From Vyingling at nfb.org Thu Apr 1 13:13:42 2021 From: Vyingling at nfb.org (Yingling, Valerie) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 13:13:42 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Spring 2021 AP Exams Message-ID: If you encounter barriers with your Spring 2021 AP Exam accommodations, including if you have been told that Braille or tactile graphics are not available for your test, please contact Valerie Yingling at vyingling at nfb.org. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. From kiehley at mail.uc.edu Thu Apr 1 14:08:32 2021 From: kiehley at mail.uc.edu (Kiehl, Emily (kiehley)) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 14:08:32 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] OABS Two Blind Brothers event Message-ID: Hi all! Curious about what it's like being a blind entrepreneur? Interested in learning more about Two Blind Brothers, a nationally recognized clothing company? Come join the Ohio Association of Blind Students as we bring you an exciting event on April 13th at 7 pm Eastern! For our April meeting, we will be joined by Bradford and Bryan Manning, the founders of Two Blind Brothers, to discuss entrepreneurship, education, and leadership. If you want to learn more about our guests, we have linked some of their information below. Everyone is welcome to join us! The meeting will be April 13th at 7pm EST. The Zoom link is https://zoom.us/j/408185085 Here is an introduction video on Two Blind Brothers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mf2FcylPU. "We find it incredible that our vulnerabilities, our passions, and the most nuanced parts of ourselves are now scalable, whether it's a small business or an organization that wants to help people. Knowing that your experience is now relevant to somebody else in the world because now you can actually connect with him or her is a powerful thing" -Bryan Manning Hope to see you there! Emily Kiehl University of Cincinnati | 2023 Information Technology - Networking National Association of Blind Students - Ohio 813-394-2720 From julialagrand at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 20:16:48 2021 From: julialagrand at gmail.com (Julia LaGrand) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 16:16:48 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Time for Some Music! Message-ID: <60662b90.1c69fb81.4c98d.f8fe@mx.google.com> Dear students, I am a fairly new member of NABS. I am from Grand Rapids, Michigan and am a junior in high school. I am also a passionate classical violinist, and I've noticed that there aren't all that many of us. I may be looking in the wrong places, but I am writing a research paper that analyzes the intersections of disability and classical music. Among other things, I am gathering responses from various people through the form below. Whether you are a musician or not, whether you hate classical music or love it, your response to the following form is welcome and appreciated. Thank you very much for your valuable time, Julia LaGrand https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc4qngqxuLctnbHVfgY0bxb9dJ7X95W-nkd_jmufgiuNA3Igw/viewform?usp=sf_link From david.b.andrews at state.mn.us Thu Apr 1 19:02:56 2021 From: david.b.andrews at state.mn.us (Andrews, David B (DEED)) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 19:02:56 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] FW: Summer Work opportunities MN Message-ID: From: Koenig, Sheila (DEED) via MN.BVI Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:17 PM To: MN.BVI at mailmanlists.us Subject: [MN.BVI] Summer Work opportunities This message may be from an external email source. Do not select links or open attachments unless verified. Report all suspicious emails to Minnesota IT Services Security Operations Center. ________________________________ Hi Everyone, SSB is excited to announce that we have posted two paid summer work-based learning opportunities. Most if not all work will be virtual. Like last summer, we will be hiring Peer Educators to help us develop summer programs. They will be facilitating groups, mentoring other students, and creating opportunities for student connection. Additionally, we will be hiring a Marketing and Outreach Associate. This person will assist our Outreach Coordinator in various communications and presentations. You can find both position descriptions at https://mn.gov/deed/ssb/teens/job-life-skills.jsp The application is on the second page of both documents. Students may apply for both positions if both are in their potential career interest. Because of funding, students must be ages 14-21 and in an education program like high school or college. Applications need to be submitted to Sheila.koenig at state.mn.us by April 19, 2021. Please reach out with any questions. Have a great week! Sheila Sheila Koenig, M.Ed. | Transition Coordinator Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind, 2200 University Ave. W., Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114 Direct: 651-539-2361 Cell: 651-425-0636 Web | Twitter | Facebook [cid:729aa3f5-7cbb-44c9-9290-8f7aaf012826] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-3nuf4ayk.png Type: image/png Size: 16513 bytes Desc: Outlook-3nuf4ayk.png URL: From dandrews920 at comcast.net Sat Apr 3 04:05:45 2021 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2021 23:05:45 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] How To Stop Jaws from Reading All Punctuations In-Reply-To: RVSml5yoHTuLURVSnlG2rj.1617176429.80291bfc8e0998d041ef229e3 b8033fb.MISSINGID@nfbnet.org References: Message-ID: The quickest way to do this is to rerun the startup Wizard. Hit insert-j for jaws menu, up arrow to help, hit enter, up arrow to startup wizard and hit enter. You tab and arrow through choices, set punctuation to some, most is default, and you can adjust your speed and other options. These settings will stick. Dave At 04:19 PM 3/30/2021, you wrote: >Hi, Everyone, >Do you have any suggestions on how you stop Jaws from reading all >the Punctuations such as the coma or the period at the end of every >sentence? It's getting annoying and I feel like I could read faster without it. >I also want to know how to adjust the speed of the Jaws talking in >settings so it doesn't constantly slow back to the original speed. >Thanks >Elizabeth From steve.jacobson at outlook.com Sat Apr 3 14:43:20 2021 From: steve.jacobson at outlook.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 14:43:20 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Final Reminder - Scholarships Available for Minnesota's Legally Blind Students until April 15, 2021 In-Reply-To: <015201d72895$32ae2270$980a6750$@nfbmn.org> References: <015201d72895$32ae2270$980a6750$@nfbmn.org> Message-ID: There are still almost two weeks to apply for scholarships with the National Federation of the Blind of Minnesota. Our deadline for applications is April 15. Legally blind postsecondary students attending school full-time in Minnesota are encouraged to apply. Two scholarships of $2,000 and $1,500 will be awarded at our state convention in Bloomington during the weekend of November 5-7, and your expenses will be paid to attend that convention. In addition, scholarship winners will have the opportunity to attend our national virtual convention on July 6-10. The application for our scholarship and all pertinent information and an on-line application can be found at https://www.nfbmn.org/programs/scholarships Please note that our state convention was "virtual" last year, so a decision will be made about the actual location of our state convention closer to the scheduled date. A Microsoft Word version of the application is also attached to this note. If you use the attached Microsoft Word form, send it with the required documents to Scholarships at nfbmn.org. If it is necessary to submit the application on paper, use the mailing address supplied with the application in the attached document. For questions about the application process, please contact the Scholarship Committee at Scholarships at nfbmn.org or call our office at 612-872-9363. *** A Note from our national office: Thirty scholarships will be awarded by the National Federation of the Blind, but this year's deadline has past. Keep our national scholarships in mind for next year. Best regards, NFB of Minnesota Scholarship Committee -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2021 Scholarship Letter and Application.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 203083 bytes Desc: 2021 Scholarship Letter and Application.docx URL: From r-bacchus at outlook.com Sun Apr 4 09:53:27 2021 From: r-bacchus at outlook.com (Roanna Bacchus) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 09:53:27 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide Plant-Based Alternatives! Message-ID: Hey, I just signed the petition "Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide Plant-Based Alternatives!" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name. Our goal is to reach 50,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here: http://chng.it/M8RvGpw2Nw Thanks! Roanna Sent from my iPhone From tyler at tysdomain.com Sun Apr 4 11:15:27 2021 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Tyler Littlefield) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 07:15:27 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide Plant-Based Alternatives! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just curious how all these you are sending are student or nabs related? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2021, at 5:54 AM, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: > > Hey, > > I just signed the petition "Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide Plant-Based Alternatives!" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name. > > Our goal is to reach 50,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here: > > http://chng.it/M8RvGpw2Nw > > Thanks! > Roanna > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com From hstaley at nfbtx.org Sun Apr 4 11:18:23 2021 From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 06:18:23 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide Plant-Based Alternatives! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B02DED0-697E-4E3F-AAB1-DF451D2D3C5B@nfbtx.org> Agreed! Tyler. Harry Staley Treasurer Texas Association of Blind Students 330-718-1876 Hstaley at nfbtx.org NFB San Antonio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NatlFederationOfTheBlindSATX/ NFB San Antonio Groupme: https://groupme.com/join_group/38340408/IUF3ab > On Apr 4, 2021, at 6:15 AM, Tyler Littlefield via NABS-L wrote: > > Just curious how all these you are sending are student or nabs related? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 4, 2021, at 5:54 AM, Roanna Bacchus via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I just signed the petition "Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide Plant-Based Alternatives!" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name. >> >> Our goal is to reach 50,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here: >> >> http://chng.it/M8RvGpw2Nw >> >> Thanks! >> Roanna >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hstaley%40nfbtx.org From hunterkuester2 at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 14:26:03 2021 From: hunterkuester2 at gmail.com (Hunter Kuester) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 09:26:03 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Important reminder: NABS April fundraising committee meeting Message-ID: Attention NABS Network, We are under 100 days until national convention! That being said NABS needs your help with some extraordinary fundraisers.Walkathons, cookbooks, and T-shirts oh my! Come join in on the fun next Sunday, April 11 at 9 PM Eastern 6 PM Pacific. Not on the committee? No problem we love all our students, and hope you have a chance to make it. To join us: Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j Meeting ID: 467 883 3687 One tap mobile +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown) +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago) Keep it classy, Hunter Kuester Co-chair NABS fundraising Committee -- Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc. 100 East 22nd Street Minneapolis, MN 55404 (612) 872-0100 ext. 234 First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students Cell: (920)-285-8530 hunterkuester2 at gmail.com LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! From dandrews920 at comcast.net Mon Apr 5 00:30:07 2021 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:30:07 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide Plant-Based Alternatives! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is not blindness-related, thus is off-topic for this list. Dave David Andrews, List Owner At 04:53 AM 4/4/2021, you wrote: >Hey, > >I just signed the petition "Popeyes: Popeyes: Help Workers, Provide >Plant-Based Alternatives!" and wanted to see if you could help by >adding your name. > >Our goal is to reach 50,000 signatures and we need more support. You >can read more and sign the petition here: > >http://chng.it/M8RvGpw2Nw > >Thanks! >Roanna From schoi09 at outlook.com Mon Apr 5 01:50:53 2021 From: schoi09 at outlook.com (Seyoon Choi) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 01:50:53 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Focus on Self Care with This Month's Episode of the NABS NOW Podcast Message-ID: <0BC2338D-ECE7-42AD-90BB-612B980669DB@outlook.com> Happy April, NABS, We hope your spring is off to a great start! In the continued COVID-19 pandemic, self care and prioritizing ourselves is more important than ever, and, with the quickly approaching finals season, the NABS NOW team is excited to present this month’s episode all about caring for ourselves. Plus, listen till the end for a free guided meditation exercise by one of our guest speaker. Listen on: Apple podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nabs-now-podcast/id1507437256#episodeGuid=89d2aefe-201b-483c-9dc8-92ca85ff6351 Overcast Spotify NABS website: nabslink.org Happy listening! Warmly Seyoon Seyoon Choi, he/him/his President: Missouri Association of Blind Students Co-chair | Outreach Committee National Association of Blind Students schoi09 at outlook.com (314) 650-8306 From rupasprech at att.net Mon Apr 5 15:44:24 2021 From: rupasprech at att.net (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 11:44:24 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help with Audacity and using Sound? Message-ID: Hi All, Could I set up a time with someone to work through understanding Audacity and using clips of sound? I have an assignment to turn in this week and I don't have much time to spend playing with Audaction. Would sometime Tuesday, April 6th work? Thanks Elizabeth From tyler at tysdomain.com Mon Apr 5 16:24:55 2021 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 12:24:55 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help with Audacity and using Sound? In-Reply-To: <606b351c.1c69fb81.400a4.9466SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <606b351c.1c69fb81.400a4.9466SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4ee63bfc-55de-00dd-3933-33c78f79226d@tysdomain.com> Hi elizabeth, Can you give me some idea of what you're trying to accomplish? I don't use Audacity much but I do a decent amount of sound mixing/editing and likely could help you figure things out. On 4/5/2021 11:44 AM, Elizabeth Sprecher via NABS-L wrote: > Hi All, > Could I set up a time with someone to work through understanding Audacity and using clips of sound? > I have an assignment to turn in this week and I don't have much time to spend playing with Audaction. Would sometime Tuesday, April 6th work? > Thanks > Elizabeth > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From rupasprech at att.net Mon Apr 5 17:12:25 2021 From: rupasprech at att.net (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 13:12:25 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help with Audacity and using Sound? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 17:15:00 2021 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 12:15:00 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Join the Outreach Dream Team! April committee Call Sunday the 11th at 8 PM EST Message-ID: Hey NABSters, We hope you’ve had a wonderful Easter weekend, full of chocolate, bunnies, and all the rest. We’re so excited that the reasons to celebrate on Sunday won’t stop yet as the next committee meeting of the NABS Outreach team will be taking place on Sunday, April 11th at 8 PM EST. We love to have you join us to discuss all things podcast, blog post, and more. Use the following info to hop on over: Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Meeting ID: 467 883 3687 One tap mobile +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown) +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago) As always, contact a member of the Outreach leadership team if you’ve got questions! Best, Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Rouse She/her/hers President | Iowa Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | NABS Outreach Committee Treasurer | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com 563-210-1854 From kinshuk.tella at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 13:30:12 2021 From: kinshuk.tella at gmail.com (Kinshuk Tella) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 09:30:12 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You Two Blind Brothers! Message-ID: Hey NABSters! Curious about what it's like being a blind entrepreneur? Interested in learning more about Two Blind Brothers, a nationally recognized clothing company? Come join the Ohio Association of Blind Students as we bring you an exciting event on Tuesday, April 13th at 7 pm Eastern! For our April meeting, we will be joined by Bradford and Bryan Manning, the founders of Two Blind Brothers, to discuss entrepreneurship, education, and leadership. If you want to learn more about our guests, we have linked some of their information below. Everyone is welcome to join us! The meeting will be April 13th at 7pm EST. The Zoom link is https://zoom.us/j/408185085 Here is an introduction video on Two Blind Brothers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mf2FcylPU. “We find it incredible that our vulnerabilities, our passions, and the most nuanced parts of ourselves are now scalable, whether it’s a small business or an organization that wants to help people. Knowing that your experience is now relevant to somebody else in the world because now you can actually connect with him or her is a powerful thing” -Bryan Manning -- Kinshuk Tella He/Him/His 937-708-9930 From rachelpavone at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 15:32:18 2021 From: rachelpavone at yahoo.com (Rachel Pavone) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 11:32:18 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] FW: [NFBMI-Talk] Fwd: FW: Virtual concert april 10 7:00 PM!! In-Reply-To: References: <000001d718e2$8e40dcd0$aac29670$@nfbmi.org> Message-ID: Hello all of my friends and family, I would like to let you know about a fun event that is happening this upcoming Saturday at 7pm. The Michigan Association of Blind Students is having a virtual concert. The cost is $5 to either come and listen to some great music or there is still time to participate and send in a recording of your music skills or talent. I hope that you all have a fantastic week and please come and support the students of the Michigan Association of Blind Students on April 10th at 7pm. Sincerely Rachel Pavone President Michigan Association of Blind Students for the National Federation of the Blind of Michigan Secretary Kalamazoo Chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of Michigan Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Taylor Arndt via NFBMI-Talk Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 11:53 PM To: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org Cc: Taylor Arndt Subject: [NFBMI-Talk] Fwd: FW: Virtual concert april 10 7:00 PM!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Taylor Arndt Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 10:58:26 -0400 Subject: FW: Virtual concert april 10 7:00 PM!! To: taylorarndt99 at gmail.com From: Taylor Arndt Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:23 PM To: 'mi-abs at nfbnet.org' Subject: Virtual concert april 10 7:00 PM!! Hi all, I am pleased to announce April 10 the Michigan Association of blind students is having a virtual concert at 7:00 PM eastern! This concert isn't just for students, but is open to all! The concert will be held over the zoom platform. The cost is $5 before the day of the event for both performers and attendees. On the day of the event, the fee is $8. We are looking for both attendees and participants. You don't want to miss this! We will have raffles and door prizes that will be cool! The money will be used to help students from advocacy , seminars, and scholarships. Zoom details will be sent the day of the event. To be a performer, please fill out the performer form . If you want to attend the event, please fill out this form . Thankyou Taylor Arndt -- Taylor _______________________________________________ NFBMI-Talk mailing list NFBMI-Talk at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmi-talk_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBMI-Talk: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmi-talk_nfbnet.org/rachelpavone%40yahoo.com From iliregoca at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 20:00:46 2021 From: iliregoca at gmail.com (iliregoca at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:00:46 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Louie Voice Control Message-ID: <002001d72b1f$890cffb0$9b26ff10$@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I hope you are all doing well. Back at the beginning of February, I heard about an app called Louie Voice Control which allows people who are blind or visually impaired to control apps like Uber, What's App, YouTube, make phone calls, and manage contacts using only voice commands. If you would like to see how Louie works, check out the link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0-y7087Kzg The developer of this app, Pramit, messaged me and he wanted to host a webinar to showcase the features of Louie. Louie is only available for Android users at this time, but when the iOS version is released, Pramit will host another webinar to showcase the features of the iOS version. The webinar that Pramit is hoping to conduct will take place on Thursday, April 8 at 9 PM Eastern Standard Time. Is there anybody on this e-mail list who uses an Android and would be interested in attending this webinar? If so, reply back to this e-mail so I can get a rough estimate of the number of people. If there is enough interest, I will send out the zoom link later in the week. Thank you, Ilire Goca From stanley7709 at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 21:22:43 2021 From: stanley7709 at gmail.com (Steve Cook) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 17:22:43 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Leadership Seminar Message-ID: <04ec01d72b2a$fb93fec0$f2bbfc40$@gmail.com> Hello All! The NFB of SC is holding our annual leadership seminar on Saturday, April 10 from 10 until 4 Eastern. All are welcome from everywhere! Please invite your members! I am excited about our presenters this year. Norma Crosby, President, NFB of Texas Adelmo Vigil, President, NFB of New Mexico Katie Keim, Second Vice President, NFB of Hawaii David DeNotaris, Skies the Limit Communication Eileen Rivera Ley, Blind Savvy Gary Wunder, Editor of the Braille Monitor We will be having at least four $50 gift card drawings throughout the seminar, must be present to win. To be entered, please register with David Houck at the Federation Center in Columbia by calling 803-254-3777 or emailing him at nfbsc at sc.rr.com Even if you are not a leader, this seminar will touch on topics for all to learn and take away. Everyone has the potential of being a leader. Please join us on zoom from 10-4 Eastern on Saturday, April 10. If you have additional questions about the seminar, please contact president, Jennifer Bazer at 803-960-9977 or email Jhipp25 at sc.rr.com Thank you all for sharing this invitation with your chapters, divisions, and affiliates. Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8032543777?pwd=QTVQd2RzN3l6QnNmZ0FmSnp6NG8vQT09 Meeting ID: 803 254 3777 Passcode: 124578 One tap mobile +19292056099,,8032543777# US (New York) Sincerely, Jennifer Bazer, President, NFB of SC 803-960-9977 Jennifer at successforlives.org Jhipp25 at sc.rr.com From kgarcia2432 at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 03:28:16 2021 From: kgarcia2432 at gmail.com (Kyle Garcia) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 20:28:16 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: Calling All Students to Diversity in STEM and Entrepreneurship! In-Reply-To: <029501d72b2b$789ecc60$69dc6520$@gmail.com> References: <029501d72b2b$789ecc60$69dc6520$@gmail.com> Message-ID: This looks like a great opportunity. Hoby is amazing and I highly recommend attending if you have the time. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Hoby via CABS-Talk Date: Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 8:11 PM Dear CABS, My name is Hoby Wedler and I’m a former student and member of CABS. I’m excited to be pairing up with the non-profit Donum Visi this Saturday, April 10 from 10 AM to 1 PM to host a speakers series all about diversity in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and entrepreneurship! We have some very exciting speakers including Dr. Mona Minkara, blind professor of bio engineering at Northeastern and blind architect Chris Downey. The event is free to attend and it’s all over Zoom! Anyone is welcome! Please find all details including time, date, and how to register in the attached flyer. Please direct any questions you have to me at: hobywedler at gmail.com Many thanks and I hope to see you Saturday! All best wishes, --Hoby Wedler P.S. If someone could please forward this on to the NABS list, I'd be truly grateful. Thank you in advance! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Karl =20-----=20Original=20Message=20----- From:=20Kinshuk=20Tella=20via=20NABS-L=20 References: <606d3054.1c69fb81.b7e57.9900@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5ba9d46f-f628-8812-5fc8-41323efcdc85@tysdomain.com> Thank you for pointing this out. I've given up trying to get people to realize how problematic FFB is, because they're quite invasive. Nothing was more telling than watching a company like Aira try to explain why FFB representation is on their board, and then make it sound like this is in the name of being inclusive of all ideas and outlooks. On 4/7/2021 12:08 AM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L wrote: > I'd just like to point out that Two Blind Brothers promote really > discusting ideas about blindness through their alliance with The > Foundation Fighting Blindness and through their own advertising. For > instance, this last holiday shopping season they had a promotion in > which people were supposed to engage in "blind shopping," which meant > give them money and have them send a random gift to the person you > selected (yknow because blindness equals ignorance) all to support > "finding the cure" because being blind sucks so much. > > Best, > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kinshuk Tella via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 09:30:12 -0400 > Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You > TwoBlind Brothers! > > Hey NABSters! > > Curious about what it's like being a blind entrepreneur? Interested in > learning more about Two Blind Brothers, a nationally recognized clothing > company? > > Come join the Ohio Association of Blind Students as we bring you an > exciting event on Tuesday, April 13th at 7 pm Eastern! For our April > meeting, we will be joined by Bradford and Bryan Manning, the founders of > Two Blind Brothers, to discuss entrepreneurship, education, and > leadership. > If you want to learn more about our guests, we have linked some of their > information below. > > Everyone is welcome to join us! > > The meeting will be April 13th at 7pm EST. The Zoom link is > https://zoom.us/j/408185085 > Here is an introduction video on Two Blind Brothers: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mf2FcylPU. > > �쏻e find it incredible that our vulnerabilities, our passions, and the > most > nuanced parts of ourselves are now scalable, whether it�셲 a small > business > or an organization that wants to help people. Knowing that your > experience > is now relevant to somebody else in the world because now you can > actually > connect with him or her is a powerful thing�� -Bryan Manning > > -- > Kinshuk Tella > He/Him/His > 937-708-9930 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com From hstaley at nfbtx.org Wed Apr 7 12:44:28 2021 From: hstaley at nfbtx.org (Harry Staley) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 07:44:28 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You TwoBlind Brothers! In-Reply-To: <606d3054.1c69fb81.b7e57.9900@mx.google.com> References: <606d3054.1c69fb81.b7e57.9900@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <404C1A65-FAB6-423B-9636-E1D4BDDCFF53@nfbtx.org> OMG their initial video is so cringe. I think that there may be better examples of entrepreneurs in our own organization.The first ten seconds say everything that I want to know about them and that company. Hard pass for me, thanks. Harry Staley Treasurer Texas Association of Blind Students 330-718-1876 Hstaley at nfbtx.org NFB San Antonio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NatlFederationOfTheBlindSATX/ NFB San Antonio Groupme: https://groupme.com/join_group/38340408/IUF3ab > On Apr 6, 2021, at 11:08 PM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L wrote: > > I'd just like to point out that Two Blind Brothers promote really discusting ideas about blindness through their alliance with The Foundation Fighting Blindness and through their own advertising. For instance, this last holiday shopping season they had a promotion in which people were supposed to engage in "blind shopping," which meant give them money and have them send a random gift to the person you selected (yknow because blindness equals ignorance) all to support "finding the cure" because being blind sucks so much. > > Best, > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kinshuk Tella via NABS-L To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Date sent: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 09:30:12 -0400 > Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You TwoBlind Brothers! > > Hey NABSters! > > Curious about what it's like being a blind entrepreneur? Interested in > learning more about Two Blind Brothers, a nationally recognized clothing > company? > > Come join the Ohio Association of Blind Students as we bring you an > exciting event on Tuesday, April 13th at 7 pm Eastern! For our April > meeting, we will be joined by Bradford and Bryan Manning, the founders of > Two Blind Brothers, to discuss entrepreneurship, education, and leadership. > If you want to learn more about our guests, we have linked some of their > information below. > > Everyone is welcome to join us! > > The meeting will be April 13th at 7pm EST. The Zoom link is > https://zoom.us/j/408185085 > Here is an introduction video on Two Blind Brothers: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mf2FcylPU. > > “We find it incredible that our vulnerabilities, our passions, and the most > nuanced parts of ourselves are now scalable, whether it’s a small business > or an organization that wants to help people. Knowing that your experience > is now relevant to somebody else in the world because now you can actually > connect with him or her is a powerful thing” -Bryan Manning > > -- > Kinshuk Tella > He/Him/His > 937-708-9930 > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hstaley%40nfbtx.org From caseyreyes25 at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 15:10:51 2021 From: caseyreyes25 at gmail.com (Casey Reyes) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 11:10:51 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Louie Voice Control In-Reply-To: <002001d72b1f$890cffb0$9b26ff10$@gmail.com> References: <002001d72b1f$890cffb0$9b26ff10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! I am interested in attending the weapon are. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 22:59 Ilire Goca via NABS-L wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I hope you are all doing well. Back at the beginning of February, I heard > about an app called Louie Voice Control which allows people who are blind > or > visually impaired to control apps like Uber, What's App, YouTube, make > phone > calls, and manage contacts using only voice commands. If you would like to > see how Louie works, check out the link below. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0-y7087Kzg > > The developer of this app, Pramit, messaged me and he wanted to host a > webinar to showcase the features of Louie. Louie is only available for > Android users at this time, but when the iOS version is released, Pramit > will host another webinar to showcase the features of the iOS version. The > webinar that Pramit is hoping to conduct will take place on Thursday, April > 8 at 9 PM Eastern Standard Time. Is there anybody on this e-mail list who > uses an Android and would be interested in attending this webinar? If so, > reply back to this e-mail so I can get a rough estimate of the number of > people. If there is enough interest, I will send out the zoom link later > in > the week. > > > > Thank you, > > Ilire Goca > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/caseyreyes25%40gmail.com > From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 17:33:55 2021 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:33:55 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You TwoBlind Brothers! In-Reply-To: <404C1A65-FAB6-423B-9636-E1D4BDDCFF53@nfbtx.org> References: <606d3054.1c69fb81.b7e57.9900@mx.google.com> <404C1A65-FAB6-423B-9636-E1D4BDDCFF53@nfbtx.org> Message-ID: Hi all, This video and the company seem to be super problematic. As someone mentioned, the sending of gifts without knowing what they are does not portray the blind experience at all. There is no description of the product, and the way the video talks about the product, it's like they're saying that looks don't matter. I'm definitely not a fashionista--I still wear my brother's old shorts on occasion--but I have a concept of visual stuff. I choose to prioritize comfort over visuals, but others do not. That needs to be respected. It also portrays someone as incapable of being independent ("I have a brother who helps me get through problems every day"). One person asks how he can play a sport, and the brother replies that "You just go bat at it". This does not reflect NFB philosophy, and is actually dangerous to those who believe in independence. This furthers the stereotype of blind people, and people with disabilities, needing help and being unable to achieve independence. Donating all funds to charities and science is very noble, but the question of how the company runs itself with no funding from the purchases is not answered. What foundations does the company donate to? There is no audible information about the price, or how to purchase, etc. There are no customer testimonials, aside from the founders. I would be mildly tempted into thinking that this might be some sort of scam. Then again, I'm a pessimist. Always open tohearing alternate perspectives though. Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) On 4/7/21, Harry Staley via NABS-L wrote: > OMG their initial video is so cringe. I think that there may be better > examples of entrepreneurs in our own organization.The first ten seconds say > everything that I want to know about them and that company. Hard pass for > me, thanks. > > Harry Staley > Treasurer > > Texas Association of Blind Students > > 330-718-1876 > Hstaley at nfbtx.org > > NFB San Antonio Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/NatlFederationOfTheBlindSATX/ > > NFB San Antonio Groupme: > https://groupme.com/join_group/38340408/IUF3ab > >> On Apr 6, 2021, at 11:08 PM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> I'd just like to point out that Two Blind Brothers promote really >> discusting ideas about blindness through their alliance with The >> Foundation Fighting Blindness and through their own advertising. For >> instance, this last holiday shopping season they had a promotion in which >> people were supposed to engage in "blind shopping," which meant give them >> money and have them send a random gift to the person you selected (yknow >> because blindness equals ignorance) all to support "finding the cure" >> because being blind sucks so much. >> >> Best, >> Karl >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Kinshuk Tella via NABS-L > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 09:30:12 -0400 >> Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You >> TwoBlind Brothers! >> >> Hey NABSters! >> >> Curious about what it's like being a blind entrepreneur? Interested in >> learning more about Two Blind Brothers, a nationally recognized clothing >> company? >> >> Come join the Ohio Association of Blind Students as we bring you an >> exciting event on Tuesday, April 13th at 7 pm Eastern! For our April >> meeting, we will be joined by Bradford and Bryan Manning, the founders of >> Two Blind Brothers, to discuss entrepreneurship, education, and >> leadership. >> If you want to learn more about our guests, we have linked some of their >> information below. >> >> Everyone is welcome to join us! >> >> The meeting will be April 13th at 7pm EST. The Zoom link is >> https://zoom.us/j/408185085 > >> Here is an introduction video on Two Blind Brothers: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mf2FcylPU. >> >> “We find it incredible that our vulnerabilities, our passions, and the >> most >> nuanced parts of ourselves are now scalable, whether it’s a small business >> or an organization that wants to help people. Knowing that your experience >> is now relevant to somebody else in the world because now you can actually >> connect with him or her is a powerful thing” -Bryan Manning >> >> -- >> Kinshuk Tella >> He/Him/His >> 937-708-9930 >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hstaley%40nfbtx.org > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From iliregoca at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 18:15:04 2021 From: iliregoca at gmail.com (iliregoca at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 14:15:04 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Louie Voice Control Zoom Link Message-ID: <000b01d72bd9$eee74330$ccb5c990$@gmail.com> Hello NABS, As a follow up to my e-mail yesterday, below is the zoom information if you are interested in attending a webinar which will discuss the features of Louie Voice Control for Android. Louie Voice Control allows people who are blind and visually impaired to control Uber, What's App, YouTube, make phone calls, and manage contacts using voice commands. The developer of this app will be hosting a webinar on Thursday, April 8 at 9 PM Eastern Standard Time. The app is only available for Android at this time, but everyone is welcome to attend of course. The developer will host another webinar when Louie is available for iOS. The zoom information is below: https://-us02web.zoom.us/j/-89353493519?pwd=VUNmT-1B6TTJsVTMzNFhlRVdlY-TlBQT 09 Meeting ID: 893 5349 3519 Passcode: 767814 Thank you, Ilire Goca From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Thu Apr 8 01:16:52 2021 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 01:16:52 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You TwoBlind Brothers! In-Reply-To: References: <606d3054.1c69fb81.b7e57.9900@mx.google.com> <404C1A65-FAB6-423B-9636-E1D4BDDCFF53@nfbtx.org> Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am not familiar with the Two Blind Brothers, but the information that has been laid out since the initial post by longtime members of our movement is certainly concerning. We are all at different phases of learning about our movement and its philosophy. We are also at different phases of learning about the lived experiences of blind people. Some of us come from cultures that have a good orientation toward understanding oppression, some of us come from cultures that actively coordinate the oppression of others, and some of us may be new to analyzing it. While I do not notice anything disrespectful in the posts so far, I feel a slight inclination that this conversation can be delicate, so please all be mindful of that as we continue. Sometimes, events get changed, speakers get changed, names get changed, etc. If it really is an ill-advised event, maybe it will get changed. In the meantime, we can and should talk often about our movement and its philosophy. Aloha, Justin Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury he/him/his Second Vice President | National Association of Blind Students    A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind (808) 797-8606 president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org If you need help with a current accessibility barrier in school, visit: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXoK5sWCpBjvAu4EMOANUufEoJPyUlu4QeJnMB6pIdeohmsg/viewform   If you have a story about an accessibility barrier you faced in higher education, please tell your story here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf68TacBetKMAHZcMhGJLmYgeWDIjjpSm9Sz1OUwYKxzsIEAg/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1 -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 1:34 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: Re: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You TwoBlind Brothers! Hi all, This video and the company seem to be super problematic. As someone mentioned, the sending of gifts without knowing what they are does not portray the blind experience at all. There is no description of the product, and the way the video talks about the product, it's like they're saying that looks don't matter. I'm definitely not a fashionista--I still wear my brother's old shorts on occasion--but I have a concept of visual stuff. I choose to prioritize comfort over visuals, but others do not. That needs to be respected. It also portrays someone as incapable of being independent ("I have a brother who helps me get through problems every day"). One person asks how he can play a sport, and the brother replies that "You just go bat at it". This does not reflect NFB philosophy, and is actually dangerous to those who believe in independence. This furthers the stereotype of blind people, and people with disabilities, needing help and being unable to achieve independence. Donating all funds to charities and science is very noble, but the question of how the company runs itself with no funding from the purchases is not answered. What foundations does the company donate to? There is no audible information about the price, or how to purchase, etc. There are no customer testimonials, aside from the founders. I would be mildly tempted into thinking that this might be some sort of scam. Then again, I'm a pessimist. Always open tohearing alternate perspectives though. Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) On 4/7/21, Harry Staley via NABS-L wrote: > OMG their initial video is so cringe. I think that there may be better > examples of entrepreneurs in our own organization.The first ten seconds say > everything that I want to know about them and that company. Hard pass for > me, thanks. > > Harry Staley > Treasurer > > Texas Association of Blind Students > > 330-718-1876 > Hstaley at nfbtx.org > > NFB San Antonio Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/NatlFederationOfTheBlindSATX/ > > NFB San Antonio Groupme: > https://groupme.com/join_group/38340408/IUF3ab > >> On Apr 6, 2021, at 11:08 PM, Karl Martin Adam via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> I'd just like to point out that Two Blind Brothers promote really >> discusting ideas about blindness through their alliance with The >> Foundation Fighting Blindness and through their own advertising. For >> instance, this last holiday shopping season they had a promotion in which >> people were supposed to engage in "blind shopping," which meant give them >> money and have them send a random gift to the person you selected (yknow >> because blindness equals ignorance) all to support "finding the cure" >> because being blind sucks so much. >> >> Best, >> Karl >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Kinshuk Tella via NABS-L > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Date sent: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 09:30:12 -0400 >> Subject: [NABS-L] The Ohio Association of Blind Students Brings You >> TwoBlind Brothers! >> >> Hey NABSters! >> >> Curious about what it's like being a blind entrepreneur? Interested in >> learning more about Two Blind Brothers, a nationally recognized clothing >> company? >> >> Come join the Ohio Association of Blind Students as we bring you an >> exciting event on Tuesday, April 13th at 7 pm Eastern! For our April >> meeting, we will be joined by Bradford and Bryan Manning, the founders of >> Two Blind Brothers, to discuss entrepreneurship, education, and >> leadership. >> If you want to learn more about our guests, we have linked some of their >> information below. >> >> Everyone is welcome to join us! >> >> The meeting will be April 13th at 7pm EST. The Zoom link is >> https://zoom.us/j/408185085 > >> Here is an introduction video on Two Blind Brothers: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mf2FcylPU. >> >> “We find it incredible that our vulnerabilities, our passions, and the >> most >> nuanced parts of ourselves are now scalable, whether it’s a small business >> or an organization that wants to help people. Knowing that your experience >> is now relevant to somebody else in the world because now you can actually >> connect with him or her is a powerful thing” -Bryan Manning >> >> -- >> Kinshuk Tella >> He/Him/His >> 937-708-9930 >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kmaent1%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hstaley%40nfbtx.org > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From grassflower111 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 01:21:31 2021 From: grassflower111 at gmail.com (Trinh Ha) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 20:21:31 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] accessible telehealth platforms? Message-ID: Hi everyone, hope you all are doing well. I am working on a marketing project for a class assignment and wonder if any of you are aware of any telehealth platforms that would be accessible with screen readers? Thank you in advance for any tips or suggestions. From personal.edward at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 02:43:13 2021 From: personal.edward at gmail.com (Edward Shaham) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:43:13 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] accessible telehealth platforms? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello. The app, Doctor on demand, is extremely accessible with voiceover on iOS. I hope this helps. Edward Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2021, at 9:45 PM, Trinh Ha via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, hope you all are doing well. I am working on a marketing > project for a class assignment and wonder if any of you are aware of > any telehealth platforms that would be accessible with screen readers? > Thank you in advance for any tips or suggestions. > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/personal.edward%40gmail.com From misokwak12 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 03:36:44 2021 From: misokwak12 at gmail.com (misokwak12 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 23:36:44 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] accessible telehealth platforms? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005401d72c28$72c0f040$5842d0c0$@gmail.com> Hello Trinh, I use an app called MyChart because that is what my primary doctor's office uses it, and I find it easy to use both on iPhone and PC with JAWS. Best, Miso -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Trinh Ha via NABS-L Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:22 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Trinh Ha Subject: [NABS-L] accessible telehealth platforms? Hi everyone, hope you all are doing well. I am working on a marketing project for a class assignment and wonder if any of you are aware of any telehealth platforms that would be accessible with screen readers? Thank you in advance for any tips or suggestions. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/misokwak12%40gmail.com From stenzellogan at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 15:56:49 2021 From: stenzellogan at gmail.com (Logan Stenzel) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 11:56:49 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Nuggets Recipe Submission REMINDER! Message-ID: Hey all, I don't know about everyone else, but I am always hungry, and I could really go for some NABS Nuggets right about now. That's why I need your help. The Fundraising Committee and Diversity and Inclusion Committee need recipe submissions for our cookbook! We are aiming to show off the authentic culinary creations of our membership. So if you have a recipe you want to share, submit it to the following form: https://forms.gle/F3fGbHsP2FUWqGoY8. Don't stress too much over what recipe you submit; if it is something you enjoy, submit it! If you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to reach out to me at stenzellogan at gmail.com. Sincerely, Logan Stenzel NABS Fundraising Committee Cochair From blind247365 at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 21:18:58 2021 From: blind247365 at gmail.com (Aaron Espinoza) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:18:58 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Books about NFB Members Recommendation Message-ID: Hello guys, What are some great books to read that are about NFB members for example Thunder Dog by Michael Hingson. Blind Ambition By Ever Lee Hairston From dsykora29 at gmail.com Fri Apr 9 16:18:33 2021 From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:18:33 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Zotero Message-ID: <0163F839-AE91-473A-B9AD-6FC1CCC94526@gmail.com> Hi everyone, has anyone used, or does anyone know about the accessibility of, the citation manager Zotero? I’m finding it a little difficult to learn how to use it with VoiceOver so I was wondering if anyone else has been able to use it efficiently. Thanks in advance for your help, Danielle Sent from my iPhone From zdreicer at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 03:56:51 2021 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 21:56:51 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Books about NFB Members Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anything written by Eric Weinhenmayer and I hope I spelled that correctly… he climbed Mt. Everest and kayaked the Grand and wrote books about them Sent from my Macbook Pro 13 > On Apr 8, 2021, at 15:18, Aaron Espinoza via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello guys, > > What are some great books to read that are about NFB members for example > > Thunder Dog by Michael Hingson. > > Blind Ambition By Ever Lee Hairston > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From hunterkuester2 at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 18:59:19 2021 From: hunterkuester2 at gmail.com (Hunter Kuester) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:59:19 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS fundraising committee needs you this Sunday 9 PM eastern 6 PM Pacific Message-ID: Happy weekend everybody, We hope this reminder finds you well. The NABS fundraising committee is requesting your presence this Sunday, April 11 at 9 PM Eastern 6 PM Pacific. We will be discussing everything from walkathon to T-shirts and we cannot forget about cookbook. We hope to see you there! Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j Meeting ID: 467 883 3687 One tap mobile +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown) +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago) Keep it classy, Hunter Kuester Co-chair NABS fundraising committee -- Hunter Kuester, Travel Assistant Blindness: Learning In New Dimensions, (BLIND) Inc. 100 East 22nd Street Minneapolis, MN 55404 (612) 872-0100 ext. 234 First Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students Cell: (920)-285-8530 hunterkuester2 at gmail.com LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT! From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Sat Apr 10 20:00:00 2021 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:00:00 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Inviting You to Share a Shower of Ideas this april with the NABS Outreach Committee! Message-ID: Hey NABSters! We all know that April showers are expected, so we’re channeling our inner weather predictor to encourage a flood of new and exciting ideas on this month’s Outreach Committee Call! We’d love for you to join us tomorrow evening at 8 PM EST to discuss all things podcast, blog, and beyond. Use the following info to join the convo, and don’t forget your rain jacket! Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Meeting ID: 467 883 3687 One tap mobile +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown) +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago) See you there! Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Rouse She/her/hers President | Iowa Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | NABS Outreach Committee Treasurer | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com 563-210-1854 From QSFord at outlook.com Sun Apr 11 16:58:37 2021 From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 16:58:37 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Maryland Association of blind students chill night Message-ID: Listen up, all across the land. You may be bored or you may be lonely, but have no fear, for Maryland chill hours here! audio charades is coming at you Wednesday, April 14 at 7 PM, The normalcy of chill hour is brought to you with a dramatic twist twistier then the twistiness of twizlers, more abrupt then the ending of the first hunger games movie, far more shocking then The lightning bolt scar on the forehead of one Harry Potter. Low effort and fun, audio charades is your chance for chill competition, low-key socializing, and quality entertainment. So stave off any form of FOMO next Wednesday by hanging with us, income ready to play. Written by the wonderful Shawn Abraham https://zoom.us/j/95606203998 “The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“ From jty727 at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 17:11:36 2021 From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 13:11:36 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee One Week Reminder Message-ID: <001201d72ef5$bb087d80$31197880$@gmail.com> Hi All, Hoping this message finds you all well! Please join us next Sunday, April 18 at 8pm eastern for the next Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee (LSAC) meeting. For this month's conversation, we will be discussing strategies how to keep our cool in the moment of advocating for ourselves. At times I'm sure we all have faced stressful or as some may also call them blood boiling moments while trying to advocate for our rights as blind people. This might happen with professors, in social gatherings, traveling in airports, train stations, etc. So we would like you to consider these stressful situations & how you dealt with them in the moment while they were happening and be willing to share the techniques that worked best for you to resolve them. It's our hope by holding this conversation during this month's LSAC call, we all can learn a new strategy to help us become greater self-advocates ensuring we as blind people have the same rights as others! The Zoom information to join us is the following: Join Zoom Link: https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 One Tap Mobile: +16468769923,,4678833687# Thanks & look forward to chatting with you all next Sunday at 8pm eastern! Justin Young Co-Chair, Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee, National Association of Blind Students Treasurer, National Federation of the Blind of New York State. Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of New York State, Rochester Chapter From stanley7709 at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 23:06:16 2021 From: stanley7709 at gmail.com (Steve Cook) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 19:06:16 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Last Call, Trivia Night Message-ID: <002501d72f27$47092290$d51b67b0$@gmail.com> Trivia Night April 16 In February we had a great time with everyone for Trivia Night! The National Federation of the Blind of SC will be having another Trivia Night on Friday April 16, 2021 at 8:00 PM eastern! You ask, who is invited? Well, let me give you a clue! If you are reading this then you are invited. We are asking everyone that plans to play to send an Email to cookcafe at sc.rr.com or call/text 803 260 1292 with your name and state. This will allow me to put everyone on a team in order to save time. Below are the different categories I have so far for Trivia Night! Landmarks Music NFB Sports NFB State Capitals TV US History Misc. Please let me know if you no longer want me to post messages like this to this list serve. Federation Center https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8032543777?pwd=QTVQd2RzN3l6QnNmZ0FmSnp6NG8vQT09 Meeting ID: 803 254 3777 Passcode: 124578 One tap mobile +19292056099,,8032543777# US (New York) +13017158592,,8032543777# US (Germantown) Dial by your location +1 929 205 6099 US (New York) Steve Cook District 2 State Board Member of the National Federation of the Blind of SC President of the Columbia chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of SC 1st Vice President of the Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC The National Federation of the Blind of SC owns and operates Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center. Below is a link to read more about Rocky Bottom and to make a reservation for a mountain retreat! Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center Please join the National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book at any of the below links! National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center South Carolina Association of Blind Students South Carolina Parents of Blind Children You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. From stanley7709 at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 23:07:14 2021 From: stanley7709 at gmail.com (Steve Cook) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 19:07:14 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Last Call, Trivia Night Message-ID: <003301d72f27$69714560$3c53d020$@gmail.com> Trivia Night April 16 In February we had a great time with everyone for Trivia Night! The National Federation of the Blind of SC will be having another Trivia Night on Friday April 16, 2021 at 8:00 PM eastern! You ask, who is invited? Well, let me give you a clue! If you are reading this then you are invited. We are asking everyone that plans to play to send an Email to cookcafe at sc.rr.com or call/text 803 260 1292 with your name and state. This will allow me to put everyone on a team in order to save time. Below are the different categories I have so far for Trivia Night! Landmarks Music NFB Sports NFB State Capitals TV US History Misc. Please let me know if you no longer want me to post messages like this to this list serve. Federation Center https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8032543777?pwd=QTVQd2RzN3l6QnNmZ0FmSnp6NG8vQT09 Meeting ID: 803 254 3777 Passcode: 124578 One tap mobile +19292056099,,8032543777# US (New York) +13017158592,,8032543777# US (Germantown) Dial by your location +1 929 205 6099 US (New York) Steve Cook District 2 State Board Member of the National Federation of the Blind of SC President of the Columbia chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of SC 1st Vice President of the Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC The National Federation of the Blind of SC owns and operates Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center. Below is a link to read more about Rocky Bottom and to make a reservation for a mountain retreat! Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center Please join the National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book at any of the below links! National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center South Carolina Association of Blind Students South Carolina Parents of Blind Children You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. From alishag.important2018 at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 02:29:03 2021 From: alishag.important2018 at gmail.com (Alisha Geary) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 21:29:03 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Check in Message-ID: Hey guys! I know I don't message here a lot in here but here i am again. Is anyone else feeling that spring semester drag? What do you guys do to stay motivated during burn out? How is everyone? Just simply checking in. If you want to chat, all of my info is in the signature. Have a good week. Kind regards, Alisha Email: alishag.important2018 at gmail.com Number 6157535221 Facebook: Twitter: https://twitter.com/BlindOneLives?s=09 My Tumblr Blog: http://blindonelives.tumblr.com From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Mon Apr 12 03:19:03 2021 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 03:19:03 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Healing Through Music: A Concert for Survivors Message-ID: Hi everyone, In case you missed it, earlier this weekend, there was a really nice concert for survivors of sexual abuse and misconduct within the National Federation of the Blind and our training centers. Wayne Pearcy put on this concert, and he took a few moments here and there to talk about healing and the power of coming forward. He made one comment that I found particularly valuable about taking the time to write out your story in its entirety, even if you don’t know what you’re going to do with it yet. I think I’m going to write down my story sometime soon. The prospect of doing something with it is still confusing and intimidating, but writing it down will get me one step closer. I really admire Wayne for coming forward. Here is the link to the concert: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBA0xBde0_0&feature=share Aloha, Justin Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury He/him/his Mobile: 808.797.8606 Email: 808salisbury at gmail.com ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 04:32:51 2021 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 21:32:51 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Keeping Up with CABS Message-ID: Dear friends, I missed the last email, but here’s a new edition. We’re gearing up for some fun events and fundraisers. There are two committee calls next Saturday—outreach at 4:00, and fundraising at 5:00 Pacific respectively. We have moved to Discord, so send me an email and I’ll get you the invite link. Perhaps more importantly, Lisamaria Martinez, the famous LM, will be doing a membership call on April 24th at 4:00 PM Pacific for us. We will be talking about consent and navigating relationships. This call is intended for students, so feel free to forward to students, and encourage students to join. Not sure how to ask someone on a date? Well, neither am I, so come learn with me. Maybe you’re more sophisticated, and have moved past this. This call will be guided by your questions, so reply to me or submit them via this anonymous, one-field Google form: https://forms.gle/dVuUTSY57XNnNJTE7 And here’s the Zoom info: Hi there, Cricket Bidleman is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://stanford.zoom.us/j/98178172488?pwd=TzlJWmpkc3RUczZFcko0QnN3TWN4dz09 Password: 851785 Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +18333021536,,98178172488# or +16507249799,,98178172488# Or Telephone: Dial: +1 650 724 9799 (US, Canada, Caribbean Toll) or +1 833 302 1536 (US, Canada, Caribbean Toll Free) Meeting ID: 981 7817 2488 Password: 851785 International numbers available: https://stanford.zoom.us/u/ahWKHQTIx Meeting ID: 981 7817 2488 Password: 851785 SIP: 98178172488 at zoomcrc.com Password: 851785 Best, Cricket (on behalf of the CABS board) -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) From matthewhgip at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 13:33:40 2021 From: matthewhgip at gmail.com (Matthew Gip) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:33:40 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] MNABS Monday Madness Internship Call, Tonight at 7PM Central Message-ID: Greetings all, Come join the Minnesota Association of Blind Students (MNABS) tonight, April 12th at 7PM central, as we will have a panel of students discussing their experiences doing an internship, their career path, and more! Topic: MNABS Monday Madness Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/92700794823?pwd=NkgrWnEyZE5xL2FuSG1qVVdNc3BDUT09 Meeting ID: 927 0079 4823 Passcode: 7ZiFp! One tap mobile +16513728299,,92700794823#,,,,*729734# US (Minnesota) +13017158592,,92700794823#,,,,*729734# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 651 372 8299 US (Minnesota) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 927 0079 4823 Passcode: 729734 Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/aboL6x891Z Join by SIP 92700794823 at zoomcrc.com Join by H.323 162.255.37.11 (US West) 162.255.36.11 (US East) 221.122.88.195 (China) 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai) 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad) 213.19.144.110 (Amsterdam Netherlands) 213.244.140.110 (Germany) 103.122.166.55 (Australia Sydney) 103.122.167.55 (Australia Melbourne) 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR) 149.137.40.110 (Singapore) 64.211.144.160 (Brazil) 69.174.57.160 (Canada Toronto) 65.39.152.160 (Canada Vancouver) 207.226.132.110 (Japan Tokyo) 149.137.24.110 (Japan Osaka) Meeting ID: 927 0079 4823 Passcode: 729734 Best, Matthew Gip From cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com Mon Apr 12 16:45:32 2021 From: cnusbaumnfb at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 12:45:32 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Healing Through Music: A Concert for Survivors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001e01d72fbb$41446470$c3cd2d50$@gmail.com> Hi Justin: Thanks for posting this moving expression of the need for healing and the power that music brings to that effort. I hope many of us will benefit from Wayne's unique contributions to the important dialogue taking place in our community, and that his talents (as well as the talents of many other Federationists) will serve as a catalyst for change in and out of the organization. In solidarity, Chris -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Justin Salisbury via NABS-L Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 11:19 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Justin Salisbury Subject: [NABS-L] Healing Through Music: A Concert for Survivors Hi everyone, In case you missed it, earlier this weekend, there was a really nice concert for survivors of sexual abuse and misconduct within the National Federation of the Blind and our training centers. Wayne Pearcy put on this concert, and he took a few moments here and there to talk about healing and the power of coming forward. He made one comment that I found particularly valuable about taking the time to write out your story in its entirety, even if you don’t know what you’re going to do with it yet. I think I’m going to write down my story sometime soon. The prospect of doing something with it is still confusing and intimidating, but writing it down will get me one step closer. I really admire Wayne for coming forward. Here is the link to the concert: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBA0xBde0_0&feature=share Aloha, Justin Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury He/him/his Mobile: 808.797.8606 Email: 808salisbury at gmail.com ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cnusbaumnfb%40gmail.com From rupasprech at att.net Mon Apr 12 18:06:12 2021 From: rupasprech at att.net (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:06:12 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Healing Through Music: A Concert for Survivors Message-ID: Hi, Justin, This concert was amazing. I wanted to reach out and tell you that I would love to be part of the NFB in using music to help others. Elizabeth On Apr 11, 2021 11:19 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > In case you missed it, earlier this weekend, there was a really nice concert for survivors of sexual abuse and misconduct within the National Federation of the Blind and our training centers. Wayne Pearcy put on this concert, and he took a few moments here and there to talk about healing and the power of coming forward. He made one comment that I found particularly valuable about taking the time to write out your story in its entirety, even if you don’t know what you’re going to do with it yet. > > I think I’m going to write down my story sometime soon. The prospect of doing something with it is still confusing and intimidating, but writing it down will get me one step closer. I really admire Wayne for coming forward. > > Here is the link to the concert: > > https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBA0xBde0_0&feature=share > > Aloha, > > Justin > > Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury > He/him/his > Mobile: 808.797.8606 > Email: 808salisbury at gmail.com > ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rupasprech%40att.net From jsoro824 at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 21:02:51 2021 From: jsoro824 at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:02:51 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality Message-ID: Hi, Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains to employ blind people. If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as adolescence. In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to equality. And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for those jobs... I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. You can read the entire post here: https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ From tyler at tysdomain.com Wed Apr 14 03:26:20 2021 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:26:20 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but I think there are a few points worth talking about. Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a sabbatical from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I realize that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this is simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different to enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with our peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering your life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who do dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations like the NFB and ACB. You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet us where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. While I understand that learning your technology is important, there are two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability to bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it was and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener wouldn't be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to lofty standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that we don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to be said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one is able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to compare us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person has to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn their technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting them in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > > Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it > makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal > opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe > > There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I > have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? > > I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the > subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and > entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer > groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains > to employ blind people. > > If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double > digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? > > The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that > do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest > rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the > inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem > reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, > hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as > adolescence. > > In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for > the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been > commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s > example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for > diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, > and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to > accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to > equality. > > And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. > She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for > those jobs... > > I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation > of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real > world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be > successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if > you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. > > You can read the entire post here: > > https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From stanley7709 at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 08:51:05 2021 From: stanley7709 at gmail.com (Steve Cook) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 04:51:05 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NFB of SC 2021 Scholarships Message-ID: <03f101d7310b$4e78f470$eb6add50$@gmail.com> Spring brings flowers, pollen, and the start of the NFB of SC Scholarship application season! With the state convention being August 20-22, 2021, the deadline for scholarship applications is 11:59 p.m. June 19, 2021. The committee will select the top three applicants, and they will be notified approximately one month prior to the state convention. The updated scholarship application is now available at www.nfbofsc.org. Please also remember that the scholarship program operates on donations exclusively. If you or your chapter would like to contribute a scholarship or make a donation to the Metro Fund, please get in touch with both me, Shannon Cook, (coffeequeensc1 at sc.rr.com or (803) 605-4250) and Valerie Warrington, NFB of SC Treasurer. Also, please help us get the word out about the program. If you or someone you know is in school full time, please encourage them to apply for a scholarship! Thank you. Shannon Cook Scholarship Committee Chairman Steve Cook District 2 State Board Member of the National Federation of the Blind of SC President of the Columbia chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of SC 1st Vice President of the Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC The National Federation of the Blind of SC owns and operates Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center. Below is a link to read more about Rocky Bottom and to make a reservation for a mountain retreat! Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center Please join the National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book at any of the below links! National Federation of the Blind of SC on Face Book Computer Science & Technology Division of the National Federation of the Blind of SC Rocky Bottom Retreat & Conference Center South Carolina Association of Blind Students South Carolina Parents of Blind Children You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. From jsoro824 at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 12:56:35 2021 From: jsoro824 at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 08:56:35 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> References: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Tyler, I appreciate the thoughtful feedback. I'll reply in kind, not to win you over, disagreement is a good thing, but to explain my rationale behind some of your points of contention. Taking a sabbatical from blindness advocacy in general does not mean people will stop advocating for things on the job. Sadly, sometimes advocacy has to be done so often that it feels like it becomes part of the job, but there's a difference between that individual level of advocacy and devoting countless hours to helping with the running of the organization. I'll grant you I should have been more clear with my wording. The 30 plus hours some of us put into our affiliates on a weekly basis, depending on the season, are hours some of us might consider pouring into other social causes to help along that normalization of blindness in the public eye. Your interpretation of my advice feels slightly dramatic, because one, we're assuming people will take the advice; and two, even if people take the advice, we're assuming no one will be left to pick up the slack. The NFB did not crumble when I disappeared for the better part of a decade. Though not unique to the NFB, we do too good of a job of taking hard workers and burning them out when we discover they are reliable. I never suggested we should just accept the sighted world for what it is and learn our technology to get by. In fact I slam the workplace for claiming to be diverse and inclusive when they habitually leave disabilities out of their equation. I am suggesting we need to meet the world halfway by learning the tools that will make us competitive in a world that is already skewed against blindness, and frankly, on the point of competitive marketability, it is advice that could equally apply to young sighted adults. I'm sorry you found the article discouraging and disappointing. The point was not to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. The point was to reiterate the dismal reality that a blind person could encounter if educators, blindness professionals, parents, and even consumer groups do not do their part to adequately prepare the up and coming generation for the challenges of the real world. I did not recommend anything I had not carried out myself. If you are disgusted by blind people holding other blind people to lofty standards, I have to wonder what keeps you in the NFB, because while I would not describe our standards as "lofty," I would describe our standards as unconventional compared to what the rest of the world would find feasible for blind people. In this context, I'm not concerned with people outside of our community. I'm concerned about the perpetual statistics that suggest our community continues to be held back. Indeed, everyone has a different set of abilities and experiences. This is largely why the article does not put the burden of responsibility on the individual but rather on their support systems. As long as we're going to talk about accepting people where they are, let's use this opportunity to emphasize the importance of doing more to be accommodating of blind people who live with secondary disabilities. Disagreements are healthy. Deliberate misrepresentations of facts are abhorrent. The article clearly states my ambitions are not other people's ambitions. In fact, I go on to defend people who choose not to aspire to taller responsibilities, provided this is a personal choice. No, sighted people do not have to devote hours of training to learn their technology. Then again, sighted people can quickly scan a screen and efficiently conceptualize how a user interface clicks together. You yourself admit some of us have to work extra hours to work around accessibility issues. That's not an unfair comparison of blind versus sighted. That's just facts as they currently stand. A person can always choose not to make the investment in time to properly learn a software, but their career potential will shift accordingly. This is no different for the prospects between those who choose to go to college and those who choose not to. You urge me to go be the change I want to see and to go help people. Rather than list my accomplishments and contributions to the community and make you look silly for making hasty assumptions about people you don't know, let's just say the article was motivated by a close, familiar, and frequent interaction with blind people inside and outside of the Federation. I like to run my mouth. This is true, but I can back up what I spout. That being said, I am perfectly willing to accept there are alternative views. Remember, I acknowledge these were just one guy's opinions, so consider this an open invitation for you to email me your own article outlining your advice to better prepare blind people for the real world. I will run it on my blog and give people the freedom to decide for themselves which philosophy makes the most sense for them. Respectfully, Joe On 4/13/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but I > think there are a few points worth talking about. > > Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a sabbatical > from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not > interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I realize > that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this is > simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to > advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different to > enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra > hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with our > peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off > into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me > that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering your > life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for > many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who do > dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is > this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations like > the NFB and ACB. > > You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet us > where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. > While I understand that learning your technology is important, there are > two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability to > bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on > the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it was > and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a > better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely > still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener wouldn't > be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. > > I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It > disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to lofty > standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that we > don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to be > said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, > and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't > there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many > characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a > group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in > reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one is > able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most > certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to compare > us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind > people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say > that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person has > to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn their > technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, > either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I > would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that > helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting them > in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. > > On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it >> makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal >> opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe >> >> There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I >> have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? >> >> I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the >> subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and >> entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer >> groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains >> to employ blind people. >> >> If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double >> digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? >> >> The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that >> do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest >> rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the >> inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem >> reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, >> hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as >> adolescence. >> >> In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for >> the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been >> commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s >> example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for >> diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, >> and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to >> accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to >> equality. >> >> And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. >> She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for >> those jobs... >> >> I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation >> of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real >> world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be >> successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if >> you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. >> >> You can read the entire post here: >> >> https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > > -- > > Take Care, > Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) > > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business > solutions. My personal site > My Linkedin > @Sorressean on Twitter > > > > From eschlenker at cox.net Wed Apr 14 13:22:59 2021 From: eschlenker at cox.net (Emily Schlenker) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 08:22:59 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> References: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Tyler, I second, third, and fourth exactly this. I have been told this all along my journey to get to pharmacy school, and it is only because I did not listen that I am here. I have also worked in some form for most of my years since age 16, so advocacy and productivity can definitely go hand-in-hand. you you won the Internet for me today. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L wrote: > > I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but I think there are a few points worth talking about. > > Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a sabbatical from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I realize that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this is simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different to enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with our peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering your life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who do dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations like the NFB and ACB. > > You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet us where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. While I understand that learning your technology is important, there are two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability to bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it was and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener wouldn't be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. > > I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to lofty standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that we don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to be said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one is able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to compare us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person has to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn their technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting them in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. > >> On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it >> makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal >> opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe >> >> There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I >> have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? >> >> I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the >> subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and >> entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer >> groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains >> to employ blind people. >> >> If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double >> digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? >> >> The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that >> do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest >> rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the >> inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem >> reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, >> hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as >> adolescence. >> >> In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for >> the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been >> commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s >> example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for >> diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, >> and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to >> accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to >> equality. >> >> And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. >> She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for >> those jobs... >> >> I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation >> of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real >> world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be >> successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if >> you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. >> >> You can read the entire post here: >> >> https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > > -- > > Take Care, > Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) > > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eschlenker%40cox.net From tyler at tysdomain.com Wed Apr 14 14:13:06 2021 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:13:06 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: References: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Joe: I will respond to a few of your points here. First, my membership to this organization has nothing to do with the standards people in the blind community, and blindness organizations set for others. We like to take very specific attributes: braille reader, good at travel, good with technology, can prepare a meal for x number of people and boil down the idea of "success" to how many of these boxes someone can check. It's easy for those who are successful to look down upon everyone lower down the ladder and tell them they need to find reality. In reality, this isn't the case. I strongly believe that these ideas and attitudes do much more damage to people who are trying to determine what they want in life than they help. There's nothing wrong with encouraging people, but I can personally say that it feels incredibly discouraging to be put in boxes and have to try to live up to the standards set by others in all areas. My standards for people are whatever those individuals want out of life, and whatever they can get at that time. I often wish that while "successful" blind people were trotted out in front of me while I was growing up and looking for answers to how I should progress, people spent less time talking about how well they progressed. This is less about talking about yourself and more about providing help, which I understand certainly takes more effort. It means shifting the generational hobby of complaining about the youngsters ahead of you to trying to be a positive influence. I saw a quote the other day that said something like mentoring is less about forcing people into your mold and more about understanding your mentee's goals and leveraging your lived experience and knowledge to help them get there. To be clear, this is about shifting the prospective from yourself to the true desire to help. I would say that I am doing well where I currently am; I graduated and have a job which I do well at. What I would also say though is that this was pushed partially by my own desire to grow, but secondly by the idea of "success" and what that means. I personally experienced and continue to experience mental health issues: depression, anxiety and plenty of triggers out of this, which I would not wish on anyone. So the real question is not what you can do to get to the dream land, but what you can do to be happy, and whether or not the ideas of success set by others are worth the fight. This is why I responded to your article; I want people to know that there are other options, and most importantly other outlooks. While I am humbled and honored by the thought of being featured on your blog, I will respectfully have to decline the offer of an article-writing pissing contest. I believe that there are more ways to spend my time that would lead to more tangible results for people. Secondly, although I have toiled through the salt mines and could brag about my battle scars, I do not believe that I should be telling blind people, or people of any group how best to live their life. I would instead suggest that people are provided with encouragement, solutions to individual problems, networking connections and resources to enable them to succeed. On 4/14/2021 8:56 AM, Joe Orozco wrote: > Tyler, > > I appreciate the thoughtful feedback. I'll reply in kind, not to win > you over, disagreement is a good thing, but to explain my rationale > behind some of your points of contention. > > Taking a sabbatical from blindness advocacy in general does not mean > people will stop advocating for things on the job. Sadly, sometimes > advocacy has to be done so often that it feels like it becomes part of > the job, but there's a difference between that individual level of > advocacy and devoting countless hours to helping with the running of > the organization. I'll grant you I should have been more clear with my > wording. The 30 plus hours some of us put into our affiliates on a > weekly basis, depending on the season, are hours some of us might > consider pouring into other social causes to help along that > normalization of blindness in the public eye. Your interpretation of > my advice feels slightly dramatic, because one, we're assuming people > will take the advice; and two, even if people take the advice, we're > assuming no one will be left to pick up the slack. The NFB did not > crumble when I disappeared for the better part of a decade. Though not > unique to the NFB, we do too good of a job of taking hard workers and > burning them out when we discover they are reliable. > > I never suggested we should just accept the sighted world for what it > is and learn our technology to get by. In fact I slam the workplace > for claiming to be diverse and inclusive when they habitually leave > disabilities out of their equation. I am suggesting we need to meet > the world halfway by learning the tools that will make us competitive > in a world that is already skewed against blindness, and frankly, on > the point of competitive marketability, it is advice that could > equally apply to young sighted adults. > > I'm sorry you found the article discouraging and disappointing. The > point was not to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. The point was to > reiterate the dismal reality that a blind person could encounter if > educators, blindness professionals, parents, and even consumer groups > do not do their part to adequately prepare the up and coming > generation for the challenges of the real world. I did not recommend > anything I had not carried out myself. If you are disgusted by blind > people holding other blind people to lofty standards, I have to wonder > what keeps you in the NFB, because while I would not describe our > standards as "lofty," I would describe our standards as unconventional > compared to what the rest of the world would find feasible for blind > people. In this context, I'm not concerned with people outside of our > community. I'm concerned about the perpetual statistics that suggest > our community continues to be held back. > > Indeed, everyone has a different set of abilities and experiences. > This is largely why the article does not put the burden of > responsibility on the individual but rather on their support systems. > As long as we're going to talk about accepting people where they are, > let's use this opportunity to emphasize the importance of doing more > to be accommodating of blind people who live with secondary > disabilities. > > Disagreements are healthy. Deliberate misrepresentations of facts are > abhorrent. The article clearly states my ambitions are not other > people's ambitions. In fact, I go on to defend people who choose not > to aspire to taller responsibilities, provided this is a personal > choice. > > No, sighted people do not have to devote hours of training to learn > their technology. Then again, sighted people can quickly scan a screen > and efficiently conceptualize how a user interface clicks together. > You yourself admit some of us have to work extra hours to work around > accessibility issues. That's not an unfair comparison of blind versus > sighted. That's just facts as they currently stand. A person can > always choose not to make the investment in time to properly learn a > software, but their career potential will shift accordingly. This is > no different for the prospects between those who choose to go to > college and those who choose not to. > > You urge me to go be the change I want to see and to go help people. > Rather than list my accomplishments and contributions to the community > and make you look silly for making hasty assumptions about people you > don't know, let's just say the article was motivated by a close, > familiar, and frequent interaction with blind people inside and > outside of the Federation. I like to run my mouth. This is true, but I > can back up what I spout. > > That being said, I am perfectly willing to accept there are > alternative views. Remember, I acknowledge these were just one guy's > opinions, so consider this an open invitation for you to email me your > own article outlining your advice to better prepare blind people for > the real world. I will run it on my blog and give people the freedom > to decide for themselves which philosophy makes the most sense for > them. > > Respectfully, > > Joe > > > On 4/13/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >> I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but I >> think there are a few points worth talking about. >> >> Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a sabbatical >> from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not >> interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I realize >> that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this is >> simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to >> advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different to >> enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra >> hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with our >> peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off >> into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me >> that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering your >> life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for >> many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who do >> dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is >> this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations like >> the NFB and ACB. >> >> You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet us >> where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. >> While I understand that learning your technology is important, there are >> two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability to >> bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on >> the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it was >> and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a >> better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely >> still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener wouldn't >> be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. >> >> I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It >> disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to lofty >> standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that we >> don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to be >> said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, >> and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't >> there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many >> characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a >> group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in >> reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one is >> able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most >> certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to compare >> us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind >> people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say >> that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person has >> to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn their >> technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, >> either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I >> would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that >> helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting them >> in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. >> >> On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it >>> makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal >>> opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe >>> >>> There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I >>> have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? >>> >>> I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the >>> subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and >>> entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer >>> groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains >>> to employ blind people. >>> >>> If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double >>> digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? >>> >>> The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that >>> do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest >>> rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the >>> inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem >>> reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, >>> hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as >>> adolescence. >>> >>> In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for >>> the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been >>> commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s >>> example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for >>> diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, >>> and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to >>> accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to >>> equality. >>> >>> And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. >>> She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for >>> those jobs... >>> >>> I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation >>> of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real >>> world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be >>> successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if >>> you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. >>> >>> You can read the entire post here: >>> >>> https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com >> >> -- >> >> Take Care, >> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) >> >> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business >> solutions. My personal site >> My Linkedin >> @Sorressean on Twitter >> >> >> >> -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From kiehley at mail.uc.edu Wed Apr 14 15:17:48 2021 From: kiehley at mail.uc.edu (Kiehl, Emily (kiehley)) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:17:48 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> References: , <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Hello, I had to read your article a few times through before composing an adequate response. While I understand your focus on providing a “realist’s” view, it seems like you are coming from a place of denunciation and stigmatization. As a young blind woman doing the best I can with the cards I’ve been dealt, I took the criticism in your article personally. It is incorrect to assume that all blind people are in the same position and that we all are at fault for challenges that we encounter. I agree with you that we are competing in a sighted world and that braille and JAWS are incredibly important tools, but those skills take time to learn. Everybody has a different story and although blindness is not what holds us back, in reality, sometimes it slows us down. In response to your thoughts on blind people in the workplace, we can’t focus on what should or shouldn’t be, we can only work from the current situation. The NFB isn’t an accurate sample of the blind population in the US, and so the percentage of us that focus on improving life for those in our community (vocational rehab, TVIs, or leaders in blindness organizations) is going to be skewed. The vast majority of my blind peers study something unrelated to blindness. I am in IT, one of my best friends is studying environmental science, a classmate is studying neurology, and I know people in and outside of the NFB in everything from law to sports administration to engineering. It is easy to go about life without meeting another blind person outside of a blindness organization, but we’re there. I promise. Lastly, I want to address your comment about college being much easier now than it ever has been. I had to laugh this one off before it made my blood boil. College isn’t a walk in the park. College is more like running a marathon through a park that’s on fire while being chased by wolves. And doing that blind will never be easy. I appreciate your time and your willingness to share your thoughts. I’d love to continue the conversation. Thank you, Emily Kiehl University of Cincinnati | 2023 Information Technology - Networking National Association of Blind Students - Ohio 813-394-2720 ________________________________ From: NABS-L on behalf of Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:26 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Littlefield, Tyler Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but I think there are a few points worth talking about. Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a sabbatical from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I realize that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this is simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different to enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with our peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering your life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who do dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations like the NFB and ACB. You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet us where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. While I understand that learning your technology is important, there are two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability to bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it was and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener wouldn't be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to lofty standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that we don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to be said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one is able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to compare us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person has to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn their technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting them in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: > Hi, > > Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it > makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal > opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe > > There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I > have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? > > I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the > subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and > entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer > groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains > to employ blind people. > > If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double > digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? > > The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that > do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest > rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the > inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem > reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, > hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as > adolescence. > > In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for > the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been > commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s > example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for > diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, > and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to > accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to > equality. > > And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. > She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for > those jobs... > > I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation > of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real > world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be > successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if > you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. > > You can read the entire post here: > > https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kiehley%40mail.uc.edu From jsoro824 at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 15:46:45 2021 From: jsoro824 at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:46:45 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: References: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Tyler, I'm sorry you took my invitation to lay out your position as an "article-writing pissing contest." From my perspective, that sort of response speaks more deeply to what you feel about me as an individual than you might about the views expressed. Ironically, I don't think we disagree anywhere as vehemently as you want to convince yourself. For example, we fully agree that helping people should be about helping them meet their goals. My blog, taken as a whole, is about helping people, blind or sighted, become self-sufficient. It's less about prescription and more about creating options. And, sure, a lot of my advice will be drawn from personal experience; therefore, my advice will be biased, but I trust people's intelligence to take the advice, or not, and if they take it, to give it the value they paid for. This is not all that different from your philosophy. I know we all want to believe our beliefs are neutral. They are not, largely because of the very same experiences you point out that shape us, but good thing we have free agency to adopt what makes sense for us and dismiss the rest. It's flattering you believe I have so much influence over the blindness community that one article could have a detrimental effect on people's livelihood. Alas, I do not. And a good thing too. Long after people forget about this article, I am going to continue compounding my personal success, and if someone out there took my advice to compound their own, so much the better. Joe On 4/14/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Joe: > I will respond to a few of your points here. > First, my membership to this organization has nothing to do with the > standards people in the blind community, and blindness organizations set > for others. We like to take very specific attributes: braille reader, > good at travel, good with technology, can prepare a meal for x number of > people and boil down the idea of "success" to how many of these boxes > someone can check. It's easy for those who are successful to look down > upon everyone lower down the ladder and tell them they need to find > reality. In reality, this isn't the case. I strongly believe that these > ideas and attitudes do much more damage to people who are trying to > determine what they want in life than they help. There's nothing wrong > with encouraging people, but I can personally say that it feels > incredibly discouraging to be put in boxes and have to try to live up to > the standards set by others in all areas. My standards for people are > whatever those individuals want out of life, and whatever they can get > at that time. > > I often wish that while "successful" blind people were trotted out in > front of me while I was growing up and looking for answers to how I > should progress, people spent less time talking about how well they > progressed. This is less about talking about yourself and more about > providing help, which I understand certainly takes more effort. It means > shifting the generational hobby of complaining about the youngsters > ahead of you to trying to be a positive influence. I saw a quote the > other day that said something like mentoring is less about forcing > people into your mold and more about understanding your mentee's goals > and leveraging your lived experience and knowledge to help them get > there. To be clear, this is about shifting the prospective from yourself > to the true desire to help. > > I would say that I am doing well where I currently am; I graduated and > have a job which I do well at. What I would also say though is that this > was pushed partially by my own desire to grow, but secondly by the idea > of "success" and what that means. I personally experienced and continue > to experience mental health issues: depression, anxiety and plenty of > triggers out of this, which I would not wish on anyone. So the real > question is not what you can do to get to the dream land, but what you > can do to be happy, and whether or not the ideas of success set by > others are worth the fight. This is why I responded to your article; I > want people to know that there are other options, and most importantly > other outlooks. > > While I am humbled and honored by the thought of being featured on your > blog, I will respectfully have to decline the offer of an > article-writing pissing contest. I believe that there are more ways to > spend my time that would lead to more tangible results for people. > Secondly, although I have toiled through the salt mines and could brag > about my battle scars, I do not believe that I should be telling blind > people, or people of any group how best to live their life. I would > instead suggest that people are provided with encouragement, solutions > to individual problems, networking connections and resources to enable > them to succeed. > > On 4/14/2021 8:56 AM, Joe Orozco wrote: >> Tyler, >> >> I appreciate the thoughtful feedback. I'll reply in kind, not to win >> you over, disagreement is a good thing, but to explain my rationale >> behind some of your points of contention. >> >> Taking a sabbatical from blindness advocacy in general does not mean >> people will stop advocating for things on the job. Sadly, sometimes >> advocacy has to be done so often that it feels like it becomes part of >> the job, but there's a difference between that individual level of >> advocacy and devoting countless hours to helping with the running of >> the organization. I'll grant you I should have been more clear with my >> wording. The 30 plus hours some of us put into our affiliates on a >> weekly basis, depending on the season, are hours some of us might >> consider pouring into other social causes to help along that >> normalization of blindness in the public eye. Your interpretation of >> my advice feels slightly dramatic, because one, we're assuming people >> will take the advice; and two, even if people take the advice, we're >> assuming no one will be left to pick up the slack. The NFB did not >> crumble when I disappeared for the better part of a decade. Though not >> unique to the NFB, we do too good of a job of taking hard workers and >> burning them out when we discover they are reliable. >> >> I never suggested we should just accept the sighted world for what it >> is and learn our technology to get by. In fact I slam the workplace >> for claiming to be diverse and inclusive when they habitually leave >> disabilities out of their equation. I am suggesting we need to meet >> the world halfway by learning the tools that will make us competitive >> in a world that is already skewed against blindness, and frankly, on >> the point of competitive marketability, it is advice that could >> equally apply to young sighted adults. >> >> I'm sorry you found the article discouraging and disappointing. The >> point was not to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. The point was to >> reiterate the dismal reality that a blind person could encounter if >> educators, blindness professionals, parents, and even consumer groups >> do not do their part to adequately prepare the up and coming >> generation for the challenges of the real world. I did not recommend >> anything I had not carried out myself. If you are disgusted by blind >> people holding other blind people to lofty standards, I have to wonder >> what keeps you in the NFB, because while I would not describe our >> standards as "lofty," I would describe our standards as unconventional >> compared to what the rest of the world would find feasible for blind >> people. In this context, I'm not concerned with people outside of our >> community. I'm concerned about the perpetual statistics that suggest >> our community continues to be held back. >> >> Indeed, everyone has a different set of abilities and experiences. >> This is largely why the article does not put the burden of >> responsibility on the individual but rather on their support systems. >> As long as we're going to talk about accepting people where they are, >> let's use this opportunity to emphasize the importance of doing more >> to be accommodating of blind people who live with secondary >> disabilities. >> >> Disagreements are healthy. Deliberate misrepresentations of facts are >> abhorrent. The article clearly states my ambitions are not other >> people's ambitions. In fact, I go on to defend people who choose not >> to aspire to taller responsibilities, provided this is a personal >> choice. >> >> No, sighted people do not have to devote hours of training to learn >> their technology. Then again, sighted people can quickly scan a screen >> and efficiently conceptualize how a user interface clicks together. >> You yourself admit some of us have to work extra hours to work around >> accessibility issues. That's not an unfair comparison of blind versus >> sighted. That's just facts as they currently stand. A person can >> always choose not to make the investment in time to properly learn a >> software, but their career potential will shift accordingly. This is >> no different for the prospects between those who choose to go to >> college and those who choose not to. >> >> You urge me to go be the change I want to see and to go help people. >> Rather than list my accomplishments and contributions to the community >> and make you look silly for making hasty assumptions about people you >> don't know, let's just say the article was motivated by a close, >> familiar, and frequent interaction with blind people inside and >> outside of the Federation. I like to run my mouth. This is true, but I >> can back up what I spout. >> >> That being said, I am perfectly willing to accept there are >> alternative views. Remember, I acknowledge these were just one guy's >> opinions, so consider this an open invitation for you to email me your >> own article outlining your advice to better prepare blind people for >> the real world. I will run it on my blog and give people the freedom >> to decide for themselves which philosophy makes the most sense for >> them. >> >> Respectfully, >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 4/13/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >>> I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but I >>> think there are a few points worth talking about. >>> >>> Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a sabbatical >>> from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not >>> interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I realize >>> that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this is >>> simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to >>> advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different to >>> enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra >>> hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with our >>> peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off >>> into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me >>> that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering your >>> life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for >>> many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who do >>> dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is >>> this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations like >>> the NFB and ACB. >>> >>> You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet us >>> where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. >>> While I understand that learning your technology is important, there are >>> two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability to >>> bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on >>> the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it was >>> and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a >>> better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely >>> still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener wouldn't >>> be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. >>> >>> I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It >>> disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to lofty >>> standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that we >>> don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to be >>> said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, >>> and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't >>> there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many >>> characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a >>> group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in >>> reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one is >>> able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most >>> certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to compare >>> us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind >>> people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say >>> that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person has >>> to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn their >>> technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, >>> either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I >>> would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that >>> helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting them >>> in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. >>> >>> On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it >>>> makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal >>>> opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe >>>> >>>> There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I >>>> have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? >>>> >>>> I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the >>>> subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and >>>> entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer >>>> groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains >>>> to employ blind people. >>>> >>>> If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double >>>> digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? >>>> >>>> The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that >>>> do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest >>>> rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the >>>> inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem >>>> reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, >>>> hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as >>>> adolescence. >>>> >>>> In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for >>>> the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been >>>> commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s >>>> example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for >>>> diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, >>>> and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to >>>> accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to >>>> equality. >>>> >>>> And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. >>>> She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for >>>> those jobs... >>>> >>>> I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation >>>> of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real >>>> world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be >>>> successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if >>>> you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. >>>> >>>> You can read the entire post here: >>>> >>>> https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Take Care, >>> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) >>> >>> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business >>> solutions. My personal site >>> My Linkedin >>> @Sorressean on Twitter >>> >>> >>> >>> > > -- > > Take Care, > Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) > > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business > solutions. My personal site > My Linkedin > @Sorressean on Twitter > > > > From tyler at tysdomain.com Wed Apr 14 16:20:46 2021 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:20:46 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: References: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: <907decd9-e8b4-5871-8913-96ed43d3a661@tysdomain.com> Joe: It's not that I believe you yourself are so powerful to influence people. My point here is that this article, your views and the ideas you are putting out here are detrimental to people. As you've heard and perhaps read, stating that college is easy makes people feel as if their college experience doesn't count for much, or that they're doing something wrong. You are pushing a narrative that is vastly different from the lived experiences of many on this list. We are often told that things should be easier and therefore we should not be complaining, or that we should be doing more, or that the issues we experience are not because we are blind, but because perhaps we are lazy or doing something wrong. This is the exact issue that many of those facing mental health issues deal with daily, and many times these problems are compounded by points I have previously made. When you think that you are to blame, you don't reach out for help, you don't try to find information or you don't try to connect with others. So, in short you yourself are not responsible for this, nor is any single person. This article is simply one more weight, one more instance of people being told that they're the problem. On 4/14/2021 11:46 AM, Joe Orozco wrote: > Tyler, > > I'm sorry you took my invitation to lay out your position as an > "article-writing pissing contest." From my perspective, that sort of > response speaks more deeply to what you feel about me as an individual > than you might about the views expressed. Ironically, I don't think we > disagree anywhere as vehemently as you want to convince yourself. > > For example, we fully agree that helping people should be about > helping them meet their goals. My blog, taken as a whole, is about > helping people, blind or sighted, become self-sufficient. It's less > about prescription and more about creating options. And, sure, a lot > of my advice will be drawn from personal experience; therefore, my > advice will be biased, but I trust people's intelligence to take the > advice, or not, and if they take it, to give it the value they paid > for. This is not all that different from your philosophy. I know we > all want to believe our beliefs are neutral. They are not, largely > because of the very same experiences you point out that shape us, but > good thing we have free agency to adopt what makes sense for us and > dismiss the rest. > > It's flattering you believe I have so much influence over the > blindness community that one article could have a detrimental effect > on people's livelihood. Alas, I do not. And a good thing too. Long > after people forget about this article, I am going to continue > compounding my personal success, and if someone out there took my > advice to compound their own, so much the better. > > Joe > > On 4/14/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >> Joe: >> I will respond to a few of your points here. >> First, my membership to this organization has nothing to do with the >> standards people in the blind community, and blindness organizations set >> for others. We like to take very specific attributes: braille reader, >> good at travel, good with technology, can prepare a meal for x number of >> people and boil down the idea of "success" to how many of these boxes >> someone can check. It's easy for those who are successful to look down >> upon everyone lower down the ladder and tell them they need to find >> reality. In reality, this isn't the case. I strongly believe that these >> ideas and attitudes do much more damage to people who are trying to >> determine what they want in life than they help. There's nothing wrong >> with encouraging people, but I can personally say that it feels >> incredibly discouraging to be put in boxes and have to try to live up to >> the standards set by others in all areas. My standards for people are >> whatever those individuals want out of life, and whatever they can get >> at that time. >> >> I often wish that while "successful" blind people were trotted out in >> front of me while I was growing up and looking for answers to how I >> should progress, people spent less time talking about how well they >> progressed. This is less about talking about yourself and more about >> providing help, which I understand certainly takes more effort. It means >> shifting the generational hobby of complaining about the youngsters >> ahead of you to trying to be a positive influence. I saw a quote the >> other day that said something like mentoring is less about forcing >> people into your mold and more about understanding your mentee's goals >> and leveraging your lived experience and knowledge to help them get >> there. To be clear, this is about shifting the prospective from yourself >> to the true desire to help. >> >> I would say that I am doing well where I currently am; I graduated and >> have a job which I do well at. What I would also say though is that this >> was pushed partially by my own desire to grow, but secondly by the idea >> of "success" and what that means. I personally experienced and continue >> to experience mental health issues: depression, anxiety and plenty of >> triggers out of this, which I would not wish on anyone. So the real >> question is not what you can do to get to the dream land, but what you >> can do to be happy, and whether or not the ideas of success set by >> others are worth the fight. This is why I responded to your article; I >> want people to know that there are other options, and most importantly >> other outlooks. >> >> While I am humbled and honored by the thought of being featured on your >> blog, I will respectfully have to decline the offer of an >> article-writing pissing contest. I believe that there are more ways to >> spend my time that would lead to more tangible results for people. >> Secondly, although I have toiled through the salt mines and could brag >> about my battle scars, I do not believe that I should be telling blind >> people, or people of any group how best to live their life. I would >> instead suggest that people are provided with encouragement, solutions >> to individual problems, networking connections and resources to enable >> them to succeed. >> >> On 4/14/2021 8:56 AM, Joe Orozco wrote: >>> Tyler, >>> >>> I appreciate the thoughtful feedback. I'll reply in kind, not to win >>> you over, disagreement is a good thing, but to explain my rationale >>> behind some of your points of contention. >>> >>> Taking a sabbatical from blindness advocacy in general does not mean >>> people will stop advocating for things on the job. Sadly, sometimes >>> advocacy has to be done so often that it feels like it becomes part of >>> the job, but there's a difference between that individual level of >>> advocacy and devoting countless hours to helping with the running of >>> the organization. I'll grant you I should have been more clear with my >>> wording. The 30 plus hours some of us put into our affiliates on a >>> weekly basis, depending on the season, are hours some of us might >>> consider pouring into other social causes to help along that >>> normalization of blindness in the public eye. Your interpretation of >>> my advice feels slightly dramatic, because one, we're assuming people >>> will take the advice; and two, even if people take the advice, we're >>> assuming no one will be left to pick up the slack. The NFB did not >>> crumble when I disappeared for the better part of a decade. Though not >>> unique to the NFB, we do too good of a job of taking hard workers and >>> burning them out when we discover they are reliable. >>> >>> I never suggested we should just accept the sighted world for what it >>> is and learn our technology to get by. In fact I slam the workplace >>> for claiming to be diverse and inclusive when they habitually leave >>> disabilities out of their equation. I am suggesting we need to meet >>> the world halfway by learning the tools that will make us competitive >>> in a world that is already skewed against blindness, and frankly, on >>> the point of competitive marketability, it is advice that could >>> equally apply to young sighted adults. >>> >>> I'm sorry you found the article discouraging and disappointing. The >>> point was not to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. The point was to >>> reiterate the dismal reality that a blind person could encounter if >>> educators, blindness professionals, parents, and even consumer groups >>> do not do their part to adequately prepare the up and coming >>> generation for the challenges of the real world. I did not recommend >>> anything I had not carried out myself. If you are disgusted by blind >>> people holding other blind people to lofty standards, I have to wonder >>> what keeps you in the NFB, because while I would not describe our >>> standards as "lofty," I would describe our standards as unconventional >>> compared to what the rest of the world would find feasible for blind >>> people. In this context, I'm not concerned with people outside of our >>> community. I'm concerned about the perpetual statistics that suggest >>> our community continues to be held back. >>> >>> Indeed, everyone has a different set of abilities and experiences. >>> This is largely why the article does not put the burden of >>> responsibility on the individual but rather on their support systems. >>> As long as we're going to talk about accepting people where they are, >>> let's use this opportunity to emphasize the importance of doing more >>> to be accommodating of blind people who live with secondary >>> disabilities. >>> >>> Disagreements are healthy. Deliberate misrepresentations of facts are >>> abhorrent. The article clearly states my ambitions are not other >>> people's ambitions. In fact, I go on to defend people who choose not >>> to aspire to taller responsibilities, provided this is a personal >>> choice. >>> >>> No, sighted people do not have to devote hours of training to learn >>> their technology. Then again, sighted people can quickly scan a screen >>> and efficiently conceptualize how a user interface clicks together. >>> You yourself admit some of us have to work extra hours to work around >>> accessibility issues. That's not an unfair comparison of blind versus >>> sighted. That's just facts as they currently stand. A person can >>> always choose not to make the investment in time to properly learn a >>> software, but their career potential will shift accordingly. This is >>> no different for the prospects between those who choose to go to >>> college and those who choose not to. >>> >>> You urge me to go be the change I want to see and to go help people. >>> Rather than list my accomplishments and contributions to the community >>> and make you look silly for making hasty assumptions about people you >>> don't know, let's just say the article was motivated by a close, >>> familiar, and frequent interaction with blind people inside and >>> outside of the Federation. I like to run my mouth. This is true, but I >>> can back up what I spout. >>> >>> That being said, I am perfectly willing to accept there are >>> alternative views. Remember, I acknowledge these were just one guy's >>> opinions, so consider this an open invitation for you to email me your >>> own article outlining your advice to better prepare blind people for >>> the real world. I will run it on my blog and give people the freedom >>> to decide for themselves which philosophy makes the most sense for >>> them. >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> On 4/13/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >>>> I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but I >>>> think there are a few points worth talking about. >>>> >>>> Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a sabbatical >>>> from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not >>>> interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I realize >>>> that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this is >>>> simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to >>>> advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different to >>>> enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra >>>> hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with our >>>> peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off >>>> into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me >>>> that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering your >>>> life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for >>>> many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who do >>>> dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is >>>> this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations like >>>> the NFB and ACB. >>>> >>>> You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet us >>>> where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. >>>> While I understand that learning your technology is important, there are >>>> two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability to >>>> bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on >>>> the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it was >>>> and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a >>>> better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely >>>> still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener wouldn't >>>> be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. >>>> >>>> I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It >>>> disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to lofty >>>> standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that we >>>> don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to be >>>> said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, >>>> and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't >>>> there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many >>>> characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a >>>> group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in >>>> reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one is >>>> able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most >>>> certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to compare >>>> us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind >>>> people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say >>>> that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person has >>>> to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn their >>>> technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, >>>> either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I >>>> would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that >>>> helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting them >>>> in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. >>>> >>>> On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it >>>>> makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal >>>>> opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe >>>>> >>>>> There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I >>>>> have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? >>>>> >>>>> I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the >>>>> subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and >>>>> entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer >>>>> groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains >>>>> to employ blind people. >>>>> >>>>> If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double >>>>> digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? >>>>> >>>>> The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that >>>>> do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest >>>>> rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the >>>>> inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem >>>>> reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, >>>>> hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as >>>>> adolescence. >>>>> >>>>> In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for >>>>> the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been >>>>> commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s >>>>> example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for >>>>> diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, >>>>> and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to >>>>> accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to >>>>> equality. >>>>> >>>>> And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. >>>>> She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for >>>>> those jobs... >>>>> >>>>> I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation >>>>> of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real >>>>> world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be >>>>> successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if >>>>> you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. >>>>> >>>>> You can read the entire post here: >>>>> >>>>> https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> NABS-L: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Take Care, >>>> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) >>>> >>>> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business >>>> solutions. My personal site >>>> My Linkedin >>>> @Sorressean on Twitter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- >> >> Take Care, >> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) >> >> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business >> solutions. My personal site >> My Linkedin >> @Sorressean on Twitter >> >> >> >> -- Take Care, Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business solutions. My personal site My Linkedin @Sorressean on Twitter From jhipp25 at sc.rr.com Wed Apr 14 17:15:38 2021 From: jhipp25 at sc.rr.com (Jennifer Bazer) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 13:15:38 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Summer time Positions Available, National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina, Successful Transitions Message-ID: <000201d73151$ca3d3580$5eb7a080$@sc.rr.com> Summer time positions available with Successful Transitions, a non-profit program under the National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina (NFBSC). We provide free pre-employment transition services to blind students ages 13 to 21. Looking for positive role models for blind children and youth. 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If you have questions, please contact Jennifer Bazer, Program Director at 803-960-9977 or Jennifer at successforlives.org _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jhipp25%40sc.rr.com From kiehley at mail.uc.edu Wed Apr 14 18:19:31 2021 From: kiehley at mail.uc.edu (Kiehl, Emily (kiehley)) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:19:31 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I had to read your article a few times through before composing an adequate response. While I understand your focus on providing a “realist’s” view, it seems like you are coming from a place of denunciation and stigmatization. As a young blind woman doing the best I can with the cards I’ve been dealt, I took the criticism in your article personally. It is incorrect to assume that all blind people are in the same position and that we all are at fault for challenges that we encounter. I agree with you that we are competing in a sighted world and that braille and JAWS are incredibly important tools, but those skills take time to learn. Everybody has a different story and although blindness is not what holds us back, in reality, sometimes it slows us down. In response to your thoughts on blind people in the workplace, we can’t focus on what should or shouldn’t be, we can only work from the current situation. The NFB isn’t an accurate sample of the blind population in the US, and so the percentage of us that focus on improving life for those in our community (vocational rehab, TVIs, or leaders in blindness organizations) is going to be skewed. The vast majority of my blind peers study something unrelated to blindness. I am in IT, one of my best friends is studying environmental science, a classmate is studying neurology, and I know people in and outside of the NFB in everything from law to sports administration to engineering. It is easy to go about life without meeting another blind person outside of a blindness organization, but we’re there. I promise. Lastly, I want to address your comment about college being much easier now than it ever has been. I had to laugh this one off before it made my blood boil. College isn’t a walk in the park. College is more like running a marathon through a park that’s on fire while being chased by wolves. And doing that blind will never be easy. I appreciate your time and your willingness to share your thoughts. I’d love to continue the conversation. Thank you, Emily Kiehl University of Cincinnati | 2023 Information Technology - Networking National Association of Blind Students - Ohio 813-394-2720 ________________________________ From: NABS-L on behalf of Joe Orozco via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:02 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Joe Orozco Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality Hi, Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, it makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains to employ blind people. If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for the inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in retail, hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as adolescence. In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available for the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to equality. And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for those jobs... I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming generation of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. You can read the entire post here: https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kiehley%40mail.uc.edu From jsoro824 at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 18:51:30 2021 From: jsoro824 at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:51:30 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: <907decd9-e8b4-5871-8913-96ed43d3a661@tysdomain.com> References: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> <907decd9-e8b4-5871-8913-96ed43d3a661@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Tyler, Now you're grasping at straws. The paragraph you're referring to says: *"Progress? Sure, we’ve made progress in making it easier for blind people to interact with a world designed for the sighted. Older generations likely shake their heads at how easier it is to get through college as a blind student. I can’t hate the world, because life has gotten a little easier. But the work is far from over."