From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Wed May  1 18:35:26 2019
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 11:35:26 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Dictionary and thesaurus apps on Iphone
Message-ID: <33981E43-ACF0-4D99-B484-30E37F02294E@gmail.com>

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone knows of a nice, accessible Iphone app for a dictionary and/or a thesaurus. I have the Oxford dictionary on my braillenote Apex, but it sometimes needs to be re-installed after a reset and hasn't really been updated in the last 12 years or so.
Thanks,
Vejas 

From mendezgabriel2000 at gmail.com  Thu May  2 14:15:55 2019
From: mendezgabriel2000 at gmail.com (Gabriel Mendez-Frances)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 09:15:55 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Convention Roommates
Message-ID: <CAFLM_bjPh+kGhvdWweNmwc9eYoLOCRa5YmgYY8q2zurVdZy6NQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good evening!

Is anyone else looking for roommates to help cut costs for the national NFB
convention in Las Vegas? Things were more expensive than I anticipated and
I think getting more to a room would be a much better choice economically
for everyone.
-- 

Sincerely,

Gabriel Mendez-Frances

Tarrant HS C/O 2019

205.569.9852

From enes.saribas at gmail.com  Thu May  2 14:37:52 2019
From: enes.saribas at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?ZW5lcyBzYXLEsWJhxZ8=?=)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 15:37:52 +0100
Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Convention Roommates
In-Reply-To: <CAFLM_bjPh+kGhvdWweNmwc9eYoLOCRa5YmgYY8q2zurVdZy6NQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLM_bjPh+kGhvdWweNmwc9eYoLOCRa5YmgYY8q2zurVdZy6NQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c0ecf812-e0f8-735b-12ae-928678b49ddd@gmail.com>

Hi,

I hope this isn't too off topic, but how much is the cost to attend?

Best,

Enes

On 5/2/2019 3:15 PM, Gabriel Mendez-Frances via NABS-L wrote:
> Good evening!
>
> Is anyone else looking for roommates to help cut costs for the national NFB
> convention in Las Vegas? Things were more expensive than I anticipated and
> I think getting more to a room would be a much better choice economically
> for everyone.


From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Thu May  2 14:41:03 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 10:41:03 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Convention Roommates
In-Reply-To: <c0ecf812-e0f8-735b-12ae-928678b49ddd@gmail.com>
References: <CAFLM_bjPh+kGhvdWweNmwc9eYoLOCRa5YmgYY8q2zurVdZy6NQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<c0ecf812-e0f8-735b-12ae-928678b49ddd@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vE8JSQsvrwcDfr1e=ySOSRm4Rk8qWJ4qF9vdUtNKOiMOg@mail.gmail.com>

Go to the nfb.org website. To learn more.

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:39 AM enes sarıbaş via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I hope this isn't too off topic, but how much is the cost to attend?
>
> Best,
>
> Enes
>
> On 5/2/2019 3:15 PM, Gabriel Mendez-Frances via NABS-L wrote:
> > Good evening!
> >
> > Is anyone else looking for roommates to help cut costs for the national
> NFB
> > convention in Las Vegas? Things were more expensive than I anticipated
> and
> > I think getting more to a room would be a much better choice economically
> > for everyone.
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Thu May  2 14:45:29 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 10:45:29 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NFB Convention Roommates
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vE8JSQsvrwcDfr1e=ySOSRm4Rk8qWJ4qF9vdUtNKOiMOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLM_bjPh+kGhvdWweNmwc9eYoLOCRa5YmgYY8q2zurVdZy6NQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<c0ecf812-e0f8-735b-12ae-928678b49ddd@gmail.com>
	<CACud-vE8JSQsvrwcDfr1e=ySOSRm4Rk8qWJ4qF9vdUtNKOiMOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vGtB+Cv8wXDO0ozhzTfP=XLvJDT2FiNRQS_CDGuNVhsoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the link. This also has hotel information.
https://www.nfb.org/get-involved/national-convention

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:41 AM Selvin Linder <
sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu> wrote:

> Go to the nfb.org website. To learn more.
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:39 AM enes sarıbaş via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I hope this isn't too off topic, but how much is the cost to attend?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Enes
>>
>> On 5/2/2019 3:15 PM, Gabriel Mendez-Frances via NABS-L wrote:
>> > Good evening!
>> >
>> > Is anyone else looking for roommates to help cut costs for the national
>> NFB
>> > convention in Las Vegas? Things were more expensive than I anticipated
>> and
>> > I think getting more to a room would be a much better choice
>> economically
>> > for everyone.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> *Selvin Linder *
> 336-645-0252
>
>
>

-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Fri May  3 00:35:14 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:35:14 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] New website
Message-ID: <CACud-vG-eByC38yM99Q+AWHPQudNtCcOuOVAkR5FSwhG4PY2=w@mail.gmail.com>

Good evening Students:

I have a new website feel free to check it out. This site is still under
development. But you can still view it. If you are interested you my
subscribe to the website to receive newsletters and listen to the podcasts.
I don't know when I will start making them yet. Since I have work coming
up. But I am still going to interview some of my friends and you can hear
them on the podcast.

To subscribe scroll all the way to the bottom of the site and enter your
email. I you will get a email letting you know you are on the list. You may
also unsubscribe at anytime or ask me and I can remove you.
https://yeagroup21.wixsite.com/group23

-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Fri May  3 01:24:05 2019
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:24:05 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
Message-ID: <3901F95C-65CA-45F3-B280-8B08E295351F@gmail.com>

Dear everyone,
I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my internship. I am not sure what to do. 

Shikha Desai
Bachelor in Social Work
Georgia State University 18
Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 

From annajee82 at gmail.com  Fri May  3 01:40:48 2019
From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:40:48 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
In-Reply-To: <3901F95C-65CA-45F3-B280-8B08E295351F@gmail.com>
References: <3901F95C-65CA-45F3-B280-8B08E295351F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2CFE575-C4EE-4E2C-BDAC-4285B2F4B655@gmail.com>

You can... if you have the money or can fight to convince DVR to pay for it, which I feel would be tough...
Obviously it should be your choice, but I believe if it were me, I would go about it a different way, that costs much less time, money, and resources. With an understanding of the training you’ve already had, it should be fairly easy to gain further skills and practice new things just from problem solving with US, other blind folks!

Just my thoughts...

Anna 

> On May 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear everyone,
> I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my internship. I am not sure what to do. 
> 
> Shikha Desai
> Bachelor in Social Work
> Georgia State University 18
> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From misokwak12 at gmail.com  Fri May  3 01:48:45 2019
From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:48:45 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
In-Reply-To: <F2CFE575-C4EE-4E2C-BDAC-4285B2F4B655@gmail.com>
References: <3901F95C-65CA-45F3-B280-8B08E295351F@gmail.com>
	<F2CFE575-C4EE-4E2C-BDAC-4285B2F4B655@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMe9x_E7ePvojnk8FkX4aifkaCjcjrBfmSBq3mn0Kpc_LCBxMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Obviously it differs from person to person, but I think you may have
more skills than you are giving yourself credits for...
I think if you are thrown into a situation where you have to do things
you will find ways to do them.
I attended a summer session at one of the NFB centers right after high
school, and thought I would go back for the full length training but
after finishing college, I changed my mind because when I tried out
living in an apartment on my own with roommates during the latter part
of my college career, I could figure out how to do things like cooking
meat and cleaning... Could I have been more effective and efficient
had I gone to a full length training? Probably yes. But I had made an
intentional, personal decision to leverage what I had learned from the
summer program and just practiced and learned my way around when I
actually had to do it in real life, and I do not regret that decision.


On 5/2/19, Anna Givens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> You can... if you have the money or can fight to convince DVR to pay for it,
> which I feel would be tough...
> Obviously it should be your choice, but I believe if it were me, I would go
> about it a different way, that costs much less time, money, and resources.
> With an understanding of the training you’ve already had, it should be
> fairly easy to gain further skills and practice new things just from problem
> solving with US, other blind folks!
>
> Just my thoughts...
>
> Anna
>
>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear everyone,
>> I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my
>> requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a
>> vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision
>> and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center
>> at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a
>> summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I
>> won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my
>> masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my
>> internship. I am not sure what to do.
>>
>> Shikha Desai
>> Bachelor in Social Work
>> Georgia State University 18
>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community
>> Partnership 19
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com
>
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>


From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Fri May  3 01:58:54 2019
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:58:54 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
In-Reply-To: <F2CFE575-C4EE-4E2C-BDAC-4285B2F4B655@gmail.com>
References: <3901F95C-65CA-45F3-B280-8B08E295351F@gmail.com>
	<F2CFE575-C4EE-4E2C-BDAC-4285B2F4B655@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7102372E-7D14-4575-A263-025F446F01FE@gmail.com>

Yes you are right but i want to move out of georgia. Georgia has a training center but they don’t use sleep shades. I don’t know how I would be able to convince my parents and my vr counselor. Shikha Desai
Bachelor in Social Work
Georgia State University 18
Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 

> On May 2, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Anna Givens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> You can... if you have the money or can fight to convince DVR to pay for it, which I feel would be tough...
> Obviously it should be your choice, but I believe if it were me, I would go about it a different way, that costs much less time, money, and resources. With an understanding of the training you’ve already had, it should be fairly easy to gain further skills and practice new things just from problem solving with US, other blind folks!
> 
> Just my thoughts...
> 
> Anna 
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear everyone,
>> I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my internship. I am not sure what to do. 
>> 
>> Shikha Desai
>> Bachelor in Social Work
>> Georgia State University 18
>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com
> 
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From mauraloberg at gmail.com  Fri May  3 07:07:24 2019
From: mauraloberg at gmail.com (Maura Loberg)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 02:07:24 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
In-Reply-To: <7102372E-7D14-4575-A263-025F446F01FE@gmail.com>
References: <3901F95C-65CA-45F3-B280-8B08E295351F@gmail.com>
	<F2CFE575-C4EE-4E2C-BDAC-4285B2F4B655@gmail.com>
	<7102372E-7D14-4575-A263-025F446F01FE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71488C99-D8AA-4C88-9964-7D7B1F928CCA@gmail.com>

You could probably do this if you stated your case well enough. It's your fault that you didn't take it seriously the first time, but the state should give you another shot at another place since they should ideally be promoting independence and don't have a structure discovery program themselves. i'm in the process of getting approved to go to CCB, so I'm kind of in the same boat. Also, if you feel you need this training soon, you should hold off of jobs and interships till you have that figured out. Let me know how it goes, good luck!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes you are right but i want to move out of georgia. Georgia has a training center but they don’t use sleep shades. I don’t know how I would be able to convince my parents and my vr counselor. Shikha Desai
> Bachelor in Social Work
> Georgia State University 18
> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Anna Givens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> You can... if you have the money or can fight to convince DVR to pay for it, which I feel would be tough...
>> Obviously it should be your choice, but I believe if it were me, I would go about it a different way, that costs much less time, money, and resources. With an understanding of the training you’ve already had, it should be fairly easy to gain further skills and practice new things just from problem solving with US, other blind folks!
>> 
>> Just my thoughts...
>> 
>> Anna 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear everyone,
>>> I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my internship. I am not sure what to do. 
>>> 
>>> Shikha Desai
>>> Bachelor in Social Work
>>> Georgia State University 18
>>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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> 
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From eschlenker at cox.net  Fri May  3 11:48:03 2019
From: eschlenker at cox.net (Emily Schlenker)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 06:48:03 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
In-Reply-To: <71488C99-D8AA-4C88-9964-7D7B1F928CCA@gmail.com>
References: <3901F95C-65CA-45F3-B280-8B08E295351F@gmail.com>
	<F2CFE575-C4EE-4E2C-BDAC-4285B2F4B655@gmail.com>
	<7102372E-7D14-4575-A263-025F446F01FE@gmail.com>
	<71488C99-D8AA-4C88-9964-7D7B1F928CCA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1324E23C-9F87-430E-8499-99B4ABA68B59@cox.net>

This is the perfect opportunity for you to take responsibility for your own skills training, because obviously the other way of going to a training center did not really work for you. If you want it badly enough, you will do the following: get out there and just start traveling, and use this list and other online connections with those of us who have done the very same thing as a resource. I think training centers are great, but they were not an option for me since I was raising a child starting at a young age, so I have some experience making things happen without having that particular opportunity. Anyone can do this if you want it and take responsibility for yourself.
Good luck. You will do fine. Just don’t give up if things don’t come easily to you in the beginning. I had a lot of struggles, but I am still here and I am more independent than ever.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2019, at 2:07 AM, Maura Loberg via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> You could probably do this if you stated your case well enough. It's your fault that you didn't take it seriously the first time, but the state should give you another shot at another place since they should ideally be promoting independence and don't have a structure discovery program themselves. i'm in the process of getting approved to go to CCB, so I'm kind of in the same boat. Also, if you feel you need this training soon, you should hold off of jobs and interships till you have that figured out. Let me know how it goes, good luck!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes you are right but i want to move out of georgia. Georgia has a training center but they don’t use sleep shades. I don’t know how I would be able to convince my parents and my vr counselor. Shikha Desai
>> Bachelor in Social Work
>> Georgia State University 18
>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Anna Givens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can... if you have the money or can fight to convince DVR to pay for it, which I feel would be tough...
>>> Obviously it should be your choice, but I believe if it were me, I would go about it a different way, that costs much less time, money, and resources. With an understanding of the training you’ve already had, it should be fairly easy to gain further skills and practice new things just from problem solving with US, other blind folks!
>>> 
>>> Just my thoughts...
>>> 
>>> Anna 
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear everyone,
>>>> I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my internship. I am not sure what to do. 
>>>> 
>>>> Shikha Desai
>>>> Bachelor in Social Work
>>>> Georgia State University 18
>>>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Fri May  3 16:51:12 2019
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (simon bonenfant)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 12:51:12 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
Message-ID: <5ccc7192.1c69fb81.1dda.859c@mx.google.com>

Hey All. 
While I have not attended any training centers I have heard a lot about them and great things from them and I know a lot of people that went to them and have achieved great success from them. 
When I first read this thread I thought it might be good for you to go back but then when I read more from other responses I kind of changed my tune. I agre with whoever said that you should try to live life and deal with things as they arise. You would have more leverege in a real world setting is my opinion because you could ask for help and you owd  have no limits on what asistance you could get. That is just my opinion of course my view is very limited because I don't know all of your personal situation of what happened at your last training and other factors that go into it but that is just what I have found from reading this thread. 
Thanks. 
Simon. 
Sent from my braille note touch.

On May 3, 2019 3:07 AM, Maura Loberg via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> You could probably do this if you stated your case well enough. It's your fault that you didn't take it seriously the first time, but the state should give you another shot at another place since they should ideally be promoting independence and don't have a structure discovery program themselves. i'm in the process of getting approved to go to CCB, so I'm kind of in the same boat. Also, if you feel you need this training soon, you should hold off of jobs and interships till you have that figured out. Let me know how it goes, good luck!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 2, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes you are right but i want to move out of georgia. Georgia has a training center but they don’t use sleep shades. I don’t know how I would be able to convince my parents and my vr counselor. Shikha Desai
> > Bachelor in Social Work
> > Georgia State University 18
> > Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
> > 
> >> On May 2, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Anna Givens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >> You can... if you have the money or can fight to convince DVR to pay for it, which I feel would be tough...
> >> Obviously it should be your choice, but I believe if it were me, I would go about it a different way, that costs much less time, money, and resources. With an understanding of the training you’ve already had, it should be fairly easy to gain further skills and practice new things just from problem solving with US, other blind folks!
> >> 
> >> Just my thoughts...
> >> 
> >> Anna 
> >> 
> >>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Dear everyone,
> >>> I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my internship. I am not sure what to do. 
> >>> 
> >>> Shikha Desai
> >>> Bachelor in Social Work
> >>> Georgia State University 18
> >>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> NABS-L mailing list
> >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com
> >> 
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> >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com
> > 
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>
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From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Fri May  3 20:14:26 2019
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 16:14:26 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Training center advice
In-Reply-To: <5ccc7192.1c69fb81.1dda.859c@mx.google.com>
References: <5ccc7192.1c69fb81.1dda.859c@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <2473F525-DE6D-4EB4-B30A-5E0A786CEF17@gmail.com>

I agree the training center gave me a lot of confidence. I just have to practice it. 

Shikha Desai
Bachelor in Social Work
Georgia State University 18
Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 

> On May 3, 2019, at 12:51 PM, simon bonenfant via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey All. 
> While I have not attended any training centers I have heard a lot about them and great things from them and I know a lot of people that went to them and have achieved great success from them. 
> When I first read this thread I thought it might be good for you to go back but then when I read more from other responses I kind of changed my tune. I agre with whoever said that you should try to live life and deal with things as they arise. You would have more leverege in a real world setting is my opinion because you could ask for help and you owd  have no limits on what asistance you could get. That is just my opinion of course my view is very limited because I don't know all of your personal situation of what happened at your last training and other factors that go into it but that is just what I have found from reading this thread. 
> Thanks. 
> Simon. 
> Sent from my braille note touch.
> 
>> On May 3, 2019 3:07 AM, Maura Loberg via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> You could probably do this if you stated your case well enough. It's your fault that you didn't take it seriously the first time, but the state should give you another shot at another place since they should ideally be promoting independence and don't have a structure discovery program themselves. i'm in the process of getting approved to go to CCB, so I'm kind of in the same boat. Also, if you feel you need this training soon, you should hold off of jobs and interships till you have that figured out. Let me know how it goes, good luck!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes you are right but i want to move out of georgia. Georgia has a training center but they don’t use sleep shades. I don’t know how I would be able to convince my parents and my vr counselor. Shikha Desai
>>> Bachelor in Social Work
>>> Georgia State University 18
>>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Anna Givens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can... if you have the money or can fight to convince DVR to pay for it, which I feel would be tough...
>>>> Obviously it should be your choice, but I believe if it were me, I would go about it a different way, that costs much less time, money, and resources. With an understanding of the training you’ve already had, it should be fairly easy to gain further skills and practice new things just from problem solving with US, other blind folks!
>>>> 
>>>> Just my thoughts...
>>>> 
>>>> Anna 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Shikha via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear everyone,
>>>>> I attended lcb in 2012.  I graduated in 2013.  I finished all of my requirements but I didn’t really take it seriously. Also i was a vegetarian at the time but now i eat meat. Also i have lost more vision and my braille is not strong. Am I allowed to go to another train center at Colorado or blind inc. I enjoy the city and i like the cold. I have a summer internship with AAPD they are reaching out to Georgia from dc. so I won’t be able to come to national convention. I am graduating with my masters in social work. I am hoping to get a job in August after my internship. I am not sure what to do. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shikha Desai
>>>>> Bachelor in Social Work
>>>>> Georgia State University 18
>>>>> Master in Social Work Georgia State University Specialize Community Partnership 19 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/annajee82%40gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com
>>> 
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From annis1 at live.marshall.edu  Sat May  4 01:06:55 2019
From: annis1 at live.marshall.edu (Annis, Tara)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 01:06:55 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] free, accessible screen recording software
Message-ID: <BL0PR01MB4659BB8F1BC8CF6D8EB6F666D6360@BL0PR01MB4659.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello all,

I'm looking for a free, accessible screen recording software that is  compatible with JAWS. I'm just needing a really basic one that records my voice but shows the screen as I navigate since my project is demonstrating using jaws with various web sites  for a sighted audience. I only need to record my voice with audio and the screen visually. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tara




From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Sat May  4 01:12:24 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 21:12:24 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] free, accessible screen recording software
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR01MB4659BB8F1BC8CF6D8EB6F666D6360@BL0PR01MB4659.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <BL0PR01MB4659BB8F1BC8CF6D8EB6F666D6360@BL0PR01MB4659.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vH9XQf4vyefbDVZeOwPqg9rRvQwoHeiQhUiFabw8ufRUg@mail.gmail.com>

Can you use zoom.com ?

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 9:08 PM Annis, Tara via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm looking for a free, accessible screen recording software that is
> compatible with JAWS. I'm just needing a really basic one that records my
> voice but shows the screen as I navigate since my project is demonstrating
> using jaws with various web sites  for a sighted audience. I only need to
> record my voice with audio and the screen visually. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Tara
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
>


-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:29:03 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 14:29:03 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder: Join NABS Outreach Committee Call,
 Tomorrow at 9 PM Eastern
Message-ID: <823C17DC-7863-48AA-804B-AD02D436E1A6@gmail.com>

Dear Students, 

This is a friendly reminder that we will be having our outreach committee call tomorrow at 9 pm eastern. We will be talking all things convention to gear up for our large family reunion in Las Vegas, so come prepared with your questions as we will have an insightful and informative discussion. 

Call: (712) 770-5197,,265669 

We hope to see you all there! 

Thanks, 
Matthew Gip
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nations blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. 


From mendezgabriel2000 at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:32:01 2019
From: mendezgabriel2000 at gmail.com (Gabriel Mendez-Frances)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 16:32:01 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder: Join NABS Outreach Committee Call,
 Tomorrow at 9 PM Eastern
In-Reply-To: <823C17DC-7863-48AA-804B-AD02D436E1A6@gmail.com>
References: <823C17DC-7863-48AA-804B-AD02D436E1A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFLM_biZV-c-2d-35CHLve=PjqymbuepGURwv4Kd24ooapAPJA@mail.gmail.com>

Looking forward to this! I'm fairly new to NFB so I'll be sure to attend
and get the details.

-- 

Sincerely,

Gabriel Mendez-Frances

Tarrant HS C/O 2019

205.569.9852

On Sun, May 5, 2019, 4:30 PM Matthew Gip via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Dear Students,
>
> This is a friendly reminder that we will be having our outreach committee
> call tomorrow at 9 pm eastern. We will be talking all things convention to
> gear up for our large family reunion in Las Vegas, so come prepared with
> your questions as we will have an insightful and informative discussion.
>
> Call: (712) 770-5197,,265669
>
> We hope to see you all there!
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew Gip
> President | California Association of Blind Students
> Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California
> Co-chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee
> Phone: (559) 375-2068
> Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends
> who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nations blind. Every day we work
> together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mendezgabriel2000%40gmail.com
>

From trishak.nfb at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:59:39 2019
From: trishak.nfb at gmail.com (Trisha Kulkarni)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 14:59:39 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Restaurant Fundraiser Update
Message-ID: <8E93739A-F47F-45DC-9DFD-78236905F8DB@gmail.com>

Dear Nabsters, 
It is your favorite fundraising committee here with the scoop on our training center fundraisers. As a quick re-cap, we are creating some friendly competition among the student representatives from Colorado, Louisiana, and Blind Inc. to see who can raise the most money for NABS through local restaurant take-overs. The dates are set, and now we need you to get involved. If you live in the area or know people who do and want to see your center come out on top, make sure to help these students have a great turnout. 
 
Our first event is quickly approaching. The Blind Inc. fundraiser will be tomorrow May 6 from 5:00 to 9:00 PM at the Chipotle on 800 Washington Ave SE in Minneapolis. Go to https://socialportal.chipotle.com/fundraiser/social/public/portal/Vr3UyhonfXHbACKksEhQdxmPcHD4hy1kxR4GaYc0Zds5lHd06pIaNplbW91Wm1wd38bPf02nR9c7ZnAH4yrXGFdsAaTLUcb9L0Bq77vLbEQUDtl7GflfKDsNO7RDoQPQ/520190506172 for more information. 
 
Next up we have the Colorado fundraiser happening on May 9 at the Chili’s at 8450 West Cross Dr. in Littleton. A flyer will be coming at you very soon with the specific times, but if you live in the area, please mark your calendar for this Thursday night at Chili’s. 
 
Last but certainly not least we have our fine folks at the Louisiana Center who have chosen to hold their event at a local favorite for the people of Ruston. There event will be for lunch and dinner hours at Ponchatoulas, 109 E. Park Ave, Ruston, LA 71270 on May 13. Additionally, their sister restaurant Log Cabin has also offered to sponsor NABS next Monday. Although we are not counting these profits toward the competition, if you still want to eat at Log Cabin, be sure to mention NABS so we can receive a portion of the profits. That address is 11906 Farmerville Hwy, Ruston, LA 71270. Also see the attached flyer for more information. 
 
A huge thank you to Chloe Wu from Blind Inc., Shawn Abraham and Rudy Frausto from Colorado, and Tim Olukanni and Ahbee Orton from Louisiana for making these events possible. We could not do what we do without our awesome students. 
 
Best, 
Trisha 
 




Trisha Kulkarni 
Stanford University | Class of 2022 
2nd Vice President | California Association of Blind Students
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee
A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind
 937.361.2363 
trishak.nfb at gmail.com

From sandragayer7 at gmail.com  Sun May  5 22:06:16 2019
From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 23:06:16 +0100
Subject: [NABS-L] Guide Dog List serve.
Message-ID: <CAJcYH68w-Cw8q1m2bkk0QWZX7NETVpPZyE_LWBvbe0GMAVmwLw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,
Is anyone aware of a list serve for guide dog owners? Not the social
media sites like facebook and twitter and so on but a list serve like
this one which communicates via email exchanges?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Very best wishes,
Sandra.

-- 
Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.

Soprano Singer
www.sandragayer.com

Broadcast Presenter
www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html

Actor
www.visablepeople.com

Voiceover Artist
www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer


From dsykora29 at gmail.com  Sun May  5 22:56:03 2019
From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 18:56:03 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Guide Dog List serve.
In-Reply-To: <CAJcYH68w-Cw8q1m2bkk0QWZX7NETVpPZyE_LWBvbe0GMAVmwLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJcYH68w-Cw8q1m2bkk0QWZX7NETVpPZyE_LWBvbe0GMAVmwLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F7DDFF73-3080-462B-A390-E7FF3210B342@gmail.com>

Yes, NAGDU does have an email list just like NABS.
Danielle 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> Is anyone aware of a list serve for guide dog owners? Not the social
> media sites like facebook and twitter and so on but a list serve like
> this one which communicates via email exchanges?
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
> 
> -- 
> Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.
> 
> Soprano Singer
> www.sandragayer.com
> 
> Broadcast Presenter
> www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html
> 
> Actor
> www.visablepeople.com
> 
> Voiceover Artist
> www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dsykora29%40gmail.com


From trishak.nfb at gmail.com  Sun May  5 23:19:48 2019
From: trishak.nfb at gmail.com (Trisha Kulkarni)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 16:19:48 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] May Fundraising Call
Message-ID: <DD5DFC7F-AB87-47B7-87CA-E485461065F0@gmail.com>

Hey Nabsters, 
Just a friendly reminder that the fundraising committee will be having our monthly call one week from today on May 12 from 9:00 to 9:30 PM eastern standard time. Topics will include the NABS Walkathon and other projects for national Convention. New members are always welcome. 

Call in at 712.770.5197 followed by access code 265669. 

We hope to see you there! 

Best, 
Trisha  

Trisha Kulkarni 
Stanford University | Class of 2022 
2nd Vice President | California Association of Blind Students
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee
A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind
 937.361.2363 
trishak.nfb at gmail.com

From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com  Mon May  6 01:58:06 2019
From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:58:06 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] April NABS Notes
Message-ID: <CAOpEY1cmosy8PJT+BTLTjKTyS4gyaJG1pRR=1CEHdEtV-G+JPA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Nabsters!
As the semester comes to a close and summer beckons, we wish you the
best of luck on your finals. Remember to drink more water than coffee,
(hard, I know), and sleep for more than 2 hours a night. We can get
through this.

Take a well-needed break from studying and check out the April issue
of the NABS notes. Lots of exciting opportunities brewing!
You can find the NABS notes attached at the bottom of this email, and
also at the following link:

http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-april-2019

As always, feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

Best,
-- 
Mausam Mehta
University of Virginia Class of 2022
Secretary | Virginia Association of Blind Students
Co-Chair | NABS Legislative Committee
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National federation of the Blind
(540) 466-6033
mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com
www.nabslink.org
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From cassandradamstra at gmail.com  Mon May  6 15:20:52 2019
From: cassandradamstra at gmail.com (Cassandra Damstra)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 11:20:52 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Guide Dog List serve.
In-Reply-To: <F7DDFF73-3080-462B-A390-E7FF3210B342@gmail.com>
References: <CAJcYH68w-Cw8q1m2bkk0QWZX7NETVpPZyE_LWBvbe0GMAVmwLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F7DDFF73-3080-462B-A390-E7FF3210B342@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAGWLMaEFFTgSc-3BiWXBXZZOh5TR3L4KoLO6GLLi4U8i_dq7w@mail.gmail.com>

I have had a poodle guide from Pilot Dogs for almost 4 years now. I would
gladly answer any questions anyone may have.

Sincerely,
Cassandra Damstra

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 18:57, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Yes, NAGDU does have an email list just like NABS.
> Danielle
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 5, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> > Is anyone aware of a list serve for guide dog owners? Not the social
> > media sites like facebook and twitter and so on but a list serve like
> > this one which communicates via email exchanges?
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Very best wishes,
> > Sandra.
> >
> > --
> > Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.
> >
> > Soprano Singer
> > www.sandragayer.com
> >
> > Broadcast Presenter
> > www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html
> >
> > Actor
> > www.visablepeople.com
> >
> > Voiceover Artist
> > www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NABS-L mailing list
> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
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From trishak.nfb at gmail.com  Tue May  7 02:39:15 2019
From: trishak.nfb at gmail.com (Trisha Kulkarni)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 19:39:15 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?Support_Blind_Students__at_Chili=E2=80=99s_Ma?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_9!?=
References: <F0BB2E4B-AE59-4B96-811B-BD5215F22CFC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50E055F6-1065-4ABE-A2F9-4F5F215AF26A@gmail.com>

Hi Students, 
As promised, please find the restaurant take-over information for the Colorado Center for the Blind's fundraiser below. Also note, the address on my previous email was incorrect. I am sorry for any confusion. 
Thank you! 

