<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Asia,</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this message finds you well.</div><div><br></div><div>On your Mantis, have you tried navigating to the glossary bookmark before using the find function? I could be wrong, but if memory serves, using the find function in this way should Search from your cursor position to the end of the document and should therefore roughly be equivalent to searching only the glossary. However, if this is not the case, please disregard this input.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps.</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div><br></div><div>Noah</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">--<br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Noah Carver</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Candidate, B.M. '26 | Applied Music (Performance) -- Voice</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Eastman School of Music | University of Rochester</span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification" target="_blank"><img alt="JAWS Certified, 2024" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zbkcUb36hg56SrgA5QAsgn_qZkRQVYdCMm0YxSc2zj5qBt1nR_RM23uq5jBLhwIrJpNnTq9VY" data-unique-identifier=""></a><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="tel:+12075579143" target="_blank">+1 (207) 557-9143</a><br></span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:noahcarver494@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">noahcarver494@gmail.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from my iPhone using dictation. All errors brought to you by Apple.</span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 5, 2024, at 9:30 PM, Asia Quinones-Evans via NABS-L <nabs-l@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>I appreciate all of this information. I keep in very close contact with my</span><br><span>Accessibility department and my professor. The biggest issue I am coming</span><br><span>across is that the pages in my BRF file from Book Share does not line up</span><br><span>with the actual textbook pages. I do get a lot of my books off of Bookshare</span><br><span>for my classes. If they do not have it I like to send in a book request and</span><br><span>majority of the time they get it. since this book is from American Council</span><br><span>of exercise there are very few ways to get an electronic format of the</span><br><span>book. The two devices that I mentioned in my earlier email I have</span><br><span>downloaded the BRF of the textbook onto both of those devices. I have</span><br><span>contacted Humanware about the strange issue with the Victor and I know my</span><br><span>accessibility department cannot do anything about it. I was just wondering</span><br><span>if anyone has any advice on how to complete this kind of activity in class.</span><br><span>When the professor request us to read a certain passage from the textbook</span><br><span>it is literally on a specific page in the middle of the page. So of course</span><br><span>a sided individual can find it very easily with scanning but it is a bit</span><br><span>more difficult for a blind person to find it. I thought I could</span><br><span>participate with finding some of the words in the glossary but I'm having</span><br><span>difficulty searching the word that I want just in the glossary not</span><br><span>throughout the entire book.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Yours truely,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Asia Quinones-Evans</span><br><span></span><br><span>Phone: 440-670-6509</span><br><span>Email: aevans.nfb@gmail.com</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 1:43 PM Kendra via NABS-L <nabs-l@nfbnet.org> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi all!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have experienced having to read text aloud in class before. Luckily in my</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>case, I already had my stuff in a format I could use with my braille</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>display</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>at the time. I was able to read that text in braille without accessibility</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>problems. The last teacher I had who required me to do this was a wealth of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>resources and I'd work with her again if I could. I can't help you with the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>technology itself because I don't have a Victor Reader Stream or the kind</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>braille display that you're using. I can give you work arounds regarding</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>your school's resources because often times, they can help with work</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>arounds</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that no one else can assist you with. Ok, sure, community colleges are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>better with resources than universities in general, but there are some</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>common resources that you might want to take advantage of if you haven't</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>done so yet.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Your school's disabilities department</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> If you haven't done so yet, go to whoever works your case at your school's</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>disabilities services, whatever they are called for you because their job</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to help sort out issues like this one. I know that everyone has a different</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>viewpoint about accessible course paperwork, websites, ECT, but I believe</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that to make something fully accessible, it also has to be functional to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>user. Since you're running into bugs of this kind, let these people know</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about your problems and what your teacher is also requiring you to do with</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>your textbook. Hopefully, they'll be able to help come up with a better</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>workaround for this particular book. OK, working with your school's</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>disabilities department has some drawbacks, but they're still worth giving</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>try. For one thing, The laws are in favor of making your school's</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>disabilities department do all of the work when it comes to education and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>advocating, but there are still some drawbacks with these laws in place. I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>think the laws are best for the trickiest cases, and sometimes, the law</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>will</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>totally come in handy, but the people at your school's disabilities</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>department are not experts in the field of things like braille and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>blindness</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>tech. They specialize in making it accessible and to work out bugs that you</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>run into like this one. From my experience, your school's disabilities</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>department is also not a room or office that's full of a bunch of experts</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>what's actually accessible and what's claiming to be accessible and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>actually</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>isn't accessible after all. Even so, they still might be able to have a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>workaround that you don't have access to especially in working around the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>bugs. Even if they don't, they can still help you if you have tried to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>contact your professor and your professor either doesn't help you or that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>he, she, or they ghosts you and doesn't contact you back. Keep in mind that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>even they don't always or often know what works for you and what doesn't.