From janae.burgmeier at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 03:14:22 2019
From: janae.burgmeier at gmail.com (Janae Burgmeier)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 21:14:22 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Outreach call
Message-ID: <969F3D81-22E7-41CE-97CE-E5FDBF710C21@gmail.com>

Good evening students
This is a friendly reminder that our next outreach call is Monday at 9pm. Eastern.   I hope everyone is all rested up after Washington seminar with new motivation to do great work. The theme for the call will be STEM so come prepared to discuss different ways we can incorporate science technology engineering and math into our structure this month.    
Call in info: 
(712) 770-5197,,265669


From armando at theblindadvocate.com  Sun Feb  3 04:47:09 2019
From: armando at theblindadvocate.com (Armando Vias)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 23:47:09 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Testing Email
Message-ID: <CAKfDFPOUKktjqzU3XT1oFz=cor2Z5u_SFe82RhFGN-3CxJn1MA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey. I'm just making sure that this list is receiving my emails from my new
professional email address.

From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  3 07:32:14 2019
From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 02:32:14 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Testing Email
In-Reply-To: <CAKfDFPOUKktjqzU3XT1oFz=cor2Z5u_SFe82RhFGN-3CxJn1MA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKfDFPOUKktjqzU3XT1oFz=cor2Z5u_SFe82RhFGN-3CxJn1MA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77FEC216-6B88-428E-AF92-52F0F78DA731@gmail.com>

Yup, it came through. :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2019, at 23:47, Armando Vias via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey. I'm just making sure that this list is receiving my emails from my new
> professional email address.
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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 21:07:52 2019
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:07:52 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] New line shortcuts not working with iphone and Braille
 display
Message-ID: <3D04F3E5-A884-4B60-BC84-D70790AD558B@gmail.com>

Hi, 
I have encountered a problem with my phone recently. When paired to a Braille display, I have not, for the past few days, been able to go to a new line by hitting "enter" or doing dots 4, 5, 6 enter and space with e. It will just keep me on the same line without advancing me to the next one. This problem is primarily occurring in both Mail and Safari. I know this is an issue with my phone, rather than the Braille display, because I have two of them and it is happening in both.
I have been getting around it for now by turning on the keyboard and hitting "return" but I miss the convenience of the new line shortcuts.
I would love to know if anyone else has had this problem and that it might be a setting I have to look at? (I've already tried turning the phone back on and off again).
Thanks,
Vejas 




From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 23:50:00 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:50:00 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder: Join NABS Outreach Call Tonight at 9 PM Eastern
Message-ID: <80582963-5D4E-4AFA-9868-804FE6508927@gmail.com>

Students, 

This is a friendly reminder that our next outreach call is tonight at 9pm. Eastern.   I hope everyone is all rested up after Washington seminar with new motivation to do great work. The theme for the call will be STEM so come prepared to discuss different ways we can incorporate science technology engineering and math into our structure this month.    
Call (712) 770-5197 followed by access code 265669. 

Best, 
Matthew Gip 
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068 
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com


From cather_dustin at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  5 00:27:08 2019
From: cather_dustin at yahoo.com (Dustin Cather)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 00:27:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Fundraising call this Sunday 2/10 at 9 PM Eastern
References: <722309447.3339983.1549326428085.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <722309447.3339983.1549326428085@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Students!
Hope all is well as we all settle down from Washington Seminar. I invite you all to join us on our monthly fundraising call which will take place this Sunday at 9 PM Eastern time. We will discuss how the events at Washington Seminar went as well as discuss future funding events as we move towards National Convention in Las Vegas! We are excited for you to join us!
 Call in number: 712 770 5197Access Code: 265669
We look forward to you joining us!
Best,Dustin Cather - Treasurer National Association of Blind Students / Chair of Fundraising committee.

From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 00:29:54 2019
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 19:29:54 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] needing some urgent help for a college assignment
Message-ID: <CAJTqpvRkpT3O2NNgr=p-3jOaNw-TSsNA6=P-no2PboynhyPAtw@mail.gmail.com>

 Good evening everyone, I hope that you are having a fabulous semester so
far, I know we are just in the third week, but I hope it’s going well for
everyone. I have a kind of interesting question for everyone tonight. I am
taking a communications class and we are doing a speech. I chose to do my
speech on the transitioning to integrated and meaningful employment act,
and was hoping that someone can give me some important statistics or
information that I can include in my speech.   I have done some research,
but I don’t think it’s enough.
 Thanks for everyone’s help,
Nesma

From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 01:36:46 2019
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 20:36:46 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] needing some urgent help for a college assignment
In-Reply-To: <CAJTqpvRkpT3O2NNgr=p-3jOaNw-TSsNA6=P-no2PboynhyPAtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJTqpvRkpT3O2NNgr=p-3jOaNw-TSsNA6=P-no2PboynhyPAtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ADA65664-418C-4D60-899D-5755EB4BEB8D@gmail.com>

Hey Nesma,

I think there's still a page on the NFB Web site with info on the TIME Act. I'll try to see what I can dig up for you. If it's not due tomorrow and you have time to contact someone, you might want to reach out to Gabe Cazares or John Pare at the national office. As always, give me a call if you need my help!  

Chris Nusbaum

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 7:29 PM, nesma aly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening everyone, I hope that you are having a fabulous semester so
> far, I know we are just in the third week, but I hope it’s going well for
> everyone. I have a kind of interesting question for everyone tonight. I am
> taking a communications class and we are doing a speech. I chose to do my
> speech on the transitioning to integrated and meaningful employment act,
> and was hoping that someone can give me some important statistics or
> information that I can include in my speech.   I have done some research,
> but I don’t think it’s enough.
> Thanks for everyone’s help,
> Nesma
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From abbydnh at icloud.com  Tue Feb  5 22:19:02 2019
From: abbydnh at icloud.com (Abby Duffy)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:19:02 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Citations
Message-ID: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>

Hi, my name is Abby Duffy, and I was just wondering if anybody had a suggestion for a better way to do MLA citations than what I’ve been doing currently. The citation generators that my school suggests me are  not accessible so I was just wondering if the only way is to make them manually.

Thanks 
Abby Duffy NH


From schoi09 at outlook.com  Tue Feb  5 22:29:24 2019
From: schoi09 at outlook.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 22:29:24 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Citations
In-Reply-To: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
References: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR2201MB15633FAFF95DCDE819F42E3BAB6E0@DM5PR2201MB1563.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Hello Abby,
Glad you asked. There are plenty of online citation generators that are both accessible and easy to use. I found these generators to be reliable and definitely more accurate, especially in terms of formatting and I don’t think it makes any difference compared to manual citations.. KnightCite I know has been around for quite some time but I use Easybib as it includes MLA 8 standard. I will include the direct link below if you are interested in trying it out for yourself. The only main complaint for me was its overwhelming clutters, mainly ads that tend to scatter, interfering with screen-reader.
http://www.easybib.com/mla-format/website-citation

Regards
Seyoon,


On Feb 5, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Abby Duffy via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Hi, my name is Abby Duffy, and I was just wondering if anybody had a suggestion for a better way to do MLA citations than what I’ve been doing currently. The citation generators that my school suggests me are  not accessible so I was just wondering if the only way is to make them manually.

Thanks
Abby Duffy NH

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From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 22:33:40 2019
From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:33:40 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Citations
In-Reply-To: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
References: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAD23B-B1F5-4379-A021-833DF77160AF@gmail.com>

Hi Abby,
I have found easybib to be generally accessible. the website works best with JAWS and IE... you have to play with it a little, but it gets the job done.
Hope that helps!
Best,


Mausam Mehta
University of Virginia class of 2022
Secretary | Virginia Association of Blind Students
Board member | National Association of blind students
A proud division of the National Federation of the blind
(540) 466-6033
mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com
|
www.nabslink.org

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, Abby Duffy via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi, my name is Abby Duffy, and I was just wondering if anybody had a suggestion for a better way to do MLA citations than what I’ve been doing currently. The citation generators that my school suggests me are  not accessible so I was just wondering if the only way is to make them manually.
> 
> Thanks 
> Abby Duffy NH
> 
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From abbydnh at icloud.com  Tue Feb  5 22:40:05 2019
From: abbydnh at icloud.com (Abby Duffy)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:40:05 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Citations
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR2201MB15633FAFF95DCDE819F42E3BAB6E0@DM5PR2201MB1563.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
	<DM5PR2201MB15633FAFF95DCDE819F42E3BAB6E0@DM5PR2201MB1563.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <705CBBCA-9E37-4A62-A053-2E9A78F3E3BE@icloud.com>

Thanks so much, I just looked into easy bib some and it looks like it’ll work  grait for what I’m doing.

Thanks again 
Abby Duffy 

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Seyoon Choi <schoi09 at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Abby,
> Glad you asked. There are plenty of online citation generators that are both accessible and easy to use. I found these generators to be reliable and definitely more accurate, especially in terms of formatting and I don’t think it makes any difference compared to manual citations.. KnightCite I know has been around for quite some time but I use Easybib as it includes MLA 8 standard. I will include the direct link below if you are interested in trying it out for yourself. The only main complaint for me was its overwhelming clutters, mainly ads that tend to scatter, interfering with screen-reader.
> http://www.easybib.com/mla-format/website-citation
> 
> Regards
> Seyoon,
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Abby Duffy via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, my name is Abby Duffy, and I was just wondering if anybody had a suggestion for a better way to do MLA citations than what I’ve been doing currently. The citation generators that my school suggests me are  not accessible so I was just wondering if the only way is to make them manually.
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Abby Duffy NH
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/schoi09%40outlook.com
> 

From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 23:22:05 2019
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 18:22:05 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Citations
In-Reply-To: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
References: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <034601d4bda9$9c039470$d40abd50$@gmail.com>

this is how to do them on the pc.
 Justin
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To: Nabs <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Abby Duffy <abbydnh at icloud.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] Citations

Hi, my name is Abby Duffy, and I was just wondering if anybody had a suggestion for a better way to do MLA citations than what I’ve been doing currently. The citation generators that my school suggests me are  not accessible so I was just wondering if the only way is to make them manually.

Thanks 
Abby Duffy NH

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From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 23:32:40 2019
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 18:32:40 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Citations
In-Reply-To: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
References: <4EE5EEB0-FF6D-480D-8772-CAD1B9E3F2EE@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <346AA030-34B7-4488-8D70-5BBCC963C23C@gmail.com>

Hi Abby:

It's so great to see you on this list! Many of us know your mom as a resourceful advocate and enthusiastic leader in our parents' division, but the fact that you are getting involved in the NFB on your own terms is a great source of pride and happiness for me and for many other NFB members!

Back to your question, I haven't used it in a while, but I believe Citation Machine is accessible. BibMe is also a good one, though its accessibility seems not to be consistent from update to update. I know this isn't quite as easy as an automatic citation generator, but I think the best and most reliable way to cite sources in MLA is to get an MLA template and fill the information you need into the appropriate spaces. The Purdue OWL (Online Writing Lab) has a wonderful resource for this purpose. They have a template which has the entire citation in the correct format, meaning that you only have to fill the information in. For example, replace the word "title" in the template with the title of the book or article you are citing. When I found this template, I copied it from the OWL Web site and pasted it into a Word document so I could save it for whenever I need it. When you need to put a citation in a paper, just fill out the template and paste it into your paper. Feel free to email me off-list or give me a call if you need more help. Again, welcome to NABS! 

Chris Nusbaum

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, Abby Duffy via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi, my name is Abby Duffy, and I was just wondering if anybody had a suggestion for a better way to do MLA citations than what I’ve been doing currently. The citation generators that my school suggests me are  not accessible so I was just wondering if the only way is to make them manually.
> 
> Thanks 
> Abby Duffy NH
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From armando at theblindadvocate.com  Wed Feb  6 00:34:20 2019
From: armando at theblindadvocate.com (Armando Vias)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 19:34:20 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Introduction
Message-ID: <CAKfDFPOMopeR4pBr3Z3tFsHCaCh3qb3jSDox3yufQ4vVhhAZmw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey. Since there is new members on this list, I am going to introduce
myself. My name is Armando. I am a high school student. I like to blog,
(check signature for the link). I like to make YouTube videos as well. I
don't know what else to say. I like to make new friends as well. Hope to
hear from you soon.
-- 
Armando Vias
Student
Email: armando at theblindadvocate.com
Website: https://theblindadvocate.wordpress.com
Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocate

"WE ARE THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND, AND WE CANNOT BE SHUT DOWN!"
-Mark A. Riccobono

"The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day, we raise the
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
blindness is not what holds you back. Together, with love, hope, and
determination, we transform dreams into reality."
Website: www.nfb.org

Are you a blind student? Visit this website to learn about the National
Association of Blind Students, (NABS), a division of the National
Federation of the Blind. https://nabslink.org
To find your student division, visit
https://nabslink.org/content/contact-our-state-divisions

From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 01:04:50 2019
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (simon bonenfant)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 20:04:50 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google slides
Message-ID: <5c5a32b8.1c69fb81.a9301.1190@mx.google.com>

Hey All.  I'm wondering if the google slides application is accessible with Jaws. 
Thanks. 
Simon. 
Sent from my braille note touch. 

From armando at theblindadvocate.com  Wed Feb  6 01:08:34 2019
From: armando at theblindadvocate.com (Armando Vias)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 20:08:34 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google slides
In-Reply-To: <5c5a32b8.1c69fb81.a9301.1190@mx.google.com>
References: <5c5a32b8.1c69fb81.a9301.1190@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAKfDFPMPdsRi9BNNTTmKehP_4aoz2gv_Bpb6JirxqZ=yO1AUYA@mail.gmail.com>

What web browser are you going to use with Google Slides?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 8:06 PM simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
Hey All.  I'm wondering if the google slides application is accessible with
Jaws.
Thanks.
Simon.
Sent from my braille note touch.
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-- 
Armando Vias
Student
Email: armando at theblindadvocate.com
Website: https://theblindadvocate.wordpress.com
Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocate

"WE ARE THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND, AND WE CANNOT BE SHUT DOWN!"
-Mark A. Riccobono

"The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day, we raise the
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
blindness is not what holds you back. Together, with love, hope, and
determination, we transform dreams into reality."
Website: www.nfb.org

Are you a blind student? Visit this website to learn about the National
Association of Blind Students, (NABS), a division of the National
Federation of the Blind.https://nabslink.org
To find your student division, visit
https://nabslink.org/content/contact-our-state-divisions

From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 01:16:46 2019
From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago H)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:16:46 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Google slides
In-Reply-To: <CAKfDFPMPdsRi9BNNTTmKehP_4aoz2gv_Bpb6JirxqZ=yO1AUYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c5a32b8.1c69fb81.a9301.1190@mx.google.com>
	<CAKfDFPMPdsRi9BNNTTmKehP_4aoz2gv_Bpb6JirxqZ=yO1AUYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <171978E5-9E07-4F58-9033-2444B2FFBC7A@gmail.com>

Hello, 
I've used Google Slides with JAWS and Chrome on Windows, and VoiceOver and Chrome on macOS, and it seems to work just fine. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What web browser are you going to use with Google Slides?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 8:06 PM simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> Hey All.  I'm wondering if the google slides application is accessible with
> Jaws.
> Thanks.
> Simon.
> Sent from my braille note touch.
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Armando Vias
> Student
> Email: armando at theblindadvocate.com
> Website: https://theblindadvocate.wordpress.com
> Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocate
> 
> "WE ARE THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND, AND WE CANNOT BE SHUT DOWN!"
> -Mark A. Riccobono
> 
> "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day, we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you back. Together, with love, hope, and
> determination, we transform dreams into reality."
> Website: www.nfb.org
> 
> Are you a blind student? Visit this website to learn about the National
> Association of Blind Students, (NABS), a division of the National
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> To find your student division, visit
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From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 22:37:32 2019
From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 17:37:32 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Midwest Student Seminar
Message-ID: <CAOpEY1fVEEa_uh38+=ZjVN7m33PO1KtJqwKR3D2k1j=gJUFkYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Nabsters! Hope all of y'all are settling back into the groove of
classes, homework, and no sleep. Whoa, the mood just got real.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel! Come to the Midwest student
seminar, hosted by the Illinois affiliate and the Illinois Association
of Blind Students, this March, in windy Chicago!!!
When: March 15 through 17, 2019.
Where: Holiday Inn O'Hare, 5615 N. Cumberland Avenue, Chicago, IL 60631
Why: to spend a weekend full of advocacy, learning, and fun with your
fellow NABS buddies!