Best, 
Trisha 

Trisha Kulkarni 
Stanford University | Class of 2022 
2nd Vice President | California Association of Blind Students
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Fundraising Committee
A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind
 937.361.2363 
trishak.nfb at gmail.com

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Big Shane <shawnabraham21 at gmail.com>
> Date: May 6, 2019 at 4:55:14 PM PDT
> To: trishak.nfb at gmail.com
> Subject: Support Blind Students  at Chili’s May 9!
> 
>  
> The National Association of  Blind Students is holding a fund-raiser Thursday, May 9 at Chili’s.  All you need to do is enjoy a meal at Chili’s, 3860 River Point Parkway, Sheridan, CO, 80110, mention the National Association of Blind Students (NABS), and the restaurant will contribute 15 percent of your meal’s cost to NABS!
>  
> Could it be any easier to support blind students than that?
>  
> NABS, also known as the “Student Division” of the National Federation of the Blind, promotes equality for blind students by serving as a source of information, forum for networking and vehicle for collective action. Our work on the local, state, and national levels is firmly rooted in the conviction that blindness need not prevent one from excelling in a chosen field of study or living a full and productive life. Above all else, we are dedicated to encouraging blind students to strive to achieve their maximum potential and realize their dreams.
>  
> 
> 

From johnawright98 at gmail.com  Tue May  7 16:23:21 2019
From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (johnawright98 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 12:23:21 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] National Convention Highlights Video
Message-ID: <D30460AA-FB17-49F3-8905-496C88C4CCC8@gmail.com>

Hey, friends! 

It’s almost time for National Convention in Las Vegas, and we are hyped! In order to welcome our newest members and first-time convention goers, we thought we could make a “highlight reel” or sorts that features YOU! Grab your phone, camera, or laptop and record a brief (no more than 10-15 second) video on one of the topics provided below to share with people who may need a bit of reassurance before heading to their first convention. 

1. What is your favorite part of convention? 

2. What’s the one thing you wish you knew before attending your first convention? 

3. How have you grown as a person since attending convention? 

Please send all submissions to Janae Burgmeier at janae.burgmeier at gmail.com by 11:59pm on May 15th. 

We can’t wait to hear your responses! 

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
Director, ABLE Mercer 

From dandrews at visi.com  Wed May  8 02:43:34 2019
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 21:43:34 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Can you please share this
Message-ID: <auto-000123061503@mailfront1.g2host.com>


>
>From: "Suzanne Turner" <smturner.234 at gmail.com>
>To: <david.andrews at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Can you please share this
>Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 21:00:45 -0400
>
>The Cleveland Chapter has a first-timer who is seeking a roommate. 
>Her name is Regina Mason and if you have a room and seeking a 
>delightful, compassionate individual to share room expenses at 
>National, please reach out to her by the contact information below.
>
>Regina Mason
>(216) 331-7222
>(216) 762-3939
><mailto:Regina.Mason216 at gmail.com>Regina.Mason216 at gmail.com
>
>Thank you!
>
>Suzanne Hartfield-Turner, President
>NFBOH-Cleveland Chapter
>C: (216) 990-6199
>P: (641) 715-3900
>Ex: 582705
>A: PO Box 141077
>Cleveland, Ohio 44114
>E: 
><mailto:President.NFB.ClevelandOhio at Gmail.com>President.NFB.ClevelandOhio at Gmail.com
>
>Please visit and take a moment to like our Facebook Page!
><https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationOfTheBlindOfOhioClevelandChapter/>https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationOfTheBlindOfOhioClevelandChapter/ 
>
>
>The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
>characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise 
>the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create 
>obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life 
>you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
>


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From annis1 at live.marshall.edu  Wed May  8 15:39:44 2019
From: annis1 at live.marshall.edu (Annis, Tara)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 15:39:44 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] screen recording software
Message-ID: <BL0PR01MB4659F302E97BE81FDC8B71CCD6320@BL0PR01MB4659.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Just wanted to saythanks for suggesting the zoom.  It seems to be working well for the screen recording; it's easier to use than the Loom or the Free camera ones. 
Thanks,
Tara



From gwunder at nfb.org  Wed May  8 23:32:56 2019
From: gwunder at nfb.org (Wunder,
	Gary)
Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 18:32:56 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] FW: California Department of Rehabilitation -
 Administrative Services Division Deputy Director Opening
Message-ID: <auto-000122203226@mailfront2.g2host.com>



From: Dennis, Ceasor at DOR [mailto:Ceasor.Dennis at dor.ca.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 12:31 PM
To: DOR Recruitment
Subject: California Department of Rehabilitation - Administrative 
Services Division Deputy Director Opening



Greetings!



The California Department of Rehabilitation (DOR) is looking to fill 
its Administrative Services Division (ASD) Deputy Director vacancy 
and I think your organization or professional network may have great 
candidates who could be a good fit for our department.



Don't miss out on this rare opportunity to join the executive team of 
the largest vocational rehabilitation provider in the United States! 
The DOR works in partnership with consumers and stakeholders to 
provide services and advocacy resulting in employment, independent 
living and equality for individuals with disabilities. The ASD Deputy 
Director provides leadership direction to the Financial Management 
Branch (Accounting, Budgets, Fiscal Forecasting and Research, 
Business Services, and Contracts and Procurement) and the Human 
Resources Branch (Labor Relations, Personnel Services, and Staff 
Development). The ASD Deputy Director leads the teams that are 
responsible for the development, implementation, administration, and 
assessment of the DOR's policies, programs, and procedures related to 
the Administrative Services Division.



At the DOR, we recognize the value of having representation from the 
communities we serve, particularly in our executive leadership, so 
individuals with disabilities are strongly encouraged to apply! For 
more information about the position and to apply, please click the 
following link and follow the application instructions: 
<https://jobs.ca.gov/CalHrPublic/Jobs/JobPosting.aspx?JobControlId=154981>DOR 
ASD Deputy Director



The deadline to receive applications is Wednesday, May 15, 2019.



Please feel free to share this announcement widely to your network! 
And if this sounds like an opportunity you may be interested in and 
you have any questions or can otherwise refer us quality colleagues, 
please contact me at 
<file:///\\dorgroup\group\Public%20Folder\Diversity%20Officer\ASD%20Deputy%20-%20WSPDO%20Updates\VRED%20Recruitment\Recruitment.ResourceMailbox at dor.ca.gov>Recruitment.ResourceMailbox at dor.ca.gov.




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From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Thu May  9 00:15:37 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 17:15:37 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS/Performing Arts Joint Division Call
Message-ID: <AB5475BA-D086-488D-B557-8F30298B4919@gmail.com>

Hello all, 

We have some exciting news! NABS is partnering with the NFB Performing Arts Division in order to present a joint conference call all about, guess what, performing arts! We will discuss topics such as getting involved with performing arts (theatre, dance, visual arts, music, etc) in college, and we will also be able to hear from some recent college graduates who are pursuing careers in related fields. This will be a really fun call, so you don’t want to miss it. Everyone is welcome, even if you’re not majoring in a performing arts related field but you’re just interested to learn more! 

The call will take place on Sunday, May 12th, at 8pm EST. To join, call (712) 770-5197, access code 265669.

Best, 
Matthew Gip 
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068 
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com



From johnawright98 at gmail.com  Thu May  9 05:02:35 2019
From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (johnawright98 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 01:02:35 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program 2019
Message-ID: <8FDA2144-6F40-432F-85B9-232CCCF24E54@gmail.com>

Hello, everyone! 

National Convention is fast approaching, and we are getting ready for another awesome Federation family reunion! We just wanted to give you all a heads up that the 2019 NABS Mentorship Program applications are opening up THIS SATURDAY, May 11th. If you’re a pro at convention, please consider applying to mentor a blind student who may be newer to the convention scene, so that they feel welcomed to our family. If you’re a newbie, welcome! We are so glad to have you joining us in Las Vegas. We would highly encourage you to participate in this program as a mentee, so that you can network with other students and explore convention together. The application will be open from May 11th to June 11th. 

Cheers,

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
Director, ABLE Mercer

From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com  Thu May  9 14:50:17 2019
From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 10:50:17 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program 2019
In-Reply-To: <8FDA2144-6F40-432F-85B9-232CCCF24E54@gmail.com>
References: <8FDA2144-6F40-432F-85B9-232CCCF24E54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E9B109DF-AA73-4D6E-851C-09EDD460754C@gmail.com>

Hello, I have a question about the application requirements for this? And what do I need to do during convention if I am excepted for the position? Also, just out of curiosity how will the travel and rooming situation work out with this kind of program?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2019, at 01:02, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone! 
> 
> National Convention is fast approaching, and we are getting ready for another awesome Federation family reunion! We just wanted to give you all a heads up that the 2019 NABS Mentorship Program applications are opening up THIS SATURDAY, May 11th. If you’re a pro at convention, please consider applying to mentor a blind student who may be newer to the convention scene, so that they feel welcomed to our family. If you’re a newbie, welcome! We are so glad to have you joining us in Las Vegas. We would highly encourage you to participate in this program as a mentee, so that you can network with other students and explore convention together. The application will be open from May 11th to June 11th. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Johna Wright
> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
> Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
> Director, ABLE Mercer
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com


From president.iabs at gmail.com  Thu May  9 16:54:10 2019
From: president.iabs at gmail.com (Kathryn Olsen)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 16:54:10 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program 2019
In-Reply-To: <E9B109DF-AA73-4D6E-851C-09EDD460754C@gmail.com>
References: <8FDA2144-6F40-432F-85B9-232CCCF24E54@gmail.com>,
	<E9B109DF-AA73-4D6E-851C-09EDD460754C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR05MB31957456F0384281234F0638F6330@DM5PR05MB3195.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Mariya,

These are all great questions, and I thank you for reaching out. All of this information will be sent out along with the application link on Saturday. If you still have questions after reading through the material, please feel free to reach out to me directly. My email is President.iabs at gmail.com.

All the best,

Katy

Katy Olsen

President | Iowa Association of Blind Students
Vice President | National Federation of the Blind of Iowa
515.783.4522 | president.iabs at gmail.com

________________________________
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:54 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Mariya Vasileva
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program 2019

Hello, I have a question about the application requirements for this? And what do I need to do during convention if I am excepted for the position? Also, just out of curiosity how will the travel and rooming situation work out with this kind of program?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2019, at 01:02, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello, everyone!
>
> National Convention is fast approaching, and we are getting ready for another awesome Federation family reunion! We just wanted to give you all a heads up that the 2019 NABS Mentorship Program applications are opening up THIS SATURDAY, May 11th. If you’re a pro at convention, please consider applying to mentor a blind student who may be newer to the convention scene, so that they feel welcomed to our family. If you’re a newbie, welcome! We are so glad to have you joining us in Las Vegas. We would highly encourage you to participate in this program as a mentee, so that you can network with other students and explore convention together. The application will be open from May 11th to June 11th.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Johna Wright
> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division
> Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
> Director, ABLE Mercer
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com

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From johnawright98 at gmail.com  Thu May  9 17:19:56 2019
From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (johnawright98 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 13:19:56 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program 2019
In-Reply-To: <E9B109DF-AA73-4D6E-851C-09EDD460754C@gmail.com>
References: <8FDA2144-6F40-432F-85B9-232CCCF24E54@gmail.com>
	<E9B109DF-AA73-4D6E-851C-09EDD460754C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <289F8B9B-0E95-401D-A745-E0F3B3681F3D@gmail.com>

Hi, Mariya! 

Once the application is released, all the requirements will be listed. You’ll fill out the application, have a brief interview, and provide recommenders on your behalf. Also, if you are accepted as a mentor or mentee, your specific responsibilities, including required events, will be communicated to you via email. This program will not affect travel or rooming, as you are still responsible for those aspects of your trip. 

Thanks, 

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
Director, ABLE Mercer

> On May 9, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, I have a question about the application requirements for this? And what do I need to do during convention if I am excepted for the position? Also, just out of curiosity how will the travel and rooming situation work out with this kind of program?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2019, at 01:02, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, everyone! 
>> 
>> National Convention is fast approaching, and we are getting ready for another awesome Federation family reunion! We just wanted to give you all a heads up that the 2019 NABS Mentorship Program applications are opening up THIS SATURDAY, May 11th. If you’re a pro at convention, please consider applying to mentor a blind student who may be newer to the convention scene, so that they feel welcomed to our family. If you’re a newbie, welcome! We are so glad to have you joining us in Las Vegas. We would highly encourage you to participate in this program as a mentee, so that you can network with other students and explore convention together. The application will be open from May 11th to June 11th. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Johna Wright
>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
>> Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
>> Director, ABLE Mercer
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mkvnfb94%40gmail.com
> 
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Thu May  9 17:46:10 2019
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn C. Webster | National Student President)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 13:46:10 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program 2019
In-Reply-To: <289F8B9B-0E95-401D-A745-E0F3B3681F3D@gmail.com>
References: <8FDA2144-6F40-432F-85B9-232CCCF24E54@gmail.com>	<E9B109DF-AA73-4D6E-851C-09EDD460754C@gmail.com>
	<289F8B9B-0E95-401D-A745-E0F3B3681F3D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01d5068f$1716d540$45447fc0$@gmail.com>

Just for everyone's awareness - Katy Olson and Mausam Mehta are co-coordinating the program this year. Please feel free to reach out to them as well!

So excited to have many of you involved!

Best,
Kathryn

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Johna Wright via NABS-L
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 1:20 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: johnawright98 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program 2019

Hi, Mariya! 

Once the application is released, all the requirements will be listed. You’ll fill out the application, have a brief interview, and provide recommenders on your behalf. Also, if you are accepted as a mentor or mentee, your specific responsibilities, including required events, will be communicated to you via email. This program will not affect travel or rooming, as you are still responsible for those aspects of your trip. 

Thanks, 

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students Director, ABLE Mercer

> On May 9, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Mariya Vasileva via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, I have a question about the application requirements for this? And what do I need to do during convention if I am excepted for the position? Also, just out of curiosity how will the travel and rooming situation work out with this kind of program?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2019, at 01:02, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, everyone! 
>> 
>> National Convention is fast approaching, and we are getting ready for another awesome Federation family reunion! We just wanted to give you all a heads up that the 2019 NABS Mentorship Program applications are opening up THIS SATURDAY, May 11th. If you’re a pro at convention, please consider applying to mentor a blind student who may be newer to the convention scene, so that they feel welcomed to our family. If you’re a newbie, welcome! We are so glad to have you joining us in Las Vegas. We would highly encourage you to participate in this program as a mentee, so that you can network with other students and explore convention together. The application will be open from May 11th to June 11th. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Johna Wright
>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service 
>> Division Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students 
>> Director, ABLE Mercer _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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>> com
> 
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From thflute at gmail.com  Fri May 10 15:45:02 2019
From: thflute at gmail.com (Tara Briggs)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 09:45:02 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Math end of the GRE
Message-ID: <189697B5-E416-44F8-A3B0-ACA1E02CAB45@gmail.com>

Hey all! I am hoping for some advice. I plan on taking the GRE at the end of August or the beginning of September. For the past three months, A friend and I have been studying for the test. The writing section is going pretty well and so was the vocabulary. The math  is killing me! First of all, math is not my strong point. I haven’t done any math in literally 10 years. I finished math at the end of 2009. It was a math 970 course that I took online. At the time, I used a whiteboard and thick black markers and bright lights. I have lost vision since then and I’m using the braille. I got the  4 Braille practice books from the GRE  people. In total, that is 80 questions. I feel like most of it was pretty doable. One of the graphing tables did not make any sense to either me or my friend. And incidentally, my friend was the first blind person to graduate from our local University majoring in atmospheric sciences. He definitely knows math. Anyway, for those of you who have needed braille math on the GRE how did you study for it? I know you can get books that will help but in my experience math simply will not scan and be translated into braille. Over the summer, I know I need to continue to study the math as much as I can. Right now, the best thing I can think of to do would be to continue to study those practice books that are already in braille. But I am concerned that that will not be enough for the test. Any help or advice would be great! Thank you!
Tara 

Sent from my iPhone

From misokwak12 at gmail.com  Fri May 10 17:30:32 2019
From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (Miso Kwak)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 13:30:32 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Math end of the GRE
In-Reply-To: <189697B5-E416-44F8-A3B0-ACA1E02CAB45@gmail.com>
References: <189697B5-E416-44F8-A3B0-ACA1E02CAB45@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMe9x_G6ESZEZYKAriyzJD1i7BaMNTzOTxA354ro7d8y0ZcUWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tara, I remember recycling the problems I have worked on. For
instance, I would revisit problems that I remember struggling to solve
a week or two later.
Also, if you have access to Bookshare, there are some GRE practice
materials. Not all of the math sections are easy to read or
transcribed accurately but you can certainly select some problems and
work on those.
Best,
Miso

On 5/10/19, Tara Briggs via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hey all! I am hoping for some advice. I plan on taking the GRE at the end of
> August or the beginning of September. For the past three months, A friend
> and I have been studying for the test. The writing section is going pretty
> well and so was the vocabulary. The math  is killing me! First of all, math
> is not my strong point. I haven’t done any math in literally 10 years. I
> finished math at the end of 2009. It was a math 970 course that I took
> online. At the time, I used a whiteboard and thick black markers and bright
> lights. I have lost vision since then and I’m using the braille. I got the
> 4 Braille practice books from the GRE  people. In total, that is 80
> questions. I feel like most of it was pretty doable. One of the graphing
> tables did not make any sense to either me or my friend. And incidentally,
> my friend was the first blind person to graduate from our local University
> majoring in atmospheric sciences. He definitely knows math. Anyway, for
> those of you who have needed braille math on the GRE how did you study for
> it? I know you can get books that will help but in my experience math simply
> will not scan and be translated into braille. Over the summer, I know I need
> to continue to study the math as much as I can. Right now, the best thing I
> can think of to do would be to continue to study those practice books that
> are already in braille. But I am concerned that that will not be enough for
> the test. Any help or advice would be great! Thank you!
> Tara
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From tbrown.brl at gmail.com  Fri May 10 17:45:05 2019
From: tbrown.brl at gmail.com (Tom Brown)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 13:45:05 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Math end of the GRE
In-Reply-To: <189697B5-E416-44F8-A3B0-ACA1E02CAB45@gmail.com>
References: <189697B5-E416-44F8-A3B0-ACA1E02CAB45@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F99302B9-E94E-47F9-A1FE-F8BB44FAC51B@gmail.com>

Hi Tara,

I have just finished taking the GRE, and I found that the math questions on the test are very similar to the questions found  on the practice test. I had no trouble reading and understanding the questions during the test. I would take a look at the practice test so you are familiar with what kind of questions to expect. If there are any areas, like geometry or basic mathematics, that you are struggling with, I'd recommend finding a tutor or other study tools online.
Will you be using braille and tactile graphics during the test?  If not, I recommend you request them. They are quite helpful, especially for geometry questions. Also, do you have a talking calculator as part of your accommodations? The calculator they provide is very straightforward and easy to use, and is absolutely necessary for the test.

I hope this helps.

Best, 
Tom   

> On May 10, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Tara Briggs via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey all! I am hoping for some advice. I plan on taking the GRE at the end of August or the beginning of September. For the past three months, A friend and I have been studying for the test. The writing section is going pretty well and so was the vocabulary. The math  is killing me! First of all, math is not my strong point. I haven’t done any math in literally 10 years. I finished math at the end of 2009. It was a math 970 course that I took online. At the time, I used a whiteboard and thick black markers and bright lights. I have lost vision since then and I’m using the braille. I got the  4 Braille practice books from the GRE  people. In total, that is 80 questions. I feel like most of it was pretty doable. One of the graphing tables did not make any sense to either me or my friend. And incidentally, my friend was the first blind person to graduate from our local University majoring in atmospheric sciences. He definitely knows math. Anyway, for those of you who have needed braille math on the GRE how did you study for it? I know you can get books that will help but in my experience math simply will not scan and be translated into braille. Over the summer, I know I need to continue to study the math as much as I can. Right now, the best thing I can think of to do would be to continue to study those practice books that are already in braille. But I am concerned that that will not be enough for the test. Any help or advice would be great! Thank you!
> Tara 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From clearinghouse at miusa.org  Fri May 10 23:21:03 2019
From: clearinghouse at miusa.org (MIUSA Clearinghouse)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 16:21:03 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Is anybody here familiar with Clark college
Message-ID: <CACPRCE6yey3rh9+6YLut-Quii8d3DB69-KcXe=isKNrjt9Z5=g@mail.gmail.com>

Happy Friday everybody

We got an inquiry from a blind student coming to do a summer English
program at Clark college in Vancouver Washington. The student wants to
learn about what it's like at the college for blind people including
accessibility and I wanted to see if anybody on this list is going to Clark
college or has been to Clark college and could share any experience.

I expect I will share general details about the American disability service
system in higher education but as you all know, results can vary quite
severely between institutions.

Kind regards
Justin Harford
program coordinator (MIUSA)
jharford at miusa.org

From johnawright98 at gmail.com  Sat May 11 20:35:32 2019
From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (johnawright98 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 16:35:32 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!
Message-ID: <A2F84B7E-5140-48BF-B6C9-F28AB009B605@gmail.com>

Hey, friends! 

The 2019 NABS Mentorship Program Application is launching NOW! To apply to be a mentor or mentee: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSde7w76bUBb9PowhqQtLtma8baC-rMpydejQzO3tuh8D1pY0w/viewform?usp=sf_link

See the info below before applying. 

Thank you for your eagerness to participate in the 2019 National Association of Blind Students Mentorship Program. Below, you will find more information about this program’s timeline and process.
 
Prospective Mentors:
• The application to become a mentor will remain open until June 11th.
• Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Katy Olsen to schedule a phone interview
• The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
• If selected to serve as a mentor for the 2019 NFB National Convention, you will be contacted by the coordinators, and assigned a mentee, no later than June 21st
• You will be required to connect with your mentee no later than Wednesday, July 3rd
• You will be required to attend the 2019 NFB National Convention in its entirety
• Further rules and regulations will be communicated during the interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
 
Prospective Mentees:
• The application to become a mentee will remain ope until June 11th.
• Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Mausam Mehta to schedule an interview
• The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
• You will be assigned a mentor no later than June 21st
• Further information will be communicated during the interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
 
If you have any questionsat this time, please feel free to reach out to Katy Olsen or Mausam Mehta. We look forward to your involvement in this program.
 
Katy Olsen, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program president.iabs at gmail.com 515-783-4522
Mausam Mehta, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com 540-466-6033

Cheers!

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students

From alliefa1999 at gmail.com  Sat May 11 21:00:23 2019
From: alliefa1999 at gmail.com (Alexandra Alfonso)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 17:00:23 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!
In-Reply-To: <A2F84B7E-5140-48BF-B6C9-F28AB009B605@gmail.com>
References: <A2F84B7E-5140-48BF-B6C9-F28AB009B605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <195BBCB0-78A6-4CA1-ACB7-CFA127C6A397@gmail.com>

Hello. What are the requirements of a mentee at convention? Thank you.

> On May 11, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey, friends! 
> 
> The 2019 NABS Mentorship Program Application is launching NOW! To apply to be a mentor or mentee: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSde7w76bUBb9PowhqQtLtma8baC-rMpydejQzO3tuh8D1pY0w/viewform?usp=sf_link
> 
> See the info below before applying. 
> 
> Thank you for your eagerness to participate in the 2019 National Association of Blind Students Mentorship Program. Below, you will find more information about this program’s timeline and process.
> 
> Prospective Mentors:
> • The application to become a mentor will remain open until June 11th.
> • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Katy Olsen to schedule a phone interview
> • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> • If selected to serve as a mentor for the 2019 NFB National Convention, you will be contacted by the coordinators, and assigned a mentee, no later than June 21st
> • You will be required to connect with your mentee no later than Wednesday, July 3rd
> • You will be required to attend the 2019 NFB National Convention in its entirety
> • Further rules and regulations will be communicated during the interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
> 
> Prospective Mentees:
> • The application to become a mentee will remain ope until June 11th.
> • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Mausam Mehta to schedule an interview
> • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> • You will be assigned a mentor no later than June 21st
> • Further information will be communicated during the interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
> 
> If you have any questionsat this time, please feel free to reach out to Katy Olsen or Mausam Mehta. We look forward to your involvement in this program.
> 
> Katy Olsen, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program president.iabs at gmail.com 515-783-4522
> Mausam Mehta, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com 540-466-6033
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Johna Wright
> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
> Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
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From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Sat May 11 21:32:44 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 14:32:44 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS/Performing Arts Joint Call Reminder
Message-ID: <282D96C0-A75A-4F50-98C9-403905C7FDC9@gmail.com>

Hello Students!

This is a friendly reminder that our joint call with the Performing Arts Division will be tomorrow at 8 pm eastern. We will discuss topics such as getting involved with performing arts (theatre, dance, visual arts, music, etc) in college, and we will also be able to hear from some recent college graduates who are pursuing careers in related fields. This will be a really fun call, so you don’t want to miss it. Everyone is welcome, even if you’re not majoring in a performing arts related field but you’re just interested to learn more! 

Call (712) 770-5197,,265669. 

Best, 
Matthew Gip 
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068 
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com



From th404 at comcast.net  Sat May 11 22:28:56 2019
From: th404 at comcast.net (Tina Hansen)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 15:28:56 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
Message-ID: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>

My name is Tina Hansen, and while I'm not a student, I have a friend who is,
and I want to be aware of what's happening with students now.

 

I have a food for thought question I'd like to put out there.

 

I've been looking at the books and other materials on the general market
concerning time management and work life balance. I know this is a critical
concern of students, especially those juggling work, school and family.

 

Many of the books have valuable information about how to organize your life
and time, whether you're a student or not. They don't discuss college, but
they do give valuable tips. I know that when I was last a student, I used a
book on time management that wasn't targeted to students, but was incredibly
valuable. Now that I'm no longer a student, I'm always looking for ways to
improve my own time management skills.

 

As far as work life balance, I view school much like work. For students who
have their priorities right, school is like work. Deadlines for papers,
tests, and so forth are not unlike deadlines for reports in the work place.

 

However, I've not seen a lot in the audio book arena that is specific to the
needs of college students. There are many texts on Learning Ally that
discuss how to be successful in college, and all have valuable information.

 

The closest thing to a targeted book on BARD that I found was Organizing
from the Inside Out for Teens. Other than that, I've not seen a lot of books
out there.

 

In the past, there was more of a gap between the visual paper planners and
those offered in the blind community. Most of the specialty note takers have
some kind of planner, but they're costly. Before the iPhone, you either
needed to improvise some kind of portable planner or buy the only Braille
planner I know of, one from the American Printing House for the Blind. Yet
many of the books still seem to talk about visual planners, at least, when
it comes to the paper type. I have gotten to use my iPhone as a planner, and
I'm so pleased at the many reminder and calendar apps created for it.

 

In the past, before the age of the iPhone, I wondered if there was a need
for anything that would talk about time management from the perspective of a
blind college student. Given the recent increase in mainstream audio
programs, I'm wondering if there is such a need. If there is, the material
could simply come in the form of a single article, blog post or podcast. If
nothing, there could be discussions on how to use your smart phone as a
planner, and what apps are good for that purpose.

 

If nothing, is there still a need for articles, blog posts or podcasts
discussing time management and work life balance from the perspective of a
blind college student? If there is the need, what would the material look
like? How much should be offered? If there isn't the need, what's already
out there? What blog posts, articles or podcasts are out there for any
blind/visually impaired college student? Is there the need for targeted
content? If so, what would it look like? Any thoughts? Thanks.


From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Sun May 12 00:53:39 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 20:53:39 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
In-Reply-To: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>
References: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3F17E257-530B-4C3A-BFC9-A152EF1AC9FB@gmail.com>

I think that a lot of texts are suitable for both blind and sighted students. However, this could open up a very interesting discussion.
I think that time management, in terms of making sure that materials are available for you, accounting for extra times on exams, etc, is where this topic differs for blind students.

On 5/11/19, 18:28, "NABS-L on behalf of Tina Hansen via NABS-L" <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

    My name is Tina Hansen, and while I'm not a student, I have a friend who is,
    and I want to be aware of what's happening with students now.
    
     
    
    I have a food for thought question I'd like to put out there.
    
     
    
    I've been looking at the books and other materials on the general market
    concerning time management and work life balance. I know this is a critical
    concern of students, especially those juggling work, school and family.
    
     
    
    Many of the books have valuable information about how to organize your life
    and time, whether you're a student or not. They don't discuss college, but
    they do give valuable tips. I know that when I was last a student, I used a
    book on time management that wasn't targeted to students, but was incredibly
    valuable. Now that I'm no longer a student, I'm always looking for ways to
    improve my own time management skills.
    
     
    
    As far as work life balance, I view school much like work. For students who
    have their priorities right, school is like work. Deadlines for papers,
    tests, and so forth are not unlike deadlines for reports in the work place.
    
     
    
    However, I've not seen a lot in the audio book arena that is specific to the
    needs of college students. There are many texts on Learning Ally that
    discuss how to be successful in college, and all have valuable information.
    
     
    
    The closest thing to a targeted book on BARD that I found was Organizing
    from the Inside Out for Teens. Other than that, I've not seen a lot of books
    out there.
    
