[NABS-L] board position 4

Sun Jul 19 21:31:23 UTC 2020

Hi Trisha and all. Congratulations Trisha and the whole NABS Board for the
2020-2021 NABS Calendar Year. United, let’s do the work of our organized
blind movement. Many thanks and much respect.
Onwards Together,
Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:19 PM Trisha Kulkarni via NABS-L <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Dear Students,
>
> I hope this message finds you well during what continues to be a unique
> time in history. With the close of convention and the appointment of our
> final board member last night, the 2020 National Association of Blind
> Students Board is officially in office. This is certainly not what I
> envisioned my first contact with the membership to be as President, but to
> me, it is important to address the ongoing conversations on our list serve
> and social media to ensure that full transparency remains at the core of
> our movement and that every student knows they have a voice.
>
> I want to thank you for your engagement in this year’s election process.
> It was clear from the moment that our convention went virtual that we would
> be navigating a difficult set of circumstances if board vacancies occurred.
> Kathryn worked closely with the board and national leadership to do what
> she felt was the most fair, and per the discussion and vote on Wednesday
> night, our membership agreed to move forward with a Google form vote for
> board position 3 and an appointment by the current President for board
> position 4. I want to be clear that the announcement made by Kathryn last
> night that was sent out on the list serve and social media was made by the
> 2019 to 2020 board, and her decision on the new leadership is final and
> non-negotiable.
>
> That being said, our work as an organization is strongly rooted in the
> voices of each of you as members, and I want to make sure that we use the
> experiences and frustrations from this week to be more unified moving
> forward:
> Communication: I appreciate that we have outlets to connect and discuss as
> a membership. However, the conversations I have seen occurring over the
> past day in these spaces have simply not been productive. In the process of
> determining a plan of action, we as leadership did not receive any direct
> communication from any students, but rather public statements of distaste.
> I ask that you all feel comfortable reaching out to me and the rest of the
> NABS Board if you have questions, concerns, or ideas about any of the work
> that we do. Most importantly, direct communication is key for enacting
> change. I am available by phone at 937-361-2363 and for now by email at
> trishak.nfb at gmail.com.
> Our NABS Constitution: I am working quickly and diligently to get the NABS
> Constitution with the amendment from 2017 onto our website and know that it
> is a priority of ours to ensure that you have full access to the governing
> principles of this organization. We have been facing challenges due to some
> updates that need to be made to our server by the national office, but I
> assure you that this concern of the membership is fully valid and will be
> resolved as soon as possible.
> The Importance of Active Participation: Finally, I want to reiterate that
> none of what we do in NABS is possible without all of you. It is important
> that you get connected, get involved, and get to know us as an
> organization. That is the best way to make sure that we keep up the awesome
> momentum that we have and are able to problem solve together when faced
> with challenges.
> Myself and the rest of the NABS Board is incredibly excited to get to
> work, and I want to thank you for putting your trust in us to lead this
> effort forward with integrity.
>
> Yours,
> Trisha Kulkarni
> President | National Association of Blind Students
> A Proud Division of the National Federation of the Blind
> www.nabslink.org
>
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2020, at 3:08 PM, Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.  From my understanding, and from what I have reviewed of this email
> > thread, nobody has made, and nobody should be making, personal attacks.
> It
> > clearly appears that there are folks reflecting on how the process took
> > place and speaking out as to how they would have approached the situation
> > differently. I do believe we have to welcome our new incoming board and
> > officers, but I believe discussion is always welcomed in a democratic
> > setting. Tyler, you make a good point and indicating that we should be
> the
> > change we wish to see. This is great stuff. Thank you for that amazing
> > input.  In that, we should reflect on how to better handle virtual voting
> > situations, as was very well handled at yesterday‘s later general
> session.
> > Take care. Many thanks and much respect.
> > Sincerely,
> > Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:19 AM Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L <
> >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> At some point in your life--when you hold a position with power and have
> >> to make tough decisions, I hope you think back on all of your personal
> >> attacks on Kathryn. No one is perfect. As a leader, you have to make
> >> decisions that impact an organization as a whole, and you have to hope
> >> that your prior leadership and work will stand for something. I find it
> >> more than a bit sad that all of her work, effort, leadership and time
> >> seems to have been forgotten.
