[nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

Fri Nov 14 14:44:37 UTC 2008

Have someone accompany you sometimes and get an ID on the dogs. Then, call 
the animal shelter to have them picked up for violating the leash laws. It's 
as simple as that.

God's Blessings,
Danie

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

> Hi, guys,
>
> Dan W. with His royal goofiness, Carter, and retired Evan.
> This discussion brings up a question.
> What if anything can we do about the irresponsible people whose dogs run
> loose and jump on or otherwise cause problems to our guides when we pass?
> In my neighborhood,   there are several houses I pass whose owners seem to
> either be out with their dogs off leash (the dogs that is) or where the
> owners let there dogs loose in their front yard.
> At one place, the loose dog runs out at Carter and I believe, has jumped 
> on
> him.
> This is not only dangerous for me and my dog, but dangerous for their dogs
> as they sometimes run out on to the road or to cross the street to get to
> us.
>
> So, when I talk to the neighbors who call their dogs and explain I never 
> get
> any response that would indicate mending their ways.
>
> So, anything I can do or anything you guys have done other than avoiding 
> the
> area, or, as I'm tempted to do, euthanize the humans responsible for these
> dogs--grin.
> Notice I said the humans will be put down, not the dogs--grin.
>
> I'm wringing my hands in frustration because I feel that one of these days
> something serious will happen and Carter is my responsibility and don't 
> want
> him hurt in any way.
>
>
> Dan W. and the happy hounds
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Lora and Myrtle
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:31 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>
> It is good that we are having this topic because I have this problem with 
> my
> leader dog myrtle barking and growling at other dogs.
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M. <
> Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you.
>> I read it as Cheryll having the problem but that was just my take on
>> the note.
>> Either way, this has been a good discussion, and I've enjoyed the topic.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Charlene Ota
>>  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:10 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>>
>> Rebecca, I guess that comment was to address the possibility that
>> Cheryl might be wondering why someone retired their dog and she might
>> have hearad that it was due to barking and growling but didn't get any
>> details.
>> Sometimes we don't get the whole story and it might sound strange that
>> a dog is retired because of growling and barking. So we just don't
>> always have the whole story.  That's what I meant by that.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M.
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:11 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>>
>> Charleen wrote;
>> There's always that special situation that sounds so strange to the
>> rest of us, but when you look at it, sometimes it can't be helped.
>> Rebecca writes; Such as?
>> Can you provide some additional detail into the statement?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Charlene Ota
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:36 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>>
>> My dog barks a little when someone comes in our yard or to the door
>> but that's about it.  Heavens!  I sure wouldn't retire the boy for
>> that for goodness sake!  (smile!)  Oh, and once at our local NFB
>> convention, in a little movie thing some dog barked and he did that
>> half bark thing maybe you call it a mumble/bark or something and I
>> told him to be quiet but that was it.  No big deal!
>>
>> On a more serious side of it, though, I think it is kind od
>> frustrating when dogs bark out in public, you know, the full on
>> barking at other dogs in restaurants and such.  I wish people would at
>> least attempt to control such behavior and I've seen some who do and
>> some who don't. I guess if it really gout out of hand and couldn't be
>> stopped it might be reason for a person to retire the dog because it
>> isn't good behavior out in public. It's something that would surely
>> have to be looked at in context. There's always that special situation
>> that sounds so strange to the rest of us, but when you look at it,
> sometimes it can't be helped.
>>
>> Charlene
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of craig.borne at dot.gov
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:41 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>>
>> Doesn't it matter in what situation the dog growls or barks?  Ollie
>> may growl or bark at another dog, if that other dog is off leash and
>> in Ollie's face.  Under that set of circumstances, I can't say I blame
> him.
>>
>> Ollie is also in the habit of barking when our door bell rings or
>> someone knocks at our door (not when the same is done when we are
>> visiting others at their home).  At first, I tried to curb this
>> behavior, but then I came to the conclusion that I actually like him
>> alerting me to when someone is at the door.
>>
>> Barking and growling at someone or something on the other side of the
>> street or on leash is not a very good trait in a guide dog, but the
>> alternatives described above frankly do not bother me, regardless of
>> whether or not the dog school agrees.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> Craig Borne
>> NHTSA/DOT
>> (202) 493-0627
>> craig.borne at dot.gov
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:28 AM
>> To: nagdu
>> Cc: New York Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>>
>> I am not a liberty to mention names or dogs or schools.
>>
>> But there has been some talk and I would like to ask.
>>
>> hypothetically speaking, if a dog growls or barks, should the school
>> tell you to retire your dog, I mean I own maxx I had that option but
>> lets say you don't own your dog out right, and the dog is a good
>> worker other than the little growls and barking.  Is that any reason
>> to retire a dog.
>>
>> Thank you.\
>>
>> Cheryl Echevarria
>> Treasurer
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> Greater Long Island Chapter
>>
>>
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