     
    
    In the past, there was more of a gap between the visual paper planners and
    those offered in the blind community. Most of the specialty note takers have
    some kind of planner, but they're costly. Before the iPhone, you either
    needed to improvise some kind of portable planner or buy the only Braille
    planner I know of, one from the American Printing House for the Blind. Yet
    many of the books still seem to talk about visual planners, at least, when
    it comes to the paper type. I have gotten to use my iPhone as a planner, and
    I'm so pleased at the many reminder and calendar apps created for it.
    
     
    
    In the past, before the age of the iPhone, I wondered if there was a need
    for anything that would talk about time management from the perspective of a
    blind college student. Given the recent increase in mainstream audio
    programs, I'm wondering if there is such a need. If there is, the material
    could simply come in the form of a single article, blog post or podcast. If
    nothing, there could be discussions on how to use your smart phone as a
    planner, and what apps are good for that purpose.
    
     
    
    If nothing, is there still a need for articles, blog posts or podcasts
    discussing time management and work life balance from the perspective of a
    blind college student? If there is the need, what would the material look
    like? How much should be offered? If there isn't the need, what's already
    out there? What blog posts, articles or podcasts are out there for any
    blind/visually impaired college student? Is there the need for targeted
    content? If so, what would it look like? Any thoughts? Thanks.
    
    _______________________________________________
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From president.iabs at gmail.com  Sun May 12 01:52:12 2019
From: president.iabs at gmail.com (Kathryn Olsen)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 01:52:12 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!
In-Reply-To: <195BBCB0-78A6-4CA1-ACB7-CFA127C6A397@gmail.com>
References: <A2F84B7E-5140-48BF-B6C9-F28AB009B605@gmail.com>,
	<195BBCB0-78A6-4CA1-ACB7-CFA127C6A397@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR05MB319592AFC5FA32F31A61A420F60E0@DM5PR05MB3195.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Alexandra,

My name is Katy, and I am one of the coordinators for the NABS Mentorship Program this year. Mentees will be encouraged to be in communication with their mentor throughout convention and will be required to attend all NABS events. Additional rules and regulations will be sent out once the pairings have been made. The amount of time you spend with your mentor outside of the requirements will be up to you and your mentor.

Thank you for reaching out, and please feel free to contact me with any other questions. I hope that you will consider being involved in this program.

All the best,

Katy



Katy Olsen

President | Iowa Association of Blind Students
Vice President | National Federation of the Blind of Iowa
515.783.4522 | president.iabs at gmail.com

________________________________
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 4:01 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Alexandra Alfonso
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!

Hello. What are the requirements of a mentee at convention? Thank you.

> On May 11, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hey, friends!
>
> The 2019 NABS Mentorship Program Application is launching NOW! To apply to be a mentor or mentee: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSde7w76bUBb9PowhqQtLtma8baC-rMpydejQzO3tuh8D1pY0w/viewform?usp=sf_link
>
> See the info below before applying.
>
> Thank you for your eagerness to participate in the 2019 National Association of Blind Students Mentorship Program. Below, you will find more information about this program’s timeline and process.
>
> Prospective Mentors:
> • The application to become a mentor will remain open until June 11th.
> • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Katy Olsen to schedule a phone interview
> • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> • If selected to serve as a mentor for the 2019 NFB National Convention, you will be contacted by the coordinators, and assigned a mentee, no later than June 21st
> • You will be required to connect with your mentee no later than Wednesday, July 3rd
> • You will be required to attend the 2019 NFB National Convention in its entirety
> • Further rules and regulations will be communicated during the interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
>
> Prospective Mentees:
> • The application to become a mentee will remain ope until June 11th.
> • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Mausam Mehta to schedule an interview
> • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> • You will be assigned a mentor no later than June 21st
> • Further information will be communicated during the interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
>
> If you have any questionsat this time, please feel free to reach out to Katy Olsen or Mausam Mehta. We look forward to your involvement in this program.
>
> Katy Olsen, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program president.iabs at gmail.com 515-783-4522
> Mausam Mehta, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com 540-466-6033
>
> Cheers!
>
> Johna Wright
> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division
> Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From redwing731 at gmail.com  Sun May 12 02:03:02 2019
From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 19:03:02 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
In-Reply-To: <3F17E257-530B-4C3A-BFC9-A152EF1AC9FB@gmail.com>
References: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>
	<3F17E257-530B-4C3A-BFC9-A152EF1AC9FB@gmail.com>
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Hi all! 
As for the college world, particularly for blind students, I think there isn’t enough text out there that covers such things like longer time for tests and homework for example. I also don’t see any books that address burn out and how to get rid of it while in college. Just like the work place, burn out is an issue in college. I personally have experienced it first hand in math classes. Since math takes a blind student two or three times longer than the average sighted person, I think that it would be greatly benefitial to have books out there to address this barrier. I for one, would benefit greatly from books that address college burn out and how to reduce it. I would also benefit from knowing how to determain if it’s impossible to eliminate burn out, in my case, during math classes. Last term, I took college algebra which turned into a total nightmore! For one thing, I had new technology that I wasn’t fermiliar with using. For another thing, halfway through term, the rest of my required braille textbook didn’t arrive until a week before term ended. Since I’m on the trymester schedule, this alone, only made my experience with college algebra even worse. As though that wasn’t enough, even without the accessability related issues, it took me three times as much time to get through my homework, tests and quizzes, than it did with my sighted classmates. Ouch!!! I had my third round of math class burnout. Mind you, I had little control of preventing it, nor even for that matter, solving the problem, even though I tried. I can’t just solve the problem in the middle of a math class simply because I don’t have the time nor the energy to keep up with just the basic survival to survive the class. Even now, while I’m away from math classes, I’m trying to sort out how to reduce burn out and/or trying to discover if there is a way to reduce that problem. Just like NASA has to do when they solve problems which is to solve the ones that aren’t solveable during space flight; they have to solve them in between mitions. I have to do the same with addressing burn out. I have to solve it before I can take another math class. I have to also determain if I can even take another math class in the first place. I suspect that it might be physically impossible to take another math class without experiencing burn out. Because of this problem, I’m looking for information that addresses this kind of problem. So far, I have not found any good information except to reduce general burn out and general time management. I have not even found podcasts that address this kind of issue. As for time management texts themselves, the other difference for us blind readers is our technique to manage our time. For braille readers, we can’t just use a regular print planner except for what’s on our smart phones or braille note takers. Thank the gods for the callendar apps on iPhones! I use my callendar every day on my iPhone. I wouldn’t be able to keep track of my appointments that I have to make just to survive college, let alone, my non school life. I use it to stick my homework assignment due dates on it as well. The thing with college verses the work place is that college has a lot more homework in less you either work from home or work in a job that comes with a lot of homework. Usually, loyers, maybe journilsm and other writing jobs. Besides those kinds of jobs, most don’t come with nearly as much homework as college. Time management books don’t take that into account. I’ve also not seen a lot of time management or work/life balance books that include disabled college students or disabled workers. This is a gap because even though we still benefit from some of their ideas, we are still missing the time gap that we require that normal, non disabled people don’t have to touch with a ten foot cane. 


Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail! 
Blessed be!!! 
Kendra Schaber, 
 Chemeketa Community College, 
 350 Org, 
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,    
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,  
Capitol Chapter, 
Salem, Oregon. 
 Home email: 
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> On May 11, 2019, at 17:53, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I think that a lot of texts are suitable for both blind and sighted students. However, this could open up a very interesting discussion.
> I think that time management, in terms of making sure that materials are available for you, accounting for extra times on exams, etc, is where this topic differs for blind students.
> 
> On 5/11/19, 18:28, "NABS-L on behalf of Tina Hansen via NABS-L" <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>    My name is Tina Hansen, and while I'm not a student, I have a friend who is,
>    and I want to be aware of what's happening with students now.
> 
> 
> 
>    I have a food for thought question I'd like to put out there.
> 
> 
> 
>    I've been looking at the books and other materials on the general market
>    concerning time management and work life balance. I know this is a critical
>    concern of students, especially those juggling work, school and family.
> 
> 
> 
>    Many of the books have valuable information about how to organize your life
>    and time, whether you're a student or not. They don't discuss college, but
>    they do give valuable tips. I know that when I was last a student, I used a
>    book on time management that wasn't targeted to students, but was incredibly
>    valuable. Now that I'm no longer a student, I'm always looking for ways to
>    improve my own time management skills.
> 
> 
> 
>    As far as work life balance, I view school much like work. For students who
>    have their priorities right, school is like work. Deadlines for papers,
>    tests, and so forth are not unlike deadlines for reports in the work place.
> 
> 
> 
>    However, I've not seen a lot in the audio book arena that is specific to the
>    needs of college students. There are many texts on Learning Ally that
>    discuss how to be successful in college, and all have valuable information.
> 
> 
> 
>    The closest thing to a targeted book on BARD that I found was Organizing
>    from the Inside Out for Teens. Other than that, I've not seen a lot of books
>    out there.
> 
> 
> 
>    In the past, there was more of a gap between the visual paper planners and
>    those offered in the blind community. Most of the specialty note takers have
>    some kind of planner, but they're costly. Before the iPhone, you either
>    needed to improvise some kind of portable planner or buy the only Braille
>    planner I know of, one from the American Printing House for the Blind. Yet
>    many of the books still seem to talk about visual planners, at least, when
>    it comes to the paper type. I have gotten to use my iPhone as a planner, and
>    I'm so pleased at the many reminder and calendar apps created for it.
> 
> 
> 
>    In the past, before the age of the iPhone, I wondered if there was a need
>    for anything that would talk about time management from the perspective of a
>    blind college student. Given the recent increase in mainstream audio
>    programs, I'm wondering if there is such a need. If there is, the material
>    could simply come in the form of a single article, blog post or podcast. If
>    nothing, there could be discussions on how to use your smart phone as a
>    planner, and what apps are good for that purpose.
> 
> 
> 
>    If nothing, is there still a need for articles, blog posts or podcasts
>    discussing time management and work life balance from the perspective of a
>    blind college student? If there is the need, what would the material look
>    like? How much should be offered? If there isn't the need, what's already
>    out there? What blog posts, articles or podcasts are out there for any
>    blind/visually impaired college student? Is there the need for targeted
>    content? If so, what would it look like? Any thoughts? Thanks.
> 
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From mendezgabriel2000 at gmail.com  Sun May 12 02:05:18 2019
From: mendezgabriel2000 at gmail.com (Gabriel Mendez-Frances)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 21:05:18 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!
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I applied as a mentee. Thank you for this opportunity! I've been looking
forward to this convention since I heard about it back in March.

Look forward to seeing you all!

-- 

Sincerely,

Gabriel Mendez-Frances

Tarrant HS C/O 2019

205.569.9852

On Sat, May 11, 2019, 8:53 PM Kathryn Olsen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi Alexandra,
>
> My name is Katy, and I am one of the coordinators for the NABS Mentorship
> Program this year. Mentees will be encouraged to be in communication with
> their mentor throughout convention and will be required to attend all NABS
> events. Additional rules and regulations will be sent out once the pairings
> have been made. The amount of time you spend with your mentor outside of
> the requirements will be up to you and your mentor.
>
> Thank you for reaching out, and please feel free to contact me with any
> other questions. I hope that you will consider being involved in this
> program.
>
> All the best,
>
> Katy
>
>
>
> Katy Olsen
>
> President | Iowa Association of Blind Students
> Vice President | National Federation of the Blind of Iowa
> 515.783.4522 | president.iabs at gmail.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Alexandra Alfonso
> via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 4:01 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Cc: Alexandra Alfonso
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!
>
> Hello. What are the requirements of a mentee at convention? Thank you.
>
> > On May 11, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, friends!
> >
> > The 2019 NABS Mentorship Program Application is launching NOW! To apply
> to be a mentor or mentee:
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSde7w76bUBb9PowhqQtLtma8baC-rMpydejQzO3tuh8D1pY0w/viewform?usp=sf_link
> >
> > See the info below before applying.
> >
> > Thank you for your eagerness to participate in the 2019 National
> Association of Blind Students Mentorship Program. Below, you will find more
> information about this program’s timeline and process.
> >
> > Prospective Mentors:
> > • The application to become a mentor will remain open until June 11th.
> > • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Katy Olsen
> to schedule a phone interview
> > • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> > • If selected to serve as a mentor for the 2019 NFB National Convention,
> you will be contacted by the coordinators, and assigned a mentee, no later
> than June 21st
> > • You will be required to connect with your mentee no later than
> Wednesday, July 3rd
> > • You will be required to attend the 2019 NFB National Convention in its
> entirety
> > • Further rules and regulations will be communicated during the
> interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
> >
> > Prospective Mentees:
> > • The application to become a mentee will remain ope until June 11th.
> > • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Mausam
> Mehta to schedule an interview
> > • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> > • You will be assigned a mentor no later than June 21st
> > • Further information will be communicated during the interview and will
> be sent out once roles have been assigned
> >
> > If you have any questionsat this time, please feel free to reach out to
> Katy Olsen or Mausam Mehta. We look forward to your involvement in this
> program.
> >
> > Katy Olsen, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program
> president.iabs at gmail.com 515-783-4522
> > Mausam Mehta, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program
> Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com 540-466-6033
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Johna Wright
> > Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service
> Division
> > Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
> > _______________________________________________
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From president.iabs at gmail.com  Sun May 12 02:17:54 2019
From: president.iabs at gmail.com (Kathryn Olsen)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 02:17:54 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!
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Hi Gabriel,

I am so glad to hear that you applied and that you’re excited to attend convention. We are looking forward to meeting you! Mausam Mehta and I are the coordinators for this year’s NABS Mentorship Program. Mausam will be contacting you soon to set up a brief interview. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out.

All the best,

Katy

Katy Olsen

President | Iowa Association of Blind Students
Vice President | National Federation of the Blind of Iowa
515.783.4522 | president.iabs at gmail.com

________________________________
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Gabriel Mendez-Frances via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 9:06 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Gabriel Mendez-Frances
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!

I applied as a mentee. Thank you for this opportunity! I've been looking
forward to this convention since I heard about it back in March.

Look forward to seeing you all!

--

Sincerely,

Gabriel Mendez-Frances

Tarrant HS C/O 2019

205.569.9852

On Sat, May 11, 2019, 8:53 PM Kathryn Olsen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi Alexandra,
>
> My name is Katy, and I am one of the coordinators for the NABS Mentorship
> Program this year. Mentees will be encouraged to be in communication with
> their mentor throughout convention and will be required to attend all NABS
> events. Additional rules and regulations will be sent out once the pairings
> have been made. The amount of time you spend with your mentor outside of
> the requirements will be up to you and your mentor.
>
> Thank you for reaching out, and please feel free to contact me with any
> other questions. I hope that you will consider being involved in this
> program.
>
> All the best,
>
> Katy
>
>
>
> Katy Olsen
>
> President | Iowa Association of Blind Students
> Vice President | National Federation of the Blind of Iowa
> 515.783.4522 | president.iabs at gmail.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Alexandra Alfonso
> via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 4:01 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Cc: Alexandra Alfonso
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] NABS Mentorship Program Applications NOW OPEN!
>
> Hello. What are the requirements of a mentee at convention? Thank you.
>
> > On May 11, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Johna Wright via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, friends!
> >
> > The 2019 NABS Mentorship Program Application is launching NOW! To apply
> to be a mentor or mentee:
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSde7w76bUBb9PowhqQtLtma8baC-rMpydejQzO3tuh8D1pY0w/viewform?usp=sf_link
> >
> > See the info below before applying.
> >
> > Thank you for your eagerness to participate in the 2019 National
> Association of Blind Students Mentorship Program. Below, you will find more
> information about this program’s timeline and process.
> >
> > Prospective Mentors:
> > • The application to become a mentor will remain open until June 11th.
> > • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Katy Olsen
> to schedule a phone interview
> > • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> > • If selected to serve as a mentor for the 2019 NFB National Convention,
> you will be contacted by the coordinators, and assigned a mentee, no later
> than June 21st
> > • You will be required to connect with your mentee no later than
> Wednesday, July 3rd
> > • You will be required to attend the 2019 NFB National Convention in its
> entirety
> > • Further rules and regulations will be communicated during the
> interview and will be sent out once roles have been assigned
> >
> > Prospective Mentees:
> > • The application to become a mentee will remain ope until June 11th.
> > • Once you fill out the application, you will be contacted by Mausam
> Mehta to schedule an interview
> > • The interview will be brief, and should only take around 15 minutes
> > • You will be assigned a mentor no later than June 21st
> > • Further information will be communicated during the interview and will
> be sent out once roles have been assigned
> >
> > If you have any questionsat this time, please feel free to reach out to
> Katy Olsen or Mausam Mehta. We look forward to your involvement in this
> program.
> >
> > Katy Olsen, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program
> president.iabs at gmail.com 515-783-4522
> > Mausam Mehta, Coordinator, NABS Mentorship Program
> Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com 540-466-6033
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Johna Wright
> > Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service
> Division
> > Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
> > _______________________________________________
> > NABS-L mailing list
> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From th404 at comcast.net  Sun May 12 02:28:16 2019
From: th404 at comcast.net (Tina Hansen)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 19:28:16 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
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Kendra,

You and I have had vent fests about this issue, and that's what prompted me to get on this list to ask these questions.

Since we both have these concerns, I again ask what we can do about it. What would a time management tool kit look like for a blind/visually impaired college student? It is true that for many in the blind community, their smart phone has become the best tool for planning out their day, week or month. I'm thankful for the calendar apps on my iPhone.

So, let's  ask ourselves. What are the specific concerns you face as blind college students? Can this material be put together into a package that can be placed on the Student Division web site? Can we do a blog post, podcast, or article about this topic. If there is the need for a program or module like this, I'd like it to be made available in forms like this. I'm not sure if the student division is still doing conference calls. If they are, and they're archived, that can help. However, if not, could a podcast, blog post or article address these issues?

Also, Kendra, I think you've hit on another concern I've seen: lack of tech training. In an ideal world, I'd love to see a tech training center in every state, but that's not bound to happen. I believe that what you're looking for, if I've heard you right is for someone to give you step-by-step detailed tutorials on how to use various pieces of tech, much like what we see on the Apple Vis site. You also want to see these trainers give specific nonvisual directions so you can follow the steps in the sequence.

But back to time management and the issue of college burnout. Can we put something together to address this issue?

Thanks.



From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sun May 12 02:56:39 2019
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 22:56:39 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
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You can take a reduced course load in college and still get full time.  Nine hours can be full time for you.

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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind Students

Hi all! 
As for the college world, particularly for blind students, I think there isn’t enough text out there that covers such things like longer time for tests and homework for example. I also don’t see any books that address burn out and how to get rid of it while in college. Just like the work place, burn out is an issue in college. I personally have experienced it first hand in math classes. Since math takes a blind student two or three times longer than the average sighted person, I think that it would be greatly benefitial to have books out there to address this barrier. I for one, would benefit greatly from books that address college burn out and how to reduce it. I would also benefit from knowing how to determain if it’s impossible to eliminate burn out, in my case, during math classes. Last term, I took college algebra which turned into a total nightmore! For one thing, I had new technology that I wasn’t fermiliar with using. For another thing, halfway through term, the rest of my required braille textbook didn’t arrive until a week before term ended. Since I’m on the trymester schedule, this alone, only made my experience with college algebra even worse. As though that wasn’t enough, even without the accessability related issues, it took me three times as much time to get through my homework, tests and quizzes, than it did with my sighted classmates. Ouch!!! I had my third round of math class burnout. Mind you, I had little control of preventing it, nor even for that matter, solving the problem, even though I tried. I can’t just solve the problem in the middle of a math class simply because I don’t have the time nor the energy to keep up with just the basic survival to survive the class. Even now, while I’m away from math classes, I’m trying to sort out how to reduce burn out and/or trying to discover if there is a way to reduce that problem. Just like NASA has to do when they solve problems which is to solve the ones that aren’t solveable during space flight; they have to solve them in between mitions. I have to do the same with addressing burn out. I have to solve it before I can take another math class. I have to also determain if I can even take another math class in the first place. I suspect that it might be physically impossible to take another math class without experiencing burn out. Because of this problem, I’m looking for information that addresses this kind of problem. So far, I have not found any good information except to reduce general burn out and general time management. I have not even found podcasts that address this kind of issue. As for time management texts themselves, the other difference for us blind readers is our technique to manage our time. For braille readers, we can’t just use a regular print planner except for what’s on our smart phones or braille note takers. Thank the gods for the callendar apps on iPhones! I use my callendar every day on my iPhone. I wouldn’t be able to keep track of my appointments that I have to make just to survive college, let alone, my non school life. I use it to stick my homework assignment due dates on it as well. The thing with college verses the work place is that college has a lot more homework in less you either work from home or work in a job that comes with a lot of homework. Usually, loyers, maybe journilsm and other writing jobs. Besides those kinds of jobs, most don’t come with nearly as much homework as college. Time management books don’t take that into account. I’ve also not seen a lot of time management or work/life balance books that include disabled college students or disabled workers. This is a gap because even though we still benefit from some of their ideas, we are still missing the time gap that we require that normal, non disabled people don’t have to touch with a ten foot cane. 


Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail! 
Blessed be!!! 
Kendra Schaber,
 Chemeketa Community College,
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Citizen’s Climate Lobby,    
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon, Capitol Chapter, Salem, Oregon. 
 Home email: 
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> On May 11, 2019, at 17:53, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I think that a lot of texts are suitable for both blind and sighted students. However, this could open up a very interesting discussion.
> I think that time management, in terms of making sure that materials are available for you, accounting for extra times on exams, etc, is where this topic differs for blind students.
> 
> On 5/11/19, 18:28, "NABS-L on behalf of Tina Hansen via NABS-L" <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>    My name is Tina Hansen, and while I'm not a student, I have a friend who is,
>    and I want to be aware of what's happening with students now.
> 
> 
> 
>    I have a food for thought question I'd like to put out there.
> 
> 
> 
>    I've been looking at the books and other materials on the general market
>    concerning time management and work life balance. I know this is a critical
>    concern of students, especially those juggling work, school and family.
> 
> 
> 
>    Many of the books have valuable information about how to organize your life
>    and time, whether you're a student or not. They don't discuss college, but
>    they do give valuable tips. I know that when I was last a student, I used a
>    book on time management that wasn't targeted to students, but was incredibly
>    valuable. Now that I'm no longer a student, I'm always looking for ways to
>    improve my own time management skills.
> 
> 
> 
>    As far as work life balance, I view school much like work. For students who
>    have their priorities right, school is like work. Deadlines for papers,
>    tests, and so forth are not unlike deadlines for reports in the work place.
> 
> 
> 
>    However, I've not seen a lot in the audio book arena that is specific to the
>    needs of college students. There are many texts on Learning Ally that
>    discuss how to be successful in college, and all have valuable information.
> 
> 
> 
>    The closest thing to a targeted book on BARD that I found was Organizing
>    from the Inside Out for Teens. Other than that, I've not seen a lot of books
>    out there.
> 
> 
> 
>    In the past, there was more of a gap between the visual paper planners and
>    those offered in the blind community. Most of the specialty note takers have
>    some kind of planner, but they're costly. Before the iPhone, you either
>    needed to improvise some kind of portable planner or buy the only Braille
>    planner I know of, one from the American Printing House for the Blind. Yet
>    many of the books still seem to talk about visual planners, at least, when
>    it comes to the paper type. I have gotten to use my iPhone as a planner, and
>    I'm so pleased at the many reminder and calendar apps created for it.
> 
> 
> 
>    In the past, before the age of the iPhone, I wondered if there was a need
>    for anything that would talk about time management from the perspective of a
>    blind college student. Given the recent increase in mainstream audio
>    programs, I'm wondering if there is such a need. If there is, the material
>    could simply come in the form of a single article, blog post or podcast. If
>    nothing, there could be discussions on how to use your smart phone as a
>    planner, and what apps are good for that purpose.
> 
> 
> 
>    If nothing, is there still a need for articles, blog posts or podcasts
>    discussing time management and work life balance from the perspective of a
>    blind college student? If there is the need, what would the material look
>    like? How much should be offered? If there isn't the need, what's already
>    out there? What blog posts, articles or podcasts are out there for any
>    blind/visually impaired college student? Is there the need for targeted
>    content? If so, what would it look like? Any thoughts? Thanks.
> 
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sun May 12 03:02:33 2019
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 23:02:33 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
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	<000001d5086a$5b7a6080$126f2180$@comcast.net>
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I have several other methods I used.  We can find a way to get together on
the phone, and I can share them. 
I've got two master's degrees, so I've gone through the saw mill and the
salt minds.

Best Regards
 Justin

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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
Students

Kendra,

You and I have had vent fests about this issue, and that's what prompted me
to get on this list to ask these questions.

Since we both have these concerns, I again ask what we can do about it. What
would a time management tool kit look like for a blind/visually impaired
college student? It is true that for many in the blind community, their
smart phone has become the best tool for planning out their day, week or
month. I'm thankful for the calendar apps on my iPhone.

So, let's  ask ourselves. What are the specific concerns you face as blind
college students? Can this material be put together into a package that can
be placed on the Student Division web site? Can we do a blog post, podcast,
or article about this topic. If there is the need for a program or module
like this, I'd like it to be made available in forms like this. I'm not sure
if the student division is still doing conference calls. If they are, and
they're archived, that can help. However, if not, could a podcast, blog post
or article address these issues?

Also, Kendra, I think you've hit on another concern I've seen: lack of tech
training. In an ideal world, I'd love to see a tech training center in every
state, but that's not bound to happen. I believe that what you're looking
for, if I've heard you right is for someone to give you step-by-step
detailed tutorials on how to use various pieces of tech, much like what we
see on the Apple Vis site. You also want to see these trainers give specific
nonvisual directions so you can follow the steps in the sequence.

But back to time management and the issue of college burnout. Can we put
something together to address this issue?

Thanks.


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From th404 at comcast.net  Sun May 12 03:53:54 2019
From: th404 at comcast.net (Tina Hansen)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 20:53:54 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
In-Reply-To: <001201d5086f$259c9af0$70d5d0d0$@gmail.com>
References: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>	<3F17E257-530B-4C3A-BFC9-A152EF1AC9FB@gmail.com>	<01482CF1-699F-46E9-9E4B-0E8342C17FE0@gmail.com>	<000001d5086a$5b7a6080$126f2180$@comcast.net>
	<001201d5086f$259c9af0$70d5d0d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501d50876$5531fc40$ff95f4c0$@comcast.net>

I think if both of you can swap ideas, that's a good start. However, I'm
thinking beyond one student. What about other college students who are
either entering college just out of high school, or what if they may have
begun college before going blind?

Reading and absorbing content from a textbook will be somewhat different for
blind students, especially if you're relying on nonvisual access to content,
but that's for another post.

So, from my chair here, I see gaps that are not covered by most mainstream
time management books.

How can a blind/visually impaired college student cope with the course load?
How can the student work effectively, knowing that as a blind/visually
impaired student, you may need to absorb textbook information nonvisually?

If you're a blind student dealing with math and science, how can you work
with instructors and other resources to get the work done effectively? How
can you learn to use the technology you need? And how can you do this and
not avoid burnout?

Is it necessary to step back, redirect your course, or find ways ro reduce
the need for a heavy load of math courses, even if you can't drop them
completely?

Today, I've been researching this topic, and so far, the best podcast I've
found is the College Info Geek podcast.

This is also a full web site at

www.collegeinfogeek.com

I do think it's valuable, so please make note of it.

However, as I think about it, there are some concernes unique to blind
college students, and time management is just one of them. Let's keep
thinking about this, and hopefully, we can put something together to help
address this issue. Thanks.



