[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 45, Issue 6
Julie J.
jlcrane at alltel.net
Wed Dec 10 20:56:53 UTC 2008
Thanks! I have a Belle too!
Julie
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 45, Issue 6
> Ok, I am not a seamstress but my mother-in-law is and made a liner for my
> dog's coat for me. When I first brought my current guide, Belle home, her
> soft yellow coat was pretty thin and it was the coldest winter we'd had in
> a
> long time plus over 27 inches of snow. Poor Belle shivered at the bus stop
> so I bought a rain coat from the pet store. Now, my description of it, for
> those who haven't seen them. The rain coat is made of water proof
> material.
> It has two "sleeves" for the front legs which are fastened around the area
> above their paws with Velcro. The coat fastens on the back with Velcro as
> well. The tail area has a draw string gathering under the chest just at
> the
> beginning of the soft part of their stomach. On the top this velcroed area
> goes all the way back and covers their tail but the pieces that Velcro
> together there are analogous to tails on a tux so that the dog has
> movement.
> I find that the velcroed fasteners fit well around the harness and always
> put it on top of the harness. My mother-in-law, used this rain coat as a
> template and created a liner for the rain coat out of fleece. The "arms"
> are
> shorter than the ones on the raincoat and are sewn rather than fastening
> them with Velcro due to the bulk which would have been created. Around the
> neck, rather than the Velcro, she sewed darts to taylor it to fit Belle's
> neck. Under the tummy she used a soft elastic to gather the garment. Once
> again the Velcro goes down the full length of the liner to cover the back
> but not as far out as the rain coat. The rain coat has a hood which
> velcroes
> to the coat and around and under her neck. She doesn't like the hood, so I
> usually take it off since it is attached with Velcro but I do know that it
> helps if we have to stand in the rain for any length of time. It makes the
> travel much more comfortable for the dog and pleasant for those riding in
> the car, train or elevator with you and your dog. By the way, Belle's is
> blue to match her little blue boots she wears in the ice or on hot days. I
> would never put my professional guide in a knitted sweater because it
> would
> remind me of the snooty poodles I have seen sporting them. By the way, it
> is
> also possible to buy insolated coats for the dogs which I would buy if I
> lived in an area where there was a lot of cold and wind. The pet stores
> carry them as well and the same velcro fasteners allow you to put them on
> after the harness and bring them through the handle and fasten easily
> around
> the harness handle. The design allows you to work and take the coat off
> once
> you are in the warmth with vary little effort.
>
> On another note, I remember attending a ball game once when a man asked me
> if he could give my dog his pickle. I said that I did not feed my dog
> people
> food and besides she probably wouldn't eat it. His response was "well, she
> ate the first one". I could have died. The dog wasn't affected. I think
> that
> the best thing to remember about dogs is that there digestive system is
> basically the same as the human one. Given that they weigh less than we
> do,
> we should be careful about the quantity of anything. Also, dog food is
> produced with the nutrients and balance they need. Having said that, all
> four of my dogs have loved bananas. I had to give banana chips dipped in
> syrup when we were testing my first dog to see if her spells were caused
> by
> diabetes. My dogs have been known to scoop grapes off of the floor at the
> grocery store, french fries off of the floor at the McDonalds and crumbs
> from around my kids high chairs. In fact, I used a new command "living
> room"
> so that the dogs knew that they had to leave the room so that the kids
> couldn't hand them food from the table or high chair. The little
> conspirators. A couple of my dogs have enjoyed the smell, and the taste of
> wine, as I learned when the champaign cork blew off of the bottle and shot
> a
> fountain all over our dorm room floor. The sweetness is as attractive to
> them as anti freeze, but not as dangerous unless they consume a large
> quantity of it. My favorite dog eating story is when my dog was running
> and playing in the yard at my parents house with me and went to the garden
> and dug up and ate several large carrots, dirt and all. I was just sick at
> the idea of what we were going to have to do. Fortunately, they passed
> without any problem. After that Xilo got an occasional small carrot to
> eat,
> from my hand, not the garden. Just remember to watch your four-legged
> partners consumption of chocolate, poinsettias and other Holiday goodies
> during the season. Also remember to give them the exercise, affection and
> time they deserve during this busy Holiday season. It's their pay check.
> In
> fact, they deserve a bonus.
>
> Best wishes for a blessed Holiday season filled with love, memories, and
> not
> too many goodies.
>
> Joy and SEI Dog Belle.
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> 1. Re: Fwd: you don't look blind and Born and raised in
> Connecticut (Julie J.)
