From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 00:37:20 2020
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:37:20 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Board Meeting
Message-ID: <2F2403A7-5A85-4AD6-A878-29B08432E7DD@gmail.com>

Hello Friends!

Are you feeling energized after our national convention? Ready to get the new school year started? Join us for our August meeting of the board of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students. We have lots of exciting announcements including news on our new Monday Madness nights, our second issue of the Minnesota Bulletin, and so much more! As always, bring your energy, and bring your ideas! We look forward to seeing you this weekend! 
Contact any member of the MNABS board with any questions. Details for accessing the zoom meeting are pasted below. 
Samantha Flax
President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 

Topic: MNABS August Meeting
Time: Aug 2, 2020 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting
https://umn.zoom.us/j/96210355376?pwd=ZmRYMy8zRkJCWkhXWFpIZFc2TUNnZz09

Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
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Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

From maurice at maurice-amines.com  Sat Aug  1 01:48:03 2020
From: maurice at maurice-amines.com (maurice-amines.com)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:48:03 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Board Meeting
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References: <2F2403A7-5A85-4AD6-A878-29B08432E7DD@gmail.com>
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Will this be captioned for  deaf blind students who may not abled to hear things?

> On Jul 31, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Cody Beardslee via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Friends!
> 
> Are you feeling energized after our national convention? Ready to get the new school year started? Join us for our August meeting of the board of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students. We have lots of exciting announcements including news on our new Monday Madness nights, our second issue of the Minnesota Bulletin, and so much more! As always, bring your energy, and bring your ideas! We look forward to seeing you this weekend! 
> Contact any member of the MNABS board with any questions. Details for accessing the zoom meeting are pasted below. 
> Samantha Flax
> President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
> 
> Topic: MNABS August Meeting
> Time: Aug 2, 2020 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://umn.zoom.us/j/96210355376?pwd=ZmRYMy8zRkJCWkhXWFpIZFc2TUNnZz09
> 
> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
> Passcode: 5KUJh3
> One tap mobile
> +16513728299,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (St. Paul)
> +13126266799,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (Chicago)
> 
> Dial by your location
>       +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
>       +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>       +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
>       +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>       +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>       +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>       +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
> Passcode: 704453
> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/am2V9qWdJ
> 
> Join by SIP
> 96210355376 at zoomcrc.com
> 
> Join by H.323
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> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
> Passcode: 704453
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
> 100 East 22nd Street
> Minneapolis, MN  55404
> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 
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From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 02:52:11 2020
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:52:11 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <1C561276-028A-4A30-A416-FCC8549CB46C@maurice-amines.com>
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Hello, 

We have not provided captioning before but are looking into our options for providing it in the future. We want to make sure everyone can have the ability to attend our meetings.   As soon as we have more information we will provide it.  Feel free to reach out with anymore thoughts or questions 

Thanks 

Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

> On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:49 PM, maurice-amines.com via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Will this be captioned for  deaf blind students who may not abled to hear things?
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Cody Beardslee via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Friends!
>> 
>> Are you feeling energized after our national convention? Ready to get the new school year started? Join us for our August meeting of the board of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students. We have lots of exciting announcements including news on our new Monday Madness nights, our second issue of the Minnesota Bulletin, and so much more! As always, bring your energy, and bring your ideas! We look forward to seeing you this weekend! 
>> Contact any member of the MNABS board with any questions. Details for accessing the zoom meeting are pasted below. 
>> Samantha Flax
>> President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
>> 
>> Topic: MNABS August Meeting
>> Time: Aug 2, 2020 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>> 
>> Join Zoom Meeting
>> https://umn.zoom.us/j/96210355376?pwd=ZmRYMy8zRkJCWkhXWFpIZFc2TUNnZz09
>> 
>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>> Passcode: 5KUJh3
>> One tap mobile
>> +16513728299,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (St. Paul)
>> +13126266799,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (Chicago)
>> 
>> Dial by your location
>>      +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
>>      +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>>      +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
>>      +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>>      +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>>      +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>>      +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>> Passcode: 704453
>> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/am2V9qWdJ
>> 
>> Join by SIP
>> 96210355376 at zoomcrc.com
>> 
>> Join by H.323
>> 162.255.37.11 (US West)
>> 162.255.36.11 (US East)
>> 221.122.88.195 (China)
>> 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)
>> 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)
>> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
>> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
>> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
>> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
>> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
>> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>> Passcode: 704453
>> 
>> Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
>> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
>> 100 East 22nd Street
>> Minneapolis, MN  55404
>> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
>> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From schoi09 at outlook.com  Sat Aug  1 03:47:25 2020
From: schoi09 at outlook.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 03:47:25 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
In-Reply-To: <9f692cb8-79e2-9552-c5ce-ce2d3ca72690@gmail.com>
References: <9f692cb8-79e2-9552-c5ce-ce2d3ca72690@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR19MB3688685125EF4EBFC2AEADF7AB4F0@CH2PR19MB3688.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Justin,

I'm so happy that you've used this list serv to reach out about marching band. I've been a part of my high school marching band all four years, and have also played in regular symphonic style band and other small ensembles as well. Please have the student contact me directly and I'd be more than happy to assist in this area.

Thanks,
Seyoon

Seyoon Choi
President: Missouri Association of Blind Students
Co-chair of Outreach Committee
National Association of Blind Students
schoi09 at outlook.com
(314) 650-8306

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> On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all!
> 
> Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person can do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in this area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any experiences and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make sure this student has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
> 
> Lets turn her dream into a reality!
> 
> 
> 
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From tmbratcher1999 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  1 15:41:25 2020
From: tmbratcher1999 at yahoo.com (Tyron Bratcher)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:41:25 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS-L Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
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I have participated in marching band in both high school and college and would be happy to talk to The student or her mom about how blind people can successfully participate in this activity. My phone number is 443-929-0273 and my email address is tmbratcher1999 at yahoo.com

Sent from my iPhone

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>   1. Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students (Justin Heard)
>   2. Re: Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students (Gene Kim)
>   3. Re: Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students (Kinshuk Tella)
>   4. Re: Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students (Sabrina Kimbrough)
>   5. Re: Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students (Abigail Duffy)
>   6. MNABS Board Meeting (Cody Beardslee)
>   7. Re: MNABS Board Meeting (maurice-amines.com)
>   8. Re: MNABS Board Meeting (Cody Beardslee)
>   9. Re: Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students (Seyoon Choi)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:32:15 -0400
> From: Justin Heard <braillemasterjustin at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
> Message-ID: <9f692cb8-79e2-9552-c5ce-ce2d3ca72690 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Hello all!
> 
> Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in 
> participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person can 
> do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in this 
> area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any experiences 
> and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make sure this student 
> has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
> 
> Lets turn her dream into a reality!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:37:22 -0700
> From: Gene Kim <gene.sh.kim at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
> Message-ID:
>    <CAEvYTGMM8raX2LNkKS7zD_iKMmpkLa9rVpaXq8-MRjLLsX_OpQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Hey Justin,
> 
> A friend of mine did marching band in high school, and I'm sure he'd love
> to share how he/the band approached it. Could you send me a private e-mail?
> gene.sh.kim at stanford.edu
> 
> Kindly,
> Gene
> --
> Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. Symbolic Systems | Stanfored 2023
> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:33 AM Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all!
>> 
>> Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in
>> participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person can
>> do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in this
>> area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any experiences
>> and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make sure this student
>> has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
>> 
>> Lets turn her dream into a reality!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:06:29 -0400
> From: Kinshuk Tella <kinshuk.tella at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
> Message-ID:
>    <CAFXV1qWrXWHKxaWkB_zkkuK7MSo=Vaih26r=zZ-6J+TdTqb_KQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
>     I am glad you came to this platform to seek contacts about this. I am
> myself a blind student and am heavily involved with marching band and the
> performwence arts in general. I have 6 years of marching band under my belt
> and have done both highschool and college. I would be more than happy to
> speak to this student and family about the activity and going about
> pursuing it. Please feel free to contact me at 937-708-9930 or
> kinshuk.tella at gmail.com.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 12:33 PM Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all!
>> 
>> Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in
>> participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person can
>> do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in this
>> area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any experiences
>> and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make sure this student
>> has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
>> 
>> Lets turn her dream into a reality!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
> -- 
> Kinshuk Tella
> He/Him/His
> 937-708-9930
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:27:28 -0500
> From: Sabrina Kimbrough <princesssabrina924 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
> Message-ID: <E88CAD8D-E4D0-4410-A173-8755F4C52776 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Justin, I did band a little and my siblings were heavily in band. If you want, we can exchange e-mains and go from there. My e-mail is princesssabrina at gmail.com.
> 
> Whether you can or you can?t , you?re right! Henry Ford
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello all!
>> 
>> Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person can do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in this area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any experiences and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make sure this student has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
>> 
>> Lets turn her dream into a reality!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 14:02:45 -0400
> From: Abigail Duffy <abigaileduffy at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
> Message-ID:
>    <CAMt73k8rLsKVynvDA1ZVWjC=8p24Pqbi6VQhpc2EzXR6eRbRsA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> I don?t know if this helps, but in my experience, and what my friends have
> said, usually the blind person will have a buddy who also plays the same
> instrument. You will either have like locked arms with that person
> depending on how you play your instrument, or they will kind of tell you if
> you need to do turns or what have you. Also in marching band you walk in a
> pretty particular pace, and you practice it a lot, so it?s never been An
> issue for me when I did.
> I also never did this in marching band, but they could probably ask the
> person standing in front of them to put bright duck tape on the back of
> their uniform, if they had some residual vision.
> Hope this helped
> Abby Duffy
> 
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 12:37 PM Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all!
>> 
>> Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in
>> participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person can
>> do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in this
>> area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any experiences
>> and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make sure this student
>> has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
>> 
>> Lets turn her dream into a reality!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>> 
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/abigaileduffy%40gmail.com
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:37:20 -0500
> From: Cody Beardslee <codybeardslee at gmail.com>
> To: National mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: students at nfbmn.org, Cody Beardslee <cbeardslee at blindinc.org>
> Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Board Meeting
> Message-ID: <2F2403A7-5A85-4AD6-A878-29B08432E7DD at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hello Friends!
> 
> Are you feeling energized after our national convention? Ready to get the new school year started? Join us for our August meeting of the board of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students. We have lots of exciting announcements including news on our new Monday Madness nights, our second issue of the Minnesota Bulletin, and so much more! As always, bring your energy, and bring your ideas! We look forward to seeing you this weekend! 
> Contact any member of the MNABS board with any questions. Details for accessing the zoom meeting are pasted below. 
> Samantha Flax
> President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
> 
> Topic: MNABS August Meeting
> Time: Aug 2, 2020 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://umn.zoom.us/j/96210355376?pwd=ZmRYMy8zRkJCWkhXWFpIZFc2TUNnZz09
> 
> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
> Passcode: 5KUJh3
> One tap mobile
> +16513728299,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (St. Paul)
> +13126266799,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (Chicago)
> 
> Dial by your location
>       +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
>       +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>       +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
>       +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>       +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>       +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>       +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
> Passcode: 704453
> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/am2V9qWdJ
> 
> Join by SIP
> 96210355376 at zoomcrc.com
> 
> Join by H.323
> 162.255.37.11 (US West)
> 162.255.36.11 (US East)
> 221.122.88.195 (China)
> 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)
> 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)
> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
> Passcode: 704453
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
> 100 East 22nd Street
> Minneapolis, MN  55404
> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:48:03 -0700
> From: "maurice-amines.com" <maurice at maurice-amines.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] MNABS Board Meeting
> Message-ID: <1C561276-028A-4A30-A416-FCC8549CB46C at maurice-amines.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Will this be captioned for  deaf blind students who may not abled to hear things?
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Cody Beardslee via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Friends!
>> 
>> Are you feeling energized after our national convention? Ready to get the new school year started? Join us for our August meeting of the board of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students. We have lots of exciting announcements including news on our new Monday Madness nights, our second issue of the Minnesota Bulletin, and so much more! As always, bring your energy, and bring your ideas! We look forward to seeing you this weekend! 
>> Contact any member of the MNABS board with any questions. Details for accessing the zoom meeting are pasted below.
>> Samantha Flax
>> President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
>> 
>> Topic: MNABS August Meeting
>> Time: Aug 2, 2020 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>> 
>> Join Zoom Meeting
>> https://umn.zoom.us/j/96210355376?pwd=ZmRYMy8zRkJCWkhXWFpIZFc2TUNnZz09
>> 
>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>> Passcode: 5KUJh3
>> One tap mobile
>> +16513728299,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (St. Paul)
>> +13126266799,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (Chicago)
>> 
>> Dial by your location
>>      +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
>>      +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>>      +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
>>      +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>>      +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>>      +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>>      +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>> Passcode: 704453
>> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/am2V9qWdJ
>> 
>> Join by SIP
>> 96210355376 at zoomcrc.com
>> 
>> Join by H.323
>> 162.255.37.11 (US West)
>> 162.255.36.11 (US East)
>> 221.122.88.195 (China)
>> 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)
>> 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)
>> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
>> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
>> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
>> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
>> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
>> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>> Passcode: 704453
>> 
>> Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
>> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
>> 100 East 22nd Street
>> Minneapolis, MN  55404
>> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
>> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:52:11 -0500
> From: Cody Beardslee <codybeardslee at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "maurice-amines.com" <maurice at maurice-amines.com>,
>    students at nfbmn.org
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] MNABS Board Meeting
> Message-ID: <351D6AD7-8575-4F0A-972E-D77D340EB164 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> We have not provided captioning before but are looking into our options for providing it in the future. We want to make sure everyone can have the ability to attend our meetings.   As soon as we have more information we will provide it.  Feel free to reach out with anymore thoughts or questions 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:49 PM, maurice-amines.com via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Will this be captioned for  deaf blind students who may not abled to hear things?
>> 
>>>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Cody Beardslee via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Friends!
>>> 
>>> Are you feeling energized after our national convention? Ready to get the new school year started? Join us for our August meeting of the board of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students. We have lots of exciting announcements including news on our new Monday Madness nights, our second issue of the Minnesota Bulletin, and so much more! As always, bring your energy, and bring your ideas! We look forward to seeing you this weekend! 
>>> Contact any member of the MNABS board with any questions. Details for accessing the zoom meeting are pasted below. 
>>> Samantha Flax
>>> President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
>>> 
>>> Topic: MNABS August Meeting
>>> Time: Aug 2, 2020 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>> 
>>> Join Zoom Meeting
>>> https://umn.zoom.us/j/96210355376?pwd=ZmRYMy8zRkJCWkhXWFpIZFc2TUNnZz09
>>> 
>>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>>> Passcode: 5KUJh3
>>> One tap mobile
>>> +16513728299,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (St. Paul)
>>> +13126266799,,96210355376#,,,,,,0#,,704453# US (Chicago)
>>> 
>>> Dial by your location
>>>     +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
>>>     +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>>>     +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
>>>     +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>>>     +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>>>     +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>>>     +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
>>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>>> Passcode: 704453
>>> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/am2V9qWdJ
>>> 
>>> Join by SIP
>>> 96210355376 at zoomcrc.com
>>> 
>>> Join by H.323
>>> 162.255.37.11 (US West)
>>> 162.255.36.11 (US East)
>>> 221.122.88.195 (China)
>>> 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)
>>> 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)
>>> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
>>> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
>>> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
>>> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
>>> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
>>> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
>>> Meeting ID: 962 1035 5376
>>> Passcode: 704453
>>> 
>>> Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
>>> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
>>> 100 East 22nd Street
>>> Minneapolis, MN  55404
>>> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
>>> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/maurice%40maurice-amines.com
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 03:47:25 +0000
> From: Seyoon Choi <schoi09 at outlook.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
> Message-ID:
>    <CH2PR19MB3688685125EF4EBFC2AEADF7AB4F0 at CH2PR19MB3688.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
> I'm so happy that you've used this list serv to reach out about marching band. I've been a part of my high school marching band all four years, and have also played in regular symphonic style band and other small ensembles as well. Please have the student contact me directly and I'd be more than happy to assist in this area.
> 
> Thanks,
> Seyoon
> 
> Seyoon Choi
> President: Missouri Association of Blind Students
> Co-chair of Outreach Committee
> National Association of Blind Students
> schoi09 at outlook.com
> (314) 650-8306
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Justin Heard via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello all!
>> 
>> Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person can do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in this area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any experiences and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make sure this student has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
>> 
>> Lets turn her dream into a reality!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/schoi09%40outlook.com
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Subject: Digest Footer
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> **************************************



From alishag.important2018 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 14:33:07 2020
From: alishag.important2018 at gmail.com (Alisha Geary)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 09:33:07 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
Message-ID: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
strange cry for help.

Kind regards,
Alisha

From princesssabrina924 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 15:11:28 2020
From: princesssabrina924 at gmail.com (Sabrina Kimbrough)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:11:28 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
In-Reply-To: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AB5B4675-70D5-4B83-B3F1-93A0D55C627F@gmail.com>

Alisha,First of all, you did get props on comedy and that is a good thing. As far as college goes, a few things...1. Find your social and academic footing. Socially, find people and groups  to connect with. Your roommate /for mates are a good place to start Az long as you have one connection, that will make a difference. Academically, find your study groove. Some people do better with classes in the morning and others do better in the afternoon. Some study better in the morning others At night. .  2. Take care of yourself.  Don’t put pressure on yourself by feeling like you have to complete your work in one sitting. Take breaks and do bits of it daily. Also Commit to having some you time with no school. Whether that is a day or portions  

  of every day, it will make a difference. Lastly, counseling is not a bad thing.  
3. Your classes.  If you have your schedule, introduce yourself to the professors. Most of them appreciate it and are willing to help. Also get your syllabi’s as soon af possible and copy all the assignment dates. Lastly connect with the ADA office and research librarian.  I know this is a lot, but I  Hope it helps you.Whether you can or you can’t , you’re right! Henry Ford

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/princesssabrina924%40gmail.com


From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  2 15:11:55 2020
From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:11:55 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
In-Reply-To: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37674FC2-8183-42DE-A9AB-751BB2EDB78B@yahoo.com>

Hi Alisha, 

Although, I'll be a second semester freshmen, I would like to help you out. Get involved in different groups if you can. You will make friends in the clubs, societies, and/or other gatherings, but of course, you'll need to follow whatever health guidance the college will have. It is helpful to participate in the student activities that the college comes up with since many people will go to those events. Try not to be shy, which is sometimes harder for me, but it's worth getting out of your shell and doing it. Sometimes, as blind people, we must be the first ones to approach people, so I would suggest sometimes starting the conversations. Depending on the people and the circumstances, you might be able to ask for people's phone numbers so that if you need something or would just like to hang out with some new friends, you'll be able to more likely reach them. One other thing. Make sure to study and to have some time to relax/have fun. It can be difficult to balance, but you can do it! 
I hope that helps, 
Ahbee Orton  

Vice President, AABS  
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ahbeeorton%40yahoo.com

From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 15:11:57 2020
From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 11:11:57 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
In-Reply-To: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93874C8B-2D94-4147-8111-3700B7C7384C@gmail.com>

Hi Alisha,
I hope you’re well. College is a great new chapter to be starting, and I’m happy that you will be taking that plunge. I’m not usually good at this whole advice thing, but I am giving this a shot...
My number one tip would be that when you’re first starting college, it’s important for you to reach out to every resource you can. While it can be very daunting, please don’t be afraid to speak your mind and reach out to people, whether they be the people in your disability office, your professors, or even the friends that you make. Let them be your strength, your sounding board.
If you want, please feel free to message me off-list via email or via text message at the info in my signature. I wish you all the best in your endeavors.
Best,
Bri
Brianna Rigsbee
First Vice President | Connecticut Association of Blind Students, A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut
http://www.nfbct.org/ct-chapters/connecticut-association-of-blind-students
bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com
(203) 751-0199
"You can't fly unless you let yourself fall."
"You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back."

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gmail.com

From eschlenker at cox.net  Sun Aug  2 15:14:39 2020
From: eschlenker at cox.net (Emily Schlenker)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:14:39 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
In-Reply-To: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B451C24-872D-4D98-ACBC-1BD00F9A4528@cox.net>

Hi. Majority of young people are afraid when they first go to college, so what you’re feeling is normal. What I would suggest is to start getting in contact with the disability services and other offices on campus that you will be utilizing so that you can maintain a relationship with them before classes even start. also, feel free to reach out to us as your Federation family on this Mailing list. You are not alone, and many of us have beenmailing list. You are not alone, and many of us have been through a lot of college experience and will help you. where are you going to school and what will you be studying?
Good to meet you.
Emily  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eschlenker%40cox.net



From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 15:39:01 2020
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 11:39:01 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
Message-ID: <5f26de17.1c69fb81.a6d7a.dcd9@mx.google.com>

Hi Alisha thanks for your message. My name is Roanna Bacchus, and in August of 2011, I was on this same journey. Visit the college you will be attending the day before classes start. Set up your mobility training ahead of time. Be a vocal advocate for all of the accommodations that nou need to complete your coursework. Register with the Office for students with disabilities so they can provide you with the necessary services.

On Aug 2, 2020 10:33 AM, Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. &#128526;&#128077; Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com

From dandrews920 at comcast.net  Sun Aug  2 15:40:00 2020
From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 10:40:00 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Urgent: Calling All Marching Band Students
In-Reply-To: <9f692cb8-79e2-9552-c5ce-ce2d3ca72690@gmail.com>
References: <9f692cb8-79e2-9552-c5ce-ce2d3ca72690@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.367.1772982289.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

If memory is serving me correctly, I think there have been an article 
or two, over the years about this very topic. So, you might want to 
search the Braille Monitor archives.

I also think I remember something with the Ohio State School for the Blind.

Good luck -- people have done it!

Dave

At 11:32 AM 7/31/2020, Justin Heard via NABS-L wrote:
>Hello all!
>
>Next week, my Mom is meeting with a blind student interested in 
>participating in marching band, but no one knows how a blind person 
>can do this. I know I've heard of blind students being successful in 
>this area, but I do not know any specific names. If you have any 
>experiences and/or tips to share, please reach out. I want to make 
>sure this student has the same opportunity as her sighted peers.
>
>Lets turn her dream into a reality!


-- 
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 17:17:24 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:17:24 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
Message-ID: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>

Hi all, 

 

I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so it
is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
your college dorm roommates? 

 

I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
washers and dryers that the four of us will share. 

 

I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about what
we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have multiple
opinions on this. 

 

Regards, 

Nic 

 


From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 17:30:06 2020
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:30:06 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJTqpvQbUBMLdPs1j33zP1GCgWt64fyifABK3yUvuRW-6bP2vg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Nic,
I am currently a college sophomore, but when I was a freshman I lived in
the same arrangements you will be in this semester. I personally didn’t
exactly disclose my disability upfront, it just kind of happened that we
got into that kind of a conversation. I was telling my roommates about my
books, and it just came out that way
I hope this helps,
Nesma

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 13:18 nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so
> it
> is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
> your college dorm roommates?
>
>
>
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
> room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
> washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>
>
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about
> what
> we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have
> multiple
> opinions on this.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nic
>
>
>
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 17:32:46 2020
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 13:32:46 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
Message-ID: <5f26f8c0.1c69fb81.9065c.3188@mx.google.com>

Hi Nic thanks for your message. I would definitely disclose your visual impairment to your roommates. Show them some of the equipment that you use to accomplish certain tasks. Keep in mind that most of the general public including your roommates will have questions. Answer them as honestly as possible.

Roanna Bacchus 

On Aug 2, 2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
>
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so it 
> is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to 
> your college dorm roommates? 
>
>
>
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own 
> room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are 
> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2 
> washers and dryers that the four of us will share. 
>
>
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about what 
> we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have multiple 
> opinions on this. 
>
>
>
> Regards, 
>
> Nic 
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________ 
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From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 17:37:05 2020
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:37:05 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
In-Reply-To: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJTqpvQjTjgoo32Es+GQPQ+UVJCX2RwycvJF97Yz69wULMtekA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alisha,
I know that entering college is a very scary thing. A couple things I would
encourage you to keep in mind, your Disability Support office at your
college is going to become your best friend, trust me I’m a sophomore right
now and they have helped so much. Also, Come to really know your academic
advisor, they are there to help you every step of the way. Don’t be afraid
to ask, because if you don’t ask, nobody’s going to tell you. Also, if you
need anything I’m always here for you, just email me and we can talk.
Nesma

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:34 Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
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From princesssabrina924 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 17:41:01 2020
From: princesssabrina924 at gmail.com (Sabrina Kimbrough)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 12:41:01 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <780E28E8-8EFA-4590-89DA-14290D61074C@gmail.com>

Hey Nic,  It depends on your personalities and the conversation. If you are extraverted, then let your roommates know ASAP. If you are more shy, wait for the right time and/or start with your bathmate. Either way, best of luck.

 Whether you can or you can’t , you’re right! Henry Ford

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:18 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> 
> 
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so it
> is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
> your college dorm roommates? 
> 
> 
> 
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
> room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
> washers and dryers that the four of us will share. 
> 
> 
> 
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about what
> we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have multiple
> opinions on this. 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Nic 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Sun Aug  2 17:45:43 2020
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:45:43 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>

Hello:
I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know 
that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any 
questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get 
that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than 
it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell 
someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and 
etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even 
"stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you 
spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want 
to ask in person.

HTH,
On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so it
> is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
> your college dorm roommates?
>
>   
>
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
> room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
> washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>
>   
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about what
> we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have multiple
> opinions on this.
>
>   
>
> Regards,
>
> Nic
>
>   
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 17:54:37 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:54:37 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <780E28E8-8EFA-4590-89DA-14290D61074C@gmail.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
 <780E28E8-8EFA-4590-89DA-14290D61074C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00c701d668f5$fdd59ec0$f980dc40$@gmail.com>

 Thank You! I am more of a quieter person. I appreciate your input. 

Nic 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sabrina Kimbrough <princesssabrina924 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 1:41 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

Hey Nic,  It depends on your personalities and the conversation. If you are extraverted, then let your roommates know ASAP. If you are more shy, wait for the right time and/or start with your bathmate. Either way, best of luck.

 Whether you can or you can’t , you’re right! Henry Ford

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:18 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, 
> so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
> 
> 
> 
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are 
> also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
> 
> 
> 
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love 
> to have multiple opinions on this.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nic
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 17:59:39 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:59:39 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
 <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <00c801d668f6$b25b9c00$1712d400$@gmail.com>

Hi Tyler, 

 

I get what you are saying with putting it out there in a text. There is definitely something to be said about how it can be easier to talk to someone new when you are texting. 

 

I think my fear of mentioning it is that people may take advantage of my blindness, although this concern is probably not that big of a deal since we each have our own room. 

 

Nic 

 

From: Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 1:46 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

 

Hello:

I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.

 

HTH,

On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:

Hi all, 
 
 
 
I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so it
is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
your college dorm roommates? 
 
 
 
I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
washers and dryers that the four of us will share. 
 
 
 
I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about what
we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have multiple
opinions on this. 
 
 
 
Regards, 
 
Nic 
 
 
 
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 18:03:44 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:03:44 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <5f26f8c0.1c69fb81.9065c.3188@mx.google.com>
References: <5f26f8c0.1c69fb81.9065c.3188@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <00cd01d668f7$43e832f0$cbb898d0$@gmail.com>

Hi Roanna, 

This is an interesting point because people say that roommates are probably the people you will be the closest with in college. I also have no problem answering people's questions. I was fully sighted once, so I get what people may be thinking. 

Nic 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 1:33 PM
To: nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

Hi Nic thanks for your message. I would definitely disclose your visual impairment to your roommates. Show them some of the equipment that you use to accomplish certain tasks. Keep in mind that most of the general public including your roommates will have questions. Answer them as honestly as possible.

Roanna Bacchus 

On Aug 2, 2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, 
> so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>
>
>
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are 
> also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>
>
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love 
> to have multiple opinions on this.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nic
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Sun Aug  2 18:05:03 2020
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:05:03 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <00c801d668f6$b25b9c00$1712d400$@gmail.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
 <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>
 <00c801d668f6$b25b9c00$1712d400$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b19d35f-67e5-53be-12a3-4ea2319eeae9@tysdomain.com>

Hello:
You'll find people who will do that regardless. If they will find out 
either way and there's a chance they'll take advantage then they will do 
so regardless of when they find it out. It's a perfectly reasonable (and 
understandable) fear to have, though.
Good luck, whatever your path is.


On 8/2/2020 1:59 PM, nspohn0 at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Tyler,
>
> I get what you are saying with putting it out there in a text. There 
> is definitely something to be said about how it can be easier to talk 
> to someone new when you are texting.
>
> I think my fear of mentioning it is that people may take advantage of 
> my blindness, although this concern is probably not that big of a deal 
> since we each have our own room.
>
> Nic
>
> *From:* Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 2, 2020 1:46 PM
> *To:* National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* nspohn0 at gmail.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
>
> Hello:
>
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know 
> that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any 
> questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to 
> get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out 
> than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to 
> tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first 
> meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial 
> questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, 
> and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around 
> issues they don't want to ask in person.
>
> HTH,
>
> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>       
>
>       
>
>       
>
>     I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so it
>
>     is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
>
>     your college dorm roommates?
>
>       
>
>       
>
>       
>
>     I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
>
>     room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
>
>     responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
>
>     washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>
>       
>
>       
>
>       
>
>     I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about what
>
>     we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have multiple
>
>     opinions on this.
>
>       
>
>       
>
>       
>
>     Regards,
>
>       
>
>     Nic
>
>       
>
>       
>
>       
>
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>
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> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter 
> <http://twitter.com/sorressean>
>

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From zdreicer at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 18:10:09 2020
From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 12:10:09 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
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Good afternoon from Santa Fe. I’ve been kind of keeping an eye on this for a bit and meant to respond but did not because I was kind of interested to see what others were saying. I second that all has been said here. One other thing to keep in mind is that things will probably not be as they normally would for a Freshman this year because of the CoronaVirus pandemic. So now more than ever, you need to be in touch with the disability resource center and each instructor because the probability of having online components to class or even online experiences entirely is significantly greater now. That in mind, find friends who you can hang out with, maybe like in classes or in the dining hall or around the dorm … and hang out with them. Just be sure to do it following all local regulations regarding Covid19! I am available to visit with you via this email address if you would like a friend or need anything at all. Stay safe and well. 



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> On Aug 2, 2020, at 08:33, Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
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From hstaley at nfbtx.org  Sun Aug  2 18:13:30 2020
From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:13:30 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>
References: <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>
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No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so it
>> is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
>> your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
>> room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
>> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
>> washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about what
>> we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have multiple
>> opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
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> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Take Care,
> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his)
> 
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> 
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 18:19:43 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:19:43 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <7505A047-4774-4312-8401-8FBB12658AD3@nfbtx.org>
References: <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>
 <7505A047-4774-4312-8401-8FBB12658AD3@nfbtx.org>
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Hi Harry, 

Do you think it only came up later on because your vision loss is not that severe? I am a screen reader user. I also use tactile graphics. I am considering walking around campus with a cane because of social distancing guidelines in common areas. My vision is good enough that I can get around without the cane in most places, but I tend to use the cane in unfamiliar areas/areas with lots of people. 

Nic 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Harry Staley via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> --
> 
> Take Care,
> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his)
> 
> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business 
> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site 
> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter 
> <http://twitter.com/sorressean>
> 
> 
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From louvins at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 19:09:07 2020
From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:09:07 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
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 <00d001d668f9$7ed65750$7c8305f0$@gmail.com>
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If you have been texting your roommates already, then I agree with
Tyler.  I would very casually bring it up.  You have nothing to be
ashamed of or anything to hide.  I saw you mentioned in a previous
message about thinking of using a cane on campus. I'd agree with that.
I have no vision, so when I was in college a cane was a must for me.
Also, learn the routes to your classes and such as quickly and in as
reasonable a manner as you can.  I regret not learning the routes to
my classes sooner.  A lot of students did help me get to a lot of my
classes, but once I learned to do it myself, things were a lot easier
for me.  Good luck with your new college career.

On 8/2/20, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Harry,
>
> Do you think it only came up later on because your vision loss is not that
> severe? I am a screen reader user. I also use tactile graphics. I am
> considering walking around campus with a cane because of social distancing
> guidelines in common areas. My vision is good enough that I can get around
> without the cane in most places, but I tend to use the cane in unfamiliar
> areas/areas with lots of people.
>
> Nic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Harry Staley via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
>
> No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks
> later after we got to know each other a bit better.
>
> Harry Staley
> (330) 718-1876
> hstaley at nfbtx.org
>
>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello:
>> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that
>> I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any
>> questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get
>> that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it
>> is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone
>> ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less
>> awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones
>> through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time
>> awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
>>
>> HTH,
>>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August
>>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual
>>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>>>
>>>
>>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our
>>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students
>>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There
>>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking
>>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would
>>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Nic
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> NABS-L:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain
>>> .com
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Take Care,
>> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his)
>>
>> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business
>> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site
>> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/sorressean>
>>
>>
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-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson


From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 20:30:12 2020
From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 15:30:12 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
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I will echo those who have said that feeling "scared" is normal.
Through school, I never thought college was for me; now, though, I've embraced it.

I believe it is critically important to reach out to as many resources as possible; doing so will make things easier.

Please feel free to reach out if you need anything:

Cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alisha Geary via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 9:33 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Alisha Geary <alishag.important2018 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!

Hello,

As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my strange cry for help.

Kind regards,
Alisha
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 20:49:31 2020
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 16:49:31 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <7505A047-4774-4312-8401-8FBB12658AD3@nfbtx.org>
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So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.

 No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.

We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
 
I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?

If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.

Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  

If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
 I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.



Thanks,
Justin









-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry Staley via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain
>> .com
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Take Care,
> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his)
> 
> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business 
> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site 
> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield> @Sorressean on Twitter 
> <http://twitter.com/sorressean>
> 
> 
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From kaybaycar at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 21:17:55 2020
From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 17:17:55 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
In-Reply-To: <00a801d6690b$b9d6b0e0$2d8412a0$@gmail.com>
References: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
 <00a801d6690b$b9d6b0e0$2d8412a0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHox4DKCBFbiSaJ01JZZdMHrxKrjnnfHDUuyLVa-LF0fhNkChw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alisha,

It's totally normal to be freaked out at the prospect of starting
college.  It's a new journey, and college is completely different from
high school.

Agree with what has been said in previous messages.  Sometimes it
seems like a daunting task, making friends in college.  Try to engage
with people in your dorm if you're living on campus this year.
Introduce yourself to everyone you can, and invite your room or suite
mates to go to dinner or coffee with you.  Also, think about the kinds
of organizations you've been involved with in high school.  All of
that should be available to you in college as well.  Church groups,
sports teams, interests and hobbies...  You can find almost anything
to join in college, seriously.

Most importantly, be yourself.  It sounds cheesy, and I'm sorry for
that.  But college isn't about being overly outgoing, super
competitive, or anything else.  There are all types in college, so
think about your values and what's important to you, and keep those
things close.

I wish you all the best!  College and grad school were the best times
of my life, and I hope the same for you.

Julie


On 8/2/20, Cory McMahon via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I will echo those who have said that feeling "scared" is normal.
> Through school, I never thought college was for me; now, though, I've
> embraced it.
>
> I believe it is critically important to reach out to as many resources as
> possible; doing so will make things easier.
>
> Please feel free to reach out if you need anything:
>
> Cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Cory McMahon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alisha Geary via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 9:33 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Alisha Geary <alishag.important2018 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
>
> Hello,
>
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting a
> new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my strange
> cry for help.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
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Law, JD Candidate 2023


From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 22:45:38 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 18:45:38 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <074c01d6690e$6c7a47a0$456ed6e0$@gmail.com>
References: <89ee9e3d-b620-175a-5f25-f1216b1ecd0d@tysdomain.com>
 <7505A047-4774-4312-8401-8FBB12658AD3@nfbtx.org>
 <074c01d6690e$6c7a47a0$456ed6e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ce01d6691e$a4c4e1f0$ee4ea5d0$@gmail.com>

Hi Justin, 

I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 

Nic 


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:50 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Justin Williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.

 No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.

We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
 
I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?

If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.

Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  

If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
 I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.



Thanks,
Justin









-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry Staley via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
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> 
> 
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> 
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From laura.meyer1379 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 00:39:43 2020
From: laura.meyer1379 at gmail.com (Laura Meyer)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:39:43 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
Message-ID: <5f275ce3.1c69fb81.78521.6cba@mx.google.com>

Hi,
I would tell them.  Sometimes its best to be up front about 
things like vision loss, and medical issues.
Just my thoughts from similar experience.

----- Original Message -----
From: nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:17:24 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

Hi all,



I will be a college freshman this fall.  My Move in day is August 
22nd, so it
is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
impairment/blindness to
your college dorm roommates?



I will be living in an apartment style.  The four of us each have 
our own
room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom.  
Students are
responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves.  There 
are also 2
washers and dryers that the four of us will share.



I have started to text each of my roommates.  We have been 
talking about what
we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc.  I would love to 
have multiple
opinions on this.



Regards,

Nic



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From carlymih at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 01:26:49 2020
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:26:49 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <00c701d668f5$fdd59ec0$f980dc40$@gmail.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
 <780E28E8-8EFA-4590-89DA-14290D61074C@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <mailman.368.1772982289.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

ATTENTION, always disclose your blindness so as 
not to lend a person space for shock or mistrust, 
doubt, that is, If they're hiding such an obvious 
stripe of their person,, what else,, then, might they be hiding?
Those blinks, don't trust 'em far's you can throw 
'em. They put their own self concept  before 
anything else, while still insisting that such a 
radical element of their space in the world is akin to eye/hair color?
I'm just worried about issues  pertaining to credibility, that's all.
What do people think of this?
Car
-----Original Message----- From: Sabrina 
Kimbrough <princesssabrina924 at gmail.com> Sent: 
Sunday, August 2, 2020 1:41 PM To: National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to 
College Roomates? Hey Nic,  It depends on your 
personalities and the conversation. If you are 
extraverted, then let your roommates know ASAP. 
If you are more shy, wait for the right time 
and/or start with your bathmate. Either way, best 
of luck. Whether you can or you can’t , 
you’re right! Henry Ford > On Aug 2, 2020, at 
12:18 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > 
I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move 
in day is August 22nd, > so it is coming up 
quickly! Do you disclose your visual > 
impairment/blindness to your college dorm 
roommates? > > > > I will be living in an 
apartment style. The four of us each have our > 
own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people 
per bathroom. Students > are responsible for 
cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
are > also 2 washers and dryers that the four of 
us will share. > > > > I have started to text 
each of my roommates. We have been talking > 
about what we are majoring in, things we like to 
do, etc. I would love > to have multiple opinions 
on this. > > > > Regards, > > Nic > > > > 
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From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 03:35:29 2020
From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 22:35:29 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Last Call: Order Your NABS Sweatshirt Before 12:00 PM EST
 on August 3!
Message-ID: <3755E5EA-2D2F-4FEA-A2EA-B21DD9883B93@gmail.com>

Hey NABSters!
This is your final reminder to join all the cool kids in purchasing a NABS sweatshirt before 12:00 PM EST on Monday, August 3rd.
See information below, and reach out ASAP with questions!
Description:
Note: Sweatshirts are available in maroon, charcoal gray, and navy blue. Hoodies come in adult sizes only; crew necks come in children sizes only.

Front of Sweatshirt:
Solid colored hoodie with a White rectangle at the top of the left breast pocket area, which features black braille reading “FREEDOM”. Directly under the white braille text box is a white freedom bell, distributed by our national training centers as a sign of independence upon graduation from training programs. Directly below is the corresponding print word “FREEDOM" in all caps and white text. It is written in a simple yet sharp font that stands up well next to the graphics.

Back of Sweatshirt:
In white text, the sweatshirt reads "NATIONAL ASSOCIATION” on the first line and “OF BLIND STUDENTS” on the line below. The lines utilize slightly different sizes of the same font as the bottom line is larger in an aesthetically pleasing manner. As the same font is used on both the front and back of the sweatshirt, the seismic change slightly emphasizes the bottom line and, subsequently, the pride we maintain in regards to our identities as blind students.

Placing an Order:
Orders can be placed anytime between now and 12:00 PM EST on August 4th. Don’t wait to place your order because NO extension will be available. Orders for both adult sized hoodies and children sized crew necks can be placed using the following link.
>  bonfire.com/nabs-outerwear <http://bonfire.com/nabs-outerwear>

Please note that a shipping charge will be applied to these orders. This factor was taken into account when pricing our sweatshirts. We understand that shipping costs are anything but convenient, so we thank you immensely for your support in the midst of our first ever electronic convention!

