[nagdu] What would you have done? An odd access issue

Marion & Martin swampfox1833 at verizon.net
Sat Feb 28 22:25:56 UTC 2009


Dan and Listers,
    I must say that, when it comes to access issues, the Hillsborough County 
Sherrif's Office has done an excellent job training their officers. We have 
established a great relationship with them. I will also admit, though, that 
there has been a change in administration over the past few years, so I'm 
not sure what would happen today. Several high profile court cases in 
Hillsborough County has helped raise awareness among the public, so we 
haven't had the need to test law enforcement's response. we'll let you know 
the next time we need them how they respond!

Fraternally,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] What would you have done? An odd access issue


> Good for you, Marion.
> Also, good for the officer who in my opinion is a credit to whatever 
> police
> force she was working for!
>
>
> Dan W. and the happy hounds
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:59 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] What would you have done? An odd access issue
>
> Ron,
>   I always strive to be courteous. however, I will not compromise my civil
> rights over the interest of courtesy. Mind you, I will never be 
> discourteous
> when I am denied access, even though the discriminator may think that i 
> am.
>    I was once denied access to a bar. After forty-five minutes of trying 
> to
> explain to the manager that I had the right to enter the establishment 
> with
> my dog, I invited him to contact the sherrif's office and they would 
> explain
> it to him. His reply was "I'm not going to call them. If you want to call
> them, there is a telephone outside." I advised him that, if I called them, 
> I
> would file criminal charges against him. "Have at it!" was his reply. When
> the deputy arrived - she was all of 5'3", maybe 120 lbs. - she also tried 
> to
> explain the law to him. He was adamant that I was not going to enter.
>    "Perhaps you don't understand me," she told the 6-foot tall, 250 lbs.
> man, "if you don't let him in I will arrest you!"
>    "Well, then, I take that back! But he still can't come in because he 
> has
> a bad attitude!"
>    "He probably didn't have a bad attitude until you told him he couldn't
> go in!" Then she turned to me and asked me to follow her.
>    "Where are you going?" asked the manager.
>    "To write up your order to appear in court on criminal misdemeanor
> charges!"
>    The manager followed us out the door, pleading with her not to do so.
> She told him it was too late. Would you like to know what he said to me?
> "Whatever happened to compassion in this world?" I replied, "That's a good
> question. Would you like to answer it for me?"
>    Three months later the headlines read, "blind Beer Drinker Wins a Round
> in Court". He was ordered to pay court costs and serve me the beer I was
> going in to get.
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Davidson" <fuzzy_1 at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] What would you have done? An odd access issue
>
>
>>I never thought about it that way Marion but you are right. But I still 
>>try
>
>>and consider the wet dog and hair issue as a courtesy
>>
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