[NABS-L] NABS-L Digest, Vol 156, Issue 26
Lindsay Adair
queenlindsay1 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 31 02:51:13 UTC 2019
Dear NABS,
My name is Lindsay Adair, and in chemistry class, on my braille note touch, I am unable to write nucliar equations for Alpha, Betta and Gamma reactions. I am able to write chemical equations in Nemmith mode, but in order for me to write the nucliar, equations, I need to be able to write the chemical symbol for one element, an arrow, and two more chemical equations with a plus sign between them. When I try to do so on my touch, however, it does not look right to a sighted person. For now, I have been writing nucliar equwhns on the braille writer. Do any of you have a suggestion of how I can do them on the braille note without issue? If any of you have an idea, will you please email me at queenlindsay1 at gmail.com? Thank you.
Best regards,
Lindsay
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> 1. Re: vollunteering and small towns verses big towns or cities
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> 2. Re: Disclosure of Blindness (Nina Marranca)
> 3. Re: vollunteering and small towns verses big towns or cities
> (andrew edgcumbe)
> 4. Re: vollunteering and small towns verses big towns or cities
> (Carly Mihalakis)
> 5. Re: Employment Accessibility Obstacle (Carly Mihalakis)
> 6. Re: Disclosure of Blindness (Sandra Gayer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:40:09 -0400
> From: Nina Marranca <ninam0814 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] vollunteering and small towns verses big towns
> or cities
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> Good morning Andrew!
> I have done a variety of volunteer tasks, from working spaghetti dinners, to sorting donated clothes, to helping with church functions, to pushing into educational settings to speak about blindness and service dogs. I've also worked with the elderly; often, reading or talking to elderly patients does a lot to boost their mood and quality of care.
> I think it just comes down to being flexible. Much like finding a job, don't under estimate the connections those around you may offer. Communicate that you are looking for volunteer opportunities to everyone you know. Search online also, and once you have found one, do not be afraid to advocate for yourself and everything that you can do.
> You may also want to consider creating your own community service project, such as recruiting local businesses and hosting a hat, glove, and coat drive before Winter gets under way.
> I hope this helps!
> Best,
> nina
>
> Nina Marranca
> Moderator | National Association of Blind Students Mailing List
> Co-chair | Communications Committee
> Ninam0814 at gmail.com
>
> ?On 10/27/19, 23:25, "NABS-L on behalf of andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L" <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi My name is Andrew from Ontario Canada. I just wanted to ask few
> things. I live in a small town and that is a real struggle mostly
> because I am having a hard time finding vollunteer type stuff. I been
> having trouble finding vollunteer work and stuff like that ways to
> vollunteer that is. I have either been told i need somebody with me
> or they just plane don't communicate with me about things fully.
> Anyway that has been a real struggle for me I will say I am not the
> most skilled or experienced blind person. I am not sure how you all
> have gone about doing vollunteer type stuff but what troubles have you
> run into if any like what were you able to do if you have vollunteered
> or are vollunteering what are you doing or have you done? I have been
> having trouble finding the help I need again i live in a small town.
> I did go to a employmentsupport agency and they basically said they
> don't have resources to help me. she says i need computer and iphone
> training I do realize allot of things or jobs or whatever needs the
> technology but as far as vollunteering goes i feel there is still ways
> to vollunteer without having to be an exburt on technology or to good
> at it far as vollunteering goes. I don't know if any of you would
> have pointers or not when it comes to finding ways to vollunteering or
> not. The other thing is this in your experiences are bigger cities
> better for blind people or does it really make any differences big or
> small when it comes to vollunter opportunities or just opportunities
> for things over all. transportation wise it isn't to bad as there is
> a van that does come to my door but i am looking for some pointers if
> there is any on vollunteering mostly. like as far as big or small
> towns or cities do you feel there is more opportunity in bigger center
> for things like vollunteering or whatever?
>
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> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:44:45 -0400
> From: Nina Marranca <ninam0814 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Disclosure of Blindness
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> Hi, Abby!
> I don't think there is just one right answer to this question. Personally, I would not indicate your blindness on the application. Submit your resume and other materials, just as anyone else would. However, depending on the degree of sight that you have, it may not be feasible to avoid the topic at an interview. I would disclose this knowledge at that time if necessary, especially if you feel that you will need accommodations. Furthermore, your employer may have questions about how you will complete the job as a blind person. These questions aren't exactly the most fair, but it may happen. Sometimes, it's better to get that out of the way ahead of time, but like I said before, it's about finding which approach works best for you. __
> Best of luck!
> nina
>
> Nina Marranca
> Moderator | National Association of Blind Students Mailing List
> Co-chair | Communications Committee
> Ninam0814 at gmail.com
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> ?On 10/27/19, 20:12, "NABS-L on behalf of Abby Duffy via NABS-L" <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hello, I?m applying for a job at a after school program at one of the elementary schools in my area, and I was wondering how or if I should disclose my blindness. I know the can will make it obvious, but I just wondered if any of you guys have experience of if I should disclose my disability or what I should do.