We are so proud of these sweatshirts and all the work that went into making them possible. Please share the link to purchase far and wide, and encourage your friends and family, both inside and outside of the Federation, to support NABS!
Any/all questions that pertain to NABS sweatshirts can be directed to me, Elizabeth Rouse, using this email address or my personal phone number (563) 210-1854.

From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 03:47:27 2020
From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 22:47:27 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited! Outreach Committee Call--Sunday,
 August 9 at 8:00 PM EST
Message-ID: <2AB8E7E0-3CA5-4BD7-9BAC-AEAB05DF21CB@gmail.com>

Sick of hearing from me yet, students?
Well, keep readying anyway so that you don’t miss the first Outreach Committee call of the post-convention year!
We cannot wait to hear your voices and ideas in just under a week, so join us on Sunday, August 9 at 8:00 PM EST using the following Zoom info.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 <https://zoom.us/j/4678833687>
Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
One tap mobile
+13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)
+13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago)
Be there or be square,
Elizabeth

From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 19:14:53 2020
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 15:14:53 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Math class in college
Message-ID: <CAJTqpvTNfU4xVGONEFsXL7tsjPHqnunjtrJWCFeRcQDrs13S3w@mail.gmail.com>

Good afternoon all,
I am required to take a math class as part of my gen ed requirements. My
advisor recommends quantitative reasoning and I am wondering if anyone has
taken it? If so, can you tell me how involved this class  is and what kinds
of accommodations you used?

Many thanks,

Nesma

From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 20:31:44 2020
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:31:44 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Math class in college
In-Reply-To: <CAJTqpvTNfU4xVGONEFsXL7tsjPHqnunjtrJWCFeRcQDrs13S3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJTqpvTNfU4xVGONEFsXL7tsjPHqnunjtrJWCFeRcQDrs13S3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6EB38F1C-7820-49EB-97F9-F3F9DBD86C66@gmail.com>

Hi Nesma, 
I took quantitative reasoning. 
I felt it wasn't too "involved" in the sense that it wasn't very graph-heavy. Much of the work involved learning about budgeting and polls, and doing calculations. What you'll have access to will depend largely on if the course is in-person, hybrid or online. 
My math books were given to me in Braille. I met with a reader once a week to look through diagrams, occasionally more or less if necessary. I also had a math tutor, separate from my tuition. I met with my tutor once a week, and I would bring the Braille volume we were currently using as well as the print copy for my tutor. You should be able to ask to borrow a print copy just for the semester. Yours might be a bit different, but mine was also a general ed. We also had math lab, which accompanied the class, in which we learned Excel basics. 
I hope this is helpful, 
Vejas  

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 12:17, nesma aly via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon all,
> I am required to take a math class as part of my gen ed requirements. My
> advisor recommends quantitative reasoning and I am wondering if anyone has
> taken it? If so, can you tell me how involved this class  is and what kinds
> of accommodations you used?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Nesma
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From hunterkuester2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 21:28:07 2020
From: hunterkuester2 at gmail.com (Hunter Kuester)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 16:28:07 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Extra! Extra! Reminder August fundraising meeting
Message-ID: <CAKY9rHEK5YHt-si8ZMVRyUjKCci248YevnvFB1RxAP+zT6Fe8g@mail.gmail.com>

Whats up NABS!

Are you ready to kick off the new NABS year off with some fundraising?
Well, we sure are and we need your help. We have an assortment of exciting
ideas on deck, that being said come ready with enthusiasm and your thinking
cap. Our meeting will take place Next Sunday, August 9, 2020 At 9 Pm
Eastern 7 PM Pacific. We Cannot wait to see you there! To join us:

Join Zoom Meeting
https://zoom.us/j/4678833687
Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
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+13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago)

Keep it classy,
Hunter Kuester
Co-chair NABS fundraising Committee
-- 
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Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 ext. 234
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Cell: (920)-285-8530
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LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!

From gene.sh.kim at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 22:09:46 2020
From: gene.sh.kim at gmail.com (Gene Kim)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 15:09:46 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
References: <00bc01d668f0$ccff4710$66fdd530$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEvYTGO54dF4-AeayuvBLeSVVjXe0CTkx9JCngbh-KQs02ns2A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Nick,

Lots of great thoughts here already (not sure if you're looking for more),
but I think as long as you're comfortable about what you decide, both
options work. I didn't disclose my blindness to my college roommate (or
study abroad roommates). There was an awkward first handshake and some
questions later down the line, but nothing major came up. I think if folks
get the sense that you are comfortable with your blindness and get to know
(or at least for now, get a glimpse of) your holistic
personhood/interests/character/story, things will very often pan out okay
whether the blindness piece comes in pre or post in person. I would lean a
little toward finding a natural opening to disclose via text since your
roommates are already getting the sense of who you are overall, but again I
think it won't go awry if you end up not disclosing until you meet in
person.

Kindly,
Gene
--
Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford University
Secretary | California Association of Blind Students


On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:21 AM nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, so
> it
> is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual impairment/blindness to
> your college dorm roommates?
>
>
>
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our own
> room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students are
> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are also 2
> washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>
>
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking about
> what
> we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love to have
> multiple
> opinions on this.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nic
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 22:16:26 2020
From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:16:26 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
Message-ID: <5f288cbd.1c69fb81.31f3a.780e@mx.google.com>

Hi Nic,

I think to be honest people will notice right away, especially if you have a cane or guide dog. I'm glad that you're already in communication with your dorm mates (since they're not in the same room as you but in the same dorm, they're considered "dorm" or "suite" rather than "room" mates), which is a luxury I didn't have when I first moved into my dorm, resulting in my roommates as well as others looking down on me due to my blindness and hearing impairments. I also discovered that my two roommates (they stayed in the same room as me) I had duffing my freshman year (or rather, my parents informed me) were weed smokers, and they often stayed up past 3 AM. In the beginning of that first semester, they would also get into my personal possessions, especially when I returned home on weekends, until I finally complained to the RA about that. So I should probably just let you know first off that you're the luckiest blind college freshman ever! LOL.

As far as disclosure, like I mentioned earlier, your dorm mates are likely to notice your blindness right off. What I would suggest is letting them know about what makes you most comfortable, such as leaving the bathroom door open unless someone is using it, that way you'll know when it's safe.

Hope this helps.

Sami

On Aug 2, 2020 8:39 PM, Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi, 
> I would tell them.  Sometimes its best to be up front about 
> things like vision loss, and medical issues. 
> Just my thoughts from similar experience. 
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org 
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org 
> Date sent: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:17:24 -0400 
> Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates? 
>
> Hi all, 
>
>
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall.  My Move in day is August 
> 22nd, so it 
> is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
> impairment/blindness to 
> your college dorm roommates? 
>
>
>
> I will be living in an apartment style.  The four of us each have 
> our own 
> room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom.  
> Students are 
> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves.  There 
> are also 2 
> washers and dryers that the four of us will share. 
>
>
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates.  We have been 
> talking about what 
> we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc.  I would love to 
> have multiple 
> opinions on this. 
>
>
>
> Regards, 
>
> Nic 
>
>
>
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 22:27:15 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 18:27:15 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
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Hi Gene, 

The more thoughts on this the better! I have not yet done anything about
this. Thank you for your input. I am probably leaning towards waiting a
little bit and then introducing it over text. 

Nic 


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Hey Nick,

Lots of great thoughts here already (not sure if you're looking for more),
but I think as long as you're comfortable about what you decide, both
options work. I didn't disclose my blindness to my college roommate (or
study abroad roommates). There was an awkward first handshake and some
questions later down the line, but nothing major came up. I think if folks
get the sense that you are comfortable with your blindness and get to know
(or at least for now, get a glimpse of) your holistic
personhood/interests/character/story, things will very often pan out okay
whether the blindness piece comes in pre or post in person. I would lean a
little toward finding a natural opening to disclose via text since your
roommates are already getting the sense of who you are overall, but again I
think it won't go awry if you end up not disclosing until you meet in
person.

Kindly,
Gene
--
Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford University
Secretary | California Association of Blind Students


On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:21 AM nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 22nd, 
> so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>
>
>
> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There are 
> also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>
>
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would love 
> to have multiple opinions on this.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nic
>
>
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 22:31:03 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 18:31:03 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
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Hi Sami, 

I am sorry to hear that you had some bad experiences. I was actually thinking about how people will know eventually because people talk to each other about other people. My campus has about 5,000 students, so it will not take long for everyone to know about how there is a visually impaired/blind kid on campus. 

That bathroom thing is a great idea. I never even thought of that. 

Thank You, 
Nic 

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Cc: Sami Osborne <sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

Hi Nic,

I think to be honest people will notice right away, especially if you have a cane or guide dog. I'm glad that you're already in communication with your dorm mates (since they're not in the same room as you but in the same dorm, they're considered "dorm" or "suite" rather than "room" mates), which is a luxury I didn't have when I first moved into my dorm, resulting in my roommates as well as others looking down on me due to my blindness and hearing impairments. I also discovered that my two roommates (they stayed in the same room as me) I had duffing my freshman year (or rather, my parents informed me) were weed smokers, and they often stayed up past 3 AM. In the beginning of that first semester, they would also get into my personal possessions, especially when I returned home on weekends, until I finally complained to the RA about that. So I should probably just let you know first off that you're the luckiest blind college freshman ever! LOL.

As far as disclosure, like I mentioned earlier, your dorm mates are likely to notice your blindness right off. What I would suggest is letting them know about what makes you most comfortable, such as leaving the bathroom door open unless someone is using it, that way you'll know when it's safe.

Hope this helps.

Sami

On Aug 2, 2020 8:39 PM, Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I would tell them.  Sometimes its best to be up front about things 
> like vision loss, and medical issues.
> Just my thoughts from similar experience. 
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates? 
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I will be a college freshman this fall.  My Move in day is August 
> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>
>
>
> I will be living in an apartment style.  The four of us each have our 
> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom.
> Students are
> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves.  There are 
> also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>
>
>
> I have started to text each of my roommates.  We have been talking 
> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc.  I would 
> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nic
>
>
>
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From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 02:08:12 2020
From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 22:08:12 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
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Hi all,

I agree with everything that's been said although to be honest, as someone who just graduated college in my home state as well as a study-abroad program in France last year, I feel like people tend to generalize the social thing. The truth is, no two colleges are the same, and you will have different opportunities depending on where you go to school. This is not to say that I'm jealous or anything—on the contrary I'm glad that so many people seemed to have had active social lives in college. However, it was really  a struggle for me to fit in, especially during my freshman year.

I guess it's best to start at the beginning. Before coming to college, I'd spent six years (7th grade till high school graduation) at a school for the blind. The main reason for that was because I faced major accommodation issues with my local public school. After graduation, I pursued my blindness training at a local training center. Just like at the school for the blind, I was surrounded by fellow blind the hard of hearing students with mostly sighted teachers. As a result, it was a sudden and major transformation when I set foot on the college campus during orientation (that is, entering into a world where the majority population was sighted). Just like you, I likely felt scared during that time, as I didn't know what to think—what would the other students think of me? Would I make friends with anyone? Would they look down on me?

The first time I met my freshman roommates was during move-in day. At that time, we were three guys all residing in the same room. They seemed nice enough in the beginning, and I even got to chat with their parents, given that I'm fluent in Spanish and they were Puerto Rican and Dominican. My first impression at that point was, all right, they seem nice, maybe we'll make friends. We had a great time having dinner in the cafeteria that first night, as well as going together to the orientation activities. When my mom came to get me to take me home for Labor Day, I loudly announced, "Bye guys!" which they then responded with, "Bye, see you later!"

However, it wasn't long before I began to see the dark side in my roommates. They were honestly two of the loudest guys I'd ever roomed with in my life. Like I mentioned in a different thread on this list earlier this evening, the two of them would often stay up past 2 or 3 AM, playing loud music and chatting with their friends (whom they brought into the room) well into the night. That can seriously mess up your sleep schedule if you're serious about obtaining your degree and just trying to get some sleep after a long day of classes and assignments. They were also both weed smokers. In the first few months of the semester, Carlos and Angel would also steal some of my personal possessions, especially when I went home on the weekends (my parents' house was only about fifteen minutes away from my school) (such as my night table, desk chair, or power strip). How did I know this? They took it cnems away without either my knowledge or consent, and they refused to put them back where they belonged until I returned to campus Monday morning. The time they stole my night table was the worst, because the guys weren't even in the room when I first came into the room. Eventually I just got so fed up and frustrated with their antics that I decided to file a complaint with our RA, who thankfully instructed Angel and Carlos to stop getting their hands on my things. However, what hurt me is that they appeared to reject me rather than accept me, as they made no effort to include me in basically anything they ever did. OK, so I may not have wanted to partake in their weed smoking, and a guy certainly needs his sleep every once in a while, but it hurt me knowing that they were including their sighted friends in their activities, and not me—their own roommate. That exserience during my freshman year was probably the most traumatic of my life, to the point where I applied for a single room for the next year and every year afterword for the rest of college (which  fortunately I was allowed to have due to my using more equipment than the average college student).

Besides my roommates, I also felt that the majority of the student body on campus was simply looking down on me because of my disabilities, especially during my freshman year. The first week of class, many students offered to help me get to class, which I politely declined. Looking back on it now, I guess I can understand why people acted that way, since it's easy for a first-time student to get lost on campus, even someone sighted. However, at the time, I didn't want anyone to view me as a pathetic weakling, you know, the poor blind guy who can't  see anything, therefore he will need help in anything and everything he does. I learned just how ignorant some people are while I was walking with another guy, who, for reasons unbenounced to me, decided to escort me to my dorm and even came into my room with me, and then he asked me what bed I was sleeping in. I mean, come on people! Why would anyone inquire as to which beds out of the three I was staying in, yet still assume that same person does not know how to get there?

That first semester, I joined an instrumental ensemble, where I accompanied the other students on the piano. At the end of the semester, we had a concert with a live audience, and no one even bothered to tell me what a good job I'd done. In fact, one student was even surprised that I could even play music at all, and even went up to the director to ask: "Can this guy really play music?" It was like I was this invisible being who didn't really exist at all, someone inferior and less than human (I have no idea if that's was going on in their minds, but I certainly felt that way at the time). Later, in the Spring semester of that year, I again played the piano at a talent show that was organized, and I ended up winning first prize. Well, guess what? Nobody even bothered to come up and congratulate me on my victory. Again, you know how much that hurts? The only person who did was the organizer of the show, but that exhilaration didn't even last a full minute, because guess what," the next question that came out of her mouth was, Do you need help getting back to the dorm?

On top of that, I found it extremely difficult to find people who had the same interests and talents as me. I'd declared my major in the study of foreign languages and cultures in hopes of becoming a language interpreter. Unfortunately, though, it seems not too many people are interested in the study of foreign languages, especially here in America. I did end up joining the instrumental ensemble my first semester, but I ended up quitting after the first time, not because I didn't like it, but because I wanted to concentrate more on the classical music pieces my piano teacher was giving me. Ytunately, though, my social life wasn't entirely tragic, as I did manage to make a few friends, who I hung out with either in the cafeteria or during class. However, it was definitely not as many people as I knew I would have wanted. It came to a point where I decided, fine, if these people don't want me as part of their circle, then I'm going to stop trying to fit in with them. That message was starting to become loud and clear for me, and I decided it would be best to do that rather than making a big thing about it and possibly either making them angry or forcing them to come up with excuses for why they felt that way towards me. So I more or less just hung out in my room most of the time, except to go to class, the cafeteria, or home on the weekends.

It wasn't until the spring semester of my junior year that I finally saw a glimmer of hope and window of opportunity for my social skills. That semester, like I mentioned earlier, I studied abroad at St. John's University in Paris, France, where my mother is from originally (by the way, Julie, I'm so glad you're back on this list—you may recall my posts on Facebook where I went into detail about my experiences there). Anyway, it was at St. John's that my social life really started looking up. Unlike at St. Thomas Aquinas (the main institution I attended), pretty much all the students there really began to accept me for the person I really was. From the moment I walked into the cafeteria that first morning of orientation, all the staff and students became incredibly friendly towards me, helping me  whenever I needed it (they always made sure to ask me whether or not I renuired the assistance rather than outright doing it), as well as including me in any and all conversatinns. For the first time in three years, I finally had a whole group of people who I could open up with, who were more than willing to guide me during trips and excursions the school was having, and who were just plain friendly and compassionate. Of course, this man very well have had to do with the small, friendly community of the campus, but it was such a relief nonetheless.

To this day, since my graduation, I still have no idea what the catalyst was for my rather tragic social upbringing at St. Thomas Aquinas College. It could very well have been my lack of skills needed to attract the attention of my sighted peers after spending 7-8 years out of the mainstream. It could have been the community of 5000 students on campus, whereas St. John's University in Paris only has about 25-30 students at a time, making the social environment so much easier. It could have been the passive-aggressive nature I chose to deal with over-protective people. As a matter of fact, some people have blamed me for their own behavior, feeling that they were just trying to be kind. I know and realize that now, but at the time it felt like they were looking down on me, causing me to feel irritated, especially since I felt like I knew my way around the campus, having spent the summer working with my mobility instructor the summer before my freshman year. Maybe some people were just ignorant by assuming that they knew everything there was to know about a blind individual. Or maybe all four of these factors could have contributed to my demise.

On the other hand, though, I should point out that while the social sceen in college may or may not be exactly what you're looking for, the academic setting is usually very good, particularly in a small liberal arts college like I attended. The greatest thing about college is that you get to learn lots of great new things, and you can even improve your skill levels and abilities in some levels. For example, through middle and high school, I had trouble making inferences and connections with the material and real life, but it's something I feel I've gotten better at during college. I also learned to express myself more eloquently, both orally and through writing (which was important, since a lot of the papers I had to do had to be at least five pages in length). time class size is also rather small—about 20-30 students in one classroom, which is about what you'd expect in a typical middle/high school setting. The advantage of this is that the professor can really get to know all the students, and class discussions are very much promoted. Group discussions are also a great way to enhance your social life and get to know other students, particularly if the assignment is in reference to themselves.

I really hope I didn't scare you even more with my story; that wasn't my intention at all. My point was simply to point out that while most people on the college campus are great, some are clearly not, either because they use substances or simply because they're downright ignorant. Some people see their college experience as life-changing, whereas I'd describe mine more as a whirlwind of ups and downs.

I also apologize to everyone for the rather rambly nature of my post, but some of you who have me on Facebook know that I'm a really eloquent writer.

Thanks very much for reading.

Sami            

On Aug 2, 2020 5:17 PM, Julie McGinnity via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Alisha,
>
> It's totally normal to be freaked out at the prospect of starting
> college.  It's a new journey, and college is completely different from
> high school.
>
> Agree with what has been said in previous messages.  Sometimes it
> seems like a daunting task, making friends in college.  Try to engage
> with people in your dorm if you're living on campus this year.
> Introduce yourself to everyone you can, and invite your room or suite
> mates to go to dinner or coffee with you.  Also, think about the kinds
> of organizations you've been involved with in high school.  All of
> that should be available to you in college as well.  Church groups,
> sports teams, interests and hobbies...  You can find almost anything
> to join in college, seriously.
>
> Most importantly, be yourself.  It sounds cheesy, and I'm sorry for
> that.  But college isn't about being overly outgoing, super
> competitive, or anything else.  There are all types in college, so
> think about your values and what's important to you, and keep those
> things close.
>
> I wish you all the best!  College and grad school were the best times
> of my life, and I hope the same for you.
>
> Julie
>
> On 8/2/20, Cory McMahon via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I will echo those who have said that feeling "scared" is normal.
> > Through school, I never thought college was for me; now, though, I've
> > embraced it.
> >
> > I believe it is critically important to reach out to as many resources as
> > possible; doing so will make things easier.
> >
> > Please feel free to reach out if you need anything:
> >
> > Cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Cory McMahon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alisha Geary via
> > NABS-L
> > Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 9:33 AM
> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Alisha Geary <alishag.important2018 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting a
> > new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> > intended. &#128526;&#128077; Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> > extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> > have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> > please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my strange
> > cry for help.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Alisha
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From singingemmanuelle at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 16:16:06 2020
From: singingemmanuelle at gmail.com (Emmanuelle Lo)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:16:06 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
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Hi Alisha,

A lot of good advice has already been shared on this list. One thing I will add is to give yourself grace and not be too hard on yourself. College is a big adjustment, and it can be really overwhelming sometimes. Follow the advice others have given here, but if there are times where you're just exhausted or stressed or sad, be kind to yourself and know that those emotions are normal. It took me pretty much my whole freshman year to finally feel like I was getting the hang of things and putting my roots down. So don't feel like there's something wrong with you if adjusting takes a while. You can always feel free to email me off list as well if you just need someone to talk to. My email address is singingemmanuelle at gmail.com. 

Best of luck to you!

Emmie

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:08 PM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I agree with everything that's been said although to be honest, as someone who just graduated college in my home state as well as a study-abroad program in France last year, I feel like people tend to generalize the social thing. The truth is, no two colleges are the same, and you will have different opportunities depending on where you go to school. This is not to say that I'm jealous or anything—on the contrary I'm glad that so many people seemed to have had active social lives in college. However, it was really  a struggle for me to fit in, especially during my freshman year.
> 
> I guess it's best to start at the beginning. Before coming to college, I'd spent six years (7th grade till high school graduation) at a school for the blind. The main reason for that was because I faced major accommodation issues with my local public school. After graduation, I pursued my blindness training at a local training center. Just like at the school for the blind, I was surrounded by fellow blind the hard of hearing students with mostly sighted teachers. As a result, it was a sudden and major transformation when I set foot on the college campus during orientation (that is, entering into a world where the majority population was sighted). Just like you, I likely felt scared during that time, as I didn't know what to think—what would the other students think of me? Would I make friends with anyone? Would they look down on me?
> 
> The first time I met my freshman roommates was during move-in day. At that time, we were three guys all residing in the same room. They seemed nice enough in the beginning, and I even got to chat with their parents, given that I'm fluent in Spanish and they were Puerto Rican and Dominican. My first impression at that point was, all right, they seem nice, maybe we'll make friends. We had a great time having dinner in the cafeteria that first night, as well as going together to the orientation activities. When my mom came to get me to take me home for Labor Day, I loudly announced, "Bye guys!" which they then responded with, "Bye, see you later!"
> 
> However, it wasn't long before I began to see the dark side in my roommates. They were honestly two of the loudest guys I'd ever roomed with in my life. Like I mentioned in a different thread on this list earlier this evening, the two of them would often stay up past 2 or 3 AM, playing loud music and chatting with their friends (whom they brought into the room) well into the night. That can seriously mess up your sleep schedule if you're serious about obtaining your degree and just trying to get some sleep after a long day of classes and assignments. They were also both weed smokers. In the first few months of the semester, Carlos and Angel would also steal some of my personal possessions, especially when I went home on the weekends (my parents' house was only about fifteen minutes away from my school) (such as my night table, desk chair, or power strip). How did I know this? They took it cnems away without either my knowledge or consent, and they refused to put them back where they belonged until I returned to campus Monday morning. The time they stole my night table was the worst, because the guys weren't even in the room when I first came into the room. Eventually I just got so fed up and frustrated with their antics that I decided to file a complaint with our RA, who thankfully instructed Angel and Carlos to stop getting their hands on my things. However, what hurt me is that they appeared to reject me rather than accept me, as they made no effort to include me in basically anything they ever did. OK, so I may not have wanted to partake in their weed smoking, and a guy certainly needs his sleep every once in a while, but it hurt me knowing that they were including their sighted friends in their activities, and not me—their own roommate. That exserience during my freshman year was probably the most traumatic of my life, to the point where I applied for a single room for the next year and every year afterword for the rest of college (which  fortunately I was allowed to have due to my using more equipment than the average college student).
> 
> Besides my roommates, I also felt that the majority of the student body on campus was simply looking down on me because of my disabilities, especially during my freshman year. The first week of class, many students offered to help me get to class, which I politely declined. Looking back on it now, I guess I can understand why people acted that way, since it's easy for a first-time student to get lost on campus, even someone sighted. However, at the time, I didn't want anyone to view me as a pathetic weakling, you know, the poor blind guy who can't  see anything, therefore he will need help in anything and everything he does. I learned just how ignorant some people are while I was walking with another guy, who, for reasons unbenounced to me, decided to escort me to my dorm and even came into my room with me, and then he asked me what bed I was sleeping in. I mean, come on people! Why would anyone inquire as to which beds out of the three I was staying in, yet still assume that same person does not know how to get there?
> 
> That first semester, I joined an instrumental ensemble, where I accompanied the other students on the piano. At the end of the semester, we had a concert with a live audience, and no one even bothered to tell me what a good job I'd done. In fact, one student was even surprised that I could even play music at all, and even went up to the director to ask: "Can this guy really play music?" It was like I was this invisible being who didn't really exist at all, someone inferior and less than human (I have no idea if that's was going on in their minds, but I certainly felt that way at the time). Later, in the Spring semester of that year, I again played the piano at a talent show that was organized, and I ended up winning first prize. Well, guess what? Nobody even bothered to come up and congratulate me on my victory. Again, you know how much that hurts? The only person who did was the organizer of the show, but that exhilaration didn't even last a full minute, because guess what," the next question that came out of her mouth was, Do you need help getting back to the dorm?
> 
> On top of that, I found it extremely difficult to find people who had the same interests and talents as me. I'd declared my major in the study of foreign languages and cultures in hopes of becoming a language interpreter. Unfortunately, though, it seems not too many people are interested in the study of foreign languages, especially here in America. I did end up joining the instrumental ensemble my first semester, but I ended up quitting after the first time, not because I didn't like it, but because I wanted to concentrate more on the classical music pieces my piano teacher was giving me. Ytunately, though, my social life wasn't entirely tragic, as I did manage to make a few friends, who I hung out with either in the cafeteria or during class. However, it was definitely not as many people as I knew I would have wanted. It came to a point where I decided, fine, if these people don't want me as part of their circle, then I'm going to stop trying to fit in with them. That message was starting to become loud and clear for me, and I decided it would be best to do that rather than making a big thing about it and possibly either making them angry or forcing them to come up with excuses for why they felt that way towards me. So I more or less just hung out in my room most of the time, except to go to class, the cafeteria, or home on the weekends.
> 
> It wasn't until the spring semester of my junior year that I finally saw a glimmer of hope and window of opportunity for my social skills. That semester, like I mentioned earlier, I studied abroad at St. John's University in Paris, France, where my mother is from originally (by the way, Julie, I'm so glad you're back on this list—you may recall my posts on Facebook where I went into detail about my experiences there). Anyway, it was at St. John's that my social life really started looking up. Unlike at St. Thomas Aquinas (the main institution I attended), pretty much all the students there really began to accept me for the person I really was. From the moment I walked into the cafeteria that first morning of orientation, all the staff and students became incredibly friendly towards me, helping me  whenever I needed it (they always made sure to ask me whether or not I renuired the assistance rather than outright doing it), as well as including me in any and all conversatinns. For the first time in three years, I finally had a whole group of people who I could open up with, who were more than willing to guide me during trips and excursions the school was having, and who were just plain friendly and compassionate. Of course, this man very well have had to do with the small, friendly community of the campus, but it was such a relief nonetheless.
> 
> To this day, since my graduation, I still have no idea what the catalyst was for my rather tragic social upbringing at St. Thomas Aquinas College. It could very well have been my lack of skills needed to attract the attention of my sighted peers after spending 7-8 years out of the mainstream. It could have been the community of 5000 students on campus, whereas St. John's University in Paris only has about 25-30 students at a time, making the social environment so much easier. It could have been the passive-aggressive nature I chose to deal with over-protective people. As a matter of fact, some people have blamed me for their own behavior, feeling that they were just trying to be kind. I know and realize that now, but at the time it felt like they were looking down on me, causing me to feel irritated, especially since I felt like I knew my way around the campus, having spent the summer working with my mobility instructor the summer before my freshman year. Maybe some people were just ignorant by assuming that they knew everything there was to know about a blind individual. Or maybe all four of these factors could have contributed to my demise.
> 
> On the other hand, though, I should point out that while the social sceen in college may or may not be exactly what you're looking for, the academic setting is usually very good, particularly in a small liberal arts college like I attended. The greatest thing about college is that you get to learn lots of great new things, and you can even improve your skill levels and abilities in some levels. For example, through middle and high school, I had trouble making inferences and connections with the material and real life, but it's something I feel I've gotten better at during college. I also learned to express myself more eloquently, both orally and through writing (which was important, since a lot of the papers I had to do had to be at least five pages in length). time class size is also rather small—about 20-30 students in one classroom, which is about what you'd expect in a typical middle/high school setting. The advantage of this is that the professor can really get to know all the students, and class discussions are very much promoted. Group discussions are also a great way to enhance your social life and get to know other students, particularly if the assignment is in reference to themselves.
> 
> I really hope I didn't scare you even more with my story; that wasn't my intention at all. My point was simply to point out that while most people on the college campus are great, some are clearly not, either because they use substances or simply because they're downright ignorant. Some people see their college experience as life-changing, whereas I'd describe mine more as a whirlwind of ups and downs.
> 
> I also apologize to everyone for the rather rambly nature of my post, but some of you who have me on Facebook know that I'm a really eloquent writer.
> 
> Thanks very much for reading.
> 
> Sami            
> 
> On Aug 2, 2020 5:17 PM, Julie McGinnity via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alisha,
>> 
>> It's totally normal to be freaked out at the prospect of starting
>> college.  It's a new journey, and college is completely different from
>> high school.
>> 
>> Agree with what has been said in previous messages.  Sometimes it
>> seems like a daunting task, making friends in college.  Try to engage
>> with people in your dorm if you're living on campus this year.
>> Introduce yourself to everyone you can, and invite your room or suite
>> mates to go to dinner or coffee with you.  Also, think about the kinds
>> of organizations you've been involved with in high school.  All of
>> that should be available to you in college as well.  Church groups,
>> sports teams, interests and hobbies...  You can find almost anything
>> to join in college, seriously.
>> 
>> Most importantly, be yourself.  It sounds cheesy, and I'm sorry for
>> that.  But college isn't about being overly outgoing, super
>> competitive, or anything else.  There are all types in college, so
>> think about your values and what's important to you, and keep those
>> things close.
>> 
>> I wish you all the best!  College and grad school were the best times
>> of my life, and I hope the same for you.
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>> On 8/2/20, Cory McMahon via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I will echo those who have said that feeling "scared" is normal.
>>> Through school, I never thought college was for me; now, though, I've
>>> embraced it.
>>> 
>>> I believe it is critically important to reach out to as many resources as
>>> possible; doing so will make things easier.
>>> 
>>> Please feel free to reach out if you need anything:
>>> 
>>> Cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Cory McMahon
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alisha Geary via
>>> NABS-L
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 9:33 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Alisha Geary <alishag.important2018 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting a
>>> new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
>>> intended. &#128526;&#128077; Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
>>> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
>>> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
>>> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my strange
>>> cry for help.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Alisha
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>> -- 
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>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
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From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 16:43:06 2020
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (Simon Bonenfant)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:43:06 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
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I would say you should disclose your blindness pretty quickly after meeting them meaning meeting them via text and then disclosing it via text. The most important thing though is just be yourself. Because if you wait to disclose it, you might try to hard or act uncomfortable which would make them more uncomfortable around you. So I would just say just be yourself, if they’re good friends and good people then they’re all respect you for who you are. If they’re not good friends are good people and wouldn’t matter if you’re blind or not then you’re not gonna respect you and you don’t have to appeal to them necessarily.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:32 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sami, 
> 
> I am sorry to hear that you had some bad experiences. I was actually thinking about how people will know eventually because people talk to each other about other people. My campus has about 5,000 students, so it will not take long for everyone to know about how there is a visually impaired/blind kid on campus. 
> 
> That bathroom thing is a great idea. I never even thought of that. 
> 
> Thank You, 
> Nic 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via NABS-L
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 6:16 PM
> To: Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sami Osborne <sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> Hi Nic,
> 
> I think to be honest people will notice right away, especially if you have a cane or guide dog. I'm glad that you're already in communication with your dorm mates (since they're not in the same room as you but in the same dorm, they're considered "dorm" or "suite" rather than "room" mates), which is a luxury I didn't have when I first moved into my dorm, resulting in my roommates as well as others looking down on me due to my blindness and hearing impairments. I also discovered that my two roommates (they stayed in the same room as me) I had duffing my freshman year (or rather, my parents informed me) were weed smokers, and they often stayed up past 3 AM. In the beginning of that first semester, they would also get into my personal possessions, especially when I returned home on weekends, until I finally complained to the RA about that. So I should probably just let you know first off that you're the luckiest blind college freshman ever! LOL.
> 
> As far as disclosure, like I mentioned earlier, your dorm mates are likely to notice your blindness right off. What I would suggest is letting them know about what makes you most comfortable, such as leaving the bathroom door open unless someone is using it, that way you'll know when it's safe.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Sami
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2020 8:39 PM, Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I would tell them.  Sometimes its best to be up front about things 
>> like vision loss, and medical issues.
>> Just my thoughts from similar experience. 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:17:24 -0400
>> Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates? 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I will be a college freshman this fall.  My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I will be living in an apartment style.  The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom.
>> Students are
>> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves.  There are 
>> also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have started to text each of my roommates.  We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc.  I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 16:48:23 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:48:23 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
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 <72061F4C-AF61-4817-ADE7-502403E5B36F@gmail.com>
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Hi Simon, 

Great to hear from you! I've texted my roommates on two separate occasions in the week that I have known them. My current philosophy in handling this is to get to know each of them and then introduce it via text message. One of my roommates is on the cross-country team with me, so I feel like there is some benefit to having a teammate as a roommate. I have found in the past that teammates will have your back. Hoping that works out. 

On another note, I cannot believe how many responses I have got on this question. I can tell there is a lot of support in this community. 

Nic 


-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Bonenfant <sbonenfant2 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:43 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

I would say you should disclose your blindness pretty quickly after meeting them meaning meeting them via text and then disclosing it via text. The most important thing though is just be yourself. Because if you wait to disclose it, you might try to hard or act uncomfortable which would make them more uncomfortable around you. So I would just say just be yourself, if they’re good friends and good people then they’re all respect you for who you are. If they’re not good friends are good people and wouldn’t matter if you’re blind or not then you’re not gonna respect you and you don’t have to appeal to them necessarily.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:32 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sami,
> 
> I am sorry to hear that you had some bad experiences. I was actually thinking about how people will know eventually because people talk to each other about other people. My campus has about 5,000 students, so it will not take long for everyone to know about how there is a visually impaired/blind kid on campus. 
> 
> That bathroom thing is a great idea. I never even thought of that. 
> 
> Thank You,
> Nic
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 6:16 PM
> To: Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sami Osborne <sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> Hi Nic,
> 
> I think to be honest people will notice right away, especially if you have a cane or guide dog. I'm glad that you're already in communication with your dorm mates (since they're not in the same room as you but in the same dorm, they're considered "dorm" or "suite" rather than "room" mates), which is a luxury I didn't have when I first moved into my dorm, resulting in my roommates as well as others looking down on me due to my blindness and hearing impairments. I also discovered that my two roommates (they stayed in the same room as me) I had duffing my freshman year (or rather, my parents informed me) were weed smokers, and they often stayed up past 3 AM. In the beginning of that first semester, they would also get into my personal possessions, especially when I returned home on weekends, until I finally complained to the RA about that. So I should probably just let you know first off that you're the luckiest blind college freshman ever! LOL.
> 
> As far as disclosure, like I mentioned earlier, your dorm mates are likely to notice your blindness right off. What I would suggest is letting them know about what makes you most comfortable, such as leaving the bathroom door open unless someone is using it, that way you'll know when it's safe.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Sami
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2020 8:39 PM, Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I would tell them.  Sometimes its best to be up front about things 
>> like vision loss, and medical issues.
>> Just my thoughts from similar experience. 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:17:24 -0400
>> Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates? 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I will be a college freshman this fall.  My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I will be living in an apartment style.  The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom.
>> Students are
>> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves.  There are 
>> also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have started to text each of my roommates.  We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc.  I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Tue Aug  4 16:57:51 2020
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 16:57:51 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] NFB NEEDS YOUR HELP: Legislative Alert 8-3-2020
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Dear Student Leaders,

We have an urgent need for action this week on a couple of bills. I want to be sure that you have seen the following legislative alert from the NFB national headquarters. I will be calling my Senators momentarily.

If you have any questions, I’d recommend reaching out to the contacts in the email, but I’m happy to help in any way that I can.

Thank you!

Justin

Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury
he/him/his

Second Vice President | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
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From: NFBNet-Members-List <nfbnet-members-list-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pare, John via NFBNet-Members-List
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 5:03 PM
To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Legislative Alert 8-3-2020

Dear Federation Family:

I wanted to share some truly great news. We are up to 121 cosponsors on the Access Technology Affordability Act in the House and 24 in the Senate. This would not be possible without your calls, emails, and social media.

While we still need to build cosponsor support for the Access Technology Affordability Act, there are two new issues which need our immediate attention. Last week, on Wednesday, July 29, the House passed Sami’s Law (H.R. 4686) without objection. This legislation will increase the safety of ridesharing apps and will ensure that these safety measures are nonvisually accessible. The National Federation of the Blind has worked closely with the sponsor of the bill, Representative Chris Smith of New Jersey, to make sure that blind rideshare users will not be excluded from the bill’s additional safety measures. The bill has now been transmitted to the Senate for consideration, and we need to call or email every member of the Senate and urge them to pass H.R. 4686, Sami’s Law.

The second urgent matter is one of the newly proposed COVID-19 relief bills in the Senate. The SAFE TO WORK Act, S. 4317 contains a section that would eliminate critical protections established in Titles I and III of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. Please contact your senators and urge them to amend this harmful language out of S. 4317.

When you call or email your senators you might say something like:

"Hello, my name is [YOUR NAME], and I am a constituent of [SENATOR NAME]. I live in [CITY, STATE]. The House recently passed H.R. 4686, Sami’s Law. This bill will make it safer for all people, including blind people, to use rideshare companies, and I urge you to vote in favor of this legislation when it is considered in the Senate. Additionally, I would strongly urge you to propose an amendment to strike Section 181(a)(1)(G) and Section 181(b) from S. 4317, the SAFE TO WORK Act. The language currently contained in Section 181 critically weakens the protections for disabled Americans set forth in the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. Please ensure that the protections of the ADA are maintained by amending this legislation. Thank you.”

It is critical that you contact your two senators on these two pieces of legislation as soon as possible, as the Senate is scheduled to enter its traditional August recess starting Friday, August 7. We don’t want to miss the opportunity to get meaningful legislation passed and to prevent harmful legislation from becoming law.

You can contact your senators by calling the Capitol Switchboard and asking for the office in question. The number is 202-224-3121. If you email your senators, please copy Jeff Kaloc at jkaloc at nfb.org<mailto:jkaloc at nfb.org>. Your calls and emails do make a difference.

We recommend you call or email the legislative director in your senator's office. If you need the name and email of the appropriate staff person for any Senate or House office, please email Jesa Medders at jmedders at nfb.org<mailto:jmedders at nfb.org>.

Thank you.

