[nagdu] On D.C.'s streets, blind injustice

[Angie Matney]

Hi Dan,

Excellent post! Yes, I'd say this is the most significant issue I deal with. Where I live now, in Charlottesville, VA, access problems are pretty rare. But in Richmond, it's a different story. And I've also tried to get cabs in larger cities, so I know what 
you mean.

I have friends in Boston who have difficulties. It seems that a significant number of drivers there believe that they can choose to refuse a person who has a service dog. (I don't think the problem is unique to Boston--I just happen to know lots 
of people there who have had problems recently.)

Maybe the thing to do would be to write to state legislators and to try to get more media exposure. 

Angie



On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:37:22 -0500, Dan Weiner wrote:

>Yes, folks.
>I can attest to the veracity of this article having lived in Maryland and
>having gone to DC a few times.
>Why even have guide dogs if the law is violated with impunity so often it's
>not even funny.
>Of course, murder's against the law too and it still happens, right?
>And, don't think that the sting operation solved the problem in the Big
>Apple because when I've been there I always have had  problems.
>The New Carleton train station near DC was mentioned in the article and I've
>been there and yes I have had  a problem.

>It has gotten totally out of hand.

>Any guide dog user who claims there's no problem is living in a dream world.

>Let's discuss more often what type of joint campaign or action we as blind
>people with guide dogs can take to nix this problem.
>It's not something that one person can do alone as I've done the reporting
>and filing stuff and it doesn't solve the problem, just one case at a time.

>Somehow the consequences of violating the rules have to become sufficiently
>unpleasant to convince people violating the law to cease and desist.
>I've been thinking about this a long time and do think it's probably the
>most significant issue we as guide dog users face.


>Cordially,

>Dan W. and the hounds  

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>On D.C.'s Streets, Blind Injustice
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/03/AR2008120303
>752.html
>Jim Dickson, with his 3-year-old black Lab, Pearson, says he and others with
>guide dogs or wheelchairs often have trouble getting cabdrivers to stop for
>them in the District. (By John Kelly -- The Washington Post) 

>By John Kelly
>Thursday, December 4, 2008; Page B03
>The Washington Post
>Jim Dickson had the feeling empty cabs were zipping past him without
>stopping as he stood at 17th and L streets NW the week before last, his hand
>raised for a taxi. He didn't know for sure, though. Jim is blind. Standing
>next to him was his 3-year-old black Lab guide dog, Pearson. 

>I watched for a few minutes as taxis -- their rooftop lights lighted, their
>back seats vacant -- ignored Jim and Pearson, then I walked up and suggested
>he might have better luck at the Mayflower Hotel's cabstand. 

>"This is not a unique experience to me," Jim said. "People with guide dogs
>and people with wheelchairs complain all the time about cabs refusing to
>take them." 

>That seemed pretty cold -- refusing to stop for a disabled person? -- but
>then we got to the Mayflower. There were no cabs at that moment, but
>National Cab No. 64 soon pulled up and disgorged a passenger. The hotel
>doorman held the door for Jim and Pearson, but when the cabdriver saw them,
>he started shouting. The cab rolled forward a few inches, the door still
>open. Then the driver got out and started swearing at the doorman. After the
>door was shut, he got back behind the wheel and drove off. 

>The doorman was as disgusted as I was. Jim took the next cab. 

>A few days later, I spoke with Jim, who is vice president of government
>affairs for the American Association of People with Disabilities. Lots of
>drivers don't like dogs and won't stop, he said. "The only place it doesn't
>happen is up on Capitol Hill," said Jim, 62. "I usually get a Capitol
>policeman to flag the cab for me." 

>Mario Bonds, a 21-year-old student from Bowie who travels with his black
>Lab, Sydney, said the same thing. He often needs a cab at the New Carrollton
>Metro station. "I've felt quite stupid standing there for a long time, when
>a regular sighted person says, 'There's plenty of cabs here. I don't know
>what these guys are doing.' " 

>George Merriweather said it was so hard to get a cab for him and his
>standard poodle guide dog, Gambit, that he stopped coming into the District
>from Olney for doctor's appointments. "They're hard on blind people," said
>George, 61. "Especially if you've got a dog, you don't get in a cab." 

>Why wouldn't a cabdriver stop for a blind person with a dog? Some might be
>concerned that dogs would make the vehicle dirty, though Jim makes Pearson
>sit on the floor and on wet days carries paper towels to wipe the seat. Some
>might be allergic, though Jim said that if so, they're supposed to have a
>doctor's letter on file. Jim and Mario said some drivers have told them it's
>against their religion to have a dog in the car. Could that be true? 

>Some Muslims believe that dogs are unclean, said Abdullahi An-Na'im, a
>professor at Emory University who specializes in Islamic law, but this is
>more a cultural notion than a religious one. He said nothing in the Koran
>stipulates that dogs must be avoided. What's more, two Islamic tenets would
>override any reluctance to take a guide dog: the imperative of being helpful
>to someone in need, and what's known as darura, or necessity. If you're
>blind and need a dog, darura means that's okay. The same goes when you're a
>taxi driver who encounters blind passengers. 


>Said the professor: "I don't think that's acceptable for a Muslim" not to
>take a service animal in his cab. 

>The Big Apple solved this problem nine years ago with an awareness campaign
>and an undercover sting operation, said Allan Fromberg of New York's Taxi
>and Limousine Commission. Plainclothes officers and guide dogs were used to
>catch drivers who wouldn't stop. 

>tent that you post. 

>Who's Blogging> Links to this article
>When I called Leon Swain, chairman of the D.C. Taxicab Commission, and told
>him what I'd heard from visually impaired people, he was furious. "That's
>something that I have zero tolerance on," he said. "If you have a bona fide
>service animal, you need to be transported to the location." He invited Jim
>to file a complaint and has set up a meeting between cab company owners, the
>Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind and other local disability rights groups. 

>I asked the owner of National Cab Co., Balwinder Singh, to look into what I
>saw. He said the driver of No. 64 told him that he already had a passenger
>in his cab (an invisible one, I guess). "It's hard to prove for me," Singh
>said. "I'm telling you what he told me." He said licensed drivers "should be
>picking up whoever comes next" -- blind people and their dogs included. 

>Anyone can see that -- and every time I take a cab in the future I'll be
>reminding the driver of that fact. 

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