669‬ We will have four main action items throughout the process 1. Nabs network 2. Mentoring program 3. Nabs olympics 4 exhibit hall booth Please come ready with your ideas and think about which of these four projects you are most passionate about getting involved with! Janae Burgmeier Convention planning committee chair From jldail13 at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 19:49:50 2018 From: jldail13 at gmail.com (Jessica Dail) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:49:50 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Convention planning committee In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D279D18-6855-4538-898B-A081627BA84C@gmail.com> Hi, Who can attend this meeting? I just added it to my calendar. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Janae Burgmeier via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey all > Please join the convention planning committee meeting is Monday at 8, 7 central ‭(712) 770-5197,,265669‬ > > We will have four main action items throughout the process > 1. Nabs network > 2. Mentoring program > 3. Nabs olympics > 4 exhibit hall booth > > Please come ready with your ideas and think about which of these four projects you are most passionate about getting involved with! > > Janae Burgmeier > Convention planning committee chair > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com From gutz2020 at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 20:09:03 2018 From: gutz2020 at gmail.com (Daniel Gutz) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:09:03 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] traveling to spain Message-ID: <431F0143-E009-4952-9FCA-E4BD8416C573@gmail.com> Hello students, i have just confirmed that I will be traveling to Spain this summer for a little over a month. While I am extremely excited I am also slightly nervous because I’ve never been out of the country before. I’m writing the list to ask other students about there study abroad experiences. I’m wondering if any of ya’ll have any information about Spain in regards to accessibility; are people generally helpful, are things easy to find, are blind people accepted in society, things I should, or shouldn’t do? How is traveling within the country like? Any help is greatly appreciated and if you have any study abroad tips if you’ve been to another country please chip in with experiences and things I should know. Warm regards, Dan From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com Sat Mar 31 20:24:09 2018 From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:24:09 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] traveling to spain In-Reply-To: <431F0143-E009-4952-9FCA-E4BD8416C573@gmail.com> References: <431F0143-E009-4952-9FCA-E4BD8416C573@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008401d3c92e$3a4d0100$aee70300$@sarahblakelarose.com> Congratulations, Dan. Do let us know how it goes. *wink* Will you be staying with a host family or traveling with your own university group? Rev. Sarah Blake LaRose http://www.sarahblakelarose.com Accessible instruction in Biblical languages -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Daniel Gutz via NABS-L Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 4:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Daniel Gutz Subject: [NABS-L] traveling to spain Hello students, i have just confirmed that I will be traveling to Spain this summer for a little over a month. While I am extremely excited I am also slightly nervous because I’ve never been out of the country before. I’m writing the list to ask other students about there study abroad experiences. I’m wondering if any of ya’ll have any information about Spain in regards to accessibility; are people generally helpful, are things easy to find, are blind people accepted in society, things I should, or shouldn’t do? How is traveling within the country like? Any help is greatly appreciated and if you have any study abroad tips if you’ve been to another country please chip in with experiences and things I should know. Warm regards, Dan _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sarah%40sarahblakelarose.com From matthewhgip at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 20:42:38 2018 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 13:42:38 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Convention planning committee In-Reply-To: <5D279D18-6855-4538-898B-A081627BA84C@gmail.com> References: <5D279D18-6855-4538-898B-A081627BA84C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jessica, Anyone can join committee calls; the more members the better, and it would be greatly appreciated that members join committees for NABS to help out and get involved in some capacity. I hope this makes sense. All the best, Matthew Gip President, California Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of California Phone: (559) 375-2068 Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com Live The Life You Want! > On Mar 31, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Jessica Dail via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > Who can attend this meeting? > I just added it to my calendar. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 31, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Janae Burgmeier via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hey all >> Please join the convention planning committee meeting is Monday at 8, 7 central ‭(712) 770-5197,,265669‬ >> >> We will have four main action items throughout the process >> 1. Nabs network >> 2. Mentoring program >> 3. Nabs olympics >> 4 exhibit hall booth >> >> Please come ready with your ideas and think about which of these four projects you are most passionate about getting involved with! >> >> Janae Burgmeier >> Convention planning committee chair >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jldail13%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 21:07:19 2018 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 17:07:19 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] traveling to spain In-Reply-To: <431F0143-E009-4952-9FCA-E4BD8416C573@gmail.com> References: <431F0143-E009-4952-9FCA-E4BD8416C573@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dan: That's so exciting! Like Sarah, I would be very interested in hearing how it goes. Perhaps you would consider writing a post for the NABS Blog about your experiences when you return to the States; I'm sure our outreach committee would be very interested in including your reflections. I would encourage you to contact Precious Perez, the president of our Massachussetts student division. She just completed a study abroad program in Valencia, Spain, and would have a wealth of