* First, "easier" does not imply easy. We no longer have to haul clunky technology about or rely on a slate and stylus to produce notes. We no longer have to rely exclusively on a human reader to give us access to reference materials, hence the reference to an easier experience, but I would never suggest college in of itself is easy for blind students without qualifiers, which I encompass by acknowledging the work is far from over. In fact, that is the root of the article's argument. Second, your reaction to the article feels a little misplaced. If you can point me to the places where the article makes people feel lazy, inadequate, or perpetuates the isolation you talk about, I am not beyond apologizing and rewriting those passages. What I don't find endearing is your attempts at cherry picking those aspects of the article you did not care for and spinning them into half-baked soundbites without giving the full context of what was written. It hardly seems rational to use the article as the face to lash out against everything you seem to find unfair. I don't pretend to approach the subject with kid gloves, but nor did I make a sport of pouncing on anyone's fragility. Had that been my intent, you would have felt it. But why would I want to? It's in my best interest that all blind people feel empowered to go out and conquer their own ambitions. The more blind people tackle an array of occupations alongside the general public, the easier it would be for all of us to enjoy more opportunities. The fact I take a more commanding tone to move the needle does not make my message wrong or detrimental. It makes it different, and so far, even though it seems like we agree there is a persistent problem, my philosophy at least offers action. Joe On 4/14/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Joe: > It's not that I believe you yourself are so powerful to influence > people. My point here is that this article, your views and the ideas you > are putting out here are detrimental to people. As you've heard and > perhaps read, stating that college is easy makes people feel as if their > college experience doesn't count for much, or that they're doing > something wrong. You are pushing a narrative that is vastly different > from the lived experiences of many on this list. We are often told that > things should be easier and therefore we should not be complaining, or > that we should be doing more, or that the issues we experience are not > because we are blind, but because perhaps we are lazy or doing something > wrong. This is the exact issue that many of those facing mental health > issues deal with daily, and many times these problems are compounded by > points I have previously made. When you think that you are to blame, you > don't reach out for help, you don't try to find information or you don't > try to connect with others. So, in short you yourself are not > responsible for this, nor is any single person. This article is simply > one more weight, one more instance of people being told that they're the > problem. > > On 4/14/2021 11:46 AM, Joe Orozco wrote: >> Tyler, >> >> I'm sorry you took my invitation to lay out your position as an >> "article-writing pissing contest." From my perspective, that sort of >> response speaks more deeply to what you feel about me as an individual >> than you might about the views expressed. Ironically, I don't think we >> disagree anywhere as vehemently as you want to convince yourself. >> >> For example, we fully agree that helping people should be about >> helping them meet their goals. My blog, taken as a whole, is about >> helping people, blind or sighted, become self-sufficient. It's less >> about prescription and more about creating options. And, sure, a lot >> of my advice will be drawn from personal experience; therefore, my >> advice will be biased, but I trust people's intelligence to take the >> advice, or not, and if they take it, to give it the value they paid >> for. This is not all that different from your philosophy. I know we >> all want to believe our beliefs are neutral. They are not, largely >> because of the very same experiences you point out that shape us, but >> good thing we have free agency to adopt what makes sense for us and >> dismiss the rest. >> >> It's flattering you believe I have so much influence over the >> blindness community that one article could have a detrimental effect >> on people's livelihood. Alas, I do not. And a good thing too. Long >> after people forget about this article, I am going to continue >> compounding my personal success, and if someone out there took my >> advice to compound their own, so much the better. >> >> Joe >> >> On 4/14/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >>> Joe: >>> I will respond to a few of your points here. >>> First, my membership to this organization has nothing to do with the >>> standards people in the blind community, and blindness organizations set >>> for others. We like to take very specific attributes: braille reader, >>> good at travel, good with technology, can prepare a meal for x number of >>> people and boil down the idea of "success" to how many of these boxes >>> someone can check. It's easy for those who are successful to look down >>> upon everyone lower down the ladder and tell them they need to find >>> reality. In reality, this isn't the case. I strongly believe that these >>> ideas and attitudes do much more damage to people who are trying to >>> determine what they want in life than they help. There's nothing wrong >>> with encouraging people, but I can personally say that it feels >>> incredibly discouraging to be put in boxes and have to try to live up to >>> the standards set by others in all areas. My standards for people are >>> whatever those individuals want out of life, and whatever they can get >>> at that time. >>> >>> I often wish that while "successful" blind people were trotted out in >>> front of me while I was growing up and looking for answers to how I >>> should progress, people spent less time talking about how well they >>> progressed. This is less about talking about yourself and more about >>> providing help, which I understand certainly takes more effort. It means >>> shifting the generational hobby of complaining about the youngsters >>> ahead of you to trying to be a positive influence. I saw a quote the >>> other day that said something like mentoring is less about forcing >>> people into your mold and more about understanding your mentee's goals >>> and leveraging your lived experience and knowledge to help them get >>> there. To be clear, this is about shifting the prospective from yourself >>> to the true desire to help. >>> >>> I would say that I am doing well where I currently am; I graduated and >>> have a job which I do well at. What I would also say though is that this >>> was pushed partially by my own desire to grow, but secondly by the idea >>> of "success" and what that means. I personally experienced and continue >>> to experience mental health issues: depression, anxiety and plenty of >>> triggers out of this, which I would not wish on anyone. So the real >>> question is not what you can do to get to the dream land, but what you >>> can do to be happy, and whether or not the ideas of success set by >>> others are worth the fight. This is why I responded to your article; I >>> want people to know that there are other options, and most importantly >>> other outlooks. >>> >>> While I am humbled and honored by the thought of being featured on your >>> blog, I will respectfully have to decline the offer of an >>> article-writing pissing contest. I believe that there are more ways to >>> spend my time that would lead to more tangible results for people. >>> Secondly, although I have toiled through the salt mines and could brag >>> about my battle scars, I do not believe that I should be telling blind >>> people, or people of any group how best to live their life. I would >>> instead suggest that people are provided with encouragement, solutions >>> to individual problems, networking connections and resources to enable >>> them to succeed. >>> >>> On 4/14/2021 8:56 AM, Joe Orozco wrote: >>>> Tyler, >>>> >>>> I appreciate the thoughtful feedback. I'll reply in kind, not to win >>>> you over, disagreement is a good thing, but to explain my rationale >>>> behind some of your points of contention. >>>> >>>> Taking a sabbatical from blindness advocacy in general does not mean >>>> people will stop advocating for things on the job. Sadly, sometimes >>>> advocacy has to be done so often that it feels like it becomes part of >>>> the job, but there's a difference between that individual level of >>>> advocacy and devoting countless hours to helping with the running of >>>> the organization. I'll grant you I should have been more clear with my >>>> wording. The 30 plus hours some of us put into our affiliates on a >>>> weekly basis, depending on the season, are hours some of us might >>>> consider pouring into other social causes to help along that >>>> normalization of blindness in the public eye. Your interpretation of >>>> my advice feels slightly dramatic, because one, we're assuming people >>>> will take the advice; and two, even if people take the advice, we're >>>> assuming no one will be left to pick up the slack. The NFB did not >>>> crumble when I disappeared for the better part of a decade. Though not >>>> unique to the NFB, we do too good of a job of taking hard workers and >>>> burning them out when we discover they are reliable. >>>> >>>> I never suggested we should just accept the sighted world for what it >>>> is and learn our technology to get by. In fact I slam the workplace >>>> for claiming to be diverse and inclusive when they habitually leave >>>> disabilities out of their equation. I am suggesting we need to meet >>>> the world halfway by learning the tools that will make us competitive >>>> in a world that is already skewed against blindness, and frankly, on >>>> the point of competitive marketability, it is advice that could >>>> equally apply to young sighted adults. >>>> >>>> I'm sorry you found the article discouraging and disappointing. The >>>> point was not to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. The point was to >>>> reiterate the dismal reality that a blind person could encounter if >>>> educators, blindness professionals, parents, and even consumer groups >>>> do not do their part to adequately prepare the up and coming >>>> generation for the challenges of the real world. I did not recommend >>>> anything I had not carried out myself. If you are disgusted by blind >>>> people holding other blind people to lofty standards, I have to wonder >>>> what keeps you in the NFB, because while I would not describe our >>>> standards as "lofty," I would describe our standards as unconventional >>>> compared to what the rest of the world would find feasible for blind >>>> people. In this context, I'm not concerned with people outside of our >>>> community. I'm concerned about the perpetual statistics that suggest >>>> our community continues to be held back. >>>> >>>> Indeed, everyone has a different set of abilities and experiences. >>>> This is largely why the article does not put the burden of >>>> responsibility on the individual but rather on their support systems. >>>> As long as we're going to talk about accepting people where they are, >>>> let's use this opportunity to emphasize the importance of doing more >>>> to be accommodating of blind people who live with secondary >>>> disabilities. >>>> >>>> Disagreements are healthy. Deliberate misrepresentations of facts are >>>> abhorrent. The article clearly states my ambitions are not other >>>> people's ambitions. In fact, I go on to defend people who choose not >>>> to aspire to taller responsibilities, provided this is a personal >>>> choice. >>>> >>>> No, sighted people do not have to devote hours of training to learn >>>> their technology. Then again, sighted people can quickly scan a screen >>>> and efficiently conceptualize how a user interface clicks together. >>>> You yourself admit some of us have to work extra hours to work around >>>> accessibility issues. That's not an unfair comparison of blind versus >>>> sighted. That's just facts as they currently stand. A person can >>>> always choose not to make the investment in time to properly learn a >>>> software, but their career potential will shift accordingly. This is >>>> no different for the prospects between those who choose to go to >>>> college and those who choose not to. >>>> >>>> You urge me to go be the change I want to see and to go help people. >>>> Rather than list my accomplishments and contributions to the community >>>> and make you look silly for making hasty assumptions about people you >>>> don't know, let's just say the article was motivated by a close, >>>> familiar, and frequent interaction with blind people inside and >>>> outside of the Federation. I like to run my mouth. This is true, but I >>>> can back up what I spout. >>>> >>>> That being said, I am perfectly willing to accept there are >>>> alternative views. Remember, I acknowledge these were just one guy's >>>> opinions, so consider this an open invitation for you to email me your >>>> own article outlining your advice to better prepare blind people for >>>> the real world. I will run it on my blog and give people the freedom >>>> to decide for themselves which philosophy makes the most sense for >>>> them. >>>> >>>> Respectfully, >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/13/21, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >>>>> I wasn't sure if I wanted to respond to this or just skip past it, but >>>>> I >>>>> think there are a few points worth talking about. >>>>> >>>>> Firstly, I would love to live in a life where I could take a >>>>> sabbatical >>>>> from advocating in the blind-sphere, because that would mean I'm not >>>>> interfacing with the accessibility issues I experience daily. I >>>>> realize >>>>> that I may not be grounded in your reality, but I would say that this >>>>> is >>>>> simply not possible, and you cover part of why. Every day we need to >>>>> advocate for accessibility, or for something to be slightly different >>>>> to >>>>> enable us to perform tasks and to accomplish our jobs. We work extra >>>>> hours daily to overcome accessibility challenges and to compete with >>>>> our >>>>> peers. to suggest that we can simply ignore this fact and wander off >>>>> into the sunset to not advocate for blindness-related issues shows me >>>>> that you've missed a point here. While I would agree that centering >>>>> your >>>>> life around these issues might not be the best for some, it works for >>>>> many, and we all owe a lot of gratitude and appreciation to those who >>>>> do >>>>> dedicate their lives to making it easier. I would also say that it is >>>>> this daily advocacy that brings us into contact with organizations >>>>> like >>>>> the NFB and ACB. >>>>> >>>>> You also make a point about how the sighted world isn't going to meet >>>>> us >>>>> where we are, and how we should just learn to use our tech and get by. >>>>> While I understand that learning your technology is important, there >>>>> are >>>>> two key issues here. First, your ability to write this, your ability >>>>> to >>>>> bestow your paternal wisdom upon us folk is only because you stand on >>>>> the shoulders of giants. If everyone accepted the world for what it >>>>> was >>>>> and simply adapted without reaching for more and trying to make it a >>>>> better place, we would not be having this argument. You would likely >>>>> still be reading raised print if that, and your article opener >>>>> wouldn't >>>>> be talking about opportunities for work that we currently have. >>>>> >>>>> I find articles like this discouraging and outright disappointing. It >>>>> disgusts me how many times blind people hold other blind people to >>>>> lofty >>>>> standards that they themselves sometimes don't even rise to, or that >>>>> we >>>>> don't hold others outside of this community to. There's something to >>>>> be >>>>> said for understanding that everyone has their own lived experiences, >>>>> and that those experiences are what might shape us. Opportunity isn't >>>>> there for the taking for everyone, many times it relies on so many >>>>> characteristics outside of someone's control. It's easy to dismiss a >>>>> group's issues as not learning technology, or not being grounded in >>>>> reality, when there are many other factors that might dictate how one >>>>> is >>>>> able to use the tools that they are given. These include but most >>>>> certainly are not limited to education and ability. You want to >>>>> compare >>>>> us to the sighted world, yet the standards your article sets for blind >>>>> people is far above what most people need to aspire to in order to say >>>>> that they are your version of "successful." Not every sighted person >>>>> has >>>>> to devote hours and days of training and experimentation to learn >>>>> their >>>>> technology, at the very least. Not every blind person can do this, >>>>> either. So rather than tell blind people they've got it all wrong, I >>>>> would urge you to go be the change you want to see. Do something that >>>>> helps people, rather than disparage a community on mass by putting >>>>> them >>>>> in a box that you can write an article full of stereotypes around. >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/2021 5:02 PM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Considering I wrote the post below with this list audience in mind, >>>>>> it >>>>>> makes sense to share it here. I'll reiterate these are just personal >>>>>> opinions, not an authority by any means.--Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> There’s never been a better time to be blind, or so I’ve heard. And I >>>>>> have to ask: How low have we dropped the bar? >>>>>> >>>>>> I was recently chatting with a friend. I forget exactly how the >>>>>> subject came up, but we found ourselves discussing blind people and >>>>>> entry level jobs. I expressed frustration at the blindness consumer >>>>>> groups for not doing a better job of partnering with national chains >>>>>> to employ blind people. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the unemployment rate among the blind persists deep into double >>>>>> digits, why would we not fight to change the landscape? >>>>>> >>>>>> The number of jobs that ask for a high school education or jobs that >>>>>> do not require formal education to fulfill are growing at the slowest >>>>>> rate compared to other trends. Blind people should be prepared for >>>>>> the >>>>>> inevitability of automation, but in the meantime, it does not seem >>>>>> reasonable that blind people should be kept out of the jobs in >>>>>> retail, >>>>>> hospitality, and recreation so common to Americans as early as >>>>>> adolescence. >>>>>> >>>>>> In 2021, Amazons announcement to make more opportunities available >>>>>> for >>>>>> the blind should not have been newsworthy. It should have been >>>>>> commonplace. Why are we not demanding more companies follow Amazon’s >>>>>> example of opening their industry to blind workers? It’s fine for >>>>>> diversity campaigns to be inclusive of all genders, ethnicities, age, >>>>>> and religions, but if companies are not stretching themselves to >>>>>> accommodate disabilities, they are still blocking the doorway to >>>>>> equality. >>>>>> >>>>>> And then my friend said something that stopped my rant in its tracks. >>>>>> She said that maybe it was because blind people were not ready for >>>>>> those jobs... >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve prepared a few thoughts on the steps the up and coming >>>>>> generation >>>>>> of blind individuals should follow as they prepare to meet the real >>>>>> world. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but I do claim to be >>>>>> successful. These are just one guy’s personal opinions, and hey, if >>>>>> you disagree, you know where to leave your comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can read the entire post here: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://joeorozco.com/preparing-blind-people-for-the-rest-of-reality/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> NABS-L: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Take Care, >>>>> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) >>>>> >>>>> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business >>>>> solutions. My personal site >>>>> My Linkedin >>>>> @Sorressean on Twitter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> >>> Take Care, >>> Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) >>> >>> Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business >>> solutions. My personal site >>> My Linkedin >>> @Sorressean on Twitter >>> >>> >>> >>> > > -- > > Take Care, > Tyler Littlefield (he/him/his) > > Tyler Littlefield Consulting: website development and business > solutions. My personal site > My Linkedin > @Sorressean on Twitter > > > > From job-listings at nfbnet.org Wed Apr 14 21:58:28 2021 From: job-listings at nfbnet.org (Andrews, David B (DEED) via Job-Listings) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:58:28 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] [Job-Listings] Braille Proof Reader Job Minnesota Message-ID: | Help Job Posting Job Title Braille Specialist Job ID 45156 Location St. Paul Full/Part Time Part-Time Regular/Temporary Unlimited Return to Previous Page Switch to Internal View Logo GroupBox1 Department of Employment and Economic Development The Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development (DEED) is the State of Minnesota's principal economic development agency. DEED’s mission is simple: to empower the growth of the Minnesota economy, for everyone. 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Job Details GroupBox1 Job Class: Braille Specialist Who May Apply: Open to all qualified job seekers; This vacancy is open for bids and for all qualified job seekers simultaneously. Bidders will be considered through 4/20/2021. Date Posted: 04/14/2021 Closing Date: 05/03/2021 Hiring Agency/Seniority Unit: Employ & Econ Development Dept / Employ & Economic Dev-MAPE Division/Unit: StateServices for the Blind Branch / SSB Braille Work Shift/Work Hours: Day Shift / part-time / 30 hours a week Days of Work: Mon - Fri Travel Required: No Salary Range: $22.48 - $32.79/hourly Classified Status: Classified Bargaining Unit/Union: 214 - MN Assoc of Professional Empl/MAPE FLSA Status: Nonexempt Connect 700 Program Eligible: Yes Job Summary GroupBox1 Job Summary Minnesota State Services for the Blind (SSB) has been serving blind, visually impaired and DeafBlind Minnesotans since 1923. 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The State of Minnesota recognizes that a diverse workforce is essential and strongly encourages qualified women, minorities, individuals with disabilities, and veterans to apply. We will make reasonable accommodations to all qualified applicants with disabilities. If you are an individual with a disability who needs assistance or cannot access the online job application system, please contact the job information line at 651-259-3637 or email careers at state.mn.us. Please indicate what assistance you need. David Andrews, CPACC Chief Technology Officer Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind 2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114 Direct: 651-539-2294 Web| Twitter | Facebook DEED SSB Logo Black and White From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Wed Apr 14 23:02:39 2021 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 23:02:39 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: References: <200602e6-2fd7-1d33-f811-0a035f63f7d7@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: Hello All,, I feel uncomfortable and concerned about the abuse that was expressed in the full text of the blog post that was advertised on this email list. And I am more concerned and alarmed by the escalation of abuse that is expressed in the follow-up responses to the initial blog post. I believe it is important to identify abuse when it takes place as a means to provide a safe place for others. I also believe it is important to create safe spaces for people to express themselves without the threat or fear of violence and abuse. Additionally, the National Federation of the Blind Code of Conduct clearly outlines the responsibility of leaders within this organization to provide a welcome and inclusive environment free of violence and abuse. Therefore, I respectfully request that this discussion topic be closed for any further discussion on this email list. And I further respectfully request that anyone posting to this email list use nonviolent means of communication when posting to this email list. Warm regards, Elizabeth From mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 03:00:38 2021 From: mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com (Mausam Mehta) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 23:00:38 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Preparing Blind People for the Rest of Reality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58944D96-4068-4B11-A4A8-01C111543D05@gmail.com> Dear all, This list is a really unique forum for blind students across the country to share ideas and experiences that are meaningful to our growth, and we are grateful for the opportunity to do so. That being said, I would ask that we try to be mindful of our language and the intention behind it, as this is a place many of us come to seek support and resources as a community. Thank you to those who have come forward with concerns. If you have anything you’d like to address directly with leadership, please don’t hesitate to reach out. As previously stated, the public list serve is not the most productive avenue to ensure that your thoughts come to our attention. Best, Mausam Mausam Mehta Co-chair | Legislative and Self-Advocacy Committee Secretary | National Association of blind students A proud division of the National Federation of the blind mausam.mehta.nfb at gmail.com | www.nabslink.org > On Apr 14, 2021, at 7:05 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello All,, > > I feel uncomfortable and concerned about the abuse that was expressed in the full text of the blog post that was advertised on this email list. And I am more concerned and alarmed by the escalation of abuse that is expressed in the follow-up responses to the initial blog post. > > I believe it is important to identify abuse when it takes place as a means to provide a safe place for others. I also believe it is important to create safe spaces for people to express themselves without the threat or fear of violence and abuse. Additionally, the National Federation of the Blind Code of Conduct clearly outlines the responsibility of leaders within this organization to provide a welcome and inclusive environment free of violence and abuse. > > Therefore, I respectfully request that this discussion topic be closed for any further discussion on this email list. And I further respectfully request that anyone posting to this email list use nonviolent means of communication when posting to this email list. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/mausam.mehta.nfb%40gmail.com From monica.wegner at outlook.com Thu Apr 15 21:36:30 2021 From: monica.wegner at outlook.com (Monica Wegner) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 21:36:30 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Coffee chats with NABS Diversity and Inclusion Message-ID: Dear Students, We are looking for people who have either attended NABS in-person events or plan to attend in the future for a 15-minute feedback session. Specifically, we are seeking to discuss roommates and room sharing at NABS in-person events. The sessions will be completed via Zoom and shouldn't take longer than fifteen minutes. They will be one-on-one with one of the chairs of the NABS Diversity and Inclusion committee. As a thank you for talking with us, all students who meet with us will be entered into a drawing for a $25 Amazon gift card. To book a session, please use the following link: https://calendly.com/monicawegner/nabs-roommate-feedback Warmly, Monica and the NABS D&I team * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Monica Wegner Pronouns | she, her, hers Board Member | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind Chair | NABS Diversity and Inclusion Committee Want to talk? Drop a meeting on my calendar. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Thu Apr 15 23:35:23 2021 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:35:23 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] University Summit on Organizing Against Gender-Based Violence Message-ID: Hello All, I understand some people within the blindness community may be seeking ways to heal from sexual trauma and abuse. Some people find healing through getting involved within the community to prevent what happened to them from happening to someone else. So I thought I would share a virtual event hosted by Michigan State University on taking action against gender-based violence. You do not need to be affiliated with the university to attend this event. I have posted the registration details below for anyone who may be interested in attending this event. Warm regards, Elizabeth ------ The 1st Annual Activating Campus Undergraduate Summit is a half-day summit where students can come together and learn about the different ways they can get involved on campus and in their communities to take action against gender-based violence. Registration is now open! https://rb.gy/ts2ex1 You do not need to be affiliated with MSU to attend this free, online event! While some of the information will be specific to MSU and the East Lansing communities, this information could still be useful to finding opportunities to get involved in your own local community! From oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 03:32:39 2021 From: oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com (Real talk with Oscar Josue Montiel) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:32:39 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Looking for cohost for draft days two and three Message-ID: Hello good evening! I hope you all are doing well and staying safe. This is a message for those who are NFL fans and who are not shy and interested in joining me on my YouTube channel real talk with Oscar Josue Montiel. for those who are NFL fans you all are well aware that the NFL draft is happening in about two weeks time. I will be streaming on YouTube my reactions to the NFL draft on my YouTube channel. Please reach out to me via email if you are interested in joining me on either Friday, April 30, or May 1. Please email me so that way we can discuss details on how I will be doing this event. My Stream yard account can potentially have two or three guests at a time. Thanks, Sincerely, Oscar Montiel From ninam0814 at gmail.com Fri Apr 16 17:07:23 2021 From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 13:07:23 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] April blog post is here! Dive into some self care! Message-ID: <00E27DBB-B921-4553-B31B-06A8FE92015F@gmail.com> Hey, students! Take a much needed study break to read this month’s blog post. It’s all about self care, which we know you need as much as we do during finals season! Read below. https://thestudentslate.wordpress.com/2021/04/15/learns-establishing-mental-health-hygiene-by-darrel-kirby/ Best, Nina From monica.wegner at outlook.com Sat Apr 17 16:16:31 2021 From: monica.wegner at outlook.com (Monica Wegner) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:16:31 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] One-day notice for Diversity and Inclusion meeting Message-ID: Hi Students, Please join us for our monthly Diversity and Inclusion Committee meeting Sunday evening April 18th at 9 PM eastern. All are welcome and prior D&I participation is not required. Join Zoom meeting https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 One Tap Mobile: +16468769923,,4678833687# Warmly, Monica * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Monica Wegner Pronouns | she, her, hers Board Member | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind Chair | NABS Diversity and Inclusion Committee Want to talk? Drop a meeting on my calendar. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From keribcu at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 01:55:32 2021 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:55:32 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] looking to connect with people in or around Hartford CT Message-ID: <7ce5838f-c1cb-a7c4-8907-30cf19336e63@gmail.com> hi fellow students, If any of you live in Hartfort CT or near by I'd love to connect with you. I have questions about public transit. You can reach me off list at keribcu at gmail.com -- Keri Svendsen From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 05:51:24 2021 From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 01:51:24 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] looking to connect with people in or around Hartford CT In-Reply-To: <7ce5838f-c1cb-a7c4-8907-30cf19336e63@gmail.com> References: <7ce5838f-c1cb-a7c4-8907-30cf19336e63@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Keri, You may want to try getting a hold of someone via the CT NFB list serve. They would be more helpful. Best regards, Bri On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 9:56 PM Keri Svendsen via NABS-L wrote: > hi fellow students, > > > If any of you live in Hartfort CT or near by I'd love to connect with > you. I have questions about public transit. You can reach me off list at > > keribcu at gmail.com > > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gmail.com > -- Brianna Rigsbee Personal email: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Direct phone: (203) 751-0199 “You can’t fly unless you let yourself fall.” From keribcu at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 14:55:33 2021 From: keribcu at gmail.com (Keri Svendsen) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:55:33 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] looking to connect with people in or around Hartford CT In-Reply-To: References: <7ce5838f-c1cb-a7c4-8907-30cf19336e63@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bri, I tried CT list serv months ago and got no response, but I've already gotten a few responses thanks. On 4/18/2021 1:51 AM, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Keri, > > You may want to try getting a hold of someone via the CT NFB list serve. > They would be more helpful. > > Best regards, > Bri > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 9:56 PM Keri Svendsen via NABS-L > wrote: > >> hi fellow students, >> >> >> If any of you live in Hartfort CT or near by I'd love to connect with >> you. I have questions about public transit. You can reach me off list at >> >> keribcu at gmail.com >> >> -- >> Keri Svendsen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gmail.com >> -- Keri Svendsen From ktisalycia98 at icloud.com Sun Apr 18 17:44:57 2021 From: ktisalycia98 at icloud.com (Alycia Howard) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 12:44:57 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?You=E2=80=99re_Invited=3A_MNABS_Monday_Madnes?= =?utf-8?q?s?= Message-ID: <0A4DC799-803E-4001-B1F9-14A8E7311650@icloud.com> Would you rather have a blast, or hang out with awesome people? Well, this MNABS Monday Madness you won’t have to make that decision. Join us Monday April 19 at 7:00 pm central for a fun evening of games with the Minnesota Student division! All are welcome and encouraged to join! Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/92700794823?pwd=NkgrWnEyZE5xL2FuSG1qVVdNc3BDUT09 Meeting ID: 927 0079 4823 Passcode: 7ZiFp! 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We will be discussing the frustrating aspect of blindness and how we dealt with those complicated situations. I am very excited to hear all of your stories! Here is the link for everyone! Join Zoom meeting https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 One Tap Mobile: +16468769923,,4678833687# Sincerely, Lizzy Schoen LSAC Co-Chair 2nd Vice President of the Minnesota Association of Blind Students From bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 18:47:22 2021 From: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com (Brianna Rigsbee) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 14:47:22 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] looking to connect with people in or around Hartford CT In-Reply-To: References: <7ce5838f-c1cb-a7c4-8907-30cf19336e63@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Keri, I’m sorry you haven’t received any responses from the CT listserve. However, I’m glad some people were able to help you. Best regards, Bri On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 10:57 AM Keri Svendsen via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Bri, > > > I tried CT list serv months ago and got no response, but I've already > gotten a few responses thanks. > > On 4/18/2021 1:51 AM, Brianna Rigsbee via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Keri, > > > > You may want to try getting a hold of someone via the CT NFB list serve. > > They would be more helpful. > > > > Best regards, > > Bri > > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 9:56 PM Keri Svendsen via NABS-L < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> > > wrote: > > > >> hi fellow students, > >> > >> > >> If any of you live in Hartfort CT or near by I'd love to connect with > >> you. I have questions about public transit. You can reach me off list at > >> > >> keribcu at gmail.com > >> > >> -- > >> Keri Svendsen > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NABS-L mailing list > >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >> NABS-L: > >> > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gmail.com > >> > -- > Keri Svendsen > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bri.rigsbee96%40gmail.com > -- Brianna Rigsbee Personal email: bri.rigsbee96 at gmail.com Direct phone: (203) 751-0199 “You can’t fly unless you let yourself fall.” From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Sun Apr 18 21:30:00 2021 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 16:30:00 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Training Center Q & A: Sunday, April 25 at 9 EST Message-ID: Hey, NABSters! We hope this message finds each of you gearing up for the beautiful spring weather that will launch us into the start of summer break. Hard to believe it's only a few weeks away. In case you've already started contemplating what to do post graduation, or if you simply have some questions about our three NFB training centers, we’ve got great news! You can join our April membership call all about training. We'll be joined by both staff and student representatives from BLIND, Inc., the Colorado Center for the Blind, and the Louisiana Center for the Blind. Bring your questions and curiosity to our call, taking place on Sunday, April 25 at 9:00 PM EST. Join us using the Zoom info below: Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Meeting ID: 467 883 3687 One tap mobile +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown) +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago) Can't wait to see you there, and remember to take a study break every now and again! Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Rouse She/her/hers President | Iowa Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | NABS Outreach Committee Treasurer | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com 563-210-1854 From QSFord at outlook.com Mon Apr 19 10:02:39 2021 From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:02:39 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?South_east_game_night=2C_a_game_Night_that_yo?= =?utf-8?q?u_Don=E2=80=99t_wanna_miss!?= Message-ID: Southeast Game Night The Southeast Colaberation invites you to a fun-filled afternoon of networking and games on Saturday, April 24th, from 3-5 PM EST. This dynamic is hosted by the students boards of the Maryland, Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina student divisions, and we are bringing a lot of energy to this event. You don’t want to miss our engaging time of philosophy discussions followed by rounds of song trivia and 5-Second Rule. ​And where might this be held? On our favorite virtual platform: Zoom. And even better, the event is free to attend. We’d love for you to come join us. And who knows? You may even win one of the prizes. Zoom Link: https://zoom.us/j/95606203998 “The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“ From QSFord at outlook.com Mon Apr 19 10:26:49 2021 From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:26:49 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Maryland Association of blind students chill night Message-ID: Do you like crabs, or do you like dear? Either way this Tuesday at 7 PM Eastern for the first time ever the white tail deer state of Ohio and the blue crab state of Maryland come together to give you the chillest of chill nights! Why kick it with the tortoise and the hare, when you can kick it with the crab and the deer! Who better to play audio charades with Dan the crustiest crustacean of them all! Who better to play heads up with in the majestic white tailed deer? So stop on bye and hang what’s the coolest Cruise in the School! Since everything is better, down where it’s wetter, under the sea! https://zoom.us/j/95606203998 “The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“ From clearinghouse at miusa.org Mon Apr 19 15:00:00 2021 From: clearinghouse at miusa.org (MIUSA Clearinghouse) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] People with Disabilities: Insider's Guide to the World of International Exchange Message-ID: Dear NABS, Justin here from the National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange. I hope you're doing well. I wanted to let you know that this Friday, April 23, at 11 AM (Los Angeles) or 2 PM (New York) I'm going to be speaking with a panel of staff from World Learning, AFS and ISA, well-known study abroad providers in the international education field about how they support participants with disabilities. If you know anyone with a disability who is thinking about one day studying or volunteering abroad, this will be a great opportunity for them to ask some of their burning questions in a positive and safe space. Two of our panelists actually have disabilities themselves. I hope that you will share the press release and registration information far and wide with your networks. Our last panel discussion with Samsara Counts, Ana Sikhashvili and Michel She , three disabled individuals who shared their experiences studying abroad as young adults, had a lot of attendance and engagement. You can listen to the recording or access a transcript at the press release. Best regards Justin Harford (he/him/his) Program Coordinator (NCDE) Mobility International USA (MIUSA) 132 E Broadway Suite 343 Eugene OR 97401 541-343-1284 ext 1014 (voice) jharford at miusa.org (email) From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 17:52:15 2021 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:52:15 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] You're invited! CABS call on consent and relationships Message-ID: Hey folks, I hope your April is still going well. Not much in terms of announcements. We still have our consent and relationships call on Saturday with the phenomenal Lisamaria Martinez. This is a call for blind students, so feel free to invite your blind student friends. Feel free to submit anonymous questions on this one-field Google form: https://forms.gle/dVuUTSY57XNnNJTE7 you can also email me with questions/comments/concerns. And join us on Saturday, April 24th at 4:00 PM Pacific. Here’s the Zoom info: Hi there, Cricket Bidleman is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://stanford.zoom.us/j/98178172488?pwd=TzlJWmpkc3RUczZFcko0QnN3TWN4dz09 Password: 851785 Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +18333021536,,98178172488# or +16507249799,,98178172488# Or Telephone: Dial: +1 650 724 9799 (US, Canada, Caribbean Toll) or +1 833 302 1536 (US, Canada, Caribbean Toll Free) Meeting ID: 981 7817 2488 Password: 851785 International numbers available: https://stanford.zoom.us/u/ahWKHQTIx Meeting ID: 981 7817 2488 Password: 851785 SIP: 98178172488 at zoomcrc.com Password: 851785 Best, Cricket (on behalf of the CABS board) -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) From rob.parso3389 at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 10:46:14 2021 From: rob.parso3389 at gmail.com (Robert Parsons) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 06:46:14 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Help NABS Become a Best Seller!! References: Message-ID: <835E44BC-E85C-4559-8813-794273CDB833@gmail.com>  > Good Morning NABSters! > > > > I am so excited for the beautiful weather on the horizon. Something that goes great with beautiful weather is delicious food. As you members of our national student division are all culinary innovators, it would be a huge deal if any of you could take the time to submit a copy of your favorite recipe to the below link. Our fundraising effort for national convention, “NABS Nuggets,” is shaping up to be an amazing collection of some of the creations of our members, possibly becoming a personal bestseller if we can get your favorite dishes to feature in it. > > > > Of course, the NABS fundraising committee is always hard at work with promoting our mission and creating connections with organizations and individuals that are willing to support our work for blind students. I’m happy to inform you all that we received a generous donation from the Western Michigan University college bookstore. The donation is a Bluetooth wireless keyboard. Thus, the NABS fundraising committee has added the incentive that the 10th student to submit a recipe will be awarded the keyboard. Remember, you can submit more than one recipe and we take any type of cuisine or meal style you choose to share with us. Please, help us grow NABS and improve everyone’s kitchens. > > > > > > Link: https://forms.gle/F3fGbHsP2FUWqGoY8 > > With Love > > > > Robert Parsons > > Board Member| National Association of Blind Students > > Board Member| National Federation of the Blind of Michigan > > www.nabslink.org From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Tue Apr 20 20:10:02 2021 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:10:02 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Is KaHoot Accessible? Message-ID: Hello All, I am a part of a student organization at my college that wants to create a trivia game using KaHoot. I have seen other organizations and virtual meetings use KaHoot before, but I chose not to participate in the game. However, this time I would like to be able to participate. So does anyone know if KaHoot is accessible? And if so, is there anything special that needs to be done to make it accessible? One of the group leaders and I tried out a demo game to see if it was accessible. I tried playing the demo KaHoot game using my computer with JAWS. But I could not read the questions and answers. I wanted to try the demo again using the website with my IPhone using Voiceover. But it would not let us try out the demo game again. So if anyone has any experience using KaHoot with a screen reader, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Elizabeth From ka.yat.li at gmail.com Tue Apr 20 20:47:01 2021 From: ka.yat.li at gmail.com (Ka Li) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 16:47:01 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Is KaHoot Accessible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Elizabeth, I've only tried it on the computer with NVDA and I found it not to be very accessible. I could only see the buttons for the answers. What we did when we were using this at work as an icebreaker was to extend the timer and so that someone could read the question out loud and then I would click on an answer with NVDA. Hope this helps. Ka On 2021-04-20 4:10 p.m., Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > Hello All, > > I am a part of a student organization at my college that wants to create a trivia game using KaHoot. I have seen other organizations and virtual meetings use KaHoot before, but I chose not to participate in the game. However, this time I would like to be able to participate. > > So does anyone know if KaHoot is accessible? And if so, is there anything special that needs to be done to make it accessible? > > One of the group leaders and I tried out a demo game to see if it was accessible. I tried playing the demo KaHoot game using my computer with JAWS. But I could not read the questions and answers. I wanted to try the demo again using the website with my IPhone using Voiceover. But it would not let us try out the demo game again. > > So if anyone has any experience using KaHoot with a screen reader, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks, > Elizabeth > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ka.yat.li%40gmail.com From oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 14:22:39 2021 From: oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com (Real talk with Oscar Josue Montiel) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:22:39 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] One week until draft week still looking for guest to join me on my podcast Message-ID: Hello: For those were football fans we are one week away from the NFL draft. With that said, anyone who would like to join me on my channel real talk with Oscar Josue Montiel on days two and three spots are still open. Please note: I can have up to five other people as guests on my channel using stream yard. Please email me if you are interested in joining me on draft days two and three. Oscar Montiel From QSFord at outlook.com Wed Apr 21 16:13:08 2021 From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:13:08 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Podcast Message-ID: I’m interested in being on your podcast, what days and times do you still have open? “The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“ From QSFord at outlook.com Wed Apr 21 16:33:44 2021 From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:33:44 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Podcast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oops Sorry guise “The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“ > On Apr 21, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Qualik Ford wrote: > > I’m interested in being on your podcast, what days and times do you still have open? > > > > > “The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“ From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Wed Apr 21 17:29:22 2021 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:29:22 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Is KaHoot Accessible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Ka, Thank you for taking the time to respond to my message. Do you know how the timer was extended or how long they set the timer so that someone could read the questions and answers aloud for you to select your answer? I recommended using the polling feature in Zoom instead of using KaHoot. But apparently it is more complicated to set up. Or at least this is what the person who wants to run the trivia game told me. Anyway, thank you for your suggestions. Warm regards, Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: Ka Li Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 4:47 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Is KaHoot Accessible? Hi Elizabeth, I've only tried it on the computer with NVDA and I found it not to be very accessible. I could only see the buttons for the answers. What we did when we were using this at work as an icebreaker was to extend the timer and so that someone could read the question out loud and then I would click on an answer with NVDA. Hope this helps. Ka On 2021-04-20 4:10 p.m., Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > Hello All, > > I am a part of a student organization at my college that wants to create a trivia game using KaHoot. I have seen other organizations and virtual meetings use KaHoot before, but I chose not to participate in the game. However, this time I would like to be able to participate. > > So does anyone know if KaHoot is accessible? And if so, is there anything special that needs to be done to make it accessible? > > One of the group leaders and I tried out a demo game to see if it was accessible. I tried playing the demo KaHoot game using my computer with JAWS. But I could not read the questions and answers. I wanted to try the demo again using the website with my IPhone using Voiceover. But it would not let us try out the demo game again. > > So if anyone has any experience using KaHoot with a screen reader, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks, > Elizabeth > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ka.yat.li%40gmail.com From elana.c03 at gmail.com Wed Apr 21 18:12:06 2021 From: elana.c03 at gmail.com (Elana Charles) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:12:06 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Is KaHoot Accessible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4121411A-1AE2-41E4-9B5D-0162BEFE46AE@gmail.com> Hello Elizabeth, I did use the Kahoot app on my mobile device and it is really accessible using voiceover. I totally get that you requested to use the zoom polling feature it is very complicating to create. But I thought I should mention that the Kahoot iPhone app is accessible and free in the App Store If you have any questions please feel free to reach out to me at any time. Thank you and have a great day Elana Sent from my iPhone Elana Elizabeth Charles Secretary Wisconsin Association of blind students a proud division of the national Federation of the blind of Wisconsin Secretary national Federation of the blind brown county chapter Secretary of the legislative and self advocacy committee national Association of blind students Email Elana.c03 at gmail.com > On Apr 21, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello Ka, > > Thank you for taking the time to respond to my message. Do you know how the timer was extended or how long they set the timer so that someone could read the questions and answers aloud for you to select your answer? > > I recommended using the polling feature in Zoom instead of using KaHoot. But apparently it is more complicated to set up. Or at least this is what the person who wants to run the trivia game told me. > > Anyway, thank you for your suggestions. > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ka Li > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 4:47 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Is KaHoot Accessible? > > Hi Elizabeth, > > I've only tried it on the computer with NVDA and I found it not to be > very accessible. I could only see the buttons for the answers. What we > did when we were using this at work as an icebreaker was to extend the > timer and so that someone could read the question out loud and then I > would click on an answer with NVDA. > > Hope this helps. > > Ka > > >> On 2021-04-20 4:10 p.m., Elizabeth Mohnke via NABS-L wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I am a part of a student organization at my college that wants to create a trivia game using KaHoot. I have seen other organizations and virtual meetings use KaHoot before, but I chose not to participate in the game. However, this time I would like to be able to participate. >> >> So does anyone know if KaHoot is accessible? And if so, is there anything special that needs to be done to make it accessible? >> >> One of the group leaders and I tried out a demo game to see if it was accessible. I tried playing the demo KaHoot game using my computer with JAWS. But I could not read the questions and answers. I wanted to try the demo again using the website with my IPhone using Voiceover. But it would not let us try out the demo game again. >> >> So if anyone has any experience using KaHoot with a screen reader, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. >> >> Thanks, >> Elizabeth >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ka.yat.li%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elana.c03%40gmail.com From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Thu Apr 22 16:21:51 2021 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:21:51 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Remote Summer Internships with Pearson Message-ID: Hi everyone, Are you still looking for a good summer internship? Here is a link to where you can look at a ton of remote summer internship opportunities with Pearson (the textbook publishing company) that are still taking people. Some of them are explicitly working with National Federation of the Blind projects. Check it out! https://pearson.jobs/jobs/?q=intern Aloha, Justin Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury he/him/his Second Vice President | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind (808) 797-8606 president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org If you need help with a current accessibility barrier in school, visit: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXoK5sWCpBjvAu4EMOANUufEoJPyUlu4QeJnMB6pIdeohmsg/viewform If you have a story about an accessibility barrier you faced in higher education, please tell your story here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf68TacBetKMAHZcMhGJLmYgeWDIjjpSm9Sz1OUwYKxzsIEAg/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1 From carlymih at comcast.net Thu Apr 22 16:28:10 2021 From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 09:28:10 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee One Week Reminder In-Reply-To: <001201d72ef5$bb087d80$31197880$@gmail.com> References: <001201d72ef5$bb087d80$31197880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Good morning, Justin and everyone, For me, it has always been really helpful to learn about people whom have had to fight the same struggle for person hood as we do. It was always really helpful to me to learn about how those whom have gone before us did it, what worked and what didn't and that body of lived experience has always lighted my way, not that I've reached anything grandiose but in little incidentals it is from my predessors in that familiar struggle for person hood that I draw emotional strength and courage to consider not just myself in this fight but others of our group since of course, their person hood is important, too. All of us, all of blind people. At 10:11 AM 4/11/2021, Justin Young via NABS-L wrote: >Hi All, > > > >Hoping this message finds you all well! Please join us next Sunday, April 18 >at 8pm eastern for the next Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee (LSAC) >meeting. For this month's conversation, we will be discussing strategies how >to keep our cool in the moment of advocating for ourselves. At times I'm >sure we all have faced stressful or as some may also call them blood boiling >moments while trying to advocate for our rights as blind people. This might >happen with professors, in social gatherings, traveling in airports, train >stations, etc. So we would like you to consider these stressful situations & >how you dealt with them in the moment while they were happening and be >willing to share the techniques that worked best for you to resolve them. > > > >It's our hope by holding this conversation during this month's LSAC call, we >all can learn a new strategy to help us become greater self-advocates >ensuring we as blind people have the same rights as others! > > > >The Zoom information to join us is the following: > > > >Join Zoom Link: > >https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 > >One Tap Mobile: > >+16468769923,,4678833687# > > > >Thanks & look forward to chatting with you all next Sunday at 8pm eastern! > > > >Justin Young > >Co-Chair, Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee, National Association of >Blind Students > >Treasurer, National Federation of the Blind of New York State. > >Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of New York State, >Rochester Chapter > > > >_______________________________________________ >NABS-L mailing list >NABS-L at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net From plb32007 at icloud.com Thu Apr 22 17:09:34 2021 From: plb32007 at icloud.com (Pierluca Balestra) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:09:34 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and VoiceOver Message-ID: <13B3850E-0FAB-4BC6-A1C6-6C0F6EBF9DA8@icloud.com> Is Google Docs accessible to VoiceOver? Pierluca Balestra From elana.c03 at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 17:27:24 2021 From: elana.c03 at gmail.com (Elana:s Blind Life) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 12:27:24 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and VoiceOver In-Reply-To: <13B3850E-0FAB-4BC6-A1C6-6C0F6EBF9DA8@icloud.com> References: <13B3850E-0FAB-4BC6-A1C6-6C0F6EBF9DA8@icloud.com> Message-ID: Hello, to answer your question on iPhone it is sort of accessible with voiceover and it is OK with macOS. But if you want the optimal accessibility you can download the Google dock as a Microsoft Word document. As you can do that through Google Docs. If you have any other questions relating to Google and voiceover please feel free to reach out to me at any time. Thank you and have a great day Elana Elana Elizabeth Charles Secretary National Federation of the Blind Brown County chapter Secretary Wisconsin Association of blind students a proud division of the NFB of Wisconsin Secretary Legislative and Self Advocacy committee NABS Email: Elana.c03 at gmail.com > On Apr 22, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Pierluca Balestra via NABS-L wrote: > > Is Google Docs accessible to VoiceOver? > > Pierluca Balestra > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elana.c03%40gmail.com From plb32007 at icloud.com Thu Apr 22 19:30:03 2021 From: plb32007 at icloud.com (Pierluca Balestra) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:30:03 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and VoiceOver Message-ID: Thanks Pierluca Balestra From ALewis at nfb.org Thu Apr 22 19:45:56 2021 From: ALewis at nfb.org (Lewis, Anil) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 19:45:56 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] IT Accessibility Internship Message-ID: IT Accessibility Internship Internship Description The State of Maryland Assistive Technology Program seeks a self-directed unpaid IT Accessibility intern with a passion for inclusive technology, collaboration, and creative problem-solving. 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From plb32007 at icloud.com Thu Apr 22 20:05:12 2021 From: plb32007 at icloud.com (Pierluca Balestra) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:05:12 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible Audio Editor Message-ID: <1FF13D9A-C50E-45BE-A28E-0B17DAA19355@icloud.com> What audio editor works best with VoiceOver? -Pierluca Balestra From asiaevans102897 at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 20:57:34 2021 From: asiaevans102897 at gmail.com (Asia Quinones-Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:57:34 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and VoiceOver In-Reply-To: <13B3850E-0FAB-4BC6-A1C6-6C0F6EBF9DA8@icloud.com> References: <13B3850E-0FAB-4BC6-A1C6-6C0F6EBF9DA8@icloud.