John G. Paré Jr.
Executive Director for Advocacy and Policy
National Federation of the Blind
200 East Wells Street
Baltimore, MD 21230
Telephone: (410) 659-9314, extension 2218
Cell phone: (410) 917-1965
Email: jpare at nfb.org<mailto:jpare at nfb.org>

The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


From sbonenfant2 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 17:34:00 2020
From: sbonenfant2 at gmail.com (Simon Bonenfant)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 13:34:00 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
In-Reply-To: <004f01d66a7f$11ae3a30$350aae90$@gmail.com>
References: <004f01d66a7f$11ae3a30$350aae90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <66486255-2E48-4E21-AC8B-1BCA14786925@gmail.com>

Hey Nick, that’s great that you’re on a team with one of your roommates. Best of luck to you and don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions for me or want to catch up thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 12:48 PM, nspohn0 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon, 
> 
> Great to hear from you! I've texted my roommates on two separate occasions in the week that I have known them. My current philosophy in handling this is to get to know each of them and then introduce it via text message. One of my roommates is on the cross-country team with me, so I feel like there is some benefit to having a teammate as a roommate. I have found in the past that teammates will have your back. Hoping that works out. 
> 
> On another note, I cannot believe how many responses I have got on this question. I can tell there is a lot of support in this community. 
> 
> Nic 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Bonenfant <sbonenfant2 at gmail.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:43 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> I would say you should disclose your blindness pretty quickly after meeting them meaning meeting them via text and then disclosing it via text. The most important thing though is just be yourself. Because if you wait to disclose it, you might try to hard or act uncomfortable which would make them more uncomfortable around you. So I would just say just be yourself, if they’re good friends and good people then they’re all respect you for who you are. If they’re not good friends are good people and wouldn’t matter if you’re blind or not then you’re not gonna respect you and you don’t have to appeal to them necessarily.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:32 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sami,
>> 
>> I am sorry to hear that you had some bad experiences. I was actually thinking about how people will know eventually because people talk to each other about other people. My campus has about 5,000 students, so it will not take long for everyone to know about how there is a visually impaired/blind kid on campus. 
>> 
>> That bathroom thing is a great idea. I never even thought of that. 
>> 
>> Thank You,
>> Nic
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sami Osborne via 
>> NABS-L
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 6:16 PM
>> To: Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sami Osborne <sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
>> 
>> Hi Nic,
>> 
>> I think to be honest people will notice right away, especially if you have a cane or guide dog. I'm glad that you're already in communication with your dorm mates (since they're not in the same room as you but in the same dorm, they're considered "dorm" or "suite" rather than "room" mates), which is a luxury I didn't have when I first moved into my dorm, resulting in my roommates as well as others looking down on me due to my blindness and hearing impairments. I also discovered that my two roommates (they stayed in the same room as me) I had duffing my freshman year (or rather, my parents informed me) were weed smokers, and they often stayed up past 3 AM. In the beginning of that first semester, they would also get into my personal possessions, especially when I returned home on weekends, until I finally complained to the RA about that. So I should probably just let you know first off that you're the luckiest blind college freshman ever! LOL.
>> 
>> As far as disclosure, like I mentioned earlier, your dorm mates are likely to notice your blindness right off. What I would suggest is letting them know about what makes you most comfortable, such as leaving the bathroom door open unless someone is using it, that way you'll know when it's safe.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Sami
>> 
>>>> On Aug 2, 2020 8:39 PM, Laura Meyer via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I would tell them.  Sometimes its best to be up front about things 
>>> like vision loss, and medical issues.
>>> Just my thoughts from similar experience. 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:17:24 -0400
>>> Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates? 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be a college freshman this fall.  My Move in day is August 
>>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be living in an apartment style.  The four of us each have our 
>>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom.
>>> Students are
>>> responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves.  There are 
>>> also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have started to text each of my roommates.  We have been talking 
>>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc.  I would 
>>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From jesse.c.fung.1 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 17:43:54 2020
From: jesse.c.fung.1 at gmail.com (Jesse Fung)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:43:54 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
Message-ID: <A3B91086-FA05-4C49-8665-EF1A8A88E32B@gmail.com>

Hi all,

All the emailing threads on getting accustomed to college have been really helpful. As an incoming freshman preparing to study architecture, I haven’t been able to meet people who are in this similar position. As a result, I feel like I’m going into this academic area “blind”. Some of my concerns stem from the heavy visually-demanding aspect of design and modeling. Nowadays, the use of computer programs such as SketchUp, CAD, and Revit have become integral with learning the architecture trade. Not only are these programs heavily visual, there are many commands that one has to learn. On a side note, I became visually impaired two years ago so I am not great with Braille. Are there people who are currently studying architecture or practicing architects that I can talk to about these concerns? Thanks!

Sincerely,
Jesse Fung



From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 18:05:26 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 14:05:26 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
In-Reply-To: <A3B91086-FA05-4C49-8665-EF1A8A88E32B@gmail.com>
References: <A3B91086-FA05-4C49-8665-EF1A8A88E32B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007001d66a89$d504be50$7f0e3af0$@gmail.com>

Hi Jesse, 

I recommend you also email the NFB Science list serve. NFB Science consists of science and engineering professionals, as well as students. The email for NFB Science is: 
nfb-science at nfbnet.org

Regards,
Nic 


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jesse Fung via NABS-L
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:44 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Jesse Fung <jesse.c.fung.1 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College

Hi all,

All the emailing threads on getting accustomed to college have been really helpful. As an incoming freshman preparing to study architecture, I haven’t been able to meet people who are in this similar position. As a result, I feel like I’m going into this academic area “blind”. Some of my concerns stem from the heavy visually-demanding aspect of design and modeling. Nowadays, the use of computer programs such as SketchUp, CAD, and Revit have become integral with learning the architecture trade. Not only are these programs heavily visual, there are many commands that one has to learn. On a side note, I became visually impaired two years ago so I am not great with Braille. Are there people who are currently studying architecture or practicing architects that I can talk to about these concerns? Thanks!

Sincerely,
Jesse Fung


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From mikgephart at icloud.com  Tue Aug  4 18:39:35 2020
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 14:39:35 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Starting College, I'm Scared!
In-Reply-To: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+=1bxkPROFntgS0pN-sc08ZShRy4Ev4UJcETrnYncHo=MwEUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <999D508B-1F51-45EB-8FAA-694DD3A14206@icloud.com>

Hi Alisha,

     Thank you for posting. I hope you are doing well. My name is Mikayla, and I am a sophomore in college. I am still deciding on my major, but am strongly considering Social Work.

    It is totally fine that you are scared. It is a big transition, but remember you are not the only one. Many other freshmen are in the same boat. However, you made the right decision by coming here for help. My experience has made me learn a lot, and therefore I have a lot to share. I will probably mention things other people have said, but I will also add some new thoughts.

     First of all, make the most of your experience. You will only have a few years in college, so enjoy them while you can.

     Second, I agree with the advice to find your social footing. There are many ways of doing this. Like Sabrina, I started with the people in my dorm. I also would talk to people who sat next to me in class. My best friend and I met during my first semester in History class. Also, while this has probably changed due to COVID19, there used to be lots of social opportunities during orientation. If your college is hosting socials, I would recommend attending. My dorm also used to have socials, which is helpful. Before the pandemic, I also tried to make friends with people at the dining hall. I made a few friends at the dining hall.

     My school is a small school, and we do some things differently. We have Student Advisors, who are assigned six to twelve students to lead through orientation. I am a Student Advisor this year, and I loved working with my Student Advisors freshman year, and I wanted to be like them and support other students. The Student Advisors also hold connections throughout the year to encourage socialization. If your school has anything like this, I would take advantage of it. If there are other mentoring programs, take advantage of them also. What college are you attending?

     I have also found clubs and organizations on campus good places to get involved, as well as to make friends. At my school before the pandemic, clubs and organizations had a major role in move-in. During move-in, two different clubs sent members to my door to welcome me. Sometimes they brought treats, but others just came to say hi. I exchanged phone numbers with girls from both clubs, and ended up getting involved in both. One of the clubs I am involved with also has social activities the first two weeks. Even though these activities might not be on your orientation schedule, the clubs are happy to have you. You can ask student leaders or other upper-class students if they are involved in any clubs and organizations that are hosting social activities.

     Another important discussion is working with the Disability Services Office and your professors. If you need accommodations, you will need to go through the Disability Services Office. Reach out to them so you can start the conversation as soon as possible. As a student who has had issues with my Disability Services Office, you need to advocate for yourself and lead all discussions. If you are passive and rely on them to know what accommodations you need and be in charge of everything, balls will probably be dropped. Please speak up any time you have concerns! If you need advice, you can always post here.

     Going along with that point, it is important that you communicate with your professors as soon as possible. I usually send an email, introducing myself and what I need. If I have to involve Disability Services for any reason, I still insist on leading discussions as much as possible.

     Disability Services is not the only important resource. Colleges also usually have counseling, tutoring, advising, and other services. The Research Librarians are also good people to get to know. I have found it particularly important to connect with the tutoring services. The tutors are usually fellow students, and I have met several tutors through multiple places. Speaking of fellow students, I have found students who are ahead of me to be good resources. My Student Advisor, Resident Assistant, and other students are great at pointing me in the right direction. 

     Also, are you involved with your Nabs division in your state? If not, I would highly recommend getting connected. Sometimes, it helps to have local people to talk to. If you are not connected, feel free to post your state and we can help you.

     This semester will definitely be different because of the pandemic. My advice is based on my non-pandemic experience. I’m sure it will be weird for all freshmen this year. 

     Feel free to reach out here or to me directly if you need anything. We are all here for you.

Best,
Mikayla

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Alisha Geary via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As you might could tell, I've just graduated high school, and I'm starting
> a new chapter of my life, and I'm kind of going in blindly, pun extremely
> intended. 😎👍 Did I get any props on the comedy? I don't like being the
> extremely scared weirdo lol, but that's not the point. Anyways, does anyone
> have tips for this first time college freshmen blind girl? If so, please
> please please share them. Give me all you got. Thanks for reading my
> strange cry for help.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alisha
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From mikgephart at icloud.com  Tue Aug  4 18:46:48 2020
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 14:46:48 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] More accessibility questions
Message-ID: <B7CACAAF-C84F-417E-AD38-B0C66AD1056B@icloud.com>

Hi everyone,

     A while ago, I posted about a program called Labster that my Biology lab will be using. Now, I have a few more questions. It seems like I can’t get away from virtual software now that my classes are online. 

     Has anyone used the websites slido.com or Peer Wise? I am going to test them myself soon, but wanted to see if anyone has used them and whether or not they were accessible.

Thanks,
Mikayla

From ka.yat.li at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 18:54:26 2020
From: ka.yat.li at gmail.com (Ka Li)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 14:54:26 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
In-Reply-To: <A3B91086-FA05-4C49-8665-EF1A8A88E32B@gmail.com>
References: <A3B91086-FA05-4C49-8665-EF1A8A88E32B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ba4ef190-dc5a-3978-bcfd-6e70a5e1ea6e@gmail.com>

Hi Jesse,

Chris Downey is  a blind architect who you may wish to contact. As for 
CAD, one way to approach this is to use OpenSCAD which is a scripting 
language that will allow you to create models through code.


I'm studying subjects that are highly visual so even though I'm not 
familiar with the tools your program will be using, I can offer more 
suggestions on different ways to access tactile graphics. Feel free to 
contact me off line if you have more questions.


Best,

Ka



On 8/4/2020 1:43 PM, Jesse Fung via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> All the emailing threads on getting accustomed to college have been really helpful. As an incoming freshman preparing to study architecture, I haven’t been able to meet people who are in this similar position. As a result, I feel like I’m going into this academic area “blind”. Some of my concerns stem from the heavy visually-demanding aspect of design and modeling. Nowadays, the use of computer programs such as SketchUp, CAD, and Revit have become integral with learning the architecture trade. Not only are these programs heavily visual, there are many commands that one has to learn. On a side note, I became visually impaired two years ago so I am not great with Braille. Are there people who are currently studying architecture or practicing architects that I can talk to about these concerns? Thanks!
>
> Sincerely,
> Jesse Fung
>
>
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From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  4 23:25:35 2020
From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:25:35 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Transcribing Music into Braille Music
References: <CEE6B963-3D9C-4442-8BC6-13E95A61C9EA.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CEE6B963-3D9C-4442-8BC6-13E95A61C9EA@yahoo.com>

Hi All, 

I am wondering if there are a few people or groups who transcribe vocal music that is in print into braille music for college students? I am taking Chorale at my college again this semester, and I would like not only the lyrics but the music notations too. I know there is an expensive software by Dancing Dots or GoodFeel or something like that , but I am looking also for options that are less expensive. 
Thank you. 

All the best, 
Ahbee   

Vice President, AABS  
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV

From mikgephart at icloud.com  Wed Aug  5 00:13:53 2020
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 20:13:53 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Learning Ally College Success Program is hosting a webinar
 tomorrow
Message-ID: <2B398DDF-573C-4195-96E4-CD801C18B185@icloud.com>

Hi, everyone,

     I wanted to share a program that might be interesting to college students, particularly incoming freshmen. I have been listening to Learning Ally audiobooks for years, and they actually have a program specifically for college students, called The College Success Program. I have found a lot of support through this program, and I hope you do as well. They have a lot of resources covering topics related to being a blind college students. They also have a mentorship program for blind/low vision college students to be paired with a recent college grad who is also blind to help them navigate the challenges they face in college. I am actually one of their mentees, and my mentor has been one of my biggest supporters during my first year of college. The best part is that it is all free. Here is the link to learn more.
www.learningally.org/CollegeSuccess

     They did have a webinar a while back about expectations for your first semester of college and they are actually having another one tomorrow at 5 PM. Here is the link if you would like to register.
https://learningally.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJUtf-mprzsrG9IJynoeO7zAvFwPcZn9ONFY

     As a new college student, I have found both Nabs and Learning Ally to be useful in different ways, and I hope you will as well. As always, feel free to reach out to me any time.

Best wishes,
Mikayla

From emilybowe2000 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  5 01:24:15 2020
From: emilybowe2000 at hotmail.com (Emily Bowe)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 01:24:15 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Transcribing Music into Braille Music
In-Reply-To: <CEE6B963-3D9C-4442-8BC6-13E95A61C9EA@yahoo.com>
References: <CEE6B963-3D9C-4442-8BC6-13E95A61C9EA.ref@yahoo.com>,
 <CEE6B963-3D9C-4442-8BC6-13E95A61C9EA@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR12MB285492AACABA2D862BF2AED4A64B0@BYAPR12MB2854.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Ahbee! I recommend Braille Music and More, www.brailllemusicandmore.com. I think the rate per Braille page is $10, it may be less. They can send it to you in a BRF format or emboss it. Their turnaround time is fantastic and they transcribe all kinds of music. 

-- Emily Bowe

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 16:26, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> I am wondering if there are a few people or groups who transcribe vocal music that is in print into braille music for college students? I am taking Chorale at my college again this semester, and I would like not only the lyrics but the music notations too. I know there is an expensive software by Dancing Dots or GoodFeel or something like that , but I am looking also for options that are less expensive. 
> Thank you. 
> 
> All the best, 
> Ahbee   
> 
> Vice President, AABS  
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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From iperrault at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  5 15:33:16 2020
From: iperrault at hotmail.com (Ian Perrault)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 15:33:16 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Orbit Writer Braille Keyboard Smartphone Companion
Message-ID: <BL0PR14MB3907481634DCD5C0AE140576BF4B0@BL0PR14MB3907.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All,
Have you ever used the Orbit Writer Braille Keyboard Smartphone Companion? It sounds like it's tiny, and it may make texting, and typing easier, on a laptop. I do have a Brailliant braille display, but this seems tiny and easy to use. It's only $99. Thoughts?
Ian

From garywunder at me.com  Wed Aug  5 17:23:52 2020
From: garywunder at me.com (Gary Wunder)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 12:23:52 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
Message-ID: <004e01d66b4d$312e2590$938a70b0$@me.com>

Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 

One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.

I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.

Gary

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Hi Justin, 

I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 

Nic 


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So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.

 No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.

We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
 
I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?

If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.

Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  

If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
 I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.



Thanks,
Justin









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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 20:03:42 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:03:42 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
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Hi Gary, 

What I liked about what you said is that it really made me think. I agree that it makes sense to have a reason behind telling someone about your vision. For example, saying "hey as long as you keep the bathroom door shut when you're in there and open it when you are done, we'll be good". Also, "hey since we're sharing a washer and dryer, I might need to put some markings on the washer and dryer so I can do my own laundry". 

When it comes to living with someone else, that is really the only big things that I can at least think of. 

Thank you for your response! 

Regards,
Nic 


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Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 

One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.

I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.

Gary

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Hi Justin, 

I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 

Nic 


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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.

 No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.

We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
 
I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?

If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.

Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  

If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
 I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.



Thanks,
Justin









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From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry Staley via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  5 20:12:27 2020
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 15:12:27 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
In-Reply-To: <A3B91086-FA05-4C49-8665-EF1A8A88E32B@gmail.com>
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Hi,

I'm curious about your situation and major decision.
Do you have a decent amount of central vision?
Does your doctor expect declining vision?
Did your rehab counselor raise any objection to your choice of major?
Bryan


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Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College

Hi all,

All the emailing threads on getting accustomed to college have been really helpful. As an incoming freshman preparing to study architecture, I haven’t been able to meet people who are in this similar position. As a result, I feel like I’m going into this academic area “blind”. Some of my concerns stem from the heavy visually-demanding aspect of design and modeling. Nowadays, the use of computer programs such as SketchUp, CAD, and Revit have become integral with learning the architecture trade. Not only are these programs heavily visual, there are many commands that one has to learn. On a side note, I became visually impaired two years ago so I am not great with Braille. Are there people who are currently studying architecture or practicing architects that I can talk to about these concerns? Thanks!

Sincerely,
Jesse Fung


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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 20:35:53 2020
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:35:53 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
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 <009001d66b63$85347430$8f9d5c90$@gmail.com>
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I'm in the same boat wit Gary, Nick.

I've learned over the years that giving people information out of context is many times worse then just not giving them anything at all.

Thanks,

Justin


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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

Hi Gary, 

What I liked about what you said is that it really made me think. I agree that it makes sense to have a reason behind telling someone about your vision. For example, saying "hey as long as you keep the bathroom door shut when you're in there and open it when you are done, we'll be good". Also, "hey since we're sharing a washer and dryer, I might need to put some markings on the washer and dryer so I can do my own laundry". 

When it comes to living with someone else, that is really the only big things that I can at least think of. 

Thank you for your response! 

Regards,
Nic 


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:24 PM
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Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 

One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.

I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.

Gary

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Hi Justin, 

I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 

Nic 


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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.

 No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.

We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
 
I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?

If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.

Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  

If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
 I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.



Thanks,
Justin









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Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
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Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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> 
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> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site 
> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
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From webmaster at nfb.org  Wed Aug  5 19:00:21 2020
From: webmaster at nfb.org (National Federation of the Blind)
Date: Wed,  5 Aug 2020 19:00:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NABS-L] Continuing The Fight for Blind Voters
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voters can vote privately and independently from the safety of their own
homes during the COVID-19 pandemic and beyond. For too long, election
officials in most states have ignored their legal obligation to make
absentee and mail-in ballots accessible to the blind, despite urgent
requests from us even before the pandemic gripped our nation. 

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We are now taking the battle to these election officials. In the days
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procedures. Litigation is also still ongoing in Michigan [4], New Hampshire
[5], New York [6], and Pennsylvania [7]. 

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Resolution 2020-23, passed by the 2020 National Convention, also demands
amendments to the Help America Vote Act that cover absentee voting and
voting by mail. These actions are a part of a legal and advocacy strategy
to ultimately secure the right of blind voters everywhere to participate
fully and equally in all aspects of federal, state, and local elections. 

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From jesse.c.fung.1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 00:13:16 2020
From: jesse.c.fung.1 at gmail.com (Jesse Fung)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:13:16 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
In-Reply-To: <02af01d66b64$bed96c30$3c8c4490$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <02af01d66b64$bed96c30$3c8c4490$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <51A6655C-9A5D-40D6-BF27-B8D9402D73BE@gmail.com>

Hi Bryan,

I’m diagnosed with Leber’s Hereditary Optic Neuropathy, which means that I am lacking central vision sensitivity. This eye condition usually manifests itself around adolescence or as a young adult. As for my decision to choose architecture as my major, I really didn’t face a lot of backlash or criticism from my rehab counselor. Maybe it’s due to the fact that I still maintained a decent academic standing even when my eyes were deteriorating during high school. As of this current moment, I would say that my eyes have normalized for a lack of a better word. Even before my eyes were bad, I already made the conscious decision to pursue this area of interest. However, I wouldn't say that I am absolutely confident that I am going to be a star-architect student (insane crazy need no sleep creative minds who are already proficient with all the architecture programs). 

Sincerely,
Jesse Fung


> On Aug 5, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm curious about your situation and major decision.
> Do you have a decent amount of central vision?
> Does your doctor expect declining vision?
> Did your rehab counselor raise any objection to your choice of major?
> Bryan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jesse Fung via NABS-L
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:44 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jesse Fung <jesse.c.fung.1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> All the emailing threads on getting accustomed to college have been really helpful. As an incoming freshman preparing to study architecture, I haven’t been able to meet people who are in this similar position. As a result, I feel like I’m going into this academic area “blind”. Some of my concerns stem from the heavy visually-demanding aspect of design and modeling. Nowadays, the use of computer programs such as SketchUp, CAD, and Revit have become integral with learning the architecture trade. Not only are these programs heavily visual, there are many commands that one has to learn. On a side note, I became visually impaired two years ago so I am not great with Braille. Are there people who are currently studying architecture or practicing architects that I can talk to about these concerns? Thanks!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jesse Fung
> 
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From garywunder at me.com  Thu Aug  6 01:04:36 2020
From: garywunder at me.com (Gary Wunder)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 20:04:36 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
In-Reply-To: <009001d66b63$85347430$8f9d5c90$@gmail.com>
References: <004e01d66b4d$312e2590$938a70b0$@me.com>
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That makes sense to me. I think those things can either be done in advance or as easily done face-to-face. Again, I have no real point to sell. There are times when it makes sense to me to speak early about the fact I am blind and at other times it doesn't seem to matter. I've seen this question in relation to dating sites, but I am happily married, am sixty-five, and the only way I'll find myself on a dating site is if I click the wrong link in a spam message. I use Earthlink as one of my accounts, have had the account for about twenty-five years, openly advertised my address as a former national board member and state president, and almost begged people to reach out for help. So on that account I'm on everyone's list--want to grow hair again; want a cure for your arthritis pain; want burial insurance, want help being more frisky with the one you love? Nothing is sacred. I suspect if the algorithms were a little less artificial and a little more intelligent, they'd try selling me carrots to heal my blindness.

Warmly,

Gary

P.S. I congratulate you on being a scholarship winner. I got Covid right before the convention and ducked out of any real responsibility as a mentor. I regret that and even more now that we have had a chance to chat.

GW



-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:04 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

Hi Gary, 

What I liked about what you said is that it really made me think. I agree that it makes sense to have a reason behind telling someone about your vision. For example, saying "hey as long as you keep the bathroom door shut when you're in there and open it when you are done, we'll be good". Also, "hey since we're sharing a washer and dryer, I might need to put some markings on the washer and dryer so I can do my own laundry". 

When it comes to living with someone else, that is really the only big things that I can at least think of. 

Thank you for your response! 

Regards,
Nic 


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:24 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 

One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.

I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 5:46 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

Hi Justin, 

I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 

Nic 


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:50 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Justin Williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.

 No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.

We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
 
I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?

If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.

Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  

If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
 I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.



Thanks,
Justin









-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry Staley via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
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From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 01:22:26 2020
From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 20:22:26 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
In-Reply-To: <002901d66b8d$8e538f90$aafaaeb0$@me.com>
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I will forever appreciate my friend, Gary, and his sense of humor!

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:05 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

That makes sense to me. I think those things can either be done in advance or as easily done face-to-face. Again, I have no real point to sell. There are times when it makes sense to me to speak early about the fact I am blind and at other times it doesn't seem to matter. I've seen this question in relation to dating sites, but I am happily married, am sixty-five, and the only way I'll find myself on a dating site is if I click the wrong link in a spam message. I use Earthlink as one of my accounts, have had the account for about twenty-five years, openly advertised my address as a former national board member and state president, and almost begged people to reach out for help. So on that account I'm on everyone's list--want to grow hair again; want a cure for your arthritis pain; want burial insurance, want help being more frisky with the one you love? Nothing is sacred. I suspect if the algorithms were a little less artificial and a little more intelligent, they'd try selling me carrots to heal my blindness.

Warmly,

Gary

P.S. I congratulate you on being a scholarship winner. I got Covid right before the convention and ducked out of any real responsibility as a mentor. I regret that and even more now that we have had a chance to chat.

GW



-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:04 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

Hi Gary, 

What I liked about what you said is that it really made me think. I agree that it makes sense to have a reason behind telling someone about your vision. For example, saying "hey as long as you keep the bathroom door shut when you're in there and open it when you are done, we'll be good". Also, "hey since we're sharing a washer and dryer, I might need to put some markings on the washer and dryer so I can do my own laundry". 

When it comes to living with someone else, that is really the only big things that I can at least think of. 

Thank you for your response! 

Regards,
Nic 


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:24 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 

One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.

I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 5:46 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

Hi Justin, 

I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 

Nic 


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:50 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Justin Williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.

 No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.

We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
 
I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?

If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.

Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  

If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
 I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.



Thanks,
Justin









-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry Staley via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?

No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.

Harry Staley
(330) 718-1876
hstaley at nfbtx.org

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
> 
> HTH,
>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>> 
>>  
>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>> 
>>  
>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nic
>> 
>>  
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From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 02:10:23 2020
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:10:23 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
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I realize I’m late to the party and this has probably already been said, but I don’t think there’s much point in avoiding disclosure. Blindness is a part of who you are, and if your roommates can’t accept that, they’re not worth your time. Don’t make a big deal out of it—just be casual—and let them ask questions as they come up. They’re less likely to be awkward if you’re not awkward about it. I tried cramming as many blind jokes as possible into my first few conversations to get any residual awkwardness out of the way. Tell them you’re open to questions and most importantly, have confidence in yourself. If they don’t react well, you can try to make that an educational moment if you like. You’re going to make plenty of friends anyway though, and you have our support. If you want to have a more in-depth conversation, I’m available off list. 

Best,
CXB 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 18:23, Cory McMahon via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I will forever appreciate my friend, Gary, and his sense of humor!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Cory McMahon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:05 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> That makes sense to me. I think those things can either be done in advance or as easily done face-to-face. Again, I have no real point to sell. There are times when it makes sense to me to speak early about the fact I am blind and at other times it doesn't seem to matter. I've seen this question in relation to dating sites, but I am happily married, am sixty-five, and the only way I'll find myself on a dating site is if I click the wrong link in a spam message. I use Earthlink as one of my accounts, have had the account for about twenty-five years, openly advertised my address as a former national board member and state president, and almost begged people to reach out for help. So on that account I'm on everyone's list--want to grow hair again; want a cure for your arthritis pain; want burial insurance, want help being more frisky with the one you love? Nothing is sacred. I suspect if the algorithms were a little less artificial and a little more intelligent, they'd try selling me carrots to heal my blindness.
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Gary
> 
> P.S. I congratulate you on being a scholarship winner. I got Covid right before the convention and ducked out of any real responsibility as a mentor. I regret that and even more now that we have had a chance to chat.
> 
> GW
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:04 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> Hi Gary, 
> 
> What I liked about what you said is that it really made me think. I agree that it makes sense to have a reason behind telling someone about your vision. For example, saying "hey as long as you keep the bathroom door shut when you're in there and open it when you are done, we'll be good". Also, "hey since we're sharing a washer and dryer, I might need to put some markings on the washer and dryer so I can do my own laundry". 
> 
> When it comes to living with someone else, that is really the only big things that I can at least think of. 
> 
> Thank you for your response! 
> 
> Regards,
> Nic 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:24 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 
> 
> One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.
> 
> I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.
> 
> Gary
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 5:46 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> Hi Justin, 
> 
> I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 
> 
> Nic 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Justin Williams via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:50 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Justin Williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.
> 
> No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.
> 
> We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
> 
> I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?
> 
> If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.
> 
> Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  
> 
> If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
> I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry Staley via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.
> 
> Harry Staley
> (330) 718-1876
> hstaley at nfbtx.org
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
>> 
>> HTH,
>>>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. Students 
>>> are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among themselves. There 
>>> are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> solutions. <http://tylerlittlefield.me> My personal site 
>> <http://tysdomain.com> My Linkedin 
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From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 02:46:15 2020
From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 21:46:15 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
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I love the tactic of making blindness jokes as a way of "breaking the ice." I also let people know that I'm not offended if they make them, too.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:10 PM
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Cc: Cricket Bidleman <cricketbidleman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

I realize I’m late to the party and this has probably already been said, but I don’t think there’s much point in avoiding disclosure. Blindness is a part of who you are, and if your roommates can’t accept that, they’re not worth your time. Don’t make a big deal out of it—just be casual—and let them ask questions as they come up. They’re less likely to be awkward if you’re not awkward about it. I tried cramming as many blind jokes as possible into my first few conversations to get any residual awkwardness out of the way. Tell them you’re open to questions and most importantly, have confidence in yourself. If they don’t react well, you can try to make that an educational moment if you like. You’re going to make plenty of friends anyway though, and you have our support. If you want to have a more in-depth conversation, I’m available off list. 

Best,
CXB 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 18:23, Cory McMahon via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I will forever appreciate my friend, Gary, and his sense of humor!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Cory McMahon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:05 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> That makes sense to me. I think those things can either be done in advance or as easily done face-to-face. Again, I have no real point to sell. There are times when it makes sense to me to speak early about the fact I am blind and at other times it doesn't seem to matter. I've seen this question in relation to dating sites, but I am happily married, am sixty-five, and the only way I'll find myself on a dating site is if I click the wrong link in a spam message. I use Earthlink as one of my accounts, have had the account for about twenty-five years, openly advertised my address as a former national board member and state president, and almost begged people to reach out for help. So on that account I'm on everyone's list--want to grow hair again; want a cure for your arthritis pain; want burial insurance, want help being more frisky with the one you love? Nothing is sacred. I suspect if the algorithms were a little less artificial and a little more intelligent, they'd try selling me carrots to heal my blindness.
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Gary
> 
> P.S. I congratulate you on being a scholarship winner. I got Covid right before the convention and ducked out of any real responsibility as a mentor. I regret that and even more now that we have had a chance to chat.
> 
> GW
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:04 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> What I liked about what you said is that it really made me think. I agree that it makes sense to have a reason behind telling someone about your vision. For example, saying "hey as long as you keep the bathroom door shut when you're in there and open it when you are done, we'll be good". Also, "hey since we're sharing a washer and dryer, I might need to put some markings on the washer and dryer so I can do my own laundry". 
> 
> When it comes to living with someone else, that is really the only big things that I can at least think of. 
> 
> Thank you for your response! 
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:24 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 
> 
> One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.
> 
> I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.
> 
> Gary
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 5:46 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
> I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 
> 
> Nic
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Justin Williams 
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:50 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Justin Williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.
> 
> No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.
> 
> We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
> 
> I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?
> 
> If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.
> 
> Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  
> 
> If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
> I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry 
> Staley via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:14 PM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students 
> mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.
> 
> Harry Staley
> (330) 718-1876
> hstaley at nfbtx.org
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
>> 
>> HTH,
>>>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. 
>>> Students are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among 
>>> themselves. There are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From jfayre at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 03:05:58 2020
From: jfayre at gmail.com (jfayre at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 22:05:58 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] audio description of the beirut explosion
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Sent: August 5, 2020 2:51 PM
Subject: Audio description of the Beirut explosion





A while ago, a post was sent out about a new podcast called Talk 
Description to Me. It's a conversation between myself, Christine 
Malec, and audio describer JJ Hunt. We explore the visuals of current 
events, both light-hearted and intense. Today we recorded an intense, 
unscheduled episode about the visuals of the Beirut explosion. It's a 
rare chance for blind and low vision people to get descriptions of 
news in such a timely way. You can find Talk Description to Me on 
your podcast ap of choice, or go to the home page at 
<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkdescriptiontome.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2a71f8b00c8a41b022ab08d839728b83%7Cfbd8a8d99ca948378d3ba5982af51080%7C0%7C0%7C637322511432609209&sdata=%2BHIwCGMh%2BZmtObb1Zwz5v5fVxdFwph%2FvFZtgpsCNxx0%3D&reserved=0>www.TalkDescriptionToMe.com 


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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 05:29:00 2020
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 01:29:00 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
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Blind jokes can be funny and are kind of cool, but be weary because people will use that as a license to make them at inappropriate and unprofessional times.  I've had opportunities damaged, or conversational contexts changed all of a sudden when I was trying to make a serious point, so I've nearly ceased them or even reacting to them over the years.  
They can break the ice, but I have just personally found that they have gotten out of hand and give the wrong impression to often if not used properly and can cause people to not take you seriously.  

However, if you have the personality to make them work, you should use them they can because they can be good icebreakers.

I just don't really have the personality to make them work for the most part without exerting myself internally to be patient with that.

I've made blind jokes with people, and then when I wanted a them to help me get a job they wouldn't because of blindness.

Thanks,

Justin


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Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?

I realize I’m late to the party and this has probably already been said, but I don’t think there’s much point in avoiding disclosure. Blindness is a part of who you are, and if your roommates can’t accept that, they’re not worth your time. Don’t make a big deal out of it—just be casual—and let them ask questions as they come up. They’re less likely to be awkward if you’re not awkward about it. I tried cramming as many blind jokes as possible into my first few conversations to get any residual awkwardness out of the way. Tell them you’re open to questions and most importantly, have confidence in yourself. If they don’t react well, you can try to make that an educational moment if you like. You’re going to make plenty of friends anyway though, and you have our support. If you want to have a more in-depth conversation, I’m available off list. 

Best,
CXB 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 18:23, Cory McMahon via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I will forever appreciate my friend, Gary, and his sense of humor!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Cory McMahon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:05 PM
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> Cc: Gary Wunder <garywunder at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> That makes sense to me. I think those things can either be done in advance or as easily done face-to-face. Again, I have no real point to sell. There are times when it makes sense to me to speak early about the fact I am blind and at other times it doesn't seem to matter. I've seen this question in relation to dating sites, but I am happily married, am sixty-five, and the only way I'll find myself on a dating site is if I click the wrong link in a spam message. I use Earthlink as one of my accounts, have had the account for about twenty-five years, openly advertised my address as a former national board member and state president, and almost begged people to reach out for help. So on that account I'm on everyone's list--want to grow hair again; want a cure for your arthritis pain; want burial insurance, want help being more frisky with the one you love? Nothing is sacred. I suspect if the algorithms were a little less artificial and a little more intelligent, they'd try selling me carrots to heal my blindness.
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Gary
> 
> P.S. I congratulate you on being a scholarship winner. I got Covid right before the convention and ducked out of any real responsibility as a mentor. I regret that and even more now that we have had a chance to chat.
> 
> GW
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:04 PM
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> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> What I liked about what you said is that it really made me think. I agree that it makes sense to have a reason behind telling someone about your vision. For example, saying "hey as long as you keep the bathroom door shut when you're in there and open it when you are done, we'll be good". Also, "hey since we're sharing a washer and dryer, I might need to put some markings on the washer and dryer so I can do my own laundry". 
> 
> When it comes to living with someone else, that is really the only big things that I can at least think of. 
> 
> Thank you for your response! 
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> NABS-L
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> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roommates?
> 
> Hi, Nick. I started college in 1973. We did not know who our roommates were going to be so there was no disclosure and no problem. My roommates only reaction was, "Cool dog," and later "I'd appreciate it if you picked up your underwear before my parents once again come to visit." 
> 
> One question for you: What is it about blindness that deserves a heads-up? Sometimes there are good reasons to say I am blind. I want my Uber to yell out to me and not leave because I don't approach. I may want things in a format I can read. But, at least from my limited perspective, you wouldn't tell them that you are white or black; you wouldn't tell them you were fat or tall and skinny; you would be more likely to tell them you snore.
> 
> I have no real feeling about what you should do, but I throw this out for you to think about.
> 
> Gary
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of nspohn0--- via 
> NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 5:46 PM
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> Cc: nspohn0 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
> I appreciate how you framed both ways of looking at it. 
> 
> Nic
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Justin Williams 
> via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 4:50 PM
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> Cc: Justin Williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> So, before I go into my answer, I would like to just say that I'm giving you a differ spin and philosophy to think about.
> 
> No, why would you disclose your disability, in this case, blindness to your college roomates.
> 
> We are not out here to make people comfortable, and ask permission to exist.
> 
> I'll bet none of them are disclosing any hidden disabilities they have to you, ar they?
> 
> If they do, then disclose your blindness if you are so inclined, but you, as far as they should be concerned, are just  another college student.
> 
> Of course, do what makes you feel comfortable, but off handedly, as you think it is, trust me, it isn't because it is super random and not even in their consciousness until you put it there.  
> 
> If you feel more comfortable however, then do it, tell them.
> I don't want to have you be uncomfortable because you didn't do it.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Harry 
> Staley via NABS-L
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> Cc: Harry Staley <hstaley at nfbtx.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Do you Disclose Vision to College Roomates?
> 
> No I didn’t. It actually never came up Iin conversation until a few weeks later after we got to know each other a bit better.
> 
> Harry Staley
> (330) 718-1876
> hstaley at nfbtx.org
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:47, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> I like to just offhandedly mention it. "I just wanted to let you know that I'm <insert blindness level here>, please feel free to ask me any questions now or at any other point, I'm open to it." It's easier to get that out in a text and give them some chances to figure things out than it is to just be like oh hey I'm blind. If I have the chance to tell someone ahead of time I do, and it tends to make the first meeting and etc less awkward. It also allows them to ask initial questions, even "stupid" ones through text where they have a buffer, and as a result you spend less time awkwardly trying to dance around issues they don't want to ask in person.
>> 
>> HTH,
>>>> On 8/2/2020 1:17 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be a college freshman this fall. My Move in day is August 
>>> 22nd, so it is coming up quickly! Do you disclose your visual 
>>> impairment/blindness to your college dorm roommates?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will be living in an apartment style. The four of us each have our 
>>> own room and there are two bathrooms, 2 people per bathroom. 
>>> Students are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms among 
>>> themselves. There are also 2 washers and dryers that the four of us will share.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have started to text each of my roommates. We have been talking 
>>> about what we are majoring in, things we like to do, etc. I would 
>>> love to have multiple opinions on this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Nic
>>> 
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From sandragayer7 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 12:08:03 2020
From: sandragayer7 at gmail.com (Sandra Gayer)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 13:08:03 +0100
Subject: [NABS-L] Transcribing Music into Braille Music
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Hello Ahbee,
I am a Braille Music Teacher. I have used Braille Music and More as
well. It's worth having a range of transcribers as they can get busy
with big contracts sometimes which isn't helpful if you need Braille
Music quickly. MENVI is an NFB list I suggest you subscribe to. There
are music educators there and lots of transcribers.

Very best wishes,
Sandra.

On 8/5/20, Emily Bowe via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Ahbee! I recommend Braille Music and More, www.brailllemusicandmore.com.
> I think the rate per Braille page is $10, it may be less. They can send it
> to you in a BRF format or emboss it. Their turnaround time is fantastic and
> they transcribe all kinds of music.
>
> -- Emily Bowe
>
>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 16:26, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am wondering if there are a few people or groups who transcribe vocal
>> music that is in print into braille music for college students? I am
>> taking Chorale at my college again this semester, and I would like not
>> only the lyrics but the music notations too. I know there is an expensive
>> software by Dancing Dots or GoodFeel or something like that , but I am
>> looking also for options that are less expensive.
>> Thank you.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Ahbee
>>
>> Vice President, AABS
>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is
>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not
>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in
>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,
>> always hopes, always perseveres.”
>> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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From jessandellie101611 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 12:47:03 2020
From: jessandellie101611 at gmail.com (Jess Trask)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 08:47:03 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Orbit Writer Braille Keyboard Smartphone Companion
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Hi Ian,
It looked up the orbit Writer and it racially doesn't have a Braille
display that's why it's so cheap . APH sells a few cheaper alternatives to
a the traditional Braille notwtaker cost wise. One is called Chameleon 20.
Are  you working with Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor at state services
for the blind in your state? Orbit Reader is also on the orbit research
page.Also you can buy the orbit reader of Maxi Aids.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 11:35 AM Ian Perrault via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi All,
> Have you ever used the Orbit Writer Braille Keyboard Smartphone Companion?
> It sounds like it's tiny, and it may make texting, and typing easier, on a
> laptop. I do have a Brailliant braille display, but this seems tiny and
> easy to use. It's only $99. Thoughts?
> Ian
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From thflute at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 13:53:05 2020
From: thflute at gmail.com (Tara Briggs)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 07:53:05 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
Message-ID: <705C8988-E925-4027-A5FA-85E892598C97@gmail.com>

Hi all! I don’t know anything about studying architecture in college. However, there is a blind architect who has connections to the NFB. This architect was on 60 minutes. He designed the lighthouse for the blind when they remodeled. The director of the lighthouse for the blind is blind himself and spoke at the 2019 NFB national convention. I think that perhaps the national office could help facilitate some mentoring opportunities. Good luck in your major. I definitely think it’s possible!
Tara

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jesse Fung via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 


From robin-melvin at comcast.net  Thu Aug  6 15:26:11 2020
From: robin-melvin at comcast.net (Robin)
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 08:26:11 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
In-Reply-To: <705C8988-E925-4027-A5FA-85E892598C97@gmail.com>
References: <705C8988-E925-4027-A5FA-85E892598C97@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20200806082348.050e7e38@comcast.net>

You're Referrin'To Mr. Chris Downey, as He 
was  "The One"  ShowCased  on CBS's 60Minutes
(I  Think) He resides in NorthernCalifornia i.e., 
BayArea,CA  and/or San Francisco Bay Area


At 06:53 AM 8/6/2020, you wrote:
>Hi all! I don’t know anything about studying 
>architecture in college. However, there is a 
>blind architect who has connections to the NFB. 
>This architect was on 60 minutes. He designed 
>the lighthouse for the blind when they 
>remodeled. The director of the lighthouse for 
>the blind is blind himself and spoke at the 2019 
>NFB national convention. I think that perhaps 
>the national office could help facilitate some 
>mentoring opportunities. Good luck in your 
>major. I definitely think it’s possible! Tara 
>Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2020, at 6:14 
>PM, Jesse Fung via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>wrote: > 
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug  6 15:26:28 2020
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:26:28 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
In-Reply-To: <705C8988-E925-4027-A5FA-85E892598C97@gmail.com>
References: <705C8988-E925-4027-A5FA-85E892598C97@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03d901d66c05$f50f8680$df2e9380$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,

A small detail was he did this before being blind and the spot said he has an administrative role now.
Possible doesn't always mean practical.
Bryan


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Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 8:53 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Tara Briggs <thflute at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Architecture in College

Hi all! I don’t know anything about studying architecture in college. However, there is a blind architect who has connections to the NFB. This architect was on 60 minutes. He designed the lighthouse for the blind when they remodeled. The director of the lighthouse for the blind is blind himself and spoke at the 2019 NFB national convention. I think that perhaps the national office could help facilitate some mentoring opportunities. Good luck in your major. I definitely think it’s possible!
Tara

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jesse Fung via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 

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From gene.sh.kim at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 00:48:34 2020
From: gene.sh.kim at gmail.com (Gene Kim)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 17:48:34 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Textbook recommendations
Message-ID: <CAEvYTGMaOnCv6AMAZP+oV3MsSa+NgAwVZoMj7yN_91J_HD3iYA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,



This might be a bit strange and somewhat vague, but does anyone have any
textbook recommendations (preferably viewable on Bookshare or a similar
platform) for someone interested in too many things to fit into one set of
college courses? I’m interested in exploring so many things, but don’t have
much time to work through full-length coursework (whether at my institution
or using a free online resource) unrelated to my chosen major, so I’m
trying to find quality textbooks I can read in bursts of free time.
Linguistics, chemistry, biology, pure math, quantum/theoretical physics,
business/entrepreneurship, history, communication, East Asian culture, and
creative writing/narrative theory are some topics that come to mind, but
really I’m open to anything. I don't have formal experience with any of
these at the college level.



