[NABS-L] No More NABS 2020 Election Talk on This List Serve

Mon Jul 20 06:39:27 UTC 2020

Thank you Maura. We should all conduct ourselves with respect on public
email list serves, as I understand we all have thus far. Let’s build the
Federation together. This is all that y’all will here from me. No more from
me. Many thanks and much respect.
Sincerely,
Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 2:25 AM Maura Loberg via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello folks. Although I, like many others, was unhappy with the way things
> were handled, it is over so there is no sense going on about it. I realize
> that this is somewhat hypocritical for me to say, since I'm talking about
> it. If you are not willing to act like an adult and bring your concerns
> through the appropriate channels, and you instead choose to continue
> whining about how much you dislike the decision after a clear opportunity
> for discussion passed you by, then you have no business being a member of
> this association. We are a group of adults who do serious work, and
> constant fighting for the sake of fighting is not mature or effective. If
> you feel the need to keep venting about the way things went, that is fine,
> but please do it in private for the sake of everyone's inboxes. I am a
> president of a state student division, so my heart goes out to Kathryn. She
> truly did what she thought was best. This email list is not the place to
> shame or belittle anyone because that is simply not what this division is
> all about. On a related note, I would suggest heavier moderator activity on
> this list. I understand it is meant to be an open discussion forum, but it
> would prevent fights like this from disrupting more important emails.
> Thanks
> Maura
>
> Maura J. Loberg
> Nebraska Wesleyan University, class of 2024
> President
> | Nebraska Association of Blind Students
>
>
> > On Jul 19, 2020, at 10:51 PM, Harry Staley via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with this. Alway be agents and doers of the change you want to
> see.
> >
> > Harry Staley
> > (330) 718-1876
> > hstaley at nfbtx.org
> >
> >> On Jul 19, 2020, at 21:37, Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Folks. All those who are concerned should organize off of this email
> >> list and mobilize to make the changes y’all find necessary. Regardless
> of
> >> decisions made, respectful and productive advocacy is the name of the
> game.
> >> Remember folks, respectful and productive. Be organized, effective, and
> >> strategic in your methods. Good Luck Y’all! Many thanks and much
> respect.
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:56 PM Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L <
> >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Syed,
> >>>
> >>> There are many points of your email in which I disagree. However, I
> >>> believe the one thing we can agree on is that there is no need for this
> >>> discussion to continue on the email list.
> >>>
> >>> It appears to me that everyone who has an opinion in regards to this
> >>> matter have posted their thoughts to the email list. So there is
> really no
> >>> need to repeat what has already been said. If anyone is still
> passionate
> >>> about this issue then I would encourage you to take action by getting
> >>> involved to create the change in which you seek.
> >>>
> >>> The National Association of Blind Students board does not operate on
> its
> >>> own. It takes general members to make things happen within this
> >>> organization. As the newly elected President, Trisha has offered an
> >>> invitation to work with anyone who was not happy with the way the
> elections
> >>> for the fourth board position were conducted. And both Trisha and Syed
> have
> >>> respectfully asked for this discussion to stop on the email list.
> >>>
> >>> It is perfectly fine to disagree with someone. But there are ways to
> >>> disagree with someone while still treating the other person with
> respect.
> >>> So I encourage those of you who disagree to treat the new members of
> the
> >>> National Association of Blind Students with the respect they deserve.
> >>>
> >>> Warm regards,
> >>> Elizabeth Mohnke
> >>> way
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via
> >>> NABS-L
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 6:21 PM
> >>> To: nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Cc: Syed Rizvi <syedrizvinfb at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: [NABS-L] No More NABS 2020 Election Talk on This List Serve
> >>>
> >>> Dear Students,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The conduct of our membership that I have witnessed over the last few
> days
> >>> has saddened me greatly. Every single person who has brought up
> concerns
> >>> regarding the election invalidates their own position through their
> wildly
> >>> inappropriate adoption of slander, disrespect, and a hyper aggressive
> >>> nature. We are all adults here, participating in a professional
> >>> organization, all working towards a common goal. If anyone has any
> >>> concerns, they would like addressed, there is a mature, respectful, and
> >>> professional way to raise these concerns. The purpose of this email
> list
> >>> serves, and our social media outlets is not for political banter,
> rather
> >>> these platforms are meant for blind students to ask questions, access
> >>> resources and to assist one another in our shared journeys.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you genuinely believe that you and or the membership were wronged,
> then
> >>> take the appropriate steps to address the wrongdoing. Until that time,
> stop
> >>> misusing these platforms. Reach out to the current NABS board with your
> >>> concerns. If you feel dissatisfied with their response to your
> concerns,
> >>> then we have a robust national leadership dedicated to ensuring proper
> >>> management of our organization. It is not enough to just talk the
> talk. One
> >>> must walk the walk. If you are upset, then take the appropriate steps
> >>> rather than continuing to create pointless chaos on our platforms.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I was hesitant in writing this email as I generally refrain from
> >>> acknowledging inappropriate behavior, as that usually meets the goal
> of the
> >>> transgressor of trying to gain the spotlight, but the misuse of these
> >>> platforms can no longer continue.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Respectfully,
> >>>
> >>>              Syed Rizvi
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