From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Wed May 1 07:14:33 2024 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Wed, 01 May 2024 03:14:33 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Assistance needed to find jobs for a couple of friends Message-ID: <6631ebdb.0c0a0220.e318.3968@mx.google.com> Hi Becky, OK let me ask you a couple of questions so I can try and understand your situation better. First, what are you getting your master's degree in? Second, what kind of job are you looking into applying for? Third, you say you're currently working towards your master's degree, but you still need to be working. Does this mean that you're financially responsible for paying for your master's? I just want to clarify this so I can better understand your exact situation so I can try and help you better in terms of offering potential suggestions. For me, I am currently pursuing my master's degree in language translation and interpreting from NYU, and if all goes well, I should be graduating from the program next spring (2025). I am not working right now because my parents are, and have always been, paying for me to attend graduate school; this is the reason I'm wondering whether you're paying for school yourself, or whether you have a family member, friend, or your voc rehab agency paying. Like most (if not all) recent master's degree recipients, I do plan on working after graduation. However, it appears that I may have to start my own business if I want to work as an interpreter rather than just finding employers for job interviews. I should know this all too well, since we just covered business practices last week in my Court Interpreting class. At this point, I am strongly considering court interpreting as a possibility because I've really enjoyed the course I've been taking this semester, and also because I'd rather work as an interpreter rather than a translator. For anyone who may not be familiar with the difference, interpreters work with spoken content across two or more different languages. Translation is the same but with written content. I have a couple of reasons why I prefer interpreting over translation: First because interpreters are generally paid higher than translators, and secondly because increasing numbers of language service providers (LSP's), which are companies who work with translators, are increasingly relying on computer assisted translation (CAT) tools software to get the job done. Sadly, many of these programs are not accessible to those of us who are totally blind and use screen readers, which is also the reason why many blind people work as interpreters. That being said, there are also many factors that play into the practical work experience. For example, I do plan to pursue some kind of internship in interpreting given my relative inexperience in the practical sense before I start working professionally. Many court interpreters also become certified in one or more of their working languages (state and/or federal) either before or during the time they start working professionally, which is what I plan to do before I actually start my own business and then looking for potential clients. Hopefully I've not overwhelmed you too much by delving into my own personal situation, but I do hope the information I've shared will help you elaborate on yours. Right now I feel your initial message is rather vague as far as expressing exactly what you need, and I'm really not sure I (or possibly anyone else, for that matter) would really be able to help you right now based on all the information you've provided right now alone. Have you ever studied business practices in your chosen career path in your master's degree program? If not, then I think this is something you should definitely look into, either by taking a relevant class if you haven't done so already and if your program offers one, and/or possibly even by seeking out a professor you really like to ask him/her about business practices. I think it's really important to know just what to expect exactly once you actually are in the workplace, regardless of which field of study you're pursuing your master's in. Good luck pursuing your master's and with your employment journey, Sami On Apr 30, 2024 7:04 PM, Rebecca Sabo via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi > My name is Becky Sabo.  I am sorry I am coming to this discussion late.  I am having the same problem.  I in my masters program but I need to fine employment.  I keep applying also but the problem you need a masters degree or at least five years or more.  All I can do is keep trying .  If you have any suggestions I would appreciate it . > Becky Sabo > > > On Apr 22, 2024, at 11:41 AM, Elizabeth Sprecher via NABS-L wrote: > > > > Hi Mariya, > > I am going through the same thing, trying to find jobs in the same things. > > I have been on Linked-in, Indeed, and have been applying, but have been > > rejected. Maybe you might find something on those websites. I'm trying to > > find something remote, however the jobs list mostly sends job postings that > > are in person, so that is not helpful for me. > > I would like ideas from anyone else about not only finding jobs, but how to > > be convincing enough to have an interview. > > That is the hardest part of the process at this time, making it past the > > application process. > > If those websites are not helpful for you, I would suggest reaching out to > > connections you know in your field, asking them if they might know someone > > who needs employees with your experience, and then contacting them and > > sending your resume. Hopefully they will look at your resume in the stacks > > of resumes they already have. > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 3:20 PM David Andrews via NABS-L > > > wrote: > > > >> We have two job-related lists on nfbnet.org, job-listings and > >> job-discussions. > >> > >> To subscribe send mail to job-discussions-subscribe at nfbnet.org or > >> job-discussions-subscribe at nfbnet.org and leave everything blank. The > >> first just has listings, the second allows for questions, discussions etc. > >> > >> You can also go to www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ and find the two > >> lists with all others. Fill out form, you have five minutes to fill > >> out form, and submit to server before it times out. > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> At 02:49 PM 4/21/2024, you wrote: > >>> Good afternoon to all. I am writing to get some advice and/or > >>> resources for job hunting. I have a couple of friends that either > >>> have their own business, or they have no work experience. They want > >>> to do something with customer service on the phone or assistive > >>> technology or accessibility consultation. Any advice would be > >>> greatly appreciated. > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Mariya Vasileva > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NABS-L mailing list > >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >> NABS-L: > >> > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/beckyasabo%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborne97%40gmail.com From stanley7709 at gmail.com Wed May 1 09:56:29 2024 From: stanley7709 at gmail.com (Steve Cook) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 05:56:29 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] May Events 4 All Message-ID: <017e01da9bad$d723b520$856b1f60$@gmail.com> Hi All, Feel free to share this message with everyone! Everyone is invited to the below events in May. Below you will find the audio described movies and trivia for this month. Below the Zoom information to join us, you will find a summary for each movie! All events take place at 8:00 PM eastern. Friday, May 3, 2024 Audio described movie Poor Things (2023) Friday, May 10, 2024 Audio described movie Anatomy Of A Fall (2023) Friday, May 17, 2024 Audio described movie Carrie (1976) Friday, May 31, 2024 Trivia Night To make suggestions for upcoming movies or to request a weekly reminder message, send a message to movies at nfbofsc.org I have created a list serve for the discussion of audio description on all platforms! Places to obtain audio described content including Audio Vault, Blind Mice Mart and any other place you know of. Feel free to announce upcoming events that pertain to audio description content for everyone to attend or in certain areas. To subscribe, send a message to the following Email address with subscribe in the subject line. AudioDescriptionDiscussion+subscribe at googlegroups.com https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8032543777?pwd=QTVQd2RzN3l6QnNmZ0FmSnp6NG8vQT09 Meeting ID: 803 254 3777 Passcode: 124578 One tap mobile +19292056099,,8032543777# Poor Things In Victorian London,[n 1] the medical student Max McCandles becomes an assistant to the eccentric surgeon Godwin Baxter. Max falls in love with Godwin's ward, Bella, a childlike young woman. Godwin reveals that Bella's body is that of a woman who was pregnant and killed herself by leaping off a bridge. Godwin then replaced the woman's brain with that of her fetus, giving her an infant's mind, and named her Bella Baxter. With Godwin's encouragement, Max asks for Bella's hand in marriage. Bella accepts, but as her intelligence rapidly develops, she becomes curious about the outside world and herself. She soon discovers masturbation and sexual pleasure. She runs off with Duncan Wedderburn, a debauched lawyer whom Godwin hired to overhaul the nuptial contract. Deciding to let her go, Godwin begins a new experiment with a young woman, Felicity, who matures more slowly than Bella. Bella and Duncan embark on a grand journey, beginning in Lisbon, where they have frequent intercourse. Bella is mistakenly addressed as "Victoria Blessington" by a fellow hotel guest. When Bella becomes difficult for him to control, Duncan smuggles her onto a cruise ship. Bella befriends two passengers who open her mind to philosophy. Duncan attempts to stunt her growth to no avail. He becomes exasperated and indulges in drinking and gambling. During a stop at Alexandria, Bella witnesses the suffering of the poor and becomes distraught. Wishing to help them, she entrusts Duncan's winnings to unscrupulous members of the crew, who falsely promise to give it to them. Unable to afford the rest of the trip, Bella and Duncan are dropped off at Marseilles and make their way to Paris. Seeking money and accommodation, Bella begins working at a brothel. Enraged, Duncan breaks down and Bella abandons him. At the brothel, she comes under the tutelage of Madame Swiney and begins a relationship with a prostitute, Toinette, who introduces her to socialism. Now terminally ill, Godwin asks Max to bring Bella to him. Max finds her after tracking down Duncan, who has been institutionalized. Back in London, Bella reconciles with Godwin and renews her plans to marry Max. The wedding is interrupted by Duncan and General Alfie Blessington. The latter, addressing Bella as Victoria, declares that they were married before her disappearance and that he has come to reclaim her. Bella abandons Max to learn of her past life, but discovers Alfie's violent and sadistic nature and realizes Victoria committed suicide to escape him. Alfie confines Bella to his mansion. He threatens her at gunpoint to submit to genital mutilation and a subsequent rape, demanding she drink a sedative. She tosses the sedative in his face, and after a struggle, Alfie accidentally shoots himself in the foot before passing out. Godwin dies peacefully with Bella and Max at his side. Bella follows in Godwin's footsteps by becoming a surgeon with the help of Max and Toinette and transplants a goat's brain into Alfie's head. Cast The film stars Emma Stone, Mark Ruffalo, Willem Dafoe, Ramy Youssef, Christopher Abbott and Jerrod Carmichael. Emma Stone as Bella Baxter Mark Ruffalo as Duncan Wedderburn Willem Dafoe as Dr. Godwin Baxter Ramy Youssef as Max McCandles Christopher Abbott as Alfie Blessington Suzy Bemba as Toinette Jerrod Carmichael as Harry Astley Kathryn Hunter as Swiney Vicki Pepperdine as Mrs. Prim Margaret Qualley as Felicity Hanna Schygulla as Martha von Kurtzroc Keeley Forsyth as Allison the maid John Locke as David the butler Kate Handford as Kitty Owen Good as Gerald Damien Bonnard as Father Tom Stourton as Steward Raphaël Thiéry as Saveur the butcher Wayne Brett as Priest Carminho as Fado singing woman Jerskin Fendrix as Lisbon restaurant musician Anatomy Of A Fall In an isolated mountain chalet near Grenoble, novelist Sandra Voyter decides to reschedule her interview with a female student because her husband, university lecturer Samuel Maleski, plays music loudly in their attic, disrupting the interview. After the student drives away from the chalet, Samuel and Sandra's visually impaired son, Daniel, takes a walk outside with his guide dog Snoop. When they return home, Daniel finds Samuel dead from an apparent fall. Sandra insists that the fall must have been accidental. Her old friend and lawyer, Vincent, suggests the possibility of suicide, while Sandra recalls her husband's attempt to overdose on aspirin six months earlier, after going off antidepressants. After an investigation, Daniel's conflicting accounts of what happened shortly before his father's death, combined with the revelation that Samuel sustained a head wound before his body hit the ground and an audio recording of a fight by Samuel and Sandra the previous day, Sandra is indicted on charges of homicide. During the trial, Sandra's defense team claims Samuel fell from the attic window and hit his head on a shed below, while the prosecution posits that Sandra hit him with a blunt object and pushed him from the second-floor balcony. During a courtroom argument with Samuel's psychiatrist, Sandra admits her resentment towards her husband due to his partial responsibility for the accident that led to Daniel's impaired vision. In the recorded fight, Samuel accuses Sandra of plagiarism, infidelity and exerting control over his life, before their protracted argument turns physically violent. The prosecution claims that all the violence came from Sandra. She counters that while she had slapped Samuel, the rest of the violence heard was her husband beating on himself. After Sandra admits to an affair with a woman the year before Samuel's death, the prosecution argues that Samuel's loud music indicated jealousy over Sandra's flirting with the interviewer, leading to the physical confrontation later. The prosecutor also notes Sandra's pattern of writing personal conflicts into her stories, and how murdering her husband mirrors a minor character's thoughts from her most recent novel. In turn, Sandra protests that one recording does not represent the nature of their relationship, nor do the words of a character in a novel reflect her own inclinations. A distraught Daniel insists on testifying before closing arguments the following Monday. The judge lays strict ground rules to prevent anyone from influencing his testimony and brings in a court monitor, Marge. Daniel then asks that Sandra leave their house for the weekend so he can be alone with Marge and Snoop. He recalls that when Samuel overdosed, Snoop also fell sick, possibly due to having eaten Samuel's vomit. He then deliberately feeds Snoop aspirin and finds it has the same effect, which aligns with Sandra's testimony. Daniel confides to Marge his anguish, and she advises him that if he doesn't know what is really true, he can instead decide what's true for him. On the witness stand, Daniel says he can comprehend his father taking his own life but not the murder scenario. He says that when he and Samuel were driving Snoop to the veterinarian, Samuel spoke about the need to be prepared that those he loves will die and to know that his life will go on, which Daniel now interprets as his father's own suicidal thoughts. Sandra is acquitted after Daniel's testimony. When she returns home, Daniel tells her he was afraid of her homecoming and she says that she was too; the two embrace. As Sandra heads to bed, she lingers at a photo of her and Samuel before falling asleep with Snoop. Cast >From left to right: Sandra Hüller, Swann Arlaud, Antoine Reinartz, Samuel Theis, Jehnny Beth, and Messi. Sandra Hüller as Sandra Voyter[5] Swann Arlaud as Vincent Renzi[11] Milo Machado-Graner as Daniel Maleski[11] Antoine Reinartz as the prosecutor[11] Samuel Theis as Samuel Maleski[11] Jehnny Beth as Marge Berger[11] Saadia Bentaieb as Nour[11] Camille Rutherford as Zoé Solidor[11] Anne Rotger as the President[11] Sophie Fillières as Monica[11] Messi as Snoop[11] Carrie Sixteen-year-old Carrie White is a shy teenage girl who lives with her fanatically religious and unstable mother, Margaret, and is a loner and bullied by her peers. When Carrie experiences her first period while in school, she panics, having never been told about menstruation. Her classmates laugh at her, as well as throwing tampons and sanitary pads at her, until the gym teacher, Miss Collins, intervenes. Margaret tells Carrie that her period was caused by sin, and locks Carrie in a "prayer closet" to pray to God for forgiveness. At school, Miss Collins reprimands Carrie's tormentors, punishing them with exercise detention, threatening to suspend them and stop them going to prom if they refuse. Carrie's longtime bully, Christine "Chris" Hargensen, eventually refuses and gets banned from the prom. Plotting vengeance against Carrie, Chris and her boyfriend Billy Nolan break into a farm and kill pigs to drain their blood into a bucket, which they place above the school's stage in the gym. Meanwhile, another girl named Sue Snell, a remorseful classmate, asks her handsome and popular boyfriend, Tommy Ross, to invite Carrie to prom. Carrie believes the proposition is a prank, but he insists that it is genuine. Carrie discovers she has telekinesis. Despite Margaret's protests, she prepares for prom. Margaret sees Carrie's telekinetic powers and denounces her as a witch. During prom, Chris and Billy hide under the stage while the other conspirators switch the ballots to ensure that Carrie wins the Prom Queen title. As Carrie stands onstage with Tommy, finally beginning to feel accepted by her peers, Sue realizes Chris and Billy's plan, and tries to intervene. Miss Collins spots Sue and, thinking that she is up to no good, throws her out of the prom. Chris and Billy douse Carrie in the pigs' blood before sneaking out of the school. The empty bucket hits Tommy in the head, and he faints. The crowd is left shocked, speechless, and sympathetic to Carrie's distress, but Carrie hallucinates that everyone is mocking her, believing it was their plan all along. She telekinetically seals the exits and the students are attacked by a fire house, injuring several, including Norma. Miss Collins is crushed by a falling basketball backboard, and Carrie electrocutes her principal and teacher, one of the two bursting into flames, setting the gym on fire. She exits the burning school and seals the doors behind her, trapping staff and classmates. As Carrie walks home, Chris attempts to run her over, but Carrie causes the car to swerve; it rolls and Carrie ruptures the gas tank, the explosion killing Chris and Billy. After Carrie bathes herself at home, Margaret reveals that Carrie was conceived when her drunk husband and Carrie's father, Ralph, raped her, an act that Margaret shamefully admits she enjoyed. She then stabs Carrie in the back with a kitchen knife. Carrie sends knives flying toward her, killing her; then, she destroys the house and perishes. Some time later, Sue, who was the sole survivor of that night, has a nightmare in which she goes to lay flowers on the charred remains of Carrie's home. Upon the remains stands a "For Sale" sign, vandalized in black paint with the words: "Carrie White burns in Hell!" Suddenly, Carrie's bloody arm reaches from beneath the rubble and grabs Sue, who wakes up screaming as her mother tries to comfort her. Cast Sissy Spacek as Carrie White Amy Irving as Sue Snell William Katt as Tommy Ross Nancy Allen as Chris Hargensen John Travolta as Billy Nolan Betty Buckley as Miss Collins P. J. Soles as Norma Sydney Lassick as Mr. Fromm Stefan Gierasch as Mr. Morton Priscilla Pointer as Mrs. Snell Piper Laurie as Margaret White Edie McClurg as Helen Shyres From njackson at nfb.org Wed May 1 13:30:41 2024 From: njackson at nfb.org (Jackson, Delores Nikki) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 13:30:41 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Help build a bigger career fair for blind jobseekers Message-ID: Invite Your Internship Organization to Our Career Fair! 