[NABS-L] Please read if you haven't yet updated to iOs 13

[Karl Martin Adam]

Perhaps=20we=20can=20let=20people=20use=20what=20works=20for=20them=20witho=
ut=20
insisting=20that=20everyone=20needs=20to=20use=20something=20or=20no=20one=
=20should=20
use=20that=20thing?

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Littlefield,=20Tyler=20via=20NABS-L"=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2023=20Sep=202019=2009:07:50=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[NABS-L]=20Please=20read=20if=20you=20haven't=20yet=20upda=
ted=20to=20
iOs=2013

I'm=20a=20bit=20baffled=20by=20this=20email.=20I=20can't=20understand=20par=
ts=20of=20it,=20
but=20the
concerning=20issue=20for=20me=20here=20is=20that=20you're=20pushing=20KNFB=
=20reader.=20
No=20one
should=20be=20using=20it;=20it's=20fallen=20behind,=20and=20there=20are=20m=
any=20many=20
better
alternatives.=20Just=20because=20we=20push=20a=20program=20and=20an=20app=20=
in=20an
organization=20shouldn't=20mean=20that=20people=20are=20stuck=20using=20it=
=20if=20it=20
doesn't
compete=20with=20other=20applications.

As=20a=20blind=20person,=20I=20have=20many=20tools=20in=20my=20independence=
=20toolbox,=20
many=20of
which=20are=20on=20my=20phone;=20Voicedream=20scanner,=20Seeing=20AI,=20etc=
.=20I=20will=20
use
whatever=20works=20best=20for=20me=20to=20allow=20me=20to=20be=20productive=
=20and=20work=20
well,
and=20being=20beholden=20to=20a=20single=20app=20which=20has=20fallen=20far=
=20behind=20in=20
this
space=20because=20an=20organization=20which=20I=20belong=20to=20pushes=20it=
=20is=20not=20
my=20idea
of=20productive=20nor=20independent.

On=209/22/2019=209:43=20PM,=20maurice.mines=20via=20NABS-L=20wrote:
=20Hi,=20have=20you=20tried=20using=20Knfbreader?=20That=E2=80=99s=20what=20=
you=20should=20be=20
using!
=20I=20know=20it=E2=80=99s=20great=20and=20wonderful=20and=20supposedly=20c=
old=20or=20use=20
upstate=20one
=20else=20uses=20but=20we=20have=20worked=20tirelessly=20in=20this=20organi=
zation=20to=20
try
=20and=20and=20make=20it=20work=20for=20all=20of=20us=20and=20the=20blind=20=
as=20community=20at
=20large.=20I=20found=20this=20application=20to=20be=20outstanding.=20Just=
=20a=20
suggestion.

=20If=20your=20initial=20version=20of=20wire=20was=2013=20some=20problems,=
=20from=20what=20
I
=20tested=20obviously=20issues=20are=20actually=20not=20that=20large.=20Als=
o=20baron=20
mind
=20that=20the=20operating=20system=20world=20get=20and=20update=20on=20Tues=
day.=20So=20if=20
you
=20can=20get=20through=20Monday=20with=20some=20of=20these=20work=20arounds=
,=20whenever=20
you
=20get=20a=20free=20moment,=20more=20like=20about=2020=20minutes=20to=20hal=
f=20an=20hour=20or=20
so,
=20you=20can=20update=20your=20phone=20and=20hopefully=20things=20will=20be=
=20
substantially
=20better.=20That=E2=80=99s=20all=20I=20can=20say=20at=20this=20time.

=20Sincerely=20Maurice=20Mines.
=20Check=20anyone=20wish=20to=20ask=20me=20questions=20off=20List,=20there=
=20are=20two=20
ways
=20reaching=20me.=20The=20first=20is=20calling=20a=20relay=20number=20for=20=
the=20deaf,=20
that
=20number=20is=20661-246-3110.
=20Or=20you=20may=20send=20email=20toEmail:=20board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org
=20<mailto:board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org




=20On=2022=20Sep=202019,=20at=2014:44,=20Vejas=20Vasiliauskas=20via=20NABS-=
L=20wrote:

=20Hi=20All,
=20I=20hope=20you=20have=20had=20a=20great=20start=20to=20the=20school=20ye=
ar.
=20I=20updated=20to=20iOS=2013=20from=20iOS=2012=20on=20my=20iPhone=208.=20=
I'm=20experiencing=20
some
=20VoiceOver=20issues=20which,=20although=20I=20can=20mostly=20work=20aroun=
d=20them,=20
would
=20have=20made=20me=20reconsider=20updating,=20so=20I=20would=20highly=20re=
commend,=20
for
=20these=20of=20you=20who=20haven't=20yet=20updated,=20not=20to=20do=20so.
=20First,=20you=20can=20no=20longer=20read=20PDF=20files=20on=20the=20Apple=
=20Books=20app.=20
I
=20used=20to=20love=20doing=20this=20because=20it=20allowed=20me=20to=20nav=
igate=20files
=20easily,=20search=20for=20page=20numbers,=20and=20only=20show=20one=20pag=
e=20at=20a=20
time.
=20The=20phone=20will=20just=20freeze=20at=20the=20text.=20(Note=20that=20b=
ooks=20from=20
the
=20Apple=20store=20will=20still=20work).=20I'm=20fortunate=20to=20have=20a=
=20
Braillenote
=20which=20will=20allow=20me=20to=20access=20the=20relatively=20large=20tex=
tbook=20I=20
need,
=20but=20I=20would=20still,=20in=20hindsight,=20not=20have=20updated=20yet.=

=20The=20second=20thing=20(although=20this=20is=20much=20more=20minor)=20is=
=20that=20you=20
can't
=20log=20in=20to=20Amazon=20any=20longer=20with=20the=20iPhone.=20The=20pas=
sword=20field=20
goes
=20blank=20after=20you=20type=20it=20in,=20so=20that=20the=20only=20two=20w=
ays=20to=20log=20in=20
would
=20be=20with=20a=20computer=20or=20with=20sighted=20assistance.
=20I=20just=20thought=20I'd=20let=20you=20all=20know.
=20Vejas
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