> 2. Re: skiing and guide dogs (Pickrell, Rebecca M.)
> 3. Re: drinking dogs (Ed Meskys)
> 4. Re: skiing trip info (eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com)
> 5. On D.C.'s streets, blind injustice (Ginger Kutsch)
> 6. Re: drinking dogs (Angie Matney)
> 7. winter coats (Julie J.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:40:51 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <jlcrane at alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fwd: you don't look blind and Born and raised in
> Connecticut
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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> Mardi,
>
> This message did come through earlier. I remember reading it. I'm not
> sure
>
> why you're not getting all the messages. Have you checked with your ISP
> to
> see if they have any ideas?
>
> Sorry I'm not much help.
> Julie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mardi Hadfield" <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:32 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Fwd: you don't look blind and Born and raised in
> Connecticut
>
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: you don't look blind and Born and raised in Connecticut
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> This post was sent on Nov. 28, but I guess it was not received so I am
>> sending it again
>>
>> Hi every one, Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving.Linda ,now that I
>> think
>> about it,you are right. I never met a blind person until I was 19. I
>> worked
>> as an x ray tech, and the man who ran the films through the developing
>> machine was blind.He was a cane user and his name was Ray. We became
>> friends. When I worked in another Hospital as an x ray tech. There was a
>> blind lady,her name was Helen, she also worked in the dark room.Also a
>> cane
>> user,I would help her out to the bus stop. Not one of the other employes
>> wanted to help her because she wanted to hold on to their arm. I thought
>> this was very odd as I did not mind her holding on to my arm. It was just
>> a
>> way to help her. I guess some people are just weird!I don't know,but
>> maybe
>> they thought they could " catch " her blindness? Both of these people
>> were
>> pretty normal looking to me. Be fore I ever met a blind person, I don't
>> think I thought about blind people at all. I have some residual vision,
>> but
>> it is not very helpful. I can see things if they are magnified and very
>> close,but every thing I see is doubled and blured and hazy. I have no
>> periferal vision. I am diagnosed with Cortical Vision Impairment, Macular
>> Degeneration,and Early Cateracts.I am light sensitive so when I am out
>> side
>> I use dark glasses,and keep my eyes closed.At night,I see lights and not
>> much more than that. Ted, I was born and raised in Stamford Ct.Left
>> there in 1983,to come to Tucson Az. I like the weather better here but
>> ......................................... Have a great day, Mardi and
>> Nala,retired, Wanagi,gdit,and Tokala,gd at home, and part time pet.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:23:39 -0500
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] skiing and guide dogs
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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> Is this for families or only adults?
> It might be a great family outing, though I can't tell if it is more of
> an adult gathering.
> Anybody know?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of MS S TILLETT
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:49 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] skiing and guide dogs
>
> Hi Marcia,
>
> You don't have to go with anyone, and they will asign you a guide.
> Occationally we have to share guides a bit but it has always worked out.
> This year we have more guides than VIPs signed up.
>
> I'm going Tyesday through Saturday this year, not the whole week, but I
> think the whole weeek is $560, but I would have to have someone look on
> the application.
>
> You are in NYC? It would be fun to have you come. It is always nice to
> have new people.
>
> Sue, and Wonder
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marsha
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] skiing and guide dogs
>
>
> What does something like this cost? Do you have to go with a
> mate/boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse?
> Thanks for the info!
> Marsha
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of MS S TILLETT
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:57 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] skiing and guide dogs
>
> I have been going to the Land of the Vikings regional ski for light
> program
> in Sherman Pa, and it is really a wonderful place and a lot of fun.
> They
> don't want the dogs out where folks are skiing but they do welcom dogs
> who
> are okay staying in the room while you are skiing.
>
> It is a very rustic lodge and the rooms are small. It has a really
> nice
> livingroom with a round fireplace with couches and chairs all around
> it. It
> is laidback and relaxed.
>
> This year we have more guides signed up than vips, so I thought I
> would
> write to urge some of you to come. It is the last week of January I
> think
> from Sunday the 25th to Sunday February 1st. You can fly, or take a
> bus to
> Binghamton New York, which is about 45 minutes away, and someone will
> pick
> you up. Some of us do a shorter version from Wednesday to Sunday and
> they
> will do pickups on Sunday and Wednesday.
>
> If we don't have snow we hike. It is so quiet and peaceful, the food
> is
> wonderful, and at night we play board and card games, and some of us
> bring
> instruments. My friend who comes as a guide, plays piano and
> accordian and
> folks like to sing around the piano. I decided to learn to knit this
> year
> so that I can sit by the fire and knit.
