[NABS-L] tech for college
Leye-Shprintse Oeberg
royzlilye at gmx.com
Thu Sep 20 14:25:40 UTC 2018
בּס’ד
Maura,
Here’re some of my thoughts:
JAWS vs. NVDA: I prefer NVDA over JAWS if I’m forced to work with my PC at all, I don’t think that JAWS is worth its money.
Windows vs. Mac: I prefer Mac over Windows because the systemis stable, reliable and easy to use.
KNFB Reader vs. Seeing Ai: KNFB Reader is the best, if I had this app when I grew up I would be a super lucky girl as the bookworm which I am!
Orbit vs. Focus vs. Brailliant BI: I’d use Brailliant BI 32 or 40 as my big Braille display for Mac with VoiceOver or Focus 40 Blue if I used a Windows laptop with JAWS, Orbit would absolutely work as my portable display.
BrailleNote Touch vs. BrailleSense Polaris: I don’t see the use for these notetakers at all, I think that it’s equally easy to connect the Braille display with an iPad or iPhone.
The things which I use are the following:
Laptop (Windows with NVDA when I really need it because I don’t like to work with it at all.)
Tablet (iPad Mini 4)
Smartphone (iPhone SE)
40 cells Braille display (Focus 40 Blue)
12 cells Braille display (Esys12)
Programs: KNFB Reder, Audio Memos and Apple iWork (Pages, Keynote and Numbers).
What you need depends on what you’ll study and what you’re used to use in general. I’m a minimalist when it comes to aids and I have been that since I was a child. Good luck with your studies!
לשׁלום,
Leye-Shprintse Oeberg
Jönköping, Sweden
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> 19 sep. 2018 kl. 15:13 skrev Maura Loberg via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>:
>
> Hello all. I'd like to thank you for your responses. I would like to open the debate more towards specific devices. Since I have to do it this way, I'd like to know the following: JAWS vs. NVDA, BrailleNote Touch vs. BrailleSense Polaris, Orbit Reader 20 vs. Focus 40 vs. Brailliant-BI32 vs. others, KNFBReader vs. Seeing AI and Windows vs. Mac vs. others. What devices have helped you survive higher education? What made you decide on those pieces of tech?
> Thanks!
>
>> On Sep 18, 2018 11:33 PM, Loren Wakefield via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I believe a notetaker is essential. Which one is your preference. Also, a
>> laptop and printer will be well used. If you would use it and can afford it
>> or dcan convince your rehab to purchase it for you, a braille display would
>> be quite handy. But I'm one who believes it should be separate from you
>> notetaker.
>>
>> Another idea might be to pair a braille display with a tablet of some sort.
>> One can do this much cheaper thana a notetaker would set you back.
>>
>> Loren
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Kendra Schaber via
>> NABS-L
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:13 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Kendra Schaber <redwing731 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] tech for college
>>
>> Hi all!
>> I think the Polarous Braille Sense is more up to date as far as I know. But
>> if you are taking a lot of math, you'll need something like it along with
>> the rest of the tech.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
>> Blessed be!!!
>> Kendra Schaber
>> Chemeketa Community College,
>> 350 Org,
>> Citizen's Climate Lobby,
>> National Federation of the Blind of Oregon, Capitol Chapter, Salem, Oregon.
>> Home Email:
>> Redwing731 at gmail.com
>> Chemeketa Community College Email:
>> Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu
>> Phone:
>> 971-599-9991
>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear", Author unknown.
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>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Santiago H via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:07:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Cc: Santiago H
>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] tech for college
>>
>> Getting a BrailleNote Touch or an Orbit which can be paired to a computer or
>> an iPad are both great options, one being more expensive than the other of
>> course. Unfortunately, the BrailleNote Touch runs a version of Android from
>> 2013, and given the fast pace in technology, I'm honestly not sure how well
>> it will work in the long term with apps such as Google Docs, Sheets, and
>> Slides which are widely used today. At the very least, getting a computer, a
>> braille display, and some form of scanning software such as KNFB Reader are
>> a must though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 2:14 PM, sophie trist via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as braille displays go, it's just a matter of preference. If
>> economy is your main concern, the Orbit 20 is a great option. However, as an
>> English major, I read a TON of books. Having a 20-cell braille display would
>> drive me up the wall. But it's all about what you're looking for. What works
>> for me might not work for you.
