[nagdu] Blind clicker training methods /Shaman was good

Sat Dec 12 00:15:18 UTC 2009

David,
A law about how you can board your service animal?????  Maybe the law should 
require the bus drivers to make sure nobody is doing anything to a service 
animal while the person boards the bus.

When a dog is stretched out on a long leash while a person in a wheelchair 
boards, it's impossible to have control over the dog - or the people 
petting, feeding the dog.  You guys should change that law!

Linda and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Baker" <david at bakerinet.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind clicker training methods /Shaman was good

> Rule in Atlanta is that service animals must board first and exit first.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of
> Linda Gwizdak
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:00 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind clicker training methods /Shaman was good
>
> Hi Mardi,
> People totally stopping petting and distracting our dogs will NEVER 
> happen!
> It would be nice, though!  So, we need to just treat the public as we 
> would
> any other distraction we have no control over.
>
> Can you put shaman's front end on your lap while using the bus lift?  I 
> know
> that Canine Companions for Independence teaches that.  The back end and 
> feet
> of the dog is kind of between your legs and wheelchair foot rests. The dog
> doesn't take up any more room on the lift than your chair does. That way,
> you don't have to make a long leash and board him first - where people can
> take advantage of the situation and pet the dog. And you are too far away
> from the dog to have control over him. Maybe you have already tried 
> this...
> Just a thought (grin!).
>
> Happy Holidays to you.
>
> Linda and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mardi Hadfield" <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:08 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Blind clicker training methods /Shaman was good
>
>
>> Hi every one, When I use clicker training for Shaman or the rescue dogs,I
>> found using a halti on the dogs ,helped me to feel when the dogs head was
>> turned towards me. I would then turn my head towards them . They would
>> then
>> think I was making eye contact with them at the same time they were 
>> making
>> eye contact with me.I find that with the halti, I can feel the head
>> turning
>> and also in which direction it turns, because the leash is attached to 
>> the
>> head and not the collar at the neck. I also used targeting at times. I
>> went
>> to the bank on the 3rd of December and The bus I got had a ramp instead 
>> of
>> a
>> lift. Shaman and I went up the ramp together and no one bothered the dog.
>> Shaman did not get distracted because no one petted him. He did his work
>> flawlessly. Some days I think he is never going to learn and the next day
>> he
>> does it perfectly. I really enjoyed going out  and I got a lot
>> accomplished
>> that day. Shaman was so good.I think if people would leave him alone all
>> the
>> time, he would never need to be corrected, and he would do his job with
>> out
>> any problems. When I have to correct him more than once, he starts to
>> ignore
>> the corrections and things go from bad to worse. Even with the clicker, 
>> if
>> some one has distracted him, he ignores the clicker and being he is not
>> really food motivated, he will also ignore the treat. Once he is
>> distracted,
>> it takes him some time to get over it. It is mostly people that do the
>> distracting, but some times he gets distracted by other dogs. I had him
>> pretty much over the dog distractions until the guy down the street
>> started
>> walking his 2 Pit Bulls by my house and encouraged them to fight with my
>> dogs through the fence. Now Shaman growls at large dogs. I have to hold
>> him
>> tight and keep telling him to leave it. I hope I can correct this
>> behaviour
>> as I never know when I might encounter another dog on the bus. So far I
>> have
>> been lucky and there has not been any other dogs on the bus at the same
>> time
>> as us. Any one have any ideas on this one? Nala always ignored people and
>> other dogs. I almost never had to correct her for any thing. Have a great
>> day,  Mardi and Shaman, and Nala,retired.
>>
>> -- 
>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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