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For financial assistance inquiries, contact NABS Board Member Manahil Jafri at manahiljafri at gmail.Com Best, Shawn From elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com Wed May 1 18:34:11 2024 From: elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 12:34:11 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Assistance needed to find jobs for a couple of friends In-Reply-To: <6631ebdb.0c0a0220.e318.3968@mx.google.com> References: <6631ebdb.0c0a0220.e318.3968@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5250509B-06E7-48AD-8573-20890621B953@gmail.com> Hi all, can you tell me, why it’s like so much easier for cited people to secure jobs a lot faster and have a lot more interviews so much more quickly? I mean, do you have any other reasons besides the fact that we use a screen reader, and it takes longer for us to find things? Also, do you have any advice on fake job postings? Thanks Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2024, at 1:15 AM, Sami Osborne via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Becky, > > > > OK let me ask you a couple of questions so I can try and understand your situation better. > > > > First, what are you getting your master's degree in? Second, what kind of job are you looking into applying for? Third, you say you're currently working towards your master's degree, but you still need to be working. Does this mean that you're financially responsible for paying for your master's? I just want to clarify this so I can better understand your exact situation so I can try and help you better in terms of offering potential suggestions. > > > > For me, I am currently pursuing my master's degree in language translation and interpreting from NYU, and if all goes well, I should be graduating from the program next spring (2025). I am not working right now because my parents are, and have always been, paying for me to attend graduate school; this is the reason I'm wondering whether you're paying for school yourself, or whether you have a family member, friend, or your voc rehab agency paying. Like most (if not all) recent master's degree recipients, I do plan on working after graduation. However, it appears that I may have to start my own business if I want to work as an interpreter rather than just finding employers for job interviews. I should know this all too well, since we just covered business practices last week in my Court Interpreting class. At this point, I am strongly considering court interpreting as a possibility because I've really enjoyed the course I've been taking this semester, and also because I'd rather work as an interpreter rather than a translator. For anyone who may not be familiar with the difference, interpreters work with spoken content across two or more different languages. Translation is the same but with written content. I have a couple of reasons why I prefer interpreting over translation: First because interpreters are generally paid higher than translators, and secondly because increasing numbers of language service providers (LSP's), which are companies who work with translators, are increasingly relying on computer assisted translation (CAT) tools software to get the job done. Sadly, many of these programs are not accessible to those of us who are totally blind and use screen readers, which is also the reason why many blind people work as interpreters. > > > > That being said, there are also many factors that play into the practical work experience. For example, I do plan to pursue some kind of internship in interpreting given my relative inexperience in the practical sense before I start working professionally. Many court interpreters also become certified in one or more of their working languages (state and/or federal) either before or during the time they start working professionally, which is what I plan to do before I actually start my own business and then looking for potential clients. > > > > Hopefully I've not overwhelmed you too much by delving into my own personal situation, but I do hope the information I've shared will help you elaborate on yours. Right now I feel your initial message is rather vague as far as expressing exactly what you need, and I'm really not sure I (or possibly anyone else, for that matter) would really be able to help you right now based on all the information you've provided right now alone. > > > > Have you ever studied business practices in your chosen career path in your master's degree program? If not, then I think this is something you should definitely look into, either by taking a relevant class if you haven't done so already and if your program offers one, and/or possibly even by seeking out a professor you really like to ask him/her about business practices. I think it's really important to know just what to expect exactly once you actually are in the workplace, regardless of which field of study you're pursuing your master's in. > > > > > Good luck pursuing your master's and with your employment journey, > > > > Sami On Apr 30, 2024 7:04 PM, Rebecca Sabo via NABS-L wrote: >> >> Hi >> My name is Becky Sabo. I am sorry I am coming to this discussion late. I am having the same problem. I in my masters program but I need to fine employment. I keep applying also but the problem you need a masters degree or at least five years or more. All I can do is keep trying . If you have any suggestions I would appreciate it . >> Becky Sabo >> >>>> On Apr 22, 2024, at 11:41 AM, Elizabeth Sprecher via NABS-L wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mariya, >>> I am going through the same thing, trying to find jobs in the same things. >>> I have been on Linked-in, Indeed, and have been applying, but have been >>> rejected. Maybe you might find something on those websites. I'm trying to >>> find something remote, however the jobs list mostly sends job postings that >>> are in person, so that is not helpful for me. >>> I would like ideas from anyone else about not only finding jobs, but how to >>> be convincing enough to have an interview. >>> That is the hardest part of the process at this time, making it past the >>> application process. >>> If those websites are not helpful for you, I would suggest reaching out to >>> connections you know in your field, asking them if they might know someone >>> who needs employees with your experience, and then contacting them and >>> sending your resume. Hopefully they will look at your resume in the stacks >>> of resumes they already have. >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 3:20 PM David Andrews via NABS-L > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We have two job-related lists on nfbnet.org, job-listings and >>>> job-discussions. >>>> >>>> To subscribe send mail to job-discussions-subscribe at nfbnet.org or >>>> job-discussions-subscribe at nfbnet.org and leave everything blank. The >>>> first just has listings, the second allows for questions, discussions etc. >>>> >>>> You can also go to www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ and find the two >>>> lists with all others. Fill out form, you have five minutes to fill >>>> out form, and submit to server before it times out. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> At 02:49 PM 4/21/2024, you wrote: >>>>> Good afternoon to all. I am writing to get some advice and/or >>>>> resources for job hunting. I have a couple of friends that either >>>>> have their own business, or they have no work experience. They want >>>>> to do something with customer service on the phone or assistive >>>>> technology or accessibility consultation. Any advice would be >>>>> greatly appreciated. >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Mariya Vasileva >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NABS-L mailing list >>>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> NABS-L: >>>> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/beckyasabo%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborne97%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com From nmabuelhawa at gmail.com Thu May 2 00:25:57 2024 From: nmabuelhawa at gmail.com (Naim Abu-ElHawa) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 20:25:57 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Georgetown University Paid Research Opportunity Attached Message-ID: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Georgetown Blindness and Brain Plasticity Research Ad.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 105661 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com From b.teta2005 at gmail.com Thu May 2 01:20:42 2024 From: b.teta2005 at gmail.com (Bella Teta) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 21:20:42 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Exciting NABS wellness workshop coming up on June 2 at 6PM MDT Message-ID: Greetings, Summer is quickly approaching! Are you into tanning? Participating in travel for vacation? Or just relaxing on the beach? Well, you’re in luck! The National Association of Blind Students will be having a Wellness Workshop to preface our walk-a-ton! Discover the path to wellness with our upcoming workshop featuring wellness professionals, and a time to rejuvenate with meditation. Join us June 2, 2024 from 8-9:30 PM Eastern for this exciting event as we take time to find our inner peace and recognize our health. In conjunction, this will be leading up our annual walk-a-thon and you won’t want to miss that! More information will come regarding this event in the coming weeks. Sincerely, Bella Teta Fundraising committee Co-chair From elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com Thu May 2 00:55:39 2024 From: elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 18:55:39 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Georgetown University Paid Research Opportunity Attached In-Reply-To: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> References: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7443F05C-A557-4E3E-B368-C0845B45CE4F@gmail.com> Hello, is this credible? I’m interested, but I want to make sure that this is not a fake posting that you are sharing. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L wrote: > >  > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Georgetown Blindness and Brain Plasticity Research Ad.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 105661 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com From elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com Thu May 2 00:55:39 2024 From: elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 18:55:39 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Georgetown University Paid Research Opportunity Attached In-Reply-To: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> References: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7443F05C-A557-4E3E-B368-C0845B45CE4F@gmail.com> Hello, is this credible? I’m interested, but I want to make sure that this is not a fake posting that you are sharing. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L wrote: > >  > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Georgetown Blindness and Brain Plasticity Research Ad.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 105661 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com From elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com Thu May 2 00:55:39 2024 From: elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 18:55:39 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Georgetown University Paid Research Opportunity Attached In-Reply-To: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> References: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7443F05C-A557-4E3E-B368-C0845B45CE4F@gmail.com> Hello, is this credible? I’m interested, but I want to make sure that this is not a fake posting that you are sharing. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L wrote: > >  > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Georgetown Blindness and Brain Plasticity Research Ad.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 105661 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com From elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com Thu May 2 04:16:05 2024 From: elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 22:16:05 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Chat GPT Message-ID: <6083110B-7E81-4E5B-8037-18301BEC0C33@gmail.com> Hi all, Where is the best credible website to download ChatGPT? I might as well try it to apply for jobs, since like that seems like the only way to get employers to look at anything. Sent from my iPhone From tyler at tysdomain.com Thu May 2 04:30:00 2024 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (tyler Littlefield) Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 22:30:00 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Chat GPT In-Reply-To: <6083110B-7E81-4E5B-8037-18301BEC0C33@gmail.com> References: <6083110B-7E81-4E5B-8037-18301BEC0C33@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6215f40f-b3c0-49e1-92f1-622c2105fb39@tysdomain.com> Hi, I feel like using chat GPT is probably the last thing you want to do. It doesn't help you apply for jobs, and can often be incorrect. It's good at some things, but writing is pretty hit or miss. You don't download it. There's an app if you use IOS, or on the web it's htpts://chat.openai.com On 5/1/2024 10:16 PM, Elizabeth Sprecher via NABS-L wrote: > Hi all, > Where is the best credible website to download ChatGPT? > > I might as well try it to apply for jobs, since like that seems like the only way to get employers to look at anything. > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com From nmabuelhawa at gmail.com Thu May 2 05:44:42 2024 From: nmabuelhawa at gmail.com (Naim Abu-ElHawa) Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 05:44:42 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Georgetown University Paid Research Opportunity Attached In-Reply-To: <7443F05C-A557-4E3E-B368-C0845B45CE4F@gmail.com> References: <9BB70EB4-21F4-4D31-8A59-C92B54A7F4BD@gmail.com> <7443F05C-A557-4E3E-B368-C0845B45CE4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi. Yes, this is a credible study at Georgetown University in Washington D.C. To add credibility, I am a participant as well as a good friend of one of the student researchers. I hope this helps. Thank you for your inquiry. Sincerely, Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Elizabeth Sprecher Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 8:55:39 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Naim Abu-ElHawa Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Georgetown University Paid Research Opportunity Attached Hello, is this credible? I’m interested, but I want to make sure that this is not a fake posting that you are sharing. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Naim Abu-ElHawa via NABS-L wrote: > >  > From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Thu May 2 10:36:21 2024 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 10:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NABS-L] JAWS and exams on Canvas? References: <1711949131.6226612.1714646181085.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1711949131.6226612.1714646181085@mail.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, Is there anyone out there who has taken their exams on the system known as Canvas? (It's similar to Blackboard.) Anyway, I've encountered an issue when taking exams that have questions asking to list something or write a short essay of say a paragraph. Beginning last spring, JAWS was treating those text boxes like they didn't exist. The issue became a regular one this past semester and last fall. At first, I thought it was because I was running JAWS 2020. So, I upgraded to JAWS 2024 and am having the same problem. The funny thing is that it came out of nowhere last spring (on one exam) and then became a regular occurrence last fall and this spring. So, has anyone encountered this issue? If so, how did you solve it? Is there something in JAWS that needs to be checked? I find it odd that the problem occurred all of a sudden with an old version and still is with the new. I've contacted the folks at the school who handle all the tech stuff and they said that Canvas should work with the latest versions of JAWS (of course they don't know JAWS so they can't really confirm this.) Thanks. Mike From ty.lashley14 at icloud.com Thu May 2 14:43:02 2024 From: ty.lashley14 at icloud.com (Tyion Lashley) Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 10:43:02 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Chat GPT In-Reply-To: <6215f40f-b3c0-49e1-92f1-622c2105fb39@tysdomain.com> References: <6215f40f-b3c0-49e1-92f1-622c2105fb39@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: <40D531D7-2903-4304-9CE6-162CAFD70C0A@icloud.com> Hello, The best thing to do is use ChatGPT as a tool, not as a do it all for me tool. I used chatGPT myself when I don't know something and always fact check it. For example, if I'm coding and have never used a library or framework before, I will ask it for examples but it is up to me to understand the code. I can't just tell it to write me ann entire program and expected to not have bugs. I still need to read the code that it provides to see if it's actually what I'm looking for. AI is supposed to be a help me tool not a do everything for me tool. People get the wrong idea and that's why they find AI to be hit or miss. Of course it's hit or miss. AI Does not have the ability to think like a human. It only provides you information based on a data that the model was trained on. ChatGPT will not help you get a job. It can help you with creating a résumé though. Another thing that's unrelated to anything anyone else mentioned in this email. Please stop listening to people who say that I will take over the world. Those people have zero credibility and no absolutely nothing about what they're talking about and only their conclusions based on claims that have absolutely no bases or evidence to back themselves up. We do not understand how the human brain fully works. Therefore, weWe do not understand how the human brain fully works. Therefore, we cannot program a large language model, large action model, multi large language model, etc., to act like a human. It doesn't work. Sheesh! Tee > On May 2, 2024, at 12:31 AM, tyler Littlefield via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > > I feel like using chat GPT is probably the last thing you want to do. It doesn't help you apply for jobs, and can often be incorrect. It's good at some things, but writing is pretty hit or miss. > > You don't download it. There's an app if you use IOS, or on the web it's htpts://chat.openai.com > > > >> On 5/1/2024 10:16 PM, Elizabeth Sprecher via NABS-L wrote: >> Hi all, >> Where is the best credible website to download ChatGPT? >> >> I might as well try it to apply for jobs, since like that seems like the only way to get employers to look at anything. >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ty.lashley14%40icloud.com From sheth.neel.s at gmail.com Thu May 2 17:41:35 2024 From: sheth.neel.s at gmail.com (Neel Sheth) Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 13:41:35 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] JAWS and exams on Canvas? In-Reply-To: <1711949131.6226612.1714646181085@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1711949131.6226612.1714646181085@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98FF76D5-49C1-407B-BD55-5B666A2F8A6C@gmail.com> Sounds like you need to turn off your virtual PC cursor. When you get to the text box, press JAWS key + Z. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2024, at 6:37 AM, Mike Gilmore via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Is there anyone out there who has taken their exams on the system known as Canvas? (It's similar to Blackboard.) Anyway, I've encountered an issue when taking exams that have questions asking to list something or write a short essay of say a paragraph. Beginning last spring, JAWS was treating those text boxes like they didn't exist. The issue became a regular one this past semester and last fall. > At first, I thought it was because I was running JAWS 2020. So, I upgraded to JAWS 2024 and am having the same problem. The funny thing is that it came out of nowhere last spring (on one exam) and then became a regular occurrence last fall and this spring. > > So, has anyone encountered this issue? If so, how did you solve it? Is there something in JAWS that needs to be checked? I find it odd that the problem occurred all of a sudden with an old version and still is with the new. I've contacted the folks at the school who handle all the tech stuff and they said that Canvas should work with the latest versions of JAWS (of course they don't know JAWS so they can't really confirm this.) > > Thanks. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sheth.neel.s%40gmail.com From shawnabraham21 at gmail.com Fri May 3 12:00:02 2024 From: shawnabraham21 at gmail.com (Shawn) Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 08:00:02 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Rocky Mountain seminar is almost here, deadline extended Message-ID: <275EBFB5-9959-4822-A8A3-94813D6826E2@gmail.com> Attention all, The original deadline to register for the one and only rocky mountain seminar has been extended. There will now be 1 extra week for anyone interested to have the opportunity to reserve their spot. Slots are filling up quickly, so be sure to register before next Friday, May 10. May 17 is only moments away. We are beyond excited to spend an action packed weekend together and only a few short weeks. Click the link below to sign up before time runs out: https://nfb.org/civicrm/mailing/url?u=33520&qid=9692123 Book your room at the Denver Marriott South at Park Meadows for $120/night using our group code: National Federation of the Blind Student. Reserve by May 3rd to ensure your accommodation. For financial assistance inquiries, contact NABS Board Member Manahil Jafri at manahiljafri at gmail.com Best, Shawn From manahiljafri at gmail.com Fri May 3 13:59:52 2024 From: manahiljafri at gmail.com (Manahil Jafri) Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 07:59:52 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Rocky Mountain seminar is almost here, deadline extended In-Reply-To: <275EBFB5-9959-4822-A8A3-94813D6826E2@gmail.com> References: <275EBFB5-9959-4822-A8A3-94813D6826E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, Just as a correction, the deadline to reserve your room at the Denver Marriott South at Park Meadows has also been extended to May 10th!!! Hurry to snag a room for $120/night using our group code: National Federation of the Blind Student. Thanks so much, and looking forward to see all your registrations come through! Best Manahil > On May 3, 2024, at 6:01 AM, Shawn via NABS-L wrote: > > Attention all, > The original deadline to register for the one and only rocky mountain seminar has been extended. There will now be 1 extra week for anyone interested to have the opportunity to reserve their spot. > Slots are filling up quickly, so be sure to register before next Friday, May 10. > May 17 is only moments away. We are beyond excited to spend an action packed weekend together and only a few short weeks. Click the link below to sign up before time runs out: > https://nfb.org/civicrm/mailing/url?u=33520&qid=9692123 > > Book your room at the Denver Marriott South at Park Meadows for $120/night using our group code: National Federation of the Blind Student. Reserve by May 3rd to ensure your accommodation. > > For financial assistance inquiries, contact NABS Board Member Manahil Jafri at manahiljafri at gmail.com > > > Best, > Shawn > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/manahiljafri%40gmail.com From oriolefan38 at gmail.com Fri May 3 16:34:24 2024 From: oriolefan38 at gmail.com (Zachary Ledford) Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 10:34:24 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Looking for a roommate for the 2024 NFB National Convention?? Message-ID: Hello! I am pretty late to the game but I am hoping someone is looking for a roommate for the NFB National Convention this year in Orlando, Florida! If you might be looking for one or know of someone who is, please share my information with them below and I appreciate the support. Any questions, please let me know as well! Best wishes, Zachary Ledford B.S. Candidate, Health and Kinesiology | University of Utah President, Utah Association of Blind Students | National Federation of the Blind of Utah ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com From nabs.president at gmail.com Sun May 5 18:26:10 2024 From: nabs.president at gmail.com (nabs.president at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 14:26:10 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Town Hall Tonight at 8:00 EST Message-ID: <001a01da9f19$b4be7370$1e3b5a50$@gmail.com> Do you need a break from studying for finals? Maybe you already wrapped up the semester and you need some NABS to fill your time. Our May Town Hall will be taking place tonight at 8:00 PM EST in our usual zoom room. We will be discussing what's going on in our committees along with some of our upcoming seminars and fundraisers. Come learn about what we have been up to and find out ways that you can get more involved! Here is a link to a google form where you can submit any questions you may have; they can be about NABS itself or anything blind student related. The form is anonymous with the option of including your name and contact information. Form: https://forms.gle/67pAvT1cqTrBm95s8 NABS Zoom room Hope to see you all tonight! Lauren Lauren Altman President National Association of Blind Students Pronouns: she/her Email: nabs.president at gmail.com Phone: (973) 9307473 From icecreamlover76 at outlook.com Mon May 6 17:49:27 2024 From: icecreamlover76 at outlook.com (Terri Stimmel) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 12:49:27 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services Message-ID: Hello everyone, I could really use some thoughts, and advice, please. So as I think I have stated before, I live in Missouri. I live not all that far from Saint Louis. But in the next county. I am currently attending a local community college. The main campus is about a 30 minute drive from my house. There is another campus just a couple of streets over from me. But, it is just one building, and not all the classes are offered there. Well, I am currently in my second semester. Rehab services has been paying for my transportation costs. If I remember correctly, this started a little way into my first semester. Well, I have just recently been informed that they can no longer continue to pay for my transportation, for the way it is right now. I go two days a week. And, this is how it is supposed to be in the fall as well. I am being told that the amount they can pay has to be equal for what they would pay for room and board. Apparently, they are spending about 900 dollars a month on my transportation costs. They use a cab company within Saint Louis county. My question to my rehab counselor was, how could you all not know how much this was going to cost? Did the cab company not inform you of their prices? I haven't gotten an answer from her yet, on this. I let my advisor know what was going on. He told me that this could definitely have some not so good ramifications for me. Which of course, I definitely know. I also asked my rehab counselor, that if this is such a big issue now, what might happen once I attend a different college in a couple of years? I really do not know what to do here. I feel like this is going to hurt my chances of possibly moving forward with my life. I am already not your typical student. Tomorrow, I turn 48. So, my chances of finding a job will be much more difficult, once I finish with school. I know I am taking a big risk here. I love school, and what it has to offer. I don't want to give up on it, if I don't have to do so. There is a bus service that runs to the college. I would have to leave my house at around 7:30 in the morning, and I would get to the campus at about 8. I would be there an hour and a half earlier than I would need to be. Also, I do not know if the bus might pick me up at my house. Or, if I might have to meet it at a different location. I haven't looked into this, just yet. My rehab counselor is saying that they might be able to pay for most of my trips. Then sometimes I just might have to take the bus. I am just frustrated, and irritated with this whole situation! Any thoughts, or advice would be very much appreciated. Thank you, Terri From elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com Mon May 6 20:08:27 2024 From: elizabeth.sprecher103 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Sprecher) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 14:08:27 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97FD8A7B-F04B-4E5F-B26B-D5FDD0A5B3C4@gmail.com> Hi, I’m not sure if the suggestion would be helpful. But I would do some research into the cab company that you are currently using to get to school, and see how much it costs per ride, and see if they have any like discounted rates or something like that like that you could use for the cab companies Like since you have a disability. But then I would go back to your rehab, counselor, and justify why you would need it, and actually ask the rehab counselor where they got that information that they would actually be paying for your transportation, and how long your IPE plan is through school. Because they should be providing you transportation, as far as I know, far as long as the time you are in school until you graduate. That’s my understanding from my experience in rehab although I am not from Missouri. And usually what I do, is that every sort of communication every letter and every thing that rehab sends to me, I usually like to always download it and save it, in case anything happens. So, maybe you could ask them for documentation saying that they would provide the transportation when they were actually providing it, and then provide the documentation like a copy of the email or something of, their decision not to provide you transportation. And ask them what is so different, and justify why you still need it and do some research. Hope this helps Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2024, at 11:50 AM, Terri Stimmel via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > I could really use some thoughts, and advice, please. > > > So as I think I have stated before, I live in Missouri. I live not all that far from Saint Louis. But in the next county. I am currently attending a local community college. The main campus is about a 30 minute drive from my house. > > There is another campus just a couple of streets over from me. But, it is just one building, and not all the classes are offered there. > > > Well, I am currently in my second semester. Rehab services has been paying for my transportation costs. If I remember correctly, this started a little way into my first semester. > > > Well, I have just recently been informed that they can no longer continue to pay for my transportation, for the way it is right now. I go two days a week. And, this is how it is supposed to be in the fall as well. > > > I am being told that the amount they can pay has to be equal for what they would pay for room and board. Apparently, they are spending about 900 dollars a month on my transportation costs. They use a cab company within Saint Louis county. > > > My question to my rehab counselor was, how could you all not know how much this was going to cost? > > Did the cab company not inform you of their prices? > > I haven't gotten an answer from her yet, on this. > > > I let my advisor know what was going on. He told me that this could definitely have some not so good ramifications for me. Which of course, I definitely know. > > > I also asked my rehab counselor, that if this is such a big issue now, what might happen once I attend a different college in a couple of years? > > > I really do not know what to do here. I feel like this is going to hurt my chances of possibly moving forward with my life. I am already not your typical student. Tomorrow, I turn 48. So, my chances of finding a job will be much more difficult, once I finish with school. I know I am taking a big risk here. > > > I love school, and what it has to offer. I don't want to give up on it, if I don't have to do so. > > There is a bus service that runs to the college. I would have to leave my house at around 7:30 in the morning, and I would get to the campus at about 8. I would be there an hour and a half earlier than I would need to be. > > Also, I do not know if the bus might pick me up at my house. Or, if I might have to meet it at a different location. I haven't looked into this, just yet. > > My rehab counselor is saying that they might be able to pay for most of my trips. Then sometimes I just might have to take the bus. > > > I am just frustrated, and irritated with this whole situation! > > > Any thoughts, or advice would be very much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com From ninam0814 at gmail.com Mon May 6 21:25:51 2024 From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 21:25:51 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services In-Reply-To: <97FD8A7B-F04B-4E5F-B26B-D5FDD0A5B3C4@gmail.com> References: <97FD8A7B-F04B-4E5F-B26B-D5FDD0A5B3C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ask them about reimbursing a driver or rideshare. My rehab services did this for me. I ended up finding a driver because it was cheaper and more reliable. ________________________________ From: NABS-L on behalf of Elizabeth Sprecher via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 4:08:27 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Elizabeth Sprecher Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services Hi, I’m not sure if the suggestion would be helpful. But I would do some research into the cab company that you are currently using to get to school, and see how much it costs per ride, and see if they have any like discounted rates or something like that like that you could use for the cab companies Like since you have a disability. But then I would go back to your rehab, counselor, and justify why you would need it, and actually ask the rehab counselor where they got that information that they would actually be paying for your transportation, and how long your IPE plan is through school. Because they should be providing you transportation, as far as I know, far as long as the time you are in school until you graduate. That’s my understanding from my experience in rehab although I am not from Missouri. And usually what I do, is that every sort of communication every letter and every thing that rehab sends to me, I usually like to always download it and save it, in case anything happens. So, maybe you could ask them for documentation saying that they would provide the transportation when they were actually providing it, and then provide the documentation like a copy of the email or something of, their decision not to provide you transportation. And ask them what is so different, and justify why you still need it and do some research. Hope this helps Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2024, at 11:50 AM, Terri Stimmel via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > I could really use some thoughts, and advice, please. > > > So as I think I have stated before, I live in Missouri. I live not all that far from Saint Louis. But in the next county. I am currently attending a local community college. The main campus is about a 30 minute drive from my house. > > There is another campus just a couple of streets over from me. But, it is just one building, and not all the classes are offered there. > > > Well, I am currently in my second semester. Rehab services has been paying for my transportation costs. If I remember correctly, this started a little way into my first semester. > > > Well, I have just recently been informed that they can no longer continue to pay for my transportation, for the way it is right now. I go two days a week. And, this is how it is supposed to be in the fall as well. > > > I am being told that the amount they can pay has to be equal for what they would pay for room and board. Apparently, they are spending about 900 dollars a month on my transportation costs. They use a cab company within Saint Louis county. > > > My question to my rehab counselor was, how could you all not know how much this was going to cost? > > Did the cab company not inform you of their prices? > > I haven't gotten an answer from her yet, on this. > > > I let my advisor know what was going on. He told me that this could definitely have some not so good ramifications for me. Which of course, I definitely know. > > > I also asked my rehab counselor, that if this is such a big issue now, what might happen once I attend a different college in a couple of years? > > > I really do not know what to do here. I feel like this is going to hurt my chances of possibly moving forward with my life. I am already not your typical student. Tomorrow, I turn 48. So, my chances of finding a job will be much more difficult, once I finish with school. I know I am taking a big risk here. > > > I love school, and what it has to offer. I don't want to give up on it, if I don't have to do so. > > There is a bus service that runs to the college. I would have to leave my house at around 7:30 in the morning, and I would get to the campus at about 8. I would be there an hour and a half earlier than I would need to be. > > Also, I do not know if the bus might pick me up at my house. Or, if I might have to meet it at a different location. I haven't looked into this, just yet. > > My rehab counselor is saying that they might be able to pay for most of my trips. Then sometimes I just might have to take the bus. > > > I am just frustrated, and irritated with this whole situation! > > > Any thoughts, or advice would be very much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/elizabeth.sprecher103%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ninam0814%40gmail.com From redwing731 at gmail.com Mon May 6 22:14:02 2024 From: redwing731 at gmail.com (Kendra Schaber) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 22:14:02 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! I would explore that bus route. If possible, get an o and m expert to help you figure out if you are able to use the bus route. I would also explore other alternatives and find out if you can use any of them and which ones. I hope this helps! Kendra Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: NABS-L on behalf of Terri Stimmel via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 10:49:27 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Terri Stimmel Subject: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services Hello everyone, I could really use some thoughts, and advice, please. So as I think I have stated before, I live in Missouri. I live not all that far from Saint Louis. But in the next county. I am currently attending a local community college. The main campus is about a 30 minute drive from my house. There is another campus just a couple of streets over from me. But, it is just one building, and not all the classes are offered there. Well, I am currently in my second semester. Rehab services has been paying for my transportation costs. If I remember correctly, this started a little way into my first semester. Well, I have just recently been informed that they can no longer continue to pay for my transportation, for the way it is right now. I go two days a week. And, this is how it is supposed to be in the fall as well. I am being told that the amount they can pay has to be equal for what they would pay for room and board. Apparently, they are spending about 900 dollars a month on my transportation costs. They use a cab company within Saint Louis county. My question to my rehab counselor was, how could you all not know how much this was going to cost? Did the cab company not inform you of their prices? I haven't gotten an answer from her yet, on this. I let my advisor know what was going on. He told me that this could definitely have some not so good ramifications for me. Which of course, I definitely know. I also asked my rehab counselor, that if this is such a big issue now, what might happen once I attend a different college in a couple of years? I really do not know what to do here. I feel like this is going to hurt my chances of possibly moving forward with my life. I am already not your typical student. Tomorrow, I turn 48. So, my chances of finding a job will be much more difficult, once I finish with school. I know I am taking a big risk here. I love school, and what it has to offer. I don't want to give up on it, if I don't have to do so. There is a bus service that runs to the college. I would have to leave my house at around 7:30 in the morning, and I would get to the campus at about 8. I would be there an hour and a half earlier than I would need to be. Also, I do not know if the bus might pick me up at my house. Or, if I might have to meet it at a different location. I haven't looked into this, just yet. My rehab counselor is saying that they might be able to pay for most of my trips. Then sometimes I just might have to take the bus. I am just frustrated, and irritated with this whole situation! Any thoughts, or advice would be very much appreciated. Thank you, Terri _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com From gene.sh.kim at gmail.com Tue May 7 02:47:17 2024 From: gene.sh.kim at gmail.com (Gene Kim) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 19:47:17 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] VR Counselor in