From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Sun May 12 04:12:48 2019
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (Simon Bonenfant)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 00:12:48 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
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	<3F17E257-530B-4C3A-BFC9-A152EF1AC9FB@gmail.com>
	<01482CF1-699F-46E9-9E4B-0E8342C17FE0@gmail.com>
	<000001d5086a$5b7a6080$126f2180$@comcast.net>
	<001201d5086f$259c9af0$70d5d0d0$@gmail.com>
	<000501d50876$5531fc40$ff95f4c0$@comcast.net>
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Well this is a little unrelated, there was a book that I read a little bit of this year when I was at Penn state called College bound. It was especially for blind and visually impaired students, and it covered a lot of aspects of college life for a blindness perspective. There might be something on time management there. Even if nothing is in there about time management, there is a lot of other good tip so I would recommend people read that book in general.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Tina Hansen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I think if both of you can swap ideas, that's a good start. However, I'm
> thinking beyond one student. What about other college students who are
> either entering college just out of high school, or what if they may have
> begun college before going blind?
> 
> Reading and absorbing content from a textbook will be somewhat different for
> blind students, especially if you're relying on nonvisual access to content,
> but that's for another post.
> 
> So, from my chair here, I see gaps that are not covered by most mainstream
> time management books.
> 
> How can a blind/visually impaired college student cope with the course load?
> How can the student work effectively, knowing that as a blind/visually
> impaired student, you may need to absorb textbook information nonvisually?
> 
> If you're a blind student dealing with math and science, how can you work
> with instructors and other resources to get the work done effectively? How
> can you learn to use the technology you need? And how can you do this and
> not avoid burnout?
> 
> Is it necessary to step back, redirect your course, or find ways ro reduce
> the need for a heavy load of math courses, even if you can't drop them
> completely?
> 
> Today, I've been researching this topic, and so far, the best podcast I've
> found is the College Info Geek podcast.
> 
> This is also a full web site at
> 
> www.collegeinfogeek.com
> 
> I do think it's valuable, so please make note of it.
> 
> However, as I think about it, there are some concernes unique to blind
> college students, and time management is just one of them. Let's keep
> thinking about this, and hopefully, we can put something together to help
> address this issue. Thanks.
> 
> 
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From hstaley at nfbtx.org  Sun May 12 05:53:11 2019
From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 00:53:11 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
In-Reply-To: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>
References: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7430A8A2-951B-4764-897E-9F71C221567E@nfbtx.org>

Thomas frank has a great YouTube channel that I subscribe to that has many great tips for student on Time management.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On May 11, 2019, at 17:28, Tina Hansen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> My name is Tina Hansen, and while I'm not a student, I have a friend who is,
> and I want to be aware of what's happening with students now.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a food for thought question I'd like to put out there.
> 
> 
> 
> I've been looking at the books and other materials on the general market
> concerning time management and work life balance. I know this is a critical
> concern of students, especially those juggling work, school and family.
> 
> 
> 
> Many of the books have valuable information about how to organize your life
> and time, whether you're a student or not. They don't discuss college, but
> they do give valuable tips. I know that when I was last a student, I used a
> book on time management that wasn't targeted to students, but was incredibly
> valuable. Now that I'm no longer a student, I'm always looking for ways to
> improve my own time management skills.
> 
> 
> 
> As far as work life balance, I view school much like work. For students who
> have their priorities right, school is like work. Deadlines for papers,
> tests, and so forth are not unlike deadlines for reports in the work place.
> 
> 
> 
> However, I've not seen a lot in the audio book arena that is specific to the
> needs of college students. There are many texts on Learning Ally that
> discuss how to be successful in college, and all have valuable information.
> 
> 
> 
> The closest thing to a targeted book on BARD that I found was Organizing
> from the Inside Out for Teens. Other than that, I've not seen a lot of books
> out there.
> 
> 
> 
> In the past, there was more of a gap between the visual paper planners and
> those offered in the blind community. Most of the specialty note takers have
> some kind of planner, but they're costly. Before the iPhone, you either
> needed to improvise some kind of portable planner or buy the only Braille
> planner I know of, one from the American Printing House for the Blind. Yet
> many of the books still seem to talk about visual planners, at least, when
> it comes to the paper type. I have gotten to use my iPhone as a planner, and
> I'm so pleased at the many reminder and calendar apps created for it.
> 
> 
> 
> In the past, before the age of the iPhone, I wondered if there was a need
> for anything that would talk about time management from the perspective of a
> blind college student. Given the recent increase in mainstream audio
> programs, I'm wondering if there is such a need. If there is, the material
> could simply come in the form of a single article, blog post or podcast. If
> nothing, there could be discussions on how to use your smart phone as a
> planner, and what apps are good for that purpose.
> 
> 
> 
> If nothing, is there still a need for articles, blog posts or podcasts
> discussing time management and work life balance from the perspective of a
> blind college student? If there is the need, what would the material look
> like? How much should be offered? If there isn't the need, what's already
> out there? What blog posts, articles or podcasts are out there for any
> blind/visually impaired college student? Is there the need for targeted
> content? If so, what would it look like? Any thoughts? Thanks.
> 
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From th404 at comcast.net  Sun May 12 06:11:53 2019
From: th404 at comcast.net (Tina Hansen)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 23:11:53 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Materials for Blind
 Students
In-Reply-To: <7430A8A2-951B-4764-897E-9F71C221567E@nfbtx.org>
References: <000001d50848$ec401d70$c4c05850$@comcast.net>
	<7430A8A2-951B-4764-897E-9F71C221567E@nfbtx.org>
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That's the one I've been referring to. The College Info Geek site has logs,
videos and podcasts. Also, based on what I've seen, the You Tube videos are
pretty followable without the visuals. Thanks.



From dandrews at visi.com  Mon May 13 02:51:43 2019
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 21:51:43 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Convention Roommate
Message-ID: <auto-000123274349@mailfront1.g2host.com>


>Plealse respond to him directly, as he may not be on this list.


Dave



>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I am looking for a roommate for the national convention in Las Vegas 
>this summer.  I have made a reservation for 2 people, and I will be 
>coming into Las Vegas on July 6.  Please write me off list at 
><mailto:markspark at roadrunner.com>markspark at roadrunner.com or 
><mailto:m.tardif at roadrunner.com>m.tardif at roadrunner.com.  Thank you 
>in advance, see you in Vegas.
>Mark Tardif
>Nuclear arms will not hold you.


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From dandrews at visi.com  Tue May 14 01:20:46 2019
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 20:20:46 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Please post to the appropriate lists
Message-ID: <auto-000122414504@mailfront2.g2host.com>


>
>Hi.
>
>Does anyone know of a similar program that works better with JAWS 
>than Media Monkey does?  Please contact me off list.  Thanks.
>
>Joy Breslauer, First Vice President
>National Federation of the Blind of Montana
>Personal Email:  breslauerj at gmail.com
>Web Site: <http://www.nfbofmt.org/>http://www.nfbofmt.org
>
>Live the life you want
>
>The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
>friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. 
>Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
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From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com  Tue May 14 03:25:26 2019
From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 23:25:26 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Last Minute Roommate for Vegas
Message-ID: <0064964F-A032-44A1-9AA4-56A4537443BA@gmail.com>

Hello, peeps!

I hope everyone is having a great finals week - and if you've already taken them, I hope they all went very well.
I am writing to ask if there are any girls still looking for a roommate for national convention? My 2 roommates are seeking a new roommate, as we just lost one. Forwarning, there is a boy in our room, and if that will be an issue, please let me know. Other than that, there will be 2 girls in the room also, so if you don't feel comfortable sleeping with the boy, I will gladly take one for the team.

For anyone who is interested, please feel free to contact me via the contact info provided at the end of this email. Thank you!

Best,
Bri

Brianna Rigsbee
Vice President | Connecticut Association of Blind Students
http://www.nfbct.org/ct-chapters/connecticut-association-of-blind-students
bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com
(203) 751-0199
"You can't fly unless you let yourself fall."
"You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back."

From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Tue May 14 15:42:32 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:42:32 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Last Minute Roommate for Vegas
In-Reply-To: <0064964F-A032-44A1-9AA4-56A4537443BA@gmail.com>
References: <0064964F-A032-44A1-9AA4-56A4537443BA@gmail.com>
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Just for the record, I love the quote at the end of your email signature. __ Best of luck with the roommate situation.

On 5/13/19, 23:26, "NABS-L on behalf of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L" <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

    Hello, peeps!
    
    I hope everyone is having a great finals week - and if you've already taken them, I hope they all went very well.
    I am writing to ask if there are any girls still looking for a roommate for national convention? My 2 roommates are seeking a new roommate, as we just lost one. Forwarning, there is a boy in our room, and if that will be an issue, please let me know. Other than that, there will be 2 girls in the room also, so if you don't feel comfortable sleeping with the boy, I will gladly take one for the team.
    
    For anyone who is interested, please feel free to contact me via the contact info provided at the end of this email. Thank you!
    
    Best,
    Bri
    
    Brianna Rigsbee
    Vice President | Connecticut Association of Blind Students
    http://www.nfbct.org/ct-chapters/connecticut-association-of-blind-students
    bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com
    (203) 751-0199
    "You can't fly unless you let yourself fall."
    "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back."
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From louvins at gmail.com  Tue May 14 16:26:15 2019
From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:26:15 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Last Minute Roommate for Vegas
In-Reply-To: <5CA4DCA7-5AB8-446B-BD7D-2C8DDA5C5EEA@gmail.com>
References: <0064964F-A032-44A1-9AA4-56A4537443BA@gmail.com>
	<5CA4DCA7-5AB8-446B-BD7D-2C8DDA5C5EEA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADUoy9sVSLvUGN6oWyArPz9FVXmtoFApyCwhzGhCN-ZAd-Xtmw@mail.gmail.com>

Hope you find another roomate.

On 5/14/19, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Just for the record, I love the quote at the end of your email signature. __
> Best of luck with the roommate situation.
>
> On 5/13/19, 23:26, "NABS-L on behalf of Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L"
> <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>     Hello, peeps!
>
>     I hope everyone is having a great finals week - and if you've already
> taken them, I hope they all went very well.
>     I am writing to ask if there are any girls still looking for a roommate
> for national convention? My 2 roommates are seeking a new roommate, as we
> just lost one. Forwarning, there is a boy in our room, and if that will be
> an issue, please let me know. Other than that, there will be 2 girls in the
> room also, so if you don't feel comfortable sleeping with the boy, I will
> gladly take one for the team.
>
>     For anyone who is interested, please feel free to contact me via the
> contact info provided at the end of this email. Thank you!
>
>     Best,
>     Bri
>
>     Brianna Rigsbee
>     Vice President | Connecticut Association of Blind Students
>
> http://www.nfbct.org/ct-chapters/connecticut-association-of-blind-students
>     bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com
>     (203) 751-0199
>     "You can't fly unless you let yourself fall."
>     "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back."
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Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson


From Amelia.Dickerson at Colorado.EDU  Tue May 14 16:40:33 2019
From: Amelia.Dickerson at Colorado.EDU (Amelia Anne Dickerson)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 16:40:33 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Research on Chosen Areas of Study
Message-ID: <DM5PR03MB253894D10A54C4B702E9D986F4080@DM5PR03MB2538.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

I work in the Digital Accessibility Office<https://www.colorado.edu/accessible-technology/> at the University of Colorado Boulder. As we partner with faculty to make the content of their classes more accessible, we want to know more about the areas blind and low vision students choose to study, and the kind of challenges they face. Below, I'm including the link to a brief survey. This is an informal collection of information that we will only use internally-it will not be published anywhere- and you do not need to give any personal information. Feel free to contact me with any questions, and I appreciate your time and energy in responding to this survey.
What Blind Students Choose to Study<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScRE96kwPHAwI9mCpo1EyW8K23ld4NwIPQ6amfkGbvEgi9B1w/viewform?usp=sf_link>

Amelia Dickerson
Digital Accessibility Cultivator
Accessibility and Usability Lab
Amelia.dickerson at colorado.edu


From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Wed May 15 00:17:42 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder )
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:17:42 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?b?Rlc6IFBsZWFzZSBmaWxsIG91dCDigJxTdXJ2ZXkg4oCd?=
In-Reply-To: <5cdb5900.1c69fb81.e4d5e.1a79@mx.google.com>
References: <5cdb5900.1c69fb81.e4d5e.1a79@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <5cdb5aa6.1c69fb81.8651f.1ba3@mx.google.com>

Bellow is a website survey you may fill out. This will help me a lot. Thank so much for your time. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Selvin Linder 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:10 PM
To: jeanine.shabazzcenter at gmail.com; Selvin Linder
Subject: Please fill out “Survey ”

Here's the link to the form "Survey ": https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=KYsdHJeKp0SimaUNsJFfjVMJxhM68O9NsTrrQWz09PZUM0VFVlRZRlgzNUxFN1NTTjdKRk9JVVVLVS4u ---------------------------------------- Microsoft Forms Create your own forms at forms.office.com
Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Wed May 15 00:42:24 2019
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 17:42:24 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] 
 =?utf-8?b?Rlc6IFBsZWFzZSBmaWxsIG91dCDigJxTdXJ2ZXkg4oCd?=
In-Reply-To: <5cdb5aa6.1c69fb81.8651f.1ba3@mx.google.com>
References: <5cdb5900.1c69fb81.e4d5e.1a79@mx.google.com>
	<5cdb5aa6.1c69fb81.8651f.1ba3@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <89488B61-2BC4-404C-BC8C-4CCF0AA8A32A@gmail.com>

Hi Selvin,
Can you give us some more details about what this survey is about?  With all the spam links that come through into emails, the more information we have, the better.
Thanks,

Vejas

> On 14 May 2019, at 17:17, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bellow is a website survey you may fill out. This will help me a lot. Thank so much for your time. 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Selvin Linder 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:10 PM
> To: jeanine.shabazzcenter at gmail.com; Selvin Linder
> Subject: Please fill out “Survey ”
> 
> Here's the link to the form "Survey ": https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=KYsdHJeKp0SimaUNsJFfjVMJxhM68O9NsTrrQWz09PZUM0VFVlRZRlgzNUxFN1NTTjdKRk9JVVVLVS4u ---------------------------------------- Microsoft Forms Create your own forms at forms.office.com
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> 
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Wed May 15 00:54:00 2019
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:54:00 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] 
 =?utf-8?b?Rlc6IFBsZWFzZSBmaWxsIG91dCDigJxTdXJ2ZXkg4oCd?=
In-Reply-To: <5cdb5aa6.1c69fb81.8651f.1ba3@mx.google.com>
References: <5cdb5900.1c69fb81.e4d5e.1a79@mx.google.com>
	<5cdb5aa6.1c69fb81.8651f.1ba3@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <6da14821-6af5-c7ad-6031-b8ffda91f2c7@tysdomain.com>

Hello:

If you're going to request that we fill out a survey, please do tell us 
what it's for. Also, making sure that your forwarded email is 
grammatically correct as well as the text of the survey would be 
tremendous. For example, two/to/too. Finally, not everyone looks at or 
uses your site. Asking a list of people who probably aren't subscribed 
to your site to fill out a survey on it seems like you're missing your 
demographic just a bit, and you might get better results by sending this 
link to the people who actually do receive emails related to your site. 
It's important to realize that not everyone here has a lot of time, and 
traction is very tough to gain; this means that telling us about your 
site is probably fine, but eventually it's going to become one of those 
things that everyone just deletes and moves on, so you have to walk the 
line between being useful and providing useful information, and 
irritating people to the point where they just delete your requests and 
updates without any thought. A website takes time, work and effort, 
which I'm sure you've seen. Part of this is presentation (see above re: 
grammar and spelling), and part of it is providing a clean, useful and 
well-maintained site.





From aimeibee at gmail.com  Wed May 15 03:17:39 2019
From: aimeibee at gmail.com (Amy Bishop)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:17:39 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
Message-ID: <CAOZfzJ7A+aOkFvpxB82ReCzUWAcBoeB6edsDQnoJ0aJ7KGKUxw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi My name is Amy bishop.  hope every one is doing well. I am going to take
a college Chinese class. And so far I have not found a screen reader that
will work with it. I tried NVDA and Jaws. I know Chinese braille also. What
I would very love is a screen reader that will allow me to input and output
Chinese. If any one know that there is such thing please help me. Thank you
all so much!!

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Wed May 15 12:04:18 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 08:04:18 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] 
 =?utf-8?b?Rlc6IFBsZWFzZSBmaWxsIG91dCDigJxTdXJ2ZXkg4oCd?=
In-Reply-To: <6da14821-6af5-c7ad-6031-b8ffda91f2c7@tysdomain.com>
References: <5cdb5900.1c69fb81.e4d5e.1a79@mx.google.com>
	<5cdb5aa6.1c69fb81.8651f.1ba3@mx.google.com>
	<6da14821-6af5-c7ad-6031-b8ffda91f2c7@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vFhaQHFZzFROGkD4boEOxiioJAN5DwivysQJvS5fx4=Kg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the tip!

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:54 PM Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com>
wrote:

> Hello:
>
> If you're going to request that we fill out a survey, please do tell us
> what it's for. Also, making sure that your forwarded email is
> grammatically correct as well as the text of the survey would be
> tremendous. For example, two/to/too. Finally, not everyone looks at or
> uses your site. Asking a list of people who probably aren't subscribed
> to your site to fill out a survey on it seems like you're missing your
> demographic just a bit, and you might get better results by sending this
> link to the people who actually do receive emails related to your site.
> It's important to realize that not everyone here has a lot of time, and
> traction is very tough to gain; this means that telling us about your
> site is probably fine, but eventually it's going to become one of those
> things that everyone just deletes and moves on, so you have to walk the
> line between being useful and providing useful information, and
> irritating people to the point where they just delete your requests and
> updates without any thought. A website takes time, work and effort,
> which I'm sure you've seen. Part of this is presentation (see above re:
> grammar and spelling), and part of it is providing a clean, useful and
> well-maintained site.
>
>
>
>

-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From cassandradamstra at gmail.com  Wed May 15 17:40:24 2019
From: cassandradamstra at gmail.com (Cassandra Damstra)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:40:24 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
In-Reply-To: <CAOZfzJ7A+aOkFvpxB82ReCzUWAcBoeB6edsDQnoJ0aJ7KGKUxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZfzJ7A+aOkFvpxB82ReCzUWAcBoeB6edsDQnoJ0aJ7KGKUxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAGWLMa5x0GvREZebunx8Zp-HLNw3vw_twq9QrL8+xM6a1gXGA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amy,

I study Japanese and NVDA has a Japanese edition. I could not find the same
in Chinese. I did however, find this:
https://archive.kanhan.com/en/products-services/products/chinese-jaws-windows.html
 Maybe this could help you? Are you using Mandarin or Cantonese? I will see
what else I can find.

Sincerely,
Cassandra Damstra

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 23:19, Amy Bishop via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi My name is Amy bishop.  hope every one is doing well. I am going to take
> a college Chinese class. And so far I have not found a screen reader that
> will work with it. I tried NVDA and Jaws. I know Chinese braille also. What
> I would very love is a screen reader that will allow me to input and output
> Chinese. If any one know that there is such thing please help me. Thank you
> all so much!!
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
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>

From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Wed May 15 19:44:02 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:44:02 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Southeastern Seminar Registration Now Open!
Message-ID: <6F77F29F-8C2C-4576-A30A-85A37CCD79D1@gmail.com>

 

Hey Nabsters!

 We are so excited to announce that registration for Southeastern Seminar is now open!

 This will be a weekend filled with information, education, and fun for all students. We can’t wait to see you all in Virginia this August!

 Below is the link to register. Please complete the entire form. More information, including payment details to reserve your spot, will be made available shortly, so please continue checking your email.

 

 event Information

What: Southeastern Seminar

Where: The Westin Crystal City: 1800 Jefferson Davis Highway, Arlington, Virginia (22202)

When: August 16-18 2019

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNNgaOlJrOfR7ubUXte95TF8TLX7GnA7vDEanIkd_3WwdVEw/viewform

 Feel free to email Mausam Mehta mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com or Kathryn Webster nabs.president at gmail.com with any questions you may have.

Best,

Nina Marranca | Southeastern Seminar Planning Committee

 

 

 


From aimeibee at gmail.com  Wed May 15 21:01:07 2019
From: aimeibee at gmail.com (aimeibee at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 17:01:07 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
In-Reply-To: <CAAGWLMa5x0GvREZebunx8Zp-HLNw3vw_twq9QrL8+xM6a1gXGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZfzJ7A+aOkFvpxB82ReCzUWAcBoeB6edsDQnoJ0aJ7KGKUxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAGWLMa5x0GvREZebunx8Zp-HLNw3vw_twq9QrL8+xM6a1gXGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d50b61$51acccb0$f5066610$@gmail.com>

Hello Cassandra, 
I am going to study Mandarin. I am using a focus 40 and NVDA and also Jaws .
I can get NVDA to show me the Chinese braille but I cannot use my focus 40
to input braille. Thank you very much fore the Chinese Jaws link, I actually
saw it when I did my research. I am just trying to safe some money.  As you
know blindness  Technology is very expensive. 
Thank you very much!!
Amy 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cassandra Damstra via
NABS-L
Sent: 2019年5月15日 13:40
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Cassandra Damstra <cassandradamstra at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing

Hello Amy,

I study Japanese and NVDA has a Japanese edition. I could not find the same
in Chinese. I did however, find this:
https://archive.kanhan.com/en/products-services/products/chinese-jaws-window
s.html
 Maybe this could help you? Are you using Mandarin or Cantonese? I will see
what else I can find.

Sincerely,
Cassandra Damstra

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 23:19, Amy Bishop via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi My name is Amy bishop.  hope every one is doing well. I am going to 
> take a college Chinese class. And so far I have not found a screen 
> reader that will work with it. I tried NVDA and Jaws. I know Chinese 
> braille also. What I would very love is a screen reader that will 
> allow me to input and output Chinese. If any one know that there is 
> such thing please help me. Thank you all so much!!
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From sarah at sarahblakelarose.com  Wed May 15 21:15:56 2019
From: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com (sarah at sarahblakelarose.com)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 17:15:56 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
In-Reply-To: <000c01d50b61$51acccb0$f5066610$@gmail.com>
References: <CAOZfzJ7A+aOkFvpxB82ReCzUWAcBoeB6edsDQnoJ0aJ7KGKUxw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAAGWLMa5x0GvREZebunx8Zp-HLNw3vw_twq9QrL8+xM6a1gXGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d50b61$51acccb0$f5066610$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009901d50b63$635fd3b0$2a1f7b10$@sarahblakelarose.com>

Hi, Amy.
In order to input braille characters from another language, back translation has to be supported from that language in LibLouis. If you are using JAWS with NVDA, I suggest installing a Mandarin keyboard on your computer and typing on your PC.


Rev. Sarah Blake LaRose
http://www.sarahblakelarose.com
Accessible instruction in Biblical languages

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of aimeibee--- via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:01 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: aimeibee at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing

Hello Cassandra,
I am going to study Mandarin. I am using a focus 40 and NVDA and also Jaws .
I can get NVDA to show me the Chinese braille but I cannot use my focus 40 to input braille. Thank you very much fore the Chinese Jaws link, I actually saw it when I did my research. I am just trying to safe some money.  As you know blindness  Technology is very expensive. 
Thank you very much!!
Amy 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cassandra Damstra via NABS-L
Sent: 2019年5月15日 13:40
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Cassandra Damstra <cassandradamstra at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing

Hello Amy,

I study Japanese and NVDA has a Japanese edition. I could not find the same in Chinese. I did however, find this:
https://archive.kanhan.com/en/products-services/products/chinese-jaws-window
s.html
 Maybe this could help you? Are you using Mandarin or Cantonese? I will see what else I can find.

Sincerely,
Cassandra Damstra

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 23:19, Amy Bishop via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi My name is Amy bishop.  hope every one is doing well. I am going to 
> take a college Chinese class. And so far I have not found a screen 
> reader that will work with it. I tried NVDA and Jaws. I know Chinese 
> braille also. What I would very love is a screen reader that will 
> allow me to input and output Chinese. If any one know that there is 
> such thing please help me. Thank you all so much!!
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From aimeibee at gmail.com  Wed May 15 21:18:58 2019
From: aimeibee at gmail.com (aimeibee at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 17:18:58 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
In-Reply-To: <009901d50b63$635fd3b0$2a1f7b10$@sarahblakelarose.com>
References: <CAOZfzJ7A+aOkFvpxB82ReCzUWAcBoeB6edsDQnoJ0aJ7KGKUxw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAAGWLMa5x0GvREZebunx8Zp-HLNw3vw_twq9QrL8+xM6a1gXGA@mail.gmail.com>	<000c01d50b61$51acccb0$f5066610$@gmail.com>
	<009901d50b63$635fd3b0$2a1f7b10$@sarahblakelarose.com>
Message-ID: <000d01d50b63$cf9453d0$6ebcfb70$@gmail.com>

Hello, Rev, 
Yes I did install the Chinese keyboard. The thing is that there is a lot of characters sounds the same in Chinese but it has different meanings. and I can't use NVDA or Jaws to pic the different characters.
Thank you very much Amy 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sarah via NABS-L
Sent: 2019年5月15日 17:16
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing

Hi, Amy.
In order to input braille characters from another language, back translation has to be supported from that language in LibLouis. If you are using JAWS with NVDA, I suggest installing a Mandarin keyboard on your computer and typing on your PC.


Rev. Sarah Blake LaRose
http://www.sarahblakelarose.com
Accessible instruction in Biblical languages

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of aimeibee--- via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:01 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: aimeibee at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing

Hello Cassandra,
I am going to study Mandarin. I am using a focus 40 and NVDA and also Jaws .
I can get NVDA to show me the Chinese braille but I cannot use my focus 40 to input braille. Thank you very much fore the Chinese Jaws link, I actually saw it when I did my research. I am just trying to safe some money.  As you know blindness  Technology is very expensive. 
Thank you very much!!
Amy 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cassandra Damstra via NABS-L
Sent: 2019年5月15日 13:40
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Cassandra Damstra <cassandradamstra at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing

Hello Amy,

I study Japanese and NVDA has a Japanese edition. I could not find the same in Chinese. I did however, find this:
https://archive.kanhan.com/en/products-services/products/chinese-jaws-window
s.html
 Maybe this could help you? Are you using Mandarin or Cantonese? I will see what else I can find.

Sincerely,
Cassandra Damstra

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 23:19, Amy Bishop via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi My name is Amy bishop.  hope every one is doing well. I am going to 
> take a college Chinese class. And so far I have not found a screen 
> reader that will work with it. I tried NVDA and Jaws. I know Chinese 
> braille also. What I would very love is a screen reader that will 
> allow me to input and output Chinese. If any one know that there is 
> such thing please help me. Thank you all so much!!
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From gallagher123123 at gmail.com  Wed May 15 21:54:41 2019
From: gallagher123123 at gmail.com (Cullen Gallagher)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 17:54:41 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Southeastern Seminar Registration Now Open!
In-Reply-To: <6F77F29F-8C2C-4576-A30A-85A37CCD79D1@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2E8C83E7-8AF4-4CCF-B825-4C201F13B048@gmail.com>

Hi,
This sounds awesome! Any idea as to what the room rate will be? Trying to figure out if I can come.
Thanks,
Cullen

Sent from my iPad

> On May 15, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Nabsters!
> 
> We are so excited to announce that registration for Southeastern Seminar is now open!
> 
> This will be a weekend filled with information, education, and fun for all students. We can’t wait to see you all in Virginia this August!
> 
> Below is the link to register. Please complete the entire form. More information, including payment details to reserve your spot, will be made available shortly, so please continue checking your email.
> 
> 
> 
> event Information
> 
> What: Southeastern Seminar
> 
> Where: The Westin Crystal City: 1800 Jefferson Davis Highway, Arlington, Virginia (22202)
> 
> When: August 16-18 2019
> 
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNNgaOlJrOfR7ubUXte95TF8TLX7GnA7vDEanIkd_3WwdVEw/viewform
> 
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From dandrews at visi.com  Wed May 15 23:46:42 2019
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 18:46:42 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Seeking Online ESL Teachers who use Assistive
 Technology
Message-ID: <auto-000122517821@mailfront2.g2host.com>

This woman is looking for information -- please reply to her directly 
as she is not on this list.

Dave





>From: "Corbett, Katherine M." <watsonkm05 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Seeking Online ESL Teachers who use Assistive Technology
>To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>
>Hi Dave,
>
>I'm interested in teaching English as a Second Language online. I've
>applied with a few companies and they wanted to move forward in the
>process. Unfortunately, their teaching platforms were not compatible
>with screen-reading software. (I use JAWS and NVDA.) Do you know of
>anyone who uses assistive technology and currently teaches ESL online?
>(I know that Skype and Zoom are both platforms compatible with JAWS
>and NVDA, so if anyone is aware of a school that uses those, that
>would be excellent.)
>
>Please email me back at watsonkm05 at gmail.com.
>
>Thank you for your time and assistance. I appreciate any advice and/or
>suggestions you can provide.
>
>Warmly,
>
>--Katie


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From abbydnh at icloud.com  Thu May 16 01:11:19 2019
From: abbydnh at icloud.com (Abby Duffy)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 21:11:19 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Video creating software
Message-ID: <F529E6D5-B595-449B-89CD-A7877A9F4699@icloud.com>

Hello, does anybody know of an accessible for jaws or ios  video making software. iMovie works but doesn’t really make the Quality of videos that the assignment is asking for. The rest of my school is using   we video, if anyone knows what that is. If anyone has any suggestions for video making software is, I’d be grateful.
Thanks   
Abby Duffy


From truewise.8614 at gmail.com  Thu May 16 03:06:45 2019
From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 20:06:45 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
In-Reply-To: <000d01d50b63$cf9453d0$6ebcfb70$@gmail.com>
References: <CAOZfzJ7A+aOkFvpxB82ReCzUWAcBoeB6edsDQnoJ0aJ7KGKUxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAGWLMa5x0GvREZebunx8Zp-HLNw3vw_twq9QrL8+xM6a1gXGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01d50b61$51acccb0$f5066610$@gmail.com>
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	<000d01d50b63$cf9453d0$6ebcfb70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOrr3bMSVNkba_SgqPtrFtkNxw1mc757W3HHyRr3B-C-RqcJuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Amy,

I use JAWS and Voice Over to do things in English and Thai. For JAWS,
I had to download the Thai voice from Vocalizer. Last time I checked,
the latest edition of Vocalizer did have a Mandarin voice along with
other Chinese voices.

Vanna

On 5/15/19, aimeibee--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello, Rev,
> Yes I did install the Chinese keyboard. The thing is that there is a lot of
> characters sounds the same in Chinese but it has different meanings. and I
> can't use NVDA or Jaws to pic the different characters.
> Thank you very much Amy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sarah via NABS-L
> Sent: 2019年5月15日 17:16
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
>
> Hi, Amy.
> In order to input braille characters from another language, back translation
> has to be supported from that language in LibLouis. If you are using JAWS
> with NVDA, I suggest installing a Mandarin keyboard on your computer and
> typing on your PC.
>
>
> Rev. Sarah Blake LaRose
> http://www.sarahblakelarose.com
> Accessible instruction in Biblical languages
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of aimeibee--- via NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:01 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: aimeibee at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
>
> Hello Cassandra,
> I am going to study Mandarin. I am using a focus 40 and NVDA and also Jaws .
> I can get NVDA to show me the Chinese braille but I cannot use my focus 40
> to input braille. Thank you very much fore the Chinese Jaws link, I actually
> saw it when I did my research. I am just trying to safe some money.  As you
> know blindness  Technology is very expensive.
> Thank you very much!!
> Amy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cassandra Damstra via
> NABS-L
> Sent: 2019年5月15日 13:40
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Cassandra Damstra <cassandradamstra at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Chinese braille typing
>
> Hello Amy,
>
> I study Japanese and NVDA has a Japanese edition. I could not find the same
> in Chinese. I did however, find this:
> https://archive.kanhan.com/en/products-services/products/chinese-jaws-window
> s.html
>  Maybe this could help you? Are you using Mandarin or Cantonese? I will see
> what else I can find.
>
> Sincerely,
> Cassandra Damstra
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 23:19, Amy Bishop via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi My name is Amy bishop.  hope every one is doing well. I am going to
>> take a college Chinese class. And so far I have not found a screen
>> reader that will work with it. I tried NVDA and Jaws. I know Chinese
>> braille also. What I would very love is a screen reader that will
>> allow me to input and output Chinese. If any one know that there is
>> such thing please help me. Thank you all so much!!
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Thu May 16 14:26:22 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 10:26:22 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Job seekers
Message-ID: <CACud-vFftV5EcxLbVyziHvOHrwysJtFuKH08jyvZ=9_fR48THw@mail.gmail.com>

Greeting:
I was wondering if someone is looking for a job like I am? I need some
assistance about how to interview. I was very nervous on my first one.
I think I got discriminated on the walmart job that I applied for.