Thanks in advance for any suggestions, haha.



Kindly,

Gene

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From amyralbin at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 01:43:03 2020
From: amyralbin at gmail.com (Amy Albin)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 21:43:03 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Textbook recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAEvYTGMaOnCv6AMAZP+oV3MsSa+NgAwVZoMj7yN_91J_HD3iYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEvYTGMaOnCv6AMAZP+oV3MsSa+NgAwVZoMj7yN_91J_HD3iYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC5mtjHoaNag02FR0x2XW-5nfB0J3KDi1CfxcjO-8i2TsFi5dg@mail.gmail.com>

Read Douglas Hofstadter.

On 8/6/20, Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
>
>
> This might be a bit strange and somewhat vague, but does anyone have any
> textbook recommendations (preferably viewable on Bookshare or a similar
> platform) for someone interested in too many things to fit into one set of
> college courses? I’m interested in exploring so many things, but don’t have
> much time to work through full-length coursework (whether at my institution
> or using a free online resource) unrelated to my chosen major, so I’m
> trying to find quality textbooks I can read in bursts of free time.
> Linguistics, chemistry, biology, pure math, quantum/theoretical physics,
> business/entrepreneurship, history, communication, East Asian culture, and
> creative writing/narrative theory are some topics that come to mind, but
> really I’m open to anything. I don't have formal experience with any of
> these at the college level.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, haha.
>
>
>
> Kindly,
>
> Gene
>
> --
>
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>
> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 05:03:14 2020
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 22:03:14 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Textbook recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAEvYTGMaOnCv6AMAZP+oV3MsSa+NgAwVZoMj7yN_91J_HD3iYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEvYTGMaOnCv6AMAZP+oV3MsSa+NgAwVZoMj7yN_91J_HD3iYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D9DB2BA-7DCD-4467-8DD4-4ED105D650B9@gmail.com>

Hi Gene, 
That's a great, vast range of interests, which will serve you well. 
I can't think of a textbook that would cover all these things, but you might enjoy the author Malcolm Gladwell, who has at least a few books on Bookshare. He writes about how people work and make decisions. He uses historical examples and also incorporates some scientific and statistical material as well. 
Vejas 

> On Aug 6, 2020, at 17:50, Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> This might be a bit strange and somewhat vague, but does anyone have any
> textbook recommendations (preferably viewable on Bookshare or a similar
> platform) for someone interested in too many things to fit into one set of
> college courses? I’m interested in exploring so many things, but don’t have
> much time to work through full-length coursework (whether at my institution
> or using a free online resource) unrelated to my chosen major, so I’m
> trying to find quality textbooks I can read in bursts of free time.
> Linguistics, chemistry, biology, pure math, quantum/theoretical physics,
> business/entrepreneurship, history, communication, East Asian culture, and
> creative writing/narrative theory are some topics that come to mind, but
> really I’m open to anything. I don't have formal experience with any of
> these at the college level.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, haha.
> 
> 
> 
> Kindly,
> 
> Gene
> 
> --
> 
> Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. Candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford University
> 
> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
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From saralavelm at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 12:32:41 2020
From: saralavelm at gmail.com (Sara Mornis)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:32:41 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] BrailleSense U2
Message-ID: <FF9068C0-31C8-47C5-B137-84D3489CECC5@gmail.com>

Hello NABS!
Is anyone interested in purchasing a BrailleSense U2? Ive had it for over a year, but it’s still in great working condition since I’ve barely used it. I’d be willing to sell it for half price
let me know
Thanks!
Have a great day everyone!
Sara Mornis
 

Sent from my iPhone

From jtschwoebel at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  7 12:48:51 2020
From: jtschwoebel at yahoo.com (Jackson Schwoebel)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:48:51 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Question Regarding College
Message-ID: <mailman.370.1772982289.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

NABS Members,

Hello, everyone, I hope all of you are doing well. I am sending out this email to ask a college question. Currently, I am attending a community college. I will graduate in the Spring of 2021. I was wondering when I transfer to University; am I able to start in the Summer 2021 semester? Or will I have to wait until the Fall semester to start? Please let me know if any of you have done this before, or what you think about this. Hope to hear from you soon.

Kind Regards,

Jackson Schwoebel



From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 12:57:00 2020
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 08:57:00 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Question Regarding College
Message-ID: <5f2d4f9e.1c69fb81.1a53a.8257@mx.google.com>

Yes you are able to start in the Summer of 20201. Be sure to fill out your Fafsa.

On Aug 7, 2020 8:48 AM, Jackson Schwoebel via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> NABS Members, 
>
> Hello, everyone, I hope all of you are doing well. I am sending out this email to ask a college question. Currently, I am attending a community college. I will graduate in the Spring of 2021. I was wondering when I transfer to University; am I able to start in the Summer 2021 semester? Or will I have to wait until the Fall semester to start? Please let me know if any of you have done this before, or what you think about this. Hope to hear from you soon. 
>
> Kind Regards, 
>
> Jackson Schwoebel 
>
>
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From gretch99brown at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 13:02:21 2020
From: gretch99brown at gmail.com (Gretchen Brown)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:02:21 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] textbook resources
Message-ID: <CAPvGaBqmS_z=Ocy8E4ciD4xepGKhhQUyE871Mq8w_EsqDPnegw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, I have used redshelf successfully with JAWS. It is easy to
navigate, but there is no way that I have found to read the books on a
braille display by downloading them.  The textbooks are priced the
same as they would be for a hard cover textbook.  They have several
of options available.   Also, try checking out gutenberg press, they
might have a few books that are helpful. I can send you the links to
the websites if that would help. Thanks, Gretchen Brown
Gretch99Brown at gmail.com

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>    1. Re: Transcribing Music into Braille Music (Sandra Gayer)
>    2. Re: Orbit Writer Braille Keyboard Smartphone Companion
>       (Jess Trask)
>    3. Re: Architecture in College (Tara Briggs)
>    4. Re: Architecture in College (Robin)
>    5. Re: Architecture in College (Bryan Schulz)
>    6. Textbook recommendations (Gene Kim)
>    7. Re: Textbook recommendations (Amy Albin)
>    8. Re: Textbook recommendations (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 13:08:03 +0100
> From: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Transcribing Music into Braille Music
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>
> Hello Ahbee,
> I am a Braille Music Teacher. I have used Braille Music and More as
> well. It's worth having a range of transcribers as they can get busy
> with big contracts sometimes which isn't helpful if you need Braille
> Music quickly. MENVI is an NFB list I suggest you subscribe to. There
> are music educators there and lots of transcribers.
>
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
>
> On 8/5/20, Emily Bowe via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Ahbee! I recommend Braille Music and More,
>> www.brailllemusicandmore.com.
>> I think the rate per Braille page is $10, it may be less. They can send
>> it
>> to you in a BRF format or emboss it. Their turnaround time is fantastic
>> and
>> they transcribe all kinds of music.
>>
>> -- Emily Bowe
>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 16:26, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am wondering if there are a few people or groups who transcribe vocal
>>> music that is in print into braille music for college students? I am
>>> taking Chorale at my college again this semester, and I would like not
>>> only the lyrics but the music notations too. I know there is an
>>> expensive
>>> software by Dancing Dots or GoodFeel or something like that , but I am
>>> looking also for options that are less expensive.
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Ahbee
>>>
>>> Vice President, AABS
>>> ?Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it
>>> is
>>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is
>>> not
>>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in
>>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,
>>> always hopes, always perseveres.?
>>> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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>
>
> --
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>
> Soprano Singer
> www.sandragayer.com
>
> Broadcast Presenter
> www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html
>
> Actor
> www.visablepeople.com
>
> Voiceover Artist
> www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 08:47:03 -0400
> From: Jess Trask <jessandellie101611 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Orbit Writer Braille Keyboard Smartphone
> 	Companion
> Message-ID:
> 	<CA+gC3JEgpnU63N9LQcYM-sXDTo7hjv78fspQcvPxzpr3FOxCYg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Ian,
> It looked up the orbit Writer and it racially doesn't have a Braille
> display that's why it's so cheap . APH sells a few cheaper alternatives to
> a the traditional Braille notwtaker cost wise. One is called Chameleon 20.
> Are  you working with Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor at state services
> for the blind in your state? Orbit Reader is also on the orbit research
> page.Also you can buy the orbit reader of Maxi Aids.
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 11:35 AM Ian Perrault via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Have you ever used the Orbit Writer Braille Keyboard Smartphone
>> Companion?
>> It sounds like it's tiny, and it may make texting, and typing easier, on
>> a
>> laptop. I do have a Brailliant braille display, but this seems tiny and
>> easy to use. It's only $99. Thoughts?
>> Ian
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 07:53:05 -0600
> From: Tara Briggs <thflute at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
> Message-ID: <705C8988-E925-4027-A5FA-85E892598C97 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi all! I don?t know anything about studying architecture in college.
> However, there is a blind architect who has connections to the NFB. This
> architect was on 60 minutes. He designed the lighthouse for the blind when
> they remodeled. The director of the lighthouse for the blind is blind
> himself and spoke at the 2019 NFB national convention. I think that perhaps
> the national office could help facilitate some mentoring opportunities. Good
> luck in your major. I definitely think it?s possible!
> Tara
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jesse Fung via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 08:26:11 -0700
> From: Robin <robin-melvin at comcast.net>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20200806082348.050e7e38 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> You're Referrin'To Mr. Chris Downey, as He
> was  "The One"  ShowCased  on CBS's 60Minutes
> (I  Think) He resides in NorthernCalifornia i.e.,
> BayArea,CA  and/or San Francisco Bay Area
>
>
> At 06:53 AM 8/6/2020, you wrote:
>>Hi all! I don???t know anything about studying
>>architecture in college. However, there is a
>>blind architect who has connections to the NFB.
>>This architect was on 60 minutes. He designed
>>the lighthouse for the blind when they
>>remodeled. The director of the lighthouse for
>>the blind is blind himself and spoke at the 2019
>>NFB national convention. I think that perhaps
>>the national office could help facilitate some
>>mentoring opportunities. Good luck in your
>>major. I definitely think it???s possible! Tara
>>Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2020, at 6:14
>>PM, Jesse Fung via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>wrote: >
>>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:26:28 -0500
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
> Message-ID: <03d901d66c05$f50f8680$df2e9380$@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi,
>
> A small detail was he did this before being blind and the spot said he has
> an administrative role now.
> Possible doesn't always mean practical.
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tara Briggs via
> NABS-L
> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 8:53 AM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Tara Briggs <thflute at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Architecture in College
>
> Hi all! I don?t know anything about studying architecture in college.
> However, there is a blind architect who has connections to the NFB. This
> architect was on 60 minutes. He designed the lighthouse for the blind when
> they remodeled. The director of the lighthouse for the blind is blind
> himself and spoke at the 2019 NFB national convention. I think that perhaps
> the national office could help facilitate some mentoring opportunities. Good
> luck in your major. I definitely think it?s possible!
> Tara
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jesse Fung via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>
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> Hey everyone,
>
>
>
> This might be a bit strange and somewhat vague, but does anyone have any
> textbook recommendations (preferably viewable on Bookshare or a similar
> platform) for someone interested in too many things to fit into one set of
> college courses? I?m interested in exploring so many things, but don?t have
> much time to work through full-length coursework (whether at my institution
> or using a free online resource) unrelated to my chosen major, so I?m
> trying to find quality textbooks I can read in bursts of free time.
> Linguistics, chemistry, biology, pure math, quantum/theoretical physics,
> business/entrepreneurship, history, communication, East Asian culture, and
> creative writing/narrative theory are some topics that come to mind, but
> really I?m open to anything. I don't have formal experience with any of
> these at the college level.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, haha.
>
>
>
> Kindly,
>
> Gene
>
> --
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>
> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 21:43:03 -0400
> From: Amy Albin <amyralbin at gmail.com>
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> Read Douglas Hofstadter.
>
> On 8/6/20, Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> This might be a bit strange and somewhat vague, but does anyone have any
>> textbook recommendations (preferably viewable on Bookshare or a similar
>> platform) for someone interested in too many things to fit into one set
>> of
>> college courses? I?m interested in exploring so many things, but don?t
>> have
>> much time to work through full-length coursework (whether at my
>> institution
>> or using a free online resource) unrelated to my chosen major, so I?m
>> trying to find quality textbooks I can read in bursts of free time.
>> Linguistics, chemistry, biology, pure math, quantum/theoretical physics,
>> business/entrepreneurship, history, communication, East Asian culture,
>> and
>> creative writing/narrative theory are some topics that come to mind, but
>> really I?m open to anything. I don't have formal experience with any of
>> these at the college level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, haha.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindly,
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> --
>>
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>>
>> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
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> Hi Gene,
> That's a great, vast range of interests, which will serve you well.
> I can't think of a textbook that would cover all these things, but you might
> enjoy the author Malcolm Gladwell, who has at least a few books on
> Bookshare. He writes about how people work and make decisions. He uses
> historical examples and also incorporates some scientific and statistical
> material as well.
> Vejas
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 17:50, Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hey everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> This might be a bit strange and somewhat vague, but does anyone have any
>> textbook recommendations (preferably viewable on Bookshare or a similar
>> platform) for someone interested in too many things to fit into one set
>> of
>> college courses? I?m interested in exploring so many things, but don?t
>> have
>> much time to work through full-length coursework (whether at my
>> institution
>> or using a free online resource) unrelated to my chosen major, so I?m
>> trying to find quality textbooks I can read in bursts of free time.
>> Linguistics, chemistry, biology, pure math, quantum/theoretical physics,
>> business/entrepreneurship, history, communication, East Asian culture,
>> and
>> creative writing/narrative theory are some topics that come to mind, but
>> really I?m open to anything. I don't have formal experience with any of
>> these at the college level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, haha.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindly,
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. Candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford University
>>
>> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
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From ctate2076 at att.net  Fri Aug  7 13:11:48 2020
From: ctate2076 at att.net (ctate2076 at att.net)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 09:11:48 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Question Regarding College
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Hi Jackson: 

Generally speaking, you should check if your community college has any
Direct Connect programs with any four year colleges. Additionally, you can
apply for admission by the deadline dates for transfer students, sometimes
up to a year prior to when you are seeking admission. No admissions
decisions will be final until all final transcripts are received, so
depending on the timing of each semester start date and end date may
determine if you can gain admission in time for summer session. 

Camille 

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NABS Members,

Hello, everyone, I hope all of you are doing well. I am sending out this
email to ask a college question. Currently, I am attending a community
college. I will graduate in the Spring of 2021. I was wondering when I
transfer to University; am I able to start in the Summer 2021 semester? Or
will I have to wait until the Fall semester to start? Please let me know if
any of you have done this before, or what you think about this. Hope to hear
from you soon.

Kind Regards,

Jackson Schwoebel


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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 16:23:49 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:23:49 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps
Message-ID: <002b01d66cd7$22639b90$672ad2b0$@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, 

 

I had a meeting recently with my disability office coordinator and he asked
me how I take notes. In high school, I took notes mainly by myself. I typed
my notes in Word.

 

I know that as an engineering student, things will get more complicated and
it may be good to have either a note taker or have some kind of app to use
for notetaking. I think I want to try and not have a note taker because I am
an auditoary learner. If someone handwrites notes, I am unable to magnify
them. I have also heard that sometimes professors will move quickly and the
student is just along for the ride (depending on the professor of course). 

 

Are there any notetaking apps where you can record a lecture and then have
the audio be converted into a transcript? Are there any apps where you can
type your notes as you are recording the lecture so that you can review your
notes that were taken at the given time point? 

 

Thank You, 

Nic 

 

 


From maria.lu.monteiro.oliveira at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 16:37:47 2020
From: maria.lu.monteiro.oliveira at gmail.com (MariaLu Monteiro-Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:37:47 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps
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Greetings! Don’t know if this is exactly what you were looking for, but I am fond of using OneNote. Not only can you have different notebooks for each subject, but you can divide each notebook by units, and create individual pages inside each section. You can’t exactly record in the app, but you can attach files, both text files and audio files, in the notebook, to have them in one spot. So you could later take notes on your lecture recordings, in the same page, if you so desired. You can also attach links, as sources and reference points. Very helpful, when you read an article you’d like to keep, for future reading, but you don’t know where to put it and how to remind yourself of it.  I am extremely scattered,  however, OneNote makes it hard to not be organized.

“Do not be overcome with hate, but overcome hate with love.” -St Maximos
“Let all that you do be done with love.” 1 Corinthians 16:14
“Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.” Proverbs 10:12

> On Aug 7, 2020, at 12:27 PM, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> 
> 
> I had a meeting recently with my disability office coordinator and he asked
> me how I take notes. In high school, I took notes mainly by myself. I typed
> my notes in Word.
> 
> 
> 
> I know that as an engineering student, things will get more complicated and
> it may be good to have either a note taker or have some kind of app to use
> for notetaking. I think I want to try and not have a note taker because I am
> an auditoary learner. If someone handwrites notes, I am unable to magnify
> them. I have also heard that sometimes professors will move quickly and the
> student is just along for the ride (depending on the professor of course). 
> 
> 
> 
> Are there any notetaking apps where you can record a lecture and then have
> the audio be converted into a transcript? Are there any apps where you can
> type your notes as you are recording the lecture so that you can review your
> notes that were taken at the given time point? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You, 
> 
> Nic 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Fri Aug  7 16:44:28 2020
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 16:44:28 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps
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Hello Nic,

I will recommend the Orbit 20 (or the Orbit 40) for note taking.  It is portable, has a long battery life, and almost instant on.  

If you are going to use a laptop for notes, take notes with notepad, which will be faster for notetaking than MS word.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps

Hi everyone, 

 

I had a meeting recently with my disability office coordinator and he asked me how I take notes. In high school, I took notes mainly by myself. I typed my notes in Word.

 

I know that as an engineering student, things will get more complicated and it may be good to have either a note taker or have some kind of app to use for notetaking. I think I want to try and not have a note taker because I am an auditoary learner. If someone handwrites notes, I am unable to magnify them. I have also heard that sometimes professors will move quickly and the student is just along for the ride (depending on the professor of course). 

 

Are there any notetaking apps where you can record a lecture and then have the audio be converted into a transcript? Are there any apps where you can type your notes as you are recording the lecture so that you can review your notes that were taken at the given time point? 

 

Thank You, 

Nic 

 

 

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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Fri Aug  7 16:45:18 2020
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 16:45:18 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps
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The Orbit Research web site is
http://www.orbitresearch.com/


Regards
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E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps

Hi everyone, 

 

I had a meeting recently with my disability office coordinator and he asked me how I take notes. In high school, I took notes mainly by myself. I typed my notes in Word.

 

I know that as an engineering student, things will get more complicated and it may be good to have either a note taker or have some kind of app to use for notetaking. I think I want to try and not have a note taker because I am an auditoary learner. If someone handwrites notes, I am unable to magnify them. I have also heard that sometimes professors will move quickly and the student is just along for the ride (depending on the professor of course). 

 

Are there any notetaking apps where you can record a lecture and then have the audio be converted into a transcript? Are there any apps where you can type your notes as you are recording the lecture so that you can review your notes that were taken at the given time point? 

 

Thank You, 

Nic 

 

 

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From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 18:32:18 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 14:32:18 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps
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Hi Louis, 

Thank you for the suggestions. I did not realize Notepad can work better
than Word since they are both similar. Are there certain aspects of Notepad
that you find better than Word or is it just that it glitches less with a
screen reader? 

Thank You,
Nic 



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Hello Nic,

I will recommend the Orbit 20 (or the Orbit 40) for note taking.  It is
portable, has a long battery life, and almost instant on.  

If you are going to use a laptop for notes, take notes with notepad, which
will be faster for notetaking than MS word.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps

Hi everyone, 

 

I had a meeting recently with my disability office coordinator and he asked
me how I take notes. In high school, I took notes mainly by myself. I typed
my notes in Word.

 

I know that as an engineering student, things will get more complicated and
it may be good to have either a note taker or have some kind of app to use
for notetaking. I think I want to try and not have a note taker because I am
an auditoary learner. If someone handwrites notes, I am unable to magnify
them. I have also heard that sometimes professors will move quickly and the
student is just along for the ride (depending on the professor of course). 

 

Are there any notetaking apps where you can record a lecture and then have
the audio be converted into a transcript? Are there any apps where you can
type your notes as you are recording the lecture so that you can review your
notes that were taken at the given time point? 

 

Thank You, 

Nic 

 

 

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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 18:39:03 2020
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 14:39:03 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps
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You can use the iPhone  notes app, and there are some notetaking apps you
can get in the app store.

Thanks,

Justin


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Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps

Hi Louis, 

Thank you for the suggestions. I did not realize Notepad can work better
than Word since they are both similar. Are there certain aspects of Notepad
that you find better than Word or is it just that it glitches less with a
screen reader? 

Thank You,
Nic 



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Subject: RE: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps

Hello Nic,

I will recommend the Orbit 20 (or the Orbit 40) for note taking.  It is
portable, has a long battery life, and almost instant on.  

If you are going to use a laptop for notes, take notes with notepad, which
will be faster for notetaking than MS word.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps

Hi everyone, 

 

I had a meeting recently with my disability office coordinator and he asked
me how I take notes. In high school, I took notes mainly by myself. I typed
my notes in Word.

 

I know that as an engineering student, things will get more complicated and
it may be good to have either a note taker or have some kind of app to use
for notetaking. I think I want to try and not have a note taker because I am
an auditoary learner. If someone handwrites notes, I am unable to magnify
them. I have also heard that sometimes professors will move quickly and the
student is just along for the ride (depending on the professor of course). 

 

Are there any notetaking apps where you can record a lecture and then have
the audio be converted into a transcript? Are there any apps where you can
type your notes as you are recording the lecture so that you can review your
notes that were taken at the given time point? 

 

Thank You, 

Nic 

 

 

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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  7 20:04:18 2020
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:04:18 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Question Regarding College
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Hello Jackson,

It is great for you to be planning ahead for what you are planning to do after graduating from community college. Whether or not you will be able to start at a university during the summer semester will depend on the transfer university. I would encourage you to contact the transfer universities you are interested in attending to find out about their specific admission policies and procedures.

Best of luck,
Elizabeth
 

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NABS Members,

Hello, everyone, I hope all of you are doing well. I am sending out this email to ask a college question. Currently, I am attending a community college. I will graduate in the Spring of 2021. I was wondering when I transfer to University; am I able to start in the Summer 2021 semester? Or will I have to wait until the Fall semester to start? Please let me know if any of you have done this before, or what you think about this. Hope to hear from you soon.

Kind Regards,

Jackson Schwoebel


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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Fri Aug  7 20:46:56 2020
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:46:56 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps
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Hi Nic,

Notepad  glitches less with screen readers than does word.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Hi Louis, 

Thank you for the suggestions. I did not realize Notepad can work better than Word since they are both similar. Are there certain aspects of Notepad that you find better than Word or is it just that it glitches less with a screen reader? 

Thank You,
Nic 



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Hello Nic,

I will recommend the Orbit 20 (or the Orbit 40) for note taking.  It is portable, has a long battery life, and almost instant on.  

If you are going to use a laptop for notes, take notes with notepad, which will be faster for notetaking than MS word.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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Subject: [NABS-L] Looking For Good Notetaking Apps

Hi everyone, 

 

I had a meeting recently with my disability office coordinator and he asked me how I take notes. In high school, I took notes mainly by myself. I typed my notes in Word.

 

I know that as an engineering student, things will get more complicated and it may be good to have either a note taker or have some kind of app to use for notetaking. I think I want to try and not have a note taker because I am an auditoary learner. If someone handwrites notes, I am unable to magnify them. I have also heard that sometimes professors will move quickly and the student is just along for the ride (depending on the professor of course). 

 

Are there any notetaking apps where you can record a lecture and then have the audio be converted into a transcript? Are there any apps where you can type your notes as you are recording the lecture so that you can review your notes that were taken at the given time point? 

 

Thank You, 

Nic 

 

 

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From truewise.8614 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 02:00:26 2020
From: truewise.8614 at gmail.com (Vanna Song)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 19:00:26 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] BrailleSense U2
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Hello Sara,

I might be interested. I already have a Focus 40 Blue; however, I
could use some kind of backup. I would like to talk with you about
this some more.

Thanks,

Vanna

On 8/7/20, Sara Mornis via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello NABS!
> Is anyone interested in purchasing a BrailleSense U2? Ive had it for over a
> year, but it’s still in great working condition since I’ve barely used it.
> I’d be willing to sell it for half price
> let me know
> Thanks!
> Have a great day everyone!
> Sara Mornis
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From nmabuelhawa at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 03:02:28 2020
From: nmabuelhawa at gmail.com (Naim Abu-ElHawa)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 23:02:28 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] BrailleSense U2
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Hi Sara,
I would be interested in purchasing the device. I would like to get to know
a little more about it. You may feel free to get in contact with me via
email or through the phone number at the end of this email. Many thanks and
much respect.
Sincerely,
Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa
Cell: (202) 848-8932

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 8:33 AM Sara Mornis via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello NABS!
> Is anyone interested in purchasing a BrailleSense U2? Ive had it for over
> a year, but it’s still in great working condition since I’ve barely used
> it. I’d be willing to sell it for half price
> let me know
> Thanks!
> Have a great day everyone!
> Sara Mornis
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 03:30:45 2020
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:30:45 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Cengage Unlimited
Message-ID: <5EEEEA2E-F951-4735-9804-27B32ADDBA75@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, 
Hope you're having a great start to the weekend. 
I just found out that my graduate school program is encouraging us to get subscriptions to Cengage Unlimited. Apparently, some electronic textbooks are already on there, and there are some online resources as well. I already got the majority of my books from Bookshare, but am still planning to buy the subscription so I can have access to the online material found there. 
That said, I was wondering how accessible you have found it if you have used it? I would like to hear about others' experiences with this platform. 
Thank you, 
Vejas 

From nmabuelhawa at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 05:15:07 2020
From: nmabuelhawa at gmail.com (Naim Abu-ElHawa)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 01:15:07 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Cengage Unlimited
In-Reply-To: <5EEEEA2E-F951-4735-9804-27B32ADDBA75@gmail.com>
References: <5EEEEA2E-F951-4735-9804-27B32ADDBA75@gmail.com>
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Hi.   I used Cengage Unlimited in previous semesters. I used this platform
for a microeconomics undergraduate course and found it to be approximately
85% accessible. The main point of contention for me was using the online
software to graph different economic trends. Other than that, reading
material and filling out quizzes and worksheets worked pretty much
perfectly for me. This was an undergraduate microeconomics course. Hope
this helps. Many thanks And much respect.
Sincerely,
Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 11:32 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Hope you're having a great start to the weekend.
> I just found out that my graduate school program is encouraging us to get
> subscriptions to Cengage Unlimited. Apparently, some electronic textbooks
> are already on there, and there are some online resources as well. I
> already got the majority of my books from Bookshare, but am still planning
> to buy the subscription so I can have access to the online material found
> there.
> That said, I was wondering how accessible you have found it if you have
> used it? I would like to hear about others' experiences with this platform.
> Thank you,
> Vejas
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From startrektech at techie.com  Sat Aug  8 09:34:27 2020
From: startrektech at techie.com (Marvin Hunkin)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 19:04:27 +0930
Subject: [NABS-L] bryan smart talking win pe
Message-ID: <006501d66d67$1e03c170$5a0b4450$@techie.com>

Hi. Need the bryan smart talking windows pe, and when I try to go to his
site, it is no longer there. So does any one have that still. Last or latest
version, and send me a link, so I can download.

The blind help project talking win pe does not work with vmware player and
says eufi not supported.

And do have ueif and secure boot on my assuss vivo book laptop.

Able to help.

Thanks.




From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 15:00:29 2020
From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 10:00:29 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Final Reminder: NABS Outreach Committee Meeting! Tomorrow,
 August 9 at 8 PM EST
Message-ID: <CANGwUJOFedSWp8-6qOi9JKq-3bwX0W7qCsb8E1Lo69PG1X8ZPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi NABSters!
Are you looking for something fun to do during this back-to-school season
on a boring Sunday night? Do you have a passion for podcasts or a belief
about blog posts? If you answered “Yes!” to either of the cheesy questions
above, join the NABS Outreach Committee for our first meeting of the fiscal
year tomorrow night at 8 PM EST, using the below Zoom info.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://zoom.us/j/4678833687
Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
One tap mobile
+13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)
+13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago)
Still undecided? Check out the attached meeting agenda to learn more and be
persuaded to join in the fun!
We guarantee fun if you guarantee positivity, punctuality, and presence.
Feel free to reach out with questions, and we look forward to talking with
you all very soon!
Peace,
Elizabeth
-- 
Elizabeth Rouse
She/her/hers
Secretary/Treasurer | Iowa Association of Blind Students
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students’ Outreach Committee
Treasurer | National Association of Blind Students
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From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 23:00:38 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 18:00:38 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Join the NABS Fundraising Committee Meeting Tomorrow!
Message-ID: <7CD61D1C-1883-4061-8333-09DCC4390E9C@gmail.com>

Hey Friends
>  
> 
> We are a day away from the exciting fundraising call for the National Association of Blind Students. This is the place where your imagination and ambition becomes the force that financially facilitates our progress as a division of this wonderful organization. With that in mind, I humbly and enthusiastically  invite all of you to take part in the magic that is the collaboration and creativity of our membership. Our fundraising meeting takes place via Zoom and the meeting credentials are below. I have also attached the agenda of tomorrow’s meeting for your review.  We look forward to working with you all.
> 
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://zoom.us/j/4678833687
> Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
> One tap mobile
> +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)
> +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago)
> 
>  
> 
> Peace and Blessings
> 
>  
> 
> Robert E. Parsons, Jr.
> 
> Chair, Fundraising Committee
> 
> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students
> 
> Vice President, Michigan Association of Blind Students
> 
> Western Michigan University ‘21
> 
> P: 804.801.7674
> 

From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 23:04:25 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 18:04:25 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Join the NABS Fundraising Committee Meeting Tomorrow!
In-Reply-To: <7CD61D1C-1883-4061-8333-09DCC4390E9C@gmail.com>
References: <7CD61D1C-1883-4061-8333-09DCC4390E9C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA47FEAC-6852-4662-9F9D-AA041A67D2DB@gmail.com>

My Apologies 

The fundraising committee meeting takes place tomorrow evening at 9pm EST. We can't wait to work with you all. :) 

Best 


Robert Parsons Jr.


> On Aug 8, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Robert Parsons <rob.parso3389 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Friends
>>  
>> 
>> We are a day away from the exciting fundraising call for the National Association of Blind Students. This is the place where your imagination and ambition becomes the force that financially facilitates our progress as a division of this wonderful organization. With that in mind, I humbly and enthusiastically  invite all of you to take part in the magic that is the collaboration and creativity of our membership. Our fundraising meeting takes place via Zoom and the meeting credentials are below. I have also attached the agenda of tomorrow’s meeting for your review.  We look forward to working with you all.
>> 
>> 
>> Join Zoom Meeting
>> https://zoom.us/j/4678833687
>> Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
>> One tap mobile
>> +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)
>> +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Peace and Blessings
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Robert E. Parsons, Jr.
>> 
>> Chair, Fundraising Committee
>> 
>> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students
>> 
>> Vice President, Michigan Association of Blind Students
>> 
>> Western Michigan University ‘21
>> 
>> P: 804.801.7674
>> 
> <NABS Fundraising Committee Agenda August 2020.docx>

From bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 09:29:28 2020
From: bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com (Bhavya shah)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 14:59:28 +0530
Subject: [NABS-L] Textbook recommendations
In-Reply-To: <5D9DB2BA-7DCD-4467-8DD4-4ED105D650B9@gmail.com>
References: <CAEvYTGMaOnCv6AMAZP+oV3MsSa+NgAwVZoMj7yN_91J_HD3iYA@mail.gmail.com>
 <5D9DB2BA-7DCD-4467-8DD4-4ED105D650B9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACHadJ30YP_7KNF_hxKKJ0iQ2rv1Bj5jcE2J5edeiB61P0Tr7g@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Gene,

Check out the books available on https://openstax.org/subjects. Our
institution will be using OpenStax's Calculus volumes as textbooks for
the Math 20 series this year, so I think OpenStax material can
probably be viewed as good quality overall. In terms of accessibility,
the Calculus book I read was reasonably accessible, containing Math ML
rendering as well as detailed alt text for graphs. It has a number of
textbooks in a variety of subject areas which may be of interest to
you. Have fun!

Thanks.

On 8/7/20, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Gene,
> That's a great, vast range of interests, which will serve you well.
> I can't think of a textbook that would cover all these things, but you might
> enjoy the author Malcolm Gladwell, who has at least a few books on
> Bookshare. He writes about how people work and make decisions. He uses
> historical examples and also incorporates some scientific and statistical
> material as well.
> Vejas
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 17:50, Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> This might be a bit strange and somewhat vague, but does anyone have any
>> textbook recommendations (preferably viewable on Bookshare or a similar
>> platform) for someone interested in too many things to fit into one set of
>> college courses? I’m interested in exploring so many things, but don’t
>> have
>> much time to work through full-length coursework (whether at my
>> institution
>> or using a free online resource) unrelated to my chosen major, so I’m
>> trying to find quality textbooks I can read in bursts of free time.
>> Linguistics, chemistry, biology, pure math, quantum/theoretical physics,
>> business/entrepreneurship, history, communication, East Asian culture, and
>> creative writing/narrative theory are some topics that come to mind, but
>> really I’m open to anything. I don't have formal experience with any of
>> these at the college level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, haha.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindly,
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. Candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford University
>>
>> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
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-- 
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Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/


From ahbeeorton at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  9 14:58:08 2020
From: ahbeeorton at yahoo.com (Ahbee Orton)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 09:58:08 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments
References: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5.ref@yahoo.com>
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Hi All, 

What are some ways to navigate filling out paperwork at a doctor/dentist office and going to doctor/dentist appoartments as a blind person? How do you do it independently? I'm asking for a friend, and your ideas may also help me in the future. 

Thanks,
Thanks,
Ahbee  
Vice President, AABS  
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV

From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 15:13:52 2020
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:13:52 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments
Message-ID: <5f3012b3.1c69fb81.8cb5e.4a55@mx.google.com>

You could ask that the papework be emailed to you ahead of your appointment, but I don't if Doctor's offices do that. Take a sighted friend with you to the appointment and ask them for assistance. 

On Aug 9, 2020 10:58 AM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are some ways to navigate filling out paperwork at a doctor/dentist office and going to doctor/dentist appoartments as a blind person? How do you do it independently? I'm asking for a friend, and your ideas may also help me in the future.
>
> Thanks,
> Thanks,
> Ahbee  
> Vice President, AABS  
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 15:19:37 2020
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:19:37 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments
In-Reply-To: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
References: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D8352FCE-5F1A-4292-BF93-E1EC95448166@gmail.com>

Hi Ahbee,

You could bring a sighted friend to the doctor’s office to help you with the paperwork or if you’re comfortable enough, perhaps Be My Eyes, AIRA, or any other reader could help you with that. The best option in my opinion is to have the paperwork emailed to you so you can have them in a digital format and it should be accessible for you to view and fill out. 
Hope this helps. 

Thanks,
Matthew Gip

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> What are some ways to navigate filling out paperwork at a doctor/dentist office and going to doctor/dentist appoartments as a blind person? How do you do it independently? I'm asking for a friend, and your ideas may also help me in the future. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Thanks,
> Ahbee  
> Vice President, AABS  
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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From arielle71 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 15:27:45 2020
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 11:27:45 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments
In-Reply-To: <D8352FCE-5F1A-4292-BF93-E1EC95448166@gmail.com>
References: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
 <D8352FCE-5F1A-4292-BF93-E1EC95448166@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJC=q8bM0a-e9rbvAqauPHLqidwYHePbrnmM9pbvq1JKmw@mail.gmail.com>

Some providers put their new patient paperwork on their website to be
filled out in advance. However, you might still need sighted
assistance to fill it out if it is not an electronically fillable
form. You can ask ahead of time for electronic copies of forms.
However, I usually just get there extra early and request assistance
from an office staff member to fill out forms. I don't like
inconveniencing a sighted person by having them come with me. But if
your medical history is sensitive and you're not comfortable sharing
with an office staff member, bringing a sighted friend or relative is
also an option.

On 8/9/20, Matthew Gip via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Ahbee,
>
> You could bring a sighted friend to the doctor’s office to help you with the
> paperwork or if you’re comfortable enough, perhaps Be My Eyes, AIRA, or any
> other reader could help you with that. The best option in my opinion is to
> have the paperwork emailed to you so you can have them in a digital format
> and it should be accessible for you to view and fill out.
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew Gip
>
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> What are some ways to navigate filling out paperwork at a doctor/dentist
>> office and going to doctor/dentist appoartments as a blind person? How do
>> you do it independently? I'm asking for a friend, and your ideas may also
>> help me in the future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Thanks,
>> Ahbee
>> Vice President, AABS
>> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is
>> not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not
>> easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in
>> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,
>> always hopes, always perseveres.”
>> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
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>
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From jessandellie101611 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 15:33:31 2020
From: jessandellie101611 at gmail.com (Jess Trask)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 11:33:31 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments
In-Reply-To: <D8352FCE-5F1A-4292-BF93-E1EC95448166@gmail.com>
References: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
 <D8352FCE-5F1A-4292-BF93-E1EC95448166@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+gC3JFhz9LFCvU0MrCBv5WV_kK8o=OtU33FpfRk1UjURCwAyw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ahbee,
Most Doctors offices have online patient portals that you can sign up for
and do it that way. I don’t know how accessible online portal are for
assistive technology.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:20 AM Matthew Gip via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi Ahbee,
>
>
>
> You could bring a sighted friend to the doctor’s office to help you with
> the paperwork or if you’re comfortable enough, perhaps Be My Eyes, AIRA, or
> any other reader could help you with that. The best option in my opinion is
> to have the paperwork emailed to you so you can have them in a digital
> format and it should be accessible for you to view and fill out.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew Gip
>
>
>
> > On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi All,
>
> >
>
> > What are some ways to navigate filling out paperwork at a doctor/dentist
> office and going to doctor/dentist appoartments as a blind person? How do
> you do it independently? I'm asking for a friend, and your ideas may also
> help me in the future.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Ahbee
>
> > Vice President, AABS
>
> > “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it
> is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is
> not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in
> evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always
> hopes, always perseveres.”
>
> > 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
>
> > _______________________________________________
>
> > NABS-L mailing list
>
> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
> >
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>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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>
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> NABS-L:
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>
> --
Jess

From ctate2076 at att.net  Sun Aug  9 17:25:48 2020
From: ctate2076 at att.net (ctate2076 at att.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 13:25:48 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments
In-Reply-To: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
References: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5.ref@yahoo.com>
 <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00c601d66e72$20377200$60a65600$@att.net>

Hi: 

Most doctors now have a patient portal where you may make appointments on your own. The system used by my doctors (I can't remember the name right now( is accessible. As for paperwork, I have requested new patient paperwork be emailed or snail mailed to me. Not all portions doctors have an accessible email document and not all of the online portal new forms in the patient portal is accessible, so I have had a sighted family member help fill it out. If that doesn't work, I ensure the office staff will assist me in filling out documents in the office as I almost always attend doctor's visits on my own. I have not experienced negativity in those offices where I need help filling out forms, but I have heard that is not the norm. In that case, I would suggest bringing a trusted friend or family member to assist. 