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plb32007 at icloud.com Thu Apr 22 21:05:28 2021 From: plb32007 at icloud.com (Pierluca Balestra) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:05:28 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and VoiceOver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D488A29-ED49-4E17-AC62-48E28C72C128@icloud.com> When I try to use Google Docs VoiceOver will get stuck in the tool bar unless I use the item chooser. Pierluca Balestra > On Apr 22, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Asia Quinones-Evans via NABS-L wrote: > >  > Yes Google Docs is accessible with Voice Over. The only issue that there is when you want to backspace a letter voice over does not announce the letter that you are deleting. It will announce selection deleted. I spoke to Google about this and they told me that they know about that issue and have looked into fixing it. The Google Drive app though has had a bug in it lately so you have to click on a folder and than click back to sometimes fix the issue. Or you could wait a few minutes for the app to refresh and than it will work properly. I hope this information is helpful. > Asia from Ohio > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Pierluca Balestra via NABS-L > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 1:11 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Pierluca Balestra > Subject: [NABS-L] Google Docs and VoiceOver > > Is Google Docs accessible to VoiceOver? > > Pierluca Balestra > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/asiaevans102897%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/plb32007%40icloud.com From oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 01:58:09 2021 From: oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com (Real talk with Oscar Josue Montiel) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:58:09 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] YouTube link for audiences Message-ID: Good evening: Below is the YouTube link for audiences they just want to just kick back and relax and listen to a few NFL fans and podcast or‘s talk about the NFL draft for the respective teams that they are a fan of. It is also not too late to let me know if you’re interested in joining my podcast for next weeks draft. Just send me an email. Letting me know that you were interested, I am currently hosting a meet and greet with my cohosts tomorrow at 7:30 p.m. Eastern to discuss more in depth about the draft I can potentially have two more join us for tomorrow. But I can also host another meet and greet if necessary. But here is the link: https://youtu.be/tVHaMGxy5qI Oscar Montiel From elana.c03 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 02:24:09 2021 From: elana.c03 at gmail.com (Elana Charles) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:24:09 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible Audio Editor In-Reply-To: <1FF13D9A-C50E-45BE-A28E-0B17DAA19355@icloud.com> References: <1FF13D9A-C50E-45BE-A28E-0B17DAA19355@icloud.com> Message-ID: Good evening, to answer your question a pretty good Audio editor that works with voiceover I’m actually going to recommend two of them. Audacity and Amadeus Pro Mac. There’s not really a audio editor for iPhone. So these are the recommendations that I have for audio editing. Personally I use audacity because audacity is free compared to Amadeus Pro which you do have to pay for. I hope this answers your question and if you have any questions please feel free to reach out to me thanks and have a great day Elana Sent from my iPhone Elana Elizabeth Charles Secretary Wisconsin Association of blind students a proud division of the national Federation of the blind of Wisconsin Secretary national Federation of the blind brown county chapter Secretary of the legislative and self advocacy committee national Association of blind students Email Elana.c03 at gmail.com > On Apr 22, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Pierluca Balestra via NABS-L wrote: > > What audio editor works best with VoiceOver? > > -Pierluca Balestra > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elana.c03%40gmail.com From jsoro824 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 14:16:34 2021 From: jsoro824 at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 10:16:34 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible Audio Editor In-Reply-To: References: <1FF13D9A-C50E-45BE-A28E-0B17DAA19355@icloud.com> Message-ID: Reaper is another option for OSX, and Hokusai is accessible on iOS.--Joe On 4/22/21, Elana Charles via NABS-L wrote: > Good evening, to answer your question a pretty good Audio editor that works > with voiceover I’m actually going to recommend two of them. Audacity and > Amadeus Pro Mac. There’s not really a audio editor for iPhone. So these are > the recommendations that I have for audio editing. Personally I use audacity > because audacity is free compared to Amadeus Pro which you do have to pay > for. I hope this answers your question and if you have any questions please > feel free to reach out to me thanks and have a great day > Elana > Sent from my iPhone > Elana Elizabeth Charles > Secretary Wisconsin Association of blind students a proud division of the > national Federation of the blind of Wisconsin > Secretary national Federation of the blind brown county chapter > Secretary of the legislative and self advocacy committee national > Association of blind students > Email Elana.c03 at gmail.com > >> On Apr 22, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Pierluca Balestra via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> What audio editor works best with VoiceOver? >> >> -Pierluca Balestra >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elana.c03%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro824%40gmail.com > From plb32007 at icloud.com Fri Apr 23 14:24:34 2021 From: plb32007 at icloud.com (Pierluca Balestra) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 10:24:34 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Accessible Audio Editor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C7253E0-7CD9-4EA5-9BAB-527671642D5F@icloud.com> Is the IOS one free? Pierluca Balestra > On Apr 23, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Joe Orozco via NABS-L wrote: > > Reaper is another option for OSX, and Hokusai is accessible on iOS.--Joe > >> On 4/22/21, Elana Charles via NABS-L wrote: >> Good evening, to answer your question a pretty good Audio editor that works >> with voiceover I’m actually going to recommend two of them. Audacity and >> Amadeus Pro Mac. There’s not really a audio editor for iPhone. So these are >> the recommendations that I have for audio editing. Personally I use audacity >> because audacity is free compared to Amadeus Pro which you do have to pay >> for. I hope this answers your question and if you have any questions please >> feel free to reach out to me thanks and have a great day >> Elana >> Sent from my iPhone >> Elana Elizabeth Charles >> Secretary Wisconsin Association of blind students a proud division of the >> national Federation of the blind of Wisconsin >> Secretary national Federation of the blind brown county chapter >> Secretary of the legislative and self advocacy committee national >> Association of blind students >> Email Elana.c03 at gmail.com >> >>> On Apr 22, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Pierluca Balestra via NABS-L >>> wrote: >>> >>> What audio editor works best with VoiceOver? >>> >>> -Pierluca Balestra >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elana.c03%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jsoro824%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/plb32007%40icloud.com From QSFord at outlook.com Sat Apr 24 02:36:42 2021 From: QSFord at outlook.com (Qualik Ford) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:36:42 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] South east game night Message-ID: Reminder, This is the Saturday event you don’t want to miss! I mean who turns down laughter, fun, games, music, and prizes! Southeast Game Night The Southeast Collaboration invites you to a fun-filled afternoon of networking and gaming on Saturday, April 24th, from 3 to 5 PM EST. This dynamic event Will be hosted and sponsored by the student division boards of Maryland, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina. we Will be bringing you a lot of energy, Smiles, and laughter. It’ll be like walking out of a build a bear! There will be icebreakers, and humorous philosophical discussions. This will be followed by rounds of song quiz and 5-Second Rule. where might this be held? On our favorite virtual platform: Of course! Clubhouse? No the other one! Skype? No that’s a relevant! Oh! You mean Zoom! Yuck! LOL we love you Zoom! And even better, the event is free to attend. We’d love for you to come join us. And who knows? You may even win one of our prizes. Zoom Link: https://zoom.us/j/95606203998 “The Power to change the world comes from the power to change ourselves.“ From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Sat Apr 24 15:52:04 2021 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 15:52:04 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee One Week Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <001201d72ef5$bb087d80$31197880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Carly, Thank you for sharing that. I think I share the same sentiment. I cannot live in a world where the National Federation of the Blind has not influenced the way we think and feel about blindness. Such a world does not exist. I cannot properly put myself in a frame of mind to say what life would be like without the Federation because the reality is that our lives have all been touched by the Federation, as have the systems with which we interact. What is a tangible difference, though, is the way I feel when I hear the stories of other blind people, and I realize that I'm not the only one. Additionally, I am glad that I can call a fellow Federationist when something terrible happens and get a reminder that I didn't deserve to be treated a certain way, or that something doesn't have to stay the way that it is. Keep the faith, and stay close! Aloha, Justin Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury he/him/his Second Vice President | National Association of Blind Students    A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind (808) 797-8606 president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org If you need help with a current accessibility barrier in school, visit: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXoK5sWCpBjvAu4EMOANUufEoJPyUlu4QeJnMB6pIdeohmsg/viewform   If you have a story about an accessibility barrier you faced in higher education, please tell your story here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf68TacBetKMAHZcMhGJLmYgeWDIjjpSm9Sz1OUwYKxzsIEAg/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1 -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:28 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; 'National Association of Blind Students Mailing List' Cc: Carly Mihalakis Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee One Week Reminder Good morning, Justin and everyone, For me, it has always been really helpful to learn about people whom have had to fight the same struggle for person hood as we do. It was always really helpful to me to learn about how those whom have gone before us did it, what worked and what didn't and that body of lived experience has always lighted my way, not that I've reached anything grandiose but in little incidentals it is from my predessors in that familiar struggle for person hood that I draw emotional strength and courage to consider not just myself in this fight but others of our group since of course, their person hood is important, too. All of us, all of blind people. At 10:11 AM 4/11/2021, Justin Young via NABS-L wrote: >Hi All, > > > >Hoping this message finds you all well! Please join us next Sunday, >April 18 at 8pm eastern for the next Legislative & Self-Advocacy >Committee (LSAC) meeting. For this month's conversation, we will be >discussing strategies how to keep our cool in the moment of advocating >for ourselves. At times I'm sure we all have faced stressful or as some >may also call them blood boiling moments while trying to advocate for >our rights as blind people. This might happen with professors, in >social gatherings, traveling in airports, train stations, etc. So we >would like you to consider these stressful situations & how you dealt >with them in the moment while they were happening and be willing to share the techniques that worked best for you to resolve them. > > > >It's our hope by holding this conversation during this month's LSAC >call, we all can learn a new strategy to help us become greater >self-advocates ensuring we as blind people have the same rights as others! > > > >The Zoom information to join us is the following: > > > >Join Zoom Link: > >https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 > >One Tap Mobile: > >+16468769923,,4678833687# > > > >Thanks & look forward to chatting with you all next Sunday at 8pm eastern! > > > >Justin Young > >Co-Chair, Legislative & Self-Advocacy Committee, National Association >of Blind Students > >Treasurer, National Federation of the Blind of New York State. > >Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of New York State, >Rochester Chapter > > > >_______________________________________________ >NABS-L mailing list >NABS-L at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast. >net _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 16:29:54 2021 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 09:29:54 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Fwd: You're invited! CABS call on consent and relationships References: Message-ID: <6CA8BEE9-A052-4078-A3D4-F84E9FFB6B57@gmail.com> Happening today! Get those questions in. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Cricket X. Bidleman" > Date: April 19, 2021 at 10:52:15 PDT > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: You're invited! CABS call on consent and relationships > > Hey folks, > > I hope your April is still going well. Not much in terms of > announcements. We still have our consent and relationships call on > Saturday with the phenomenal Lisamaria Martinez. This is a call for > blind students, so feel free to invite your blind student friends. > Feel free to submit anonymous questions on this one-field Google form: > https://forms.gle/dVuUTSY57XNnNJTE7 > > you can also email me with questions/comments/concerns. And join us on > Saturday, April 24th at 4:00 PM Pacific. Here’s the Zoom info: > > Hi there, > Cricket Bidleman is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. > Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: > https://stanford.zoom.us/j/98178172488?pwd=TzlJWmpkc3RUczZFcko0QnN3TWN4dz09 > Password: 851785 > Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +18333021536,,98178172488# or > +16507249799,,98178172488# > Or Telephone: > Dial: +1 650 724 9799 (US, Canada, Caribbean Toll) or +1 833 302 > 1536 (US, Canada, Caribbean Toll Free) > Meeting ID: 981 7817 2488 > Password: 851785 > International numbers available: > https://stanford.zoom.us/u/ahWKHQTIx > Meeting ID: 981 7817 2488 > Password: 851785 > SIP: > 98178172488 at zoomcrc.com > Password: 851785 > Best, > Cricket (on behalf of the CABS board) > > > > > -- > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > Stanford University | Class of 2021 > BA Candidate | Communications > Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science > Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) > President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Sat Apr 24 17:07:06 2021 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:07:06 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Help NABS Become a Best Seller!! In-Reply-To: <835E44BC-E85C-4559-8813-794273CDB833@gmail.com> References: <835E44BC-E85C-4559-8813-794273CDB833@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Robert, I would love to win a Bluetooth keyboard! I just made myself Bacon Fried Rice for breakfast, and then I wrote up the recipe for it. It's amazing what we all know how to cook. We just need to take the time to write it down. I'm looking forward to the final product. Aloha, Justin Justin Mark Hideaki Salisbury he/him/his Second Vice President | National Association of Blind Students    A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind (808) 797-8606 president at alumni.ecu.edu | www.nabslink.org If you need help with a current accessibility barrier in school, visit: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXoK5sWCpBjvAu4EMOANUufEoJPyUlu4QeJnMB6pIdeohmsg/viewform   If you have a story about an accessibility barrier you faced in higher education, please tell your story here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf68TacBetKMAHZcMhGJLmYgeWDIjjpSm9Sz1OUwYKxzsIEAg/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1 -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Robert Parsons via NABS-L Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 6:46 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Robert Parsons Subject: [NABS-L] Help NABS Become a Best Seller!! > Good Morning NABSters! > > > > I am so excited for the beautiful weather on the horizon. Something that goes great with beautiful weather is delicious food. As you members of our national student division are all culinary innovators, it would be a huge deal if any of you could take the time to submit a copy of your favorite recipe to the below link. Our fundraising effort for national convention, “NABS Nuggets,” is shaping up to be an amazing collection of some of the creations of our members, possibly becoming a personal bestseller if we can get your favorite dishes to feature in it. > > > > Of course, the NABS fundraising committee is always hard at work with promoting our mission and creating connections with organizations and individuals that are willing to support our work for blind students. I’m happy to inform you all that we received a generous donation from the Western Michigan University college bookstore. The donation is a Bluetooth wireless keyboard. Thus, the NABS fundraising committee has added the incentive that the 10th student to submit a recipe will be awarded the keyboard. Remember, you can submit more than one recipe and we take any type of cuisine or meal style you choose to share with us. Please, help us grow NABS and improve everyone’s kitchens. > > > > > > Link: https://forms.gle/F3fGbHsP2FUWqGoY8 > > With Love > > > > Robert Parsons > > Board Member| National Association of Blind Students > > Board Member| National Federation of the Blind of Michigan > > www.nabslink.org _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 21:30:00 2021 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 16:30:00 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Final Reminder! april Membership Call--NFB Training Centers 101 Message-ID: Hey NABSters! We hope this message finds you relaxing in the midst of a self-care study break. If not, take a study break and read the below message at the very least! 😊 Sunday, April 25 at 9:00 PM EST, we will be discussing the ins and outs of each of our National Federation of the Blind training centers: BLIND, Inc., the Colorado Center for the Blind, and the Louisiana Center for the Blind. We will have both staff and student guests from each center joining us to answer any questions you may have, so come prepared! Join in our conversation using the information below: Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Meeting ID: 467 883 3687 One tap mobile +13017158592,,4678833687# US (Germantown) +13126266799,,4678833687# US (Chicago) If you’ve got questions about the call or would like to pose an anonymous question to our guest panel, email Elizabeth Rouse at Elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com. Hope to see you there! Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Rouse She/her/hers President | Iowa Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | NABS Outreach Committee Treasurer | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com 563-210-1854 From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 22:03:54 2021 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 15:03:54 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism Message-ID: Hey folks, I'm doing a project for my class on Comparative Studies in Race and Ethnicity (CSRE), and would love to get some perspectives on racism in the blind community, particularly in blindness advocacy organizations. Please reply if you're interested. Thanks. Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) From ctate2076 at att.net Mon Apr 26 22:07:00 2021 From: ctate2076 at att.net (Camille Tate) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 18:07:00 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <015d01d73ae8$7c39deb0$74ad9c10$@att.net> Hi: I would love to participate in your study. My contact info is: Camille Tate Ctate2076 at att.net 321 372 4899 Camille -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:04 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism Hey folks, I'm doing a project for my class on Comparative Studies in Race and Ethnicity (CSRE), and would love to get some perspectives on racism in the blind community, particularly in blindness advocacy organizations. Please reply if you're interested. Thanks. Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ctate2076%40att.net From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 14:59:19 2021 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 07:59:19 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism In-Reply-To: <015d01d73ae8$7c39deb0$74ad9c10$@att.net> References: <015d01d73ae8$7c39deb0$74ad9c10$@att.net> Message-ID: Hi Camille, That's great. Thanks for replying... I'll be in touch in the next few days. If anyone else is interested, let me know. The more the merrier. Best, Cricket -- Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) Stanford University | Class of 2021 BA Candidate | Communications Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) On 4/26/21, Camille Tate via NABS-L wrote: > Hi: > > I would love to participate in your study. My contact info is: > > Camille Tate > Ctate2076 at att.net > 321 372 4899 > > Camille > > -----Original Message----- > From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Cricket X. Bidleman > via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:04 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman > Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism > > Hey folks, > > I'm doing a project for my class on Comparative Studies in Race and > Ethnicity (CSRE), and would love to get some perspectives on racism in the > blind community, particularly in blindness advocacy organizations. > Please reply if you're interested. Thanks. > > Best, > Cricket > > -- > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > Stanford University | Class of 2021 > BA Candidate | Communications > Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director of > Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) > President > | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ctate2076%40att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > From nmabuelhawa at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 05:04:14 2021 From: nmabuelhawa at gmail.com (Naim Abu-ElHawa) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:04:14 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism In-Reply-To: References: <015d01d73ae8$7c39deb0$74ad9c10$@att.net> Message-ID: Hi. I was trying to figure out how to reply off list, but I would definitely be interested as well. I am Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa, an undergraduate student at George Mason University studying global affairs with a concentration in the Middle East. I can be reached either via phone or email. Preferably via phone to expedite the process at: (202) 848-8932. Otherwise via email at this email address: NMAbuelhawa at gmail.com. Many thanks and much respect. Sincerely, Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, Cricket X. Bidleman via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi Camille, > > That's great. Thanks for replying... I'll be in touch in the next few > days. If anyone else is interested, let me know. The more the merrier. > > Best, > Cricket > > -- > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > Stanford University | Class of 2021 > BA Candidate | Communications > Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science > Director of Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University > (ASSU) > President | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) > > > On 4/26/21, Camille Tate via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi: > > > > I would love to participate in your study. My contact info is: > > > > Camille Tate > > Ctate2076 at att.net > > 321 372 4899 > > > > Camille > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Cricket X. > Bidleman > > via NABS-L > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:04 PM > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> > > Cc: Cricket X. Bidleman > > Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism > > > > Hey folks, > > > > I'm doing a project for my class on Comparative Studies in Race and > > Ethnicity (CSRE), and would love to get some perspectives on racism in > the > > blind community, particularly in blindness advocacy organizations. > > Please reply if you're interested. Thanks. > > > > Best, > > Cricket > > > > -- > > Cricket X. Bidleman (she/her/hers) > > Stanford University | Class of 2021 > > BA Candidate | Communications > > Accessibility Consultant | Stanford University Computer Science Director > of > > Communications | Associated Students of Stanford University (ASSU) > > President > > | California Association of Blind Students (CABS) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ctate2076%40att.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > cricketbidleman%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ > nmabuelhawa%40gmail.com > From andrehill6188 at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 05:12:36 2021 From: andrehill6188 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_Hill?=) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 01:12:36 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Interviewing for final project on race and racism In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am so interested in participating. My number is 4439426770 and my email is andrehill6188 at gmail.com From clearinghouse at miusa.org Wed Apr 28 15:00:00 2021 From: clearinghouse at miusa.org (MIUSA Clearinghouse) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Paid remote internship promoting international education in the disability community Message-ID: Dear NABS, Good morning! I’m hoping that some of you will apply for this amazing opportunity. The National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange (NCDE) announces the second annual Access to Exchange Externship. This is an opportunity for a young person interested in: - a remote internship with Mobility International USA including a stipend, - learning more about a career in international education, - and increasing the participation of people with disabilities in study or volunteer abroad. We strongly prefer applications from people with disabilities who themselves have studied or volunteered abroad in some capacity. I am also really excited to share that this year we are offering five externships for U.S. individuals, and another five externships for international non-U.S. individuals. Please share widely with your networks. Applications are due by 11:59 PM PDT May 21, which is a Friday. Here is the press release , which links to separate information, requirements and applications for U.S. and non-U.S. applicants. Here is what our externs did last year. Best Justin Harford (he/him/his) Program Coordinator (NCDE) Mobility International USA (MIUSA) 132 E Broadway Suite 343 Eugene OR 97401 541-343-1284 ext 1014 (voice) jharford at miusa.org (email) From oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 21:43:13 2021 From: oscarjmontiel37 at gmail.com (Real talk with Oscar Josue Montiel) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:43:13 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] 2021 NFL draft day one live reactions Message-ID: Hello to all: For those that are interested in watching NFL fans live reactions to the NFL draft here is the YouTube link so that way you can tell us how you’re feeling in the comment section. Everyone and anyone is welcome! Let’s have fun! https://youtu.be/ZvEM46AZlas Oscar Montiel From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 13:00:00 2021 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:00:00 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] The NABS Latest and Greatest--Delivered Right to your Inbox! Message-ID: Salutations, students! Can you believe we’ve already reached the end of April? Seems like just yesterday we were celebrating the end of 2020… But, it’s the end of the month, so you know what that means. The April edition of NABS Notes is live! Catch up on our latest initiatives, and explore something new. You never know when you’ll find a new way to get involved. Remember, we couldn’t accomplish all that we do without you! Access today’s release using the following link or see the attached document. https://nabslink.org/content/nabs-notes-april-2021 As always, if you’ve got questions, please feel free to reach out to a NABS leader at any time. Happy spring, Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Rouse She/her/hers President | Iowa Association of Blind Students Co-Chair | NABS Outreach Committee Treasurer | National Association of Blind Students A proud division of the National Federation of the Blind www.nabslink.org elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com 563-210-1854 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NABS Notes_April 2021.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 19868 bytes Desc: not available URL: From moabs.president at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 15:38:33 2021 From: moabs.president at gmail.com (Seyoon Choi) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 10:38:33 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] You're Invited: Meet The 2021-2022 Missouri Association of Blind Students officers & board Members, & Fun Virtual Activity, Thursday at 7 PM CDT Message-ID: Happy end of the school year, everyone! As summer temperatures rise and finals loom nearer, it’s a busy time for all students. The Missouri Association of Blind students is thrilled to invite you to our next meeting, on Thursday May 6th, at 7 PM CDT. All are welcome to join with the zoom info given below. You’ll get a chance to meet our newly elected officers and board members, and engage in a fun-filled song quiz afterwords. We invite everyone to come, even if music isn’t exactly your forte. Hope to see everyone there, Join Zoom Meeting: https://slu.zoom.us/j/95774977854 One tap mobile +13017158592,95774977854# US (Washington DC) +13126266799,95774977854# US (Chicago) Warmly Seyoon Choi, he/him/his President Missouri Association of Blind Students MOABS.president at gmail.com