From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 04:54:15 2019 From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 00:54:15 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] June NABS Notes Message-ID: <109F19D3-2A85-451D-BC1F-2474C1E4EF29@gmail.com> Hey Nabsters, The countdown to convention is in the single digits. We are thrilled for our family reunion, and we hope you can join us for all of the fun! As our anticipation builds in this final week, we encourage you to check out this month's issue of the NABS Notes. Lots of info and opportunities you don't want to miss! You can access the June NABS Notes at the following link: http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-june-2019 For your convenience, the document is also attached at the bottom of this email. Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions. See you in Vegas, in person or in spirit! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nominations close at the end of the day tomorrow, July 3. All submissions are anonomous, and if you have multiple people in mind for an award, feel free to fill out the form as many times as you would like. We will be voting at national convention, so make sure to come on down to the NABS Business Meeting happening on July 8 to share some laughs and determine our winners. Visit https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd7tQctcCAZMCh7-dpt81dp6DbbnJ1HszzRdEp2HsXwmB2T-w/viewform If you have any questions, please reach out to me at trishak.nfb at gmail.com. See you very soon! Best, Trisha Kulkarni Stanford University | Class of 2022 2nd Vice President | California Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind 937.361.2363 trishak.nfb at gmail.com From elizabeth.rouse14 at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 18:50:43 2019 From: elizabeth.rouse14 at gmail.com (elizabeth.rouse14 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 13:50:43 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Convention merchandise! Message-ID: <8EE7DDC8-7A60-4AB1-BFA9-4EA9A520C1AB@gmail.com> Greetings National Association of Blind Students! We are bursting with excitement to see you all in less than a week! NABS will be stationed at table C 26 in the exhibit hall this year. We will be selling T-shirts, water bottles, and keychains! Descriptions are below, and images are attached. T-shirts are $15 apiece. This heather blue shirt features a custom design sporting the phrase “You don’t need to see it to achieve it” below a depiction of the Vegas skyline with a sun behind it. Below this catchy slogan is our name, National Association of Blind Students. Water bottles are $10 apiece. There will be two colors available (blue and black), and the words “National Federation of the Blind” are written down the side in yellow. “Live the life you want” the NFB logo, and “NFB” also frame the bottle. Keychains will be one for $3 or two for $5. Keychains depict the NFB logo and are made in both wood and plexiglass forms. We will accept cash, card or Venmo! If you have any questions, feel free to contact Elizabeth Rouse, fundraising committee chair, at elizabeth.rouse14 at gmail.com See you in Vegas! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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GET READY TO HAVE A BLAST Good afternoon, I hope you guys are all doing well. We are a day away form independents day. *Website* *(336) 272-0501 ext 307* <(336)%20272-0501%20ext%20307> Share Via: *Check out my website* ‌ Created with Wix.com.‌ Love It?‌ *Try It! It's Free.* *You've received this email because you are a subscriber of this site* *If you feel you received it by mistake or wish to unsubscribe, click here* -- *Selvin Linder * 336-645-0252 From jj at bestmidi.com Thu Jul 4 04:47:49 2019 From: jj at bestmidi.com (J.J. Meddaugh) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 00:47:49 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] A. T. Guys in Las Vegas, Specials, Preorders, and More Message-ID: It's one of the busiest times of the year for us at A T Guys, it's Convention Time! Read on to learn about our special convention events and how to preorder your latest gadgets. If you're not joining us, we still have a lot of new product news and info to share, so read on. Everything below is available from our booth (a-27 and A-28) and on our website at www.atguys.com NFB 2019 in Las Vegas Preorders The NFB convention in Las Vegas promises to be one of the biggest ever, and we're excited to be a part of it. Save time in the exhibit hall by placing a preorder now and picking up your item at the booth. Use coupon code nfb19 at checkout. pick up your item at booths A27 and A28 during exhibit hall hours. We'll make sure we have your order available for pickup, so you do not have to pay for shipping! Preorders are available for most items we carry. Read on for a complete list at the end of this newsletter. Send us a message with any questions you may have. Introducing a Bluetooth Speaker with Pizzazz We've been looking for a quality Bluetooth speaker that is both affordable and has big sound, and now we've found it. The Tribit Maxboom features 360--degree sound, is waterproof, and works with both Bluetooth and wired connections. If you have our SoundPods speaker, this one is at least twice as loud but still quite portable. Plus, you can pair two speakers together to hear your music or audio everywhere. purchase the MaxBoom 360 speaker for $69.99 A Quality Folding Bluetooth Keyboard People have been asking us for years for a keyboard that is portable but still with full-size keys. We've now found your solution, the Plugable Bluetooth keyboard. This keyboard has a stainless steel finish and a tri-fold design, with near full-size keys when unfolded and compact storage. The key layout includes both a number row and function keys, with the keys you use in their familiar places. It automatically turns on when unfolded, and turns off again when stored. It also works as a USB keyboard. order the Plugable Bluetooth Keyboard for $54.95 Introducing the Braille Me Low-Cost Braille Display A. T. Guys is now an official distributor for the Braille Me, the low-cost braille display for under 500 bucks. We've been following this product since its initial launch and think it's come a long way. It features 20 refreshable braille cells with cursor routing, a built-in text editor with braille translation, and Bluetooth and USB support. It can connect to your iOS or Android device as well as the NVDA screen reader. Stop by the booth to try it out for yourself, or learn more on our site. order the Braille Me for $499 Get a Free WayTag, plus Convention discounts on WayAround If you haven't heard, WayAround is a new system that you can use to tag the important items in your life. Mark your clothes using buttons, your food using magnets or stickers, or your office using magnets or clips. Using the free WayAround app for your iPhone or Android, simply touch your phone to the tag and easily record or hear information you have saved. We want everyone to be able to try out WayAround, so we're offering a free Waytag sticker for a limited time, plus 10 percent off all WayAround products through July 15 and at convention. New Lower Prices on Aftershokz Headsets We've lowered the prices on our most popular models of Aftershokz headsets. If you haven't tried out the bone conduction technology of Aftershokz in awhile, things have changed a lot over the past few years. Trekz Air is now available for $119.95, with Trekz Titanium and Titanium Mini available for $79.95. New: Sleep in Peace and Comfort with SleepPhones. SleepPhones are the comfortable way to wear headphones while you are fast asleep. The soft fabric is comfortable to wear while in your bed, and the fabric can optionally cover your eyes for a peaceful sleep. Connect wirelessly to your phone to hear only your music, white noise, or other audio. Purchase the SleepPhones Wireless Headset for $99.95 Other Items Available for Preorder Here's a list of other items we'll have available this year. • Energrid Portable 15,000 mAh Power Bank Battery Pack - Sale! $69 Keep your devices charged with this portable charger which vibrates or beeps to let you know how much charge is left in your battery. Charge your iPhone up to 5 times on a single charge of the battery. • iOttie iON QI Wireless 10W Fast Charging Stand - $44.95 If you have an iPhone 8 or newer, or a modern Android device, you can now charge it without plugging it into a cable. Keep one by your bed or on your desk for a simple charging solution. • Micro-Speak 8gb Digital Recorder - $59.95 A simple-to-use voice recorder with loud sound and voice prompts. Stores up to 96 hours of audio. • SoundTrax Bluetooth Headset - $59.95 From the same company which produced the popular SoundPods speaker comes a Bluetooth stereo headset with the same great features. Wirelessly connect to your phone or play music using the built-in Micro SD card slot or a headset adapter. These comfortable on-ear headphones featured padded cups and deep bass. Works for up to 30 hours on a single chaarge. • Aluminum USB External Stereo Sound Adapter for Windows and Mac - $10 A simple way to add an additional audio device to your computer. Separate your screen reader from your music so it doesn't go out over your speakers. • SoundPods Bluetooth Wireless Portable Speaker - Sale! $39.95 This little speaker puts out big sound! The SoundPod by Blue Tiger is a wireless or wired heavy duty speaker with exceptional sound quality that fits in the palm of your hand. With long battery life, the SoundPOD will be putting out your tunes all day long. Also features a Micro SD card slot to play music directly from the speaker. • Matias Aluminum Bluetooth Keyboard - Sale! $95 The Matias Aluminum Bluetooth Keyboard feels just like an Apple keyboard and also includes a dedicated numeric pad and arrow keys in the familiar layout. Plus, connect the Matias to up to 4 devices at once and switch between them with the press of a key. Also, charging your keyboard all the time is a thing of the past, as the Matias features up to 1 year of battery life on a single charge. • RII 66-key Mini Bluetooth Keyboard - Sale! $39 While supplies last. This is our last batch of this popular palm-sized Bluetooth keyboard. • Tactile Screen Protectors - Starting at $9 Tempered glass protectors will be available and on sale for $25. Featuring the full line of SpeedDots tactile screen overlays for iPhone, iPad, iPad Mini, and iPod Touch, including the iPhone XR and XS. Choose tempered glass for additional protection. Type with confidence. We will do our best to get items not on the above list. If we are not able to bring an item to convention, we will let you know and ship it to you for free. have questions? Comments? As always, we'd love to hear from you. Phone (call/text): (269) 216-4798 (please be sure to leave a message) Skype: atguys E-mail: support at atguys.com From johnawright98 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 05:54:00 2019 From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (Johna Wright) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 01:54:00 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Networking Event Reminder Message-ID: <59ADD229-87AF-4B10-89E1-3A3741B9AEE1@gmail.com> Hey friends! Convention officially starts in just TWO DAYS and the NABS board can barely contain their excitement. We know you’re probably frantically packing right now, but we wanted to give a quick reminder about our very first NABS event that will be happening in Vegas. Whether you’re a NABS newbie or a seasoned student, make sure you leave a spot in your busy schedules for the NABS Networking event! There aren’t many better ways to kick off convention than meeting new friends and catching up with old ones. Join us in South Pacific Ballroom D beginning at 7:30pm on Sunday, July 7th. The NABS board can’t wait to welcome you!! Also I’d love it if you stopped by and said hey to me (Johna), you’ll know me because I have a thick southern accent. See you in Vegas! Johna Wright Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE Mercer From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu Fri Jul 5 18:21:32 2019 From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:21:32 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Youth Group News Message-ID: Hi Guys: Thank you guys for being a big part of the youth group. unfortunately the center has Closed. The YEAG Group was owned by The Joy A Shabazz center. I was happy to be a part of the group. Those who subscribed to my site were removed. The website is now closed. -- *Selvin Linder * 336-645-0252 From johnawright98 at gmail.com Sun Jul 7 23:25:41 2019 From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (Johna Wright) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 16:25:41 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] REMINDER: NABS Networking TONIGHT Message-ID: <5FC68E6D-B608-4812-90B2-3820AAE1EACC@gmail.com> Hello, students! DON’T FORGET: the NABS Networking event is happening tonight from 7:30pm-9:30pm in South Pacific Ballroom D. Come out and meet new people from all over the country, while also catching up with long-time friends. We are going to have lots of fun so you don’t wanna miss it! Also, remember that this is a required event for all participants in the 2019 NABS Mentorship Program (mentors and mentees) as well as all national scholarship finalists. The NABS board is ready to welcome you! #nfb19 #NABSNetworking Cheers, Johna Wright Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE Mercer From trishak.nfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 8 02:42:17 2019 From: trishak.nfb at gmail.com (Trisha Kulkarni) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 19:42:17 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] VOTE VOTE VOTE!!! 2019 NABS Superlatives Happening Now Message-ID: What's Up Students? The time has finally come! Nominations have been submitted and finalists have been chosen for our first ever NABS Superlatives. Now you need to vote! The following form will be live for twenty-four hours and will close at the start of our annual NABS Business Meeting. Visit https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfEcI1V5u4Wm1MYn1sPKsGs898u5jjrOzN-iWJxn4O7iEhcLQ/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1 If you have any questions or need help voting, please reach out to me at trishak.nfb at gmail.com or find me at NABS Networking and registration. Can't wait to see you all tonight! Best, Trisha Trisha Kulkarni Stanford University | Class of 2022 2nd Vice President | California Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind 937.361.2363 trishak.nfb at gmail.com From jim.hulme at gmail.com Mon Jul 8 16:27:50 2019 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 12:27:50 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] How 195 The Globe Will Assist With The Convention Broadcast In Vegas This Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello David, for some reason the number listed on the website for tunein for 195theglobe is not in service 605-468-5783. Can you please try to find a way to get a new number out to listeners as soon as possible so others can listen to the streaming of the 2019 NFB convention? I do not have speakers and have communication problems and I am unable to hear the stream. Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the convention. James Hulme Board Member of Stafford Lions Club Member of National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey At-Large Chapter, South Jersey Shore Chapter, and Technology Division Member of State of New Jersey Department of Human Services New Jersey Commission of the Blind and Visually Impaired 1 Lookout Avenue Barnegat, New Jersey 08005-1367 609-660-0699 (H) 908-868-2836 (M) jim.hulme at gmail.com FB Twitter Blog1 Blog2 Resume About Me On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:45 PM David Dunphy via NABS-L wrote: > Greetings All! > I hope this email finds you well. > I wanted to advise all of you that in additional to the NFB live > streaming options for listening to convention for those who can't > attend, which you can find at > https://www.nfb.org/livestream > we at 195 The Globe are providing additional streaming options for > those who would like to listen on a mobile device or smart speaker. > What does this mean? It simply means that we are relaying what is > broadcast on the English stream to you, so you can hear it on a smart > speaker or mobile device of your choice on our music channel. Where we > were the main source of coverage last year, this year we're relaying > what is brought to you at the Board Of Director's Meeting, the general > sessions and banquet. The above nfb.org page has all the main stream > links for English and Spanish. > So during the times of the board of director's meeting, the general > sessions and banquet, you can ask google, alexa or any smart speaker > you have to play 195 The Globe on Tunein, and it will work. And yes, > Alexa works this time! Grin. > In addition, you can search for 195 The Globe on the google play or > ITunes stores and download our app for listening purposes, and to see > what else we offer in the way of programming. > For anyone wanting to use our app, I'll be providing a brief VoiceOver > demonstration on The Blind Side's first hour with Chris Nusbaum, which > can be heard Tuesday night at 8 PM eastern, then again Thursday > morning at 11 AM eastern at > http://www.195theglobe.com/listen > > In addition, a downloadable link to this mp3 demo will be provided to > you for those who can't listen. > One thing that I will provide for those unable to attend at the > beginning of each general session stream is that I will read you the > agenda for that particular session before it begins, so you know > what's being covered when. > > Lastly, I'd like to thank President Riccobono and the NFB for allowing > the globe to provide this additional resource to you so you have more > ways to listen to the happenings in Vegas. What happens in Vegas won't > stay in Vegas now! > > Please email > ddunphy at 195theglobe.com > if you have any additional questions/concerns/thoughts. > All the best, > David Dunphy > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From johnawright98 at gmail.com Mon Jul 8 20:23:09 2019 From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (Johna Wright) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 13:23:09 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] REMINDER: NABS Business Meeting TONIGHT Message-ID: <14F345F6-A037-4A15-ADC3-B102F1D82636@gmail.com> Hellooooooo students and friends! We know your days are busy with meetings, catching up with friends, networking and making those slots go CHA-CHING! However, we want to remind you that our annual business meeting is happening TONIGHT at 7pm with registration beginning at 6pm. The entrance fee is $5, which gives you voting rights for the elections at the end of the meeting. We take cash and card, but cash is encouraged. Also, if you are interested in supporting NABS by buying T-shirts, water bottles, or keychains, we will be selling them before and after the meeting. Come out and have some fun with us! Also: NABS Superlatives will be announced during the meeting. Cheers, Johna Wright Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE Mercer From trishak.nfb at gmail.com Mon Jul 8 22:59:47 2019 From: trishak.nfb at gmail.com (Trisha Kulkarni) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 15:59:47 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] REMINDER: NABS Business Meeting TONIGHT In-Reply-To: <14F345F6-A037-4A15-ADC3-B102F1D82636@gmail.com> References: <14F345F6-A037-4A15-ADC3-B102F1D82636@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56325384-2F80-436D-A94E-5882DE32C4A9@gmail.com> Also voting for superlatives closes at 7:00 PM! Make sure to get in on the fun. Visit https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfEcI1V5u4Wm1MYn1sPKsGs898u5jjrOzN-iWJxn4O7iEhcLQ/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1 See you soon! Best, Trisha Trisha Kulkarni Stanford University | Class of 2022 2nd Vice President | California Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind 937.361.2363 trishak.nfb at gmail.com > On Jul 8, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L wrote: > > Hellooooooo students and friends! > > We know your days are busy with meetings, catching up with friends, networking and making those slots go CHA-CHING! However, we want to remind you that our annual business meeting is happening TONIGHT at 7pm with registration beginning at 6pm. The entrance fee is $5, which gives you voting rights for the elections at the end of the meeting. We take cash and card, but cash is encouraged. Also, if you are interested in supporting NABS by buying T-shirts, water bottles, or keychains, we will be selling them before and after the meeting. Come out and have some fun with us! Also: NABS Superlatives will be announced during the meeting. > > Cheers, > > Johna Wright > Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division > Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students > Director, ABLE Mercer > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/trishak.nfb%40gmail.com From johnawright98 at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 09:49:51 2019 From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (Johna Wright) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 02:49:51 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] REMINDER: NABS Walk-a-Thon Message-ID: Hey, peeps! Don’t forget about the Walk-A-Thon happening ALL DAY TODAY (12:01am to 11:59pm PDT)! If you signed up to walk, you should have no problem reaching your personal mileage goals in this massive hotel. Grab a group and walk it out!! Let’s support each other as we support the National Association of Blind Students! You can still sign up to walk: https://go.rallyup.com/nabs2019/IGGJAH Cheers, Johna Wright Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE Mercer From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 14:23:47 2019 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 10:23:47 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Blind riders say Metro shutdown is making independent travel nearly impossible - The Washington Post Message-ID: <6007F6FE-0D00-4E00-B751-A49DEE60DF6F@gmail.com> I’m sure that some of you have heard about this issue in Washington DC. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/blind-riders-say-metro-shutdown-is-making-independent-travel-nearly-impossible/2019/06/29/c5d8dcb6-99a3-11e9-8d0a-5edd7e2025b1_story.html Sent from my iPhone From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 14:29:11 2019 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 10:29:11 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Testing email Message-ID: <7EE2DE56-147B-4CD1-A30E-830D5334D0D0@gmail.com> I just want to make sure that the list receives my messages. Sent from my iPhone From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 15:16:11 2019 From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:16:11 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Testing email In-Reply-To: <7EE2DE56-147B-4CD1-A30E-830D5334D0D0@gmail.com> References: <7EE2DE56-147B-4CD1-A30E-830D5334D0D0@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you put in the right address, then there should be no reason why the list serve shouldn’t be receiving anything. Since you put in the right address, then everybody who is on the list should be receiving your messages. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2019, at 10:29, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > I just want to make sure that the list receives my messages. > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com From rloew at ETS.ORG Tue Jul 9 19:11:47 2019 From: rloew at ETS.ORG (Loew, Ruth C) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:11:47 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] updates from ETS Message-ID: Hi, everyone. I'm with the ETS office that deals with accommodations policies for our postsecondary tests - GRE, Praxis, and TOEFL. I know many of you from about 15 years of attending NFB and NABS events, and I lurk on this listserv. As I announced last night at the NABS meeting, I'm retiring from ETS in 2 weeks. After July 26, emails to my ETS email address will bounce; they won't be forwarded. My colleague Morgan Blisard will be taking over my position; however, she is currently out on maternity leave. If you have questions about accommodations on the GRE, TOEFL, Praxis, or GACE tests, and you have already tried contacting Disability Services (stassd at ets.org), please contact Dr. Nora Pollard (npollard at ets.org) and Robert Plienis (rpleinis at ets.org). They can guide you through the system, or refer you to someone else who can do so. Thanks for all you've taught me and others from ETS. Stay tuned for future announcements of usability studies for improved accessibility features on other ETS tests! All the best, Ruth C. Loew, Ph.D. Assistant Director Office of Disability Policy, ETS Fax 609-683-2220 ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. ________________________________ From keribcu at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 20:11:25 2019 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Gmail) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 16:11:25 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] updates from ETS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F8113DC-4548-43E6-A7D2-070947AB1015@gmail.com> I hope that you enjoy your retirement. Congratulations. Keri Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Loew, Ruth C via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, everyone. I'm with the ETS office that deals with accommodations policies for our postsecondary tests - GRE, Praxis, and TOEFL. I know many of you from about 15 years of attending NFB and NABS events, and I lurk on this listserv. As I announced last night at the NABS meeting, I'm retiring from ETS in 2 weeks. After July 26, emails to my ETS email address will bounce; they won't be forwarded. > > My colleague Morgan Blisard will be taking over my position; however, she is currently out on maternity leave. If you have questions about accommodations on the GRE, TOEFL, Praxis, or GACE tests, and you have already tried contacting Disability Services (stassd at ets.org), please contact Dr. Nora Pollard (npollard at ets.org) and Robert Plienis (rpleinis at ets.org). They can guide you through the system, or refer you to someone else who can do so. > > Thanks for all you've taught me and others from ETS. Stay tuned for future announcements of usability studies for improved accessibility features on other ETS tests! All the best, > > Ruth C. Loew, Ph.D. > Assistant Director > Office of Disability Policy, ETS > Fax 609-683-2220 > > > ________________________________ > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. > > > Thank you for your compliance. > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com From blindinsighter at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 21:11:30 2019 From: blindinsighter at gmail.com (Seyoon Choi) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 16:11:30 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] College Board: AP Scores and Experience with Accommodations Message-ID: Greetings students, I hope, for those of you currently in Vegas for the federation student reunion are having a blast so far, but whether you are attending the convention or not, I wanted to bring up a topic of discussions to better understand College Board and your experiences, if had any. I was a high school student who took three advanced placement (AP) courses both my junior and senior year and have subsequently took exams in order for potential college credit chances. I have recently took an AP psychology exam with all the necessary accommodations, consisting of braille testing materials, extra time and a reader/scribe to help with recording my answers to the text booklet. College Board typically releases AP scores right around first week of July, and the procedures remained the same for this year’s score release schedule. I’ll be honest… My score was not what I’ve quite expected, but seemed lower compared to my confidence level and given the fact that I typed my free response questions (FRQ) portion of the exam as stated according to my provided accommodations. My psych teacher and I have both contacted College board and was told that certain portion of the test were invalid and that they will be reevaluating my exam. This seemed to somehow indicate a mishap during the grading process when it came to dealing with either the typed up FRQ responses or somewhere where they might have missed something, just a thought. There was an incident last year when College Board decided to not provide any Braille testing materials for both my US government and English lang exams, which was equally frustrating… Both my school and I contacted College Board to request Braille exams but was told that “There isn’t enough time to send it out” resulting in a reader reading an entire test out loud… Essay/FRQ portions without pieces of evidence to pull from directly in front of me was awfully convenient, well, not so much… Long story short: my typed prompts were deemed unacceptable because the rest of the exams were on paper according to college board, but with enough pressure they were able to bump up my scores accordingly. Given how much frustrations and lack of coordinations and understanding that College Board have with blind students, I would love to know if you have 1: been in a similar situations or 2: your best methods/approach to deal with companies like College Board when it comes to accessibility. Best regards, Seyoon Seyoon Choi Saint Louis University Class of 2023 blindinsighter at gmail.com 314-650-8306 From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 22:03:14 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:03:14 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] College Board: AP Scores and Experience with Accommodations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Seyon, I had a similar issue with my AP European history class in tenth grade, 6 years ago. My score was also considerably lower than I expected, especially since I had taken a final exam administrated by the teacher and had done well. We tried contacting College Board but they couldn't really help. I made the decision to eventually just let it go because I enjoyed AP euro and didn't mind taking history again in college. In hindsight I would have tried to fight it further. Did you talk to your friends who took the exam? In my case, my friends' DBQS and essays were different to mine, which could have explained the problem. Hope this helps, Vejas > On 9 Jul 2019, at 14:11, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L wrote: > > Greetings students, > > I hope, for those of you currently in Vegas for the federation student reunion are having a blast so far, but whether you are attending the convention or not, I wanted to bring up a topic of discussions to better understand College Board and your experiences, if had any. I was a high school student who took three advanced placement (AP) courses both my junior afurther.r year and have subsequently took exams in order for potential college credit chances. I have recently took an AP psychology exam with all the necessary accommodations, consisting of braille testing materials, extra time and a reader/scribe to help with recording my answers to the text booklet. College Board typically releases AP scores right around first week of July, and the procedures remained the same for this year’s score release schedule. I’ll be honest… My score was not what I’ve quite expected, but seemed lower compared to my confidence level and given the fact that I typed my free response questions (FRQ) portion of the exam as stated according to my provided accommodations. My psych teacher and I have both contacted College board and was told that certain portion of the test were invalid and that they will be reevaluating my exam. This seemed to somehow indicate a mishap during the grading process when it came to dealing with either the typed up FRQ responses or somewhere where they might have missed something, just a thought. There was an incident last year when College Board decided to not provide any Braille testing materials for both my US government and English lang exams, which was equally frustrating… Both my school and I contacted College Board to request Braille exams but was told that “There isn’t enough time to send it out” resulting in a reader reading an entire test out loud… Essay/FRQ portions without pieces of evidence to pull from directly in front of me was awfully convenient, well, not so much… Long story short: my typed prompts were deemed unacceptable because the rest of the exams were on paper according to college board, but with enough pressure they were able to bump up my scores accordingly. Given how much frustrations and lack of coordinations and understanding that College Board have with blind students, I would love to know if you have 1: been in a similar situations or 2: your best methods/approach to deal with companies like College Board when it comes to accessibility. > > Best regards, > Seyoon > > Seyoon Choi > Saint Louis University Class of 2023 > blindinsighter at gmail.com > 314-650-8306 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From misokwak12 at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 02:45:18 2019 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 22:45:18 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] College Board: AP Scores and Experience with Accommodations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, The last time I interacted with the College Board was in 2013, so it's been a while but reading this thread makes me think of a few incidents. 1. First, I took 6 AP exams in total throughout my high school career and think that I received fair scoring on all of them, including one that was not as good as I would have liked but I also knew that I struggled a lot... perhaps there is one exam that I think I could have scored 5 instead of 4, but it was also a very difficult exam. I decided not to dispute it because 4 and 5 is not that big of a difference, when it comes to receiving actual college credits(typically just a few unit credit difference). 2. I noticed that every single AP exam I took was different from the version that my sighted classmates took. I suspect this has something to do with College Board's concern of "leaking the test" in the process of getting them transcribed. I do not think it is necessarily fair that my exam was different from that of my classmates, and I do think there is a way to transcribe the same test that my classmates take without risking the information leak during the process of transcribing. That said, I did not raise the issue with the College Board as I thought my tests were scored farily. Sighted students also actually get different versions depending on when they take the test (i.e., if you elect to take the test at a later date because of some conflict such as having two exams being scheduled at the same time) you won't get the same exam that was offered on the first date of that exam. 3. A strange thing happened with my AP European History exam. Initially my score was 4, which I was a bit bummed about but did not dispute because it was still a passing score. However, one full school year later, out of the blue, I got a mail from the College Board notifying me that they found an error in their scoring, so they regraded and increased my score to 5. I think what you experienced with the AP English Language and U.S. government exam is absolutely unacceptable. I have had some frustrations with the College Board while trying to get my accommodation request approved and receive accessible practice materials but not so much in regard to getting the actual exams and scoring... Good news is... you will most likely never have to deal with them once you enter college and get your AP scores sent to your university. Miso On 7/9/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Seyon, > I had a similar issue with my AP European history class in tenth grade, 6 > years ago. My score was also considerably lower than I expected, especially > since I had taken a final exam administrated by the teacher and had done > well. We tried contacting College Board but they couldn't really help. I > made the decision to eventually just let it go because I enjoyed AP euro and > didn't mind taking history again in college. In hindsight I would have tried > to fight it further. > Did you talk to your friends who took the exam? In my case, my friends' DBQS > and essays were different to mine, which could have explained the problem. > Hope this helps, > Vejas > > >> On 9 Jul 2019, at 14:11, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Greetings students, >> >> I hope, for those of you currently in Vegas for the federation student >> reunion are having a blast so far, but whether you are attending the >> convention or not, I wanted to bring up a topic of discussions to better >> understand College Board and your experiences, if had any. I was a high >> school student who took three advanced placement (AP) courses both my >> junior afurther.r year and have subsequently took exams in order for >> potential college credit chances. I have recently took an AP psychology >> exam with all the necessary accommodations, consisting of braille testing >> materials, extra time and a reader/scribe to help with recording my >> answers to the text booklet. College Board typically releases AP scores >> right around first week of July, and the procedures remained the same for >> this year’s score release schedule. I’ll be honest… My score was not what >> I’ve quite expected, but seemed lower compared to my confidence level and >> given the fact that I typed my free response questions (FRQ) portion of >> the exam as stated according to my provided accommodations. My psych >> teacher and I have both contacted College board and was told that certain >> portion of the test were invalid and that they will be reevaluating my >> exam. This seemed to somehow indicate a mishap during the grading process >> when it came to dealing with either the typed up FRQ responses or >> somewhere where they might have missed something, just a thought. There >> was an incident last year when College Board decided to not provide any >> Braille testing materials for both my US government and English lang >> exams, which was equally frustrating… Both my school and I contacted >> College Board to request Braille exams but was told that “There isn’t >> enough time to send it out” resulting in a reader reading an entire test >> out loud… Essay/FRQ portions without pieces of evidence to pull from >> directly in front of me was awfully convenient, well, not so much… Long >> story short: my typed prompts were deemed unacceptable because the rest of >> the exams were on paper according to college board, but with enough >> pressure they were able to bump up my scores accordingly. Given how much >> frustrations and lack of coordinations and understanding that College >> Board have with blind students, I would love to know if you have 1: been >> in a similar situations or 2: your best methods/approach to deal with >> companies like College Board when it comes to accessibility. >> >> Best regards, >> Seyoon >> >> Seyoon Choi >> Saint Louis University Class of 2023 >> blindinsighter at gmail.com >> 314-650-8306 >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > From blindinsighter at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 03:38:59 2019 From: blindinsighter at gmail.com (Seyoon Choi) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 22:38:59 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] College Board: AP Scores and Experience with Accommodations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Reading through these responses seems more comforting! Glad to know that it wasn't just me with interesting experiences. I may end up reaching out to my former AP psych exam friends to see how my exam might have differed from the ones that they took. I'll remain in touch with College Board and see if they are willing to regrade my exam if able, simply because my AP English exam had to be regraded. It's not a big deal if psych class is something that I need to retake since I'm considering on minoring in it anyway, and enjoyed all the class materials. ,Keep the responses coming, because the more I know the better! :) Seyoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:45 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > The last time I interacted with the College Board was in 2013, so it's > been a while but reading this thread makes me think of a few > incidents. > 1. First, I took 6 AP exams in total throughout my high school career > and think that I received fair scoring on all of them, including one > that was not as good as I would have liked but I also knew that I > struggled a lot... perhaps there is one exam that I think I could have > scored 5 instead of 4, but it was also a very difficult exam. I > decided not to dispute it because 4 and 5 is not that big of a > difference, when it comes to receiving actual college > credits(typically just a few unit credit difference). > 2. I noticed that every single AP exam I took was different from the > version that my sighted classmates took. I suspect this has something > to do with College Board's concern of "leaking the test" in the > process of getting them transcribed. I do not think it is necessarily > fair that my exam was different from that of my classmates, and I do > think there is a way to transcribe the same test that my classmates > take without risking the information leak during the process of > transcribing. That said, I did not raise the issue with the College > Board as I thought my tests were scored farily. Sighted students also > actually get different versions depending on when they take the test > (i.e., if you elect to take the test at a later date because of some > conflict such as having two exams being scheduled at the same time) > you won't get the same exam that was offered on the first date of that > exam. > 3. A strange thing happened with my AP European History exam. > Initially my score was 4, which I was a bit bummed about but did not > dispute because it was still a passing score. However, one full school > year later, out of the blue, I got a mail from the College Board > notifying me that they found an error in their scoring, so they > regraded and increased my score to 5. > > I think what you experienced with the AP English Language and U.S. > government exam is absolutely unacceptable. I have had some > frustrations with the College Board while trying to get my > accommodation request approved and receive accessible practice > materials but not so much in regard to getting the actual exams and > scoring... > Good news is... you will most likely never have to deal with them once > you enter college and get your AP scores sent to your university. > > Miso > >> On 7/9/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Seyon, >> I had a similar issue with my AP European history class in tenth grade, 6 >> years ago. My score was also considerably lower than I expected, especially >> since I had taken a final exam administrated by the teacher and had done >> well. We tried contacting College Board but they couldn't really help. I >> made the decision to eventually just let it go because I enjoyed AP euro and >> didn't mind taking history again in college. In hindsight I would have tried >> to fight it further. >> Did you talk to your friends who took the exam? In my case, my friends' DBQS >> and essays were different to mine, which could have explained the problem. >> Hope this helps, >> Vejas >> >> >>> On 9 Jul 2019, at 14:11, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Greetings students, >>> >>> I hope, for those of you currently in Vegas for the federation student >>> reunion are having a blast so far, but whether you are attending the >>> convention or not, I wanted to bring up a topic of discussions to better >>> understand College Board and your experiences, if had any. I was a high >>> school student who took three advanced placement (AP) courses both my >>> junior afurther.r year and have subsequently took exams in order for >>> potential college credit chances. I have recently took an AP psychology >>> exam with all the necessary accommodations, consisting of braille testing >>> materials, extra time and a reader/scribe to help with recording my >>> answers to the text booklet. College Board typically releases AP scores >>> right around first week of July, and the procedures remained the same for >>> this year’s score release schedule. I’ll be honest… My score was not what >>> I’ve quite expected, but seemed lower compared to my confidence level and >>> given the fact that I typed my free response questions (FRQ) portion of >>> the exam as stated according to my provided accommodations. My psych >>> teacher and I have both contacted College board and was told that certain >>> portion of the test were invalid and that they will be reevaluating my >>> exam. This seemed to somehow indicate a mishap during the grading process >>> when it came to dealing with either the typed up FRQ responses or >>> somewhere where they might have missed something, just a thought. There >>> was an incident last year when College Board decided to not provide any >>> Braille testing materials for both my US government and English lang >>> exams, which was equally frustrating… Both my school and I contacted >>> College Board to request Braille exams but was told that “There isn’t >>> enough time to send it out” resulting in a reader reading an entire test >>> out loud… Essay/FRQ portions without pieces of evidence to pull from >>> directly in front of me was awfully convenient, well, not so much… Long >>> story short: my typed prompts were deemed unacceptable because the rest of >>> the exams were on paper according to college board, but with enough >>> pressure they were able to bump up my scores accordingly. Given how much >>> frustrations and lack of coordinations and understanding that College >>> Board have with blind students, I would love to know if you have 1: been >>> in a similar situations or 2: your best methods/approach to deal with >>> companies like College Board when it comes to accessibility. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Seyoon >>> >>> Seyoon Choi >>> Saint Louis University Class of 2023 >>> blindinsighter at gmail.com >>> 314-650-8306 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/blindinsighter%40gmail.com From rloew at ETS.ORG Wed Jul 10 12:55:36 2019 From: rloew at ETS.ORG (Loew, Ruth C) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:55:36 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] updates from ETS Message-ID: I reread my post from yesterday and see that I misspelled an email address. Please note: Your contacts in the ETS of Disability Policy are Nora Pollard (npollard at ets.org) and Robert Plienis (rplienis at ets.org). I mistyped Robert’s email in the earlier message. My apologies. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. ________________________________ From discoduck221 at gmail.com Thu Jul 11 02:14:36 2019 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 22:14:36 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] You Can Check Out The Convention Stream Options, But you can Join Our Virtual Convention Delegation Too! Message-ID: Hi All! As you know, 195 The Globe is providing access via your smart speakers to the convention general sessions in Vegas, and we appreciate all the positive feedback you've given us, too, but that's not all! can't be there in person? Want to interact with those like you who can't be there either? No worries, join our virtual delegation! The globe is using the zoom technology to allow those who want to feel like they are at convention to join others who can't make the sessions, too. This way, you can all listen together to the convention sessions, since they are streamed into zoom as well as the mobile app and such, and people can feel like they are apart of the fun! To join us on zoom, during the time of the sessions, you can either 1. Visit http://www.195theglobe.com/zoom to learn how to get zoom on your computer, mac, as well as how to join. 2. Already familiar with zoom? Use this link to be part of the fun: https://zoom.us/j/4562366247 3. Grab the mobile app for zoom for your phone, install it, run it, go to settings and make sure connect to internet audio is on automatically, then join us with the ID 4562366247 4. Lastly, give us a call. The phone number is 408-638-0968 We start 30 minutes before the morning general session, play music in the globe cafe on zoom and the station only during the lunch break, then we air the last session! So Thursday, tomorrow, we'll start at 11:30 AM eastern (10:30 central, 9:30 mountain, 8:30 pacific.) Same with Friday. And as a bonus for Friday, we want to throw a hell of a virtual banquet party, too, so give zoom a try and let's have some fun together! Maybe we can't be there, but we virtually can represent our states proudly, and have our own place in Cyberspace to enjoy nfb19! Our streams all work now, but if you want the extra level of interactivity, consider joining our virtual convention delegation! All the best, David Dunphy From johnawright98 at gmail.com Fri Jul 12 11:03:09 2019 From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (Johna Wright) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:03:09 +0200 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Announcements Message-ID: <56BD0448-9A89-4530-AADC-A3BFA29F7C4D@gmail.com> Hi, students! I have a few announcements for you all. First, here are the final results of NABS Superlatives voting: Most Likely to Fall Asleep at General Session — Nick Petrillo Most Likely to Be First on a NABS Conference Call — Justin Salisbury Best Laugh — Mausam Mehta One True Pairing (best couple) — Kathryn Webster and Syed Rizvi Most Likely to Lose a Winning Raffle Ticket — Janae Burgmeier Best Public Speaker — Kathryn Webster Most Likely to Climb Mount Everest — Johna Wright Most Likely to Star in a Reality TV Show — Amy Bosko Best Marshall — Erin Daring Most NABS Spirit — Johna Wright Least Likely to Mute Themselves on a Conference Call — Aaron Espinoza Most Likely to Be the Next President Riccobono — Kathryn Webster Congrats to everyone who received a superlative. Let us know if you would like to see something similar to this next year! Also, Congratulations to our newly elected NABS Board Members! Our current officers for the 2019-2020 year are: Kathryn Webster - President Syed Rizvi - 1st Vice President Kenia Flores - 2nd Vice President Mausam Mehta - Secretary Dustin Cather - Treasurer Board Member 1 - Trisha Kulkarni Board Member 2 - Johna Wright Board Member 3 - Elizabeth Rouse Board Member 4 - Justin Salisbury We would like to thank you all for another great business meeting, and we would also like to thank our outgoing board members Janae Burgmeier and Tarik Williams. Cheers, Johna Wright Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE Mercer From nabs.president at gmail.com Wed Jul 17 11:02:57 2019 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, National Student President) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:02:57 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Time Sensitive - Chemistry Opportunity Message-ID: <0fc901d53c8f$315ff5e0$941fe1a0$@gmail.com> Please see the below for a chemistry opportunity in Maryland, but could be remote. Potential Chemistry Opportunity If you are a student who has taken one or more undergraduate chemistry courses, and are currently or are considering a major in chemistry or related field, I would like you to contact me regarding a possible internship project involving the acquisition of spectral data using an interface for blind/ low-vision users. Please contact me via e-mail with your name, name of institution at which you are studying, your intended major and the chemistry course/ courses you have taken. My contact info is: Dr. Alfred D'Agostino Professor Emeritus of Chemistry adagostino at ndm.edu Thank you! Kathryn Kathryn C. Webster President | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind Nabs.president at gmail.com www.nabslink.org From mikgephart at icloud.com Thu Jul 18 20:16:49 2019 From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:16:49 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation Message-ID: Hi all, I hope you are doing well. I will be starting college in the fall, and most likely majoring in child development. As part of my child development class, we have an off-campus lab assignment to work with children. How have you guys handle transportation to off-campus classes? I was thinking I could either take a lyft, or since I just got back from Colorado, could figure out the bus system, but I want to make sure I am on time to my class. How have you all gotten around this hurdle? Thanks for any ideas. Mikayla Sent from my iPhone From misokwak12 at gmail.com Thu Jul 18 20:23:34 2019 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:23:34 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think answer to this question would largely depend on where you are going to college. If your school is located in a rural area, you would not have as much public transit options as being in an urban area. That said, you can check Google Maps and your university resources before resorting to Lyft or Uber. Also, if the area where your school is located has somewhat reliable paratransit options, you may want to consider that as well. Of course, there is an option to carpool with your classmates and split the gas cost as well. Explore your options and decide what will suit you the best. Miso Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I hope you are doing well. I will be starting college in the fall, and most likely majoring in child development. As part of my child development class, we have an off-campus lab assignment to work with children. How have you guys handle transportation to off-campus classes? I was thinking I could either take a lyft, or since I just got back from Colorado, could figure out the bus system, but I want to make sure I am on time to my class. How have you all gotten around this hurdle? Thanks for any ideas. > > Mikayla > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com From keribcu at gmail.com Thu Jul 18 20:24:38 2019 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:24:38 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First, see if the bus is an option. Check on the route and time it takes. You can also look at if it is close enough to walk, or para transit. Lyft is always an option but may be quite expensive. You can also see if you can car pull with a fellow classmate, or if the campus offers a shuttle. On 7/18/2019 4:16 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > > I hope you are doing well. I will be starting college in the fall, and most likely majoring in child development. As part of my child development class, we have an off-campus lab assignment to work with children. How have you guys handle transportation to off-campus classes? I was thinking I could either take a lyft, or since I just got back from Colorado, could figure out the bus system, but I want to make sure I am on time to my class. How have you all gotten around this hurdle? Thanks for any ideas. > > Mikayla > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From tyler at tysdomain.com Thu Jul 18 20:28:51 2019 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:28:51 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01ef6672-b331-669e-2ef5-6d84d87603ab@tysdomain.com> There's always the chance of missing the bus, but once you have a route down, this shouldn't be a huge issue as you'll know when it comes and goes. this is also something everyone who takes the bus needs to work out, so chances are you would just want to leave extra early for your first couple of times to that class to make sure you get there on time. HTH, On 7/18/2019 4:23 PM, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > I think answer to this question would largely depend on where you are going to college. If your school is located in a rural area, you would not have as much public transit options as being in an urban area. > That said, you can check Google Maps and your university resources before resorting to Lyft or Uber. Also, if the area where your school is located has somewhat reliable paratransit options, you may want to consider that as well. > Of course, there is an option to carpool with your classmates and split the gas cost as well. > Explore your options and decide what will suit you the best. > > Miso > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I hope you are doing well. I will be starting college in the fall, and most likely majoring in child development. As part of my child development class, we have an off-campus lab assignment to work with children. How have you guys handle transportation to off-campus classes? I was thinking I could either take a lyft, or since I just got back from Colorado, could figure out the bus system, but I want to make sure I am on time to my class. How have you all gotten around this hurdle? Thanks for any ideas. >> >> Mikayla >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From nmpbrat at aol.com Thu Jul 18 20:35:03 2019 From: nmpbrat at aol.com (nmpbrat at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1843127418.4016224.1563482103474@mail.yahoo.com> Mikayla,I was an education major...this coming year will be my 18th year of teaching.  When I was in college and had to do classes or field experiences off-campus, I always started with seeing if I could catch a ride with fellow classmates.  I honestly don't remember an occasion where I wasn't able to work something like this out, as there were always other students in the class who had the same location to go to.  There are of course other options....but honestly, this was the easiest and cheapest.  I did always offer money for gas to whomever was driving.  Nicole -----Original Message----- From: Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L To: nabs-l Cc: Mikayla Gephart Sent: Thu, Jul 18, 2019 4:18 pm Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation Hi all,     I hope you are doing well. I will be starting college in the fall, and most likely majoring in child development. As part of my child development class, we have an off-campus lab assignment to work with children. How have you guys handle transportation to off-campus classes? I was thinking I could either take a lyft, or since I just got back from Colorado, could figure out the bus system, but I want to make sure I am on time to my class. How have you all gotten around this hurdle? Thanks for any ideas. Mikayla Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com From alpineimagination at gmail.com Thu Jul 18 20:54:54 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:54:54 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mikayla, Do you know if you will be teaching in groups? At my school there are some English classes in which students will teach a much younger group and, even amongst the sighted students, they travel in groups. The same applies to either required or voluntary service events at my school. Maybe that's an option for you? If not, and you do use the bus system or Uber/Lyft, it's up to you to decide when to leave to get there on time. It's better to leave earlier if you can, because transportation is not always very predictable. Vejas > On 18 Jul 2019, at 13:16, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi all, > > I hope you are doing well. I will be starting college in the fall, and most likely majoring in child development. As part of my child development class, we have an off-campus lab assignment to work with children. How have you guys handle transportation to off-campus classes? I was thinking I could either take a lyft, or since I just got back from Colorado, could figure out the bus system, but I want to make sure I am on time to my class. How have you all gotten around this hurdle? Thanks for any ideas. > > Mikayla > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From espinozaaaron94 at gmail.com Fri Jul 19 03:29:14 2019 From: espinozaaaron94 at gmail.com (Aaron Espinoza) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:29:14 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Help Finding Someone From NABS Networking Event Message-ID: <9f4255ad-cb54-bc51-198c-8380d623911e@gmail.com> I am trying to find someone that I met briefly at the National convention NABS networking event. He was Indian and a journalist or studying to be a journalist. He mentioned knowing people at the Washington post or that he got to meet people that worked there. That is all I remember. If your seeing this please contact me or if you know who I am talking about put me in touch with him. From zdreicer at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 20:19:57 2019 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 14:19:57 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Transportation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <429C3DB6-7552-4EE5-BF08-9133B58AA29D@gmail.com> Mikayla, Personally I have used busses and light rails as much as I can. Be sure and conduct your route research with all transportation agencies involved, and plan enough time that you can safely accomplish getting to your job site. Uber and lyft are great alternative and would definitely be handy to supplement your use of public transportation, if your jobsite is in and inaccessible area. Prior to using ride share services for costs incurred as part of your college requirements, I urge you to speak with your vocational rehabilitation counselor about setting a possible reimbursement for travel expenses incurred by using Uber and lyft; even though you may be using pool or lyft-shared, expenses will very quickly add up. “Live the life you want” -National Federation of the Blind Sent from my iPhone XS Using VoiceOver > On Jul 18, 2019, at 14:23, Miso Kwak via NABS-L wrote: > > I think answer to this question would largely depend on where you are going to college. If your school is located in a rural area, you would not have as much public transit options as being in an urban area. > That said, you can check Google Maps and your university resources before resorting to Lyft or Uber. Also, if the area where your school is located has somewhat reliable paratransit options, you may want to consider that as well. > Of course, there is an option to carpool with your classmates and split the gas cost as well. > Explore your options and decide what will suit you the best. > > Miso > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Mikayla Gephart via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I hope you are doing well. I will be starting college in the fall, and most likely majoring in child development. As part of my child development class, we have an off-campus lab assignment to work with children. How have you guys handle transportation to off-campus classes? I was thinking I could either take a lyft, or since I just got back from Colorado, could figure out the bus system, but I want to make sure I am on time to my class. How have you all gotten around this hurdle? Thanks for any ideas. >> >> Mikayla >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sun Jul 21 02:08:29 2019 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:08:29 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_=5BNFBC-Info=5D_Fwd=3A_Come_Join_The_S?= =?utf-8?q?tudents_Division_at_Shakey=E2=80=99s!?= References: <5B90355C-61CC-4E5D-A40B-D60069E55645@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3B6AB36D-96C6-44E4-A3EF-232C2FA32920@gmail.com> Html flyer coming soon! Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Rochelle Houston via NFBC-Info > Date: July 20, 2019 at 18:34:27 PDT > To: NFBC Listserv > Cc: Rochelle Houston > Subject: [NFBC-Info] Fwd: Come Join The Students Division at Shakey’s! > Reply-To: NFB of California List > >> From: Candace Luther >> Date: July 20, 2019 at 6:23:22 PM PDT >> To: Rochelle Houston , Sheila Biglang-awa >> Subject: Come Join Us at Shakey's! >> >> COME JOIN The student division of the national Federation of the blind of California AT SHAKEY'S! >> >> TO BENEFIT: National Federation of the Blind of California Inc. >> (ORGANIZATION) >> >> DATE: July 28, 2019 >> TIME: 3:00 PM to 6:00 PM >> >> We're having a pizza party to help raise money for our group, so bring your family and friends and meet us at Shakey's. While we're there, Shakey's will donate 25% of the menu price of any food purchase we make to support our group. If you have a hectic schedule, you can still help because take-out orders count too. >> Call ahead, and you can pick up dinner on the fly! Don't forget the date and bring your appetite, we'll bring the fun! >> >> SHAKEY'S LOCATION >> Shakey's #7 Burbank >> 1300 N. San Fernando Blvd >> Burbank, CA 91504 >> >> PHONE: 818-848-5527 > _______________________________________________ > NFBC-Info mailing list > NFBC-Info at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbc-info_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBC-Info: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbc-info_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Sun Jul 21 21:34:28 2019 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:34:28 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Update from the Legislative Advocacy Committee Message-ID: Aloha everyone, I hope that you are enjoying your summer and that you had a blast at the National Federation of the Blind Convention in Las Vegas! Since we do not have a committee call in July, I want to be sure to give everyone an update and ask for your support in contacting your Members of Congress to build support for our legislative efforts. We have two bills that we really need to pass to help us achieve greater equality, opportunity, and security for the blind. We need to get every cosponsor we can get, starting with our individual Congressman or Congresswoman, and both Senators from our state. Here, I am listing each bill, with a description, and a link to the full list of cosponsors. If they are on the list of cosponsors, please thank them. If they are not, please ask them to cosponsor. The HR bill numbers apply to Members of the House of Representatives, and the S bill numbers apply to Members of the Senate. Transformation to Competitive Employment Act House - H.R. 873 - Sponsored by Bobby Scott (D-VA-3) Senate - S. 260 - Sponsored by Bob Casey (D-PA) These bills would phase out Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act over a six-year period, at which point the provision would officially be sunset. S. 260 Cosponsors: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/260/cosponsors?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22s260%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1&overview=closed#tabs H. R. 873 Cosponsors: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/873/cosponsors?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr873%22%5D%7D&s=1&r=1&overview=closed#tabs Access Technology Affordability Act House - H.R. 2086 - Sponsored by Mike Thompson (D-CA-5) Senate - S. 815 - Sponsored by John Boozman (R-AR) This legislation removes an employment barrier commonly experienced by blind Americans who cannot afford the high cost of access technology by creating a refundable tax credit in the amount of $2,000 to offset the cost of these technologies. S. 815 Cosponsors: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/815/cosponsors?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22s815%22%5D%7D&s=4&r=1&overview=closed#tabs H. R. 2086 Cosponsors: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2086/cosponsors?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr2086%22%5D%7D&s=6&r=1&overview=closed#tabs When you call or email, you might say something like the following: "Hello, my name is [your name] and I am a constituent of [your senator/representative]. I live in [city, state]. I am calling to urge [your senator/representative] to cosponsor [S. 260 for Senate calls/H.R. 873 for House calls], the Transformation to Competitive Employment Act. This bill would phase out subminimum wages for people with disabilities over a six-year period, at which point Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the provision that allows this practice, would be sunset. I urge [your senator/representative] to cosponsor the bill. I am also calling to urge [your senator/representative] to cosponsor [S. 815 for Senate calls/H.R. 2086 for House calls], the Access Technology Affordability Act. This legislation removes an employment barrier commonly experienced by blind Americans who cannot afford the high cost of access technology by creating a refundable tax credit in the amount of $2,000 to offset the cost of these technologies. I urge [your senator/representative] to cosponsor the bill. Thank you." You can contact your member of Congress by calling the Capitol Switchboard and asking for the office in question. The number is 202-224-3121. If you email your representative or senators, please copy Gabe Cazares at gcazares at nfb.org. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I look forward to catching up with everyone in August if not sooner! Mahalo, Justin Justin M. Hideaki Salisbury he/him/his Board Member | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind (808) 797-8606 president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org From ninam0814 at gmail.com Sun Jul 21 23:25:33 2019 From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 19:25:33 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] attention students! Register for the Southeast Regional Student Seminar! Message-ID: Hello students! We hope that your Summer has proved very fun and productive thus far! Southeast Regional Student Seminar is just around the corner, and there is not much time left to register! This year, Southeast Regional Student Seminar is being hosted in Arlington, Virginia, right outside of Washington DC. It’s the perfect way to end your Summer and get excited for the upcoming school year. We have so many beneficial and exciting activities planned; we do not want you to miss out. Have you always wanted to network with fellow students, meet President Riccobono, and gain skills that will benefit you within school and the job market? Southeast Regional Student Seminar is the perfect experience for you! Come network and gain valuable skills with us! When: August 16-18 2019 Where: Westin Tysons Corner, Arlington, Virginia Transportation: Students are responsible for transportation to and from the hotel and registration fee of roughly $75, in addition to outside funding sources. Registration: We are asking students to register as soon as possible. To register, click here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNNgaOlJrOfR7ubUXte95TF8TLX7GnA7vDEanIkd_3WwdVEw/viewform?pli=1 Contact: Contact Kenia Flores kenia.florez at furman.edu or Kathryn Webster nabs.president at gmail.com with any questions Attached you will find the Southeast Regional Student Seminar flyer. Please feel free to share and spread the word! We are so excited to see you all in Virginia this August. Don’t hesitate to reach out with any questions, and do not forget to register!! best, Nina Marranca | Southeast Regional Student Seminar Planning Committee -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2019 southeast regional student seminar flyer_Final.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 114244 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sun Jul 21 23:29:54 2019 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:29:54 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Come support the California student division! Message-ID: Hi all, I hope everyone had an inspiring convention; when I manage to make it, I always feel invigorated when I walk away from them. State convention is around the corner, so get ready for the next big event--we at CABS sure are. Please find attached the flyer for our next fundraiser, at Shakey's Pizza in Burbank! It's exactly one week from today so if you can make it, come on out and show your support! We've had a lot of people working hard to make this happen, so endless thanks to all of them. And of course, endless thanks in advance to Shakey's for donating some of their proceeds to us. If you can't make it, be sure to share this flyer and our mission with family and friends in the area. Got questions or just want to chat? Drop me an email, and we'll start from there. Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpineimagination at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 16:09:51 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 09:09:51 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Kindle app accessibility on iPhone Message-ID: Hi everyone, Hope you've been having a great last month of summer. I'm asking for a friend here, who wants to know how accessible the Kindle app is with VoiceOver. In my experience it is much more difficult to navigate than Apple Books, but would love to hear from others. Thanks, Vejas From zdreicer at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 17:13:35 2019 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:13:35 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: [Colorado-Talk] 2020 NFB Convention References: <000001d540a0$51d47200$f57d5600$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5DFBE7DD-5C7B-4ED5-8DB8-2021B8D73589@gmail.com> Looking forward to seeing you in Houston! Please pass along. “Live the life you want” -National Federation of the Blind Sent from my iPhone XS Using VoiceOver Begin forwarded message: > From: Curtis Chong via Colorado-Talk > Date: July 22, 2019 at 09:15:37 MDT > To: "'Darrell Hale'" , "'Peggy Chong'" , "'Curtis Chong'" , "'Stefanie Paris'" , "'Edith Holden'" , "'Dale Holden'" , "'Carissa'" , "'Mindy Robin'" , , "'Dannielle Paullin'" , "'Antonnette Sullivan'" , "'Reem Hamodi'" , "'Showe Yang'" , "'Nate Trela'" , "'Janis Davis'" , "'Stokes Anderson'" , "'Sheila Smith'" , "'Kathleen Nelson'" , "'Willie Jones'" , "'Sharon Buchan'" , "'Dennis Carby'" , "'Priscilla Jones'" , "'Judy Hollihead'" , "'Wayne Marshall'" , "'Joe Tripplet'" , "'Scott C. Labarre via Colorado-Talk'" , "'Jessica Beechum'" > Cc: Curtis Chong > Subject: [Colorado-Talk] 2020 NFB Convention > Reply-To: NFB of Colorado Discussion List > > From the Website of the National Federation of the Blind: > > The 2020 National Convention of the National Federation of the Blind will be held June 30 through July 5 in Houston, Texas at the Hilton Americas-Houston hotel located in the heart of downtown. Start planning your trip today and help us celebrate the eightieth anniversary of the NFB. If you missed the big announcement, listen here. See you in Houston! > > > Cordially, > > Curtis Chong > > _______________________________________________ > Colorado-Talk mailing list > Colorado-Talk at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Colorado-Talk: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/colorado-talk_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com > List archives can be found at From eschlenker at cox.net Mon Jul 22 18:28:42 2019 From: eschlenker at cox.net (Emily Schlenker) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:28:42 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Kindle app accessibility on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <294023D1-E602-4D42-A46A-A0D8D9699EEC@cox.net> Definitely not reliably accessible. I have enough frustration with it, that I just finally got rid of it on my phone. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > Hope you've been having a great last month of summer. > I'm asking for a friend here, who wants to know how accessible the Kindle app is with VoiceOver. In my experience it is much more difficult to navigate than Apple Books, but would love to hear from others. > Thanks, > Vejas > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eschlenker%40cox.net From gutz2020 at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 20:32:50 2019 From: gutz2020 at gmail.com (appollo G) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:32:50 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Kindle app accessibility on iPhone In-Reply-To: <294023D1-E602-4D42-A46A-A0D8D9699EEC@cox.net> References: <294023D1-E602-4D42-A46A-A0D8D9699EEC@cox.net> Message-ID: I have to respectfully disagree. I use the Kindle app for almost every book I read nowadays for pleasure. That includes about 7 to 10 books a month. And I’ve never had any issues with the app since about two years ago. I actually subscribe to kindle unlimited. The only thing to know is that what I do is use voiceover to read all and just leave the phone unlocked. If the book has an audiobook available you can lock your screen and use it as normal as the audio plays in the background Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2019, at 13:28, Emily Schlenker via NABS-L wrote: > > Definitely not reliably accessible. I have enough frustration with it, that I just finally got rid of it on my phone. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> Hope you've been having a great last month of summer. >> I'm asking for a friend here, who wants to know how accessible the Kindle app is with VoiceOver. In my experience it is much more difficult to navigate than Apple Books, but would love to hear from others. >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eschlenker%40cox.net > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gutz2020%40gmail.com From gutz2020 at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 21:40:13 2019 From: gutz2020 at gmail.com (appollo G) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:40:13 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Kindle app accessibility on iPhone In-Reply-To: <294023D1-E602-4D42-A46A-A0D8D9699EEC@cox.net> References: <294023D1-E602-4D42-A46A-A0D8D9699EEC@cox.net> Message-ID: I do sometimes scroll and use standard navigation in the voiceover rotor, but, for the most part I just read the book. I will say that accessibility has become much better in the past year with the app and I’m not sure when the last time you tried that was Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2019, at 13:28, Emily Schlenker via NABS-L wrote: > > Definitely not reliably accessible. I have enough frustration with it, that I just finally got rid of it on my phone. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> Hope you've been having a great last month of summer. >> I'm asking for a friend here, who wants to know how accessible the Kindle app is with VoiceOver. In my experience it is much more difficult to navigate than Apple Books, but would love to hear from others. >> Thanks, >> Vejas >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eschlenker%40cox.net > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/gutz2020%40gmail.com From gutz2020 at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 21:42:30 2019 From: gutz2020 at gmail.com (appollo G) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:42:30 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music Message-ID: Hey folks! I was wondering if anyone had any resources for learning braille music. I learned it way back in middle school but haven’t really used it since then. I’d love to pick it back up and start playing instruments again. I checked Hadley, but, their Braille music course has been discontinued. Thanks in advance, Dan Sent from my iPhone From ljmaher03 at outlook.com Mon Jul 22 23:12:17 2019 From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 23:12:17 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The National Library Service has Braille music. Regards Louis Maher Phone: 713-444-7838 E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of appollo G via NABS-L Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:43 PM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: appollo G Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music Hey folks! I was wondering if anyone had any resources for learning braille music. I learned it way back in middle school but haven’t really used it since then. I’d love to pick it back up and start playing instruments again. I checked Hadley, but, their Braille music course has been discontinued. Thanks in advance, Dan Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=R0owmUspA997UhbN1y6fQdOMxiHuVMrTErmOrs30Oo0%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=63LzdIHcGUvS4qJRLz1tlmy03GS7QNRMBk8C90lUj88%3D&reserved=0 From sawhney.kartik at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 02:25:55 2019 From: sawhney.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Sawhney) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:25:55 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Georgia Tech Study In-Reply-To: <6465F572-5818-42EF-9027-3FFF5A1EF34C@gmail.com> References: <6465F572-5818-42EF-9027-3FFF5A1EF34C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, One of my friends at Georgia Tech is conducting a research study on various accessible captcha designs. Below is a message from her. If you are interested or have questions, please reach out to her directly at svkarimi15 at gmail.com. ----------- Hello, we are a group of student researchers at Georgia Tech who are measuring the usability and security of current and potential audio CAPTCHA designs. Since you are visually-impaired, you would be the perfect participant to evaluate the effectiveness of various designs that can improve the quality of your daily experiences with audio CAPTCHAs. There are three different surveys that we will ask you to complete over time and you will be compensated $10 per survey. The surveys themselves will take place over Skype or Zoom and will last about thirty minutes each. The data you provide us will not be published nor used for any other purposes besides evaluation of audio CAPTCHA designs. If you are interested in participating, please complete the form at https://goo.gl/forms/04jfFWTAxP7hpol62. For any further questions, you can email one of our team members at svkarimi15 at gmail.com. Thank you in advance. From gutz2020 at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 03:34:01 2019 From: gutz2020 at gmail.com (appollo G) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 22:34:01 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you :-) I am aware of this, but, I’m really looking for somewhere I can learn it from. I think they only have music if you want to learn pieces. But I haven’t read a piece of Braille music in nearly 10 years Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2019, at 18:12, Louis Maher wrote: > > The National Library Service has Braille music. > > > Regards > Louis Maher > Phone: 713-444-7838 > E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L On Behalf Of appollo G via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:43 PM > To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org > Cc: appollo G > Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music > > Hey folks! > I was wondering if anyone had any resources for learning braille music. I learned it way back in middle school but haven’t really used it since then. I’d love to pick it back up and start playing instruments again. I checked Hadley, but, their Braille music course has been discontinued. > Thanks in advance, > Dan > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=R0owmUspA997UhbN1y6fQdOMxiHuVMrTErmOrs30Oo0%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=63LzdIHcGUvS4qJRLz1tlmy03GS7QNRMBk8C90lUj88%3D&reserved=0 From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 05:47:55 2019 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 01:47:55 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello there. I would suggest trying to get your hands on the braille music curriculum by Richard Taesch. Speaking as someone who both used braille music to get my music degree and as someone who now teaches braille music, I think he's really got the best sequence of teaching concepts and building upon one thing to the next. To be honest with you, I really wasn't super impressed with the Hadley course when I took it to check it out a few years ago. I wound up sticking with the Taesch to guide my own teaching. It has been a while since I’ve had to go looking for it, but if NLS doesn’t have it I believe it can be purchased through Dancing Dots at dancingdots.com. Also, if you are still in high school this coming school year, you would still be young enough to attend the Braille Beats Fine Arts Program next summer. It is a nine day residential music and fine arts intensive held in Michigan, usually the second to last or last week of June. I really credit it with preparing me for my high school band experiences and college when I wasn’t getting braille music support through my local school, and it’s the program I teach braille music for now. If you would like more information on it you can email Braillebeats at gmail.com and keep it on your radar for next summer. Also, please feel free to reach out if you have any other questions that you want to ask off list. My email that I check more regularly, and which doesn’t get cluttered up with listserv messages, is kaiti.shelton at gmail.com . On Monday, July 22, 2019, appollo G via NABS-L wrote: Thank you :-) I am aware of this, but, I’m really looking for somewhere I can learn it from. I think they only have music if you want to learn pieces. But I haven’t read a piece of Braille music in nearly 10 years Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2019, at 18:12, Louis Maher wrote: > > The National Library Service has Braille music. > > > Regards > Louis Maher > Phone: 713-444-7838 > E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L On Behalf Of appollo G via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:43 PM > To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org > Cc: appollo G > Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music > > Hey folks! > I was wondering if anyone had any resources for learning braille music. I learned it way back in middle school but haven’t really used it since then. I’d love to pick it back up and start playing instruments again. I checked Hadley, but, their Braille music course has been discontinued. > Thanks in advance, > Dan > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=R0owmUspA997UhbN1y6fQdOMxiHuVMrTErmOrs30Oo0%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=63LzdIHcGUvS4qJRLz1tlmy03GS7QNRMBk8C90lUj88%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com -- Kaiti Shelton, MT-BC Music Therapist-Board Certified Also at kaiti.shelton at gmail.com (513)285-2072null From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 10:57:32 2019 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:57:32 +0100 Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Dan, I'm Sandra and I'm a Braille Music Teacher as well, although I only teach one-to-one privately through Skype. If you still remember the basics, you could borrow a really easy piece from NLS and read it and listen to the recording at the same time. That may help you become familiar with the signs you may have forgotten. Very best wishes, Sandra. On 7/23/19, Kaiti Shelton via NABS-L wrote: > Hello there. I would suggest trying to > get your hands on the braille music curriculum by Richard Taesch. > Speaking as someone who both used braille music to > get my music degree and as someone who now teaches braille music, I > think he's really got the best sequence of teaching concepts and > building upon one thing to > the next. To be honest with you, I really wasn't super impressed with > the Hadley course when I took it to > check it out a few years ago. I wound up sticking with the Taesch to > guide my own teaching. It has been a while since I’ve had to go looking > for it, but if NLS doesn’t have it I believe it can be purchased through > Dancing Dots at dancingdots.com. > > Also, if you are still in high school this coming school year, you would > still be young enough to attend the Braille Beats Fine Arts Program next > summer. It is a nine day residential music and fine arts intensive held in > Michigan, usually the second to last or last week of June. I really credit > it with preparing me for my high school band experiences and college when I > wasn’t getting braille music support through my local school, and it’s the > program I teach braille music for now. If you would like more information > on it you can email Braillebeats at gmail.com and keep it on your radar for > next summer. > > Also, please feel free to reach out if you have any other questions that > you want to ask off list. My email that I check more regularly, and which > doesn’t get cluttered up with listserv messages, is kaiti.shelton at gmail.com > . > > On Monday, July 22, 2019, appollo G via NABS-L wrote: > Thank you :-) I am aware of this, but, I’m really looking for somewhere I > can learn it from. I think they only have music if you want to learn > pieces. But I haven’t read a piece of Braille music in nearly 10 years > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 22, 2019, at 18:12, Louis Maher wrote: >> >> The National Library Service has Braille music. >> >> >> Regards >> Louis Maher >> Phone: 713-444-7838 >> E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L On Behalf Of appollo G via NABS-L >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:43 PM >> To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> Cc: appollo G >> Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music >> >> Hey folks! >> I was wondering if anyone had any resources for learning braille music. I > learned it way back in middle school but haven’t really used it since then. > I’d love to pick it back up and start playing instruments again. I checked > Hadley, but, their Braille music course has been discontinued. >> Thanks in advance, >> Dan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=R0owmUspA997UhbN1y6fQdOMxiHuVMrTErmOrs30Oo0%3D&reserved=0 >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: >> > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fljmaher03%2540outlook.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C498725bd2f704853053608d70eedaa02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636994286223249449&sdata=63LzdIHcGUvS4qJRLz1tlmy03GS7QNRMBk8C90lUj88%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Kaiti Shelton, MT-BC > Music Therapist-Board Certified > Also at kaiti.shelton at gmail.com > (513)285-2072null > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com > -- Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM. Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Actor www.visablepeople.com Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From LBlake at nfb.org Tue Jul 23 15:47:04 2019 From: LBlake at nfb.org (Blake, Lou Ann) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:47:04 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Georgia Tech Study In-Reply-To: References: <6465F572-5818-42EF-9027-3FFF5A1EF34C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear List Members, The research referred to in the below post has not been approved by the NFB's research advisory council for participation in by NFB members. Any future requests to post research participant solicitation announcements received by members of this list should be forwarded to me at lblake at nfb.org. Thanks and please feel free to contact me off list if you have any questions or concerns. Lou Ann Lou Ann Blake, J.D. Deputy Executive Director, Blindness Initiatives 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2221 | lblake at nfb.org                                   The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Kartik Sawhney via NABS-L Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 10:26 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Kartik Sawhney Subject: [NABS-L] Georgia Tech Study Hi all, One of my friends at Georgia Tech is conducting a research study on various accessible captcha designs. Below is a message from her. If you are interested or have questions, please reach out to her directly at svkarimi15 at gmail.com. ----------- Hello, we are a group of student researchers at Georgia Tech who are measuring the usability and security of current and potential audio CAPTCHA designs. Since you are visually-impaired, you would be the perfect participant to evaluate the effectiveness of various designs that can improve the quality of your daily experiences with audio CAPTCHAs. There are three different surveys that we will ask you to complete over time and you will be compensated $10 per survey. The surveys themselves will take place over Skype or Zoom and will last about thirty minutes each. The data you provide us will not be published nor used for any other purposes besides evaluation of audio CAPTCHA designs. If you are interested in participating, please complete the form at https://goo.gl/forms/04jfFWTAxP7hpol62. For any further questions, you can email one of our team members at svkarimi15 at gmail.com. Thank you in advance. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lblake at nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 15:57:26 2019 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:57:26 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004501d5416f$538a8560$fa9f9020$@gmail.com> Hi Dan: I agree with Kaiti's suggestion of purchasing Richard Taesch's "Introduction to Braille Music" course. That was my first introduction to the code and it continues to be a great resource for me. I would also invite you to join our MusicTalk listserv, where you can interact with your fellow blind musicians who are members of the NFB Blind Musicians Group. To join the list, send an email to musictlk-request at nfbnet.org and put the word Subscribe in the subject line. Perhaps this is a shameless plug because I chair the BMG, but I really think it would be a great source of networking and information gathering for you. One more thought: There is a wonderful blind musician and music teacher from Illinois who teaches Braille music privately to individual students. She has become sought after nationally, so she can do lessons over the phone, Skype, FaceTime, etc. She's a great teacher and a fun person to work with, so I think you will enjoy her immensely. Please get in touch off-list and I can connect the two of you. Hope this helps, Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of appollo G via NABS-L Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 5:43 PM To: NABS-L at nfbnet.org Cc: appollo G Subject: [NABS-L] Braille music Hey folks! I was wondering if anyone had any resources for learning braille music. I learned it way back in middle school but haven’t really used it since then. I’d love to pick it back up and start playing instruments again. I checked Hadley, but, their Braille music course has been discontinued. Thanks in advance, Dan Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From johnawright98 at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 17:39:28 2019 From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (Johna Wright) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:39:28 +0200 Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings Message-ID: <6A4CD8D1-76F2-4FB5-AD02-E73AE4E75003@gmail.com> Hi, all! Please read the below announcement and share far + wide! Open-House Gatherings: Many people do not know the National Federation of the Blind, and they are reluctant to attend a local chapter meeting where they may have their questions answered. We will be hosting teleconferences for individuals that are curious about the National Federation of the Blind. The teleconference will present them with an opportunity to receive information from and ask questions of Federationists. We will be able to dispel the myths and misconceptions about the NFB and highlight the benefits of membership. These calls are specifically intended for individuals who are curious about our organization and would benefit from learning about us in an educational environment. Chapters and affiliates should share this invitation on their social media and disseminate it with anyone who may be interested in joining. The calls will take place on the third Sunday of each even numbered month and the third Wednesday of each odd numbered month. Our first two calls will be Sunday, August 18, at 4:00 p.m. eastern and Wednesday, September 18, at 8:00 p.m. eastern. We would like to keep the list of participants small enough so that it will be impactful. Therefore, in order to participate, individuals will need to RSVP by emailing membership at nfb.org or calling 410-659-9314, extension 2509, and let us know which call date works best for them. Individuals selected to participate will receive the call-in information. Cheers, Johna Wright Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE Mercer From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 18:10:48 2019 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:10:48 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings In-Reply-To: <6A4CD8D1-76F2-4FB5-AD02-E73AE4E75003@gmail.com> References: <6A4CD8D1-76F2-4FB5-AD02-E73AE4E75003@gmail.com> Message-ID: Can I share this information on my website as well? — Armando The Blind Advocate Blog www.theblindadvocate.com Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 > On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, all! Please read the below announcement and