[nagdu] Nfb centers and guide dogs

Mon Nov 3 21:32:08 UTC 2008

This is hilerious. 
You go online to get what sound like basic computer skills, skills that
are needed to go online in the first place. 
Kind of like a sign saying "If you can't read, and wish to learn how,
call this number". 
As for the guide dogs, no guide dogs at NFB centers, both Dan, David,
and Meghan have valid points. 
Dan's information is out of date, though David did not provide more
current info. 
And, Meghan is right, someone wouldn't go to an NFB center to get
segmented training. So, this fight results in a tie for those keeping
score at home. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of David Andrews
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:45 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nfb centers and guide dogs

If you just want some computer training, you wouldn't go to a center
program anyway.  There is on-line training at places like the access
technology institute, and the Carroll Center that might be more
appropriate.

Dave

At 01:19 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
>Dear Hope,
>
>I absolutely agree. I don't want to start a debate either, but I have 
>the same issue about leaving my guide, Betty-Jo home that much.
>I would also love to see a more personalized approach to the centers. 
>I, for example, would love to have an intensive course in excell, power

>point, internet  and other computer tools to level the playing field a 
>bit more. Many of the survey tools,social sites, and search engines I 
>have been shown only using mouse commands. I am not of the current 
>generation who seem to find much of this second nature, and I have been

>required to take a course at the grad level utilizing these and other 
>computer stuff. It would make the remainder of my education, as well as

>daily life, much more efficient. Furthermore, I simply can't find 9 
>months to set aside for the full "package" at the centers. It would be 
>great to hav it available in a seminar format.
>
>Sincerely,
>Diane, and Betty-jo
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos" 
><hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
><nagdu at nfbnet.org>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nfb centers and guide dogs
>
>
>>That's what concerns me.  I don't think I'm going to go to one.  Sigh.

>>I just can't not work my guide dog.  I think, as do many people on 
>>this list, that white cane skills are a good thing to have especially 
>>when the dog is unable to work.  I sometimes leave my guide ajt home 
>>and use my cane just so I can get more cane skills, but I don't think 
>>I could work her so little at the centers.  After all, most centers 
>>have 9 month long programs.  I think it would seriously jeopardize the

>>dog's training, because it's just not working enough.  I don't want to

>>start a debate, I was just culrious about the policy.  Shy smile.  I 
>>would really like to see the centers have programs that the student 
>>could choose to take certain classes.  For example, I'd want to take 
>>home management and cooking and perhaps wood shop.  THAT way the 
>>program can be taylored to the individual ptherson.
>>Just my opinion.
>>Take care all!
>>Hope and Beignet
>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>>>To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>Date sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:56:34 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nfb centers and guide dogs
>>
>>>As far as I'm concerned, the NFB center attitude on the use of
>>guide dogs
>>>during training is ridiculous.
>>
>>>J.M.O.
>>
>>>Dan Weiner
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On Behalf
>>>Of Jennie Facer
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:58 AM
>>>To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>Users'
>>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nfb centers and guide dogs
>>
>>>Hi Hope,
>>
>>>I am not going to say that the centers are very guide dog
>>friendly, but they
>>>will let you take them.  I think you have to alternate classes
>>some with
>>>your dog and some with your cane.  Yes you do need to take white
>>cane
>>>classes, because it never hurts to have your cane skills up to
>>par just in
>>>case there is a problem and you can't work your dog.
>>
>>>HTH
>>
>>>Jenn
>>
>>>TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On Behalf
>>>Of Hope Paulos
>>>Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:39 PM
>>>To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>Subject: [nagdu] Nfb centers and guide dogs
>>
>>>Hi all.  I have a friend who is attending an Nfb center.  He
>>doesn't have a
>>>guide dog though.  I'm curious, how tollerant are the  centers
>>about
>>>allowing students to bring their guide dogs to the centers and to
>>classes?
>>>Also, if you're already well-traveled, (using a guide dog), is it
>>required
>>>that you take white cane instruction?
>>>I'm just curious.
>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>Hope and Beignet
>>
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