> >>
> >> TL/DR: people make mistakes, sometimes people don't make the best calls
> >> under pressure. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but give that
> >> some thought before you continue to hurl your insults and personal
> >> attacks. The current decision now has been made and we're not going
> >> back. So, I say that if this was a problem, if you disagree with the way
> >> this decision happened, be the change you want to see. Get in touch with
> >> one of the current officers or board members listed, drive some effort
> >> forward to create a plan for how to handle this next time. It takes
> >> minimal effort to write a smug snarky email (yes, I did just write
> >> that), it takes a lot more to create the change you are complaining
> about.
> >>
> >>> On 7/19/2020 2:36 AM, JASON ALAMILLO via NABS-L wrote:
> >>> I do wonder why the national association of blind students president in
> >> 2017 didn’t update the website with the new constitution in 2017 when
> the
> >> new constitution was made? It seems a bit shady and defensive to be
> using
> >> that as an excuse when we can poke many holes through it if you ask me.
> >>>
> >>>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Nico Petrillo via NABS-L <
> >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems I am wrong. My mistake, believing that the constitution that
> >> is public to all was the one we operated off of. If the constitution is
> not
> >> public and its most current state how can you expect Voters To be
> properly
> >> informed of the rules and regulations of the organization. It strikes me
> >> that in the situation Kathryns decision is final duping members into
> voting
> >> for some thing without proper information in my opinion is
> deplorable.both
> >> as a member  and as a concerned party I hope that this updated
> constitution
> >> will be Publicized in the future, so that students aren’t taken
> advantage
> >> of because of their ignorance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Humbly,
> >>>> Nick Petrillo
> >>>> He/him/his
> >>>> Virginia Association of Blind Students| President
> >>>> 703-346-9981
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Kathryn Webster, National Student
> >> President <nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Nick and all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I appreciate the open dialogue on this issue. I do, however, think
> >> that the back-and-forth is not helpful, and instead harmful to our
> members.
> >> I say this because our membership voted on Wednesday night in support of
> >> the decision made to allow me, as the current president at that moment,
> to
> >> appoint the final seat. Full disclosure, there was not any opposition to
> >> this decision at all. If there was, I promise it would have been
> addressed.
> >> Nothing was rushed and nothing was pushed under the rug. The motion to
> >> close discussion and proceed as I outlined was moved, seconded, and
> voted
> >> on by our membership prior to adjournment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nick - The link you posted to our national student division
> >> constitution is out of date as we voted in 2017 to allow for officers
> to be
> >> elected on the even year and board members to be elected during the odd
> >> years. This is not reflected on the online version, though is reflected
> >> below. There have been technical difficulties with our web site for
> quite
> >> some time as the late Rachel Olivero was a big asset to our national
> >> student division site, so bear with us as we merge into the updated NFB
> >> server and site in the coming months. To that end, you will find the
> most
> >> updated constitution below, the one voted on during our 2017 annual
> >> business meeting. This has different information around when leaders are
> >> elected. The board begins collectively once all positions are made
> final.
> >> This is interpretation, so I will choose not to argue with those who
> >> disagree. I also offered the idea around the final appointment and this
> was
> >> moved by all present and choosing to vote.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do want to note that the Constitution will not have a line item
> that
> >> reads that the president can do a specific action. Our organization
> instead
> >> puts a tremendous amount of trust in our presidents across the board.
> That
> >> means, executive decisions are made often in order to move our
> organization
> >> forward. We are living in unprecedented times right now. Six months
> ago, no
> >> one could have imagined voting virtually for NABS. Generally speaking,
> >> voting for NABS brings about a ton of emotions and perspectives in and
> of
> >> itself. Again, our membership voted on the decision that I would make
> the
> >> final appointment. There was not any disagreement during our annual
> regular
> >> business meeting. I appreciate the ideas for holding special meetings or
> >> opening a Google form. I also appreciate the thoughts that are shared
> >> around how you are feeling with the decision that was made. Since our
> >> members voted on said decision and since we are now nearing the end of
> our
> >> convention, this is how we plan to proceed for the benefit of the
> National
> >> Association of Blind Students.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is unfortunate that not all decisions can be favored by all,
> though
> >> I really did think this one was until concerns were surfaced yesterday
> and
> >> today.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please find our Constitution below:
> >>>>> ARTICLE I. NAME
> >>>>> The name of this organization is the National Association of Blind
> >> Students.
> >>>>> ARTICLE II. PURPOSE
> >>>>> The purpose of the National Association of Blind Students is to
> >> function as a mechanism through which blind students and interested
> sighted
> >> persons can come together in local, state and national meetings to plan
> and
> >> carry out our programs to improve educational  and equality of life for
> the
> >> blind; to provide a means of collective action for blind students; to
> >> promote the educational, vocational, economic, cultural, and social
> >> advancement of the blind; to strengthen and enhance educational programs
> >> for the blind; to take such other action as will improve the overall
> >> condition and standard of living of the blind; and to participate as an
> >> integral part of the National Federation of the Blind in its various
> >> activities.