The cost for registration to attend is $60.
To reserve a room at the hotel, call 773-693-5800. Mention NFB of
Illinois to get the special group rate!

For more detailed information about the seminar, follow this link:
https://www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar

To register, click:
https://www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar/registration
Registration closes on Friday, Feb 15, so act fast!

Hope to see you there!
Best,

-- 
Mausam Mehta
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National federation of the Blind
(540) 466-6033
mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com
www.nabslink.org


From annajee82 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 23:10:18 2019
From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 18:10:18 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Midwest Student Seminar
In-Reply-To: <CAOpEY1fVEEa_uh38+=ZjVN7m33PO1KtJqwKR3D2k1j=gJUFkYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOpEY1fVEEa_uh38+=ZjVN7m33PO1KtJqwKR3D2k1j=gJUFkYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6AEED517-6554-4D77-A339-19067C53186C@gmail.com>

Thanks for this info. It looks like a good opportunity. 
However, this is super confusing as to who is doing the seminar and how much it costs. Different things have been sent to different places with differing information. 

Additionally, the cost of registration is high and cost of seminar will be prohibitive to a number of students that I could send. Trying to get help from VR agencies, even if possible, will be virtually impossible by February 15 for a number of them as well. 
What scholarships are offered; and how to extend the deadline as it is less than two weeks away?

Thanks,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Mausam Mehta via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey Nabsters! Hope all of y'all are settling back into the groove of
> classes, homework, and no sleep. Whoa, the mood just got real.
> There is a light at the end of the tunnel! Come to the Midwest student
> seminar, hosted by the Illinois affiliate and the Illinois Association
> of Blind Students, this March, in windy Chicago!!!
> When: March 15 through 17, 2019.
> Where: Holiday Inn O'Hare, 5615 N. Cumberland Avenue, Chicago, IL 60631
> Why: to spend a weekend full of advocacy, learning, and fun with your
> fellow NABS buddies!
> 
> 
> The cost for registration to attend is $60.
> To reserve a room at the hotel, call 773-693-5800. Mention NFB of
> Illinois to get the special group rate!
> 
> For more detailed information about the seminar, follow this link:
> https://www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar
> 
> To register, click:
> https://www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar/registration
> Registration closes on Friday, Feb 15, so act fast!
> 
> Hope to see you there!
> Best,
> 
> -- 
> Mausam Mehta
> Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
> A proud division of the National federation of the Blind
> (540) 466-6033
> mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com
> www.nabslink.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 23:15:41 2019
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster | National Student President)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 18:15:41 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Midwest Student Seminar
In-Reply-To: <6AEED517-6554-4D77-A339-19067C53186C@gmail.com>
References: <CAOpEY1fVEEa_uh38+=ZjVN7m33PO1KtJqwKR3D2k1j=gJUFkYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<6AEED517-6554-4D77-A339-19067C53186C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005101d4be71$e1c08720$a5419560$@gmail.com>

Dear Anna,

Thank you for your message! The initial email message had some
misinformation presented. Registration is $70, inclusive of meals for
breakfast, lunch, and dinner Saturday, as well as breakfast on Sunday.

The seminar is hosted by NABS and the Illinois affiliate. We are happen to
help students financially on a case-by-case basis. 

Finally, we have been working closely with state agencies to ensure they
received information ahead of time and can understand the need for such an
event.

I am more than happy to answer any other questions you may have!

Thanks and love,
Kathryn

Kathryn C. Webster
President | National Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
Work: 410-417-8360
Nabs.president at gmail.com | www.nabslink.org | @nabslink

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Anna Givens via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:10 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Anna Givens <annajee82 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Midwest Student Seminar

Thanks for this info. It looks like a good opportunity. 
However, this is super confusing as to who is doing the seminar and how much
it costs. Different things have been sent to different places with differing
information. 

Additionally, the cost of registration is high and cost of seminar will be
prohibitive to a number of students that I could send. Trying to get help
from VR agencies, even if possible, will be virtually impossible by February
15 for a number of them as well. 
What scholarships are offered; and how to extend the deadline as it is less
than two weeks away?

Thanks,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Mausam Mehta via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hey Nabsters! Hope all of y'all are settling back into the groove of 
> classes, homework, and no sleep. Whoa, the mood just got real.
> There is a light at the end of the tunnel! Come to the Midwest student 
> seminar, hosted by the Illinois affiliate and the Illinois Association 
> of Blind Students, this March, in windy Chicago!!!
> When: March 15 through 17, 2019.
> Where: Holiday Inn O'Hare, 5615 N. Cumberland Avenue, Chicago, IL 
> 60631
> Why: to spend a weekend full of advocacy, learning, and fun with your 
> fellow NABS buddies!
> 
> 
> The cost for registration to attend is $60.
> To reserve a room at the hotel, call 773-693-5800. Mention NFB of 
> Illinois to get the special group rate!
> 
> For more detailed information about the seminar, follow this link:
> https://www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar
> 
> To register, click:
> https://www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar/registra
> tion Registration closes on Friday, Feb 15, so act fast!
> 
> Hope to see you there!
> Best,
> 
> --
> Mausam Mehta
> Board Member | National Association of Blind Students A proud division 
> of the National federation of the Blind
> (540) 466-6033
> mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com
> www.nabslink.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
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NABS-L:
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om



From blindtecheverything at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 00:39:25 2019
From: blindtecheverything at gmail.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 18:39:25 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] PDF Conversion on the Mac
Message-ID: <13B73B3A-4ADC-427D-A3CD-179B94847CB5@gmail.com>

Greetings nabsters,
Perhaps this was brought up in the past so my apologies in advance for bringing this convo back in a new thread. I have a PDF Doc of national honor society application that I need to fill out and am looking for ways to convert this into a word document, preferably with its formatting and overall contents/structures of the document intact. I can confirm that at least the document is an accessible, electronic PDF instead of a scanned image, thank goodness!! I’m on a Mac and have both iWork and Microsoft Office 365 sweets installed, so lots of word processing flexibility there.
Any suggestions are welcome by the way, so please feel free to reply with whatever you think I should attempt.

Thanks,
Seyoon,

From cassandradamstra at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 00:47:51 2019
From: cassandradamstra at gmail.com (Cassandra Damstra)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:47:51 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] PDF Conversion on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <13B73B3A-4ADC-427D-A3CD-179B94847CB5@gmail.com>
References: <13B73B3A-4ADC-427D-A3CD-179B94847CB5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAGWLMYhBthV5OgQTDOrh08BbVsnweKkTSRcep_SsGzuizAaXw@mail.gmail.com>

https://robobraille.org/

is an amazing conversion website that can convert to so many different
formats. Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Cassandra Damstra

On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 19:40, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Greetings nabsters,
> Perhaps this was brought up in the past so my apologies in advance for
> bringing this convo back in a new thread. I have a PDF Doc of national
> honor society application that I need to fill out and am looking for ways
> to convert this into a word document, preferably with its formatting and
> overall contents/structures of the document intact. I can confirm that at
> least the document is an accessible, electronic PDF instead of a scanned
> image, thank goodness!! I’m on a Mac and have both iWork and Microsoft
> Office 365 sweets installed, so lots of word processing flexibility there.
> Any suggestions are welcome by the way, so please feel free to reply with
> whatever you think I should attempt.
>
> Thanks,
> Seyoon,
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
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>

From redwing731 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 00:51:47 2019
From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 16:51:47 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Math textbooks produced by Pierson Publishing:
Message-ID: <BBFD77A3-3810-4889-9980-74696DB6DDDB@gmail.com>

Hi all! 
 I have to take a lot of math classess for my climatology studdies. I’m trying to make math content more accessible and more efficient. Part of my explorations are with My Math Lab. Many of the math teachers here at my local community college use textbooks that are produced by Pierson Publishing. Does anyone know if their textbooks are accessible? If they are, what are the best ways to use their textbooks? 


Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail! 
Blessed be!!! 
Kendra Schaber, 
 Chemeketa Community College, 
 350 Org, 
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,    
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,  
Capitol Chapter, 
Salem, Oregon. 
 Home email: 
Redwing731 at gmail.com 
 Chemeketa Community College Email: 
 Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu  
Phone: 
971-599-9991 
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown. 
 Sent From My iPhone SE. 
 Sent from My Gmail Email. 
 Get Outlook Express for IOS.    
 

From blindtecheverything at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 01:02:26 2019
From: blindtecheverything at gmail.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:02:26 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] PDF Conversion on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <CAAGWLMYhBthV5OgQTDOrh08BbVsnweKkTSRcep_SsGzuizAaXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13B73B3A-4ADC-427D-A3CD-179B94847CB5@gmail.com>
	<CAAGWLMYhBthV5OgQTDOrh08BbVsnweKkTSRcep_SsGzuizAaXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD94ED7C-3B15-4EC3-A0BE-B1DA92AE4537@gmail.com>

Thanks! Just bookmarked the site on my Safari and could guaranty you that I’ll be using it a lot. The conversion process was fast and easy. My only problem is that the converted word doc has an odd foreign languages in them for whatever reason or it seems like it since the voice converts to them. Not sure if this is a flaw or a glitch but overall very content with its outcome.
Oh and nothing is ever perfect so there is that.

Thanks, :)
Seyoon

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Cassandra Damstra via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> https://robobraille.org/
> 
> is an amazing conversion website that can convert to so many different
> formats. Hope this helps!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Cassandra Damstra
> 
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 19:40, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings nabsters,
>> Perhaps this was brought up in the past so my apologies in advance for
>> bringing this convo back in a new thread. I have a PDF Doc of national
>> honor society application that I need to fill out and am looking for ways
>> to convert this into a word document, preferably with its formatting and
>> overall contents/structures of the document intact. I can confirm that at
>> least the document is an accessible, electronic PDF instead of a scanned
>> image, thank goodness!! I’m on a Mac and have both iWork and Microsoft
>> Office 365 sweets installed, so lots of word processing flexibility there.
>> Any suggestions are welcome by the way, so please feel free to reply with
>> whatever you think I should attempt.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Seyoon,
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>> 
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cassandradamstra%40gmail.com
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 01:19:16 2019
From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago Hernandez)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 17:19:16 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Math textbooks produced by Pierson Publishing:
In-Reply-To: <BBFD77A3-3810-4889-9980-74696DB6DDDB@gmail.com>
References: <BBFD77A3-3810-4889-9980-74696DB6DDDB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14E9ACC9-F697-4A92-A3AD-7E2648FC118B@gmail.com>

Hello, 
I've used Pearson online textbooks for a couple of classes, and they were all fully accessible. When it comes to math, some textbooks choose to use something called MathML which simply makes math content easier to use with screen readers. In cases like these, I've had the best experience with JAWS version 2019, and Google Chrome. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all! 
> I have to take a lot of math classess for my climatology studdies. I’m trying to make math content more accessible and more efficient. Part of my explorations are with My Math Lab. Many of the math teachers here at my local community college use textbooks that are produced by Pierson Publishing. Does anyone know if their textbooks are accessible? If they are, what are the best ways to use their textbooks? 
> 
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail! 
> Blessed be!!! 
> Kendra Schaber, 
> Chemeketa Community College, 
> 350 Org, 
> Citizen’s Climate Lobby,    
> National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,  
> Capitol Chapter, 
> Salem, Oregon. 
> Home email: 
> Redwing731 at gmail.com 
> Chemeketa Community College Email: 
> Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu  
> Phone: 
> 971-599-9991 
> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown. 
> Sent From My iPhone SE. 
> Sent from My Gmail Email. 
> Get Outlook Express for IOS.    
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From carlymih at comcast.net  Thu Feb  7 01:32:39 2019
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:32:39 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Math textbooks produced by Pierson Publishing:
In-Reply-To: <BBFD77A3-3810-4889-9980-74696DB6DDDB@gmail.com>
References: <BBFD77A3-3810-4889-9980-74696DB6DDDB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.338.1772982286.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Hi, Kendera and all,

In elementary school, I remember many textbooks 
had that publisher written on the inside covers, 
so if that publisher is still kickin',wouldn't 
their materials still be accessable?
CarAt 04:51 PM 2/6/2019, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L wrote:
>Hi all! I have to take a lot of math classess 
>for my climatology studdies. I’m trying to 
>make math content more accessible and more 
>efficient. Part of my explorations are with My 
>Math Lab. Many of the math teachers here at my 
>local community college use textbooks that are 
>produced by Pierson Publishing. Does anyone know 
>if their textbooks are accessible? If they are, 
>what are the best ways to use their textbooks? 
>Thank you for taking the time to read this E 
>Mail! Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber, Chemeketa 
>Community College, 350 Org, Citizen’s Climate 
>Lobby,    National Federation of the Blind of 
>Oregon,  Capitol Chapter, Salem, Oregon. Home 
>email: Redwing731 at gmail.com Chemeketa Community 
>College Email: Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu  Phone: 
>971-599-9991 "When the student is ready, the 
>teacher will appear" Author Unknown. Sent From 
>My iPhone SE. Sent from My Gmail Email. Get 
>Outlook Express for 
>IOS. 
>_______________________________________________ 
>NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org 
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org 
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get 
>your account info for NABS-L: 
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net




From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 01:39:12 2019
From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago Hernandez)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 17:39:12 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Math textbooks produced by Pierson Publishing:
In-Reply-To: <5c5b8afa.1c69fb81.16e55.1e5bSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
References: <BBFD77A3-3810-4889-9980-74696DB6DDDB@gmail.com>
	<5c5b8afa.1c69fb81.16e55.1e5bSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <F110701D-D85E-4AF4-82B1-BCE1DC30D510@gmail.com>

Hi all, 
Well, it depends. Publishers are now developing online interactive versions of their textbooks. Unfortunately, not all have chosen to make accessibility a priority. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Carly Mihalakis via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Kendera and all,
> 
> In elementary school, I remember many textbooks had that publisher written on the inside covers, so if that publisher is still kickin',wouldn't their materials still be accessable?
> CarAt 04:51 PM 2/6/2019, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all! I have to take a lot of math classess for my climatology studdies. I’m trying to make math content more accessible and more efficient. Part of my explorations are with My Math Lab. Many of the math teachers here at my local community college use textbooks that are produced by Pierson Publishing. Does anyone know if their textbooks are accessible? If they are, what are the best ways to use their textbooks? Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail! Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber, Chemeketa Community College, 350 Org, Citizen’s Climate Lobby,    National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,  Capitol Chapter, Salem, Oregon. Home email: Redwing731 at gmail.com Chemeketa Community College Email: Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu  Phone: 971-599-9991 "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown. Sent From My iPhone SE. Sent from My Gmail Email. Get Outlook Express for IOS. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From dwiniecki at handid.org  Thu Feb  7 02:47:28 2019
From: dwiniecki at handid.org (Donald Winiecki)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:47:28 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Math textbooks produced by Pierson Publishing:
In-Reply-To: <F110701D-D85E-4AF4-82B1-BCE1DC30D510@gmail.com>
References: <BBFD77A3-3810-4889-9980-74696DB6DDDB@gmail.com>
	<5c5b8afa.1c69fb81.16e55.1e5bSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
	<F110701D-D85E-4AF4-82B1-BCE1DC30D510@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD5OMmEXE4qZmbFcgXow6v5QQ1+pZjTPsNLp4+r1+m61U03h0w@mail.gmail.com>

Peirson Publishing has produced some of the most accessible (to screen
readers) instructional content now available.