>
> Anyway, it is good fun, not clicky, and everyone wants to get to know
> everyone and is friendly. You can call me at 609-924-7489, or
> she-mail me
> at
> suetillett at verizon.net
>
> I hope one or more of you will join us.
>
> Sue, and Wonder
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Angie Matney
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] opinions of other blind people
>
>
> Hi Marsha,
>
> Yes, it does make sense. I know it can be hard to get past the guilt
> of
> retirement. My first dog retired and 9.5, and I had to deal with guilt
> from
> that, since, after all, some people's dogs work untill they're 11 oar
> so.
>
> Anyway...it's hard to move past that, but you can trust your own
> judgment.
> If you're just not sure, try to imagine what an instructor would say.
> And
> even if you happen to make a mistake at any point, it's not the place
> of
> your friends to tell you how to
> handle the dog. Putting a dog on tiedown or in a crate is not abuse.
>
> Best,
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:13:40 -0500, Marsha wrote:
>
> >Oh I know that SE would have told them that if the dog is working
> well,
> if
> >they are being fed and parked, and seem to be happy then whatever.
> It
> just
> >seems I have run into this much more here than any where else. I
> should
> make
> >up SE cards and hand them to a person when they try to do this to
> me.
>
> >But I guess as a good handler, I say good because I think I am very
> good
> >with my puppy, that when ever people say something to me it makes
> me feel
> >guilty. It makes me question what I am doing, how I am doing it,
> and so
> on.
> >I just do not want to be wrong, I am on my second guide, and the
> first
> was
> >retired, and yes there is a lot of guilt there. I just want to be
> doing
> the
> >best. So for me it is a fine line between being right knowing what
> I am
> >doing right is really right for me and then defending what is
> right. I do
> >not know if that makes any sense?
> >Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:08:37 -0500
> From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at localnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] drinking dogs
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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> When I was still sighted we had a blind student with dog at the college
> where I was teaching. At dorm parties the students would get her guide dog
> drunk, and her boy friend had to help her carry her dog back to her dorm
> room. When I heard of this, I thought it was very wrong of her fellow
> students to do this to her dog, and for her to allow it.
>
> When a sighted friend was a teenager her father would put down a half
> finished beer while doing farm chores, and find it empty when he came
> back.
> He accused her of taking it, but she was innocent. Finally they caught
> their
> horse picking the can up with his mouth, tilting his head back, and
> drinking
> the beer. Ed Meskys
>
>
> Edmund R. Meskys
> NIEKAS Publications
> National Federation of the Blind of N.H.
> Moultonboro Lions Club
> edmeskys at localnet.com
> 322 Whittier Hwy
> Moultonboro NH 03254-3627
> my credo:
> Clinton lied, nothing happened
> Bush lied, thousands died
> and over 3,000 permanently brain injured
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:18:45 -0500
> From: eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] skiing trip info
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID:
> <96774e320812040718w380337d0jc709cd630023cf18 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> What's the deadline for signing up? I'm job hunting at the moment and
> am not sure yet if I'll be employed.
> Thanks,
> Eliza
>
> On 12/3/08, MS S TILLETT <suetillett at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Marcia,
>>
>> You don't have to go with anyone, and they will asign you a guide.
>> Occationally we have to share guides a bit but it has always worked out.
>> This year we have more guides than VIPs signed up.
>>
>> I'm going Tyesday through Saturday this year, not the whole week, but I
>> think the whole weeek is $560, but I would have to have someone look on
> the
>> application.
>>
>> You are in NYC? It would be fun to have you come. It is always nice to
>> have new people.
>>
>> Sue, and Wonder
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Marsha
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] skiing and guide dogs
>>
>>
>> What does something like this cost? Do you have to go with a
>> mate/boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse?
>> Thanks for the info!
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of MS S TILLETT
>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:57 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] skiing and guide dogs
>>
>> I have been going to the Land of the Vikings regional ski for light
>> program
>> in Sherman Pa, and it is really a wonderful place and a lot of fun.
> They
>> don't want the dogs out where folks are skiing but they do welcom dogs
> who
>> are okay staying in the room while you are skiing.
>>
>> It is a very rustic lodge and the rooms are small. It has a really
>> nice
>> livingroom with a round fireplace with couches and chairs all around
>> it.
>> It
>> is laidback and relaxed.