> >>>>> Article III. Membership
> >>>>> Section 1. -- Members
> >>>>> At least a majority of the active members of this organization must
> be
> >> blind. Any student, or anyone interested in the pursuit of studies may
> >> become an active member of this association, provided that such person
> >> meets the eligibility requirements for membership in the National
> >> Federation of the Blind.
> >>>>> Section 2. -- expulsion
> >>>>> Any person who has been expelled by the National Federation of the
> >> Blind shall automatically cease to be a member of this Association. Any
> >> member of this organization may be expelled for misconduct, or for
> activity
> >> unbecoming to a member of this organization by a two-thirds vote of the
> >> active members present and voting at a regular or special meeting of
> this
> >> association, or by a two-thirds vote of the board of directors of this
> >> organization subject to ratification by the general membership.
> >>>>> Section 3. -- reinstatement of membership
> >>>>> A person may be reinstated to membership in this organization by a
> >> two-thirds vote of the active members present and voting at a regular or
> >> special meeting of this Association, or by a two-thirds vote of its
> board
> >> of directors, provided that such person meets the eligibility
> requirements
> >> for membership or for reinstatement to membership in the National
> >> Federation of the Blind.
> >>>>> ARTICLE IV. Officers and Their Duties
> >>>>> There shall be elected at the annual meeting of this organization: in
> >> each even numbered year, a President, a First Vice President, a Second
> Vice
> >> President, a Treasurer, and a Secretary, and in each odd numbered year
> four
> >> (4) board members, designated as Board Member one, board member two,
> Board
> >> Member three, and board member four. The terms of these officers and
> board
> >> members shall begin at the close of the meeting at which they are
> elected
> >> and qualified. The President and Vice Presidents of this organization
> must
> >> be blind. Officers and board members shall be elected by a majority
> vote of
> >> the members of this Association present and voting. All officers and
> board
> >> members must be in school for one year following their election. There
> >> shall be no proxy votes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If no nominee receives a majority vote on the first ballot, the name
> >> of the person receiving the fewest votes shall be dropped from the list
> of
> >> nominees and a second ballot shall be taken. This procedure shall
> continue
> >> until one of the nominees receives a majority vote. These officers and
> >> board members constitute the board of directors for this Association.
> The
> >> officers and board members are authorized to conduct such business as is
> >> necessary for the normal operation of this Association between the
> annual
> >> regular meetings of the Association. The duties of each officer and
> board
> >> member shall be those ordinarily associated with the office.
> >>>>> ARTICLE V. Meetings.
> >>>>> This Association will meet twice a year in conjunction with the
> annual
> >> convention of the National Federation of the Blind and the Washington
> >> Seminar of the National Federation of the Blind. � Special meetings may
> be
> >> called by the President of the Association, or by most of the board of
> >> directors to transact business or otherwise to further the purposes of
> this
> >> Association.
> >>>>> ARTICLE VI. Committees
> >>>>> The President may appoint such committees as they or the members of
> >> the Association deem necessary.
> >>>>> ARTICLE VII. Dues
> >>>>> The dues of this Association shall be $5.00 per year payable in
> >> advance.
> >>>>> ARTICLE VIII. Disbursement of Funds
> >>>>> The funds of this organization shall be deposited in a bank to be
> >> selected by the Treasurer with the approval of the President. All
> financial
> >> obligations of this organization shall be discharged by check issued on
> >> order of the President and signed by the Treasurer or the President.
> >>>>> ARTICLE IX. Affiliation
> >>>>> The National Association of Blind Students is a division of the
> >> National Federation of the Blind. The Association shall furnish to the
> >> President of the National Federation of the Blind, a copy of this
> >> constitution and any amendments that may be adopted in the future, and
> the
> >> names and addresses of the members and elected officers. This
> organization
> >> will comply with the provisions of the constitution of the National
> >> Federation of the Blind. In the event of the reorganization of this
> >> Association, the assets of this organization belong to the reorganized
> >> Association, and the former Association shall dissolve and cease to
> exist.
> >>>>> ARTICLE X. Dissolution
> >>>>> In the event of dissolution of this Association, or for whatever
> >> reason it ceases to be a division of the National Federation of the
> Blind,
> >> its assets shall be distributed to the National Federation of the Blind
> to
> >> be held in trust for a reorganized division of the National Federation
> of
> >> the Blind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If no division is organized for a one-year period from the date this
> >> Association ceases to be a division of the National Federation of the
> >> Blind, the assets become the property of the National Federation of the
> >> Blind.
