[NABS-L] Math query:

Roger Newell inscriptioelectronicaaustralia at gmail.com
Sat Nov 17 23:49:23 UTC 2018


You can read about it on the Hadley website here
https://www.hadley.edu/ShowCourseDetail.asp?courseid=MTH-101 It looks
far easier than any college math course, so may not be useful for you,
however Hadley also has algebra courses.

On 11/17/18, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all!
>  What field of math is that practical Math 1 course at Hadley studying? Is
> it Algebra, Calculus or simply, general math as in the math that most people
> work every day?
>
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail!
> Blessed be!!!
> Kendra Schaber,
>  Chemeketa Community College,
>  350 Org,
> Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
> National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
> Capitol Chapter,
> Salem, Oregon.
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> Phone:
> 971-599-9991
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>> On Nov 15, 2018, at 07:42, Jessica Dail <jldail13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am taking a math class through Hadley Institute for the blind and
>> visually impaired. The name of my math class is practical math one. I'm
>> stuck on a concept in less than four. I can't understand how to work with
>> partial products. Can anyone help? The way the textbook describes it is
>> very confusing to me, but that's because I never learned this concept in
>> high school.
>> Thanks for any assistance,
>>
>> Jessica
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jessica
>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>> I like that annalligy!!! I have actually concidered that one years ago
>>> myself. Believe it or not. Unfortunently, I have explored other degreese
>>> before this one and also, just as unfortunent, I have also discovered
>>> that they either are not local or they require even more math than what
>>> this degree requires. Do you know of a science degree that doesn’t
>>> envolve math? I sertainly don’t know of any. Society in the United States
>>> have made it to where you can’t become a climatologist or even any form
>>> of a scientist without having to take a lot of math. Unfortunently for
>>> those science nerds like me who are much better at science than at math,
>>> it also cuts folks like me off from being able to aquire that degree
>>> without a lot of struggle in the math department. I personally believe
>>> that there is something totally wrong here!!! What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail!
>>> Blessed be!!!
>>> Kendra Schaber,
>>> Chemeketa Community College,
>>> 350 Org,
>>> Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
>>> National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
>>> Capitol Chapter,
>>> Salem, Oregon.
>>> Home email:
>>> Redwing731 at gmail.com
>>> Chemeketa Community College Email:
>>> Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu
>>> Phone:
>>> 971-599-9991
>>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown.
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>>>
>>>> On Nov 14, 2018, at 13:20, Roger Newell via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest reconsidering your choice of a degree. If you have
>>>> always struggled with math and will likely continue to do so, you are
>>>> putting your potential for academic success at risk by undertaking a
>>>> dgree with a significant mathematical component in which much of the
>>>> material will be even more complex than what you are used to at
>>>> school. What you are attempting to do is analogous to a person who
>>>> wants to become an astronaut not being good at science—it simply won't
>>>> work and you will have lost precious time.
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/14/18, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>> I have a math query that I’m trying to solve. Starting in the winter,
>>>>> I’m
>>>>> going to start my climatology degree. The degree requires a lot of math
>>>>> and
>>>>> a lot of science. There are several factors in this one but I’m asking
>>>>> all
>>>>> over the map for advise. I’m also not planning on taking courses in the
>>>>> coming summer because of a good chance of attending the NFB National
>>>>> Convention. I was informed that the summer classes are short anyway. I
>>>>> have
>>>>> been advised against it by everyone who I discussed summer to so far.
>>>>> Because of this thing regarding summer, this gives me another much
>>>>> bigger.
>>>>> query that I’m on a quest to solve. Before I get to the query itself, I
>>>>> need
>>>>> to put some factors on the table first. I might not get all of them but
>>>>> that’s all right because I have plans to delve deeper into factors that
>>>>> I’m
>>>>> not even aware of at this time. I’ll lay out the ones that I am aware
>>>>> of
>>>>> here because I want the best advise I can get from you all giving the
>>>>> information that I include here. My first class is Math111 which is an
>>>>> Algebra class. I only go up from there. I have to take more algebra
>>>>> classes,
>>>>> calcus, statistics and the like. I might even have to go higher than
>>>>> that in
>>>>> math. I have always either struggled in math or felt as though I have
>>>>> struggled in math. I have even used a math tutor in past math classes.
>>>>> That’s even taking into account of accessable technology at the time
>>>>> and my
>>>>> math skills to begin with. One problem that I have ran into when taking
>>>>> math
>>>>> classes in the past which includes the best tech avalible at the time
>>>>> and a
>>>>> math tutor is shear burn out. I simply want to avoid as much of that as