If you have difficulty with any of their materials, contact them directly.
I know people at Pierson and they really want to make it fully accessible.

_don


On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 6:40 PM Santiago Hernandez via NABS-L <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Well, it depends. Publishers are now developing online interactive
> versions of their textbooks. Unfortunately, not all have chosen to make
> accessibility a priority.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Carly Mihalakis via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kendera and all,
> >
> > In elementary school, I remember many textbooks had that publisher
> written on the inside covers, so if that publisher is still
> kickin',wouldn't their materials still be accessable?
> > CarAt 04:51 PM 2/6/2019, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L wrote:
> >> Hi all! I have to take a lot of math classess for my climatology
> studdies. I’m trying to make math content more accessible and more
> efficient. Part of my explorations are with My Math Lab. Many of the math
> teachers here at my local community college use textbooks that are produced
> by Pierson Publishing. Does anyone know if their textbooks are accessible?
> If they are, what are the best ways to use their textbooks? Thank you for
> taking the time to read this E Mail! Blessed be!!! Kendra Schaber,
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From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 04:59:04 2019
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 23:59:04 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] PDF Conversion on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <CD94ED7C-3B15-4EC3-A0BE-B1DA92AE4537@gmail.com>
References: <13B73B3A-4ADC-427D-A3CD-179B94847CB5@gmail.com>
	<CAAGWLMYhBthV5OgQTDOrh08BbVsnweKkTSRcep_SsGzuizAaXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CD94ED7C-3B15-4EC3-A0BE-B1DA92AE4537@gmail.com>
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Hi Seyoon:

Here's another RoboBraille tip which might be helpful to you. Most of the time, I use RoboBraille's email feature when I need something converted. All you have to do is send an email to convert at robobraille.org with the unconverted file attached, and write in the subject line the format you want your file to be converted to. For emample, you might attach a PDF file and put "DOCX" in the subject line. Within a few minutes you will receive an email with the  converted file. Hope this helps! 

Chris Nusbaum

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks! Just bookmarked the site on my Safari and could guaranty you that I’ll be using it a lot. The conversion process was fast and easy. My only problem is that the converted word doc has an odd foreign languages in them for whatever reason or it seems like it since the voice converts to them. Not sure if this is a flaw or a glitch but overall very content with its outcome.
> Oh and nothing is ever perfect so there is that.
> 
> Thanks, :)
> Seyoon
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Cassandra Damstra via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> https://robobraille.org/
>> 
>> is an amazing conversion website that can convert to so many different
>> formats. Hope this helps!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Cassandra Damstra
>> 
>> On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 19:40, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings nabsters,
>>> Perhaps this was brought up in the past so my apologies in advance for
>>> bringing this convo back in a new thread. I have a PDF Doc of national
>>> honor society application that I need to fill out and am looking for ways
>>> to convert this into a word document, preferably with its formatting and
>>> overall contents/structures of the document intact. I can confirm that at
>>> least the document is an accessible, electronic PDF instead of a scanned
>>> image, thank goodness!! I’m on a Mac and have both iWork and Microsoft
>>> Office 365 sweets installed, so lots of word processing flexibility there.
>>> Any suggestions are welcome by the way, so please feel free to reply with
>>> whatever you think I should attempt.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Seyoon,
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From 1008jmd at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 05:01:37 2019
From: 1008jmd at gmail.com (John Dowling)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 00:01:37 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] PDF Conversion on the Mac
In-Reply-To: <CD94ED7C-3B15-4EC3-A0BE-B1DA92AE4537@gmail.com>
References: <13B73B3A-4ADC-427D-A3CD-179B94847CB5@gmail.com>
	<CAAGWLMYhBthV5OgQTDOrh08BbVsnweKkTSRcep_SsGzuizAaXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CD94ED7C-3B15-4EC3-A0BE-B1DA92AE4537@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E4CFD1D9-8999-4E19-84CB-DD1B88F6B327@gmail.com>

Hey Seyoon,Didn't know you were on here.
Another method I use is docuScan plus.
It's great if you can afford it, but that website seems cool, I'll have to check that one out myself.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks! Just bookmarked the site on my Safari and could guaranty you that I’ll be using it a lot. The conversion process was fast and easy. My only problem is that the converted word doc has an odd foreign languages in them for whatever reason or it seems like it since the voice converts to them. Not sure if this is a flaw or a glitch but overall very content with its outcome.
> Oh and nothing is ever perfect so there is that.
> 
> Thanks, :)
> Seyoon
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Cassandra Damstra via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> https://robobraille.org/
>> 
>> is an amazing conversion website that can convert to so many different
>> formats. Hope this helps!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Cassandra Damstra
>> 
>> On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 19:40, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings nabsters,
>>> Perhaps this was brought up in the past so my apologies in advance for
>>> bringing this convo back in a new thread. I have a PDF Doc of national
>>> honor society application that I need to fill out and am looking for ways
>>> to convert this into a word document, preferably with its formatting and
>>> overall contents/structures of the document intact. I can confirm that at
>>> least the document is an accessible, electronic PDF instead of a scanned
>>> image, thank goodness!! I’m on a Mac and have both iWork and Microsoft
>>> Office 365 sweets installed, so lots of word processing flexibility there.
>>> Any suggestions are welcome by the way, so please feel free to reply with
>>> whatever you think I should attempt.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Seyoon,
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 14:12:03 2019
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (simon bonenfant)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 09:12:03 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] PDF Conversion on the Mac
Message-ID: <5c5c3cca.1c69fb81.f7813.cc39@mx.google.com>

Isn't that scamning application you mentioned a part of system access? 
Thanks. 
Simon. 
Sent from my braille note touch.

On Feb 7, 2019 12:01 AM, John Dowling via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Seyoon,Didn't know you were on here.
> Another method I use is docuScan plus.
> It's great if you can afford it, but that website seems cool, I'll have to check that one out myself.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks! Just bookmarked the site on my Safari and could guaranty you that I’ll be using it a lot. The conversion process was fast and easy. My only problem is that the converted word doc has an odd foreign languages in them for whatever reason or it seems like it since the voice converts to them. Not sure if this is a flaw or a glitch but overall very content with its outcome.
> > Oh and nothing is ever perfect so there is that.
> > 
> > Thanks, :)
> > Seyoon
> > 
> >> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Cassandra Damstra via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >> https://robobraille.org/
> >> 
> >> is an amazing conversion website that can convert to so many different
> >> formats. Hope this helps!
> >> 
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Cassandra Damstra
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 19:40, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Greetings nabsters,
> >>> Perhaps this was brought up in the past so my apologies in advance for
> >>> bringing this convo back in a new thread. I have a PDF Doc of national
> >>> honor society application that I need to fill out and am looking for ways
> >>> to convert this into a word document, preferably with its formatting and
> >>> overall contents/structures of the document intact. I can confirm that at
> >>> least the document is an accessible, electronic PDF instead of a scanned
> >>> image, thank goodness!! I’m on a Mac and have both iWork and Microsoft
> >>> Office 365 sweets installed, so lots of word processing flexibility there.
> >>> Any suggestions are welcome by the way, so please feel free to reply with
> >>> whatever you think I should attempt.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Seyoon,
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> NABS-L mailing list
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From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 16:55:46 2019
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 08:55:46 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
Message-ID: <CABP7S8PMyNPbbM=tcGKtHrb3OM_3D-jQX5PoGepGNi-Sw=Pyjw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that
area, and we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from
our phones. They have better recording quality anyway, but I've found
that most of them are inaccessible. Do any of you have
recommendations? Thanks!

Best,
Cricket

-- 
Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
Stanford University | Class of 2021
BA Candidate | Communications
Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science
Communications Intern | AIRA
Secretary | California Association of Blind Students (CABS)


From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 17:26:08 2019
From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago H)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:26:08 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
In-Reply-To: <CABP7S8PMyNPbbM=tcGKtHrb3OM_3D-jQX5PoGepGNi-Sw=Pyjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP7S8PMyNPbbM=tcGKtHrb3OM_3D-jQX5PoGepGNi-Sw=Pyjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CF50A266-D9E6-45ED-A7CD-E3F621112857@gmail.com>

Hi Cricket,
It seems like the Zoom H1 has been a popular choice among blind people, because of it’s ease of  use and the fact that it has actual buttons, although from what I can tell, it is now discontinued. They do have a newer model called the Zoom H1n, which also seems to have buttons, and the ability to connect it to a computer so you can access your recordings easily. Maybe you can look in to those.



> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that
> area, and we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from
> our phones. They have better recording quality anyway, but I've found
> that most of them are inaccessible. Do any of you have
> recommendations? Thanks!
> 
> Best,
> Cricket
> 
> -- 
> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
> Stanford University | Class of 2021
> BA Candidate | Communications
> Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science
> Communications Intern | AIRA
> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students (CABS)
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb  7 17:38:24 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 11:38:24 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
In-Reply-To: <CABP7S8PMyNPbbM=tcGKtHrb3OM_3D-jQX5PoGepGNi-Sw=Pyjw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <013101d4bf0b$ed7377e0$c85a67a0$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,

The Olympus models have buttons.
I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
Bryan


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Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?

Hi,

I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that area, and
we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from our phones. They
have better recording quality anyway, but I've found that most of them are
inaccessible. Do any of you have recommendations? Thanks!

Best,
Cricket

--
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Stanford University | Class of 2021
BA Candidate | Communications
Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science
Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of Blind
Students (CABS)

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From kolby12091988 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 17:55:22 2019
From: kolby12091988 at gmail.com (Kolby Garrison)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 12:55:22 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
In-Reply-To: <013101d4bf0b$ed7377e0$c85a67a0$@sbcglobal.net>
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Hello, Cricket,
The Olympus LS-P4 is completely accessible and has the voice guidance
feature. I highly recommend the LS-P4 over the Zoom recorders.
Thank you,
Kolby Garrison

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:40 PM Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Olympus models have buttons.
> I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> via NABS-L
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> Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman <cricketbidleman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that area,
> and
> we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from our phones. They
> have better recording quality anyway, but I've found that most of them are
> inaccessible. Do any of you have recommendations? Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Cricket
>
> --
> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
> Stanford University | Class of 2021
> BA Candidate | Communications
> Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science
> Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of Blind
> Students (CABS)
>
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From clearinghouse at miusa.org  Thu Feb  7 17:56:35 2019
From: clearinghouse at miusa.org (MIUSA Clearinghouse)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:56:35 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] International exchange Fellowship
Message-ID: <CACPRCE5MuRxQwP6WF_jbjy6G8+DKbu02s_Wda3+hEG_hZXckKA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey NABS,

I hope this message finds everyone well. There is still time to apply for
the National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange's Access to Exchange
Fellowship, the perfect opportunity for and aspiring IE professional to
whet your appetite by spending three months developing materials and
advising exchange professionals from our office in Eugene Oregon. You will
also hobnob with a mix of staff and leadership from private and public
exchange organizations at the annual nafsa conference and the meeting of
our Roundtable partners, both meetings in Washington DC. Your Travel
expenses including flight, hotel and Perdiem are paid for, though you would
have to cover your living costs while in Eugene. More details on the
application process here https://www.miusa.org/news/2019/ncdefellowship

The nafsa conference is really a great opportunity to learn about what the
exchange field is all about from serving international students on a US
campus, to organizing program logistics at a host center abroad. Learn more
about the nafsa Convention and Expo:
https://www.nafsa.org/Annual_Conference/Annual_Conference___Expo/

To learn more about what we do, go to www.miusa.org /ncde. Any questions
about the clearinghouse, the exchange field or the fellowship can be sent
to clearinghouse at miusa.org.