> >>>>> ARTICLE XI. Amendments
> >>>>> This constitution may be amended at any regular meeting of the
> >> Association by an affirmative vote of two-thirds of the active members
> >> present and voting, provided the amendment has been submitted to the
> >> President in writing, at least one day in advance of the regular
> meeting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Love,
> >>>>> Kathryn Webster
> >>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Nico Petrillo <mrnicopetrillo at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:36 PM
> >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <
> >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Cc: Nabs.president at gmail.com; Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] board position 4
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As a state student division president I also agree having state
> >> student division presidents vote is not the way to go. Imposing a
> deadline
> >> like this is creating the issues at hand. Simply call a special meeting
> to
> >> vote on board member for when it is convenient to the new board. I want
> to
> >> reiterate I’m not questioning anyone’s ethics or intentions just that we
> >> abide by our constitution. Below is the link to the constitution that is
> >> public on a Our student division website.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://nabslink.org/about/constitution
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nick Petrillo
> >>>>> He/him/his
> >>>>> Virginia Association of Blind Students| President
> >>>>> 703-346-9981
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Justin Young via NABS-L <
> >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you Kathryn for your detailed response outlining the rationale
> >>>>> behind the decisions made for the annual NABS business meeting & our
> >>>>> elections.  I support the decision made and the reasons presented.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have heard a few times now the idea of having Student Division
> State
> >>>>> Presidents as delegates, but until there is a students division in
> all
> >>>>> 52 affiliates, this would never be a fair method or respectful to all
> >>>>> NABS members because their voices might be lost using that kind of
> >>>>> system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks & I look forward to hearing the result of the
> Outgoing/Incoming
> >>>>> Board & Nominating committee for which student will fill this
> vacancy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Justin Young
> >>>>> President, New York Association of Blind Students
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/18/20, Kathryn Webster, National Student President via NABS-L
> >>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First and foremost, thank you so much for surfacing your concerns on
> a
> >>>>> public platform. I applaud you for exercising your voice in this
> >> format. I
> >>>>> want to clearly explain voting protocol so there is full
> transparency.
> >> I
> >>>>> also want to highlight that these concerns should have been brought
> up
> >> on
> >>>>> Wednesday night, as we felt comfortable and confident in the decision
> >> made
> >>>>> upon adjournment. If that was not the case, I wish we could have
> openly
> >>>>> talked about it regardless of the time. I hope you understand that I
> >> am a
> >>>>> fair leader, one in which values each of your ideas, contributions,
> and
> >>>>> opinions. To that end, I only want full transparency, fairness, and
> >> honesty.
> >>>>> I do not say this to be defensive, I only mention it because I tried
> >> to make
> >>>>> it as clear as possible that I am open to alternative ideas, not only
> >> the
> >>>>> executive decision I made. The entire board would have stayed on Zoom
> >> ready
> >>>>> to go name by name down our registration list if that is the
> direction
> >> that
> >>>>> made the most sense. As I'm sure you can imagine, this is a tough
> >> situation
> >>>>> to be in, given the circumstances.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Each year, we initially rely on voice vote to conduct elections. This
> >>>>> proceeds to a standing vote if the voice vote does not suffice in
> >> making a
> >>>>> clear decision. Any member elected must receive a majority vote of
> the
> >>>>> active members present and voting. If there are more than two members
> >>>>> seeking a given position, then we proceed in the following way. We
> >> would
> >>>>> take a voice vote, dropping the candidate who received the least
> >> amount of
> >>>>> votes. We would then conduct another voice vote, dropping the
> >> individual who
> >>>>> received the least amount of votes that time around. This continues
> >> until
> >>>>> there are two candidates remaining. Again, a majority of votes must
> be
> >>>>> received in order to be fairly and constitutionally elected.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This year is different due to the virtual environment. A Google form
> >> would
> >>>>> have to be distributed at least four times to the hundreds of members
> >> to
> >>>>> ensure it is done fairly. On the other hand, the final seat is a
> 1-year
> >>>>> position this time around, as it was vacated by a board member who
> was
> >>>>> elected to an officer position. To be completely honest, as
> president,
> >> I
> >>>>> could have appointed all three vacated board positions from a
> >> constitutional
> >>>>> perspective. I did not feel comfortable doing that as the voice of
> the
> >>>>> membership is critical in our movement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While we all have extremely passionate emotions around what
> completes a
> >>>>> great NABS Board, I promise that my heart is in the right place in
> >> making
> >>>>> this decision. Diversity matters. Experience matters. Balance
> matters.
