[nagdu] Pet tags on the beach

Mon Aug 3 00:26:18 UTC 2009

Hi Marion,

I think that in most places, the vet  issues you a rabies tag, and the
municipality issues you a separate license tag.

Angie

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion & Martin
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:13 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach

Cindy,
    In Hillsborough County (Tampa, Florida) where I live, licensing and 
rabies tags are one in the same. I guess I assumed that this was so 
everywhere. Can you tell me what the difference is between licensing and 
rabies tags where you live?

Fraternally,
Marion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at qwest.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach

> Thanks for the information. I have never licensed my dogs; I have had 
> rabby
> tags to show they were inoculated.
>
> Cindy Lou
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>
>
> Cindy & Julie,
>    Let me take these questions separately. As for the licensing
> requirement, such a requirement is in place to ensure that animals are 
> kept
> up-to-date on their rabies vaccinations,. All dog owners  are required to
> maintain  immunity to this disease. The license is the authority's means
> whereby they can verify this. The fee for this, however, is waived for
> service animal users, as it can be considered a tax.
>    As for the morals or ethics of a special tag, service dogs are allowed
> access to the beach or any other place the general public is invited. My
> mother lives two blocks from the Gulf of Mexico. If I were to walk to the
> beach - which I generally do - working my dog and, once I get there, take 
> it
> out of harness and let it be just a dog, it is still a service animal and 
> no
> special tags or restrictions, over and above the leash laws, can be 
> required
> of me. Even if I were to use my cane and heel my dog, it is still a 
> service
> animal under the law. JMHO!
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at qwest.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>
>
>> I'm not sure it is a question of morals, ethics, or anything else like
>> that
>> if you are fulfilling your responsibilities as a guide user. I guess I
>> really didn't know you have to do that. Are you supposed to license the
>> guide in a community where you live, for I've not done that either. He
>> never
>> runs free and is microchipped. I have actually wondered about this.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>
>>
>> I agree that pet tags are not required even if the dog is out of harness.
>> However it seems to me an issue of morals.  If you are utilizing pet
>> services and amenities then you should fulfill the pet requirements.  It
>> seems like taking advantage to me otherwise.  But if all Wayne intends is
>> to
>> have his dog lie beside him out of harness or something similar to what a
>> guide would do if not working at that precise moment, then I'd say that's
>> a
>> no pet tags situation.
>>
>> JMHO
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>
>>
>>> Julie,
>>>    I disagree with the need for any sort of tags, even if out of harness
>>> "enjoying the beach". Whether in harness or not, the dog is still a
>>> service animal under the law and no further restrictions or requirements
>>> can be imposed. As for the Credentials" cited by Cindy Lou and the
>>> education by Mike Hingson, take the time to educate, if you wish, but
>>> give
>>> them a sound education by not presenting credentials. Otherwise, they 
>>> may
>>> feel as if they have the right to require them and they do not! HTH!
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree with Michael.  she's not a pet and not subject to pet
>>>>restrictions. However if you are planning to let her out of harness and
>>>>enjoy the beach like the pet dogs, then I'd say tags are in order.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun!
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking I would take her tomorrow evening, be sure I have hold of
>>>>> her,
>>>>> haveall of the rest of her credentials available, and then assure any
>>>>> officials who question her being there that  you will, indeed, go get
>>>>> the
>>>>> appropriate tags on Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings. Sorry for the short notice. I talked with my parents
>>>>> earlier who are already in Florida. I'm leaving tomorrow morning. They
>>>>> mentioned that pets need to get tags from a specific office in order
>>>>> to go on the beach. I know that guide dogs arent' pets, but does
>>>>> anyone know if I need to worry about this with my guide, or will the
>>>>> harness be enough to convince any officials on the beach? We talked
>>>>> about taking my dog with us to the beach perhaps tomorrow evening to
>>>>> see how she reacts and then decide if we need to do anything with her
>>>>> the rest of the week. However, since the "tag office" for lack of a
>>>>> better phrase isn't open till Monday morning, if we do need tags then
>>>>> we wouldn't be able to take her tomorrow. She has a microchip ID on
>>>>> her collar that we got last fall when in training, and I've of course
>>>>> got an ID card for her proving that she's a guide dog. Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> My blog:
>>>>> http://wayneism.blogspot.com
>>>>> My websites:
>>>>> www.wayneism.com
>>>>> www.whitecaneday.org
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