-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Thu May 16 17:16:57 2019
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 10:16:57 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Job seekers
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vFftV5EcxLbVyziHvOHrwysJtFuKH08jyvZ=9_fR48THw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vFftV5EcxLbVyziHvOHrwysJtFuKH08jyvZ=9_fR48THw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A24B01A7-211E-4F65-98D3-44BD86CC034E@gmail.com>

Hi Selvin,
In what way do you feel you were discriminated? It's always important to know how to answer questions about transportation and the technology you'll be using.
I'm starting my internship in 2 weeks. I found this one through word of mouth, in speaking with a law professor that knew someone who knew someone that was hiring an intern, as well as sending them my resume. 
Are you still in college? If so, I'd suggest the career office as a starting point, but beyond that it's really up to you. My career center didn't really know how to help, so I had to get my on-campus job (at my school newspaper) on my own. The DOR can help, but uqimately you need to know what you want from them.
Vejas  

> On 16 May 2019, at 07:26, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Greeting:
> I was wondering if someone is looking for a job like I am? I need some
> assistance about how to interview. I was very nervous on my first one.
> I think I got discriminated on the walmart job that I applied for.
> 
> -- 
> *Selvin Linder *
> 336-645-0252
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From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Thu May 16 17:32:44 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:32:44 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Job seekers
In-Reply-To: <A24B01A7-211E-4F65-98D3-44BD86CC034E@gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vFftV5EcxLbVyziHvOHrwysJtFuKH08jyvZ=9_fR48THw@mail.gmail.com>
	<A24B01A7-211E-4F65-98D3-44BD86CC034E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vFio66hAyQhnK1CwKqWZOonvAx53VNNrxeWS2XxTGmJuQ@mail.gmail.com>

To give you more information about why I think this way. this because the
system that they used was very blurry and I could not see the instructions
to the assessment  they had for Freight package unloading and filling
orders jobs. I am very frustrated with the system. Flash player is junk
with ZoomText. I wrote a review on linked in about walmart.

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:18 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Selvin,
> In what way do you feel you were discriminated? It's always important to
> know how to answer questions about transportation and the technology you'll
> be using.
> I'm starting my internship in 2 weeks. I found this one through word of
> mouth, in speaking with a law professor that knew someone who knew someone
> that was hiring an intern, as well as sending them my resume.
> Are you still in college? If so, I'd suggest the career office as a
> starting point, but beyond that it's really up to you. My career center
> didn't really know how to help, so I had to get my on-campus job (at my
> school newspaper) on my own. The DOR can help, but uqimately you need to
> know what you want from them.
> Vejas
>
> > On 16 May 2019, at 07:26, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Greeting:
> > I was wondering if someone is looking for a job like I am? I need some
> > assistance about how to interview. I was very nervous on my first one.
> > I think I got discriminated on the walmart job that I applied for.
> >
> > --
> > *Selvin Linder *
> > 336-645-0252
> > _______________________________________________
> > NABS-L mailing list
> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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>


-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From tyler at tysdomain.com  Thu May 16 17:50:25 2019
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:50:25 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Job seekers
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vFio66hAyQhnK1CwKqWZOonvAx53VNNrxeWS2XxTGmJuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACud-vFftV5EcxLbVyziHvOHrwysJtFuKH08jyvZ=9_fR48THw@mail.gmail.com>
	<A24B01A7-211E-4F65-98D3-44BD86CC034E@gmail.com>
	<CACud-vFio66hAyQhnK1CwKqWZOonvAx53VNNrxeWS2XxTGmJuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e745135d-e847-2e5b-bae6-bf3f36b164b7@tysdomain.com>

Hello:
Part of working with any company is dealing with accessibility issues 
and working on fixing them. This happens with every company I've worked 
with, regardless of the company and/or size. I also think it's important 
that we step back and understand what discrimenation is, because I would 
argue that lack of accessibility is not discrimenation based on how it 
was handled. For instance, did you specifically ask for an accommodation 
or propose solutions for said accommodation?

I would warn you to be careful how and what you do on the internet. 
Linkedin is a very important place for recruitment, and trashing a huge 
company because they were not accessible without more background 
information is going to raise flags for any HR person.

I'm not saying you're wrong to be upset; I'm not even saying that you 
weren't actually discrimenated against. What I am trying to convey 
however, is the point that one company isn't going to make or break you, 
and you have a lot of tools in your toolbox before you shout 
discrimination from the rooftops, and you should make use of them. 
Beyond that, keep in mind your internet persona; your bad review on 
Linkedin isn't going to hurt a company that size; the only person that 
will be hurt as a result is you and only you, when future employers 
and/or recruiters find your Linkedin. DO not use it like yelp.
On 5/16/2019 1:32 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
> To give you more information about why I think this way. this because the
> system that they used was very blurry and I could not see the instructions
> to the assessment  they had for Freight package unloading and filling
> orders jobs. I am very frustrated with the system. Flash player is junk
> with ZoomText. I wrote a review on linked in about walmart.
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:18 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Selvin,
>> In what way do you feel you were discriminated? It's always important to
>> know how to answer questions about transportation and the technology you'll
>> be using.
>> I'm starting my internship in 2 weeks. I found this one through word of
>> mouth, in speaking with a law professor that knew someone who knew someone
>> that was hiring an intern, as well as sending them my resume.
>> Are you still in college? If so, I'd suggest the career office as a
>> starting point, but beyond that it's really up to you. My career center
>> didn't really know how to help, so I had to get my on-campus job (at my
>> school newspaper) on my own. The DOR can help, but uqimately you need to
>> know what you want from them.
>> Vejas
>>
>>> On 16 May 2019, at 07:26, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Greeting:
>>> I was wondering if someone is looking for a job like I am? I need some
>>> assistance about how to interview. I was very nervous on my first one.
>>> I think I got discriminated on the walmart job that I applied for.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Selvin Linder *
>>> 336-645-0252
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com
>>
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>>
>

-- 

Take Care,
Tyler Littlefield

Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business 
solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site 
<http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter 
<http://twitter.com/sorressean>

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Thu May 16 18:13:57 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 14:13:57 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Job seekers
In-Reply-To: <e745135d-e847-2e5b-bae6-bf3f36b164b7@tysdomain.com>
References: <CACud-vFftV5EcxLbVyziHvOHrwysJtFuKH08jyvZ=9_fR48THw@mail.gmail.com>
	<A24B01A7-211E-4F65-98D3-44BD86CC034E@gmail.com>
	<CACud-vFio66hAyQhnK1CwKqWZOonvAx53VNNrxeWS2XxTGmJuQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<e745135d-e847-2e5b-bae6-bf3f36b164b7@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <CACud-vEC92kmPAQKy+Pg94vbE+CEPFs_KcvJQLse1uq4NZUUeA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the advice.

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:50 PM Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com>
wrote:

> Hello:
> Part of working with any company is dealing with accessibility issues and
> working on fixing them. This happens with every company I've worked with,
> regardless of the company and/or size. I also think it's important that we
> step back and understand what discrimenation is, because I would argue that
> lack of accessibility is not discrimenation based on how it was handled.
> For instance, did you specifically ask for an accommodation or propose
> solutions for said accommodation?
>
> I would warn you to be careful how and what you do on the internet.
> Linkedin is a very important place for recruitment, and trashing a huge
> company because they were not accessible without more background
> information is going to raise flags for any HR person.
>
> I'm not saying you're wrong to be upset; I'm not even saying that you
> weren't actually discrimenated against. What I am trying to convey however,
> is the point that one company isn't going to make or break you, and you
> have a lot of tools in your toolbox before you shout discrimination from
> the rooftops, and you should make use of them. Beyond that, keep in mind
> your internet persona; your bad review on Linkedin isn't going to hurt a
> company that size; the only person that will be hurt as a result is you and
> only you, when future employers and/or recruiters find your Linkedin. DO
> not use it like yelp.
> On 5/16/2019 1:32 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
>
> To give you more information about why I think this way. this because the
> system that they used was very blurry and I could not see the instructions
> to the assessment  they had for Freight package unloading and filling
> orders jobs. I am very frustrated with the system. Flash player is junk
> with ZoomText. I wrote a review on linked in about walmart.
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:18 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Selvin,
> In what way do you feel you were discriminated? It's always important to
> know how to answer questions about transportation and the technology you'll
> be using.
> I'm starting my internship in 2 weeks. I found this one through word of
> mouth, in speaking with a law professor that knew someone who knew someone
> that was hiring an intern, as well as sending them my resume.
> Are you still in college? If so, I'd suggest the career office as a
> starting point, but beyond that it's really up to you. My career center
> didn't really know how to help, so I had to get my on-campus job (at my
> school newspaper) on my own. The DOR can help, but uqimately you need to
> know what you want from them.
> Vejas
>
>
> On 16 May 2019, at 07:26, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>
> wrote:
>
> Greeting:
> I was wondering if someone is looking for a job like I am? I need some
> assistance about how to interview. I was very nervous on my first one.
> I think I got discriminated on the walmart job that I applied for.
>
> --
> *Selvin Linder *
> 336-645-0252
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
>
> Take Care,
> Tyler Littlefield Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and
> business solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site
> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter
> <http://twitter.com/sorressean>
>


-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From hstaley at nfbtx.org  Thu May 16 21:42:17 2019
From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 16:42:17 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Job seekers
In-Reply-To: <e745135d-e847-2e5b-bae6-bf3f36b164b7@tysdomain.com>
References: <CACud-vFftV5EcxLbVyziHvOHrwysJtFuKH08jyvZ=9_fR48THw@mail.gmail.com>
	<A24B01A7-211E-4F65-98D3-44BD86CC034E@gmail.com>
	<CACud-vFio66hAyQhnK1CwKqWZOonvAx53VNNrxeWS2XxTGmJuQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<e745135d-e847-2e5b-bae6-bf3f36b164b7@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <89DA7C66-B01F-41B8-830B-72D259135530@nfbtx.org>

They truth is that the only way to get good at interviewing is to interview.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On May 16, 2019, at 12:50, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> Part of working with any company is dealing with accessibility issues and working on fixing them. This happens with every company I've worked with, regardless of the company and/or size. I also think it's important that we step back and understand what discrimenation is, because I would argue that lack of accessibility is not discrimenation based on how it was handled. For instance, did you specifically ask for an accommodation or propose solutions for said accommodation?
> 
> I would warn you to be careful how and what you do on the internet. Linkedin is a very important place for recruitment, and trashing a huge company because they were not accessible without more background information is going to raise flags for any HR person.
> 
> I'm not saying you're wrong to be upset; I'm not even saying that you weren't actually discrimenated against. What I am trying to convey however, is the point that one company isn't going to make or break you, and you have a lot of tools in your toolbox before you shout discrimination from the rooftops, and you should make use of them. Beyond that, keep in mind your internet persona; your bad review on Linkedin isn't going to hurt a company that size; the only person that will be hurt as a result is you and only you, when future employers and/or recruiters find your Linkedin. DO not use it like yelp.
>> On 5/16/2019 1:32 PM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
>> To give you more information about why I think this way. this because the
>> system that they used was very blurry and I could not see the instructions
>> to the assessment  they had for Freight package unloading and filling
>> orders jobs. I am very frustrated with the system. Flash player is junk
>> with ZoomText. I wrote a review on linked in about walmart.
>> 
>> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:18 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Selvin,
>>> In what way do you feel you were discriminated? It's always important to
>>> know how to answer questions about transportation and the technology you'll
>>> be using.
>>> I'm starting my internship in 2 weeks. I found this one through word of
>>> mouth, in speaking with a law professor that knew someone who knew someone
>>> that was hiring an intern, as well as sending them my resume.
>>> Are you still in college? If so, I'd suggest the career office as a
>>> starting point, but beyond that it's really up to you. My career center
>>> didn't really know how to help, so I had to get my on-campus job (at my
>>> school newspaper) on my own. The DOR can help, but uqimately you need to
>>> know what you want from them.
>>> Vejas
>>> 
>>>> On 16 May 2019, at 07:26, Selvin Linder via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Greeting:
>>>> I was wondering if someone is looking for a job like I am? I need some
>>>> assistance about how to interview. I was very nervous on my first one.
>>>> I think I got discriminated on the walmart job that I applied for.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> *Selvin Linder *
>>>> 336-645-0252
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> NABS-L:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alpineimagination%40gmail.com
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> NABS-L:
>>> 
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Take Care,
> Tyler Littlefield
> 
> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter <http://twitter.com/sorressean>
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From kenia.flores at furman.edu  Fri May 17 00:35:09 2019
From: kenia.flores at furman.edu (Kenia Flores-Student)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 00:35:09 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] 2019 Southeastern Regional Student Seminar
 Registration Now Open!
In-Reply-To: <2E8C83E7-8AF4-4CCF-B825-4C201F13B048@gmail.com>
References: <6F77F29F-8C2C-4576-A30A-85A37CCD79D1@gmail.com>,
	<2E8C83E7-8AF4-4CCF-B825-4C201F13B048@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8239CF96-17F7-4682-8D41-0F87D9943469@furman.edu>

Hi Cullen,

We are so glad to hear you are interested in attending the 2019 Southeast Regional Student Seminar. The room rate is currently $89. However, we are working with affiliates to see how much they are willing to subsidize. We will communicate that information to students once it is available. Please don’t hesitate to reach out should you have additional questions. We look forward to seeing you in August!

Best,
Kenia


Kenia Flores
2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students 

> On May 15, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Cullen Gallagher via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> This sounds awesome! Any idea as to what the room rate will be? Trying to figure out if I can come.
> Thanks,
> Cullen
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Nabsters!
>> 
>> We are so excited to announce that registration for Southeastern Seminar is now open!
>> 
>> This will be a weekend filled with information, education, and fun for all students. We can’t wait to see you all in Virginia this August!
>> 
>> Below is the link to register. Please complete the entire form. More information, including payment details to reserve your spot, will be made available shortly, so please continue checking your email.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> event Information
>> 
>> What: Southeastern Seminar
>> 
>> Where: The Westin Crystal City: 1800 Jefferson Davis Highway, Arlington, Virginia (22202)
>> 
>> When: August 16-18 2019
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNNgaOlJrOfR7ubUXte95TF8TLX7GnA7vDEanIkd_3WwdVEw/viewform
>> 
>> Feel free to email Mausam Mehta mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com or Kathryn Webster nabs.president at gmail.com with any questions you may have.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Nina Marranca | Southeastern Seminar Planning Committee
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From th404 at comcast.net  Fri May 17 04:15:12 2019
From: th404 at comcast.net (Tina Hansen)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 21:15:12 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
Message-ID: <001001d50c67$1ff6f220$5fe4d660$@comcast.net>

Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have been
concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time management for
blind/visually impaired college students.

 

I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for this
kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What about a
podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?

 

What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make the most
of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student when
it comes to time management?

 

I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an
infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum capacity
is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop?

 

My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the problem
of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually impaired
student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize that
while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not
always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either recorded or
using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
content.

 

As I said before a number of books either come with planners or discuss the
benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general market
are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired students. The
only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American Printing
House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print
planners. Please pardon me for that.

 

One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip of
material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and
appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the iPhone, I
began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to experiment
with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.

 

My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for how a
blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also, what
happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need to
complete assignments in a timely manner?

 

I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address these
problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix of
articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks


From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Fri May 17 13:05:58 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 09:05:58 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
In-Reply-To: <001001d50c67$1ff6f220$5fe4d660$@comcast.net>
References: <001001d50c67$1ff6f220$5fe4d660$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CACud-vF7x8dCnBgjUZOi4vGT_s+PKfJXm28i1F9pdm1gQ+UEKA@mail.gmail.com>

What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have been
> concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time management for
> blind/visually impaired college students.
>
>
>
> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for this
> kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What about a
> podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?
>
>
>
> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make the most
> of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student when
> it comes to time management?
>
>
>
> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an
> infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum
> capacity
> is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop?
>
>
>
> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the
> problem
> of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually
> impaired
> student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize that
> while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not
> always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either recorded
> or
> using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
> content.
>
>
>
> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or discuss the
> benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general market
> are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired students. The
> only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American Printing
> House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print
> planners. Please pardon me for that.
>
>
>
> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip of
> material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and
> appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the iPhone, I
> began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to experiment
> with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.
>
>
>
> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for how a
> blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also, what
> happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need to
> complete assignments in a timely manner?
>
>
>
> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address
> these
> problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix of
> articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
>


-- 
*Selvin Linder *
336-645-0252

From tyler at tysdomain.com  Fri May 17 13:57:02 2019
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 09:57:02 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
In-Reply-To: <CACud-vF7x8dCnBgjUZOi4vGT_s+PKfJXm28i1F9pdm1gQ+UEKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001001d50c67$1ff6f220$5fe4d660$@comcast.net>
	<CACud-vF7x8dCnBgjUZOi4vGT_s+PKfJXm28i1F9pdm1gQ+UEKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04d0f926-590a-f1b5-729a-e436b5850aee@tysdomain.com>

She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion. 
I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought 
to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and 
constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site 
which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles 
with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just 
something to be aware of before we start calling people out.
On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
> What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have been
>> concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time management for
>> blind/visually impaired college students.
>>
>>
>>
>> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for this
>> kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What about a
>> podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?
>>
>>
>>
>> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make the most
>> of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student when
>> it comes to time management?
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an
>> infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum
>> capacity
>> is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop?
>>
>>
>>
>> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the
>> problem
>> of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually
>> impaired
>> student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize that
>> while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not
>> always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either recorded
>> or
>> using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
>> content.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or discuss the
>> benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general market
>> are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired students. The
>> only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American Printing
>> House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print
>> planners. Please pardon me for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip of
>> material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and
>> appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the iPhone, I
>> began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to experiment
>> with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.
>>
>>
>>
>> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for how a
>> blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also, what
>> happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need to
>> complete assignments in a timely manner?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address
>> these
>> problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix of
>> articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>>
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
>>
>

-- 

Take Care,
Tyler Littlefield

Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business 
solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site 
<http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter 
<http://twitter.com/sorressean>

From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Fri May 17 14:16:51 2019
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 10:16:51 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
Message-ID: <5cdec257.1c69fb81.31a51.50c2@mx.google.com>

Hi Tina thanks for your message. It is important for blind and visually impaired college students to manage their time effectively. When I was in college, I used the daily planner on my BrailleNote Apex to keep track of my assignments. Since most of my courses were ooline, I checked the syllabi constantly to ensure I completed my assignments in a timely manner. I did all of this before I was introduced to the IPhone. I now use the Calendar apps on phone and BrailleNote Touch to keep track of my appointments.

I think discussions about topics like this would be helpful for college students who are blind or visually impaired. Since many individuals check their emails multiple times a day, they are more likely to see the responses to this post.

Roanna Bacchus 

On May 17, 2019 9:57 AM, "Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion. 
> I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought 
> to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and 
> constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site 
> which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles 
> with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just 
> something to be aware of before we start calling people out. 
> On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote: 
> > What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this? 
> > 
> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> >> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have been 
> >> concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time management for 
> >> blind/visually impaired college students. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for this 
> >> kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What about a 
> >> podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make the most 
> >> of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student when 
> >> it comes to time management? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an 
> >> infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum 
> >> capacity 
> >> is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the 
> >> problem 
> >> of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually 
> >> impaired 
> >> student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize that 
> >> while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not 
> >> always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either recorded 
> >> or 
> >> using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other 
> >> content. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or discuss the 
> >> benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general market 
> >> are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired students. The 
> >> only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American Printing 
> >> House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print 
> >> planners. Please pardon me for that. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip of 
> >> material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and 
> >> appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the iPhone, I 
> >> began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to experiment 
> >> with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for how a 
> >> blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also, what 
> >> happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need to 
> >> complete assignments in a timely manner? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address 
> >> these 
> >> problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix of 
> >> articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________ 
> >> NABS-L mailing list 
> >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org 
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org 
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> >> NABS-L: 
> >> 
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu 
> >> 
> > 
>
> -- 
>
> Take Care, 
> Tyler Littlefield 
>
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> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site 
> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
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From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Fri May 17 14:33:55 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 14:33:55 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
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I agree with this. I use the Google calendar app and write my own planner. I don't know where I'd be without writing things down.


________________________________
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18
To: Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L
Cc: Roanna Bacchus
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited

Hi Tina thanks for your message. It is important for blind and visually impaired college students to manage their time effectively. When I was in college, I used the daily planner on my BrailleNote Apex to keep track of my assignments. Since most of my courses were ooline, I checked the syllabi constantly to ensure I completed my assignments in a timely manner. I did all of this before I was introduced to the IPhone. I now use the Calendar apps on phone and BrailleNote Touch to keep track of my appointments.

I think discussions about topics like this would be helpful for college students who are blind or visually impaired. Since many individuals check their emails multiple times a day, they are more likely to see the responses to this post.

Roanna Bacchus

On May 17, 2019 9:57 AM, "Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion.
> I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought
> to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and
> constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site
> which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles
> with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just
> something to be aware of before we start calling people out.
> On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
> > What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?
> >
> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have been
> >> concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time management for
> >> blind/visually impaired college students.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for this
> >> kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What about a
> >> podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make the most
> >> of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student when
> >> it comes to time management?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an
> >> infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum
> >> capacity
> >> is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the
> >> problem
> >> of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually
> >> impaired
> >> student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize that
> >> while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not
> >> always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either recorded
> >> or
> >> using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
> >> content.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or discuss the
> >> benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general market
> >> are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired students. The
> >> only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American Printing
> >> House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print
> >> planners. Please pardon me for that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip of
> >> material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and
> >> appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the iPhone, I
> >> began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to experiment
> >> with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for how a
> >> blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also, what
> >> happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need to
> >> complete assignments in a timely manner?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address
> >> these
> >> problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix of
> >> articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NABS-L mailing list
> >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> NABS-L:
> >>
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sflinder775%40access.alamancecc.edu
> >>
> >
>
> --
>
> Take Care,
> Tyler Littlefield
>
> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business
> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site
> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin
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From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Fri May 17 14:49:32 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 10:49:32 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR07MB5737EFA82836A9AC61CE1E60F30B0@DM6PR07MB5737.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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I agree with you about what you said. This is sometimes a annoying mailing
list.

This is being managed by Alamance Community College.

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:35 AM Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> I agree with this. I use the Google calendar app and write my own planner.
> I don't know where I'd be without writing things down.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Roanna Bacchus via
> NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18
> To: Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L
> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
>
> Hi Tina thanks for your message. It is important for blind and visually
> impaired college students to manage their time effectively. When I was in
> college, I used the daily planner on my BrailleNote Apex to keep track of
> my assignments. Since most of my courses were ooline, I checked the syllabi
> constantly to ensure I completed my assignments in a timely manner. I did
> all of this before I was introduced to the IPhone. I now use the Calendar
> apps on phone and BrailleNote Touch to keep track of my appointments.
>
> I think discussions about topics like this would be helpful for college
> students who are blind or visually impaired. Since many individuals check
> their emails multiple times a day, they are more likely to see the
> responses to this post.
>
> Roanna Bacchus
>
> On May 17, 2019 9:57 AM, "Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L" <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion.
> > I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought
> > to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and
> > constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site
> > which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles
> > with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just
> > something to be aware of before we start calling people out.
> > On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
> > > What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have
> been
> > >> concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time
> management for
> > >> blind/visually impaired college students.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for
> this
> > >> kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What
> about a
> > >> podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make
> the most
> > >> of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student
> when
> > >> it comes to time management?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an
> > >> infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum
> > >> capacity
> > >> is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the
> > >> problem
> > >> of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually
> > >> impaired
> > >> student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize
> that
> > >> while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not
> > >> always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either
> recorded
> > >> or
> > >> using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
> > >> content.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or
> discuss the
> > >> benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general
> market
> > >> are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired
> students. The
> > >> only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American
> Printing
> > >> House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large
> print
> > >> planners. Please pardon me for that.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip
> of
> > >> material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and
> > >> appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the
> iPhone, I
> > >> began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to
> experiment
> > >> with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for
> how a
> > >> blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also,
> what
> > >> happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need
> to
> > >> complete assignments in a timely manner?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address
> > >> these
> > >> problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix
> of
> > >> articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> NABS-L mailing list
> > >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > >> NABS-L:
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> > >>
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> > >>
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Take Care,
> > Tyler Littlefield
> >
> > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business
> > solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site
> > <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin
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From steve.jacobson at outlook.com  Fri May 17 15:02:38 2019
From: steve.jacobson at outlook.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 15:02:38 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
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One aspect of this that really needs some thought is how one migrates from being a student with extra time given for tests and such to an employee situation where there is no accommodation as such for extra time for completing projects.  As blind people, we have to figure out how to be as efficient as we can when we become employed, and working toward that when we are students makes sense.  There may be accommodations available for certain kinds of testing on the job, but there is no law that requires an employer to pay blind people the same as others even though we don't finish projects within the established deadlines.  This isn't always an easy adjustment to make, and it is something that some students have not considered.  

Pushing oneself to perform the actual test within the normal time limits, excluding extra time needed that is directly associated with accessibility, is one way to do this.  If one takes notes on a device and then the notes are lost, nobody else will care.  As far as they are concerned, the notes were not taken.  We have to understand the reliability of whatever devices we use.  Needing to wait for somebody to take you somewhere adds to inefficiency.  Working on travel skills is relevant for most jobs.  If one fails a course as a student, it may cost that student time and perhaps money.  However, when you take the course again, your college gets paid again for that.  If one doesn't meet a project deadline, it costs your employer extra money and that will reflect on the employee.  The dynamics are different and efficiency and time management become even more important.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 8:57 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited

She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion. 
I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought 
to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and 
constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site 
which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles 
with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just 
something to be aware of before we start calling people out.
On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
> What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have been
>> concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time management for
>> blind/visually impaired college students.
>>
>>
>>
>> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for this
>> kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What about a
>> podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?
>>
>>
>>
>> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make the most
>> of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student when
>> it comes to time management?
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an
>> infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum
>> capacity
>> is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop?
>>
>>
>>
>> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the
>> problem
>> of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually
>> impaired
>> student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize that
>> while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not
>> always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either recorded
>> or
>> using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
>> content.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or discuss the
>> benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general market
>> are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired students. The
>> only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American Printing
>> House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print
>> planners. Please pardon me for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip of
>> material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and
>> appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the iPhone, I
>> began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to experiment
>> with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.
>>
>>
>>
>> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for how a
>> blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also, what
>> happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need to
>> complete assignments in a timely manner?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address
>> these
>> problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix of
>> articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnabs-l_nfbnet.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C310c65a9e5734d5f27f608d6dacfb8e4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636936983019330608&amp;sdata=cyQDv%2FaJusv5Xk1S%2Fc6CHlL8yTk8fJo8Iy2RyrLnVWY%3D&amp;reserved=0
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From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Fri May 17 15:41:18 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 11:41:18 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
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Hi Nabers Students:

My Apologizes to everyone on this list. I did not mean to be rude. I want
to let you know what I use for time management. Microsoft offers a planner
application and word and all of Microsoft products free of charge. Download
it for free. Here is the link to it. provide your school email to get it
for free.  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/education/products/office

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 11:03 AM Steve Jacobson via NABS-L <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> One aspect of this that really needs some thought is how one migrates from
> being a student with extra time given for tests and such to an employee
> situation where there is no accommodation as such for extra time for
> completing projects.  As blind people, we have to figure out how to be as
> efficient as we can when we become employed, and working toward that when
> we are students makes sense.  There may be accommodations available for
> certain kinds of testing on the job, but there is no law that requires an
> employer to pay blind people the same as others even though we don't finish
> projects within the established deadlines.  This isn't always an easy
> adjustment to make, and it is something that some students have not
> considered.
>
> Pushing oneself to perform the actual test within the normal time limits,
> excluding extra time needed that is directly associated with accessibility,
> is one way to do this.  If one takes notes on a device and then the notes
> are lost, nobody else will care.  As far as they are concerned, the notes
> were not taken.  We have to understand the reliability of whatever devices
> we use.  Needing to wait for somebody to take you somewhere adds to
> inefficiency.  Working on travel skills is relevant for most jobs.  If one
> fails a course as a student, it may cost that student time and perhaps
> money.  However, when you take the course again, your college gets paid
> again for that.  If one doesn't meet a project deadline, it costs your
> employer extra money and that will reflect on the employee.  The dynamics
> are different and efficiency and time management become even more important.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 8:57 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >
> Cc: Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
>
> She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion.
> I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought
> to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and
> constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site
> which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles
> with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just
> something to be aware of before we start calling people out.
> On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
> > What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?
> >
> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have been
> >> concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time management
> for
> >> blind/visually impaired college students.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for this
> >> kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog? What
> about a
> >> podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make the
> most
> >> of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you as a student
> when
> >> it comes to time management?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have an
> >> infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your maximum
> >> capacity
> >> is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can stop?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to the
> >> problem
> >> of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a blind/visually
> >> impaired
> >> student and may need to work while going to school. I also recognize
> that
> >> while it would be ideal to have college textbooks in Braille, it's not
> >> always possible. As a result, there are times when audio, either
> recorded
> >> or
> >> using a screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
> >> content.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or discuss
> the
> >> benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on the general
> market
> >> are highly visual and don't work for blind/visually impaired students.
> The
> >> only Braille paper planner I know of is produced by the American
> Printing
> >> House for the Blind. Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print
> >> planners. Please pardon me for that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a strip of
> >> material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture ideas and
> >> appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced to the
> iPhone, I
> >> began to use that. I was no longer a student but I did get to experiment
> >> with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for how
> a
> >> blind/visually impaired college student can deal with burnout. Also,
> what
> >> happens when you, as a college student, feel overloaded, yet you need to
> >> complete assignments in a timely manner?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students address
> >> these
> >> problems. This is why I'm especially interested in the idea of a mix of
> >> articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any thoughts? Thanks
> >>
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> --
>
> Take Care,
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From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Sat May 18 09:04:01 2019
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 09:04:01 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] REMINDER: Legislative Advocacy Committee Call Sunday,
 May 19, at 8 PM ET
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QUICK REMINDER

The Legislative Advocacy Committee is having our monthly conference call on Sunday, May 19, at 8pm eastern. The call-in number is 712-770-5197, and the access code is 265669.