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> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:50:52 -0400
> From: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] vollunteering and small towns verses big towns
> or cities
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> Hi thanks what i have been doing is that I first am not really the
> most experienced blind person when it comes to saying the right things
> to get in somewhere or advocating that is my problem. I have tried
> for example to go in some places to do friendly visiting but
> sometimes i am either told i need somebody with me which is hard to
> find or they fail to communicate with me commun have those type of
> communications one time with a place i too mom went with me and they
> would say something then this is over at a next town over from me but
> other wise there was no communication with me. about anything. and
> when i asked for clarification paperwork there was no responce in a
> sence. it is a small town where I am andi have not had much luck with
> getting into places.
>
> On 10/28/19, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Good morning Andrew!
> > I have done a variety of volunteer tasks, from working spaghetti dinners, to
> > sorting donated clothes, to helping with church functions, to pushing into
> > educational settings to speak about blindness and service dogs. I've also
> > worked with the elderly; often, reading or talking to elderly patients does
> > a lot to boost their mood and quality of care.
> > I think it just comes down to being flexible. Much like finding a job,
> > don't under estimate the connections those around you may offer. Communicate
> > that you are looking for volunteer opportunities to everyone you know.
> > Search online also, and once you have found one, do not be afraid to
> > advocate for yourself and everything that you can do.
> > You may also want to consider creating your own community service project,
> > such as recruiting local businesses and hosting a hat, glove, and coat drive
> > before Winter gets under way.
> > I hope this helps!
> > Best,
> > nina
> >
> > Nina Marranca
> > Moderator | National Association of Blind Students Mailing List
> > Co-chair | Communications Committee
> > Ninam0814 at gmail.com
> >
> > ?On 10/27/19, 23:25, "NABS-L on behalf of andrew edgcumbe via NABS-L"
> > <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi My name is Andrew from Ontario Canada. I just wanted to ask few
> > things. I live in a small town and that is a real struggle mostly
> > because I am having a hard time finding vollunteer type stuff. I been
> > having trouble finding vollunteer work and stuff like that ways to
> > vollunteer that is. I have either been told i need somebody with me
> > or they just plane don't communicate with me about things fully.
> > Anyway that has been a real struggle for me I will say I am not the
> > most skilled or experienced blind person. I am not sure how you all
> > have gone about doing vollunteer type stuff but what troubles have you
> > run into if any like what were you able to do if you have vollunteered
> > or are vollunteering what are you doing or have you done? I have been
> > having trouble finding the help I need again i live in a small town.
> > I did go to a employmentsupport agency and they basically said they
> > don't have resources to help me. she says i need computer and iphone
> > training I do realize allot of things or jobs or whatever needs the
> > technology but as far as vollunteering goes i feel there is still ways
> > to vollunteer without having to be an exburt on technology or to good
> > at it far as vollunteering goes. I don't know if any of you would
> > have pointers or not when it comes to finding ways to vollunteering or
> > not. The other thing is this in your experiences are bigger cities
> > better for blind people or does it really make any differences big or
> > small when it comes to vollunter opportunities or just opportunities
> > for things over all. transportation wise it isn't to bad as there is
> > a van that does come to my door but i am looking for some pointers if
> > there is any on vollunteering mostly. like as far as big or small
> > towns or cities do you feel there is more opportunity in bigger center
> > for things like vollunteering or whatever?
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 05:40:14 -0700
> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] vollunteering and small towns verses big towns
> or cities
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> Good morning, Andrew,
>
> Good morning, Andrew,
> Unfortunately for us, every thing's turning out to be tech/ffine
> motor-oriented, posing still an additional barrier to access. I do
> use a SmartPhone but fortunately, it has a capability of its
> functionality being triggered with voice. since my own facility with
> fine motor is ineffectual at best, I am a little reliant on my
> roommate's whom is also total but possesses facility with a fine
> motor demension of occupational work.08:24 PM 10/27/2019, andrew
> edgcumbe via NABS-L wrote:
> >Hi My name is Andrew from Ontario Canada. I just wanted to ask few
> >things. I live in a small town and that is a real struggle mostly
> >because I am having a hard time finding vollunteer type stuff. I been
> >having trouble finding vollunteer work and stuff like that ways to
> >vollunteer that is. I have either been told i need somebody with me
> >or they just plane don't communicate with me about things fully.
> >Anyway that has been a real struggle for me I will say I am not the
> >most skilled or experienced blind person. I am not sure how you all
> >have gone about doing vollunteer type stuff but what troubles have you
> >run into if any like what were you able to do if you have vollunteered
> >or are vollunteering what are you doing or have you done? I have been
> >having trouble finding the help I need again i live in a small town.
> >I did go to a employmentsupport agency and they basically said they
> >don't have resources to help me. she says i need computer and iphone
> >training I do realize allot of things or jobs or whatever needs the
> >technology but as far as vollunteering goes i feel there is still ways
> >to vollunteer without having to be an exburt on technology or to good
> >at it far as vollunteering goes. I don't know if any of you would
> >have pointers or not when it comes to finding ways to vollunteering or
> >not. The other thing is this in your experiences are bigger cities
> >better for blind people or does it really make any differences big or
> >small when it comes to vollunter opportunities or just opportunities
> >for things over all. transportation wise it isn't to bad as there is
> >a van that does come to my door but i am looking for some pointers if
> >there is any on vollunteering mostly. like as far as big or small
> >towns or cities do you feel there is more opportunity in bigger center
> >for things like vollunteering or whatever?