Kind regards
Justin Harford
Program Coordinator (NCDE)

From ignasicambra at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 18:49:46 2019
From: ignasicambra at gmail.com (Ignasi Cambra)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:49:46 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
In-Reply-To: <013101d4bf0b$ed7377e0$c85a67a0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <CABP7S8PMyNPbbM=tcGKtHrb3OM_3D-jQX5PoGepGNi-Sw=Pyjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<013101d4bf0b$ed7377e0$c85a67a0$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <F49418A6-190E-4B18-AE32-366454986FED@gmail.com>

Hello,
I understand they are asking you to buy a recorder separate from your phone, but these days I find that to be extremely inefficient as a blind person. No matter how many buttons the recorder has it’s going to be very difficult for you to organize your recordings, rename them etc. If it’s absolutely necessary for your recorder to be independent from your phone you could purchase an iPod touch and use one of the many recording accessories available, which are equal (if not better) to any of the recorders you are talking about.
I can recommend the Zoom IQ7 and the Sure NV88+, and the Sennheiser Ambeo Smart headset is really great if you are into that kind of thing.. there are other options available at different price points but I won’t get into all of them now. On iOS there are several apps that will allow you to record both in compressed and on compressed formats. As a journalist I could see you using things like Hokusai or Ferrite, or a cheaper, less feature rich alternative called just Press Record. This kind of set up will always be a lot more flexible than using a recorder with a display on it which you won’t be able to read.
Hope that helps,

IC

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Feb 2019, at 17:38, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Olympus models have buttons.
> I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
> Bryan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman <cricketbidleman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that area, and
> we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from our phones. They
> have better recording quality anyway, but I've found that most of them are
> inaccessible. Do any of you have recommendations? Thanks!
> 
> Best,
> Cricket
> 
> --
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From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 23:03:20 2019
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (Simon Bonenfant)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:03:20 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
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Like others have said already, I would recommend the Olympus recorders. I don’t know all the models that are accessible offhand, but I know several people who use the Olympus models with the voice guidance feature. I know that they are fully able to operate the recorder excessively, and it uses an ST card, allowing for transfer of the recording’s to a computer or another external media device.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I understand they are asking you to buy a recorder separate from your phone, but these days I find that to be extremely inefficient as a blind person. No matter how many buttons the recorder has it’s going to be very difficult for you to organize your recordings, rename them etc. If it’s absolutely necessary for your recorder to be independent from your phone you could purchase an iPod touch and use one of the many recording accessories available, which are equal (if not better) to any of the recorders you are talking about.
> I can recommend the Zoom IQ7 and the Sure NV88+, and the Sennheiser Ambeo Smart headset is really great if you are into that kind of thing.. there are other options available at different price points but I won’t get into all of them now. On iOS there are several apps that will allow you to record both in compressed and on compressed formats. As a journalist I could see you using things like Hokusai or Ferrite, or a cheaper, less feature rich alternative called just Press Record. This kind of set up will always be a lot more flexible than using a recorder with a display on it which you won’t be able to read.
> Hope that helps,
> 
> IC
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 7 Feb 2019, at 17:38, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Olympus models have buttons.
>> I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> via NABS-L
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>> Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that area, and
>> we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from our phones. They
>> have better recording quality anyway, but I've found that most of them are
>> inaccessible. Do any of you have recommendations? Thanks!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Cricket
>> 
>> --
>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
>> Stanford University | Class of 2021
>> BA Candidate | Communications
>> Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science
>> Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of Blind
>> Students (CABS)
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From GaryWunder at me.com  Fri Feb  8 13:18:20 2019
From: GaryWunder at me.com (Gary Wunder)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 07:18:20 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
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	<013101d4bf0b$ed7377e0$c85a67a0$@sbcglobal.net>
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Please see the February issue of the Braille Monitor and the review written by Curtis Chong. Olympus has been fantastic, but my understanding is that they are phasing out voice guidance. 

Warmly,

Gary - 
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Like others have said already, I would recommend the Olympus recorders. I don’t know all the models that are accessible offhand, but I know several people who use the Olympus models with the voice guidance feature. I know that they are fully able to operate the recorder excessively, and it uses an ST card, allowing for transfer of the recording’s to a computer or another external media device.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I understand they are asking you to buy a recorder separate from your phone, but these days I find that to be extremely inefficient as a blind person. No matter how many buttons the recorder has it’s going to be very difficult for you to organize your recordings, rename them etc. If it’s absolutely necessary for your recorder to be independent from your phone you could purchase an iPod touch and use one of the many recording accessories available, which are equal (if not better) to any of the recorders you are talking about.
> I can recommend the Zoom IQ7 and the Sure NV88+, and the Sennheiser Ambeo Smart headset is really great if you are into that kind of thing.. there are other options available at different price points but I won’t get into all of them now. On iOS there are several apps that will allow you to record both in compressed and on compressed formats. As a journalist I could see you using things like Hokusai or Ferrite, or a cheaper, less feature rich alternative called just Press Record. This kind of set up will always be a lot more flexible than using a recorder with a display on it which you won’t be able to read.
> Hope that helps,
> 
> IC
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 7 Feb 2019, at 17:38, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Olympus models have buttons.
>> I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> via NABS-L
>> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:56 AM
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>> Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman <cricketbidleman at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that area, and
>> we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from our phones. They
>> have better recording quality anyway, but I've found that most of them are
>> inaccessible. Do any of you have recommendations? Thanks!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Cricket
>> 
>> --
>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
>> Stanford University | Class of 2021
>> BA Candidate | Communications
>> Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science
>> Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of Blind
>> Students (CABS)
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From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 21:10:11 2019
From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:10:11 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
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Hello,

What is the price range for the item mentioned below?

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

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Hello, Cricket,
The Olympus LS-P4 is completely accessible and has the voice guidance
feature. I highly recommend the LS-P4 over the Zoom recorders.
Thank you,
Kolby Garrison

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:40 PM Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Olympus models have buttons.
> I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman <cricketbidleman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that 
> area, and we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from 
> our phones. They have better recording quality anyway, but I've found 
> that most of them are inaccessible. Do any of you have 
> recommendations? Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Cricket
>
> --
> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
> Stanford University | Class of 2021
> BA Candidate | Communications
> Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science 
> Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of 
> Blind Students (CABS)
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From 1008jmd at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 21:15:55 2019
From: 1008jmd at gmail.com (John Dowling)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:15:55 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
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Hey all,
I currently use the olympus DM720. Its also got voice guidance, although I think this one is also discontinued. While I’ve never used this one, I also recommend the zoom H1.
You can find them on amazon.com <http://amazon.com/>.
HTH,
John


> On Feb 8, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Cory McMahon via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> What is the price range for the item mentioned below?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Cory McMahon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Kolby Garrison via
> NABS-L
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> Cc: Kolby Garrison <kolby12091988 at gmail.com <mailto:kolby12091988 at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
> 
> Hello, Cricket,
> The Olympus LS-P4 is completely accessible and has the voice guidance
> feature. I highly recommend the LS-P4 over the Zoom recorders.
> Thank you,
> Kolby Garrison
> 
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:40 PM Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Olympus models have buttons.
>> I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Bidleman via NABS-L
>> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:56 AM
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>> Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that 
>> area, and we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from 
>> our phones. They have better recording quality anyway, but I've found 
>> that most of them are inaccessible. Do any of you have 
>> recommendations? Thanks!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Cricket
>> 
>> --
>> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
>> Stanford University | Class of 2021
>> BA Candidate | Communications
>> Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science 
>> Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of 
>> Blind Students (CABS)
>> 
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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 23:08:20 2019
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 23:08:20 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Blind mice website down
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Hi folks,

Whenever I try going to blind mice megamall, the website simply does not open. Has the URL changed or something? Even trying to go there through Google does not work.


Best,
Rahul

Sent from my iPhone

From GaryWunder at me.com  Sat Feb  9 02:07:27 2019
From: GaryWunder at me.com (Gary Wunder)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 20:07:27 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
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It is showing $150 on Amazon.



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Hello,

What is the price range for the item mentioned below?

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?

Hello, Cricket,
The Olympus LS-P4 is completely accessible and has the voice guidance
feature. I highly recommend the LS-P4 over the Zoom recorders.
Thank you,
Kolby Garrison

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:40 PM Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Olympus models have buttons.
> I purchased one a few years ago that even has a micro sd slot.
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Bidleman via NABS-L
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:56 AM
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> Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman <cricketbidleman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible digital recorder?
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm approaching a journalism course and hopefully a career in that 
> area, and we're required to purchase a digital reorder separate from 
> our phones. They have better recording quality anyway, but I've found 
> that most of them are inaccessible. Do any of you have 
> recommendations? Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Cricket
>
> --
> Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
> Stanford University | Class of 2021
> BA Candidate | Communications
> Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science 
> Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of 
> Blind Students (CABS)
>
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From martinezana770 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 03:01:56 2019
From: martinezana770 at gmail.com (Ana Martinez)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 21:01:56 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] surbey
Message-ID: <CAPMxSt1UUZaW_tK-NuPVMJhHW6LYVxeJ7mssfV13W0g8w09-OQ@mail.gmail.com>

hey guys! so as part of my independent study I'm doing some research
on college students and young adults with disabilities and church
involvement. I'm currently conducting a survey geared towards students
and young adults between the ages of 17 to 29 with disabilities to see
if there is a link between disability and church involvement. I would
very much appreciate if some of you in this group could take the time
to answer this survey. *****note: this survey is not affiliated with
any religion; all are welcomed! :) Thanks.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd_7PdkvPsHxUzZpxle0ORHqrVoWCBAxkvMEqv3_RMPfKh3vg/viewform?usp=sf_link


From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Mon Feb 11 03:35:49 2019
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 03:35:49 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Legislative Advocacy Committee Call Sunday, February 17,
 at 8 PM ET
Message-ID: <BY2PR13MB0310BE31E0DF5C360948270089640@BY2PR13MB0310.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Good evening, NABS members and leaders!

I hope that you all are enjoying the end of winter! For those who attended Washington Seminar, and, for those who worked on our legislative priorities from home in the districts, congratulations on some great progress to start the year!

This is a friendly reminder that the legislative advocacy committee is having our monthly conference call on Sunday, February 17, at 8pm eastern. The call-in number is 712-770-5197, and the access code is 265669.

Whether or not you can make it to the call, I want to be sure that I ask/remind everyone about the present need to ask our Members of Congress to cosponsor legislation that will phase out the payment of subminimum wages to workers with disabilities. I have contacted the Hawaii offices, and I hope every office can hear from lots of students. When we go out and get a college degree, we do it because we want to get real jobs with real paychecks, not to end up in a sweatshop earning seven cents an hour. 

As President Riccobono announced at the Great Gathering-In, we have a new bill which needs your immediate attention. The Transformation to Competitive Employment Act was introduced in the Senate by Senator Casey of Pennsylvania and Senator Van Hollen of Maryland, and was assigned bill number S. 260. In the House, Chairman Bobby Scott of Virginia and Representative Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington introduced companion legislation, H.R. 873. These bills would phase out Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act over a six-year period, at which point the provision would officially be sunset. 
 
All of this means that we have the opportunity to give these bills a strong start by immediately building cosponsor support for both S. 260 and H.R. 873. Therefore, please call or email your senators and ask them to cosponsor S. 260 and call or email your representative and has him or her to cosponsor H.R. 873. 
 
When you call or email, you might say something like the following:
 
"Hello, my name is [your name] and I am a constituent of [your senator/representative]. I live in [city, state]. I am calling to urge [your senator/representative] to cosponsor [S. 260 for Senate calls/H.R. 873 for House calls], the Transformation to Competitive Employment Act. This bill would phase out subminimum wages for people with disabilities over a six-year period, at which point Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the provision that allows this practice, would be sunset. I urge [your senator/representative] to cosponsor the bill. Thanks."
 
You can contact your member of Congress by calling the Capitol Switchboard and asking for the office in question. The number is 202-224-3121. If you email your representative or senators, please copy Gabe Cazares at gcazares at nfb.org.

Don't hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions!

Aloha,

Justin

Justin M. Hideaki Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB 
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
(808) 797-8606
president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org





From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 22:30:39 2019
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:30:39 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Midwest Student Seminar!
Message-ID: <A4F6AFA8-1113-420A-B4BE-E8F195714328@gmail.com>

The 2019 Midwest Regional Student Seminar
“Owning Your Future”

Hosted by The National Association of Blind Students (NABS) and the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois (NFBI)  
Offering opportunities for professional growth, confidence building, and employment readiness with regional peers and national mentors! Take advantage of empowering panel discussions, engaging presentations, and social networking possibilities. Attendees will have chances to learn about social, environmental, and academic issues that blind students face, along with strategies and skills to successfully navigate them.
Eligible Participants: Blind high school and college students living or studying in the Midwest states. Students from other areas are welcomed to attend. 
When: March 15-17, 2019 

Where: The Holiday Inn O’Hare,  

5615 N. Cumberland Avenue,  

Chicago, IL 60631 
For Room Reservations: Call 773-693-5800. Mention NFB of Illinois to get the group rate  

Registration: $70 per student and must be completed by Friday, February 15, 2019   
Register at www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar/registration  

Direct inquiries to Kathryn Webster (nabs.president at gmail.com) or (203) 273-8463  

This seminar aims to show students that they are in control of their future. Together, we will highlight how to set goals, create ways to attain them, and own your achievements. Each step is a stride toward greatness and with our help, you have an opportunity to shine in the academic and employment arenas. The power of networking starts here but opens a door of possibilities for your growth. Live the life you want by owning your future and creating success! 

Cody Beardslee 
President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 

From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 04:03:24 2019
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 23:03:24 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CAFsrCh0374_OVh3NhAsMynDLHCf5LYncc64GuXdiAQV8YKZvgg@mail.gmail.com>

-- 
Taylor


From taylorarndt99 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 04:08:32 2019
From: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com (Taylor Arndt)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 23:08:32 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Michigan students social media
Message-ID: <CAFsrCh01riSNuzk6DSfUhx_AmEUptWFqcYF=RfRqy=eYwMNZpw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
Sorry if a blank poste came threw earlier.
Hi all,
The Michigan association  of blind students  social media is back.  To
know what is going on in Michigan, please  follow our social media
listed below.
Facebook
Michigan association  of blind students or the flowing link
https://www.facebook.com/MIBlindStudents/
twitter
the twitter handle is : mi_abs




-- 
Taylor





board member Michigan sociation of blind students
communications   chare michigan asociation of blind students
web master for state of michigan


From elizabeth.rouse14 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 21:53:07 2019
From: elizabeth.rouse14 at gmail.com (elizabeth.rouse14 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:53:07 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Invitation from Iowa!
Message-ID: <662CD014-D80F-4199-9C76-997B3822E3CA@gmail.com>

Hello all!
The Iowa Association of Blind Students would like to invite each and every one of you to our monthly membership call. This call will take place this Sunday, February 17 at 7 o’clock central standard time. Our topic this month is scholarships, specifically the National Federation of the Blind scholarship. We will have a question and answer session with students who have received the scholarship in the past. If you care to join us, call 605-475-4120 and use access code 7972692.
We look forward to hearing your voices. Feel free to bring any questions you may have about the Federation scholarship or scholarships in general!


Elizabeth Rouse
IABS Vice President

From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 03:28:33 2019
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:28:33 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] #NFBMWS19 Presenter Spotlight
Message-ID: <6BCCC14F-AD5D-4CB2-9625-6D530857CD1A@gmail.com>

Meet Bex Leon who is one of our presenters at the Midwest Student Seminar! 

Formerly a social worker in Nashville’s juvenile court, Bex moved to Chicago to complete a master’s in social work administration at the University of Chicago. After graduation, they plan to follow their dream of policy reform, research, and advocacy with marginalized youth within the public systems which serve them. They hope their previous experience in direct service and their on-going involvement in social justice movements will shape and advise their future macro level social work.
 
#PresenterSpotlight #NFBMWS19

If you have any questions about the seminar, feel free to email me at codybeardslee at gmail.com or text or call me at 763-291-3711 

Cody Beardslee 
President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 


From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 03:05:44 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:05:44 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] February Blog Post
Message-ID: <FC468968-6EF9-4C3D-BA59-817E909A5148@gmail.com>

Hey NABSters, 

I hope your evening is going well. Please spare some time and check out this month’s blog post. This month’s topic is on STEM and it is written by Taylor Arndt and she gives some tips and advice as a computer science student. Happy reading! 

From the Editor: 
Taylor Arndt is a freshman at Western Michigan
University studying computer science. She is part of the Michigan Association of Blind Students and the computer science division. She does many other things relating to the NFB, but those are the most important at this point.