share far + wide! > > Open-House Gatherings: > Many people do not know the National Federation of the Blind, and they are reluctant to attend a local chapter meeting where they may have their questions answered. We will be hosting teleconferences for individuals that are curious about the National Federation of the Blind. The teleconference will present them with an opportunity to receive information from and ask questions of Federationists. We will be able to dispel the myths and misconceptions about the NFB and highlight the benefits of membership. These calls are specifically intended for individuals who are curious about our organization and would benefit from learning about us in an educational environment. Chapters and affiliates should share this invitation on their social media and disseminate it with anyone who may be interested in joining. > > The calls will take place on the third Sunday of each even numbered month and the third Wednesday of each odd numbered month. Our first two calls will be Sunday, August 18, at 4:00 p.m. eastern and Wednesday, September 18, at 8:00 p.m. eastern. We would like to keep the list of participants small enough so that it will be impactful. Therefore, in order to participate, individuals will need to RSVP by emailing membership at nfb.org or calling 410-659-9314, extension 2509, and let us know which call date works best for them. Individuals selected to participate will receive the call-in information. > > Cheers, > > Johna Wright > Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division > Board Member, National Association of Blind Students > Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students > Director, ABLE Mercer > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40gmail.com From nabs.president at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 18:13:14 2019 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, National Student President) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:13:14 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings In-Reply-To: References: <6A4CD8D1-76F2-4FB5-AD02-E73AE4E75003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a101d54182$4b9b23b0$e2d16b10$@gmail.com> Absolutely! Thank you, Kathryn Kathryn C. Webster President | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind Nabs.president at gmail.com www.nabslink.org -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Armando Vias via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:11 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Armando Vias Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings Can I share this information on my website as well? — Armando The Blind Advocate Blog www.theblindadvocate.com Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 > On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, all! Please read the below announcement and share far + wide! > > Open-House Gatherings: > Many people do not know the National Federation of the Blind, and they are reluctant to attend a local chapter meeting where they may have their questions answered. We will be hosting teleconferences for individuals that are curious about the National Federation of the Blind. The teleconference will present them with an opportunity to receive information from and ask questions of Federationists. We will be able to dispel the myths and misconceptions about the NFB and highlight the benefits of membership. These calls are specifically intended for individuals who are curious about our organization and would benefit from learning about us in an educational environment. Chapters and affiliates should share this invitation on their social media and disseminate it with anyone who may be interested in joining. > > The calls will take place on the third Sunday of each even numbered month and the third Wednesday of each odd numbered month. Our first two calls will be Sunday, August 18, at 4:00 p.m. eastern and Wednesday, September 18, at 8:00 p.m. eastern. We would like to keep the list of participants small enough so that it will be impactful. Therefore, in order to participate, individuals will need to RSVP by emailing membership at nfb.org or calling 410-659-9314, extension 2509, and let us know which call date works best for them. Individuals selected to participate will receive the call-in information. > > Cheers, > > Johna Wright > Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service > Division Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Social > Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE > Mercer _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40g > mail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 18:47:44 2019 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:47:44 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings In-Reply-To: <00a101d54182$4b9b23b0$e2d16b10$@gmail.com> References: <6A4CD8D1-76F2-4FB5-AD02-E73AE4E75003@gmail.com> <00a101d54182$4b9b23b0$e2d16b10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here is what I posted on my website. Let me know if something needs to be corrected. https://theblindadvocate.com/news/nfb-to-host-open-house-gatherings/ Armando The Blind Advocate Blog www.theblindadvocate.com Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 > On Jul 23, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Kathryn Webster, National Student President wrote: > > Absolutely! > > Thank you, > Kathryn > > Kathryn C. Webster > President | National Association of Blind Students > A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind > Nabs.president at gmail.com > www.nabslink.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Armando Vias via NABS-L > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:11 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Armando Vias > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings > > Can I share this information on my website as well? > > — > Armando > The Blind Advocate Blog > www.theblindadvocate.com > Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 > >> On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi, all! Please read the below announcement and share far + wide! >> >> Open-House Gatherings: >> Many people do not know the National Federation of the Blind, and they are reluctant to attend a local chapter meeting where they may have their questions answered. We will be hosting teleconferences for individuals that are curious about the National Federation of the Blind. The teleconference will present them with an opportunity to receive information from and ask questions of Federationists. We will be able to dispel the myths and misconceptions about the NFB and highlight the benefits of membership. These calls are specifically intended for individuals who are curious about our organization and would benefit from learning about us in an educational environment. Chapters and affiliates should share this invitation on their social media and disseminate it with anyone who may be interested in joining. >> >> The calls will take place on the third Sunday of each even numbered month and the third Wednesday of each odd numbered month. Our first two calls will be Sunday, August 18, at 4:00 p.m. eastern and Wednesday, September 18, at 8:00 p.m. eastern. We would like to keep the list of participants small enough so that it will be impactful. Therefore, in order to participate, individuals will need to RSVP by emailing membership at nfb.org or calling 410-659-9314, extension 2509, and let us know which call date works best for them. Individuals selected to participate will receive the call-in information. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Johna Wright >> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service >> Division Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Social >> Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE >> Mercer _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40g >> mail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com > From discoduck221 at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 20:37:59 2019 From: discoduck221 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:37:59 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] OT: The Performing Arts Division Showcase Of Talent From Convention Airs Tonight Message-ID: Hello All! It wouldn't be an nfb convention without the traditional airing of the PAD showcase of talent from this year. And since for the first time in awhile, it wasn't streamed live in some way during the event, you'll get to hear it for the first time tonight! Tune in to 195 The Globe at 8 PM eastern as we play the 2019 Performing Arts Division showcase of talent. To listen, simply ask your smart speaker to play 195 The Globe on Tunein. Also, you can grab the 195 The Globe app from the google play or IOS app stores. Other listening options can be found at http://www.195theglobe.com/listen Want to listen with others around the country like you're at the event? Join us on the globe zoom. We'll be streaming the audio in the globe zoom channel. Note zoom participant commentary will not be on the live stream, but if you want to listen with others, feel free to join us. 1. You can access zoom at http://www.195theglobe.com/zoom 2. If you already have zoom, use this link at 8 PM eastern to join us: https://zoom.us/j/4562366247 3. Lastly, you can dial in at 408 638 0968 and when prompted, type in the ID 4562366247 which spells out GlobeOnAir Let's see what our performers provided in the way of entertainment as those who didn't get to go finally get to hear the showcase of talent. As a final note, special thanks to PAD for providing us a recording via video, and to Chris Nusbaum for his recording, as both were necessary to complete the recording you'll hear tonight. Looking forward to having you as listeners tonight! All the best, David Dunphy From nabs.president at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 21:24:22 2019 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, National Student President ) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:24:22 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings In-Reply-To: References: <6A4CD8D1-76F2-4FB5-AD02-E73AE4E75003@gmail.com> <00a101d54182$4b9b23b0$e2d16b10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Looks awesome!!!! Thanks so much for sharing it. Kathryn Webster President, National Association of Blind Students (203) 273-8463 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Armando Vias wrote: > > Here is what I posted on my website. Let me know if something needs to be corrected. > > https://theblindadvocate.com/news/nfb-to-host-open-house-gatherings/ > > Armando > The Blind Advocate Blog > www.theblindadvocate.com > Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 > >> On Jul 23, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Kathryn Webster, National Student President wrote: >> >> Absolutely! >> >> Thank you, >> Kathryn >> >> Kathryn C. Webster >> President | National Association of Blind Students >> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind >> Nabs.president at gmail.com >> www.nabslink.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Armando Vias via NABS-L >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:11 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Cc: Armando Vias >> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NFB Open-House Gatherings >> >> Can I share this information on my website as well? >> >> — >> Armando >> The Blind Advocate Blog >> www.theblindadvocate.com >> Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 >> >>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi, all! Please read the below announcement and share far + wide! >>> >>> Open-House Gatherings: >>> Many people do not know the National Federation of the Blind, and they are reluctant to attend a local chapter meeting where they may have their questions answered. We will be hosting teleconferences for individuals that are curious about the National Federation of the Blind. The teleconference will present them with an opportunity to receive information from and ask questions of Federationists. We will be able to dispel the myths and misconceptions about the NFB and highlight the benefits of membership. These calls are specifically intended for individuals who are curious about our organization and would benefit from learning about us in an educational environment. Chapters and affiliates should share this invitation on their social media and disseminate it with anyone who may be interested in joining. >>> >>> The calls will take place on the third Sunday of each even numbered month and the third Wednesday of each odd numbered month. Our first two calls will be Sunday, August 18, at 4:00 p.m. eastern and Wednesday, September 18, at 8:00 p.m. eastern. We would like to keep the list of participants small enough so that it will be impactful. Therefore, in order to participate, individuals will need to RSVP by emailing membership at nfb.org or calling 410-659-9314, extension 2509, and let us know which call date works best for them. Individuals selected to participate will receive the call-in information. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Johna Wright >>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service >>> Division Board Member, National Association of Blind Students Social >>> Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE >>> Mercer _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/armando.l.vias%40g >>> mail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com >> From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Wed Jul 24 22:39:24 2019 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:39:24 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Sign My Petition Requiring All TV Channels In The United States To Provide Video Description Services For The Blind - The Blind Advocate Message-ID: https://theblindadvocate.com/advocacy/petition-to-fcc/ Sign My Petition Requiring All TV Channels In The United States To Provide Video Description Services For The Blind The Blind Advocate July 24, 2019 Edit As a blind person who likes to watch TV, I rely on video-description to know what’s going on in a TV show. Video description is defined as the insertion of narrated audio into key elements. Did you know that most channels on TV, such as channels offered via cable, Satellite, etc do not have an SAP channel, (Secondary Audio Programming), that streams the video description track of a program? Some examples of channels that doesn’t have a SAP stream are: A&E Network, Game Show Network, (GSN), HBO, etc. I have started a petition to the Federal Communications Commission, (FCC), requiring all TV channels, no matter how big or small, to provide video-description services for the blind. If you agree with me, please sign the petition and share it far and wide by clicking the link below! Click here to visit my petition to learn more on why I want the FCC to update the Video-Description rules. Armando The Blind Advocate Blog www.theblindadvocate.com Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 From goosie1011 at gmail.com Wed Jul 24 23:22:28 2019 From: goosie1011 at gmail.com (Garrett Kearns) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:22:28 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Sign My Petition Requiring All TV Channels In The United States To Provide Video Description Services For The Blind - The Blind Advocate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a good idea in theory, but I think your plan would be more effective if you focused on larger networks like HBO. Even in countries where audio description is more prevalent on cable programming (i.e. the UK) there are only a certain number of hours that are provided with description. The FCC is extremely corrupt at the moment, so even if this petition became popular enough to get their attention, I doubt they would listen. On 7/24/19, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > https://theblindadvocate.com/advocacy/petition-to-fcc/ > > Sign My Petition Requiring All TV Channels In The United States To Provide > Video Description Services For The Blind > The Blind Advocate July 24, 2019 Edit > As a blind person who likes to watch TV, I rely on video-description to know > what’s going on in a TV show. Video description is defined as the insertion > of narrated audio into key elements. > > Did you know that most channels on TV, such as channels offered via cable, > Satellite, etc do not have an SAP channel, (Secondary Audio Programming), > that streams the video description track of a program? Some examples of > channels that doesn’t have a SAP stream are: A&E Network, Game Show Network, > (GSN), HBO, etc. > > I have started a petition to the Federal Communications Commission, (FCC), > requiring all TV channels, no matter how big or small, to provide > video-description services for the blind. If you agree with me, please sign > the petition and share it far and wide by clicking the link below! > > Click here to visit my petition to learn more on why I want the FCC to > update the Video-Description rules. > > > > Armando > The Blind Advocate Blog > www.theblindadvocate.com > Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/goosie1011%40gmail.com > From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Thu Jul 25 00:32:44 2019 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:32:44 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Collaborative Calendars Message-ID: Hi all, I'm the Director of Communications for the group responsible for representing the student body now at school. Still not sure how I landed that one... At any rate, a couple of my biggest initiatives are web accessibility, and increased transparency. Toward that end, I'd like to start a public calendar system, so that students can become aware of all the meetings, town halls, events, etc. that we're having. Most of the student senate meetings, for example, are open to the student body but since people are not aware of when they are, no one shows up. This leads to a vicious cycle of questions like "Is the senate actually doing anything?" Of course they are, but how is anyone supposed to know what's going on if they don't know when the meetings are? Hence the calendar. I've been playing around with Google Calendar and my school (unfortunately) likes Outlook, but I wanted to ask for y'all's opinions on accessible tools. While it may be slightly self-serving, I first want to make sure that whatever we end up going with is 1,000% accessible. Ideally, it should be something that we can embed into our website, so that we don't have to maintain a bunch of separate calendars and stuff. Also, it should definitely be something available to both Android and Apple users. Have any of you done something like this in the past and if so, what has worked best? Thanks! Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) Communications Intern | AIRA Secretary | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) From aliherky at gmail.com Fri Jul 26 17:44:20 2019 From: aliherky at gmail.com (Ali) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:44:20 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Collaborative Calendars Message-ID: <5d3b1fd9.1c69fb81.5bb5b.2a64@mx.google.com> What about a list on the website that people can copy and paste into their preferred calendar? Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L" Hi everyone, Hope you all are having a great summer. I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, since this is really my first official job interview. Thank you, and happy weekend! Emmie From armando.l.vias at gmail.com Fri Jul 26 19:24:58 2019 From: armando.l.vias at gmail.com (Armando Vias) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:24:58 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?YouTube_TV_doesn=E2=80=99t_have_video_Descrip?= =?utf-8?q?tion?= Message-ID: <7431D5F5-F94B-4189-AC1E-8A14C8D6D63E@gmail.com> Well, just tried the YouTube TV app, and guess what? No video description! I can’t believe it. I believe in equal access to television. There is a secondary audio programming channel, but it doesn’t carry the video described version. Until they add the video description feature to the YouTube TV app, I have canceled my membership in the middle of the trial. Armando The Blind Advocate Blog www.theblindadvocate.com Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 26 19:28:07 2019 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:28:07 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010201d543e8$41858240$c49086c0$@gmail.com> Don't disclose until you have too. if you are not in a face to face interview, iti might not come up at all. You might have to ask for accommodations when you get the job, though. You can use the JAN site to write a formal JAN letter. Thanks, Justin -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 3:19 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Emmanuelle Lo Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability Hi everyone, Hope you all are having a great summer. I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, since this is really my first official job interview. Thank you, and happy weekend! Emmie _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From keribcu at gmail.com Fri Jul 26 19:31:51 2019 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:31:51 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Emmie, I mention my blindness if it comes up, and if I think there is a good point to bring it up. Job interviews can be a little nerve racking. My tips. Make sure you are in an environment that is quiet and not distracting for you. Answer openly and honestly. If you don't know the answer say I don't know. Be sure to ask any questions you have when they ask you, and sometimes this is when the blindness issue sometimes presents itself. Make sure you know the basics about the company, and why you want to work there! Good luck! On 7/26/2019 3:18 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Hope you all are having a great summer. > > I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, since this is really my first official job interview. > > Thank you, and happy weekend! > Emmie > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu%40gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From ALewis at nfb.org Fri Jul 26 19:40:23 2019 From: ALewis at nfb.org (Lewis, Anil) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:40:23 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> Message-ID: There is no set of instructions. Disclosure is nuanced. There are any number of strategies and suggestions on how to best address disclosure of disability. However, they are all dependent on the individual. As a job placement specialist, I would spend significant time helping individuals develop a strategy that plays to their strengths, taking into consideration the specific job being sought. We are developing tools to address this and other job seeking skills as part of our Career mentoring program. Perhaps we should set up some calls supported by the Employment Committee to discuss this and some other topics. We could use our Zoom platform to host them virtually. Anil Anil Lewis, M.P.A. (410) 659-9314 x 2374 National Federation of the Blind -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keri Svendsen via NABS-L Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 3:32 PM To: Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L Cc: Keri Svendsen Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability Emmie, I mention my blindness if it comes up, and if I think there is a good point to bring it up. Job interviews can be a little nerve racking. My tips. Make sure you are in an environment that is quiet and not distracting for you. Answer openly and honestly. If you don't know the answer say I don't know. Be sure to ask any questions you have when they ask you, and sometimes this is when the blindness issue sometimes presents itself. Make sure you know the basics about the company, and why you want to work there! Good luck! On 7/26/2019 3:18 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Hope you all are having a great summer. > > I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, since this is really my first official job interview. > > Thank you, and happy weekend! > Emmie > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/keribcu at gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alewis at nfb.org Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From hstaley at nfbtx.org Fri Jul 26 20:20:36 2019 From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:20:36 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CAA75D5-9D1F-4910-953C-703B0CF327E0@nfbtx.org> I would not disclose until you need some kind of accommodation. Especially in a phone interview. Harry Staley (330) 718-1876 hstaley at nfbtx.org > On Jul 26, 2019, at 14:18, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Hope you all are having a great summer. > > I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, since this is really my first official job interview. > > Thank you, and happy weekend! > Emmie > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hstaley%40nfbtx.org From paezja at mail.broward.edu Fri Jul 26 20:27:40 2019 From: paezja at mail.broward.edu (Jorge Paez) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:27:40 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <098EA82D-8A46-453E-8565-D05B7F0F64E5@mail.broward.edu> I’m totally blind so, there’s kinda an automatic disclosure the moment I walk in the room. That said, for phone interviews, I never ever disclose my blindness. The only time I ever mentioned it was once when I was applying to work with a missing child non profit because I was afraid that my job might’ve included looking at pictures which it did. Other then that though I don’t disclose on the phone, and like I said for face to face interviews my presence is an automatic disclosure. Jorge > On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless are expecting the information and you recognize the sender. > ________________________________ > > Hi everyone, > > Hope you all are having a great summer. > > I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, since this is really my first official job interview. > > Thank you, and happy weekend! > Emmie > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=nxe7C7HndCV12SE%2BJsZm6QOHLRpdKlZPqr6kAFtQrMg%3D&reserved=0= > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fpaezja%2540mail.broward.