Pittsburgh / Pennsylvania Message-ID: <60D8DC7D-95CB-4CD2-90B3-07858D30F90A@gmail.com> Hi everyone, Does anyone have a VR counselor from the Pittsburgh area or even Pennsylvania overall? It'd be incredibly valuable hearing your experiences. Cheers, Gene From tbrown.brl at gmail.com Tue May 7 04:18:16 2024 From: tbrown.brl at gmail.com (Tom Brown) Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 00:18:16 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] VR Counselor in Pittsburgh / Pennsylvania In-Reply-To: <60D8DC7D-95CB-4CD2-90B3-07858D30F90A@gmail.com> References: <60D8DC7D-95CB-4CD2-90B3-07858D30F90A@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am from Pittsburgh and have a VR counselor. Feel free to email me separately. tbrown.brl at gmail.com Tom Brown -Sent from my mobile device Please excuse any spelling, grammatical, and/or punctuational errors. Do not hesitate to request clarification if necessary. > On May 6, 2024, at 10:48 PM, Gene Kim via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Does anyone have a VR counselor from the Pittsburgh area or even Pennsylvania overall? It'd be incredibly valuable hearing your experiences. > > Cheers, > Gene > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tbrown.brl%40gmail.com From shawnabraham21 at gmail.com Tue May 7 15:00:01 2024 From: shawnabraham21 at gmail.com (Shawn) Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 11:00:01 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Three days left for Rocky Mountain Message-ID: Three days, students. By this Friday, registration for the very first Rocky Mountain seminar closes forever.. We are gearing up for the adventure of a lifetime. Join us for a weekend of fresh air at the foot of the lovely Rockies,, near Denver Colorado. Beginning May 17th, we aim to forge exhilarating friendships,, climb higher together, and find fun around every corner. Book your room at the Denver Marriott South at Park Meadows for $120/night using our group code, ‘National Federation of the Blind Student, ending soon on May 10th. . Colorado is calling. https://nfb.org/civicrm/mailing/url?u=33520&qid=9692123 For financial assistance inquiries, contact NABS Board Member Manahil Jafri at manahiljafri at gmail.com Best, Shawn From ctate2076 at att.net Wed May 8 15:39:17 2024 From: ctate2076 at att.net (Camille Tate) Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 11:39:17 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DAB8FB3-48DD-424D-9097-CD555C2DEC24@att.net> I would definitely look into the bus service. If you can use a combination of paratransit and fix route to go between your county and the one where the main campus of the college is located. Getting good orientation and mobility training to navigate those routes is a benefit that will extend beyond your college life. I also am an older student, age 48, so I understand the concerns about the job market post graduation. Your rehab agency may be able to. provide bus passes, which would be a lower cost for the rehab agency, so you can use the paratransit service. Additionally, you may be able to find things to do since she would arrive at your campus earlier than you need to for classes. I do not know what transit services are available in your state and county, but would love to speak with you off-line about some of the options that should be available to you. Please feel free to contact me off mine if you'd like to chat. Sincerely, Camille Tate President, Melbourne Space Coast Chapter , National Federation of the Blind, FL First Vice President, National Federation of the Blind, FL Email: ctate2076 at att.net Phone: 321 372 4899 Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2024, at 6:15 PM, Kendra Schaber via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi! > I would explore that bus route. If possible, get an o and m expert to help you figure out if you are able to use the bus route. I would also explore other alternatives and find out if you can use any of them and which ones. I hope this helps! > Kendra > > > Get Outlook for iOS > ________________________________ > From: NABS-L on behalf of Terri Stimmel via NABS-L > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 10:49:27 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Terri Stimmel > Subject: [NABS-L] Situation with rehab services > > Hello everyone, > > > I could really use some thoughts, and advice, please. > > > So as I think I have stated before, I live in Missouri. I live not all > that far from Saint Louis. But in the next county. I am currently > attending a local community college. The main campus is about a 30 > minute drive from my house. > > There is another campus just a couple of streets over from me. But, it > is just one building, and not all the classes are offered there. > > > Well, I am currently in my second semester. Rehab services has been > paying for my transportation costs. If I remember correctly, this > started a little way into my first semester. > > > Well, I have just recently been informed that they can no longer > continue to pay for my transportation, for the way it is right now. I go > two days a week. And, this is how it is supposed to be in the fall as well. > > > I am being told that the amount they can pay has to be equal for what > they would pay for room and board. Apparently, they are spending about > 900 dollars a month on my transportation costs. They use a cab company > within Saint Louis county. > > > My question to my rehab counselor was, how could you all not know how > much this was going to cost? > > Did the cab company not inform you of their prices? > > I haven't gotten an answer from her yet, on this. > > > I let my advisor know what was going on. He told me that this could > definitely have some not so good ramifications for me. Which of course, > I definitely know. > > > I also asked my rehab counselor, that if this is such a big issue now, > what might happen once I attend a different college in a couple of years? > > > I really do not know what to do here. I feel like this is going to hurt > my chances of possibly moving forward with my life. I am already not > your typical student. Tomorrow, I turn 48. So, my chances of finding a > job will be much more difficult, once I finish with school. I know I am > taking a big risk here. > > > I love school, and what it has to offer. I don't want to give up on it, > if I don't have to do so. > > There is a bus service that runs to the college. I would have to leave > my house at around 7:30 in the morning, and I would get to the campus at > about 8. I would be there an hour and a half earlier than I would need > to be. > > Also, I do not know if the bus might pick me up at my house. Or, if I > might have to meet it at a different location. I haven't looked into > this, just yet. > > My rehab counselor is saying that they might be able to pay for most of > my trips. Then sometimes I just might have to take the bus. > > > I am just frustrated, and irritated with this whole situation! > > > Any thoughts, or advice would be very much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/redwing731%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ctate2076%40att.net From shawnabraham21 at gmail.com Fri May 10 02:19:42 2024 From: shawnabraham21 at gmail.com (Shawn) Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 22:19:42 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] The inaugural Rocky mountain seminar disappears tomorrow Message-ID: On Friday at 5 PM Eastern, registration closes forever. Only hours remain for Rocky Mountain Seminar. Life altering, mind bending, and groundbreaking. Earth shattering, revolutionary, and unlike anything you've ever seen before. That is how some have described the event, the journey, that shall debut in one week’s time. It is an experience that promises to build you an unbreakable community of blind peers, and gift you with a gold mine of professional resources. You will be challenged and empowered at every turn, and discover who you truly are. Brace yourself, ladies and gentlemen, for and exhilarating weekend at the world renowned Colorado Center for the blind. Premiering on the weekend of May 17, the National Association of Blind Students presents, the inaugural Rocky Mountain seminar. But your chance to make history has almost disappeared. After May 10, registration closes forever. Book your room at the Denver Marriott South at Park Meadows for $120/night using our group code, ‘National Federation of the Blind Student, ending tomorrow. History is waiting. Colorado is calling. https://nfb.org/civicrm/mailing/url?u=33520&qid=9692123 For financial assistance inquiries, contact NABS Board Member Manahil Jafri at manahiljafri at gmail.com From shawnabraham21 at gmail.com Fri May 10 21:40:59 2024 From: shawnabraham21 at gmail.com (Shawn) Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 17:40:59 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?b?4o+wNCBob3VycyBhbmQgY291bnRpbmchISEgIPCflZQ=?= Message-ID: On Friday at 5 PM Eastern, registration closes forever. Only hours remain for Rocky Mountain Seminar. Life altering, mind bending, and groundbreaking. Earth shattering, revolutionary, and unlike anything you've ever seen before. That is how some have described the event, the journey, that shall debut in one week’s time. It is an experience that promises to build you an unbreakable community of blind peers, and gift you with a gold mine of professional resources. You will be challenged and empowered at every turn, and discover who you truly are. Brace yourself, ladies and gentlemen, for and exhilarating weekend at the world renowned Colorado Center for the blind. Premiering on the weekend of May 17, the National Association of Blind Students presents, the inaugural Rocky Mountain seminar. But your chance to make history has almost disappeared. After May 10, registration closes forever. Book your room at the Denver Marriott South at Park Meadows for $120/night using our group code, ‘National Federation of the Blind Student, ending tomorrow. History is waiting. Colorado is calling. https://nfb.org/civicrm/mailing/url?u=33520&qid=9692123 For financial assistance inquiries, contact NABS Board Member Manahil Jafri at manahiljafri at gmail.com From oriolefan38 at gmail.com Mon May 13 17:00:00 2024 From: oriolefan38 at gmail.com (Zachary Ledford) Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 11:00:00 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Join NABS Wellness Workshop June 2! Message-ID: Hey there! We are inching closer to summer and who’s excited!? What better way to celebrate than to join the National Association of Blind Students as we will be having a Wellness Workshop to preface our walk-a-thon! Featuring wellness professionals and a time to relax, join us Sunday June 2, 2024 from 8 to 9:30 PM Eastern for this exciting event as we take time to find our inner peace and recognize our health. You can find more information such as a zoom link below! Our panelists will include multiple individuals within the following fields; health coach, nurse, and a yoga/meditation instructor. In conjunction, this will be leading up our annual walk-a-thon and you won’t want to miss that! More information will come regarding these events as they get closer. Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Please fill out this form to register and share any questions you might have for our wellness professionals: https://forms.gle/8rwt9ySAU1UbLQEa6 If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Bella Teta at B.Teta2005 at gmail.com or Zachary Ledford at ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com Best wishes, Zachary Ledford B.S. Candidate, Health and Kinesiology | University of Utah President, Utah Association of Blind Students | National Federation of the Blind of Utah ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com From stanley7709 at gmail.com Tue May 14 10:05:57 2024 From: stanley7709 at gmail.com (Steve Cook) Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 06:05:57 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Join NABS Wellness Workshop June 2! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019501daa5e6$511b5da0$f35218e0$@gmail.com> Shared here in SC! Steve Cook All are welcome to join! We now have An Email list created for the discussion of audio description on all platforms for us to enjoy! Feel free to announce upcoming events that pertain to audio description content for everyone to attend or in certain areas. To subscribe, send a message to the following Email address with subscribe in the subject line. AudioDescriptionDiscussion+subscribe at googlegroups.com Once subscribed, to post to the list send a message to AudioDescriptionDiscussion at googlegroups.com -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Zachary Ledford via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 1:00 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Zachary Ledford Subject: [NABS-L] Join NABS Wellness Workshop June 2! Hey there! We are inching closer to summer and who’s excited!? What better way to celebrate than to join the National Association of Blind Students as we will be having a Wellness Workshop to preface our walk-a-thon! Featuring wellness professionals and a time to relax, join us Sunday June 2, 2024 from 8 to 9:30 PM Eastern for this exciting event as we take time to find our inner peace and recognize our health. You can find more information such as a zoom link below! Our panelists will include multiple individuals within the following fields; health coach, nurse, and a yoga/meditation instructor. In conjunction, this will be leading up our annual walk-a-thon and you won’t want to miss that! More information will come regarding these events as they get closer. Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Please fill out this form to register and share any questions you might have for our wellness professionals: https://forms.gle/8rwt9ySAU1UbLQEa6 If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Bella Teta at B.Teta2005 at gmail.com or Zachary Ledford at ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com Best wishes, Zachary Ledford B.S. Candidate, Health and Kinesiology | University of Utah President, Utah Association of Blind Students | National Federation of the Blind of Utah ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/stanley7709%40gmail.com From stanley7709 at gmail.com Tue May 14 10:07:24 2024 From: stanley7709 at gmail.com (Steve Cook) Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 06:07:24 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Scholarship! Message-ID: <01ab01daa5e6$84faeff0$8ef0cfd0$@gmail.com> Hi All, Appreciate you sharing with others! We are having a virtual fundraiser selling Double Good ultra-premium popcorn for 4 days from Monday, May 13 - Friday, May 17. Get all the details and support here: https://popup.doublegood.com/s/9d0pf65u The Computer Science and Technology Division is holding another popcorn fundraiser. If you missed your opportunity to make a purchase from Double Good Popcorn in April, don't worry. Here is another chance! All proceeds will go directly to a scholarship for our National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina State Convention in August! Double Good Popcorn has a variety of flavors for you to enjoy! It makes a great road trip snack that you could take to Orlando for our National Convention! If you are not going to Orlando, you can still make a purchase to show your support to enjoy anytime! If you do not want popcorn, but would still like to donate to the scholarship, please use the below PayPal Email address for the Computer Science and Technology Division and make a note "Scholarship Donation." science.tech.div10 at gmail.com As always, thank you for all you do, so together, we can continue to build the National Federation of the Blind Steve Cook NFB of SC CSTD President From famjad917 at gmail.com Tue May 14 18:45:11 2024 From: famjad917 at gmail.com (Fahad Amjad) Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 18:45:11 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] TikTok feature Message-ID: Of course, here's your message cleaned up: --- Hello, My name is Fahad. I hope you are doing well. I was wondering if any of you have used TikTok's Creator Insights feature with voiceover? I would love to know if it's super accessible and how to navigate around the Creator Insights tool with voiceover. I'm having a bit of trouble with it. I can see the number of views, but it doesn't tell me the niche or if these views are from my followers or trending. Also, I can't find the option to search for what's trending in a particular niche, like rap, for example. Would love some help, advice, or guidance. Best, Fahad Get Outlook for iOS From famjad917 at gmail.com Tue May 14 18:46:14 2024 From: famjad917 at gmail.com (Fahad Amjad) Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 18:46:14 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] TikTok feature Message-ID: Hello, My name is Fahad. I hope you are doing well. I was wondering if any of you have used TikTok's Creator Insights feature with voiceover? I would love to know if it's super accessible and how to navigate around the Creator Insights tool with voiceover. I'm having a bit of trouble with it. I can see the number of views, but it doesn't tell me the niche or if these views are from my followers or trending. Also, I can't find the option to search for what's trending in a particular niche, like rap, for example. Would love some help, advice, or guidance. Best, Fahad Get Outlook for iOS From caseyreyes25 at gmail.com Wed May 15 18:41:55 2024 From: caseyreyes25 at gmail.com (Casey Reyes) Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 14:41:55 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Looking for a female roommate for national convention Message-ID: Hi all! Is anyone looking for a female roommate? I haven't booked a room yet and would like to see if someone is looking for a roommate first. Please message me at 442-264-4339 if you are looking for a roommate or know anyone who is looking for one. Best, Casey Reyes From students at nfbflorida.org Fri May 17 17:00:00 2024 From: students at nfbflorida.org (FABS Secretary) Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 13:00:00 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Join us this Sunday! Message-ID: Greetings all, I hope all is well. Please join us on Sunday, May 19th at 6pm , as we will conduct a student division meeting. We hope to see you then! Here is the zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/96868427038 Elijah Grant Secretary - Florida Association of Blind Students Treasurer - Greater Broward Chapter, National Federation of the Blind of Florida Associate of Arts in Information Technology Candidate - Broward College Click here to email the Florida Association of Blind Students. Social Media Links Check us out on Facebook Follow us on TikTok Follow us on Instagram "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can have the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back." -National Federation of the Blind One-Minute Message From students at nfbflorida.org Sun May 19 18:36:31 2024 From: students at nfbflorida.org (FABS Secretary) Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 14:36:31 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Join us this Sunday! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here's your friendly for tonight's meeting! See y'all tonight! Elijah Grant Secretary - Florida Association of Blind Students Treasurer - Greater Broward Chapter, National Federation of the Blind of Florida Associate of Arts in Information Technology Candidate - Broward College Click here to email the Florida Association of Blind Students. Social Media Links Check us out on Facebook Follow us on TikTok Follow us on Instagram "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can have the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back." -National Federation of the Blind One-Minute Message On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 1:00 PM FABS Secretary wrote: > Greetings all, > > I hope all is well. Please join us on Sunday, May 19th at 6pm , as we will > conduct a student division meeting. We hope to see you then! > Here is the zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/96868427038 > > Elijah Grant > Secretary - Florida Association of Blind Students > Treasurer - Greater Broward Chapter, National Federation of the Blind of > Florida > Associate of Arts in Information Technology Candidate - Broward College > Click here to email the Florida Association of Blind Students. > > Social Media Links > Check us out on Facebook > > Follow us on TikTok > Follow us on Instagram > "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations > of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind > people and our dreams. You can have the life you want; blindness is not > what holds > you back." > -National Federation of the Blind One-Minute Message > > From jenniferhan17 at gmail.com Tue May 21 02:03:48 2024 From: jenniferhan17 at gmail.com (Jenn Han) Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 19:03:48 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Healthcare Students and Professionals Message-ID: Hey y’all! Please see the message below, also sent to the NFB science division. Thank you! My name is Jenn Han and I’m a graduated nursing student as of this week! I am seeking any and all students and professionals in the healthcare field, in hopes of creating a healthcare division or group within the NFB. This is NOT limited to clinicians only, so please know I invite anyone involved in healthcare, whether in the clinical or academic setting, to please reach out to me. The intent of this effort would be to: 1. Build a solid community within the industry to network, discuss, and grow together 2. Take action in big issues such as accessibility in medical devices and electronic medical records, discrimination in healthcare programs/licensing exams, accommodations in clinical and academic settings, etc. 3. Increase an equitable and inclusive culture in healthcare programs and careers 4. Increase our presence in the healthcare industry, motivate the next generation of blind students to pursue a field in healthcare, and host future efforts for education and advocacy within the field I believe we are overdue for something like this, but it starts by gathering members in the community. Please share with anyone you know as well and contact me if interested! Contact me with your name and practicing area or area of current study. Email: jenniferhan17 at gmail.com Phone / text: 8189239616 Wishing you all the best. Jenn Han She/her/hers California State University Northridge | Class of 2024 | Bachelors of Science in Nursing University of California, Los Angeles | Class of 2021 | B.S. Molecular, Cell, Developmental Biology From gene.sh.kim at gmail.com Tue May 21 08:54:36 2024 From: gene.sh.kim at gmail.com (Gene Kim) Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 01:54:36 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Braille education survey for class project Message-ID: Hi all, Less than two months until national convention! I'm working on a project for a class I'm taking with some students from the Stanford design, engineering, and business schools. It would be incredibly helpful if you would take the time to fill out this survey I created to learn more about braille literacy and education (all backgrounds welcome). This is not an official project for a research lab (i.e. findings won't be used for a research paper) and the results are completely anonymous; I'll be sharing these findings with my teammates and the class. You can find the survey here and at the blow URL: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc9z7TX_sfvfwey5CMg7kBDVlpz9mHvi1SWl1PwXOJ46eLOuw/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1&flr=0 Thanks so much for your support! Cheers, Gene From isaacmcburney35 at gmail.com Tue May 21 16:52:43 2024 From: isaacmcburney35 at gmail.com (Isaac McBurney) Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 11:52:43 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Meet the New Missouri Student Board Message-ID: <86596556-F54C-4E23-8EA7-E4DCDA456E9D@gmail.com> Hey, students! I hope you all had a great end to your semesters. Congrats to all the graduates—hope to see you stick around for a little while longer. This coming Thursday, May 23, at 7 p.m. central (8 p.m. eastern, 6 p.m. mountain, and 5 p.m. pacific), come join the Missouri Association of Blind Students for our first meeting after our state convention. At this meeting, we will have an opportunity to meet our new board, talk about the plans for this year, and have a time for you to ask us questions. Come and join us! For the state affiliate’s privacy, we cannot send the zoom link publicly, but feel free to reach out, and I can pass it along. Also, sorry for the short notice about the meeting. Since this is a new board, we are still trying tonight figure things out. Thank you, Missouri Association of Blind Students Board From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Tue May 21 16:56:27 2024 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 12:56:27 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Explore_Job_Opportunities_=E2=80=93_At?= =?utf-8?q?tend_the_Career_Fair?= References: Message-ID: <1F662F7B-42D1-45A8-933E-D13DAE0477B0@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ninam0814 at gmail.com Wed May 22 10:02:30 2024 From: ninam0814 at gmail.com (Nina Marranca) Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 10:02:30 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Healthcare Students and Professionals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good morning! I am working on my Doctorate in clinical psychology. I know many think this is more under the human services realm. But I currently intern in a large trauma hospital and am interested in providing care in medical settings. As such, a lot of this applies to me. :) ________________________________ From: NABS-L on behalf of Jenn Han via NABS-L Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 10:03:48 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Jenn Han Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Healthcare Students and Professionals Hey y’all! Please see the message below, also sent to the NFB science division. Thank you! My name is Jenn Han and I’m a graduated nursing student as of this week! I am seeking any and all students and professionals in the healthcare field, in hopes of creating a healthcare division or group within the NFB. This is NOT limited to clinicians only, so please know I invite anyone involved in healthcare, whether in the clinical or academic setting, to please reach out to me. The intent of this effort would be to: 1. Build a solid community within the industry to network, discuss, and grow together 2. Take action in big issues such as accessibility in medical devices and electronic medical records, discrimination in healthcare programs/licensing exams, accommodations in clinical and academic settings, etc. 3. Increase an equitable and inclusive culture in healthcare programs and careers 4. Increase our presence in the healthcare industry, motivate the next generation of blind students to pursue a field in healthcare, and host future efforts for education and advocacy within the field I believe we are overdue for something like this, but it starts by gathering members in the community. Please share with anyone you know as well and contact me if interested! Contact me with your name and practicing area or area of current study. Email: jenniferhan17 at gmail.com Phone / text: 8189239616 Wishing you all the best. Jenn Han She/her/hers California State University Northridge | Class of 2024 | Bachelors of Science in Nursing University of California, Los Angeles | Class of 2021 | B.S. Molecular, Cell, Developmental Biology _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ninam0814%40gmail.com From jenniferhan17 at gmail.com Wed May 22 17:56:50 2024 From: jenniferhan17 at gmail.com (Jenn Han) Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 10:56:50 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Healthcare Students and Professionals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It absolutely does! I’ve added you to the list! We’ll be in touch very soon. Jenn Han She/her/hers California State University Northridge | Class of 2024 | Bachelors of Science in Nursing University of California, Los Angeles | Class of 2021 | B.S. Molecular, Cell, Developmental Biology On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 3:03 AM Nina Marranca via NABS-L wrote: > Good morning! > I am working on my Doctorate in clinical psychology. I know many think > this is more under the human services realm. But I currently intern in a > large trauma hospital and am interested in providing care in medical > settings. As such, a lot of this applies to me. :) > ________________________________ > From: NABS-L on behalf of Jenn Han via NABS-L > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 10:03:48 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Cc: Jenn Han > Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Healthcare Students and Professionals > > Hey y’all! Please see the message below, also sent to the NFB science > division. Thank you! > > My name is Jenn Han and I’m a graduated nursing student as of this week! I > am seeking any and all students and professionals in the healthcare field, > in hopes of creating a healthcare division or group within the NFB. This is > NOT limited to clinicians only, so please know I invite anyone involved in > healthcare, whether in the clinical or academic setting, to please reach > out to me. > > > The intent of this effort would be to: > > 1. Build a solid community within the industry to network, discuss, and > grow together > 2. Take action in big issues such as accessibility in medical devices and > electronic medical records, discrimination in healthcare programs/licensing > exams, accommodations in clinical and academic settings, etc. > 3. Increase an equitable and inclusive culture in healthcare programs and > careers > 4. Increase our presence in the healthcare industry, motivate the next > generation of blind students to pursue a field in healthcare, and host > future efforts for education and advocacy within the field > > I believe we are overdue for something like this, but it starts by > gathering members in the community. Please share with anyone you know as > well and contact me if interested! > > Contact me with your name and practicing area or area of current study. > Email: jenniferhan17 at gmail.com > Phone / text: 8189239616 > > > Wishing you all the best. > > > Jenn Han > She/her/hers > California State University Northridge | Class of 2024 | Bachelors of > Science in Nursing > University of California, Los Angeles | > Class of 2021 | B.S. Molecular, Cell, Developmental Biology > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ninam0814%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jenniferhan17%40gmail.com > From oriolefan38 at gmail.com Thu May 23 02:26:18 2024 From: oriolefan38 at gmail.com (Zachary Ledford) Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 20:26:18 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Join NABS Wellness Workshop on June 2! Message-ID: Good Evening NABS Family from Your Fundraising Committee, We hope you are all having a wonderful Wednesday! One of our goals is to help people feel healthier and happier. If you would like to learn about nutrition, physical health, yoga, and meditation, join us for a free and virtual workshop all about health on Sunday, June 2, from 8:00 to 9:30 p.m. Eastern. The workshop will feature professional experts and will include a nutritionist, nurse, and meditation/yoga instructor. And here's the best part. All of our panelists will make presentations targeted towards blind audiences. You will also have time to ask the panelists questions during the workshop. This virtual event will serve as a prelude to our walk a thon which will take place at our National Convention. If you would like to participate, come and join us. Come join us, and learn about how you can be healthier and happier. This event will certainly help you to live the life you want! Have an amazing week, and don't forget to register for this amazing and accessible workshop. Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Please fill out this form to register and share any questions you might have for our wellness professionals: https://forms.gle/yx1UPH3FGpUqfoTr8 If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Zachary Ledford at ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com. Best wishes, Your Fundraising Committee From lhnews at lighthouse-sf.org Thu May 23 20:58:15 2024 From: lhnews at lighthouse-sf.org (LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired) Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 20:58:15 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Register for Enchanted Hills Summer Camp Today! Message-ID: Summer 2024 is swiftly approaching, and there’s no better way to spend the summer than exploring, playing, and experiencing Enchanted Hills Camp for the Blind in Napa, CA. Our fully inclusive and accessible summer camp is nestled between the hundreds-year-old Napa Valley redwoods on our 311-acre oasis! Blind and visually impaired campers of all ages spend their days at EHC swimming, hiking, creating, crafting, boating, playing adaptive sports like beeper baseball and basketball or archery, all while building upon their blindness skills, independence, and confidence in a nurturing blind-positive environment with other BVI campers, staff, and mentors. Some of our Summer 2024 sessions have filled up, but there’s still space in our Youth, Teen, and Music Camps! Please see registration and camp session details below. If you have any questions or require more information, please email ehc at lighthouse-sf.org. Camp Sessions Youth Session: July 15 – 20 Youth campers (1st – 8th grade) will participate in a variety of programs, including campfires, swimming, horseback riding, drama, arts and crafts, and adaptive sports. Campers are encouraged to explore new challenges independently with their new friends. Campers will gain a greater understanding and acceptance of their vision loss, leading to increased self -confidence. RSVP for Youth Session Teen Session: July 15 – July 27 Teen campers (9th -12th grade) will participate in a variety of programs, including campfires, swimming, drama, arts and crafts, and adaptive sports. Campers are encouraged to explore new challenges independently with their new friends. Campers will gain a greater understanding and acceptance of their vision loss, leading to increased self-confidence. Additionally, they will participate in activities geared toward building leadership abilities and setting goals for the future. Examples of these leadership activities include: public speaking, organizational skills, assisting campers and staff with participating in activities, program set up, and facilitating discussions. RSVP for Teen Session Music Camp: August 5 – August 11 The Music session is for campers ages 14 and older that are musicians who are blind or have low vision. Participants should already know how to play or sing and have, at minimum, intermediate musical skills (basic chords, scales, tuning, basic instrument maintenance and general musical knowledge) in their instrument(s). Instruments can include, but are not limited to guitar, ukulele, percussion, voice, and other acoustic instruments. This session will be headed by Enchanted Hills Camp Enrichment Area Leader Masceo Williams. Space is limited and a letter of recommendation or phone interview will be required for admission. RSVP for Music Camp Registration Details: To register online, please click on the link underneath the camp session you wish to attend. Once you have clicked the link and filled out the RSVP form, a full online application will be sent out to you via email. Once you have submitted the application, it will be reviewed and information will be sent on how to complete payment. If you are having any issues completing the application online, please email ehc at lighthouse-sf.org. If you are not able to complete an online application, please email ehc at lighthouse-sf.org for a paper application. We strongly encourage you to apply via our online application. Any payment sent to the lighthouse by mail must have the name of the camper. We hope to see you this summer! [LightHouse for the Blind - Logo] 1155 Market Street, 10th Floor SF 94103 Visit us online: Website | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram Please visit our website to get to know us better! LightHouse-SF.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This virtual event will serve as a prelude to our walk a thon which will take place at our National Convention. If you would like to participate, Come join us, and learn about how you can be healthier and happier. This event will certainly help you to live the life you want! Have an amazing week, and don't forget to register for this amazing and accessible workshop. Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Please fill out this form to register and share any questions you might have for our wellness professionals: https://forms.gle/yx1UPH3FGpUqfoTr8 If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Zachary Ledford at ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com. Best wishes, Your Fundraising Committee From oriolefan38 at gmail.com Mon May 27 17:00:00 2024 From: oriolefan38 at gmail.com (Zachary Ledford) Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 11:00:00 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] NABS Wellness Workshop This Sunday!! Message-ID: NABS Family! One of our goals is to help people feel healthier and happier. If you would like to learn about nutrition, physical health, yoga, and meditation, join us for a free and virtual workshop all about health on Sunday, June 2, from 8:00 to 9:30 p.m. Eastern. The workshop will feature professional experts and will include a nutritionist, nurse, and meditation/yoga instructor. And here's the best part. All of our panelists will make presentations targeted towards blind audiences. You will also have time to ask the panelists questions during the workshop. This virtual event will serve as a prelude to our walk a thon which will take place at our National Convention. If you would like to participate, come join us, and learn about how you can be healthier and happier. This event will certainly help you to live the life you want! Have an amazing week, and don't forget to register for this amazing and accessible workshop. Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Please fill out this form to register and share any questions you might have for our wellness professionals: https://forms.gle/yx1UPH3FGpUqfoTr8 If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Zachary Ledford at ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com. All the best, Your Fundraising Committee From love.makenzie07 at gmail.com Wed May 29 16:02:13 2024 From: love.makenzie07 at gmail.com (Makenzie Love) Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 12:02:13 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] College Accommodation Questions Message-ID: Hello, My name is MaKenzie Love, and I am going to be a senior in high school and I will be applying to colleges in the fall. I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share their experiences with accommodations so far as a college student? What accommodations have worked the best and what negative experiences have you had? I would love to hear about your experiences. Please feel free to reach me directly at love.makenzie07 at gmail.com. Thank you, MaKenzie Love From b.teta2005 at gmail.com Thu May 30 02:58:03 2024 From: b.teta2005 at gmail.com (Bella Teta) Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 22:58:03 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Only a couple of days left until the NABS wellness workshop on Sunday, June 2, 8PM EST Message-ID: Greetings, One of our goals is to help people feel healthier and happier. If you would like to learn about nutrition, physical health, yoga, and meditation, join us for a free and virtual workshop all about health on Sunday, June 2, from 8:00 to 9:30 p.m. Eastern. The workshop will feature professional experts and will include a nutritionist, nurse, and meditation/yoga instructor. And here's the best part. All of our panelists will make presentations targeted towards blind audiences. You will also have time to ask the panelists questions during the workshop. This virtual event will serve as a prelude to our walk a thon which will take place at our National Convention. If you would like to participate, come join us, and learn about how you can be healthier and happier. This event will certainly help you to live the life you want! Have an amazing week, and don't forget to register for this amazing and accessible workshop. Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/4678833687 Please fill out this form to register and share any questions you might have for our wellness professionals: https://forms.gle/yx1UPH3FGpUqfoTr8 If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Zachary Ledford at ledford.zachary38 at gmail.com. All the best, Your Fundraising Committee _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/b.teta2005%40gmail.com From sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com Thu May 30 11:25:43 2024 From: sami.j.osborne97 at gmail.com (Sami Osborne) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 07:25:43 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] College Accommodation Questions Message-ID: <66586239.050a0220.69bf1.4e31@mx.google.com> Hi Makenzie, I think you're asking a bit broad of a question there, as the specific accommodation requests can really vary from student to student as well as their major. For example, someone who is majoring in a language or literature type field, like I did, might not need as many accommodations as someone studying in, say, mathematics or a science-type field like biology or chemistry. That being said, could you maybe elaborate a bit on what exactly you're looking for? Like maybe tell us what you plan on majoring in when you start college, etc, so we can try and help you better? Right now, I'm not real sure we're able to assist you based on the rather limited information we have at the moment. In any case, though, the first thing I would recommend is to get in touch with the Office for Disability Support Services in each of the schools you're applying to. This is something I think every aspiring college student who is blind or visually impaired, or who has a disability of any kind, should do, because they're essentially your primary resource for any and all accommodation requests associated with the school in question. I hope this information is helpful, and hopefully we'll get a bit more from you so we can try and help you in terms of what you're looking for specifically in terms of college accommodations. Good luck with your senior year and applying to colleges next year! All the best, SamiOn May 29, 2024 12:02 PM, Makenzie Love via NABS-L wrote: > > Hello, > My name is MaKenzie Love, and I am going to be a senior in high school and > I will be applying to colleges in the fall. I was wondering if anyone would > be willing to share their experiences with accommodations so far as a > college student? What accommodations have worked the best and what negative > experiences have you had? I would love to hear about your experiences. > Please feel free to reach me directly at love.makenzie07 at gmail.com. > Thank you, > MaKenzie Love > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sami.j.osborne97%40gmail.com From armando at armandovias.com Thu May 30 13:59:42 2024 From: armando at armandovias.com (Armando Vias) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 13:59:42 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Blind advocate Armando Vias reflects on accessibility in voting Message-ID: I was honored to be on Houston home journal to discuss my experience with me voting at the polls. This was during early voting. https://hhjonline.com/blind-advocate-armando-vias-reflects-on-accessibility-in-voting/ Blind advocate Armando Vias reflects on accessibility in voting Owen Jones/HHJ Staff Writer Jones [Armando Vias]Armando Vias WARNER ROBINS – Armando Vias is a community advocate who is blind and is advocating for the disabled and blind community. Lately, Vias has been writing letters to companies to ensure website accessibility. “I am also still advocating for reliable and affordable public transportation in Houston County,” he said. Vias voted at the North Houston Sports Complex in Warner Robins on May 1 and said it was quite a ways away from his place of living. He then began having issues with the adaptive voting machine. “The problem at first was I thought the controller was not working when I tried to turn the volume up or down,” he said. Vias said they ended up calling over a voting technician to see what the problem was. They then had to get a new controller, so Vias had to wait longer than he wanted. “While I was waiting, one of the poll workers and I just walked around the track just to pass the time and keep the stress down,” he said. Still waiting, Vias went to lunch; when he returned, he was told the machine was ready. “The second time, however, I was trying to vote and it still did not work,” he said. “They came back and realized they made a mistake and must have pressed the wrong setting.” After correcting this mistake, the machine finally worked and Vias could vote. After his experience voting, Vias then went to the next Board of Elections meeting and expressed his concerns. “I wanted to make sure that this doesn’t happen to other people with disabilities who are blind or visually impaired,” he said. “As an advocate, I wanted to make sure that people with disabilities have voting rights so that they can vote privately and independently.” Vias is still not entirely sure if the Board of Elections can fix these issues for this upcoming election, but is hopeful for change. “I just wanted to bring this up right now since I don’t want this to happen in a major election in 2024,” he said. “I want people with disabilities to know that advocacy is very important, and if something does not work, you need to advocate for yourself to make sure it works correctly.” People with disabilities deserving their right to vote is very important to Vias. “People with disabilities deserve a voice to vote and deserve to make their voice heard,” he said. “If a wrong leader is elected into office, our disability rights are threatened and I don’t want that to happen. We should advocate and keep fighting for our rights for equal access to society.” Along with advocating for the disabled community, Vias works for Disability Connections in Macon. Their five core services include resource referral, peer support, advocacy, independent living skills training, and transitions for adults and youth. For more information about Disability Connections visit https://www.disabilityconnections.com/ Thanks for reading The Houston Home Journal — we hope this article added to your day. For over 150 years, Houston Home Journal has been the newspaper of record for Perry, Warner Robins and Centerville. We're excited to expand our online news coverage, while maintaining our twice-weekly print newspaper. If you like what you see, please consider becoming a member of The Houston Home Journal. We're all in this together, working for a better Warner Robins, Perry and Centerville, and we appreciate and need your support. Please join the readers like you who help make community journalism possible by joining The Houston Home Journal. Thank you. - Brieanna Smith, Houston Home Journal managing editor Sent from my iPhone From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Thu May 30 22:54:24 2024 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 22:54:24 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind Message-ID: Dear NABS members and leaders, I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any thoughts that our students can offer. I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about this. Here is the current draft of the resolution Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind services in New England today; and WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. Thank you in advance for your feedback. Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu From kinnickwoolley at gmail.com Thu May 30 23:09:54 2024 From: kinnickwoolley at gmail.com (Kinnick Woolley) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 18:09:54 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, I did not know the history of that school. I wonder what else they would call the school if they didn’t call it the Perkins school for the blind. But you could probably bring it up to them and ask people during the convention. Shanon Woolley Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2024, at 5:55 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear NABS members and leaders, > > I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any thoughts that our students can offer. > > I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about this. > > Here is the current draft of the resolution > > Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind > > WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and > > WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and > > WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind services in New England today; and > > WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and > > WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and > > WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and > > WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and > > WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore > > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and > > BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > Justin > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kinnickwoolley%40gmail.com From piano.girl0299 at gmail.com Thu May 30 23:40:56 2024 From: piano.girl0299 at gmail.com (Kelsey Nicolay) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 19:40:56 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Blackboard versus Canvas Message-ID: <1799536F-EA23-4098-81C7-BBD5F9B8D51B@gmail.com> Hello all Hoping you all can help out here. I am looking into going back for a Master's degree in Human Resources or an MBA in Human Resources. I did my undergraduate studies at Ashland on campus and liked it, but I will need to do the Master's online due to working full time. Ashland offers a tuition discount for alumni, so I'm really leaning toward them. However, they use BlackBoard for their course content which I have heard is not very accessible with JAWS, so that concerns me a bit. They also use Webex for live sessions and require all students to have their video on at all times which can be tricky for someone who is blind due to having to position the camera properly. I have also heard commercials for Franklin University and also like their program. They are using Canvas and they encourage univers at l course design by faculty. from an assistive technology perspective, which of the two systems would be more accessible? I know neither BlackBoard nor Canvas are 100 percent accessible with JAWS, but I don't want lack of accessibility to be a barrier, so I would love some insight on which of these systems would cause less frustration in the long run. Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Thu May 30 23:42:57 2024 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 23:42:57 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Shannon, Thank you for that. I don't personally feel inclined to tell them what their new name should be, at least at this point in the process. I am open to us being involved in that conversation, but I think their governing body is going to have to decide that a name change is necessary before they go through a process of choosing a new name. When schools do that, it tends to be a big process where they take community feedback and figure out what the new name should be, but that comes after they've made a determination that the name should be changed. Aloha, Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu ________________________________________ From: Kinnick Woolley [kinnickwoolley at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 7:09 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Justin Salisbury Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind Wow, I did not know the history of that school. I wonder what else they would call the school if they didn’t call it the Perkins school for the blind. But you could probably bring it up to them and ask people during the convention. Shanon Woolley Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2024, at 5:55 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: > > Dear NABS members and leaders, > > I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any thoughts that our students can offer. > > I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about this. > > Here is the current draft of the resolution > > Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind > > WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and > > WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and > > WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind services in New England today; and > > WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and > > WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and > > WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and > > WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and > > WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore > > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and > > BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > Justin > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kinnickwoolley%40gmail.com From cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com Fri May 31 00:30:18 2024 From: cory.j.mcmahon at gmail.com (Cory McMahon) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 19:30:18 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Blackboard versus Canvas In-Reply-To: <1799536F-EA23-4098-81C7-BBD5F9B8D51B@gmail.com> References: <1799536F-EA23-4098-81C7-BBD5F9B8D51B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18bf01dab2f1$b78f3850$26ada8f0$@gmail.com> While I cannot speak to Black Board versus canvas, I can speak to the accessibility of Web-Ex; I use it daily for participation in work meetings, and find it user-friendly. Sincerely, Cory McMahon -----Original Message----- From: NABS-L On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 6:41 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Cc: Kelsey Nicolay Subject: [NABS-L] Blackboard versus Canvas Hello all Hoping you all can help out here. I am looking into going back for a Master's degree in Human Resources or an MBA in Human Resources. I did my undergraduate studies at Ashland on campus and liked it, but I will need to do the Master's online due to working full time. Ashland offers a tuition discount for alumni, so I'm really leaning toward them. However, they use BlackBoard for their course content which I have heard is not very accessible with JAWS, so that concerns me a bit. They also use Webex for live sessions and require all students to have their video on at all times which can be tricky for someone who is blind due to having to position the camera properly. I have also heard commercials for Franklin University and also like their program. They are using Canvas and they encourage univers at l course design by faculty. from an assistive technology perspective, which of the two systems would be more accessible? I know neither BlackBoard nor Canvas are 100 percent accessible with JAWS, but I don't want lack of accessibility to be a barrier, so I would love some insight on which of these systems would cause less frustration in the long run. Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/cory.j.mcmahon%40gmail.com From kimmbell01 at gmail.com Fri May 31 02:30:16 2024 From: kimmbell01 at gmail.com (kim drudge) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 22:30:16 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I somewhat agree, but somewhat disagree. Mr. Perkins made the Perkins brailler, the smart brailler, and the light-touch brailler. Instead of having the name of Perkins Asylum and Institution, it should just be named "Perkins School for the Blind". Also, I believe Perkins should expand to include people who are deafblind. Thank you, Kim On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:55 PM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Dear NABS members and leaders, > > I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National > Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's > national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for > the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about > the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this > before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any > thoughts that our students can offer. > > I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some > people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national > convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we > come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National > Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are > committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are > complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point > in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will > vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about > this. > > Here is the current draft of the resolution > > Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School > for the Blind > > WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and > opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and > > WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins > Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for > generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and > > WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution > including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind > services in New England today; and > > WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to > start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the > goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the > Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and > > WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling > opium into China; and > > WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences > with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students > and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not > disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and > > WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler > perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and > > WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges > that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium > smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to > those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore > > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention > assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, > that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and > illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating > in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space > sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School > for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical > wrongs; and > > BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School > for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and > inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd > Perkins. > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > Justin > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com > -- Kim Drudge Behind a great man is a strong woman. From kimmbell01 at gmail.com Fri May 31 02:32:54 2024 From: kimmbell01 at gmail.com (kim drudge) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 22:32:54 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Blackboard versus Canvas In-Reply-To: <1799536F-EA23-4098-81C7-BBD5F9B8D51B@gmail.com> References: <1799536F-EA23-4098-81C7-BBD5F9B8D51B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Definitely use Canvas -- it's more accessible! I've never used Blackboard, but Canvas is mostly very accessible. I go to a community college, and it's mostly up to the professor to make things accessible. Just tell the professor what you need and they'll make it accessible to the best of their abilities. However, I have a friend who uses Blackboard, and it's ok for her. But I'd definitely go for Canvas. Thanks, Kim On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 7:42 PM Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L wrote: > Hello all > Hoping you all can help out here. I am looking into going back for a > Master's degree in Human Resources or an MBA in Human Resources. I did my > undergraduate studies at Ashland on campus and liked it, but I will need to > do the Master's online due to working full time. Ashland offers a tuition > discount for alumni, so I'm really leaning toward them. However, they use > BlackBoard for their course content which I have heard is not very > accessible with JAWS, so that concerns me a bit. They also use Webex for > live sessions and require all students to have their video on at all times > which can be tricky for someone who is blind due to having to position the > camera properly. I have also heard commercials for Franklin University and > also like their program. They are using Canvas and they encourage univers at l > course design by faculty. from an assistive technology perspective, which > of the two systems would be more accessible? I know neither BlackBoard nor > Canvas are 100 percent accessible with JAWS, but I don't want lack of > accessibility to be a barrier, so I would love some insight on which of > these systems would cause less frustration in the long run. > Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com > -- Kim Drudge Behind a great man is a strong woman. From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Fri May 31 02:37:41 2024 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 02:37:41 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kim, You may be relieved to know that Mr. Perkins did not participate in any of the technological inventions. They were developed and produced in ways that related to the school, but he did not have any direct role in inventing those things. They bear his name because the school bears his name. Also, the name of the organization today is the "Perkins School for the Blind." I looked up their tax records, and they file taxes under that name now. I don't know when they switched from the 1839 name, but maybe your feedback tells me that I should add something to that Whereas clause to help people understand that the name has evolved since then but has continued to bear his name since 1839. Aloha, Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu ________________________________________ From: kim drudge [kimmbell01 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:30 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Justin Salisbury Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind Hello, I somewhat agree, but somewhat disagree. Mr. Perkins made the Perkins brailler, the smart brailler, and the light-touch brailler. Instead of having the name of Perkins Asylum and Institution, it should just be named "Perkins School for the Blind". Also, I believe Perkins should expand to include people who are deafblind. Thank you, Kim On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:55 PM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L > wrote: Dear NABS members and leaders, I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any thoughts that our students can offer. I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about this. Here is the current draft of the resolution Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind services in New England today; and WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. Thank you in advance for your feedback. Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com -- Kim Drudge Behind a great man is a strong woman. From tyler at tysdomain.com Fri May 31 02:40:33 2024 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Ty Littlefield) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 20:40:33 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Whereas in the first part is misspelled. I don't have any other feedback either way, but it caught my attention. On 5/30/2024 8:37 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: > Hi Kim, > > You may be relieved to know that Mr. Perkins did not participate in any of the technological inventions. They were developed and produced in ways that related to the school, but he did not have any direct role in inventing those things. They bear his name because the school bears his name. > > Also, the name of the organization today is the "Perkins School for the Blind." I looked up their tax records, and they file taxes under that name now. I don't know when they switched from the 1839 name, but maybe your feedback tells me that I should add something to that Whereas clause to help people understand that the name has evolved since then but has continued to bear his name since 1839. > > Aloha, > > Justin > > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email:President at Alumni.ECU.edu > ________________________________________ > From: kim drudge [kimmbell01 at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:30 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Justin Salisbury > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind > > Hello, > I somewhat agree, but somewhat disagree. Mr. Perkins made the Perkins brailler, the smart brailler, and the light-touch brailler. > Instead of having the name of Perkins Asylum and Institution, it should just be named "Perkins School for the Blind". Also, I believe Perkins should expand to include people who are deafblind. > Thank you, > Kim > > On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:55 PM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L > wrote: > Dear NABS members and leaders, > > I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any thoughts that our students can offer. > > I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about this. > > Here is the current draft of the resolution > > Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind > > WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and > > WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and > > WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind services in New England today; and > > WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and > > WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and > > WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and > > WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and > > WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore > > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and > > BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > Justin > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email:President at Alumni.ECU.edu > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com > > > -- > Kim Drudge > Behind a great man is a strong woman. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- *Ty Littlefield* Software Developer | Blogger | Audio Engineer Cell: (720) 314-8194 Blog: From Bytes to Bites From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Fri May 31 02:47:45 2024 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 02:47:45 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good catch! Thanks, Tyler. Aloha, Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu ________________________________________ From: Ty Littlefield [tyler at tysdomain.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:40 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; kim drudge Cc: Justin Salisbury Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind Whereas in the first part is misspelled. I don't have any other feedback either way, but it caught my attention. On 5/30/2024 8:37 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: Hi Kim, You may be relieved to know that Mr. Perkins did not participate in any of the technological inventions. They were developed and produced in ways that related to the school, but he did not have any direct role in inventing those things. They bear his name because the school bears his name. Also, the name of the organization today is the "Perkins School for the Blind." I looked up their tax records, and they file taxes under that name now. I don't know when they switched from the 1839 name, but maybe your feedback tells me that I should add something to that Whereas clause to help people understand that the name has evolved since then but has continued to bear his name since 1839. Aloha, Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu ________________________________________ From: kim drudge [kimmbell01 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:30 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Justin Salisbury Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind Hello, I somewhat agree, but somewhat disagree. Mr. Perkins made the Perkins brailler, the smart brailler, and the light-touch brailler. Instead of having the name of Perkins Asylum and Institution, it should just be named "Perkins School for the Blind". Also, I believe Perkins should expand to include people who are deafblind. Thank you, Kim On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:55 PM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L > wrote: Dear NABS members and leaders, I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any thoughts that our students can offer. I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about this. Here is the current draft of the resolution Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind services in New England today; and WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. Thank you in advance for your feedback. Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com -- Kim Drudge Behind a great man is a strong woman. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com -- Ty Littlefield Software Developer | Blogger | Audio Engineer Cell: (720) 314-8194 Blog: From Bytes to Bites From alishag.important2018 at gmail.com Fri May 31 03:28:39 2024 From: alishag.important2018 at gmail.com (Alisha Geary) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 22:28:39 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <800C491B-32B0-4911-BCE6-A0EF4C3B843D@gmail.com> Hey, just constructive, not anything to do with my opinion on the matter, but if you really want to make it read better and be a change maker, there’s a misuse of “where as,” multiple times. You’d typically use it to make comparisons. similar to “is to,” or “in the same vein,” etc. if you want to make it easier for people to understand, I’d loose the “where as,” and put more meaningful and understandable phrases and words in its place. Kind regards, Alisha > On May 30, 2024, at 9:38 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi Kim, > > You may be relieved to know that Mr. Perkins did not participate in any of the technological inventions. They were developed and produced in ways that related to the school, but he did not have any direct role in inventing those things. They bear his name because the school bears his name. > > Also, the name of the organization today is the "Perkins School for the Blind." I looked up their tax records, and they file taxes under that name now. I don't know when they switched from the 1839 name, but maybe your feedback tells me that I should add something to that Whereas clause to help people understand that the name has evolved since then but has continued to bear his name since 1839. > > Aloha, > > Justin > > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > ________________________________________ > From: kim drudge [kimmbell01 at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:30 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Cc: Justin Salisbury > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind > > Hello, > I somewhat agree, but somewhat disagree. Mr. Perkins made the Perkins brailler, the smart brailler, and the light-touch brailler. > Instead of having the name of Perkins Asylum and Institution, it should just be named "Perkins School for the Blind". Also, I believe Perkins should expand to include people who are deafblind. > Thank you, > Kim > > On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:55 PM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L > wrote: > Dear NABS members and leaders, > > I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any thoughts that our students can offer. > > I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about this. > > Here is the current draft of the resolution > > Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind > > WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and > > WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and > > WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind services in New England today; and > > WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and > > WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and > > WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and > > WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and > > WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore > > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and > > BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > Justin > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com > > > -- > Kim Drudge > Behind a great man is a strong woman. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alishag.important2018%40gmail.com From alishag.important2018 at gmail.com Fri May 31 03:36:59 2024 From: alishag.important2018 at gmail.com (Alisha Geary) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 22:36:59 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Blackboard versus Canvas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <455205E5-B0BA-4E2F-A72A-AA8EFE56FD8C@gmail.com> I love Canvas! I used to go to a school that used D2L and it had rather messy accessibility at best and broken useless accessibility at worst. Canvas is superior to D2L for sure. I’ve never used Blackboard though. Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2024, at 9:34 PM, kim drudge via NABS-L wrote: > > Hi, > Definitely use Canvas -- it's more accessible! > I've never used Blackboard, but Canvas is mostly very accessible. I go to a > community college, and it's mostly up to the professor to make things > accessible. Just tell the professor what you need and they'll make it > accessible to the best of their abilities. > However, I have a friend who uses Blackboard, and it's ok for her. But I'd > definitely go for Canvas. > Thanks, > Kim > >> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 7:42 PM Kelsey Nicolay via NABS-L >> wrote: >> >> Hello all >> Hoping you all can help out here. I am looking into going back for a >> Master's degree in Human Resources or an MBA in Human Resources. I did my >> undergraduate studies at Ashland on campus and liked it, but I will need to >> do the Master's online due to working full time. Ashland offers a tuition >> discount for alumni, so I'm really leaning toward them. However, they use >> BlackBoard for their course content which I have heard is not very >> accessible with JAWS, so that concerns me a bit. They also use Webex for >> live sessions and require all students to have their video on at all times >> which can be tricky for someone who is blind due to having to position the >> camera properly. I have also heard commercials for Franklin University and >> also like their program. They are using Canvas and they encourage univers at l >> course design by faculty. from an assistive technology perspective, which >> of the two systems would be more accessible? I know neither BlackBoard nor >> Canvas are 100 percent accessible with JAWS, but I don't want lack of >> accessibility to be a barrier, so I would love some insight on which of >> these systems would cause less frustration in the long run. >> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Kim Drudge > Behind a great man is a strong woman. > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alishag.important2018%40gmail.com From kimmbell01 at gmail.com Fri May 31 04:25:29 2024 From: kimmbell01 at gmail.com (kim drudge) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 00:25:29 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: <800C491B-32B0-4911-BCE6-A0EF4C3B843D@gmail.com> References: <800C491B-32B0-4911-BCE6-A0EF4C3B843D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, I agree. Plain language, as it is called, is getting more common, and in my opinion, plain language is paramount (important)! Kim On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 11:30 PM Alisha Geary via NABS-L wrote: > Hey, just constructive, not anything to do with my opinion on the matter, > but if you really want to make it read better and be a change maker, > there’s a misuse of “where as,” multiple times. You’d typically use it to > make comparisons. similar to “is to,” or “in the same vein,” etc. if you > want to make it easier for people to understand, I’d loose the “where as,” > and put more meaningful and understandable phrases and words in its place. > > Kind regards, > Alisha > > > On May 30, 2024, at 9:38 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Kim, > > > > You may be relieved to know that Mr. Perkins did not participate in any > of the technological inventions. They were developed and produced in ways > that related to the school, but he did not have any direct role in > inventing those things. They bear his name because the school bears his > name. > > > > Also, the name of the organization today is the "Perkins School for the > Blind." I looked up their tax records, and they file taxes under that name > now. I don't know when they switched from the 1839 name, but maybe your > feedback tells me that I should add something to that Whereas clause to > help people understand that the name has evolved since then but has > continued to bear his name since 1839. > > > > Aloha, > > > > Justin > > > > > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > > English Pronouns: he/him/his > > Phone: 808.797.8606 > > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > > ________________________________________ > > From: kim drudge [kimmbell01 at gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:30 PM > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > > Cc: Justin Salisbury > > Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about > Changing the Name of a School for the Blind > > > > Hello, > > I somewhat agree, but somewhat disagree. Mr. Perkins made the Perkins > brailler, the smart brailler, and the light-touch brailler. > > Instead of having the name of Perkins Asylum and Institution, it should > just be named "Perkins School for the Blind". Also, I believe Perkins > should expand to include people who are deafblind. > > Thank you, > > Kim > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:55 PM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L < > nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Dear NABS members and leaders, > > > > I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National > Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's > national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for > the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about > the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this > before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any > thoughts that our students can offer. > > > > I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some > people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national > convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we > come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National > Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are > committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are > complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point > in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will > vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about > this. > > > > Here is the current draft of the resolution > > > > Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School > for the Blind > > > > WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 > and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and > > > > WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins > Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for > generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and > > > > WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution > including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind > services in New England today; and > > > > WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family > to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the > goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the > Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and > > > > WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling > opium into China; and > > > > WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational > experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader > teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these > immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and > > > > WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler > perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and > > > > WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges > that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium > smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to > those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore > > > > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention > assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, > that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and > illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating > in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space > sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and > > > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins > School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these > historical wrongs; and > > > > BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School > for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and > inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd > Perkins. > > > > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > > > Justin > > > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > > English Pronouns: he/him/his > > Phone: 808.797.8606 > > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com > > > > > > -- > > Kim Drudge > > Behind a great man is a strong woman. > > _______________________________________________ > > NABS-L mailing list > > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alishag.important2018%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com > -- Kim Drudge Behind a great man is a strong woman. From tyler at tysdomain.com Fri May 31 04:52:54 2024 From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Ty Littlefield) Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 22:52:54 -0600 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: References: <800C491B-32B0-4911-BCE6-A0EF4C3B843D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8aa58a3f-dcc1-46ee-b68d-27030671e3d4@tysdomain.com> This is the format of resolutions. Whether NFB or in many other organizations, this is how they're expected to be written. On 5/30/2024 10:25 PM, kim drudge via NABS-L wrote: > Yes, I agree. Plain language, as it is called, is getting more common, and > in my opinion, plain language is paramount (important)! > Kim > > On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 11:30 PM Alisha Geary via NABS-L > wrote: > >> Hey, just constructive, not anything to do with my opinion on the matter, >> but if you really want to make it read better and be a change maker, >> there’s a misuse of “where as,” multiple times. You’d typically use it to >> make comparisons. similar to “is to,” or “in the same vein,” etc. if you >> want to make it easier for people to understand, I’d loose the “where as,” >> and put more meaningful and understandable phrases and words in its place. >> >> Kind regards, >> Alisha >> >>> On May 30, 2024, at 9:38 PM, Justin Salisbury via NABS-L < >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> Hi Kim, >>> >>> You may be relieved to know that Mr. Perkins did not participate in any >> of the technological inventions. They were developed and produced in ways >> that related to the school, but he did not have any direct role in >> inventing those things. They bear his name because the school bears his >> name. >>> Also, the name of the organization today is the "Perkins School for the >> Blind." I looked up their tax records, and they file taxes under that name >> now. I don't know when they switched from the 1839 name, but maybe your >> feedback tells me that I should add something to that Whereas clause to >> help people understand that the name has evolved since then but has >> continued to bear his name since 1839. >>> Aloha, >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> >>> Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB >>> English Pronouns: he/him/his >>> Phone: 808.797.8606 >>> Email:President at Alumni.ECU.edu >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: kim drudge [kimmbell01 at gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:30 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Cc: Justin Salisbury >>> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about >> Changing the Name of a School for the Blind >>> Hello, >>> I somewhat agree, but somewhat disagree. Mr. Perkins made the Perkins >> brailler, the smart brailler, and the light-touch brailler. >>> Instead of having the name of Perkins Asylum and Institution, it should >> just be named "Perkins School for the Blind". Also, I believe Perkins >> should expand to include people who are deafblind. >>> Thank you, >>> Kim >>> >>> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:55 PM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L < >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> Dear NABS members and leaders, >>> >>> I am preparing to submit a resolution to be considered by the National >> Federation of the Blind Convention in July. Since this is the NFB's >> national student division, and since this resolution is about a school for >> the blind, I am writing to ask for feedback that anyone might have about >> the content and/or structure of this resolution. I plan to submit this >> before the June 4 submission deadline, but I would love to hear any >> thoughts that our students can offer. >>> I will say even before posting the resolution that I expect that some >> people may have strong feelings about this. For me, however the national >> convention votes, I think it will be very instructive for all of us as we >> come to more fully and completely understand the philosophy of the National >> Federation of the Blind and what we truly mean when we say that we are >> committed to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. These conversations are >> complex, and they can be messy. They are also very important. At this point >> in time, I truly don't know how I think the full national convention will >> vote, but I would like to learn. I want to hear what people think about >> this. >>> Here is the current draft of the resolution >>> >>> Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School >> for the Blind >>> WHERAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 >> and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and >>> WHEREAS, The school changed its name in 1839 to become the Perkins >> Institution and Massachusetts Asylum for the Blind in appreciation for >> generous financial support from Thomas Handasyd Perkins; and >>> WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution >> including its library and products, remains a major factor in blind >> services in New England today; and >>> WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family >> to start an international trading business, where he traded slaves and the >> goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the >> Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and >>> WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling >> opium into China; and >>> WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational >> experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader >> teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these >> immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and >>> WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler >> perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and >>> WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges >> that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium >> smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to >> those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore >>> BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention >> assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, >> that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and >> illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating >> in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space >> sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and >>> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins >> School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these >> historical wrongs; and >>> BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School >> for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and >> inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd >> Perkins. >>> >>> Thank you in advance for your feedback. >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB >>> English Pronouns: he/him/his >>> Phone: 808.797.8606 >>> Email:President at Alumni.ECU.edu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> Kim Drudge >>> Behind a great man is a strong woman. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NABS-L mailing list >>> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/alishag.important2018%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NABS-L mailing list >> NABS-L at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> NABS-L: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com >> > -- *Ty Littlefield* Software Developer | Blogger | Audio Engineer Cell: (720) 314-8194 Blog: From Bytes to Bites From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Fri May 31 12:53:01 2024 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 12:53:01 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Draft Resolution 2.0, Seeking Further Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Everyone, After the feedback I've gotten so far, here is a second version of this resolution. Please continue to share any thoughts that you have. It is improving because of your participation in the process. Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind WHEREAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and WHEREAS, In 1839, the Asylum was renamed after Thomas Handasyd Perkins after he donated to it, and, after further name changes, that entity is known today as the Perkins School for the Blind; and WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains an important provider of blindness-related services today; and WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded human slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. Thank you all, Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu From kimmbell01 at gmail.com Fri May 31 14:08:30 2024 From: kimmbell01 at gmail.com (kim drudge) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 10:08:30 -0400 Subject: [NABS-L] Draft Resolution 2.0, Seeking Further Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, I agree. However, it's always been called Perkins School for the Blind Could it be renamed "The Boston School for the Blind" or "Massachusetts School for the Blind", or "Massachusetts School of Succession for the Blind"? Could it also be renamed "U.S. School for Succession for the Blind?" Kim On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 8:54 AM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > After the feedback I've gotten so far, here is a second version of this > resolution. Please continue to share any thoughts that you have. It is > improving because of your participation in the process. > > Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School > for the Blind > > WHEREAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and > opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and > > WHEREAS, In 1839, the Asylum was renamed after Thomas Handasyd Perkins > after he donated to it, and, after further name changes, that entity is > known today as the Perkins School for the Blind; and > > WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution > including its library and products, remains an important provider of > blindness-related services today; and > > WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to > start an international trading business, where he traded human slaves and > the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the > Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and > > WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling > opium into China; and > > WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences > with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students > and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not > disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and > > WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler > perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and > > WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges > that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium > smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to > those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore > > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention > assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, > that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and > illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating > in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space > sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School > for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical > wrongs; and > > BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School > for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and > inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd > Perkins. > > Thank you all, > > Justin > > Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB > English Pronouns: he/him/his > Phone: 808.797.8606 > Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu > > _______________________________________________ > NABS-L mailing list > NABS-L at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > NABS-L: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com > -- Kim Drudge Behind a great man is a strong woman. From noahcarver494 at gmail.com Fri May 31 14:26:55 2024 From: noahcarver494 at gmail.com (Noah Carver) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 09:26:55 -0500 Subject: [NABS-L] Draft Resolution 2.0, Seeking Further Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F806FC9-A335-4EEA-8CBB-E14FD7DA6015@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu Fri May 31 15:31:31 2024 From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 15:31:31 +0000 Subject: [NABS-L] Draft Resolution 2.0, Seeking Further Feedback In-Reply-To: <2F806FC9-A335-4EEA-8CBB-E14FD7DA6015@gmail.com> References: <2F806FC9-A335-4EEA-8CBB-E14FD7DA6015@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Noah and everyone, Yes, the intent is to point out a current problem, applaud the school for the positive steps that it has already taken, and urge them to keep going further to make even more change. When schools go through renaming for reasons like this, step one is deciding that change will happen, and then step two is going through a big process to choose a new name. It often involves people submitting ideas for new names and then voting on which one is the best. I don't think it's helpful to focus on too many things at once, so let's cross that bridge when we get there. Also, just to be clear, it has not always been called the Perkins School for the Blind. If you look at the first two Whereas clauses, you'll notice that it has been renamed a few times. Please keep the thoughts coming. Wela'lioq (Thank you, plural), Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu ________________________________________ From: NABS-L [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Noah Carver via NABS-L [nabs-l at nfbnet.org] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 10:26 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Cc: Noah Carver Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Draft Resolution 2.0, Seeking Further Feedback Perhaps Justin can clarify, however I believe the intent of the resolution isn’t to dictate what the new name should be but rather to point out the harmful impact of the current name and call for change. -- Noah Carver (He/They) Candidate, B.M. '26 | Applied Music (Performance) -- Voice Eastman School of Music | University of Rochester Co-chair, Content Creation Cmte. | National Association of Blind Students [JAWS Certified, 2024] +1 (207) 557-9143 noahcarver494 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone using dictation. All errors brought to you by Apple. On May 31, 2024, at 9:10 AM, kim drudge via NABS-L wrote: OK, I agree. However, it's always been called Perkins School for the Blind Could it be renamed "The Boston School for the Blind" or "Massachusetts School for the Blind", or "Massachusetts School of Succession for the Blind"? Could it also be renamed "U.S. School for Succession for the Blind?" Kim On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 8:54 AM Justin Salisbury via NABS-L < nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote: Hi Everyone, After the feedback I've gotten so far, here is a second version of this resolution. Please continue to share any thoughts that you have. It is improving because of your participation in the process. Resolution 2024-##, Regarding the Harmful Namesake of the Perkins School for the Blind WHEREAS, The New England Asylum for the Blind was incorporated in 1829 and opened its doors in August 1832 in Boston, Massachusetts; and WHEREAS, In 1839, the Asylum was renamed after Thomas Handasyd Perkins after he donated to it, and, after further name changes, that entity is known today as the Perkins School for the Blind; and WHEREAS, The Perkins School for the Blind, as a collective institution including its library and products, remains an important provider of blindness-related services today; and WHEREAS, Born in 1764, T. H. Perkins used money from his wealthy family to start an international trading business, where he traded human slaves and the goods produced by their labor, including cotton, sugar, and rum, in the Caribbean, until the Haitian Revolution in 1791; and WHEREAS, T. H. Perkins later expanded his fortune by illegally smuggling opium into China; and WHEREAS, Pairing valuable products, services, and educational experiences with the name of a known opium smuggler and slave trader teaches students and community members of all backgrounds that these immoral acts are not disqualifiers for being publicly honored; and WHEREAS, Continuing to honor a known slave trader and opium smuggler perpetuates intergenerational trauma for people of all colors; and WHEREAS, On its website, the Perkins School for the Blind acknowledges that it has financially benefitted from both the slave trade and opium smuggling, and acknowledges the problems caused by this, particularly to those in Black and Chinese communities; now, therefore BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 2024, in the City of Orlando, Florida, that this organization asserts that the enslavement of human beings and illegal smuggling of opium are unequivocally immoral and that participating in these wrongdoings is a disqualifier for being honored in any space sufficiently influenced by the National Federation of the Blind; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this organization commends the Perkins School for the Blind for acknowledging how it has benefited from these historical wrongs; and BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, That this organization urges the Perkins School for the Blind to advance its efforts to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion by changing its name to remove all references to Thomas Handasyd Perkins. Thank you all, Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: he/him/his Phone: 808.797.8606 Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kimmbell01%40gmail.com -- Kim Drudge Behind a great man is a strong woman. _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/noahcarver494%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ NABS-L mailing list NABS-L at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/president%40alumni.ecu.edu From buhrow at nfbcal.org Fri May 31 16:52:59 2024 From: buhrow at nfbcal.org (Brian Buhrow) Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 09:52:59 -0700 Subject: [NABS-L] Seeking Feedback on Draft Resolution about Changing the Name of a School for the Blind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <202405311652.44VGqxvf017085@nfbcal.org> hello Justin. Out here in California, our local community college recently considered changing its name for many of the same reasons you urge the Perkins School for the Blind to change its name. There was a lot of heated debate both for and against the change. One of the strong arguments against the change, which I think will apply here, is the notion of current name recognition. I imagine, but don't know for sure, that the Perkins School secures many of the donations it receives to run its current operations based on the name recognition it has in the blindness services field. Clearly the leaders at the Perkins School understand the problmatic nature of their benifactor's legacy by virtue of the fact that they acknowledge it on their web site. While I don't know how the National Convention wil vote on this resolution, I think it instructive to tell you what happened here with the local community college. After considering a number of alternative new names, all of which were problematic for one group or another, while, at the same time, taking the current value of its old name recognition into account, the board of trustees for this community college decided to take no action and not change the name of the college at this time. Considering the fact that this college is a local college and that it is only 50 years old, versus the fact that Perkins School has been known by its current name for over 150 years, I don't think this will be an easy change for the school's board to make. -Brian