Why Did I Want To Get Into Computer Science? 
I wanted to get into computer science because I felt like there is a need to make software accessible while software is still being
developed and tested. Today, software gets released to the public and is inaccessible for users. As a result, lawsuits and other consequences developed because of one simple problem of lack of accessibility training. My experiences, while I am still a freshman, I haven’t had that many computer science classes yet. Because in a computer science degree, math is a
prerequisite which means I have to get my math before I can reallydive in. With that being said, I have resorted to teaching myself and using other resources to get ahead. Some examples of resources I use are the computer science organization on my school's campus, online tutorials, and networking with the NFB computer science division.The advice I have for prospective computer science students who may not have the best math background just do it anyway. Don’t let the math stop your plans for living the life you want.

Respectfully, 
Matthew Gip
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nations blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. 


From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Sun Feb 17 07:58:22 2019
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 07:58:22 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] REMINDER: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call Sunday,
 February 17, at 8 PM ET
Message-ID: <BY2PR13MB0310A46025D9AF565C0A58C489620@BY2PR13MB0310.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Good evening, NABS members and leaders!

This is a friendly reminder that the legislative advocacy committee is having our monthly conference call on Sunday, February 17, at 8pm eastern. The call-in number is 712-770-5197, and the access code is 265669.

I hope you've all been contacting your Members of Congress about the bill I mentioned in my last email.

Don't hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions!

Aloha,

Justin

Justin M. Hideaki Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB 
he/him/his
Chair, Legislative Advocacy Committee

Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
(808) 797-8606
president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org





From amieelsabo at gmail.com  Mon Feb 18 21:14:46 2019
From: amieelsabo at gmail.com (Amy Sabo)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:14:46 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] need assistance with my victor stream
Message-ID: <CAOF1yXE6ZR+jQicXt6m5zYwp3rk9Ck8qsexuHDc+QtBG0zf+rQ@mail.gmail.com>

hello all,
well, I hope that you all are doing well. I have my 3rd victor stream
and, I have tried to listen to it by listening to internet radio on
it. I have tried changing the menu settings from airplane mode to
connecting to my wireless mode and, no success!

I have tried this through the menu mthod and, I was wondering on how I
connect to my internet connection through by using myw fie in my home
or in other places. and, also how do I find stations once I connect to
the internet by using o tunes, iTunes, or tune in?  or, do I need to
update my software of my current victor stream which I got in may of
2017 and, if I do how do I do this?

any help would be greatly appreciated from you all!


thanks,
amy


From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 02:53:33 2019
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 21:53:33 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] need assistance with my victor stream
In-Reply-To: <CAOF1yXE6ZR+jQicXt6m5zYwp3rk9Ck8qsexuHDc+QtBG0zf+rQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOF1yXE6ZR+jQicXt6m5zYwp3rk9Ck8qsexuHDc+QtBG0zf+rQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJTqpvT=EVUFD_bfLEZJdqo-XP7RZ-Uj_GGGgNef81+a=-LV_g@mail.gmail.com>

 I would be more than happy to assist you with this, please email me
privately so that we can discuss this. It will be easier for me to help you
over the phone while I have my device in front of me as well.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 16:16 Amy Sabo via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> hello all,
> well, I hope that you all are doing well. I have my 3rd victor stream
> and, I have tried to listen to it by listening to internet radio on
> it. I have tried changing the menu settings from airplane mode to
> connecting to my wireless mode and, no success!
>
> I have tried this through the menu mthod and, I was wondering on how I
> connect to my internet connection through by using myw fie in my home
> or in other places. and, also how do I find stations once I connect to
> the internet by using o tunes, iTunes, or tune in?  or, do I need to
> update my software of my current victor stream which I got in may of
> 2017 and, if I do how do I do this?
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated from you all!
>
>
> thanks,
> amy
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From cmendez at nfb.org  Thu Feb 21 21:20:27 2019
From: cmendez at nfb.org (Mendez, Catherine)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:20:27 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Deadline approaching: scholarships and the Humanware
 internship opportunity
Message-ID: <88263C84-35FF-473B-BDA0-7D1379AE96C3@nfb.org>

Greetings all!

This is just a reminder that there are just under six weeks left to complete and submit your application for the 2019 NFB scholarship program!  If you are a legally blind student residing in the 50 states, the district of Columbia or Puerto Rico, and you will be attending school full-time in the fall of 2019, you are eligible to apply.  The national Federation of the blind annually gives 30 scholarships, ranging in value from $3000-$12,000, plus other gifts and prizes. Our 30 finalists also receive financial assistance to attend the national convention of the NFB, to be held this year in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Please visit  https://nfb.org/programs-services/scholarships-and-awards/scholarship-program to find the application, submission guidelines, and frequently asked questions. Please remember, your application is not complete until you have uploaded all of the required documents and hit the submit button.  Once that is done, you will receive an email with a copy of your completed application and verification that all of your documentation has been received. If you do not receive this email, your application is not submitted, so please make sure to hit that submit button!

And there is more great news…

The deadline to apply for the NFB/Humanware  internship opportunity has been extended through February 28.  Once you have submitted your scholarship application, you will have the opportunity to fill out an additional Application related to this internship opportunity.  Please see below for additional information about this internship.

NFB/HumanWare STEM Internship

The NFB and HumanWare, a leading assistive technology company that makes products to help blind people participate equally in society, have collaborated to offer a STEM internship opportunity. The intern will be part of HumanWare’s research and development department in Longueuil QC, Canada starting around June 2019 through August 2019. The intern will also travel to the NFB National Convention in July. The internship package includes housing, travel expenses, and an internship wage to be determined. If you are interested, please complete the NFB scholarship application on or before February 28, 2019. You will then be given the opportunity to complete the HumanWare internship application.

Cayte Mendez
Chairperson, National Federation of the Blind Scholarship Committee
Scholarships at nfb.org<mailto:Scholarships at nfb.org>

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From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 22:52:47 2019
From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:52:47 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Midwest Student Seminar: Register by Tomorrow, Friday,
 11:59 PM
Message-ID: <CAOpEY1fgkaskDrA84hGbAQmJn-3Jjda-hdg2DL71skAiz7SORw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi students! Just a quick reminder that registration for the Midwest
Student Seminar closes tomorrow night, so don't delay!!!

Quick specs:
When: Friday, March 15 through Sunday, March 17, 2019
Where: Holiday Inn O'Hare, 5615 N. Cumberland Avenue, Chicago, IL 60631
$70 per student
For Room Reservations: Call 773-693-5800. Mention NFB of Illinois to
get the group rate.

Join NABS and the NFB of Illinois for a weekend full of dynamic
speakers, unique learning opportunities, and fun!

Register at:
www.nfbofillinois.org/midwest-students-spring-seminar/registration.

Hope to see you there!

-- 
Mausam Mehta
University of Virginia Class of 2022
Secretary | Virginia Association of Blind Students
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National federation of the Blind
(540) 466-6033
mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com
www.nabslink.org


From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Fri Feb 22 15:06:59 2019
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 15:06:59 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] phone conference on how blind Individuals Can Do STEM
Message-ID: <MN2PR11MB3791A1AF4CE9A5F8DA11BC4FAA7F0@MN2PR11MB3791.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Folks,

The Science and Engineering Division of the National Federation of the Blind and the National Association of Blind Students present a joint phone conference on how blind professionals, and blind college and graduate students are succeeding in courses to do with science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.  The call-in number is the NABS conference line 712-770-5197, Participant Access Code: 265669.  The call will occur at 8 PM EST through 9 PM EST on Sunday, February 24, 2019.

Topics will be of interest for blind students in middle school, high school, college and graduate school and professionals. Parents of blind school-aged children and educators are also welcome.  Some portion of the presentation will address how to succeed in a laboratory setting.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com


From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Sat Feb 23 14:57:28 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:57:28 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Follow up from last week.
Message-ID: <CACud-vGn_O1rVYfO6_21SjUHMPo7SZgSMgfzQYrbAvmkXE5Jew@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning NABS students:

Thank you for having me on the call last week. I want to share my website
with you guys. Please Subscribe to the website with just providing your
Email. If you want to blog on the website send me a email on what you want
me to post and I will be happy to post it on the website.  Here is the
website link. eagroup21.wixsite.com/website

Please let me know if you have any questions.

There is a young colleague of mine who is in the Youth Group. I want to
share with you guys her YouTube channel. She is a very good singer. please
feel free to check out her videos. Also don't for get to subscribe. She is
a great leader. Click Here to go to her Channel
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK65RWLulmgY6AEff44o5w>

 Email me with any questions  you may have. This is Selvin Linder.
sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu
linder.selvin23 at gmail.com
weather99guy at icloud.com  feel free to use any of these emails or text or
call me at 336-645-0252.


-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Sat Feb 23 15:06:18 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 10:06:18 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Follow up from last week.
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vGn_O1rVYfO6_21SjUHMPo7SZgSMgfzQYrbAvmkXE5Jew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vGn_O1rVYfO6_21SjUHMPo7SZgSMgfzQYrbAvmkXE5Jew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vGG36+DNQOXSaWqwdhQDjUBpc+vgCag374r+gGVw-s=qg@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning NABS students:

sorry guys I messed up on my website link I hope it works. send me any
feedback may have.

Thank you for having me on the call last week. I want to share my website
with you guys. Please Subscribe to the website with just providing your
Email. If you want to blog on the website send me a email on what you want
me to post and I will be happy to post it on the website.  Here is the
website link. yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website
<http://eagroup21.wixsite.com/website>

Please let me know if you have any questions.

There is a young colleague of mine who is in the Youth Group. I want to
share with you guys her YouTube channel. She is a very good singer. please
feel free to check out her videos. Also don't for get to subscribe. She is
a great leader. Click Here to go to her Channel
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK65RWLulmgY6AEff44o5w>

 Email me with any questions  you may have. This is Selvin Linder.
sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu
linder.selvin23 at gmail.com
weather99guy at icloud.com  feel free to use any of these emails or text or
call me at 336-645-0252.


On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 9:57 AM Selvin Linder <
sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu> wrote:

> Good morning NABS students:
>
> Thank you for having me on the call last week. I want to share my website
> with you guys. Please Subscribe to the website with just providing your
> Email. If you want to blog on the website send me a email on what you want
> me to post and I will be happy to post it on the website.  Here is the
> website link. eagroup21.wixsite.com/website
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> There is a young colleague of mine who is in the Youth Group. I want to
> share with you guys her YouTube channel. She is a very good singer. please
> feel free to check out her videos. Also don't for get to subscribe. She is
> a great leader. Click Here to go to her Channel
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK65RWLulmgY6AEff44o5w>
>
>  Email me with any questions  you may have. This is Selvin Linder.
> sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu
> linder.selvin23 at gmail.com
> weather99guy at icloud.com  feel free to use any of these emails or text or
> call me at 336-645-0252.
>
>
> --
> *Selvin Linder *
> 336-645-0252
>
>
>

-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Sat Feb 23 15:21:03 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 10:21:03 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Follow up from last week.
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vGG36+DNQOXSaWqwdhQDjUBpc+vgCag374r+gGVw-s=qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vGn_O1rVYfO6_21SjUHMPo7SZgSMgfzQYrbAvmkXE5Jew@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACud-vGG36+DNQOXSaWqwdhQDjUBpc+vgCag374r+gGVw-s=qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vHUVco2q3yHtVY4DUV4c9nSdP3vhdUaV1Dareo__T3-hg@mail.gmail.com>

This is my website link. This is the right on. Sorry for my mistake . I
like computers but some times it can be a problem.
https://yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website

The YouTube Chanel link works .





On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:06 AM Selvin Linder <
sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu> wrote:

> Good morning NABS students:
>
> sorry guys I messed up on my website link I hope it works. send me any
> feedback may have.
>
> Thank you for having me on the call last week. I want to share my website
> with you guys. Please Subscribe to the website with just providing your
> Email. If you want to blog on the website send me a email on what you want
> me to post and I will be happy to post it on the website.  Here is the
> website link. yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website
> <http://eagroup21.wixsite.com/website>
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> There is a young colleague of mine who is in the Youth Group. I want to
> share with you guys her YouTube channel. She is a very good singer. please
> feel free to check out her videos. Also don't for get to subscribe. She is
> a great leader. Click Here to go to her Channel
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK65RWLulmgY6AEff44o5w>
>
>  Email me with any questions  you may have. This is Selvin Linder.
> sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu
> linder.selvin23 at gmail.com
> weather99guy at icloud.com  feel free to use any of these emails or text or
> call me at 336-645-0252.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 9:57 AM Selvin Linder <
> sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Good morning NABS students:
>>
>> Thank you for having me on the call last week. I want to share my website
>> with you guys. Please Subscribe to the website with just providing your
>> Email. If you want to blog on the website send me a email on what you want
>> me to post and I will be happy to post it on the website.  Here is the
>> website link. eagroup21.wixsite.com/website
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> There is a young colleague of mine who is in the Youth Group. I want to
>> share with you guys her YouTube channel. She is a very good singer. please
>> feel free to check out her videos. Also don't for get to subscribe. She is
>> a great leader. Click Here to go to her Channel
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK65RWLulmgY6AEff44o5w>
>>
>>  Email me with any questions  you may have. This is Selvin Linder.
>> sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu
>> linder.selvin23 at gmail.com
>> weather99guy at icloud.com  feel free to use any of these emails or text or
>> call me at 336-645-0252.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Selvin Linder *
>> 336-645-0252
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> *Selvin Linder *
> 336-645-0252
>
>
> --
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Sun Feb 24 02:31:35 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 21:31:35 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Meeting with leader.
Message-ID: <CACud-vHGchzuqRWU96kMsLH-QaDDts5jtnMRY7hOB-V+5xtNpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good Evening NABS Students:

I want to let you know on about a meeting going on on Wednesday February
27, 2019, If you are available please register on the website to get your
name in the system.  https://yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website

If you can not do so please give me your name, last name, and email so I
can put you in the system. I am trying to make the website usable for all
people with disabilities.

Please invite any youth between the ages 18 and 30.  If you do not want
your name in the system just call in and say your name. This is for
Wednesday February 27, 2019 at 5 Eastern. The board will open at 4:45 P.M.

Dial-in number (US): (605) 313-4171 Access code: 799307#

-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Sun Feb 24 02:58:04 2019
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 21:58:04 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Meeting with leader.
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vHGchzuqRWU96kMsLH-QaDDts5jtnMRY7hOB-V+5xtNpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vHGchzuqRWU96kMsLH-QaDDts5jtnMRY7hOB-V+5xtNpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <864354A1-E4B5-4D0F-8BE8-FE61ADC0725D@gmail.com>

What is the meeting about?