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=1I08oO0kKEdMcIcoyd3EITKvfFP8kh3S8dQszsZbF70%3D&reserved=0= From paezja at mail.broward.edu Fri Jul 26 20:29:57 2019 From: paezja at mail.broward.edu (Jorge Paez) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:29:57 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?YouTube_TV_doesn=E2=80=99t_have_video_Descrip?= =?utf-8?q?tion?= In-Reply-To: <7431D5F5-F94B-4189-AC1E-8A14C8D6D63E@gmail.com> References: <7431D5F5-F94B-4189-AC1E-8A14C8D6D63E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0290F439-510A-4807-841E-7D3FC5A983BE@mail.broward.edu> TV providers aren’t required to cary video descriptions and channels aren’t obligated to do it either. I believe all that is voluntary at this point. The only ones that are required to do so by law are the movie theaters, and a lot of the studios like Amazon do that but that’s of their own will. > On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless are expecting the information and you recognize the sender. > ________________________________ > > Well, just tried the YouTube TV app, and guess what? No video description! I can’t believe it. I believe in equal access to television. There is a secondary audio programming channel, but it doesn’t carry the video described version. Until they add the video description feature to the YouTube TV app, I have canceled my membership in the middle of the trial. > > Armando > The Blind Advocate Blog > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblindadvocate.com&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=d1ugxYngI1hN7kefGGvL8oyhaon6RAATxr2g9zD4Brs%3D&reserved=0= > Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=y41hzVZ%2Fp7GjSW4EnYB%2F1RC95fQt2oU4DfRQW%2Bap5TE%3D&reserved=0= > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fpaezja%2540mail.broward.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=fkwzjChg43WNMnQIaDXRoNWWZYcYYxygY9T1YqT2rc0%3D&reserved=0= From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Fri Jul 26 21:17:07 2019 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:17:07 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS T-shirts Available Now! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good afternoon, students! If you missed our brand new NABS T-shirts at National Convention, we have some good news. Our remaining T-shirts can now be purchased online. Supply is incredibly limited, so fill out the form below as soon as possible. Small, medium, and large are the only sizes left. Instructions as well as a description of the shirts are enclosed. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScfRtjUZAxzZ3KN1TF856pDf2PK8lrtbyh_wHEo-txo6dA3LQ/viewform If you have any questions, please contact me as soon as possible! When you place an order, please send me a text message so that I can verify that your payment has gone through. Please allow two weeks for shipping. Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Rouse Board Member | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com 563-210-1854 From emitchell927 at icloud.com Sat Jul 27 15:59:25 2019 From: emitchell927 at icloud.com (Emma Mitchell) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 11:59:25 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Personal assistance for college Message-ID: <630E2B00-8DD9-4FBB-9813-651F3B011688@icloud.com> Hello Satoya, I am helping Emma Mitchell hire personal assistants for next fall while she attends school at George Washington University. She is now in Pennsylvania where she lives when school is not in session. Would you be interested in assisting a 23 year old woman who is blind and uses a wheelchair so that she can attend classes? She needs help with laundry, personal presentation (dressing and bathing), dorm room cleanliness, grocery shopping, and getting to and from classes from Monday to Thursday? She lives on 23rd and G St NW. the position can be anywhere from 20-30 hours a week. She found you on the PPL ready-to-go sheet and we’re looking for ways to get someone in place without extra travel or paperwork before the end of summer. Sincerely, David Mitchell Sent from my iPhone please share widely From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Sat Jul 27 16:22:43 2019 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:22:43 +0100 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: <098EA82D-8A46-453E-8565-D05B7F0F64E5@mail.broward.edu> References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> <098EA82D-8A46-453E-8565-D05B7F0F64E5@mail.broward.edu> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I am following this thread and tried to keep silent. However, I feel I must say something at this point. It is a shame that people feel they have to withhold such a vital piece of information about how they work and conduct themselves on a day-to-day basis. By leaving disclosure until the very last second, we run the risk of the person receiving the news in a negative way. Personally, if there is no space to disclose on a CV or application, I send an accompanying cover letter which gives me a chance to describe my disability, what it means to me and what sets me apart from other candidates for the job. In my opinion, saying nothing or just turning up to an interview with a cane or dog, surprising your interviewer is not only discourteous, it's an opportunity lost to describe the positive aspects of your disability. This frame of mind depends on a positive view of being blind/visually impaired. If you view it negatively, it is natural to wish to hide it. My disability is part of what has shaped me as a person and the thought of hiding it, even if it were possible, feels unpleasant. Still, we're all different and disability can mean different things to different people. Very best wishes, Sandra. On 7/26/19, Jorge Paez via NABS-L wrote: > I’m totally blind so, there’s kinda an automatic disclosure the moment I > walk in the room. > That said, for phone interviews, I never ever disclose my blindness. > The only time I ever mentioned it was once when I was applying to work with > a missing child non profit because I was afraid that my job might’ve > included looking at pictures which it did. > Other then that though I don’t disclose on the phone, and like I said for > face to face interviews my presence is an automatic disclosure. > > Jorge > > > >> On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT >> click links or open attachments unless are expecting the information and >> you recognize the sender. >> ________________________________ >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Hope you all are having a great summer. >> >> I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out >> today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just >> consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience >> includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I >> haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person >> interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the >> interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle >> disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, >> since this is really my first official job interview. >> >> Thank you, and happy weekend! >> Emmie >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=nxe7C7HndCV12SE%2BJsZm6QOHLRpdKlZPqr6kAFtQrMg%3D&reserved=0= >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fpaezja%2540mail.broward.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=1I08oO0kKEdMcIcoyd3EITKvfFP8kh3S8dQszsZbF70%3D&reserved=0= > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com > -- Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM. Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Actor www.visablepeople.com Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From darrell.hilliker at gmail.com Sat Jul 27 16:33:00 2019 From: darrell.hilliker at gmail.com (Darrell Hilliker) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 09:33:00 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> <098EA82D-8A46-453E-8565-D05B7F0F64E5@mail.broward.edu> Message-ID: <040A04C9-2E42-4BBF-8C1B-3C1FC8647490@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I am not ashamed of my disability, but, I know this… I’ve tried this both ways. Every time I have disclosed my blindness before the interview, I have not even gotten to the interview. Most of the time, when I have not disclosed my blindness before the interview, I have actually gotten to an interview, and, sometimes, even gotten hired. I think it’s just the facts of life that it is risky to disclose too early. Take care, Darrell Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > I am following this thread and tried to keep silent. However, I feel I > must say something at this point. It is a shame that people feel they > have to withhold such a vital piece of information about how they work > and conduct themselves on a day-to-day basis. By leaving disclosure > until the very last second, we run the risk of the person receiving > the news in a negative way. Personally, if there is no space to > disclose on a CV or application, I send an accompanying cover letter > which gives me a chance to describe my disability, what it means to me > and what sets me apart from other candidates for the job. In my > opinion, saying nothing or just turning up to an interview with a cane > or dog, surprising your interviewer is not only discourteous, it's an > opportunity lost to describe the positive aspects of your disability. > This frame of mind depends on a positive view of being blind/visually > impaired. If you view it negatively, it is natural to wish to hide it. > My disability is part of what has shaped me as a person and the > thought of hiding it, even if it were possible, feels unpleasant. > Still, we're all different and disability can mean different things to > different people. > > Very best wishes, > Sandra. > >> On 7/26/19, Jorge Paez via NABS-L wrote: >> I’m totally blind so, there’s kinda an automatic disclosure the moment I >> walk in the room. >> That said, for phone interviews, I never ever disclose my blindness. >> The only time I ever mentioned it was once when I was applying to work with >> a missing child non profit because I was afraid that my job might’ve >> included looking at pictures which it did. >> Other then that though I don’t disclose on the phone, and like I said for >> face to face interviews my presence is an automatic disclosure. >> >> Jorge >> >> >> >>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT >>> click links or open attachments unless are expecting the information and >>> you recognize the sender. >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Hope you all are having a great summer. >>> >>> I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found out >>> today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just >>> consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience >>> includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I >>> haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person >>> interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the >>> interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle >>> disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, >>> since this is really my first official job interview. >>> >>> Thank you, and happy weekend! >>> Emmie >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=nxe7C7HndCV12SE%2BJsZm6QOHLRpdKlZPqr6kAFtQrMg%3D&reserved=0= >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fpaezja%2540mail.broward.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=1I08oO0kKEdMcIcoyd3EITKvfFP8kh3S8dQszsZbF70%3D&reserved=0= >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM. > > Soprano Singer > www.sandragayer.com > > Broadcast Presenter > www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html > > Actor > www.visablepeople.com > > Voiceover Artist > www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/darrell.hilliker%40gmail.com From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sat Jul 27 21:26:11 2019 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:26:11 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Tomorrow: Pizza at Shakey's! Message-ID: Hi all, I promise this is the last annoying email about this event, especially considering this isn't the California list. If you're in the area though, feel free to come support the California student division at this awesome fundraiser! Endless, endless thanks to all who have made this possible! And even if you're not going, feel free to like and share our page. Thanks! https://m.facebook.com/events/2263625733755090?acontext=%7B%22ref%22%3A%2298%22%2C%22action_history%22%3A%22null%22%7D&aref=98&__tn__=H Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) Education SME and Student Liaison | AIRA Secretary | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) From sandragayer7 at gmail.com Sun Jul 28 11:16:27 2019 From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 12:16:27 +0100 Subject: [NABS-L] Job Interview: Seeking Advice on Disclosing my Disability In-Reply-To: <040A04C9-2E42-4BBF-8C1B-3C1FC8647490@gmail.com> References: <8D958D79-42FE-44BA-8047-1259B0BB294E@gmail.com> <098EA82D-8A46-453E-8565-D05B7F0F64E5@mail.broward.edu> <040A04C9-2E42-4BBF-8C1B-3C1FC8647490@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I'm not saying it's easy or straightforward. Most of the time I get an interview which may or may not lead to the job, ocasionally, I don't. I remember one instance when the employer wrote to me, saying they didn't think a blind person could do the job. In situations like that, you would never be able to work with people who think like that so, from my point-of-view, it works out fine. The flip side to this is that Most of my work when I left school was, so to speak, normal administrative/office work. Most of what I do now is performing. When I'm not doing that, I present on the radio and teach Braille Music. Also, my website and a number of other websites available to the public do mention my disability. Anyone could look me up if they want to so I'd rather they hear it from me, on my terms, first. If anyone else wants to keep it hidden until they believe it to be the right moment,keep in mind that employers look people up on the social media sites so you'd best hide it when talking to friends on the Internet as well. Very best wishes, Sandra. On 7/27/19, Darrell Hilliker wrote: > Hello everyone, > I am not ashamed of my disability, but, I know this… > I’ve tried this both ways. > Every time I have disclosed my blindness before the interview, I have not > even gotten to the interview. > Most of the time, when I have not disclosed my blindness before the > interview, I have actually gotten to an interview, and, sometimes, even > gotten hired. > I think it’s just the facts of life that it is risky to disclose too early. > Take care, > Darrell > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 27, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> I am following this thread and tried to keep silent. However, I feel I >> must say something at this point. It is a shame that people feel they >> have to withhold such a vital piece of information about how they work >> and conduct themselves on a day-to-day basis. By leaving disclosure >> until the very last second, we run the risk of the person receiving >> the news in a negative way. Personally, if there is no space to >> disclose on a CV or application, I send an accompanying cover letter >> which gives me a chance to describe my disability, what it means to me >> and what sets me apart from other candidates for the job. In my >> opinion, saying nothing or just turning up to an interview with a cane >> or dog, surprising your interviewer is not only discourteous, it's an >> opportunity lost to describe the positive aspects of your disability. >> This frame of mind depends on a positive view of being blind/visually >> impaired. If you view it negatively, it is natural to wish to hide it. >> My disability is part of what has shaped me as a person and the >> thought of hiding it, even if it were possible, feels unpleasant. >> Still, we're all different and disability can mean different things to >> different people. >> >> Very best wishes, >> Sandra. >> >>> On 7/26/19, Jorge Paez via NABS-L wrote: >>> I’m totally blind so, there’s kinda an automatic disclosure the moment I >>> walk in the room. >>> That said, for phone interviews, I never ever disclose my blindness. >>> The only time I ever mentioned it was once when I was applying to work >>> with >>> a missing child non profit because I was afraid that my job might’ve >>> included looking at pictures which it did. >>> Other then that though I don’t disclose on the phone, and like I said >>> for >>> face to face interviews my presence is an automatic disclosure. >>> >>> Jorge >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Emmanuelle Lo via NABS-L >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT >>>> click links or open attachments unless are expecting the information >>>> and >>>> you recognize the sender. >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> Hope you all are having a great summer. >>>> >>>> I applied for a part time job at my college's library and just found >>>> out >>>> today that they want to do a phone interview. The application just >>>> consisted of a resume, so other than the fact that my work experience >>>> includes working at a camp for blind and visually impaired youth, I >>>> haven't yet disclosed my disability. Since it's not an in-person >>>> interview, my blindness won't be obvious unless it comes up during the >>>> interview. Do you have any suggestions for how/when I should handle >>>> disclosure? Any general job interview tips would also be appreciated, >>>> since this is really my first official job interview. >>>> >>>> Thank you, and happy weekend! >>>> Emmie >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=nxe7C7HndCV12SE%2BJsZm6QOHLRpdKlZPqr6kAFtQrMg%3D&reserved=0= >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fpaezja%2540mail.broward.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7C6cf75e9efa4a4b053a0108d711fe4037%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997656007274496&sdata=1I08oO0kKEdMcIcoyd3EITKvfFP8kh3S8dQszsZbF70%3D&reserved=0= >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sandragayer7%40gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM. >> >> Soprano Singer >> www.sandragayer.com >> >> Broadcast Presenter >> www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html >> >> Actor >> www.visablepeople.com >> >> Voiceover Artist >> www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/darrell.hilliker%40gmail.com > -- Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM. Soprano Singer www.sandragayer.com Broadcast Presenter www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html Actor www.visablepeople.com Voiceover Artist www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer From ninam0814 at gmail.com Mon Jul 29 13:47:41 2019 From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:47:41 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Time is running out! Register for the 2019 Southeast Regional Student Seminar! Message-ID: <58B648F2-8F68-48A4-97C2-B6B81A56A34B@gmail.com> Hello students!                 We hope that your Summer has proved very fun and productive thus far! Southeast Regional Student Seminar is just around the corner, and there is not much time left to register! This year, Southeast Regional Student Seminar is being hosted in Arlington, Virginia, right outside of Washington DC. It’s the perfect way to end your Summer and get excited for the upcoming school year. We have so many beneficial and exciting activities planned; we do not want you to miss out.                 Have you always wanted to network with fellow students, meet President Riccobono, and gain skills that will benefit you within school and the job market? Southeast Regional Student Seminar is the perfect experience for you! Come network and gain valuable skills with us! When: August 16-18 2019 Where: Westin Tysons Corner in Arlington, Virginia. Transportation: Students are responsible for transportation to and from the hotel (closest airport is Ronald Reagan International Airport) and a registration fee of roughly $75, in addition to outside funding sources. Registration: We are asking that students register as soon as possible. To register, click here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNNgaOlJrOfR7ubUXte95TF8TLX7GnA7vDEanIkd_3WwdVEw/viewform?pli=1 Contact: Contact Kenia Flores kenia.florez at furman.edu or Kathryn Webster nabs.president at gmail.com with any questions Attached you will find the Southeast Regional Student Seminar flyer. Please feel free to share and spread the word! We are so excited to see you all in Virginia this August. Don’t hesitate to reach out with any questions, and do not forget to register!! best, Nina Marranca | Southeast Regional Student Seminar Planning Committee -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06af01d54626$74527440$5cf75cc0$@gmail.com> Dear Amy, First and foremost, I am proud of you. It was impressive to witness the 2019 scholarship class share during our annual business meeting; and even more memorable to see how many of you dove into supporting our efforts with ambition and poise. Thank you for sending such a kind message. Syed, the rest of the NABS Board, and myself are grateful for your sincerity and success. Please don't hesitate to reach out with us at any moment; and I also personally invite you to join our committee efforts on the national level. It's never goodbye; it's always see you soon! With such kind regards, Kathryn Kathryn C. Webster President | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind Nabs.president at gmail.com www.nabslink.org -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Amy Albin via NABS-L Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:35 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Amy Albin Subject: [NABS-L] Thank you! Dear Kathryn, Syed, and NABS, I’m Amy Albin, a 2019 scholarship winner. I’d like to thank Kathryn and Syed for being on call for us finalists and giving us tips. I’d like to thank NABS for welcoming us with open arms to your division. Everyone puts a lot of work into making the convention and the scholarship program an amazing experience, so I just want to extend my gratitude to everyone! Best, Amy Albin _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nabs.president%40gmail.com From ninam0814 at gmail.com Mon Jul 29 18:44:28 2019 From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:44:28 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Now Podcast Planning Call Reminder Message-ID: <9A1D0F3B-57E0-4B7A-A794-9EEEDE2E3DB0@gmail.com> hello students!                 