[NABS-L] taking an online math course in college

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thanks all for your suggestions!

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>    4. Re: taking an online math course in college (Kassandra Cardenas)
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> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:23:08 -0400
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> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 21:36:45 -0500
> From: Ana Martinez <martinezana770 at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college
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> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an algebra
> course. although the class is face to face, the professor does everything
> online. we have an online math book and all the tests and assignments are
> online. I can't really see how accessible the course will be because I won't
> have access to the online course until next semester. personally, I learn
> better when I have things in braille, specially math. I don't think braille
> is going to be an option next semester, specially because of the course
> format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or what has worked for some
> of you in the past, as far as taking an online math course and doing algebra
> in the computer.
> thanks!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:39:53 -0400
> From: Keri Svendsen <keribcu at gmail.com>
> To: Ana Martinez via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college
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> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math
> is a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you
> fight for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study
> and braille be provided.
>
>
>
> On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote:
>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an
>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does
>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and
>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will
>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester.
>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math.
>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially
>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or
>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online
>> math course and doing algebra in the computer.
>> thanks!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:16:53 -0500
> From: Kassandra Cardenas <kassandrac at utexas.edu>
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> Hello,
>
> I was actually in this same situation a few years back--face-to-face
> lectures, online work. I personally didn't use any braille while taking the
> course, and I ended up getting an A. This obviously would have probably
> been a different case if it was geometry or trig, for example, but as there
> weren't many visual aspects to the course, I was fine.
>
> Where I did have an issue, however, was when it came to entering my answers
> into the application. The program I had was good about providing image
> descriptions, but if you had to enter answers in things other than whole
> numbers or multiple-answer choice, it was inaccessible. I ended up working
> with a grad student so they could do this for me; I'd solve the answers
> beforehand, write them down, and then meet with them so they could then
> just plug them in.
>
> Communicate with your professor, though. If something is inaccessible,
> don't try and wait a few weeks in hopes that you can figure it out; say
> something right away. Even if they can't do anything about it themselves
> and you have to go through the SSD or the developers of the program, at
> least they know that there is an issue. Make sure that you go to their
> office hours if there are concepts you don't understand. If using braille
> to complete your math is better for you, than by all means, try and obtain
> that accommodation. It is definitely doable without though, so if you won't
> be accommodated in that way, don't panic.
>
> Also, please feel free to email me separately, if you need to at any
> point--as someone who has gone through this exact situation. It is doable,
> but it did get a bit stressful for me at times.
>
> with warmth,
> -K Cardenas
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
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>> You need braille for math. Again I stress you need braille. Online math
>> is
>> a very very bad idea as a blind person, and I highly recommend you fight
>> for an academic acception to do your math as an independent study and
>> braille be provided.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/2018 10:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L wrote:
>>
>>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an
>>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does
>>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and
>>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course
>>> will
>>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester.
>>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math.
>>> I
>>> don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially
>>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or
>>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online
>>> math course and doing algebra in the computer.
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:35:57 -0700
> From: Santiago <santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] taking an online math course in college
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> Hi,
> I think it also has to do with what works for you in terms of ease of use,
> not just accessibility. For instance, hearing a bunch of math equations
> using speech only wouldn't be the easiest thing for me, especially with
> complex math. I like to be able to easily get to all parts of an equation,
> and that's unfortunately not possible with speech, since you have to
> navigate line by line, word by word, character by character, etc. Maybe it
> will work with a braille display? I've been fortunate enough to have my math
> assignments in braille, because some online systems don't seem to work well
> with screen readers.
>
> Santiago
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Ana Martinez via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an
>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does
>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and
>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will
>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester.
>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math.
>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially
>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or
>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online
>> math course and doing algebra in the computer.
>> thanks!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:59:52 -0700
> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
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> Hi Ana,
> I took math last year. I never had the online experience, but I do have some
> knowledge of using Braille only some of the time.
> My Disability Services ordered the math textbook before the course started:
> I'm not sure how far ahead of time. However, I would have the Disability
> Services read me the tests, as there was no transcriber and I do not like
> math in electronic format.
> So if you prefer Braille as I do, maybe you could try to see if they can
> order the textbook ahead of time, even if they don't have good transcribing
> facilities.
>
>
> Vejas Vasiliauskas
> Secretary and Treasurer of California Association of Blind Students
> Phone: 3102653949
> Email: alpineimagination at gmail.com
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>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 19:36, Ana Martinez via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> hi all, I would like some advice. so next semester I'll be taking an
>> algebra course. although the class is face to face, the professor does
>> everything online. we have an online math book and all the tests and
>> assignments are online. I can't really see how accessible the course will
>> be because I won't have access to the online course until next semester.
>> personally, I learn better when I have things in braille, specially math.
>> I don't think braille is going to be an option next semester, specially
>> because of the course format. I'm just looking for some suggestions, or
>> what has worked for some of you in the past, as far as taking an online
>> math course and doing algebra in the computer.
>> thanks!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:35:41 -0500
> From: Syed Rizvi <syedrizvinfb at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NABS-L] Membership Call, Sunday March 25th 8PM Eastern
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> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:25:00 +0000
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>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:36 AM, Syed Rizvi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Students,
>> Join us on Sunday, March 25th, at 8PM eastern, for our monthly membership
>> call. This month we will be hearing from Patti Chang and Anil Lewis, both
>> of whom are national leaders in our organization. They will be sharing
>> their tips and tricks on how to perform professionally as a blind student.
>> These soft skills are vital in your success, whether it's for a job
>> interview or a career related conference.
>> The call in number is ?(712) 770-5197 and the access code is 265669.
>> Have a wonderful week!
>>
>>
>> Syed Rizvi
>> 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students
>> SyedRizviNFB at GMail.com
>> 4132503523
>> ?Tough times don't last, tough people do.?-Robert Schuller
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