> >> I am
> >>>>> working with the outgoing and incoming NABS Board to make the wisest
> >> and
> >>>>> most appropriate decision for the future of NABS. I also am working
> >> with our
> >>>>> trusted Nominating Committee to be intentional, aware, and proactive.
> >> This
> >>>>> means, everyone's opinion matters. However, this also means that a
> >>>>> discussion on the NABS list or on Facebook does not compare, even
> >> slightly,
> >>>>> to allowing for an open forum during our annual business meeting.
> >> Leaning on
> >>>>> student state delegates who were present excludes all states that
> were
> >> not
> >>>>> on at 11:30pm. Not to mention not all states have delegates to
> >> represent
> >>>>> you. Taking a vote via Google form is not logistically feasible given
> >> the
> >>>>> protocol that is needed to follow voting procedures. As president, I
> >> have
> >>>>> the right to proceed in this way, as long as I am being ethical and
> >>>>> intentional. All members who ran for Board Member 3 or Board Member 4
> >> are
> >>>>> prioritized for consideration, without a doubt.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am saddened that members are not feeling that I am proceeding as
> you
> >> would
> >>>>> prefer. I also hope that you can trust that my opinion is not the
> only
> >> one
> >>>>> that is being taken into account. As we are seeing at General Session
> >> right
> >>>>> now, sometimes the virtual space forces us to make decisions that
> were
> >> not
> >>>>> initially planned. Our NABS board put in a ton of thought and
> >> intention as
> >>>>> we discussed the mitigation strategies for elections this year. Not
> to
> >>>>> mention, many divisions opted to not hold elections this year; and
> >> instead
> >>>>> continue with the current board until next year. We did not agree
> with
> >> that
> >>>>> approach, and thus problem solved ways to be most fair.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I appreciate you reading and truly hope that you feel empowered to
> >> call me
> >>>>> to discuss if you continue to have concerns. I value you; I
> appreciate
> >> you;
> >>>>> and, at the end of the day, we need you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Love,
> >>>>> Kathryn Webster
> >>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
> >>>>> 203-273-8463
> >>>>> Nabs.president at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Victor Marques
> >> via
> >>>>> NABS-L
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:16 PM
> >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <
> >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Cc: Victor Marques <therealvictormarques at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] board position 4
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I too was dissatisfied with the choice to simply appoint board member
> >> 4.
> >>>>> Those who expressed an interest at the meeting, and the individual
> who
> >> was
> >>>>> not successful for board position 3, should be put into a 5 way
> Google
> >> Form
> >>>>> vote. It would be easy to cross-reference membership and tally votes.
> >> Should
> >>>>> the be a tie for positions 1 and 2, that could be decided by a second
> >> vote.
> >>>>> That’s the democratic way I would have handled this, Google Forms is
> >>>>> perfectly capable as a tool to manage this election.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’m glad I am not the only one who felt this way.  I felt this was
> >> pushed
> >>>>> through without voting on the rules of engagement or without adequate
> >>>>> discussion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Victor Marques
> >>>>> NABS Member
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Keri Svendsen via NABS-L <
> >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think this is reasonable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/18/2020 4:40 PM, Zachary GriegoDreicer via NABS-L wrote:
> >>>>> Hello, I hope everyone is enjoying convention. I've had a number of
> >>>>> people talking on facebook and to me directly that we don't approve
> of
> >>>>> the handling of the voting of board position 4. There has been
> >>>>> significant discussion of this topic and I think that the discussion
> >>>>> should  be opened to all NABS members. I think it only fair that
> >> everyone
> >>>>> who ran for other board positions, and were not elected, should be
> >>>>> allowed to run again for said position. Further, any dues paying
> member
> >>>>> should be able to vote for the student they believe the best to serve
> >> in
> >>>>> this role. I propose that a second google form be created for this
> >>>>> purpose. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the general convention
> >> would
> >>>>> run perhaps by raising hands in zoom or something similar to fill all
> >>>>> positions....I think we will find out soon enough if my thought
> process
> >>>>> is correct. Thus, in fairness to all involved, I would like to
> suggest
> >>>>> that position 4 be elected by google forms or other fair form of
> >> voting.
> >>>>> I would love everyone's input. Thanks all for your consideration.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my BrailleNote touch
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> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Keri Svendsen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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