As you probably know, our federal legislation to end the payment of subminimum wages to workers with disabilities has a congressional committee hearing coming up this week for the first time ever!

Our call will be focused on the upcoming committee hearing, what it means, and how we can help drum up support. 

Don't hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions!

Talk to you soon!

Much aloha,

Justin

Justin M. Hideaki Salisbury
he/him/his

Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
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From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com  Sun May 19 02:02:07 2019
From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 22:02:07 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Writing for NABS publications
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Hi all,

I just returned from studying abroad in Paris, France, and I'd love to tell you guys all about my experience there. I think it would be nice if an article about my experiences  could be published in different NFB/NABS publications, such as the NABS Notes, Student Slate, and Braille Monitor, but I'm not sure who I should contact. I know that Gary Wunder is in charge of the Braille Monitor, but not sure about any of the others.

I believe my experience is unique from those of other students, because I arrived in Paris not only being fluent in the language, but also having previously visited the country (I have relatives who live there). I also went to a country that is pretty good accommodating people who are blind, at least from my experiences.

I hope my experiences abroad will be out there soon, and hope you guys can provide me with some contact info.

Thanks for your help and understanding,

Sami

From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun May 19 09:54:58 2019
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 05:54:58 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Writing for NABS publications
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Contact jona WRIGHT about the nabs notes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just returned from studying abroad in Paris, France, and I'd love to tell you guys all about my experience there. I think it would be nice if an article about my experiences  could be published in different NFB/NABS publications, such as the NABS Notes, Student Slate, and Braille Monitor, but I'm not sure who I should contact. I know that Gary Wunder is in charge of the Braille Monitor, but not sure about any of the others.
> 
> I believe my experience is unique from those of other students, because I arrived in Paris not only being fluent in the language, but also having previously visited the country (I have relatives who live there). I also went to a country that is pretty good accommodating people who are blind, at least from my experiences.
> 
> I hope my experiences abroad will be out there soon, and hope you guys can provide me with some contact info.
> 
> Thanks for your help and understanding,
> 
> Sami
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From kenia.flores at furman.edu  Sun May 19 16:48:19 2019
From: kenia.flores at furman.edu (Kenia Flores-Student)
Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 16:48:19 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Writing for NABS publications
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Hi Sami,

I hope you had a wonderful semester in France! Janae Burgmeier and Matt Gip work together on our blog posts, and I'm sure they would love to hear from you. Their email addresses aare janae.burgmeier at gmail.com and matthewhgip at gmail.com. Please don't hesitate to reach out should you have additional questions.

All the best,
Kenia


Kenia Flores
Furman University ‘20
Departments of Politics & International Affairs and History
2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students
President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students
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-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 10:02 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Sami Osborne <sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] Writing for NABS publications

Hi all,

I just returned from studying abroad in Paris, France, and I'd love to tell you guys all about my experience there. I think it would be nice if an article about my experiences  could be published in different NFB/NABS publications, such as the NABS Notes, Student Slate, and Braille Monitor, but I'm not sure who I should contact. I know that Gary Wunder is in charge of the Braille Monitor, but not sure about any of the others.

I believe my experience is unique from those of other students, because I arrived in Paris not only being fluent in the language, but also having previously visited the country (I have relatives who live there). I also went to a country that is pretty good accommodating people who are blind, at least from my experiences.

I hope my experiences abroad will be out there soon, and hope you guys can provide me with some contact info.

Thanks for your help and understanding,

Sami
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From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Sun May 19 23:57:14 2019
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 23:57:14 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] URGENT: MONDAY - Please Call Your Congresswomen and
 Congressmen
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Aloha NABS members and leaders:
The House Education and Labor Committee will hold a full committee hearing on the Transformation to Competitive Employment Act, H.R. 873, on Tuesday, May 21st. We need to build more cosponsor support for this bill before that date. Chairman Bobby Scott is the bill champion along with Cathy McMorris-Rogers. Currently, there are thirty-seven co-sponsors on TCE. Please contact your member of congress and urge them to cosponsor H.R. 873, the Transformation to Competitive Employment Act.
You can contact your representative by calling the Capitol Switchboard and asking for the office in question. The number is (202) 224-3121. If you email your representative, please copy Kimie Eacobacci at keacobacci at nfb.org<mailto:keacobacci at nfb.org> .
It is critical that we move on this quickly, so please strive to make your calls and send your emails as soon as possible.
I have also included a short sample ask for you:
“My name is [name] and I am a constituent of Representative [name]. I am calling to encourage the Representative to cosponsor the Transformation to Competitive Employment Act (H.R. 873). The Transformation to Competitive Employment Act provides a thoughtful approach to phasing out Section 14(c) subminimum wage certificates over a six-year period while providing the funding, supports and training necessary to change the infrastructure of outdated business models. This “capacity-building” component of the bill is what distinguishes it from other bills that have attempted 14(c) phase-outs and is a responsible approach to ending the discriminatory payment of subminimum wage while helping businesses transform to competitive integrated employment settings. This bill aligns with the Workforce Innovation Opportunity Act (WIOA), which prioritizes competitive integrated employment for people with disabilities and significantly limits the use of subminimum wages, and with the recommendations of the WIOA Advisory Committee, which recommended a thoughtful phase-out of 14(c) together with a systematic approach to expand capacity for competitive integrated employment, particularly for people transitioning out of sheltered workshops.
Thank you for your support of blind Americans.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]”


If you want to see if your Congresswoman or Congressman is already signed on, check out this list. Current House co-sponsors for H.R 873 are:

Rep. Rodgers, Cathy McMorris [R-WA-5]*  01/30/2019
Rep. DeSaulnier, Mark [D-CA-11]  02/07/2019
Rep. Fitzpatrick, Brian K. [R-PA-1]  02/11/2019
Rep. Wilson, Frederica S. [D-FL-24]  02/14/2019
Rep. Morelle, Joseph D. [D-NY-25]  02/14/2019
Rep. Kaptur, Marcy [D-OH-9]  02/14/2019
Rep. Dean, Madeleine [D-PA-4]  02/14/2019
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria [D-NY-14]  02/22/2019
Rep. Gonzalez-Colon, Jenniffer [R-PR-At Large]  02/22/2019
Rep. Bonamici, Suzanne [D-OR-1]  02/22/2019
Rep. Gabbard, Tulsi [D-HI-2]  02/27/2019
Rep. Norton, Eleanor Holmes [D-DC-At Large]  03/06/2019
Rep. Neguse, Joe [D-CO-2]  03/06/2019
Rep. Moulton, Seth [D-MA-6]  03/12/2019
Rep. Burgess, Michael C. [R-TX-26]  03/14/2019
Rep. Harder, Josh [D-CA-10]  03/14/2019
Rep. Cisneros, Gilbert Ray, Jr. [D-CA-39]  03/14/2019
Rep. Maloney, Sean Patrick [D-NY-18]  03/21/2019
Rep. Pocan, Mark [D-WI-2]  03/27/2019
Rep. Ryan, Tim [D-OH-13]  03/27/2019
Rep. Pressley, Ayanna [D-MA-7]  04/03/2019
Rep. Huffman, Jared [D-CA-2]  04/12/2019
Rep. Cooper, Jim [D-TN-5]  04/29/2019
Rep. Omar, Ilhan [D-MN-5]  05/01/2019
Rep. Langevin, James R. [D-RI-2]  05/03/2019
Rep. Davids, Sharice [D-KS-3]  05/03/2019
Rep. Cohen, Steve [D-TN-9]  05/03/2019
Rep. Neal, Richard E. [D-MA-1]  05/10/2019
Rep. Garcia, Jesus G. "Chuy" [D-IL-4]  05/14/2019
Rep. Levin, Andy [D-MI-9]  05/14/2019
Rep. Davis, Susan A. [D-CA-53]  05/14/2019
Rep. Stewart, Chris [R-UT-2]  05/14/2019
Rep. Tlaib, Rashida [D-MI-13]  05/14/2019
Rep. Schakowsky, Janice D. [D-IL-9]  05/15/2019
Rep. Khanna, Ro [D-CA-17]  05/15/2019
Rep. Trone, David J. [D-MD-6]  05/15/2019
Rep. Pingree, Chellie [D-ME-1]  05/15/2019

Current Senate co-sponsors for S. 260 are:

Sen. Robert Casey [D-PA]
Sen. Van Hollen, Chris [D-MD]*  01/29/2019
Sen. Harris, Kamala D. [D-CA]  03/12/2019
Sen. Duckworth, Tammy [D-IL]  03/26/2019
Sen. Hassan, Margaret Wood [D-NH]  04/01/2019
Sen. Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [D-NY]  04/04/2019
Sen. King, Angus S., Jr. [I-ME]  04/30/2019

Please let me know how I can help! Additionally, you can always reach out to:

Kimie Eacobacci
Government Affairs Specialist
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
(410) 659-9314, extension 2441 | keacobacci at nfb.org<mailto:keacobacci at nfb.org>

Mahalo (Thank you),

Justin


Justin M. Hideaki Salisbury
he/him/his

Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
(808) 797-8606
president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org<http://www.nabslink.org/>





From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Mon May 20 00:31:14 2019
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 00:31:14 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Writing for NABS publications
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Aloha Sami,

You mentioned the Student Slate, which was the predecessor to the NABS Notes. We have not published the Student Slate for a good few years now.

Mahalo,

Justin


Justin M. Hideaki Salisbury
he/him/his

Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
(808) 797-8606
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Hi Sami,

I hope you had a wonderful semester in France! Janae Burgmeier and Matt Gip work together on our blog posts, and I'm sure they would love to hear from you. Their email addresses aare janae.burgmeier at gmail.com and matthewhgip at gmail.com. Please don't hesitate to reach out should you have additional questions.

All the best,
Kenia


Kenia Flores
Furman University ‘20
Departments of Politics & International Affairs and History 2nd Vice President | National Association of Blind Students President | North Carolina Association of Blind Students
(704) 476-6629
Kenia.flores at furman.edu



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Subject: [NABS-L] Writing for NABS publications

Hi all,

I just returned from studying abroad in Paris, France, and I'd love to tell you guys all about my experience there. I think it would be nice if an article about my experiences  could be published in different NFB/NABS publications, such as the NABS Notes, Student Slate, and Braille Monitor, but I'm not sure who I should contact. I know that Gary Wunder is in charge of the Braille Monitor, but not sure about any of the others.

I believe my experience is unique from those of other students, because I arrived in Paris not only being fluent in the language, but also having previously visited the country (I have relatives who live there). I also went to a country that is pretty good accommodating people who are blind, at least from my experiences.

I hope my experiences abroad will be out there soon, and hope you guys can provide me with some contact info.

Thanks for your help and understanding,

Sami
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From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Mon May 20 14:44:21 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:44:21 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] May NABS Blog Post
Message-ID: <750C922B-8745-47C1-A2F5-128293CF396A@gmail.com>

Good Morning NABSters! 

As the weather starts to warm up while you are finishing out strong in your semester and conquering those finals, papers and projects, relax and take a break and spare a moment to check out this month’s blog post. This month’s theme is all about national convention, which this year, our huge family reunion will be in Las Vegas from July 7-12. Thank you to Vejas Vasiliauskas for taking some time to write a blog post for us this month and giving some helpful convention advice. Happy Reading! 

Note: The blog post will be copied and pasted below, as well as a link to our website for your convenience. 

Link to blog post: https://nabslink.org/content/blog-post-may-2019-convention-advice-vejas-vasiliauskas

Note from the Editor: Vejas Vasiliauskas is a third-year English major at Loyola Marymount University.  When he isn't doing schoolwork, writing articles for his school's newspaper, or spending time with friends, he can often be found shut in his room, writing whatever comes to his mind.  He is considered pursuing a paralegal or law career after graduation, and will be interning this summer at Loyola Law School's Coelho Center.

Convention Advice by Vejas Vasiliauskas 
I attended my first national convention in 2004 in Atlanta, Georgia, at the age of 7, and have wonderful memories of that time.  On pre-registration day Mark Maurer, the then-president of the NFB, used his opening remarks to engage children in a brief discussion.  It is there that I met my life-long friend, Amena Thomas, and our families really got to know one another.  It was also there that I learned something seemingly basic but which many people would not have thought about: when an elevator arrives and beeps once, it goes up, and two beeps means that it will be going down.

I am now 22 and have attended 10 national conventions total.  As the years have gone by, the levels of independence I have obtained have grown vastly.  I love being able to attend meetings tailored towards my interests, and the fact that I can try at least one new meeting per year.  I enjoy catching up with friends with whom, if I did not have blindness, or the NFB, in common, I would probably rarely see.  Most of all, I love how there is no judgment among others, and the fact that we can become and gain new mentors every day.

I know that, for first-timers, convention can be overwhelming.  After all, the hotels are huge! (They have to be, to accommodate the thousands of these who attend).  But you must be willing to put yourself out there.
Don't be worried to ask for help.  Even very experienced travelers can sometimes have difficulties.  There are hotel staff, UPS workers and other attendees alike who will be more than willing to guide or point you to the right direction.  But you should also do your own exploring.

Check the agenda in advance so that you know where you will want to go each day.  Breaks are important, but try to always have some plans.  The agenda is usually out by the middle or end of June, and changes from then are rarely implemented.
There will usually be food options from cheap dining to fancier restaurants, and you are obviously welcome to eat wherever you choose.  Just know that when making plans with friends, dining may have to be very quick as you jump from one meeting to another.
Last but not least, enjoy yourself! If you can't make it to convention this year, I hope that you will at least consider coming at a later date once you are able.

Respectfully, 
Matthew Gip
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nations blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. 


From bjlejeune at colled.msstate.edu  Tue May 21 15:39:04 2019
From: bjlejeune at colled.msstate.edu (LeJeune, B.J.)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 15:39:04 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Inclusion Technology Program - Sensus Access
Message-ID: <SN6PR01MB42055920062AB5F103FAD41F9A070@SN6PR01MB4205.prod.exchangelabs.com>

This is my second request, and I hope someone will respond.  Our university (Mississippi State - Go Bulldogs) is trying to make the complete web presence of the campus fully accessible. Yes, I know it is supposed to be, but I am sure you have all had experience with various web documents and sites that are not. One service we are considering is Sensus Access at www.sensusaccess.com<http://www.sensusaccess.com>.  It advertises itself as Inclusion Technology that is appropriate for universities. Below is their advertisement.  Do any of you have experience with it and if so can you tell me how it worked for you?



SensusAccess is a self-service, alternate media solution for educational institutions. SensusAccess allows students, faculty, staff and alumni to automatically convert documents into a range of alternate media including audio books (MP3 and DAISY), e-books (EPUB, EPUB3 and Mobi) and digital Braille. The service can also be used to convert inaccessible documents such as image-only PDF files, JPG pictures and Microsoft PowerPoint presentations into more accessible and less tricky formats. We call that Inclusion Technology.





Thanks,



BJ



B. J. LeJeune, CRC, CVRT

National Research and Training Center

on Blindness and Low Vision

P. O. Box 6189

Mississippi State, MS  39762



P:  662-325-2694

F:  662-325-8989



bjlejeune at colled.msstate.edu

www.blind.msstate.edu









-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited



I agree with this. I use the Google calendar app and write my own planner. I don't know where I'd be without writing things down.





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From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>> on behalf of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18

To: Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L

Cc: Roanna Bacchus

Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited



Hi Tina thanks for your message. It is important for blind and visually impaired college students to manage their time effectively. When I was in college, I used the daily planner on my BrailleNote Apex to keep track of my assignments. Since most of my courses were ooline, I checked the syllabi constantly to ensure I completed my assignments in a timely manner. I did all of this before I was introduced to the IPhone. I now use the Calendar apps on phone and BrailleNote Touch to keep track of my appointments.



I think discussions about topics like this would be helpful for college students who are blind or visually impaired. Since many individuals check their emails multiple times a day, they are more likely to see the responses to this post.



Roanna Bacchus



On May 17, 2019 9:57 AM, "Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

>

> She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion.

> I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought

> to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and

> constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site

> which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles

> with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just

> something to be aware of before we start calling people out.

> On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:

> > What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?

> >

> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L

> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have

> >> been concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time

> >> management for blind/visually impaired college students.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for

> >> this kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog?

> >> What about a podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of articles?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make

> >> the most of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you

> >> as a student when it comes to time management?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have

> >> an infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your

> >> maximum capacity is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can

> >> stop?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to

> >> the problem of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a

> >> blind/visually impaired student and may need to work while going to

> >> school. I also recognize that while it would be ideal to have

> >> college textbooks in Braille, it's not always possible. As a

> >> result, there are times when audio, either recorded or using a

> >> screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other

> >> content.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or

> >> discuss the benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on

> >> the general market are highly visual and don't work for

> >> blind/visually impaired students. The only Braille paper planner I

> >> know of is produced by the American Printing House for the Blind.

> >> Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print planners. Please pardon me for that.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a

> >> strip of material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture

> >> ideas and appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced

> >> to the iPhone, I began to use that. I was no longer a student but I

> >> did get to experiment with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've abandoned that system.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for

> >> how a blind/visually impaired college student can deal with

> >> burnout. Also, what happens when you, as a college student, feel

> >> overloaded, yet you need to complete assignments in a timely manner?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students

> >> address these problems. This is why I'm especially interested in

> >> the idea of a mix of articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any

> >> thoughts? Thanks

> >>

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From sandragayer7 at gmail.com  Tue May 21 16:29:01 2019
From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 17:29:01 +0100
Subject: [NABS-L] Inclusion Technology Program - Sensus Access
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR01MB42055920062AB5F103FAD41F9A070@SN6PR01MB4205.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <SN6PR01MB42055920062AB5F103FAD41F9A070@SN6PR01MB4205.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CAJcYH6_XDc0tfOGe0+4Vni1dsRPgRqyQtFiD_j01PNYE7zwCEA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have had no experience with the websites you spoke about in your
email. I hope someone with the experience you need will read this and
will help you.

Very best wishes,
Sandra.

On 5/21/19, LeJeune, B.J. via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> This is my second request, and I hope someone will respond.  Our university
> (Mississippi State - Go Bulldogs) is trying to make the complete web
> presence of the campus fully accessible. Yes, I know it is supposed to be,
> but I am sure you have all had experience with various web documents and
> sites that are not. One service we are considering is Sensus Access at
> www.sensusaccess.com<http://www.sensusaccess.com>.  It advertises itself as
> Inclusion Technology that is appropriate for universities. Below is their
> advertisement.  Do any of you have experience with it and if so can you tell
> me how it worked for you?
>
>
>
> SensusAccess is a self-service, alternate media solution for educational
> institutions. SensusAccess allows students, faculty, staff and alumni to
> automatically convert documents into a range of alternate media including
> audio books (MP3 and DAISY), e-books (EPUB, EPUB3 and Mobi) and digital
> Braille. The service can also be used to convert inaccessible documents such
> as image-only PDF files, JPG pictures and Microsoft PowerPoint presentations
> into more accessible and less tricky formats. We call that Inclusion
> Technology.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> BJ
>
>
>
> B. J. LeJeune, CRC, CVRT
>
> National Research and Training Center
>
> on Blindness and Low Vision
>
> P. O. Box 6189
>
> Mississippi State, MS  39762
>
>
>
> P:  662-325-2694
>
> F:  662-325-8989
>
>
>
> bjlejeune at colled.msstate.edu
>
> www.blind.msstate.edu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nina Marranca
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 9:34 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>;
> National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Nina Marranca <ninam0814 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
>
>
>
> I agree with this. I use the Google calendar app and write my own planner. I
> don't know where I'd be without writing things down.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
> on behalf of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>
>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18
>
> To: Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L
>
> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
>
>
>
> Hi Tina thanks for your message. It is important for blind and visually
> impaired college students to manage their time effectively. When I was in
> college, I used the daily planner on my BrailleNote Apex to keep track of my
> assignments. Since most of my courses were ooline, I checked the syllabi
> constantly to ensure I completed my assignments in a timely manner. I did
> all of this before I was introduced to the IPhone. I now use the Calendar
> apps on phone and BrailleNote Touch to keep track of my appointments.
>
>
>
> I think discussions about topics like this would be helpful for college
> students who are blind or visually impaired. Since many individuals check
> their emails multiple times a day, they are more likely to see the responses
> to this post.
>
>
>
> Roanna Bacchus
>
>
>
> On May 17, 2019 9:57 AM, "Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion.
>
>> I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought
>
>> to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and
>
>> constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site
>
>> which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles
>
>> with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just
>
>> something to be aware of before we start calling people out.
>
>> On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
>
>> > What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?
>
>> >
>
>> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L
>
>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>
>
>> > wrote:
>
>> >
>
>> >> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have
>
>> >> been concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time
>
>> >> management for blind/visually impaired college students.
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for
>
>> >> this kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog?
>
>> >> What about a podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of
>> >> articles?
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make
>
>> >> the most of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you
>
>> >> as a student when it comes to time management?
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have
>
>> >> an infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your
>
>> >> maximum capacity is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can
>
>> >> stop?
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to
>
>> >> the problem of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a
>
>> >> blind/visually impaired student and may need to work while going to
>
>> >> school. I also recognize that while it would be ideal to have
>
>> >> college textbooks in Braille, it's not always possible. As a
>
>> >> result, there are times when audio, either recorded or using a
>
>> >> screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
>
>> >> content.
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or
>
>> >> discuss the benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on
>
>> >> the general market are highly visual and don't work for
>
>> >> blind/visually impaired students. The only Braille paper planner I
>
>> >> know of is produced by the American Printing House for the Blind.
>
>> >> Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print planners. Please
>> >> pardon me for that.
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a
>
>> >> strip of material where I used a voice labeling unit to capture
>
>> >> ideas and appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced
>
>> >> to the iPhone, I began to use that. I was no longer a student but I
>
>> >> did get to experiment with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've
>> >> abandoned that system.
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> My hope is that this kind of discussion could lead to solutions for
>
>> >> how a blind/visually impaired college student can deal with
>
>> >> burnout. Also, what happens when you, as a college student, feel
>
>> >> overloaded, yet you need to complete assignments in a timely manner?
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> I'm hopeful that this discussion will lead to helping students
>
>> >> address these problems. This is why I'm especially interested in
>
>> >> the idea of a mix of articles, blog posts and podcasts. Any
>
>> >> thoughts? Thanks
>
>> >>
>
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From dsykora29 at gmail.com  Tue May 21 22:20:55 2019
From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 18:20:55 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Inclusion Technology Program - Sensus Access
In-Reply-To: <CAJcYH6_XDc0tfOGe0+4Vni1dsRPgRqyQtFiD_j01PNYE7zwCEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SN6PR01MB42055920062AB5F103FAD41F9A070@SN6PR01MB4205.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CAJcYH6_XDc0tfOGe0+4Vni1dsRPgRqyQtFiD_j01PNYE7zwCEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BECF1D4B-1778-4435-9F83-57ADF76BDD1E@gmail.com>

I did use Sensus Access at my previous university. I definitely found it helpful for converting some PDFs. I wouldn’t promote using it instead of professors making their materials available in accessible formats because it would be rather tedious to convert every single file and isn’t 100% perfect at converting.  It is great as a backup for the occasional inaccessible document though. 
Danielle

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Sandra Gayer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have had no experience with the websites you spoke about in your
> email. I hope someone with the experience you need will read this and
> will help you.
> 
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
> 
>> On 5/21/19, LeJeune, B.J. via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> This is my second request, and I hope someone will respond.  Our university
>> (Mississippi State - Go Bulldogs) is trying to make the complete web
>> presence of the campus fully accessible. Yes, I know it is supposed to be,
>> but I am sure you have all had experience with various web documents and
>> sites that are not. One service we are considering is Sensus Access at
>> www.sensusaccess.com<http://www.sensusaccess.com>.  It advertises itself as
>> Inclusion Technology that is appropriate for universities. Below is their
>> advertisement.  Do any of you have experience with it and if so can you tell
>> me how it worked for you?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> SensusAccess is a self-service, alternate media solution for educational
>> institutions. SensusAccess allows students, faculty, staff and alumni to
>> automatically convert documents into a range of alternate media including
>> audio books (MP3 and DAISY), e-books (EPUB, EPUB3 and Mobi) and digital
>> Braille. The service can also be used to convert inaccessible documents such
>> as image-only PDF files, JPG pictures and Microsoft PowerPoint presentations
>> into more accessible and less tricky formats. We call that Inclusion
>> Technology.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> BJ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> B. J. LeJeune, CRC, CVRT
>> 
>> National Research and Training Center
>> 
>> on Blindness and Low Vision
>> 
>> P. O. Box 6189
>> 
>> Mississippi State, MS  39762
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> P:  662-325-2694
>> 
>> F:  662-325-8989
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bjlejeune at colled.msstate.edu
>> 
>> www.blind.msstate.edu
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nina Marranca
>> via NABS-L
>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 9:34 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>;
>> National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Nina Marranca <ninam0814 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I agree with this. I use the Google calendar app and write my own planner. I
>> don't know where I'd be without writing things down.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
>> on behalf of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18
>> 
>> To: Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L
>> 
>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Food for Thought: Time Management Revisited
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Tina thanks for your message. It is important for blind and visually
>> impaired college students to manage their time effectively. When I was in
>> college, I used the daily planner on my BrailleNote Apex to keep track of my
>> assignments. Since most of my courses were ooline, I checked the syllabi
>> constantly to ensure I completed my assignments in a timely manner. I did
>> all of this before I was introduced to the IPhone. I now use the Calendar
>> apps on phone and BrailleNote Touch to keep track of my appointments.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think discussions about topics like this would be helpful for college
>> students who are blind or visually impaired. Since many individuals check
>> their emails multiple times a day, they are more likely to see the responses
>> to this post.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Roanna Bacchus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2019 9:57 AM, "Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> She has very clearly outlined that her purpose is to start discussion.
>> 
>>> I, personally have been watching the responses and giving some thought
>> 
>>> to these issues. I find it more useful than surveys about websites and
>> 
>>> constant emails about checking out friends Youtube pages and a site
>> 
>>> which changes monthly and seems to only contain reposted NFB articles
>> 
>>> with a grammatically incorrect 2 sentence explanation about them; just
>> 
>>> something to be aware of before we start calling people out.
>> 
>>> On 5/17/2019 9:05 AM, Selvin Linder via NABS-L wrote:
>> 
>>>> What is the purpose of this? Why are you sharing this?
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM Tina Hansen via NABS-L
>> 
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org<mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>>
>> 
>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> Last weekend, I asked everyone a question that a friend and I have
>> 
>>>>> been concerned about. Is there a need for content related to time
>> 
>>>>> management for blind/visually impaired college students.
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> I asked everyone to think about this. If there really is a need for
>> 
>>>>> this kind of content, what would it look like? Would it be a blog?
>> 
>>>>> What about a podcast? What about a book or article, or a series of
>>>>> articles?
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> What about discussions and/or demonstrations on how to really make
>> 
>>>>> the most of the various apps on your smart phone that can aid you
>> 
>>>>> as a student when it comes to time management?
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> I want to expand on that with these questions. Do you feel you have
>> 
>>>>> an infinite amount of time, or do you feel you know where your
>> 
>>>>> maximum capacity is for studying, working, or whatever, so you can
>> 
>>>>> stop?
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> My hope is that discussions like this would lead to solutions to
>> 
>>>>> the problem of college burnout and work/life balance if you're a
>> 
>>>>> blind/visually impaired student and may need to work while going to
>> 
>>>>> school. I also recognize that while it would be ideal to have
>> 
>>>>> college textbooks in Braille, it's not always possible. As a
>> 
>>>>> result, there are times when audio, either recorded or using a
>> 
>>>>> screen reader, is the best way to get at the textbook or other
>> 
>>>>> content.
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> As I said before a number of books either come with planners or
>> 
>>>>> discuss the benefits and drawbacks of each type. Paper planners on
>> 
>>>>> the general market are highly visual and don't work for
>> 
>>>>> blind/visually impaired students. The only Braille paper planner I
>> 
>>>>> know of is produced by the American Printing House for the Blind.
>> 
>>>>> Oh, and by the way, I'm ignorant about large print planners. Please
>>>>> pardon me for that.
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> One mid-tech solution I experimented with was a pillbox with a
>> 
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>> 
>>>>> ideas and appointments. This worked well, but when I was introduced
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>>>>> to the iPhone, I began to use that. I was no longer a student but I
>> 
>>>>> did get to experiment with that. But now that I have an iPhone, I've
>>>>> abandoned that system.
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>>>>> 
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From nfbnj1 at verizon.net  Tue May 21 23:37:14 2019
From: nfbnj1 at verizon.net (joe ruffalo)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 18:37:14 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] room Available
Message-ID: <auto-000122900065@mailfront2.g2host.com>

Greetings Dave!
Please distribute the following information
Joe ruffalo

**
The following information will hopefully ease the mind of a member, 
room available.
From: Anne Marie harris

I booked a room for the national convention in Las Vegas checking in on July
7th & checking out on July 13th. I now have the opportunity to room with
2NJNFB friends . I no longer need the room. If someone attending has not yet
booked a room they can reach out to me by phone or email:

Anne Marie Harris

Lovey1160 at gmail.com <mailto:Lovey1160 at gmail.com>
or (856) 589-8747
We can discuss transferring the room to your name.

