[nagdu] owner training hours was GDUI Survey

[Julie J.]

Tami,

I'm aiming for 100 hours of in harness training.  I do work on obedience, 
distractions, socialization etc. out of harness but I am not counting that 
time toward the completion of his training.  I only count the actual time he 
is in harness and on duty.  I do count the time that he is in harness but 
not actually guiding i.e. waiting in line, sitting next to me, lying under a 
chair or table etc.

This is the very high end of the scale and I really have no idea what the 
various programs are counting as training hours.  As previously mentioned 
they could be counting travel time.  I don't count travel time unless he is 
in harness and on duty.

I chose this number because I am obsessed with making sure that he is 
prepared to be a guide dog in the most thorough way.  I also keep training 
records, which are getting sketchy lately.  I really need to keep better 
notes! *smile*  I have also very recently found a private trainer to help me 
beginning in late April.  Monty is maturing and settling down.  things are 
really coming together for us this past week.  It is very exciting!

Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDUI Survey


> Just out of curiosity, what is your target for the number of hours?  And 
> how
> do you, as an owner-trainer define traning time?  /smile/  I will admit 
> that
> my own perception of how much time I have spent "training" varies hugely
> according to how I'm thinking of "training" at the time, as well as how 
> I'm
> feeling about the training.  There have been late summer evenings when I 
> was
> sure it was 24/7, since I seemed to be training in my sleep.  /smile/  Oh,
> how I miss those days...  NOT!  /grin/
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J.
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:18 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDUI Survey
>
> Maybe that could be part of it, but I don't think it accounts for the 
> whole
> margain.  The low end is 20 hours and the high end is over 100.  If I'm
> remembering correctly.  Even adding in travel time there's no way the 
> actual
>
> training time could be close to the same.
>
> I think that perhaps defining exactly what is meant by training time would
> help get more accurate numbers, it is not going to be 100%.  that is the
> problem with surveys.  You are relying on self reporting and that is 
> always
> altered somewhat with the individuals perceptions.
>
> I did appreciate the numbers because it gave me a much more defined target
> of training hours that I am going to complete with Monty.
>
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <leadinglabbie at mpmail.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDUI Survey
>
>
>> Julie said:
>>
>>>The thing I found the most interesting from that
>>>survey was the number of hours that the various programs spend actually
>>>training the dog.  I thought it was all pretty much the same, but I was
>>>terribly wrong.
>>
>> Actually, this is one of the questions I have. I wonder if "hours" was
>> defined for the survey participants. Some respondants might have counted
>> travel time, etc. Without evidence to the contrary, I'm not sure I 
>> believe
>
>> the actual training of the dogs is
>> as divergent as the survey implies.
>>
>> thoughts?
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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