Camille 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ahbee Orton via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:58 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Ahbee Orton <ahbeeorton at yahoo.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments

Hi All, 

What are some ways to navigate filling out paperwork at a doctor/dentist office and going to doctor/dentist appoartments as a blind person? How do you do it independently? I'm asking for a friend, and your ideas may also help me in the future. 

Thanks,
Thanks,
Ahbee  
Vice President, AABS  
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
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From jhud7789 at twc.com  Sun Aug  9 17:48:35 2020
From: jhud7789 at twc.com (joseph hudson)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 12:48:35 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Medical Appointments
In-Reply-To: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
References: <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5.ref@yahoo.com>
 <6FFE45BD-3C8B-4F34-88A8-31EDCFEDB7F5@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7CFA4E02-D6AB-48B4-9A02-7E0CA55E36F0@twc.com>

Abby, the last time I went to the dentist my dad dropped me off at the door and the dentist office helped me fill out my paperwork and helped me sign my signature. So I would just ask the office secretary if they can possibly help you.
joseph hudson

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> On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> What are some ways to navigate filling out paperwork at a doctor/dentist office and going to doctor/dentist appoartments as a blind person? How do you do it independently? I'm asking for a friend, and your ideas may also help me in the future. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Thanks,
> Ahbee  
> Vice President, AABS  
> “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 NIV
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 20:52:08 2020
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 15:52:08 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness
Message-ID: <8C1EC05F-83D7-4F64-B5D2-C16809C04080@gmail.com>

What’s up students!

Knock Knock are you there? The Minnesota Association of Blind Students are back at you again with another edition of MNABS Monday Madness. Not a trivia fan? Not a problem because thinking on your feet is the name of the game this week. We promise lots of excitement and laughter. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to partake in the fun. If you need any accommodations,  feel free to email students at nfbmn.org . To join us:  

Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/93099399062?pwd=YzNoaC9NSFhIbnNoMzMxdUdNWk9yQT09  Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062 Passcode: 2q4PTh One tap mobile +16513728299,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (St. Paul)  +13126266799,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (Chicago)  Dial by your location         +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)         +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)         +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)         +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)         +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)         +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)         +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062 Passcode: 478615 Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/ae8ankjUh  Join by SIP 93099399062 at zoomcrc.com

Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
Residential and Activities Coordinator,
Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

From princesssabrina924 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 21:02:28 2020
From: princesssabrina924 at gmail.com (Sabrina Kimbrough)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:02:28 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness
In-Reply-To: <8C1EC05F-83D7-4F64-B5D2-C16809C04080@gmail.com>
References: <8C1EC05F-83D7-4F64-B5D2-C16809C04080@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B7F44104-5DB3-49F5-B002-993DD5A943BC@gmail.com>

Is the meeting at 7 or 8 cst?

 Whether you can or you can’t , you’re right! Henry Ford

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Cody Beardslee via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What’s up students!
> 
> Knock Knock are you there? The Minnesota Association of Blind Students are back at you again with another edition of MNABS Monday Madness. Not a trivia fan? Not a problem because thinking on your feet is the name of the game this week. We promise lots of excitement and laughter. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to partake in the fun. If you need any accommodations,  feel free to email students at nfbmn.org . To join us:  
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/93099399062?pwd=YzNoaC9NSFhIbnNoMzMxdUdNWk9yQT09  Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062 Passcode: 2q4PTh One tap mobile +16513728299,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (St. Paul)  +13126266799,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (Chicago)  Dial by your location         +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)         +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)         +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)         +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)         +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)         +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)         +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062 Passcode: 478615 Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/ae8ankjUh  Join by SIP 93099399062 at zoomcrc.com
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
> Residential and Activities Coordinator,
> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
> 100 East 22nd Street
> Minneapolis, MN  55404
> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 
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From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 21:16:43 2020
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:16:43 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness
In-Reply-To: <B7F44104-5DB3-49F5-B002-993DD5A943BC@gmail.com>
References: <B7F44104-5DB3-49F5-B002-993DD5A943BC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6BBA4D1B-DD1B-4747-9627-2F74AD991471@gmail.com>

7

Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Sabrina Kimbrough <princesssabrina924 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is the meeting at 7 or 8 cst?
> 
> Whether you can or you can’t , you’re right! Henry Ford
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Cody Beardslee via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> What’s up students!
>> 
>> Knock Knock are you there? The Minnesota Association of Blind Students are back at you again with another edition of MNABS Monday Madness. Not a trivia fan? Not a problem because thinking on your feet is the name of the game this week. We promise lots of excitement and laughter. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to partake in the fun. If you need any accommodations,  feel free to email students at nfbmn.org . To join us:  
>> 
>> Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/93099399062?pwd=YzNoaC9NSFhIbnNoMzMxdUdNWk9yQT09  Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062 Passcode: 2q4PTh One tap mobile +16513728299,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (St. Paul)  +13126266799,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (Chicago)  Dial by your location         +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)         +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)         +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)         +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)         +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)         +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)         +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062 Passcode: 478615 Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/ae8ankjUh  Join by SIP 93099399062 at zoomcrc.com
>> 
>> Cody Beardslee, Treasurer, Minnesota Association of Blind Students 
>> Residential and Activities Coordinator,
>> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
>> 100 East 22nd Street
>> Minneapolis, MN  55404
>> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
>> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From jty727 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 10 01:22:48 2020
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:22:48 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Legislative & Self Advocacy Committee Meeting Next
 Sunday
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s4aRpZXJha6GbBa3BJct7gc5bsud1FBsZnWe4xSNjC5Lw@mail.gmail.com>

What's happening Students!?

Hoping things are treating you awesomely & you're enjoying your summer
adventures!  Please come & join us for our monthly Legislative and
Self Advocacy Committee call next Sunday August 16 at 8pm!  Please
stop on by for all the bumping times to come through your
participation in this committee!

The Zoom information to participate is the following:
https://zoom.us/j/4678833687
Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
One tap mobile
+13017158592,,4678833687#

Thanks & look forward to hearing all interested individuals on the
call next Sunday!

Justin Young
Co-Chair Legislative & Self Advocacy Committee, NABS
President, New York Association of Blind Students


From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Mon Aug 10 02:48:14 2020
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 02:48:14 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Follow up to Last Week's Legislative Alert
Message-ID: <DM5PR1301MB20436E190DEFD27447D8608189440@DM5PR1301MB2043.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Dear Student Leaders,

We’ve had a few questions about the specific effects the SAFE TO WORK Act (S. 4317) would have on the protections of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. As the bill is written, the provisions of the ADA itself would not change, but employers and owners/operators of places of public accommodation would be protected from penalties if accessibility barriers were put in place as an effort to combat the spread of the coronavirus. This liability protection would last for a period of approximately five years, beginning December 1, 2019 and ending on October 1, 2024.

The SAFE TO WORK Act Section 181(a)(1) includes "Title I of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12111 et seq.)" as part of the definition of "covered Federal employment law." Section 181 (a)(2) states that "in any action, proceeding, or investigation resulting from or related to an actual, alleged, feared, or potential for exposure to coronavirus, or a change in working conditions caused by a law, rule, declaration, or order related to coronavirus, an employer shall not be subject to any enforcement proceeding or liability under any provision of a covered Federal employment law."

Section 181(b) would extend that same limitation of liability to places of public accommodation. 181(b)(1)(B) includes "title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12181 et seq.)" in its definition of "covered public accommodation law." Section 181(b)(2)(A) states, "during any public health emergency period, no person who owns, leases (or leases to), or operates a place of public accommodation shall be liable under, or found in violation of, any covered public accommodation law for any action or measure taken regarding coronavirus and that place of public accommodation."

We hope this clarifies exactly what language would affect blind Americans, and what we are asking Congress to remove from the bill.

Please be in touch with any questions. Jeff Kaloc JKaloc at nfb.org<mailto:JKaloc at nfb.org> is our point person at our national office on this issue.

Stay well,

Justin


Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury
he/him/his

Second Vice President | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
(808) 797-8606
president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org<http://www.nabslink.org/>

If you need help with a current accessibility barrier in school, visit: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXoK5sWCpBjvAu4EMOANUufEoJPyUlu4QeJnMB6pIdeohmsg/viewform

If you have a story about an accessibility barrier you faced in higher education, please tell your story here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf68TacBetKMAHZcMhGJLmYgeWDIjjpSm9Sz1OUwYKxzsIEAg/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1



From QSFord at outlook.com  Mon Aug 10 03:59:42 2020
From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:59:42 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Diversity and inclusion committee meeting
Message-ID: <MN2PR06MB6638E7135E39C1E45A14F7E4C1440@MN2PR06MB6638.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hey kNABS family,

The diversity and inclusion committee is  having its first committee call this Sunday, August 16th  At 9 PM Eastern. We invite you to come  to find out what we are doing to make our student divisions more inclusive as well as help knock down barriers that might be hindering diversity in our communities and the world around us. We can’t wait to see you all there!

Join Zoom Meeting

https://zoom.us/j/4678833687

Meeting ID: 467 883 3687

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If you have any questions please feel free to reach out to me.

My phone number is 301-312-9813

My email address is qsford at outlook.com






Qualik Ford
Diversity and inclusion committee cochair
“The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“

From zdreicer at gmail.com  Mon Aug 10 04:13:01 2020
From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary Dreicer)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 22:13:01 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Question Regarding College
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From SDubnow at nfb.org  Wed Aug 12 15:43:57 2020
From: SDubnow at nfb.org (Dubnow, Stacie)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:43:57 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Request for posting to NABS listserv
Message-ID: <MN2PR17MB39023C722D6F2BDAA101A845B2420@MN2PR17MB3902.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

I am a project manager at the NFB and am working with Anil Lewis on a project with McGraw-Hill to find participants to test the accessibility of accounting tables. Can you please post the following message to the NABS listserv, including my contact information?  Thanks so much!

Subject line: Accounting table accessibility testing opportunity -- $100.00 stipend

The National Federation of the Blind is searching for individuals to participate in 10 hours of testing of the accessibility and usability of accounting tables. Compensation will be provided.
If you meet the following criteria and are interested in participating, please email me.


1.     You are blind or low-vision.

2.     You are a student or recent graduate and either have taken an accounting class or are familiar with accounting principles. You do not need to have accounting expertise. We are looking for a cross-section of skill levels.

3.     You are proficient using screen reader access technology.
Thank you.

Best,

Stacie Dubnow

Stacie Dubnow, J.D.
Project Manager
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
410-659-9314, extension 2442 | sdubnow at nfb.org<mailto:sdubnow at nfb.org>

[National Federation of the Blind]<https://nfb.org/>

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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Wed Aug 12 16:38:44 2020
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:38:44 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Request for posting to NABS listserv
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Crash course in accounting, 10 hours sounds like a decent compensation.
On 8/12/2020 11:43 AM, Dubnow, Stacie via NABS-L wrote:
> I am a project manager at the NFB and am working with Anil Lewis on a project with McGraw-Hill to find participants to test the accessibility of accounting tables. Can you please post the following message to the NABS listserv, including my contact information?  Thanks so much!
>
> Subject line: Accounting table accessibility testing opportunity -- $100.00 stipend
>
> The National Federation of the Blind is searching for individuals to participate in 10 hours of testing of the accessibility and usability of accounting tables. Compensation will be provided.
> If you meet the following criteria and are interested in participating, please email me.
>
>
> 1.     You are blind or low-vision.
>
> 2.     You are a student or recent graduate and either have taken an accounting class or are familiar with accounting principles. You do not need to have accounting expertise. We are looking for a cross-section of skill levels.
>
> 3.     You are proficient using screen reader access technology.
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Stacie Dubnow
>
> Stacie Dubnow, J.D.
> Project Manager
> 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
> 410-659-9314, extension 2442 | sdubnow at nfb.org<mailto:sdubnow at nfb.org>
>
> [National Federation of the Blind]<https://nfb.org/>
>
>                           [Facebook] <http://www.facebook.com/nationalfederationoftheblind>     [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/NFB_Voice>     [Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/NationsBlind>
>
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>
> Disclaimer
>
> The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
>
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From jitendradkhar88954 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 17:57:09 2020
From: jitendradkhar88954 at gmail.com (jitendradkhar88954)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 23:27:09 +0530
Subject: [NABS-L] Helping our community Young Visually impaired people,
 how to use for the android phones and applications that's
 accessible to used for the TalkBack and accessibility. I will explain in
 our own languages Khasi and Jaintia. Through my videos from my Channal and
 my Facebook page. I kindly begging you to please donate me so that I can
 distribution to all the benefit of blind people in our community.
Message-ID: <5f342d7b.1c69fb81.7fdef.7f25@mx.google.com>

https://gogetfunding.com/helping-our-community-young-visually-impaired-people-how-to-use-for-the-android-phones-and-applications-thats-accessible-to-used-for-the-talkback-and-accessibility-i-will-explain-in-our-own-langua/#.XzQgvG_SbTc.mailtoSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

From fairall at panix.com  Wed Aug 12 18:02:53 2020
From: fairall at panix.com (Leslie Fairall)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:02:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NABS-L] Graduate Statistics Class
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008121355470.27309@panix1.panix.com>

Hi everyone:

I'm taking a graduate level statistics class for my master's degree 
program. One of my requirements is to write a 15-20 page research paper, 
including charts and graphs. I am not looking forward to that assignment. 
I will also be required to use Excel, which I have minimal familiarity. 
Are there any good tutorials on Excel using the keyboard? If you are also 
taking statistics this semester, m please reach out. Maybe we can 
commiserate together <smile>


-- 
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com


From zdreicer at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 18:18:44 2020
From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:18:44 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Graduate Statistics Class
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008121355470.27309@panix1.panix.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008121355470.27309@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <161CC58D-34FB-4AB7-A881-5671AF2F67AB@gmail.com>

I know there used to be an excel class through the Carroll Center for the Blind, which I did have to take a few years back in high school. I’m not sure if it exists anymore but it was pretty in depth. I hope that if it’s still there, that might be of use. Good luck with your assignment.



Sent from my Macbook Pro 13

> On Aug 12, 2020, at 12:02, Leslie Fairall via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone:
> 
> I'm taking a graduate level statistics class for my master's degree program. One of my requirements is to write a 15-20 page research paper, including charts and graphs. I am not looking forward to that assignment. I will also be required to use Excel, which I have minimal familiarity. Are there any good tutorials on Excel using the keyboard? If you are also taking statistics this semester, m please reach out. Maybe we can commiserate together <smile>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Leslie Fairall
> mailto:fairall at panix.com
> 
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From keribcu at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 19:39:52 2020
From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:39:52 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Graduate Statistics Class
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008121355470.27309@panix1.panix.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008121355470.27309@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <2dd4a5a4-d135-85a3-15d8-4a9d8af18cdd@gmail.com>

Leslie,


I too am taking advanced stats for my masters program. I don't really 
know excel either but I'll be using it. I did download excel for dumbies 
as well from bookshare. feel free to contact me off list at

keribcu at gmail.com

On 8/12/2020 2:02 PM, Leslie Fairall via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
> I'm taking a graduate level statistics class for my master's degree 
> program. One of my requirements is to write a 15-20 page research 
> paper, including charts and graphs. I am not looking forward to that 
> assignment. I will also be required to use Excel, which I have minimal 
> familiarity. Are there any good tutorials on Excel using the keyboard? 
> If you are also taking statistics this semester, m please reach out. 
> Maybe we can commiserate together <smile>
>
>
-- 
Keri Svendsen



From cookcafe at sc.rr.com  Wed Aug 12 23:44:31 2020
From: cookcafe at sc.rr.com (Steve & Shannon Cook)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:44:31 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] NFB of SC State Convention Agenda
Message-ID: <008001d67102$86e22850$94a678f0$@sc.rr.com>

 


Hi Federation Family!


 

Below is the agenda for the National Federation of the Blind of SC's state
convention.  Also attached is a word file marked up with headings.  We look
forward to you joining us!!


 


64th ANNUAL NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF SOUTH CAROLINA VIRTUAL STATE
CONVENTION!


August 21, 22, 23, 2020

          

 

 

           

           OF SOUTH CAROLINA

 

THEME "working together to help blind people live the lives they want"

 




Integrity and Respect


To allow all attendees the chance to benefit from all aspects of the
convention, we are committed to providing a harassment-free environment for
everyone. We appreciate your assistance in cultivating an atmosphere in
which participants from diverse backgrounds may learn, network, and share
with each other in an environment of mutual respect. Thank you for doing
your part to contribute to our community and the high expectations we strive
to maintain.

 


One Minute Message 


 

The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future.  Every day, we raise the
expectations of blind people because low expectations create obstacles
between blind people and our dreams.  You can live the life you want:
blindness is not what holds you back.  

 


Thank you to Sponsors


 

VANDA Pharmaceuticals, Inc.



 

 


ALL STATE CONVENTION ACTIVITIES WILL BE HELD VIA THE Zoom platform


 


Instructions to Join all Zoom Meetings


 <https://zoom.us/j/8032543777> https://zoom.us/j/8032543777 Meeting ID: 803
254 3777 

              If you have a smart phone, just click below and it will dial
in for you:

+19292056099,,8032543777#

              Or, you can dial in from your land phone:

929 205 6099

Meeting Id no. 803 254 377

 


Instructions for listening on an Echo device


 

Wake word Alexa: call 929 205 6099

Just like calling on the phone, you will hear "welcome to Zoom. "

Meeting ID when prompted, then say wake word Alexa: Press 803 254 3777pound

Then say Alexa Press pound to enter the meeting

Wake word Alexa: Press *6 to mute and unmute

 


Friday August 21, 2020 


 

All times are EST

 

1:00p.m. - 2:30 p.m. South Carolina Association of Blind Students - Derique
Simon, President 

 

2:45 - 3:45 p.m. Parents of Blind Children Division - Jennifer Duffell
Hoffman, President 

 

4:00 - 5:00 p.m. - Annual Seniors Division Meeting 

Shelley Coppel, President 

 

5:10 - 6:20 p.m. Resolutions Committee meeting 

Valerie Warrington, Chairperson

 

6:30 - 7:20 p.m. Computer Science and Technology division meeting 

Thom Spittle, Chairperson 

 

7:30 - 8:20 p.m. - Blind Merchants Division - Belinda Banks, Coordinator 

 

8:30 p.m. National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina Board of
Directors meeting - Frank Coppel, President 

Open to all! 

 


Saturday morning, August 22, General Session 


 

9:00 Call to order 

 

Invocation 

JW Smith, Member of the Board of Directors, National Federation of the Blind
of South Carolina

 

Pledge 

 

9:05 a.m. Welcome and Opening Ceremonies

 

9:15 a.m.  Greetings from host chapter 

Laverne Addison, President, Charleston chapter, National Federation of the
Blind of South Carolina 

 

9:20 a.m. Convention Arrangements and Announcements 

 

9:30 a.m. National Report, 

Everette Bacon, Member Board of Directors, National Federation of the blind,

President, National Federation of the blind of Utah 

 

10:15 a.m. "Doing Our Fair Share and then Some" A Tribute, 

Parnell Diggs, Administrative Law Judge, Social Security Administration, 

Immediate Past President of the National Federation of the Blind of South
Carolina 

 

10:35 a.m. Update from the South Carolina Commission for the Blind, 

Darline Graham, Commissioner 

 

10:55 a.m. Update from the South Carolina School for the Deaf and Blind, 

Scott Falcone, Director of Outreach Services 

 

11:15 a.m. My "VOICE" in the National Federation of the Blind, 

Wayne Marshall, Independence Training Services LLC 

I.T.S. "It's For You"

 

11:30 a.m. Presidential Report 

Frank Coppel 

 

12:00 p.m. Adjourn

 

The Nominating committee will meet via Zoom fifteen minutes after the
adjournment of the morning general session 

 

 


Saturday Afternoon General Session


 

2:00 p.m. call to order 

 

2:05 p.m. A Report from The South Carolina Vision Partnership, Celebrating
Twenty Years of making a difference in the lives of blind students in South
Carolina 

Marty McKenzie, Principal of Statewide Blind and Visually Impaired Education
and Vision Consultant

 

2:20 p.m. A Report from Talking Book Services 

Kristin White, Director 

 

2:40 p.m. Meet the Scholarship Class of 2020 

Shannon Cook, Scholarship Committee Chairperson 

 

2:50 p.m. What is Happening with Newsline, 

Steve Cook, NFB of SC State Newsline Coordinator 

 

3:00 p.m. Rocky Bottom Retreat and Conference Center of the Blind Report 

Frank Coppel, Chairman, Board of Directors

 

3:20 p.m. An update from the Federation Center of the Blind,

Ed Bible, Chairman Board of Trustees, David Houck, Executive Director 

 

3:40 p.m. A Report from the National Federation of the Blind of South
Carolina's Successful Transitions Program 

Jennifer Bazer, Director 

 

4:00 p.m. Financial Reports, 

National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina, Rocky Bottom Retreat and
Conference center of the Blind, Successful Transitions,

Valerie Warrington, Treasurer, National Federation of the blind of South
Carolina, Rocky Bottom Retreat and Conference Center of the Blind 

 

4:15 p.m. Resolutions 

 

4:30 p.m. Stewardship, Doing Your Fair Share, 

Dale Wolthoff and David Houck, PAC Plan committee co-chairpersons

Shelley Coppel, SUN Shares committee Chairperson 

 

5:00 Adjourn 

 

 


Saturday Evening Banquet 


 

 

7:00 p.m. call to order 

 

Invocation 

Debra Canty, Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of
South Carolina 

 

Introduction of Head Table 

 

Banquet Speaker 

Everette Bacon, Member of the Board of Directors, National Federation of the
Blind 

 

Awards 

 

2020 Scholarship Class 

 

Banquet Fund Raiser 

 

 


Sunday, August 23, 2020 


 

2:00 p.m. Call to Order 

 

2:05 p.m. Memorial Service 

Dorothy Barksdale, Columbia Chapter 

 

2:15 p.m. Elections, and Other Business 

 

5:00 p.m. Adjourn 

 




 


National Federation of the Blind Pledge


 

I pledge to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of
the Blind to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind; to
support the policies and programs of the Federation; and to abide by its
constitution.

 

NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF SOUTH CAROLINA

119 S. Kilbourne Road

Columbia, SC 29205

803-254-3777

Fax 803-252-5655

 <mailto:nfbsc at sc.rr.com> nfbsc at sc.rr.com

www.nfbofsc.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve Cook

District 2 State Board Member of the National Federation of the Blind of SC

1st Vice President of the Computer Science & Technology Division of the
National Federation of the Blind of SC

Board member at large of the Columbia chapter of the National Federation of
the Blind of SC

The National Federation of the Blind of SC owns and operates Rocky Bottom
Retreat & Conference Center.  Below is a link to read more about Rocky
Bottom and to make a reservation for a mountain retreat!

Rocky Bottom Retreat  <http://rockybottomofsc.com/> & Conference Center

Please join the National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book at any
of the below links!

National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book
<https://m.facebook.com/NatFedofSouthCarolina/> 

Computer Science
<https://m.facebook.com/Computer-Science-Technology-Division-of-the-NFB-of-S
C-343263089815304/> & Technology Division of the National Federation of the
Blind of SC

Rocky Bottom Retreat  <https://m.facebook.com/RockyBottomofSC/> & Conference
Center 

South Carolina Association of Blind Students

South Carolina Parents of Blind Children
<https://m.facebook.com/groups/375092969314880?_rdr> 

 

Your old car keys can be keys to literacy for the blind.
Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking 
www.carshelpingtheblind.org <http://www.carshelpingtheblind.org>  
or call 855 659 9314

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From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 10:52:54 2020
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 10:52:54 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited! Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New
 Era of Education happening Sunday Aug 23 at 9 PM Eastern!
Message-ID: <SA0PR13MB401499DE4BD7732C711F2769F3400@SA0PR13MB4014.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Hey, students!
We hope that you all are enjoying the last few days of Summer and getting ready for the inevitable switch back to books and due dates. I know, I know, we are cringing right along with you. Education is certainly facing many unprecidented challenges this year, but we know that with support and determination, we can conquer this year just like any other!
We hope you will join us for our August membership call: Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New Era of Education. We will be talking all things back to school on Sunday August 23 at 9 PM Eastern. No matter your education level, we hope you will join us for helpful tips andinfo to make this year the best it can be!

Join Zoom Meeting:
https://zoom.us/j/4678833687
Meeting ID: 4678833687
Don’t hesitate to reach out with any questions prior to the call.
Best,
Nina

Nina Marranca
She/her/hers
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
Chair | Outreach Committee
Secretary Treasurer | New York Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
ninam0814 at gmail.com
www.nabslink.org

From jtschwoebel at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 15 00:54:44 2020
From: jtschwoebel at yahoo.com (Jackson Schwoebel)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 20:54:44 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Questions Regarding Proofreading Software
Message-ID: <mailman.371.1772982289.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

NABS Members,

Hello, everyone. I hope all of you are doing well. I was wondering, have any of you ever used Grammarly before, and is it accessible? If not, what kinds of proof-reading software do you use that is accessible other than the generic Word spell check? Thanks, and I look forward to reading your responses.

Kind Regards,

Jackson Schwoebel 



From startrektech at techie.com  Sat Aug 15 01:14:00 2020
From: startrektech at techie.com (Marvin Hunkin)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:44:00 +0930
Subject: [NABS-L] building a talking win 8.1. pe help?
Message-ID: <003701d672a1$5d205730$17610590$@techie.com>

Hi. Building a win 8.1 pe. Now got the assessment and deployment kit. Now.
What drivers for network, audio, and also how to integrate nvda, into that.
Have been searching, did read the nvda developer guide. No where there. So
any one got any ideas. As some one does have a talking win 8.1 pe, but it is
on audio games.net. and did create an account, but not allowed to post any
topics. Did contact the developers but still waiting to hear back from them.
But the files either got taken down, or not there, or timed out. Does any
one know where the person, is, who they are, tried looking through the audio
games.net archive, but could not seem to find the person,s name or to
contact them. So decide to build my own. The  tool is accessible with jaws.
So if any one knows where I can download the win 8.1 talking pe. Did have
bryan smarts talking win 7, and doing this for a networking assignment, and
install inside vm ware player. So, the win 7 talking pe, would not install
either win 8.1 or 10. Not correct file version. Got 2 gb and 2 cores
assigned. And then set up my external drive. That's where all the os in iso
form are stored. Any help.

Thanks.deployment

Hi. Building a win 8.1 pe. Now got the assessment and deployment kit. Now.
What drivers for network, audio, and also how to integrate nvda, into that.
Have been searching, did read the nvda developer guide. No where there. So
any one got any ideas. As some one does have a talking win 8.1 pe, but it is
on audio games.net. and did create an account, but not allowed to post any
topics. Did contact the developers but still waiting to hear back from them.
But the files either got taken down, or not there, or timed out. Does any
one know where the person, is, who they are, tried looking through the audio
games.net archive, but could not seem to find the person,s name or to
contact them. So decide to build my own. The  tool is accessible with jaws.
So if any one knows where I can download the win 8.1 talking pe. Did have
bryan smarts talking win 7, and doing this for a networking assignment, and
install inside vm ware player. So, the win 7 talking pe, would not install
either win 8.1 or 10. Not correct file version. Got 2 gb and 2 cores
assigned. And then set up my external drive. That's where all the os in iso
form are stored. Any help.

Thanks.deployment




From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 15 23:43:34 2020
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 23:43:34 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] August Blog Post
Message-ID: <DM6PR13MB4001BC652EDEB7066134B936F3410@DM6PR13MB4001.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Hey, students!
Please find the link to the August blog post below. This month, we are talking with some of our fabulous scholarship finalists. We hope you enjoy this month's post, and if you have any blog post ideas for the future, feel free to reach out.
http://nabslink.org/content/blog-post-august-2020-celebrating-our-nfb-scholarship-finalists
Best,
Nina

Nina Marranca
She/her/hers
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
Chair | Outreach Committee
Secretary Treasurer | New York Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
ninam0814 at gmail.com
www.nabslink.org

From QSFord at outlook.com  Sun Aug 16 01:58:42 2020
From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 01:58:42 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Diversity and inclusion one day reminder
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 Hey kNABSters,

The diversity and inclusion committee is  having its first committee call tomorrow Sunday, August 16th <x-apple-data-detectors://0>  At 9 PM Eastern<x-apple-data-detectors://0>. please Consider stopping by to learn what the committee has planned for these upcoming months. We as a committee need your support and help to reach our goals and be successful. So if you can please stop by and lend us your ears and  potentially lend us your aid For our ambitious goals. We can’t wait to see you all there!

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From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Sun Aug 16 02:26:02 2020
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 02:26:02 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] REMINDER: NABS Legislative & Self Advocacy Committee
 Meeting Sunday, August 16 at 8 PM Eastern
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Aloha everyone,

Here's a quick reminder about our LSAC meeting tomorrow night, plus an agenda! Newcomers are always welcome. 

National Association of Blind Students
Legislative and Self Advocacy Committee
Sunday, August 16, 2020
8:00 PM Eastern 

The Zoom information to participate is the following:
https://zoom.us/j/4678833687
Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
One tap mobile
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Meeting Agenda

I.	Call to Order
II.	Member Introductions
III.	Notes on Committee Leadership Structure
IV.	Legislative Alert on Efforts to Weaken the ADA
a.	The Problem
b.	Contacting Senators 
V.	Collecting Personal Stories about Accessibility Problems in Higher Education
VI.	Updating the Scholarship Database
VII.	Old Business
VIII.	New Business
IX.	Adjournment


Talk soon!

Justin


Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury
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Second Vice President | National Association of Blind Students
   A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
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Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Legislative & Self Advocacy Committee Meeting Next Sunday

What's happening Students!?

Hoping things are treating you awesomely & you're enjoying your summer adventures!  Please come & join us for our monthly Legislative and Self Advocacy Committee call next Sunday August 16 at 8pm!  Please stop on by for all the bumping times to come through your participation in this committee!

The Zoom information to participate is the following:
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From bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 03:47:25 2020
From: bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com (Bhavya shah)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:17:25 +0530
Subject: [NABS-L] Urgent - Studying College Level STEM Without Tactile
 Material
Message-ID: <CACHadJ1C-_oE+-2V0VB5KxqUJYEE_qjse_8GP65Ef=w_HeR3-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

As an international incoming freshman at a US university, I am now
faced with the real possibility of studying for the entirety of my
frosh year online. There are so many other factors to consider, but
this mail is about one specific one.

I plan on studying subjects and taking classes that have visual
content like graphs, diagrams and other figures, i.e. STEM and related
areas. Since I will be enrolled remotely, my university's Office of
Accessible Education has assured me (a) alt text for images in my
study material, and (b) a visual descriptionist who will be a graduate
student in the subject of the class. However, what is very uncertain
right now is access to tactile graphics because of all the timelines
and challenges of international shipping. We are still exploring this,
but there is a good chance I won't be able to receive tactile graphics
for the period in which I am enrolled remotely.

Which subjects do you think have a substantial visual component to it?
I am not interested in physics or biology, but definitely want to take
up Mathematics, try a Chemistry class or two, study new disciplines
like Linguistics, and be able to have as many options open for
coursework.
For these fields, how important do you think is tactile material to
properly understand and absorb the subject matter? Could I do without
it and be successful while relying only on textual and verbal means
instead?
Do you think it is generally possible for me to design my first year
course load a little differently so as to take only those classes
which are less graphical in nature? I am thinking I could focus more
on probability than conics in mathematics for instance. It is worth
keeping in mind here that not all topics are are covered in frosh
friendly courses so my ability to do this may be limited.

The reason why I indicate urgency in the subject line is because I
need to take my call about going ahead with remote enrollment or
considering a gap year very soon. Any inputs or perspectives are
hugely appreciated.

Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of (hopefully) 2024
;


From eschlenker at cox.net  Sun Aug 16 04:13:56 2020
From: eschlenker at cox.net (Emily Schlenker)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 23:13:56 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Urgent - Studying College Level STEM Without Tactile
 Material
In-Reply-To: <CACHadJ1C-_oE+-2V0VB5KxqUJYEE_qjse_8GP65Ef=w_HeR3-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACHadJ1C-_oE+-2V0VB5KxqUJYEE_qjse_8GP65Ef=w_HeR3-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi. I cannot tell you whether or not Visual aids rendered as tactile materials are essential for your particular learning style, but they are deemed essential for all other students, therefore they are obviously valuable ways to learn things.  most algebra classes, chemistry, trig, and physics classes have data rendered graphically or rely on shapes and other types of diagrams. is it possible for the school to pay someone who is in close proximity to you to create such diagrams using rubber bands and other materials? it is possible for you to take classes that may not have so many visual aids, but eventually you will have to take courses that do, and the school will have to be prepared. The pandemic does not give any university in the US permission to disregard the ADA and rehab act.


Good luck.
Emily Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Bhavya shah via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> As an international incoming freshman at a US university, I am now
> faced with the real possibility of studying for the entirety of my
> frosh year online. There are so many other factors to consider, but
> this mail is about one specific one.
> 
> I plan on studying subjects and taking classes that have visual
> content like graphs, diagrams and other figures, i.e. STEM and related
> areas. Since I will be enrolled remotely, my university's Office of
> Accessible Education has assured me (a) alt text for images in my
> study material, and (b) a visual descriptionist who will be a graduate
> student in the subject of the class. However, what is very uncertain
> right now is access to tactile graphics because of all the timelines
> and challenges of international shipping. We are still exploring this,
> but there is a good chance I won't be able to receive tactile graphics
> for the period in which I am enrolled remotely.
> 
> Which subjects do you think have a substantial visual component to it?
> I am not interested in physics or biology, but definitely want to take
> up Mathematics, try a Chemistry class or two, study new disciplines
> like Linguistics, and be able to have as many options open for
> coursework.
> For these fields, how important do you think is tactile material to
> properly understand and absorb the subject matter? Could I do without
> it and be successful while relying only on textual and verbal means
> instead?
> Do you think it is generally possible for me to design my first year
> course load a little differently so as to take only those classes
> which are less graphical in nature? I am thinking I could focus more
> on probability than conics in mathematics for instance. It is worth
> keeping in mind here that not all topics are are covered in frosh
> friendly courses so my ability to do this may be limited.
> 
> The reason why I indicate urgency in the subject line is because I
> need to take my call about going ahead with remote enrollment or
> considering a gap year very soon. Any inputs or perspectives are
> hugely appreciated.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Bhavya Shah
> Stanford University | Class of (hopefully) 2024
> ;
> 
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> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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From hstaley at nfbtx.org  Sun Aug 16 04:26:29 2020
From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 23:26:29 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Urgent - Studying College Level STEM Without Tactile
 Material
In-Reply-To: <CACHadJ1C-_oE+-2V0VB5KxqUJYEE_qjse_8GP65Ef=w_HeR3-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACHadJ1C-_oE+-2V0VB5KxqUJYEE_qjse_8GP65Ef=w_HeR3-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84851F29-AB7B-4B48-804B-F8181AE575E2@nfbtx.org>


Good evening;

Generally the first year or years of an undergraduate education are filled with general education and lower division requirements and not very heavy into your major course of study. What specific fields were you intending on studying at your chosen institution? Many STEM topics such as Calculus, Biology, etc. do require a great deal of understanding of visual or tactile content. That being said you very well could take subjects in the humanities such as language arts, psychology, or English that would fulfill many of your lower division general education requirements. That being said the best place to start would be for you to consult the individual degree requirements in your undergraduate academic catalog. For those STEM topics that you want to take you could plan on taking them in the spring semester which would give your disability support services office a chance to ensure that all materials would be accessible and delivered to you to your home. There may be other international students who have taken online courses from U.S. institutions on this list that might be able to shed some light on the topic. That being said you could retain the services of an assistant in your country to help with making tactile models with the assistance of the readers that the college will be providing you.
> On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:47 PM, Bhavya shah via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> As an international incoming freshman at a US university, I am now
> faced with the real possibility of studying for the entirety of my
> frosh year online. There are so many other factors to consider, but
> this mail is about one specific one.
> 
> I plan on studying subjects and taking classes that have visual
> content like graphs, diagrams and other figures, i.e. STEM and related
> areas. Since I will be enrolled remotely, my university's Office of
> Accessible Education has assured me (a) alt text for images in my
> study material, and (b) a visual descriptionist who will be a graduate
> student in the subject of the class. However, what is very uncertain
> right now is access to tactile graphics because of all the timelines
> and challenges of international shipping. We are still exploring this,
> but there is a good chance I won't be able to receive tactile graphics
> for the period in which I am enrolled remotely.
> 
> Which subjects do you think have a substantial visual component to it?
> I am not interested in physics or biology, but definitely want to take
> up Mathematics, try a Chemistry class or two, study new disciplines
> like Linguistics, and be able to have as many options open for
> coursework.
> For these fields, how important do you think is tactile material to
> properly understand and absorb the subject matter? Could I do without
> it and be successful while relying only on textual and verbal means
> instead?
> Do you think it is generally possible for me to design my first year
> course load a little differently so as to take only those classes
> which are less graphical in nature? I am thinking I could focus more
> on probability than conics in mathematics for instance. It is worth
> keeping in mind here that not all topics are are covered in frosh
> friendly courses so my ability to do this may be limited.
> 
> The reason why I indicate urgency in the subject line is because I
> need to take my call about going ahead with remote enrollment or
> considering a gap year very soon. Any inputs or perspectives are
> hugely appreciated.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Bhavya Shah
> Stanford University | Class of (hopefully) 2024
> ;
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From gene.sh.kim at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 05:42:05 2020
From: gene.sh.kim at gmail.com (Gene Kim)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 22:42:05 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Urgent - Studying College Level STEM Without Tactile
 Material
In-Reply-To: <CACHadJ1C-_oE+-2V0VB5KxqUJYEE_qjse_8GP65Ef=w_HeR3-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACHadJ1C-_oE+-2V0VB5KxqUJYEE_qjse_8GP65Ef=w_HeR3-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEvYTGP_cyFeCuQx8nA7KNbdkPDO2FDgDM1B+et1JcCafKBEVw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Bhavya,

First and foremost, I sincerely hope that the OAE will be able to find a
solution—the transition to college is already difficult enough. I'll list a
few classes I presume you may be interested in based on your e-mail and
previous conversations and my thoughts on each, but generally, while I do
think you could build the first year's courses in a way that makes tactile
graphics not as necessary, if you find that your options are too limited or
that you aren't satisfied with your selection, maybe it is worth
considering taking a quarter or few off. You can take a leave of absence at
almost any time throughout the year. I would also caution that since some
courses are offered only once/twice a year (e.g. Chem 31M), if you decide
to enroll this upcoming year and decide not to take those
particular classes, you may end up having to take them as a second or even
third year in standing, which could delay some of the upper divs that list
those particular classes as prerequisites as well. That being said, I think
if you're confident in your ability to visualize graphs/your
spacial reasoning, maybe a description and alt text would be enough. I
would also strongly recommend investing in something like a draftsman or
sensational blackboard so that you will be able to draw your own
low-fidelity TGs. Perhaps you could confirm with the visual descriptionist
if what you understood and drew are accurate (e.g. ask the descriptionist
to explain a Chemical bond's structure, try to draw it out yourself, then
show and ask them if what you drew is accurate to reassure yourself that
you understood it). With that, here are some classes separated by subject
and my subjective thoughts:

Chemistry:
Chem 33: I am quite confident that this class dives deeply into molecular
structure, so I imagine it will be very challenging without TGs. This class
is also infamous for being extremely difficult, so I would advise to take
it when you have every resource at your disposal.
(I unfortunately know very little about Chem 31A/B/M, aside from the fact
that 31M is also a very difficult class. I would suggest trying to find an
old syllabus to see how visual the concepts are or reaching out to the
professor. I think these classes in general will be less involved than Bio
or Physics, the latter of which I took and feel like TGs were extremely
helpful but maybe not necessary if I had an effective reader and alt text.)