I hope that you are all enjoying a busy Summer. I would like to invite you to participate in a planning call for the NABS Now Podcast (happening on Thursday August 1st at 9 PM EST on the NABS Line).                 A group of dedicated students has been working on this project, and we are so excited to share it with you all!                 The NABS Now Podcast is a podcast being created by the National Association of Blind Students. It’s funny and informative, and we would love to involve more of our members. It’s a unique way to get involved with our national student division, and we encourage all to participate. Podcast experience is not required; everyone is welcome. Come with ideas and tons of enthusiasm! When: August 1st at 9 PM EST Call: (712) 770-5197. Access code: 265669                 If you have any questions or ideas, please do not hesitate to reach out. My email is ninam0814 at gmail.com. I hope to see many awesome students on the call! Best, Nina Marranca From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu Mon Jul 29 18:49:16 2019 From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:49:16 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Now Podcast Planning Call Reminder In-Reply-To: <9A1D0F3B-57E0-4B7A-A794-9EEEDE2E3DB0@gmail.com> References: <9A1D0F3B-57E0-4B7A-A794-9EEEDE2E3DB0@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am very interested. Thank you for the invitation. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:45 PM Nina Marranca via NABS-L wrote: > > > hello students! > > I hope that you are all enjoying a busy Summer. I would > like to invite you to participate in a planning call for the NABS Now > Podcast (happening on Thursday August 1st at 9 PM EST on the NABS Line). > > A group of dedicated students has been working on this > project, and we are so excited to share it with you all! > > The NABS Now Podcast is a podcast being created by the > National Association of Blind Students. It’s funny and informative, and we > would love to involve more of our members. It’s a unique way to get > involved with our national student division, and we encourage all to > participate. Podcast experience is not required; everyone is welcome. Come > with ideas and tons of enthusiasm! > > When: August 1st at 9 PM EST > > Call: (712) 770-5197. Access code: 265669 > > If you have any questions or ideas, please do not hesitate > to reach out. My email is ninam0814 at gmail.com. I hope to see many awesome > students on the call! > > Best, > > Nina Marranca > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu > -- *Selvin Linder * 336-645-0252 From nabs.president at gmail.com Mon Jul 29 19:18:17 2019 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn Webster, National Student President) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:18:17 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Announcement - 2019-20 NABS Committees Message-ID: <078a01d54642$60f03b00$22d0b100$@gmail.com> Hi wonderful NABS Members! I am so pumped to announce our 2019-20 national student division committees, some of which I hope many of you will be more than interested in joining! Please find monthly meeting times below; and direct question to the committee chairs. This year, our push is to have more voices across all of our committees. Each of you have the power to drive our efforts forward, but only if you make your voice heard 😊 Stay tuned for individual committee emails that will share more info on the work the committees are focusing on. All committees meet on the NABS conference line: 712-770-5197,,265669#. Diversity & Inclusion Committee Chair: Ana Martinez (martinezana770 at gmail.com) Meetings: First Sunday of each month at 8pm eastern Communications Committee Chair: Mausam Mehta (mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com) Meetings: Second Sunday of each month at 8pm eastern Fundraising Committee Chair: Elizabeth Rouse (elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com ) Meetings: Second Sunday of each month at 9pm eastern Legislative Committee Chair: Justin Salisbury (president at alumni.ecu.edu ) Meetings: Third Sunday of each month at 8pm eastern Forward together! Love, Kathryn Kathryn C. Webster President | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind Nabs.president at gmail.com www.nabslink.org From amyralbin at gmail.com Mon Jul 29 22:19:16 2019 From: amyralbin at gmail.com (Amy Albin) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:19:16 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences Message-ID: Hi All, I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve been totally blind since birth. So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't get the full idea because left and right change relative to the person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a cookbook recipe. Like: 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol about 10 feet. 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then another bench... And so on. But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that are the way I think about it. I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Best, Amy Albin From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 00:08:53 2019 From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:08:53 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can use the tactile maps from the American printing House to start building a spatial map. You could also use 3-D models or other tactile devices to put things together and figure out how they come together spacially. I will have to agree with many people that may put this point across, not all blind people think in words even if they were born blind from birth. If you think about it, it makes it a lot more complex to think that way because you are right, things change constantly. I wasn’t born blind, but that didn’t mean that when I went BLIND, I wasn’t able to visualize stuff and raise my spacial awareness. If you think about it, all the things that you interact with like shapes and other things as they are what they are, whether you feel them or see them. So however you interact with them, your mind stores those images away for later. So picturing it in your head, is no more different than holding it in your hands. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2019, at 18:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > > I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but > I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve > been totally blind since birth. > > So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather > than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing > my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine > the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived > here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know > the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North > is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. > > It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a > logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that > is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a > college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just > walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined > corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So > then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't > get the full idea because left and right change relative to the > person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. > > > > I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a > cookbook recipe. Like: > > 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. > 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol about 10 feet. > 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then > another bench... And so on. > > But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not > really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I > am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that > are the way I think about it. > > I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial > concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or > suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks in advance! > > Best, > > Amy Albin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com From amyralbin at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 00:29:09 2019 From: amyralbin at gmail.com (Amy Albin) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:29:09 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Mariya. On 7/29/19, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L wrote: > You can use the tactile maps from the American printing House to start > building a spatial map. You could also use 3-D models or other tactile > devices to put things together and figure out how they come together > spacially. I will have to agree with many people that may put this point > across, not all blind people think in words even if they were born blind > from birth. If you think about it, it makes it a lot more complex to think > that way because you are right, things change constantly. I wasn’t born > blind, but that didn’t mean that when I went BLIND, I wasn’t able to > visualize stuff and raise my spacial awareness. If you think about it, all > the things that you interact with like shapes and other things as they are > what they are, whether you feel them or see them. So however you interact > with them, your mind stores those images away for later. So picturing it in > your head, is no more different than holding it in your hands. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 29, 2019, at 18:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but >> I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve >> been totally blind since birth. >> >> So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather >> than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing >> my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine >> the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived >> here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know >> the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North >> is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. >> >> It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a >> logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that >> is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a >> college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just >> walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined >> corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So >> then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't >> get the full idea because left and right change relative to the >> person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. >> >> >> >> I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a >> cookbook recipe. Like: >> >> 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. >> 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol about 10 >> feet. >> 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then >> another bench... And so on. >> >> But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not >> really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I >> am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that >> are the way I think about it. >> >> I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial >> concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or >> suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Best, >> >> Amy Albin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com > From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 01:02:06 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:02:06 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] EPUB Message-ID: <25498089-31C1-415F-91A7-AC9BB0F7FFC0@gmail.com> Hi, Does anyone use to read electronic books? If so, do you find it accessible and did you find it easy to sign up? Thank you, Vejas From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 01:09:14 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:09:14 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Amy, I'm also totally blind and had always had issues with spatial orientation. I find it difficult to create mental maps. Tactile maps aren't helpful for me because I can't translate the page into my mental map, although if they work for you that's great. What helps me is to write a route down. For example, this week I have an intensive program on a campus I have been to, but that is in a building I haven't. My mom and I went to the campus ahead of time and did it a couple times. I took intensive notes on what to do and where to turn. This way, even though I can't necessarily remember the whole route yet, I still have the notes that I can rely on. Of course, if you get lost you can always feel free to ask for help if you can't find it, but this can really maxime your independence and boost your confidence. Hope this helps, Vejas > On 29 Jul 2019, at 15:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi All, > > I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but > I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve > been totally blind since birth. > > So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather > than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing > my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine > the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived > here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know > the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North > is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. > > It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a > logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that > is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a > college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just > walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined > corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So > then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't > get the full idea because left and right change relative to the > person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. > > > > I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a > cookbook recipe. Like: > > 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. > 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol about 10 feet. > 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then > another bench... And so on. > > But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not > really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I > am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that > are the way I think about it. > > I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial > concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or > suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks in advance! > > Best, > > Amy Albin > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From amyralbin at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 01:19:19 2019 From: amyralbin at gmail.com (Amy Albin) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 21:19:19 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Vejas. Also, out of curiosity, did you have trouble as a kid with things like buttoning, tying shoes, etc? On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Amy, > I'm also totally blind and had always had issues with spatial orientation. > I find it difficult to create mental maps. Tactile maps aren't helpful for > me because I can't translate the page into my mental map, although if they > work for you that's great. > What helps me is to write a route down. For example, this week I have an > intensive program on a campus I have been to, but that is in a building I > haven't. My mom and I went to the campus ahead of time and did it a couple > times. I took intensive notes on what to do and where to turn. This way, > even though I can't necessarily remember the whole route yet, I still have > the notes that I can rely on. > Of course, if you get lost you can always feel free to ask for help if you > can't find it, but this can really maxime your independence and boost your > confidence. > Hope this helps, > Vejas >> On 29 Jul 2019, at 15:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but >> I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve >> been totally blind since birth. >> >> So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather >> than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing >> my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine >> the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived >> here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know >> the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North >> is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. >> >> It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a >> logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that >> is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a >> college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just >> walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined >> corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So >> then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't >> get the full idea because left and right change relative to the >> person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. >> >> >> >> I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a >> cookbook recipe. Like: >> >> 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. >> 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol about 10 >> feet. >> 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then >> another bench... And so on. >> >> But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not >> really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I >> am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that >> are the way I think about it. >> >> I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial >> concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or >> suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Best, >> >> Amy Albin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com > From braillemasterjustin at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 02:09:46 2019 From: braillemasterjustin at gmail.com (Justin Heard) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 22:09:46 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] EPUB In-Reply-To: <25498089-31C1-415F-91A7-AC9BB0F7FFC0@gmail.com> References: <25498089-31C1-415F-91A7-AC9BB0F7FFC0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009BA528-52FE-45D4-A8FE-3D530FEBA0DA@gmail.com> Use what? EPUB? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > Does anyone use to read electronic books? If so, do you find it accessible and did you find it easy to sign up? > Thank you, > Vejas > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/braillemasterjustin%40gmail.com From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 02:21:32 2019 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 21:21:32 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Fundraising Invitation!! Message-ID: Good evening all, The National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee would like to personally invite each and every one of you to our August committee call. Each month, we meet on the second Sunday at 9 o’clock Eastern standard time to discuss all the upcoming, exciting ways that NABS can raise money. You don’t want to miss these engaging and dynamic calls! After all, as students, the money comes back to benefit us in the long run. 😀 To join us, dial 712-770-5197 and use access code 265669. If you have any questions about upcoming projects or if you would like to suggest any new ideas before our August call, please feel free to reach out to me. Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Rouse Chair | Fundraising Committee Board Member | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com 563-210-1854 From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 02:44:50 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:44:50 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Amy, Yes, I had trouble with all of that. Some things are still rather challenging, but I've learned to live with it. Sometimes I just have to "play around" with something to get it to work. For example, I find plugging things into outlets can be hard. I just try different outlets of various angles until I get it. Hope this helps, Vejas > On 29 Jul 2019, at 18:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: > > Thanks, Vejas. > > Also, out of curiosity, did you have trouble as a kid with things like > buttoning, tying shoes, etc? > >> On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Amy, >> I'm also totally blind and had always had issues with spatial orientation. >> I find it difficult to create mental maps. Tactile maps aren't helpful for >> me because I can't translate the page into my mental map, although if they >> work for you that's great. >> What helps me is to write a route down. For example, this week I have an >> intensive program on a campus I have been to, but that is in a building I >> haven't. My mom and I went to the campus ahead of time and did it a couple >> times. I took intensive notes on what to do and where to turn. This way, >> even though I can't necessarily remember the whole route yet, I still have >> the notes that I can rely on. >> Of course, if you get lost you can always feel free to ask for help if you >> can't find it, but this can really maxime your independence and boost your >> confidence. >> Hope this helps, >> Vejas >>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 15:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but >>> I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve >>> been totally blind since birth. >>> >>> So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather >>> than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing >>> my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine >>> the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived >>> here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know >>> the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North >>> is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. >>> >>> It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a >>> logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that >>> is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a >>> college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just >>> walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined >>> corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So >>> then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't >>> get the full idea because left and right change relative to the >>> person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. >>> >>> >>> >>> I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a >>> cookbook recipe. Like: >>> >>> 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. >>> 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol about 10 >>> feet. >>> 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then >>> another bench... And so on. >>> >>> But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not >>> really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I >>> am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that >>> are the way I think about it. >>> >>> I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial >>> concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or >>> suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Amy Albin >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From amyralbin at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 12:12:44 2019 From: amyralbin at gmail.com (Amy Albin) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 08:12:44 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for your answers, Vejas. It does seem like we have similar challenges. I just