[nagdu] The new GDB

[KAYE KIPP]

The class I was in did solo routes.  In fact, one day, on the weekend, we 
got to go without the instructors even being there.  One of the kennel staff 
dropped us off at the lounge and we took off for a couple of hours.  That 
was fun.

Kaye
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The new GDB


> Hi Kaye,
>
> I remember you from another list. I'm glad your new girl is working out so 
> well.
>
> I, too, am a former GDB grad. I never did the two-week training, but I did 
> get my first dog from there.
>
> The clicker-training stuff is exciting. I really want to do more of that 
> with Yani.
>
> I did hear one thing about the new GDB classes that concerned me. I heard 
> from someone else who went to GDB recently that no one in this person's 
> class had the chance to do a solo route. Was it the same for your class, 
> or did you all have opportunities for solos?
>
> Best, and good to see you on here.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "KAYE KIPP" <kkipp123 at msn.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The new GDB
>
>
>> Yes, the training was very different.  There's a real emphasis on food 
>> rewards, which I found hard to get used to, but at least with Marjorie, 
>> it works.  We also worked with the clicker.  It does work. I 
>> clicker-trained Marjorie to find a bus pole and she'll never pass that 
>> pole up without at least showing it to me.  And it didn't take very long.
>>
>> There was still plenty of waiting around, but since I've been there, the 
>> training has changed.  The training is only for two weeks, even for 
>> first-timers, at least in Boring.  I would think there wouldn't be so 
>> much waiting around now because the training would have to be more 
>> intense.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:57 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] The new GDB
>>
>>
>>> Kaye, you're just the sort of person I've been wanting to talk to, 
>>> someone
>>> who's been to GDB recently, and had GDB dogs before (as have I).
>>> I've been reading a bit about GDB's new approach--less waiting around
>>> during training, and using clicker training.
>>> Did you find your recent class to be significantly different from 
>>> previous
>>> classes?  Do you use different methods to control or correct your dog 
>>> than
>>> you did before?  I realize it's very hard to compare dogs.  My Echo was
>>> very different from my Amba, even though they were both black labs from
>>> GDB, and trained with the same methods.  But a correction that would 
>>> turn
>>> Echo into a quivering jello would barely have gotten Amba's attention.
>>> Also, I went through GDB's 2-week retrain class 4 different times, and
>>> there was still plenty of waiting around, though not nearly as much as 
>>> for
>>> the first-timers.  On the other hand, it seemed like my dogs were just
>>> getting to the testing stage of things when I was getting ready to go
>>> home, and I needed someone out on follow-up in a month or two to help me
>>> polish up the rough edges.
>>> Anyway, I'd be real interested to hear your thoughts about your recent
>>> training, and if it was really different from before.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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