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Your professor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> If I were you, I'd contact your professor as well and let them know about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>your problem because they might come up with an alternative workaround that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>even your disabilities department might not come up with. I believe in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>using</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>all or as many of my resources as I can including but not limited to the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>professor when finding workarounds because your professor might have extra</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>resources, documents, or access to info that can really help you such as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>someone in the library who can get you a good electronic copy for you to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>borrow for term. Even if your professor doesn't have resources, someone</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>else</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>might have some good ones. I'm not saying this will happen to you, but it's</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>worth a shot.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Other book places</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sometimes, but not always, you can get your required book from other</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>places.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Have you tried looking for it on Bookshare, Audible.com, BARD, Learning</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Alley, Kindle, ECT? It can't hurt because sometimes, you can find your book</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>on one of these other places. From my experience, I have only found my</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>books</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>on these other places a few times, but my school also had its own</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>publishing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>house that's specific to my school. It even went so far as to offer most of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>my school's textbooks to its student body instead of outsourcing in less it</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wasn't possible for a particular book or resource. If your school doesn't</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have such a publishing house, I think you'll have a better shot at finding</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>your textbook on one of these other resources. Ok, the risk for not finding</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it is rather high, but because it does happen, it's still worth a shot</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>because you won't know without performing searches there. Unfortunently,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>might be stuck with buying an electronic copy just to work around these</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>bugs. I'm giving you ideas that you can try first before having to buy that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>copy because if you don't have to buy it and you manage to come up with a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>good workaround, then awesome! I hope this will happen to you! I also hope</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>this helps!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kendra</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: NABS-L <nabs-l-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Asia Quinones-Evans</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>via NABS-L</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 2:24 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: nabs-l@nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: Asia Quinones-Evans <aevans.nfb@gmail.com></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [NABS-L] Reading out loud in class with a text book</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I was hoping anyone can tell me if you have had experiences in class where</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you may have to read certain passages from your text book. I know this is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>usually done in elementary school but my college professor is wanting us to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>read definitions out of the Glossary and sections of the text book during</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>class. I have a copy of my text book on my Victor Reader 3 but for some</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>reason it will not let me skip back to the chapter after I go to the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Glossary . Or if it does I have to press rewind then skip back chapters. I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have called Humanware about this and they are working on it. I also have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>braille copy of the book on my Mantis but again it is hard to search</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sections when the BRF does not line up with the actual text book. I have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>bookmarked the start of the Glossary but I do not know how to search for a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>term just in the Glossary not the entire book. An example would be that the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>professor tells us the page number the text is on that we will read out</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>loud</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and review.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is this something I just can not participate with or will I just have to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>try</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>pushing through it to participate? This book is from American Counsel of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Exercise so they do not give out free copies of the publishers pdf to get</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>an</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>electronic copy for my computer. Has any other student delt with this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>situation and how did you get through it?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yours Truly,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Asia Quinones-Evans</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phone: (440) 670-6509</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Email: aevans.nfb@gmail.com <mailto:aevans.nfb@gmail.com></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Live the life you want; Blindness is not what holds you back</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NABS-L mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NABS-L@nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NABS-L:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/kschaber%40my.chemeketa</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>edu</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NABS-L mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NABS-L@nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NABS-L:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/aevans.nfb%40gmail.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>NABS-L mailing list</span><br><span>NABS-L@nfbnet.org</span><br><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org</span><br><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NABS-L:</span><br><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/noahcarver494%40gmail.com</span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>