>>
>> This year we have more guides signed up than vips, so I thought I would
>> write to urge some of you to come. It is the last week of January I
> think
>> from Sunday the 25th to Sunday February 1st. You can fly, or take a
>> bus
>> to
>> Binghamton New York, which is about 45 minutes away, and someone will
> pick
>> you up. Some of us do a shorter version from Wednesday to Sunday and
> they
>> will do pickups on Sunday and Wednesday.
>>
>> If we don't have snow we hike. It is so quiet and peaceful, the food
>> is
>> wonderful, and at night we play board and card games, and some of us
> bring
>> instruments. My friend who comes as a guide, plays piano and accordian
>> and
>> folks like to sing around the piano. I decided to learn to knit this
> year
>> so that I can sit by the fire and knit.
>>
>> Anyway, it is good fun, not clicky, and everyone wants to get to know
>> everyone and is friendly. You can call me at 609-924-7489, or she-mail
> me
>> at
>> suetillett at verizon.net
>>
>> I hope one or more of you will join us.
>>
>> Sue, and Wonder
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Angie Matney
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] opinions of other blind people
>>
>>
>> Hi Marsha,
>>
>> Yes, it does make sense. I know it can be hard to get past the guilt
> of
>> retirement. My first dog retired and 9.5, and I had to deal with guilt
>> from
>> that, since, after all, some people's dogs work untill they're 11 oar
> so.
>>
>> Anyway...it's hard to move past that, but you can trust your own
>> judgment.
>> If you're just not sure, try to imagine what an instructor would say.
> And
>> even if you happen to make a mistake at any point, it's not the place
>> of
>> your friends to tell you how to
>> handle the dog. Putting a dog on tiedown or in a crate is not abuse.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:13:40 -0500, Marsha wrote:
>>
>> >Oh I know that SE would have told them that if the dog is working
> well,
>> if
>> >they are being fed and parked, and seem to be happy then whatever.
>> It
>> just
>> >seems I have run into this much more here than any where else. I
> should
>> make
>> >up SE cards and hand them to a person when they try to do this to
>> me.
>>
>> >But I guess as a good handler, I say good because I think I am very
>> good
>> >with my puppy, that when ever people say something to me it makes me
>> feel
>> >guilty. It makes me question what I am doing, how I am doing it, and
> so
>> on.
>> >I just do not want to be wrong, I am on my second guide, and the
> first
>> was
>> >retired, and yes there is a lot of guilt there. I just want to be
> doing
>> the
>> >best. So for me it is a fine line between being right knowing what I
> am
>> >doing right is really right for me and then defending what is right.
> I
>> do
>> >not know if that makes any sense?
>> >Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:25:08 -0500
> From: "Ginger Kutsch" <gingerkutsch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [nagdu] On D.C.'s streets, blind injustice
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> On D.C.'s Streets, Blind Injustice
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/03/AR2008120303
> 752.html
> Jim Dickson, with his 3-year-old black Lab, Pearson, says he and others
> with
> guide dogs or wheelchairs often have trouble getting cabdrivers to stop
> for
> them in the District. (By John Kelly -- The Washington Post)
>
> By John Kelly
> Thursday, December 4, 2008; Page B03
> The Washington Post
> Jim Dickson had the feeling empty cabs were zipping past him without
> stopping as he stood at 17th and L streets NW the week before last, his
> hand
> raised for a taxi. He didn't know for sure, though. Jim is blind. Standing
> next to him was his 3-year-old black Lab guide dog, Pearson.
>
> I watched for a few minutes as taxis -- their rooftop lights lighted,
> their
> back seats vacant -- ignored Jim and Pearson, then I walked up and
> suggested
> he might have better luck at the Mayflower Hotel's cabstand.
>
> "This is not a unique experience to me," Jim said. "People with guide dogs
> and people with wheelchairs complain all the time about cabs refusing to
> take them."
>
> That seemed pretty cold -- refusing to stop for a disabled person? -- but
> then we got to the Mayflower. There were no cabs at that moment, but
> National Cab No. 64 soon pulled up and disgorged a passenger. The hotel
> doorman held the door for Jim and Pearson, but when the cabdriver saw
> them,
> he started shouting. The cab rolled forward a few inches, the door still
> open. Then the driver got out and started swearing at the doorman. After
> the
> door was shut, he got back behind the wheel and drove off.
>
> The doorman was as disgusted as I was. Jim took the next cab.