Math:
Math 21: Briefly looking at these concepts, I think you'll fair well
without TGs. A lot of these concepts are more numerical than graphical
(limits, integration techniques, series/sequences, etc.) I'm sure graphs
will pop up, but I don't remember them being extremely complicated (I think
alt text and visual descriptionist should be enough, and even more so if
you're able to sketch some of these out using the tactile drawing tools
mentioned above.)
Math 51: I think this class is extremely visual and graph intensive
(especially once you begin to work with contour plots and graphing beyond
2D come week 4). I would strongly suggest taking this when you have tactile
graphics available, but I do think it can be done without them (just expect
to invest a lot of time and effort because the class moves near
unforgivingly quickly.)

Computer Science:
CS 106A: I am quite confident that you would do well in this class without
TGs. The graphs you may encounter will be relatively straight forward, and
the CS department is extremely skilled at accommodating for the blind.
CS 106B/107: These are also very doable without TGs (I personally didn't
rely on them much). However, I will say that these courses use more graphs
than 106A. Likely the main diagrams here would be tree diagrams (that may
get a little complicated if just reading alt text) for things like
recursion, decision trees, etc (i.e. a parent tree entry branches off into
three children, and each of those children branch off into two more
children, and so on.) You also work a lot with pointers, and some of the
lecturers like to work out how pointers change the thing they are pointing
at by drawing diagrams. I didn't need a TG to understand this, but it did
take a lot of thinking and visualizing for me to convince myself that I
understood it.

Psych:
Psych 1: I believe most of the concepts here will be terminology and
conceptually-based. I believe there is a neuroscience unit where you are
taught various regions of the brain, which may be a little difficult to
visualize without a TG but is still doable in my opinion. The class also
has an emphasis on research design/different kinds of study techniques,
which may involve some simple graphs, but those shouldn't be too difficult
to visualize.
Psych 70: This class uses almost no graphics. If you're interested in
social psychology to any extent, I think this would be a perfectly
non-compromised and exciting experience without TGs.

PWR/Philosophy/Linguistics/Creative Writing:
Anything in this general space doesn't rely on TGs at all (unless there is
a supplemental graph to a study you are reading for PWR or if you take a
Linguistics class that focuses on phonology or acoustics). Phil 1, Phil 2,
Phil 80, Linguistics 1, Psych 140, English 9CE, and English 90 are all
great classes a lot of frosh take that would be exciting and not
compromised without access to TGs.

There are certainly enough classes here (and plenty I haven't mentioned on
explorecourses.stanford.edu) to fill a few quarters, but again if you find
that one quarter there aren't all that many classes that seem compelling or
workable, maybe it's not a bad idea to request a leave of absence (course
selection for the upcoming quarter is generally around week 6 or 7 of the
current quarter, giving you plenty of time to think things through). I'd
also be more than happy to give random class recommendations offline if
you'd like some help filtering the thousands of classes our university
offers each quarter.

Best of luck going forward, and please don't hesitate to reach out if I can
help in any way (hopefully this e-mail helped somewhat).

Kindly,
Gene
Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. Candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford University
Secretary | California Association of Blind Students

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:48 PM Bhavya shah via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> As an international incoming freshman at a US university, I am now
> faced with the real possibility of studying for the entirety of my
> frosh year online. There are so many other factors to consider, but
> this mail is about one specific one.
>
> I plan on studying subjects and taking classes that have visual
> content like graphs, diagrams and other figures, i.e. STEM and related
> areas. Since I will be enrolled remotely, my university's Office of
> Accessible Education has assured me (a) alt text for images in my
> study material, and (b) a visual descriptionist who will be a graduate
> student in the subject of the class. However, what is very uncertain
> right now is access to tactile graphics because of all the timelines
> and challenges of international shipping. We are still exploring this,
> but there is a good chance I won't be able to receive tactile graphics
> for the period in which I am enrolled remotely.
>
> Which subjects do you think have a substantial visual component to it?
> I am not interested in physics or biology, but definitely want to take
> up Mathematics, try a Chemistry class or two, study new disciplines
> like Linguistics, and be able to have as many options open for
> coursework.
> For these fields, how important do you think is tactile material to
> properly understand and absorb the subject matter? Could I do without
> it and be successful while relying only on textual and verbal means
> instead?
> Do you think it is generally possible for me to design my first year
> course load a little differently so as to take only those classes
> which are less graphical in nature? I am thinking I could focus more
> on probability than conics in mathematics for instance. It is worth
> keeping in mind here that not all topics are are covered in frosh
> friendly courses so my ability to do this may be limited.
>
> The reason why I indicate urgency in the subject line is because I
> need to take my call about going ahead with remote enrollment or
> considering a gap year very soon. Any inputs or perspectives are
> hugely appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
> Bhavya Shah
> Stanford University | Class of (hopefully) 2024
> ;
>
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
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>

From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 21:05:28 2020
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:05:28 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Cengage Unlimited
In-Reply-To: <CADTXCF+4HA+KOwsG41dNnToMwzSW8jq7qc3DggXCrtjEBnVr9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5EEEEA2E-F951-4735-9804-27B32ADDBA75@gmail.com>
 <CADTXCF+4HA+KOwsG41dNnToMwzSW8jq7qc3DggXCrtjEBnVr9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJTqpvSo0mLZsN5EPJtFPbiYdOz78ixGs6mLruc5Epjaq3eb8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for this question because I have the same question as well. I’m
supposed to be using this online system for both introduction to nutrition
and cognitive psychology. Wondering if anyone has used this platform for
any of these classes?

Nesma

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 01:18 Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi.   I used Cengage Unlimited in previous semesters. I used this platform
>
> for a microeconomics undergraduate course and found it to be approximately
>
> 85% accessible. The main point of contention for me was using the online
>
> software to graph different economic trends. Other than that, reading
>
> material and filling out quizzes and worksheets worked pretty much
>
> perfectly for me. This was an undergraduate microeconomics course. Hope
>
> this helps. Many thanks And much respect.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 11:32 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <
>
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi everyone,
>
> > Hope you're having a great start to the weekend.
>
> > I just found out that my graduate school program is encouraging us to get
>
> > subscriptions to Cengage Unlimited. Apparently, some electronic textbooks
>
> > are already on there, and there are some online resources as well. I
>
> > already got the majority of my books from Bookshare, but am still
> planning
>
> > to buy the subscription so I can have access to the online material found
>
> > there.
>
> > That said, I was wondering how accessible you have found it if you have
>
> > used it? I would like to hear about others' experiences with this
> platform.
>
> > Thank you,
>
> > Vejas
>
> > _______________________________________________
>
> > NABS-L mailing list
>
> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>
> > NABS-L:
>
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nmabuelhawa%40gmail.com
>
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> NABS-L mailing list
>
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
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>
>

From nmabuelhawa at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 23:07:51 2020
From: nmabuelhawa at gmail.com (Naim Abu-ElHawa)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:07:51 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Cengage Unlimited
In-Reply-To: <CAJTqpvSo0mLZsN5EPJtFPbiYdOz78ixGs6mLruc5Epjaq3eb8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5EEEEA2E-F951-4735-9804-27B32ADDBA75@gmail.com>
 <CADTXCF+4HA+KOwsG41dNnToMwzSW8jq7qc3DggXCrtjEBnVr9A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJTqpvSo0mLZsN5EPJtFPbiYdOz78ixGs6mLruc5Epjaq3eb8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADTXCFJatv_tsV2zYFCMOeJEnhxbdfd7i+d26nKoCqFMVxafXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Nesma. Yes, they are Approximately 87.89327% accessible. Many thanks and
much respect.
Sincerely,
Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 5:05 PM nesma aly <nesmaaly123 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for this question because I have the same question as well. I’m
> supposed to be using this online system for both introduction to nutrition
> and cognitive psychology. Wondering if anyone has used this platform for
> any of these classes?
>
> Nesma
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 01:18 Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi.   I used Cengage Unlimited in previous semesters. I used this platform
>>
>> for a microeconomics undergraduate course and found it to be approximately
>>
>> 85% accessible. The main point of contention for me was using the online
>>
>> software to graph different economic trends. Other than that, reading
>>
>> material and filling out quizzes and worksheets worked pretty much
>>
>> perfectly for me. This was an undergraduate microeconomics course. Hope
>>
>> this helps. Many thanks And much respect.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 11:32 PM Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L <
>>
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>>
>> > Hope you're having a great start to the weekend.
>>
>> > I just found out that my graduate school program is encouraging us to
>> get
>>
>> > subscriptions to Cengage Unlimited. Apparently, some electronic
>> textbooks
>>
>> > are already on there, and there are some online resources as well. I
>>
>> > already got the majority of my books from Bookshare, but am still
>> planning
>>
>> > to buy the subscription so I can have access to the online material
>> found
>>
>> > there.
>>
>> > That said, I was wondering how accessible you have found it if you have
>>
>> > used it? I would like to hear about others' experiences with this
>> platform.
>>
>> > Thank you,
>>
>> > Vejas
>>
>> > _______________________________________________
>>
>> > NABS-L mailing list
>>
>> > NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>
>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>
>> > NABS-L:
>>
>> >
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nmabuelhawa%40gmail.com
>>
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> NABS-L mailing list
>>
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> NABS-L:
>>
>>
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com
>>
>>
>
>

From hunterkuester2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 13:00:00 2020
From: hunterkuester2 at gmail.com (Hunter Kuester)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness reminder
Message-ID: <CAKY9rHGqH8EHx9NstTE=wT-AB53vwTbd=LvKEC9L9q82ZYFO_Q@mail.gmail.com>

Calling all competitive people! Yes MNABS is back with more trivia and we
cannot be more excited to crown a new trivia champion. Join us tonight
night at 8 PM Eastern 7 PM Central. There will be a variety of categories
from geography  to brands and slogans. Tell your friends and family. We
welcome everyone federation or not. Look forward to seeing you all tonight!
To join us:

Join Zoom Meeting

https://umn.zoom.us/j/93099399062?pwd=YzNoaC9NSFhIbnNoMzMxdUdNWk9yQT09



Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062

Passcode: 2q4PTh

One tap mobile

+16513728299,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (St. Paul)

+13126266799,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (Chicago)



Dial by your location

        +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)

        +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

        +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)

        +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)

        +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)

        +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

        +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)

Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062

Passcode: 478615

Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/ae8ankjUh



Join by SIP

93099399062 at zoomcrc.com



Join by H.323

162.255.37.11 (US West)

162.255.36.11 (US East)

221.122.88.195 (China)

115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)

115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)

213.19.144.110 (EMEA)

103.122.166.55 (Australia)

209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)

64.211.144.160 (Brazil)

69.174.57.160 (Canada)

207.226.132.110 (Japan)

Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
-- 
Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant
Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 ext. 234
First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students
Cell: (920)-285-8530
hunterkuester2 at gmail.com
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!

From haleythurston1999 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 00:19:29 2020
From: haleythurston1999 at gmail.com (haley thurston)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:19:29 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness reminder
In-Reply-To: <CAKY9rHGqH8EHx9NstTE=wT-AB53vwTbd=LvKEC9L9q82ZYFO_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKY9rHGqH8EHx9NstTE=wT-AB53vwTbd=LvKEC9L9q82ZYFO_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B710DF7-4704-46B0-AADA-5CF3C9D8A7A6@gmail.com>

Hello, my name is haley thurston. Is the zoom meeting starting soon? What’s up with that?

Haley Thurston

> On Aug 17, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Hunter Kuester via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Calling all competitive people! Yes MNABS is back with more trivia and we
> cannot be more excited to crown a new trivia champion. Join us tonight
> night at 8 PM Eastern 7 PM Central. There will be a variety of categories
> from geography  to brands and slogans. Tell your friends and family. We
> welcome everyone federation or not. Look forward to seeing you all tonight!
> To join us:
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> 
> https://umn.zoom.us/j/93099399062?pwd=YzNoaC9NSFhIbnNoMzMxdUdNWk9yQT09
> 
> 
> 
> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
> 
> Passcode: 2q4PTh
> 
> One tap mobile
> 
> +16513728299,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (St. Paul)
> 
> +13126266799,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (Chicago)
> 
> 
> 
> Dial by your location
> 
>        +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
> 
>        +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
> 
>        +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
> 
>        +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
> 
>        +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
> 
>        +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
> 
>        +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
> 
> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
> 
> Passcode: 478615
> 
> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/ae8ankjUh
> 
> 
> 
> Join by SIP
> 
> 93099399062 at zoomcrc.com
> 
> 
> 
> Join by H.323
> 
> 162.255.37.11 (US West)
> 
> 162.255.36.11 (US East)
> 
> 221.122.88.195 (China)
> 
> 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)
> 
> 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)
> 
> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
> 
> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
> 
> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
> 
> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
> 
> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
> 
> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
> 
> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
> -- 
> Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant
> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
> 100 East 22nd Street
> Minneapolis, MN  55404
> (612) 872-0100 ext. 234
> First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students
> Cell: (920)-285-8530
> hunterkuester2 at gmail.com
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/haleythurston1999%40gmail.com


From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 00:25:06 2020
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 19:25:06 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness reminder
In-Reply-To: <2B710DF7-4704-46B0-AADA-5CF3C9D8A7A6@gmail.com>
References: <2B710DF7-4704-46B0-AADA-5CF3C9D8A7A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0DA0A2D8-AA62-44FA-A846-25EB22D942A5@gmail.com>

Hi Haley.  We are having some technical issues and should be starting shortly.  Thank you for your patience 

Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

> On Aug 17, 2020, at 7:20 PM, haley thurston via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, my name is haley thurston. Is the zoom meeting starting soon? What’s up with that?
> 
> Haley Thurston
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Hunter Kuester via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Calling all competitive people! Yes MNABS is back with more trivia and we
>> cannot be more excited to crown a new trivia champion. Join us tonight
>> night at 8 PM Eastern 7 PM Central. There will be a variety of categories
>> from geography  to brands and slogans. Tell your friends and family. We
>> welcome everyone federation or not. Look forward to seeing you all tonight!
>> To join us:
>> 
>> Join Zoom Meeting
>> 
>> https://umn.zoom.us/j/93099399062?pwd=YzNoaC9NSFhIbnNoMzMxdUdNWk9yQT09
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
>> 
>> Passcode: 2q4PTh
>> 
>> One tap mobile
>> 
>> +16513728299,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (St. Paul)
>> 
>> +13126266799,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (Chicago)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dial by your location
>> 
>>       +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
>> 
>>       +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>> 
>>       +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
>> 
>>       +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>> 
>>       +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>> 
>>       +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>> 
>>       +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
>> 
>> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
>> 
>> Passcode: 478615
>> 
>> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/ae8ankjUh
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Join by SIP
>> 
>> 93099399062 at zoomcrc.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Join by H.323
>> 
>> 162.255.37.11 (US West)
>> 
>> 162.255.36.11 (US East)
>> 
>> 221.122.88.195 (China)
>> 
>> 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)
>> 
>> 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)
>> 
>> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
>> 
>> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
>> 
>> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
>> 
>> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
>> 
>> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
>> 
>> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
>> 
>> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
>> -- 
>> Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant
>> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
>> 100 East 22nd Street
>> Minneapolis, MN  55404
>> (612) 872-0100 ext. 234
>> First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students
>> Cell: (920)-285-8530
>> hunterkuester2 at gmail.com
>> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/haleythurston1999%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/codybeardslee%40gmail.com

From nspohn0 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 00:27:15 2020
From: nspohn0 at gmail.com (nspohn0 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:27:15 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] How to Use VitalSource
Message-ID: <001301d674f6$53209770$f961c650$@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

 

My disability office coordinator said that he cannot find my calculus and
chemistry textbooks in an accessible format for a screen reader on
Bookshare. He told me to buy the books on VitalSource. How does this process
work? Can you buy screen reader accessible versions of chemistry and
calculus textbooks on VitalSource? Does Vital Source only sell hard print
copies of textbooks? 

 

Thank You,

Nic 

 


From matthewhgip at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 00:34:11 2020
From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 19:34:11 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness reminder
In-Reply-To: <0DA0A2D8-AA62-44FA-A846-25EB22D942A5@gmail.com>
References: <0DA0A2D8-AA62-44FA-A846-25EB22D942A5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D49754F3-827A-402E-B392-D0C6A31DCC58@gmail.com>

Here is the link to trivia tonight: 

https://umn.zoom.us/j/6406431514?pwd=S2hZUlZ5TDJyWFkvekgxYXB4aWUrdz09

Matthew Gip 

> On Aug 17, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Cody Beardslee via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Haley.  We are having some technical issues and should be starting shortly.  Thank you for your patience 
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
> 100 East 22nd Street
> Minneapolis, MN  55404
> (612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2020, at 7:20 PM, haley thurston via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, my name is haley thurston. Is the zoom meeting starting soon? What’s up with that?
>> 
>> Haley Thurston
>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Hunter Kuester via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Calling all competitive people! Yes MNABS is back with more trivia and we
>>> cannot be more excited to crown a new trivia champion. Join us tonight
>>> night at 8 PM Eastern 7 PM Central. There will be a variety of categories
>>> from geography  to brands and slogans. Tell your friends and family. We
>>> welcome everyone federation or not. Look forward to seeing you all tonight!
>>> To join us:
>>> 
>>> Join Zoom Meeting
>>> 
>>> https://umn.zoom.us/j/93099399062?pwd=YzNoaC9NSFhIbnNoMzMxdUdNWk9yQT09
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
>>> 
>>> Passcode: 2q4PTh
>>> 
>>> One tap mobile
>>> 
>>> +16513728299,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (St. Paul)
>>> 
>>> +13126266799,,93099399062#,,,,,,0#,,478615# US (Chicago)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dial by your location
>>> 
>>>      +1 651 372 8299 US (St. Paul)
>>> 
>>>      +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>>> 
>>>      +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
>>> 
>>>      +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>>> 
>>>      +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>>> 
>>>      +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>>> 
>>>      +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
>>> 
>>> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
>>> 
>>> Passcode: 478615
>>> 
>>> Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/ae8ankjUh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Join by SIP
>>> 
>>> 93099399062 at zoomcrc.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Join by H.323
>>> 
>>> 162.255.37.11 (US West)
>>> 
>>> 162.255.36.11 (US East)
>>> 
>>> 221.122.88.195 (China)
>>> 
>>> 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai)
>>> 
>>> 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad)
>>> 
>>> 213.19.144.110 (EMEA)
>>> 
>>> 103.122.166.55 (Australia)
>>> 
>>> 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR)
>>> 
>>> 64.211.144.160 (Brazil)
>>> 
>>> 69.174.57.160 (Canada)
>>> 
>>> 207.226.132.110 (Japan)
>>> 
>>> Meeting ID: 930 9939 9062
>>> -- 
>>> Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant
>>> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
>>> 100 East 22nd Street
>>> Minneapolis, MN  55404
>>> (612) 872-0100 ext. 234
>>> First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students
>>> Cell: (920)-285-8530
>>> hunterkuester2 at gmail.com
>>> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NABS-L mailing list
>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/haleythurston1999%40gmail.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NABS-L mailing list
>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/codybeardslee%40gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matthewhgip%40gmail.com

From jty727 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 01:02:29 2020
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:02:29 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] How to Use VitalSource
In-Reply-To: <001301d674f6$53209770$f961c650$@gmail.com>
References: <001301d674f6$53209770$f961c650$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s5+xOBD+8VSqCbiRzd+eLVXWze6uxpr80QRU1Xwv-uBdA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Nic,

So you can sign up for a Vital Source account by going to the following link:

https://www.vitalsource.com/login

You'd want to select the area where it says something like new to
vital source?  Once you have established your account, you can log in
and search for the specific book title, author, or ISBN# Vital Source
has many eTexts so it will work fine. I'm not sure if they have the
specific books you're looking for though.

Best of luck,

Justin Young

On 8/17/20, nspohn0--- via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> My disability office coordinator said that he cannot find my calculus and
> chemistry textbooks in an accessible format for a screen reader on
> Bookshare. He told me to buy the books on VitalSource. How does this
> process
> work? Can you buy screen reader accessible versions of chemistry and
> calculus textbooks on VitalSource? Does Vital Source only sell hard print
> copies of textbooks?
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Nic
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Tue Aug 18 10:40:58 2020
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:40:58 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Science Talk
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR07MB497640A05A3C6872BC59D7A7AA5C0@SN6PR07MB4976.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN6PR07MB497640A05A3C6872BC59D7A7AA5C0@SN6PR07MB4976.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <SN6PR07MB497678696D4485148D81AF5EAA5C0@SN6PR07MB4976.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Folks,

The Science and Engineering Division of the National Federation of the Blind is presenting a virtual meeting on how blind professionals, and blind college and graduate students, are succeeding in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. The Zoom meeting will occur at 9 PM through 10 PM Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) on Monday, August 24, 2020.

Topics will be of interest to blind students in middle school, high school, college, and graduate school and to professionals. Parents of blind school-aged children and educators are also welcome.

Currently, the scheduled speakers and topics are:

Kaden Colton  Using Data Analytics to Understand Fire-Atmosphere Interactions,

David Hertweck  How Does Computer Science Meet Physical Science, and

Kennedy Stomberg  Succeeding as A Blind Student in Graduate School in The Life Sciences.

This Zoom meeting will have a 100-person limit.  The Zoom contact data is:
Join the Zoom Meeting on August 24, 2020, At 9 PM EDT:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84784432104

Meeting ID: 847 8443 2104
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E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com<mailto:ljmaher03 at outlook.com>

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From ALewis at nfb.org  Tue Aug 18 12:30:07 2020
From: ALewis at nfb.org (Lewis, Anil)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:30:07 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Call for Research Participants
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2020 Online Research Platform Study

This semester, the National Federation of the Blind is working with HathiTrust Accessibility to conduct a study on the accessibility and usability of an online research platform. If you are a college student, higher education faculty member, or other professional conducting academic research, please complete this survey<https://www.nfb.org/libraries/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=18310&qid=4012852> in order to be considered to participate in the study.

All who complete the survey will be entered into a raffle drawing for a Visa gift card as well. We will be reviewing the pool of applicants with the goal of identifying 100 study participants. Additional information will be provided to those chosen to participate in the study.





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From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 21:53:33 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:53:33 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Ride the Wave:  NABS Annual Fantasy Football
Message-ID: <0D05E4EE-1719-4441-BF56-25781F494CCC@gmail.com>

Good Afternoon NABS Friends and Family
>  
> 
> The time is upon us for our annual fantasy football initiative! With season kickoff starting September 10, I am here to provide you all with the run down of the process for this year’s fundraiser.
> 
>  
> 
> What is Fantasy Football?
> 
> Fantasy football is a game where participants (you) create fantasy NFL teams comprised of different players, positions,  and teams to  compete against each other throughout the regular season, using an online platform to track and calculate points. Once your teams are created, each week you compete against another team owner in your league. After a game, the points are totaled, and owners and their teams move up or down in the standings. At the end of the season, the owners/teams with enough points are qualified to compete in the playoffs and, eventually, the championship.
> 
>  
> 
> What’s the buy-in?
> 
> As the fundraising initiative has done in past years, there is a $25 buy-in value for each owner that wants to participate in the league. This amount must be provided to your league commissioner prior to your drafting of team players and the season kickoff or draft. With kickoff swiftly approaching, the deadline for a team owner to register for the fantasy football league with a commissioner  is Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12pm EST. This is a firm deadline to give commissioners and team owners time to get organized before the kick-off the following week.
> 
>  
> 
> What’s the payout?
> 
> If you are victorious in your respective league, your reward payout will be $100! That’s 100 reasons why you should support NABS by participating, supporting, or spreading the word of this exciting opportunity. It’s an excellent way to connect with your fellow students and many others in some friendly competition.
> 
>  
> 
> How do I sign up for a league?
> 
> In order to partake in this exciting opportunity, a potential team owner (you) must contact a league commissioner and express interest in registering as soon as possible. Keep in mind, there will be no  guarantee that you are a registered team owner until you send your $25 payment to your commissioner and the NABS treasurer verifies the payment. NABS can accept a variety of payment options, which can be accessed by contacting the commissioner you are registering with.
> 
>  
> 
> Who are Commissioners?
> 
> There are four  concurrent leagues running this year for the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative. To register as a team owner, we invite you to contact one of the commissioners as soon as possible to claim your spot. We have listed assigned regions for each league as a rule of thumb, but if you have preference for joining a different league, you are welcome to reach out to any of the following commissioners to sign up:
> 
>  
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Midwest Commissioner
> 
> codybeardslee at gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> Logan Stenzel, Southern Commissioner
> 
> stenzellogan at gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> Robert Parsons, Pacific Commissioner
> 
> Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu
> 
>  
> 
> Gerald Meredith, Atlantic Commissioner
> 
> Geraldmeredith1 at outlook.com
> 
>  
> 
> Not Sold Yet?
> 
> As a bonus incentive, NABS has received a generous donation from Mt. Zion Church, located in Michigan, in the form of a $25 uber gift card. This prize will be awarded to the member that brings in the most external participants for this initiative. An external participant is defined as any team owner who is not an NFB member that successfully pays the buy-in amount and actively plays in the league. This can include your family, friends, coworkers, and associates. We look forward to having the most dynamic league yet.
> 
>  
> 
> Other Questions?
> 
> For more information about the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative and other fundraising questions, please contact Robert Parsons at Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu or a commissioner listed above. We look forward to connecting with all of you and continuing to make this tradition a fun and productive one for our division.
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Robert Parsons, Jr.
> 
> Chair, Fundraising Committee
> 
> Board Member, National Association of Blind Students
> 
> Vice President, Michigan Association of Blind Students
> 
>  

From cricketbidleman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 00:37:29 2020
From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:37:29 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] California Reception: self-advocacy in higher education
Message-ID: <4006EA09-F417-4BCC-B018-C6724E1356D3@gmail.com>

Hello fellow students!

Looking for a break from school and homework? Want to socialize with other spectacular students? Need some advice on how to advocate for yourself in this increasingly virtual world? The California Association of Blind Students has the perfect online event for you!

We are planning a fun-filled reception in September, to which all are welcome! You don’t even have to be from California. We’ll be hearing from a great group of students and parents who have volunteered to talk to us about effective advocacy techniques, so invite other students and parents to join us. We’ll also have games and door prizes, so come on down! If you have questions you want the panel to answer, email them to me.

Date: Saturday, September 26, 2020
Time: 2:00-3:30 Pacific
Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/166747930401206/posts/900427473699911/?extid=bmOMVG5RkBohpC1F&d=n

Best,
CXB

—
Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers)
Stanford University | Class of 2021
BA Candidate | Communications
Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science
Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU)
President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS)
 

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From svilla at nfbtx.org  Wed Aug 19 02:34:00 2020
From: svilla at nfbtx.org (Salvador Villa)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 21:34:00 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Recruiting for NACHO's Health and Disability Fellowship
 Program
Message-ID: <CALokqkEY-2WuTn=aYErTzvx_tY5aZ4USxDkFt0S9Rn3O-azt1A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey y'all, check this out.
The National Association of County and City Health Officials (NACCHO) is
recruiting for two graduate students to join the 2020-2021 Health and
Disability Fellowship Program. This program offers an invaluable workforce
development opportunity for graduate students seeking hands-on experience in
the public health disability field. NACCHO trains the fellows to become
leaders in promoting the health of people with disabilities through
inclusive programming, products, and services.

This is a paid fellowship slated to start in September 2020 and run through
July 30th, 2021. The fellowship includes a stipend not to exceed $8,000 and
travel expenses to at least one conference or meeting. ASL interpreters,
captioning services, or other accommodations are available upon request. The
fellows can work at NACCHO's headquarters in Washington, DC, or they can
work remotely from their graduate school location.

Applications will be reviewed through September 1, 2020. Learn more and
apply<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__careers.naccho.or
g_jobs_13800619_health-2Dand-2Ddisability-2Dfellowship&d=DwMFAg&c=bKRySV-ouE
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5L_LqYAwTQUVhIIOPCQ&e=>. For questions about the fellowship, contact Sara
Lyons at slyons at naccho.org<mailto:slyons at naccho.org>.


Sara Lyons, MPH (pronouns: she/her/hers) Program Analyst, Health and
Disability National Association of County and City Health Officials (NACCHO)
1201 Eye Street, NW, Fourth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Direct: 202-507-4237
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-- 
Sal Villa   |   President
National Federation of the Blind of Texas, Texas Association of Blind
Students
PH: (202) 681-2791
Email: svilla at nfbtx.org
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From SDubnow at nfb.org  Wed Aug 19 15:51:28 2020
From: SDubnow at nfb.org (Dubnow, Stacie)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 15:51:28 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] User Testing Opportunity for $200!
Message-ID: <MN2PR17MB3902C34195C825BEA94BC0E0B25D0@MN2PR17MB3902.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

The National Federation of the Blind is searching for individuals to participate in 10 hours of user testing of the accessibility and usability of accounting homework content. Compensation of $200.00 will be provided.

If you meet the following criteria and are interested in participating, please email me.


1.     You are blind or low-vision.

2.     You are a student or recent graduate and either have taken an accounting class or are familiar with accounting principles. You do not need to have accounting expertise. We are looking for a cross-section of skill levels.

3.     You are proficient using screen reader access technology.
Thank you.

Best,

Stacie Dubnow


Stacie Dubnow, J.D.
Project Manager
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
410-659-9314, extension 2442 | sdubnow at nfb.org<mailto:sdubnow at nfb.org>

[National Federation of the Blind]<https://nfb.org/>

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The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.

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From bestca21 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 16:07:10 2020
From: bestca21 at gmail.com (Caitlin A Best)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:07:10 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] User Testing Opportunity for $200!
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR17MB3902C34195C825BEA94BC0E0B25D0@MN2PR17MB3902.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MN2PR17MB3902C34195C825BEA94BC0E0B25D0@MN2PR17MB3902.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <819DE990-466A-4B20-818A-27DA606227DF@gmail.com>

Hi Stacy! My name is Caitlin I am a recent graduate and have a background with accounting. I am blind and interested in participating in this. Thank you, Caitlin

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:01, Dubnow, Stacie via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind is searching for individuals to participate in 10 hours of user testing of the accessibility and usability of accounting homework content. Compensation of $200.00 will be provided.
> 
> If you meet the following criteria and are interested in participating, please email me.
> 
> 
> 1.     You are blind or low-vision.
> 
> 2.     You are a student or recent graduate and either have taken an accounting class or are familiar with accounting principles. You do not need to have accounting expertise. We are looking for a cross-section of skill levels.
> 
> 3.     You are proficient using screen reader access technology.
> Thank you.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Stacie Dubnow
> 
> 
> Stacie Dubnow, J.D.
> Project Manager
> 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
> 410-659-9314, extension 2442 | sdubnow at nfb.org<mailto:sdubnow at nfb.org>
> 
> [National Federation of the Blind]<https://nfb.org/>
> 
>                         [Facebook] <http://www.facebook.com/nationalfederationoftheblind>     [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/NFB_Voice>     [Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/NationsBlind>
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> 
> Disclaimer
> 
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:59:34 +0000
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Thanks, Caitlin! I will pass your information on to Kevin Moran at McGraw-Hill, who is coordinating this user testing. 

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Hi Stacy! My name is Caitlin I am a recent graduate and have a background with accounting. I am blind and interested in participating in this. Thank you, Caitlin

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> On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:01, Dubnow, Stacie via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind is searching for individuals to participate in 10 hours of user testing of the accessibility and usability of accounting homework content. Compensation of $200.00 will be provided.
> 
> If you meet the following criteria and are interested in participating, please email me.
> 
> 
> 1.     You are blind or low-vision.
> 
> 2.     You are a student or recent graduate and either have taken an accounting class or are familiar with accounting principles. You do not need to have accounting expertise. We are looking for a cross-section of skill levels.
> 
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> 
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> 
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From bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 19:13:43 2020
From: bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com (Bhavya shah)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:43:43 +0530
Subject: [NABS-L] {Spam?} Re: Urgent - Studying College Level STEM Without
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Dear all,

Thank you everyone so, so much for your prompt responses. I will be
enrolling this year and will be allowed to take a leave of absence if
things don't work out. To be clear, my university's OAE is supporting
me however possible, and we are looking into alternate ways of getting
tactile graphics to me. However, if factors beyond our control make
tactile graphics infeasible to provide, I have had some conversations
and reflections and determined that:
(a) I have studied rigorous high school STEM curriculum without any
tactile graphics (and without any alt text or Math ML content even),
so I am accustomed to having only a visual descriptionist.
(b) There is precedent to blind students taking classes like the Math
50 series without tactile graphics.
(c) I have studied organic chemistry, solid state, and chemical
bonding in a fair depth in high school without tactual aids so first
year level Chemistry coursework should be manageable, and even if it
isn't, I'd be happy to forego Chemistry in favour of other fields that
fascinate me.
(d) Gene has been absolutely incredible in sharing the list of courses
that he did and I now feel confident about studying subjects like
psychology, sociology, linguistics, and philosophy without TGs.
(e) It's curious how most blind students in the US use Braille
textbooks and tactile graphics to study STEM curriculum even in
school. I recognize some unique benefits it has, and perhaps I realize
over my own college journey their value, but I think it should be
possible and fulfilling to study these subjects without them. Let's
see.

Again, many thanks for all of your advice.

Thanks.

On 8/16/20, Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hey Bhavya,
>
> First and foremost, I sincerely hope that the OAE will be able to find a
> solution—the transition to college is already difficult enough. I'll list a
> few classes I presume you may be interested in based on your e-mail and
> previous conversations and my thoughts on each, but generally, while I do
> think you could build the first year's courses in a way that makes tactile
> graphics not as necessary, if you find that your options are too limited or
> that you aren't satisfied with your selection, maybe it is worth
> considering taking a quarter or few off. You can take a leave of absence at
> almost any time throughout the year. I would also caution that since some
> courses are offered only once/twice a year (e.g. Chem 31M), if you decide
> to enroll this upcoming year and decide not to take those
> particular classes, you may end up having to take them as a second or even
> third year in standing, which could delay some of the upper divs that list
> those particular classes as prerequisites as well. That being said, I think
> if you're confident in your ability to visualize graphs/your
> spacial reasoning, maybe a description and alt text would be enough. I
> would also strongly recommend investing in something like a draftsman or
> sensational blackboard so that you will be able to draw your own
> low-fidelity TGs. Perhaps you could confirm with the visual descriptionist
> if what you understood and drew are accurate (e.g. ask the descriptionist
> to explain a Chemical bond's structure, try to draw it out yourself, then
> show and ask them if what you drew is accurate to reassure yourself that
> you understood it). With that, here are some classes separated by subject
> and my subjective thoughts:
>
> Chemistry:
> Chem 33: I am quite confident that this class dives deeply into molecular
> structure, so I imagine it will be very challenging without TGs. This class
> is also infamous for being extremely difficult, so I would advise to take
> it when you have every resource at your disposal.
> (I unfortunately know very little about Chem 31A/B/M, aside from the fact
> that 31M is also a very difficult class. I would suggest trying to find an
> old syllabus to see how visual the concepts are or reaching out to the
> professor. I think these classes in general will be less involved than Bio
> or Physics, the latter of which I took and feel like TGs were extremely
> helpful but maybe not necessary if I had an effective reader and alt text.)
>
> Math:
> Math 21: Briefly looking at these concepts, I think you'll fair well
> without TGs. A lot of these concepts are more numerical than graphical
> (limits, integration techniques, series/sequences, etc.) I'm sure graphs
> will pop up, but I don't remember them being extremely complicated (I think
> alt text and visual descriptionist should be enough, and even more so if
> you're able to sketch some of these out using the tactile drawing tools
> mentioned above.)
> Math 51: I think this class is extremely visual and graph intensive
> (especially once you begin to work with contour plots and graphing beyond
> 2D come week 4). I would strongly suggest taking this when you have tactile
> graphics available, but I do think it can be done without them (just expect
> to invest a lot of time and effort because the class moves near
> unforgivingly quickly.)
>
> Computer Science:
> CS 106A: I am quite confident that you would do well in this class without
> TGs. The graphs you may encounter will be relatively straight forward, and
> the CS department is extremely skilled at accommodating for the blind.
> CS 106B/107: These are also very doable without TGs (I personally didn't
> rely on them much). However, I will say that these courses use more graphs
> than 106A. Likely the main diagrams here would be tree diagrams (that may
> get a little complicated if just reading alt text) for things like
> recursion, decision trees, etc (i.e. a parent tree entry branches off into
> three children, and each of those children branch off into two more
> children, and so on.) You also work a lot with pointers, and some of the
> lecturers like to work out how pointers change the thing they are pointing
> at by drawing diagrams. I didn't need a TG to understand this, but it did
> take a lot of thinking and visualizing for me to convince myself that I
> understood it.
>
> Psych:
> Psych 1: I believe most of the concepts here will be terminology and
> conceptually-based. I believe there is a neuroscience unit where you are
> taught various regions of the brain, which may be a little difficult to
> visualize without a TG but is still doable in my opinion. The class also
> has an emphasis on research design/different kinds of study techniques,
> which may involve some simple graphs, but those shouldn't be too difficult
> to visualize.
> Psych 70: This class uses almost no graphics. If you're interested in
> social psychology to any extent, I think this would be a perfectly
> non-compromised and exciting experience without TGs.
>
> PWR/Philosophy/Linguistics/Creative Writing:
> Anything in this general space doesn't rely on TGs at all (unless there is
> a supplemental graph to a study you are reading for PWR or if you take a
> Linguistics class that focuses on phonology or acoustics). Phil 1, Phil 2,
> Phil 80, Linguistics 1, Psych 140, English 9CE, and English 90 are all
> great classes a lot of frosh take that would be exciting and not
> compromised without access to TGs.
>
> There are certainly enough classes here (and plenty I haven't mentioned on
> explorecourses.stanford.edu) to fill a few quarters, but again if you find
> that one quarter there aren't all that many classes that seem compelling or
> workable, maybe it's not a bad idea to request a leave of absence (course
> selection for the upcoming quarter is generally around week 6 or 7 of the
> current quarter, giving you plenty of time to think things through). I'd
> also be more than happy to give random class recommendations offline if
> you'd like some help filtering the thousands of classes our university
> offers each quarter.
>
> Best of luck going forward, and please don't hesitate to reach out if I can
> help in any way (hopefully this e-mail helped somewhat).
>
> Kindly,
> Gene
> Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. Candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford University
> Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:48 PM Bhavya shah via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As an international incoming freshman at a US university, I am now
>> faced with the real possibility of studying for the entirety of my
>> frosh year online. There are so many other factors to consider, but
>> this mail is about one specific one.
>>
>> I plan on studying subjects and taking classes that have visual
>> content like graphs, diagrams and other figures, i.e. STEM and related
>> areas. Since I will be enrolled remotely, my university's Office of
>> Accessible Education has assured me (a) alt text for images in my
>> study material, and (b) a visual descriptionist who will be a graduate
>> student in the subject of the class. However, what is very uncertain
>> right now is access to tactile graphics because of all the timelines
>> and challenges of international shipping. We are still exploring this,
>> but there is a good chance I won't be able to receive tactile graphics
>> for the period in which I am enrolled remotely.
>>
>> Which subjects do you think have a substantial visual component to it?
>> I am not interested in physics or biology, but definitely want to take
>> up Mathematics, try a Chemistry class or two, study new disciplines
>> like Linguistics, and be able to have as many options open for
>> coursework.
>> For these fields, how important do you think is tactile material to
>> properly understand and absorb the subject matter? Could I do without
>> it and be successful while relying only on textual and verbal means
>> instead?
>> Do you think it is generally possible for me to design my first year
>> course load a little differently so as to take only those classes
>> which are less graphical in nature? I am thinking I could focus more
>> on probability than conics in mathematics for instance. It is worth
>> keeping in mind here that not all topics are are covered in frosh
>> friendly courses so my ability to do this may be limited.
>>
>> The reason why I indicate urgency in the subject line is because I
>> need to take my call about going ahead with remote enrollment or
>> considering a gap year very soon. Any inputs or perspectives are
>> hugely appreciated.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Bhavya Shah
>> Stanford University | Class of (hopefully) 2024
>> ;
>>
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-- 
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/


From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 19:43:00 2020
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 15:43:00 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: Urgent - Studying College Level
 STEM Without Tactile Material
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You can also take a reduced course load.

 That is an accommodation for someone with a disability, and you can still retain full time status.

