[nagdu] Service Animals in Health Care Failities

Mon Aug 31 09:53:04 UTC 2009

Nicole,
    I can understand why you would not bring the dog in a hyperbaric chamber 
but not sure why not in an MRI room. Could you share more about this?

Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Service Animals in Health Care Failities


> To answer your question, an MRI room and a hyper baric  chamber.  No, it 
> is
> not safe for the dog to go in a hyperbaric chamber.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:24 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Service Animals in Health Care Failities
>
> Nicole,
>    Your message raises another question for me. What is the type of area 
> at
> your doctor's office in which you are restricted from taking your dog? I
> feel it is important for everyone to know that, according to the Centers 
> for
> Disease Control's guidance on this, there are very few areas in which a
> service animal "poses a direct threat that cannot be mitigated by a
> modification of policies, practices, and procedures". These places are 
> those
> in which everyone must take "universal precautions, i.e., wear gloves,
> gowns, & masks. It is not reasonable to expect a service animal to undergo
> such precautions. The entire document is attached to this message.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>
>
>> For those times that Lexia is out of the harness, but I still need people
>> to
>> know that she is a guide dog, she has a vest that I bought and sewed two
>> patches on; I don't remember what the patches say.  .  An example of a
>> time
>> that I would use it is I take her to the doctor with me and have to leave
>> her with someone because she can not go into a certain area.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Julie J
>> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:04 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>>
>> Marion,
>>
>> *let's consider our stays in hotels. During convention, I always give my
>> dog
>> a day off in the middle of the convention. However, our policy requires 
>> us
>> to not leave our dog unattended in the rooms. Therefore, I allow my dog 
>> to
>> accompany me out of harness. From your perspective, would this be
>> unethical?
>>
>> *
>> For me this is not something I would do.  When I went to convention with
>> Belle I did give her time off, but I did have her harness on while I used
>> my
>> cane and took her along on leash.
>>
>> *suppose I want to relieve my
>> dog. Should I be required to harness my dog to take her out if I do not
>> wish
>> to work her? * Again for me it would depend on where I was, how far it 
>> was
>> to the place to relieve her and what I would have to go through to get
>> there.  At a large, no pets hotel, with a long way to go to get outside,
>> yes
>> I would probably put the harness on whether or not I was working her or
>> using my cane.
>>
>> *And, if while I am out, I decide to stop into the restaurant to get a
>> couple of cups of coffee to take back to my room for merry and me, should
>> I
>> be restricted from entering into the restaurant if my dog is not in
>> harness?
>> * Restricted, I don't know.  Again I would not be comfortable taking my
>> guide dog into a restaurant out of harness.
>> *Does my dog pose any greater threat to those in the restaurant if she is
>> not in harness?* No, not at all.  But I don't think that is the issue.
>>
>> *    While I am at work and the dog is lying under my desk, should I be
>> required to keep my dog in harness to satisfy some ethical consideration?
>> *
>> no.  That is your space.
>>
>> *Some schools and even more users train their dogs to guide on leash
>> without
>> the harness.  Again, if I am at work and wish to get a drink or step
>> outside
>> for some fresh air, should I be required to put the harness on my dog?*
>> Required? no, I don't think so, but again I think I would put the harness
>> on
>> to do these things.  I also teach my dogs to leash guide, but even if I 
>> am
>> using leash guiding in a public situation, I still have the dog in
>> harness.
>>
>> I don't think it's an easy distinction to make, when to put on the 
>> harness
>> and when not to.  I think Ann Edie said it all better than I could ever
>> explain in her post from last week or the week before.  I don't think 
>> that
>> we should be required to have our dogs in harness in particular
>> situations.
>> I do think we need to make every effort to make sure that the public 
>> knows
>> that our guide dogs are guide dogs.  I think this is best done by having
>> them wear their harnesses.  Incidentally I also think that other types of
>> service dogs should wear a vest or other identifying equipment, not
>> because
>> it is required, but because it is an easy way to identify them as service
>> dogs.   It's like a name tag.  Sure people can do a job without a name
>> tag,
>> but doesn't it make things easier for the public when you can be easily
>> identified?
>>
>> I definitely don't think we need more rules about when or where or how to
>> handle our guide dogs, but at the same time I think we need to do
>> everything
>> in our power to help the public understand what is what so that no one
>> feels
>> that more rules are in order.
>>
>> Of course this is JMHO
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
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