Chris Nusbaum

> On Feb 23, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good Evening NABS Students:
> 
> I want to let you know on about a meeting going on on Wednesday February
> 27, 2019, If you are available please register on the website to get your
> name in the system.  https://yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website
> 
> If you can not do so please give me your name, last name, and email so I
> can put you in the system. I am trying to make the website usable for all
> people with disabilities.
> 
> Please invite any youth between the ages 18 and 30.  If you do not want
> your name in the system just call in and say your name. This is for
> Wednesday February 27, 2019 at 5 Eastern. The board will open at 4:45 P.M.
> 
> Dial-in number (US): (605) 313-4171 Access code: 799307#
> 
> -- 
> *Selvin Linder *
> 336-645-0252
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com


From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Sun Feb 24 03:01:56 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 22:01:56 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Meeting with leader.
In-Reply-To: <864354A1-E4B5-4D0F-8BE8-FE61ADC0725D@gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vHGchzuqRWU96kMsLH-QaDDts5jtnMRY7hOB-V+5xtNpQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<864354A1-E4B5-4D0F-8BE8-FE61ADC0725D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vFG0DxBpiJTjyrBWoC+VmwhXFjiWd6mqYgKVNsNsPmCGw@mail.gmail.com>

Did you read the description on the website? Did you read the description
in the blog page about the group? That’s what we’re going to discuss.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 9:59 PM Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> What is the meeting about?
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> > On Feb 23, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good Evening NABS Students:
> >
> > I want to let you know on about a meeting going on on Wednesday February
> > 27, 2019, If you are available please register on the website to get your
> > name in the system.  https://yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website
> >
> > If you can not do so please give me your name, last name, and email so I
> > can put you in the system. I am trying to make the website usable for all
> > people with disabilities.
> >
> > Please invite any youth between the ages 18 and 30.  If you do not want
> > your name in the system just call in and say your name. This is for
> > Wednesday February 27, 2019 at 5 Eastern. The board will open at 4:45
> P.M.
> >
> > Dial-in number (US): (605) 313-4171 Access code: 799307#
> >
> > --
> > *Selvin Linder *
> > 336-645-0252
> > _______________________________________________
> > NABS-L mailing list
> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
>
-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From armando at theblindadvocate.com  Sun Feb 24 03:09:01 2019
From: armando at theblindadvocate.com (Armando Vias)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 22:09:01 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Meeting with leader.
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vFG0DxBpiJTjyrBWoC+VmwhXFjiWd6mqYgKVNsNsPmCGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vHGchzuqRWU96kMsLH-QaDDts5jtnMRY7hOB-V+5xtNpQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<864354A1-E4B5-4D0F-8BE8-FE61ADC0725D@gmail.com>
	<CACud-vFG0DxBpiJTjyrBWoC+VmwhXFjiWd6mqYgKVNsNsPmCGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E648553C-E05C-44C0-94B8-7C3710C04067@theblindadvocate.com>

There is no form to register for the meeting. I can only find a subscribe and a contact form.

--
Armando Vias
Student
Email: armando at theblindadvocate.com
Website: https://theblindadvocate.wordpress.com
Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvocate

"WE ARE THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND, AND WE CANNOT BE SHUT DOWN!"
-Mark A. Riccobono

"The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day, we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. Together, with love, hope, and determination, we transform dreams into reality."
Website: www.nfb.org
Are you a blind student? Visit this website to learn about the National Association of Blind Students, (NABS), a division of the National Federation of the Blind.
https://nabslink.org
To find your student division, visit https://nabslink.org/content/contact-our-state-divisions

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Did you read the description on the website? Did you read the description
> in the blog page about the group? That’s what we’re going to discuss.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 9:59 PM Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> What is the meeting about?
>> 
>> Chris Nusbaum
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Evening NABS Students:
>>> 
>>> I want to let you know on about a meeting going on on Wednesday February
>>> 27, 2019, If you are available please register on the website to get your
>>> name in the system.  https://yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website
>>> 
>>> If you can not do so please give me your name, last name, and email so I
>>> can put you in the system. I am trying to make the website usable for all
>>> people with disabilities.
>>> 
>>> Please invite any youth between the ages 18 and 30.  If you do not want
>>> your name in the system just call in and say your name. This is for
>>> Wednesday February 27, 2019 at 5 Eastern. The board will open at 4:45
>> P.M.
>>> 
>>> Dial-in number (US): (605) 313-4171 Access code: 799307#
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *Selvin Linder *
>>> 336-645-0252
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>>> 
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>> 
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
>> 
> -- 
> *Selvin Linder *
> 336-645-0252
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando%40theblindadvocate.com

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Sun Feb 24 03:20:33 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 22:20:33 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Meeting with leader.
In-Reply-To: <E648553C-E05C-44C0-94B8-7C3710C04067@theblindadvocate.com>
References: <CACud-vHGchzuqRWU96kMsLH-QaDDts5jtnMRY7hOB-V+5xtNpQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<864354A1-E4B5-4D0F-8BE8-FE61ADC0725D@gmail.com>
	<CACud-vFG0DxBpiJTjyrBWoC+VmwhXFjiWd6mqYgKVNsNsPmCGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<E648553C-E05C-44C0-94B8-7C3710C04067@theblindadvocate.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vHfBwHZyCi2dWYnO-gZfiEQbKEVhimcFQyqycbVJTP6cA@mail.gmail.com>

YEA group News

The Joy A Shabazz Center has started a YOUTH Empowerment and  Advocacy
Group and we had our first meeting on  Thursday Jan 24 2019 at the Glenwood
Library. It was well attended  with youth and an advisory committee of
different  community self advocates.

Our ideas for this group is to encourage and teach Self Advocacy and
Empowerment skills to youth from the ages of roughly 18 to 30 to prepare
leaders in advocacy to continue progress in human and civil rights for
people with disabilities . The February meeting will virtual on 2/27/2019 ,
hopefully to begin regular face to face meeting in March 2019.

On Friday Feb 1. 2019 The Joy A Shabazz center and the Winston CIL
Presented to the UNCG Housing Hangout group of over 60 students and
community providers who met on the campus to discuss this months topic
Disability
Housing . Jeanine Moran shared a historical perspective of the Independent
living movement started with her personal super hero ED ROBERTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1n379TcS-U&feature=youtu.be

The response was positive, with many agency and more community contacts
were established. Housing Hangouts are every first Friday on various
housing community needs and initiatives . The upcoming schedule is at
https://chcs.uncg.edu/about/housinghangout/


Good questions guys. Here are some answers don't worry about signing up.
Just call in the number along with the access code. I just respond to this
email if you are interested. Let be strong leaders . I just want to have a
number for how many people will attend the meeting.


if you have question about the website use the life chat and I will connect
to answer your questions

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:09 PM Armando Vias via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> There is no form to register for the meeting. I can only find a subscribe
> and a contact form.
>
> --
> Armando Vias
> Student
> Email: armando at theblindadvocate.com
> Website: https://theblindadvocate.wordpress.com
> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvocate
>
> "WE ARE THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND, AND WE CANNOT BE SHUT DOWN!"
> -Mark A. Riccobono
>
> "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day, we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you back. Together, with love, hope, and
> determination, we transform dreams into reality."
> Website: www.nfb.org
> Are you a blind student? Visit this website to learn about the National
> Association of Blind Students, (NABS), a division of the National
> Federation of the Blind.
> https://nabslink.org
> To find your student division, visit
> https://nabslink.org/content/contact-our-state-divisions
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 23, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Did you read the description on the website? Did you read the description
> > in the blog page about the group? That’s what we’re going to discuss.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 9:59 PM Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> What is the meeting about?
> >>
> >> Chris Nusbaum
> >>
> >>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Good Evening NABS Students:
> >>>
> >>> I want to let you know on about a meeting going on on Wednesday
> February
> >>> 27, 2019, If you are available please register on the website to get
> your
> >>> name in the system.  https://yeagroup21.wixsite.com/website
> >>>
> >>> If you can not do so please give me your name, last name, and email so
> I
> >>> can put you in the system. I am trying to make the website usable for
> all
> >>> people with disabilities.
> >>>
> >>> Please invite any youth between the ages 18 and 30.  If you do not want
> >>> your name in the system just call in and say your name. This is for
> >>> Wednesday February 27, 2019 at 5 Eastern. The board will open at 4:45
> >> P.M.
> >>>
> >>> Dial-in number (US): (605) 313-4171 Access code: 799307#
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *Selvin Linder *
> >>> 336-645-0252
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> NABS-L mailing list
> >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> NABS-L:
> >>>
> >>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NABS-L mailing list
> >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> NABS-L:
> >>
> >>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
> >>
> > --
> > *Selvin Linder *
> > 336-645-0252
> > _______________________________________________
> > NABS-L mailing list
> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando%40theblindadvocate.com
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
>


-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From janae.burgmeier at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 01:41:06 2019
From: janae.burgmeier at gmail.com (Janae Burgmeier)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 19:41:06 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Building your student division
Message-ID: <BB04E3A7-1964-4D17-94E1-2240D0B60F76@gmail.com>

Hi everyone. I am the NABS outreach chair. Our March theme for the outreach conitteee will be building a student division. 

We want to hear from you. 

What questions do you have on this topic? Please share your questions and we will answer them. Please feel free to share your advice with others. 

Sent from my iPhone

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Mon Feb 25 02:23:20 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 21:23:20 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Virtual Meeting
Message-ID: <CACud-vHh=MP5Qqp0swT+LWC0W5SdPO1qBy+4RWn3LVNqFAYmYw@mail.gmail.com>

HI NABS Students:

This is a friendly reminder that the website is for any youth leaders who
want to help others with disabilities. We will discuss it more at the
virtual meeting on Wednesday. You may also get the news letter next week
and the recording of the meeting. Stay tuned for updates. Chris I did not
give much detail yesterday about the meeting. I am only responsible for
controlling the system and making sure everyone can have a chance to talk
and state their issues.

If you want to know about what we will be discussing. Contacting Mrs.
Jeanie Moran at jeanine.shabazzcenter at gmail.com she is in charge of the
meeting. I don't know if you got enough information from the website. Guys
do not hesitate to reach out to me. I am more than happy to answer any
questions you may have.

linder.selvin23 at gmail.com
yeagroup21 at gmail.com

-- 
*Selvin Linder  *
336-645-0252

From jrzobek at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 11:13:36 2019
From: jrzobek at gmail.com (Jonathan Zobek)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 06:13:36 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Building your student division
In-Reply-To: <BB04E3A7-1964-4D17-94E1-2240D0B60F76@gmail.com>
References: <BB04E3A7-1964-4D17-94E1-2240D0B60F76@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7832F5FA-6D3C-49AF-8AD5-F5F7C22A016D@gmail.com>

Hello All.

In terms of building a Student Division, how can I reach out to more members?  Our monthly conference calls usually consist of the Board, and possibly one or two other members. Does anyone here know of any strategies to try to get more people on our monthly calls?
In terms of outreach, we use the mailing list, and a Facebook Page.  Is there anything we can do with respect to social media to get more students on our calls?

Have a Wonderful Day,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 24, 2019, at 20:41, Janae Burgmeier via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone. I am the NABS outreach chair. Our March theme for the outreach conitteee will be building a student division. 
> 
> We want to hear from you. 
> 
> What questions do you have on this topic? Please share your questions and we will answer them. Please feel free to share your advice with others. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jrzobek%40gmail.com


From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 16:43:18 2019
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:43:18 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
Message-ID: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>

Hi Fellow NABSTERS:

My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.

I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read, write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?

Thanks,
 
Chris Nusbaum

From m.capelle at charter.net  Mon Feb 25 16:48:09 2019
From: m.capelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 10:48:09 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>
References: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2F5E171E5BA946BD8CDEB8F29DF06121@MikePC>

I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to enable 
accessible mode.
HTH.
Mike.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Chris Nusbaum
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS

Hi Fellow NABSTERS:

My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped 
entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually 
everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with 
Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and 
(if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent 
updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a 
Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.

I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on 
Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at 
least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface 
similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files 
play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read, 
write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?

Thanks,

Chris Nusbaum
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From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 16:50:32 2019
From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago H)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 08:50:32 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>
References: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B5D0AFCD-E9FB-4D03-8E04-06806C6FF375@gmail.com>

Hi Chris, 
Google Docs does work well with JAWS, and a lot of the keyboard shortcuts they use are similar on all platforms. Personally, I still feel like Office has a better interface, but Docs is definitely usable. Google's accessibility site has help pages if you need to refresh on the keyboard shortcuts. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
> 
> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.
> 
> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read, write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
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From misokwak12 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 16:53:49 2019
From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:53:49 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <2F5E171E5BA946BD8CDEB8F29DF06121@MikePC>
References: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>
	<2F5E171E5BA946BD8CDEB8F29DF06121@MikePC>
Message-ID: <CAMe9x_Gre-q9c=kg2gQioCtY3BPcepHhBFpVT6KOveM+tiW=Aw@mail.gmail.com>

I use Google drive and Google Doc with JAWS 2018 and using Google
Chrome. I sometimes pair it with my braille display.

Although it is probably not most up-to-date info at this point, I
found this link helpful when I was getting started.
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm

MK

On 2/25/19, Michael Capelle via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
> I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to enable
>
> accessible mode.
> HTH.
> Mike.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Chris Nusbaum
> Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
>
> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>
> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped
>
> entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually
> everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with
> Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and
>
> (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent
> updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a
> Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.
>
> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Nusbaum
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From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 16:57:13 2019
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:57:13 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9x_Gre-q9c=kg2gQioCtY3BPcepHhBFpVT6KOveM+tiW=Aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>
	<2F5E171E5BA946BD8CDEB8F29DF06121@MikePC>
	<CAMe9x_Gre-q9c=kg2gQioCtY3BPcepHhBFpVT6KOveM+tiW=Aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <093F6DE8-1404-4AB0-B09D-0A98E1E501E8@gmail.com>

Thanks, Santiago and Miso. So is it best to use Docs in its Web browser form?