Thanks,

Justin


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From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah via NABS-L
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:14 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] {Spam?} Re: Urgent - Studying College Level STEM Without Tactile Material

Dear all,

Thank you everyone so, so much for your prompt responses. I will be enrolling this year and will be allowed to take a leave of absence if things don't work out. To be clear, my university's OAE is supporting me however possible, and we are looking into alternate ways of getting tactile graphics to me. However, if factors beyond our control make tactile graphics infeasible to provide, I have had some conversations and reflections and determined that:
(a) I have studied rigorous high school STEM curriculum without any tactile graphics (and without any alt text or Math ML content even), so I am accustomed to having only a visual descriptionist.
(b) There is precedent to blind students taking classes like the Math
50 series without tactile graphics.
(c) I have studied organic chemistry, solid state, and chemical bonding in a fair depth in high school without tactual aids so first year level Chemistry coursework should be manageable, and even if it isn't, I'd be happy to forego Chemistry in favour of other fields that fascinate me.
(d) Gene has been absolutely incredible in sharing the list of courses that he did and I now feel confident about studying subjects like psychology, sociology, linguistics, and philosophy without TGs.
(e) It's curious how most blind students in the US use Braille textbooks and tactile graphics to study STEM curriculum even in school. I recognize some unique benefits it has, and perhaps I realize over my own college journey their value, but I think it should be possible and fulfilling to study these subjects without them. Let's see.

Again, many thanks for all of your advice.

Thanks.

On 8/16/20, Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hey Bhavya,
>
> First and foremost, I sincerely hope that the OAE will be able to find 
> a solution—the transition to college is already difficult enough. I'll 
> list a few classes I presume you may be interested in based on your 
> e-mail and previous conversations and my thoughts on each, but 
> generally, while I do think you could build the first year's courses 
> in a way that makes tactile graphics not as necessary, if you find 
> that your options are too limited or that you aren't satisfied with 
> your selection, maybe it is worth considering taking a quarter or few 
> off. You can take a leave of absence at almost any time throughout the 
> year. I would also caution that since some courses are offered only 
> once/twice a year (e.g. Chem 31M), if you decide to enroll this 
> upcoming year and decide not to take those particular classes, you may 
> end up having to take them as a second or even third year in standing, 
> which could delay some of the upper divs that list those particular 
> classes as prerequisites as well. That being said, I think if you're 
> confident in your ability to visualize graphs/your spacial reasoning, 
> maybe a description and alt text would be enough. I would also 
> strongly recommend investing in something like a draftsman or 
> sensational blackboard so that you will be able to draw your own 
> low-fidelity TGs. Perhaps you could confirm with the visual 
> descriptionist if what you understood and drew are accurate (e.g. ask 
> the descriptionist to explain a Chemical bond's structure, try to draw 
> it out yourself, then show and ask them if what you drew is accurate 
> to reassure yourself that you understood it). With that, here are some classes separated by subject and my subjective thoughts:
>
> Chemistry:
> Chem 33: I am quite confident that this class dives deeply into 
> molecular structure, so I imagine it will be very challenging without 
> TGs. This class is also infamous for being extremely difficult, so I 
> would advise to take it when you have every resource at your disposal.
> (I unfortunately know very little about Chem 31A/B/M, aside from the 
> fact that 31M is also a very difficult class. I would suggest trying 
> to find an old syllabus to see how visual the concepts are or reaching 
> out to the professor. I think these classes in general will be less 
> involved than Bio or Physics, the latter of which I took and feel like 
> TGs were extremely helpful but maybe not necessary if I had an 
> effective reader and alt text.)
>
> Math:
> Math 21: Briefly looking at these concepts, I think you'll fair well 
> without TGs. A lot of these concepts are more numerical than graphical 
> (limits, integration techniques, series/sequences, etc.) I'm sure 
> graphs will pop up, but I don't remember them being extremely 
> complicated (I think alt text and visual descriptionist should be 
> enough, and even more so if you're able to sketch some of these out 
> using the tactile drawing tools mentioned above.) Math 51: I think 
> this class is extremely visual and graph intensive (especially once 
> you begin to work with contour plots and graphing beyond 2D come week 
> 4). I would strongly suggest taking this when you have tactile 
> graphics available, but I do think it can be done without them (just 
> expect to invest a lot of time and effort because the class moves near 
> unforgivingly quickly.)
>
> Computer Science:
> CS 106A: I am quite confident that you would do well in this class 
> without TGs. The graphs you may encounter will be relatively straight 
> forward, and the CS department is extremely skilled at accommodating for the blind.
> CS 106B/107: These are also very doable without TGs (I personally 
> didn't rely on them much). However, I will say that these courses use 
> more graphs than 106A. Likely the main diagrams here would be tree 
> diagrams (that may get a little complicated if just reading alt text) 
> for things like recursion, decision trees, etc (i.e. a parent tree 
> entry branches off into three children, and each of those children 
> branch off into two more children, and so on.) You also work a lot 
> with pointers, and some of the lecturers like to work out how pointers 
> change the thing they are pointing at by drawing diagrams. I didn't 
> need a TG to understand this, but it did take a lot of thinking and 
> visualizing for me to convince myself that I understood it.
>
> Psych:
> Psych 1: I believe most of the concepts here will be terminology and 
> conceptually-based. I believe there is a neuroscience unit where you 
> are taught various regions of the brain, which may be a little 
> difficult to visualize without a TG but is still doable in my opinion. 
> The class also has an emphasis on research design/different kinds of 
> study techniques, which may involve some simple graphs, but those 
> shouldn't be too difficult to visualize.
> Psych 70: This class uses almost no graphics. If you're interested in 
> social psychology to any extent, I think this would be a perfectly 
> non-compromised and exciting experience without TGs.
>
> PWR/Philosophy/Linguistics/Creative Writing:
> Anything in this general space doesn't rely on TGs at all (unless 
> there is a supplemental graph to a study you are reading for PWR or if 
> you take a Linguistics class that focuses on phonology or acoustics). 
> Phil 1, Phil 2, Phil 80, Linguistics 1, Psych 140, English 9CE, and 
> English 90 are all great classes a lot of frosh take that would be 
> exciting and not compromised without access to TGs.
>
> There are certainly enough classes here (and plenty I haven't 
> mentioned on
> explorecourses.stanford.edu) to fill a few quarters, but again if you 
> find that one quarter there aren't all that many classes that seem 
> compelling or workable, maybe it's not a bad idea to request a leave 
> of absence (course selection for the upcoming quarter is generally 
> around week 6 or 7 of the current quarter, giving you plenty of time 
> to think things through). I'd also be more than happy to give random 
> class recommendations offline if you'd like some help filtering the 
> thousands of classes our university offers each quarter.
>
> Best of luck going forward, and please don't hesitate to reach out if 
> I can help in any way (hopefully this e-mail helped somewhat).
>
> Kindly,
> Gene
> Gene Sung-Ho Kim | B.S. Candidate, Symbolic Systems | Stanford 
> University Secretary | California Association of Blind Students
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:48 PM Bhavya shah via NABS-L 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As an international incoming freshman at a US university, I am now 
>> faced with the real possibility of studying for the entirety of my 
>> frosh year online. There are so many other factors to consider, but 
>> this mail is about one specific one.
>>
>> I plan on studying subjects and taking classes that have visual 
>> content like graphs, diagrams and other figures, i.e. STEM and 
>> related areas. Since I will be enrolled remotely, my university's 
>> Office of Accessible Education has assured me (a) alt text for images 
>> in my study material, and (b) a visual descriptionist who will be a 
>> graduate student in the subject of the class. However, what is very 
>> uncertain right now is access to tactile graphics because of all the 
>> timelines and challenges of international shipping. We are still 
>> exploring this, but there is a good chance I won't be able to receive 
>> tactile graphics for the period in which I am enrolled remotely.
>>
>> Which subjects do you think have a substantial visual component to it?
>> I am not interested in physics or biology, but definitely want to 
>> take up Mathematics, try a Chemistry class or two, study new 
>> disciplines like Linguistics, and be able to have as many options 
>> open for coursework.
>> For these fields, how important do you think is tactile material to 
>> properly understand and absorb the subject matter? Could I do without 
>> it and be successful while relying only on textual and verbal means 
>> instead?
>> Do you think it is generally possible for me to design my first year 
>> course load a little differently so as to take only those classes 
>> which are less graphical in nature? I am thinking I could focus more 
>> on probability than conics in mathematics for instance. It is worth 
>> keeping in mind here that not all topics are are covered in frosh 
>> friendly courses so my ability to do this may be limited.
>>
>> The reason why I indicate urgency in the subject line is because I 
>> need to take my call about going ahead with remote enrollment or 
>> considering a gap year very soon. Any inputs or perspectives are 
>> hugely appreciated.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Bhavya Shah
>> Stanford University | Class of (hopefully) 2024 ;
>>
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--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

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From schoi09 at outlook.com  Wed Aug 19 21:46:10 2020
From: schoi09 at outlook.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:46:10 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Calling All High School Students: You're Invited to The
 NABS Now Podcast, Read on for Details!
Message-ID: <75A3A05B-848C-4BF3-917D-A1D20A642BA6@outlook.com>

Dear NABS family,

I hope this message finds you well. The NABS outreach committee have been hard at work to launch our next major episode for the month of October. We are thrilled to give all of you a little sneak peek but we need your help. The episode will focus on applying to colleges and universities as a blind student at the undergraduate level. I have personally found this process to be slightly challenging in that there are not many resources that are specifically intended to answer many questions I had as a blind student. It is this reason why we invite all students applying for your first colleges and universities to join us at our October NABS now podcast. Students who are interested in participating may do so in one of the following ways. I anticipate this episode to be primarily question & answer or Q&A format. You may submit a voice recording of you with your questions to be featured on the podcast or by emailing me at: schoi09 at outlook.com<mailto:schoi09 at outlook.com> with your questions. Simply use the Voice Memos app to record a 10-15 second recording and send them to the email address above. We also invite current undergraduates and graduate students to join us as our guest speakers for the podcast to answer questions submitted by our students.

The deadline to submit all questions is September 15 by 11:59 PM.

We’re really excited to hopefully have many of you join us for what I anticipate to be one of our most jam-pact, vibrant episode this October, just in time for when many students begin applying.

Please reach out to outreach leadership if you have any questions, concerns and comments.

Elizabeth: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com<mailto:elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com>
Nina: ninam0814 at gmail.com<mailto:ninam0814 at gmail.com>
Seyoon: schoi09 at outlook.com<mailto:schoi09 at outlook.com>

Take care,
Seyoon

Seyoon Choi, he/him/his
President: Missouri Association of Blind Students
Co-chair | Outreach Committee
National Association of Blind Students
schoi09 at outlook.com<mailto:schoi09 at outlook.com>
(314) 650-8306


From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 20 11:38:26 2020
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:38:26 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited! August Membership Call - Back to School
 with NABS: Navigating a New Era of Education Happening Sunday August 23 at
 9 PM Eastern
Message-ID: <SA0PR13MB401412F981CD699B9B14B511F35A0@SA0PR13MB4014.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Hey students!
We hope that you all are preparing for the transition back to school. NABS is here with our August membership call to make this transition much less painless, and maybe even a little fun.☺️
Join us on Sunday August 23 at 9 PM Eastern for Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New Era of Education. We will be covering everything from making the most of online classes, to traveling safely and according to social distancing, to staying focussed and fit, and so much more! We can't wait to start this school year right with you all!
Join Zoom Meeting:

https://zoom.us/my/blindstudents
Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions before the call.
All the Best,
Nina

Nina Marranca
She/her/hers
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
Chair | Outreach Committee
Secretary Treasurer | New York Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
ninam0814 at gmail.com
www.nabslink.org

From nabs.president at gmail.com  Thu Aug 20 14:56:09 2020
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Trisha Kulkarni, National Student President)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:56:09 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Voices Needed: Calling on Current or Perspective Blind
 Students of Duke University
Message-ID: <CAN_54GY=Zb=Zf=7J4_cLhnBoQXGx8ozzjRwrnG=8-gTpiiSLtw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Students,

I am writing to pass along this announcement from our national office. I
encourage you all to spread this message far and wide and take action if
you fit the description below.

As it relates to NFB’s lawsuit against Duke University, we are hoping to
hear from any blind students currently attending or planning to attend
Duke. Please contact our legal coordinator, Valerie Yingling,  at
vyingling at nfb.org if this applies to you.

Link to press release:
https://www.nfb.org/about-us/press-room/national-federation-blind-sues-duke-university

Yours,
Trisha Kulkarni
President | National Association of Blind Students
A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind
www.nabslink.org

From fairall at panix.com  Thu Aug 20 17:55:52 2020
From: fairall at panix.com (Leslie Fairall)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:55:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NABS-L] D2L Question
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008201349150.26418@panix3.panix.com>

Hi everyone:

Both of my classes require me to use the discussion board on D2L. It's 
very accessible, except for one issue. I'm having trouble determining 
which messages are unread. It tells you the number of unread messages 
within a thread, but once you click on the topic, I can't tell which 
messages are unread by me. This is especially important for one class 
because we are expected to read all discussion posts. Thanks for any and 
all replies.

-- 
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com


From fairall at panix.com  Thu Aug 20 18:08:30 2020
From: fairall at panix.com (Leslie Fairall)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:08:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NABS-L] How to Use VitalSource
In-Reply-To: <001301d674f6$53209770$f961c650$@gmail.com>
References: <001301d674f6$53209770$f961c650$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008201402100.26418@panix3.panix.com>

Hello:

Vitalsource sells electronic copies of textbooks, which are working very 
well for me. I'm skipping disability services and buying my books 
straight from the bookstore since they sell the Vitalsource copies as 
well. However, as Justin said, you can create an account on your own and 
purchase straight through Vitalsource itself, which I've done as well. If 
your chemistry or calculus books require the use of charts and graphs, I 
suggest you reach out to your disability service office for assistance.


-- 
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com



From nesmaaly123 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 15:34:54 2020
From: nesmaaly123 at gmail.com (nesma aly)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:34:54 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] How to Use VitalSource
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008201402100.26418@panix3.panix.com>
References: <001301d674f6$53209770$f961c650$@gmail.com>
 <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008201402100.26418@panix3.panix.com>
Message-ID: <CAJTqpvR7yAD4p9MjaWKi8XnMWP8QgwrbzFNe4bV_iCHKhbXrtw@mail.gmail.com>

I tried to use vital source on my iPad through the mobile application, and
I couldn’t seem to figure out whether you have to buy the book through the
website first for it to appear in your app library or can you get it
straight off the app? I tried to use the search feature on the app, but I
was never able to figure out whether that was only a Library search of the
books that I already have or not.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 14:11 Leslie Fairall via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello:
>
>
>
> Vitalsource sells electronic copies of textbooks, which are working very
>
> well for me. I'm skipping disability services and buying my books
>
> straight from the bookstore since they sell the Vitalsource copies as
>
> well. However, as Justin said, you can create an account on your own and
>
> purchase straight through Vitalsource itself, which I've done as well. If
>
> your chemistry or calculus books require the use of charts and graphs, I
>
> suggest you reach out to your disability service office for assistance.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Leslie Fairall
>
> mailto:fairall at panix.com
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> NABS-L mailing list
>
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NABS-L:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/nesmaaly123%40gmail.com
>
>

From fairall at panix.com  Fri Aug 21 16:21:47 2020
From: fairall at panix.com (Leslie Fairall)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 12:21:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NABS-L] How to Use VitalSource
In-Reply-To: <CAJTqpvR7yAD4p9MjaWKi8XnMWP8QgwrbzFNe4bV_iCHKhbXrtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001301d674f6$53209770$f961c650$@gmail.com>
 <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008201402100.26418@panix3.panix.com>
 <CAJTqpvR7yAD4p9MjaWKi8XnMWP8QgwrbzFNe4bV_iCHKhbXrtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008211220280.3622@panix1.panix.com>

I believe you need to purchase the book through your bookstore or the 
Vitalsource website. then you can use your IOS app.


-- 
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com



From jtschwoebel at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 21 16:25:16 2020
From: jtschwoebel at yahoo.com (Jackson Schwoebel)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 12:25:16 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Question Regarding Biology Course
Message-ID: <mailman.372.1772982289.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

NABS Members,

Hello, everyone, I hope all of you are doing well. I am sending out this email to ask if any of you have taken an online biology course before? I have never taken a biology course. I was wondering how accessible these classes are. Or, if any of you had any issues in the past with a biology course? Thank you, and I hope to speak with you soon. 

Kind Regards,

Jackson Schwoebel 



From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Fri Aug 21 19:02:13 2020
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 19:02:13 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Science Talk Announcement
Message-ID: <SN6PR07MB4976A4DE306C0B0F6A06B456AA5B0@SN6PR07MB4976.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

The Science and Engineering Division of the National Federation of the Blind is presenting a virtual meeting on how blind professionals, and blind college and graduate students, are succeeding in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. The Zoom meeting will occur at 9 PM through 10 PM Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) on Monday, August 24, 2020.

Topics will be of interest to blind students in middle school, high school, college, and graduate school and to professionals. Parents of blind school-aged children and educators are also welcome.

Currently, the scheduled speakers and topics are:

Kaden Colton  Using Data Analytics to Understand Fire-Atmosphere Interactions,

David Hertweck  How Does Computer Science Meet Physical Science, and

Kennedy Stomberg  Succeeding as A Blind Student in Graduate School in The Life Sciences.

This Zoom meeting will have a 100-person limit.  The Zoom contact data is:
Join the Zoom Meeting on August 24, 2020, At 9 PM EDT:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84784432104

Meeting ID: 847 8443 2104
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Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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From ninam0814 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 15:21:44 2020
From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:21:44 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited! Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New
 Era of Education Happening Tomorrow Sunday Aug 23 at 9 PM Eastern
Message-ID: <SA0PR13MB4014AB8F6323F1D0A8791D69F3580@SA0PR13MB4014.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Hey students!
We hope that you all are preparing for the transition back to school. NABS is here with our August membership call to make this transition much less painless, and maybe even a little fun.☺️
Join us tomorrow Sunday August 23 at 9 PM Eastern for Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New Era of Education. We will be covering everything from making the most of online classes, to traveling safely and according to social distancing, to staying focussed and fit, and so much more! We can't wait to start this school year right with you all!
Join Zoom Meeting:

https://zoom.us/my/blindstudents
Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions before the call.
All the Best,
Nina

Nina Marranca
She/her/hers
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
Chair | Outreach Committee
Secretary Treasurer | New York Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
ninam0814 at gmail.com
www.nabslink.org

From justin at ekis.us  Sat Aug 22 15:39:00 2020
From: justin at ekis.us (Justin Ekis)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:39:00 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited! Back to School with NABS: Navigating a
 New Era of Education Happening Tomorrow Sunday Aug 23 at 9 PM Eastern
In-Reply-To: <SA0PR13MB4014AB8F6323F1D0A8791D69F3580@SA0PR13MB4014.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SA0PR13MB4014AB8F6323F1D0A8791D69F3580@SA0PR13MB4014.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <04A1D998-91D2-42C0-AD14-C4838F47D764@ekis.us>

Hi Nina, 

I was just wondering, will this presentation be recorded? I have already scheduled something else at that time. I wish I had been aware of this event sooner. I'd really be interested in the information that will be provided, but it would be rather abrupt of me to cancel on people the day before. 

Thanks, 

Justin

> On Aug 22, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Nina Marranca via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey students!
> We hope that you all are preparing for the transition back to school. NABS is here with our August membership call to make this transition much less painless, and maybe even a little fun.☺️
> Join us tomorrow Sunday August 23 at 9 PM Eastern for Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New Era of Education. We will be covering everything from making the most of online classes, to traveling safely and according to social distancing, to staying focussed and fit, and so much more! We can't wait to start this school year right with you all!
> Join Zoom Meeting:
> 
> https://zoom.us/my/blindstudents
> Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions before the call.
> All the Best,
> Nina
> 
> Nina Marranca
> She/her/hers
> Board Member | National Association of Blind Students
> Chair | Outreach Committee
> Secretary Treasurer | New York Association of Blind Students
> A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
> ninam0814 at gmail.com
> www.nabslink.org
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin%40ekis.us



From zdreicer at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 16:08:31 2020
From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary GriegoDreicer)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:08:31 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Question Regarding Biology Course
In-Reply-To: <5f3ff5be.1c69fb81.21edf.b3deSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
References: <5f3ff5be.1c69fb81.21edf.b3deSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <114A2AC2-C1A6-43A7-9AF7-BF08B0CF6DF6@gmail.com>

I have but not during the pandemic. Most everything was accessible, and some of the labs weren’t as much but I had EA’s and classmates. It would be interesting to know how Biologylabs are  being done during this pandemic. If you have any further specific questions, let me know.
Sent from my Macbook Air ‘11

> On Aug 21, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Jackson Schwoebel via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> NABS Members,
> 
> Hello, everyone, I hope all of you are doing well. I am sending out this email to ask if any of you have taken an online biology course before? I have never taken a biology course. I was wondering how accessible these classes are. Or, if any of you had any issues in the past with a biology course? Thank you, and I hope to speak with you soon. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jackson Schwoebel 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NABS-L mailing list
> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com


From QSFord at outlook.com  Sun Aug 23 12:31:37 2020
From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 12:31:37 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Summer sunset trivia chill night
Message-ID: <MN2PR06MB6638FF7F2A5995E92BD2EA57C1590@MN2PR06MB6638.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

This is a Maryland Association of blind students event, however everyone is invited that is a student.

Dear students,
This Tuesday August 25th we will be hosting our last weekly Maryland Student Division chill hour this summer.  Join us at 7 PM eastern  and invite your fellow blind students for a fun, Exciting, and competitive game of trivia. The icing on the cake is that you  Will have a  chance to win either in iTunes or Amazon gift card for $50 if you come in first place, $35 if you come in second place, or $15 if you come in third place!   This event is open to all blind students, because we believe in bringing our community together.    no registration required. However if you plan to attend please drop a like and comment  your favorite type  of trivia or trivia category. We want this to be the biggest and funnest chill night so we can end the summer off with a bang! So be there or be square.  The link to join is

https://zoom.us/j/97407010843
Also a special thanks to Tiffany one of our Maryland students for co writing this post!




“The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“

From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 14:53:06 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 10:53:06 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Act Now to Win Big: NABS Fantasy Football
References: <DM6PR08MB399406B68316AD7C18F74527C3590@DM6PR08MB3994.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1D758B05-3A31-48C9-8799-283804DBAE38@gmail.com>

Good Morning NABS Fam
>  
> 
> I hope this message finds you all well. The registration deadline for the 2020 NABS Fantasy Football League is swiftly approaching and I hope that a brave soul from our division will, or knows someone that will, take this year’s prize of $100 and instant glory. Below is a reiteration of the NABS annual fantasy football fundraiser. Remember, there is a contest for the NFB member that brings in the most external players for the game. So, if you are not a fantasy football or sports enthusiast, you can still win a gift card for $25 for convincing your friends and family to join in on the fun.
> 
>  
> 
> What is Fantasy Football?
> 
> Fantasy football is a game where participants (you) create fantasy NFL teams comprised of different players, positions,  and teams to  compete against each other throughout the regular season, using an online platform to track and calculate points. Once your teams are created, each week you compete against another team owner in your league. After a game, the points are totaled, and owners and their teams move up or down in the standings. At the end of the season, the owners/teams with enough points are qualified to compete in the playoffs and, eventually, the championship.
> 
>  
> 
> What’s the buy-in?
> 
> As the fundraising initiative has done in past years, there is a $25 buy-in value for each owner that wants to participate in the league. This amount must be provided to your league commissioner prior to your drafting of team players and the season kickoff or draft. With kickoff swiftly approaching, the deadline for a team owner to register for the fantasy football league with a commissioner  is Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12pm EST. This is a firm deadline to give commissioners and team owners time to get organized before the kick-off the following week.
> 
>  
> 
> What’s the payout?
> 
> If you are victorious in your respective league, your reward payout will be $100! That’s 100 reasons why you should support NABS by participating, supporting, or spreading the word of this exciting opportunity. It’s an excellent way to connect with your fellow students and many others in some friendly competition.
> 
>  
> 
> How do I sign up for a league?
> 
> In order to partake in this exciting opportunity, a potential team owner (you) must contact a league commissioner and express interest in registering as soon as possible. Keep in mind, there will be no  guarantee that you are a registered team owner until you send your $25 payment to your commissioner and the NABS treasurer verifies the payment. NABS can accept a variety of payment options, which can be accessed by contacting the commissioner you are registering with.
> 
>  
> 
> Who are Commissioners?
> 
> There are four  concurrent leagues running this year for the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative. To register as a team owner, we invite you to contact one of the commissioners as soon as possible to claim your spot. We have listed assigned regions for each league as a rule of thumb, but if you have preference for joining a different league, you are welcome to reach out to any of the following commissioners to sign up:
> 
>  
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Midwest Commissioner
> 
> codybeardslee at gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> Logan Stenzel, Southern Commissioner
> 
> stenzellogan at gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> Robert Parsons, Pacific Commissioner
> 
> Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu
> 
>  
> 
> Gerald Meredith, Atlantic Commissioner
> 
> Geraldmeredith1 at outlook.com
> 
>  
> 
> Not Sold Yet?
> 
> As a bonus incentive, NABS has received a generous donation from Mt. Zion Church, located in Michigan, in the form of a $25 uber gift card. This prize will be awarded to the member that brings in the most external participants for this initiative. An external participant is defined as any team owner who is not an NFB member that successfully pays the buy-in amount and actively plays in the league. This can include your family, friends, coworkers, and associates. We look forward to having the most dynamic league yet.
> 
>  
> 
> Other Questions?
> 
> For more information about the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative and other fundraising questions, please contact Robert Parsons at Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu or a commissioner listed above. We look forward to connecting with all of you and continuing to make this tradition a fun and productive one for our division.
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Robert E. Parsons, Jr.
> 
> Chair| Fundraising Committee
> 
> Board Member| National Association of Blind Students
> 
> Vice President| Michigan Association of Blind Students
> 
> P: 804.801.7674

From maurice at maurice-amines.com  Sun Aug 23 18:50:50 2020
From: maurice at maurice-amines.com (maurice mines)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 11:50:50 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Act Now to Win Big: NABS Fantasy Football
In-Reply-To: <1D758B05-3A31-48C9-8799-283804DBAE38@gmail.com>
References: <DM6PR08MB399406B68316AD7C18F74527C3590@DM6PR08MB3994.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
 <1D758B05-3A31-48C9-8799-283804DBAE38@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2bf65b0-a54e-8b14-6120-9bfb21585959@maurice-amines.com>

I have a question, how are you going to base fantasy football when it is 
beginning to be quite apparent that there will be no football season. 
Just curious don't want to put my money into something that is going to 
be very difficult if not impossible to do. Did anyone check on this to 
make sure that there actually will be something to base the fantasy 
football on? Hope this helps and hope someone knows the answer?



On 8/23/2020 7:53 AM, Robert Parsons via NABS-L wrote:
> Good Morning NABS Fam
>>   
>>
>> I hope this message finds you all well. The registration deadline for the 2020 NABS Fantasy Football League is swiftly approaching and I hope that a brave soul from our division will, or knows someone that will, take this year’s prize of $100 and instant glory. Below is a reiteration of the NABS annual fantasy football fundraiser. Remember, there is a contest for the NFB member that brings in the most external players for the game. So, if you are not a fantasy football or sports enthusiast, you can still win a gift card for $25 for convincing your friends and family to join in on the fun.
>>
>>   
>>
>> What is Fantasy Football?
>>
>> Fantasy football is a game where participants (you) create fantasy NFL teams comprised of different players, positions,  and teams to  compete against each other throughout the regular season, using an online platform to track and calculate points. Once your teams are created, each week you compete against another team owner in your league. After a game, the points are totaled, and owners and their teams move up or down in the standings. At the end of the season, the owners/teams with enough points are qualified to compete in the playoffs and, eventually, the championship.
>>
>>   
>>
>> What’s the buy-in?
>>
>> As the fundraising initiative has done in past years, there is a $25 buy-in value for each owner that wants to participate in the league. This amount must be provided to your league commissioner prior to your drafting of team players and the season kickoff or draft. With kickoff swiftly approaching, the deadline for a team owner to register for the fantasy football league with a commissioner  is Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12pm EST. This is a firm deadline to give commissioners and team owners time to get organized before the kick-off the following week.
>>
>>   
>>
>> What’s the payout?
>>
>> If you are victorious in your respective league, your reward payout will be $100! That’s 100 reasons why you should support NABS by participating, supporting, or spreading the word of this exciting opportunity. It’s an excellent way to connect with your fellow students and many others in some friendly competition.
>>
>>   
>>
>> How do I sign up for a league?
>>
>> In order to partake in this exciting opportunity, a potential team owner (you) must contact a league commissioner and express interest in registering as soon as possible. Keep in mind, there will be no  guarantee that you are a registered team owner until you send your $25 payment to your commissioner and the NABS treasurer verifies the payment. NABS can accept a variety of payment options, which can be accessed by contacting the commissioner you are registering with.
>>
>>   
>>
>> Who are Commissioners?
>>
>> There are four  concurrent leagues running this year for the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative. To register as a team owner, we invite you to contact one of the commissioners as soon as possible to claim your spot. We have listed assigned regions for each league as a rule of thumb, but if you have preference for joining a different league, you are welcome to reach out to any of the following commissioners to sign up:
>>
>>   
>>
>> Cody Beardslee, Midwest Commissioner
>>
>> codybeardslee at gmail.com
>>
>>   
>>
>> Logan Stenzel, Southern Commissioner
>>
>> stenzellogan at gmail.com
>>
>>   
>>
>> Robert Parsons, Pacific Commissioner
>>
>> Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu
>>
>>   
>>
>> Gerald Meredith, Atlantic Commissioner
>>
>> Geraldmeredith1 at outlook.com
>>
>>   
>>
>> Not Sold Yet?
>>
>> As a bonus incentive, NABS has received a generous donation from Mt. Zion Church, located in Michigan, in the form of a $25 uber gift card. This prize will be awarded to the member that brings in the most external participants for this initiative. An external participant is defined as any team owner who is not an NFB member that successfully pays the buy-in amount and actively plays in the league. This can include your family, friends, coworkers, and associates. We look forward to having the most dynamic league yet.
>>
>>   
>>
>> Other Questions?
>>
>> For more information about the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative and other fundraising questions, please contact Robert Parsons at Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu or a commissioner listed above. We look forward to connecting with all of you and continuing to make this tradition a fun and productive one for our division.
>>
>>   
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>>   
>>
>> Robert E. Parsons, Jr.
>>
>> Chair| Fundraising Committee
>>
>> Board Member| National Association of Blind Students
>>
>> Vice President| Michigan Association of Blind Students
>>
>> P: 804.801.7674
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From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 18:59:38 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:59:38 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Act Now to Win Big: NABS Fantasy Football
Message-ID: <DA83B487-C5B0-4C55-BA4E-307A923860EA@gmail.com>

Good Afternoon Maurice 

Thank you for your inquiry. As we monitor the NFL's decisions on the season's rollout, the fundraising committee has developed options in the event that the season is cancelled prior to or after kickoff. If the season is cancelled anytime between now and  the eighth week in the season, refund options will be made available for all registrants. I hope this helps. 

Best 


Robert Parsons Jr.


> On Aug 23, 2020, at 2:52 PM, maurice mines via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 


From shanew at outlook.com  Sun Aug 23 21:26:40 2020
From: shanew at outlook.com (Shane Wegner)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:26:40 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited! Back to School with NABS: Navigating a
 New Era of Education Happening Tomorrow Sunday Aug 23 at 9 PM Eastern
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Hello all,



In case anyone needs it, just adding the telephone information for anyone who wishes to call in over the phone. Super excited to see everyone this evening!



Join Zoom Meeting

https://zoom.us/j/4678833687



Meeting ID: 467 883 3687

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Shane Wegner
Board Member | National Association of Blind Students<https://www.nabslink.org/>
A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind<https://www.nfb.org/>
Chairperson | NABS Diversity and Inclusion Committee

Interested in getting involved with student diversity and inclusion? E-mail me<mailto:shanew at outlook.com> or drop a meeting on my calendar<https://www.calendly.com/wegner612>.

Connect with me on LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/in/wegnerjd> or Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/shanew>.

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-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Nina Marranca via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:22 AM
To: David Andrews via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Nina Marranca <ninam0814 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited! Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New Era of Education Happening Tomorrow Sunday Aug 23 at 9 PM Eastern



Hey students!

We hope that you all are preparing for the transition back to school. NABS is here with our August membership call to make this transition much less painless, and maybe even a little fun.☺️

Join us tomorrow Sunday August 23 at 9 PM Eastern for Back to School with NABS: Navigating a New Era of Education. We will be covering everything from making the most of online classes, to traveling safely and according to social distancing, to staying focussed and fit, and so much more! We can't wait to start this school year right with you all!

Join Zoom Meeting:



https://zoom.us/my/blindstudents

Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions before the call.

All the Best,

Nina



Nina Marranca

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Chair | Outreach Committee

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From schoi09 at outlook.com  Sun Aug 23 23:48:38 2020
From: schoi09 at outlook.com (Seyoon Choi)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:48:38 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Calling All High School Students: You're Invited to
 The NABS Now Podcast, Read on for Details!
In-Reply-To: <75A3A05B-848C-4BF3-917D-A1D20A642BA6@outlook.com>
References: <75A3A05B-848C-4BF3-917D-A1D20A642BA6@outlook.com>
Message-ID: <10ED9F8C-FFE0-478C-8E4C-6BA14660AE02@outlook.com>

Hey NABSters,

I wanted to share an update deadline for podcast participation as well as to send a friendly reminder. Please note that all questions for students interested in participating in the upcoming NABS now podcast: All about college applications are now due September 5. The new deadline will allow the production and recording team to expedite production for October first launch. 

As a quick reminder, high school students interested in participating in the podcast can do so by submitting your questions as a Voice Memos recording or by emailing me directly.

Thanks
Seyoon

Seyoon Choi, he/him/his
President: Missouri Association of Blind Students
Co-chair | Outreach Committee
National Association of Blind Students
schoi09 at outlook.com
(314) 650-8306

> On Aug 19, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Seyoon Choi via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear NABS family,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well. The NABS outreach committee have been hard at work to launch our next major episode for the month of October. We are thrilled to give all of you a little sneak peek but we need your help. The episode will focus on applying to colleges and universities as a blind student at the undergraduate level. I have personally found this process to be slightly challenging in that there are not many resources that are specifically intended to answer many questions I had as a blind student. It is this reason why we invite all students applying for your first colleges and universities to join us at our October NABS now podcast. Students who are interested in participating may do so in one of the following ways. I anticipate this episode to be primarily question & answer or Q&A format. You may submit a voice recording of you with your questions to be featured on the podcast or by emailing me at: schoi09 at outlook.com<mailto:schoi09 at outlook.com> with your questions. Simply use the Voice Memos app to record a 10-15 second recording and send them to the email address above. We also invite current undergraduates and graduate students to join us as our guest speakers for the podcast to answer questions submitted by our students.
> 
> The deadline to submit all questions is September 15 by 11:59 PM.
> 
> We’re really excited to hopefully have many of you join us for what I anticipate to be one of our most jam-pact, vibrant episode this October, just in time for when many students begin applying.
> 
> Please reach out to outreach leadership if you have any questions, concerns and comments.
> 
> Elizabeth: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com<mailto:elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com>
> Nina: ninam0814 at gmail.com<mailto:ninam0814 at gmail.com>
> Seyoon: schoi09 at outlook.com<mailto:schoi09 at outlook.com>
> 
> Take care,
> Seyoon
> 
> Seyoon Choi, he/him/his
> President: Missouri Association of Blind Students
> Co-chair | Outreach Committee
> National Association of Blind Students
> schoi09 at outlook.com<mailto:schoi09 at outlook.com>
> (314) 650-8306
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From hunterkuester2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 24 00:47:32 2020
From: hunterkuester2 at gmail.com (Hunter Kuester)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 19:47:32 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] How to play NABS fantasy football call
Message-ID: <CAKY9rHEu9j5L1pDmkNxdhp1ZVxDA8=BteSeLPPhR8EYLBvQNbA@mail.gmail.com>

Calling all fantasy football participants or potential participants. Do you
not know anything about fantasy football but still want to get involved?
Don’t worry we have you covered. The National Association of Blind Students
is hosting a how to play fantasy football question and answer session along
with thorough directions so it can be fun for everyone. This event will be
on Wednesday August 26th At 8 PM Eastern 6 PM Pacific. We encourage all of
you to attend even if your a beginner or you are still on the fence. To
join us:







Join us tonight at 8 pm Eastern/8 pm Central using the following Zoom info!



Join Zoom Meeting



*https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 <https://zoom.us/j/4678833687>*







Meeting ID: 467 883 3687



One tap mobile



+13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)


Keep it classy,

Hunter Kuester

Co-Chair NABS fundraising committee


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Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
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Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 ext. 234
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Cell: (920)-285-8530
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LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!

From mauraloberg at gmail.com  Mon Aug 24 01:02:51 2020
From: mauraloberg at gmail.com (Maura Loberg)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:02:51 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] How to play NABS fantasy football call
In-Reply-To: <CAKY9rHEu9j5L1pDmkNxdhp1ZVxDA8=BteSeLPPhR8EYLBvQNbA@mail.gmail.com>
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I have a class at this time. Can someone explain to me separately how to do this? I want to play but I'm clueless. Thanks!

Maura J. Loberg
Nebraska Wesleyan University, class of 2024
President
| Nebraska Association of Blind Students


> On Aug 23, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Hunter Kuester via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Calling all fantasy football participants or potential participants. Do you
> not know anything about fantasy football but still want to get involved?
> Don’t worry we have you covered. The National Association of Blind Students
> is hosting a how to play fantasy football question and answer session along
> with thorough directions so it can be fun for everyone. This event will be
> on Wednesday August 26th At 8 PM Eastern 6 PM Pacific. We encourage all of
> you to attend even if your a beginner or you are still on the fence. To
> join us:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Join us tonight at 8 pm Eastern/8 pm Central using the following Zoom info!
> 
> 
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> 
> 
> 
> *https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 <https://zoom.us/j/4678833687>*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
> 
> 
> 
> One tap mobile
> 
> 
> 
> +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)
> 
> 
> Keep it classy,
> 
> Hunter Kuester
> 
> Co-Chair NABS fundraising committee
> 
> 
> -- 
> Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant
> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
> 100 East 22nd Street
> Minneapolis, MN  55404
> (612) 872-0100 ext. 234
> First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students
> Cell: (920)-285-8530
> hunterkuester2 at gmail.com
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 24 01:07:08 2020
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:07:08 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] How to play NABS fantasy football call
In-Reply-To: <CAKY9rHEu9j5L1pDmkNxdhp1ZVxDA8=BteSeLPPhR8EYLBvQNbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKY9rHEu9j5L1pDmkNxdhp1ZVxDA8=BteSeLPPhR8EYLBvQNbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <016f01d679b2$e3e4ca90$abae5fb0$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi,

Why is this football game/pool being allowed when policy from the national office is no online raffles or games requiring a purchase are allowed?
Bryan Schulz


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Hunter Kuester via NABS-L
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 7:48 PM
To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Hunter Kuester <hunterkuester2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] How to play NABS fantasy football call

Calling all fantasy football participants or potential participants. Do you not know anything about fantasy football but still want to get involved?
Don’t worry we have you covered. The National Association of Blind Students is hosting a how to play fantasy football question and answer session along with thorough directions so it can be fun for everyone. This event will be on Wednesday August 26th At 8 PM Eastern 6 PM Pacific. We encourage all of you to attend even if your a beginner or you are still on the fence. To join us:







Join us tonight at 8 pm Eastern/8 pm Central using the following Zoom info!



Join Zoom Meeting



*https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 <https://zoom.us/j/4678833687>*







Meeting ID: 467 883 3687



One tap mobile



+13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)


Keep it classy,

Hunter Kuester

Co-Chair NABS fundraising committee


--
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Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 ext. 234
First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students
Cell: (920)-285-8530
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From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 24 01:37:55 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:37:55 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] How to play NABS fantasy football call
In-Reply-To: <016f01d679b2$e3e4ca90$abae5fb0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <016f01d679b2$e3e4ca90$abae5fb0$@sbcglobal.net>
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Good Evening Bryan 

I hope you are well. First, I'd like to thank you for your interest in this fundraising endeavor. Since the inception of the Code of Conduct of the National Federation of the Blind, NABS is diligent in remaining in step with Federation philosophy and principle. According to articles IV and V of the Code, Federation officers, representatives, and members are discouraged from enacting in activities that are malfeasant to the overall direction, messaging, and philosophy of the organization.  an extensive list of examples of possible conflicts of interests are included on that document. 