>>>>> possible. But I also want to keep the degree moving along the way the
>>>>> whole
>>>>> time I’m in school. I don’t know how Math112 will look in terms of
>>>>> studdying
>>>>> hours, homework and so fforth. But for now, I’ll use Math111 for
>>>>> example. I
>>>>> got my updated cylabus today and it calculated that on averige, a
>>>>> student
>>>>> requires around 2 to 3 hours of homework each hour of class. Since I
>>>>> have to
>>>>> take this class for one hour each week day, that means that I have to
>>>>> put in
>>>>> around 3 to 4 hours of my day devoted to math, including the classroom
>>>>> itself. I’m not including for unforseen factors of course. I’m just
>>>>> going
>>>>> off of the numbers the cylabus gave me in print. I might be faster, I
>>>>> might
>>>>> be slower. I might even change speed depending on when I run into parts
>>>>> that
>>>>> I master quickly and then run into parts that I struggle with the whole
>>>>> time
>>>>> I’m working. But that last factor is totally unperdictable. But I have
>>>>> the
>>>>> best technology I know of and I’m trying to sort out if I’m going to
>>>>> run
>>>>> into something that is totally inaccessible before I dare attempt at
>>>>> trying
>>>>> it in the class room. I think that if it’s totally inaccessible, that
>>>>> it’s
>>>>> too late to work around it except for compleetly unforseen surprises
>>>>> that
>>>>> are also unperdictable. I’m trying to sort out as many problems ahead
>>>>> of
>>>>> time as possible so that college will be a bit smoother. One factor
>>>>> that I
>>>>> don’t know anything about yet is how my writing class will look like. I
>>>>> don’t know what it’s homework load will look like. I also don’t know my
>>>>> schedule for my writing class will be like either. In fact, I know
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> about my writing class except for the fact that it’s called Writing90.
>>>>> That’s it!!! In any case, I also need to sort out my spring schedule
>>>>> followed up by my fall of 2019 schedule so that I can get my financial
>>>>> aid
>>>>> sorted out. On top of that, there are some classes that if I don’t take
>>>>> in
>>>>> the fall, I have to wait a whole year before I can make another
>>>>> attempt. I
>>>>> have to pick my advisor at the Counseling Center to sort that factor
>>>>> out. I
>>>>> have already scheduled that appointment. But I also have classes that
>>>>> are
>>>>> shorter and only take one term to cover. I’m not sure what those
>>>>> classes are
>>>>> without looking at my degree first. I do know this, I also have a
>>>>> writing
>>>>> class that I’m taking in the winter. I also have another writing class
>>>>> that
>>>>> I’m taking in the spring term. I have the option of taking another math
>>>>> class in the spring term as well. I also have the option of taking a
>>>>> math
>>>>> class in the fall term as well. I also have the option of taking a math
>>>>> class in the spring and another math class in the fall. I also have the
>>>>> option of taking my writing class along with something else that is not
>>>>> math
>>>>> in the spring term and then saving the next math class in the fall
>>>>> term.
>>>>> Mind you, no mater the options I have listed, the writing class is a
>>>>> constant class in the winter term and the spring term. But not
>>>>> nessearily in
>>>>> the fall term. I could take a science class in the fall term along with
>>>>> a
>>>>> math class. I personally would like to take a math class in the winter
>>>>> along
>>>>> with the writing class and follow that up with my writing class and
>>>>> something else other than math in the spring term. But I’m getting
>>>>> mixed and
>>>>> unsertain feedback on which route to take. Some have suggested that I
>>>>> keep
>>>>> up with the math class but explore all of my options. Others were
>>>>> simply,
>>>>> unsure. Still others said to get a math tutor. Someone else suggested
>>>>> that I
>>>>> take something that I’m good at in the spring and go back to math in
>>>>> the
>>>>> following fall. I even got someone who is totally unsure which route to
>>>>> take. I’m going to now give this one to you guys to look over and tell
>>>>> me
>>>>> what you think. Which route do you think is best for me to avoid burn
>>>>> out
>>>>> and also keep my degree moving?
>>>>> One: Math and writing in the winter followed by a second math class
>>>>> along
>>>>> with a writing class in the spring term and then taking a third math
>>>>> class
>>>>> in the fall term?
>>>>> Two: Math and writing in the winter followed up by a writing class and
>>>>> something else in the spring and then resuming math class in the
>>>>> following
>>>>> fall term?
>>>>> I have heard both sides of the argument on which route will be best for
>>>>> me.
>>>>> Some people have reported that they do better when they get all of
>>>>> their
>>>>> math classes done at once. Others argued that they favore the break in
>>>>> between classes. I want the best inclusive feedback on this issue. What
>>>>> are
>>>>> your experiences? What do you think of all of this? Also, what is your
>>>>> advise on this cross road?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail!
>>>>> Blessed be!!!
>>>>> Kendra Schaber,
>>>>> Chemeketa Community College,
>>>>> 350 Org,
>>>>> Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
>>>>> Capitol Chapter,
>>>>> Salem, Oregon.
>>>>> Home email:
>>>>> Redwing731 at gmail.com
>>>>> Chemeketa Community College Email:
>>>>> Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu
>>>>> Phone:
>>>>> 971-599-9991
>>>>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown.
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