information on both Spain and the study-abroad experience. Her contact information can be found on nabslink.org in the list of state student divisions. Have a great trip! Chris Nusbaum > On Mar 31, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Daniel Gutz via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello students, > i have just confirmed that I will be traveling to Spain this summer for a little over a month. While I am extremely excited I am also slightly nervous because I’ve never been out of the country before. I’m writing the list to ask other students about there study abroad experiences. I’m wondering if any of ya’ll have any information about Spain in regards to accessibility; are people generally helpful, are things easy to find, are blind people accepted in society, things I should, or shouldn’t do? How is traveling within the country like? Any help is greatly appreciated and if you have any study abroad tips if you’ve been to another country please chip in with experiences and things I should know. > Warm regards, > Dan > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From misokwak12 at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 22:58:47 2018 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:58:47 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] traveling to spain In-Reply-To: References: <431F0143-E009-4952-9FCA-E4BD8416C573@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dan, you also might be interested in checking out resources provided on the Mobility International USA website: www.miusa.org MIUSA supports students with disabilities studying abroad. Miso On 3/31/18, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L wrote: > Dan: > > That's so exciting! Like Sarah, I would be very interested in hearing how it > goes. Perhaps you would consider writing a post for the NABS Blog about your > experiences when you return to the States; I'm sure our outreach committee > would be very interested in including your reflections. > > I would encourage you to contact Precious Perez, the president of our > Massachussetts student division. She just completed a study abroad program > in Valencia, Spain, and would have a wealth of information on both Spain and > the study-abroad experience. Her contact information can be found on > nabslink.org in the list of state student divisions. > > Have a great trip! > > Chris Nusbaum > >> On Mar 31, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Daniel Gutz via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello students, >> i have just confirmed that I will be traveling to Spain this summer for a >> little over a month. While I am extremely excited I am also slightly >> nervous because I’ve never been out of the country before. I’m writing the >> list to ask other students about there study abroad experiences. I’m >> wondering if any of ya’ll have any information about Spain in regards to >> accessibility; are people generally helpful, are things easy to find, are >> blind people accepted in society, things I should, or shouldn’t do? How is >> traveling within the country like? Any help is greatly appreciated and if >> you have any study abroad tips if you’ve been to another country please >> chip in with experiences and things I should know. >> Warm regards, >> Dan >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > -- Miso Kwak University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor (909) 660-1897 From gutz2020 at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 23:46:26 2018 From: gutz2020 at gmail.com (Daniel Gutz) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:46:26 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] traveling to spain In-Reply-To: References: <431F0143-E009-4952-9FCA-E4BD8416C573@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92F4F8E2-AEA4-4A16-B34B-10E6109B7867@gmail.com> Hi all, Thank you all for responding. Chriss, I would absolutely love to write about my experiences while I’m over there; i’ve actually thought about blogging it, but not sure about that yet. The first week to 10 days I’m in Spain I’ll be traveling around the country and when my actual studies start, I’ll be staying with a host family. I’m semi nervous about the family and how they will react to having a blind student in there home, but I can only hope it all goes well. I specifically put on my family placement form I am blind so I think everything should be ok. Thank you all for these resources, They will help me immensely. with well-wishes, Dan. > On Mar 31, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Dan, you also might be interested in checking out resources provided > on the Mobility International USA website: > www.miusa.org > > MIUSA supports students with disabilities studying abroad. > > Miso > > On 3/31/18, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L > wrote: >> Dan: >> >> That's so exciting! Like Sarah, I would be very interested in hearing how it >> goes. Perhaps you would consider writing a post for the NABS Blog about your >> experiences when you return to the States; I'm sure our outreach committee >> would be very interested in including your reflections. >> >> I would encourage you to contact Precious Perez, the president of our >> Massachussetts student division. She just completed a study abroad program >> in Valencia, Spain, and would have a wealth of information on both Spain and >> the study-abroad experience. Her contact information can be found on >> nabslink.org in the list of state student divisions. >> >> Have a great trip! >> >> Chris Nusbaum >> >>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Daniel Gutz via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello students, >>> i have just confirmed that I will be traveling to Spain this summer for a >>> little over a month. While I am extremely excited I am also slightly >>> nervous because I’ve never been out of the country before. I’m writing the >>> list to ask other students about there study abroad experiences. I’m >>> wondering if any of ya’ll have any information about Spain in regards to >>> accessibility; are people generally helpful, are things easy to find, are >>> blind people accepted in society, things I should, or shouldn’t do? How is >>> traveling within the country like? Any help is greatly appreciated and if >>> you have any study abroad tips if you’ve been to another country please >>> chip in with experiences and things I should know. >>> Warm regards, >>> Dan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Miso Kwak > University of California, Los Angeles | 2017 > Psychology B.A. | Education Studies Minor | Disability Studies Minor > (909) 660-1897 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gutz2020%40gmail.com