am really curious if people think the same way I do. So, Vejas, is what I described the same way you think? I'm just curious. Like I really can't do any mental imagery at all. Thanks for the answers. And outlets have been hard for me too. On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Amy, > Yes, I had trouble with all of that. > Some things are still rather challenging, but I've learned to live with it. > Sometimes I just have to "play around" with something to get it to work. For > example, I find plugging things into outlets can be hard. I just try > different outlets of various angles until I get it. > Hope this helps, > Vejas >> On 29 Jul 2019, at 18:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Thanks, Vejas. >> >> Also, out of curiosity, did you have trouble as a kid with things like >> buttoning, tying shoes, etc? >> >>> On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Amy, >>> I'm also totally blind and had always had issues with spatial >>> orientation. >>> I find it difficult to create mental maps. Tactile maps aren't helpful >>> for >>> me because I can't translate the page into my mental map, although if >>> they >>> work for you that's great. >>> What helps me is to write a route down. For example, this week I have an >>> intensive program on a campus I have been to, but that is in a building I >>> haven't. My mom and I went to the campus ahead of time and did it a >>> couple >>> times. I took intensive notes on what to do and where to turn. This way, >>> even though I can't necessarily remember the whole route yet, I still >>> have >>> the notes that I can rely on. >>> Of course, if you get lost you can always feel free to ask for help if >>> you >>> can't find it, but this can really maxime your independence and boost >>> your >>> confidence. >>> Hope this helps, >>> Vejas >>>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 15:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but >>>> I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve >>>> been totally blind since birth. >>>> >>>> So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather >>>> than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing >>>> my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine >>>> the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived >>>> here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know >>>> the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North >>>> is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. >>>> >>>> It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a >>>> logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that >>>> is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a >>>> college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just >>>> walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined >>>> corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So >>>> then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't >>>> get the full idea because left and right change relative to the >>>> person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a >>>> cookbook recipe. Like: >>>> >>>> 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. >>>> 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol about >>>> 10 >>>> feet. >>>> 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then >>>> another bench... And so on. >>>> >>>> But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not >>>> really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I >>>> am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that >>>> are the way I think about it. >>>> >>>> I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial >>>> concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or >>>> suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Amy Albin >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com > From amyralbin at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 12:16:23 2019 From: amyralbin at gmail.com (Amy Albin) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 08:16:23 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I guess the reason I'm so curious is because I think my spatial issues are not simply caused by total blindness, not something experienced by everyone totally blind since birth. On 7/30/19, Amy Albin wrote: > Thanks for your answers, Vejas. It does seem like we have similar > challenges. > > I just am really curious if people think the same way I do. So, Vejas, > is what I described the same way you think? I'm just curious. Like I > really can't do any mental imagery at all. > > Thanks for the answers. > > And outlets have been hard for me too. > > On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi Amy, >> Yes, I had trouble with all of that. >> Some things are still rather challenging, but I've learned to live with >> it. >> Sometimes I just have to "play around" with something to get it to work. >> For >> example, I find plugging things into outlets can be hard. I just try >> different outlets of various angles until I get it. >> Hope this helps, >> Vejas >>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 18:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Vejas. >>> >>> Also, out of curiosity, did you have trouble as a kid with things like >>> buttoning, tying shoes, etc? >>> >>>> On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi Amy, >>>> I'm also totally blind and had always had issues with spatial >>>> orientation. >>>> I find it difficult to create mental maps. Tactile maps aren't helpful >>>> for >>>> me because I can't translate the page into my mental map, although if >>>> they >>>> work for you that's great. >>>> What helps me is to write a route down. For example, this week I have >>>> an >>>> intensive program on a campus I have been to, but that is in a building >>>> I >>>> haven't. My mom and I went to the campus ahead of time and did it a >>>> couple >>>> times. I took intensive notes on what to do and where to turn. This >>>> way, >>>> even though I can't necessarily remember the whole route yet, I still >>>> have >>>> the notes that I can rely on. >>>> Of course, if you get lost you can always feel free to ask for help if >>>> you >>>> can't find it, but this can really maxime your independence and boost >>>> your >>>> confidence. >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> Vejas >>>>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 15:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but >>>>> I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve >>>>> been totally blind since birth. >>>>> >>>>> So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather >>>>> than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing >>>>> my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine >>>>> the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived >>>>> here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know >>>>> the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North >>>>> is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. >>>>> >>>>> It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a >>>>> logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that >>>>> is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a >>>>> college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just >>>>> walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined >>>>> corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So >>>>> then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't >>>>> get the full idea because left and right change relative to the >>>>> person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a >>>>> cookbook recipe. Like: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. >>>>> 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol >>>>> about >>>>> 10 >>>>> feet. >>>>> 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then >>>>> another bench... And so on. >>>>> >>>>> But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not >>>>> really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I >>>>> am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that >>>>> are the way I think about it. >>>>> >>>>> I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial >>>>> concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or >>>>> suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Amy Albin >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com >> > From alpineimagination at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 13:28:09 2019 From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 06:28:09 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Spatial Orientation Experiences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8950D00D-E2E3-4D25-AAF8-E341DF76D217@gmail.com> Hi Amy, I think talking about this is very helpful. I've just sent you an email off-list... Hope it worked. Thanks, Vejas > On 30 Jul 2019, at 05:16, Amy Albin via NABS-L wrote: > > I guess the reason I'm so curious is because I think my spatial issues > are not simply caused by total blindness, not something experienced by > everyone totally blind since birth. > >> On 7/30/19, Amy Albin wrote: >> Thanks for your answers, Vejas. It does seem like we have similar >> challenges. >> >> I just am really curious if people think the same way I do. So, Vejas, >> is what I described the same way you think? I'm just curious. Like I >> really can't do any mental imagery at all. >> >> Thanks for the answers. >> >> And outlets have been hard for me too. >> >>> On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi Amy, >>> Yes, I had trouble with all of that. >>> Some things are still rather challenging, but I've learned to live with >>> it. >>> Sometimes I just have to "play around" with something to get it to work. >>> For >>> example, I find plugging things into outlets can be hard. I just try >>> different outlets of various angles until I get it. >>> Hope this helps, >>> Vejas >>>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 18:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Vejas. >>>> >>>> Also, out of curiosity, did you have trouble as a kid with things like >>>> buttoning, tying shoes, etc? >>>> >>>>> On 7/29/19, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Hi Amy, >>>>> I'm also totally blind and had always had issues with spatial >>>>> orientation. >>>>> I find it difficult to create mental maps. Tactile maps aren't helpful >>>>> for >>>>> me because I can't translate the page into my mental map, although if >>>>> they >>>>> work for you that's great. >>>>> What helps me is to write a route down. For example, this week I have >>>>> an >>>>> intensive program on a campus I have been to, but that is in a building >>>>> I >>>>> haven't. My mom and I went to the campus ahead of time and did it a >>>>> couple >>>>> times. I took intensive notes on what to do and where to turn. This >>>>> way, >>>>> even though I can't necessarily remember the whole route yet, I still >>>>> have >>>>> the notes that I can rely on. >>>>> Of course, if you get lost you can always feel free to ask for help if >>>>> you >>>>> can't find it, but this can really maxime your independence and boost >>>>> your >>>>> confidence. >>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>> Vejas >>>>>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 15:19, Amy Albin via NABS-L >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that spatial orientation has been discussed on here before, but >>>>>> I was just curious if anyone’s experiences are similar to mine. I’ve >>>>>> been totally blind since birth. >>>>>> >>>>>> So the way I am, I can't make a mental map. I think in words rather >>>>>> than pictures. So for instance, if you told me to imagine I'm facing >>>>>> my desk, then asked where is my bedroom door. I don't actually imagine >>>>>> the desk and how I turn to get to the door, even though I've lived >>>>>> here long enough I do it automatically. Instead I think, hmm. I know >>>>>> the desk is on the west wall, and the door is on the north wall. North >>>>>> is to the right of west, so therefore the door is to my right. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's like instead of just picturing my bedroom, I have to solve a >>>>>> logic puzzle in my head, and I do it completely verbally. So if that >>>>>> is for my tiny bedroom, you can imagine how it is for a big hotel or a >>>>>> college campus. And then, well, the campus zig zags. So you can't just >>>>>> walk north, or make sensible 90 degree turns at actual defined >>>>>> corners. It's north, west, back north, now a little northwest... So >>>>>> then I just follow landmarks. But when I do left and right, I don't >>>>>> get the full idea because left and right change relative to the >>>>>> person, so I'd much rather use cardinal directions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I compensate by learning routes and taking notes I can study like a >>>>>> cookbook recipe. Like: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Leave the student center at the back exit. >>>>>> 2. With the door behind me, walk forward and to the left, diagnol >>>>>> about >>>>>> 10 >>>>>> feet. >>>>>> 3. Follow the benches on the left. It's one bench, a garbage can, then >>>>>> another bench... And so on. >>>>>> >>>>>> But when I'm writing that description of a college campus, I'm not >>>>>> really picturing myself walking out the door and doing that, or if I >>>>>> am, the image is extremely dim. It's all the words that I wrote that >>>>>> are the way I think about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am working with a wonderful teacher to help me learn spatial >>>>>> concepts. However, if anyone has similar experiences and/or >>>>>> suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Amy Albin >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amyralbin%40gmail.com >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 16:13:34 2019 From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (Simon Bonenfant) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:13:34 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?YouTube_TV_doesn=E2=80=99t_have_video_Descrip?= =?utf-8?q?tion?= In-Reply-To: <0290F439-510A-4807-841E-7D3FC5A983BE@mail.broward.edu> References: <7431D5F5-F94B-4189-AC1E-8A14C8D6D63E@gmail.com> <0290F439-510A-4807-841E-7D3FC5A983BE@mail.broward.edu> Message-ID: <8739A9D9-00B7-49A5-B55A-CD22D73AAB4C@gmail.com> Well, just my opinion here, but I would not cancel pay service just because it does not have audio description. There’s a lot of other good advantages, and you cannot expect everyone to have audio description. It would be good in a perfect world, but that is not where we are and it’s not what we are for several years when it comes to audio description. It’s not surprising to me at all, and I use YouTube TV and think it is a great service. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Jorge Paez via NABS-L wrote: > > TV providers aren’t required to cary video descriptions and channels aren’t obligated to do it either. > I believe all that is voluntary at this point. > The only ones that are required to do so by law are the movie theaters, and a lot of the studios like Amazon do that but that’s of their own will. > > > >> On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote: >> >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless are expecting the information and you recognize the sender. >> ________________________________ >> >> Well, just tried the YouTube TV app, and guess what? No video description! I can’t believe it. I believe in equal access to television. There is a secondary audio programming channel, but it doesn’t carry the video described version. Until they add the video description feature to the YouTube TV app, I have canceled my membership in the middle of the trial. >> >> Armando >> The Blind Advocate Blog >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblindadvocate.com&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=d1ugxYngI1hN7kefGGvL8oyhaon6RAATxr2g9zD4Brs%3D&reserved=0= >> Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=y41hzVZ%2Fp7GjSW4EnYB%2F1RC95fQt2oU4DfRQW%2Bap5TE%3D&reserved=0= >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fpaezja%2540mail.broward.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=fkwzjChg43WNMnQIaDXRoNWWZYcYYxygY9T1YqT2rc0%3D&reserved=0= > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com From kaden.calahan at gmail.com Wed Jul 31 03:44:53 2019 From: kaden.calahan at gmail.com (Kaden Calahan) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 21:44:53 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?YouTube_TV_doesn=E2=80=99t_have_video_Descrip?= =?utf-8?q?tion?= In-Reply-To: <8739A9D9-00B7-49A5-B55A-CD22D73AAB4C@gmail.com> References: <7431D5F5-F94B-4189-AC1E-8A14C8D6D63E@gmail.com> <0290F439-510A-4807-841E-7D3FC5A983BE@mail.broward.edu> <8739A9D9-00B7-49A5-B55A-CD22D73AAB4C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I’ve been a regular subscriber to YouTube TV since March of 2018, and I must say that although it does not provide an option for audio described content, the accessibility of this service across a wide range of platforms is outstanding. Additionally, Google is always expanding this television outlet by adding more channels and content. I have been thoroughly impressed with its ease of access, as I have successfully used and enjoyed YouTube TV on Chromecast, Apple TV, PC, Android and iPhone. Its simple interface allows for quick and efficient access, and that, along with its stability, makes subscribing to the service worthwhile, despite the absence of audio described content, to me, at this point. Highly recommended. Best, Kaden Calahan On 7/30/19, Simon Bonenfant via NABS-L wrote: > Well, just my opinion here, but I would not cancel pay service just because > it does not have audio description. There’s a lot of other good advantages, > and you cannot expect everyone to have audio description. It would be good > in a perfect world, but that is not where we are and it’s not what we are > for several years when it comes to audio description. It’s not surprising to > me at all, and I use YouTube TV and think it is a great service. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 26, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Jorge Paez via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> TV providers aren’t required to cary video descriptions and channels >> aren’t obligated to do it either. >> I believe all that is voluntary at this point. >> The only ones that are required to do so by law are the movie theaters, >> and a lot of the studios like Amazon do that but that’s of their own will. >> >> >> >>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT >>> click links or open attachments unless are expecting the information and >>> you recognize the sender. >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Well, just tried the YouTube TV app, and guess what? No video >>> description! I can’t believe it. I believe in equal access to television. >>> There is a secondary audio programming channel, but it doesn’t carry the >>> video described version. Until they add the video description feature to >>> the YouTube TV app, I have canceled my membership in the middle of the >>> trial. >>> >>> Armando >>> The Blind Advocate Blog >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblindadvocate.com&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=d1ugxYngI1hN7kefGGvL8oyhaon6RAATxr2g9zD4Brs%3D&reserved=0= >>> Main Phone: (202) 915-1006 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=y41hzVZ%2Fp7GjSW4EnYB%2F1RC95fQt2oU4DfRQW%2Bap5TE%3D&reserved=0= >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org%2Fpaezja%2540mail.broward.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cpaezja%40mail.broward.edu%7Ca4245b24406849cc516e08d711ff8084%7C7bd8e62933bc43c4870ccd3841be1658%7C0%7C0%7C636997661393612973&sdata=fkwzjChg43WNMnQIaDXRoNWWZYcYYxygY9T1YqT2rc0%3D&reserved=0= >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sbonenfant2%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kaden.calahan%40gmail.com > From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu Wed Jul 31 20:46:09 2019 From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:46:09 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Now Podcast Planning Call Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <9A1D0F3B-57E0-4B7A-A794-9EEEDE2E3DB0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Nina: I am very sorry that I can not make it to the call tomorrow. I have to work from 7:15 AM to 11:15 PM. Will this be a one time thing? I appreciate your time. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:49 PM Selvin Linder < sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu> wrote: > I am very interested. Thank you for the invitation. > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:45 PM Nina Marranca via NABS-L < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> >> >> hello students! >> >> I hope that you are all enjoying a busy Summer. I would >> like to invite you to participate in a planning call for the NABS Now >> Podcast (happening on Thursday August 1st at 9 PM EST on the NABS Line). >> >> A group of dedicated students has been working on this >> project, and we are so excited to share it with you all! >> >> The NABS Now Podcast is a podcast being created by the >> National Association of Blind Students. It’s funny and informative, and we >> would love to involve more of our members. It’s a unique way to get >> involved with our national student division, and we encourage all to >> participate. Podcast experience is not required; everyone is welcome. Come >> with ideas and tons of enthusiasm! >> >> When: August 1st at 9 PM EST >> >> Call: (712) 770-5197. Access code: 265669 >> >> If you have any questions or ideas, please do not >> hesitate to reach out. My email is ninam0814 at gmail.com. I hope to see >> many awesome students on the call! >> >> Best, >> >> Nina Marranca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu >> > > > -- > *Selvin Linder * > 336-645-0252 > > > -- *Selvin Linder * 336-645-0252 From mrnicopetrillo at gmail.com Wed Jul 31 21:57:17 2019 From: mrnicopetrillo at gmail.com (Nico Petrillo) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 17:57:17 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Now Podcast Planning Call Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <9A1D0F3B-57E0-4B7A-A794-9EEEDE2E3DB0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4337FBB3-F702-44AB-9D2B-D15BB9E9EB8B@gmail.com> Podcast pals will be every month on the first Thursday. They start at 9 PM eastern on the Nabs conference line. > On Jul 31, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Nina: > > I am very sorry that I can not make it to the call tomorrow. I have to work > from 7:15 AM to 11:15 PM. Will this be a one time thing? > I appreciate your time. > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:49 PM Selvin Linder < > sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu> wrote: > >> I am very interested. Thank you for the invitation. >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:45 PM Nina Marranca via NABS-L < >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> hello students! >>> >>> I hope that you are all enjoying a busy Summer. I would >>> like to invite you to participate in a planning call for the NABS Now >>> Podcast (happening on Thursday August 1st at 9 PM EST on the NABS Line). >>> >>> A group of dedicated students has been working on this >>> project, and we are so excited to share it with you all! >>> >>> The NABS Now Podcast is a podcast being created by the >>> National Association of Blind Students. It’s funny and informative, and we >>> would love to involve more of our members. It’s a unique way to get >>> involved with our national student division, and we encourage all to >>> participate. Podcast experience is not required; everyone is welcome. Come >>> with ideas and tons of enthusiasm! >>> >>> When: August 1st at 9 PM EST >>> >>> Call: (712) 770-5197. Access code: 265669 >>> >>> If you have any questions or ideas, please do not >>> hesitate to reach out. My email is ninam0814 at gmail.com. I hope to see >>> many awesome students on the call! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Nina Marranca >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Selvin Linder * >> 336-645-0252 >> >> >> > > -- > *Selvin Linder * > 336-645-0252 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mrnicopetrillo%40gmail.com