[nagdu] State campaign targets dogs in grocery stores

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State campaign targets dogs in grocery stores

08:34 PM PDT on Monday, August 17, 2009

 

By ERIC ADAMS, Kgw.com Staff 

 

PORTLAND, Ore. -- The Oregon Department of Agriculture announced a
public awareness campaign to remind Oregonians that dogs aren't welcome
in grocery stores

unless they're providing a service to the disabled.  

 

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A guide dog assists a disabled person.

 

It's against state and federal law for live animals to enter
establishments selling or preparing food, said Vance Bybee, a food
inspector specialist for

the state, unless the animal falls under a specific exemption of the 

U.S. Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. 

 

The ADA defines a service animal as "any guide dog, signal dog or other
animal individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with
a disability."

   

 

Who should be fined when dogs illegally enter grocery stores?

 

  Dog's owner

 

  Grocery store owner

 

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"Of all the complaints we receive ... pets in a grocery store --
especially dogs -- is by far our number one issue," said Vance Bybee in
a press release on

the 

DOA website

. "We've received complaints about dogs urinating in the aisle of a
grocery store, jumping up and licking packages of meat, or sniffing food
items on the

shelf." 

 

Bybee notes that some Oregonians may bring along their pet for reasons
like "emotional stability" or "comfort," neither of which meets the
state or federal

threshold for a service animal, he says. 

 

But Agriculture's announcement of the campaign admits it won't be so
easy to enforce the law. Citations will be issued to businesses in
violation, not animal

owners, according to the DOA website. 

 

The campaign uses dog-shaped posters that will provide definitions of
service animal and "tips" for consumers who see pets inside stores. 

 

Pamphlets will also be distributed to business owners to help them "know
what to ask" and "when to ask" when an animal enters a store. 

 

Among the tips: Customers need to be able to identify the service the
animal performs that they can't do themselves. 

 

"You cannot ask a person to identify their disability, but you can ask
what the animal has been trained to do," said Bybee. 

 

Shoppers are asked to help, too, by pointing out scofflaws to
management. The state recommends that confrontations with animal owners
be avoided. 

 

Farmer's markets were not mentioned in the press release. 

 

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Cougr

 3 hours ago wrote: 

 

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Our elected officals are willing to divert huge legislative expenses to
put this lame issue into law to address such scenarios as I'm use to
seeing where

a homeless person with a pet, or a medically uninsured person with a
pet, and a fatherless children with a pet may take it into a store! How
will our politicians

feel having socked these individuals with a stiff fine they're unable to
pay. Will they find another chasm in their psyche to stuff further
feelings of

guilt and remorse for their ignorance and ineptitude!?

 

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I Want My Country Back

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Um... and what do the vast majority of people who have dogs in their
family do in their own homes? Are the dogs banned from the kitchen? Are
there gates

keeping the dogs from entering the kitchen or dining room? 

 

No. At home we allow our cats and dogs to wander the house freely. How
many people get sick at home because the dogs and/or cats bring in
human-infectious

diseases? 

 

If the issue is about dogs soiling the floors in grocery stores, then I
agree there needs to be some common sense on the subject: the people
with the dog

need to clean it up and also notify the store personnel. However, I
don't think it needs to go as far as an outright ban on all. 

 

Go to Europe. You will see dogs in restaurants and grocery stores in
many, many of the European countries. They don't have any bans on this
and they have

no more rampant disease than we have. You know what they do have?
Well-trained dogs. The people have their dogs do their business outside
before going

into the restaurant. They have their dogs lay down on the floor by the
table. The dogs are trained to be quiet. They have manners and they
follow them.

If a dog starts raising a fuss, guess what...? They Take The Dog
Outside. Go figure! They actually train their dogs and then they take
responsibility for

their actions, even if it (gasp!) means they have to miss out on
something they want.

 

What a concept, eh?

 

So, what's our problem here? Why are we so over-the-top anal-retentive?

 

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JakeSteele

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No dogs other than ADA defined service animal should be allowed in
grocery stores or anywhere that there is food sold for human
consumption. New Seasons

in Sellwood has a nice little place for dogs to wait for their owners to
shop that is safe, clean and most importantly...outside the store.

 

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Wolfmoldy

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Two things of note if you actually READ the article:

 

1: Bybee notes that some Oregonians may bring along their pet for
reasons like "emotional stability" or "comfort," neither of which meets
the state or

federal threshold for a service animal, he says. 

 

Meaning if you say the Dog is for "Depression", not going to work. Even
the ADA says that "emotional stability" or "comfort," dog are NOT
covered by them.

 

2: Among the tips: Customers need to be able to identify the service the
animal performs that they can't do themselves.

 

"You cannot ask a person to identify their disability, but you can ask
what the animal has been trained to do," said Bybee. 

 

Meaning if you can't PROVE what you dog can do that YOU can't, You're
out. Bye-bye!

 

So it comes down to this: If you dog can do something YOU can't and is
TRAINED PROFESSIONALLY to do it, then you can bring you dog. Be prepared
to PROVE

it though. 

 

If not, LEAVE YOU DOG HOME!

 

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Freedomm1267

 3 hours ago wrote: 

 

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I don't want your filthy mangy pets in my yard or house either.

 

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Obi Wan

 3 hours ago wrote: 

 

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Dogs in stores is one of my biggest pet peeves, and I have complained at
more than one grocery store about it. The Washington Square security
guards look

the other way, when I report a pet in the mall, even though the law is
posted at all entrances. These pet owners are breaking the law, and
should be cited.

 

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Ace28

 3 hours ago wrote: 

 

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I am a dog owner - and I often run with him; sometimes we even stop at a
neighborhood merchant. But my dog gets tied up on the nearest pole. He
doesn't

have money to spend in the store; what business does he have going in?

 

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sweetlou

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Also a dog lover, but whenever I'm in a coffee shop and someone totes
their dog in, if the staff don't ask the person to take it outside, I
leave. Actually,

first I tell them why - because I don't want dog dander in my coffee -
and then I leave. And I don't come back. Especially in this economy,
consumers hold

all the cards. We have a right to expect good service, a fair deal and
have the minimum health laws followed. 

 

Dogs don't belong in grocery stores or restaurants. Yes, kids can be
filthy, but so can adults and we can't ban unhygienic adults or kids
from businesses.

We can, however, ban dogs. It's a no brainer. 

 

Dog owners, if you really want to make a "stink," YOU can choose not to
shop at establishments that, you know, up hold the law.

 

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My niece has a restaurant in another Oregon city. She doesn't hesitate
to ask if a dog is a service dog and to order them off the premises if
they are not.

Her basis is a county board of health directive.

She has been sued twice in 10 years. On both occasions she countersued
for 10 times the original amount. She won both cases (the dogs in
question were

not service animals), and actually collected both!

 

Paris Hilton was asked to leave a trendy LA restaurant because of her
dog. Everyone knows it isn't a service animal (because she has said so),
but no one

had the guts to toss her before now.

 

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finally had enough

 4 hours ago wrote: 

 

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Dogs are fine but there are boundaries when it comes to respect and
consideration for others:

 

1) If you need to bring your dog to the grocery store for emotional
support, you need to grow up.

 

2) If you tie your dog up outside Starbucks or other such places, please
don't just leave it there barking non-stop while you get your coffee.

 

Many dogs/owners are fantastic, but it's the ones that display that
disrespectful sense of "WHAT I WANT to do matters more than any common
courtesy toward

other people" that really ticks me off.

 

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