>>>
>>> Soph
>>>
>>>> On Sep 18, 2018 3:54 PM, Louis Maher via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> The Orbit 20 allows you to enter any 6 dot or 8 dot character you like.
>> For this reason, you can enter any type of Braille required.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Louis Maher
>>>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>>>> E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com
>>>>
>>>> From: Kendra Schaber <redwing731 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:45 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Louis Maher <ljmaher03 at outlook.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] tech for college
>>>>
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> As awesome as that sounds, you have to concider what you need out of your
>> braille note taker. You might get the wrong one if you stick with the
>> cheapest one out there on the market. Bare that in mind. Are you planning on
>> taking advanced math? If so, that smaller note taker might not be the right
>> note taker for you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
>>>> Blessed be!!!
>>>> Kendra Schaber
>>>> Chemeketa Community College,
>>>> 350 Org,
>>>> Citizen's Climate Lobby,
>>>> National Federation of the Blind of Oregon, Capitol Chapter, Salem,
>>>> Oregon.
>>>> Home Email:
>>>> Redwing731 at gmail.com<mailto:Redwing731 at gmail.com>
>>>> Chemeketa Community College Email:
>>>> Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu<mailto:Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu>
>>>> Phone:
>>>> 971-599-9991
>>>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear", Author unknown.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone SE.
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>>>> From: NABS-L
>>>> <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>> on
>>>> behalf of Louis Maher via NABS-L
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:37:04 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Cc: Louis Maher
>>>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] tech for college
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> When considering a note taker, consider the Orbit 20
>> (https://www.aph.org/orbit-reader-20/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.out
>> look.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aph.org%2Forbit-reader-20%2F&data=02%7C01%7C
>> %7Cd900fcd7856543a0fedf08d61da7c528%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7
>> C0%7C636729003733357986&sdata=9Vf7ySq9yvg3HbJM7Bb9VR8jwqFDVR4jELxEUgaBS4Y%3D
>> &reserved=0>), whose $500 price is about one tenth the cost of other note
>> takers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Louis Maher
>>>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>>>> E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com<mailto:ljmaher03 at outlook.com>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NABS-L
>>>> <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Neel Sheth via NABS-L
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:04 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>
>>>> Cc: Neel Sheth
>>>> <sheth.neel.s at gmail.com<mailto:sheth.neel.s at gmail.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] tech for college
>>>>
>>>> Hello Maura,
>>>> To reiterate earlier messages, I'd also highly recommend a braille note
>> taker. It's incredibly portable, and easy to use to take comprehensive notes
>> independently without relying on speech output from a screen reader. With
>> regards to a laptop, whether you choose to use mac or windows depends both
>> on your familiarity with each, as well as your major. If you are going to be
>> studying engineering of any sort, then stick to windows. For most other
>> majors, A mac is also a solid choice. Personally, I do prefer using a mac,
>> since voiceover has a very natural feel on the mac when compared to using a
>> separate program as a screen reader. If, however, you do choose to use a
>> mac, I would highly recommend maintaining proficiency in using windows, as
>> windows is more widely used in professional settings. When in college, you
>> should also cinsider getting a printer, since I have had many professors who
>> want both an electronic and hard copy submission for assignments.
>>>>
>>>> Neel Sheth: Clemson University
>>>> Phone: 803-420-2354
>>>> sheth.neel.s at gmail.com<mailto:sheth.neel.s at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Maura Loberg via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to be entering blindness skills training and college in the
>> near future. This year, I am working on writing letters to purchase certain
>> pieces of tech. My question is, what technology did you find super useful in
>> training and/or college? Computers? Notetaking devices? Braille displays?
>> Screenreaders? Apps? I'm open to all ideas. I'm totally blind so magnifiers
>> are out of the question.
>>>>> Thanks!
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