Chris Nusbaum

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use Google drive and Google Doc with JAWS 2018 and using Google
> Chrome. I sometimes pair it with my braille display.
> 
> Although it is probably not most up-to-date info at this point, I
> found this link helpful when I was getting started.
> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm
> 
> MK
> 
>> On 2/25/19, Michael Capelle via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
>> I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to enable
>> 
>> accessible mode.
>> HTH.
>> Mike.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum
>> Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
>> 
>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>> 
>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped
>> 
>> entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually
>> everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with
>> Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and
>> 
>> (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent
>> updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a
>> Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.
>> 
>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris Nusbaum
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From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 17:03:21 2019
From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago H)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 09:03:21 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <093F6DE8-1404-4AB0-B09D-0A98E1E501E8@gmail.com>
References: <75E5FC02-9202-4C64-8634-7F7F1BDEF410@gmail.com>
	<2F5E171E5BA946BD8CDEB8F29DF06121@MikePC>
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	<093F6DE8-1404-4AB0-B09D-0A98E1E501E8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CEE54B0E-8246-4EEA-BBAD-3D561D499ACA@gmail.com>

Yes, I feel like that's the best option. The iOS app is accessible, but lately it has been having issues when collaborating on a document with other people at the same time. Also, this is the direct link to Google's help article on using Docs with a screen reader. This applies to all screen readers, including JAWS. 

https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Santiago and Miso. So is it best to use Docs in its Web browser form?
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I use Google drive and Google Doc with JAWS 2018 and using Google
>> Chrome. I sometimes pair it with my braille display.
>> 
>> Although it is probably not most up-to-date info at this point, I
>> found this link helpful when I was getting started.
>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm
>> 
>> MK
>> 
>>> On 2/25/19, Michael Capelle via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
>>> I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to enable
>>> 
>>> accessible mode.
>>> HTH.
>>> Mike.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum
>>> Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
>>> 
>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>> 
>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped
>>> 
>>> entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually
>>> everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with
>>> Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and
>>> 
>>> (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent
>>> updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a
>>> Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>> _______________________________________________
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From braillemasterjustin at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 17:31:18 2019
From: braillemasterjustin at gmail.com (Justin Heard)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 12:31:18 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
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Just to add to what has been said, when I was working with technology students over the summer, NVDA with chrome seemed the best combination. Jaws still has it’s weird glitches with docs that NVDA does a better job dealing with. The google drive interface is a mess though, no matter the screen reader. Dropbox is oddly still more accessible for file sharing. You shouldn’t have many problems with docs, sheets, or slides though. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Santiago H via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I feel like that's the best option. The iOS app is accessible, but lately it has been having issues when collaborating on a document with other people at the same time. Also, this is the direct link to Google's help article on using Docs with a screen reader. This applies to all screen readers, including JAWS. 
> 
> https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Santiago and Miso. So is it best to use Docs in its Web browser form?
>> 
>> Chris Nusbaum
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Google drive and Google Doc with JAWS 2018 and using Google
>>> Chrome. I sometimes pair it with my braille display.
>>> 
>>> Although it is probably not most up-to-date info at this point, I
>>> found this link helpful when I was getting started.
>>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm
>>> 
>>> MK
>>> 
>>>> On 2/25/19, Michael Capelle via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
>>>> I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to enable
>>>> 
>>>> accessible mode.
>>>> HTH.
>>>> Mike.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum
>>>> Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>>> 
>>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped
>>>> 
>>>> entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually
>>>> everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with
>>>> Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and
>>>> 
>>>> (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent
>>>> updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a
>>>> Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.
>>>> 
>>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 17:42:34 2019
From: santiago.blue.hernandez at gmail.com (Santiago H)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 09:42:34 -0800
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
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It's interesting that you mention that, because last time I tried using Docs with NVDA, it was more of a mess than with JAWS. I'll have to check it out with NVDA again then. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Just to add to what has been said, when I was working with technology students over the summer, NVDA with chrome seemed the best combination. Jaws still has it’s weird glitches with docs that NVDA does a better job dealing with. The google drive interface is a mess though, no matter the screen reader. Dropbox is oddly still more accessible for file sharing. You shouldn’t have many problems with docs, sheets, or slides though. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Santiago H via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I feel like that's the best option. The iOS app is accessible, but lately it has been having issues when collaborating on a document with other people at the same time. Also, this is the direct link to Google's help article on using Docs with a screen reader. This applies to all screen readers, including JAWS. 
>> 
>> https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Santiago and Miso. So is it best to use Docs in its Web browser form?
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I use Google drive and Google Doc with JAWS 2018 and using Google
>>>> Chrome. I sometimes pair it with my braille display.
>>>> 
>>>> Although it is probably not most up-to-date info at this point, I
>>>> found this link helpful when I was getting started.
>>>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm
>>>> 
>>>> MK
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/25/19, Michael Capelle via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
>>>>> I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to enable
>>>>> 
>>>>> accessible mode.
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>> Mike.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum
>>>>> Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped
>>>>> 
>>>>> entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually
>>>>> everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with
>>>>> Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and
>>>>> 
>>>>> (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent
>>>>> updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a
>>>>> Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>>>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>>>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>>>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>>>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>>>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
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From m.capelle at charter.net  Mon Feb 25 17:43:27 2019
From: m.capelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:43:27 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
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	<CE66D75E-0DF1-46E6-9492-9E4674A86CD5@gmail.com>
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I will agree here, as I use NVDA as my primary screen reader, and chrome as 
my primary browser.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Heard via NABS-L
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:31 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Justin Heard
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS

Just to add to what has been said, when I was working with technology 
students over the summer, NVDA with chrome seemed the best combination. Jaws 
still has it’s weird glitches with docs that NVDA does a better job dealing 
with. The google drive interface is a mess though, no matter the screen 
reader. Dropbox is oddly still more accessible for file sharing. You shouldn’t 
have many problems with docs, sheets, or slides though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Santiago H via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, I feel like that's the best option. The iOS app is accessible, but 
> lately it has been having issues when collaborating on a document with 
> other people at the same time. Also, this is the direct link to Google's 
> help article on using Docs with a screen reader. This applies to all 
> screen readers, including JAWS.
>
> https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Santiago and Miso. So is it best to use Docs in its Web browser 
>> form?
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I use Google drive and Google Doc with JAWS 2018 and using Google
>>> Chrome. I sometimes pair it with my braille display.
>>>
>>> Although it is probably not most up-to-date info at this point, I
>>> found this link helpful when I was getting started.
>>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm
>>>
>>> MK
>>>
>>>> On 2/25/19, Michael Capelle via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
>>>> I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to 
>>>> enable
>>>>
>>>> accessible mode.
>>>> HTH.
>>>> Mike.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum
>>>> Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
>>>>
>>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>>>
>>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has 
>>>> jumped
>>>>
>>>> entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for 
>>>> virtually
>>>> everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work 
>>>> with
>>>> Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver 
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent
>>>> updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with 
>>>> a
>>>> Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better.
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program 
>>>> on
>>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an 
>>>> interface
>>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs 
>>>> files
>>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to 
>>>> read,
>>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From m.capelle at charter.net  Mon Feb 25 17:45:30 2019
From: m.capelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:45:30 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
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make sure you have the latest NVDA with chrome.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Santiago H via NABS-L
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:42 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Santiago H
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS

It's interesting that you mention that, because last time I tried using Docs 
with NVDA, it was more of a mess than with JAWS. I'll have to check it out 
with NVDA again then.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>
> Just to add to what has been said, when I was working with technology 
> students over the summer, NVDA with chrome seemed the best combination. 
> Jaws still has it’s weird glitches with docs that NVDA does a better job 
> dealing with. The google drive interface is a mess though, no matter the 
> screen reader. Dropbox is oddly still more accessible for file sharing. 
> You shouldn’t have many problems with docs, sheets, or slides though.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Santiago H via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I feel like that's the best option. The iOS app is accessible, but 
>> lately it has been having issues when collaborating on a document with 
>> other people at the same time. Also, this is the direct link to Google's 
>> help article on using Docs with a screen reader. This applies to all 
>> screen readers, including JAWS.
>>
>> https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Santiago and Miso. So is it best to use Docs in its Web browser 
>>> form?
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>
>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I use Google drive and Google Doc with JAWS 2018 and using Google
>>>> Chrome. I sometimes pair it with my braille display.
>>>>
>>>> Although it is probably not most up-to-date info at this point, I
>>>> found this link helpful when I was getting started.
>>>> https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm
>>>>
>>>> MK
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/25/19, Michael Capelle via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I use google drive with NVDA and SATOGO, with no issues.
>>>>> I know under the google account preferences, there is a check box, to 
>>>>> enable
>>>>>
>>>>> accessible mode.
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:43 AM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: Chris Nusbaum
>>>>> Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>>>>
>>>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has 
>>>>> jumped
>>>>>
>>>>> entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for 
>>>>> virtually
>>>>> everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work 
>>>>> with
>>>>> Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with 
>>>>> VoiceOver and
>>>>>
>>>>> (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent
>>>>> updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs 
>>>>> with a
>>>>> Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be 
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program 
>>>>> on
>>>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to 
>>>>> at
>>>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an 
>>>>> interface
>>>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs 
>>>>> files
>>>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to 
>>>>> read,
>>>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I 
>>>>> use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NABS-L mailing list
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From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 18:22:10 2019
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (simon bonenfant)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:22:10 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
Message-ID: <5c74326e.1c69fb81.c6167.864a@mx.google.com>

Hello All. From what I've found Google Docs with Jaws is not that great. It's difficult to even get to the edit field not to mention it's a bit laggy when typing. As far as google drive and docs applications I can't say about them because my school uses the google classroom platform. 
However when I open things from Google Classroom they open in docs so that part I am a little familiar with. I would simly suggest downloading the file as a word document, editing it in word, then emailing it to the teacher. To do this within a google doc press altogether shift   then the letter f. That will take you to the menu bar of docs. Press the down arrow to an option that is labeled as download as. Phess the right arrow to find the list of document formats then press up arrow until you find the microsoft word docx option. 
Once you press enter the file will begin downloading. The thing with google docs is the menu structure with keyboard commands is different. 
This is because google docs has their  own accessibility mode. It needs a lot of work in my opinion but anyway that mode replaces the commands that work in a regular web browser and changes them slightly. 
By the way it has also been suggested to me to use the firefox browser with Jaws. I thought it would work better with Chrome but that is not working that well and my use with firefox seems to work a little better  then Chrome. 
Thanks. 
Simon. 
Sent from my braille note touch.

On Feb 25, 2019 11:43 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Fellow NABSTERS: 
>
> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would be better. 
>
> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read, write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use? 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Chris Nusbaum 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From misokwak12 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 18:43:36 2019
From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:43:36 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
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in my personal experience lately, I find that Chrome is more
compatible than Firefox, but of course you should experiment with
different options and see what makes the most sense for you.
Downloading it as word file and editing it, or writing what you want
to write in a ms word or notepad, then copy and pasting it to the
Google Doc is a great option.
The first option can be little cumbersome/inconvenient, however, when
you are working in a group collaboration.
Miso

On 2/25/19, simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello All. From what I've found Google Docs with Jaws is not that great.
> It's difficult to even get to the edit field not to mention it's a bit laggy
> when typing. As far as google drive and docs applications I can't say about
> them because my school uses the google classroom platform.
> However when I open things from Google Classroom they open in docs so that
> part I am a little familiar with. I would simly suggest downloading the file
> as a word document, editing it in word, then emailing it to the teacher. To
> do this within a google doc press altogether shift   then the letter f. That
> will take you to the menu bar of docs. Press the down arrow to an option
> that is labeled as download as. Phess the right arrow to find the list of
> document formats then press up arrow until you find the microsoft word docx
> option.
> Once you press enter the file will begin downloading. The thing with google
> docs is the menu structure with keyboard commands is different.
> This is because google docs has their  own accessibility mode. It needs a
> lot of work in my opinion but anyway that mode replaces the commands that
> work in a regular web browser and changes them slightly.
> By the way it has also been suggested to me to use the firefox browser with
> Jaws. I thought it would work better with Chrome but that is not working
> that well and my use with firefox seems to work a little better  then
> Chrome.
> Thanks.
> Simon.
> Sent from my braille note touch.
>
> On Feb 25, 2019 11:43 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>
>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has
>> jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for
>> virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to
>> work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with
>> VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems
>> that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google
>> docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would
>> be better.
>>
>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
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From blindtecheverything at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 19:26:23 2019
From: blindtecheverything at gmail.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:26:23 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
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For drive access, Google supplies an application known as the. Drive file stream, which will allow you to access your google drive files directly through your local file browser. I could agree with others that for apps such as Docs, Slides and Sheets I had a better luck with NVDA on Chrome for sure, though for whatever reason Google recommended using Google apps with Firefox. The lag is evident though because the way Google apps work over the cloud and for real time collaboration. I would love to see Google developing dedicated apps for their suite of apps for both Mac and Windows for improved accessibility.

Hope this helps,

Seyoon

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> in my personal experience lately, I find that Chrome is more
> compatible than Firefox, but of course you should experiment with
> different options and see what makes the most sense for you.
> Downloading it as word file and editing it, or writing what you want
> to write in a ms word or notepad, then copy and pasting it to the
> Google Doc is a great option.
> The first option can be little cumbersome/inconvenient, however, when
> you are working in a group collaboration.
> Miso
> 
> On 2/25/19, simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>> Hello All. From what I've found Google Docs with Jaws is not that great.
>> It's difficult to even get to the edit field not to mention it's a bit laggy
>> when typing. As far as google drive and docs applications I can't say about
>> them because my school uses the google classroom platform.
>> However when I open things from Google Classroom they open in docs so that
>> part I am a little familiar with. I would simly suggest downloading the file
>> as a word document, editing it in word, then emailing it to the teacher. To
>> do this within a google doc press altogether shift   then the letter f. That
>> will take you to the menu bar of docs. Press the down arrow to an option
>> that is labeled as download as. Phess the right arrow to find the list of
>> document formats then press up arrow until you find the microsoft word docx
>> option.
>> Once you press enter the file will begin downloading. The thing with google
>> docs is the menu structure with keyboard commands is different.
>> This is because google docs has their  own accessibility mode. It needs a
>> lot of work in my opinion but anyway that mode replaces the commands that
>> work in a regular web browser and changes them slightly.
>> By the way it has also been suggested to me to use the firefox browser with
>> Jaws. I thought it would work better with Chrome but that is not working
>> that well and my use with firefox seems to work a little better  then
>> Chrome.
>> Thanks.
>> Simon.
>> Sent from my braille note touch.
>> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019 11:43 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>> 
>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has
>>> jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for
>>> virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to
>>> work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with
>>> VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems
>>> that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google
>>> docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would
>>> be better.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum
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From braillemasterjustin at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 20:06:53 2019
From: braillemasterjustin at gmail.com (Justin Heard)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:06:53 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <23A13A56-2D5C-402E-B1BD-E4AE99AADC8C@gmail.com>
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I haven't ever heard it called Drive File Stream, so I might be talking 
about another Windows Desktop application. I have had horrible 
experiences with the desktop app. When I create folders from there, I 
don't see them online or in the mobile app. then, once I have the folder 
created, when I put something in them from my computer, it doesn't 
automatically upload. I'm sure there's a solution to this problem. I 
really haven't looked yet. The mobile app is the best way I have found 
to access files so far.