Anne Marie.
  


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From dandrews at visi.com  Tue May 21 23:45:43 2019
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 18:45:43 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] FREE UEB MATH & UEB Literacy online courses available.
Message-ID: <auto-000122900410@mailfront2.g2host.com>


>
>
>The FREE online training programs in UEB braille literacy and UEB 
>mathematics can be accessed at 
><https://uebonline.org/>https://uebonline.org/ and offer both free 
>courses and paid certification options.
>
>
>
>
>
>MEDIA RELEASE
>
>FOR IMMEDIATE DISTRIBUTION
>
>May 2019
>
>Australian innovation to make mathematics more accessible to blind 
>students across the globe
>
>In response to the growing need for STEM skills in Australia and 
>overseas, RIDBC has today launched UEB Mathematics, an online course 
>that enables teachers and parents to better support braille-using students.
>
>UEB Mathematics, an addition to the UEB Online e-learning platform, 
>enables professionals and parents to understand and connect 
>language, literacy and mathematics development in children with 
>vision impairment, and to plan learning experiences that are 
>inclusive of those children who use the medium of braille.
>
>An Australian innovation, UEB Online, the first e-learning braille 
>course for professionals and parents, was launched in 2014 with a 
>goal to increase braille literacy in Australia and globally. Since 
>its inception, more than 18,000 people in 184 countries have taken 
>part in the course.
>
>Now, the team behind UEB Online hope that increasing access to 
>braille for mathematics will open up more STEM career opportunities 
>for people with vision impairment in Australia and across the globe.
>
>Dr Frances Gentle, Lecturer at RIDBC Renwick who led the project to 
>create UEB Online, says the new UEB mathematics training courses are 
>designed to promote equitable access to STEM subjects for braille 
>users. "Equitable educational opportunity for children who are blind 
>requires teachers who understand the braille code and how to modify 
>print-based activities in the classroom."
>
>"We want to enable students with blindness to continue studying 
>mathematics into their senior school years and as a result, increase 
>access to careers in STEM-related fields. Achieving this 
>aspirational goal requires teachers and parents who understand 
>Unified English Braille in literary and mathematical contexts."
>
>In her role as President of the International Council for English 
>Braille, Dr Gentle says she has witnessed the positive educational 
>impact when braille-using students have the support of people who 
>understand their code. "It really helps when classroom teachers can 
>read braille text but equally, when parents can use it," she said.
>
>"Knowledge of braille enables parents to share the joys of reading 
>and writing with their child, whether it is assistance with 
>homework, notes of encouragement or birthday cards in braille."
>
>Dr Gentle also says that the ability to read braille amongst the 
>sighted community is essential. "It's critical that we increase the 
>number of people who can use and read braille so that we can 
>continue to teach it and ensure that children with blindness have 
>equitable access to education and employment."
>
>Chris Rehn, Chief Executive at RIDBC, says that keeping Australia at 
>the global forefront of service and technological innovation is an 
>important goal for the organisation. "We are committed to providing 
>the highest quality services and level of care for Australians with 
>vision and hearing impairment, and innovations such as UEB 
>Mathematics play a critical role in this.
>
>With mathematics identified as a vital skill for the future, 
>ensuring students with vision impairment have equal access to 
>education is crucial."
>
>The online training programs in braille literacy and mathematics can 
>be accessed at <https://uebonline.org/>https://uebonline.org/ and 
>offer both free courses and paid certification options.
>
>
>
>-ENDS-
>
>RIDBC is Australia's largest non-government provider of therapy, 
>education, cochlear implant and diagnostic services for people with 
>hearing or vision loss, supporting thousands of adults, children and 
>their families, each year. Services are provided from 18 sites 
>across Australia and through an outreach service that supports 
>clients living in regional areas.
>
>
>RIDBC is a charity and relies heavily on fundraising and community 
>support to be able to continue to make a difference in the lives of 
>children and adults with vision or hearing loss.
>
>For media enquiries, please contact:
>
>Linda Berrigan
>Director, Marketing and Communications
>
>Royal Institute for Deaf and Blind Children (RIDBC)
>
>T: (02) 9872 0304 | M: 0478 119 066
>Email: <mailto:linda.berrigan at ridbc.org.au>linda.berrigan at ridbc.org.au


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From dandrews at visi.com  Wed May 22 00:09:30 2019
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 19:09:30 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Inclusion Technology Program - Sensus Access
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR01MB42055920062AB5F103FAD41F9A070@SN6PR01MB4205.prod.
	exchangelabs.com>
References: <SN6PR01MB42055920062AB5F103FAD41F9A070@SN6PR01MB4205.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000122902232@mailfront2.g2host.com>

B.J. I hope you get a response -- but if not, you would probably have 
better luck on one of the lists used by DSS offices, like Athens, 
AHEAD, or DISHe -- I think it is.

If you need addresses, let me know.

Dave

At 10:39 AM 5/21/2019, LeJeune, B.J. via NABS-L wrote:
>This is my second request, and I hope someone will respond.  Our 
>university (Mississippi State - Go Bulldogs) is trying to make the 
>complete web presence of the campus fully accessible. Yes, I know it 
>is supposed to be, but I am sure you have all had experience with 
>various web documents and sites that are not. One service we are 
>considering is Sensus Access at 
>www.sensusaccess.com<http://www.sensusaccess.com>.  It advertises 
>itself as Inclusion Technology that is appropriate for universities. 
>Below is their advertisement.  Do any of you have experience with it 
>and if so can you tell me how it worked for you?
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From jrzobek at gmail.com  Wed May 22 12:26:19 2019
From: jrzobek at gmail.com (jrzobek at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 08:26:19 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Math and Science Accessibility
Message-ID: <AF2E9F48-A575-4511-B318-BBC82935991D@gmail.com>

Hello All!

I am currently working on an essay about universal design. Does anyone here know of any non-visual techniques or accessibility solutions that can be used for higher level math and science courses?

Best,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Wed May 22 12:42:22 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 12:42:22 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Math and Science Accessibility
In-Reply-To: <AF2E9F48-A575-4511-B318-BBC82935991D@gmail.com>
References: <AF2E9F48-A575-4511-B318-BBC82935991D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SN6PR07MB57438F875717BC75E7784F0EF3000@SN6PR07MB5743.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Tactile drawing kits,  tactile graph paper, talking advanced calculators, and similar products are what I've used. I also always request my math books in Braille, or pdf if Braille is absolutely not an option. You can find specific names of these types of products online to include in your essay.


________________________________
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Jonathan via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 08:29
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: jrzobek at gmail.com
Subject: [NABS-L] Math and Science Accessibility

Hello All!

I am currently working on an essay about universal design. Does anyone here know of any non-visual techniques or accessibility solutions that can be used for higher level math and science courses?

Best,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone
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From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com  Wed May 22 15:51:50 2019
From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:51:50 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Travel Tips for First-Timers in Vegas
Message-ID: <781A1024-B5E0-45BD-8506-C0D511C53AB5@gmail.com>

Fellow Federationists:

I recently came across an article which gives 12 useful tips for those who are travelling to Las Vegas. Since Vegas is such a unique city with things to do and sites to see which can be overwhelming, I'm finding these tips very useful as I plan my trip to our national convention. So I thought I would pass the article on in the hope that others who are travelling to Vegas for the first time to attend our convention will find it helpful. Here's the link: http://www.wheretraveler.com/las-vegas/play/12-tips-every-first-time-las-vegas-visitor-should-know

See you at convention!

Chris Nusbaum

From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com  Wed May 22 16:55:57 2019
From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 12:55:57 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Travel Tips for First-Timers in Vegas
In-Reply-To: <781A1024-B5E0-45BD-8506-C0D511C53AB5@gmail.com>
References: <781A1024-B5E0-45BD-8506-C0D511C53AB5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B623754-D41F-476D-ACCD-D2E1B39DFE5B@gmail.com>

Thank you, Chris. These are very helpful.
Excited to see y'all in Vegas!

Mausam Mehta
University of Virginia class of 2022
Secretary | Virginia Association of Blind Students
Board member | National Association of blind students
A proud division of the National Federation of the blind
(540) 466-6033
mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com
|
www.nabslink.org

> On May 22, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Fellow Federationists:
> 
> I recently came across an article which gives 12 useful tips for those who are travelling to Las Vegas. Since Vegas is such a unique city with things to do and sites to see which can be overwhelming, I'm finding these tips very useful as I plan my trip to our national convention. So I thought I would pass the article on in the hope that others who are travelling to Vegas for the first time to attend our convention will find it helpful. Here's the link: http://www.wheretraveler.com/las-vegas/play/12-tips-every-first-time-las-vegas-visitor-should-know
> 
> See you at convention!
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
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From jim.hulme at gmail.com  Wed May 22 17:24:29 2019
From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 13:24:29 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Travel Tips for First-Timers in Vegas
In-Reply-To: <781A1024-B5E0-45BD-8506-C0D511C53AB5@gmail.com>
References: <781A1024-B5E0-45BD-8506-C0D511C53AB5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKMC2e6dwTUUs1fsvRGcpRyNdYbt09bKq5UPwE+P33nkXyxQ6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps you might want to read The Casino: through a dealer's eyes by
Connie Allen before heading to Las Vegas. Please see the link below to buy
it on Amazon. This book is not availabel on Bookshare.

The Casino book
<https://www.amazon.com/Casino-through-Dealers-Connie-2013-11-19/dp/B01K3FXSLO/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3?keywords=the+casino+by+connie+allen&qid=1558543066&s=gateway&sr=8-3-fkmrnull>

James Hulme
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South Jersey Shore Chapter, and Technology Division
Member of State of New Jersey Department of Human Services New Jersey
Commission of the Blind and Visually Impaired
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On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:53 AM Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Fellow Federationists:
>
> I recently came across an article which gives 12 useful tips for those who
> are travelling to Las Vegas. Since Vegas is such a unique city with things
> to do and sites to see which can be overwhelming, I'm finding these tips
> very useful as I plan my trip to our national convention. So I thought I
> would pass the article on in the hope that others who are travelling to
> Vegas for the first time to attend our convention will find it helpful.
> Here's the link:
> http://www.wheretraveler.com/las-vegas/play/12-tips-every-first-time-las-vegas-visitor-should-know
>
> See you at convention!
>
> Chris Nusbaum
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From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Wed May 22 18:36:03 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 18:36:03 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Travel Tips for First-Timers in Vegas
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This was really interesting to read, from someone whose never been. Thank you for sharing!


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To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; Christopher N. Nusbaum
Cc: James Hulme
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Travel Tips for First-Timers in Vegas

Perhaps you might want to read The Casino: through a dealer's eyes by
Connie Allen before heading to Las Vegas. Please see the link below to buy
it on Amazon. This book is not availabel on Bookshare.

The Casino book
<https://www.amazon.com/Casino-through-Dealers-Connie-2013-11-19/dp/B01K3FXSLO/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3?keywords=the+casino+by+connie+allen&qid=1558543066&s=gateway&sr=8-3-fkmrnull>

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On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:53 AM Chris Nusbaum via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Fellow Federationists:
>
> I recently came across an article which gives 12 useful tips for those who
> are travelling to Las Vegas. Since Vegas is such a unique city with things
> to do and sites to see which can be overwhelming, I'm finding these tips
> very useful as I plan my trip to our national convention. So I thought I
> would pass the article on in the hope that others who are travelling to
> Vegas for the first time to attend our convention will find it helpful.
> Here's the link:
> http://www.wheretraveler.com/las-vegas/play/12-tips-every-first-time-las-vegas-visitor-should-know
>
> See you at convention!
>
> Chris Nusbaum
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From emilyzitek at gmail.com  Thu May 23 01:27:49 2019
From: emilyzitek at gmail.com (emily zitek)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 20:27:49 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] message about braille coloring books
Message-ID: <auto-000123007948@mailfront2.g2host.com>

I have been asked to distribute the following message.  If you can 
help, please respond to Emily directly, as she is not subscribed to this list.

Dave


In the late 1980s, my mother ordered three braille coloring books for
me from a place that used to be called The Guild for the Blind in
Chicago, along with a book called "So What About Drawing."  I already
have "So What About Drawing."  However, I have been looking for anyone
who might have coloring books by Marie Porter, especially the ones
described below, so that I could either borrow or purchase them in
order to make copies of the drawings.  All the books by this author
had pictures that can be drawn with the Perkins Brailler.  The first
coloring book had tactile Christmas drawings, such as an angel, Santa
Claus, and a stocking, and instructions on how to color them.  The
second book was an Easter coloring book that had tactile drawings of
an Easter egg house, an Easter basket, bunny rabbits, and a baby
chick.  If I remember correctly, the third coloring book was called
"Bears For All Reasons" and had tactile drawings of bears riding a
bike, sleeping in a bed, in running shoes, in a birthday cake, etc.
All of these books were by a lady named Marie Porter, who has passed
away, and The Guild for the Blind no longer has copies of these books.
If anyone knows how I could get a hold of these books, please e-mail
Emily Zitek at emilyzitek at gmail.com.  Thank you.


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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Thu May 23 16:19:32 2019
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:19:32 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Braille on rooms
Message-ID: <C4F49CF2-F205-4694-B8C0-0952050F2A19@gmail.com>

Hi All,
I hope that finals went well for everyone.
I'm starting an internship next week and have been able to take a few days in the mean-time to orient around the location.
My internship is at a law school. Many of the offices are not Brailled, although through repetition I know where my room is located.
Has anyone been able to go through the process of getting rooms on their campus Brailled? I'm particularly intrigued, as I will be working in disability law. I'd love for the rooms to be Brailled for the benefits of myself and other blind students.
Thanks,
Vejas 

From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Thu May 23 16:34:05 2019
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (simon bonenfant)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 12:34:05 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Braille on rooms
Message-ID: <5ce6cb9d.1c69fb81.5688a.0fbf@mx.google.com>

Hello  Vejas, 
If the building is not that big you could posibly braille the rooms up yourself. You could have someone tell you what rooms are where and then on the room you want you could attach a sticky label to the room next to the door. 
If your building is a very big building then I would suggest only getting brailled what you use. However as far as getting the hole building done offically by a braille transcriber or company I am not sure. I offten wonder who brailles up elevators and other markings in an office building. 
I would be interested in doing that depending on the circumstances it would be a good way to make some money and providing a service. 
Thanks. 
Simon. 
Sent from my braille note touch.

On May 23, 2019 12:19 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
> I hope that finals went well for everyone. 
> I'm starting an internship next week and have been able to take a few days in the mean-time to orient around the location. 
> My internship is at a law school. Many of the offices are not Brailled, although through repetition I know where my room is located. 
> Has anyone been able to go through the process of getting rooms on their campus Brailled? I'm particularly intrigued, as I will be working in disability law. I'd love for the rooms to be Brailled for the benefits of myself and other blind students. 
> Thanks, 
> Vejas 
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From keribcu at gmail.com  Thu May 23 17:26:08 2019
From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 13:26:08 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Braille on rooms
In-Reply-To: <C4F49CF2-F205-4694-B8C0-0952050F2A19@gmail.com>
References: <C4F49CF2-F205-4694-B8C0-0952050F2A19@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1d7e3e92-9017-1363-4e61-e0fef67b8cc7@gmail.com>

Go to the disability service director, and ask about who you need to 
talk to, for getting this done. Make sure they know it is the law now to 
have accessibility.

On 5/23/2019 12:19 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi All,
> I hope that finals went well for everyone.
> I'm starting an internship next week and have been able to take a few days in the mean-time to orient around the location.
> My internship is at a law school. Many of the offices are not Brailled, although through repetition I know where my room is located.
> Has anyone been able to go through the process of getting rooms on their campus Brailled? I'm particularly intrigued, as I will be working in disability law. I'd love for the rooms to be Brailled for the benefits of myself and other blind students.
> Thanks,
> Vejas
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From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Thu May 23 19:12:27 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 15:12:27 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Yea Group, Eat Meet and Greet
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References: <OPq-6PZXRjeUYSNtMNJnBw@ismtpd0025p1las1.sendgrid.net>
Message-ID: <CACud-vFC=LNaCUNC8svDUR9j=7Ye_nqugOiSJZFQ_jvcEM8pjg@mail.gmail.com>

For students interested in North Caroline.

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Date: Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:56 AM
Subject: Yea Group, Eat Meet and Greet
To: Selvin Linder <sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu>


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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Thu May 23 20:42:55 2019
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 20:42:55 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Math and Science Accessibility
In-Reply-To: <AF2E9F48-A575-4511-B318-BBC82935991D@gmail.com>
References: <AF2E9F48-A575-4511-B318-BBC82935991D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR07MB289494750EE39B6441622820AA010@MWHPR07MB2894.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

For access to Science, see:
http://dots.physics.orst.edu/


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jonathan via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 7:26 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: jrzobek at gmail.com
Subject: [NABS-L] Math and Science Accessibility

Hello All!

I am currently working on an essay about universal design. Does anyone here know of any non-visual techniques or accessibility solutions that can be used for higher level math and science courses?

Best,
Jonathan

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From janae.burgmeier at gmail.com  Thu May 23 21:49:47 2019
From: janae.burgmeier at gmail.com (Janae Burgmeier)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 16:49:47 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Outreach call
Message-ID: <ED45CB75-7CC9-46EF-A757-A5118593F1B0@gmail.com>

Hello students!  This month’s outreach committee theme is convention. Please come to our May membership call this Sunday at 8 eastern ready to share your tips and tricks for convention as well as to learn from others experiences 

Call in info (712) 770-5197,,265669

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From aliherky at gmail.com  Fri May 24 02:28:46 2019
From: aliherky at gmail.com (Ali)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 19:28:46 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Braille on rooms
Message-ID: <5ce73ad5.1c69fb81.5f6f8.3321@mx.google.com>

One can either approach the building, or Braille labels 
themselves which they then stick where they see fit.

Ali

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:19:32 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Braille on rooms

Hi All,
I hope that finals went well for everyone.
I'm starting an internship next week and have been able to take a 
few days in the mean-time to orient around the location.
My internship is at a law school. Many of the offices are not 
Brailled, although through repetition I know where my room is 
located.
Has anyone been able to go through the process of getting rooms 
on their campus Brailled? I'm particularly intrigued, as I will 
be working in disability law. I'd love for the rooms to be 
Brailled for the benefits of myself and other blind students.
Thanks,
Vejas
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From cblair1429 at gmail.com  Fri May 24 04:19:13 2019
From: cblair1429 at gmail.com (Caroline Blair)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 23:19:13 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessing Pearson Product "My Spanish Lab"
Message-ID: <CA+FowyXSR6Asf7JBq9ZXeABC90vqU5ZiQtWPQ5-KPOoUQgmydg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Nabsters!

I'm in a Spanish class at the University of Minnesota. Many of our
assignments are on a website called My Spanish Lab, but I'm having
trouble accessing the website with my screen reader (I use NVDA).

I'm wondering if any of you have been in language classes that use
this software, and if so, how you've handled it.

Thanks in advance,
Lee


From cblair1429 at gmail.com  Fri May 24 04:38:13 2019
From: cblair1429 at gmail.com (Caroline Blair)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 23:38:13 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessing Pearson Product "My Spanish Lab"
In-Reply-To: <CA+FowyXSR6Asf7JBq9ZXeABC90vqU5ZiQtWPQ5-KPOoUQgmydg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+FowyXSR6Asf7JBq9ZXeABC90vqU5ZiQtWPQ5-KPOoUQgmydg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+FowyWS8kBsDaQwhdXDzS52AvVOYMmatHUCLLB75M2VGiWwaw@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a link to the website:
https://www.pearsonmylabandmastering.com/northamerica/mylanguagelabs/

On 5/23/19, Caroline Blair <cblair1429 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Nabsters!
>
> I'm in a Spanish class at the University of Minnesota. Many of our
> assignments are on a website called My Spanish Lab, but I'm having
> trouble accessing the website with my screen reader (I use NVDA).
>
> I'm wondering if any of you have been in language classes that use
> this software, and if so, how you've handled it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Lee
>


From meyeremma13 at gmail.com  Fri May 24 06:04:46 2019
From: meyeremma13 at gmail.com (Emma Meyer)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 01:04:46 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessing Pearson Product "My Spanish Lab"
In-Reply-To: <CA+FowyWS8kBsDaQwhdXDzS52AvVOYMmatHUCLLB75M2VGiWwaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+FowyXSR6Asf7JBq9ZXeABC90vqU5ZiQtWPQ5-KPOoUQgmydg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+FowyWS8kBsDaQwhdXDzS52AvVOYMmatHUCLLB75M2VGiWwaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3492EEA6-09EF-4FA8-B2EB-E8D3C76ED3E0@gmail.com>

Hi Lee,
I have not use this particular Pearson product before, but in my experience in the past with Pearson in general it all depends on what Internet browser you’re using. I have found Internet explorer to not work, but I’ve had success with Firefox and chrome.
Hope this helps,
Emma Meyer
 

> On May 23, 2019, at 11:38 PM, Caroline Blair via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a link to the website:
> https://www.pearsonmylabandmastering.com/northamerica/mylanguagelabs/
> 
>> On 5/23/19, Caroline Blair <cblair1429 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Nabsters!
>> 
>> I'm in a Spanish class at the University of Minnesota. Many of our
>> assignments are on a website called My Spanish Lab, but I'm having
>> trouble accessing the website with my screen reader (I use NVDA).
>> 
>> I'm wondering if any of you have been in language classes that use
>> this software, and if so, how you've handled it.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Lee
>> 
> 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 25 22:08:22 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 17:08:22 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] bookshare tables
Message-ID: <023001d51346$5ef09040$1cd1b0c0$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,

 

How do you find out what is in a table or example from books in epub format
from bookshare?

Bryan

 



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From dandrews at visi.com  Sun May 26 21:17:22 2019
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 16:17:22 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: [nFBMI-Talk] final request
Message-ID: <auto-000123283590@mailfront2.g2host.com>


>
>Cc: Amy Sabo <amieelsabo at gmail.com>
>
>hello all,
>I hope that you all are doing well today. well, I had posted this to
>these lists many months ago and, I got no response from anyone from
>these lists so, here is my final request on this! and, this will be
>the final request on this topic. I had posted to theselists that I am
>wanting to attend this year's national convention in las vegas since I
>haven't been to convention since 2015 due to personal issues in my
>life. I am in still need of a roommate for convention. it's to cut
>down on the costs of convention and for the room. normally, I have
>roomed with my sister Rebecca who is also a member of the nfb but,
>cannot attendagain this year! so, if you are still interested please
>email me off list at amieelsabo at gmail.com or call me at 303-588-7725.
>either if you already have a room or if not then I will make the
>reservation asap! so, please email me or call me off the lists asap!
>time is running out and, I need to make my reservations for national
>asap!
>
>
>thanks,
>amy sabo



From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 26 22:03:20 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 17:03:20 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
Message-ID: <02af01d5140e$d5168c20$7f43a460$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,

 

I got zero response a few days ago!

Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.

Bryan

 



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From armando at theblindadvocate.com  Sun May 26 22:20:14 2019
From: armando at theblindadvocate.com (Armando Vias)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 18:20:14 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
In-Reply-To: <02af01d5140e$d5168c20$7f43a460$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <02af01d5140e$d5168c20$7f43a460$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <F24A3E8A-6BC1-4D8E-94DF-6FFAD8F48F7C@theblindadvocate.com>

Hey. What device are you using to get the text?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I got zero response a few days ago!
> 
> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
> epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
> the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Sun May 26 22:29:15 2019
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 18:29:15 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
In-Reply-To: <F24A3E8A-6BC1-4D8E-94DF-6FFAD8F48F7C@theblindadvocate.com>
References: <02af01d5140e$d5168c20$7f43a460$@sbcglobal.net>
	<F24A3E8A-6BC1-4D8E-94DF-6FFAD8F48F7C@theblindadvocate.com>
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lots of bookshare books don't have equations, tables, etc. They tell you 
that those are usually omitted. If it's just saying figure x.x, chances 
are that's a picture and won't be translated.

On 5/26/2019 6:20 PM, Armando Vias via NABS-L wrote:
> Hey. What device are you using to get the text?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 26, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>>
>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
>> epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
>> the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>>
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 26 22:43:02 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 17:43:02 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi,

Epub from bookshare is not text, it is audio like mp3 played on the vr
stream.
Bryan


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Hey. What device are you using to get the text?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I got zero response a few days ago!
> 
> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer a
student.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Sun May 26 23:30:05 2019
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 19:30:05 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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I think it's still converted from text into daisy format. epub is a text 
format, so chances are it's just processed through TTS. Even if I'm 
wrong, if they can't make tables availble in text, they're probably not 
going to extend the effort for the audio versions.

On 5/26/2019 6:43 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Epub from bookshare is not text, it is audio like mp3 played on the vr
> stream.
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Armando Vias via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:20 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Armando Vias <armando at theblindadvocate.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone
>
> Hey. What device are you using to get the text?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 26, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>>
>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from
>> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in
>> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer a
> student.
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From steve.jacobson at outlook.com  Mon May 27 02:40:22 2019
From: steve.jacobson at outlook.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 02:40:22 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Brian,

This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original publisher providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't help right now.

If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they would not be reading but rather assisting with the elements of the book that are not accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could approach that even if not ideal.

If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.

Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are probably no magic answers, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone

Hi,

 

I got zero response a few days ago!

Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.

Bryan

 



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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 27 03:35:19 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 22:35:19 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi,

Yes, it was about python programming and no it's not exactly required.
Some things are found out the hard way.
Thanks for the tips.
Bryan


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via
NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 9:40 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone

Brian,

This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One reason
I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better understanding
of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising this issue with
BookShare again as well as with the original publisher providing the EPUB
file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't help right now.

If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that the
course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of resources
are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If this course
is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be funding to hire
someone to read, except in this case they would not be reading but rather
assisting with the elements of the book that are not accessible.  There are
a couple of ways one could approach that even if not ideal.

If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering the
same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make
sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have
described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.

Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is
possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating
on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising
sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not
knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A
text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a
different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are
probably no magic answers, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via
NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone

Hi,

 

I got zero response a few days ago!

Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.

Bryan

 



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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Mon May 27 06:48:21 2019
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 23:48:21 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Quick question about NABS mentorship program application
Message-ID: <6589B0F1-63B9-4868-BAAB-BE8AFF739BB4@gmail.com>

Hi,
I hope you are all having a great Memorial Day.
I would love to be a mentor at NFB convention and just wanted to clarify something about the application. On the iPhone, after inputting the field for birth month and day, the year field is stuck at 2019. I am not able to input my actual birth year because the text will automatically go back to 2019. Therefore I just wanted to clarify and ask if "year" means the year you were born, or if it just means the year of the application, which would then of course be 2019. 
I hope this makes sense. Sorry if this is confusing.
Thanks,
Vejas

From sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu  Mon May 27 13:32:23 2019
From: sflinder775 at access.alamancecc.edu (Selvin Linder)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 09:32:23 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi Bryan:

You could also down load the book from Bookshare if you are using a windows
PC. A screen reader will read it to you. I use ZoomText and it does a good
job reading the book to me. Sorry for the delays.