>
> A few days later, I spoke with Jim, who is vice president of government
> affairs for the American Association of People with Disabilities. Lots of
> drivers don't like dogs and won't stop, he said. "The only place it
> doesn't
> happen is up on Capitol Hill," said Jim, 62. "I usually get a Capitol
> policeman to flag the cab for me."
>
> Mario Bonds, a 21-year-old student from Bowie who travels with his black
> Lab, Sydney, said the same thing. He often needs a cab at the New
> Carrollton
> Metro station. "I've felt quite stupid standing there for a long time,
> when
> a regular sighted person says, 'There's plenty of cabs here. I don't know
> what these guys are doing.' "
>
> George Merriweather said it was so hard to get a cab for him and his
> standard poodle guide dog, Gambit, that he stopped coming into the
> District
> from Olney for doctor's appointments. "They're hard on blind people," said
> George, 61. "Especially if you've got a dog, you don't get in a cab."
>
> Why wouldn't a cabdriver stop for a blind person with a dog? Some might be
> concerned that dogs would make the vehicle dirty, though Jim makes Pearson
> sit on the floor and on wet days carries paper towels to wipe the seat.
> Some
> might be allergic, though Jim said that if so, they're supposed to have a
> doctor's letter on file. Jim and Mario said some drivers have told them
> it's
> against their religion to have a dog in the car. Could that be true?
>
> Some Muslims believe that dogs are unclean, said Abdullahi An-Na'im, a
> professor at Emory University who specializes in Islamic law, but this is
> more a cultural notion than a religious one. He said nothing in the Koran
> stipulates that dogs must be avoided. What's more, two Islamic tenets
> would
> override any reluctance to take a guide dog: the imperative of being
> helpful
> to someone in need, and what's known as darura, or necessity. If you're
> blind and need a dog, darura means that's okay. The same goes when you're
> a
> taxi driver who encounters blind passengers.
>
>
> Said the professor: "I don't think that's acceptable for a Muslim" not to
> take a service animal in his cab.
>
> The Big Apple solved this problem nine years ago with an awareness
> campaign
> and an undercover sting operation, said Allan Fromberg of New York's Taxi
> and Limousine Commission. Plainclothes officers and guide dogs were used
> to
> catch drivers who wouldn't stop.
>
> tent that you post.
>
> Who's Blogging? Links to this article
> When I called Leon Swain, chairman of the D.C. Taxicab Commission, and
> told
> him what I'd heard from visually impaired people, he was furious. "That's
> something that I have zero tolerance on," he said. "If you have a bona
> fide
> service animal, you need to be transported to the location." He invited
> Jim
> to file a complaint and has set up a meeting between cab company owners,
> the
> Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind and other local disability rights
> groups.
>
> I asked the owner of National Cab Co., Balwinder Singh, to look into what
> I
> saw. He said the driver of No. 64 told him that he already had a passenger
> in his cab (an invisible one, I guess). "It's hard to prove for me," Singh
> said. "I'm telling you what he told me." He said licensed drivers "should
> be
> picking up whoever comes next" -- blind people and their dogs included.
>
> Anyone can see that -- and every time I take a cab in the future I'll be
> reminding the driver of that fact.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:58:33 -0500
> From: "Angie Matney" <leadinglabbie at mpmail.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] drinking dogs
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <mailman.92.1228413605.22281.nagdu_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
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>
> People have asked if I have ever given my dogs anything alcoholic to
> drink.
> I tell them that I don't want the dog to get arrested for gUI. Pretty
> silly,
> I know.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:12:26 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <jlcrane at alltel.net>
> Subject: [nagdu] winter coats
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <000f01c95633$7b05ac60$01fea8c0 at your07cc84feb2>
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> I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas where I can get a winter coat that
> will fit over the guide harness?
>
> I've got an insulated coat that has to be worn under the harness, but that
> doesn't work out so well. the harness doesn't fit as well. also I have
> to
> adjust the size every time I change from coat to no coat. It's going to be
> a
> major pain to have to take off the harness, the coat and then back on with
> the harness after changing the size if we would need to go from outside to
> inside.
>
> I did make a sweater that will fit over the harness, but it is very bulky,
> catches on my pantleg and isn't very effective when it's windy.
>
> I'm thinking of altering the first coat so it can be worn over the
> harness,
> but I've never done something like that before. I'd be interested in any
> sewing tips anyone might be able to offer. I don't want to ruin the coat.
>
> Or is there some easier solution that I'm missing entirely? and no one
> had
> better say move to a warmer climate! *smile*
>
>
> Thanks much!
> Julie
>
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