 You can find it at  https://www.nfb.org/about-us/history-and-governance/code-conduct  
To answer your question a little more directly, we take guidance from the national office on our programming and this event, being an annual staple of the division, has been continually supported by the national office and the greater organization in the past. In July, fundraising events and pools, much like this event, were in full attendance at our virtual national convention because in this social and health-related climate, online platforms are a way to accomplish things that we could also do in person. I hope this helps you with this matter 

Thanks 


Robert Parsons Jr.


> On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:08 PM, Bryan Schulz via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Why is this football game/pool being allowed when policy from the national office is no online raffles or games requiring a purchase are allowed?
> Bryan Schulz
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Hunter Kuester via NABS-L
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 7:48 PM
> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Hunter Kuester <hunterkuester2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NABS-L] How to play NABS fantasy football call
> 
> Calling all fantasy football participants or potential participants. Do you not know anything about fantasy football but still want to get involved?
> Don’t worry we have you covered. The National Association of Blind Students is hosting a how to play fantasy football question and answer session along with thorough directions so it can be fun for everyone. This event will be on Wednesday August 26th At 8 PM Eastern 6 PM Pacific. We encourage all of you to attend even if your a beginner or you are still on the fence. To join us:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Join us tonight at 8 pm Eastern/8 pm Central using the following Zoom info!
> 
> 
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> 
> 
> 
> *https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 <https://zoom.us/j/4678833687>*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Meeting ID: 467 883 3687
> 
> 
> 
> One tap mobile
> 
> 
> 
> +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown)
> 
> 
> Keep it classy,
> 
> Hunter Kuester
> 
> Co-Chair NABS fundraising committee
> 
> 
> --
> Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant
> Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
> 100 East 22nd Street
> Minneapolis, MN  55404
> (612) 872-0100 ext. 234
> First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students
> Cell: (920)-285-8530
> hunterkuester2 at gmail.com
> LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT!
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From martinbecerramiranda at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 24 16:19:52 2020
From: martinbecerramiranda at yahoo.com (Martin Becerra-Miranda)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 10:19:52 -0600
Subject: [NABS-L] Football is coming!!!
References: <CY4PR1701MB182934421E62FDEE185F7552A4560@CY4PR1701MB1829.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <3EE2243C-5A64-4EB0-8E99-86EC073BACAE@yahoo.com>

Hi all,
We’re nearing the end of August, and you know what that means? FOOTBALL IS COMING!!!

Both the National Association of Blind Students and the Colorado Association of Blind Students are putting on fundraisers during the season which is set to kick off on Thursday, September 10.

 

NABS is hosting several Fantasy Football Leagues.

What is Fantasy Football?

Fantasy football is a game where participants (you) create fantasy NFL teams comprised of different players, positions, and teams to compete against each other throughout the regular season, using an online platform to track and calculate points. Once your teams are created, each week you compete against another team owner in your league. After a game, the points are totaled, and owners and their teams move up or down in the standings. At the end of the season, the owners/teams with enough points are qualified to compete in the playoffs and, eventually, the championship.

What’s the buy-in?

As the fundraising initiative has done in past years, there is a $25 buy-in value for each owner that wants to participate in the league. This amount must be provided to your league commissioner prior to your drafting of team players and the season kickoff or draft. With kickoff swiftly approaching, the deadline for a team owner to register for the fantasy football league with a commissioner is Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12pm EST. This is a firm deadline to give commissioners and team owners time to get organized before the kick-off the following week.

What’s the payout?

If you are victorious in your respective league, your reward payout will be $100! That’s 100 reasons why you should support NABS by participating, supporting, or spreading the word of this exciting opportunity. It’s an excellent way to connect with your fellow students and many others in some friendly competition.

How do I sign up for a league?

In order to partake in this exciting opportunity, a potential team owner (you) must contact a league commissioner and express interest in registering as soon as possible. Keep in mind, there will be no guarantee that you are a registered team owner until you send your $25 payment to your commissioner and the NABS treasurer verifies the payment. NABS can accept a variety of payment options, which can be accessed by contacting the commissioner you are registering with.

Who are Commissioners?

There are four concurrent leagues running this year for the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative. To register as a team owner, we invite you to contact one of the commissioners as soon as possible to claim your spot. We have listed assigned regions for each league as a rule of thumb, but if you have preference for joining a different league, you are welcome to reach out to any of the following commissioners to sign up:

Cody Beardslee, Midwest Commissioner. codybeardslee at gmail.com

Logan Stenzel, Southern Commissioner. stenzellogan at gmail.com

Robert Parsons, Pacific Commissioner. Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu

Gerald Meredith, Atlantic Commissioner. Geraldmeredith1 at outlook.com

 

CABS is hosting a Football Pool.

What is a football pool?

A football pool is an fundraiser in which participants pick the winner of one game per week.

The rules this year will be pretty much the same with one single caveat.  With each winner that you choose each week, you will also need to give a total combined score for the game you’ve chosen.  That score will come into play should the NFL have to call it a day and end the season early.  The goal is to get the closest to the combined score of the game you pick. Points are given for the difference between the pick and the actual total points scored. The winner will be the person with the lowest combined points at the conclusion of the season.

What is the buy-in?

Cost is $20 to join

Methods for making payment are:

·         Mailing a check made out to Colorado Association of Blind Students to Lisa Bonderson, LaBarre Law Offices, P.C., 1660 S. Albion, Suite 918, Denver, CO 80222.

·         Cash in person to any CABS board member, Lisa Bonderson or Karen Rogers.

·         Venmo.  To pay search for username corozco31 or email carina_claret at hotmail.com

What are the rules?

Payment must be received no later than 6pm on September 10, 2020 or you will be unable to participate.

Select one NFL team per week to win their game and give a total final game score with each pick

You can only pick the same team once during the regular season

If your team doesn’t win their game you will get a strike.

Two strikes and you’re out.

Ties count as strikes (you are picking the winner).

If there is still more than one person remaining at the end of the regular season (Week 17), the remaining participants will continue making picks throughout the playoffs.

During the playoffs you may select any team regardless of whether you selected them in the regular season.

You may also select the same team more than once during the playoffs.

Strikes accumulated during the regular season carryover in to the playoffs.

Picks should be emailed to Martin Becerra-Miranda at mbecerra at cocenter.org

Picks must be submitted by the earlier of the team you are picking for said week’s game or 11:00 A.M. mountain time on Sunday.

If your pick is not submitted by this time you will get a strike.

If you pick the same team more than once you will also get a strike.

I will email out picks after 11:00 A.M. on Sunday morning so you know who to root for and against.

I will send a reminder email to submit your picks each Wednesday.

What is the prize Pool Distribution?

50% goes to the Colorado Association of Blind Students

Winner takes 35%

2nd place takes 15%

The winner will be determined by the last person standing.

If there are multiple people at the end of the season/Super Bowl. The person with the fewest amount of strikes is the winner.

If the last people standing get their second strike in the same week or the last people standing have the same amount of strikes at the conclusion of the Super Bowl, the prize pool will be split accordingly.

Should the NFL be unable to finish the season, a winner will be determined by using the scores that were given each week. The winner will be the person with the lowest combined points at the conclusion of the season.

 

If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know.

 

 

My best,

Martin Becerra-Miranda, NOMC

From dsykora29 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 15:40:54 2020
From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:40:54 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Marking assignments as done in canvas
Message-ID: <FF942CDE-8211-4DE9-8ECB-B231533D83A8@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone has encountered modules or assignments on canvas that must be marked as done before moving onto  the next module.  this requires activating a “mark as done” button within the assignment. I don’t seem to be able to press this button with either the space bar or enter key using jaws and Google chrome. I was just curious if anyone had encountered this problem, and if there is a way to mark and assignment as done using jaws?
Thank you in advance for your help,
Danielle 

Sent from my iPhone

From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 20:13:53 2020
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas Vasiliauskas)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:13:53 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Marking assignments as done in canvas
In-Reply-To: <FF942CDE-8211-4DE9-8ECB-B231533D83A8@gmail.com>
References: <FF942CDE-8211-4DE9-8ECB-B231533D83A8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6D49ACA6-A531-454A-87E8-B6D75FE68603@gmail.com>

Hi Danielle, 
I'll be following this discussion. I have not had to mark assignments as "done" as of yet on Canvas, because so far I have submitted to some of the discussion forums and filled out a quiz. I'm sure this could come up for myself and others as well, though, so I look forward to what other Canvas users have to say. 
Vejas 

> On Aug 25, 2020, at 08:51, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I was wondering if anyone has encountered modules or assignments on canvas that must be marked as done before moving onto  the next module.  this requires activating a “mark as done” button within the assignment. I don’t seem to be able to press this button with either the space bar or enter key using jaws and Google chrome. I was just curious if anyone had encountered this problem, and if there is a way to mark and assignment as done using jaws?
> Thank you in advance for your help,
> Danielle 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From ctate2076 at att.net  Tue Aug 25 20:21:01 2020
From: ctate2076 at att.net (ctate2076 at att.net)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 16:21:01 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Marking assignments as done in canvas
In-Reply-To: <6D49ACA6-A531-454A-87E8-B6D75FE68603@gmail.com>
References: <FF942CDE-8211-4DE9-8ECB-B231533D83A8@gmail.com>
 <6D49ACA6-A531-454A-87E8-B6D75FE68603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04a701d67b1d$4118f130$c34ad390$@att.net>

Danielle: 

I have used Canvas for about two years and have never had to mark an assignment as done. I am curious, as I am now in a B.A. program at a different university and this may come up. 

I do have a question, however. Are you running the most current version of whatever screen reader software you use? Not sure if this would play a part in your question, just curious. 

Camille 

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 4:14 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Marking assignments as done in canvas

Hi Danielle, 
I'll be following this discussion. I have not had to mark assignments as "done" as of yet on Canvas, because so far I have submitted to some of the discussion forums and filled out a quiz. I'm sure this could come up for myself and others as well, though, so I look forward to what other Canvas users have to say. 
Vejas 

> On Aug 25, 2020, at 08:51, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I was wondering if anyone has encountered modules or assignments on canvas that must be marked as done before moving onto  the next module.  this requires activating a “mark as done” button within the assignment. I don’t seem to be able to press this button with either the space bar or enter key using jaws and Google chrome. I was just curious if anyone had encountered this problem, and if there is a way to mark and assignment as done using jaws?
> Thank you in advance for your help,
> Danielle 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
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From cookcafe at sc.rr.com  Wed Aug 26 01:44:29 2020
From: cookcafe at sc.rr.com (Steve & Shannon Cook)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:44:29 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] August 31 Open Meeting for Review of Virtual State
 Convention
Message-ID: <002001d67b4a$7098d970$51ca8c50$@sc.rr.com>

 

From: Steve & Shannon Cook <cookcafe at sc.rr.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:42 PM
To: 'NFB of South Carolina Mailing List' <nfbofsc at nfbnet.org>
Subject: August 31 Open Meeting for Review of Virtual State Convention 

 

Hello Federation Family,

 

The Computer Science and Technology Division of the National Federation of
the Blind of SC will hold an open meeting to assess the procedures and
systems used to host our first virtual state convention during the weekend
of August 21-23, 2020.  

 

The call will be held via Zoom on Monday, August 31, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.  EST

 


Instructions to Join on Zoom 


 

https://zoom.us/j/8032543777 Meeting ID: 803 254 3777 

              If you use a smart phone to call, just click the link below
and it will dial in for you:

+19292056099,,8032543777#

              Or, you can dial in from your land line:

929 205 6099

Meeting Id  803 254 3777

 


Instructions for listening on an Echo device


 

Say  "Alexa: call 929 205 6099".

You will then hear "welcome to Zoom. ".

Then enter the Meeting ID when prompted, then say "Alexa: Press 803 254
3777pound".

Then say "Alexa Press pound" to enter the meeting.

"Alexa: Press *6" to mute and unmute.

"Alexa: Press *9" to raise and lower hand.

 

 

 

Shannon Cook

Secretary  of The Computer Science and Technology Division 

NFB of SC


From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 15:03:08 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:03:08 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Reserve Your Spot in Time: NABS Fantasy Football
Message-ID: <B8AB6221-ADE2-46E2-B213-14AF908F337B@gmail.com>

Good Morning Federation Family
> 
>  
> 
> We are getting evermore close to the beginning of the 2020 NABS Fantasy Football initiative. With kickoff being September 10, we want to assure that all football lovers and blind student supporters are on deck to enjoy the fun and have a shot at winning some money or a gift card. Aside from the below information being reiterated for those who are interested in registering, I want to also take some time to address people that are on the fence for whether or not this NABS tradition is worth the investment:
> 
> The NABS fundraising committee worked with our leadership on creating a contingency plan that accounts for whether the season will or will not be cancelled, with our participants being provided an option that best fits them in the case that cancellation occurs early in the season.
> At the moment, our commissioners have been phenomenal with recruitment, meaning that it is likely that the leagues will be full before the payment deadline of September 4, so please contact a commissioner listed below as soon as possible if you have interest in participating.

>  Our committee will be holding a call this evening at 8pm EST to cover the rules of fantasy football and the way the platform we are using functions. Be sure to check it out, especially if you have registered and paid already. The meeting will take place via the NABS Zoom. For the credentials or link to the Zoom room, please contact me at Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu or another NABS officer.
> We are still accepting interested players at the moment and encourage anyone to reach out to a commissioner or a NABS board member to be pointed to the league that you should register with.
>  
> 
> What is Fantasy Football?
> 
> Fantasy football is a game where participants (you) create fantasy NFL teams comprised of different players, positions,  and teams to  compete against each other throughout the regular season, using an online platform to track and calculate points. Once your teams are created, each week you compete against another team owner in your league. After a game, the points are totaled, and owners and their teams move up or down in the standings. At the end of the season, the owners/teams with enough points are qualified to compete in the playoffs and, eventually, the championship.
> 
>  
> 
> What’s the buy-in?
> 
> As the fundraising initiative has done in past years, there is a $25 buy-in value for each owner that wants to participate in the league. This amount must be provided to your league commissioner prior to your drafting of team players and the season kickoff or draft. With kickoff swiftly approaching, the deadline for a team owner to register for the fantasy football league with a commissioner  is Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12pm EST. This is a firm deadline to give commissioners and team owners time to get organized before the kick-off the following week.
> 
>  
> 
> What’s the payout?
> 
> If you are victorious in your respective league, your reward payout will be $100! That’s 100 reasons why you should support NABS by participating, supporting, or spreading the word of this exciting opportunity. It’s an excellent way to connect with your fellow students and many others in some friendly competition.
> 
>  
> 
> How do I sign up for a league?
> 
> In order to partake in this exciting opportunity, a potential team owner (you) must contact a league commissioner and express interest in registering as soon as possible. Keep in mind, there will be no  guarantee that you are a registered team owner until you send your $25 payment to your commissioner and the NABS treasurer verifies the payment. NABS can accept a variety of payment options, which can be accessed by contacting the commissioner you are registering with.
> 
>  
> 
> Who are Commissioners?
> 
> There are four  concurrent leagues running this year for the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative. To register as a team owner, we invite you to contact one of the commissioners as soon as possible to claim your spot. We have listed assigned regions for each league as a rule of thumb, but if you have preference for joining a different league, you are welcome to reach out to any of the following commissioners to sign up:
> 
>  
> 
> Cody Beardslee, Midwest Commissioner
> 
> codybeardslee at gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> Logan Stenzel, Southern Commissioner
> 
> stenzellogan at gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> Robert Parsons, Pacific Commissioner
> 
> Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu
> 
>  
> 
> Gerald Meredith, Atlantic Commissioner
> 
> Geraldmeredith1 at outlook.com
> 
>  
> 
> Not Sold Yet?
> 
> As a bonus incentive, NABS has received a generous donation from Mt. Zion Church, located in Michigan, in the form of a $25 uber gift card. This prize will be awarded to the member that brings in the most external participants for this initiative. An external participant is defined as any team owner who is not an NFB member that successfully pays the buy-in amount and actively plays in the league. This can include your family, friends, coworkers, and associates. We look forward to having the most dynamic league yet.
> 
>  
> 
> Other Questions?
> 
> For more information about the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative and other fundraising questions, please contact Robert Parsons at Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu or a commissioner listed above. We look forward to connecting with all of you and continuing to make this tradition a fun and productive one for our division.
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Robert E. Parsons, Jr.
> 
> President| Kalamazoo Chapter
> 
> Vice President| Michigan Association of Blind Students
> 
> Board Member| National Federation of the Blind of Michigan
> 
> Board Member| National Association of Blind Students
> 
> P: 804.801.7674

From keribcu at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 21:19:15 2020
From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:19:15 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] looking for people who have taken advanced level stats
Message-ID: <e7e7ad32-86b0-6947-df35-7dff0459b01c@gmail.com>

Hi all,


I want to talk to some people who have taken graduate level stats. 
Please write me off list at

keribcu at gmail.com

-- 
Keri Svendsen



From nalbantatakan11 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 28 14:28:36 2020
From: nalbantatakan11 at gmail.com (Atakan Nalbant)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:28:36 +0300
Subject: [NABS-L] WeWALK Blind Friendly Navigation App
Message-ID: <CAGzcxLhJQoTDksNrjGLbnktLYu9v+MF4Ed02L67UcgR6guyoMA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I’m reaching out because I would like to share information about our
free WeWALK mobile application, which is available for immediate
download on both iOS and Android devices. WeWALK is the all-in-one
platform to get you from one place to another and to explore the world
around you, designed for and by the visually impaired. Get guided
navigation, find out about nearby points of interest, and access
public transportation. With multiple exciting features that work in
harmony with one another, think of WeWALK as the Swiss Army Knife of
visually impaired travel apps.

Download Link:
https://bit.ly/2G6brVI

A. Navigation

You no longer have to use multiple navigation apps to get to your
destination. WeWALK offers multiple features to simplify your
navigation experience including clock directions, low vision friendly
maps, and detailed guided instruction for the visually impaired.

To get turn-by-turn navigation, just search for a location or address
and with a simple touch of a button, you’ll be on your way to your
destination. The WeWALK app allows you to focus your attention on the
road without constantly having to check your phone to find out if
you’re going in the correct direction.

B. What’s Around Me?

There have probably been instances when you were walking down the
street and wondered about all the places that you’ve been passing by.

Wonder no more with WeWALK’s new Location Discovery mode, which
announces nearby points of interests as you’re walking along.

You can also explore what’s around you without moving at all. Use the
"What's around me?" feature in the menu options to view a list of
nearby points of interest around you such as restaurants, shops,
entertainment, and more.

C. Public Transport

WeWALK helps you freely explore with its public transport service
that’s available in more than 1500 cities across the world.

Use the app to learn about nearby public transport stops and timetables.

D. Accessible Interface

The WeWALK interface is designed to be fully compatible with screen
readers. In addition, the screens have been optimized for people with
low vision through adjustable color options and text sizes.

E. Connection with WeWALK Smart Cane

We understand that walking while managing a white cane in one hand and
a phone in the other can be quite challenging.

Challenge accepted! The WeWALK app connects with the WeWALK smart
cane, allowing you to conveniently control various operations such as
navigation via the smart cane. This enables you to use the WeWALK
app’s features with the convenience of being able to leave your phone
in your pocket. In addition, we offer a more precise navigation
experience thanks to the WeWALK smart cane’s built-in sensors.

Last but certainly not least, the smart cane has a useful obstacle
detection feature that can assist you with identifying upcoming
obstacles at head level, providing a safer walking experience.

Note: You can use these features on the WeWALK app without the WeWALK
smart cane. However, with the WeWALK smart cane, you’ll be able to
experience more precise guidance and the benefits of obstacle
detection.

We hope you’ll consider trying our app; we’ve received a lot of
positive feedback from the WeWALK user community and would love to
hear your thoughts after you’ve had a chance to try it out. Let’s
WeWALK and explore together.


From cookcafe at sc.rr.com  Sat Aug 29 10:24:18 2020
From: cookcafe at sc.rr.com (Steve & Shannon Cook)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 06:24:18 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] WeWALK Blind Friendly Navigation App
In-Reply-To: <CAGzcxLhJQoTDksNrjGLbnktLYu9v+MF4Ed02L67UcgR6guyoMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGzcxLhJQoTDksNrjGLbnktLYu9v+MF4Ed02L67UcgR6guyoMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002401d67dee$8e54d120$aafe7360$@sc.rr.com>

Thanks for sharing, I will have to give the app a test walk!

Steve Cook
District 2 State Board Member of the National Federation of the Blind of SC
1st Vice President of the Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC
Board member at large of the Columbia chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of SC
The National Federation of the Blind of SC owns and operates Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center.  Below is a link to read more about Rocky Bottom and to make a reservation for a mountain retreat!
Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center
Please join the National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book at any of the below links!
National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book
Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC
Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center 
South Carolina Association of Blind Students
South Carolina Parents of Blind Children

Your old car keys can be keys to literacy for the blind.
Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking 
www.carshelpingtheblind.org 
or call 855 659 9314


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Atakan Nalbant via NABS-L
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:29 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Atakan Nalbant <nalbantatakan11 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NABS-L] WeWALK Blind Friendly Navigation App

Hello,

I’m reaching out because I would like to share information about our free WeWALK mobile application, which is available for immediate download on both iOS and Android devices. WeWALK is the all-in-one platform to get you from one place to another and to explore the world around you, designed for and by the visually impaired. Get guided navigation, find out about nearby points of interest, and access public transportation. With multiple exciting features that work in harmony with one another, think of WeWALK as the Swiss Army Knife of visually impaired travel apps.

Download Link:
https://bit.ly/2G6brVI

A. Navigation

You no longer have to use multiple navigation apps to get to your destination. WeWALK offers multiple features to simplify your navigation experience including clock directions, low vision friendly maps, and detailed guided instruction for the visually impaired.

To get turn-by-turn navigation, just search for a location or address and with a simple touch of a button, you’ll be on your way to your destination. The WeWALK app allows you to focus your attention on the road without constantly having to check your phone to find out if you’re going in the correct direction.

B. What’s Around Me?

There have probably been instances when you were walking down the street and wondered about all the places that you’ve been passing by.

Wonder no more with WeWALK’s new Location Discovery mode, which announces nearby points of interests as you’re walking along.

You can also explore what’s around you without moving at all. Use the "What's around me?" feature in the menu options to view a list of nearby points of interest around you such as restaurants, shops, entertainment, and more.

C. Public Transport

WeWALK helps you freely explore with its public transport service that’s available in more than 1500 cities across the world.

Use the app to learn about nearby public transport stops and timetables.

D. Accessible Interface

The WeWALK interface is designed to be fully compatible with screen readers. In addition, the screens have been optimized for people with low vision through adjustable color options and text sizes.

E. Connection with WeWALK Smart Cane

We understand that walking while managing a white cane in one hand and a phone in the other can be quite challenging.

Challenge accepted! The WeWALK app connects with the WeWALK smart cane, allowing you to conveniently control various operations such as navigation via the smart cane. This enables you to use the WeWALK app’s features with the convenience of being able to leave your phone in your pocket. In addition, we offer a more precise navigation experience thanks to the WeWALK smart cane’s built-in sensors.

Last but certainly not least, the smart cane has a useful obstacle detection feature that can assist you with identifying upcoming obstacles at head level, providing a safer walking experience.

Note: You can use these features on the WeWALK app without the WeWALK smart cane. However, with the WeWALK smart cane, you’ll be able to experience more precise guidance and the benefits of obstacle detection.

We hope you’ll consider trying our app; we’ve received a lot of positive feedback from the WeWALK user community and would love to hear your thoughts after you’ve had a chance to try it out. Let’s WeWALK and explore together.

_______________________________________________
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To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:
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From dsykora29 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 29 15:38:32 2020
From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:38:32 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessibility of office and Google Docs with voiceover
Message-ID: <9258B0C0-C4E9-4034-BA8C-2056073C99E5@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,
I am wondering if anyone can tell me if voiceover is compatible with Microsoft office? Also, has anyone used Google docs with voiceover, and what was your experience?
i’ve been using jaws for the past 10+ years. However,  I’ve recently gotten a new computer, and I don’t like windows 10 at all. It’s been very glitchy, and I’m considering returning it and getting a Mac.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Danielle 

Sent from my iPhone

From maurice at maurice-amines.com  Sat Aug 29 16:46:57 2020
From: maurice at maurice-amines.com (maurice-amines.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:46:57 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessibility of office and Google Docs with voiceover
In-Reply-To: <9258B0C0-C4E9-4034-BA8C-2056073C99E5@gmail.com>
References: <9258B0C0-C4E9-4034-BA8C-2056073C99E5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <189FE2F0-E45F-4C2A-ADFD-ABFF281324E0@maurice-amines.com>

Yes office for the Mac works with voice over no problem.

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I am wondering if anyone can tell me if voiceover is compatible with Microsoft office? Also, has anyone used Google docs with voiceover, and what was your experience?
> i’ve been using jaws for the past 10+ years. However,  I’ve recently gotten a new computer, and I don’t like windows 10 at all. It’s been very glitchy, and I’m considering returning it and getting a Mac.
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Danielle 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From gtuuao at hawaii.edu  Sat Aug 29 17:11:33 2020
From: gtuuao at hawaii.edu (Gloria Tuuao)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 07:11:33 -1000
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessibility of office and Google Docs with voiceover
In-Reply-To: <189FE2F0-E45F-4C2A-ADFD-ABFF281324E0@maurice-amines.com>
References: <189FE2F0-E45F-4C2A-ADFD-ABFF281324E0@maurice-amines.com>
Message-ID: <CDC0832C-50B9-494D-8643-73C449A5502F@hawaii.edu>

I’ve been using Google drive and For about four years now since I’ve been in college. Voiceover is compatible with Google docs and Google Drive as well as Google sheets. I’ve just been accessing all of this on an iPad or an iPhone. But I wouldn’t know if there would be a different using voice over on a Mac. I would think that it would be the same compatibility except you would use different keystrokes. At least that’s what I’m guessing. Hope this helps.

Sincerely,
Gloria Tuuao 
HiABS Rep 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:48 AM, maurice-amines.com via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes office for the Mac works with voice over no problem.
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am wondering if anyone can tell me if voiceover is compatible with Microsoft office? Also, has anyone used Google docs with voiceover, and what was your experience?
>> i’ve been using jaws for the past 10+ years. However,  I’ve recently gotten a new computer, and I don’t like windows 10 at all. It’s been very glitchy, and I’m considering returning it and getting a Mac.
>> Thanks in advance for your help,
>> Danielle 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From gene.sh.kim at gmail.com  Sat Aug 29 18:37:11 2020
From: gene.sh.kim at gmail.com (Gene Kim)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:37:11 -0700
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessibility of office and Google Docs with voiceover
In-Reply-To: <CDC0832C-50B9-494D-8643-73C449A5502F@hawaii.edu>
References: <189FE2F0-E45F-4C2A-ADFD-ABFF281324E0@maurice-amines.com>
 <CDC0832C-50B9-494D-8643-73C449A5502F@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <CAEvYTGNXw4Ph-H2+c8mFFQJvKyt1xzhuDMr2ukaJutNMUz2U3A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Danielle,

I personally haven't used this resource and can't guarantee it's what
you're looking for (I use JAWS), but this Google Drive essentials for Apple
Voice Over users from Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired may
help:

https://www.tsbvi.edu/google-drive-voiceover

Best of luck with navigating these new tools!

Kindly,
Gene


On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 10:12 AM Gloria Tuuao via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> I’ve been using Google drive and For about four years now since I’ve been
> in college. Voiceover is compatible with Google docs and Google Drive as
> well as Google sheets. I’ve just been accessing all of this on an iPad or
> an iPhone. But I wouldn’t know if there would be a different using voice
> over on a Mac. I would think that it would be the same compatibility except
> you would use different keystrokes. At least that’s what I’m guessing. Hope
> this helps.
>
> Sincerely,
> Gloria Tuuao
> HiABS Rep
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:48 AM, maurice-amines.com via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Yes office for the Mac works with voice over no problem.
> >
> >> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Danielle Sykora via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >> I am wondering if anyone can tell me if voiceover is compatible with
> Microsoft office? Also, has anyone used Google docs with voiceover, and
> what was your experience?
> >> i’ve been using jaws for the past 10+ years. However,  I’ve recently
> gotten a new computer, and I don’t like windows 10 at all. It’s been very
> glitchy, and I’m considering returning it and getting a Mac.
> >> Thanks in advance for your help,
> >> Danielle
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NABS-L mailing list
> >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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> NABS-L:
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> >
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From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 13:13:22 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:13:22 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Secure Your Spot: NABS Fantasy Football
References: <DM6PR08MB399457F3DDDDA4D2D1604F8DC3500@DM6PR08MB3994.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <53CD2CEC-AC9A-43E8-B970-E646C7032216@gmail.com>

Good Morning Federation Family
>  
> We are five days from the deadline for our annual fantasy football registration period! There is so much enthusiasm amongst members and I am happy to inform you all that NABS has broken a record on external participants this year. We also have broken our personal records for the youngest and oldest participants to join the activities. For that reason, I write to appeal to the students and members that are still on the fence about joining in on the fun. As a person that has never played fantasy football  before, I too had my hesitations on taking part in this popular program. However, I promise you that learning how to connect to people by stepping outside of your comfort zone is such an important step in broadening your horizons and networking with people within your league. Every step of the way, we at NABS will be there to support you and make the experience memorable. The information about the initiative is below:
> What is Fantasy Football?
> Fantasy football is a game where participants (you) create fantasy NFL teams comprised of different players, positions,  and teams to  compete against each other throughout the regular season, using an online platform to track and calculate points. Once your teams are created, each week you compete against another team owner in your league. After a game, the points are totaled, and owners and their teams move up or down in the standings. At the end of the season, the owners/teams with enough points are qualified to compete in the playoffs and, eventually, the championship.
>  
> What’s the buy-in?
> As the fundraising initiative has done in past years, there is a $25 buy-in value for each owner that wants to participate in the league. This amount must be provided to your league commissioner prior to your drafting of team players and the season kickoff or draft. With kickoff swiftly approaching, the deadline for a team owner to register for the fantasy football league with a commissioner  is Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12pm EST. This is a firm deadline to give commissioners and team owners time to get organized before the kick-off the following week. 
>  
> What’s the payout?
> If you are victorious in your respective league, your reward payout will be $100! That’s 100 reasons why you should support NABS by participating, supporting, or spreading the word of this exciting opportunity. It’s an excellent way to connect with your fellow students and many others in some friendly competition.
>  
> How do I sign up for a league?
> In order to partake in this exciting opportunity, a potential team owner (you) must contact a league commissioner and express interest in registering as soon as possible. Keep in mind, there will be no  guarantee that you are a registered team owner until you send your $25 payment to your commissioner and the NABS treasurer verifies the payment. NABS can accept a variety of payment options, which can be accessed by contacting the commissioner you are registering with.
>  
> Who are Commissioners?
> There are four  concurrent leagues running this year for the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative. To register as a team owner, we invite you to contact one of the commissioners as soon as possible to claim your spot. We have listed assigned regions for each league as a rule of thumb, but if you have preference for joining a different league, you are welcome to reach out to any of the following commissioners to sign up:
>  
> Cody Beardslee, Midwest Commissioner
> codybeardslee at gmail.com <mailto:codybeardslee at gmail.com>
>  
> Logan Stenzel, Southern Commissioner
> stenzellogan at gmail.com <mailto:stenzellogan at gmail.com>
>  
> Robert Parsons, Pacific Commissioner
> Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu <mailto:Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu>
>  
> Gerald Meredith, Atlantic Commissioner
> Geraldmeredith1 at outlook.com <mailto:Geraldmeredith1 at outlook.com>
>  
> Not Sold Yet?
> As a bonus incentive, NABS has received a generous donation from Mt. Zion Church, located in Michigan, in the form of a $25 uber gift card. This prize will be awarded to the member that brings in the most external participants for this initiative. An external participant is defined as any team owner who is not an NFB member that successfully pays the buy-in amount and actively plays in the league. This can include your family, friends, coworkers, and associates. We look forward to having the most dynamic league yet.
>  
> Other Questions?
> For more information about the NABS Fantasy Football Initiative and other fundraising questions, please contact Robert Parsons at Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu <mailto:Robert.E.Parsons at wmich.edu> or a commissioner listed above. We look forward to connecting with all of you and continuing to make this tradition a fun and productive one for our division.
>  
> Best Regards
>  
> Robert E. Parsons, Jr.
> Chair| Fundraising Committee
> Vice President| Michigan Association of Blind Students
> Board Member| National Association of Blind Students
> P: 804.801.7674


From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 13:27:30 2020
From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:27:30 -0400
Subject: [NABS-L] Deadline Approaching: 2020 NFB-MI Scholarship Program
References: <DM6PR08MB399441A336837AD38E51A585C3500@DM6PR08MB3994.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <178E0DD1-5F29-4050-BD5C-1265366F7D4D@gmail.com>

Good Morning Friends
>  
> As the fall approaches, I am excited to witness the influx of college and high school students that are beginning their educational journeys. Though the method of instruction may be unorthodox for students, the National Federation of the Blind of Michigan’s college scholarship program is reliably still accepting applications until its deadline of September 30, 2020. This year, the Michigan affiliate offers three awards in the amounts of $1000, $500, and $250, respectively. We encourage all eligible students to submit their application materials as soon as possible so that they can be considered for one of these distinguished awards. To access the downloadable or online application, please visitwww.nfbmi.org/scholarship-programs/state-scholarship <http://www.nfbmi.org/scholarship-programs/state-scholarship>.  For questions, please send an email to scholarships at nfbmi.org <mailto:scholarships at nfbmi.org>. We look forward to receiving your applications this year and wish you all success in your endeavors.
>  
> Best 
>  
>  
> Robert E. Parsons, Jr.
> Chair| Scholarship Committee
> President| Kalamazoo Chapter
> Vice President| Michigan Association of Blind Students
> Board Member| National Federation of the Blind of Michigan
> Board Member| National Association of Blind Students
> Pronouns: He, Him, His
> P: 804.801.7674


From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 15:03:21 2020
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 10:03:21 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: MNABS Board Meeting Announcement
References: <04CAC699-3A36-4B78-B4E2-AE751AD31D6A@nfbmn.org>
Message-ID: <F5CEC8C3-E2F9-4D6D-80CF-99E0704B92BF@gmail.com>



Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Minnesota Association of Blind Students <students at nfbmn.org>
> Date: August 30, 2020 at 9:59:20 AM CDT
> To: NFBMN President <president at nfbmn.org>, Hunter Kuester <hunterkuester2 at gmail.com>, Cody Beardslee <codybeardslee at gmail.com>, Jennifer Wenzel <jwenzel at blindinc.org>
> Subject: Board Meeting Announcement
> 
> Hello All,
> Join us for our MNABS Board Meeting tonight, August 30 at 7:00 PM central. Come hear about upcoming plans, and find out how to get involved!
> Samantha F Flax is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
> 
> Topic: MNABS Board Meeting
> https://umn.zoom.us/j/94079899450?pwd=a3dmOFo1K0NRNnZUSWJFSUJHOWVKUT09
> 
> Meeting ID: 940 7989 9450
> Passcode: 3Ksj1K
> One tap mobile
> +16513728299,,94079899450#,,,,,,0#,,846478#

From fairall at panix.com  Mon Aug 31 17:53:14 2020
From: fairall at panix.com (Leslie Fairall)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 13:53:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessibility of office and Google Docs with voiceover
In-Reply-To: <CAEvYTGNXw4Ph-H2+c8mFFQJvKyt1xzhuDMr2ukaJutNMUz2U3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <189FE2F0-E45F-4C2A-ADFD-ABFF281324E0@maurice-amines.com>
 <CDC0832C-50B9-494D-8643-73C449A5502F@hawaii.edu>
 <CAEvYTGNXw4Ph-H2+c8mFFQJvKyt1xzhuDMr2ukaJutNMUz2U3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008311352140.29206@panix3.panix.com>

I'm working on trying to learn how to use Google Docs on my PC. I can get 
to my document but still not sure how to add my material.

-- 
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com



From codybeardslee at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 18:42:37 2020
From: codybeardslee at gmail.com (Cody Beardslee)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 13:42:37 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness
Message-ID: <4CFD78A9-B67C-454C-BAA5-7CB9CA55FF5B@gmail.com>

What’s up NABS fam, 

here’s the 4.1.1 we are back. Yes we missed you too, the Minnesota Association of Blind Students have more fun planned for you tomorrow. MNABS Monday Madness will start at 7 PM Central. We always look forward to seeing new and old faces. To join us use this link: 

Topic: MNABS Board Meeting

Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime

Join Zoom Meeting

https://umn.zoom.us/j/94079899450?pwd=a3dmOFo1K0NRNnZUSWJFSUJHOWVKUT09

Meeting ID: 940 7989 9450

Passcode: 3Ksj1K

One tap mobile

+16513728299,,94079899450#,,,,,,0#,,846478# US (St. Paul)

+16465588656,,94079899450#,,,,,,0#,,846478# US (New York)

Cody Beardslee, Residential and Activities Coordinator,
Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc.
100 East 22nd Street
Minneapolis, MN  55404
(612) 872-0100 Ext: 234
LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! 

From fairall at panix.com  Mon Aug 31 19:04:41 2020
From: fairall at panix.com (Leslie Fairall)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 15:04:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NABS-L] looking for people who have taken advanced level stats
In-Reply-To: <e7e7ad32-86b0-6947-df35-7dff0459b01c@gmail.com>
References: <e7e7ad32-86b0-6947-df35-7dff0459b01c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008311356330.13411@panix3.panix.com>

Hi Keri:

This is a private message. We emailed a few weeks ago. How is your stats 
class going? I just completed a couple of simple assignments, which took 
time but were pretty easy. This week I have to start using Excel to 
complete assignments. I don't know many Excel commands, which is 
frustrating. I can enter/edit data in a cell as well as delete a row. 
Unfortunately, that is the extent of my knowledge. I am now installing the 
data analysis toolpak. How are you holding up?

-- 
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com



From fairall at panix.com  Mon Aug 31 19:17:01 2020
From: fairall at panix.com (Leslie Fairall)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 15:17:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [NABS-L] looking for people who have taken advanced level stats
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008311356330.13411@panix3.panix.com>
References: <e7e7ad32-86b0-6947-df35-7dff0459b01c@gmail.com>
 <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008311356330.13411@panix3.panix.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008311516430.4836@panix3.panix.com>

I'm sorry, I thought this message was only going to the sender.

-- 
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com



From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Mon Aug 31 19:55:41 2020
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 19:55:41 +0000
Subject: [NABS-L] Accessibility of office and Google Docs with voiceover
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008311352140.29206@panix3.panix.com>
References: <189FE2F0-E45F-4C2A-ADFD-ABFF281324E0@maurice-amines.com>
 <CDC0832C-50B9-494D-8643-73C449A5502F@hawaii.edu>
 <CAEvYTGNXw4Ph-H2+c8mFFQJvKyt1xzhuDMr2ukaJutNMUz2U3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <alpine.NEB.2.23.451.2008311352140.29206@panix3.panix.com>
Message-ID: <SN6PR07MB4976D14C83979809B9FEA67AAA510@SN6PR07MB4976.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Hello Leslie,

The National Braille Press (nbp.org) has a short tutorial on how to use the Google environment.  Mystic Access (https://www.mysticaccess.com/) also has Google tutorials.    

Here are the first few lines of the NBP tutorial, in word format:

---
Getting Started with Google Suite

A Brief Overview of Google's Most Popular Productivity Apps

By Lisa Salinger, Kim Loftis, and Chris Grabowski

In 1 Volume

National Braille Press
--- 


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03 at outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Leslie Fairall via NABS-L
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 12:53 PM
To: Gene Kim via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Leslie Fairall <fairall at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Accessibility of office and Google Docs with voiceover

I'm working on trying to learn how to use Google Docs on my PC. I can get to my document but still not sure how to add my material.

--
Leslie Fairall
mailto:fairall at panix.com


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From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 23:55:48 2020
From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:55:48 -0500
Subject: [NABS-L] Extra! Extra! Read All About It!: August NABS Notes
 Enclosed
Message-ID: <CANGwUJPJpm7X5KXxyJVbCUoxx1CbJHQpL_=jTORy=CfnofskOg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello students!
We hope your back-to-school season is going well. Whether you’re swamped
with assignments already or itching to get back into the classroom, we have
the perfect distraction to share with you.
Linked below and attached are the August NABS Notes, which provide
information about our committee work, podcast, and so much more.
As always, we’d love any/all feedback you can offer us, so don’t be shy.
Reach out to me with questions, comments, or concerns. :)
http://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-august-2020

Enjoy!
Elizabeth Rouse
-- 
Elizabeth Rouse
She/her/hers
Secretary/Treasurer | Iowa Association of Blind Students
Co-Chair | National Association of Blind Students’ Outreach Committee
Treasurer | National Association of Blind Students
A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind
www.nabslink.org
elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com
563-210-1854
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