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 11:36 PM Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, it was about python programming and no it's not exactly required.
> Some things are found out the hard way.
> Thanks for the tips.
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 9:40 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >
> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone
>
> Brian,
>
> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One
> reason
> I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better understanding
> of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising this issue with
> BookShare again as well as with the original publisher providing the EPUB
> file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't help right now.
>
> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that the
> course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of resources
> are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If this course
> is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be funding to hire
> someone to read, except in this case they would not be reading but rather
> assisting with the elements of the book that are not accessible.  There are
> a couple of ways one could approach that even if not ideal.
>
> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering
> the
> same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make
> sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have
> described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this
> book.
>
> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is
> possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating
> on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising
> sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not
> knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A
> text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a
> different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are
> probably no magic answers, though.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> NABS-L
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> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I got zero response a few days ago!
>
> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
> epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
> the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
>
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From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com  Mon May 27 13:48:25 2019
From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 09:48:25 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Quick question about NABS mentorship program
 application
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Hi Vejas,
We're really excited that you're interested in being aamentor.
Your question absolutely makes sense. The date input is kind of finicky, so you're not the only one. The question is asking for birth year.
I took a look at it, and you should be able to complete it without difficulty now.
If you run into any other problems or have any questions, feel free to contact me, or co-coordinator Katy Olsen.
Best,

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> On May 27, 2019, at 2:48 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I hope you are all having a great Memorial Day.
> I would love to be a mentor at NFB convention and just wanted to clarify something about the application. On the iPhone, after inputting the field for birth month and day, the year field is stuck at 2019. I am not able to input my actual birth year because the text will automatically go back to 2019. Therefore I just wanted to clarify and ask if "year" means the year you were born, or if it just means the year of the application, which would then of course be 2019. 
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From eschlenker at cox.net  Mon May 27 15:56:21 2019
From: eschlenker at cox.net (Emily Schlenker)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 10:56:21 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi. May I ask what book this is?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> 
> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original publisher providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't help right now.
> 
> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they would not be reading but rather assisting with the elements of the book that are not accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could approach that even if not ideal.
> 
> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
> 
> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are probably no magic answers, though.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I got zero response a few days ago!
> 
> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
> epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
> the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 27 16:22:37 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 11:22:37 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi,

Introducing python by bill lubanovic 2015
Bryan


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Hi. May I ask what book this is?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> 
> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One
reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better
understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising
this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original publisher
providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't
help right now.
> 
> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that
the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of
resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If
this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be
funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they would not be
reading but rather assisting with the elements of the book that are not
accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could approach that even if not
ideal.
> 
> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering
the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make
sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have
described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
> 
> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is
possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating
on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising
sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not
knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A
text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a
different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are
probably no magic answers, though.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
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> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I got zero response a few days ago!
> 
> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer a
student.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From eschlenker at cox.net  Mon May 27 16:29:16 2019
From: eschlenker at cox.net (Emily Schlenker)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 11:29:16 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Thanks. This is interesting, because I never thought about what kind of images would be in this type of book. Where I go to school, they produce my books and images on campus. You say that the student in question no longer receives services from their university, so I’m wondering if there are any volunteer organizations that produce images instead of just braille text.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Introducing python by bill lubanovic 2015
> Bryan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Emily Schlenker via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Emily Schlenker <eschlenker at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone
> 
> Hi. May I ask what book this is?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Brian,
>> 
>> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One
> reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better
> understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising
> this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original publisher
> providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't
> help right now.
>> 
>> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that
> the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of
> resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If
> this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be
> funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they would not be
> reading but rather assisting with the elements of the book that are not
> accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could approach that even if not
> ideal.
>> 
>> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering
> the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make
> sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have
> described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
>> 
>> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is
> possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating
> on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising
> sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not
> knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A
> text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a
> different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are
> probably no magic answers, though.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via 
>> NABS-L
>> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>> 
>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
>> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
>> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer a
> student.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com  Mon May 27 16:48:41 2019
From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 12:48:41 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi Bryant,
I completely understand how this can be frustrating. In my experience with bookshare books, graphics are a hit or miss. Sometimes, it will be clearly stated that the image has been omitted, and others, there is a figure number but no image description. Rarely have I ever seen an image fully described. However, as stated previously, many books use images as supplements for the text, so you can usually do without them.
In this particular case, I wanted to mention that in my CS class, I used a python primer called
The Coder’s Apprentice, by Peter Spronk.
It is a fully accessible PDF that can be downloaded for free from the website, and, while it has many figures, the author does an excellent job describing the procedures in plain text, so I did not find that I really needed the images. Additionally, all of the code is written out in a very easy-to-read format that should not give a screen reader any trouble. I used jaws and NVDA to access this book, and I did not have problems with either.
Hope that helps!
Best,

Mausam Mehta
University of Virginia class of 2022
Secretary | Virginia Association of Blind Students
Board member | National Association of blind students
A proud division of the National Federation of the blind
(540) 466-6033
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> On May 27, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Emily Schlenker via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. This is interesting, because I never thought about what kind of images would be in this type of book. Where I go to school, they produce my books and images on campus. You say that the student in question no longer receives services from their university, so I’m wondering if there are any volunteer organizations that produce images instead of just braille text.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Introducing python by bill lubanovic 2015
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Emily Schlenker via
>> NABS-L
>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:56 AM
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>> 
>> Hi. May I ask what book this is?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brian,
>>> 
>>> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One
>> reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better
>> understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising
>> this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original publisher
>> providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't
>> help right now.
>>> 
>>> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that
>> the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of
>> resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If
>> this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be
>> funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they would not be
>> reading but rather assisting with the elements of the book that are not
>> accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could approach that even if not
>> ideal.
>>> 
>>> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering
>> the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make
>> sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have
>> described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is
>> possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating
>> on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising
>> sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not
>> knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A
>> text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a
>> different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are
>> probably no magic answers, though.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via 
>>> NABS-L
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>>> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>>> 
>>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
>>> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
>>> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer a
>> student.
>>> 
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 27 16:56:38 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 11:56:38 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi,

Amazingly, I found out the code not spoken in the examples on the stream is possible to be read upon opening the epub file in explorer/edge.
Back in college, the access office obtained pdf /doc files from the publisher.
Thanks,
Bryan


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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone

Hi Bryant,
I completely understand how this can be frustrating. In my experience with bookshare books, graphics are a hit or miss. Sometimes, it will be clearly stated that the image has been omitted, and others, there is a figure number but no image description. Rarely have I ever seen an image fully described. However, as stated previously, many books use images as supplements for the text, so you can usually do without them.
In this particular case, I wanted to mention that in my CS class, I used a python primer called The Coder’s Apprentice, by Peter Spronk.
It is a fully accessible PDF that can be downloaded for free from the website, and, while it has many figures, the author does an excellent job describing the procedures in plain text, so I did not find that I really needed the images. Additionally, all of the code is written out in a very easy-to-read format that should not give a screen reader any trouble. I used jaws and NVDA to access this book, and I did not have problems with either.
Hope that helps!
Best,

Mausam Mehta
University of Virginia class of 2022
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> On May 27, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Emily Schlenker via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. This is interesting, because I never thought about what kind of images would be in this type of book. Where I go to school, they produce my books and images on campus. You say that the student in question no longer receives services from their university, so I’m wondering if there are any volunteer organizations that produce images instead of just braille text.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Introducing python by bill lubanovic 2015 Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Emily Schlenker 
>> via NABS-L
>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:56 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Emily Schlenker <eschlenker at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone
>> 
>> Hi. May I ask what book this is?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brian,
>>> 
>>> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  
>>> One
>> reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better 
>> understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly 
>> raising this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original 
>> publisher providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, 
>> but that won't help right now.
>>> 
>>> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume 
>>> that
>> the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of 
>> resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  
>> If this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there 
>> might be funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they 
>> would not be reading but rather assisting with the elements of the 
>> book that are not accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could 
>> approach that even if not ideal.
>>> 
>>> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book 
>>> covering
>> the same subject that is more accessible would be worth 
>> investigating.  Make sure to check to see if it might be available 
>> from RFBD which might have described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  
>>> It is
>> possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by 
>> concentrating on those elements that seem to be particularly 
>> important.  It is surprising sometimes how much of a picture is 
>> reinforced by the text.  Again, not knowing the subject matter puts 
>> me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A text on programming where 
>> none of the examples are accessible would be a different matter as 
>> might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are probably no magic answers, though.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz 
>>> via NABS-L
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>>> 
>>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
>>> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
>>> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer 
>>> a
>> student.
>>> 
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 27 17:02:58 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 12:02:58 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi,

Images weren't as important as examples that show blocks of code.
It turns out that the vr stream will not speak the text in an example but you can examine the code in the examples if you open the epub file on your computer.
Bryan

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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone

Thanks. This is interesting, because I never thought about what kind of images would be in this type of book. Where I go to school, they produce my books and images on campus. You say that the student in question no longer receives services from their university, so I’m wondering if there are any volunteer organizations that produce images instead of just braille text.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Introducing python by bill lubanovic 2015 Bryan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Emily Schlenker 
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Emily Schlenker <eschlenker at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone
> 
> Hi. May I ask what book this is?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Brian,
>> 
>> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One
> reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better 
> understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly 
> raising this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original 
> publisher providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, 
> but that won't help right now.
>> 
>> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume 
>> that
> the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of 
> resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  
> If this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there 
> might be funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they 
> would not be reading but rather assisting with the elements of the 
> book that are not accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could 
> approach that even if not ideal.
>> 
>> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book 
>> covering
> the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  
> Make sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which 
> might have described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
>> 
>> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  
>> It is
> possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by 
> concentrating on those elements that seem to be particularly 
> important.  It is surprising sometimes how much of a picture is 
> reinforced by the text.  Again, not knowing the subject matter puts me 
> and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A text on programming where none 
> of the examples are accessible would be a different matter as might be 
> the case with other STEM subjects.  There are probably no magic answers, though.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz 
>> via NABS-L
>> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>> 
>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
>> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
>> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer 
>> a
> student.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From steve.jacobson at outlook.com  Mon May 27 17:05:38 2019
From: steve.jacobson at outlook.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 17:05:38 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Emily,

I have not looked at this book so am just speculating, but it has often been the case in programming books where program examples are inserted as screen shots and are therefore images rather than text.  Typically, OCR, if it can be done, has trouble with programming examples because the character strings are less predictable than is the case in literary texts, and OCR errors are also more critical where one wrong character can make a program not work.  If this is the case with this book, the inaccessible elements would be very essential.  If programming examples are accessible and the images contain the occasional flowchart, then I would guess the images not being accessible would not make the book useless.  Brian may have more information on this, though.  However, if this specific book is not a requirement, there are likely other Python resources available that might work better.  .

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone

Thanks. This is interesting, because I never thought about what kind of images would be in this type of book. Where I go to school, they produce my books and images on campus. You say that the student in question no longer receives services from their university, so I’m wondering if there are any volunteer organizations that produce images instead of just braille text.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Introducing python by bill lubanovic 2015
> Bryan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Emily Schlenker via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Emily Schlenker <eschlenker at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone
> 
> Hi. May I ask what book this is?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Brian,
>> 
>> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One
> reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better
> understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly raising
> this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original publisher
> providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, but that won't
> help right now.
>> 
>> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume that
> the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of
> resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  If
> this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there might be
> funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they would not be
> reading but rather assisting with the elements of the book that are not
> accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could approach that even if not
> ideal.
>> 
>> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book covering
> the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  Make
> sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which might have
> described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
>> 
>> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  It is
> possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by concentrating
> on those elements that seem to be particularly important.  It is surprising
> sometimes how much of a picture is reinforced by the text.  Again, not
> knowing the subject matter puts me and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A
> text on programming where none of the examples are accessible would be a
> different matter as might be the case with other STEM subjects.  There are
> probably no magic answers, though.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via 
>> NABS-L
>> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
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>> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>> 
>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
>> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
>> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer a
> student.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 27 17:22:26 2019
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 12:22:26 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
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Hi,

It seems the book is possible to be read.
The flaw was listening to it on a stream and not thinking to open the epub on my computer.
The code in the examples can be read after opening the epub on a computer.
Bryan


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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone

Emily,

I have not looked at this book so am just speculating, but it has often been the case in programming books where program examples are inserted as screen shots and are therefore images rather than text.  Typically, OCR, if it can be done, has trouble with programming examples because the character strings are less predictable than is the case in literary texts, and OCR errors are also more critical where one wrong character can make a program not work.  If this is the case with this book, the inaccessible elements would be very essential.  If programming examples are accessible and the images contain the occasional flowchart, then I would guess the images not being accessible would not make the book useless.  Brian may have more information on this, though.  However, if this specific book is not a requirement, there are likely other Python resources available that might work better.  .

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


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Cc: Emily Schlenker <eschlenker at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone

Thanks. This is interesting, because I never thought about what kind of images would be in this type of book. Where I go to school, they produce my books and images on campus. You say that the student in question no longer receives services from their university, so I’m wondering if there are any volunteer organizations that produce images instead of just braille text.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Introducing python by bill lubanovic 2015 Bryan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Emily Schlenker 
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Emily Schlenker <eschlenker at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] come on someone
> 
> Hi. May I ask what book this is?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Steve Jacobson via NABS-L 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Brian,
>> 
>> This is not an uncommon problem, but I'm not saying it is right.  One
> reason I didn't respond is that it would be useful to have a better 
> understanding of the situation and the subject matter.  Certainly 
> raising this issue with BookShare again as well as with the original 
> publisher providing the EPUB file is a good idea for the long term, 
> but that won't help right now.
>> 
>> If this particular book is required for a course, one would assume 
>> that
> the course is part of a program of some sort, and seeing what kind of 
> resources are available there would certainly be one way to proceed.  
> If this course is part of a Vocational Rehabilitation plan, there 
> might be funding to hire someone to read, except in this case they 
> would not be reading but rather assisting with the elements of the 
> book that are not accessible.  There are a couple of ways one could 
> approach that even if not ideal.
>> 
>> If this specific book is not required, looking for another book 
>> covering
> the same subject that is more accessible would be worth investigating.  
> Make sure to check to see if it might be available from RFBD which 
> might have described some of the inaccessible elements if they have produced this book.
>> 
>> Sometimes inaccessible pictures and figures are not all essential.  
>> It is
> possible that the job of dealing with this can be reduced by 
> concentrating on those elements that seem to be particularly 
> important.  It is surprising sometimes how much of a picture is 
> reinforced by the text.  Again, not knowing the subject matter puts me 
> and anybody else at a disadvantage.  A text on programming where none 
> of the examples are accessible would be a different matter as might be 
> the case with other STEM subjects.  There are probably no magic answers, though.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz 
>> via NABS-L
>> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:03 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I got zero response a few days ago!
>> 
>> Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from 
>> bookshare epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in 
>> example 1.4 and no, the dss office won't help when you are no longer 
>> a
> student.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From johnawright98 at gmail.com  Mon May 27 19:11:38 2019
From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (johnawright98 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 15:11:38 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Walk-A-Thon 2019
Message-ID: <F0E78AE9-A82F-42AE-9A67-BF5BA49CF2C8@gmail.com>

Good afternoon, friends! 

NABS is calling all members to sign up for our third annual Walk-A-Thon, scheduled this year for Tuesday, July 9th.  It's easy! All you do is ask your friends and family for monetary pledges and donations and record your steps on July 9th from anywhere across the nation (or internationally). You earn money just by moving! Sign up at the link below to join the fun. Oh, and did we mention that the person who raises the most money gets a prize??? Sign up: https://go.rallyup.com/nabs2019/IGGJAH

I hope you all have a wonderful Memorial Day,

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
Director, ABLE Mercer

From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Mon May 27 20:34:13 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 15:34:13 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] 2019 Pacific Regional Student Seminar
Message-ID: <2E2F9626-796F-4F35-BB52-1B63DDAF7DF8@gmail.com>

Hey NABSters!

We are so excited to announce that registration for Pacific Seminar is open!

This will be a weekend filled with education, networking, and fun for all students. We can’t wait to see you all in California this August!

What: Pacific Regional Seminar

Where: Enchanted Hills Camp Napa Valley, California 

When: August 9-11, 2019

Registration is $100 per student and this will cover lodging and food expenses. 

Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfdOdTKMsn_sQNSa7JYLUOLrWVPkRDxtVpXJCMfGB__f5Si0g/viewform

Feel free to email Kathryn Webster nabs.president at gmail.com with any questions you may have. 

Best Regards, 
Matthew Gip
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nations blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. 


From annis1 at live.marshall.edu  Tue May 28 17:28:13 2019
From: annis1 at live.marshall.edu (Annis, Tara)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:28:13 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] password keyboard for android
Message-ID: <BL0PR01MB46598B7237BF971F34C570E4D61E0@BL0PR01MB4659.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello,

How does a blind person,  using the TalkBack screen reader for Android, type in the passwords with the password keyboard that is just the asterisk  symbol?  I'm wanting to independently create passwords for some apps, but am not sure how to resolve this?  


From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Wed May 29 16:01:34 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 11:01:34 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Outreach Call, Monday June 3rd at 9 PM Eastern
Message-ID: <528E9DB1-7889-4EEF-AC92-E0DB2BC2F2C0@gmail.com>

Dear Students, 

As summer is just around the corner, where we will be privileged to enjoy some warm weather, the NABS Outreach Committee will have a call next Monday, June 3rd, at 9 pm eastern to discuss health, fitness, staying active, and more! Come join us! 

Call (712) 770-5197,,265669 

See you next Monday!

All the best, 
Matthew Gip
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nations blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. 



From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Wed May 29 18:34:23 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 14:34:23 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder-- Southeast Regional Student Seminar Registration
 Now Open
Message-ID: <2E84B8A8-ED25-43C9-8905-A6BA4FAD5881@gmail.com>

Hello students.

                This is a friendly reminder to register for the 2019 Southeast Regional Student Seminar! This year, the seminar will be held in Arlington, Virginia, right outside Washington DC. This event will be an engaging and fun weekend, providing students across the country with skills to tackle the new school year.

 

 
•               Dates - August 16-18, 2019 
•               Where - Westin Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia
•               Transportation- Students are responsible for transportation to and from the hotel (The closest airport is Ronald Reagan International Airport.), along with a registration fee of roughly $75, in addition to outside funding sources.
•               Registration Deadline – July 15, 2019. Register here.
•               Contact - Mausam Mehta Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com with any questions
 

Feel free to share the attached flyer to help spread the word about this exciting event. We can’t wait to see you all in Virginia this August!

Best,

Nina Marranca | Southeast Regional Student Seminar Planning Committee

 

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From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Wed May 29 18:47:15 2019
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 18:47:15 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder-- Southeast Regional Student Seminar
 Registration Now Open
In-Reply-To: <2E84B8A8-ED25-43C9-8905-A6BA4FAD5881@gmail.com>
References: <2E84B8A8-ED25-43C9-8905-A6BA4FAD5881@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR07MB57370FD5F8A97C4C49F78DA8F31F0@DM6PR07MB5737.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Clarification-- To register, please click here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNNgaOlJrOfR7ubUXte95TF8TLX7GnA7vDEanIkd_3WwdVEw/viewform


________________________________
From: Nina Marranca <ninam0814 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 14:34
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: Reminder-- Southeast Regional Student Seminar Registration Now Open


Hello students.

                This is a friendly reminder to register for the 2019 Southeast Regional Student Seminar! This year, the seminar will be held in Arlington, Virginia, right outside Washington DC. This event will be an engaging and fun weekend, providing students across the country with skills to tackle the new school year.





  *   •               Dates - August 16-18, 2019
  *   •               Where - Westin Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia
  *   •               Transportation- Students are responsible for transportation to and from the hotel (The closest airport is Ronald Reagan International Airport.), along with a registration fee of roughly $75, in addition to outside funding sources.
  *   •               Registration Deadline – July 15, 2019. Register here<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNNgaOlJrOfR7ubUXte95TF8TLX7GnA7vDEanIkd_3WwdVEw/viewform?pli=1>.
  *   •               Contact - Mausam Mehta Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com<mailto:Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com> with any questions



                Feel free to share the attached flyer to help spread the word about this exciting event. We can’t wait to see you all in Virginia this August!

Best,

Nina Marranca | Southeast Regional Student Seminar Planning Committee


From annajee82 at gmail.com  Wed May 29 18:52:24 2019
From: annajee82 at gmail.com (Anna Givens)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 14:52:24 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder-- Southeast Regional Student Seminar
 Registration Now Open
In-Reply-To: <2E84B8A8-ED25-43C9-8905-A6BA4FAD5881@gmail.com>
References: <2E84B8A8-ED25-43C9-8905-A6BA4FAD5881@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <655B06DC-ECBA-49D6-A9A2-D61D4DB3AA92@gmail.com>

Nina,

Thanks for this. Sounds like a good opportunity. There is some confusion on the registration and what the costs are. Can this be clarified? Also is there an agenda or any information on what this seminar will cover or include? Additionally, is this for high school students? College? Other? 

Thanks,
Anna

> On May 29, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello students.
> 
>                 This is a friendly reminder to register for the 2019 Southeast Regional Student Seminar! This year, the seminar will be held in Arlington, Virginia, right outside Washington DC. This event will be an engaging and fun weekend, providing students across the country with skills to tackle the new school year.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> •               Dates - August 16-18, 2019 
> •               Where - Westin Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia
> •               Transportation- Students are responsible for transportation to and from the hotel (The closest airport is Ronald Reagan International Airport.), along with a registration fee of roughly $75, in addition to outside funding sources.
> •               Registration Deadline – July 15, 2019. Register here.
> •               Contact - Mausam Mehta Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com with any questions
> 
> 
> Feel free to share the attached flyer to help spread the word about this exciting event. We can’t wait to see you all in Virginia this August!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Nina Marranca | Southeast Regional Student Seminar Planning Committee
> 
> 
> 
> <2019 southeast regional student seminar flyer.docx>
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Wed May 29 19:17:08 2019
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Kathryn C. Webster | National Student President)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 15:17:08 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Reminder-- Southeast Regional Student Seminar
 Registration Now Open
In-Reply-To: <655B06DC-ECBA-49D6-A9A2-D61D4DB3AA92@gmail.com>
References: <2E84B8A8-ED25-43C9-8905-A6BA4FAD5881@gmail.com>
	<655B06DC-ECBA-49D6-A9A2-D61D4DB3AA92@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01d51653$1c7676c0$55636440$@gmail.com>

Hi Anna!

Totally hear you on the confusion around costs. To provide a little bit of context, our hotel contract is dependent on the number of students that register. We are making a final determination on costs in the next couple of weeks, but trying to balance the understanding that students pay a set price (with affiliate/chapter support) and that all is rolled into the overarching hotel bill. It is tricky given the variance in price between 40 and 80 students based on number of hotel rooms, meals, and meeting space.

We are working with affiliates and the hotel to ensure the cheapest cost for attendance, hence the ballpark figure.

Thanks for your question; and more to come!

Best,
Kathryn

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Anna Givens via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 2:52 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Anna Givens <annajee82 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Reminder-- Southeast Regional Student Seminar Registration Now Open

Nina,

Thanks for this. Sounds like a good opportunity. There is some confusion on the registration and what the costs are. Can this be clarified? Also is there an agenda or any information on what this seminar will cover or include? Additionally, is this for high school students? College? Other? 

Thanks,
Anna

> On May 29, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello students.
> 
>                 This is a friendly reminder to register for the 2019 Southeast Regional Student Seminar! This year, the seminar will be held in Arlington, Virginia, right outside Washington DC. This event will be an engaging and fun weekend, providing students across the country with skills to tackle the new school year.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> •               Dates - August 16-18, 2019 
> •               Where - Westin Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia
> •               Transportation- Students are responsible for transportation to and from the hotel (The closest airport is Ronald Reagan International Airport.), along with a registration fee of roughly $75, in addition to outside funding sources.
> •               Registration Deadline – July 15, 2019. Register here.
> •               Contact - Mausam Mehta Mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com with any questions
> 
> 
> Feel free to share the attached flyer to help spread the word about this exciting event. We can’t wait to see you all in Virginia this August!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Nina Marranca | Southeast Regional Student Seminar Planning Committee
> 
> 
> 
> <2019 southeast regional student seminar flyer.docx> 
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From carlymih at comcast.net  Wed May 29 19:57:11 2019
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 12:57:11 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] come on someone
In-Reply-To: <02af01d5140e$d5168c20$7f43a460$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <02af01d5140e$d5168c20$7f43a460$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.339.1772982287.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Hi, Brian,

Doesn't seem to be a means left unturned by you.
CarAt 03:03 PM 5/26/2019, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>
>I got zero response a few days ago!
>
>Some student has to have a suggestion of how to get the text from bookshare
>epub audio books when all the audio says is image or in example 1.4 and no,
>the dss office won't help when you are no longer a student.
>
>Bryan
>
>
>
>
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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Thu May 30 00:16:29 2019
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 17:16:29 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Transcribing recorded material into text
Message-ID: <6E370DD7-C526-46EB-A6C2-4F6319D0BE50@gmail.com>

Hi all,
It's the second day of my internship today, which has overall been great. I'm having a slight accessibility problem that I'd like to ask about on here, before I bring it to my internship supervisor's attention.
I have to transcribe a meeting from yesterday into text this week. I have mild hearing loss, so while the task is definitely very doable, I'm still prone to missing words.
The recording is in m4a format. I often need to go back and hear missed words. However, as the recording is 2 hours and 3 minutes long, adjusting the value will make it go up or down by 10 percent. This means it is very difficult to go back and try to hear a word.
Does anyone know how I can easily get a file like this to rewind and fast-forward by fewer percentage points? I was mainly using my Iphone, but the computer does this too.
Thanks,
Vejas 

From kolby12091988 at gmail.com  Thu May 30 01:28:27 2019
From: kolby12091988 at gmail.com (Kolby Garrison)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 21:28:27 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Transcribing recorded material into text
In-Reply-To: <6E370DD7-C526-46EB-A6C2-4F6319D0BE50@gmail.com>
References: <6E370DD7-C526-46EB-A6C2-4F6319D0BE50@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHog7edXkwpMoEMw-+FuwpxcC6BqS8Ev04L2UjmW8js6xvdFSA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, Vejas,
If you are using a computer running Windows, I would download the Winamp
audio player which will enable you to use your right and left arrow keys to
move through the audio in small increments.
Thank you,
Kolby

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:17 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> It's the second day of my internship today, which has overall been great.
> I'm having a slight accessibility problem that I'd like to ask about on
> here, before I bring it to my internship supervisor's attention.
> I have to transcribe a meeting from yesterday into text this week. I have
> mild hearing loss, so while the task is definitely very doable, I'm still
> prone to missing words.
> The recording is in m4a format. I often need to go back and hear missed
> words. However, as the recording is 2 hours and 3 minutes long, adjusting
> the value will make it go up or down by 10 percent. This means it is very
> difficult to go back and try to hear a word.
> Does anyone know how I can easily get a file like this to rewind and
> fast-forward by fewer percentage points? I was mainly using my Iphone, but
> the computer does this too.
> Thanks,
> Vejas
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From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Fri May 31 00:04:38 2019
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 19:04:38 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] May NABS Notes
Message-ID: <63A042A5-9438-4CFF-B1D1-ED57F25D2BF5@gmail.com>

Good Evening, Students, 

We hope you’re having a terrific Thursday. It’s that time again for the NABS Notes! Learn all about the latest happenings in May as well as upcoming events, using the following link: 

http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-may-2019

If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out. 



Respectfully, 
Matthew Gip
President | California Association of Blind Students 
Board Member | National Federation of the Blind of California 
Co-chair | National Association of Blind Students Outreach Committee 
Phone: (559) 375-2068
Email: matthewhgip at gmail.com
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nations blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want. 


From espinozaaaron94 at gmail.com  Fri May 31 08:02:27 2019
From: espinozaaaron94 at gmail.com (Aaron Espinoza)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 01:02:27 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] National convention Roommates
Message-ID: <4667e721-f9d0-7640-6a26-8e81e83a86f7@gmail.com>

Hello everyone I am looking for someone who needs male roommates for 
convention we got a room reserved already just that someone dropped out. 
The cost would be $160.



From johnawright98 at gmail.com  Fri May 31 08:34:48 2019
From: johnawright98 at gmail.com (johnawright98 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 04:34:48 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] National convention Roommates
In-Reply-To: <4667e721-f9d0-7640-6a26-8e81e83a86f7@gmail.com>
References: <4667e721-f9d0-7640-6a26-8e81e83a86f7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F4F4E695-AFE6-447D-9070-1C2EB26E2E48@gmail.com>

Hey, Aaron and all! 

You may find the new NFB-Conventions ListServe helpful in your roommate search. This is a newly-created list specifically for convention-related activities. If anyone is interested in signing up on that ListServe you can either go to:

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-conventions_nfbnet.org

or send an e-mail to nfb-conventions-request at nfbnet.org and put the word “subscribe” on the subject line.

Of course, you can also post here and find other students to share a room with as well. I hope this helps anyone looking for a roommate!

Cheers, 

Johna Wright
Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 
Social Media Chair, National Association of Blind Students
Director, ABLE Mercer

> On May 31, 2019, at 4:02 AM, Aaron Espinoza via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone I am looking for someone who needs male roommates for convention we got a room reserved already just that someone dropped out. The cost would be $160.
> 
> 
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From garywunder at me.com  Fri May 31 14:55:47 2019
From: garywunder at me.com (Gary Wunder)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 09:55:47 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Transcribing recorded material into text
In-Reply-To: <6E370DD7-C526-46EB-A6C2-4F6319D0BE50@gmail.com>
References: <6E370DD7-C526-46EB-A6C2-4F6319D0BE50@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005401d517c0$eef263c0$ccd72b40$@me.com>

If you have a Victor Stream, it should handle M4A and will let you jump back
five seconds. 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via
NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:16 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] Transcribing recorded material into text

Hi all,
It's the second day of my internship today, which has overall been great.
I'm having a slight accessibility problem that I'd like to ask about on
here, before I bring it to my internship supervisor's attention.
I have to transcribe a meeting from yesterday into text this week. I have
mild hearing loss, so while the task is definitely very doable, I'm still
prone to missing words.
The recording is in m4a format. I often need to go back and hear missed
words. However, as the recording is 2 hours and 3 minutes long, adjusting
the value will make it go up or down by 10 percent. This means it is very
difficult to go back and try to hear a word.
Does anyone know how I can easily get a file like this to rewind and
fast-forward by fewer percentage points? I was mainly using my Iphone, but
the computer does this too.
Thanks,
Vejas 
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