On 2/25/2019 2:26 PM, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L wrote:
> For drive access, Google supplies an application known as the. Drive file stream, which will allow you to access your google drive files directly through your local file browser. I could agree with others that for apps such as Docs, Slides and Sheets I had a better luck with NVDA on Chrome for sure, though for whatever reason Google recommended using Google apps with Firefox. The lag is evident though because the way Google apps work over the cloud and for real time collaboration. I would love to see Google developing dedicated apps for their suite of apps for both Mac and Windows for improved accessibility.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Seyoon
>
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> in my personal experience lately, I find that Chrome is more
>> compatible than Firefox, but of course you should experiment with
>> different options and see what makes the most sense for you.
>> Downloading it as word file and editing it, or writing what you want
>> to write in a ms word or notepad, then copy and pasting it to the
>> Google Doc is a great option.
>> The first option can be little cumbersome/inconvenient, however, when
>> you are working in a group collaboration.
>> Miso
>>
>> On 2/25/19, simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>> Hello All. From what I've found Google Docs with Jaws is not that great.
>>> It's difficult to even get to the edit field not to mention it's a bit laggy
>>> when typing. As far as google drive and docs applications I can't say about
>>> them because my school uses the google classroom platform.
>>> However when I open things from Google Classroom they open in docs so that
>>> part I am a little familiar with. I would simly suggest downloading the file
>>> as a word document, editing it in word, then emailing it to the teacher. To
>>> do this within a google doc press altogether shift   then the letter f. That
>>> will take you to the menu bar of docs. Press the down arrow to an option
>>> that is labeled as download as. Phess the right arrow to find the list of
>>> document formats then press up arrow until you find the microsoft word docx
>>> option.
>>> Once you press enter the file will begin downloading. The thing with google
>>> docs is the menu structure with keyboard commands is different.
>>> This is because google docs has their  own accessibility mode. It needs a
>>> lot of work in my opinion but anyway that mode replaces the commands that
>>> work in a regular web browser and changes them slightly.
>>> By the way it has also been suggested to me to use the firefox browser with
>>> Jaws. I thought it would work better with Chrome but that is not working
>>> that well and my use with firefox seems to work a little better  then
>>> Chrome.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Simon.
>>> Sent from my braille note touch.
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2019 11:43 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>>>
>>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has
>>>> jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for
>>>> virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to
>>>> work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with
>>>> VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems
>>>> that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google
>>>> docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would
>>>> be better.
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
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From schoi09 at outlook.com  Mon Feb 25 20:27:31 2019
From: schoi09 at outlook.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 20:27:31 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <b23882d8-b239-262d-13dc-ea7de41337f4@gmail.com>
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	<CAMe9x_EbQcjY4fnpYppy_7o5FNF5Pauy15S74bJz2qhGMziJKA@mail.gmail.com>
	<23A13A56-2D5C-402E-B1BD-E4AE99AADC8C@gmail.com>
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https://support.google.com/drive/answer/7329379?hl=en

It’s a support doc directly from Google. I believe there are two different variation of the sync apps, File Stream and Backup & Sync. I believe both are network based so they. Will sync directly with Google cloud, correct me if I’m wrong.



On Feb 25, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

I haven't ever heard it called Drive File Stream, so I might be talking about another Windows Desktop application. I have had horrible experiences with the desktop app. When I create folders from there, I don't see them online or in the mobile app. then, once I have the folder created, when I put something in them from my computer, it doesn't automatically upload. I'm sure there's a solution to this problem. I really haven't looked yet. The mobile app is the best way I have found to access files so far.


On 2/25/2019 2:26 PM, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L wrote:
For drive access, Google supplies an application known as the. Drive file stream, which will allow you to access your google drive files directly through your local file browser. I could agree with others that for apps such as Docs, Slides and Sheets I had a better luck with NVDA on Chrome for sure, though for whatever reason Google recommended using Google apps with Firefox. The lag is evident though because the way Google apps work over the cloud and for real time collaboration. I would love to see Google developing dedicated apps for their suite of apps for both Mac and Windows for improved accessibility.

Hope this helps,

Seyoon

On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

in my personal experience lately, I find that Chrome is more
compatible than Firefox, but of course you should experiment with
different options and see what makes the most sense for you.
Downloading it as word file and editing it, or writing what you want
to write in a ms word or notepad, then copy and pasting it to the
Google Doc is a great option.
The first option can be little cumbersome/inconvenient, however, when
you are working in a group collaboration.
Miso

On 2/25/19, simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org> <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
Hello All. From what I've found Google Docs with Jaws is not that great.
It's difficult to even get to the edit field not to mention it's a bit laggy
when typing. As far as google drive and docs applications I can't say about
them because my school uses the google classroom platform.
However when I open things from Google Classroom they open in docs so that
part I am a little familiar with. I would simly suggest downloading the file
as a word document, editing it in word, then emailing it to the teacher. To
do this within a google doc press altogether shift   then the letter f. That
will take you to the menu bar of docs. Press the down arrow to an option
that is labeled as download as. Phess the right arrow to find the list of
document formats then press up arrow until you find the microsoft word docx
option.
Once you press enter the file will begin downloading. The thing with google
docs is the menu structure with keyboard commands is different.
This is because google docs has their  own accessibility mode. It needs a
lot of work in my opinion but anyway that mode replaces the commands that
work in a regular web browser and changes them slightly.
By the way it has also been suggested to me to use the firefox browser with
Jaws. I thought it would work better with Chrome but that is not working
that well and my use with firefox seems to work a little better  then
Chrome.
Thanks.
Simon.
Sent from my braille note touch.

On Feb 25, 2019 11:43 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>
wrote:
Hi Fellow NABSTERS:

My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has
jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for
virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to
work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with
VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems
that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google
docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would
be better.

I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?

Thanks,

Chris Nusbaum
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From schoi09 at outlook.com  Mon Feb 25 21:26:12 2019
From: schoi09 at outlook.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:26:12 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and JAWS
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	<23A13A56-2D5C-402E-B1BD-E4AE99AADC8C@gmail.com>,
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Maybe perhaps, to download file stream I do believe Google makes you sign in with your G-suite for work/school account. I have file stream on my Mac and seems to keep up with all of my files pretty well. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I haven't ever heard it called Drive File Stream, so I might be talking about another Windows Desktop application. I have had horrible experiences with the desktop app. When I create folders from there, I don't see them online or in the mobile app. then, once I have the folder created, when I put something in them from my computer, it doesn't automatically upload. I'm sure there's a solution to this problem. I really haven't looked yet. The mobile app is the best way I have found to access files so far.
> 
> 
>> On 2/25/2019 2:26 PM, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L wrote:
>> For drive access, Google supplies an application known as the. Drive file stream, which will allow you to access your google drive files directly through your local file browser. I could agree with others that for apps such as Docs, Slides and Sheets I had a better luck with NVDA on Chrome for sure, though for whatever reason Google recommended using Google apps with Firefox. The lag is evident though because the way Google apps work over the cloud and for real time collaboration. I would love to see Google developing dedicated apps for their suite of apps for both Mac and Windows for improved accessibility.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Seyoon
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> in my personal experience lately, I find that Chrome is more
>>> compatible than Firefox, but of course you should experiment with
>>> different options and see what makes the most sense for you.
>>> Downloading it as word file and editing it, or writing what you want
>>> to write in a ms word or notepad, then copy and pasting it to the
>>> Google Doc is a great option.
>>> The first option can be little cumbersome/inconvenient, however, when
>>> you are working in a group collaboration.
>>> Miso
>>> 
>>>> On 2/25/19, simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>> Hello All. From what I've found Google Docs with Jaws is not that great.
>>>> It's difficult to even get to the edit field not to mention it's a bit laggy
>>>> when typing. As far as google drive and docs applications I can't say about
>>>> them because my school uses the google classroom platform.
>>>> However when I open things from Google Classroom they open in docs so that
>>>> part I am a little familiar with. I would simly suggest downloading the file
>>>> as a word document, editing it in word, then emailing it to the teacher. To
>>>> do this within a google doc press altogether shift   then the letter f. That
>>>> will take you to the menu bar of docs. Press the down arrow to an option
>>>> that is labeled as download as. Phess the right arrow to find the list of
>>>> document formats then press up arrow until you find the microsoft word docx
>>>> option.
>>>> Once you press enter the file will begin downloading. The thing with google
>>>> docs is the menu structure with keyboard commands is different.
>>>> This is because google docs has their  own accessibility mode. It needs a
>>>> lot of work in my opinion but anyway that mode replaces the commands that
>>>> work in a regular web browser and changes them slightly.
>>>> By the way it has also been suggested to me to use the firefox browser with
>>>> Jaws. I thought it would work better with Chrome but that is not working
>>>> that well and my use with firefox seems to work a little better  then
>>>> Chrome.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Simon.
>>>> Sent from my braille note touch.
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2019 11:43 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Fellow NABSTERS:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My college is one of the ever-increasing number of schools which has
>>>>> jumped entirely on the Google train and is now using G-Suite apps for
>>>>> virtually everything. I have long thought that the most accessible way to
>>>>> work with Google Docs and Google Drive is to use their apps on iOS with
>>>>> VoiceOver and (if one is available) a Braille display. However, it seems
>>>>> that recent updates to both the Docs app and iOS have made editing Google
>>>>> docs with a Braille display a bit tricky. So I'm wondering if a PC would
>>>>> be better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have noticed that a friend of mine is using the Google Drive program on
>>>>> Windows very successfully. From what I have observed, she is able to at
>>>>> least save Word files to and open them from Google Drive with an interface
>>>>> similar to Dropbox's. However, I don't know how nicely Google Docs files
>>>>> play with JAWS at this point. So, is there a good accessible way to read,
>>>>> write and edit Google docs on a PC with JAWS? If so, what should I use?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Tue Feb 26 00:33:04 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:33:04 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Virtual Meeting
Message-ID: <CACud-vGNLpFX46UhFgAu7CB2SnKP9mUtLcoVa=khf3Q4UFJTjg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear NFB Students:

If you can not make to the meeting that is okay. I may host more in the
evenings around 8 eastern time. I plan to have a recap around 8 eastern on
Wednesday if you are interested. Just let me know and I will set up a
conference for 8 PM as well.  I have a book to talk about as well in the
recap meeting if you guys are interested.

The kick off of the real meeting is at 5 PM eastern. Recap is TBD
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From janae.burgmeier at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 01:37:18 2019
From: janae.burgmeier at gmail.com (Janae Burgmeier)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:37:18 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Student Division Building - Outreach
Message-ID: <CAPwut4mz9z+fNoUrdOd-FNK=+H53tc5FMjtYRR6fYaLo8S18zQ@mail.gmail.com>

Suggestions for the question "How can we get more students one our calls?"

Continue to have calls even though not that many people show up. Invite
affiliate board members to join your calls and start building programming.
Even if only a few students come to each call, if you are being intentional
about keeping to your schedule, that is still a valuable lesson you are
learning by planning a conference call and reaching out to people who can
present.

Make it fun. Be sure you are reaching out to the students you know just to
say hi. Done just call on people when you need them. Put their birthdays in
your phone and treat each other like real people. If you are working on a
tough project, remember to crack jokes and rag on each other a bit (within
reason). Its not like anyone is getting paid for this gig so making it fun
is really important in making sure you are maintaining existing
relationships.

If you are trying to reach a new group of students, have an outreach event.
See if your affiliate is willing to pay for pizza and advertise everywhere
you can. Invite people on facebook and e mail the disability offices in
colleges in your state. Iowa has made a spreadsheet which has the name, e
mail, and phone number for every college disability office in the state.
The work was time consuming, however now we have an easy outreach list.

Hope this helps!

Janae Burgmeier

Board Member | National Association of Blind Students

   A proud division of the National federation of the Blind

(319) 899-4329
Janae.burgmeier at gmail.com | www.nabslink.org

From johnawright98 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 01:38:24 2019
From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (johnawright98 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 20:38:24 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] March Madness Interest Poll
Message-ID: <2DE7C172-176F-40E8-9C2E-405CD0173A0D@gmail.com>

Hi, everyone! 

It is almost time for March Madness, and NABS is considering hosting a March Madness bracket this year. The cost would be $20 per person to enter, and there would be a cash prize at the end. The amount of the cash prize depends on how many people participate. Please take a few moments to respond to our Facebook poll and let us know if you would be interested in participating. Note: if you respond “yes” to the poll, you are not committing to participate, you are simply stating general interest. 

Here’s the link to the poll: https://www.facebook.com/100000343243851/posts/2192579950763425?sfns=mo

Please share! Thanks, 

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
Director, ABLE Mercer

From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Wed Feb 27 09:18:56 2019
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:18:56 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Subminimum Wages in Your Student Body
Message-ID: <BYAPR13MB27740F2FA10F03B825868B3F89740@BYAPR13MB2774.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Aloha to the members and leaders of the National Association of Blind Students!

I am proud to announce the launch of the newest initiative of the Legislative Advocacy Committee. Every theme in this initiative is likely going to be familiar: writing, subminimum wages, and school newspapers.

As a proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind, part of our task is to carry the message of the Federation into the unique space that we occupy: the student bodies of high schools, community colleges, and four-year colleges and universities. We have unique opportunities to use our connections to student bodies to get them talking about subminimum wages for workers with disabilities. Maybe some of us will even succeed at building coalitions with student governments and campus organizations. This is already happening in Hawaii, and it is making a noticeable difference in the political scene.

The ask is simple. Please write and publish articles in school and university newspapers to inform your student bodies about the issue of subminimum wages for workers with disabilities. Here is an example of one that I wrote: "Workers with Disabilities Deserve Protections<http://www.theeastcarolinian.com/opinion/article_3bd4ad1e-2e60-11e9-ba0b-7b14afce5aed.html>." If you have room to mention the bill numbers to identify the federal bills, and state bills if your state has one, to end the payment of subminimum wages, that might help guide people to take action. Not every school has a newspaper, so, if you don't have one, I encourage you to write for a local newspaper that your student body might read.

As students, most of us often feel stressed when it comes to writing. We always have assignments and deadlines, and we don't always know what to write. This will be different, though. This is a topic that we already understand better than 99 percent of the students on our campus. School newspapers are always looking for interesting new content, and they always have a place where students like us can submit op-ed style articles, opinion pieces, guest columns, or letters to the editor. Please just take a few minutes to tell them all what's going on with subminimum wages. After all, our classmates are going to college to build their earning potential so that they can earn a real wage, too.

Once you've published in your school newspapers, I encourage you to remember that this is only a starting point. Publishing can be addicting, and you can continue to use your student brains and writing skills to keep publishing in more newspapers and magazines. The further our message carries, the stronger our movement will be.

Don't forget, you have tons of Federationists available to help. Our movement is 50,000 members strong, and we are all here to help each other. I am happy to be a resource to anyone who needs me, and I'm sure you hear the same from your local leaders, too.

Once you get these articles published, please share them on social media and spread the message even further! I would love to see these articles posted on the NABS-L mailing list.

Let's go build the Federation!

Justin M. Hideaki Salisbury
he/him/his
Chair | Legislative Advocacy Committee
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
(808) 797-8606
president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org<http://www.nabslink.org/>




From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Wed Feb 27 13:52:02 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 08:52:02 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Virtual meeting
Message-ID: <CACud-vGYKJFMTmO95oQVQTirmfevaWFDjZiBj3LVhnzzMRmQhA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi NFB Students:

This is a reminder of the upcoming meeting. I am happy to have you join. We
are going to discuss the in the meeting the following.

Meeting phone number is 605-313-4171 access code is 799307#


1. Self advocacy
2. News and updates about the group.
3. Planning for future meetings.
4. What are your hobbies?
5. Where do you want to go with the group.

We also have some news in our newsletter. attached Bellow.

Please take a few minutes and fill out this form. If you are interested.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSepLH-GyEK1YxxrrNe15Bc5oHhraAAaZv4IYKPGta9h7y9pDA/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1&usp=mail_form_link





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*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252
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