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 09:48:48 -0700
> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Employment Accessibility Obstacle
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> Good morning, Kiana,
>
> One other thing you might try is to address
> potential liabilities during garbage time, that
> is, before anybody's keeping track, While it's
> still safely off the record, before they're
> watching how it is you go about doing your job.
> Don't worry so much about using their record
> system . That'll take care of itself,
> particularly if the software was designed in
> house. Who knows, having a sighted reader enter
> record information into their special platform
> could in fact, deepen an understanding of the
> material, not to mention spark discussions with
> your social work colleagues on how best to work the case.
> Car
> >situation. I???ve been looking for a job for the
> >past 4 months, and I may finally be at a point
> >where I???m going to get an offer. It???s an
> >incredible position in a city I???m in love
> >with. I went in for the interview last
> >Wednesday, and the supervisor contacted me on
> >Friday to ask some follow-up questions. They
> >mainly consisted of whether I felt safe with the
> >clients. I told her I did. She???s also
> >concerned about accessibility when it comes to
> >me using their electronic health record to input
> >client information. I???ll be a clinical social
> >worker, and this is a therapist position, so
> >using the EHR is going to be a big part of it.
> >Their record isn???t mainstream. They developed
> >it within the agency, so the supervisor has been
> >trying to contact their IT people to see if they
> >know anything about the usability with screen
> >reading software. She called me again today and
> >told me that she???s still trying to find
> >answers, and she doesn???t want to extend an
> >official offer until she knows something. I
> >absolutely do not want this to fall through due
> >to that unknown factor. I???ve tried contacting
> >my counselor at Division of Services for the
> >Blind. I feel like I???m on shaky ground and
> >would rather have guidance and someone in my
> >corner before proceeding. Unfortunately, my
> >counselor has been on leave since the end of
> >May, and the person who is covering my case has
> >not answered my calls or returned voicemails.
> >This is a very time sensitive situation, and
> >it???s something I want to be on top of. The
> >accessibility may be an obstacle, but I???ve
> >been able to problem-solve in the past to get
> >around it. Has anyone else been in this
> >situation? Any suggestions, advice, or guidance
> >would be greatly appreciated, especially from
> >people who may be in a health-related field and
> >have encountered electronic records. The one at
> >my graduate internship was inaccessible, but I
> >was able to do assessments and notes via word
> >document. The secretary would upload the
> >documents. I could present this, but that would
> >be putting additional work on another employee
> >and it???s not ideal, especially since this is
> >an actual employment position. I???m determined
> >to make it this last step and land this job!
> >Warm regards, Kiana Harlan
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> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 18:04:23 +0000
> From: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
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> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Disclosure of Blindness
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> Hello,
> I always disclose and I use my disability as an advantage, explaining
> why I am the best person for the job. It's quite difficult to separate
> my skills from my disability anyway. I could hardly talk about being
> able to read and write in 11 Braille codes, without hinting why I know
> so much about Braille, for example. My CV has a lot of jobs like this;
> Braille Music Teacher, Braille product consultancy, I have worked and
> continue to work for the RNIB and other disability focused
> organisations. If you were reading my CV, you would probably ask
> yourself why there was such a high volume of Braille interest, if I
> could see. If your disability is not a hidden disability, your
> application and interview are your opportunities to sell yourself as a
> package. If you wait to be, as it were, found out, you place yourself
> in an awkward position and in a bad light. Why do that when you can
> frame it in a positive way?
>
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
>
> On 10/28/19, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Hi, Abby!
> > I don't think there is just one right answer to this question. Personally,
> > I would not indicate your blindness on the application. Submit your resume
> > and other materials, just as anyone else would. However, depending on the
> > degree of sight that you have, it may not be feasible to avoid the topic at
> > an interview. I would disclose this knowledge at that time if necessary,
> > especially if you feel that you will need accommodations. Furthermore, your
> > employer may have questions about how you will complete the job as a blind
> > person. These questions aren't exactly the most fair, but it may happen.
> > Sometimes, it's better to get that out of the way ahead of time, but like I
> > said before, it's about finding which approach works best for you. __
> > Best of luck!
> > nina
> >
> > Nina Marranca
> > Moderator | National Association of Blind Students Mailing List
> > Co-chair | Communications Committee
> > Ninam0814 at gmail.com
> >
> > ?On 10/27/19, 20:12, "NABS-L on behalf of Abby Duffy via NABS-L"
> > <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I?m applying for a job at a after school program at one of the
> > elementary schools in my area, and I was wondering how or if I should
> > disclose my blindness. I know the can will make it obvious, but I just
> > wondered if any of you guys have experience of if I should disclose my
> > disability or what I should do.
> >
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